Re: [OSM-talk] Contacting new users

2008-03-14 Thread Jo
mariner wrote: hy guys, I signed up yesterday and I haven't got any mail. At the moment I understand the basics of the system. But not more. It's hard I think to learn it in a efficent way. I think the wiki is to messy. A clear structure in there would help while doing the first steps..

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-14 Thread Robert Vollmert
On Mar 13, 2008, at 23:27, Frederik Ramm wrote: True, but since there can only be one circumference of a polygon, could we not specify that if more than one outer ways exist in a multipoly relation, these will be merged to make the circumference? That would be very confusing. I'd expect outer

[OSM-talk] Cycle Map around Nuremberg

2008-03-14 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Around Nuremberg (Nürnberg) the Cycle Map is now available with much better zoom levels: http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=12lat=6358702.54257lon=1238040.08506layers=B00 Thanks a million! The cycle routes are often still fragmented and many of them are still missing completely, but the

Re: [OSM-talk] Cannot correct ring self intersection -- josm enhancement needed?

2008-03-14 Thread D Tucny
On 13/03/2008, Joerg Ostertag (OSM Munich/Germany) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alternatively you could split the way into 2: select the way the node with the 4 segments, then tools-Split Way. I'm not certain whether this will end up with 2 closed ways but I think it should. I have

[OSM-talk] OpenExpo, Bern and OpenStreetMap

2008-03-14 Thread Sebastian Spaeth
OpenExpo, Bern, Switzerland is over (1000 visitors) and I wrote an post on my experiences there: http://sspaeth.de/index.php?/archives/507-OpenExpo-and-OpenStreetMap-2008.html Thanks to all involved and helping, I enjoyed it a lot. Sebastian Spaeth

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle Map around Nuremberg

2008-03-14 Thread Jo
Karl Eichwalder wrote: Around Nuremberg (Nürnberg) the Cycle Map is now available with much better zoom levels: http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=12lat=6358702.54257lon=1238040.08506layers=B00 Thanks a million! The cycle routes are often still fragmented and many of them are still

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenExpo, Bern and OpenStreetMap

2008-03-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
Great post, it sounds like you had a good and very productive time @ openexpo. A big welcome to all new mailing list subscribers resulting from that :) -- martijn van exel -+- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+- http://www.schaaltreinen.nl/ Op 14 mrt 2008, om 08:56 heeft Sebastian Spaeth het volgende

[OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread maning sambale
Hi, I need help in converting a POI GML file to OSM for upload. The GML file is from a Mapinfo file of POIs. Sample is below: ogr:geometryPropertygml:Pointgml:coordinates121.1017599,14.6289909/gml:coordinates/gml:Point/ogr:geometryProperty ogr:LabelMARIKINA/ogr:Label

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-talk-nl] potlatch satellietfoto's

2008-03-14 Thread Martijn van Exel
Floris, hoe heb je die gebouwen getagd dat ze zo gerenderd worden, en verschijnen ze straks ook zo in mapnik? -- martijn van exel -+- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+- http://www.schaaltreinen.nl/ Op 14 mrt 2008, om 07:44 heeft Floris Looijesteijn het volgende geschreven: kijk nou wat een mooie dingen

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Lambertus
Well in every programming language you would be able to do such a thing. But maybe you'd be fine by using Gpsbabel [1] which is a free tool to convert between different gis/gps formats. [1] www.gpsbabel.org maning sambale wrote: Hi, I need help in converting a POI GML file to OSM for

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenExpo, Bern and OpenStreetMap

2008-03-14 Thread Andy Allan
Brilliant work Sebastian, that looks really excellent. Cheers, Andy On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Sebastian Spaeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OpenExpo, Bern, Switzerland is over (1000 visitors) and I wrote an post on my experiences there:

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Lambertus
maning sambale wrote: Thanks for pointing this one out. Can gpsbabel convert GML to OSM? Last time I checked. it can't: http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.5/The_Formats.html I may have to dig dipper. Any other way? POIs are around 7,000 points. No, it can't convert to OSM but e.g. GPX

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Alex S.
maning sambale wrote: Thanks for pointing this one out. Can gpsbabel convert GML to OSM? Last time I checked. it can't: http://www.gpsbabel.org/htmldoc-1.3.5/The_Formats.html I may have to dig dipper. Any other way? POIs are around 7,000 points. Sure. Write some XSL transforms... They

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle Map around Nuremberg

2008-03-14 Thread Andy Allan
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 8:05 AM, Jo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Karl Eichwalder wrote: Around Nuremberg (Nürnberg) the Cycle Map is now available with much better zoom levels: http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/osm/?zoom=12lat=6358702.54257lon=1238040.08506layers=B00 Thanks a million!

Re: [OSM-talk] area_with_holes as alternative to multipolygon relation

2008-03-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, True, but since there can only be one circumference of a polygon, could we not specify that if more than one outer ways exist in a multipoly relation, these will be merged to make the circumference? That would be very confusing. I'd expect outer and inner ways to be the same kind of

[OSM-talk] London Emissions Zone

2008-03-14 Thread Ray Booysen
Has anyone started this zone? Or have the information around it? Cheers Ray ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle Map around Nuremberg

2008-03-14 Thread Lambertus
Just a question about the update times: I've made a start in mapping the cycle node routes in the NL.Apeldoorn area [1] last week but I don't see them on the map now. Is that probably a tagging error on my part or is the map not updated this week for that area? [1]

Re: [OSM-talk] Cycle Map around Nuremberg

2008-03-14 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Lambertus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a question about the update times: I've made a start in mapping the cycle node routes in the NL.Apeldoorn area [1] last week but I don't see them on the map now. Is that probably a tagging error on my part or is the

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Rob
if you don't find anything else, i can help you i can modify my dutch cycle node converter (gpx waypoints - osm) to process your file just send me the files and i'll have a look at it. 2008/3/14, Lambertus [EMAIL PROTECTED]: maning sambale wrote: Thanks for pointing this one out. Can

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Ludwig
There is a converter in the OSM SVN system called osmtrackfilter somewhere, which converts GPX into OSM, which can then be loaded into JOSM, where you can edit the tracks and then upload them. The location in the OSM SVN tree is applications/utils/import/osmtrackfilter. It is written in Perl.

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Data donations by municipalities?

2008-03-14 Thread Edoardo Marascalchi
Sebastian Spaeth ha scritto: Hi all, Freiburg in Germany is sympathetic to releasing local geoinformation, but a precendent case might help to convince officials (told me another official). So, are there any cases where towns or municipalities have been releasing information (especially in

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Lambertus
Rob wrote: if you don't find anything else, i can help you i can modify my dutch cycle node converter (gpx waypoints - osm) to process your file just send me the files and i'll have a look at it. Interesting, can I somewhere have a look at your converter? I also have a pile of gpx waypoints

Re: [OSM-talk] GML to OSM (Re: convert mapinfo POI to osm for uploading)

2008-03-14 Thread Maning Sambale
Any other way? POIs are around 7,000 points. Sure. Write some XSL transforms... They are both XML formats, after all. Ok. Will try this one. sidenote: perhaps Excel can be used to convert the data... I might try this one. If I ran out of patience to study xsl :) cheers, maning

Re: [OSM-talk] Contacting new users

2008-03-14 Thread simon
Hi all, I've been working on getting the base map in place in my rural community, now I'd like to get new contributors filling in the details with tag amenities etc. I started working on a 'Put your community on The Map' poster, but my artistic skill are that artistic, which I think would be an

Re: [OSM-talk] London Emissions Zone

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas Wood
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Ray Booysen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone started this zone? Or have the information around it? Cheers Ray No, and to my knowledge, the Congestion Charging Zone is also unmapped. I was pondering a tagging method a couple of months ago, but came to

Re: [OSM-talk] How do we tag passing/slow lanes?

2008-03-14 Thread Pieren Pieren
Break the way at the start and end of each passing section and tag with lanes=2 for the normal sections (assuming its normally a two lane undivided highway) and... lanes=2 is not supposed to be the default value ? I mean, it's obvious for me that lanes=2 is the default for highway=motorway,

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-14 Thread Lars Aronsson
Karl Newman wrote: This is probably due to the recently broken (and now fixed) daily/hourly diffs. After this week's planet dump is imported (probably today), the hourly diffs should be able to properly keep it up to date as the wiki page states. Yes, it's much better now. But it's not

Re: [OSM-talk] How do we tag passing/slow lanes?

2008-03-14 Thread Lars Aronsson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only suggestion I had was to set lanes to '1+2', which would mean 1 lane in the forward direction (of the way) and 2 in the reverse direction. In Sweden, those are known as 2+1 roads. They are becoming increasingly popular especially when combined with a cable

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-14 Thread 80n
Lars Can you point to a couple of specific instances please so that I can investigate further? Osmxapi was resynchronized against this week's planet file ( planet-080312.osm) plus the diff files from then onwards. So if there are still discrepancies all the evidence is still be available at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Contacting new users

2008-03-14 Thread Jo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef: Hi all, I've been working on getting the base map in place in my rural community, now I'd like to get new contributors filling in the details with tag amenities etc. I started working on a 'Put your community on The Map' poster, but my artistic skill are that

Re: [OSM-talk] London Emissions Zone

2008-03-14 Thread graham
Thomas Wood wrote: On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Ray Booysen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone started this zone? Or have the information around it? Cheers Ray No, and to my knowledge, the Congestion Charging Zone is also unmapped. I was pondering a tagging method a couple of

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-14 Thread Lars Aronsson
80n wrote: Lars Can you point to a couple of specific instances please so that I can investigate further? If you try this very narrow region, wget 'http://www.informationfreeway.org/api/0.5/way[bbox=14.4,58.05,14.6,58.1][note=FIXME previously unwayed segment]' -O mymap.osm You will get a

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-14 Thread 80n
Lars Thanks for this info, its been very useful. Some edits, that were made during the period when the incremental feeds were down, have not been resynchronized correctly. The problem is due to a difference in the timestamp format between the planet dump and the incremental feeds. I'll fix the

Re: [OSM-talk] Osmxapi returns old data

2008-03-14 Thread Jon Burgess
On Sat, 2008-03-15 at 00:30 +, 80n wrote: Lars Thanks for this info, its been very useful. Some edits, that were made during the period when the incremental feeds were down, have not been resynchronized correctly. The problem is due to a difference in the timestamp format between the

[OSM-talk] User stats desperately wanted

2008-03-14 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, whenever I make a presentation about OSM, I tell them about our exponential growth. I used to show them this http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/images/c/c7/Osmdbstats4A.png but that's stopped in July last year, so I have no current picture about the growth of our user base. The page

[OSM-talk] highway=living_street not rendered?

2008-03-14 Thread Inge Wallin
Hi people, I am a very new user that has started to map up the village in Sweden where I live. However, I have found something strange. Look at the slippy map, and search for Ljungsbro. Notice the to streets Kohagsvägen and Ugglebovägen southeast of the center. Then press the 'edit'. What

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-14 Thread Gernot Hillier
Hi! Karl Eichwalder schrieb: oder eben z240 bzw. z241. Alle anderen zeichen können natürlich auch verbucht werden. Und was machste, wenn da mehr als ein Zeichen stehen? Einfach alle reinpacken; eine white-space separated list sollte passen: traffic_sign = z237 z136 Bitte nichts

Re: [Talk-de] Osmarender und tracks/service

2008-03-14 Thread Gernot Hillier
Hi! Christoph Eckert schrieb: Moin, habe ich bei meinen Wegn was falsch getaggt, oder rendert der Osmarender tracks vom Typ grade1 tatsächlich breiter als Servicewege? Das halte ich nämlich ehrlich gesagt nicht für sinnvoll. Überhaupt erscheinen mir Tracks im Vergleich zu breit zu sein.

[Talk-de] Feldtrenner in Tags (war: Re: Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen)

2008-03-14 Thread Gernot Hillier
Hi! Gernot Hillier schrieb: Und was machste, wenn da mehr als ein Zeichen stehen? Einfach alle reinpacken; eine white-space separated list sollte passen: traffic_sign = z237 z136 Bitte nichts neues erfinden! An anderen Stellen werden als Trenner bei OSM Semikolons verwendet:

Re: [Talk-de] (benutzungspflichtige) Radwege

2008-03-14 Thread Joerg Fischer
Heiko Jacobs wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.85941lon=12.98348zoom=16layers=B0FT doch sehr eindeutig. Der Radweg ist eigentlich nur ein Feld-/Waldweg, der die Erreichbarkeit der straßennahen Grundstücke für deren Land- Nö. Vielleicht geht die Oberflächenbeschaffenheit aus dem

AW: OSM-Treff in M�nchen am 18. M�rz

2008-03-14 Thread Ralf Zimmermann
Hallo, Unser nächstes Treffen in München rückt näher und es gibt noch etwas Verwirrung um den Ort. Es wäre toll, wenn ein paar Teilnehmer hier ihre Vorliebe für den einen oder anderen Ort äussern könnten. Dann hätten wir eine Grundlage für eine Entscheidung. Grüsse, Ralf

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Buch: Amazon spinnt ;-(

2008-03-14 Thread Thomas Szukala
Also bei mir ging das ganz fix mit Amazon. Hab es am 10.03 bestellt und gestern am 13.03. kam es an. War selbst recht erstaunt, dass es schon da war, wollte erst den Postboten zu meinen Nachbarn schicken Allerdings konnte ich bis jetzt noch nicht reinschaun, habe nur das Vorwort gelesen :(

Re: [Talk-de] (benutzungspflichtige) Radwege

2008-03-14 Thread Heiko Jacobs
Zitat von Joerg Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=50.85941lon=12.98348zoom=16layers=B0FT doch sehr eindeutig. Der Radweg ist eigentlich nur ein Feld-/Waldweg, der die Erreichbarkeit der straßennahen Grundstücke für deren Land- Nö. Vielleicht geht die

Re: [Talk-de] Innerstädtische Kategorisierung

2008-03-14 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Freitag 14 März 2008 schrieb Gernot Hillier: Hi! Guenther Meyer schrieb: Aber gerade in diesem Beispiel gilt doch genau das, was ich als Funktionalität bezeichne. Wenn man die Straße Tatsächlich als Durchgangsstraße benutzt - und sie sogar so ausgezeichnet ist - dann sollte sie auf

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Treff in München am 18. März

2008-03-14 Thread Guenther Meyer
Am Freitag 14 März 2008 schrieb Ralf Zimmermann: Hallo, Unser nächstes Treffen in München rückt näher und es gibt noch etwas Verwirrung um den Ort. Es wäre toll, wenn ein paar Teilnehmer hier ihre Vorliebe für den einen oder anderen Ort äussern könnten. Dann hätten wir eine Grundlage für

Re: [Talk-de] Innerstädtische Kategorisierung

2008-03-14 Thread Mario Salvini
ich finde die momentane Einstufung eigentlich (wenn man ihre einfachheit bedenkt) sehr brauchbar. Über, zwischen und Innerregionaler Verkehr auf geteilt in Pri, SEC und TER-Straßen. STraßen ohne verbindenen Charakter dann unclassified oder je nach Situation angepasst residential,

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-14 Thread Andreas Stenglein
Am 27.02.2008 06:22:01 schrieb(en) Karl Eichwalder: Ich habe nun deinem Frankenweg ein paar Kilometer nordwestlich von Kulmbach zugefügt. Ist das ok? Klar, so war das gedacht :) Ich wollte neulich noch ein paar Kilometer ranhängen, leider geht das mit JOSM nicht so einfach: Es sieht so

Re: [Talk-de] (benutzungspflichtige) Radwege

2008-03-14 Thread Joerg Fischer
Heiko Jacobs wrote: Zitat von Joerg Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Nö. Vielleicht geht die Oberflächenbeschaffenheit aus dem Satbild schlecht hervor. Das ist außerhalb des kleinen Wäldchens ein perfekt asphaltierter Weg. Nö, es stammt bloß Deine Vorstellung von Feldweg aus der Mitte des

Re: [Talk-de] OSM-Buch: Amazon spinnt ;-(

2008-03-14 Thread Florian Schmitt
Thomas Szukala schrieb: Also bei mir ging das ganz fix mit Amazon. Hab es am 10.03 bestellt und gestern am 13.03. kam es an. hatte leider nicht so viel Glück - im Februar bestellt, letzter Stand Ende April, gestern abend bei Amazon storniert und bei LOB bestellt. Gruss florian

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-14 Thread Karl Eichwalder
Wie kann man JOSM beibringen, daß er alle ways die zu einer Relation gehören herunterladen soll? Ich glaube, das geht nicht. Ich lade auch immer die daten des bereiches, von dem ich annehme, dass es dort wege der route gibt. Umständlich, aber funktioniert. Aber die API kann man, denke ich,

Re: [Talk-de] Wanderwege, Klettersteige, Kletterfelsen

2008-03-14 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi, Bitte nichts neues erfinden! An anderen Stellen werden als Trenner bei OSM Semikolons verwendet: Strichpunkte würde ich meiden. Die machen nämlich, zumindest auf Nodes angewendet, potentiell Probleme in der Datenbank. Beste Grüße, ce ___

Re: [Talk-de] (benutzungspflichtige) Radwege

2008-03-14 Thread Karl Eichwalder
In beide Richtungen benutzungspflichtig, ja. Um das Topic mal wieder zu treffen: ich habe den RW trotz Straßennähe getrennt erfasst, damit ein späterer (Rad)routenplaner ansagen kann, das dort abzubiegen ist. Wir werden sehen ob sich das bewährt. Ich erfasse in der regel auch separat. Das

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Michal Grézl
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Pavel Machek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu 2008-03-13 23:34:43, Kubajz wrote: Na to se moc spolehat neda. Udelal bych nejaky hromadny sos dlazdic v nejvetsim pouzitelnem priblizeni. S tim se pak celkem snad da i pracovat. Hmm... tak melo by stacit

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Michal Grézl
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Jachym Cepicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dvě otázky: 1) Má to cenu? Měl jsem pocit, že z UHULu přišla odezva v tom smyslu, že orthofota budou tak jako tak 2) Je to legální? Povolení k používání dat ještě neznamená povolení k pořízení jejich kopie a

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Kubajz
Michal Grézl napsal(a): On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Jachym Cepicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dvě otázky: 1) Má to cenu? Měl jsem pocit, že z UHULu přišla odezva v tom smyslu, že orthofota budou tak jako tak 2) Je to legální? Povolení k používání dat ještě neznamená povolení k

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Kubajz píše v Pá 14. 03. 2008 v 12:07 +0100: S tim sdilenim, kdyz zdroj data poskytuje bez omezeni, tak je prece jedno jak se k tobe dostanou (nikdo je neprodava, zadna skoda nevznika, vsude jsou uvedeny reference). Jediny legalni problem s UHUL daty je prave to odvozovani. A to mam za

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Tomáš Tichý
Pokud se někomu podaří nakonfigurovat tilecache jako WMS server, pošlete prosím návod. Už před časem jsem si s tím hrál a skončil jsem právě na té hlášce: An error occurred: can't find resolution index for 0.52. Available resolutions are: =TT= 2008/3/14 Jachym Cepicky [EMAIL

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Michal Grézl
2008/3/14 Jachym Cepicky [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kubajz píše v Pá 14. 03. 2008 v 12:07 +0100: S tim sdilenim, kdyz zdroj data poskytuje bez omezeni, tak je prece jedno jak se k tobe dostanou (nikdo je neprodava, zadna skoda nevznika, vsude jsou uvedeny reference). Jediny legalni

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Jachym Cepicky
ok doporucoval bych se podivat na kod openlayers [1] v podsatate jsou dva dulezite parametry: velikost dlazdice a hranicni souradnice (extent), od kterych se to odpocitava, stejne jako pole meritek, ve kterych mate nacechovano rozumna meritka pro epsg:102067 vypadaji nasledovne:

Re: [Talk-cz] uhul je opet online

2008-03-14 Thread Pavel Machek
On Fri 2008-03-14 11:42:22, Jachym Cepicky wrote: Dvě otázky: 1) Má to cenu? Měl jsem pocit, že z UHULu přišla odezva v tom smyslu, že orthofota budou tak jako tak 2) Je to legální? Povolení k používání dat ještě neznamená povolení k pořízení jejich kopie a dalšího sdílení... (?) Dostali