[OSM-talk-be] Vogelzangpad Nijlen

2011-05-03 Thread Marc Gemis
Hello, I did the Vogelzangpad in Nijlen today. How do I update the wiki page with all the correct links ? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Walking_Routes#Antwerpen_2 regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk-be] Workshop met Trage Wegen VZW

2011-05-03 Thread Kenny Knecht
Hoi Allen, Ik heb een telefoontje gehad van een medewerkster van Trage Wegen om samen te werken met ons voor een workshop. Die zou door gaan op 18 juni. Ik kan er helaas niet bij zijn, maar hopelijk kunnen een paar anderen wel present zijn om mensen een beetje wegwijs te maken in openstreetmap?

Re: [OSM-talk-be] Workshop met Trage Wegen VZW

2011-05-03 Thread Wouter Hamelinck
Mij zou het in elk geval erg interesseren en ik heb die dag nog niets gepland (ben zelf lid van Trage Wegen). Je mag gerust mijn mail-adres doorgeven aan hun. wouter 2011/5/3 Kenny Knecht kenny.kne...@gmail.com: Hoi Allen, Ik heb een telefoontje gehad van een medewerkster van Trage Wegen om

[OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Jaak Laineste
Hello, It looks like trivial suggestion, but could not find any past discussions with quick search. Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the address tags, if OSM database already has administrative regions for given area? These admin

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Thomas Davie
On 3 May 2011, at 08:57, Jaak Laineste wrote: Hello, It looks like trivial suggestion, but could not find any past discussions with quick search. Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the address tags, if OSM database already

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/03/11 07:07, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: Would it be possible to add New Caledonia in .pbf to http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/australia-oceania/ I'd love to but before I start making smaller files for Australia I think I'll do something in the US. I suggest that for the time being

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread David Murn
New Caledonia is not part of Australia. It is approx 2000km east of the closest point in Australia, about the same distance as New Zealand is. Does the Australia file (which doesnt seem to be on that linked page at the moment) cover the entire oceania region? Maybe its worth looking at putting

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread NopMap
Thank you for improving the IMHO most important additional service in OSM! bye Nop -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Geofabrik-Download-Server-Update-tp6264407p6326736.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I suggest that for the time being you download the 160 MB full Australia file and cut out New Caledonia yourself with Osmosis. Is there a guide somewhere to using osmosis on Windows. Maybe just a simple bounding-box

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Ed Avis
Jaak Laineste jaak.laineste at gmail.com writes: Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the address tags, if OSM database already has administrative regions for given area? I don't think so, except in cases where the postal regions are

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Nathan Edgars II
Jaak Laineste wrote: Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the address tags, if OSM database already has administrative regions for given area? I can't speak for the other tags, but addr:city is not the same as is_in:city. I have an

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 9:11 AM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I suggest that for the time being you download the 160 MB full Australia file and cut out New Caledonia yourself with Osmosis.

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/03/11 10:48, David Murn wrote: New Caledonia is not part of Australia. Bummer. I must have mixed it up with New South Wales or whatever the place is called. I'll check but I think that the NC area should be in the australia+oceania extract. Bye Frederik

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Maarten Deen
Jaak Laineste jaak.laineste at gmail.com writes: Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the address tags, if OSM database already has administrative regions for given area? I think addr:country can be identified by existing borders, but

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Richard Mann
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Richard: You can consider using osmembrane[1] which is a GUI on top of osmosis. I haven't tested it on Windows but I guess there's no reason it shouldn't work. It makes working with osmosis a much gentler experience ;).

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Richard Weait
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Richard: You can consider using osmembrane[1] which is a GUI on top of osmosis. I haven't tested it on Windows but I guess there's no

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Martijn van Exel
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Richard: You can consider using osmembrane[1] which is a GUI on top of osmosis. I haven't tested it on Windows but I guess

Re: [OSM-talk] talk Digest, Vol 81, Issue 10

2011-05-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 5/3/11 7:00 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Jaak Laineste jaak.laineste at gmail.com writes: Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the address tags, if OSM database already has administrative regions for given area? I don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/3 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: What I do to avoid most redundancy, is to create an associatedStreet relation. ... I add more than one street to them though, even if JOSM complains about that. it is not just JOSM complaining about this, it is against the spec: Members Way/nodeRole

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 03.05.2011 10:09, Thomas Davie wrote: On 3 May 2011, at 08:57, Jaak Laineste wrote: Hello, It looks like trivial suggestion, but could not find any past discussions with quick search. Is there good reason to add addr:country, addr:county, addr:city and other regional tags to all the

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Jo
The very first I did, I did it according to 'spec': http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7595148 The result is a ridiculous amount of 4 relations for a street of less than 1,5 km in length. Some of which only contain one house. And each of them containing redundant name, addr:city,

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/3 Jo winfi...@gmail.com: The very first I did, I did it according to 'spec': http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/7595148 The result is a ridiculous amount of 4 relations for a street of less than 1,5 km in length. Some of which only contain one house. And each of them

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Pieren
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Felix Hartmann extremecar...@gmail.comwrote: +1 boundaries are too often wrong or incomplete or if someone deletes them accidentally (or renames them slightly) again the is_in discussion All these arguments above are also valid when you put the full

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Jo
Hmm, I'm convinced the associatedStreet relation is the most elegant way to solve the redundancy problem. The biggest issue with it is the one street per relation limitation, which I don't understand where it comes from. So, as far as I'm concerned, it'd be better to redefine it. Polyglot

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/03/2011 03:12 PM, Jo wrote: Hmm, I'm convinced the associatedStreet relation is the most elegant way to solve the redundancy problem. The biggest issue with it is the one street per relation limitation, which I don't understand where it comes from. So, as far as I'm concerned, it'd be

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
Jo wrote: Hmm, I'm convinced the associatedStreet relation is the most elegant way to solve the redundancy problem. There is no redundancy problem. No, really. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with redundancy. Redundancy per se doesn't cause any harm to our database. Looking at taginfo and

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Richard Welty
On 3 May 2011 15:03:07 +0200, M?rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I know. In your case (just one house) the relation indeed seems to be far less adequate in respect to simple tags. Relations add a complexity that is mostly not desirable IMHO for cases like housenumbers. The

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Ed Avis
Felix Hartmann extremecarver at gmail.com writes: Cause boundaries really are not ment for deducting information onto what's inside. This really slows down any kind of processing (much much more than having data duplicated which only takes up a bit more disk space). It's one thing to say that to

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/3 Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com: It's one thing to say that to speed up and simplify processing, there should be duplicated data.  Quite another to say that every contributor, on every object that has an address, should manually add several redundant tags. Let's tag the information that

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Pieren
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Felix Hartmann extremecar...@gmail.comwrote: Cause boundaries really are not ment for deducting information onto what's inside. I don't know what to say against that Pieren ___ talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Kevin Peat
On 3 May 2011 15:53, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: You seem to imply that relations are faster / less manual work requiring when entering addresses manually with one of the OSM editors, but from my own experience they require at least the same (manual) work, if not more.

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Kai Krueger
Frederik Ramm wrote: I'd love to but before I start making smaller files for Australia I think I'll do something in the US. That would be great! Currently, I think only Cloudmade are offering state level extracts (much more managable than the larger extracts) for the US and unfortunately

[OSM-talk] [RFC] Draft Requirements and Agreement for OSMF Local Chapters

2011-05-03 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
Hello all, The OSMF Local Chapters Working Group is moving towards building a framework for the recognition and collaboration with future OSMF Local Chapters all over the world. Having Local Chapters that involves local OSM contributors makes sense because OSMF cannot function everywhere and it

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Matthias Julius
Kai Krueger kakrue...@gmail.com schrieb: Altogether, I think those daily country extracts are one of the most useful tools for working with OSM data, so I'd like to send a great thanks to Geofabrik for providing the resource to offer this valuable service. I agree. But, I need to point out

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Jo
Select some street parts, building outlines and nodes. Press the button to create a new relation and add them. Then add the properties to the relation. That really doesn't take longer than adding those properties directly to the elements themselves. Of course, I always have the relation overview

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Jaak Laineste
2011/5/3 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: You seem to imply that relations are faster / less manual work requiring when entering addresses manually with one of the OSM editors, but from my own experience they require at least the same (manual) work, if not more. Creating relation

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2011/5/3 Jaak Laineste jaak.laine...@gmail.com: 2011/5/3 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Creating relation could be same, or even more extra work, this is correct (but fixable in editor level). actually it will (with explicit numbers without interpolation) not be possible at the

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Ed Avis
M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdreist at gmail.com writes: Let's tag the information that is needed, but not restate the same thing in several different ways.  Then if some different presentation of that info is needed, this can be done in a separate post-processing step by a computer, not by people.

Re: [OSM-talk] Skip geographical (redundant) address tags

2011-05-03 Thread Vincent Pottier
Le 03/05/2011 16:54, Pieren a écrit : On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Felix Hartmann extremecar...@gmail.com mailto:extremecar...@gmail.com wrote: Cause boundaries really are not ment for deducting information onto what's inside. I don't know what to say against that Pieren

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Matthias, Matthias Julius wrote: But, I need to point out again that theese extracts are not quite as useful as they could be, IMHO. Unless something has been changed, ways that cross the bounding polygon are trunkated at the last node inside the polygon. I have started to slowly introduce

[OSM-talk] When advertising is good

2011-05-03 Thread Nic Roets
One or two people on the list said that they avoid advertising where ever they can. I know advertising can be annoying when the same add appears 10 times in a row, but I just want to explain a few things. Let's look at the example of a restaurant that is working below capacity. It can be because

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Matthias Julius
Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org writes: Matthias, Matthias Julius wrote: But, I need to point out again that theese extracts are not quite as useful as they could be, IMHO. Unless something has been changed, ways that cross the bounding polygon are trunkated at the last node inside the

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Matthias Julius wrote: One option would be to run osmosis with clipIncompleteEntities=false (the default). That would not increase the burden on your box and still allow the extracts to be merged. Of course, this would leave it up to the data consumer to deal with the incomplete ways and

Re: [OSM-talk] When advertising is good

2011-05-03 Thread Felix Hartmann
The biggest problem we have is that were not important enough and too cluttered to attract in map adverts yet. I think in the long run, it's not about adverts around the map, but ads in the map (of course the database should be advert free). Als our maps are still mainly for looking at,

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Hendrik Oesterlin
Frederik Ramm wrote on 03/05/2011 at 21:59:45 +1100 subject [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update : I'll check but I think that the NC area should be in the australia+oceania extract. It is included, but ADSL in New Caledonia is expensive and therefor quite slow (256kb downstream). I

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Phil Endecott
Hi Frederik, Excuse me for jumping in here without knowing much of the background, but: Frederik Ramm wrote: I need to use simplified polygons; cutting out a country with a 15k node polygon would take forever. Is your point-in-polygon test O(N) in the size of the polygon? You can do much

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-03 Thread Dave F.
On 02/05/2011 13:36, Grant Slater wrote: OK, lets find a time that works better. World Time Server Meeting planner: http://bit.ly/kBuc2L 1pm UTC seems like the best option to me or what do you think? Or maybe we should alternate? What part of Don't use IRC did you not comprehend? Just because

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-03 Thread Steve Coast
Everything would be better if Dave F. was in charge. The trains would run on time, logos would go through his personal approval process and unicorns would frolic near a turquoise lake in the sun. So, anyway, Grant was trying to be nice to you and offering to bring you in to the process that

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-03 Thread Mikel Maron
We also discuss frequently on the strategic mailing list, so there's asynchronous options as well to participate. For people who want to discuss things reasonably, that is. == Mikel Maron == +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Dave F.

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-03 Thread Serge Wroclawski
Dave, This issue comes up constantly and no group has found any solutions which are ideal. Some folks suggest meetings using, say Gnome meeting, and then they're doled it's hard to set up, so Skype is suggested. Then some say Skype is proprietary, so we should switch to a phone conference

Re: [OSM-talk] New Logo in the Wiki

2011-05-03 Thread Anders Arnholm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 2011-05-04 03:23, Serge Wroclawski skrev: Dave, if you have a suggestion that would let us communicate in real time (not over weeks via email) then please share this with the group. The problem is that with the need for real time, at best 1/3 of

Re: [OSM-talk] Geofabrik Download Server Update

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Phil, On 05/04/11 01:48, Phil Endecott wrote: I need to use simplified polygons; cutting out a country with a 15k node polygon would take forever. Is your point-in-polygon test O(N) in the size of the polygon? You can do much better than that. I use Osmosis, which in turn uses whatever Java

Re: [talk-au] Australian Disaster 2.0 (Un)Conference

2011-05-03 Thread Shoaib Burq
Hi all Just an update, the registrations for Bridging the Gap - think tank event are now open http://bridgingthegapthinktank.eventbrite.com/ If you know anyone interested in speaking about openstreetmap please let Tolmie or myself know. I would do it myself but I am in Berlin mapping the Zoo!

Re: [talk-au] Australian Disaster 2.0 (Un)Conference

2011-05-03 Thread Andrew Harvey
Hi Shoaib, I'm available and happy to speak about OSM at this event if you like. That said if you find someone more experienced to speak, I'll probably still go as a participant anyway. I've also CC'ed Maurits, whom I've just replied to separately as well. Andrew On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 7:34 PM,

[talk-au] Barrier Reef Island Geographic Offset

2011-05-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
Brampton Island http://osm.org/go/vIwcP8wt- Also saw the same for Lady Musgrave Island. I've not made any alterations, because I do not have any idea whether the possibly traced outline or the ABS boundaries are correct. Liz ___ Talk-au mailing list

Re: [talk-au] Barrier Reef Island Geographic Offset

2011-05-03 Thread Chris Barham
Hi, On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 20:16, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Brampton Island http://osm.org/go/vIwcP8wt- I saw these several hundred metre offsets on some Qld islands, when adding the National Parks, they gave me pause because I thought I may have made an error in projection or

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-03 Thread Grant Slater
On 27 April 2011 05:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Wait, why did the Australian government stop using CC-by-SA and move to CC-by? I actually wasn't aware of this, maybe because CC-by-SA adds

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-03 Thread Elizabeth Dodd
On Tue, 3 May 2011 18:28:09 +0100 Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: On 27 April 2011 05:42, Alex (Maxious) Sadleir maxi...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: Wait, why did the Australian government stop using

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-03 Thread edodd
On 4 May 2011 06:49, Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for our government, they are good enough for us... Who is us, in this case? This is the Australian list, in case you didn't realise

Re: [talk-au] Reassurance and Licensing

2011-05-03 Thread Ian Sergeant
Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: Just remind yourselves that if CC-by and CC-by-SA are good enough for our government, they are good enough for us... I wrote: Who is us, in this case? Elizabeth Dodd ed...@billiau.net wrote: This is the Australian list, in case you didn't realise

[Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Leandro Motta Barros
Olás, Temos regiões com muitos problemas de mapeamento, alguns dos quais considero particularmente graves: - Vias que no mundo real são fisicamente conectadas (cruzamentos ou não), mas que não possuem um nodo em comum, que faça a conexão lógica entre elas. - Vias totalmente sem tags. Sem essas

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Guilherme Dagostin Donadel
Olá, Se voce chegou ate Criciúma deve ter encontrado as vias que eu mapiei mas nao coloquei as tag por faz de tempo, aos poucos eu estou organizando essa regiao sul de SC. mas bom saber quer existe esse plugin keepright, nao conhecia. obrigado Guilherme D'Agostin Donadel gdonadel Em 3 de maio

[Talk-br] FISL 2011?

2011-05-03 Thread Leandro Motta Barros
Olás de novo, Aproveitando o embalo: acho até que a programação ainda não está fechada, mas vocês sabem me dizer se tem alguma coisa relativa ao OSM prevista ou pretendida para o FISL (http://softwarelivre.org/fisl12) esse ano? Alguém pretende ir? (Eu devo estar por lá, nem que seja só no

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Arlindo Pereira
Boa chamada. Aqui no Rio tem um zilhão de erros no keep right! também, acho que isso é normal. Também concordo com a ideia de que novos mapeadores tendem a repetir os antigos. Só falta tempo para fazer tudo praticamente sozinho :/ []s 2011/5/3 Guilherme Dagostin Donadel gdona...@gmail.com: Olá,

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread vitor
Acho que vocês mesmos estão dando a solução para o problema. O que falta são mapeadores! Não adianta nada a gente fazer um monte de importações e não ter gente pra arrumar. A lista é um bom meio de comunicação para os usuários mais ativos, mas a gente tem que divulgar bastante fora daqui. Este

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Leandro Motta Barros
Olá, 2011/5/3 vitor vitor.geo...@gmail.com: Acho que vocês mesmos estão dando a solução para o problema. O que falta são mapeadores! Não adianta nada a gente fazer um monte de importações e não ter gente pra arrumar. OK, mas eu acho que estamos falando de problemas diferentes. Pelo menos, eu

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Guilherme Dagostin Donadel
Pessoal duvida rapida, me deparo com o erro Este highway intersecciona o waterway eu criei uma ponte ali mas o erro continua aparecendo. Oq mais devo fazer? link do erro: http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?schema=47error=2021271 Guilherme D'Agostin Donadel Em 3 de maio de 2011 21:24,

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Rodrigo de Avila
Marque a opção ignorar temporariamente (erro corrigido) e clique em Salvar. Na próxima vez que a base de dados for gerada (a última vez foi em 30/04/2011) este erro será conferido. Se a correção for satisfatória, ela sumirá definitivamente. Caso contrário, ela aparecerá novamente, com um

Re: [Talk-br] Incitação ao bugcídio

2011-05-03 Thread Guilherme Dagostin Donadel
Entendido! Obrigado Guilherme D'Agostin Donadel Em 3 de maio de 2011 23:01, Rodrigo de Avila rodr...@avila.net.br escreveu: Marque a opção ignorar temporariamente (erro corrigido) e clique em Salvar. Na próxima vez que a base de dados for gerada (a última vez foi em 30/04/2011) este erro

Re: [Talk-de] Cycleways - oftmals falsch getaggt

2011-05-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 29.04.2011 15:28, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: [...] Am 28. April 2011 22:52 schrieb Peter Wendorffwendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Mein Vorschlag ist deshalb, name=Name-der-straße und sidewalk=yes zu setzen; damit lässt sich die Zuordnung hinreichend erstellen, wenn man das will. die einfachste

Re: [Talk-de] Cycleways - oftmals falsch getaggt

2011-05-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
Am 29.04.2011 16:49, schrieb fly: Ich glaube, ich würde hier teilweise falsch verstanden: Darum will ich hier nochmal kurz meine Punkte vortragen: [...] 3. Ich halte es für kritisch für Gehwege ein highway=footway zu benutzen, da durch alle Renderer betroffen sind. Auch ist highway=* entgültig

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2011 00:23 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Ich nehme Wetten an: Wie viele Logo Entwürfe in allen genannten Varianten kannst du wohl erstellen wenn du dir mal 2 Tage Urlaub von den OSM Listen nimmst??? Du hast mein Posting nicht verstanden. Man wird sich

Re: [Talk-de] Cycleways - oftmals falsch getaggt

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2011 08:33 schrieb Peter Wendorff wendo...@uni-paderborn.de: Am 29.04.2011 15:28, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer: Das Datenbank-Aufblähen ist 'n sch***-Argument, das Vorverarbeiten-müssen auch, denn dann könnten wir auch direkt für die Router mappen und fertige Routinggraphen in der

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Stefan Schwan
Am 3. Mai 2011 11:43 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 3. Mai 2011 00:23 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Ich nehme Wetten an: Wie viele Logo Entwürfe in allen genannten Varianten kannst du wohl erstellen wenn du dir mal 2 Tage Urlaub von den OSM Listen

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2011 14:07 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Ich glaube du hast mein Posting nicht verstanden - in der gleichen Zeit die du damit verbracht hast, die Welt darüber zu belehren, was man alles anders / besser hätte machen können, hättest du längst (mindestens) eine

Re: [Talk-de] Reihenfolge der Mitglieder einer route-Relation

2011-05-03 Thread Philip Gillißen
Hallo zusammen! Es gab ein Lebenszeichen von Melchior. Er arbeitet grad an einer neuen Karte, die anscheinend bald online gehen soll... Man darf also gespannt sein. Carsten Schönert wrote: Ansonsten wäre es natürlich eine feine Sache wenn die Generationssoftware und Scripte für diese doch

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Walter Nordmann
Chris66 wrote: Mist, jetzt muss ich meine OSM-Weste wegwerfen... ;-) hi Chris 1-2 mal mit 90° waschen und es ist genauso soft wie das neue Logo ;) Gruss Walter - 33,33% aller Statistiken beruhen auf kleinen Datenmengen. -- View this message in context:

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Stefan Schwan
Am 3. Mai 2011 14:19 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 3. Mai 2011 14:07 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Ich glaube du hast mein Posting nicht verstanden - in der gleichen Zeit die du damit verbracht hast, die Welt darüber zu belehren, was man alles

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Stefano Kowalke
Hey, wenn ich mir sonst so die ganzen Diskussionen hier anschaue und wieviel da teilweise geschrieben wird, frage ich mich ernsthaft ob am Ende ein neues Logo rausgekommen wäre, wenn sich mehr als 5 Personen darüber Gedanken machen, wovon - _Achtung Behauptung_ - nur ein Bruchteil Designer ist.

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2011 15:54 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Am 3. Mai 2011 14:19 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Ja, aber da ich das alte Logo besser finde, wäre das ja nicht direkt logisch, oder? klag auf talk noch anders - da war der Tenor noch neues Logo

[Talk-de] OSMF

2011-05-03 Thread Markus
In tiefer Besorgnis über die aktuellen Kollateralschäden des Lizenzwechsels habe ich Steve gebeten, die Community offen zu fragen, was sie sich wünscht: a) einen Wechsel zu PD/CC0 b) einen Wechsel zu ODbL c) die Beibehaltung von CC-by-SA Because it is destructive to our community to tell

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Stefan Schwan
Am 3. Mai 2011 16:39 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Am 3. Mai 2011 15:54 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Am 3. Mai 2011 14:19 schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com: Ja, aber da ich das alte Logo besser finde, wäre das ja nicht direkt

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Stefan Schwan wrote: Dein Einwurf I also suggest to work on a low-res version and a b/w version ist allerdings bestenfalls lachhaft - du weißt genau das es so eben _nicht_ läuft. Nun mal nicht so streng. Ich finde, M?rtin hat zwar genoergelt, aber wenigstens hat er dabei keine Leute

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread Stefan Schwan
Am 3. Mai 2011 20:51 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Hi, Stefan Schwan wrote: Dein Einwurf I also suggest to work on a low-res version and a b/w version ist allerdings bestenfalls lachhaft - du weißt genau das es so eben _nicht_ läuft. Nun mal nicht so streng. Ich finde, M?rtin

[Talk-de] Routing geht mitten durch den Fluß :-)

2011-05-03 Thread Joerg Fischer
Hallo Welt, ich helfe gerade einer Ökologin mit ihrem Garmin eTrex, aber das Problem scheint mir genereller Natur zu sein, denn es tritt auch bei http://www.openrouteservice.org auf. Der exotische Wunsch besteht darin, Punkte buchstäblich mitten in der Pampa annavigieren zu können. Also nicht

[Talk-de] Liebt OSM Denkmäler ...

2011-05-03 Thread Raimond Spekking
... in Abwandlung des Wikipedia-Projektes Wiki loves Monuments? Vielleicht hat der eine oder andere schon von dem Wikipedia-Projekt gehört, bei dem es darum geht, Denkmäler für Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons fotografisch zu erfassen [1]. Im Mai findet ein Vorbereitungstreffen auf europäischer Ebene

Re: [Talk-de] Liebt OSM Denkmäler ...

2011-05-03 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Am Dienstag, 3. Mai 2011 schrieb Raimond Spekking: ... in Abwandlung des Wikipedia-Projektes Wiki loves Monuments? Vielleicht hat der eine oder andere schon von dem Wikipedia-Projekt gehört, bei dem es darum geht, Denkmäler für Wikipedia/Wikimedia Commons fotografisch zu erfassen [1].

Re: [Talk-de] Routing geht mitten durch den Fluß :-)

2011-05-03 Thread Chris66
Am 03.05.2011 21:12, schrieb Joerg Fischer: Sowohl der Garmin als auch openrouteservice scheint das nicht die Bohne zu interessieren wenn solche Ziele nur dann erreicht werden, wenn die berechneten Routen mitten durch einen Fluß gehen. Vermutlich sind auch Klippen kein Hinderniss. Es wird

Re: [Talk-de] OSMF

2011-05-03 Thread Mike Dupont
2011/5/3 Markus liste12a4...@gmx.de: c) die Beibehaltung von CC-by-SA If it aint broke, dont fix it. If you cannot fix it, dont break it. mike ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de

Re: [Talk-de] OSMF

2011-05-03 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hallo, Markus wrote: In tiefer Besorgnis über die aktuellen Kollateralschäden des Lizenzwechsels habe ich Steve gebeten, die Community offen zu fragen, was sie sich wünscht: a) einen Wechsel zu PD/CC0 b) einen Wechsel zu ODbL c) die Beibehaltung von CC-by-SA Because it is destructive to our

Re: [Talk-de] [mkgmap-dev] continue statement and order of drawn ways?

2011-05-03 Thread Felix Hartmann
On 04.05.2011 00:05, Henning Scholland wrote: Am 03.05.2011 23:37, schrieb Felix Hartmann: On 03.05.2011 23:27, Minko wrote: Yes, that is also a good alternative, 0x01 as a transparent line and on top either 0x10f01 or 0x10f02 you cannot make a line transparent by omitting it from the

Re: [Talk-de] Das neue OSM Logo, oder wie weit ist die OSMF eigentlich noch in der Community geerdet ...

2011-05-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
Am 3. Mai 2011 21:01 schrieb Stefan Schwan stefan.sch...@googlemail.com: Am 3. Mai 2011 20:51 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org: Dein Einwurf I also suggest to work on a low-res version and a b/w version ist allerdings bestenfalls lachhaft - du weißt genau das es so eben _nicht_ läuft.

[Talk-it] Scaricare un layer in formato shp

2011-05-03 Thread Lorenzo Di Tullio
Ciao volevo sapere se è possibile scaricare un solo tematismo (ad es gli impiati di risalita) dal database di openstreetmap in formato shp in modo da poterlo utilizzare con un GIS grazie -- Lorenzo Di Tullio ___ Talk-it mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Scaricare un layer in formato shp

2011-05-03 Thread Luca Delucchi
Il 03 maggio 2011 10:42, Lorenzo Di Tullio lorenzoditul...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ciao volevo sapere se è possibile scaricare un solo tematismo (ad es gli impiati di risalita) dal database di openstreetmap in formato shp in modo da poterlo utilizzare con un GIS direttamente no, ti conviene

Re: [Talk-it] Scaricare un layer in formato shp

2011-05-03 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shp#Download_shapefiles_of_OSM_data 2011/5/3 Lorenzo Di Tullio lorenzoditul...@gmail.com: Ciao volevo sapere se è possibile scaricare un solo tematismo (ad es gli impiati di risalita) dal database di openstreetmap in formato shp in modo da poterlo utilizzare

Re: [Talk-it] Scaricare un layer in formato shp

2011-05-03 Thread Luca Delucchi
2011/5/3 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shp#Download_shapefiles_of_OSM_data ma nessun dei servizi ti permette di scaricare un solo tematismo... -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us -- ciao Luca http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/

Re: [Talk-it] Scaricare un layer in formato shp

2011-05-03 Thread Maurizio Napolitano
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 10:56, Luca Delucchi lucadel...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/5/3 Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Shp#Download_shapefiles_of_OSM_data ma nessun dei servizi ti permette di scaricare un solo tematismo... concordo Infatti subito dopo c'è

Re: [Talk-co] Monitoreo de cuerpos de agua a través del Disasters Charter

2011-05-03 Thread andress calderon
Creo que la cuenca baja del Rio Magdalena merecen especial atención. Nosotros cuantificamos mas de 4 hectareas bajo el agua en un análisis con imagenes Landsat [1]. por otro lado, podriamos tener acceso a las imagenes del Charter anterior??? Ahora ya me he vinculado a la Universidad de

Re: [Talk-co] #ayuda mejorando el mapa de #tulua

2011-05-03 Thread Andrés F Vargas
Buenas tardes, yo de nuevo 2011/4/25 Andrés F Vargas and...@gmail.com: Buenas tardes, Gracias a la colaboración de los mapaeros de OSM Colombia y algunos colaboradores internacionales de @crisismappers convocados luego de la declaración de la emergencia en el municipio de Tulua [0] se ha

Re: [Talk-co] #ayuda mejorando el mapa de #tulua

2011-05-03 Thread Fredy Rivera
Hola, Por favor envía lo que tengas y vamos avanzando. salu2 2011/5/3 Andrés F Vargas and...@gmail.com Buenas tardes, yo de nuevo 2011/4/25 Andrés F Vargas and...@gmail.com: Buenas tardes, Gracias a la colaboración de los mapaeros de OSM Colombia y algunos colaboradores

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