Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 17:58, Chris Hill wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: - Internet Explorer 8 should now work (make sure it is not in compatibility mode). It is quite slow though compared to the other browsers. I'll try this out later. - The naptan:Bearing tag

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:40, Chris Morley wrote: Christoph Böhme wrote: And another update of NOVAM: This seems to be useful tool and I like the addition of the bearing symbols. But the current ones are equilateral triangles and three-way ambiguous. The meaning can be worked out after a bit of

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-11-01 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 22:09, Christoph Böhme wrote: Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk schrieb: Same on Safari Mac 4.0.3 I tried printing with Chrome (which uses Webkit too, I think). It did print the map, but always moved it to Scotland first. Perhaps Safari is less of a scottish

Re: [OSM-talk] How do you easily add a location pointer to maps on main website?

2009-11-01 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
In addition to the rest of the answers in the thread you can double click to centre the map then copy the shortlink and add ?m to the end of the url (assuming that your using the default Mapnik layer otherwise it's m). Shaun On 1 Nov 2009, at 14:16, Jason Cunningham wrote: I asked early

Re: [OSM-talk] Illegal activity

2009-11-01 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 1 Nov 2009, at 20:17, Anthony wrote: On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Peteris Krisjanis pec...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, to resume all this discussion - PLEASE don't trace from photo without permission for OSM, whatever your temptations are. Permission from whom, and in what form?

Re: [OSM-talk] Research group asking for GPX tracks

2009-11-01 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
I doubt that we would be able to help as we don't have information like the weather, tire pressures, type of vehicle or similar. Shaun On 1 Nov 2009, at 21:12, Emilie Laffray wrote: Hello, it seems that a research group is asking for GPS data in order to improve cars. I think it would be

Re: [OSM-talk] Download Tiles

2009-10-29 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:28, bernhard wrote: Hi all Is there an easy way to download all Tiles? No, but you can generate them yourself: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapnik Laptops are capable of rendering tiles live locally. It's not just some GigaBytes, rather tens of TerraBytes. I'm

Re: [Talk-transit] NOVAM is back

2009-10-28 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 28 Oct 2009, at 22:49, Christoph Böhme wrote: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com schrieb: On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:58, Shaun McDonald wrote: Looking good, I'm thinking of adding timetable_case=yes/no/empty to the list of required fields. Good stuff - I have been through my local

Re: [OSM-talk] differences in how OpenCycleMap renders bicycle parking

2009-10-27 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 27 Oct 2009, at 22:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/10/24 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk OpenCycleMap is a project by two members of the OSM community (gravitystorm and randomjunk). It's great that people like it and find it useful, and it's a fantastic example of what

Re: [OSM-talk] Help with osm2midi

2009-10-26 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
sudo gem install geo or some other similar gem. Shaun On 26 Oct 2009, at 18:24, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: Hi, I'm trying to use osm2midi[1] on a small piece of data, but fue to my ifnorance of ruby, I stumble upon this: /usr/lib/ruby/1.8/rubygems/custom_require.rb:31:in

Re: [OSM-talk] Hi-viz vests

2009-10-25 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Andy Robinson is the person to speak to. Ideally buy a batch for your local mappers too. I have about 7 in London if anyone around London (or whereever I'm likely to be next) wants one. Shaun On 25 Oct 2009, at 19:54, Mike Ryan wrote: Hi All I remember once that someone did some

Re: [OSM-talk] differences in how OpenCycleMap renders bicycle parking

2009-10-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 24 Oct 2009, at 10:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/10/23 Jonathan Bennett openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk: Dave F. wrote: Could it be possible to change the render a the highest detail level or two, to display the C+number. In the example you give it they would certainly fit.

Re: [OSM-talk] differences in how OpenCycleMap renders bicycle parking

2009-10-23 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Hi Edward, You need a capacity of at least 20 before it is shown. The reason for needing a larger number of spaces before it was rendered with a big C was due to places like http://www.opencyclemap.org/?zoom=18lat=51.49685lon=-0.12529layers=B000 where it would show lots of blue C's beside

Re: [Talk-GB] Funny with Mapnik?

2009-10-23 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
It is probably due to a fresh planet import. http://matt.sandbox.cloudmade.com is currently up to date. Shaun On 23 Oct 2009, at 15:21, Ian Caldwell wrote: I put a few roads in last night and when I checked them this morning they were missing from the level 14,15,16 in Maplink. I then added

Re: [Talk-us] Parking on the Street, Variable Availability Parking

2009-10-23 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 23 Oct 2009, at 18:02, Christopher Covington wrote: From the wiki, Parking spaces along streets are currently not tagged. Only parking lots of reasonable size are mapped, not every place where a car could be parked. Is there any solution to this? At, for example, the student

Re: [OSM-talk] Randomly disappearing streets

2009-10-22 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Hi, Do you have some examples? Shaun On 22 Oct 2009, at 14:00, Bev M Ewen-Smith wrote: Hi, I am getting reports from users looking at OSM in different towns in UK, of randomly disappearing streets. Is there some mischief afoot? Regards Bev Examples: Sands Road, Gap Road and Gap Crescent

Re: [OSM-talk] Randomly disappearing streets

2009-10-22 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 22 Oct 2009, at 14:19, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Shaun, You mean the examples Bev gave aren't good enough? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Shaun McDonald Sent: 22 October 2009 2

Re: [OSM-talk] Randomly disappearing streets

2009-10-22 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Message- From: talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Shaun McDonald Sent: 22 October 2009 14:39 To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) Cc: osm-talk Talk; Bev M Ewen-Smith Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Randomly disappearing streets Hi Bev, Rather I

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 21 Oct 2009, at 09:44, Ulf Lamping wrote: Peter Childs schrieb: Yes But, If a Pub is tagged amenity=pub disused=yes The thing looks like a put (ie large pub like lables) hence works relatively well as a land mark, it just happens to be closed and does not sell Beer anymore. Its still

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Proper attribution

2009-10-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 21 Oct 2009, at 18:58, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Peter Miller wrote: Sure, so lets get that page showing how things should be onto the wiki I think we've got that bit already:

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:05, Lesi wrote: how will you tag unmined deposits in such a scheme? If there is a unmined deposit, the mineshaft is not in use anymore - disused=yes Do NOT use something like disused=yes as a modifier, you instead need to add an extra level of indirection, so that

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC -(man_made=mineshaft)

2009-10-20 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 20 Oct 2009, at 14:44, Lesi wrote: On 20 Oct 2009, at 12:05, Lesi wrote: how will you tag unmined deposits in such a scheme? If there is a unmined deposit, the mineshaft is not in use anymore - disused=yes Do NOT use something like disused=yes as a modifier, you instead need to

Re: [OSM-talk] Weird changes in map?

2009-10-19 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
In Potlatch select the way and then hit the h key or click the number in the lower left to get to the same dialog. Shaun On 19 Oct 2009, at 18:17, MP wrote: I encountered way http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/30722618 From history it seems it was probably some forest before someone

Re: [Talk-us] Thoughts on tagging a line of trees?

2009-10-17 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
barrier=hedge is what I would use. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:barrier%3Dhedge Shaun On 17 Oct 2009, at 08:50, David ``Smith'' wrote: Does anyone have a suggestion on mapping/tagging the lines of trees that tend to be found along rural property lines? Example:

Re: [Talk-us] Thoughts on tagging a line of trees?

2009-10-17 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
When would that be appropriate? A link to a photo would be useful. Shaun On 17 Oct 2009, at 14:51, Anthony wrote: Along with foot=yes if appropriate? On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 4:21 AM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: barrier=hedge is what I would use. http

Re: [Talk-us] Thoughts on tagging a line of trees?

2009-10-17 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
the aerial, it's not clear whether or not that's the case. On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: When would that be appropriate? A link to a photo would be useful. Shaun On 17 Oct 2009, at 14:51, Anthony wrote: Along with foot=yes if appropriate

Re: [OSM-talk] New OSMF/OSM Blog

2009-10-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
I've just added http://blog.osmfoundation.org/ to http://blogs.openstreetmap.org/ (Yep watch that s again) Shaun On 16 Oct 2009, at 11:06, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: OSMF has established a new Blog which will be used to communicate official announcements and other OSM

Re: [Talk-GB] Is the London congestion zone included within OSM at present?

2009-10-15 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 15 Oct 2009, at 12:09, Peter Miller wrote: Does anyone know if the London Congestion zone boundary included in OSM? I can find it on a quick inspection of part of the boundary. Which part of the boundary can you find it? Unless you meant can't in your last sentence. ;-) Also note

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik shelter rendering

2009-10-13 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 13 Oct 2009, at 12:04, Claudius wrote: True. In german we say Schutzhütte (losely translates as protection hut) and the german wikipedia article shows good examples in pictures: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schutzhütte (ignore the one in the lower right corner). These shelters are only

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military)

2009-10-13 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 13 Oct 2009, at 16:35, Gilles Corlobé wrote: -Message d'origine- De : Russ Nelson [mailto:nel...@crynwr.com] Envoyé : mardi 13 octobre 2009 16:38 À : Gilles Corlobé Cc : talk@openstreetmap.org Objet : Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - (boundary=military) Gilles

Re: [OSM-talk] view blocks received?

2009-10-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 7 Oct 2009, at 11:06, Lars Francke wrote: I'm sure someone else will be able to better answer this question but it seems as if moderators and administrators are able to block certain users from using the API. Additionaly it seems as if there are now different roles for users: administrators

Re: [Talk-GB] Gravesend Dumfries Mapping Parties Today

2009-10-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Sorry, I'm a little too far away, in Dumfries for the Mapping Party here, so if anyone in the central belt or north England wants to come along, please do. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Dumfries/MappingParty2009-10 Shaun On 10 Oct 2009, at 06:15, Peter Childs wrote: There is a

Re: [OSM-talk] SteveC should decide

2009-10-08 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 8 Oct 2009, at 10:39, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Gervase Markham wrote: oneway=no might be useful in the very rare case that mappers for some reason keep marking a road as oneway, but it's actually not! But I'd expect a note= to be more appropriate. Other than that, I agree it and noexit=no

Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey 7th series available

2009-10-06 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 6 Oct 2009, at 21:24, Frankie Roberto wrote: 2009/10/6 Steve Chilton s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk I am pleased to announce that the first of the OS 7th series out-of- copyright maps are available for use in OSM. Very brief details of the sheets and how to access them is available on the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] TIGER Addressing Import

2009-10-03 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 3 Oct 2009, at 17:42, Mike N. wrote: It needs to follow the road way to some extent, but it might be possible to simplify by reducing node count so that it doesn't exactly follow the road. In the samples I have seen, house placement is much different than the road path when

Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] TIGER Addressing Import

2009-10-03 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 3 Oct 2009, at 17:42, Mike N. wrote: It needs to follow the road way to some extent, but it might be possible to simplify by reducing node count so that it doesn't exactly follow the road. In the samples I have seen, house placement is much different than the road path when

Re: [OSM-talk] Flickr Now Supports OSM Tags

2009-09-29 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 29 Sep 2009, at 11:21, Claudius wrote: Anyone (*blinking at Frankie*) knows how long it will takes after adding the osm machine tag untile the View in OpenStreetMap (btw. I think that link should be written without spaces) link appears straight below the picture? And how long about the

Re: [Talk-us] Restriction tagging

2009-09-29 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Photos would be really, really useful for examples. On 29 Sep 2009, at 13:33, Anthony wrote: I have to admit I'm curious. What are the signs for that, and where are they? On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Nakor nakor...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am wondering how you can map that when you

Re: [OSM-talk] geolocation with GPS in iPhone Safari ???

2009-09-27 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 27 Sep 2009, at 20:06, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/9/26 bernhard b...@datenkueche.com: The geolocation API in iPhone Safari does not give the correct position. Can somebody confirm that iPhone Safari has no access to GPS? did you try to contact Microsoft support? Why would

Re: [Talk-transit] Railway. Source= GPS

2009-09-25 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 25 Sep 2009, at 09:04, Frankie Roberto wrote: Hi Dave, Some people have found more luck getting a GPS signal in the carriage ends (I believe they're called the vestibules?) - however it's a pretty uncomfortable journey stood their the entire time. Yes it called a vestibule.

Re: [OSM-talk] Breach of Copyright?

2009-09-25 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 25 Sep 2009, at 15:27, Dave F. wrote: Chris Hill wrote: Dave F. wrote: Tom Hughes wrote: On 25/09/09 13:16, Dave F. wrote: I had an email conversation with the mapping officer from my local council. He intimated that the data relating to public rights of way, and its associated

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate nodes incorrectly removed by bot BugBuster ?

2009-09-25 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Another bad thing about that bot is that it is producing a changeset for each edit, with nearly 10 changesets per minute. On 25 Sep 2009, at 16:49, Pieren wrote: Dear list, A bot running under the user name BugBuster is currently modifying many closed ways and remove nodes listed twice,

Re: [Talk-transit] East Lothian Bus Stops lack any details on the ground

2009-09-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 23 Sep 2009, at 23:50, Peter Miller wrote: On 23 Sep 2009, at 19:32, Shaun McDonald wrote: Hi, Yesterday I was out checking a few bus stops in East Lothian (cycling from Musselburgh out along the coast to North Berwick). Pretty much all of them had no information other than a flag which

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch doing source=GPS in error?

2009-09-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 24 Sep 2009, at 09:04, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/24 Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk: We? The talk-au list Anyway, you all seem to have missed source=User Defined on map It also says on the map features page: You can use any tags you like as long as the values are verifiable. However, there

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch doing source=GPS in error?

2009-09-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 24 Sep 2009, at 12:54, John Smith wrote: 2009/9/24 Someoneelse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk: I think that it's easy to get too prescriptive... I'm not suggesting anyone do any of that, I'm pointing out how silly it is to say gps is more precise than saying survey. A survey could mean

Re: [OSM-talk] Newbie - questions I didn't find definate answers in the wiki or list archives

2009-09-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 20 Sep 2009, at 20:27, Timothy C Litwiller wrote: county highway = residential surface=paved smoothness=good poor county highway = residential surface=paved smoothness=bad Please don't use smoothness=* as it is not a descriptive tag. Shaun smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic

Re: [OSM-talk] NaPTAN bus stop import

2009-09-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
You'll find that this has been talked about on the talk-gb and the talk-transit mailing lists as they are not of global importance, rather just nation UK importance. Shaun On 21 Sep 2009, at 10:06, Mike Harris wrote: Hi Can someone expand a little on what is happening with the NaPTAN bus

Re: [OSM-talk] sports=billiard and sports=snooker ?

2009-09-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 21 Sep 2009, at 14:34, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Guenther Meyer d@sordidmusic.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 07:16:45AM +, Valent Turkovic wrote: Hi, I haven't seen billiard and snooker tags. Have you tagged any billiard club, and if you have

Re: [OSM-talk] sports=billiard and sports=snooker ?

2009-09-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 21 Sep 2009, at 15:22, Norbert Hoffmann wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: sport = billard billard = pool or sport = billard billard = snooker There are currently no such tags in OSM Wiki, should we suggest these tags ot is it ok to just start using them? How will then other people know

Re: [OSM-talk] sports=billiard and sports=snooker ?

2009-09-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 21 Sep 2009, at 16:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/9/21 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: The documentation comes after some significant usage of the tag. There is no need to spend time documenting everything straight away. yes, and if different approaches for the same

Re: [OSM-talk] planet-090916.osm.bz2 - inconsistent dump?

2009-09-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
There is more information available on this wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Planet.osm/FAQ Shaun On 21 Sep 2009, at 20:33, Marcin Cieslak wrote: I tried to import planet-090916.osm.bz2 into the postgres database using osmosis, using empty schema from: URL:

Re: [Talk-transit] London Bridge

2009-09-18 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 18 Sep 2009, at 15:13, Frankie Roberto wrote: Then, make a node on each track to represent where the trains stop. There can be more than one of these if there are a few stopping points (eg platform 1a, 1b). Tag this railway=stop. All of these stopping points, plus the platforms,

Re: [Talk-transit] London Bridge

2009-09-18 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 18 Sep 2009, at 17:42, Peter Miller wrote: We then have enough information for people to play trains! If the station has multiple levels then each element should have a layer tag and we will need to consider how one manages a single level (concourse) where one side has a level entrance to

Re: [Talk-GB] Locating Postboxes article Guardian

2009-09-17 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Nice article, though I'm sure there is an inaccuracy there as the Royal Mail don't actually know the exact locations of the post boxes, instead they have a rough description which was provided through the FOI. Shaun On 17 Sep 2009, at 10:48, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi all, Just in case you

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap cheat mug now available

2009-09-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 16 Sep 2009, at 10:35, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Miércoles, 16 de Septiembre de 2009, Łukasz Jernaś escribió: 2009/9/16 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: With this and the new hi-viz vests, we could re-launch the OSM merchandiseparaphernalia shop. New hi-viz vests? Were and

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 16 Sep 2009, at 15:42, Valent Turkovic wrote: On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 13:14:15 +0200, Ben Laenen wrote: The only thing highway=path says is that wide vehicles like cars can't drive there. How do you differentiate from path and footpath tag? What is the difference between them? Can you

[OSM-talk] State of the Map 2008 presentations

2009-09-15 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Hi, If you have any presentations from last years SOTM uploaded to slideshare or similar, can you please add the link to it from http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2008#Presentations ? Shaun smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature

Re: [Talk-GB] More NaPTAN Counties Uploaded - Bristol and Cheshire East

2009-09-15 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 15 Sep 2009, at 22:48, Thomas Wood wrote: ref/local_ref has been argued here in the past, I can't remember the reason for settling on the latter, I personally prefer the former. ref should be a national reference whilst local_ref is a reference on a more local basis, in this case usually

Re: [OSM-talk] Nokia N97

2009-09-12 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 12 Sep 2009, at 19:05, Jonas Häggqvist wrote: Steve Chilton wrote: Friend is thinking of getting Nokia N97 Can it save GPS tracks for OSM uploading? Can you use OSM maps on it in any way? No info on N97 on OSM wiki. You can use all the Java options available for other phones, which has

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=steps ramp=yes mapping stairs.

2009-09-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
: ramp:luggage=yes|automatic|manual didn't see may of those.. On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: I have used bicycle=yes where there is a guide rail to help people take their bike up and over the steps/bridge. Shaun smime.p7s Description: S/MIME

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=steps ramp=yes mapping stairs.

2009-09-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Sep 2009, at 17:10, Tobias Knerr wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: I have used bicycle=yes where there is a guide rail to help people take their bike up and over the steps/bridge. It's a matter of definition, I guess. My opinion is that the OSM vehicle class bicycle doesn't include

Re: [OSM-talk] how to map this? cycleway or footpath?

2009-09-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 10 Sep 2009, at 11:21, Roy Wallace wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 8:05 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/9/10 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: Because of the presence of the bicycle symbol on the ground, I'd say highway=cycleway;bicycle=designated;foot=yes. If that

Re: [OSM-talk] mapnik rendering

2009-09-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 10 Sep 2009, at 19:40, Richard Weait wrote: On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Steve Chiltons.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk wrote: I don't know whether I have missed something, or else am just lucky, but mapnik is rendering the things I am editing super-fast. Two new and different renders of

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Data Used in Upcoming Monopoly Game

2009-09-09 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 9 Sep 2009, at 17:00, Ian Dees wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote: Does the osmify bookmarklet http://blog.johnmckerrell.com/2007/12/31/new-version-of-osmify-bookmarklet/ work in the Monopoly game? No. It appears that they might be using a special

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM Data Used in Upcoming Monopoly Game

2009-09-09 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 9 Sep 2009, at 17:16, Ian Dees wrote: On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk wrote: The game is built using Flash so the osmify bookmarklet won't work as it needs the javascript api instead. The game is built entirely with JavaScript and HTML

Re: [OSM-talk] source=(survey, yahoo, gps...)

2009-09-08 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 8 Sep 2009, at 12:21, Someoneelse wrote: Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: El Martes, 8 de Septiembre de 2009, John Smith escribió: 2009/9/8 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es: It would be very nice to have JOSM add a source tag to the changeset if a WMS layer has been used during

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Street View copyright question

2009-09-08 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 8 Sep 2009, at 22:21, Eric Wolf wrote: Further, you should only be using satellite imagery to generate OSM data if the copyright has been released for that purpose (like Yahoo's imagery in the US) or if the imagery is provided without restriction (like USGS imagery). Why do you

Re: [OSM-talk] Google Street View copyright question

2009-09-08 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 9 Sep 2009, at 00:02, Ian Dees wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au- kbc.org wrote: On Wednesday 09 Sep 2009 2:40:49 am Anthony wrote: Is it okay to use Google Street View to confirm turning restrictions, street names, etc? This seems like an obvious yes

Re: [Talk-transit] Mapping Tram Lines

2009-09-07 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 7 Sep 2009, at 16:57, Jerry Clough - OSM wrote: Thanks Shaun. I thought I'd have to find an example outside the UK. Next time I travel on the tram I'll pay attention to traffic restrictions instead of trying to fix some no-name streets. :-) I did think of another restriction, which

Re: [OSM-talk] how to get the data for a country on a daily basis.

2009-09-04 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Hi, You could use Osmosis to import the daily diffs and crop the data to just india. Shaun On 4 Sep 2009, at 08:02, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: Hi, I have a server serving India specific data from OSM. I need to update the data on a daily basis, whereas my current source for India data is

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping application that works on Blackberry - TrackMyJourney

2009-09-04 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:08, Ed Avis wrote: I think I'll still use my Garmin GPS for recording tracks, since I presume it has better sensitivity than the Blackberry's builtin GPS, but I think you could use this app to record traces too. I haven't dug around to see if it lets you export

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping application that works on Blackberry - TrackMyJourney

2009-09-04 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 4 Sep 2009, at 17:51, Ed Avis wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: [TMJ-Mobile app on Blackberry] If your blackberry has bluetooth, you could use a bluetooth GPS instead of the built in GPS. I have a Garmin unit with USB - I wonder if I can connect that somehow? After all the Blackberry

Re: [OSM-talk] A tile that just won't update

2009-08-31 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 31 Aug 2009, at 10:14, Jon Burgess wrote: 2009/8/31 Tom Chance t...@acrewoods.net: There's a curious Mapnik problem in Peckham, London: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.47008mlon=-0.06592zoom=16layers=B000FTF That industrial park has been split into two halves at that particular

Re: [Talk-GB] Edinburgh Meetups: Glasgow Central Scotland

2009-08-26 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 27 Aug 2009, at 00:15, Chris Fleming wrote: On 26/08/09 16:29, Callum Noble wrote: Hi Bob, Sounds like a good idea. I organized a meetup in Glasgow back in Feb '08. There were a few Edinburgh people came through but in the end there weren't as many people came as had posted to the list

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 24 Aug 2009, at 09:35, Tim Waters (chippy) wrote: Hi Alexander, Nice to see it popular, however... a few of us like to use a twitter search for openstreetmap to see what humans are saying but recently pretty much all of the tweets we receive for this search are from these bots. Would it

Re: [OSM-talk] Duplicate TIGER ways along county lines

2009-08-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
When I'm fixing these, I just delete one of the ways in OSM and make sure that all the other connections are correct. It really doesn't matter about the tiger tags. As I don't know where there are county boundaries, I've just been leaving them as is (though occasionally been having to move

Re: [OSM-talk] Twitter bots

2009-08-24 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 24 Aug 2009, at 18:56, Alexander Klink wrote: Sorry, didn't think about that. I've changed the bot to use osm.org, my bots will use that right away, I hope the other bot owners will update as well. 8-) There currently isn't a shortlink for the browse pages. Instead you'll need to use

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - incline up down

2009-08-22 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 22 Aug 2009, at 11:48, John Smith wrote: --- On Sat, 22/8/09, Morten Kjeldgaard m...@bioxray.au.dk wrote: Not really. There's a lot of elevation data available in the GPS traces, and since roads where incline=* is relevant are drawn along GPS traces, it's a matter of exploiting that

Re: [OSM-talk] FW: [OpenStreetMap] Deine E-Mail- Adresse bestätigen

2009-08-21 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Have you tried logging in? Could you please try using the Lost Password form: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/forgot-password Shaun On 21 Aug 2009, at 10:36, Mike Harris wrote: Hi Kein Sprachproblem! Nur dass ich wüsste nicht, wie ich könnte sein Problem erlösen! Mit freundlichen

Re: [OSM-talk] How to tag this barrier?

2009-08-17 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 17 Aug 2009, at 16:42, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote: To the left of those, you'll see a couple of yellow foldable thingamajig. They are supposed to stay folded at ground level to allow traffic, and they can be deployed up and locked up (with a key) in order to prevent any vehicles from

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM-Postal an idea to extend Walking-Papers to not connected people

2009-08-16 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 15 Aug 2009, at 00:38, Michal Migurski wrote: Cool! I made the mistake of ignoring my OSM-talk mail for a few days, I'm really happy to see that people are thinking of ways to work with Walking Papers. I've been building up some steam to work on another set of change requests, now's the

Re: [OSM-talk] Status of the Local Chapter working group

2009-08-14 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 13 Aug 2009, at 22:07, Liz wrote: On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, Nick Black wrote: I'm proposing having an open call on Monday 17th August at 6pm BST at which anyone interested can talk through their comments or concerns, as we did in Amsterdam during SOTM. I know that this is short notice

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM status POIs?

2009-08-14 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Mappers have in the past put in stubs with a few nodes tailing off, to state that there is something here that needs to be surveyed further. Shaun On 14 Aug 2009, at 09:52, Mike Harris wrote: Good idea - but can we do it simply by adding the stub of a way at the relevant point? Mike Harris

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Non-existant streets

2009-08-12 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 12 Aug 2009, at 11:16, John Smith wrote: --- On Wed, 12/8/09, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, there is a way. You simply need to go to the area. More seriously, I don't see the point of this question since all data that we are supposed to collect are based on facts

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-12 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 12 Aug 2009, at 07:02, John Smith wrote: --- On Wed, 12/8/09, Nop ekkeh...@gmx.de wrote: There is no consent on which way to go to express the strict use case. Does there need to be? Not that this implies that I agree or disagree but strictly from a technical point of view all you

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-12 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 12 Aug 2009, at 10:51, Liz wrote: On Wed, 12 Aug 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote: No. You should use highway=cycleway;bicycle=no if you have a cycle path that you cannot walk on. Routing software already supports this. They don't support routing cyclists over the highway=path. Are you really

Re: [OSM-talk] openstreetmap.org completely down

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 08:35, Maarten Deen wrote: Andre Hinrichs wrote: Hi List, I just discovered, that the whole site seems to be down including www,api,gpx Hope, that mail is working. I will update the status at wiki to DOWN now. Please change if site is available again. Everything

Re: [OSM-talk] Proliferation of path vs. footway

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 09:20, Lauri Kytömaa wrote: Roy Wallace wrote: Is tagging the primary users intended to use the way verifiable? If not, it shouldn't be tagged. If it is, then is footway/cycleway As fine as it as a guideline, verifiability as a topic and was introduced into the wiki only

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 16:03, Markus Lindholm wrote: 2009/8/8 Tobias Knerr o...@tobias-knerr.de: Mike Harris wrote: And I still don't think turnstile is in any way a type of stile any more than a stile is a type of gate. +1 The English word for turnstiles may end with stile for some reason

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 17:12, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/11 Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.uk: Another property that turnstiles have is that usually one can pass in only one direction. But how that is going to be tagged if a turnstile is just a node I have no idea. A footway

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 17:39, Tobias Knerr wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: Another property that turnstiles have is that usually one can pass in only one direction. But how that is going to be tagged if a turnstile is just a node I have no idea. A footway going through it with the tag oneway

Re: [OSM-talk] park barrier

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:01, Tobias Knerr wrote: Shaun McDonald wrote: oneway=yes isn't a good idea, as oneway is generally assumed to / not/ affect pedestrians. (Or how many of you actually add an exception for pedestrians when mapping a highway with oneway=yes?) The exception being

Re: [Talk-GB] Wales Boundaries (Wrexham Denbighshire)

2009-08-11 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 11 Aug 2009, at 06:41, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 Aug 2009, at 23:09, Bogus Zaba wrote: With Denbighshire however I made a new relation (192442) and am slowly adding various ways that will make up this boundary. Not sure however how to edit the Denbighshire entry in the wiki to add

Re: [Talk-GB] NAPTAN update?

2009-08-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
Hi Tom, This is being discussed on the talk-transit mailing list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-transit Thomas Wood who is doing the import is on holiday for a couple of weeks at the moment if I remember right. Progress status will be available on

Re: [Talk-GB] Cambridge reversion needed

2009-08-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 10 Aug 2009, at 18:51, David Earl wrote: David Earl wrote: Ito OSM Mapper has reported no changes in Cambridge since 3/8, otherwise I'd have spotted this sooner. In fact, I've got no sessions recorded for any of the areas I'm monitoring since 4/8 - Peter, do you know why? The

Re: [Talk-GB] Progress on estimating coverage

2009-08-10 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
It would be interesting to see the same charts taking into account the nonames, to take into account the places that have been traced but not yet named. Shaun On 10 Aug 2009, at 23:35, Peter Reed wrote: I have now fixed the problem I was having with measuring the length of roads in

Re: [OSM-talk] Odd rendering at 0,0

2009-08-09 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
This has been discussed before on this list. See thread: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-June/037891.html And the dev list: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2009-May/015566.html Shaun On 9 Aug 2009, at 09:57, Steve Hill wrote: I noticed that there seems to be

Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch vs JOSM

2009-08-07 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 7 Aug 2009, at 12:46, Elizabeth Dodd wrote: On Wed, 5 Aug 2009, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2009/8/4 Liz ed...@billiau.net: Talking with my friends in Kosovo the laptops are underpowered and hang using JOSM the laptops are underpowered and hang using the browser and hence Potlatch the

Re: [Talk-GB] A13 and NCN13 getting muddled?

2009-08-07 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 7 Aug 2009, at 00:06, Mark Williams wrote: Peter Miller wrote: This is the A13 and it in the ncn13 relation which I think is wrong http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/23406798 Any thoughts? Anyone fancy following it up? Actually no, the NCN13 route _IS_ down the A13! Bizarre but

Re: [OSM-talk] [RFC] highway=unclassified currently is too ambiguous, so here's my proposal to fix it.

2009-08-06 Per discussione Shaun McDonald
On 6 Aug 2009, at 12:06, John Smith wrote: --- On Thu, 6/8/09, Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote: Routers can look for an abutters tag just as easily as using an urban area polygon. The abutters tag is dwindling in use as landuse polygons should be used

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