Annette wrote, Just a small point in this discussion. Even we, as good
scientists, fall into the trap of calling Freud's (and Piaget's for that
matter, and a whole host of others) theories, theories when in fact, if they
cannot be falsified they cannot be legitimately called theories. As such I
Re the discussion on Freud, I agree entirely with Chris and the other
TIPSters that Freud's ideas should be discussed in psychology classes
(though, of course, not taught as discoveries as they once were). I have,
however, one caveat. Unfortunately virtually all psychology texts give
On 25 November 2007 Beth wrote re the seduction theory episode:
[...] That said, I would like to find out how many other TIPSters
have come across this scenario: Masson's concept is still going
strong in textbooks! I inherited a Personality Theory class from
a colleague with medical
Correction: The URL for my first seduction theory journal article was
botched in my previous message. It should have been:
http://www.esterson.org/Masson_and_Freuds_seduction_theory.htm
--Allen Esterson
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Just a small point in this discussion. Even we, as good scientists, fall into
the trap of calling Freud's (and Piaget's for that matter, and a whole host of
others) theories, theories when in fact, if they cannot be falsified they
cannot be legitimately called theories. As such I think we need
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Just a small point in this discussion. Even we, as good scientists, fall
into the trap of calling Freud's (and Piaget's
I call them perspectives or views. I feel Piaget's ideas however, were clearly
(and in some cases have been) falsifiable. Most of the views in a personality
text are not strong theories, but then Psych is not known for strong theories.
In most journals, theoretical, speculative notions are
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Just a small point in this discussion. Even we, as good scientists,
fall into the trap of calling Freud's (and Piaget's for that matter,
and a whole host of others) theories, theories when in fact, if
they cannot be falsified they cannot be
I don't think we need to appeal to Freud, here. Imus has a pattern of
misogynistic and bigoted comments that goes back a long time. That's
sufficient to strongly suggest that he's a misogynistic bigot.
m
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I don't think we need to appeal to Freud, here
I don't think many would agree that MSNBC did the right thing. Two weeks
suspension doesn't cut it. To really send a message, he should be out!
When are we going to get serious about rejecting the I was only kidding,
Can't you take a joke? and Sorry if you were offended apologies?
Beth
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I don't think many would agree that MSNBC did the right thing. Two weeks
suspension doesn't cut it. To really send a message, he should be out!
When are we going to get serious about rejecting the I
Louis-
Though I don't completely agree with your assessment- I do agree with the
manifest idea of the absurdity of all this hype (in the media, I mean). On the
one hand, perhaps things are better than you seem to think. (I have been doing
taxes most of the day so I admit my data are somewhat
As Edmund Burke said, All that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good
men do
nothing. Maybe, then, Tim, this is evidence that we need to be and should be
less silent
and do more on a daily basis.
Make it a good day.
--Louis--
Louis Schmier
I was not trying to be huffy... I think the question is ill-conceived.
On Jul 13, 2006, at 11:01 AM, Pollak, Edward wrote:
was Freud trying to be rational about irrational behavior?
What am I missing? If a student asked me that question I'd simply say,
yes, that's what he was TRYING to do.
was Freud trying to be rational about irrational behavior?
What am I missing? If a student asked me that question I'd simply say, yes,
that's what he was TRYING to do. What's with all the huffiness? (other than
the source, of course.)
Ed
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If a student in my class asked a question like this, I would certainly
have to say Please elaborate.
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have to say Please elaborate.
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was Freud trying to be rational about irrational
small an influence reason and honest good will exert
upon events in the political field.
Albert Einstein
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Dear Tipsters,
I reproduce (far) below the recent posting by Michael Donnelly and two last
week by Jon Mueller and Alan Esterson.
I think it is clear now that we have not found the term iceberg in Freud, but
I would like to draw attention again to the point made by Jon and Alan that
Freud did
The search for historical
"firsts" almost always ends up like this. The line between a "true"
original instance and a "near-miss" precursor becomes finer and finer
until it seems to vanish completely. Then one starts erecting fairly
aribtrary "signposts" in order to rule out the instances one
in the process of
doing the same thing for the iceberg idea.
-Mike D.
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quote: source
The search
On May 24, 2006, at 1:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I've requested a copy of the first edition of volume 2 of Elemente to see what old Fechner actually said on p, 521. It will be in German, of course, which I don't understand, but I think I will be able to recognize "eisberg" if it appears
In an earlier post, I noted my suspicion that our acceptance of Fechner
as the possible source of the iceberg analogy may be premature, given the
ambiguity in the Ernest Jones reference on which this conclusion is
based. I said that I was going to check the original (Book 2 of Elemente
der
On May 24, 2006, at 6:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Neverthless, I don't think I would consider the Herbart version as you'vedescribed it as a true iceberg analogy. Just because it involves icefloating isn't enough. It has to be clear that it is intended toillustrate that, like an iceberg, the
I spent a couple of pleasant hours on the PsychClassics website. Chris
has several articles which discuss consciousness and psychoanalytic
concepts but I was unable to find any use of the iceberg analogy.
But I did discover this interesting read:
Boring, Edwin G. (1951). The woman problem.
I've had another go at tracing the iceberg analogy in Freud's writings,
but with no success. Numerous websites quote Freud in the same words:
The mind is like an iceberg, it floats with one-seventh of its bulk above
water. But not one of them gives a reference, though a couple give
(different)
Check out a work by a British dude named Gilbert Ryle.I think the
book is titled the Concept of Mind.
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Check out a work by a British dude named Gilbert Ryle.I think the
book is titled the Concept of Mind.
Michael Sylvester,PhD
Daytona Beach
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Check out a work by a British dude named Gilbert Ryle.I think the
book is titled the Concept of Mind.
Michael Sylvester
Well, the good news here, then, is that most likely Freud was not a
plagiarist, stealing Fechner analogy :)
Annette
Quoting Allen Esterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
I've had another go at tracing the iceberg analogy in Freud's writings,
but with no success. Numerous websites quote Freud in the
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Well, the good news here, then, is that most likely Freud
On 19 May 2006 at 7:39, Allen Esterson wrote:
I've had another go at tracing the iceberg analogy in Freud's writings,
but with no success. Numerous websites quote Freud in the same words:
The mind is like an iceberg, it floats with one-seventh of its bulk
above water. But not one of them
8:56 AM
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book is titled the Concept of Mind.
Michael Sylvester,PhD
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In the entertainment world, I don't know if plagiarism even
exists as acategory (copyright would be more of a concern). As entertainment,
itcould bedefendedas an arcane pop culture allusion a la
Dennis Miller. (Anddon't tell me thatNBC News
Title: [tips] Re: Freud iceberg quote: source
The Kentucky Derby-West Wing plagiarism
segment can be seen at http://www.comedycentral.com/shows/the_daily_show/videos/most_recent/index.jhtml
by clicking to watch the segment titled Plagiarism. And it turns out that I think
the reporter would
Laundry?
Cook dinner?
Grade term papers?
Waste time tracking down the mystery source of the quote?
YES!
The search for the elusive iceberg quote is turning out to be quite
fun?MUCH more fun than grading term papers ;)
I did a simple google search and found it on several website,
including
.
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Laundry?
Cook dinner?
Grade term papers?
Waste time tracking down the mystery source
Not Freud, but Nietzsche.
Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Psychology Counseling
University of Central Arkansas
Conway, AR 72035
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/18/06 11:35 AM
I am looking for a source on the Freud iceberg quote. You know the one:
The mind is like an iceberg, it floats
Nietzsche, interesting. Any idea which of his works specifically? A brief
Google search didn't turn up much.
I've seen this analogy attributed to Fechner, who supposedly uses it in
his Elements of Psychophysics (1860). This makes sense to me (without
checking the source) because the Elements was
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Nietzsche, interesting. Any idea which of his works
specifically? A brief Google search didn't turn up much.
I've seen this analogy attributed
Scholes
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Not Freud, but Nietzsche.
Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D.
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Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 13:39:23 -0500
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I went to our library today and I browsed every volume of The Standard
Edition of the Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud edited by
James Strachey (1966 version).
I searched every index, and the word iceberg never appears.
I also looked at every Fechner ref (there were lots), found no
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I went to our library today and I browsed every volume of The Standard
Edition of the Complete Psychological Works of Sigmund Freud edited by
James Strachey (1966 version).
I searched every index
My understanding is that Rorschach did indeed select cards that seemed to do a
decent job of distinguishing schizophrenic (or perhaps more broadly psychotic)
individuals from non-schizophrenic individuals. So Christopher Green is
correct that at least some of Rorschach stimuli were selected
I thought I'd already posted this message this morning (Friday) but as I
see no sign of it online at TIPS I'll post it again (or for the first
time!)
On 21 October Fulton Aubyn wrote:
I don't share your blanket rejection of the Gay Biography; it certainly
is favorably disposed towards Freud,
A few points in response to Stephen's and Aubyn's postings on 21 October:
Stephen wrote:
Blaming Freud and his undeniable deadness are not the issue here.
The question was whether Freudian concepts are still used in the
practice of present-day clinical psychology. Unfortunately, they are.
And I
Allen Esterson wrote:
Gay endorses Freud's absurd interpretations and dubious claim of a cure in
the Little Hans case history. And far from the development of the little
boy's horse phobia being something unexplained as Gay contends, the
patient told his father (who reported the boy's
Much more importantly
(IMHO), censoring one's history course to suit ones personal
theoretical sensibilities is just plain Orwellian. Freud was
influential -- you teach it. You don't have to enodrse it. (I assume
you teach about, say, eugenics without endorsing it, yes?)
Astonished,
--
Phrenology was influential but, other than for a brief mention in the context of localization of function, would you spend much time on it? Would it be Orwellian to not mention it?
Michael T. Scoles, Ph.D.Interim Chair, Dept. Psychology CounselingUniversity of Central ArkansasConway, AR 72035
I don't know what place you mean. Making a point with another example doesn't put you anywhere special.
You are saying that phrenology, as silly as it was, deserves mention in a historical context. That is what some are arguing when it comes to Freud. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/22/04 2:07:33 PM
Allen wrote
I've rebutted Aubyn's repeated contention that the assumption behind my
postings on Freud is that psychology suffers from an uncritical acceptance
of Freudian dogma more than once, and I don't know what more I can say to
disabuse him of his conviction that this is the case.
Aubyn
I teach Developmental Psychology and
noticed that the problems Gary points were more obvious in those texts. So, a few years ago (probably
more than 10) I added to my list of criteria for textbooks in that course that
the book must minimize its presentation of Freudian Theory. If a text
I think it would be interesting to conduct a survey of clinical
psychologists on this list.
1. When did you receive your training?
2. Where did you receive your training?
3. Were the ideas of Freud a significant part of your training?
4. If Freud were not a significant part of your training,
Stephen Black wrote:
In other words, the Rorschach is a fine example of a well-constructed
and validated test, exactly as an empiricist would have wanted?
No, it is mostly worthless. But my understanding is that it was
constructed along empiricist lines. My point was that the two are not
://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=57
http://www.butterfliesandwheels.com/articleprint.php?num=58
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Author: Gerald Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Freud--to teach?
It is indeed a more dynamic Hydra
On 13 May 2004, Stephen Black wrote [snip]:
When I teach Freud, I end with the following quotation from the great
Nobel prize-winning scientist, Peter Medawar:
[Freud's theory] although posing as science, had in fact more in
common with primitive myth than with science... it resembled
I wrote:
When I teach Freud, I end with the following quotation from the great
Nobel prize-winning scientist, Peter Medawar:
[Freud's theory] although posing as science, had in fact more in
common with primitive myth than with science... it resembled
astrology rather than
On 13 May 2004, Allen Esterson wrote:
While I agree that Freud should be covered in basic psychology, the
problem is that a lot of mythological stories are presented in College
psychology texts about the origins and development of psychoanalysis and
about Freuds case histories
Allen's
Cheri Budzynsky wrote on 16 April:
The May issue of Scientific American has an article on Freud and
Neuroscience for those that are interested. I am a little dismayed by
these articles since it is a very small group of neuroscientists that
believe that neuroscience can explain Freud. These
of possible interest d
David K. Hogberg, PhD
Professor of Psychology, Emeritus
Albion College, Albion MI 49224
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Cheri Budzynsky wrote on 16 April:
The May issue of Scientific American has an
A correction:
Sorry, I made a slip in my last message (no excuses, but it *is* difficult
keeping track of Freuds contradictory assertions). I wrote:
Odder still, although in 1925 he was still asserting that in both cases
[boys and girls] the mother is the original [libidinal] object (1925, SE
Stephen Black wrote.
First, I went back to the site that I referenced for that BBC tape of
Freud, and the gloss does say that Freud read the message. In fact,
there's a picture of Freud holding the script. But it is interesting
to know that Freud had mastered English, even if his thick
Interestingly, during a discussion of Freud in my Intro.
class, one of the students said of Freud, in a dismissive
tone:
Didn't he use cocaine? Maybe that's where he came up
with his wild ideas about sex!
Well, that's not a perspective on Freud I'd entertained
before.
Thought you'd all enjoy
"Didn't he use cocaine? Maybe that's where he came upwith his
wild ideas about sex!""
Perhaps not, but I would wager that it contributed to his own high regard
for his theories and inability to take the feedback that patients gave him
without blaming them rather than examining his theories
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Interestingly, during a discussion of Freud in my Intro.
class, one of the students said of Freud, in a dismissive
tone:
Didn't he use cocaine? Maybe that's where he came up
with his wild ideas about sex!
You might politely point out to the student that people had wild
I hope I'll be allowed a fourth posting to correct an aberration on my
part.
Out of the minds of babes and students should, of course, have read Out
of the mouths of babes and students.
Anyone know where the original (correct) quote comes from? Sounds as if
could be Shakespeare (it usually is -
Is that excerpt from the Nova program, Freud Under Analysis?
I assume the older friend is Breuer (Fliess not my guess).
Rob
Rob Hoff, Professor of Psychology
Mercyhurst College
Erie, PA 16546
Stephen Black wrote:
This morning I'm going to play a remarkable audio tape of Freud,
suffering
: Wednesday, March 10, 2004 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: Freud query
Is that excerpt from the Nova program, Freud Under Analysis?
I assume the older friend is Breuer (Fliess not my guess).
Rob
Rob Hoff, Professor of Psychology
Mercyhurst College
Erie, PA 16546
Stephen Black wrote:
This morning I'm
Extract from 1939 Freud tape:
I started my professional activity as a neurologist trying to bring
relief to my neurotic patients. Under the influence of an older
friend and by my own efforts I discovered some important new facts
about the unconscious in psychic life, the role of instinctual
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:15:23 -0400 Lenore Frigo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.
This is from one of my online students...
Is Freud's id, ego and superego based on Plato's three part soul which
consists of reason, emotion and appetite?
Thanks for any help,
Lenore Frigo
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Most
While I understand that these concepts do not directly map on to each
other, I believe that they are similar enough that one could make the
argument that they do seem to be very similar to each other. When I teach
history of psych, I spend more time discussing other individuals who had
Allen Esterson wrote:
Leonore Frigo wrote:
This is from one of my online students...
Is Freud's id, ego and superego based on Plato's three part
soul which consists of reason, emotion and appetite?
Christopher Green replied:
No, acutally this was someone else.
When I was an
simply that others may simply live
Contemporary saying.
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Thanks for the reference, Cecil. I'm looking
When I was an undergraduate, oh so many years ago, I wrote what, at the
time, I considered to be my most original paper for a class (i.e., I had not
read anything like it before). In the paper, I compared Freud's three
components of the psyche with Plato's three components of the Republic
(i.e.,
Steven Specht wrote:
When I was an undergraduate, oh so many years ago, I wrote what, at the
time, I considered to be my most original paper for a class (i.e., I had not
read anything like it before). In the paper, I compared Freud's three
components of the psyche with Plato's three
Rod Hetzl wrote:
Hey folks. Someone made a passing reference in one of our recent
religion discussions about how Freud believed that people were too
inherently self-centered (or something else) to truly turn the other
cheek or love others. Can someone point me to some of Freud's writing
I found "The Question of God" to be an interesting read. However, I thought
the author attempted too often to make implications about Freud's personal
life/behaviors that were unnecessary. And I should say that I'm a behaviorist
and no great fan of Freud or his theories.
Cecil
Hetzel, Rod
Thanks for the reference, Cecil. I'm looking forward to reading it.
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Subject: Re: Freud
On 10 Sep 2003, Hetzel, Rod wrote:
Hey folks. Someone made a passing reference in one of our recent
religion discussions about how Freud believed that people were too
inherently self-centered (or something else) to truly turn the other
cheek or love others. Can someone point me to some of
Sciences
Subject: Re: Freud and humanity
On 10 Sep 2003, Hetzel, Rod wrote:
Hey folks. Someone made a passing reference in one of our recent
religion discussions about how Freud believed that people were too
inherently self-centered (or something else) to truly turn
the other
cheek
Dear jean-Marc
Another source may be
Byck , R. (Ed.) (1974). Sigmund Freud. Cocaine Papers. New
York: Stonehill Publishers. The book includes notes by Freud's daughter,
Ana, and writings and letters from Sigmund Freud himself. Also includes a
history of cocaine during 19th Century.
Sincerely
Dr.
On 26 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Perreault wrote:
A student asked me for one or few references where he could find good
info regarding illicit drug usage during the Victorian era, and more
specifically Freud's usage of Cocaine.
Stephen Black replied:
My guess is that you'll find plenty of good stuff
On 26 Mar 2003, Jean-Marc Perreault wrote:
A student asked me for one or few references where he could
find good info regarding illicit drug usage during the Victorian era,
and more specifically Freud's usage of Cocaine.
Hi Marc:
My guess is that you'll find plenty of good stuff in E.M
Ugh. We don't have any choice NOW
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Must we endure circumcision jokes?
Is this Jewish week on Tips?
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I've read an excellent biography of Freud that claims he drew more
inspiration for his ideas (e.g., the Talmud) than he claimed.
I believe David Bakan wrote a book called _Freud and the Jewish Mystical
Tradition_. You might have a look at that.
--
Christopher D. Green
Thanks!!
Jim G
On 23 October John Kulig wrote:
Anna Freud was his daughter (who developed psychoanalytic ideas on
adolescence).
Anna Freud is most famous for her work with young children. Her bitter
dispute with Melanie Klein in relation to Kleins notions about supposed
pre-Oedipal infantile phantasies almost
James Guinee wrote:
2) Was he very religious, and/or did his religiosity play a role in
his theorizing or practice?
As far as I recall, no to the first question, but the second question
depends on whom you read/ask.
I've read an excellent biography of Freud that claims he drew more
Must we endure circumcision jokes?
Is this Jewish week on Tips?
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2) Was he very religious, and/or did his religiosity play a role in
his theorizing or practice?
As far as I recall, no to the first question, but the second question
depends on whom you read/ask.
I've read an excellent biography of Freud that claims he drew more
inspiration for his ideas
Traci:
Freud described himself as an atheist. But did had opinions on
the topic. He described religious experiences as oceanic - connections
between us and the outside. In his routine theories he believed ego
development to be clarification of the ego vis-à-vis the outside world
(i.e. an
On Wed, 23 Oct 2002 11:50:07 -0400 John Kulig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote.
Traci:
Freud described himself as an atheist. But did had opinions on
the topic. He described religious experiences as oceanic - connections
between us and the outside. In his routine theories he believed ego
Freud had six children: Mathilde, 1887; Jean-Martin, 1889; Olivier, 1891;
Ernst, 1892; Sophie, 1893; Anna, 1895.
I'm wondering about referring to Freud as an atheist Here's an excerpt
from the website of the National Goldman Museum for the Jewish Diaspora:
Freud was not a practicing Jew,
On 23 Oct 2002, Beth Benoit wrote:
For Freudophiles, here's an interesting ancestry website which shows names
of children, spouses, etc. Jean-Martin is listed in a couple of places as
Dr., but nothing more specific than that...
http://emquad.home.att.net/ancestry/fam00667.htm
There's a
John - thanks!
Traci
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Subject: Re: Freud questions
On 23 Oct 2002, Beth Benoit wrote:
For Freudophiles, here's an interesting ancestry website which shows
names
of children, spouses, etc. Jean-Martin is listed in a couple of places
as
Dr., but nothing more specific than that...
http
My thanks to Allen Esterson for clarifying the details of the
Fliess incident. Freud wasn't present for the original surgery
(as I had mistakenly said), but he was there when the rescuing
surgeon had to be called in. And none too happy, apparently.
This exchange gives me the opportunity to ask
Two points on Stephen Black's 6th December message:
We don't know if Freud was present when Fliess operated on Emma Eckstein.
His letters to Fliess do not say, but it seems to me very likely that he
was. After all, he was a physician and Eckstein was *his* patient, and
Fliess may well have
I seem to remember that he did research in university on the structure of
testes of the eel - maybe there was some mutilation involved? But not
female eels as far as I know.
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Bill Goss
College of the Rockies
Box 8500
Cranbrook, BC, Canada V1C 5L7
email:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002, Rob Weisskirch wrote:
TIPSfolk,
As I was lecturing on Freud, a student commented that Freud had performed
some genital mutilation on women. Although I think that this is probably
some twist of the Electra complex and penis envy, I thought since Freud
was a
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