So, just to be sure: if I connect the Touch in coax to a Cambridge audio
DACMagic that is conneceted in RCA to my amp, I should hear an
improvement (I haven't tested it yet) ?
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didjean;537416 Wrote:
So, just to be sure: if I connect the Touch in coax to a Cambridge audio
DACMagic that is conneceted in RCA to my amp, I should hear an
improvement (I haven't tested it yet) ?
Correct. However you probably need to listen to it carefully to hear
the difference as it is a
I've received my Touch last Friday and really like it. The sound out of
the analogue output is much better than my SB3 or Receiver. But there
is one thing that should be really improved: the Touch stand. It really
should be adjustable. When I am sting in my couch, I can barely see the
display
Thanks for the answer.
I'll give it a try this evening.
The analogue outputs are already better than the SB3 and Receiver.
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* Windows XP SP2 /
Could someone please let me know, or point me to the messages (in the
Squeezebox Server screen) for a successful (re)scan, and how it looks
at completion.
I'm suspicious that something is stopping my tinySC completing its scan
but not sure ...
my screen initially does scanning media (finds
I've successfully moved my entire 600GB and counting library off of my
drive, reformatted it and connected it directly to the Touch and I'm
getting nothing. SBS is running, it appears to be doing a light scan
of some sort and then nothing. Nothing pops up in My Music. I ejected
the drive and
Rangdo;537409 Wrote:
Wired connection (SBT cat5 cabled into a gigabit switch which is cat6
cabled to the server).
Ok, so another person not using using an external Server instead of
using the Touch built in SBS.
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metalbob;537456 Wrote:
I've successfully moved my entire 600GB and counting library off of my
drive, reformatted it and connected it directly to the Touch and I'm
getting nothing.
It might be the way you typed that, but it reads like you have an
freshly formatted drive attached to your
Hello,
I would like to open this thread to collect experiences of scaning
times of your music from an external USB HD using the internal
squeezebox server of the Touch (Touch as a stand alone player using an
external USB HD).
I've already posted my experiences in another thread, but I would like
Have you updated the firmware after unboxing?
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Mnyb;537350 Wrote:
If you have an 2 zone amp you can have multiroom el cheopo .
I see, because Zone 2 often (always?) requires analog. Thanks.
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Mnyb;537350 Wrote:
If you have an 2 zone amp you can have multiroom el cheopo .
I see, because Zone 2 often (always?) requires analog. Thanks.
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They are in ALAC format. Editing FLAC metadata is a nightmare on a Mac,
which is why I went that route. This Touch thing - as cool as it is -
doesn't seem to be working out too well for me here
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pounce;537474 Wrote:
Have you updated the firmware after unboxing?
The firmware is up-to-date (first thing done after starting the touch
for the first time), but what do you exactly mean with unboxing?
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m1abrams;537477 Wrote:
What format are the files in? I am not sure but the touch builtin
server I believe does not support ALAC.
don't use ALAC but search some other threads, I think 7.5.1 may have
added this support.
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ah...ok. Thanks!
...and how is your experience with the scaning?
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Too slow for my preference. I don't think anyone with a large collection
or a collection that changes a lot is going to want to use the internal
SBS at this point in time.
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Coming in 7.6 apparently. I guess I can hold off a bit longer and keep
this thing connected to my router/computer for now. I'm not even done
ripping my whole collection yet anyway.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=532796postcount=3
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I don't see it as important, but I can understand why a company would
want to stay as far away from the GPL virus license as possible.
To such a company I would say: Start writing your own os/whatever and
stop profiting from the -free- work of others
and what about a small NAS solution? how faster is it? Is there any not
too expensive (more or less 100 EUR) NAS HD, in which the squeezebox
server can be installed? I've already seen the list on the wiki, but
they all are too expensive and big.
Any experiences with this?
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Remember not to completely fill the USB drive with music. There must be
room for Touch to write the scan data and other things to the USB
drive.
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Phil Leigh;536874 Wrote:
It is frustrating but you need to understand that there are (at least) 2
seperate problems, both of which only impact certain people based on
THEIR specific combination of platform and music files. As such these
bugs can be very hard to prevent (and quite hard to
crimscrem;537347 Wrote:
May I ask why one would want to use both (or have both available)?
I thought about doing this so that I had the option of listening to
music in two channel without the subwoofer (using RCA). But just
curious why others would want to.
Works well if one upgrades
pfink;537523 Wrote:
Which file system did you format the drive with (FAT32, NTFS, EXT3,
etc)?
Probably not directed to me but my 320GB USB drive is FAT32, my 640GB
USB drive is NTFS, and my 2TB USB drive is EXT3. All work fine with my
Touch. 320 and 640 are USB powered, the 2TB is external
krochat;537518 Wrote:
I think there should be an option to disable or bypass the new file
scan once the database has been created. It could even prompt with
scan for new files? when a drive with an existing scan database has
been newly attached (or the Touch has been rebooted).
yeah...I
Throw some simple MP3's on the drive, see if those are read properly by
Touch server.
At least you will know if there is any HD incompatibility with your
Touch, while waiting for ALAC support. ;)
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krochat;537518 Wrote:
I was going to try swapping two USB drives in and out since my library
is too big to fit on one drive,...
On a filled up HD the Database will be on the slow end of the disk I
guess. You could try to split your Data 50:50.
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iPhone;537532 Wrote:
Probably not directed to me but my 320GB USB drive is FAT32, my 640GB
USB drive is NTFS, and my 2TB USB drive is EXT3. All work fine with my
Touch. 320 and 640 are USB powered, the 2TB is external powered from a
wall wart.
It was directed at the OP. He mentioned that he
iPhone;537530 Wrote:
Works well if one upgrades ones HT Receiver and wants to put the old one
in a nearby room. My across the street neighbor did just this. Moved the
old Receiver down stairs and dropped a Toslink cable down through the
wall. And he put a pair of powered speakers in the
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/19/logitech-squeezebox-touch-review/
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jo-wie;537545 Wrote:
On a filled up HD the Database will be on the slow end of the disk I
guess. You could try to split your Data 50:50.
Actually, the 750GB drive I mentioned is a FLAC -0 experiment to see
if I can play 96/24 files off an attached hard drive. (Not
satisfactory, stuttered for
The Touch should be putting out digital silence (24 zeroes) between
tracks with gaps. Some dacs treat this as no signal - although they
shouldn't.
Not sure if this is your problem?
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call
mcullinan;537520 Wrote:
My ALAC files arent being seen as ALAC, just MPEG-4 So it never even
hits the ALAC filetype. And it was trying to convert to AAC, which I
guess cant be done.
M
This is the weird thing, because that Copland file you posted played
fine under 7.6 for me on XP... wonder
toby10;537535 Wrote:
Throw some simple MP3's on the drive, see if those are read properly by
Touch server.
At least you will know if there is any HD incompatibility with your
Touch, while waiting for ALAC support. ;)
My HD is formatted in FAT32. I spent an entire day moving files around
Bad review. No comments on audio and they didn't even get the point abou
the embedded server.
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pippin;537572 Wrote:
Bad review. No comments on audio and they didn't even get the point abou
the embedded server.
What comments on the audio would you expect from Engadget? Sounds
better than the Duet? Yeah, right. Very very few purchasers of this
device would ever be able to tell a
Phil Leigh;537562 Wrote:
This is the weird thing, because that Copland file you posted played
fine under 7.6 for me on XP... wonder if there is a Mac issue with ALAC
detection...?
Im thinking so.. Im on a PowerPC G5, I wonder if the Intel Macs also
see ALAC as MPEG-4?
On a PC it sees an
Me too. I have paper towels wadded up under it to angle it upright.
pita.
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They compare a lot with the Duet interface (i.e., the Controller) being
so much better than the Touch's remote interface (using the IR), but of
course they fail to mention (or realize?) that the Controller also works
with the Touch.
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Is your drive USB powered or is there a wallwart or similar?
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Just got the touch today and I'm having problems with the USB Drive.
I have a 320g drive with 150g of FLAC files
The drive is recognized by the Touch, Squeezebox Server is started and
I get the message:
Discovering Files: Complete
...but the touch does not list any of my music.
What am I doing
ralphpnj;537251 Wrote:
What are the impressions of other Touch owners who have taken the time
to make a similar comparison?
My first impressions (of the analog outputs) were very good, too, at
first: I was wondering whether I would have to keep my dacs.
Had a more careful listen today. As a
metalbob;537565 Wrote:
Is it possible that the file structure is not reading correctly? It's
set up exactly like it should be for iTunes.
That's why I'm suggesting throwing a few MP3's into the iTunes folder.
;)
If Touch sees and plays those fine then it may just be the ALAC
Also makes ABX comparisons a breeze, comparing the players Analog vs
Digital outs.
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result! :)
UPS delivery note, take it that'll mean its atually in the country
then, and not sitting in Hollandshire waiting on a clearer sky?
Just asking as Im in a similar position.
ta.
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tcutting;537584 Wrote:
They compare a lot with the Duet interface (i.e., the Controller) being
so much better than the Touch's remote interface (using the IR), but of
course they fail to mention (or realize?) that the Controller also works
with the Touch.
This is a key issue many reviewers
It's probably still scanning. When complete the scanner results will
show three complete messages.
You should be able to play songs from your Music Folder menu while it
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m1abrams;537612 Wrote:
This is a key issue many reviewers and normal users have with the
Squeezebox products is that they do not see them as a System.
They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Only the
Controller (and I suppose the Touch's hinky embedded server) have any
use
metalbob;537625 Wrote:
It is all ALAC ripped from CDs. I can't test this until I get home
tonight, but like I said, the ALAC files worked fine off of a flash
drive in a random folder and the file structure on the HD worked fine
with iTunes. The HD is actually a RAID box that is powered
JJZolx;537626 Wrote:
They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Only the
Controller (and I suppose the Touch's hinky embedded server) have any
use with another Squeezebox. Not many people are willing to buy a $300
Controller to operate their $300 Touch when it's not needed and
JJZolx;537626 Wrote:
They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone. Only the
Controller (and I suppose the Touch's hinky embedded server) have any
use with another Squeezebox. Not many people are willing to buy a $300
Controller to operate their $300 Touch when it's not needed and
garym;537631 Wrote:
so the HD is actually a standalone USB harddrive, not a NAS (like a
readynas duo, etc.)
Yes.
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crimscrem;537347 Wrote:
May I ask why one would want to use both (or have both available)?
I thought about doing this so that I had the option of listening to
music in two channel without the subwoofer (using RCA). But just
curious why others would want to.
sorry i was away from this
metalbob;537625 Wrote:
It is all ALAC ripped from CDs. I can't test this until I get home
tonight, but like I said, the ALAC files worked fine off of a flash
drive in a random folder and the file structure on the HD worked fine
with iTunes. The HD is actually a RAID box that is powered
toby10;537622 Wrote:
It's probably still scanning. When complete the scanner results will
show three complete messages.
You should be able to play songs from your Music Folder menu while it
is scanning.
That's what I thought, but its not. The problem was that I was using a
Mac HFS+
You don't need to run the hinky server to use Touch as a controller for
other squeezeboxes it has a Choose Player menu just like the
controller.
But then of course you have the regular sbs running somewhere.
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Mnyb;537658 Wrote:
You don't need to run the hinky server to use Touch as a controller for
other squeezeboxes it has a Choose Player menu just like the
controller.
But then of course you have the regular sbs running somewhere.
You also can use the Radio to control other devices, not sure I
metalbob;537649 Wrote:
Yes.
Can you detail the brand and model when you get a chance?
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Hey, you're not alone.I've got a big library of 250 Gbytes, and had
numerous issues getting my new Squeezebox touch to work properly.
My main problem was that when scanning for files, after about 4 hours
of scanning the HDD, some time after starting to scan album art, the
squeezebox stops with
OK, let me see if I have this straight, with an external server playing
24/96 files works fine, is this using wired or wireless? Does it play
fine any compression level (-0 -5 -8 etc)?
The problem occurs when playing the 24/96 file off a USB drive
connected directly to the Touch, correct?
If
John, Do you have a Touch?
There are several threads on the same topic really discussing a lot of
these point. I think you have restated many of the issues well.
In a nutshell using an external server works best. Obviously, this is
not how the Touch was designed to be positioned, but for 24/96
An external *wired* server..
wifi + WPA PSK decryption uses some juice too..
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Classe'Primare and Dynadio speakers (including a pair of Contour 4 )
Touch and hold the back button on the screen.
- OR -
Swipe the screen from left to right.
(Swiping from right to left takes you to Now Playing.)
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Hold the top left hand back arrow.
MC
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Swipe your finger from left to right on the screen. Swiping from right
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usch;535674 Wrote:
But be aware that - according to the release notes - playlists on the
Touch are limited to 100 items anyway.
The Touch only allows playlists of 100 songs? That seems rather
limiting.
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bonze;537592 Wrote:
Ordered one from the Logitech site at the weekend (used my voucher)
Got a shipping message from UPS today and it said the package would
arrive Wednesday.
Voucher??? Can we get a discount?!!!
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Sorry I've been off this for a few days, trying to work on other things.
Anyway it looks like we seemed to have settled down to a few people have
problems with 24/96 at higher compression when using wiFi to an external
server. In some cases wired fixes these.
First off, does anybody have any
That's what I thought, but its not. The problem was that I was using a
Mac HFS+ formatted drive (I thought that the Touch supported this). I
Please file a bug. Unsupported filesystem should come up with an appropriate
error message and not even pretend to be scanning or something. We need to
m1abrams;537612 Wrote:
Personally I do not see where the marketing is failing
As long as Logitech can't even deliver to customers who desperately
want to buy Squeezebox products, they don't have to be too concerned
about marketing strategies. :rolleyes:
I think the problem is that all
OK, I see 'here'
(http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Squeezebox_Touch_as_a_Home_Music_Server#No_Configurable_Settings)
that when using the Touch as a home music server, The maximum playlist
length is capped at 100 tracks. I don't quite understand exactly what
this means.
I assume it's saying
Hugo_NAS;537694 Wrote:
Voucher??? Can we get a discount?!!!If we pre-ordered a previous Touch
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Did you try the Factory settings reset? As mentioned, I did that after
playing around and not getting that far with the initial scan. It's
performed flawlessly since.
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I'm one of the beta testers, so yes I have a Touch. I've run a lot of
24/96 on the Touch without a bit of problem, I'm trying to get a handle
on what configuration is causing what problems for people so we can try
and get to the bottom of what is happening and see if its possible to
work out a
JJZolx;537718 Wrote:
Not also. It's describing exactly the scenario you describe. It's a
cap when using the built-in server of the Touch. If you're using
another server running on a computer or NAS then the cap is whatever is
set on that server (which defaults to 500, but can be
Does the Yamaha have an analog pass-trough of some kind.
Most receivers digitize analog inputs anyway, and all does if you
involve some processing at all even the subwoofer output.
So it's often a moot point use digital in for that kind of machine.
They are obviusly made for digital sources,
Mnyb;537726 Wrote:
As soon as I involve my Touch or Radio ca 170 songs makes it totally
unresponsive 100% cpu until you won't care anymore the whole system
just dies.
I'm starting to get the sense that the Touch is a giant software bug
that also plays music.
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Is this a pre-sales question?
The Touch does not download files. You can play them from a local drive
or SD card or you can use the Touch with a remotely installed SBS to
play your files over the network.
DAC sound is too subjective. Since you can hook up with analog and
digital to your
Ehrm it just so happened that I for some reason had bulked up with a
100m spool of cat5 and an extra switch, pliers rj45's etc.
5 months in advance when I preordered my Touch. 24/96 is not the most
common requirement and trowing wifi in to it ?
I did not thought that it was really realistic to
JJZolx;537718 Wrote:
Yes, it's limited to 100 tracks when using the built-in server with a
USB drive or SD card.
Is there at least an option to remove played tracks automatically from
the current playlist so that you can keep adding albums as it plays, or
do you need to remove 15 tracks or so
JohnSwenson;537727 Wrote:
I'm one of the beta testers, so yes I have a Touch. I've run a lot of
24/96 on the Touch without a bit of problem, I'm trying to get a handle
on what configuration is causing what problems for people so we can try
and get to the bottom of what is happening and see
Since we have a few threads discussing exactly the same topic I'm
posting this as reference to a basic matrix that could be used for your
investigation.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=537048#post537048
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ziggyb63;537732 Wrote:
Just got my Touch, still finding out all it can do... in terms of
assigning a static Ip address, is the only way either disabling DHCP on
the router, and\or SSH-ing in and modifying the appropriate file? I like
to keep a tight rein on IP addresses and would have
JohnSwenson;537701 Wrote:
First off, does anybody have any problems with an form of 24/96 when
WIRED to an external server?
As posted earlier, I encountered stuttering when playing a 24/96 file
when the Touch was wired to an external server. Re-flaccing to -0 cured
this.
There was a
Peter314;537746 Wrote:
As posted earlier, I encountered stuttering when playing a 24/96 file
when the Touch was wired to an external server. Re-flaccing to -0 cured
this.
There was a thumb drive with jpeg files plugged into the USB port;
don't know if that has any bearing on the
Right now there are two ways to set the IP address, either ssh and
modify the files, OR try and connect to a machine without a DHCP server
and it will then ask if you want to setup a static IP.
The easiest way to do this is run a cable from the Touch to a laptop
ethernet port (NOT the switch or
John-
Do you know if this works with Radio too?
Maybe I'll try it tonight (I've been meaning to setup the Radio with
Static IP, but haven't spent any time making sure I understood which
file(s) to modify and what the correct syntax would be!)
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tcutting;537758 Wrote:
John-
Do you know if this works with Radio too?
Maybe I'll try it tonight (I've been meaning to setup the Radio with
Static IP, but haven't spent any time making sure I understood which
file(s) to modify and what the correct syntax would be!)
Sorry, no clue if this
JohnSwenson;537751 Wrote:
With something plugged into the USB the builtin server is running even
if you are connected to an external server. You CAN go to
settingsadvancedSqueezebox server and stop the server manually.
Unless you do that it will stay running as long as the drive is plugged
JohnSwenson;537701 Wrote:
First off, does anybody have any problems with an form of 24/96 when
WIRED to an external server?
Yes, I just purchased some music from HDTracks.com and I experience
stuttering - I am wired Gigabit ethernet to an external server - am am
going to try re-flac to 0
ziggyb63;537774 Wrote:
Yes, I just purchased some music from HDTracks.com and I experience
stuttering - I am wired Gigabit ethernet to an external server - am am
going to try re-flac to 0 to see if this cures the issue...
Yep, reflac-ing to 0 cured the issue - can provide the original and
JJZolx;537626 Wrote:
They're _not_ a system. The products each work alone.
Well, sure, for folks like you and, well, I think just you :-), who
blacklist mysqueezebox.com at your router...
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i was actually expecting that the touch device act as a controller like
the duet's, just with a larger screen. so, i'm as lightly puzzled as
the reviewer - or did i and the reviewer miss that? i guess i could
get a 30 foot coax cable and run it around the room and to the couch...
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kewe65;537784 Wrote:
i was actually expecting that the touch device act as a controller like
the duet's, just with a larger screen. so, i'm as lightly puzzled as
the reviewer - or did i and the reviewer miss that? i guess i could
get a 30 foot coax cable and run it around the room and to
kewe65;537784 Wrote:
i was actually expecting that the touch device act as a controller like
the duet's, just with a larger screen. so, i'm as lightly puzzled as
the reviewer - or did i and the reviewer miss that? i guess i could
get a 30 foot coax cable and run it around the room and to
Why why why after all the complaints with the Duet and static IPs would
Logitech even think of not providing a simple menu item for this on the
Touch? What is the big deal about including this simple feature that has
always existed on the SB3 and earlier models? What possible reason could
there
I believe this is the correct bug, which currently has 37 VOTES! (Sadly,
it's been around since March of 2008, and it's listed as NEW and
UNASSIGNED, with Target Milestone of Future!)
I suggest we continue to vote for it, and continue to raise the issue
on this forum - maybe it will get some
Bruce B;536429 Wrote:
Studios have been taking the DSD data stream from SACD's for years.
The issue of what is allowable cannot be determined by reference to the
number of studios which may or may not be engaged in similar behavior.
Just because many cars in the city are going 80 mph and not
Bruce B;536429 Wrote:
Studios have been taking the DSD data stream from SACD's for years.
The issue of what is allowable cannot be determined by reference to the
number of studios which may or may not be engaged in similar behavior.
Just because many cars in the city are going 80 mph and not
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