RE: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-14 Thread John Lilley
rom embedded activemq to artemis *** [Caution] This email is from an external source. Please use caution responding, opening attachments or clicking embedded links. *** > In particular, AMQ 5 let's you create several objects off the same Session > and use them concurrently... For what i

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread Michael Brennock
gt; > dependency is declared in the artemis-server [2] module so you should > get > > > it automatically if you're using Maven to manage your dependencies. > > > > > > > > > Justin > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > https://search.

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread Justin Bertram
nutils/commons-beanutils/1.9.4/jar > > [2] > > > > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/main/artemis-server/pom.xml#L158 > > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:26 PM Michael Brennock > > wrote: > > > > > John, I appreciate your

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread Michael Brennock
rtemis-server [2] module so you should get > it automatically if you're using Maven to manage your dependencies. > > > Justin > > [1] > > https://search.maven.org/artifact/commons-beanutils/commons-beanutils/1.9.4/jar > [2] > > https://github.com/apache/activemq-a

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread Justin Bertram
/1.9.4/jar [2] https://github.com/apache/activemq-artemis/blob/main/artemis-server/pom.xml#L158 On Wed, Jan 11, 2023 at 1:26 PM Michael Brennock wrote: > John, I appreciate your suggestions! I will try to put them to work today. > > Perhaps they can help me resolve a runtime error I'm get

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread Michael Brennock
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Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread Justin Bertram
ement Chief Architect, Redpoint Global Inc. > > 888 Worcester Street, Suite 200 Wellesley, MA 02482 > > *M: *+1 7209385761 <+1%207209385761> | john.lil...@redpointglobal.com > > -Original Message----- > From: Michael Brennock > Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 12:50 PM >

RE: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-11 Thread John Lilley
Michael, I am also not familiar with "activemq-broker-initializer", and do not see any documentation for it online. I suspect that this is a custom Spring factory bean that those who came before you created. Because Spring is limited to creating objects and setting properties, such a thing is

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-10 Thread Justin Bertram
is used > > > throughout the application, as well as the active-mq-initializer bean > > from > > > activeMQ. > > > To clarify, I inherited this project from other developers who are long > > > gone. I started working on this because I briefly worked on a messag

RE: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-10 Thread John Lilley
dpointglobal.com<mailto:john.lil...@redpointglobal.com> -Original Message- From: Michael Brennock mailto:mbrenn...@gmail.com>> Sent: Friday, January 6, 2023 12:50 PM To: users@activemq.apache.org<mailto:users@activemq.apache.org> Subject: Re: Looking for guidance on conversion

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-06 Thread Michael Brennock
developers who are long > > gone. I started working on this because I briefly worked on a message > queue > > system before. > > > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 8:41 PM Justin Bertram wrote: > > > > > EmbeddedActiveMQ is the class you want to use for embedding A

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-06 Thread Justin Bertram
fy, I inherited this project from other developers who are long > gone. I started working on this because I briefly worked on a message queue > system before. > > On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 8:41 PM Justin Bertram wrote: > > > EmbeddedActiveMQ is the class you want to use for embedding A

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-06 Thread Michael Brennock
briefly worked on a message queue system before. On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 8:41 PM Justin Bertram wrote: > EmbeddedActiveMQ is the class you want to use for embedding ActiveMQ > Artemis. The BrokerService is a class from ActiveMQ "Classic". It is used > in the ActiveMQ Artemis code-ba

Re: Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-05 Thread Justin Bertram
EmbeddedActiveMQ is the class you want to use for embedding ActiveMQ Artemis. The BrokerService is a class from ActiveMQ "Classic". It is used in the ActiveMQ Artemis code-base only for testing purposes. You won't use it at all when migrating. For additional help you'll have to ask mor

Looking for guidance on conversion from embedded activemq to artemis

2023-01-05 Thread Michael Brennock
Good afternoon, I've been tasked to migrate an existing application's message broker from ActiveMQ to Artemis. I was wondering if I could get some help troubleshooting my solution? We had some initial success replacing our embedded activeMQ broker with a standalone broker that runs outside

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-19 Thread Christopher Shannon
The veto is for proposing to make new JMS 2.0 methods delegate to 1.1 methods in the client as that behavior is just wrong and makes no sense. On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 9:55 AM Justin Bertram wrote: > Pardon my ignorance, but why not help TomEE move to ActiveMQ Artemis which > already su

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-19 Thread Justin Bertram
Pardon my ignorance, but why not help TomEE move to ActiveMQ Artemis which already supports JMS 2.0? If I recall correctly one of the reasons that the HornetQ donation was originally accepted was because it provided JMS 2.0 support. This would save work on changes to the 5.x code-base and speed

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
S >>> 2.0 >>>> support on the server side in this release. >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 11:29 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofre >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> He’s not PMC but committer, so he can help anyway ;) >>>>

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
committer, so he can help anyway ;) >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> JB >>>> >>>>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 17:23, COURTAULT Francois < >>>> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> Hello,

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Christopher Shannon
t;> > >> Regards > >> JB > >> > >>> Le 18 mai 2021 à 17:23, COURTAULT Francois < > >> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> a écrit : > >>> > >>> Hello, > >>> > >>> I don't think Romain is still th

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Francois < >> francois.courta...@thalesgroup.com> a écrit : >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I don't think Romain is still the PMC for TomEE. >>> >>> Best Regards. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Christopher Shannon
omain is still the PMC for TomEE. > > > > Best Regards. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre > > Sent: mardi 18 mai 2021 17:19 > > To: users@activemq.apache.org > > Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 >

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
nofre > Sent: mardi 18 mai 2021 17:19 > To: users@activemq.apache.org > Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ? > > Hi, > > I’m sure I can ask help from Romain about TomEE releases ;) > > Regards > JB > >> Le 18 mai 20

RE: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread COURTAULT Francois
Hello, I don't think Romain is still the PMC for TomEE. Best Regards. -Original Message- From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre Sent: mardi 18 mai 2021 17:19 To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ? Hi, I’m sure I can ask help from

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
TomEE > releases. I will push for that. > > Best Regards. > > -Original Message- > From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> > Sent: mardi 18 mai 2021 17:05 > To: users@activemq.apache.org <mailto:users@activemq.apache.org> > Subject: Re:

RE: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread COURTAULT Francois
@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ? Hi, The purpose of the RC is to cut an early release (kind of "cut SNAPSHOT") to allow users to test it before the first "official" release. What I can propose to you is: 1. I need couple of w

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi, The purpose of the RC is to cut an early release (kind of "cut SNAPSHOT") to allow users to test it before the first "official" release. What I can propose to you is: 1. I need couple of weeks to open the PRs and merge it (I’m on JDK11 now, identifying/fixing/disabling some tests) 2. When

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Simon Billingsley
Thanks for the details information. I am interested in the Log4J 2 upgrade. How long does the release take after the RC process normally? Best regards, Simon. On 18 May 2021, at 15:53, Jean-Baptiste Onofre mailto:j...@nanthrax.net>> wrote: Hi François, ActiveMQ 5.17.0 will support JMS 2.0.

RE: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread COURTAULT Francois
Subject: Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ? Hi François, ActiveMQ 5.17.0 will support JMS 2.0. Basically, what I’m planning for ActiveMQ 5.17.0: - JDK11 build - Spring 5 - Log4j2 - JMS 2.0 About date target, I’m working on JDK11 build now and the other PRs

Re: Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread Jean-Baptiste Onofre
Hi François, ActiveMQ 5.17.0 will support JMS 2.0. Basically, what I’m planning for ActiveMQ 5.17.0: - JDK11 build - Spring 5 - Log4j2 - JMS 2.0 About date target, I’m working on JDK11 build now and the other PRs will follow. I would like to submit a first 5.17 RC end of June. Regards JB >

Which activeMQ (not Artemis) version will be JMS 2.0 or 3.0 ?

2021-05-18 Thread COURTAULT Francois
Hello, The question to be answered is in the Subject. Best Regards.

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2020-01-12 Thread Clebert Suconic
Did you pre create the queues (which is a production scenario ) On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 10:53 PM Justin Bertram wrote: > Just to follow up on the mailing list... > > I've closed ARTEMIS-2173 with a long comment about my failed efforts to > reproduce lost messages. I don't believe there is any

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2020-01-11 Thread Justin Bertram
Just to follow up on the mailing list... I've closed ARTEMIS-2173 with a long comment about my failed efforts to reproduce lost messages. I don't believe there is any reliability issue here. Please follow-up on the Jira if you have additional questions and/or comments. Thanks! Justin On Mon,

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis

2018-12-08 Thread Tim Bain
The source of my statement was the ActiveMQ to Artemis migration guide ( https://activemq.apache.org/artemis/migration/index.html), which states the following: "The whole message journal is kept in memory and messages are dispatched directly from it. When we run out of memory, messages are

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis

2018-12-08 Thread michael.andre.pearce
Date: 08/12/2018 02:01 (GMT+00:00) To: ActiveMQ Users Subject: Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis The core of the Artemis codebase is the HornetQ code that was donated to the Apache foundation several years ago, so both codebases have had their cores tested in production environments, and they've both

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis

2018-12-07 Thread Tim Bain
The core of the Artemis codebase is the HornetQ code that was donated to the Apache foundation several years ago, so both codebases have had their cores tested in production environments, and they've both had ongoing development and bug fixes, which always opens up the possibility of introducing

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis

2018-12-07 Thread Francesco Nigro
AFAIK Artemis has been used with success in production in many cases: I just think that is a matter of what you search in a broker. Given that I'm biased toward performance I know what Artemis can deliver from this pov and I can say that there is no really match (with many other brokers) related

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis

2018-12-07 Thread trevdyck
>From what I understand Artemis is still quite new and has not been used in many production environments yet. ActiveMQ has been hardened for many years in production, so that may be something that factors into your decision. As for JMS2.0 you should look at whether 2.0 offers anything important

ActiveMQ or Artemis

2018-12-07 Thread COURTAULT Francois
Hello, I want to use a JMS broker. So I have 2 options: Active MQ or ActiveMQ Artemis. Reading some infos: * ActiveMQ & ActiveMQ Artemis support the same protocols: Openwire, Stomp, AMQP and MQTT but maybe not the same versions of those ones ? * Active MQ is JMS 1.1 whe

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-14 Thread veaceslavdoina
Hello, Added ActiveMQ test results using xa: https://github.com/veaceslavdoina/messages-brokers-testing/blob/master/RESULTS.md#test-activemq-5157-standalone-xa-20181114-090010 Slava. -- Sent from: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-User-f2341805.html

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-13 Thread jgenender
Hi Erik, Thank you for responding. Your tool certainly is useful from a client/application perspective. However to be clear, I wasn’t knocking your tool, but it was what was used to state that AMQ and Artemis (and Rabbit?) are losing/duplicating messages, then bugs were opened on this, which I

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-13 Thread erik-wramner
I'm the author of JmsTools. I don't have the time to deep-dive into this issue now, I just want to point out a few things. The tool simulates an application, so it ignores whatever is in ActiveMQ/Artemis. So will a real application. If a message is lost to the tool it is also lost to the real

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-12 Thread jgenender
I looked at the jmstool, and I am not convinced of any bugs in Artemis and AMQ. It uses an external logging mechanism to consider the state of messages, which is likely not what will be in ActiveMQ or Artemis, nor may it be truly representative of messages that have been passed (or not). What

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-12 Thread veaceslavdoina
Justin, thank you for advice! Just run a test using a single instance for the broker and producer/consumer. All communication was done using localhost. Got similar results:

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-12 Thread Justin Bertram
I strongly recommend you simplify your test for this. Whatever the issue is (assuming an issue actually exists), it will need to be replicated with a test in the Artemis test-suite (i.e. using one or more embedded brokers on a single machine). I'd start with peeling back infrastructure layers

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-12 Thread veaceslavdoina
The issue for Artemis was raised: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARTEMIS-2173 Slava. -- Sent from: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-User-f2341805.html

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-11-12 Thread veaceslavdoina
Hello, Project with description and all required data for tests reproducing were posted on Github: https://github.com/veaceslavdoina/messages-brokers-testing The issue was raised in Jira: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/AMQ-7096 Slava. -- Sent from:

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-30 Thread veaceslavdoina
Tim, I'm not a developer at the moment... This is why I tried to find the right tool for such tests. I have tried more than 10 from the publicly accessible. And also asked in the initial post which tool may be used for such type of tests, maybe someone know a good one. Currently, for the tests,

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread Tim Bain
Can you post the code for your producer? Is it sending persistent messages? Does it set a TTL on the messages when it sends them? Your ActiveMQ 5.x console screenshot shows that those queues were never used. What is the screenshot expected to show? Tim On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 9:26 AM

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread veaceslavdoina
jbertram, Almost all things were done using Ansible and shell script. 1. Ansible - Create AWS environment. 2. Ansible - Install AMQ/Artemis. 3. Shell - script for Jms Tools to produce the tests and generate the reports. 4. A line of code to restart systemd service. If you are interested, I may

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread veaceslavdoina
Reuploaded all 3 images because of overlaps in resulting filenames:

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread Justin Bertram
Is there a project or anything set up where users can easily reproduce the results you're seeing (e.g. using their own machine)? Justin On Mon, Oct 29, 2018 at 9:56 AM veaceslavdoina wrote: > Hello Tim, > > Yes, you are right, thank you for observation! > I've added one more line in the

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread veaceslavdoina
Hello Tim, Yes, you are right, thank you for observation! I've added one more line in the table - 'Messages remained'. During the test, each iteration uses its own queue name. The consumer is configured to consume all messages from the queue with a 30 seconds timeout. At the end of the test, I

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread Tim Bain
vs. still on the broker (which is not lost). Can you demonstrate that the problem here isn't actually with your test setup? Tim On Mon, Oct 29, 2018, 12:19 AM veaceslavdoina wrote: > Found a typo: > > Hardware: > | ActiveMQ/Artemis| m5.large | 2vCPU / 8GiB | > | Produce

Re: ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-29 Thread veaceslavdoina
Found a typo: Hardware: | ActiveMQ/Artemis| m5.large | 2vCPU / 8GiB | | Producer/Consumer | t3.medium | 2vCPU / 2GiB | Thank you! Slava. -- Sent from: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/ActiveMQ-User-f2341805.html

ActiveMQ and Artemis reliability - Messages lost

2018-10-28 Thread veaceslavdoina
: CentOS Linux release 7.5.1804 Java: Oracle JDK SE 8 Update 191 ActiveMQ: ActiveMQ 5.15.6 Artemis: ActiveMQ Artemis 2.6.3 Client: JmsTools [2] Configuration: ActiveMQ stand-alone: 1. activemq.xml: added 'individualDeadLetterStrategy' 2. ACTIVEMQ_OPTS=-Xms512M -Xmx7G 3. Started as systemd service

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis in a Docker Swarm?

2017-04-28 Thread Hadrian Zbarcea
We use ActiveMQ 5, not Artemis, with Docker with large numbers of brokers. Not swarm but Rancher and Cattle, and we are in process of moving, again not to swarm but to Kubernetes. It's running in Karaf (not Tomcat) using blueprints (not spring) and we have karaf ConfigAdmin bundles that make

Re: ActiveMQ or Artemis in a Docker Swarm?

2017-04-28 Thread Victor
I haven't done it specifically for docker swarm, but you could take a look and adapt my approach for Kubernetes: https://github.com/vromero/charts/tree/gh-pages/activemq-artemis 2017-04-27 6:21 GMT-07:00 Lachezar Dobrev <l.dob...@gmail.com>: > Hello all. > I'm just beginning

ActiveMQ or Artemis in a Docker Swarm?

2017-04-27 Thread Lachezar Dobrev
Hello all. I'm just beginning with Docker Swarm and am wondering the following: I have an application (.war for Tomcat, based on Springframework) that has an embedded Artemis to allow communication between Web Socket handlers. The application is like a multi-user chat, and uses a Topic to

Re: Activemq or Artemis lifecycle events

2017-01-13 Thread Justin Bertram
- Original Message - From: "preben" <preben.asmus...@gmail.com> To: users@activemq.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 3:26:05 PM Subject: Re: Activemq or Artemis lifecycle events Thanks Justin I'm not so familiar with Artemis, but what would be the equivalent of activemq maste

Re: Activemq or Artemis lifecycle events

2017-01-13 Thread preben
that becomes master ? /preben -- View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Activemq-or-Artemis-lifecycle-events-tp4721058p4721060.html Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Activemq or Artemis lifecycle events

2017-01-13 Thread Justin Bertram
broker's activation. Justin - Original Message - From: "preben" <preben.asmus...@gmail.com> To: users@activemq.apache.org Sent: Friday, January 13, 2017 2:43:21 PM Subject: Activemq or Artemis lifecycle events Hi I'm have a use case where i need simple messaging system embe

Activemq or Artemis lifecycle events

2017-01-13 Thread preben
on app. startup to start the processing engine on the instance that becomes the master. Best, Preben /Preben -- View this message in context: http://activemq.2283324.n4.nabble.com/Activemq-or-Artemis-lifecycle-events-tp4721058.html Sent from the ActiveMQ - User mailing list archive