RE: How do I set client variables timeout?
That's because a sessiontimeout is for session variables as the name implies not client variables. Client variables will expire as pe rthe settings in the coldfusion administrator. Snake -Original Message- From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2006 20:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: How do I set client variables timeout? My CFApplication tag looks like this: However, my client variables do not seem to timeout after 1 hour. Any ideas? Jon This electronic message transmission contains information from Collegiate Funding Services, LLC or its subsidiaries or affiliates that may be confidential or privileged. The information is intended to be for the use of only the individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please notify the sender by reply e-mail @cfsloans.com immediately and delete this e-mail and any attachments from your system and any copies you may have made, electronic or otherwise. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245092 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: XML storage of metadata in database fields
It is very very easy to make this secure. You certainly do not give open access to the database. You create XML templates that are like views, they allow limited access to the data, and can be restricted to select/update/whatever. The reason Dave prob said that is because you can allow the database to be queryied by simply sending an SQL statement on a URL or form post to the XML interface. But you do have to set it up to allow this in the first place. Of course with windows you can password protect resources too. It is only as insecure as you make it, just as your CFML apps will be insecure you do not password protect them and protect from SQL injection. Russ -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2006 17:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: XML storage of metadata in database fields > If you use IIS, you may want to look into the IIS SQL integration. > Using this you can provide direct HTTP XML services into your > database. I would strongly recommend against this, unless you're in a very strictly controlled environment, for security reasons. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245087 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CSS and list items
Ah I should have thought o fthat as it is the method I use for image links as well :-) -Original Message- From: Robert Redpath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2006 17:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CSS and list items don't replace the bullets with images, use a background image instead http://css.maxdesign.com.au/listamatic/vertical05.htm From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 6/29/2006 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CSS and list items OK I am making a tree menu using unordered lists, and using icons for the list items. E.g. something But the text and the image are not aligned (centered), the image is always higher than the text. How does one align them? I cannot seem to find any CSS attributes to do this. Russ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245086 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CSS and list items
OK I am making a tree menu using unordered lists, and using icons for the list items. E.g. something But the text and the image are not aligned (centered), the image is always higher than the text. How does one align them? I cannot seem to find any CSS attributes to do this. Russ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245078 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: XML storage of metadata in database fields
If you use IIS, you may want to look into the IIS SQL integration. Using this you can provide direct HTTP XML services into your database. russ -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2006 15:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: XML storage of metadata in database fields We do use SQL Server 2000 currently and we had heard that SQL Server 2005 was much better for working with XML. That did factor into our curent thoughts. George On 6/29/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW SQL Server now supports XML natively, so if you store XML in the > database, you can parse it a lot easier. > > Russ > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245074 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: XML storage of metadata in database fields
BTW SQL Server now supports XML natively, so if you store XML in the database, you can parse it a lot easier. Russ -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 June 2006 13:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: XML storage of metadata in database fields Katz, Dov B \(IT\) wrote: > There are several approaches to solving this type of problem, imho, > and each one has costs and benefits, and I've given each of them a > "report card" (A being best, F being worst): > > 1) Xml into a field (as originally speculated) > Benefits: flexible design, structured data once retreived > Costs: useless for searching Unless your database supports functional indexes. > data not typed, (all strings) Unless your database supports schema validation. > storage bloat due to markup Not that bad if the database supports inline compression. Columns have overhead too. Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:245071 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
vspider
Someone asked me about vspider and verity today, but I have never used it. This obviously is not installed by default with CFMX7, so is it a free download or? I have read up a bit on it, Can vspider collections be setup and managed totally via CFML as with normal verity collections, or doe sanything manual need to be done by the cfadmin? Russ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:244877 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
OK just to give the rest of you some peace, I'm going to reply to the dildo off-list. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 June 2006 06:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... I dont think so, i just gotta be the bigger man and ignore him.. (since he cant take it off list) ~Dave the disruptor~ From: "Denny Valliant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2006 1:13 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... On 6/11/06, dave wrote: > > just cause ur a fat biker with bad tattoos and a ugly mohawk dont make > it a sure thing... of course i'd walk out right over the top of u > laying on floor :-) > > ~Dave the disruptor~ I was kind of picturing you guys walking out together, waddling like cowboys who been riding on the trail for many hours... sorta bow-legged... Not making eye contact... Yeah, something like that sprung to mind. ;-) I could'na resist. Sorry! :D ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243303 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: WYSIWYG Editor
Sheesh, the people who came up with that are obviously lazy typists. -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 13:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor *Internationalization* is often abbreviated as *I18N* (or *i18n* or *I18n*) where the number 18 refers to the number of letters omitted [1] HTH [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I18N On 12/06/06, Tim Laureska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Uuhh.. just curious, what are i18n requirements ? > > > > > -Original Message- > From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:56 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: WYSIWYG Editor > > Thanks, I'll keep that in mind if we run into i18n requirements, which > is bound to happen eventually. > > On 6/12/06, Paul Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > James Holmes wrote: > > > FWIW, I also use TinyMCE and I've found no reason to swap to FCK. > > > > fck's i18n support is better. > > -- > CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: > http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243182 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
LOL, oh yes I can just imagine it, attack of drippy Dave... Don't move or I will shoot you with my disruptor. Or Dave the Mage uses his sword of destiny, 50 hit points, your dead. And then back in the real world.. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 June 2006 04:18 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... just cause ur a fat biker with bad tattoos and a ugly mohawk dont make it a sure thing... of course i'd walk out right over the top of u laying on floor :-) ~Dave the disruptor~ ---- From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 5:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... You really think he would walk out afterwards :-) -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2006 19:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... i think u 2 should get a room - ROFL... On 11/06/06, dave wrote: > > stfu poser boy > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > > ---- > From: "Snake" > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... > > Oh god don't, you will start "you know who" off again. > > Snake > > -- Nick Tong web: http://talkwebsolutions.co.uk blog: http://succor.co.uk short urls: http://wapurl.co.uk linkedin: http://linkedin.com/pub/0/a70/502 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243174 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
You really think he would walk out afterwards :-) -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2006 19:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... i think u 2 should get a room - ROFL... On 11/06/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > stfu poser boy > > ~Dave the disruptor~ > > ---- > From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:49 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... > > Oh god don't, you will start "you know who" off again. > > Snake > > -- Nick Tong web: http://talkwebsolutions.co.uk blog: http://succor.co.uk short urls: http://wapurl.co.uk linkedin:http://linkedin.com/pub/0/a70/502 ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:243162 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
Dave, being as I am a big tattooed biker with a mohawk , and nearly 40, I don't think the words "poser" or "boy" really apply. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 June 2006 18:53 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... stfu poser boy ~Dave the disruptor~ ---- From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 1:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... Oh god don't, you will start "you know who" off again. Snake -Original Message- From: Phillip Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2006 22:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... "You must be a Mac person" Hmmm.. Oddly enough there is not a title available for "OpenBSD for Dummies". Interesting. Regards, Phillip B. Holmes http://phillipholmes.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... On 6/9/06, dave wrote: > > i just starting getting that error as well > > ~Dave the disruptor~ Dave, if you really want to disrupt things, you'll get in the mix, like in SLCpunk. ;-) Eric, I'm sorry to hear of your frustrations with Eclipse. I'm really good at problem solving, so I forget that it's not everyone's forte. I must not have beamed enough good vibes towards your install. :-( Three strikes, Eclipse is out, man! And I'm sure it's eclipse's fault, as 1s of people can definitely be wrong, me being one of them. (eg I got it going somehow, first try (depending on what you call a "try"). You must be a Mac person. *giggles*. Eclipse doesn't claim to be dummy proof! If you ask me, it doesn't speak well for you, not the other way around. It's not rocket science. Everything has a learning curve, but you'll find that it IS a curve, and MAN the view from this semi-plateau is AMAZING! For what I do. If you do the stuff DW is good at, you'll be happier with DW, no doubt. I still like it for orphan link checking and stuff like that. Been a while since I've used it, but it's nice to know it's there. King of the wysiwyg, if'n ya ask me... ** Eclipse 3.2 is at the RC7 stage, so it's not the stable download that is the default link from the homepage. You ned to click on "other versions" link (or some wording like that) to get the latest release candidate. It is a down side to things that are actively developed, (if you want to call it a down side) and collaborative... Everyone sorta has to gear up right before release if we want to hit the ground running when the release IS official. Thus, the eclipse you want is not the current version, but the faster, better, version, soon to be the stable, official release. It will say "Eclipse 3.2" somewhere, that's how you'll know you got the right one. RC7 is latest, and I'm about to download it and set it up, so I'll document it for you, and anyone else who's interested. FWIW, I've been using 3.2 since milestone 4, and haven't had any troubles with it (besides it's faster than 3.1, dang it ;) Eclipse, and communal development in general, is such a foreign idea, it takes a while to grasp, for some people. The absolute power that is rendered, and benefits to all, are amazing, and I hope you can get up to speed sometime, when projects aren't pressing on you, perhaps. It's a constant thing tho, so you'd need to start putting aside a chunk of time each day or week, to keep up to speed on what new and cool stuff is available. (at least click that "search for updates" link now and again ;) IF you want to get active in what's going on, or whatever. But take your time! you should enjoy what you're doing, and if you're not enjoying futzing with Eclipse, or tools besides ones you are familiar with, don't do it. Lots of work from thousands of regular joes have gone into eclipse (besides the IBM heads), so writing it off as "fix this crap", when it is user error to some extent, is just plain not nice. (and there are PLENTY of horrible bugs in DW, mister "I'll use something that ""works""" ;) Sorry so defensive, I hope I at least put some useful info in here, for those who are really willing to give something different a shot. Guess a simple link to the download page may have sufficed, but you can lead a horse to eclipse... Hehehe. Ok, I'm silly, sorry so bitchy, Eric. We're all good now. Peace guys! (till a "how to", I guess ;) :Denny > From: "
RE: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues...
Oh god don't, you will start "you know who" off again. Snake -Original Message- From: Phillip Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2006 22:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: [SPAM : 5.0] RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... "You must be a Mac person" Hmmm.. Oddly enough there is not a title available for "OpenBSD for Dummies". Interesting. Regards, Phillip B. Holmes http://phillipholmes.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... On 6/9/06, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > i just starting getting that error as well > > ~Dave the disruptor~ Dave, if you really want to disrupt things, you'll get in the mix, like in SLCpunk. ;-) Eric, I'm sorry to hear of your frustrations with Eclipse. I'm really good at problem solving, so I forget that it's not everyone's forte. I must not have beamed enough good vibes towards your install. :-( Three strikes, Eclipse is out, man! And I'm sure it's eclipse's fault, as 1s of people can definitely be wrong, me being one of them. (eg I got it going somehow, first try (depending on what you call a "try"). You must be a Mac person. *giggles*. Eclipse doesn't claim to be dummy proof! If you ask me, it doesn't speak well for you, not the other way around. It's not rocket science. Everything has a learning curve, but you'll find that it IS a curve, and MAN the view from this semi-plateau is AMAZING! ..For what I do. If you do the stuff DW is good at, you'll be happier with DW, no doubt. I still like it for orphan link checking and stuff like that. Been a while since I've used it, but it's nice to know it's there. King of the wysiwyg, if'n ya ask me... ** Eclipse 3.2 is at the RC7 stage, so it's not the stable download that is the default link from the homepage. You ned to click on "other versions" link (or some wording like that) to get the latest release candidate. It is a down side to things that are actively developed, (if you want to call it a down side) and collaborative... Everyone sorta has to gear up right before release if we want to hit the ground running when the release IS official. Thus, the eclipse you want is not the current version, but the faster, better, version, soon to be the stable, official release. It will say "Eclipse 3.2" somewhere, that's how you'll know you got the right one. RC7 is latest, and I'm about to download it and set it up, so I'll document it for you, and anyone else who's interested. FWIW, I've been using 3.2 since milestone 4, and haven't had any troubles with it (besides it's faster than 3.1, dang it ;) Eclipse, and communal development in general, is such a foreign idea, it takes a while to grasp, for some people. The absolute power that is rendered, and benefits to all, are amazing, and I hope you can get up to speed sometime, when projects aren't pressing on you, perhaps. It's a constant thing tho, so you'd need to start putting aside a chunk of time each day or week, to keep up to speed on what new and cool stuff is available. (at least click that "search for updates" link now and again ;) IF you want to get active in what's going on, or whatever. But take your time! you should enjoy what you're doing, and if you're not enjoying futzing with Eclipse, or tools besides ones you are familiar with, don't do it. Lots of work from thousands of regular joes have gone into eclipse (besides the IBM heads), so writing it off as "fix this crap", when it is user error to some extent, is just plain not nice. (and there are PLENTY of horrible bugs in DW, mister "I'll use something that ""works""" ;) Sorry so defensive, I hope I at least put some useful info in here, for those who are really willing to give something different a shot. Guess a simple link to the download page may have sufficed, but you can lead a horse to eclipse... Hehehe. Ok, I'm silly, sorry so bitchy, Eric. We're all good now. Peace guys! (till a "how to", I guess ;) :Denny > From: "Eric Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 12:42 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Speaking of cfeclipse/eclipse issues... > > Problem 1: I have 3.1 Where do I get 3.2...I just dl'd this from the > eclipse.org site. > > Problem 2: Now I am getting an error where the pages won't > display...Unable to create this part due to an internal error. Reason > for the failure: > org.eclipse.jface.text.Document > > This does not speak well for eclipse. Looks like
RE: CF Studio 5
Whatever Dave, you have a dirty mouth and your rude to everyone, so I couldn't care less what you think of windows or what OS you use. Perhaps your time would be better spent taking classes on "how to get on with other humans" rather than preaching about OSX. snake -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 23:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 no one said u didnt, my god the point was it doesnt run on anything but winblows and other people choose to use other os's, lets see how much you like windows when/if vista comes out and you cant even run hs anymore or half your other tools and you are still left with a half ass imitaion of osx.. ~Dave the disruptor~ ---- From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 As I said, I have been using cfeclipse for 2 months now, so that hardly translate to "I am never going to change". Changing your IDE is one thing, but you can't expect everyone to change their OS as well, like most people I have years of time and money invested in windows and the associated software, so no I'm going to be changing that any time soon. I like windows. Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 19:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound exactly like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs? I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product. So maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X and CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te. but I am still working on a product for the community that uses Windows. Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best to show to people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like it after the initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to change, even if CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you coffee and gives you a back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time, that would be better spend on making it a better product for people that use it. At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it isnt like I am selling the dammed thing. MD On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:43, Snake wrote: > There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am > concerned. > > -Original Message- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 > > some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a > better os as well > > ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242382 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
Or Pussy OS's like OSX :-) -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 June 2006 08:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 I guess its the same reason people still use old programs like hs, eh. ~Dave the disruptor~ Touché Mr. Pussycat? Hehehe Eric ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242381 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
As I said, I have been using cfeclipse for 2 months now, so that hardly translate to "I am never going to change". Changing your IDE is one thing, but you can't expect everyone to change their OS as well, like most people I have years of time and money invested in windows and the associated software, so no I'm going to be changing that any time soon. I like windows. Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 19:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 Why does some of the arguments about HomeS**te Vs CFEclipse sound exactly like OS X Vs Windows or Linux vs Windows or Vi vs Emacs? I like CFEclipse so much I actually started making it a better product. So maybe I have a vested interest in being the minority, yes I use OS X and CFEclipse, sorry, I dont use Windows and HomeS**te. but I am still working on a product for the community that uses Windows. Stop the madness and mud slinging. I shall try to do my best to show to people why CFEclipse is different and why you might like it after the initial trial of learning it, but if you arent going to change, even if CFEclipse writes the code for you whilst it makes you coffee and gives you a back-rub, I would see this as a waste of time, that would be better spend on making it a better product for people that use it. At the end of the day, I get no benefit on "more" people using it, it isnt like I am selling the dammed thing. MD On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:43, Snake wrote: > There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am > concerned. > > -Original Message- > From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 > > some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a > better os as well > > ~Dave the disruptor~ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242349 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
That's more like it Mark, I may yet be converted :-) I will have a look at the dictionary's next week and see if I can't customise CFE to not annoy me :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 19:35 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 The next version of CFE has toolbars http://www.markdrew.co.uk/blog/index.cfm/2005/12/19/More-on-the-new- CFEclipse-Toolbars You can add whatever tags you want by using snippets. CFE is a CF editor by trade but we do provide html syntax too. You can edit the dictionary you are in , in the next version of CFE you have a choice of which dictionary you use, we have tried to keep the dictionary as accurate as possible with regards to which tags close and which dont, and yes if you want to change it you can edit whichever is your default dictionary (Cfmx7, 6 , 5 or whatever) and change whether they close or not. You have been enlightened? MD On 4 Jun 2006, at 13:33, Snake wrote: > I also miss the HomeSite customizable toolbar too. Not just for the > default buttons (the table wizard was very handy), but the ability to > add my own and create VTML tag editor for my own tags and what not. > > CFE has very few CFML/HTML options on the toolbar. > > But perhaps you could also enlighten me as to some tags are auto > completed and some are not, is this editable somewhere? > > > > Russ > > > -Original Message- > From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 June 2006 00:58 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 > > Those are two features that are rather requested and I have already > added them (not sure if they are in the stable yet but definately will > be in the next release) > > If you have a Dictionary View you can double click and enter functions > and tags. Also I have (in the nightly) a version of right clicking on > a tag and being able to edit it. its pretty neat. > > So I am trying to make the product work well as requested by most > people. > > MD > > On 4 Jun 2006, at 00:48, Snake wrote: > >> I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss >> Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick >> reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help. >> CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML >> editing. >> >> russ >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32 >> To: CF-Talk >> Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 >> >> Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as >> I mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool >> because its the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing >> me the benefits, I'd be more than happy to use CFE. >> >> Rey... >> >> Mark Drew wrote: >>> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the >>> size of the site, you just wont. >>> >>> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to >>> another, I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing >>> some video's of using CFEclipse) >>> >>> MD >>> >>> >>> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> you're serious about development and want integration with >>>>> subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you. >>>> >>>> Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't >>>> serious about development. ;) >>>> >>>> Rey... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242332 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help!
-Original Message- From: cf coder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 15:24 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Session Variables lost when moving from http to https - Please help! Is there a ColdFusion I can use on the https site to return the server settings i.e webserver version, application name, etc etc. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
There is no better OS than the one I am using as far as I am concerned. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 01:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 some people do more than cfm editing and some ppl choose to use a better os as well ~Dave the disruptor~ From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help. CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML editing. russ -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool because its the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the benefits, I'd be more than happy to use CFE. Rey... Mark Drew wrote: > I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the > size of the site, you just wont. > > Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to another, > I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some > video's of using CFEclipse) > > MD > > > On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote: > > >>>you're serious about development and want integration with >>>subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you. >> >>Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't >>serious about development. ;) >> >>Rey... >> >> >> > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242303 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
I don't think you can turn a mohawk into a mullet. -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 01:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 You'd also get a mullett if they'd do it 4 ya ;) ~Dave the disruptor~ ---- From: "Snake" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2006 7:52 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 I have to say, I would buy HS if they continued releasing it. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 dave wrote: > And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will > bring it back for the 13 people who want it. I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe ever restarting development on a non-money making product. Rey... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242302 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
I have to disagree with that. Most developers (cf or otherwise) do not use every part of the language every day, so therefore you do not know all the functions, methods, attributes off the top of your head (unless your just a total nerd), this is why editors like homesite are handy, so you do not have to pull your manual/book out or search livedocs every time you forgot something. The difference between using notepad or a good editor like homesite can the difference between having adaquate code or great code because you had the right tool for the job. That's like saying if you can't build a house with no mechnical machinary your not a real builder. Russ -Original Message- From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 01:03 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF Studio 5 Homesite was originally designed for non-cf developers. It was also used by non-developers because it has a great interface. HS+ was a bit of an appeasement to the CF developers MM lied to when they trashed cf studio after assuring us they wouldn't. As far as open source goes, don't assume that I don't see the trend. I just don't like or agree that it is better. Why is it that if I am not doing my code in some bloated text editor that I am not really coding? I would say the opposite is true. If you can't do it in notepad, then you don't know how to code. You shouldn't rely on crutches. I make a lot of use out of the Jakarta Apache projects open source code. Like I said...most of the open source stuff is inconsistent...most does not mean all... If open source has won out, why does MS and non-open source Unix have the greater market share? In my 8 years of cf development, I have only run into 2 shops that use any open source software in their production environment. That doesn't sound like a win for open source to me. MMMPMMA, Eric -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, 03 June 2006 16:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 On 6/3/06, Eric Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Its not an attitude...just an opinion. I am also not a big fan of > open source products in general. I have recommended cfeclipse to > people as it is not a bad product over all...I just don't like it. I > couldn't get...or at least figure out how to get, the cf part to work > right. I found the interface to be very non-intuitive and hard to > use. It does have potential. > I do like the fact that I can use it for multiple platforms...that is > pretty cool, though right now, I am not doing anything but cf, so that > does kill some of the cool factor for that. Packaged installs would > be good. I think a lot of us just don't like the whole Linux/open > source way of doing things when software is concerned. I find most > gnu licensed products are more trouble that they are worth to install > and get running(mysql being an exception). I find a lack of > consistency since you have multiple independent programmers working on > it. The concept is great, but like many things, they look better on > paper. Don't take it personally ;-) You do have a strong following > that really like cfeclipse. > > Blessings, > Eric Hi Eric, blessed be! This is one of those age old arguments, Open vs Closed, and there are tons of docs about development cycles and such, good reads. They even have names for the types of cycles and whatnot. I don't think your arguments hold water now adays tho. If they ever did. "Open" is so open, you'll find all types. By definition. Some are good, some not so good, but it's been a ton of fun watching the evolution. If you can't read the trends, you may still be thinking along old- school lines of thought. Old, biased lines of thought. For years I've been using "open" solutions. Just look at the Apache Group for more examples of stuff that "just works", like MySQL. Lots of examples. Any large project will have multiple contributor's, or programmers, no matter if it's open or closed. I don't see "closed" as having some intrinsic nature of consistency. That's a MS meme; that for some reason, people seem to buy into, even tho they USE MS products, and could obviously see the fallacy of that idea. OpenSource is the way of the future, and if you can't tell that by what's been going on for the last bit, you haven't been paying attention. I'm not saying everything will be free, but rather, that the people who believed, for some time, in the ultimate power of "open" vs. "closed", have been borne out, whereas, the folks who touted "closed is better", haven't. If you're really "doing cf", you should LOVE the awesome power of eclipse over HS+ or studio. If you're just note-padding it, for all intents and purposes, you aren't really coding. Heh, that's a statement. Seriously though, UML and all this nifty crap, made by coders, for coders, beats the pants off of some corporate, "name it something friendly, like 'HOMEsite'" type method
RE: CF Studio 5
I also miss the HomeSite customizable toolbar too. Not just for the default buttons (the table wizard was very handy), but the ability to add my own and create VTML tag editor for my own tags and what not. CFE has very few CFML/HTML options on the toolbar. But perhaps you could also enlighten me as to some tags are auto completed and some are not, is this editable somewhere? Russ -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 00:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 Those are two features that are rather requested and I have already added them (not sure if they are in the stable yet but definately will be in the next release) If you have a Dictionary View you can double click and enter functions and tags. Also I have (in the nightly) a version of right clicking on a tag and being able to edit it. its pretty neat. So I am trying to make the product work well as requested by most people. MD On 4 Jun 2006, at 00:48, Snake wrote: > I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss > Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick > reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help. > CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML > editing. > > russ > > -Original Message- > From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 > > Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as I > mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool > because its > the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the > benefits, > I'd be more than happy to use CFE. > > Rey... > > Mark Drew wrote: >> I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the >> size of the site, you just wont. >> >> Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to another, >> I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some >> video's of using CFEclipse) >> >> MD >> >> >> On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote: >> >> >>>> you're serious about development and want integration with >>>> subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you. >>> >>> Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't >>> serious about development. ;) >>> >>> Rey... >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242300 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
I have to say, I would buy HS if they continued releasing it. -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 dave wrote: > And why would Adobe add it? It's done, gone and I doubt they will bring it back for the 13 people who want it. I would venture to say that there are quite a bit more than 13 people that use it. I know of plenty that still love it. But I don't see Adobe ever restarting development on a non-money making product. Rey... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242257 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Studio 5
I have been using CFE for nearly 2 months now, and I still miss Homesite. In fact I keep it open at the same time for the quick reference to tag editor, function/tag insert and quick help. CFE has a way to go before it beats CFStudio/homesite for CFML editing. russ -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 00:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF Studio 5 Definitely do the videos. I'm fairly open to new ideas but again, as I mentioned in an earlier post, I don't just jump to the next tool because its the "in" thing. If you're videos do a good job of showing me the benefits, I'd be more than happy to use CFE. Rey... Mark Drew wrote: > I think if you dont have the time to learn a new tool, no matter the > size of the site, you just wont. > > Nothing anyone can say will help you switch from one tool to another, > I would have to show you (ahh, yes people, I will be doing some > video's of using CFEclipse) > > MD > > > On 2 Jun 2006, at 20:55, Rey Bango wrote: > > >>>you're serious about development and want integration with >>>subversion, then CFEclipse is the best editor for you. >> >>Sorry, I didn't realize that people developing small sites weren't >>serious about development. ;) >> >>Rey... >> >> >> > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242256 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Generic database management tool
If your looking for a totally web based SQL Server database manager, try www.mylittletools.com -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 June 2006 00:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Generic database management tool On 6/3/06, Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>Is this a web-based tool? > > Sure: 100% Does it run on linux based CF instances? . > I've tried CFEclipse, but CFStudio eclipses it ;-) Heh. That's totally alright, what's good for the goose don't mean it's good for the gander. Although another nifty feature, is that CFE supports various version of CF, as well as BlueDragon. Theoretically you could have one project in CF 5 and another in 7 and have the editor know what is available in each project. Good eat'n, I tell ya what. Actually, when it was first released by Ipswitch Inc. it was Homesite. > Then Allaire bought the product. add the CF stuff in it, and called it > CF Studio. Interesting backstory. I appreciate the name better now. And more becomes clear about IDEs and CF. I'll try to prepare some dynamic demo, note that the system is in > English, it is just that > if I write the docs and the online help in English myself, it will be > kind of ... well, couci couça... ;-) What does couci couça mean again? It tickles some memory... your English seems fine to me... :D ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:242254 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Can I use CF 6.1 and CF 7 on the same machine?
Yes you can. By default CFMX7 installs to a different path c:\cfusionmx7\ so will not overwrite your CFMX6 installation. So just install it as normal, but just install it in standlone mode (i.e. using the internal jrun web server) so that your web server configuration is not altered. Then once installed you can enable CFMX7 on specific sites either manually or use the web server config tool. Russ -Original Message- From: Nathan Drury [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 May 2006 05:30 To: CF-Talk Subject: Can I use CF 6.1 and CF 7 on the same machine? Hi I'm not sure where this should be posted, so I'm also posting it under CF-Server too. We have one machine that is used for our intranet and our internal web apps. Our intranet runs on a CMS that requires CF 6.1 but is not compatible with CF 7, so the machine only has 6.1 installed We have a license for CF 7 that can be used on this machine and I want to start building a Flex 2 app so I need CF 7. Is it possible to run both CF 6.1 and CF 7 on the same machine? I'm open to all suggestions, including server virtualisation / virtualization. Thanks Nathan ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241704 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Application.cfc racing
As OnApplicationstart only executes once at the start of an application this does means you couldn't use it to reset your application variables, which is a pain IMHO. russ -Original Message- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 May 2006 08:25 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Application.cfc racing Always a good idea to test the docs, especially when you have an article on it in the upcoming print edition of the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. > From the LiveDocs > (http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/0696.htm) > > Use this method for application initialization code; for example, use > it to set Application scope variables, to determine whether a required > data source or other resource is available, or to log the application > start. You do not have to lock the Application scope if you set > Application variables in this method, and you can reference > Application scope variables as you normally do; for example, as > Application.myVariable. > > Same goes for the session according to the docs. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241200 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Server Backup Solutions
I have heard a lot of people rave about backup for workgroups. Snake ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241179 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MaxHeapSize + MaxPermSize
Well I spose I should of added, on a non enterprise license then :-) Multiple instances is the method that I have used thus far. Snake -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 May 2006 20:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: MaxHeapSize + MaxPermSize > > I have to wonder what one does if they have a CF server that > > requires more than 1.8gb RAM for the JVM, > > Multiple Instances and clustering. If you're using multiple instances, each has its own JVM and memory space. One of the reasons for using multiple instances is to bypass the JVM memory limitations of a single instance. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241178 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MaxHeapSize + MaxPermSize
I have to wonder what one does if they have a CF server that requires more than 1.8gb RAM for the JVM, say u have some big heavy site sthat do a lot of caching of big files/queries? -Original Message- From: Dante Orlando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 May 2006 19:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MaxHeapSize + MaxPermSize Thanks for all of your replies. First of all, I was really just looking for the "whys" rather than any particular recommendation on what values to set these params to. As far as the permanent generation being part of the heap, I have been able to verify that the permenent generation (i.e. -XX:PermSize and -XX:MaxPermSize) is *separate* from the object heap (i.e. -Xms and -Xmx). See the following diagram from Sun: http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc1.4.2/fig4.gif which was taken from http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/gc1.4.2/ .also see Moazam Raja's explanation in the following blog entry: http://www.unixville.com/~moazam/stories/2004/05/17/maxpermsizeAndHowItRelat esToTheOverallHeap.html Rob: I too have heard the explanation about the object heap needing to occupy a contiguous block of memory, and that Windows is only able to meet that requirement up to 2GB. Incidently, this is also why the /3GB flag is useless on Windows at least as far as a jvm process is concerned. The thing is that even with these restrictions I thought you could still get a jvm process that was closer to 2GB, as opposed to the 1.6GB I'm seeing in my tests. There is even a ColdFusion TechNote that suggests that the maximum value should be more like 1.8GB ( http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19359). It turns out that, if you dig a little deeper, the maximum contiguous memory block you can get in Windows is actually a bit less than 2GB because of the way some of the system DLLs are loaded, and the fact that Windows implements two "standard" 64KB holes in the virtual address space, one at the bottom, and another near the 2GB boundary. I guess I'm beginning to answer my own question... Anybody else have any additional thoughts on the matter? thx, -dante ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241157 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Possible in SQL?
I would have thought distinct would do what you want, are you sure you use dit correctly. Select distinct com1, gender, fname, lname FROM mytable WHERE gender = 'M' Group by com1, gender, fname, lname - Snake -Original Message- From: Jeremy Bunton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 May 2006 13:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Possible in SQL? Hello, I have a table that looks something like this. Com1 genderfname lname 001 M Matt Smith 001 M Bill Wright 005 FKara Brown 005 M Mike White What I need to do is pull a record from each "com1" group that meets my where criteria. Say from above I want all the males. I would want the answer to be 001 M Matt Smith 005 M Mike White Or 001 M Bill Wright 005 M Mike White I don't care which record I just want ONE per com1 id meeting the criteria. I tried using distinct but that will not work as you have to list all the field names out and then group but the none distinct ones which gives me all the com1's meeting the where criteria. Any idea's? Jeremy ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:241123 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: SQL Server Express on CF Box?
It has quite a hefty memory requirement, I installe dit on a machine with 512mb and it crippled it, I had to uninstall it again b4 the machine worked properly. russ -Original Message- From: Claremont, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2006 17:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: SQL Server Express on CF Box? I am wondering if people have been successful at installing SQL Server Express on their CF 7.1 servers. I have not attempted it yet, but figured it would be prudent if I asked the question first. My test server is abysmally slow and lacking in RAM and processor speed, thus I cannot use that as a guinea pig for testing. I cannot afford to have downtime on the production server, so I would like to do this right the first time. The NET 2.0 framework is required for installation, as well as XP SP2. Does anyone see any issues that raise a red flag before I do the unthinkable of installing on the production server? TIA, Tim ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please delete it from your system. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. Thank You, Viahealth ** ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240791 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OOD/Design Patterns and ColdFusion.
There is also a book "java for coldfusion developers" that you may find useful. I did buy it, but it is still sitting on my shelf :-) -Original Message- From: Matt Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 May 2006 19:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OOD/Design Patterns and ColdFusion. You're welcome Andy. I was where you are about 3-4 months ago, just trying to get a grip on it all. I wrote that sample code a couple of weeks ago after seeing these same type of questions pop up here and on some other email lists. I'm working on a bit of a guide that shows you how I created those CFCs and what all is going on with them. Of course as I write it I think of more and more to explain. But hopefully soon I'll be able to post some of it. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240686 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Dumb Application.cfc ?
Request scope variable can be set anywhere and are available to ALL templates, but variables scope is only available in the template that created it, and will die once the page has completed compiling. In your application.cfc you can use onRequeststart to do what you want. Russ -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 May 2006 21:10 To: CF-Talk Subject: Dumb Application.cfc ? I'm working on someone else's app that uses application.cfm. They've got some variables set in VARIABLES scope. Where would I set these in Application.cfc? I tried onRequestStart but that doesn't work. Can you only set a REQUEST scope variable in onRequestStart? Then change my references to that variable in the code by adding REQUEST. to it? Is there some way I can set a regular variables scope variable in app.cfc, so it'll be available in the same way app.cfm did it? Thanks, Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240508 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Shared host with ISAPI Rewrite
I know we have installed it for at least 1 customer in the past. www.cfmxhosting.co.uk -Original Message- From: Marcus Whitworth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 May 2006 00:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: Shared host with ISAPI Rewrite Hi, Does anyone know of a quality shared CF host that either currently offers, or would allow the installation and use of, the ISAPI Rewrite extension? (www.isapirewrite.com). I would really like to use this feature for a number of small sites i'm planning out, but can't seem to find a host that will allow it to be installed. thanks, Marcus. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240497 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: BlogCFC v5 Released
Tsk, I dunno, you guys obviously never watched headbeangers ball on MTV :-) -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 May 2006 19:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlogCFC v5 Released Don't worry about it, I'm 33 and I didn't know who he was, I just didn't listen to or care about Iron Maiden =) Mark A Kruger wrote: > 41 - but I completely missed the 70's and the 80's... > > -Original Message- > From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:29 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: BlogCFC v5 Released > > Oh dear oh dear Mark, how old are you ? > > -Original Message- > From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 May 2006 21:05 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: BlogCFC v5 Released > > Ok I'll rethink it. Who in the ham sandwich is Bruce Dickinson? > > -Original Message- > From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:10 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: BlogCFC v5 Released > > Mark A Kruger wrote: >> Ok, I watched this whole episode, and I have a sense of humor, but >> there has to be something I don't understand ... Some inside joke. >> It's funny But > > I think it's just the SNL style that you're not getting. I think it's > pretty funny myself. > > Maybe the humor is in that we all know that the cowbell sounds like > crap, but BRUCE DICKINSON the all powerful producer loves it, and so it gets done. > > Producers ruin albums all the time. > > Besides, it's Christopher Walken. comic genius. Love him! > > Rick > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240482 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: BlogCFC v5 Released
Oh dear oh dear Mark, how old are you ? -Original Message- From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2006 21:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: BlogCFC v5 Released Ok I'll rethink it. Who in the ham sandwich is Bruce Dickinson? -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 2:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: BlogCFC v5 Released Mark A Kruger wrote: > Ok, I watched this whole episode, and I have a sense of humor, but > there has to be something I don't understand ... Some inside joke. > It's funny But I think it's just the SNL style that you're not getting. I think it's pretty funny myself. Maybe the humor is in that we all know that the cowbell sounds like crap, but BRUCE DICKINSON the all powerful producer loves it, and so it gets done. Producers ruin albums all the time. Besides, it's Christopher Walken. comic genius. Love him! Rick ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240465 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Frameworks
Alas I think times are a changing, and if you were to be looking for a new job, there is a good chance you might need to familiar with the whole damn lot of them. russ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Barcode Generation
Yea, there is a tag that does it actually, might even be on cfdev.com If not, google it -Original Message- From: David Milhoan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2006 21:07 To: CF-Talk Subject: Barcode Generation Has anyone generated barcodes with Coldfusion? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240275 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Session Variables
It works, try it. -Original Message- From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2006 20:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session Variables Hmm... -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Session Variables You can't do it directly, but you can actually access all session for every site on the server by taking advantage of CF's security holes. See this for an example. http://russ.michaels.me.uk/index.cfm/2005/11/25/JRUN-Creeping-Death russ -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2006 20:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Session Variables Not sure but if the machines are on the same server maybe you could use the server scope? As i say i'm not sure though? On 11/05/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can I access session variables across multiple domains? > > For example.. if a customer logs into www.domain.com and I create a > session variable, can the domain www.example.com access that variable? > > Hope this makes sense. This will actually be the first time I will > use session variables... should be fun...LOL > > Jacob > > Not those domains without you building some kind of interface between > the two. > > But it is my understanding that you can configure sessions to share > between sub-domains of a main domain. Thus IIRC you can share session > data between this.example.com and that.example.com. But I have never > actually had a need to do this, so haven't tried. > > HTH > > > -- Nick Tong web: http://talkwebsolutions.co.uk blog: http://succor.co.uk shorturls: http://wapurl.co.uk ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240269 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Session Variables
You can't do it directly, but you can actually access all session for every site on the server by taking advantage of CF's security holes. See this for an example. http://russ.michaels.me.uk/index.cfm/2005/11/25/JRUN-Creeping-Death russ -Original Message- From: Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2006 20:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Session Variables Not sure but if the machines are on the same server maybe you could use the server scope? As i say i'm not sure though? On 11/05/06, Ian Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can I access session variables across multiple domains? > > For example.. if a customer logs into www.domain.com and I create a > session variable, can the domain www.example.com access that variable? > > Hope this makes sense. This will actually be the first time I will > use session variables... should be fun...LOL > > Jacob > > Not those domains without you building some kind of interface between > the two. > > But it is my understanding that you can configure sessions to share > between sub-domains of a main domain. Thus IIRC you can share session > data between this.example.com and that.example.com. But I have never > actually had a need to do this, so haven't tried. > > HTH > > > -- Nick Tong web: http://talkwebsolutions.co.uk blog: http://succor.co.uk shorturls: http://wapurl.co.uk ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240261 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Anyone done this before?
Well u don't want to slow down the db by keep all the old data in there, which will have to be searched through in your queries. So prob best to copy out the data to another table or even another DB when it is changed. -Original Message- From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 May 2006 17:42 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone done this before? That would have been a better way of putting it. Yes We want to track the changes made in the database. We would like to keep it indefinitely. On 5/11/06, Ben Nadel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By auditing, do you mean tracking changes? If so, how long do you need > to keep the old data for? > > ... > Ben Nadel > Web Developer > Nylon Technology > 350 7th Avenue > Floor 10 > New York, NY 10001 > 212.691.1134 > 212.691.3477 fax > www.nylontechnology.com > > "You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking > skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills." > - Napoleon Dynamite > -Original Message- > From: Phill B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 11:12 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Anyone done this before? > > We want to start auditing the database changes made in our home grown > CMS app. Anyone on here done this or have suggestions on where to > start with some thing like this? > > -- > Phil > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240238 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Losing Application Variables Randomly...
Locking :-) -Original Message- From: John Skrotzki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 22:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Losing Application Variables Randomly... I think I may have found the problem ( at least logically ) after examining my app code closer. I don't check to see if the appication.datasource is already defined. I just re-define it everytime. So it comes down to a race condition. If another person accesses that app at the exact same time the datasource is being redefined (structurely) it would of course not exists. I am modifying my code to check to see if it is already defined. Thoughts... > No I don't. But I am sure it is my coding somewhere as I still don't > have a solid grasp on the inner workings of apps and app files. I > will try the try / catch idea to see if I can narrow it down. It was > more of a minor irrantant as refreshing works but when sending emails > it becomes serious. Is there any defintive tutorial on the net on the ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240188 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cflocation and HTTPS/HTTP
Try doing a javascript redirection and see if it still happens. I have had numerous problems with cflocation, sometimes it just doesn't work on some peopels browsers at all. What I resorted to doing was on a NON display page where a cflocation was required, I just generated a meta refresh tag that redirected the page instead. -Original Message- From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 22:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cflocation and HTTPS/HTTP Yea, I appreciate that, guys, but that's not the error I'm getting. Everything's fine on that front. Believe me, I *was* getting it, but I have fixed that much. Now I'm down to the cflocation issue. Ray Snake wrote: > If you have full HTTP paths on all the image src that is, if they are > relative img paths without http that wont happen. > > -Original Message- > From: Everett, Al (NIH/NIGMS) [C] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10 May 2006 21:32 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: cflocation and HTTPS/HTTP > > Do you have images on the page? If you are hitting a page with https: > but the tags are http: you'll get that message for every image. > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240186 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Losing Application Variables Randomly...
Or if your on a shared server, other customers could be using the same application name too and thus hijacking your variables. -Original Message- From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 21:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Losing Application Variables Randomly... John, Check to see that you do not have any applications on the server that share the same "name" - like when you copy code for reuse :) -Original Message- From: John Skrotzki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 3:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Losing Application Variables Randomly... I was wondering if anybody else has run into this. We are randomly losing application variables ( mostly holding datasource info as that is what we use most ). We are running on a VPS with MX 6.1. Our session and server variables are not encountering any problems, just the application variables. Also another tibit is those application variables are structures. Refreshing page and the script works fine. There is no pattern that I can decern when it happens. Thanks... Here is the server log entry: at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) "Error","jrpp-1120","05/10/06","16:44:36","RAW","Element DATASOURCE.USERNAME is undefined in APPLICATION. The specific sequence of files included or processed is: C:\wwwroot\HTML\Wilderness\Common\Includes\Pricing\LoadPricing.cfm " coldfusion.runtime.UndefinedElementException: Element DATASOURCE.USERNAME is undefined in APPLICATION. at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.resolveCanonicalName(CfJspPage.java:1085) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._resolve(CfJspPage.java:1026) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._resolveAndAutoscalarize(CfJspPage.java:1125) at cfPricing_V0_82ecfm1716210770._factor35(C:\wwwroot\HTML\Wilderness\Common\In cludes\Pricing\Pricing_V0_8.cfm:489) at cfPricing_V0_82ecfm1716210770._factor41(C:\wwwroot\HTML\Wilderness\Common\In cludes\Pricing\Pricing_V0_8.cfm:3) at cfPricing_V0_82ecfm1716210770.runPage(C:\wwwroot\HTML\Wilderness\Common\Incl udes\Pricing\Pricing_V0_8.cfm:1) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:147) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:357) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTag(CfJspPage.java:1876) at cfLoadPricing2ecfm964484847.runPage(C:\wwwroot\HTML\Wilderness\Common\Includ es\Pricing\LoadPricing.cfm:2) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:147) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:357) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:62) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:107) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:48) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:80) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:47) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistence Filter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:35) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:43) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:249) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:192) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java: 348) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:451 ) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:29 4) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240184 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cflocation and HTTPS/HTTP
If you have full HTTP paths on all the image src that is, if they are relative img paths without http that wont happen. -Original Message- From: Everett, Al (NIH/NIGMS) [C] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 21:32 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: cflocation and HTTPS/HTTP Do you have images on the page? If you are hitting a page with https: but the tags are http: you'll get that message for every image. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240182 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Cferror and the site wide handler
Catch the errors and send an email to yourself and cfdump all scope sin the email. I have created a custom error handling component that displays a windows style error box with a button that when clicked will display all the useful error information in a hidden div, so while it looks pretty for users, there is still a way to see the error output on the site if you want to. Whether or this is enabled is a simple value I set in an XML file which also has the option to also email all errors to the webmaster. -Original Message- From: Plunkett, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 19:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cferror and the site wide handler Yes, I know where it is set. Thanks for confirming the order that they are processed. Now we have to find a new way to be secure (by hiding all the junk that default errors reveal), but let the developers see what is going on. Probably we need a smarter, more robust site wide handler. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:42 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cferror and the site wide handler No, the site wide error handler is specified in the CF Admin under the Server Settings > Settings section. That will catch any error produced by your site, and the processing will never make it to a page with CFERROR on it. -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 2:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Cferror and the site wide handler I am a bit confused as to the difference? When I use CFERror, I am using it as a site-wide handler? Then, I can use CFTRY/CFCATCH on individual pages. Are you talking about 404 handlers?? .. Ben Nadel Web Developer Nylon Technology 350 7th Avenue Floor 10 New York, NY 10001 212.691.1134 212.691.3477 fax www.nylontechnology.com "You know, like nunchuck skills, bowhunting skills, computer hacking skills... Girls only want boyfriends who have great skills." - Napoleon Dynamite ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240181 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: URL Structure
That is def v cool mark, I had never even thought of doing that :-)
-Original Message-
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 May 2006 18:28
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: URL Structure
Tuan,
I'm not sure what you are trying to do, but here's a trick that allows you
to manipulate links after the facts, as long as they are inside of "
tags.
Let's say your user put in "http://blah.com?name=joe J. Smith">Joe
J. Smith. What you want to appear is actually
http://blah.cfm?nameJoe%20J%2E%20Smith";>Joe J. Smith
But you do not want the user to encode it him or herself and you do not what
to allow them to do something like "#urlencodedformat("joe j. smith")#"
Here's a simple way to do that.
On the page that is being served (presumably a CFM Page). Add the following:
Then, create a folder called "htm" that branches from that same directory
(where the page is being served). Inside that folder place a file titled
"a.cfm" that can rewrite it for you. The result is that CF treats a call to
as if it were a call to the custom tags. The interior attributes become
attributes of the tag. You could even enforce a URL handler to track clicks
or whatever. You could do the same with the " tag, tag..
Whatever
I have a good sample on my blog:
http://mkruger.cfwebtools.com/index.cfm/2006/5/10/adaptive.tags
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RE: fusetalk
Ah yes, support that is the other thing. When you buy fusetalk, you have to buy a support plan at the same time, so you would expect to get support directly from them. But this doesn't happen, we have had to support customers directly as they got no help form fusetalk support. No forum is worth that much money, especially when you can get better for cheaper or even free. russ -Original Message- From: Eric J. Hoffman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 18:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fusetalk Had to laugh when I read that. They are ridiculously overpriced, support is terrible as they will ignore you for months. Run fast from this ego-trip product. We dumped it last year with prejudice after watching it misbehave far too many times. We are much happier with our new forums from CFM Powered. Eric J. Hoffman Managing Partner 2081 Industrial Blvd StillwaterMN55082 mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.ejhassociates.com tel: 651.717.4105 fax: 651.717.4115 mob: 651.245.2717 This message contains confidential information and is intended only for [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are not cf-talk@houseoffusion.com you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify [EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Eric J. Hoffman therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: fusetalk I've had clients use it several times and I've always thought it was a fairly nice application and it's fairly easy to work with. The problem I have with it is how proud they are of it. It's insanely expensive for what it is! The Basic edition has virtually NO features for about $700, so you're talking about $3K for the Standard version. And if you want unlimited forums or blogs, you've got to jump up to almost $5K. In my ever so humble opinion, that is ludicrous! Of course, if you've absolutely gotta have a CF forum app and you don't want to roll your own or build up from one of the available packages out there, then maybe $5K isn't a big deal for your org. --Ferg Jason Crider wrote: > Was going to ask what everyone's experience with fusetalk has been, > because I have a live demo with them in 45 minutes. > > Just went to their site...www.fusetalk.com and noticed they are having > a bit of trouble with a hacker. > > What's the experience been for everyone with fusetalk 3, if you've > used it. > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240110 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Migration from MX 6 to MX 7
It could be that this option is only available in the enterprise edition. -Original Message- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 17:31 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Migration from MX 6 to MX 7 I see Server Settings--> archives and deployment in my new server (MX7), but I don't see any such thing in my old server CF MX 6 (Standard Edition). Do I need to get any hot fixes to get that? - K On 5/10/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In CFMX 6 it's under Server Settings--> archives and deployment > > -Original Message- > From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 10 May 2006 17:16 > To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com > Subject: Re: Migration from MX 6 to MX 7 > > Hi. Please explain what you mean by Coldfusion Archive. Where will I > find it? > > Thanks, > K > > On 5/10/06, Snake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > U could use the coldfusion archive. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 10 May 2006 17:04 > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: Migration from MX 6 to MX 7 > > > > Hi. I am moving my site from one server to a new server MX7. Is > > there a way to quickly move the Scheduled Tasks from server to another? > > > > Please help. > > > > - K > > > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240103 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Migration from MX 6 to MX 7
U could use the coldfusion archive. -Original Message- From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 17:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: Migration from MX 6 to MX 7 Hi. I am moving my site from one server to a new server MX7. Is there a way to quickly move the Scheduled Tasks from server to another? Please help. - K ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240095 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Nothing anymore -Original Message- From: Terry L Schmitt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 15:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? So what's this got to do with CrystalTech and SQL Server? This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. "Mark A Kruger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 05/10/2006 10:28 AM Please respond to cf-talk@houseoffusion.com To CF-Talk cc Subject RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Jacob, That was me, and I did not use the word "fanatic". I was responding to someone who declared themselves a "linux snob". I was only speaking from personal experience. There are 6 developers here and we use a lot of technologies. No one has anything "bad" to say about Linux and we use it for specific purposes. So, from my perspective it's true. Windows folks are less prone to sling mud on Linux than Linux on Windows. My point (wich I did not explain very well), is that this has more to do with the "power differential" than the merits of the OS. Please allow me to indulge in a little analogy -- In sociological terms when a large power differential exists between 2 groups, it unites the minority group or entity under a banner of a common enemy and necessitates a higher level of loyalty. That may be what is happening here. A Windows user, being a part of the establishment power, can live without Linux and it doesn't appreciably affect his life. He can dabble in "Linux Culture" and spend time in the Linux neighborhood. He can choose to engage Linux users, or he can pretend they don't exist. Either way his life isn't affected to a great degree. He even has the luxury of saying "some of my best friends are Linux Users" :) Meanwhile a Linux user can't get away from Windows no matter how hard they try. The people they are forced to work for use windows. Developers writing applications on Linux must first make sure they work for windows users. Files come in windows formats, applications are released on windows and ported to Linux as an afterthought. They see the windows OS in power terms - a corrupt institution based on a poor operating system that magically took away power rightly belonging to the peoples while Linux has come (in the words of George Hamilton in "Zorro the gay blade") to "defend the defensless, and defeat the feetless". So my point was that windows users, being in a position of power, can "take it or leave it" without getting up in arms about it - while Linux folks feel like it is necessary to fight every battle in order to make any headway. Now please understand the analogy only works to a point. There is no "moral quality" to Linux - no high road. It's just an operating system for gosh sakes :) So I'm not saying that Linus Torvalis is the modern day equivelent of Martin Luther King. I'm only pointing out that the idea of a power differential - when the margin is great enough - has a predictable effect, as I think it does in this case. -Mk -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > That's kinda like "UNIX/Linux fans" who will use Unix based stuff no > matter how much of a PIA it is, right? My post previous to the one you replied to stated this point exactly. There are fanatical users in every camp. I was just responding to an accusation that there are only Linux fanatics, but no Microsoft fanatics. I don't remember who it was, but he was professing that Microsoft users will try all the options out there, while Linux users will shun Microsoft at all costs. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240091 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fusetalk
Yes, by putting a robots.txt file in the root of your site, but some people want their forum to be spidered as they want the posts to show up on google for example. How else would we find all the posts in the macromedia forums for example. I used to run Fusetalk myself on cfdeveloper, until I discovered it was the sole reason for the server keep crashing. -Original Message- From: Jason Crider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 14:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fusetalk Isn't there a way to prevent that spider from hitting it? -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 8:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: fusetalk It has a LOT of features, but I have not found it to be very user friendly for users, and it has a tendency to kill coldfusision if it gets hit by a spider. There are just lots of annoying little things. Like the fact that by default any forum category only shows threads for the last 30 days, and if there are none, it give the message that the forum is empty, which is misleading. The user has no idea he has to modify his preferences to show older messages in order to see anything, so this he never comes back as he thinks it is an inactive forum. Plus I found a lot of the advanced features just did not work properly, and I had to modify code. Every customer I have installed it for has had problems, doesn't understand it, and was not happy with it. The average forum requirements are much more basic in my experience, so if you really want a CF based forum, I would use galleon, or http://www.rinium.com/ Or just forgo CF and use one of the more popular ASP or PHP forums. Russ -Original Message- From: Jason Crider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 14:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: fusetalk Was going to ask what everyone's experience with fusetalk has been, because I have a live demo with them in 45 minutes. Just went to their site...www.fusetalk.com and noticed they are having a bit of trouble with a hacker. What's the experience been for everyone with fusetalk 3, if you've used it. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240079 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: fusetalk
It has a LOT of features, but I have not found it to be very user friendly for users, and it has a tendency to kill coldfusision if it gets hit by a spider. There are just lots of annoying little things. Like the fact that by default any forum category only shows threads for the last 30 days, and if there are none, it give the message that the forum is empty, which is misleading. The user has no idea he has to modify his preferences to show older messages in order to see anything, so this he never comes back as he thinks it is an inactive forum. Plus I found a lot of the advanced features just did not work properly, and I had to modify code. Every customer I have installed it for has had problems, doesn't understand it, and was not happy with it. The average forum requirements are much more basic in my experience, so if you really want a CF based forum, I would use galleon, or http://www.rinium.com/ Or just forgo CF and use one of the more popular ASP or PHP forums. Russ -Original Message- From: Jason Crider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 14:17 To: CF-Talk Subject: fusetalk Was going to ask what everyone's experience with fusetalk has been, because I have a live demo with them in 45 minutes. Just went to their site...www.fusetalk.com and noticed they are having a bit of trouble with a hacker. What's the experience been for everyone with fusetalk 3, if you've used it. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240071 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Well as it goes I actually have a CD with a copy of knoppix on it, which I boot up when I do want to do somehting on linux. Which isn't very often, so I do not bother having a permanent install of it. Russ -Original Message- From: Tom Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 May 2006 12:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? >>> On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 10:39 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well given the choice between using an MS product that is not very > good, or finding a spare computer, installing linux, learning how to > to use Linux, installing the "better product", learning how to use > that, then See where ya coming from, but it may be better to put the effort in and try, if it works a lot better afterword. > hoping > windows users can view the file format. Didn't catch the start of the thread, but these days that's not really an issue for anything I can think of. Tom Chiverton This email is sent for and on behalf of Halliwells LLP. Halliwells LLP is a limited liability partnership registered in England and Wales under registered number OC307980 whose registered office address is at St James's Court Brown Street Manchester M2 2JF. A list of members is available for inspection at the registered office. Any reference to a partner in relation to Halliwells LLP means a member of Halliwells LLP. Regulated by the Law Society. CONFIDENTIALITY This email is intended only for the use of the addressee named above and may be confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the addressee you must not read it and must not use any information contained in nor copy it nor inform any person other than Halliwells LLP or the addressee of its existence or contents. If you have received this email in error please delete it and notify Halliwells LLP IT Department on 0870 365 8008. For more information about Halliwells LLP visit www.halliwells.com. We are pleased to announce that Halliwells LLP has been voted AIM Lawyer of the Year at the 2005 Growth Company Awards ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240061 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Well given the choice between using an MS product that is not very good, or finding a spare computer, installing linux, learning how to to use Linux, installing the "better product", learning how to use that, then hoping windows users can view the file format. I would of corse still choose option 1 because it wont take anywhere near as long, wont be as stressful, and serves the purpose. Going through all the wasted time an effort of learning a new OS just to use a few better programs would be kinda silly. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 09 May 2006 17:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > Maybe the problem is that you're talking to "Microsoft fans", whoever > they are. Most users of Windows, or almost any other product for that > matter, aren't fans - they may be satisfied customers, but they're not > fanatic about their choices. "Microsoft fans" is just my personal term for people that will use Microsoft for everything, regardless of how bad the product is when compared to the competition. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240056 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Use a commodore64 ? -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 21:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > I'm a Linux snob, and I'll admit it. While I use Windows for my > desktop, I have good reasons for liking Linux on the server, and you > guys have good reasons for liking Windows, and I don't think anything > is ever going to change our opinions. This has nothing to do with likes or dislikes, feelings or snobbery. I like Linux, myself. Solaris 10 is actually pretty neat. But if someone posts that they're having an issue with Windows, or SQL Server, or whatever, "use Linux" is usually not the best answer. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:240008 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Dunno what your using then, as it's not on any of my servers. -Original Message- From: Plunkett, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 17:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? SYSTEM is a member of the Administrators group. -Original Message- From: Snake Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 11:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Really? I have no problems at all logging in with non administrator accounts and managing the servers, its not difficult at all. And the service son the server do not run under administrator, they run under the SYSTEM acocunt by default. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:23 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
If that I show it has been setup then yes. Altho the SYETEM acocunt is not an administrator. -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 16:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > Really? > I have no problems at all logging in with non administrator accounts > and managing the servers, its not difficult at all. > And the service son the server do not run under administrator, they > run under the SYSTEM acocunt by default. Oh cool! So if I remotely take over a SQL Server, I get full system rights? I'm there! ;) - This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239959 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
I was saying it is insecure IF customers put their login into the DSN. This is not directed at any shared host, but is a comment about shared hosting in general. Shared hsoting cannot be considered secure by any means, as your sharing a server with hundreds of other people, any of which could find a backdoor, vulnerability or hack into your data. And cF in particular is horrible on shared hosting, some things you just cannot lock down period unless you cripple CF's functionality. You either do not give people access to cfobject/createobject and cripple their ability use CFC's and certain frameworks or even run their exsiting code, or you allow these tags/functions and open up your whole server to abuse. Unfortunately the latter is the only real option as not many people will host without those tags/functions. Russ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 16:38 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? >I didn't say it was. Sorryfelt like you were saying shared hosting was insecure because DSNs could be guessed ;-) flippin e-mail! ;-) Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239941 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Really? I have no problems at all logging in with non administrator accounts and managing the servers, its not difficult at all. And the service son the server do not run under administrator, they run under the SYSTEM acocunt by default. -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 16:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Another aspect of this is that in Windows it's notoriously difficult to run as anything other than an Administrator and have anything work. In Linux/UNIX, operating as root is seldom necessary. On 5/9/06, Munson, Jacob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What I have seen happen a lot is people switch to Linux because they > > hate windows. Everything is up and running fine for them but they > > do not invest the proper time to learn how to maintain the box to > > keep aware of security patches. Now you have an OS with multiple > > services from multiple open source projects and anyone of those can > > end up having a security exploit that some 12 year old will use to > > "own" the box and the admin may never even know the kid is in there. > > Windows certainly gets more than its fair share of exploits but it > > just seems like with the typical weekend sysadmin that the process > > to alert people of exploits and fixes for them is much better in the > > windows world. > > I think you are correct for /some/ Linux distributions (like > Mandriva), but this is not the case for the majority of them. The > biggest security difference between Windows and Linux is that Linux > forces the sysadmin to turn on services as he needs them. Windows > 2000 and earlier assumed you'd need stuff like IIS/FTP/Telnet/etc. and turned them on by default. > Win2k3 and Linux assume you don't need anything but bare > functionality, and you have to manually turn on the services you need. > This has been a standard security practice in the computing world for > years, but Windows introduced the "we trust our users and hope there aren't any hackers" > mentality. -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239939 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
I didn't say it was. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 16:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > its usually not hard to guess someones DSN, its usually the sitename > or somehting similar, > > Snake > Againthat's the fault of the person picking the name...not the ISPnot a reason for an ISP to be lazy Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239933 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Free cf shopping cart
Well no, but very almost, $2.50 is less than I spend on a beer, so I wont quibble over it :-) -Original Message- From: Brian Rinaldi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 16:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Free cf shopping cart >It was a topic on the list a while back, people moaning about the lack >of a free opensource shoppingcart for CF, so I thought I would post this. > >http://www.cfshopkart.com/ > >-- >Snake I was going to add this to the open-source list (http://www.remotesynthesis.com/cfopensourcelist/) but the site says it is free but then adds the disclaimer that it is free after a required $2.50 donation. While I understand that the donation is minimal, this isn't exactly what I would call free is it? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239931 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Couldn't have said it better :-) -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 16:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > I really am perplexed as to why the majority of CF users use > Windows/MSSQL (at least from what I've seen). You'd think with such a > strong affinity for MS products, they'd be using ASP.Net as well, but > that's not the case. I know, I know, CF is a LOT better than ASP.Net, > but I could say the same thing about Oracle/DB2/MySQL vs. MSSQL, but > that doesn't change anything. CF predates ASP and ASP.NET by many years. I suspect that if this were not the case, there would be far fewer CF programmers. I remember when Windows NT Magazine put up their web site, using CF, because that's what was available. During CF's existence, Microsoft has promoted about four different ways to develop web applications; there were two technologies prior to classic ASP. As for saying Oracle/DB2/MySQL are a lot better than MS SQL Server, not so much. SQL Server is far, far easier to configure, manage and maintain than Oracle and DB2, and has tons of functionality; MySQL is just catching up. Overall, for many CF developers, MS SQL Server is arguably the best option. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239929 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Cozz were not mad enough to want to learn how to use Linux :-) -Original Message- From: Munson, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 15:27 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > The good thing about CF is that as a J2EE app, code works (for the > most part) on Linux and on Windows. The bad thing about this > portability is that the same security holes are just as portable; a CF > server with JSP enabled and no sandboxing is as bad on Windows as on > Linux. The DB may be less of a hassle, but I know zip about MSSQL so I > can't say. Yeah, I'm on shared hosting at HostMySite, and they're using sandboxing. I really am perplexed as to why the majority of CF users use Windows/MSSQL (at least from what I've seen). You'd think with such a strong affinity for MS products, they'd be using ASP.Net as well, but that's not the case. I know, I know, CF is a LOT better than ASP.Net, but I could say the same thing about Oracle/DB2/MySQL vs. MSSQL, but that doesn't change anything. - This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239912 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Free cf shopping cart
It was a topic on the list a while back, people moaning about the lack of a free opensource shoppingcart for CF, so I thought I would post this. http://www.cfshopkart.com/ -- Snake ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239911 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
But you wont get sandboxes and cfobject being disabled on the cheap, do what you want, everything enabled host, that is the whole point. If you want that kind of security, you usually have to go to a host that specialises in CF (like us) and knows what they are doing Most people looking for a shared host do not want any restrictions and will look for the host with nothing disabled and the cheapest prices and don't really care about security until after something happens to them. You only have to see the posts on this list to see that really. Snake -Original Message- From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 02:13 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? With sandboxing and no cfobject (java) tag, this can be done with reasonable safety. On 5/9/06, Bryan Stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Especially as a lot of clients put their username/passwor dinto the > > DSN , which means everyone else on the server can get into their > > database anyway using CFQUERY. > 2) If a client puts their user/pass in the DSN, it's their own damn > faultnot the ISP! (of course you'd still need the DSN to access > anything via CFQUERY) -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239882 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
I have not had any problems with running this script so far, at least nothing I know of, but then none of the customers do anyhting more complex than DTS and creating tables really. SQL 2005 still ha sthe same issue, but I did read something that there is a similar script provided. BTW, none of my databases on any SQL server has a default guest user on them. Snake -Original Message- From: Joel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 00:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Hi Guys, The script you are after is http://support.microsoft.com/kb/889696/en-us (Run this script at your own risk, and pls test it on a dev server before running on a prod server) it only works on SQL 2000. I don't think they is one for 2005, haven't had much time to play with 2005 yet. By default guest is assigned to all the DB's hence everyone has access to all the DB on the server if you have access via EM, pls remove Guest from all DB's, now you will see only a list of DB's via EM and wont have access to them. I think they are two system DB's that you cant remove Guest from. Russ what side effects have you come across from running the MS script (hopefully I didn't read your post wrongly)? If anyone can share any info about 2005, that would be great. Joel ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239881 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Well your not the norm then Andy, most developers do not have that setup. Snake -Original Message- From: Andy Allan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 00:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Our Development/Staging/QA/whatever-you-want-to-call-it mirrors Production exactly. CF settings, JVM settings, OS settings, Apache settings. It has to. (OK you can get away with the odd discrepency). Now true, we won't have external users hitting this environment, but we still have to load test it by simulating X number of users, etc so we are still creating the millions of visitors and thousands of sessions etc that you're on about. And I'm assuming this is what Jochem is on about??? Of course, if we're all on about the workstation I develop on before it goes to Dev/Staging/whatever then fair enough, it is night and day. Andy ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239880 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
its usually not hard to guess someones DSN, its usually the sitename or somehting similar, and if createobject is enabled on the server, you can grab all the DSN's from the service factory anwyay. Snake -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 May 2006 00:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? 1) Going with the "default" is no excuse for an ISP when it comes to security (if that's what has happend) 2) If a client puts their user/pass in the DSN, it's their own damn faultnot the ISP! (of course you'd still need the DSN to access anything via CFQUERY) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239879 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
It is nothing to do with guest user, databases do not have this by default, as stated, this is the known default behaviour of SQL server and EM and Microsoft released a stored proc to update themaster table to stop users seeing others users DB's. You can easily test this yourself, by creating a new DB with a new user, then open EM and conenct to the server as that user. Unless oyu have made efforts to modify your SQL server as mentioned, u will see all databases. Snake -Original Message- From: Stephen Hait [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 22:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? I think this occurs when databases have a user with the name of guest. Databases without a user named guest should not have their objects or even their database names exposed. If you have a user in your database named guest, delete that user and your database should not be visible to others thru EM. That's my understanding, anyway. Regards, Stephen On 5/8/06, Matt Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > After signing onto a new client's SQL Server account, first on one dedicated server and then another, I found I could not only see several other databases belonging to other customers... I could click on the Tables tab and see all of their tables. Taking it a step further, I could double-click on a table and pull up its table structure. All of this is in SQL Enterprise Manager. They have two separate accounts and I could see eight other databases that didn't belong to my client on one server and 9 on the other. > > I could not modify the tables or view the data (I didn't even try to Drop of course). > > Poking around a little more, I found I could view all of another db's stored procedures! > > This prompted me to load up a second customer of mine, who also has a SQL account at Crystaltech. Same freaking story! > > Before I completely blow a gasket I wanted to confirm this is as big of a screwup as I think it is. There is an easy fix for this right? I fired up another client and, while I can see other existing db's, if I try and click on anything I get a refusal (error 916. not an authorized user). > > Anyone else with a Crystaltech account... Can you chime in here? Do you see the same things I do? > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239868 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Well as I have all our servers locked down I can't actually check to see how far you can get with the default configuration. I know you can see everyone elses databases, and I'm sure you can also open the database and view the tables. Just because you cannot do this at CFD, does not mean it is not the default, it could simply mean that CFD have done something different. If you want to know why CT haven't done the same, you will need to ask them, but I would presume they wimply don't know how or don't care. At the end of the day, a shared SQL server cannot be considered secure anyway. Especially as a lot of clients put their username/passwor dinto the DSN , which means everyone else on the server can get into their database anyway using CFQUERY. - snake -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 19:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Sorry Snake but this isn't correct. Seeing the DB names in EM is one thing. Being able to get down to the object level (tables, stored procs, or views) is not the norm. I just signed into my shared CFDynamics DB server and can see a boatload of other DBs but I can't see any of their tables or additional objects. If CFD can do it, then I don't see why CT can't. Rey... http://www.reybango.com Snake wrote: > This is not a security hole at crystatech, it is simply how enterprise > manager/sql server works. > It does not restrict you from viewing other databases, but you > cannot do anything with them if your user does not have access. > > There is a modfication you can make to the master database SP's to > change this behaviour, but CT obviously don't know about that, and it > has been known to cause other issues if you do it anyway. > > -- > Snake > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 08 May 2006 17:58 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? > > After signing onto a new client's SQL Server account, first on one > dedicated server and then another, I found I could not only see > several other databases belonging to other customers... I could click > on the Tables tab and see all of their tables. Taking it a step > further, I could double-click on a table and pull up its table > structure. All of this is in SQL Enterprise Manager. They have two > separate accounts and I could see eight other databases that didn't > belong to my client on one server and 9 on the other. > > I could not modify the tables or view the data (I didn't even try to > Drop of course). > > Poking around a little more, I found I could view all of another db's > stored procedures! > > This prompted me to load up a second customer of mine, who also has a > SQL account at Crystaltech. Same freaking story! > > Before I completely blow a gasket I wanted to confirm this is as big > of a screwup as I think it is. There is an easy fix for this right? > I fired up another client and, while I can see other existing db's, if > I try and click on anything I get a refusal (error 916. not an authorized user). > > Anyone else with a Crystaltech account... Can you chime in here? Do > you see the same things I do? > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239867 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
To tune the server and CF for high usage, multiple sites, large amounts of traffic, lots of memory usage, security etc. A development server will happily run with CF installed with the default settings as you will not be running hundreds of sites with millions of visitors, nor will you be generating thousands of sessions or client variables, or cached queries, nor will you be sharing the server with other customer and have to restrict certain things. Aside from CF there are of course the windows/IIS configuration differences, the security policies... The difference is night and day Russ -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 19:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Snake wrote: > Like everything. > There is a big difference to hosting a production server with hundreds > of sites on it and millions of hits per day and running a development > server with 1 developer on it and no traffic. There is indeed a big difference in what you must do (like make backups) and especially in what you must not do (like run ET). But you said there was a lot more to *learn* to run a server. Isn't your development environment a close approximation of your production environment? So what do you need to learn to run a server in production that you do not need to learn in a development environment? Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239866 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
Yep, we have done the modification so users cannot see others databases, but most don't. As I have mentioned b4, it's a tossup with shared hosting, if you want cheap hosting and to be able to do what you like on the server without restriction, then you have to accept the lack of security that comes with it. You can't have all tags enabled and open EM access to your databases, and cheap as chips hosting and expect it to all be secure. We (www.cfmxhosting.co.uk) opt for the secure route. No EM access unless you have a static IP, and we then allow you through the firewall. No access to unsecure tags without a security sandbox No CreateObject (java) You get what you pay for at the end of the day. -- Russ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 18:14 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? Yes this can be solved (don't ask me how though).and yes that is a pretty SERIOUS screw-up on their part. The ISP I use does show you all other DBs on the shared server, but you cannot connect to any of themso no seeing the tables and so on...just DB namesso it is doable. Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239836 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech?
This is not a security hole at crystatech, it is simply how enterprise manager/sql server works. It does not restrict you from viewing other databases, but you cannot do anything with them if your user does not have access. There is a modfication you can make to the master database SP's to change this behaviour, but CT obviously don't know about that, and it has been known to cause other issues if you do it anyway. -- Snake -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 17:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Big SQL security hole at Crystaltech? After signing onto a new client's SQL Server account, first on one dedicated server and then another, I found I could not only see several other databases belonging to other customers... I could click on the Tables tab and see all of their tables. Taking it a step further, I could double-click on a table and pull up its table structure. All of this is in SQL Enterprise Manager. They have two separate accounts and I could see eight other databases that didn't belong to my client on one server and 9 on the other. I could not modify the tables or view the data (I didn't even try to Drop of course). Poking around a little more, I found I could view all of another db's stored procedures! This prompted me to load up a second customer of mine, who also has a SQL account at Crystaltech. Same freaking story! Before I completely blow a gasket I wanted to confirm this is as big of a screwup as I think it is. There is an easy fix for this right? I fired up another client and, while I can see other existing db's, if I try and click on anything I get a refusal (error 916. not an authorized user). Anyone else with a Crystaltech account... Can you chime in here? Do you see the same things I do? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239834 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
I think it is also dependant on what your doing on the server. Single site, prob no issues. Multiple sites (i.e. shared hosting), that's when u have more problems. -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 12:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer On 5/8/06, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have to agree - I still think CF5 was more stable that MX. Java > certainly did add a few more oddities in terms of stability which > needs far more tweaking of the JVM. Oddly, 6.1 did much better for us, and 7 has been even better then 6.1. Didn't have to mess with the JVM much over here. A couple of things, like session timeouts for jrun or mailspool/thread settings came up eventually, but the solutions were all over the place, and editing the config wasn't too... ** Stability-wise. 4.5 was pretty solid, from what I remember. That's what I started on. *sniff* with my bud that's now gone. Alas. Eh, look at majordomo. That sucker lasted ferever. Solid. Solid as a rock. We built this city... Um... never mind. Got a little carried away. =-] Generally: Guess a lot depends on what you're trying to do, etc.., as to what problems you run into, etc.. Hmmm... well, that's all for me. ** Cheers Lev, wherever you may be. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239804 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Ok, well I assume your customers are all smallfry and wouldn't actually notice/care if u killed the server running some untested code that caused an infinite loop or somehting then. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 10:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Yep...no problem... Rick -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 4:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer You develop directly on your live server !! :-O !!! Do I really need to say anything? Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Sounds like you got things set up well for your development without risk to your production setup. I used to develop locally, but now, since I'm developing for CF 4.5 which is all that's on the server, I just develop right on the server. I set up development sites for clients under my domain so they can view design work and test functions as I development. That way they can see progress, provide feedback on design, test functionality, and get their training on the app as I go. By the time I'm finished, they're already familiar with the app. If I setup a new version of CF, however, it definitely wouldn't be on the production server. Testing and development would be on a different server, hardware and software. I try to be as cautious as resources will allow... Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 6:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > You gotta swim at some point. > > Agreed...I'm just trying to decide what pool to swim in this time. I hear you. In a changing world, assessing what the future will bring is not as straight forward as one would wish. =-] I think it would be wise to add ASP.NET to my repertoire. > Especially if something should happen with CF, which I don't think it > will. But if it should, I could use ASP.NET for business continuity.. The only real gripe I have about ASP is it's dependence on MS. With mono you can get around that, sorta, I hear, so it's probably not too big a deal, but it bugs me how MS always has to have some "standard" that is standard only to their products. =-/ I wouldn't say I was living in fear of change, I've just gone through > enough upgrades with various products to know there are always issues. > But now that I have several server that I can test new products on > without having to touch my production server, testing becomes less > risky. For sure. A good development environment is essential to any endeavour of this nature. Really essential. That is one nice facet to the multiple instances of CF idea, you could have one server instance that is for development and one for production, so if you crash and burn the dev instance you don't get the production one (theoretically, and not always true). As for the mirroring of dev and server, for years I've been able to have a pretty close setup to what's on the production server, including a VMware install for added testing, on my laptop. Now that I've got gigs of data to copy back and forth tho, it's getting a little tedious, and I can see a future where it's impossible to have the same setup as on the server, locally. Thus, a real interest in test cases and small amounts of data. Still just getting my bearings, but I can see the usefulness. So far what's working good is a production server, a dev server, and my local workstation (running more servers than the servers are ;-). So long as the dev server is real real similar to the production one, the transitions aren't too bad. Main campus adds a 4th step, a QA server, that is exactly the same as the production one, but called "quality assurance" instead. That's a smart setup. Cuts down on the need to deploy your apps in the dead of night. I gotta ask... 'leetness? What in the world does that mean? Heh. Sorry, it's sorta shorthand for elite. And where in this world is home for you? I hail from Albuquerque, New Mexico. The Land of Enchantment. [-= It's a swell town, give a shout if you're ever in the hood. :den ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239802 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
You develop directly on your live server !! :-O !!! Do I really need to say anything? Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 May 2006 00:48 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Sounds like you got things set up well for your development without risk to your production setup. I used to develop locally, but now, since I'm developing for CF 4.5 which is all that's on the server, I just develop right on the server. I set up development sites for clients under my domain so they can view design work and test functions as I development. That way they can see progress, provide feedback on design, test functionality, and get their training on the app as I go. By the time I'm finished, they're already familiar with the app. If I setup a new version of CF, however, it definitely wouldn't be on the production server. Testing and development would be on a different server, hardware and software. I try to be as cautious as resources will allow... Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 6:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > You gotta swim at some point. > > Agreed...I'm just trying to decide what pool to swim in this time. I hear you. In a changing world, assessing what the future will bring is not as straight forward as one would wish. =-] I think it would be wise to add ASP.NET to my repertoire. > Especially if something should happen with CF, which I don't think it > will. But if it should, I could use ASP.NET for business continuity.. The only real gripe I have about ASP is it's dependence on MS. With mono you can get around that, sorta, I hear, so it's probably not too big a deal, but it bugs me how MS always has to have some "standard" that is standard only to their products. =-/ I wouldn't say I was living in fear of change, I've just gone through > enough upgrades with various products to know there are always > issues. But now that I have several server that I can test new > products on without having to touch my production server, > testing becomes less risky. For sure. A good development environment is essential to any endeavour of this nature. Really essential. That is one nice facet to the multiple instances of CF idea, you could have one server instance that is for development and one for production, so if you crash and burn the dev instance you don't get the production one (theoretically, and not always true). As for the mirroring of dev and server, for years I've been able to have a pretty close setup to what's on the production server, including a VMware install for added testing, on my laptop. Now that I've got gigs of data to copy back and forth tho, it's getting a little tedious, and I can see a future where it's impossible to have the same setup as on the server, locally. Thus, a real interest in test cases and small amounts of data. Still just getting my bearings, but I can see the usefulness. So far what's working good is a production server, a dev server, and my local workstation (running more servers than the servers are ;-). So long as the dev server is real real similar to the production one, the transitions aren't too bad. Main campus adds a 4th step, a QA server, that is exactly the same as the production one, but called "quality assurance" instead. That's a smart setup. Cuts down on the need to deploy your apps in the dead of night. I gotta ask... 'leetness? What in the world does that mean? Heh. Sorry, it's sorta shorthand for elite. And where in this world is home for you? I hail from Albuquerque, New Mexico. The Land of Enchantment. [-= It's a swell town, give a shout if you're ever in the hood. :den ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239800 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Like everything. There is a big difference to hosting a production server with hundreds of sites on it and millions of hits per day and running a development server with 1 developer on it and no traffic. -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 20:06 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Snake wrote: > Well I guess for most CFML developers in a full-time job, the server > side of things is not their problem, they just do the code. But if > your self employed/freelance, and have to look after your own server > and maybe even do the hosting as well, there is certainly a shedload > more you need to learn to maintain a stable server. Like what? I think my development environment is significantly more complicated then anything I have ever ran in production. Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239794 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: I think I'm in love!
I think the chances of that are very slim Wil, you just got lucky. My wife just groans if ever anyone mentions CF, iftho she does defend it if anysays it's crap or says ASP is better :-) Russ -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 12:40 To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: I think I'm in love! I know this is OT but I think it's so cool! So I have this new girlfriend that seems to dig computers, programming, etc. She already knows some general programming because she spits it out at me here and there. I told her all about CF... she loves my shirts... she likes the idea about what CF does/how it works. She also likes web sites, and the idea of building them. I installed Studio 8 on her machine the other day. I went over yesterday and spotted some print outs by her laptop. She had printed out CF/DW tutorials from the docs so she could practice and learn CF! lol! This is the coolest thing I've ever seen. I'm gonna get her to start helping me on projects since she's seems so enthused. We should start a CF dating website. Everyone needs a CF chick! :) Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239785 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy
I know openmind, Phil is a good bloke, I help him with his CF related server problems sometimes, in fact now that I think about it, I help out most of the other UK CF hosts when they have CF server problems, talk about helping the competition lol. So perhaps I should be giving a plug to www.cfmxhosting.co.uk as well. Russ -Original Message- From: Kev McCabe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 12:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy If you want cheap and really friendly cf hosting I suggest Open Mind Hosting http://www.openmindhosting.co.uk/adserver/adclick.php?n=abe85c3f&in=28 UK Based and only cf mx6.1 but never had an issue with them and I'm able to run blogcfc -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 12:04 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion with Godaddy This is hilarious! I emailed them again about changing my default start page to index.cfm, and here's their response. lol! Due to its complex nature, your issue has been relayed to our Advanced Technical Support Team. Our most skilled technicians will be working to resolve your issue, quickly and completely. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239784 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Well I guess for most CFML developers in a full-time job, the server side of things is not their problem, they just do the code. But if your self employed/freelance, and have to look after your own server and maybe even do the hosting as well, there is certainly a shedload more you need to learn to maintain a stable server. Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 May 2006 00:49 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer And that's one of the major concerns I had about upgrading. After CF became JAVA based (if that's accurate), I started seeing things on this list I couldn't begin to comprehend, having had no experience with JAVA whatsoever. I felt like I'd really be getting in over my head trying to deal with issues of CF and, as you stated, JRUN, and the JVM. I finally had a stable CF system and was really afraid to touch it, being a one server business. I didn't have multiple servers as I do now, and couldn't afford for something to go wrong. The water got a little too deep for comfort. Rick -----Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Altho, all things considered with the improvements CFMX brings, I still find CF5 more stable than CFMX. The inclusion of JAVA to the equation increased the number of things that can go wrong on your server. Instead of just CF being the problem, you now have CF, JRUN and the JVM. An error on CF5 was a lot easier to diagnose too, whereas you have to know somehting about JAVA to decipher a JVM stacktrace. Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 22:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Thanks for the perspective, Denny. I've haven't tried talking with Adobe about it, but should I decide to upgrade, I'll certainly talk to them. As far as the changes from 4.5 to the current version, I wasn't saying not much has changed, except from the standpoint of all the changes still end up performing add, update, delete, report as the basics of CF functionality. Of course, I'm speaking out of inexperience in actually using any of the later versions, especially the current one, but what would you say are the basic functionality advances in CF (or asp, jsp, or whatever) in the last decade? Sure, faster, more efficient ways of using code, faster execution, and... (I'm sure there are many other efficiencies I'm not aware of), but what basic purposes of CF have changed. One of the biggest changes I have been intrigued by is Flash remoting, and now Flex, but as one who builds sites that have to have search engine optimization as a major concern, Flash is totally disfunctional from that perspective compared with plain ole HTML. I guess I'm just looking at the very broad picture of dynamic data use, and not even just CF. Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts. Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Out of curiosity, has anyone called adobe and tried the old human element? I only dealt with MM via email, but they were pretty helpful. Some companies give their employees (i.e. sales department folks) more power than others, allowing them to make exceptions based on their judgement. It doesn't hurt to mention that you have several sites running 4.5, so they'd be getting more than a one time purchase. Sometimes future money is worth something, probably more than old money, but... I dunno. Depends on who you get, and how you handle it, etc.. Worth a try tho if you're serious about it. I know I mentioned this earlier, but I don't know if it happened, and if it did, I'd be interested in how helpful (or non-helpful) the sales reps are/were. Maybe Snake is correct, and they are only looking out for the big spenders, I haven't dealt with anyone personally in quite a while, so... Well, the human element is sooo hit and miss tho, I guess one's experience wouldn't reflect/help too much with an other's. Eh, worth a shot at least. I think Dave W. has the right idea, there has been a lot of work put into CF, and I disagree with the idea that not much has changed since 4.5. There are tons of areas with slick stuff that was never available before, clustering is easier than ever, etc.. For contrast, where I work we use an app that costs us $7000 a year, and they do about as much work as I do in a day that whole year. I'm exaggerating, but not by as much as I'd like to be. I agree, value is a concept like relation and plurals/singular(s), somewhat gray by nature. But Dave hit it on the head, your time is the factor you should consider above initial cost. Of course, yo
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Altho, all things considered with the improvements CFMX brings, I still find CF5 more stable than CFMX. The inclusion of JAVA to the equation increased the number of things that can go wrong on your server. Instead of just CF being the problem, you now have CF, JRUN and the JVM. An error on CF5 was a lot easier to diagnose too, whereas you have to know somehting about JAVA to decipher a JVM stacktrace. Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 22:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Thanks for the perspective, Denny. I've haven't tried talking with Adobe about it, but should I decide to upgrade, I'll certainly talk to them. As far as the changes from 4.5 to the current version, I wasn't saying not much has changed, except from the standpoint of all the changes still end up performing add, update, delete, report as the basics of CF functionality. Of course, I'm speaking out of inexperience in actually using any of the later versions, especially the current one, but what would you say are the basic functionality advances in CF (or asp, jsp, or whatever) in the last decade? Sure, faster, more efficient ways of using code, faster execution, and... (I'm sure there are many other efficiencies I'm not aware of), but what basic purposes of CF have changed. One of the biggest changes I have been intrigued by is Flash remoting, and now Flex, but as one who builds sites that have to have search engine optimization as a major concern, Flash is totally disfunctional from that perspective compared with plain ole HTML. I guess I'm just looking at the very broad picture of dynamic data use, and not even just CF. Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts. Rick -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 4:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer Out of curiosity, has anyone called adobe and tried the old human element? I only dealt with MM via email, but they were pretty helpful. Some companies give their employees (i.e. sales department folks) more power than others, allowing them to make exceptions based on their judgement. It doesn't hurt to mention that you have several sites running 4.5, so they'd be getting more than a one time purchase. Sometimes future money is worth something, probably more than old money, but... I dunno. Depends on who you get, and how you handle it, etc.. Worth a try tho if you're serious about it. I know I mentioned this earlier, but I don't know if it happened, and if it did, I'd be interested in how helpful (or non-helpful) the sales reps are/were. Maybe Snake is correct, and they are only looking out for the big spenders, I haven't dealt with anyone personally in quite a while, so... Well, the human element is sooo hit and miss tho, I guess one's experience wouldn't reflect/help too much with an other's. Eh, worth a shot at least. I think Dave W. has the right idea, there has been a lot of work put into CF, and I disagree with the idea that not much has changed since 4.5. There are tons of areas with slick stuff that was never available before, clustering is easier than ever, etc.. For contrast, where I work we use an app that costs us $7000 a year, and they do about as much work as I do in a day that whole year. I'm exaggerating, but not by as much as I'd like to be. I agree, value is a concept like relation and plurals/singular(s), somewhat gray by nature. But Dave hit it on the head, your time is the factor you should consider above initial cost. Of course, your time is relative, so, it is a complicated formula (or is that equation? bah ;). Who knows what the future holds. Educated guesses are the best we can get. cfdump has saved me hours alone tho, seconded. Or thirded. :-) Good luck making up your mind, this is a decision that will continue to effect (or affect?) you for years to come, it looks like. :denny ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239769 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cf-talk is weird =)
Isn't there a separate HOF list for people who just want to argue, troll, flame etc? cf-community isn't it? I also run one of these at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Snake -Original Message- From: Denny Valliant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 20:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cf-talk is weird =) On 5/6/06, Kevin Aebig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you want to carry on a conversation, do it elsewhere. The rules are > in place for a reason and if you have a problem with those rules, than > feel free to take it up with our hosts. Maybe the name should be changed to CF-Tech instead, neh? Just so the wrong impression isn't given? :-) Wouldn't hurt to have a link to the rules as a page footer maybe, or in the headers (maybe it is, I can't seem to find the "show headers" button in gmail. Oh, there it is, under "more options">"show original"). I know you can get to them via the subscribe link. Eh, I don't have enough initiative to ask the host, but if stuff bugs one, maybe one should. To be a kind of traffic cop, I'm waving my flashlight towards CF-Community. Nothing to see here folks, move along. :-) -in jest, :den ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239755 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Interesting concept, but you would have to wait 10 years to find out they are a loyal customer though. In the case of big corporates like Adobe, a loyal and worthy customer is someone who spends shedloads of money not just someone who uses their product and sticks with it. I know Macromedia didn't have time for anyone spending less than $50k, so I would imagine Adobe are probably the same. The criteria will always be different depending on the company and its size. Snake -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 18:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > I simply pointed out that most companies don't consider someone who > buys one product, once, to be a loyal customer. What's the criteria for being a loyal customer? Buying something every time they have something to sell whether it benefits me or not? Every time, which has been once, that I needed a means to produce dynamic websites and applications, I turned to Allaire > Macromedia > Adobe for that solution. I've never gone anywhere else. If a customer hires me to design a website and then it's 10 years before they want a re-design, but they come back to me for that re-design, I consider that loyalty. They don't have to get a re-design every year to be considered a loyal customer. Rick -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > From your view, good business is the customer doing what's best for > the company. From my view, good business is the company doing what's > best for the customer. That's not my view at all. However, you mentioned that you were a "loyal" customer; I simply pointed out that most companies don't consider someone who buys one product, once, to be a loyal customer. As for your view, if you carry that to its extreme, you would go out of business pretty quickly. After all, it would be best for your customers if you worked for free. > CF 4.5 still has plenty of value to me. It's paid for itself many > times over...but that doesn't mean that Adobe now > *deserves* more money from me. Who said anything about deserving? If their product is worth its cost, buy it. If it's not, don't buy it. You know how much it will cost, so you should be able to figure this out for yourself (and you may have already). But there's absolutely no point in going on about how you deserve to pay less than they're willing to sell for, because that's not going to happen. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239753 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy
Don't they even have a control panel where you can do these things yourself? -Original Message- From: Will Tomlinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 May 2006 13:02 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion with Godaddy Just cranked up a godaddy site this mornin. Their website is incredibly crappy! I'm having to contact them to change the default start page to index.cfm. Only index.htm seems to work so far. We'll see how it goes Will ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239745 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Secure FTP Server on Windows?
Gene6 ftp server, it is prob the best ftp server currently available, and
has over taken serv-u ftp.
snake
-Original Message-
From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 May 2006 21:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Secure FTP Server on Windows?
We've been using Filezilla Server for internal and non-secure FTP but we now
have a need for secure FTP.
We only have a few users that need FTP, but FileZilla Server only supports
FTP over SSL, and from what I can tell, Dreamweaver only supports FTP over
SSH ("SFTP").
I'm looking for a cheap, simple, secure FTP server that supports FTP over
SSH. I'd PREFER that the user account database NOT be linked to the Windows
account database.
rick
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RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy
That's interesting, we have no such problem on our SQL servers, CFQUERYPARAM works fine, and every user only has access to their own database. -Original Message- From: John Rossi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 17:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy That's not entirely true. They do not, at least they told me they can't allow me to use cfqueryparam with sql server in shared hosting. Here's the final response I got from them. After further researching the issue(s) at hand, we have determined the following: The line "EXECUTE permission denied on object 'sp_prepexec', database 'master', owner 'dbo'." shows that the database is attempting to work with the master database of the server. Due to this, the cfqueryparam feature will not work within our shared hosting environment SQL (though it should work with a locally controlled Access database). We apologize for any inconvience this may cause in regards to your site deployment. If you have absolute need of this feature, you may wish to consider our Virtual Dedicated or Dedicated server solutions. Bear in mind that these are not managed servers. Previous server administration experience is recommended should you opt to move to one of these solutions. Should you require further assistance on this or any other issue, don't hesitate to contact us any time of the day or night at (480) 505-8877. Or, if you prefer email, you can send your questions or comments to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Drew C. Advanced Hosting Support -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy They guy on the phone just told me that they support all tags out of the box except cfexecute and cfregistry He also said that they will not install custom tags for you, but I can still run it in my own directory, right? ~Brad -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy I would think they would. They had a help section about Coldfusion when they first released it. In fact, if you search this list on the website you should be able to find my post with all of the direct links. -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy I'm on the phone now trying to get a list of restricted tags from them.. Does any one know if they publish that? ~Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Wood Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy Godaddy does CF now? That is cool. I have asked them several times if they plan on hosting CF sites and they have always told me no. My personal site is pretty basic and I have been looking around for some cheap hosting to move it to. Since my domains are already registered with godaddy, I might give their hosting a whirl... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239655 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer
Cfeclipse doesn't require any version of CF to run, it is an IDE. It does support writing code for both CF5 and CFMX though. -Original Message- From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 17:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: ASP.Net book for CF programmer What is the minimum CF version required for CFEclipse? It's probably one of the latest versions, which brings me full circle in this discussion. I run my own CF server, and I'm still using the first version I ever bought...4.5. I've been considering upgrading, but spending the $600 (I thought) was a little much to simply upgrade to the latest version with no pressing project requirements for the capabilities...not to mention the headaches that always accompany an upgrade. Now I find out that to go from 4.5 to 7 will require a full purchase... $1300...so I'm starting to think that my time (without spending any additional money) might be better spent moving to ASP.NET 2.0, where the IDE (Visual Web Developer 2005 Express) is free and SQL Server Express is free (although I currently use MySQL, which is free, so no change monetarily there...and the biggest part is that I don't have to have anything but IIS 6.0 (also free) to run ASP.NET 2.0. So it's a question of whether to stick with CF, which I love, but is costly, especially when developing web apps for offices to use which require the office to purchase a copy of CF and makes my prices have to include the copy of CF and training in admin for them. It's simply a matter of money at this point. I'd much rather code CF, but I can learn aspx / C# if I have to. I learned CF, I can learn ASP... Once I learn it, coding it won't be a big deal. Sure CF is faster, but with good code reuse, it'll be minimum, I think. And, it's not like I'm in a horse race. I'm an independent developer, so I don't have corporate bosses breathing down my neck to finish something in two hours. And for that matter, Flex works with ASP.NET, also, so it's not like I'd be cutting Flex out of my future... I know this will be a "blasphemous" question for some on this list, but is there a good asp.net mailing list I can join to get some insight into what people are facing using asp.net? I don't like forums... This list has been one of the big reasons I've been able to be successful as a CF developer without any classroom training. I just read, work example apps, and ask a *lot* of questions...and people here have always been helpful. Just wish I knew enough to help answer questions... Rick -Original Message- From: Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 12:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer FlexBuilder comes packaged with Eclipse to run as a standalone app, but you can also choose to install the plugin, if you are already using Eclipse for CF/Java work, for instance. Then you just change 'perspectives'. You ought to find some time to download Eclipse and start learning how to configure it, etc. It's really pretty slick and there is a lot of stuff out there for it. I am a newbie myself, coming up to speed, using it for a couple projects. CFEclipse is really coming along (nice job guys). On 5/5/06, Rick Faircloth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks, Jeff, for the info and the updates! > > It's good to know that I won't have to sacrifice two legs and an arm > to get into Flex...just an arm. :o) > > When you say that Flex Builder is built on top of Eclipse, do you mean > Eclipse will be needed separately, or is it just the coding and style > that is similar to Eclipse? > > And I think you're right, although it's a shame, that Flex will have > to be relegated to the "backroom" of app development and not be used > for the "showrooom" until search engine spider compatibility can > somehow be addressed. It would be a shame to use such a powerful tool > in such a limited roll. > > Rick > > > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Fleitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 9:06 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: ASP.Net book for CF programmer > > > The info you are looking at regarding Flex pricing appears to be for > the 1.5version. Unless you buy into Flex Data Services, Flex 2 is > essentially 'free'. Adobe is releasing the SDK for free, which means > that you could build Flex apps with notepad if you were daring enough. > FlexBuilder, which is built on top of Eclipse, will cost somewhere > under $1000 ($999 probably ;). The apps you build (swfs) can be > distributed royalty free, kinda like deploying a Visual Basic 6/FoxPro > app. If you need advanced data services then you buy FDS. It appears > that CFMX folks are going to have a distinct advantage with the data > tier, as least intially. > > I think if you are going to develop Flex apps for a living then > FlexBuilder is a must. Other wise, you can use another editor. I use > PrimalScript routinely, and they will be providing full support for
RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy
If they do this without a security sandbox, then you do realise that all your files can be deleted, copied, edited etc. -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 17:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy They guy on the phone just told me that they support all tags out of the box except cfexecute and cfregistry He also said that they will not install custom tags for you, but I can still run it in my own directory, right? ~Brad -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:31 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy I would think they would. They had a help section about Coldfusion when they first released it. In fact, if you search this list on the website you should be able to find my post with all of the direct links. -Original Message- From: Brad Wood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy I'm on the phone now trying to get a list of restricted tags from them.. Does any one know if they publish that? ~Brad -Original Message- From: Brad Wood Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy Godaddy does CF now? That is cool. I have asked them several times if they plan on hosting CF sites and they have always told me no. My personal site is pretty basic and I have been looking around for some cheap hosting to move it to. Since my domains are already registered with godaddy, I might give their hosting a whirl... ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239653 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy
Its all a bit of a catch22. If a host doesn't allow createObject() then they are more secure, so it's a toss up of whetehr you want to be on a secur ehost or not. The problem is that disabling CreateObject() cripples a lot of functionality, but enabling it allows any lots of insecure activity, such as stealing session info from othe rsites or hijacking sessions. Russ -Original Message- From: Ben Nadel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 16:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion with Godaddy I have not used it, but I think I read that they do not allow CreateObject() method... That alone is a deterent for me... But for simple header/footer include types of sites, its probably nice and cheap. Ben Nadel www.bennadel.com -Original Message- From: Jason Crider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2006 11:53 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Coldfusion with Godaddy Anyone using the coldfusion hosting with godaddy yet? Any opinions on how good the service is? I know about the no custom tags thing. Jason ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239626 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Put yourself on the map
Even funnier considering BORG is the name of my dev server ;-) -Original Message- From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 15:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Put yourself on the map >I guess mailing the smaller group and asking them to join the bigger >group would be the easiest way. > >Neil > >On 5/5/06, Nick Tong - TalkWebSolutions.co.uk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Reading this part of the threat I couldn't help but thinking, "We are CFDevelopers of Borg. Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimilated." hey its Friday. larry -- Larry C. Lyons Web Analyst BEI Resources American Type Culture Collection email: llyons(at)atcc(dot)org tel: 703.365.2700.2678 -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239612 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MySQL deadlocks and timeouts
You need to check what the default is for your database then. If you have multiple queries trying to insert/update at the same time, then you may want to use REPEATABLE_READ, as long as you are sure that simultanious updates/inserts will not affect the integrety. -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 May 2006 15:28 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MySQL deadlocks and timeouts Thanks for the reply Snake. We aren't specifying the isolation level, but doesn't that leave it up to the database default? The odd bit is that there are 162 tables in this system and thousands of queries. There are only two queries ever having any problem and the only thing they share is that they are updating/inserting into one specific table. After I posted the other day, I removed a subquery from the update query and placed it in a separate query which runs before the update. Now I'm not sure if it has actually eliminated the issue and it certainly doesn't seem like it should have done, but I haven't gotten another one of those error emails since I did that. Thanks, Ferg Snake wrote: > What type of isolation are you using in your CFTRANSACTION, if the > answer is none, then you are using SERIALIZABLE by default, which is > the highest level and slowest performance. > This means nothing else can read or write the locked table or rows > until the transaction block has finished and can thus result in the > problem you are having. > If you have other areas of the site that need to read that that data, > then you should use "READ_COMMITTED" isloation. > I would suggest you read the cfdocs and fully understand the use of > cftransaction and isolation levels. > > -- > Snake > > > -Original Message- > From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 03 May 2006 20:54 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: MySQL deadlocks and timeouts > > I'm getting a deadlock error quite frequently on one specific page in > my app. I'm on the latest MX 7 with MySQL 5. > > Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC > Driver][ODBC Socket][MySQL][ODBC 3.51 > Driver][mysqld-4.1.12a-nt-log]Deadlock found when trying to get lock; > try restarting transaction The error occurred on line 732. > > I'm also getting another Lock error on the same page, though not quite > as frequently. > > Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC > Driver][ODBC Socket][MySQL][ODBC 3.51 > Driver][mysqld-4.1.12a-nt-log]Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction The error occurred on line 799. > > > Now the thing is that these are just really simple queries in a > cftransaction (one insert and one update). However, these tables are > accessed from all over the app and I'm sure that's where the problem's > actually coming from. There is some traffic load on the site, but it's > nothing overwhelming. All I'm really wondering is if anyone else has > had any strange locking troubles with MySQL and if so, what you did to work it out. > I'm getting the first one approximately 10 times a day and the second > one maybe half that. These queries are each running maybe 250-300 > times a day, while theses tables are accessed a few thousand times a day. > > Thanks, > --Ferg > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239608 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Put yourself on the map
And cfdeveloper also has one :-) http://www.frappr.com/cfdeveloper -Original Message- From: Crow T. Robot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2006 19:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Put yourself on the map Not to burst your bubble, but we have already started one of these... http://www.frappr.com/cfcommunity Matt Williams wrote: > http://www.frappr.com/cfdevelopers > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239573 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: jrun eating up all cpu resources
Actually this is a better link. http://www.pixl8.co.uk/index.cfm/pcms/site.resources.cfmxtuning/ - snake -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2006 14:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: jrun eating up all cpu resources Where? Slow performance is usually down to code and bad JVM config based on application memory requirements. Have you run VisualGC to see how the application is actually running? JRun itself it also partial to deadlocks, which can be diagnosed with iisstate. -Original Message- From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 May 2006 13:09 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: jrun eating up all cpu resources You can find some info on my blog on this kind of troubleshooting. http://russ.michaels.me.uk/ -- snake On 5/4/06, Mike Soultanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have a ColdFusion development server (standard edition) running and > jrun is running at 100% cpu and we're getting a major slowdown for > page requests. The administrator isn't sure how to debug the problem > so I thought I'd pose the question to list to see if any of you had > any suggestions. I guess what he's really looking for is some way to > debug which application has gone whacky even though it's not > Enterprise... any ideas? -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239498 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: jrun eating up all cpu resources
You can find some info on my blog on this kind of troubleshooting. http://russ.michaels.me.uk/ -- snake On 5/4/06, Mike Soultanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have a ColdFusion development server (standard edition) running and > jrun is running at 100% cpu and we're getting a major slowdown for > page requests. The administrator isn't sure how to debug the problem > so I thought I'd pose the question to list to see if any of you had > any suggestions. I guess what he's really looking for is some way to > debug which application has gone whacky even though it's not > Enterprise... any ideas? -- CFAJAX docs and other useful articles: http://jr-holmes.coldfusionjournal.com/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239479 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFUGs in the UK?
Uk communities and user groups www.ukcfug.org www.cfdeveloper.co.uk http://www.scottishcfug.com/ - snake -Original Message- From: Andy Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2006 22:44 To: CF-Talk Subject: CFUGs in the UK? I have a friend who's in Leicester, UK (close to Birmingham I according to Google) and wanted to know if there's a CFUG anywhere near him. Any of you UK chaps care to point them out for me to pass on to him? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239475 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: MySQL deadlocks and timeouts
What type of isolation are you using in your CFTRANSACTION, if the answer is none, then you are using SERIALIZABLE by default, which is the highest level and slowest performance. This means nothing else can read or write the locked table or rows until the transaction block has finished and can thus result in the problem you are having. If you have other areas of the site that need to read that that data, then you should use "READ_COMMITTED" isloation. I would suggest you read the cfdocs and fully understand the use of cftransaction and isolation levels. -- Snake -Original Message- From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2006 20:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: MySQL deadlocks and timeouts I'm getting a deadlock error quite frequently on one specific page in my app. I'm on the latest MX 7 with MySQL 5. Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][MySQL][ODBC 3.51 Driver][mysqld-4.1.12a-nt-log]Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction The error occurred on line 732. I'm also getting another Lock error on the same page, though not quite as frequently. Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][MySQL][ODBC 3.51 Driver][mysqld-4.1.12a-nt-log]Lock wait timeout exceeded; try restarting transaction The error occurred on line 799. Now the thing is that these are just really simple queries in a cftransaction (one insert and one update). However, these tables are accessed from all over the app and I'm sure that's where the problem's actually coming from. There is some traffic load on the site, but it's nothing overwhelming. All I'm really wondering is if anyone else has had any strange locking troubles with MySQL and if so, what you did to work it out. I'm getting the first one approximately 10 times a day and the second one maybe half that. These queries are each running maybe 250-300 times a day, while theses tables are accessed a few thousand times a day. Thanks, --Ferg ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239474 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Jrun Trial License
Hmm ok must depend on the type of license then. Have u tried restarting jrun since u applied the new key to CFMX -Original Message- From: Matthew Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2006 19:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Jrun Trial License I put the CF license into the the Jrun admin "Update Product Version" license field and it didn't like it. I tried it upper and lower case and with or without dashes. Matt ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239473 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Jrun Trial License
We had the same problem, you can use the same license key for jrun. snake -Original Message- From: Matt Levine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2006 17:58 To: CF-Talk Subject: Jrun Trial License I installed coldfusion 7.01 multi-server edition as a trial. I later got a license and applied it to all of the CF instances that I had created on the box. No problems there. However, I logged into the the JRun admin and saw that the JRun that CF was running on top of was still a trial. I do not have a JRun license. When the JRun trial stops will my coldfusion stop as well? Thanks, Matt Levine Studio Squared 12150 Tributary Point Dr. Suite 140 Gold River, CA 95670 (916) 608-8608 916 962 7272 <http://www.studiosquared.com/> www.studiosquared.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:239400 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
