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Stus-List Bilge pump

2015-03-23 Thread robert via CnC-List


Dwight:

I don't remove the bilge pump and switch during winter storage...what's 
the point when you winterize it/flush/fill it, and the line, with 
antifreeze and then "above the floor boards" "leave the bottom end 
of the pump submerged in the same mix"? Mine is submerged in the 
antifreeze in the bilge without removing it.


Actually, that is not true..my bilge is mostly drythere is the 
occasional backflow of antifreeze from the line but that I sometimes 
soak up with a paper towel.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-03-23 9:26 AM, dwight veinot via CnC-List wrote:
One additional thing that I do; remove my bilge pump and switch to 
above the floor boards during winter storage and flush the pump with a 
50/50 mix of ethylene gycol and water and leave the bottom end of the 
pump submerged in the same mix...I think that helps to keep the pump 
in good shape for next season


Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, */Alianna/*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net 


On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
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Thoughts on bilge pumps.

First, I'm rewiring a boat that has one of those auto switch
pumps.  Every 5 minutes or so it whirs and stops.  Drives me
nuts.  Can't imagine sleeping on a boat with one of those installed.

How I wire a bilge pump.  First, install a Rule 43 3 way bilge
switch in a convenient and protected location.  Power it from one
of the battery connections on the back side of your main battery
switch.  I usually connect it to the house bank.  If you can find
it, Ancor make some nice 14/3 AWG bilge pump cable.  Run that or
two positives and a single negative to the bilge.

Use a round Rule pump of your choice and strap an Ultra Safety
Systems Mini Bilge Pump switch to it.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Safety-Systems-Switch-UPS-06-12/dp/B00CGJS4PQ

You will have a very nice and very reliable bilge pump system.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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Stus-List Bilge pump

2015-03-23 Thread robert via CnC-List


Bob:
From the design you describe of mid-ship deck drains that drain into 
the bilge, it is not only during the winter but whenever these drains 
collect water, they deposit to the bilge.


Not just a winter concern.

Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.


-- Original message--

*From: *Robert Boyer via CnC-List

*Date: *Mon, Mar 23, 2015 11:34

*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>;

*Subject:*Re: Stus-List Bilge pump

The C&C Landfall 38 came from the factory with two mid-ship deck 
drains that drained into the bilge--the other two (aft) deck drains 
drained overboard.  During the winter, these two midship deck drains 
can accumulate a lot of water in the bilge.  So, not all C&C's can 
simply use manually operated bilge pumps (unless you are living aboard 
and pay close attention to the bilge level).  Also, any antifreeze 
mixture in the bilge will get diluted quite quickly.


Bob

On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:16 PM, robert via CnC-List wrote:


Dwight:

I don't remove the bilge pump and switch during winter 
storage...what's the point when you winterize it/flush/fill it, and 
the line, with antifreeze and then "above the floor boards" 
"leave the bottom end of the pump submerged in the same mix"?   
Mine is submerged in the antifreeze in the bilge without removing it.


Actually, that is not true..my bilge is mostly drythere is 
the occasional backflow of antifreeze from the line but that I 
sometimes soak up with a paper towel.


Rob Abbott
AZURA
C&C 32 - 84
Halifax, N.S.



On 2015-03-23 9 :26 AM, dwight veinot via 
CnC-List wrote:
One additional thing that I do; remove my bilge pump and switch to 
above the floor boards during winter storage and flush the pump with 
a 50/50 mix of ethylene gycol and water and leave the bottom end of 
the pump submerged in the same mix...I think that helps to keep the 
pump in good shape for next season


Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, */Alianna/*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net <mailto:d.ve...@bellaliant.net>


On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
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Thoughts on bilge pumps.

First, I'm rewiring a boat that has one of those auto switch
pumps.  Every 5 minutes or so it whirs and stops.  Drives me
nuts.  Can't imagine sleeping on a boat with one of those installed.

How I wire a bilge pump.  First, install a Rule 43 3 way bilge
switch in a convenient and protected location.  Power it from
one of the battery connections on the back side of your main
battery switch.  I usually connect it to the house bank.  If you
can find it, Ancor make some nice 14/3 AWG bilge pump cable. 
Run that or two positives and a single negative to the bilge.


Use a round Rule pump of your choice and strap an Ultra Safety
Systems Mini Bilge Pump switch to it.

http://www.amazon.com/Ultra-Safety-Systems-Switch-UPS-06-12/dp/B00CGJS4PQ

You will have a very nice and very reliable bilge pump system.

Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

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S/V Rainy Days (1983 C&C Landfall 38 - Hull #230)
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Stus-List bilge pump

2015-10-04 Thread Harald Braun via CnC-List

Hi, my wife and I are sailing on a 35ft C&C MK3 and want to replace our bilge 
pump from a rule 500 to a rule 1500, unfortunately the new pump doesn't fit 
right. Has anybody ever enlarged their bilge pump? Any help would be 
appreciated.

Cheers
Harald

www.davenportcatering.com
519-746-0152
519-574-1058 (cell)
25 Years of Great Food Service!



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Stus-List Bilge pump

2019-01-15 Thread Bruno Lachance via CnC-List

Hi,

My Rule 1500 is broken and i'm looking for a replacement. I know some people 
here have a system including the mandatory manual pump, the "main", often 
turbine type  electric pump and a low GPH suction pump to empty the bilge.

I'm not quite there yet, and would just like to get the best "main" electric 
pump that could fit. Is there a better option than the Rule 1500 out there that 
would have about the same footprint ? Whale has a new line but the pump is a 
bit bigger. Could a equivalent capacity diaphragm pump be a choice ? What about 
auto pump with integrated switch, are they reliable ?

My setup includes a Rule float swith that will be replaced with a "water witch" 
switch once broken and i use a check valve. (i know some are against this, aka 
Rule themself).

Thanks.


Bruno Lachance
Bécassine, 33 mkII
new-Richmond, Qc
Canada
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Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-12 Thread Steven Winks

Hi. I have a 34+ and had an unusual thing happen this morning while at anchor. 
I woke to the sound of my electric bilge pump cycling on and off. The bilge was 
full of water. I turned the pump on to drain the bilge and it filled up again 
once the switch was selected to off. I had the same result with the manual 
pump. When I removed the manual bilge pump hose from the bilge and then turned 
on the electric pump again, the bilge stayed dry, so the water must have 
syphoned in via the manual pump discharge. The discharge on this boat lies only 
a few inches above the waterline, but with any weight aft, it is below the 
water. Has anyone else experienced this? I understand check valves are not 
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Stus-List Bilge pump siphon

2013-08-13 Thread Kim Brown

Steven,
Had a similar problem with my Irwin 31 - there the bilge pump discharge was
tee'd into the sink drain.  All is good unless you had a stopper in the sink
then there is no break in the line and a back siphon could set up. Then the
pump (hopefully) kicks in and pumps it out and then it back siphons again ad
infinitum. Took some panic time to figure this out when I came back to the
boat after a night on Duval St. Admittedly my thinking was impaired
With the stopper out the siphon couldn't set up. Solution was to stop doing
dishes.  While high loops are good. you need something to break the
siphon - discharge above the waterline does it; check valve will do it but I
would look at a siphon break like they use for heads to be inserted at the
top of a high loop- less worry about impeding any discharge. And good
practice is to 'cross' hoses. If it runs along port, loop up in the stern
and discharge it to starboard and vice versa that way if you actually are
doing something like sailing one side or the other will be high. 

Kim Brown
Trust ME!!! 35-3 

 Original message 
From: Steven Winks  
Date: 08/12/2013  9:15 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Subject: Stus-List Bilge pump siphon 
 
Hi. I have a 34+ and had an unusual thing happen this morning while at
anchor. I woke to the sound of my electric bilge pump cycling on and off.
The bilge was full of water. I turned the pump on to drain the bilge and it
filled up again once the switch was selected?to off. I had the same result
with the manual pump. When I removed the manual bilge pump hose from the
bilge and then turned on the electric pump again, the bilge stayed dry, so
the water must have syphoned in via the manual pump discharge. The discharge
on this boat lies only a few inches above the waterline, but with any weight
aft, it is below the water. Has anyone else experienced this? I understand
check valves are not recommended. Thanks for any advice.



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Stus-List bilge pump switch

2013-03-31 Thread Marek Dziedzic

Hi,

I think there was long discussion on that a while back.

I have to install a bilge pump switch. Any opinions on Water Witch
(http://waterwitchinc.com/online_cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&produ
cts_id=5 ) (and any other solid state switch)?

Thanks

Marek (in Ottawa)
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Stus-List Bilge Pump Cleaning

2014-05-26 Thread Rich Knowles via CnC-List

My  bilge pump and I had a small altercation this weekend. It’s a 2000 gph PAR 
unit that I have had on the boat for at least 10 years. It has never given me 
problems until it recently decided not to pump any water. The motor ran just 
fine, and I could see the water in the bilge being stirred around, but nothing 
was being sent overboard. It acted as though it had an airlock with the 
impeller only partially submerged.

I dismantled it and found that the small slit that acts as an air vent at the 
top of the plastic impeller housing  was completely plugged. This prevented any 
trapped air from escaping from the pump body. Once I cleaned the crud out of 
the vent slit, it performed as new. Good for another ten years, thank you.

Just a note to tuck away in case anyone has a similar “failure”.

Rich Knowles
INDIGO LF38
Halifax, NS.






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Stus-List Bilge pump installation

2014-05-27 Thread Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List

I had a Rule automatic pump where the water level is determined by
impellers' resistance to turning or motor load. Mine ran 24/7 because the
bilge crud would foul the impeller and create enough resistance to fool it
into permanently sensing water in the bilge. Cleaning the Impeller /
flushing the bilge was a very temporary fix as more crud always seemed to
re-appear.

For the switch:
I ended up going with Water Witch switch
https://www.waterwitchinc.com/new/SiteElements/Pages/SecondaryPages/Products/BilgeSwitches.html
It's an electronic switch but it's known as the best. They are
warrantied for 7 years and are used by the Coast Guard. So far it's been
flawless.

For the Pump.
I went for a manual switch version Johnson 750 GPH. That's the largest
pump I could get into the little sump area my boat has for a pump.

I had to do away with the one way valve as it was not priming / flowing
efficiently so it burps back about 2 cups of water into the sump when It's
done pumping.. I can live with that and so far it's been very reliable.

I would like to add a diaphragm type pump with it's own through hull
connected to a high water sensor as a backup one day but that's pretty far
down the priority list..

As I am writing this my desk feels like it's heaving as I spent the long
weekend on the boat :-)

-Francois
1990 34+ "Take Five"
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