Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Jack Suggs wrote: (FYI, I have some apps that were released during System 7 that work in Classic mode under 10.4.11). This is a screen shot of the classic OS 6 game Shufflepuck, running under OS X http://dbdev2.pharmacy.arizona.edu/miscjunk/howcompatible.jpg (it was renamed by a friends kid ages ago, from the day when I was running it on my Mac plus...) Pretty freakin' amazing. (and it would run today, on my quad core i7 iMac, under SheepShaverif I retrieved it off my old backups.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
My emac 700Mhz works ok for tiger for web browsing and watching videos and playing old games. I know 256 meg of ram is extremely minimum for tiger especially if you want to do editing. Ilife 06, Imovie, garageband runs very sluggish on a emac 700Mhz with 256 meg of ram. Running Ilife 06, imovie 06, garage band, iphoto, safari, itunes, at the same time, this mac slows down allot. I usually run 1 or 2 apps at a time no more than 3 or 4 or especially heavy apps. im not interested going back to pre mac os x 10.4 tiger. I tried mac os x 10.3 panther it ran much slower than 10.4 tiger. Do you Know any one who owns an emac 700 with 1gig of ram? Joshua Lewis -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I actually forgot about this. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? Aside from all the folks without access to broadband, there's this quaint form of paper/electronic hybrid communications called 'faxes' :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs The FAX is usually a more accurate method for my invoicing because everyone in the worldwide industry I belong to has to have FAX capabilities. Some use a paperless computer system but most still have the original machines plus most of the time a paper FAX is read as it falls on the floor. It's an annoying sheet starring at the payable officer on the desk where as an email is easily and conveniently set aside with all the usual excuses like the computer system was down on the day we cut checks) :-) I have a record that the FAX was received but no way of knowing the the email got there. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 8, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Dennis Faulkner wrote: I only upgraded to Cox high-speed when Cox played dirty pool, raised my second phone line to $10 per month, and claimed they couldn't fix that line - to me, my dial-up had a pretty fast phone line, and the economy of dial-up through fastermac.net made it worth it - I have not been overly impressed with Cox high-speed - most of the time not a big difference in speed on the sites I visit. Dennis If you have cable availible it will run circles around any phone system In my expierence a DSL modem gets real slow the more computers that sign on. I'm spoiled with Time Warner Talladega Fast Turbo on a Netgear N speed router. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my machines the Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution. In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer in the kitchen, a G5. One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both a built in modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached. Whenever we upgrade it to an intel I'll have to figure another solution. Or stop faxing. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I use the Apple USB modem on all my Intel machines it FAX's just the same as the PPC's JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
I'm sorry, but I'm afraid that I am. Modems are also great back up if you lose your DSL/Cable/Satellite. There are some very, very good modems still being made. Just my two cents. Peace, Virgil Fritz. _AllnightVi@aol.com_ (mailto:allnigh...@aol.com) In a message dated 11/8/2011 8:22:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, cm...@sonic.net writes: On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my machines the Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution. In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer in the kitchen, a G5. One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both a built in modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached. Whenever we upgrade it to an intel I'll have to figure another solution. Or stop faxing. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Bad logic board?
On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:56 PM, John Carmonne wrote: I have a iMac Core Duo 20 2.0 that did a kernel panic and I couldn't get it to boot any external drives I tried a 10.5 DVD installer and I could hear it spinning but the keyboard wasn't responding due to the dead ports. All the ports had no power but some times after trying to zap PRAM the Apple would come on and then back to the kernel panic it wouldn't chime and I got no lights on the keyboard. When I pressed the power button it would light up then fade away. So I had to get this thing back on line fast so I replaced the logic board. Then someone told me it may have been the RAM. Bad RAM wouldn't cause the USB ports to be unpowered. It can cause all sorts of issues, but that's not one of them. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
I gave my grandson an eMac 700mhz with 1 gb RAM running 10.4.11 when he was 10, now he's 12 and the eMac still runs great, never had a problem. He uses it online (mostly Facebook), with GarageBand (iLife 2005 version), and with his iPod Shuffle. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On 11/8/11 6:02 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 6:48 AM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I actually forgot about this. On Tue, Nov 8, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Bruce Johnson john...@pharmacy.arizona.edu wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? Aside from all the folks without access to broadband, there's this quaint form of paper/electronic hybrid communications called 'faxes' :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs The FAX is usually a more accurate method for my invoicing because everyone in the worldwide industry I belong to has to have FAX capabilities. Some use a paperless computer system but most still have the original machines plus most of the time a paper FAX is read as it falls on the floor. It's an annoying sheet starring at the payable officer on the desk where as an email is easily and conveniently set aside with all the usual excuses like the computer system was down on the day we cut checks) :-) I have a record that the FAX was received but no way of knowing the the email got there. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 Have you tried turning on receipt required in your email program? ie: (firefox) Prefs/advaned/return receipts/ check: when sending messages always request a return receipt -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
Bump the RAM to 1GB and it will be a smooth ride. On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 10:58 AM, MACMAN joshantiq...@gmail.com wrote: I Just want to get peoples opinium on the emac 700Mhz The emac i use specs powerpc G4 700mhz 256 megs of sdram 40 gig hard drive CD rom only, no modem OS, mac os x 10.4.11 and mac os 9.2.2 Joshua Lewis -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: The ram is really low, especially for Tiger. The hard drive is fine for simple web browsing. The CD-ROM is a big setback since most programs and such now come on DVDs and the modem isn't needed at all. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On 11/6/11 10:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? Mark, you may not be in dialup land yourself, but going into 2012, there are still plenty of places in my area where that is all that is available. Beverly -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? Aside from all the folks without access to broadband, there's this quaint form of paper/electronic hybrid communications called 'faxes' :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On 2011/11/06 20:31, Mark Sokolovsky so eloquently wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? For some people, rural areas mostly, dialup is the only hardwired connection available to them. There is satellite but you have to have visibility of the satellite, it's expensive, and can be unreliable for a number of reasons. You might say it is quirky. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
As a retired editor who never got less than an A in spelling in school, I'd just like to state that Opinium is not the way the word opinion is spelled. That's just in case someone, somewhere gets the mistaken impression that Opinium is correct because it's in print (so to speak) and thus far has been unchallenged in this thread. My opinion is that an eMac with 700 MHz and 1 GB of RAM running OS 10.4.11 with all updates is about as slow as I would choose to go with a Mac on the internet. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:11 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Jim Scott wrote: As a retired editor who never got less than an A in spelling in school, I'd just like to state that Opinium is not the way the word opinion is spelled. That's just in case someone, somewhere gets the mistaken impression that Opinium is correct because it's in print (so to speak) and thus far has been unchallenged in this thread. Perhaps he's merely searching for the soothing narcotic effect of getting other's opinions on the matter :-P Ah so. Sort of like the difference between plain ole aluminum and high-falutin' aluminium? :^) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
I only upgraded to Cox high-speed when Cox played dirty pool, raised my second phone line to $10 per month, and claimed they couldn't fix that line - to me, my dial-up had a pretty fast phone line, and the economy of dial-up through fastermac.net made it worth it - I have not been overly impressed with Cox high-speed - most of the time not a big difference in speed on the sites I visit. Dennis -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my machines the Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution. In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer in the kitchen, a G5. One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both a built in modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached. Whenever we upgrade it to an intel I'll have to figure another solution. Or stop faxing. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Raid on iMac
On 2011/11/08 08:02, JOHN CARMONNE so eloquently wrote: My son and I have a new iMac 27 Core i5 with Thunderbolt and FW 800. He does training videos for a big company that demands quick turnaround I'm wondering if I get him a RAID system would FW800 be really fast or is Thunder Bolt fast enough to justify the very high price. Also I f we go with the RAID how do we configure where the applications reside along with the raw data, do we put the entire system on the RAID and boot from it or boot from the internal drive and have all the applications and video data on the RAID? I'll take a shot at this and somebody can correct me if I'm wrong. Thunderbolt would be the fastest connection, but only you can decide if it's worth the money and once the data gets to your iMac the speed gain *might* be lost. Next would be eSata though I don't know anything about using eSata with a Mac, or if you even can; and then FW 800. USB 3 is supposed to be pretty fast but compatibility with Macs can be a problem so I wouldn't recommend it. Once the apps are launched they don't need a lot of bandwidth themselves to run, it's the read/write of the video that is time consuming. You will probably want SATA 6.0Gb/s drives for your RAID, set up in a 'striped' configuration. With more HDDs you can set up the RAID to be striped for speed and mirrored for redundancy. Wikipedia has a good entry for all the various types of RAID arrays here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_array Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
On 11/8/11 7:22 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:14 AM, JohnCarmonne wrote: On Nov 6, 2011, at 7:31 PM, Mark Sokolovsky wrote: I am rather to question as to why modems were placed on any machines after 2003 at all. It's not like we are still dealing with dial-up anymore, are we? I FAX 80% of my invoices to my customers so I need a modem on my machines the Apple USB with FaxPro is my solution. In addition to everyone having a laptop we have a joint, family computer in the kitchen, a G5. One of it's uses is for sending faxes as it has both a built in modem and an HP scanner / printer / copier attached. Whenever we upgrade it to an intel I'll have to figure another solution. Or stop faxing. I thought all the aio's had fax capability. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic
So your conclusion -- nothing is impossible -- is that I was actually running iTunes 9.2.1? On Nov 6, 2011, at 2:06 AM, imaclist@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/topics iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11) [1 Update] iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11) Dan dantear...@gmail.com Nov 05 01:18PM -0400 At 9:19 AM -0500 11/3/2011, ZEKE wrote: I used a known Internet link to re-grab iTunes 9.2.1 and, now, it says my computer must be a G4 or greater. It worked, before... No, it didn't. iTunes 8.2.1 is the final release that *officially* supports G3 Macs. iTunes 9.1.1 is the actual last release that runs on G3 Macs. http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1036 - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group imaclist. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist +unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/ group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Greetings, You need to get a copy of xpostfactor see below, it fools the installer into thinking that your processor meets the 833Mhz requirement for installation. http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7594/xpostfacto Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Nov 3, 7:19 am, ZEKE sansuig900...@gmail.com wrote: Everything ran great but I developed a HD error and -- because I only use this as a music server -- I just reinstalled everything from DVD. I used a known Internet link to re-grab iTunes 9.2.1 and, now, it says my computer must be a G4 or greater. It worked, before... Ideas? I need that version because it syncs with my other computers that use it. Grr. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
On Nov 6, 2011, at 8:57 AM, gifutiger wrote: Greetings, You need to get a copy of xpostfactor see below, it fools the installer into thinking that your processor meets the 833Mhz requirement for installation. http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7594/xpostfacto No that's not what XPostFacto does…It lets you run OS X on unsupported machines. You're thinking of Leopard Assist http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/26562/leopardassist but that's only useful for installing 10.5 not installing this version of iTunes... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Well guess what. My G3 PowerMac works with iTunes 9.2.1 On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Dan dantear...@gmail.com wrote: At 9:19 AM -0500 11/3/2011, ZEKE wrote: I used a known Internet link to re-grab iTunes 9.2.1 and, now, it says my computer must be a G4 or greater. It worked, before... No, it didn't. iTunes 8.2.1 is the final release that *officially* supports G3 Macs. iTunes 9.1.1 is the actual last release that runs on G3 Macs. http://support.apple.com/kb/**dl1036 http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1036 - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/**socialmedia/zombies_blog.asphttp://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Funny thing is, I never used Xpostfacto for it to work on my machine. On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 10:57 AM, gifutiger gifuti...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, You need to get a copy of xpostfactor see below, it fools the installer into thinking that your processor meets the 833Mhz requirement for installation. http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/7594/xpostfacto Cheers Harry San Jose, Ca ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Nov 3, 7:19 am, ZEKE sansuig900...@gmail.com wrote: Everything ran great but I developed a HD error and -- because I only use this as a music server -- I just reinstalled everything from DVD. I used a known Internet link to re-grab iTunes 9.2.1 and, now, it says my computer must be a G4 or greater. It worked, before... Ideas? I need that version because it syncs with my other computers that use it. Grr. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: emac 700Mhz Opinium
The ram is really low, especially for Tiger. The hard drive is fine for simple web browsing. The CD-ROM is a big setback since most programs and such now come on DVDs and the modem isn't needed at all. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
At 9:19 AM -0500 11/3/2011, ZEKE wrote: I used a known Internet link to re-grab iTunes 9.2.1 and, now, it says my computer must be a G4 or greater. It worked, before... No, it didn't. iTunes 8.2.1 is the final release that *officially* supports G3 Macs. iTunes 9.1.1 is the actual last release that runs on G3 Macs. http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1036 - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
On Nov 3, 2011, at 10:30 PM, Tina K. wrote: On 2011/11/03 13:03, W.Adrian D'Alessio so eloquently wrote: No cord ? I think that was meant to be No chord. No card at startup might also be a serious issue if the critical electronics weren't integrated into the motherboard. On the other hand, no cordite at startup is a good thing, as it prevents bombs. Then there's no curd at startup... but I think I've already milked this for all it's worth. :-) Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: 17'' 800 G4 iMac, suddenly no video
On Nov 3, 2011, at 11:53 PM, a1 wrote: So what are the standard steps for this situation. iMac was on, I came back in the room and the screen was utterly black. Rest of computer seems to respond i.e boots, cd drawer opens, even seems to go into sleep mode and wake. But no video. Hope this isn't fatal since its my fave mac! If you shine a bright light onto the screen while the iMac is running, do you see faint video images? If the answer is yes, then you most likely have a bad inverter, which is inside the LCD case. If the answer is no, then either the LCD died (unlikely) or there are one or more broken wires inside the neck (likely and not uncommon). It's also possible the LVDS cable came loose from its connector on the logic board, but that's highly unlikely unless the iMac has been opened up recently. You also could have a combination of bad inverter and broken/shorted wires inside the neck. If you get video on an external monitor, then you know the video chip's OK. If not, then you're looking at a loose video chip which means logic board replacement. HTH, Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: 17'' 800 G4 iMac, suddenly no video
On Nov 4, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 11:53 PM, a1 wrote: So what are the standard steps for this situation. iMac was on, I came back in the room and the screen was utterly black. Rest of computer seems to respond i.e boots, cd drawer opens, even seems to go into sleep mode and wake. But no video. Hope this isn't fatal since its my fave mac! If you shine a bright light onto the screen while the iMac is running, do you see faint video images? If the answer is yes, then you most likely have a bad inverter, which is inside the LCD case. Or a failed backlight bulb, also inside the LCD case. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: 17'' 800 G4 iMac, suddenly no video
What OS is it running? The very first version of Mac OS X 10.5 is prone to whiting or blacking out the screen due to incompatible screen drivers that came with it. This was fixed with Mac OS X 10.5.3. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 2:53 AM, a1 arichic...@gmail.com wrote: So what are the standard steps for this situation. iMac was on, I came back in the room and the screen was utterly black. Rest of computer seems to respond i.e boots, cd drawer opens, even seems to go into sleep mode and wake. But no video. Hope this isn't fatal since its my fave mac! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Lion on 2008 24imac
And the extra 1 hour to first install SL and then Lion isn't worth a lousy $10 to you? cjc On 04/11/2011, at 10:03 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Recently acquired an awesome 24 imac... came with 10.5.8... how hard will it be to upgrade to lion? Mildly annoying. You will need to 'borrow' a copy of 10.6 to update to 10.6.8 so you can download the 10.7 install from the App Store. Apple sells 10.7 for more money on a USB thumb drive http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY, which I think will remove the necessity for upgrading to 10.6, but since that's $70, and buying 10.6 apple plus 10.7 from the Mac App store is $60...it's cheaper to go the annoying route... http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDAzOA 10.6 $29.99 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-lion/id444303913?mt=12 10.7 $29.99 Note that the QA associated with the thumb drive above seems to indicate that you CAN do a new install of 10.7 with the thumb drive, just not an update, so if you have a backup (either Time Machine or CCC or other) of your data, Migration Assistant will handle moving your data over. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Lion on 2008 24imac
On Nov 4, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Collins wrote: And the extra 1 hour to first install SL and then Lion isn't worth a lousy $10 to you? cjc That truly depends on my time constraints. Installing SL actually takes about ten minutes of my time. It takes an hour of the *computer's* time, but I could be out in the workshop/playing with the dogs/watching a movie/cooking dinner, etc... (and if you do it right, and copy your SL install disk to a usb stick, it takes even less time: http://www.maciverse.com/install-os-x-snow-leopard-from-usb-flash-drive.html This boots and installs MUCH faster, saved me considerable time when I had 10 Macbooks to nuke and pave a while back) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
On 2011/11/02 18:14, Bruce Hazzard so eloquently wrote: Hi, I am hoping someone has a answer. When I start up my iMac I hear no cord. It seems to run find. But there is no reassuring cord. Can someone help me. Thanks Bruce Hazzard You are referring to the start-up chime or bong, correct? I've had Macs that didn't have an audible bong at start-up and I never did figure out why. But I never had any problems with my non-bonging Macs so I didn't obsess over it. There are also some apps that let you set the start-up bong to be silent, perhaps someone has done that along the way? Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 13 Messages in 4 Topics
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Re: No cord at start up.
Greetings Bruce, The startup chime is meant to indicate that the boot prom has run a quick and dirty memory test on the installed memory and the test has passed. If there isn't a chime the memory didn't pass the test. Therefor you should obtain a copy of Memtest. Download Memtest The testing setup isn’t terribly complex; I’ve taken the liberty of putting together an installable package which will put the Memtest utility into your /usr/bin/ folder. Memtest is a Unix command-line program that does the memory testing, and is the Mac equivalent of MemTest86. Cheers, Harry San Jose, Ca ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?ºº?ø,¸¸,ø?º?ø On Nov 2, 5:14 pm, Bruce Hazzard udi...@verizon.net wrote: Hi, I am hoping someone has a answer. When I start up my iMac I hear no cord. It seems to run find. But there is no reassuring cord. Can someone help me. Thanks Bruce Hazzard -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
On Nov 3, 2011, at 9:55 AM, gifutiger wrote: Greetings Bruce, The startup chime is meant to indicate that the boot prom has run a quick and dirty memory test on the installed memory and the test has passed. If there isn't a chime the memory didn't pass the test. Not the case, not if it runs. If the memory doesn't pass the test there's a different 'breaking glass' sound and the system does not continue booting. The OP's problem is that the startup chime has been silenced, not that the memory (and other things, the Mac's startup sequence tests other parts of the hardware before issuing the startup chime.) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Have you seen this... http://support.apple.com/kb/TA20533?viewlocale=en_US -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Umm...Zeke is referring to iTunes not Mac OS. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Oops, I copied the wrong link. http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1056 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
Ignore my useless links, sorry. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iTunes 9.2.1 and 700 Mhz G3 iMac (OS 10.4.11)
When I had iTunes 9.2.1 on my iMac G3, it worked because my installation was off of a machine of which was running a G4 processor. I transplanted it to the iMac G3, installed iTunes, and it worked like that. When you try to install iTunes on a supported OS version but an unsupported processor, install the OS on a supported processor, then transplant it to the older system. Works every time. On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: Umm...Zeke is referring to iTunes not Mac OS. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
No cord ? I do not know what G Mac needs one but replacements are easily found. http://mdg.ext.msstate.edu/small_engine_parts_id/external_images/starter_rope.jpg -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Lion on 2008 24imac
As long as this is a Core 2 Duo or newer and has at lease (I believe) 2 gigs of ram it'll be quite simple. The Core Duo's can run Lion do to a lack of 64-bit support and a PowerPC can't run even Snow Leopard. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Lion on 2008 24imac
On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Recently acquired an awesome 24 imac... came with 10.5.8... how hard will it be to upgrade to lion? Mildly annoying. You will need to 'borrow' a copy of 10.6 to update to 10.6.8 so you can download the 10.7 install from the App Store. Apple sells 10.7 for more money on a USB thumb drive http://store.apple.com/us/product/MD256Z/A?mco=MTY3ODQ5OTY, which I think will remove the necessity for upgrading to 10.6, but since that's $70, and buying 10.6 apple plus 10.7 from the Mac App store is $60...it's cheaper to go the annoying route... http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC573Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDAzOA 10.6 $29.99 http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/os-x-lion/id444303913?mt=12 10.7 $29.99 Note that the QA associated with the thumb drive above seems to indicate that you CAN do a new install of 10.7 with the thumb drive, just not an update, so if you have a backup (either Time Machine or CCC or other) of your data, Migration Assistant will handle moving your data over. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
First, The computer is plugged in. I did try zapping the pram and that worked. Thank You for your help. On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, I am hoping someone has a answer. When I start up my iMac I hear no cord. It seems to run find. But there is no reassuring cord. Can someone help me. Thanks Bruce Hazzard No cord? No start. Plug in a power cord, and it should start. Then you'll hear a chord. :^) If not, try several PRAM starts. Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, I am hoping someone has a answer. When I start up my iMac I hear no cord. It seems to run find. But there is no reassuring cord. Can someone help me. Thanks Bruce Hazzard On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:22 PM, Jim Scott wrote: No cord? No start. Plug in a power cord, and it should start. Then you'll hear a chord. :^) If not, try several PRAM starts. Jim On Nov 3, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: First, The computer is plugged in. I did try zapping the pram and that worked. Thank You for your help. You're welcome. I work on a lot of iMacs. The no-chime symptom usually is an indication that your PRAM battery is weak, particularly if the iMac's been unplugged for a while. Check the battery with a voltmeter and replace with a new one if it's below the voltage printed on the battery (3 V or 2.6 V). Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Lion on 2008 24imac
On Nov 3, 2011, at 2:23 PM, Ben Kernan wrote: Recently acquired an awesome 24 imac... came with 10.5.8... how hard will it be to upgrade to lion? Ben Kernan graphite g-4 1gig/400/52, iPhone-Dedicated Mac user since 1990 It will install easy but I'd be sure to make a backup of your system first. I went back to SL till I could get comfortable with the lack of Rosetta to run a lot of older programs that I need for my business. It's a good argument for dual booting.:-) And there are still a couple of annoying features in Lion I wish would be addressed by Apple like the desktop restoring that slows it down. JOHN CARMONNE Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA From TiBook 867 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
On 2011/11/03 13:03, W.Adrian D'Alessio so eloquently wrote: No cord ? I think that was meant to be No chord. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stuck RAM
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: There are clips on the side you push outwards, correct? I've never seen stuck ram before. The clips are up and I've worked on a lot of iMacs and have seen several with ram that just wont budge. I was hoping for a solution other that taking a chance with the pliers. John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 USA MacPro 2.66 Quad Nehalem -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac Virus?
One question, is this trojan universal code or Intel/PowerPC only? On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting, I didn't know there was anything for Linux, that is something I just learned. I wonder how long it is until there is a new version of SAM... -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac Virus?
On Oct 27, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Thunder 1 wrote: Everyone might want to check this out. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45053071/ns/technology_and_science-security/#.Tqmfr2BNxqN Sigh. This is not a trojan. This is a piece of DDOS software which has interfaces to do other things (like run any bash command you want...). It's not weaponized, you have to seek it out and download it because you want to be a 1334 h4x0r like Anonymous so you grab any old skriptkiddie file you can find and install it. The big whoop: it's been compiled to run on OS X! scary voice Whoo!/sv Probably by the deep and astonicshingly complicated formula of : ./configure make sudo make install Only the 1334est of the 1334 B1FF!! h4x0rz know this sekrit incantation!! (see the B1FF entry here for the full story...http://www.suslik.org/Humour/Computer/Internet/nl1.html, and I'll note, for the record, that my Kibo number is 1.) There's another alert out for malware stuffed into a pirated copy of Graphic Converter (which is really REALLY dumb. Do you want to use GC forever without ever paying? Just put up with the 30 second delay when you launch it. That's it. It's better all around if you pay for it, because Thorsten is a giant in the Mac software world, but there's no need whatsoever to pirate it.) Both are being hyped maximally by the AV and windoid security folks: OMIGOD! DINT I TELL YOU! DINT I TELL YOU FOR THE LAST 15 YEARS EVENTUALLY THAT DAMN WOLF HAD TO SHOW UP!!! They will go the way of all Mac malware: as minor curiosities in the history of malware, maybe even seen a handful of times in the wild. The one single most important thing you can do to secure your Mac is to turn of the single greatest security hole in OS X: Uncheck Safari's Open 'safe' files after downloading in the preferences. Out of the box, OS X has no services available from the outside; every box in the sharing control panel is unchecked. No, you will not get a virus form email. No, if your computer is acting funky it is not because of a virus. No, you cannot 'inadvertently' give some PC user a virus, it would have to be a delberate act on both your parts. Additionally, if that PC user does not have active and up-to-date av/as software, they're already infected. No, you really don't need to run av software on your Mac, and if a web page ever does pop up claiming you have one, (presuming you've done what I've said about turning off that Safari pref) laugh at them and close the window. If you absolutely MUST run AV software, at LEAST don't pad the wallets of the AV charlatans with your hard-earned dollars, use ClamXAv http://www.clamxav.com/ Don't download software from anyplace that isn't the software authors home page. (well, or the Mac App store, if you want. It is safe, but not downloading from there is a political act, not a security one) So no Softpedia, Cnet, etc blah blah blah of the stupid software aggregators. Any software author worth her salt will include the web page in the About info, or under the Help menu. And don't steal it. There's never a reason to steal software, because there's always a free or cheaper alternative out there somewhere. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stuck RAM
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:21 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: There are clips on the side you push outwards, correct? I've never seen stuck ram before. The clips are up and I've worked on a lot of iMacs and have seen several with ram that just wont budge. I was hoping for a solution other that taking a chance with the pliers. It's a mechanical problem and that requires a mechanical solution. Or you can try some of the late Steve's magical thinking. Some RAM manufacturers don't adhere to size standards as religiously as they should, which is why you're looking at a too-tight interference fit that requires a brute force resolution. HTH, Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stuck RAM
On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:21 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: There are clips on the side you push outwards, correct? I've never seen stuck ram before. The clips are up and I've worked on a lot of iMacs and have seen several with ram that just wont budge. I was hoping for a solution other that taking a chance with the pliers. Use two pair, and grasp the corners of the SO-DIMM. If you want to be mildly insane, and have a trustworthy assistant, hold it upside down in the air, grasp the SO-DIMMS and let the weight of the computer dislodge it. Your assistant should catch the computer; and this is less likely to twist the socket or SO-DIMM in the process. (basically remove the iMac from the so-dimm, rather than the other way 'round.) Don't laugh, I once removed a 3 CD from the slot loader by holding one sideways and shaking itgot enough of the disc to stick out that I could grab it with forceps. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stuck RAM
On 2011/11/02 15:25, Bruce Johnson so eloquently wrote: Don't laugh, I once removed a 3 CD from the slot loader Sorry, I had to laugh anyway. But not at you. :-) Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
Ok, I think I'm finally killing this thread. I've gone into the FIOS 424 router and have tried every iteration of WPA settings available. Nothing will work. WEP works fine, but I don't want to leave the entire network at the WEP level. All this is frustrating, and odd, as I can connect to my Airport Express via WPA without problem. It is the 424 that I cannot connect to. So, I'm off to rethink my network topology. Maybe something that will incorporate the AE as an access point. Just in case, here is the error the 424 gives me. Does anyone recognize it? The password you entered is not correct for the AirPort network Galaxy. Which is utterly odd, as I can see the password I'm typing in and it matches what the router is showing me. :( Doug On Oct 22, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Dan wrote: On Oct 20, 8:39 pm, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: The current FIOS router will only do b/g/n or b/g, there is no b only mode... You shouldn't need to limit the 424, but ... Go to Wireless Settings Advanced Security Settings. Under the heading Level 3, there is an item for 802.11 Mode. Click that, and it will offer a pop-up. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stuck RAM
Hopefully this isn't what is happening for you, but I removed a ram chip out of a G4 iMac, and it didn't want to budge either. The problem was that the chip appeared to be corroded into place! Don't know how that happened. I did get it out, and cleaned the slot with a tiny bit of rubbing alcohol, and put a different chip back in. -Jonas -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stuck RAM
On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Jim Scott wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:21 PM, John Carmonne wrote: On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: There are clips on the side you push outwards, correct? I've never seen stuck ram before. The clips are up and I've worked on a lot of iMacs and have seen several with ram that just wont budge. I was hoping for a solution other that taking a chance with the pliers. It's a mechanical problem and that requires a mechanical solution. Or you can try some of the late Steve's magical thinking. Some RAM manufacturers don't adhere to size standards as religiously as they should, which is why you're looking at a too-tight interference fit that requires a brute force resolution. HTH, Jim Brute force it will be, I just installed a MOBO in this machine and I really didn't pay attention to the slots being tight. But the magical thinking is an option. Snky:-) John Carmonne Yorba Linda CA 92886 From iMac Core Duo 2.0 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: No cord at start up.
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Re: No cord at start up.
On Nov 2, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, I am hoping someone has a answer. When I start up my iMac I hear no cord. It seems to run find. But there is no reassuring cord. Can someone help me. Thanks Bruce Hazzard No cord? No start. Plug in a power cord, and it should start. Then you'll hear a chord. :^) If not, try several PRAM starts. Jim -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
Success - finally!!! But only because I've turned off wireless on the FIOS router and have hung a wireless DLink off one of the FIOS's wired LAN ports. So, the original airport card, in a G3 iMac will support WPA!!! Thanks for everyone's patience and suggestions! Doug -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac Virus?
Interesting, I didn't know there was anything for Linux, that is something I just learned. I wonder how long it is until there is a new version of SAM... -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport card
On Oct 29, 2011, at 5:04 PM, John Carmonne wrote: The original AirPort card will not take a WPA so I just turn off encryption on mine when I need to use one. That's categorically false. I had my old pismo set up with WPA; as others have stated in this thread, you have to make sure your router supports the limited WPA modes that the original Airport card works with. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac Virus?
On 10/27/11 1:38 PM, Thunder 1 wrote: Everyone might want to check this out. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45053071/ns/technology_and_science-security/#.Tqmfr2BNxqN Sopos must of wrote it to sell more A/V software. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Digest for imaclist@googlegroups.com - 2 Messages in 1 Topic
test On Oct 30, 2011, at 3:22 AM, imaclist@googlegroups.com wrote: Today's Topic Summary Group: http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist/topics Airport card [2 Updates] Airport card Eric Volker evol...@gmail.com Oct 29 01:16PM -0500 I've got a few older routers around the house that I'd like to try out. I am guessing they'll be hit or miss too. Once we sort that out, all that's really left will be to determine which parts of the network will go. But at least we know the wireless card is good for the old iMac!!! :) Doug This is a bit of a long shot, but I seem to recall a discussion on this list how certain Airport devices only support TKIP (or was it AES?) encryption. Have you tried looking on the FIOS router to determine which encryption type it's set to for WPA? If it's set for one, I'd try toggling it to the other and see if your Airport will talk to it. Eric D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net Oct 29 04:36PM -0700 I'm pretty sure I've hit all the permutations that my FIOS router can do. The only luck I've had is with encryption turned off or with WEP. Was really hoping to at least make WPA. Doug On Oct 29, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Eric Volker wrote: You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group imaclist. You can post via email. To unsubscribe from this group, send an empty message. For more options, visit this group. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport card
I'm pretty sure I've hit all the permutations that my FIOS router can do. The only luck I've had is with encryption turned off or with WEP. Was really hoping to at least make WPA. Doug On Oct 29, 2011, at 11:16 AM, Eric Volker wrote: This is a bit of a long shot, but I seem to recall a discussion on this list how certain Airport devices only support TKIP (or was it AES?) encryption. Have you tried looking on the FIOS router to determine which encryption type it's set to for WPA? If it's set for one, I'd try toggling it to the other and see if your Airport will talk to it. Eric -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport card
At 9:27 PM -0700 10/22/2011, D. Fabel wrote: The router I have is an Actiontec MI-424WR. I was hoping I could get it set up to run WPA with the airport card in my G3 iMac, but I've had no such luck... The 424 works just fine with Airport cards. Start with the basics. Turn on the SSID. Turn off all encryption - both WEP and WPA. Make sure the Mac can connect and talk thru it properly. Then enable WEP, and make sure the Mac can talk. Then disable WEP and enable WPA, etc. One step at a time. If you're unable to do those steps, then show us what you've got. Show us the Airport settings and the router's settings... - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac no show
I would ask for my money back, could be lots of different things many not good. Have you done a clean install of the software? And did software update ever offer anything? I think G4's can run 10.5.x Kim Hanson On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: I would get a can of compressed air and blow out the inside, then pull out the ram chip and blow out the slot. This can help clean up some contacts that may be blocked by dust. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac no show
Thanks, will try report back captJ On Oct 20, 12:39 am, Christopher Satterfield christopher1...@gmail.com wrote: I would get a can of compressed air and blow out the inside, then pull out the ram chip and blow out the slot. This can help clean up some contacts that may be blocked by dust. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport card
At 6:01 PM -0700 10/22/2011, D. Fabel wrote: We've determined we can connect to some, but not all WPA networks. If our Airport Express is hosting the network (or other Apple gear), we are good to go. If the FIOS router is the host, then we are hosed - no mixture of settings in the FIOS router seem to work with AirCard. Strange, but it is what it is. Which FiOS router? AFAIK neither the Actiontec nor the Westel have any difficulties. Be sure to set the encryption type correctly - WEP vs WPA vs WPA2. - Dan. -- - Be Prepared! http://www.bt.cdc.gov/socialmedia/zombies_blog.asp - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Airport card
The router I have is an Actiontec MI-424WR. I was hoping I could get it set up to run WPA with the airport card in my G3 iMac, but I've had no such luck... Doug Denver, CO On Oct 22, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Dan wrote: At 6:01 PM -0700 10/22/2011, D. Fabel wrote: We've determined we can connect to some, but not all WPA networks. If our Airport Express is hosting the network (or other Apple gear), we are good to go. If the FIOS router is the host, then we are hosed - no mixture of settings in the FIOS router seem to work with AirCard. Strange, but it is what it is. Which FiOS router? AFAIK neither the Actiontec nor the Westel have any difficulties. Be sure to set the encryption type correctly - WEP vs WPA vs WPA2. - Dan. -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
RE: airport card
The old cards support WEP. Larry From: platni...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 23:12:43 -0600 Subject: Re: airport card To: imaclist@googlegroups.com Anything up to WPA with TKIP. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: What security do those old cards support? WEP? WPA? WPA2? Anyone know? Thanks, Doug On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:51 AM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, Can anybody tell me if a airport card can be installed in a SE G3 imac early 2001 Blue white Dalmation? And if it can be what do I need to do it? Thanks Bruce You need the iMac airport adapter. Might be hard to find now. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- platnicat -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
??? Which is it? Or are other factors involved? Doug On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:47 AM, larry kinsey wrote: The old cards support WEP. Anything up to WPA with TKIP. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:21 AM, D. Fabel wrote: ??? Which is it? Or are other factors involved? It may depend on the OS, but the older Airport cards support WEP and WPA+TKIP. My old Pismo running 10.4 did. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
I guarantee that an original AirPort card will work fine on a WPA/WPA2 hybrid network that supports TKIP. That's what my AirPort Extreme (latest N model) is broadcasting, and all my G3s work fine with it. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:21 AM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.netwrote: ??? Which is it? Or are other factors involved? Doug On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:47 AM, larry kinsey wrote: The old cards support WEP. Anything up to WPA with TKIP. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- platnicat -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:21 AM, D. Fabel wrote: ??? Which is it? Or are other factors involved? Doug The card supports WEP. OS X.4 (I think) and up supports WPA in software using an original Airport card On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:47 AM, larry kinsey wrote: The old cards support WEP. Anything up to WPA with TKIP. I did a test some time ago and here is what I wrote up: We wrote here recently about how Apple included support in Tiger (and perhaps Panther) for using WPA with the original Airport card. Some people here said they couldn't get it working. Well today I tested it out. It works but with a specific configuration. I tried it with my Pismo with an Original Airport card and the base station is an Airlink 101 Super G. I tried WPA PSK and WPA2 PSK (WPA PSK is the same as WPA Personal) and using TKIP and AES with both. The results were: WPA PSK TKIPWorked AES Doesn't Work WPA2 PSK TKIPDoesn't Work AES Doesn't Work Only WPA PSK with TKIP worked. So those trying to do this would be well advised to try that combo. My D-Link N AP/Router supports WPA and WPA2 both enabled simultaneously and also AES and TKIP both enabled. My Pismo doesn't work with that router. I'm not in a hurry to test it out as a it's the main router and several computers connect through it. And here is the Apple link that discusses WPA on Tiger with original Airport cards. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2594?viewlocale=en_US Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
OT, but oddly apropos. I think the WEP key is the one in the middle http://failblog.org/2011/10/20/epic-fail-photos-there-i-fixed-it-which-one-is-the-wep-key/ :-) -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
I'm having mixed results... If I try to connect an iMac G3 indigo with Airport card to my existing Verizon FIOS wireless router (MI424), it WILL NOT connect regardless of how I set it up. WEP, WPA, WPA2, with TKIP, with AES, with both... No combination seems to work. However, if I set up my old Airport Express (g only) to create a wireless network - low and behold my iMac connects just fine using WPA. Any thoughts out there on why I'm good to go with the AE but not with the FIOS router??? Thanks, Doug On Oct 20, 2011, at 11:25 AM, platnicat mewr wrote: I guarantee that an original AirPort card will work fine on a WPA/WPA2 hybrid network that supports TKIP. That's what my AirPort Extreme (latest N model) is broadcasting, and all my G3s work fine with it. On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:21 AM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: ??? Which is it? Or are other factors involved? Doug On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:47 AM, larry kinsey wrote: The old cards support WEP. Anything up to WPA with TKIP. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- platnicat -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, D. Fabel wrote: I'm having mixed results... If I try to connect an iMac G3 indigo with Airport card to my existing Verizon FIOS wireless router (MI424), it WILL NOT connect regardless of how I set it up. WEP, WPA, WPA2, with TKIP, with AES, with both... No combination seems to work. Make sure it's set up to use 802.11b. Many 'g' and 'n' routers can be configured to not allow 802.11b devices to connect. Try, as a test, disabling the security. However, if I set up my old Airport Express (g only) to create a wireless network - low and behold my iMac connects just fine using WPA. Any thoughts out there on why I'm good to go with the AE but not with the FIOS router??? Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
No security works fine. Unfortunately, that leaves the network wide open. The current FIOS router will only do b/g/n or b/g, there is no b only mode... ??? On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Oct 20, 2011, at 4:29 PM, D. Fabel wrote: I'm having mixed results... If I try to connect an iMac G3 indigo with Airport card to my existing Verizon FIOS wireless router (MI424), it WILL NOT connect regardless of how I set it up. WEP, WPA, WPA2, with TKIP, with AES, with both... No combination seems to work. Make sure it's set up to use 802.11b. Many 'g' and 'n' routers can be configured to not allow 802.11b devices to connect. Try, as a test, disabling the security. However, if I set up my old Airport Express (g only) to create a wireless network - low and behold my iMac connects just fine using WPA. Any thoughts out there on why I'm good to go with the AE but not with the FIOS router??? Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
On Oct 20, 2011, at 5:39 PM, D. Fabel wrote: No security works fine. Unfortunately, that leaves the network wide open. But it tells us that the issue is security, not other factors. All I can suggest at this point is to try WPA TKIS again, making sure the encryption key matches. The current FIOS router will only do b/g/n or b/g, there is no b only mode... I was suggesting it might have a NO 'b' mode, some do. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
Sorry, I misread the B mode comment. It looks like my router should support a B device. I was hoping for a B only mode to further eliminate things, but don't have that option. Agreed, the issue is with the security, but I'm having a hard time pinning it down. I've done the WPA TKIP, WPA AES, and WPA TKIP and AES. I've had no success with either setting. However, I'm still thinking the issue is with the FIOS router because if I use my old AirPort Express to set up a new wireless network, I can connect to that without problems. I was just now trying to get my AirPort Express to join my existing FIOS wireless network, but that is no longer working. I'm finding this whole process rather frustrating, as it was working and hosting a USB printer prior to my messing around with the old iMac. I can't figure out why I can't get it all back to where it was... :( I've enjoyed computers for MANY years. I love tinker with them, even old ones. But it always seems the most frustration occurs when playing with wireless network settings... Thanks, Doug On Oct 20, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Clark Martin wrote: But it tells us that the issue is security, not other factors. All I can suggest at this point is to try WPA TKIS again, making sure the encryption key matches. I was suggesting it might have a NO 'b' mode, some do. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: g3 OS 9 - Default Desktop
Perhaps what he meant to say is that the computer would keep the settings he applied, which included the matching desktop. In that, he would be right, however confusing and misleading that might sound. I have heard weirder things said by well-meaning, computer-ignorant people. Conversely, a friend of mine berated (violently) the Apple salesperson who sold her a brand new machine because it did not come with all the OS updates, so I had to install them myself... HTH, Felix On Oct 13, 9:38 am, Bob Archambault bob...@cox.net wrote: Hello All...First time poster here... The other day, I picked up an old iMac G3 266 Grape. The seller of the machine showed me that it worked on premises, and particularly noted how the color of the desktop (Mac OS 9.2.2) matched the case color. He then proceeded to tell me that OS 9, upon installation, reads the codes of the computer (from ROM, I presume) and automatically sets the desktop to the matching color. Can anyone actually confirm this to be true? Or was this guy just BSing me? Thanks... Bob Archambault -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:51 AM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, Can anybody tell me if a airport card can be installed in a SE G3 imac early 2001 Blue white Dalmation? And if it can be what do I need to do it? Thanks Bruce You need the iMac airport adapter. Might be hard to find now. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
What security do those old cards support? WEP? WPA? WPA2? Anyone know? Thanks, Doug On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:51 AM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, Can anybody tell me if a airport card can be installed in a SE G3 imac early 2001 Blue white Dalmation? And if it can be what do I need to do it? Thanks Bruce You need the iMac airport adapter. Might be hard to find now. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac no show
I would get a can of compressed air and blow out the inside, then pull out the ram chip and blow out the slot. This can help clean up some contacts that may be blocked by dust. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: airport card
Anything up to WPA with TKIP. On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:57 PM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.netwrote: What security do those old cards support? WEP? WPA? WPA2? Anyone know? Thanks, Doug On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Clark Martin wrote: On Oct 16, 2011, at 5:51 AM, Bruce Hazzard wrote: Hi, Can anybody tell me if a airport card can be installed in a SE G3 imac early 2001 Blue white Dalmation? And if it can be what do I need to do it? Thanks Bruce You need the iMac airport adapter. Might be hard to find now. Clark Martin Redwood City, CA, USA Macintosh / Internet Consulting I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- platnicat -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Intel iMac Backlight Problem?
That is defiantly the backlight, if you can hold a flash light to the dark part and see the stuff it's not the screen. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Intel iMac Backlight Problem?
On Oct 16, 2011, at 11:45 PM, Christopher Satterfield wrote: That is defiantly the backlight, if you can hold a flash light to the dark part and see the stuff it's not the screen. Without a doubt the backlight, then. Is there a problem with the backlight dying in these iMacs? And does this mean I have to spend $60 on a new inverter board? Isaac -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: g3 OS 9 - Default Desktop
On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Bob Archambault wrote: The other day, I picked up an old iMac G3 266 Grape. The seller of the machine showed me that it worked on premises, and particularly noted how the color of the desktop (Mac OS 9.2.2) matched the case color. He then proceeded to tell me that OS 9, upon installation, reads the codes of the computer (from ROM, I presume) and automatically sets the desktop to the matching color. NewWorld Macs use a Mac OS ROM file, but the parameter RAM (PRAM) could store a 'flavor' ID. Can anyone actually confirm this to be true? Or was this guy just BSing me? Someone made a hack that customized the colors of Jasik's Debugger based on which flavor Mac it was running on, so I'm pretty sure this is real, if poorly documented. However, it's possible that the behavior described only works with the Mac OS installer that shipped with the iMac/iBook, and that retail versions don't do this. Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: g3 OS 9 - Default Desktop
Woof !!! Definitely sounds like BS to me !!! M On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Bob Archambault bob...@cox.net wrote: Hello All...First time poster here... The other day, I picked up an old iMac G3 266 Grape. The seller of the machine showed me that it worked on premises, and particularly noted how the color of the desktop (Mac OS 9.2.2) matched the case color. He then proceeded to tell me that OS 9, upon installation, reads the codes of the computer (from ROM, I presume) and automatically sets the desktop to the matching color. Can anyone actually confirm this to be true? Or was this guy just BSing me? Thanks... Bob Archambault -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
Media server On Oct 11, 2011, at 8:54 PM, D. Fabel lists.dfa...@earthlink.net wrote: Alex, Really, what size hard drive to recommend depends upon what you'd like to do with the iMac. For what use is it destined??? Doug Portland, OR On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Alex Sciortino wrote: I have an iMac g3 and it has a 40gb hdd should I upgrade? If so what size and how? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
I would say go with external hard drives for they will hold more than the internal drive, are cheaper and also will be easier to move if you ever get a new computer. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: g3 OS 9 - Default Desktop
Hmm, I really don't think so. I installed Mac OS 9.2.2 on an orange one and the background was the default blue one. -- C:\win Bad Command Or File Name C:\ -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: g3 OS 9 - Default Desktop
I've got two grapes and an indigo, and haven't seen this behavior. However, once you choose a background, that background will always return upon boot. Pick what you like, or what matches, and don't worry about it... Doug On Oct 13, 2011, at 6:38 AM, Bob Archambault wrote: He then proceeded to tell me that OS 9, upon installation, reads the codes of the computer (from ROM, I presume) and automatically sets the desktop to the matching color. Can anyone actually confirm this to be true? Or was this guy just BSing me? -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
On 2011/10/10 11:09, Alex Sciortino so eloquently wrote: I have an iMac g3 and it has a 40gb hdd should I upgrade? If so what size and how? That depends on what you intend to use your iMac for. If you want to store a few photos and a little bit of music, 40GB might be fine. But if you want to store a lot of pics, music, and/or videos you'll probably want a larger drive. Not knowing which iMac you have, and being of poor memory, it may be subject to a 128GB limit making a 120GB drive your practical maximum unless you want to partition a larger drive. Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ..browsing problem
On 2011/10/11 13:07, eric salazar so eloquently wrote: I hace an I mac G3 400mhz , with Mac OSX10.3.9, when I try to browse in safari it does not let me do it properly like email or facebook or even youtube , it says I need to update or upgrade my browser but I have no idea how to work it out...! nedd some advise ...also if anybody knows if i can install ubuntu linux in this mac..!! You may need to update the Flash player plugin, though the most recent one that you can use, probably v9, is outdated. Any G3 is not going to handle Flash video very well, even some G4s struggle with Flash video. Ubuntu does not officially support Power PC anymore, but there are unofficial builds for PPC, though you'll likely need an older build for a G3. Not everything will work though, for instance there is no Flash player build for PPC. There is a Mac section in the Ubuntu forums that is a good source of information about PPC Ubuntu. Also if you find a build that will run on your G3 iMac you might want to try one of the lighter desktops like XFCE, the Gnome KDE desktops are more system intensive. There are also lighter linux builds such as Puppy linux but I don't know if any of them support PPC. This might be a good place to start: http://penguinppc.org/ Tina -- HP Presario 2.8GHz Celeron D 2GB RAM Discrete graphics XP Pro iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForceFX5200 Ultra 64MB VRAM 10.4.11 PB G4 15 HR-DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB VRAM 10.5.8 Mac Pro Mid-2010 2.8 GHz QC 6 GB RAM Radeon HD 5770 1GB VRAM 10.6.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Imac G3 ..browsing problem
At 12:07 PM -0700 10/11/2011, eric salazar wrote: I mac G3 400mhz , with Mac OSX10.3.9 when I try to browse in safari it does not let me do it properly like email or facebook or even youtube , it says I need to update or upgrade my browser but I have no idea how to work it out...! This is an age-old annoyance. Web sites should query the browser to ask it if it supports a specific technology. Instead they just check the overall version of the browser, then tell the user to get lost... Sites such as YouTube require newer versions of Flash or an h.264 codec. Email sites often require better JavaScript or perhaps HTML 5 features. Christopher's suggestion of trying an alternative browser is good. But TenFourFox - a build of the latest Mozilla Firefox that will run on Tiger, won't help you. Instead reach for Classilla - an updated build of WaMCom Mozilla, done by the same guy. http://www.floodgap.com/software/classilla/ Here are builds of Camino and more Firefox, that will run on Panther: http://www.rpm-mozilla.org.uk/index.html HTH, - Dan. - Psychoceramic Emeritus; South Jersey, USA, Earth. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
Oooh, Tina reminds me... Again, depending upon which iMac, you may also have partition issues for the OS. The older tray loaders needed the OS within the first 8GB (maybe less) of the hard drive. Doug On Oct 12, 2011, at 7:39 AM, Tina K. wrote: Not knowing which iMac you have, and being of poor memory, it may be subject to a 128GB limit making a 120GB drive your practical maximum unless you want to partition a larger drive. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac G3 HDD upgrade or not?
If you need more storage space, buy an external drive. I own a graphite G3 iMac with a 40 gig drive that runs just fine, with OS 10.3.9 and 9.2.2. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
