Re: [newbie] Problem with Acrobat Plugin with Mozilla
On Friday 08 April 2005 11:54, Paul Smith wrote: > Dear All > > I am trying to use the Acrobat Plugin with Mozilla. However, I > get the following error message, in spite of having Acrobat > Reader 7.0 installed: > > Could not launch Adobe Reader 7.0. Please make sure it exists in > PATH variable in the environment. > If the problem persists, please reinstall the application. > You can download Adobe Reader 7.0 for Unix from www.adobe.com > > Any ideas? > > Paul Yes. If you dig down the directory Adobe 7/Browser/intellinux, you'll find you'll find a script : "install_browser_plugin". Run it for every browser you have. Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] back to Windows
On Friday 01 April 2005 23:44, JoeHill wrote: > On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 13:20:50 -0600 > > Tom disseminated the following: > > Eric Raymond a seat on the Microsoft Board of Directors > > ROFL! Now *that* I'd like to see...an ill-tempered and well-armed > anarchist in a room full of pissant corporate bureaucrats (soon > to be a room *empty* of said pissants, 'least any live ones). Maybe it's ESR who came up with this : http://humorix.org/articles/2005/03/april-fools/ Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I'm confused about java
On Tuesday 29 March 2005 09:38, Aidan Holmes wrote: > Hi list, > I tried to view a website today that needs java to display > properly. I used the 'install software' part of mcc and searched > for java - the (monsterous) list has left me very confused. Can > anyone tell me what package I need to install to view a website > with java - I'm using firefox if that has any bearing. > > -Aidan. Java isn't on the MDK CD's due to license problems. You can download a working java from Sun. However, if you're a member of Mandrake Club (you really should be) you can download the java executable. It's called j2re (Java2 Runtime Environment). If you have set up your sources for Mandrake Club, just as root : # urpmi j2re. The latest version is : j2re-1.4.2_07-1mdk (assuming you run 10.1). Beware, it's a 22 MB download. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Adobe Reader
On Monday 28 March 2005 10:32, Pablo Ortuzar wrote: > Hello, > > Adobe Reader 7 rpms can be found here > > ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/unix/7x/7.0/enu/ Yes, but installing with urpmi gives an error, something with curl being in the way. Instead, use this : # rpm -i --nodeps AdobeReader And everything works well. Kaj haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] cd into file
On Sunday 27 March 2005 22:42, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > I am feeling particularly stupid and frustrated just now. I > downloaded some files in preparation for installing gwenview. I > saved them to /home/rosemary/Linux Stuff/rpms - now I can't cd > into it, tells me no such file or directory. Thought I would > rename it, but same problem. I don't want to have to do the > downloads again. I've not had this problem before. I can see > the rpms in konqueror and that is the path it gives. It seems > simple but I am stumped. Wondered if it doesn't like the Linux > Stuff name? > > Rosemary Did you create that "Linux Stuff" directory in Konqueror ? If so, the command shell probably won't see it. The shell doesn't like spaces in file names. You could try to rename that directory to i.e. "Linux_Stuff" or some such. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Getting a screen-shot of the current window
On Saturday 19 March 2005 21:39, riccardo wrote: > On Saturday 19 March 2005 07:49 pm, Paul Smith wrote: > > how to get a screen-shot of the current window? > > > > Ksnapshot will do fine > > ~ thus . . . Alt F2 [will open a 'Run' menu] enter: Ksnapshot . > . . & hit Enter > > best rgds > ___ Ksnapshot can be invoked by just hitting the key "Print Screen". Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Saturday 19 March 2005 01:20, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 17:16, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >>Mr. Geek wrote: > >>>Kaj; I think Anne has the right idea. I have several clients > >>>using external USB drives instead of other types of backup > >>>drives/media. Many of them came partitioned and pre-formatted > >>>as FAT32, but Diskdrake made fast work of it. > >>> > >>>One thing you should consider though, is that it helps > >>>sometimes to delete the mount-point folder right after you > >>>unmount the drive and before you attempt to delete the FAT32 > >>>partition. > >>> > >>>Your problem may have something to do with that. If not, then > >>>this will make sure that drive access and permissions are > >>>updated at the least. > >>> > >>>If necessary, go to the harddrive manufacturer's website and > >>>download their diagnostics tools. Some like Maxtor have a > >>>bootable ISO image you can download and use to reformat the > >>>drive back to factory standards. Others have the same type of > >>>tools which can be run from a bootable floppy diskette. > >>> > >>>Worst-case, you can remove the hard drive from it's USB case > >>>and temporarily connect it as a slave drive on your Linux box. > >>>Once Diskdrake sees the drive you can proceed normally and > >>>delete and create new partitions and re-format the drive the > >>>way you prefer. > >>> > >>>Your problem might also be that the circuitry in the USB box > >>>itself may have either a hardware or software 'Lock' system. > >>>Check your owners manual for the USB box to see if it does. > >>>Once more possibility is that the controller chip in the USB > >>>case does not support Linux, but I find that highly unlikely. > >>> > >>>IN all cases, you'll have to unmount the drive from diskdrake > >>>to begin the process, so keep that in mind. > >> > >>One problem you run into with the tools from the drive > >>manfacturer is that most of them do not enable USB support, so > >>they will not even see the drive. This will hopefully change as > >>externel USB and Firewire drives become more popular, but for > >>now, you just about have to create a special boot disk if you > >>want to work on something other then a IDE of SCSI drive. > >>(OpenDOS has some nice boot disks...) > >> > >>Mikkel > > > > Thanks Mikkel, but you see I just don't have a Windows boot > > disk. Neither have my daughter, who has a WinXP box. I tried > > to figure out a way to let her Windows (DOS) format the > > external harddisk, but gave it up, 'cause there is no point in > > it : I still can't get a decent file system on it, no matter > > what. Maybe NTFS is usable but then I can't write to it from > > my Linux box, the whole idea being to use it as a transport > > medium and backup between the two boxes. > > > > Well, I can still use my camera for transport > > > > Kaj haulrich. > > The tools from the drive manfacturer are their own boot disk. You > usualy download a program that creates the floppy. Then boot with > the floppy. Or, if you don't like having the larger collection of > floppies, you download the Ultimate Boot CD from > http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ and boot with that when you need > the tools. > > Mikkel Good heavens, Mikkel. How did you find that ? I'll dive into it ASAP. Now, just don't let us get carried away : I wanted some method to defrag this crappy Microsoft FAT32 file system. WindowsXP can't do it. Neither can Linux. So, I figured that backing up the entire content, re-formatting and restoring might be the way to go. But as the file system seems to be "hard coded", and I know that Linux can "fix anything", I'll download your Floppy-CD, lean back and watch the battle Have a nice week-end... Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 17:16, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Mr. Geek wrote: > > Kaj; I think Anne has the right idea. I have several clients > > using external USB drives instead of other types of backup > > drives/media. Many of them came partitioned and pre-formatted > > as FAT32, but Diskdrake made fast work of it. > > > > One thing you should consider though, is that it helps > > sometimes to delete the mount-point folder right after you > > unmount the drive and before you attempt to delete the FAT32 > > partition. > > > > Your problem may have something to do with that. If not, then > > this will make sure that drive access and permissions are > > updated at the least. > > > > If necessary, go to the harddrive manufacturer's website and > > download their diagnostics tools. Some like Maxtor have a > > bootable ISO image you can download and use to reformat the > > drive back to factory standards. Others have the same type of > > tools which can be run from a bootable floppy diskette. > > > > Worst-case, you can remove the hard drive from it's USB case > > and temporarily connect it as a slave drive on your Linux box. > > Once Diskdrake sees the drive you can proceed normally and > > delete and create new partitions and re-format the drive the > > way you prefer. > > > > Your problem might also be that the circuitry in the USB box > > itself may have either a hardware or software 'Lock' system. > > Check your owners manual for the USB box to see if it does. > > Once more possibility is that the controller chip in the USB > > case does not support Linux, but I find that highly unlikely. > > > > IN all cases, you'll have to unmount the drive from diskdrake > > to begin the process, so keep that in mind. > > One problem you run into with the tools from the drive > manfacturer is that most of them do not enable USB support, so > they will not even see the drive. This will hopefully change as > externel USB and Firewire drives become more popular, but for > now, you just about have to create a special boot disk if you > want to work on something other then a IDE of SCSI drive. > (OpenDOS has some nice boot disks...) > > Mikkel Thanks Mikkel, but you see I just don't have a Windows boot disk. Neither have my daughter, who has a WinXP box. I tried to figure out a way to let her Windows (DOS) format the external harddisk, but gave it up, 'cause there is no point in it : I still can't get a decent file system on it, no matter what. Maybe NTFS is usable but then I can't write to it from my Linux box, the whole idea being to use it as a transport medium and backup between the two boxes. Well, I can still use my camera for transport Kaj haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Friday 18 March 2005 11:39, SnapafunFrank wrote: > H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > >On Friday 18 March 2005 09:47, SnapafunFrank wrote: > >>Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > >>>Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >>>>I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. > >>>>Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file > >>>> system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive > >>>> with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 > >>>> from be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition it > >>>> with FAT32 ? > >>>> > >>>>So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become > >>>> fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? > >>>> > >>>>If yes, how to defrag it ? > >>>> > >>>>Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive > >>>> back-and-forth in order to defrag ? > >>>> > >>>>TIA > >>>> > >>>>Kaj Haulrich. > >>> > >>>I deleted the wrong message, so this is not a direct reply to > >>> this message, but to one later in the thread... :-( > >>> > >>>When you were trying to work with the drive, what device were > >>> you giving fdisk? If you unmount the FAT partition first, you > >>> should be able to use something like "fdisk /dev/sda" to get > >>> at the partition table. If you can, then it is simple to > >>> change the drive to another file system. If you are happy > >>> with it being one large partition, then change the type (t) > >>> to 83 (ext2/3) and save (w) the updated partition table. > >>>Then run "mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" to create an ext3 file system. > >>> > >>>If you have any data on the drive you want to keep, BACK IT UP > >>> before starting this. > >>> > >>>Please keep in mind that the drive may not be /dev/sda and the > >>>partition may not be /dev/sda1 - it depends on your system, > >>> and how the drive was partitioned. > >>> > >>>Mikkel > >> > >>Just a newbie thought : Can you do as root : > >> > >># cat /etc/fstab | grep sd > >> > >>And post it back here. Be sure the device is > >> plugged in first. > >> > >>TIA > > > >Even easier: "cat /dev/sd" on the CML and hit ...that way > > you'll see what's there. > >When inserting/plugging the device the specific /dev/sd* file > > gets made and also gets removed when unplugging. > > > >Repeat after me: > > is my best on the command line..!;) > > ONLY I SPECIFICALLY WANTED TO VIEW THE FSTAB ENTRY TO CHECK ITS > OPTIONS! Here it is (on one line) : /dev/sda1 /mnt/removable auto umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-1,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto,exec,users 0 0 Of course I know about the umask=0022 being stupid, but hitherto I haven't found a way to let it stay =0. Each time my daughter uses the drive, I have to unmount it, edit fstab to umask=0 and remount. Then she can use it. Been nagging me for months with the other "removables" like camera, mp3 players and memory sticks. - And : whacking supermount doesn't change a thing. If I ever find the daemon that changes my fstab against my will, I'll fetch my 9 mm Neuhausen... Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 15:03, Andras Keszei wrote: > On Thu, 2005-03-17 at 20:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. > > Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file > > system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive > > with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 from > > be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition it with > > FAT32 ? > > > > So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become > > fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? > > > > If yes, how to defrag it ? > > > > Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive back-and-forth > > in order to defrag ? > > > > TIA > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj, > The following may be interesting to you: I had a USB thumb drive > preformatted with FAT32 that was doing weird things under linux. > When I deleted files off it, no free space was reclaimed. After > filling the disk and erasing it, it still had no space available. > So I tried a format under diskdrake: it said unsupported > filesystem or something. It had the filesystem as grey, but > somehow it was recognised as vfat. I had to delete the > filesystem, remove the mountpoint, create a new FAT32 system in > the empty space (I still need to be compatible), format it again, > and the thing now works like a charm. All in all, I think not > all is FAT32 that appears to be so, try giving diskdrake another > go. At the same time I had a browse on defrag apps for linux, and > the bottom line seemed to be that linux needs defrag as much as > it needs antivirus software. > Hope this wasn't all useless > cheers > Andras Exactly my experience, Andras. Only I can't format the damned thing. However, tomorrow I'll follow your advice and let diskdrake have another go at it : I've just backed up the whole caboodle, so nothing to loose, I suppose. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Friday 18 March 2005 10:31, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Friday 18 March 2005 09:47, SnapafunFrank wrote: > > Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > > > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > >> I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. > > >> Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file > > >> system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive > > >> with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 > > >> from be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition it > > >> with FAT32 ? > > >> > > >> So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become > > >> fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? > > >> > > >> If yes, how to defrag it ? > > >> > > >> Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive > > >> back-and-forth in order to defrag ? > > >> > > >> TIA > > >> > > >> Kaj Haulrich. > > > > > > I deleted the wrong message, so this is not a direct reply to > > > this message, but to one later in the thread... :-( > > > > > > When you were trying to work with the drive, what device were > > > you giving fdisk? If you unmount the FAT partition first, you > > > should be able to use something like "fdisk /dev/sda" to get > > > at the partition table. If you can, then it is simple to > > > change the drive to another file system. If you are happy > > > with it being one large partition, then change the type (t) > > > to 83 (ext2/3) and save (w) the updated partition table. > > > Then run "mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" to create an ext3 file system. > > > > > > If you have any data on the drive you want to keep, BACK IT > > > UP before starting this. > > > > > > Please keep in mind that the drive may not be /dev/sda and > > > the partition may not be /dev/sda1 - it depends on your > > > system, and how the drive was partitioned. > > > > > > Mikkel > > > > Just a newbie thought : Can you do as root : > > > > # cat /etc/fstab | grep sd > > > > And post it back here..... Be sure the device is > > plugged in first. > > > > TIA > > Even easier: "cat /dev/sd" on the CML and hit ...that way > you'll see what's there. > When inserting/plugging the device the specific /dev/sd* file > gets made and also gets removed when unplugging. > > Repeat after me: > is my best on the command line..!;) OK Harm, the device is there as /dev/sda1. But it is "untouchable" by any attempt to create a real file system. It works with FAT32 and that is that Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 17:26, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. > > Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file > > system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive > > with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 from > > be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition it with > > FAT32 ? > > > > So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become > > fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? > > > > If yes, how to defrag it ? > > > > Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive back-and-forth > > in order to defrag ? > > > > TIA > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > I deleted the wrong message, so this is not a direct reply to > this message, but to one later in the thread... :-( > > When you were trying to work with the drive, what device were you > giving fdisk? If you unmount the FAT partition first, you should > be able to use something like "fdisk /dev/sda" to get at the > partition table. If you can, then it is simple to change the > drive to another file system. If you are happy with it being one > large partition, then change the type (t) to 83 (ext2/3) and save > (w) the updated partition table. Then run "mke2fs -j /dev/sda1" > to create an ext3 file system. > > If you have any data on the drive you want to keep, BACK IT UP > before starting this. > > Please keep in mind that the drive may not be /dev/sda and the > partition may not be /dev/sda1 - it depends on your system, and > how the drive was partitioned. > > Mikkel Well, fdisk could "see" the /dev/sda1 but report this : -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]# fdisk /dev/sda1 The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 19928. There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024, and could in certain setups cause problems with: 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO) 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK) So, as I understand it, there's no idea in having a 160 GB disk when only a 5% of it is usable... Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 12:17, Mr. Geek wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:41, Anne Wilson wrote: > >>On Thursday 17 Mar 2005 10:12, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >>>>Kaj, if you have a windows boot disk, use fdisk to completely > >>>>remove the partition, then let MCC deal with it. I've never > >>>>used the linux fdisk, but I would have thought you could do > >>>>the same with that. > >>>> > >>>>Anne > >>> > >>>Thanks, Anne. But..eh.. I don't have Windows disk, and even > >>> if I had, how could I get in into the external drive ? > >> > >>Ah - I missed that it was an external drive - sorry about that. > >>I've never used an external drive, but I would think that you > >>could only do that if the bios recognised the external drive - > >> I understand that some do. > >> > >>>The linux fdisk utility won't let me do anything on the drive. > >> > >>Is the drive seen at all? I would have thought that if the > >> drive is recognised it should be possible to remove the > >> partition as long as it's unmounted? > >> > >>Anne > > > > The drive is seen OK, but trying to format it with a real file > > system is a no go. I'm wondering if someone wrote a defragger > > for linux to use on a FAT32 partition ? - It's my impression > > that many here have such a partition for their Windows stuff. > > I'll google around some. No major problem though, just my > > perfectionism > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj; I think Anne has the right idea. I have several clients > using external USB drives instead of other types of backup > drives/media. Many of them came partitioned and pre-formatted as > FAT32, but Diskdrake made fast work of it. > > One thing you should consider though, is that it helps sometimes > to delete the mount-point folder right after you unmount the > drive and before you attempt to delete the FAT32 partition. > > Your problem may have something to do with that. If not, then > this will make sure that drive access and permissions are updated > at the least. > > If necessary, go to the harddrive manufacturer's website and > download their diagnostics tools. Some like Maxtor have a > bootable ISO image you can download and use to reformat the drive > back to factory standards. Others have the same type of tools > which can be run from a bootable floppy diskette. > > Worst-case, you can remove the hard drive from it's USB case and > temporarily connect it as a slave drive on your Linux box. Once > Diskdrake sees the drive you can proceed normally and delete and > create new partitions and re-format the drive the way you prefer. > > Your problem might also be that the circuitry in the USB box > itself may have either a hardware or software 'Lock' system. > Check your owners manual for the USB box to see if it does. Once > more possibility is that the controller chip in the USB case does > not support Linux, but I find that highly unlikely. > > IN all cases, you'll have to unmount the drive from diskdrake to > begin the process, so keep that in mind. Thanks a lot, Mr. Geek - what a lot of options :-) Funny thing is, Diskdrake doesn't color the /dev/sda1 meaning it can't see the FS type. And, yes, this is a Maxtor device, works fine apart from this issue. Now, I'll play with your suggestions. Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:51, et wrote: > On Thursday 17 March 2005 05:12 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:48, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Thursday 17 Mar 2005 09:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. > > > > Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file > > > > system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive > > > > with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 > > > > from be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition > > > > it with FAT32 ? > > > > > > > > So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become > > > > fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? > > > > > > > > If yes, how to defrag it ? > > > > > > > > Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive > > > > back-and-forth in order to defrag ? > > > > > > > > TIA > > > > > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > > > Kaj, if you have a windows boot disk, use fdisk to completely > > > remove the partition, then let MCC deal with it. I've never > > > used the linux fdisk, but I would have thought you could do > > > the same with that. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Thanks, Anne. But..eh.. I don't have Windows disk, and even if > > I had, how could I get in into the external drive ? > > > > The linux fdisk utility won't let me do anything on the drive. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj, I know this might sound dumb, but have you tried diskdrake? > disk drake seems to me to be a damn well configured partittion > manager tool. I never have tried to reformat a USB connected > drive with it, but I would ex[ect it to handle it well. Yes, Ed. Diskdrake gives the option to format the drive (/dev/sda1) but nothing happens. The drive seems to be locked. Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 11:41, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 17 Mar 2005 10:12, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > Kaj, if you have a windows boot disk, use fdisk to completely > > > remove the partition, then let MCC deal with it. I've never > > > used the linux fdisk, but I would have thought you could do > > > the same with that. > > > > > > Anne > > > > Thanks, Anne. But..eh.. I don't have Windows disk, and even if > > I had, how could I get in into the external drive ? > > Ah - I missed that it was an external drive - sorry about that. > I've never used an external drive, but I would think that you > could only do that if the bios recognised the external drive - I > understand that some do. > > > The linux fdisk utility won't let me do anything on the drive. > > Is the drive seen at all? I would have thought that if the drive > is recognised it should be possible to remove the partition as > long as it's unmounted? > > Anne The drive is seen OK, but trying to format it with a real file system is a no go. I'm wondering if someone wrote a defragger for linux to use on a FAT32 partition ? - It's my impression that many here have such a partition for their Windows stuff. I'll google around some. No major problem though, just my perfectionism Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] FAT question
On Thursday 17 March 2005 10:48, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 17 Mar 2005 09:38, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. > > Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file > > system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive > > with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 from > > be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition it with > > FAT32 ? > > > > So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become > > fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? > > > > If yes, how to defrag it ? > > > > Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive back-and-forth > > in order to defrag ? > > > > TIA > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj, if you have a windows boot disk, use fdisk to completely > remove the partition, then let MCC deal with it. I've never used > the linux fdisk, but I would have thought you could do the same > with that. > > Anne Thanks, Anne. But..eh.. I don't have Windows disk, and even if I had, how could I get in into the external drive ? The linux fdisk utility won't let me do anything on the drive. Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] FAT question
I've just got my hands on a 160 GB external USB hard disk. Now, this thing comes preformatted with a FAT32 (vfat) file system. When I unmount the thing I can't reformat the drive with a decent file system like ReiserFS, JFS, ext2 or ext3 from be it the MCC or by hand. I can't even re-partition it with FAT32 ? So here it goes : will this FAT32 file system become fragmented over time like any other Windows file system ? If yes, how to defrag it ? Or, will I have to move the FS to another drive back-and-forth in order to defrag ? TIA Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Automount USB devices
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 21:29, Charles Rodgers wrote: > Hi Kaj, > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 17:14:13 +0100, you wrote: > >I've never come to grips with this.U(seless) S(illy) > > B(ugger). > > I was mystified by this problem because as far as I was aware I > had not done anything that could have changed the setup here > (10.1 with KDE). It was working, then it wasn't :-(( > So I persevered, exploring the possibilities of a problem with > connections. > The problem then became intermittent. I have two USB cables, > one end of each which fits the camera or the card reader. One > of those cables has a clip-on ferrite bead at the end that has > the smaller of the two plugs. > > I re-booted with the ferrite beaded cable plugged directly into > the motherboard at the back of the PC. > Plugged in the camera - magic :-) > Plugged in the card reader - magic :-) > Both auto sensing, no problem. > > I guess the cables are not too well shielded and that maybe the > ferrite bead at the camera end prevents any stray capacitances > from getting onto the motherboard. > > I like to use the card reader as a small file transporter between > the Windows box (upon which I'm still slightly dependant) and the > Linux box. > > My dependency upon Windoze is because I still can't get the > printer to print landscape from Linux, and when I print > photographs it's the other way round !!! > > I remember reading that Anne had some trouble with temperamental > USB connections - so maybe it's worth giving ferrite beads a try. > -- > Charles Thanks, Charles. Good advice. I use my camera as a transport medium between my daughters PC ( with WinXP - not connected to anything but the power outlet, of course) and my own box. I noticed that the order of devices is important : my scanner has to be last, the camera first. The other way around the CPU runs amok, cluttering my desktop with endless, strange icons. Maybe I'm too lazy to connect things to the rear of the box ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *Sent from a 100 % Microsoft-free workstation* *Running Linux Mandrake 10.1* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Automount USB devices
On Wednesday 16 March 2005 16:54, Charles Rodgers wrote: > Mr G, > > On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 10:44:05 -0500, you wrote: > >Charles, Don't make the same mistake I did. If your camera has a > >playback mode, you need to activate it and them your camera > > should be detected. > >I had this exact problem just the other day with a Canon > > Powershot A85. As soon as it was in 'play' mode, everything > > worked like a charm. > > Yes, I remember your thread - I wish it was that simple :-) > -- > Charles I'm certainly not the right person to answer this, but on the other hand I've been struggling with my USB devices since 10.1 and one thing I know for sure : you must have udev + udevd + magicdev running. Possibly hotplug and devfsd as well. I've never come to grips with this.U(seless) S(illy) B(ugger). Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] new user
On Tuesday 15 March 2005 09:59, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Hi there > > My son is returning home to live for a few months - so thought I > would add him as new user. Used 'adduser' name > > There was no prompt for a password so did not do anything else. > On the next free line I added the password, wondering if it was > needed. Then exited konosle. Attempted to logon using the new > name, but simply won't do it. Any ideas? > > Thanks > Rosemary The new user probably is there OK. You can confirm it by looking for his home directory, like this : cd /home ls then you should se a directory with the new user's name. However, you haven't set a password. To do this type (as root) : passwd [username] Now, exit your root console and type : su [username] give the new password, and you are done. The new user will get a default desktop from /etc/skel, then he can start tweaking and configuring, change his password and so on HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Microsoft to patent XML
You won't believe this : http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_id=5&ObjectID=10115247 I wonder when Microsoft will take out a patent on the alphabet. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] login manager
On Monday 14 March 2005 22:04, Michel Leunen wrote: > Sometimes ago, Anne wilson told me to use the Mandrake login > manager to enable/disable users in the login window: > > "Try kcontrol > System > Login Manager and check whether the user > is enabled there." > > What is the name of this Login manager? The one to type in a > terminal. Since I've lost kde, I use xfce4 and the login manager > doesn't appear in the XFCE menu. > > Thanks, > Michel Michel, as far as I understand you want to log in as a new user in order to see if KDE works, OK ? If so, just create a new user from a root konsole, like this : # adduser [username here] Then you'll be prompted for a new unix password, just choose some and carry on. When done, log out of the root session, kill the X server by pressing and log in as the new user, choosing KDE . If the problem is some setting in your old .kde directory, the new user's KDE will work just fine. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] HP 8450 Printer Driver
On Sunday 13 March 2005 23:01, Charles Rodgers wrote: > Hi All, > > First post :-) > I've recently started the transition from XP to Mandrake and > things are generally going very well. Mandrake is great !! > However, inevitably help is needed. > > Is it possible to get a Linux driver for the HP Photosmart 8450 ? > Could someone please tell me where and how. > > Charles Welcome Charles... The HP Photosmart maybe new, so I guess you could use this one : http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-PhotoSmart_8400 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] devfs and udev
On Sunday 13 March 2005 04:13, SnapafunFrank wrote: > I understand that devfs and udev ought not be running at the same > time, but how do I stop devfs ? > > Within MCC I have stopped devfsd and unchecked it re boot up at > start up, but still it runs. > > Question: I'm not even sure if devfsd and devfs are the same > thing ~ anyone ? > Here's what I see using: > > $ top > <...snip...> > 214 root 15 0 1872 624 1424 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.99 > devfsd 282 root 6 -10800 12 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.07 > udevd <...snip...> > > Are all the above statements correct ? > > If so, then how do I turn devfs off and have it stay off through > reboots ? ( It must be a simple edit of some file but I'm unaware > of which one.) > > And of course the 'insight' question. Any ideas of the effect of > leaving devfs turned off ? > > The current actually working is that I can plug in a flash drive > - wait a moment - and the files become accessible to and from > it. That is sometimes! At other times I'm sure I'm doing damage > because the device appears to be unmounted and will not have the > files seen, but when I do mount it manually, root can see the > files but user cannot, making me think at times that I have wiped > the flash drive. Further, the Howto's I followed allowed me to > have any device I plugged in recognized for what it is within > /mnt - but that has never worked since the first reboot though > all the files appear to be in place. The very first time I tried > to test my work, this actually did work, and often whilst I was > within that session. > > ( I used the > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_si >ngle/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html#linux-2.6 > > > to install udev - it's quite conclusive.) Funny thing is, on my system there's no devfs but nevertheless the devfsd is running as well as udev : kaj]$ rpm -qa | grep devfs devfsd-1.3.25-38mdk [EMAIL PROTECTED] kaj]$ I have done endless permutations of devfs, devfsd, magicdev, udev, and supermount, but my USB devices (scanner, external hard drive, mp3 player and camera) still combat each other in a seemingly random way. So far I've come to the conclusion that one or two of those daemons (or is it devils ?) are written by Microsoft : my /etc/fstab keeps changing each time a USB device gets inserted, especially the umask=0022 statement. This of course prevents me as a ordinary user to write to the device. I have to unmount it as root, edit my fstab to umask=0 and remount. Drives me crazy. So, if someone here could point us to an explanation, I certainly would be happy. Good weekend, all. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Canon Powershot A85
On Friday 11 March 2005 19:41, Mr. Geek wrote: > Thanks to everyone who tried to help, and especially to Anne, > who's suggestion got things working. > > It was somewhat weird that the camera would have to be in a > certain mode to work with a computer. > > So I hope that my next question won't seem as strange. Is there > some software that will allow me to erase pictures which are > stored on the camera? Or something to re-format the flash card in > the camera? > > Thanks again! Mr. Geek, if you mount your camera as /mnt camera, become root in a terminal, cd to /mnt and issue the command chmod 777 camera (where camera can be anything you choose, i.e. removable or whatever). That will allow you to write, delete etc. directly on the camera. Beware though, sometimes you won't be allowed to chmod even as root. In order to bypass that, you'll have to edit your /etc/fstab so that umask=0 (instead of the default 0022) for the device line. Save that file, umount the device and mount again. Now you'll have all permission set drwxrwxrwx which means that root, yourself and all others can do as they please. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Bittorrent setup
On Thursday 10 March 2005 15:03, Christopher Taylor wrote: > Some of the sites that I am looking at only have downloads via > bittorent. Can someone explain what this is and how it is setup? > Thanks. Take a trip here : http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/09/bittorrent_update/ Bittorrent is included in 10.1 and very easy to set up. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council
On Wednesday 09 March 2005 06:54, SigmaX wrote: > Back to the original title, "Microsoft overrules EU Council", is > there really any evidence that Microsoft had anything resembling > a direct influence in the matter? Or was it just the assumtion > of an M$-dispising soule that anything resembling buisness + > money + evil must be of M$. Very good evidence. During a "friendly" visit to Danish Prime Minister Mr. Anders Fogh Rasmussen in February, Mr. Gates threatened to close down his Navision branch here if Denmark didn't support the EU Software Patents Directive. http://www.computerworld.dk/default.asp?Mode=2&ArticleID=27060 It's in Danish, but I guess Google can translate it for you. As it turned out, the blackmail was successful : although our Parliament mandated the Sec.Trade, Mr. Bendtsen to demand the EU Council take the matter off the agenda, he didn't. Public scandal over here. Mr. Bendtsen will have to come out with some very good explanations next week, being subjected to a hearing in Parliament. So far, the Patents Directive stands. You can read a lot more here : http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050308084230867 In English, that is. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Networking - OpenOffice
On Tuesday 08 March 2005 15:12, SOTL wrote: > On Tuesday 08 March 2005 08:10, Derek Jennings wrote: > > On Tuesday 08 March 2005 12:02, SOTL wrote: > > > > To set up NFS in Mandrake install portmapper, nfs-utils and > > nfs-utils-clients. On the server edit the file /etc/exports and > > add lines in the format > > /home 192.168.1.0/255.255.255.0(rw,root_squash) > > My principal issue with making fish work was having all the > correct packages installed. Once I had them installed fish > worked. > > I have verified that I have nfs-utils and nfs-utils-clients > installed but I am unable to verify the existence of portmapper > as being installed or not installed. > > Is it possible that this package mascaraed under another name or > is included with a package under another name in the Mandrake > 10.1 distribution? urpmi portmap Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council
On Monday 07 March 2005 15:56, Duncan Anderson wrote: > Stephen Kühn wrote: > >On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 23:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >>Here's to democracy, EU-style : > >> > >>http://wiki.ffii.org/Cons050307En > >> > >>In short : The Microsoft puppet-state Luxembourg denied council > >>members from Poland, Portugal and Denmark their request to > >> change the Directive on Software Patent from an A-item to a > >> B-item. > >> > >>So friends, that was it : forget about software development in > >>Europe. > >> > >>Kaj Haulrich. > > > >That is completely ridiculous. > >Hell is going to break loose and there are going to be heaps of > > very mad folks. > > > >I don't think they'll get away with it. > > Huh, this is the kind of dictatorial fascism that Europe is so > good at. They have proved it over and over again in the past, so > why should this be any different? Greed rather than justice, for > ever! > > Bunch of Nazis! I have two books standing side to side : Adolf Hitler "Mein Kampf" and the "EU Constitutional Treaty" Amazing how hard it is to tell the difference. I found one, though : This time a mr. W.Gates KBE has replaced a certain Alfried Krupp von Bohlen und Halbach. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council
On Monday 07 March 2005 15:17, M.Schild wrote: > > So friends, that was it : Â forget about software development in > > Europe. > > Is there anything the good people can do? > Maryse Maryse, it seems you live in France. If so, at the referendum, vote "NON" to the Constitution. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council
On Monday 07 March 2005 13:20, Stephen Kühn wrote: > On Mon, 2005-03-07 at 23:13, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Here's to democracy, EU-style : > > > > http://wiki.ffii.org/Cons050307En > > > > In short : The Microsoft puppet-state Luxembourg denied council > > members from Poland, Portugal and Denmark their request to > > change the Directive on Software Patent from an A-item to a > > B-item. > > > > So friends, that was it : forget about software development in > > Europe. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > That is completely ridiculous. > Hell is going to break loose and there are going to be heaps of > very mad folks. > > I don't think they'll get away with it. Well Stephen, the on-line communities here are glowing with rage already and the upcoming referendum on the EU Constitution faces even harder resistance. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Microsoft overrules EU Council
Here's to democracy, EU-style : http://wiki.ffii.org/Cons050307En In short : The Microsoft puppet-state Luxembourg denied council members from Poland, Portugal and Denmark their request to change the Directive on Software Patent from an A-item to a B-item. So friends, that was it : forget about software development in Europe. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] CD sound
On Sunday 06 March 2005 23:23, Teilhard Knight wrote: > After a lot of struggling with alsamixer and other programs, I > was able to get sound from 3 computers. I was all happy until I > decided to listen to a CD. No sound. I have looked everywhere I > can see and see no problem. Also, when one goes to "configure > your desktop->sound->sound system", there is a button to test > MIDI. Nothing happens if I press there. I suspect the only sound > I can produce is Wav sound. > > Any help to allow me to listen to my music will be greatly > appreciated. You can get sound from .mp3's .ogg's and from the net etc., but not from CD ? If so, maybe you use a CD player like Noatun (the KCDplayer). That one requires analog input. That means you'll have to check if there is an audio cable from the device to the motherboard or soundcard. Other players like grip or xmms can use digital input and require no audio cable. I don't think grip needs any additional software, but xmms does. I think it is called xmms-cdread. But first, try grip. If no go, report back. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How get from "dos" mode into KDE mode?
On Saturday 05 March 2005 18:55, h k ball wrote: > Kaj ... > > ... haven't given up on 6.0 yet, kind of a challenge ... have it > working in partiton in CLI (you taught me that terminology) on my > desktop (Intel32, 256mb ram, 700mH, 20 gb hd), now that I have > 10.1 running in VMware on my new (AMD64, 500mb ram, 2.0mH, 60gb > hd) laptop, with KDE running and Foxfire installed, my learning > curve has accelaerated a bit, got more ideas for things to try on > 6.0 to get KDE going ... mainly grinding through the 1000 > different possible configuration combinations using that old > Xconfigurator ... > > ... 10.1 bombed out on my desktop in the first 30 seconds of the > boot-up install, didn't like my disk drive partitions (old > machine, badly chopped up with 6-7 partitons, been re-partitioned > alot) .. > > ... my new laptop refuses to be partitioned by either my > Partition Magic, or by 10.1 when I tried to install it from > bootup, that's why I had to go the VMware route (very sluggish, > but totally functional) .. > > ... so, think I can go back and squeeze in a small Fat32 > partition on my desktop, along the lines of your suggestion, but > cannot for 10.1 on my laptop .. > > .. one thought - I'm on the internet in Linux through my wireless > local LAN network just fine, could Windows send stuff to Linux > over that LAN network ? > h k, you can let Linux (10.1) read the Windows NT file system but not (safely) write to it. If it's FAT32, no problems whatsoever. But Windows cannot write to Linux (I think it can't even "see" other filesystems than NT and FAT - but I'm not sure, have never used Windows). Another solution : If you have the dough, by an external USB hard disk with at least one FAT32 partition. Should be accessible from either OS. Glad you got the other things sorted out. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Finally, Denmark gets it right
On Saturday 05 March 2005 18:53, Paul wrote: > Op Sat, 5 Mar 2005 12:55:36 -0500 schreef h k ball: > >Kaj ... > > > >... that is really really good news, I would be proud too > > Luckily most of the government here in the netherlands agrees > also, that brussels should not push the software patent issue > through despite all opposition. > A motion to oppose to it has been accepted unanymously last > thursday. So that would make 3 against already. :-) Why didn't that hit the headlines, Paul ? - Sounds even nicer all the time. I think Spain is about to get itself together, too. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Finally, Denmark gets it right
On Saturday 05 March 2005 18:55, h k ball wrote: > Kaj ... > > ... that is really really good news, I would be proud too > > ... don't know how much you are into this EU / New World Order > thing, but the EU is very bad ... you all are being crushed by > added controls each day, and your freedoms are diminishing > accordingly ... not as bad here yet, figure the Western > Hemisphere version of EU about 5 years off .. > > HK > I couldn't possibly agree more, h k This EU monster (or is it mobster ?) is the heir of the Soviet Union. And - fortunately - will share its destiny. Now, our Sec.Trade, mr. Bendtsen, has to vote against the Software Patent Directive Monday. I guess he can expect a "friendly" call from Redmond tomorrow We'll see Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Finally, Denmark gets it right
Once in a while I'm proud to be a Dane...: http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=428 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How get from "dos" mode into KDE mode?
On Friday 04 March 2005 19:47, h k ball wrote: > (1) ... if I'm going to migrate to Linux from Windows I need to > transfer alot of files, there's got to be a better way from what > I'm doing, which is sending stuff to my webpage, then > accessing/downloading them through Firefox ... any more direct > way (haven't figured out how to communicate on my office LAN yet) Welcome back, h k... I didn't realize you were running 6.0, but it induces that nostalgic feeling in me. If, by any chance, you are dual-booting Linux and another OS, an easy way to transfer files is to create an extra FAT32 partition in the middle to share files. Most OS's can read and write to FAT32. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Friday 04 March 2005 02:57, JoeHill wrote: > On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 02:16:07 +0100 > > Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following: > > Sorry for my bad English.. > > Holy crap, Kaj, it was just a joke. Sorry if it offended anyone. > It wasn't in any way meant to make fun of someone's linguistic > abilities, one way or the other. Just a play on words that to one > person mean one thing, but can be interpreted so differently by > another, of course coming out of a differences in syntactictal > formations between languages. > > Anyhow, sorry again, didn't intend any malice, and I'll be more > careful in the future not to exploit such opportunities for my > own laffs, okay? OK Joe. -- We are all in the freedom business, so let us concentrate on essentials rather than formalities Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Friday 04 March 2005 02:57, Aron Smith wrote: > On Thursday 03 March 2005 05:16 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote: > > > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 > > > > > > Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: > > > > I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very > > > > pleasured. > > > > > > Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. > > > > Very funny comment indeed, Joe :-( > > > > I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most > > "Americans" here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet > > received the divine blessing of being brought up in the > > English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by > > the Lord. I'll admit that for sure. And I can't for the sake > > of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the > > Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ??? > > > > That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking > > newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his > > joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is > > received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and > > mis-syntaxing. > > > > A few years ago this list was friendlier. > > > > Sorry for my bad English.. > > Kaji ..If you give this bunch a bad pun they, will give you even > worse puns in return Huh...? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] any question
On Friday 04 March 2005 01:18, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 15:34:55 +0100 > > Stefan Tulak disseminated the following: > > I've installed mandrakelinux for one month and I'm very > > pleasured. > > Shite, I never got that kinda stimulation out of it. Very funny comment indeed, Joe :-( I Know it may come as an incomprehensible shock to most "Americans" here, but not everyone living on this tiny planet received the divine blessing of being brought up in the English/US/Redneck tongue. Of course that's a big mistake by the Lord. I'll admit that for sure. And I can't for the sake of me understand why he didn't let Mr. Gutenberg print the Bible in English rather than in Latin/Greek/Hebrew/Whatever ??? That aside, I feel ashamed when a non-rap-redneck-speaking newcomer (NRRSN for the Americans) to this list formulates his joy of becoming a member of the free community, and he is received by ridiculing comments about misspelling and mis-syntaxing. A few years ago this list was friendlier. Sorry for my bad English.. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Forum - OT
On Thursday 03 March 2005 13:01, Christopher Taylor wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 07:15:26 +, riccardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wednesday 02 March 2005 10:14 pm, Christopher Taylor wrote: > > > This is to help me in case I need to re-install > > > > In Linux, most things can be fixed, without re-installing. > > > > best rgds > > > > I'm still used to Windows. It would be nice not to have to > re-install and loose all the data. I think I'm going to like > this. > > Chris One of the best things in linux is exactly that. Allow me an advice : Â use the partitioning wisely. If you keep especially your /home directory on a separate partition you can keep all your personal files, settings and whatnot forever. Â Next time you install a newer version or do a kernel upgrade, just don't format that partition and everything will work right away. A good partitioning scheme for a complete newbie could look like this : Make a root partition (/) of about 10 GB Make a swap partition equal to your RAM size Make a /home partition on the rest. ...and for the file system, use a journalling one, like ReiserFS, ext3, XFS or JFS. (no file system for the swap partition). Of course one can elaborate ad infinitum on this, but IMHO this is the basics. Enjoy... Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Mardakesoft grows
On Thursday 24 February 2005 23:51, Glenn wrote: > On Thu February 24 2005 09:08, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 24 Feb 2005 15:44, Miark wrote: > > > This is good news for stockholders. Mandrakesoft is acquiring > > > Conectiva: > > > > > > http://www.mandrakesoft.com/company/press/pr?n=/pr/corporate/ > > >2539&wslang= en > > > > Apparently it gives them access to good R&D possibilities. It > > can't hurt to have access to South American markets, either. > > > > Anne > > I'm a little surprised that, after last years fears of > Mandrakesoft going down the tubes, they're in a position to > acquire another company. Good on them. > > Glenn I think they had to get a base outside the EU (and US ?) in order to survive the upcoming Patent Directive. Brazil seems a clever choice. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Resumption of DSL Connection
On Thursday 24 February 2005 14:54, SOTL wrote: > Hi All > > I have Mandrake 10.1 using an eathernet RJ45 DSL input. > > If I am connected to the internet and the RJ45 plug is unplugged > and plugged back in I loose my Internet connect and the ability > to reconnect to the internet. > > The only method I have found yet to restore an internet > connection is to do a system upgrade or reinstall the system. Now > since this is a test box with no critical data on it the only > issue with that box is the inconvenience of restoration which is > becoming a pain. If of course this was a box with critical data > on it the issue would be more dynamic. > > Question is there some other method to reestablish an internet > connection besides reinstallation. Note going to internet set up > and reconfiguring does not produce positive results of > reestablishing an internet connection. > > Thanks > Frank Not quite sure what you mean by "loose the internet connection" ? In any case, it should not require a complete re-install or upgrade. If you just unplug the RJ45 and plug it back later, try (as root) : service network restart or ifup eth0 or ifconfig eth0 If, on the other hand, you loose the connection permanently, I'm out of ideas. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Recommendations on external hard drive, please
On Friday 18 February 2005 18:04, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: > Dennis Myers wrote: > > On Friday 18 February 2005 05:05 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > >>I'm looking for an external USB hard drive with > 80 GB and > >> Mandrake compatible. The MDK hardware list seems a little > >> outdated and not very informative. And I know to avoid > >> Western Digital ones. > >> > >>Recommendations ? > >> > >>TIA > >> > >>Kaj Haulrich. > > > > Kaj, I have an Acomdata external that works well. Only thing is > > I have to remount it every time I boot up the comp. Have not > > figured out why it does not mount automatically. Anyway I see > > in harddrake that it has a Samsung harddrive. Mine is a 120gig. > > I would think that any of the usb externals should work at the > > plug in. HTH > > If you have more then one partition on a USB hard drive, then > drakupdate_fstab doesn't mount it. It isn't "smart" enough to > figure out what partitions are extended, and what partitons are > data partitions, so if it sees more then one, it plays it safe > and bails out. (drakupdate_fstab is called by hotplug when it > gets a USB storage device, to handle mounting it.) > > I am working on a way to handle this using udev, and I have it > working using udev, and supermount entries in fstab, but there > are still a couple of problems with it. My supermount entries > automaticly show up on the KDE desktop, and they always show that > they are mounted. They are there even if the drive isn't plugged > in. I think I have a way around it, but I have more work to do on > it... > > Mikkel Thanks, Mikkel and Dennis. Same problems here. Sometimes I',m ready to go fetch my shotgun and kill whatever application changes my fstab. Going to Copenhagen now hoping to find a Samsung or Maxtor external USB drive. Have a nice week-end all. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Recommendations on external hard drive, please
On Friday 18 February 2005 17:31, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Friday 18 February 2005 05:05 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I'm looking for an external USB hard drive with > 80 GB and > > Mandrake compatible. The MDK hardware list seems a little > > outdated and not very informative. And I know to avoid Western > > Digital ones. > > > > Recommendations ? > > > > TIA > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj, I have an Acomdata external that works well. Only thing is I > have to remount it every time I boot up the comp. Have not > figured out why it does not mount automatically. Anyway I see in > harddrake that it has a Samsung harddrive. Mine is a 120gig. I > would think that any of the usb externals should work at the plug > in. HTH Thanks, Dennis. Unfortunately Acomdata isn't available here in Denmark, but Samsung is. And I don't care if I have to mount it manually (my USB subsystem is severely broken anyway, so I'm used to it). Going to Copenhagen over the weekend, so maybe I can dig one up in a specialized store - I don't trust those giant "Computer Mart's" for anything linux related. Thanks for the advice, Dennis. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Recommendations on external hard drive, please
I'm looking for an external USB hard drive with > 80 GB and Mandrake compatible. The MDK hardware list seems a little outdated and not very informative. And I know to avoid Western Digital ones. Recommendations ? TIA Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How get from "dos" mode into KDE mode?
On Thursday 17 February 2005 19:33, h k ball wrote: > Kaj ... > > ... I'm in Atlanta, the bean counters are destroying us all on > every front ... > > (1) ... I'd love to, but no GUI > (2) .. how do I get in fb (frame buffer) mode ? > (3) .. XFdrake would be lovely if I could find it ... tried > whereis XF, find XF ... nothing .. (lastly) .. I don't know what > x server is, how do I tell if it's running ? ...h k maybe we should send some of our bean counters over, you know the bigger predator kills the smaller...OTOH I've read somewhere (Tom Clancy, perhaps ?) that within the American Police killing a lawyer isn't considered a crime at all... just an idea. The frame buffer question is a little hairy, depends on your graphics card, but take a look here : http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/BootPrompt-HOWTO-5.html In order to display a graphical interface Linux uses a X server. That's because Linux was designed as a networked system in the first place. You,ll definitely want one. Mandrake comes with a server from Xorg nowadays (earlier it was XFree86). It's on your CD's. At your command prompt (as root) try : urpmi xorg-x11 h k - Some recommendations : I think you'll need a few applications until you can get to the GUI. Just urpmi the following : slocate (a file database). After install, just (as root) run "updatedb". Then, to find a file, type : "locate ". mc (Midnight Commander). A Norton-like file manager and editor. To display your system, type :"mc". To edit a file, type :"mcedit ". When you have a GUI, you'll need the "drakes". Those are graphical configuration tools. Their names are descriptive, like "userdrake", "menudrake", "keyboarddrake" etc.. You can install them by (as root) : "urpmi --fuzzy drake" and then select the ones you want. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How get from "dos" mode into KDE mode?
On Thursday 17 February 2005 03:29, you wrote: > Kaj ... > > ... based on today's wanderings, have concluded > > (1) ... need to connect to the net in CLI mod (how???) > (2) ... download the Nvidia Vanta video card (how ? ... put in > what directory so Xconfigurator can find it ) > (3) ... rerun Xconfigurator > > (4) ... maybe then stuff will work, although ... > (5) ... XFdrake doesn't exist > (6) ... nothing containing "auth" exists > > HK > > ... looked at your web page, photos ... lovely daughter ... > article on healthcare, suits, accountants, etc made me laugh, > we're not far behind you in our deterioration ... Thanks, h k Where do you live ? I'm a little confused about what you're trying to do... (1) Why connect from the CLI ? - If you absolutely must then (as root) : "ifconfig eth0". That is if you use ethernet as your interface ? - Otherwise I'd recommend the GUI way for newbies, just : "mcc", then give root password. Go to Network & Internet and make your choices. (2) I don't have Nvidia, but I think you can use it in fb mode (frame buffer) without the Nvidia drivers until you get things sorted out. (3) I don't thing you need to run xconfigurator, only XFdrake. (4,5,6) You'll need to run XFdrake as root. Lastly, a dumb question : Do you have a x server running ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] login in to shell as default
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 15:31, Michael Hahn wrote: > Sorry for such a basic question - but I installed Mandrake 10.1 > last night on a server I'm setting up, and I wanted it to default > to the shell, rather than KDE, on boot. I can't seem to figure > out how to bypass the very pretty, but unnessary, to even get it > to just the shell. Edit your /etc/inittab : This line id:5:initdefault: to id:3:initdefault: HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 13:53, Michaël Van Dorpe wrote: > While I agree that this is an important issue and that you are > all on the right side, I think that you cannot deny that talking > about the "EU-politburo" is FUD as well. Giving examples of > patents on sandwiches, one-click ordering systems or > browser-plugins is not the way to go either, however stupid these > patents are. > > In any case, I thought this mailing list was about installing and > configuring mandrakelinux for newbies. > > If you think I'm wrong, you can safely ignore this message, I'm > not in a position to tell you what to talk about, and it doesn't > bother me. No, you're right - this actually should be on the OT list. Regards Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 11:53, M.Schild wrote: > > Thirdly, the present Patent issue is just "delayed", not > > removed.  No matter what the various parliaments (including > > the EU Parliament) decides, the Politburo doesn't care one bit. > > Microsoft, Siemens, Nokia etc..  still "owns" the Commissars, > > the Eurocrats and  politicians. > > Yes but parts of Spain have already moved to Linux. The french > administration is getting Linux severs. Several large towns in > Germany use Linux ( Munich and/orBerlin I think) > Will these people be ready to go the Gates way? > Maryse Well, I know that the Extramadura region, the City of Munich, the City of Bergen and maybe Vienna has moved. On the other hand, the City of Paris, the City of Newham and the entire British National Health Service caved in to Microsoft's "offers they couldn't refuse". Don't know about the French administration, though. But the problem isn't Linux vs. Microsoft. It's about standards and patents. When the EU Politburo allows software patents Microsoft will be able to dictate how the public administration communicates with citizens : only closed, proprietary protocols will be allowed, forcing all of us to pay the Microsoft tax. And bye-bye to software development : can you name me just one invention (aside from FUD) made by Microsoft ? There's an excellent article by RMS here : http://news.com.com/Bill+Gates+and+other+communists/2010-1071_3-5576230.html?tag=nefd.ac Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 01:27, JoeHill wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:12:31 +0100 > > Kaj Haulrich disseminated the following: > > Anyway, the EU doesn't have a head (=brain) > > Apparently some of them do: > > Quote: > > "The Commission regrets very much that the software patent will > not be on the agenda. It has been removed," Commission spokesman > Olivier Drewes told a news conference. > > Link: > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050211133435297 > > 'Course, the US of Microsoft wasn't all too happy about that: > > http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20050215071109231 > > It ain't all bad, a united Europe has more of a chance of > standing up to this sort of corporate extortion, IMO. Well Joe, first and foremost : EUrabia will never be united. On the contrary, it is decaying rapidly. Exactly like its predecessor, the Soviet Union. Secondly, when the present EU with its Central Committee - eh - Commission and Politburo -eh - Council has vanished into the scrapyard of history maybe democracy get another chance in some parts of Europe. Thirdly, the present Patent issue is just "delayed", not removed. No matter what the various parliaments (including the EU Parliament) decides, the Politburo doesn't care one bit. Microsoft, Siemens, Nokia etc.. still "owns" the Commissars, the Eurocrats and politicians. Read on : http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=351 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] a TAR OOPS
On Wednesday 16 February 2005 05:21, BJ Tracy wrote: > Hello All, > > I just downloaded Firefox 1.0 and placed the tar.gz in my home > directory, did the tar and installed it. However during the > install it was placed in my directory. > > Where should all the files go so my gui will know where it is? It seems you didn't follow the easy way, namely to "urpmi mozilla-firefox", but downloaded the tarball from the Mozilla.org site. In that case, it doesn't matter where the tarball is extracted, but in order to install it system-wide (i.e. accessible to all users) you'll have to become root. During this setup you will be prompted to choose a location for the executables. A clever choice might be /usr/lib or /usr/local. After the install completes, run it first time as root (I think that's automatic). After that, you can add it to your menu with the menu editor. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 21:16, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 11:46 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 16:53, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:29 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > Here is what you can expect when the EU directive gets > > > > approved > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Working closely with the patent office Mr Holland > > > > eventually settled for his now granted patent on methods of > > > > inserting food or beverage into the mouth for chewing, in > > > > order to be later swallowed and digested by the stomach. > > > > > > > > > > > > The link is here : > > > > > > > > http://www.danamania.com/gl/article.php?story=2005021421545 > > > >4591 > > > > > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > > > Kaj: > > > Silly me. I thought that prior art was established in the > > > Book of Genesis. -- cmg > > > > Well, I guess the Patent office (or is that orifice ?) never > > heard about that book... > > > > Now, when this madness comes to the EU I'll apply for a patent > > on going to the head with my behind. > > > > Sorry for my bad English. > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj: > Sorry, but your idea isn't patentable. It's the prior art thing. > After all, the US Patent Office operates in head-up-butt mode > every day. A few years ago, a guy got a patent in his child's > name that covered swinging on a child's swing from side to side > rather than the conventional front to back motion. I contemplated > filing one for swinging cattywampus on behalf of my grandson, but > decided that I shouldn't feed the madness. Well, that and it > costs more than two bucks to file a patent. > -- cmg OK Caroll, maybe "the US Patent Office operates in head-up-butt mode every day" but do they own the patent ? - And if they've got their heads where you say, how can they find the head (= john) ? Anyway, the EU doesn't have a head (=brain) at all but lots of behinds (big, big ones) so I still believe I can take out a patent on placing those butts in heads (=johns). Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] How get from "dos" mode into KDE mode?
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 20:07, h k ball wrote: > ... sent this last night, but think to the wrong place > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) ... > - >--- so far I have: > > (1) made a 2.5 meg Linux Ext2 partition and a .5 meg Linux SWAP > partition with Partition Magic ... > > (2) Using the Mandrake installation disks, got to > "Congratulations installation is complete!" ... installed about > 400 meg of files, including KDE, GNOME and associated graphics > stuff ... > > (3) have successfully logged on into what I call the "dos-like" > mode, been able to use > > ls /bin -al |less, |more > linuxconf > man man > cd, su, exit > Xconfigurator (struggle picking a comparable video card, finally > found one) > > (4) can reboot back and forth between Windows 2000, XP and Linux > on same machine with no problem, everything still works just fine > ... > > (5) have not been able to get out of the "dos" mode and into the > "windows" mode, namely KDE ... how do I do that ?? > > (6) 700 mHz, 256meg ram, 20 gig hd, Nvidia Vanta video card, > Intel ... > > hk ball Congratulations and welcome. You did fine. "DOS" mode is what we call the "CLI", the shell, the konsole, the terminal etc.. CLI=Command Line Interface. From here you can do everything (well, almost). For example get to the GUI (Graphical User Interface), like KDE, Gnome or whatever. Just type :"startx" (without the quotes). If you prefer to boot directly into the GUI, just (as root) edit the file /etc/inittab and change id:3:initdefault: to id:5:initdefault: That's all. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
On Tuesday 15 February 2005 16:53, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Tuesday 15 February 2005 06:29 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Here is what you can expect when the EU directive gets approved > > : > > > > > > Working closely with the patent office Mr Holland eventually > > settled for his now granted patent on methods of inserting food > > or beverage into the mouth for chewing, in order to be later > > swallowed and digested by the stomach. > > > > > > The link is here : > > > > http://www.danamania.com/gl/article.php?story=20050214215454591 > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj: > Silly me. I thought that prior art was established in the Book of > Genesis. -- cmg Well, I guess the Patent office (or is that orifice ?) never heard about that book... Now, when this madness comes to the EU I'll apply for a patent on going to the head with my behind. Sorry for my bad English. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] US Patents coming to a place near you...
Here is what you can expect when the EU directive gets approved : Working closely with the patent office Mr Holland eventually settled for his now granted patent on methods of inserting food or beverage into the mouth for chewing, in order to be later swallowed and digested by the stomach. The link is here : http://www.danamania.com/gl/article.php?story=20050214215454591 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] EU software patents : Blackmail
From today's Danish newspapers : Bill Gates threatens to close Navision in Denmark http://www.jp.dk/english_news/artikel:aid=2891396/ Kaj haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: unsupported scanner
On Monday 14 February 2005 11:10, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > >e can select a related > >model of the same make and get it running. > > Canon 3000F - and I had wondered about using related driver. > > Cheers > Rosemary > Seems to be a USB scanner. In your place I would give it a try with xsane. Eventually, try Vuescan from Hamrick Software. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Re: unsupported scanner
On Monday 14 February 2005 01:50, you wrote: > >No, scanners use *sane* (Scanner Access Now Easy) as a backend. > >You'll have to install that in order to scan. Furthermore, look > >here to see if your scanner is supported : > > > >http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl > > > >Then, urpmi Charles' xsane & xsane-gimp > > > >Enjoy > > > >Kaj Haulrich. > > Checked that page and scanner is unsupported. Does this mean I > will never get it going, or just that it would be a fiddle to do > it? > > Thanks > Rosemary What scanner would that be ? - Sometimes one can select a related model of the same make and get it running. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] If you play Go
On Monday 14 February 2005 10:03, Anne Wilson wrote: > Some of you will remember Femme Fatale. She asks me to pass on > to you a url for a distro based on Damn Small Linux which is > dedicated to Go. The description says > > 'Welcome to Hikarunix, the only operating system dedicated to Go. > This CD was designed especially for Go players of all levels. > Whether you've been playing for decades or have never heard of > the game until now, this CD is for you.' > > If it is of interest to you, go to http://www.hikarunix.org/ > > Anne Anne, If you're over in Canada right now please give Femme a great hug from me I hope she's well ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Fwd: Re: [newbie] Updates
Sorry, I replied to Rosemary only (who hasn't cleared her "reply to" field. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: [newbie] Updates Date: Sunday 13 February 2005 10:31 From: Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday 13 February 2005 10:14, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Saturday 12 Feb 2005 22:43, Charles A Edwards wrote: > > >For Anne > > > > > >xsane-0.97-0.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm > > >xsane-gimp-0.97-0.1010.1mdk.i586.rpm > > > > Thanks, Charles. I've got Acquire in Gimp2 for the first time. > > Wonderful. > > > > Anne > > Are these drivers for scanners? Newbie with scanner not > compatible. Rosemary No, scanners use *sane* (Scanner Access Now Easy) as a backend. You'll have to install that in order to scan. Furthermore, look here to see if your scanner is supported : http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl Then, urpmi Charles' xsane & xsane-gimp Enjoy Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* --- -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Program to download all the files on a http address
On Saturday 12 February 2005 23:45, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:13:54 +0100, Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Well, Dennis, I do have a urpmi source set up for contrib > > > rpms, but it does not have gwget. What urpmi source for > > > contrib rpms do you use? > > > > I've got it here: > > > > ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/offi > >cial/10.1/i586/media/contrib/ > > Thanks, Kaj. It is strange, but the mirror I use does not have > gwget. > > Is there a way of selecting the files to download by its > extension, i.e., can one download only rpm files, for instance? > > Paul As far as I remember one can add the option : --restrict-file-names or some such (I don't have access to the manpages right now), but it should be doable. Try man wget if you've got the manpages. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: Program to download all the files on a http address
On Saturday 12 February 2005 21:22, Paul Smith wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 13:57:48 -0600, Dennis Myers > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It is in "contrib" if you have a urpmi source set up for the > > contrib rpms, just do the su passwd and "urpmi gwget". HTH > > Well, Dennis, I do have a urpmi source set up for contrib rpms, > but it does not have gwget. What urpmi source for contrib rpms do > you use? > > Paul I've got it here: ftp://ftp.proxad.net/pub/Distributions_Linux/Mandrakelinux/official/10.1/i586/media/contrib/ Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] graphics question
On Wednesday 09 February 2005 14:28, Omar wrote: > Hi all, >Maybe this question should not be on this list, but I didn't > know where else to put it. I have around 400 jpeg images and I > want to put 3x2 images on an A4 size document, preferrably in PDF > format. Is there a way to do this in Mandrake 10.1. I recall > having this kind of functionality in Photoshop. Any ideas > suggestions?? Thanks... Omar I'm not quite sure what you mean, but if you just want to place 6 photos on the document, you can use OpenOffice. Set the page to A4, select Insert-->Graphics-->From file. Then you can manipulate the photos around, and when finished, File-->Export as PDF. If, on the other hand, you want a batch command to do it I'm not aware of any, but maybe the "mogrify" command in ImageMagick is a way to go. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problem - ?disc not being read
On Monday 07 February 2005 23:25, you wrote: > >Sometimes it refuses to boot from CD1, in that case try CD2, > > it'll prompt you to change disks later on. > > > >BTW two things : > > > >1. please don't post in html. Most people here filter > > html-messages out before they get read. > > > >2. please remove your "reply to" field in your mailer. If not, > >messages will go to you only, not this list. > > > >Welcome to Linux, Rosemary. > > Thanks Kaj > > Hope I've got the settings correct this time. I'll let the list > know how I get on with the insertion of CD2, but realise I need > to be sure about a couple of other things first. I'll post > separately. Thanks again > Rosemary You are welcome, Rosemary. A small advice : you can find some useful information here : http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Starter.html/bigfat-warning.html Kaj haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Flashplayer problem
On Monday 07 February 2005 17:15, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 07 February 2005 08:19 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > I'll fiddle with it until I bork the box...;-) > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > "Box-borker"...hmm, I think you've just coined a new, politically > (in)correct label... > > Seriously, I hope you get it fixed soon. Thanks, Ronald. English not being my native tongue, I'd be happy to make a small contribution to it, only I think it was the Swedish chef in the Muppet show who invented the term. Later on, when Microsoft made their homepage inaccessible to the Opera browser, the Norwegians released a borked browser, remember ? And, if there is one thing I am not, it is political correct... Still borking my box ;-) Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Flashplayer problem
On Monday 07 February 2005 21:09, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Monday 07 Feb 2005 14:58, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > Kaj, here its in: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] darklord]$ locate libnsplugin.la > > /usr/lib/libnsplugin.la > > > > It looks like kdebase-nsplugins-3.1.3-79.2.92mdk.rpm provides > > it here, under v9.2. If you're running 10.x, it might be > > slightly different. > > Wasn't there an update last week to correct the fact that that > package was missing? > > Package name: kdebase > Advisory ID:MDKA-2005:005-1 > Date: January 31st, 2005 > Original Advisory Date: January 27th, 2005 > Affected versions: 10.1 Thanks, Ronald & Anne... Now, for some reason I can't urpmi kdebase-nsplugins. When doing so it want to install kdebase-kcontrol-nsplugins as well, but hangs. I've even downloaded those files by hand, but no go. I have a suspicion, though : I've installed Mozilla 1.7.5 from Charles' site, so maybe there is some incompatibility issues with the original Mozilla 1.7.3 from Mandrake ? I'll fiddle with it until I bork the box...;-) Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Flashplayer problem
When trying to open shockwave flash apps, I can get the movie but no sound. The error says : "There was an error loading the module Netscape plugin viewer. The diagnostics is: Library files for "libnsplugin.la" not found in paths" ??? - I don't have Netscape installed, only Mozilla, Firefox, Konqueror and Opera. Same problem. Furthermore, I can't find this "libnsplugin.la" with locate or rpm -q --whatprovides libnsplugin.la Ideas, anyone ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Installation problem - ?disc not being read
On Monday 07 February 2005 04:40, Rosemary McGillicuddy wrote: > Kaj Haulrich wrote: > happens. I rebooted with disc in situ and get the window with > the two options " press F1' and "enter to install" Looked at F1 > and then pressed enter. It appeared to start installing but then > the monitor went black, with the words "proceeding, please wait > ..." I waited 20 mins but no activity apparent i.e. no noise > from box, and the indicator light not lit. > > How long should I wait? Could it be my BIOS settings still. > > > Any help greatly appreciated. > Thanks Rosemary > > > Eh... forgive me if I ask a dumb question, Rosemary : > > You aren't by any chance trying to install Mandrake from within > Windows, right ? > > The part that gives me such notions is : > > " I put the first disc in and the options highlight when I hover > the cursor. Clicking on the right hand options of "discover on > line store", receive assistance" and 'keep your computer up to > date' cause Firefox to load and a request to connect to > internet." > > In order to install a new operating system, you'll have to shut > down the 'puter, place the install CD in the cupholder and power > on. Then, you will not have any cursor, firefox, "discover" or > "assistance" messages until the whole caboodle is up and running. > Instead you'll see an old-fashioned text screen reading something > like " In second stage install". > > If I'm totally wrong, please ignore this post. I didn't mean to > insult you. > > Yes - I was initially then realised I needed to reboot and did so > - see above. How long should that process take? I'll have > another try anway. Thanks for replying. > > Rosemary Sorry for misreading you, Rosemary The boot process on a relatively new system will start almost immediately, and the whole install-procedure anywhere between 15 minutes and several hours, depending on the amount of applications you want to install. Sometimes it refuses to boot from CD1, in that case try CD2, it'll prompt you to change disks later on. BTW two things : 1. please don't post in html. Most people here filter html-messages out before they get read. 2. please remove your "reply to" field in your mailer. If not, messages will go to you only, not this list. Welcome to Linux, Rosemary. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Re: A little light in the EU darkness
On Saturday 05 February 2005 23:58, Björn Lundin wrote: > Anders Lind wrote: > > I am perhaps treading in on MandrakeOT-domains here but I do > > get the feeling that the dane doesn't like EU ;o) > > And still they joined in '73 I think. However the most EU hostile > (within EU) country in most polls are Sweden, which should ring a > bell to Anders, I guess :) > > > /Anders Correct. Denmark joined in 1973 after a very marginal "yes" referendum. And we still keep our distance from much of the EU rigmarole like military, police, monetary and environmental matters. I don't know how Sweden fares, but last I looked they still have their own currency. The brightest of the Nordic states however is Norway and Iceland, who are still free countries. Luckily, the EU is about to self-destruct. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Dumbest test I've ever seen
Don't bother looking here : http://www.choice.com.au/viewArticle.aspx?id=104575&catId=100276&tid=18&p=1 And here I thought the Aussies were bright :-( Stephen and Franki : don't you have asylums down under ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] urpmi agony still
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 16:55, Paul wrote: > Hi everyone, > > The urpmi source called > ftp://ftp.fh-wolfenbuettel.de/pub/os/linux/mandrakelinux/official >/updates/10.0/RPMS is still not working. Can someone tell me how I > get rid of that resource? Can't you just remove it in System-->Configuration-->Packaging--> Software media Manager ? If you don't use a GUI, then (as root) urpmi.removemedia [name]. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Tuesday 01 February 2005 01:52, Paul wrote: > A tool that we could use. Which politician, after receiving 5 or > 10, 000 mails regarding something he knew nothing about, wouldn't > have a twinge of worry about his future? Thanks for your comments, Paul. I agree completely. Nowadays we've got another, effective weapon : the Internet. Some political parties here wanted to look trendy, so they sat up blogs. This turned out two be a sword with two, sharp sides. By allowing comments from average citizens, they exposed themselves to embarrassing questions and found out they couldn't get away with their usual blabbermouthed gobbledygook. So, lately, they tend to think twice and ask people in the knowing before they answer. Progress, I think. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Monday 31 January 2005 18:01, Anders Lind wrote: > On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 17:39:36 +0100 > > Kaj Haulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - > > conservative) just voted "yes" in the Politburo, - err - > > Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician > > doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he > > just follows the big guys. And his "advisers" i.e. the > > bureaucrats in the public service know even less. > > > > Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some > > fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland > > put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke > > up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, > > wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of > > losing voters in case they lost their minds. > > > > Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online > > magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot > > brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? > > I am perhaps treading in on MandrakeOT-domains here but I do get > the feeling that the dane doesn't like EU ;o) > > /Anders What on earth makes you think so, Anders ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
On Monday 31 January 2005 18:59, Paul wrote: > On Mon, 2005-01-31 at 14:52, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software > > patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to > > the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some > > focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig > > Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. > > > > The announcement is here (in Danish) : > > http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Good news, kaj. > > Was it Denmark that the commission decided were going to vote > yes, stopping it from getting thrown out? > > If I recall, someone in government found out what was going on > and started making a fuss. No, the way I see it our Sec.Trade (Mr. Bendt Bendtsen - conservative) just voted "yes" in the Politburo, - err - Commission out of sheer ignorance. Of course a politician doesn't know the first thing about matters like this, so he just follows the big guys. And his "advisers" i.e. the bureaucrats in the public service know even less. Then, the Central Committee - err - the Parliament made some fuss, and the matter went back to the Politburo. Here, Poland put in on hold. Now, the software industry here finally woke up and started a petition. And many Danes, including myself, wrote emails to the various political parties warning them of losing voters in case they lost their minds. Finally the matter came to attention through newspapers, online magazines and TV. And the Sec.State (Mr. Moeller) is a lot brighter than Mr. Bendtsen, so maybe there's hope after all ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] A little light in the EU darkness
Denmark is now ready to postpone the decision on software patents in Europe. The battle between political parties up to the upcoming elections Feb. 8. has brought this into some focus. Today the Danish secretary of state, Mr. Per Stig Moeller agreed to postpone the issue, and thus support Poland. The announcement is here (in Danish) : http://politiken.dk/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=357932 Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Archives
On Saturday 29 January 2005 00:09, Noel McG. wrote: > I realize that this has been asked before but can someone give me > the add for the newbie archives please. > > Thanks. http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/maillist.html Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Connecting a Linux computer to a MS Windows network
On Friday 28 January 2005 02:28, Bryan Phinney wrote: > Luckily for me, the screensaver was up and I use a generic one so > Goober didn't even know what OS I was running. I booted back > over to Windows, let it update and then switched right back to > Linux. After that, I told them that I had installed VMWare (for > Testing purposes) and that it just looked like I had Linux > installed. With the McDonald's rejects that get hired for tech > support these days, I am not too concerned that I am going to get > outsmarted or called on it. > > If you don't have the drive space, get Mandrake Move (Live CD) or > one of the other varieties, put your config files on a small > folder set aside for the purpose and boot directly from the CD. > If someone happens to come by, simply pull the plug, and complain > that this is the 20th time today that Windows has crashed on your > computer and I guarantee you won't see a tech around for another > month. Good one, Bryan ! To supplement : At my hospital, the "techies" are just those McDonald's rejects. They force me to have Windows on my office PC, which is impractical for a surgeon (working with a blood pressure way up in the paint cards makes my hands tremble). So, every morning I just throw my Knoppix into the cupholder and off we go. And I still refuse to help my colleagues out when their Windows boxes turn blue, 'cause I never use the crap. Now, just to keep the "techies" away from my PC, whenever I leave my office I just use this "screensaver" (see attached picture). Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* <> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Thanks for help with Mozilla
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 21:28, Julie Sloan wrote: > Thanks to everyone who helped with my recent Mozilla problem > (under the header "locked directory"). > > ...for the record, Mozilla-1.7.5 _will_ run under Mandrake 10.0. >The urpmi sources I found for this version of Mozilla were all > Mandrake 10.1 specific, so I found it easiest to download the > 12Mb tar.gz here: > > http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ > > I used Konqueror to download the tarball to my desktop, and > proceeded in a terminal in this manner: > > $su > $(my password) > (sign in as root) > #mkdir /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5 > (make a directory to place the installer in > permanently) #mv > ~/Desktop/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.5-installer.tar.gz > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5/mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.5-installer. >tar.gz (move the downloaded file to that directory) #cd > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5 > (go there - probably an unnecessary step, but saves > typing the full path every time; this also enables me to run > "ls -a" to find the exact name of the file I want to > manipulate) > #tar -zxvf > ./mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7.5-installer.tar.gz (unpacked the > tarball, which created "mozilla-installer" directory within > /usr/lib/mozilla-1.7.5) > #cd ./mozilla-installer > (moved into that directory - probably unnecesssary, > see above) #./mozilla-installer > (this command ran the installer, which asked if I'd > like to place mozilla in/usr/local/mozilla to which I > replied yes) #cd/usr/local/mozilla > (I followed the mozilla stuff to its new home) > #./mozilla > (ran the program for the first time, as root, which > is necessary for some reason. Note: I did not set up any > preferences, mail account, etc as root but instead logged out and > logged back in as user to set up the mozilla account.) > > > please see: > > http://www.mozilla.org/docs/end-user/guide/get-started.html > > for more explanations and FAQ. > > > hth someone, sometime. > > Julie Congratulation, Julie. -- Just a few remarks : You did the whole process as root, which isn't necessary. You can download it anywhere and untar it as a normal, unprivileged user. Only the final step, running the actual install script should be done as root if you want all users on the system to use mozilla. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] locked directory
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 00:07, Julie Sloan wrote: > I disabled my "reply to " option in webmail but it's magically > re-enabled itself. Please adjust your replies, since I can't > seem to... Julie, why are you using webmail ??? While you are in the process of installing Mozilla, just install mozilla-mail as well. (I think it comes default with the version from mozilla.org). Or use one of the innumerable mailers that come with Mandrake (Evolution, KMail, Sylpheed, Thunderbird, mutt, pine, Opera.. you name it). Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] locked directory
On Wednesday 26 January 2005 00:07, Julie Sloan wrote: > >If you want the 1.7.3 version go to Charles' site : > >http://www.eslrahc.com/ > >and download it to some directory. Then, change into that > >directory, become root and type "urpmi moz" and hit tab, then > >enter. - Or you could add Charles' site as a source, but that's > >another beast. > > I have Charles' site as a source, and I looked there and > don't see any Mozilla at all in the Mandrake 10.0 > subsection Sorry, Julie. Charles has Mozilla 1.7.5 but only for 10.1. I don't know if it will work on 10.0, but I would try. If it doesn't, you can always download it from here : http://www.mozilla.org/products/mozilla1.x/ This version isn't a .rpm, but comes with its own installer. I would install it in /usr/local or /usr/lib. That way it's easy to add it to your menu system with the Kmenu editor. If you don't like it, just delete the mozilla directory. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] locked directory
> On Tuesday 25 January 2005 21:19, Julie Sloan wrote: > > suddenly I have a padlock icon on my/root directory. The > > contents of the directory are as follows: > > > > # ls -a > > ./ .cshrc .gnome/ .qt/ > > .xauthNME5mc ../drakx/ .gnome2/ > > .rnd .xauthoAxEUc .bash_history .fonts.cache-1 > > .gnome2_private/ .rpmdrake .Xdefaults .bash_logout .gconf/ > > .gstreamer/ .tcshrc .bash_profile .gconfd/ > > .ICEauthority tmp/ > > .bashrc.gimp-1.2/ .kde/ .vimrc > > Your /root directory is where the "user" root has his things like > configurartions etc...Under no circumstances should you use this > directory for running applications like mail, browsers or > anything else for that matter. That's why the Mandrake security > system called msec normally puts a padlock on this, so other > users, including your normal self "user Julie" doesn't have > access. > > Now, your /root has the permissions 700. That means that "root" > can read, write and execute things here, others can not. That's > the way it should be. To verify this, from the / directory, type > "ll" (that'll be the letters) and your /root directory should be > : drwx-- 21 root root 1032 Jan 24 22:06 root/ > or something similar corresponding to the octal value of 700. > Don't change it. > > > What may have caused this is I tried to remove my Mozilla > > program to install a newer version. However, I ended up with a > > /.mozilla/ directory in /also with a padlock on the > > icon. > > How did you install Mozilla in the first place ? - If you just > (as root) typed "urpmi mozilla", you'll have 1.6. To uninstall > it, just (as root) type "urpme mozilla". > > If, on the other hand, you installed it with the install script > from Mozilla.org, it probably ended up in a directory of its own, > namely /usr/mozilla or /usr/local/mozilla. To remove it, just > delete the whole mozilla directory. > > > I've looked in the MCC/security (I'm on Mandrake 10.0, > > running the KDE desktop environment) and find the permissions > > on the locked /root are 700 and I can't change them; my > > security level is (was) set at 2 with all defaults. > > A msec set at level 2 would certainly keep me sleepness all > night. Are you a daring, young lady who likes parachuting, cliff > hanging, travelling alone in Iraq and leaving your house unlocked > with the safe wide open ? > > > Am I imagining things, or is this padlock a new thing? If it's > > new, how do I fix it? > > No, this padlock has been there for ages, luckily. Don't "fix" > it. Be happy. > > > Mozilla won't let itself be uninstalled either - - I urpmi'd > > Mozilla and got the old 1.6 browser instead of the new 1.7.5 > > which is why I'm making this new mess today. I'll just complete > > the mess by instlling the new one despite the old one still in > > residence (which mozilla.org says not to do) - - I can always > > start again from scratch > > See above. If you want the 1.7.3 version go to Charles' site : > http://www.eslrahc.com/ > and download it to some directory. Then, change into that > directory, become root and type "urpmi moz" and hit tab, then > enter. - Or you could add Charles' site as a source, but that's > another beast. In order to let others correct me, I re-posted this. Too late I discovered that Julie has her "reply to" field set, so answers go to her and not to the list. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] antivirus
Dave Needham wrote: do i need antivirus checker and can any one suggest which one to run and is easy to install. dave On Linux no anti virus is needed. The one and only reason to run an anti virus app on Linux is this situation : You use a Linux box as a mail server or relay to Windows boxes elsewhere. Then you could propagate those viruses to them. Linux itself is immune. And, by the way, please blank out your "reply to" field. If not, our answers go to you directly, not to this list. Kaj Haulrich. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Swap partion
On Monday 24 January 2005 14:44, Tom Brinkman wrote: > On Sunday 23 January 2005 03:29 pm, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > Tom Brinkman wrote : > > > > " I always prefer to put /swap as the first partition (hd?1) on > > a drive. R/W's slow as much as 40% the further down a partition > > is on a drive, regardless of the drive's rpms, size, number of > > disks, age, etc. " > > > > This puzzles me : I've always believed that a harddisk had its > > first cylinders at the center. This should give a slower > > radial velocity. Furthermore, if the read/write arm has its > > idle position at the perimeter it should travel a longer > > distance to the swap partition. > > > > But maybe I got it all upside/down ? > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Sort'a. HDD, the sectors on the outer perimeter are passing > under the r/w arm at a faster speed than the inner rings. First > partitions are on the outer rings. Now it is just the opposite > with CD drives, which are recorded from the inner ring to the > outer edge. Anyhow, back to HDD's, I believe the track location > (inner/outer) has a much bigger effect than distance the r/w arm > has to travel. r/w arms move so quickly back'n forth they'd put > a humming bird's wings to shame. Also, today's large drives have > multiple platters and r/w arms. Which BTW, 'park' by the outer > rings. http://computer.howstuffworks.com/hard-disk.htm Thanks Tom, that cleared things up for me. Only this remains : If the first partitions are on the outer ring, this of course gives a faster spin-by. Now, every platter is divided into sectors or slices, each containing the same, fixed amount of bytes. Accordingly, the radial velocity being constant, each sector passes by the r/w head in exactly the same time. Or, to put in another way, the bytes on the outer rings are more dispersed than on the inner ? My brain hurts. Better have another ;-) Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] What is urpmi?
On Monday 24 January 2005 00:47, Mike Chalmers wrote: > Will someone tell me what urpmi is? OK, before I fall asleep : All Open Source software is available as *source code*, i.e. written text. As such an application can be downloaded to your hard drive. Then, you face the challenge to compile it. That's not for the faint-at-heart, because inevitably you'll run into the cumbersome *dependency hell*. Which means that your desired application needs other applications in order to compile. - But it is doable. To make things a little easier, RedHat developed a method called *rpm* (RedhatPackageManager). This means pre-compiled, binary collections of files, constituting an application. Of course, there's a trade-off here : in order to install correctly, the system must be configured in pre-defined ways, such as per distribution (Red Hat). But the *rpm* packages do not resolve the *dependency* problem. This means, that when you install a *.rpm* you'll have to install other *.rpms* first. The procedure will tell you which ones. But this is time-consuming. Then, another distribution (Debian) invented a smarter method : the *apt-get* procedure. Here, all dependencies are resolved, and when you type : *apt-get -install * the dependencies are resolved, downloaded, installed prior to the application itself. Very smart and efficient. These packages have the extension *deb*. Originally, Mandrake was derived from RedHat. The main difference was the Graphical User Interface (GUI). Where RedHat used Gnome, Mandrake used KDE. That doesn't matter, it is a question of personal liking. But Mandrake uses *rpm*. Now, in order to be as user-friendly as Debian, the Mandrake developers invented *urpmi*. I honestly don't know what *u* stands for, but a qualified guess would be *Uniform Redhat Package Manager Installer* - or some such. Anyway, it is really, really smart. The only pre-requisite to using *urpmi* is that you have defined some *sources*. Which means that you'll have to find some servers to supply you. That's easy as well : Go to : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ And follow instructions EXACTLY. You can choose a multitude of servers for each category (main, contrib, updates,plf), but not all servers get updated regularly, so please experiment. As a rule of thumb : select servers on the other side of the globe, because they tend to be idle when you are awake ;-) This accomplished, installing software is as easy as it gets : 1. The GUI method : Just click the *System-->Configuration-->Packaging-->Install Software* or (and that's the way we prefer here, because you can see what's going on) : 2. Open a terminal (Konsole), type *su*, give root-password and type : *urpmi *. You'll love it. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] SOS
On Sunday 23 January 2005 22:14, teguh wrote: > Hello guys, > First of all.I'm completely newbie in Linux so I need your > help. 1.how to connect to internet using Linux (Mandrake 10.0)? > 2.My printer(Epson LX 300) can not print? Welcome teguh First : In order for us to help you, please give a lot more info, like : Type of conncection (dial-up, DSL, wireless, LAN, direct etc..) Type of interface (Ethernet, USB, etc.. ?) Graphical interface (KDE, Gnome, ICEwm, Fluxbox, XFCE etc...) How did you install ( normally you set up the connection during install) What did your ISP tell you about IP (static/dynamic) and DNS ? Then - please return on another thread with your printer problem. This way we _may_ be able to help you. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
[newbie] Swap partion
Tom Brinkman wrote : " I always prefer to put /swap as the first partition (hd?1) on a drive. R/W's slow as much as 40% the further down a partition is on a drive, regardless of the drive's rpms, size, number of disks, age, etc. " This puzzles me : I've always believed that a harddisk had its first cylinders at the center. This should give a slower radial velocity. Furthermore, if the read/write arm has its idle position at the perimeter it should travel a longer distance to the swap partition. But maybe I got it all upside/down ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] I just love it
On Sunday 23 January 2005 20:31, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >By golly ,it worked. It is in linux now. Now I have to > figure out how to gunzip it. I assume it is done in a terminal, > but as super user, root, or just plain me. >Thanks for the drag and drop hint. It was telling me > something about can't read it, but when I looked the file was > there. Jallan, I'm a little late into this thread, but just two things : 1. Please bottom-post (standard here, more readable). 2. You can decompress (unzip) in the command line, by typing : "gunzip <-options> filename" - that is if you have gzip installed. Or, in konqueror (if you use KDE), just right-click the file and choose Action-->Extract here. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] URPMI
On Sunday 23 January 2005 15:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > NEED THE URL OF THE URPMI UPDATES PLEASE Here's is one, for a start : ftp://ftp.rediris.es/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake/updates/ You didn't mention your Mandrake version, so just scroll down to the one you have. On the other hand, why not choose the easy way : http://easyurpmi.zarb.org/ or http://www.linuxfordummies.org/addmedia/ Then you can select a mirror closer to you, although the Spanish one I mentioned is pretty fast updated. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] openoffice segfaulting
On Saturday 22 January 2005 22:00, JR wrote: > I downloaded OOo 2.0 beta, and it works fine for me. Thanks to > all who helped. > > Jarlath Out of curiosity : did you compile it yourself or install a rpm ? As far as I can see, there's only rpms for RedHat ? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] GPG
On Friday 21 January 2005 20:12, eric jackson wrote: > Forgive me but after reading through the archives I can't seem to > find an answer to my question although I'm sure it's been asked > before. > > When I try to install an rpm I often get an error saying "The > following packages... have bad signatures... I know that means > that means the GPG key is missing but I don't know what to do to > correct the problem. > > Thanks for your help. > > Eric Jackson It means you haven't downloaded the key. You can do so, or just ignore that message. If your sources are Ok (never heard the opposite), just continue. I do it all the time. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie]
On Thursday 20 January 2005 22:35, Matt Florido wrote: > I was wondering if M10.1 already has a Webmail package. If not, > I'm looking for suggestions on one. The only one I know of is > SquirrelMail. > > Thanks! > > Matt I don't think so. Webmail is usually run by the ISP companies. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sorting out fstab
On Thursday 20 January 2005 15:00, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Thursday 20 January 2005 07:25 am, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > On Thursday 20 January 2005 12:07, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 11:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > > > At least you're not alone. Some time ago there was a > > > > thread about "the ghost in the machine". It turned out the > > > > culprit was supermount. This devil have plagued us for > > > > years now. In 10.1 is worse than ever, if I may have a > > > > say. To me it seems that this ghost has a will of its own, > > > > randomly changing /etc/fstab. For example my fstab changes > > > > in unpredictable ways whenever I insert a floppy, an USB > > > > device like a mp3 player, a scanner or a camera. More often > > > > than not I have to edit fstab by hand in order to get > > > > things right again, but the ghost returns after a short > > > > while. > > > > > > > > I guess this is the penalty we have to pay for using an > > > > otherwise fine distro. > > > > > > It's funny how supermount drives some people mad, yet I've > > > never had a problem, with any version of Mdk that I've used. > > > I do admit, though, that I prefer automount for removable > > > devices. > > > > Anne, I envy you. Could you please tell me how ? -- Eventually > > post your fstab ? > > > > On my system it looks like supermount, devfs, autofs, usbfs and > > udev are in a never ending dogfight. Depending on who's the > > top dog at any given moment, my system reacts accordingly. In > > a henhouse at least you know who's in charge... > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > Kaj, I thought that I read somewhere that devfs and udev should > not be running at the same time. One should place devfs=no or off > (something of the sort) if it is showing as one of the services. > Somebody jump in here if you know about this device conflict. You're quite right, Dennis. I'm aware of this, but have tried all thinkable permutations of those : for example having devfs but not udev, or hotplug but not supermount. At the moment I don't even mention devfs in /etc/lilo.conf so I guess it isn't running - at least it doesn't show up in "services". At least I now can win the fight every time I mount something, but it is cumbersome. I'm longing back to the good, old days when mounting was manual. Nice feeling, to be in charge And to quote Tom Brinkman (from a thread about k3b) : "every programmer who allows his application to change important system files should be taken out and shot". - I agree completely. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sorting out fstab
On Thursday 20 January 2005 14:53, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 13:25, Kaj Haulrich wrote:> > > > Anne, I envy you. Could you please tell me how ? > > No - haven't a clue ;-) > > > -- Eventually post > > your fstab ? > > On this box, 10.0 > > /dev/hde12 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > /dev/hde8 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 > none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 > /dev/hde13 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 > none /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/hdg,fs=iso9660,ro,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,c >odepage=850,suid 0 0 > none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount > dev=/dev/hdh,fs=auto,ro,exec,--,rw,umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8 >859-15,codepage=850,suid 0 0 > none /mnt/floppy supermount > dev=/dev/fd0,fs=vfat,--,umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso88 >59-15,suid,sync 0 0 > /dev/hde9 /mnt/home91 ext3 defaults 1 2 > none /mnt/removable supermount > dev=/dev/sda,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,co >depage=850,suid 0 0 > /dev/hde10 /mnt/root91 ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hde1 /mnt/win_c vfat > umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850,exec 0 0 > /dev/hdf6 /mnt/win_c2 vfat > umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0 /dev/hde5 > /mnt/win_d vfat umask=0,user,ro,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 > 0 0 > /dev/hde6 /mnt/win_e vfat > umask=0,user,ro,codepage=850,iocharset=iso8859-15 0 0 > none /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/hde14 /rescue ext3 user 1 2 > /dev/hde7 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hde11 swap swap defaults 0 0 > /dev/hdf5 swap swap defaults 0 0 > > On box2, 10.1 > > /dev/hdb1 / ext3 defaults 1 1 > /dev/hda11 /Data ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hda9 /Public ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hda1 /boot ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hda7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 > none /mnt/cdrom supermount > dev=/dev/hdc,fs=auto,ro,--,umask=0022,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,c >odepage=850,suid,users 0 0 > none /mnt/cdrom2 supermount > dev=/dev/hdd,fs=auto,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepag >e=850,suid,users 0 0 > none /mnt/floppy supermount > dev=/dev/fd0,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,user,codepage=850,iocharset= >iso8859-15,sync 0 0 > /dev/sdd1 /mnt/hd auto > umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sync,kudzu,codepage=850,noauto, >exec,users 0 0 > none /mnt/removable supermount > dev=/dev/sde,fs=ext2:vfat,--,umask=0,user,iocharset=iso8859-15,sy >nc,codepage=850 0 0 > /dev/hda10 /mnt/windows vfat > umask=0,iocharset=iso8859-15,codepage=850 0 0 /dev/hda8 /old_usr > ext3 defaults 1 2 > none /proc proc defaults 0 0 > /dev/hda5 /root_100 ext3 defaults 1 2 > /dev/hda6 swap swap defaults 0 0 > > I do get bitten by the floating device names for removable > devices, though. It never happened under 9.1, and I don't think > it happens under 10.0 (can't remember for certain) but it > certainly does under 10.1. I know it is said to be hot-plug > related, but it doesn't seem to get any better. Could be udev > related? Anyway, that's the only problem I get. The CD-RW and > DVD-RW drives are no problem, it's just the LS120, camera and > card-reader that gets the problem. I mounted the LS120 as > /dev/sde, used it to transfer a file to box1 (no problem) plugged > it back into box2 and it became /dev/sdf > > Anne Thanks, Anne. It seems you have supermount enabled, just like me. So I guess it's another ghost that messes up my fstab at random. Round up the other, usual suspects : devfs, udev, usbfs, hotplug etc...? Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sorting out fstab
On Thursday 20 January 2005 12:07, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 11:01, Kaj Haulrich wrote: > > At least you're not alone. Some time ago there was a thread > > about "the ghost in the machine". It turned out the culprit > > was supermount. This devil have plagued us for years now. In > > 10.1 is worse than ever, if I may have a say. To me it seems > > that this ghost has a will of its own, randomly changing > > /etc/fstab. For example my fstab changes in unpredictable ways > > whenever I insert a floppy, an USB device like a mp3 player, a > > scanner or a camera. More often than not I have to edit fstab > > by hand in order to get things right again, but the ghost > > returns after a short while. > > > > I guess this is the penalty we have to pay for using an > > otherwise fine distro. > > It's funny how supermount drives some people mad, yet I've never > had a problem, with any version of Mdk that I've used. I do > admit, though, that I prefer automount for removable devices. Anne, I envy you. Could you please tell me how ? -- Eventually post your fstab ? On my system it looks like supermount, devfs, autofs, usbfs and udev are in a never ending dogfight. Depending on who's the top dog at any given moment, my system reacts accordingly. In a henhouse at least you know who's in charge... Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Sorting out fstab
On Thursday 20 January 2005 11:43, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: > Anne Wilson napsal(a): > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >On Thursday 20 Jan 2005 06:51, SnapafunFrank wrote: > >>I'm trying to get udev working functionally so am revisiting my > >> previous attempts from scratch to put "my house in order". > >> > >>First port of call is the fstab file and within that I believe > >> I may have some problems. > > > >I've never used vim, so I don't know whether it's highlighting a > > problem or an unrecognised word. I take the simple way of > > dealing with fstab. I use Mandrake Control Center to set up > > every line, and don't mess with it after that. In theory it's > > perfectly easy to hand-edit, but why bother when a space or > > comma misplaced can make it go wrong? I've never had a problem > > with any entry that MCC has set up. > > But sometimes, especially if you boot up various kernels, the > fstab created by MCC behaves strangely. I had to edit it per hand > and then it worked. At least you're not alone. Some time ago there was a thread about "the ghost in the machine". It turned out the culprit was supermount. This devil have plagued us for years now. In 10.1 is worse than ever, if I may have a say. To me it seems that this ghost has a will of its own, randomly changing /etc/fstab. For example my fstab changes in unpredictable ways whenever I insert a floppy, an USB device like a mp3 player, a scanner or a camera. More often than not I have to edit fstab by hand in order to get things right again, but the ghost returns after a short while. I guess this is the penalty we have to pay for using an otherwise fine distro. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] "Start" page of Konqueror??
On Saturday 15 January 2005 21:23, Andy Yankovich wrote: > Also, the Road Runner start page using Windows has better fonts > than when using Konqueror. I am not certain but I think the fonts > in RR start page using Windows is Sans while the font when using > Mandrake KDE is definitely different and much harder for me to > use. Also the contrast is poor. I don't understand why this is > true for Road Runner's home page under KDE - because other sites > I open while using Konqueror are OK. Is there a way to fix this? You can adjust the fonts in Konqueror : Settings --> Configure Konqueror --> Appearence. Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
Re: [newbie] Make kernel background graphic go away...
On Friday 14 January 2005 05:47, Dark Shadows wrote: > I can change the loader picture... > > However, no matter what i can NOT get rid of the back ground > picture behind the kernel on boot...??? > > what is the deal? You could try this . As root, edit your /etc/lilo.conf to vga=792 save the file, run lilo as root. Logout. Reboot. HTH Kaj Haulrich. -- *sent from a 100% Microsoft-free workstation* * http://haulrich.net * *Running Linux (Mandrake 10.1) - kernel 2.6.8* Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Join the Club : http://www.mandrakeclub.com
