CS>Does silver lodge in organs?
Hi all, It has been several years since I posted here. I have a Facebook friend who claims colloidal silver might be bad because it is foreign to the human body, and like mercury can lodge in the brain, silver can lodge in organs when taken internally. Is this true, or are there any studies talking about that or if it is dangerous somehow? -Ken Bagwell Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
Re: CS>aortic sclerosis - OT
That would be an interesting discussion. I think circulatory issues are one the most important health aspects for humans. Anything to help those blood vessels operate properly and unimpeded. -Ken Bagwell Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:44 AM, PT Ferrance wrote: Hi, This list has been pretty quiet lately, perhaps we can get a conversation started. Has anyone treated aortic sclerosis with any degree of success? I remember a discussion quite some time ago about the use of Vit C and lecithin but am wondering about the dosages because I have been using them regularly. Thanks for any input.PT
CStest..again
Let's try this one more time. -Ken Bagwell
CSMike Devour...bromelain
Was wondering if you can elaborate on how much bromelain (brand and GDU) you took per day? Also, did you take it once per day or throughout the day. I am currently taking SIX 500mg capsules (2400 GDU) each day, only in the morning, 1 hour before eating. -Ken Bagwell
CStest
testing I sent a message 2 days ago and it has yet to appear. Is there an issue with the forum software? -Ken Bagwell
CSMike Devour
Was wondering if you can elaborate on how much bromelain (brand and GDU) you took per day? Also, did you take it once per day or throughout the day. I am currently taking SIX 500mg capsules (2400 GDU) each day, only in the morning, 1 hour before eating. -Ken Bagwell
CSSilver vs. biofilms
Been reading a little bit about biofilms lately, and how they might be a big part of the disease and injury puzzle, especially ones like diabetes, arthritis, and atherosclerosis or even just sinus infections. Anyone care to comment about how effective CS is at fighting against a biofilm? I was reading somewhere that CS could breakdown a sinus infection biofilm by just exposing it to CS once a day. -Ken Bagwell
CSyellow CS, also cayenne
Hey guys, I bought some colloidal silver at my local healthfood store, and it is yellow. Is it still useful? I need to use it for some mild bronchitis my wife has, and for me (my lungs tingle a little). The brand is Source Naturals Wellness Colloidal Silver (30ppm). Also, I heard that cayenne pepper helps by breaking up mucous. Any tips on how to administer that or your experience? -Ken
Re: CSyellow CS, also cayenne
Hi Gary, thanks. I should mention that I am using a home nebulizer. -Ken From: Gary Hilt sobertogod1n...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 2:12 PM Subject: Re: CSyellow CS, also cayenne The yellowing could be stronger than 10ppm? If its in lungs get a nebulizer. i have copd and prone to exacerbation but the silver keeps me well. i would nebulize atleast 3.5 ml and breathe 3 times a d untill it clears. i use a mask so i can alternate breaths through nose and mouth. Take slow deep breaths as much as your able. God bless be well On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:01 PM, Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys, I bought some colloidal silver at my local healthfood store, and it is yellow. Is it still useful? I need to use it for some mild bronchitis my wife has, and for me (my lungs tingle a little). The brand is Source Naturals Wellness Colloidal Silver (30ppm). Also, I heard that cayenne pepper helps by breaking up mucous. Any tips on how to administer that or your experience? -Ken -- Eph 1:2 Grace be to you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ. Gary Lennie
Re: CSyellow CS, also cayenne
Thanks, Steve. Also, once I have downed the cayenne combo, how long afterwards should one wait before taking the CS by nebulizer? -Ken From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:45 PM Subject: Re: CSyellow CS, also cayenne As far as cayenne goes. get a glass of warm water, as warm as you can get it, add a tablespoon of honey to it and about 1/4 teaspoon of the cayenne pepper. One can gradually increase the dose of the cayenne pepper until they get to a teaspoon, but start very low and see how much you can get down. This will be an intense experience and the honey makes it much more palatable. As far as a yellow tint to the EIS, it's not unusual. Some of my batches are crystal clear and some batches have a tint. I suspect it has something to do with whether I remember to rinse the jar with distilled water before starting another batch. Still usable and the tint will be more obvious as the ppm goes higher. Steve --- On Fri, 1/11/13, Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com Subject: CSyellow CS, also cayenne To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, January 11, 2013, 4:01 PM Hey guys, I bought some colloidal silver at my local healthfood store, and it is yellow. Is it still useful? I need to use it for some mild bronchitis my wife has, and for me (my lungs tingle a little). The brand is Source Naturals Wellness Colloidal Silver (30ppm). Also, I heard that cayenne pepper helps by breaking up mucous. Any tips on how to administer that or your experience? -Ken
Re: CSmold Was: Macular Degeneration;
http://www.air-zone.com/mold.html A few weeks ago, I read about how to kill mold using an super high output ozone generator. It's a little out of my price range right now, but if someone is serious in need, I suppose you could buy it, use it, and resell it when your're done. Or maybe even rent it out. This company doesn't rent out, unfortunately. -Ken Bagwell From: Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com To: SilverList silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 9:14 AM Subject: Re: CSmold Was: Macular Degeneration; mgperrault mgperra...@aol.com wrote: What odor? cooked onions? smoke? cant get enough oxygen? Dusty wood like smell? Did you find mold? Simoncini indicates baking soda for mold There are some herbs for mold here http://www.sacred-medicine.org/sms_products/sms_mold.php max Thanx max. burning wood odor. terrible headaches. problem has been going on for over a decade. got a bad exposure in a house in Ottawa in 2001. it destroyed my business. mnost of the spores come from the basement. this is new and just started a day orso ago. don't know where it is coming from. very bad. Mike -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities
Is this machine based on stuff regarding the kirlian effect? I heard about this in an old 70's video (out of print) called the Outer Space Connection by Rod Serling. In the program, they actually showed how when a leaf was clipped, the kirlian effect still showed a glowing outline exactly where the newly clipped off part was. Very strange stuff. -Ken Bagwell From: Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com To: SilverList silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 6:50 AM Subject: Re: CSWas: Macular Degeneration; Is: Being Courteous: Open-mindedness to healing modalities Lena, I looked at some of the other machines, but the ABPA A2 appears to be the closest to the SE-5. I trust that you looked at them also, and decided on the ABPA, so I will do the same. I will place an order for one today as soon as I get your reply. Is there anything else I should get with it? I won't need the interface adapter. I will make my own FScan 2 and it will have the correct level to drive the ABPA so I can do the same thing you are doing. The Vortex Cable looks like it is essential for the things I want to do. Fortunately it comes with the unit. Do the pads work? Is there a reason to get them? Here is the url I am looking at. Is it the correct one? http://www.biophotonanalyzer.com/products.htm Thanks, Mike Monett Mike Monett mrmon...@pstca.com wrote: Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote: I no longer use electrodes. I also used electrode pads for a while, but skin envetually got irritated by the adhesives. My hand-holds were gold-plated, I believe. Haven't looked at them in almost 5 years since getting an ABPA A2 to deliver the frx. I chose to be untethered. Makes normal life easier and 24/7 treatment possible, except when unplugged on the road. Then I use the ABPA A2 (battery-driven, then) for balancing only. I plug in the FScan when we get into new campground and then go on my merry way, wherever. Léna Now we are getting somewhere. I used to own two SE-5's which are an extraordinary radionics device. I used to travel around the world on business, and dealing with customer's problems and the fatigue of travel would really sap your energy. I'd call my girlfriend in California and ask her to put me on the machine, and within minutes the pain would drain away and I would start to be rejeuvinated. The ABPA A2 looks like it works on much the same principles, but it lacks a sticky pad for diagnosis: http://www.biophotonanalyzer.com/products.htm However, they do say it has the same range as the SE-5. Not surprising. I found the results equally as powerful in Tokyo or Edinborough, or anywhere else I happened to be. I would be very interested in getting back into this technology. I have a lot more faith in this arrangement than trying to explain the pathogens are killed by direct contact with the electric field as in the Clark/Rife devices. That explanation just doesn't make any sense from an engineering point of view. But I will duplicate the FScan 2 just to get started. For some reason the print on the ABPA A2 manual is too small for me to read. How do you use the ABPA A2 to detect the frequencies that need treating? Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSchelation therapy costs
Does anyone have experience with chelation therapy? How much does it cost? -Ken Bagwell
Re: CSIf You Know Anyone With Cancer...They Need To See This!
Wow, very interesting! -Ken From: Pj Converse convers...@yahoo.ca To: SilverList silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, October 8, 2011 7:15 AM Subject: CSIf You Know Anyone With Cancer...They Need To See This! Hi Folks, Please take a moment to check the link below for a very effective immune restoration therapy which is producing amazing results for cancers of many varieties as well as for a myriad of other conditions from Autism, to CFS, to Lupus, to Lyme disease, to EBV, to HIV/AIDS, and so on... This information came to me from a patient of Dr. Dietrich Klinghardt who suggested that she get on this stuff immediately. After having a chance to look at it myself, I can see why he was so adamant. I'm passing it on to you so the word can be spread to those who may need it. http://www.gcmaf.eu/info/ Blessings, Peter
Re: CSDurbin bill and FDA draft guidance
On January 4, 2011, President Obama signed into law the FDA Food Safety Modernization Act (Public Law 111-353), which required the FDA to publish guidelines to clarify how new ingredients in dietary supplements must be evaluated for safety. The FDA released its draft guidance on July 5, 2011, and the comment period will remain open until October 3, 2011. This is from an email response I received from my congressman. Wow, I did not even know this had happened already. I was under the impression that the comment period was open because the FDA is still mulling everything over. -Ken From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:05 PM Subject: RE: CSDurbin bill and FDA draft guidance I don’t know for sure but it would not surprise me with the push that pharma has been making to take over the supplement industry so they can reap big profits. I have read that some of the biggest supplement companies have been purchased by pharma companies in anticipation of what they hope will come. PT From:Ken Nancy Bagwell [mailto:kenancy2...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 4:27 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDurbin bill and FDA draft guidance Wondering if anyone has any insight as to where this is at, right now. I was on regulations.gov, and saw comments from Bill Sardi and Jarrow (amongst many others). Very good. It sounds like the draft guidance issue has been given additional time to the public (Dec?) to enter comments. Also, does anyone know if there are any pharmaceutical companies that are directly involved in trying to seek these FDA and Durbin moves, through Freedom of Information Act? -Ken No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1809 / Virus Database: 2085/4514 - Release Date: 09/23/11 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1809 / Virus Database: 2085/4514 - Release Date: 09/23/11
CSDurbin bill and FDA draft guidance
Wondering if anyone has any insight as to where this is at, right now. I was on regulations.gov, and saw comments from Bill Sardi and Jarrow (amongst many others). Very good. It sounds like the draft guidance issue has been given additional time to the public (Dec?) to enter comments. Also, does anyone know if there are any pharmaceutical companies that are directly involved in trying to seek these FDA and Durbin moves, through Freedom of Information Act? -Ken
Re: CSAny recipes for a natural sunscreen cream?
Does this really work? -Ken Bagwell From: Saralou slped...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, May 24, 2010 6:25:58 PM Subject: Re: CSAny recipes for a natural sunscreen cream? Extra virgin coconut oil--internally and externally. On 5/24/2010 8:12 PM, Lisa wrote: Hi All, I’m looking to create a natural sunscreen cream for my kids on those days that they’re out in the sun all day. I do know how important it is for them to get some sun in order to keep their Vit D stores up: however, with TBall and beaches etc., I’d like to get them protected with something that’s not full of gunk. Anybody? Thanks in advance… Lisa -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
I wouldn't put too much stock in one article just yet. i'm already a bit suspicious of the claim though. This winter was the first time that me and my family have taken a high dose vitamin D supplement. My wife ALWAYS gets at least one cold per winter, and I usually get one or 2. My two little children also had colds last winter. Well, the only thing we've changed in our supplement routine was adding 5000 IU for us adults, 2000 iu for the older child, and 1000 iu for the baby. guess what...not one cold or flu at all this year. And that's with the H1N1 scare too. We took extra high dose for the first few days too to build up D levels. -Ken Bagwell From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver list silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 3:08:03 PM Subject: CSVitamin D I am 60. I get over 2,000 units vitamin D a day in pill form. I'm in the western part of South Carolina, USA at Latitude: 34.8525. Two years ago, I hadn't heard about vitamin D deficiency, but luckily my doctor made me get the 25-hydroxy vitamin D blood test and a vitamin B-12 test. I was astounded when my vitamin D level was 14. So, the next summer it was 55, then last February it was 46. I'm not taking less than I was last year, but I've not been able to sit in the sun as much, I guess. I'm thinking about calling the doctor's office back and asking the nurse to make sure she read it right. She was stuttering around about the date, then she just said it's normal level. I said I need to know the number, so she came up with 25. I don't know yet how much it cost for the test, but last time I think I paid about $47 for itbut it was discounted because of the Blue Cross/Blue Shield agreement, I'm sure. It's not cheap! I hesitate to take much more vitamin D, preferring to get it through the natural sun when I can. This article turns everything topsy-turvy and I don't know if I should believe it. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080125223302.htm Pat -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVitamin D
With that logic, wouldn't any oil (even from food) go rancid in the body after ingestion? -Ken Bagwell From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:15:54 AM Subject: Re: CSVitamin D I don't take Omega 3 because of the risk of it going rancid in the body after ingestion, if not before. My husband had a couple of ischaemic attacks when given this--on two occasions with gaps in between. I haven't given it to him since and he has been ok (touch wood) dee On 12 Mar 2010, at 17:25, Marshall Dudley wrote: although I found a number of products that combine these two I could not find any references that indicate that Omega 3s improve the absorption of D3 ( or is it the other way around? ). Does anyone have a site that talks about this? Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSQuestion
Donna, those would be really ignorant people. Really ignorant. -Ken Bagwell From: Donna dscroggs44...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 8:20:05 AM Subject: CSQuestion Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you say to people like that? Donna ACS -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSweeteners , where to get XYLITOL
I've tried a few of the alternative natural sweeteners myself. Here's my take. Xylitol is great, but you must take a few weeks to build up your GI tolerance for it. It's not something you can start eating a lot of right away without GI issues possibly cropping up. You start at a few teaspoons per day in something you like to sweeten, and build up from there. Xylitol is probably the best crystalized sugar alternative I've tasted. Better than Stevia and no funny taste like Erythritol. It truly does look and taste like sugar, with a slight coolness to it (it's like it was in the refrigerator). Stevias I've tried are herby. Not like sugar. Agave nectar tastes just like light brown sugar syrup, no funny taste, and totally natural. I would say Agave is the best natural sweetener I've ever tried, although I haven't found a crytalized version (like white sugar) yet. Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, bar none. -Ken Bagwell From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 12:04:21 PM Subject: Re: CSSweeteners , where to get XYLITOL Tel Tofflemire wrote: In Cooking Xylitol is one to one in a recipe that calls for sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar (without the fat left on your bones.) Unfortunately ALL sugar alcohols cause GI adventures in many people. The only exception seems to be erythritol. I can do a little erythritol, but do not tolerate even tiny amounts of any other sugar alcohol. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSyour thoughts re dementia
Hi everyone, My uncle has recently been diagnosed by his doctor as having Frontotemporal Dementia (FTD). As usual, the doctors have no idea why he has it, and have no real therapies or cures for it. The most they can do is try to treat some of the early symptoms. He is only 56. Apparently, this is a rare form of dementia, and is under the umbrella of Alzheimers type diseases (with some differences). One of the main physical symptoms is a shrinking or atrophy of the front temporal lobe of the brain. Manifestations include a level of lethargy, depression, and difficulty with language. Memory, right now, is not so much an issue. Right now, I am making sure that my uncle does indeed have this problem by asking question of the doctors (the tests he had ,etc). I'm also looking into issues that can mimic the disease, although this will be difficult because this disease is rare. Financially speaking, my uncle has always been on the poor side, and his home is an old run down place in them middle of San Francisco's lower downtown. Because of this, I have considered whether it might be possible he has lead poisoning, with the old water piping and car traffic right outside. In addition, his mother recently died, and she too suffered with a more general form of dementia. It makes me wonder if it is something is happening in the house that is affecting their bodies. I want to ask if any of you have dealt with dementia issues in your family and how you dealt with it, or if you have any ideas on what else might be misdiagnosed as dementia. Best regards, -Ken Bagwell
Re: CSyour thoughts re dementia
By the way, I should mention that since this is off topic, perhaps you can just email me directly. I figured the most people would see this email on the regular list, and I always love to hear your thoughts on so many issues. -Ken From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 12:52:32 PM Subject: CSyour thoughts re dementia Hi everyone, My uncle has recently been diagnosed by his doctor as having Frontotemporal Dementia (FTD). As usual, the doctors have no idea why he has it, and have no real therapies or cures for it. The most they can do is try to treat some of the early symptoms. He is only 56. Apparently, this is a rare form of dementia, and is under the umbrella of Alzheimers type diseases (with some differences). One of the main physical symptoms is a shrinking or atrophy of the front temporal lobe of the brain. Manifestations include a level of lethargy, depression, and difficulty with language. Memory, right now, is not so much an issue. Right now, I am making sure that my uncle does indeed have this problem by asking question of the doctors (the tests he had ,etc). I'm also looking into issues that can mimic the disease, although this will be difficult because this disease is rare. Financially speaking, my uncle has always been on the poor side, and his home is an old run down place in them middle of San Francisco's lower downtown. Because of this, I have considered whether it might be possible he has lead poisoning, with the old water piping and car traffic right outside. In addition, his mother recently died, and she too suffered with a more general form of dementia. It makes me wonder if it is something is happening in the house that is affecting their bodies. I want to ask if any of you have dealt with dementia issues in your family and how you dealt with it, or if you have any ideas on what else might be misdiagnosed as dementia. Best regards, -Ken Bagwell
Re: CSVitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies
Thanks for the info. too bad I didn't know about it a year ago. -Ken Bagwell From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net Sent: Fri, October 23, 2009 10:02:30 AM Subject: CSVitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies http://www.healthresearchforum.org.uk Vitamin D3 cuts premature birth risk and protects newborn babies Powerful new evidence about the way that Vitamin D3 can reduce the risk of premature births and boost the health of new-born babies has emerged from an international research conference in Bruges. Delegates were told that mothers who were given ten times the usual dose of vitamin D3 during pregnancy had their risk of premature birth reduced by half and had fewer small babies. .. Over the two and a half years of the study thousands of tests were made and monitored by an external safety committee. Not a single test showed any adverse effect of the large dose of vitamin D3. The average level of vitamin D in the women's blood increased by about 50 per cent. ... In addition, the normally recommended level of sun exposure does not produce enough vitamin D3, according to a separate study reported at the Bruges meeting. Sunlight is the major source of vitamin D3 and so advice on sun exposure is crucial for health. Food cannot supply more than 10% of what is needed. .. Previous studies have already shown that infants born to vitamin D deficient mothers may be at greater risk of low birth weight, lower respiratory tract infections, asthma, and weak bones. . However, of particular interest is that this study considered levels less than 20ng/ml to indicate insufficiency. Vitamin D experts agree that levels less that 50ng/ml should be considered insufficient. Had the study analyzed the results using levels of less than 50ng/ml as the definition of insufficiency the results would have been much worse. Holmes VA et al. British Journal of Nutrition 2009 Sept; 102(6): 876-81 Institute of Medicine -- -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSApples Fight Breast Cancer
Well, it is true that Americans loves to eat apples. It's probably the most popular fruit in America. Unfortunately, it's not helping cancer so much. We have very high cancer rates here. Most people don't eat 3 or 6 apples a day. and apples are always on the list of most pesticide-ridden fruits. One can always buy organic, but most of the population haven't gotten into that yet. It's also not mentioned if the peel was part of the extract. A lot of people like apples without the peel, but I think that is where significant benefits come from (flavanoids, etc). -Ken Bagwell From: Garnet gar...@grandecom.net Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:35:30 AM Subject: CSApples Fight Breast Cancer from /Bottom Line's Daily Health News/ *Apples Fight Breast Cancer* An apple a day may not only keep the doctor away -- new research shows that it may specifically be helpful in protecting against breast cancer. At Cornell University's department of food science and Institute for Comparative and Environmental Toxicology, researchers randomly divided rats treated with a known mammary carcinogen into different groups, feeding them either low, middle or high doses of Red Delicious apple extracts (the equivalent of one, three and six apples a day in humans, respectively) or a control extract. Rats fed the strongest apple extract experienced the lowest cancer rate (40% developed cancer)... followed by the group fed middle-strength extract (43%)... and the lowest strength extract (59%). In comparison, 71% of those fed the apple-free control extract developed mammary cancer over the 24-week study period. The study appeared in the December 10, 2008, online edition of /Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry/. WHAT'S THE SECRET? According to researcher Rui Hai Liu, MD, PhD, associate professor of food science at Cornell University, the study demonstrated not only that apple extracts effectively inhibited the growth of mammary tumors in the rats but that the more administered, the greater the anticancer effect. Not only did animals treated with apple extract have fewer tumors overall, the tumors were smaller, less likely to be malignant and grew more slowly when compared with tumors in the untreated animals, he said. Why are apples so powerful against breast cancer, I wondered? Dr. Liu explained to me that apples are one of the best sources of phenolics and flavonoids, which are phytochemicals (bioactive compounds) that have powerful antioxidant and anti-proliferative (antigrowth) effects in the body. In two previous studies, Dr. Liu and his colleagues discovered that phytochemicals from apples effectively inhibited the growth of human breast cancer cells. In another study, Dr. Liu found that phytochemicals from apple peels inhibited an important inflammation pathway, NFkB, in human breast cancer cells, thereby reducing the proliferation of the cancer. Dr. Liu told me that although other fruits and vegetables also contain phenolics and flavonoids, apples are one of the best dietary sources of fruit phenolics. In fact, of the top 25 fruits consumed in the US, apples provide 33% of the phenolics that Americans consume annually. Americans love to eat apples, so it makes sense to encourage them as part of a balanced diet for optimal health, he said, adding that this doesn't mean anyone should forsake other fruits and vegetables. It's clear that regular consumption of fruits, vegetables and whole grains can help to prevent chronic diseases, such as heart disease and cancer, Dr. Liu said. Source(s): Rui Hai Liu, MD, PhD, is an associate professor in the department of food science at Cornell University in Ithaca, New York. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDMSO and GABA
Hi Steve, I received this response from another group I Googled GABA +molecular weight and if this is correct it is 103, which is well under the 1000 Dalton limit of DMSO. So yes it should be able tocarry it in and pass the BBB. What do you think? I don't know much about Dalton limits and molecular weights. -Ken Bagwell From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, September 4, 2009 5:00:16 PM Subject: Re: CSDMSO and GABA The molecular weight of GABA is 16500 and DMSO is able to carry mplecules of up to a molecular weight of 1. So it may not be effective with GABA. - Steve N From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Fri Sep 04 07:00:06 2009 Subject: CSDMSO and GABA I'm sorry to ask another non-CS related question. But so many of you are informed about a variety of health topics and substances. It might help if I ask to just email me directly, if you wish to respond, so as to keep non-CS related posts to a minimum. My question is about using DMSO to get pure GABA powder into the bloodstream and past the blood-brain barrier. As I understand it, DMSO can pass the blood-brain barrier and take other sustances along with it. Because GABA is speculated to have difficulty in permeating this barrier, would using DMSO help? Topically or orally is my main question? -Ken Bagwell
CSDMSO and GABA
I'm sorry to ask another non-CS related question. But so many of you are informed about a variety of health topics and substances. It might help if I ask to just email me directly, if you wish to respond, so as to keep non-CS related posts to a minimum. My question is about using DMSO to get pure GABA powder into the bloodstream and past the blood-brain barrier. As I understand it, DMSO can pass the blood-brain barrier and take other sustances along with it. Because GABA is speculated to have difficulty in permeating this barrier, would using DMSO help? Topically or orally is my main question? -Ken Bagwell
Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning
Hahaaa, that happened to me once. BUTthe lady used dishwashing soap on me for using some bad words. That's not soap, though. That's detergent. It was clear green liquid. Ugg. -Ken Bagwell From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, August 28, 2009 1:08:24 AM Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning I was thinking of the taste i.e in the old days, they used to wash out kids mouths with soap as a punishment for telling lies! dee On 28 Aug 2009, at 05:26, Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: Haha! Well, you clean just about everything else with it! Cats, dogs, cars, dishes, body, carpets... -Ken Bagwell
CSsource for DMSO
Hi all, I'd like to try Brooks' method of combining DMSO and peroxide to whiten teeth. However, I'm totally unfamiliar with DMSO. Looking online, DMSO.com has 99% pure stuff for sale. Is there any reason in the world I should not buy it from them? -Ken Bagwell
CSsoap for teeth cleaning
Hi all, A few questions: Does anyone have any experience using soap for brushing teeth? Also, what type of soap is used? Can it be made at home? I just read some info from a guy named Gerard F. Judd. Not sure what to make of it all at this time. -Ken Bagwell
Re: CSsource for DMSO
Thank you, Tel. I'll check my area to see if there are any tack stores nearby. I know there is one in Clayton, CA nearby where I live, but that is about a 40 minute drive through busy areas. Otherwise, I guess I'll just order some online. -Ken Bagwell From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:57:39 AM Subject: Re: CSsource for DMSO Hey Ken Nancy, A tack store has this brand on hand for a couple bucks cheaper no shipping charge. A tack store is a place that sells horse feed, saddles, grooming stuff,etc. But DMSO is all GOOD if made in the USA. Tel Tofflemire Dewey, AZ. --- On Thu, 8/27/09, Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com Subject: CSsource for DMSO To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 3:41 AM Hi all, I'd like to try Brooks' method of combining DMSO and peroxide to whiten teeth. However, I'm totally unfamiliar with DMSO. Looking online, DMSO.com has 99% pure stuff for sale. Is there any reason in the world I should not buy it from them? -Ken Bagwell start: -00-00 end: -00-00
Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning
Haha! Well, you clean just about everything else with it! Cats, dogs, cars, dishes, body, carpets... -Ken Bagwell From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:17:39 AM Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning Just seems strange to me to clean teeth with soap! dee On 27 Aug 2009, at 16:29, Bob Banever wrote: Ivory soap should work just fine. Dr. Judd used it as well. - Original Message - From: mborg...@att.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: CSsoap for teeth cleaning I
Re: CS(LL) ?? Anything to use with CS/EIS during Chemo treatments
I have read that Oleander capsules from South Africa are very powerful immune stimulants, and read a few months back that some people would use this during chemo treatments and made the chemo very bearable and more successful. Look it up. I think there was some good info about it on CancerTutor.com -Ken Bagwell From: zzekel...@aol.com zzekel...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 3:51:02 PM Subject: CS(LL) ?? Anything to use with CS/EIS during Chemo treatments A nice waitress, at a favorite restaurant, has a friend that has had part of his stomach removed due to cancer. She was in on a conversation at our table on CS / EIS. He starts chemotherapy next week wondered if there was anything that could help him in anyway. I thought the CS / EIS would stop possible infection . any other ideas would be much appreciated. It is sad medical Marijuana is not legal here in the States as I know that is very useful for those having chemo Thanks Lois.
Re: CSTesting Effectivity of CS in the Labratory
Does this imply that CS is not good for hard surface sterilization? Sorry, I'm just coming in on the conversation. -Ken Bagwell From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:43:51 AM Subject: Re: CSTesting Effectivity of CS in the Labratory If you have dire rear, the contents of the intestine are no longer a semi solid. Ode At 06:28 PM 7/27/2009 +0100, you wrote: what is broths please? and if CS doesn't kill anything in the intestines, how come it helps with dogs with sickness and diarrhoea (and people)? dee On 27 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Marshall Dudley wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: t Those tests were run by me back in 1999, and reported to this list 10 years ago. The tests are correct, CS will not kill anything on agar plates. This is a known fact, and is how we realized WHY CS has little or no effect on bacteria in the intestines. We ran tests on broths, and agar plates. There was 100% kills on the broths and 0% kill on the agar. The reason is simple, colloidal silver has to be mobile to find and kill pathogens, on the agar plates it becomes fixed and immobile, and thus is unable to contact or kill anything. This is not new news, but simply confirmation of what we already know. Marshall -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS GABA source
Yeah sol, maybe you could ask him. what form does he take , too, a powder capsule? -Ken From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 8:25:23 PM Subject: Re: CS GABA source Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: I took 6 grams of GABA for a few days. The Source Naturals version. I was disappointed. It actually did NOTHING for me at all. Well, I did get a little bit of tingles after taking it, kind of like a mild niacin flush, but otherwise, I do not believe that GABA, as a powdered supplement works. My understanding is that GABA, as a supplement, does not get past the blood/brain barrier. Maybe someone else has another experience or explanation? My son just recently told me he is taking it sublingually, just before a training run. He is finding it really stretches his energy while running and he doesn't get tired so soon. He runs marathons and does very long bike races too. He thinks it absorbs better sublingually. I forget how much he told me he was taking but I can ask if you want. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS GABA source
I took 6 grams of GABA for a few days. The Source Naturals version. I was disappointed. It actually did NOTHING for me at all. Well, I did get a little bit of tingles after taking it, kind of like a mild niacin flush, but otherwise, I do not believe that GABA, as a powdered supplement works. My understanding is that GABA, as a supplement, does not get past the blood/brain barrier. Maybe someone else has another experience or explanation? -Ken Bagwell From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:08:54 AM Subject: Re: CS GABA source I took 6 grams of GABA for a few days. The Source Naturals version. I was disappointed. It actually did NOTHING for me at all. Well, I did get a little bit of tingles after taking it, kind of like a mild niacin flush, but otherwise, I do not believe that GABA, as a powdered supplement works. My understanding is that GABA, as a supplement, does not get past the blood/brain barrier. Maybe someone else has another experience or explanation? -Ken Bagwell From: Harold MacDonald har...@telus.net To: Silver Post silver-list@eskimo.com; A. Reid Harvey reidhar...@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 10:10:03 AM Subject: CS GABA source http://betterlife.com/prod_home_page.asp?prod_id=27651 Other benefits of GABA Snipped; The Lipoic Acid, vitamin E treatment significantly increased the level of glutathione, GABA and serotonin levels in the whole brain as well as in the regions of the olfactory lobe, cerebrum, hippocampus-hypothalamus, cerebellum and pons-medulla. This is quite a demonstration of the actions of these compounds in protecting the brain from environmental toxic assault. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSclear blisters on the finger
I have this problem. It is Herpes Whitlow. For me, every 6 monthsor so, I get a breakout on one or two fingers, same ones, same spot every time. They hurt a little, but itch more than anything else. Not too big of a deal but it is annoying. I've never bothered to treat it really. Be careful to not infect anyone else with them. -Ken From: Wayne Fugitt cwa...@netdoor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:43:38 AM Subject: CSclear blisters on the finger Does anyone know what causes the clear blisters on the fingers ? I think I had some of these about 45 years ago and do not remember doing any specific thing to help them. Has anyone had any experience with them or a suggestions as to what will eliminate the clear blisters ? CS, MMS, Both, or just cut the fingers off. Thanks for any suggestions. Wayne === -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSperiodontal (gum) disease
Anyone have experience reversing gum disease using CS in some way, or anything else? I just called a local dentist who uses one of the latest laser techniques to eliminate the problem (as opposed to surgery), but it costs $5000. -Ken Bagwell
CSinexpensive CS machines
Hey all, Been a long time since I've visited the list, but I'm glad you are all still here and chatting. I've always wanted to get a real CS machine (had a SOTA unit years ago but gave it to a friend), and now may be as good a time as any. I believe CS is a good anti-viral, right? (Never actually looked up exactly what organisms it kills, although I heard it was over 600) I know there is Silver Puppy and SilverGen, I think. Any one recommend some units that are around $100-125 or so? Time to get the family drinking some everyday and spraying the eyes and nostrils. -Ken Bagwell
Re: CSFw: BUCHANAN TO OBAMA
Mike, I wanted to thank you again for keeping watch over the silver list. I don't visit it that much now, but from time to time I lurk. Even, there are times when I know I will need to ask a uestion or want to discuss something, and I'm glad to know you are there keeping this in decent order. Thank you, Mike, and God bless, -Ken Bagwell, CA - Original Message From: M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 3:00:16 AM Subject: Re: CSFw: BUCHANAN TO OBAMA Gerrie writes: I am sorry. I was sending it to my address book and I guess I accidentally clicked on to the CS address and did not notice. Please excuse. Yes, indeed! Please be careful of that in future, Gerrie. Only politics directly related to colloidal silver or important alternative health developments is permitted, and only in the form of bried heads-up notices, with discussion to be taken to the Off Topic list. Also, I remind everyone that responding to such a posting *ON THE LIST* only multiplies the negative impact of the initial offense or error. I ask you all to not play list cop but rather to let me know in private e-mail if there's something going on I need to deal with. The first thing I will see when I check my e-mail is your private messages. Now, let's not respond any more to this thread, and let's also ignore any further responses to this thread from people whose fingers convulse and hit send before they see this message from me. wink Thanks, everyone. Be well! Mike D. BUCHANAN TO OBAMA [gratefully... snipped!!] [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSWHY THE CHEMO?
What could be the theory behind that idea? Cancer cells really aren't bacteria or virii. Why would CS work for that? -Ken Bagwell - Original Message From: Trem t...@silvergen.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 9:04:04 AM Subject: Re: CSWHY THE CHEMO? Hi Sol, Me too. We have some amazing anecdotal stories of people drinking 1-2 liters daily and having the tumors disappear in as little time as a week to six weeks. Doesn't seem to work with blood borne cancer but seems to work with soft tissue tumors. Trem Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 6:55 AM Subject: Re: CSWHY THE CHEMO? If I ever am diagnosed with any kind of cancer the very first thing I would do is start drinking 2 liters of my EIS per day, and keep it up for many months. That said, radiation can be targeted much more narrowly these days. I'd bet the radiation your dad had killed off his thyroid, too. On another list, I read that for routine dental x-rays they should put a barrier across the throat, just like they do the rest of your body. I am no longer going to allow these x-rays to be done unless I have a problem in a tooth, and unless they put a barrier across my throat. Dentist is going to be po'd no doubt, but my thyroid already has been exposed to enough. sol Dianne France wrote: My dad developed lung cancer when he was 61. They found the cancer on a routine x-ray pre-op for prostrate surgery. They said it was the size of a dime. They did the prostrate surgery and he waited two months to do the lung surgery and the cancer had grown to the size of a quarter and they removed 1/2 of his right lung and some lymph nodes of which two had cancer cells in them. He did not have chemo but they did radiation. With the radiation they burned his throat muscles and also part of his heart. He developed health issues from the radiation but he lived another 23 years. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
CSLED stuff
Hi all, A year ago or so, I asked if anyone knew where I could buy or get info about LED devices. I think there was a guy called V on this list that made and sold such devices. Can someone tell me his email or website, or point me to a site that deals with such devices? Thank you, and Merry Christmas, -Ken Bagwell Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: CSMoving Lymph Naturally
I'd like a copy, Sasha! Thank you! -Ken Bagwell s...@emotap.com s...@emotap.com wrote: Hope this isn't too late. The other day, the list had a few posts related to moving lymph. I have a 2-page document that details a simple protocol that explains how to do self-lymph massage. You can do it in a few minutes, and it doesn't cost a thing. I have done it many times with excellent results. Thought I would pass it along. So let me know if you would like a copy of it. E-mail me privately. No charge of course. Okay? Sasha -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Ahhh...imagining that irresistible new car smell? Check outnew cars at Yahoo! Autos.
Re: CSFluoride
I feel kinda bad for dentists in a way. They are locked in a program where, unless they decide to shun their peers and their educators, must believe that fuoride actually does what the ADA and peers say it does. Think about this: I have, for years, taken for granted that milk is the best source for calcium, and a good source of protein. I've seen all the commercials and heard about calcium supplements and the like. I've grown up in a home where plain old grocery store milk was a staple. And even when that was told to me to be bad, I could buy the organic, cleaner ones But when I do research on the detractors, I think they may have very valid points that should make me reconsider if milk in any form is worth ingesting, even though I love the stuff. It wouldn't that painful for me to give up milk if I had to, or thought it might help improve my health. I actually can take the time out of a day and read more about milk anbd decide if I want to continue drinking it. But imagine a dentist whose whole education, training, and all his peers are similarly told and practice that fluoride is the big deal. What is his motivation to listen to any of his patients? He is the professional with all the training. He goes every few years to update his education, but only by the same types of people who taught him in the first place. Unless he is actually taking an assertive interest in reading about those who are against fluoride, and is willing to give it a fresh look, he will never understand someone like you who says I use natural fluroide-free toothpastes. He may be the professional, but they are your teeth. You don't know if he serously and deeply looks into the anti-fluoride camp's protests. He should. But you really don't know if he does. And let's assume he did. And let's assume that he started to think that fluoride was not all it's cracked up to be. What would he have to do, what would he have to change, in order to keep practicing like he is now? Would he make the same money? Would some of his patients leave because they too have been snookered into thinking that fluoride is all that? Would his accreditors be asking him serious questions or making veiled threats to his licensing? The truth is, you cannot put too much trust in any professional. You have to educate yourself these days, and you have to be your own advocate. If one of them tries to tell you that such and such is good, and you are pretty sure it isn't, or are suspicious, you just have to tell them how you feel about it. If they can't deal with your opinion or the facts you present, you just have to move along. -Ken Bagwell Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: Carlos said, By the way, has anyone noticed that dental caries problems have not gotten any better since the beginning of the fluor craze, Last week the dentist asked what kind of toothpaste I'd been using because I have a sore place on the upper gum that has been there for 3 months. I told him various natural ones with no fluoride. He about went wild, asking where I read that fluoride is not good for teeth. He said things are put out there on the internet for many reasons and gave me a big lecture. He and the hygienist said that teeth won't re-mineralize without fluoride and that if I hoped to keep mine for the rest of my life, that I needed fluoride toothpaste. He did agree that there might be too much ingested from the water in some places. He said that years ago most people my age (late 50's) didn't have their teeth anymore. He said some might accuse dentists of using the fluoride treatments as a money making scheme, but that can't be true since it cuts down on the fillings necessary. This dentist is a smart man in his 50's who has dedicated his life to keeping his patient's teeth in good condition. How could he be totally wrong? Is he wrong? Pat Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: CSHeating milk
I looked it up the other night. Regular pasteurization is just under 200 degrees, and ultra pasteurization is about under 300. At 500 degrees, I'm sure the stuff would just burn up. I have only looked at the notmilk.com site so far. There is some good info there, although they are a bit extreme perhaps, inferring that milks causes almost every malady known. I will keep looking up info. -Ken Bagwell sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: http://www.foodsci.uoguelph.ca/dairyedu/pasteurization.html#htst I don't see any mention of 500 degrees F. Have you got a reference for your statement? sol Terry Chamberlin wrote: Pasteurization is not simply heating milk, it is heating milk to a very high temperature (500 degrees) under pressure (to keep it from boiling or curdling). This unnaturally high temperature rearranges the milk constituents into something not good for our bodies. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started.
Re: CSMilk (and CS)
Hi Terry, Thanks for your balanced view on this. Maybe, after all these years, I should do some more research on this again. Regarding raw milk, I wouldn't mind taking it, but do you think adding a few drops of CS would reduce the possibility of harmful germs (since there's no pasteurization)? -Ken Bagwell Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Ken said, Where did you read this? I drink lots of milk and I love it. If you research the topic of the toxicity of commercial milk, you should be prepared for what you will find. The philosophies of those who disapprove of milk will extend from those who believe humans shouldnt drink milk after infancy (and only human milk at that) to those who are only concerned with milk coming from unhealthy cows. My own children have been raised on fresh, unpasteurized milk from healthy, unmedicated goats. Yet I acknowledge the fact that humans have enjoyed and benefited from fresh cows milk for many, many centuries of human history. My alarm over milk centers on the fact that, if a cow is highly medicated, unhealthy and unhappy, its milk cannot be good. I have never heard that the calcium is almost impossible to digest. To the contrary, I remember reading studies in the past about calcium sources where people increased their bone density by drinking milk (but mainly it was usually focused on other things like calcium supplements or drugs) The homogenization process alters the fabric of milk and decreases its digestibility. The compression of the milk fat into tiny globules introduces something into the body that it is unfamiliar with and not designed to metabolize. People with very good digestion will have better success with it than those who dont. Over the long haul, it will cost the body more than it will benefit it. The milk industry has many studies to support their agenda. The pharmaceutical industry does the same about their drugs. You must decide whom you will trust. For myself, I tend to assume that food and medicine was better before man improved on them, that nature offered us what we needed, that what occurs naturally and spontaneously on our planet is what our bodies need. I greatly mistrust the products that come from a laboratory or from human engineering and coercion. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
Re: CSVarious topics
Terry, Where did you read this? I drinks lots of milk and I love it. but I have never heard that the calcium is almost impossible to digest. To the contrary, I remember reading studies in the past about calcium sources where people increased their bone density by drinking milk (but mainly it was usually focused on other things like calcium supplements or drugs) Thisfinished milk-like product is not only very difficult to digest, there is strong evidence that these plastic-like milk balls accumulate in various locations in our bodies. The calcium that is locked inside of these milk-balls is almost entirely indigestible. -Ken Bagwell Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Barbara said, Terry, what happened in the early 1900s that it had such profound and disastrous influence on the health of the citizens? I know that milk pasteurization started at that time. Could that be a reason? I am oversimplifying it, but what happened in the early 1900s was commercial farming techniques (put only 3 minerals back in the soil after harvest), plus the increasing use of chemical fertilizers and insecticides. Add to that the wholesale stampede to a high-grain diet (and processed grains at that), plus the increasing replacement of actual food with processed, chemicalized, synthetic food products and you have a recipe for the demise of public health. I could list other important factors fast food, vaccinations, flouride, etc., but you get the idea. Smitty said, I have read that pasteurized milk is BAD for a person's body. Maybe Terry can expound on this. First you take milk from an unhealthy cow that is made to stand in a tiny enclosure her whole life and eat a diet that the cow is not designed to eat. She is not allowed to ever see the sun or get any exercise, and everything she eats or drinks is full of chemicals that are designed to increase her milk production at any cost to her health. (Plus antibiotics to try to keep her from getting sick in this very unhealthy environment.) Then you take this unhealthy milk-like substance and you put it in a pressure cooker (to keep the milk from boiling or curdling) and heat it up to 500 degrees. This is called pasteurization. I can only guess what ultra-pasteurization is. Then you force the milk through a sieve with very tiny holes in it, so tiny that only high pressure can get the milk to go through. This compresses the milk fat and the milk protein together into tiny little balls of compressed milk. The milk fat no longer rises to the top of the container. This is called homogenization. This finished milk-like product is not only very difficult to digest, there is strong evidence that these plastic-like milk balls accumulate in various locations in our bodies. The calcium that is locked inside of these milk-balls is almost entirely indigestible. Jodi W Menard wrote: I don't think you can overdose on iron by eating alot of spinach, for example, because the iron you are getting in that way is in ionic form. Spinach is quite high in oxalic acid. Depending on how imbalanced your bio-chemistry is and what kind of imbalance, oxalic acid can greatly contribute to gall and kidney stones. Iron is one of the minerals our bodies use that can be ingested in unhealthy levels, ionic or not. Nowadays, increasing numbers of people are struggling with levels of iron that are too high. The doctors only know to bleed you to try to lower your iron level (rather than seek to bring about a balanced bio-chemistry). I will admit that it is not a simple process. Terry Chamberlin __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
Re: CSrestless leg syndrome - blank mssg?
Looks like a blank message. -Ken Bagwell ekowal...@aol.com wrote:AOL EmailIn my opinion, the potassium,magnesium and calcium suggestions are the best ideas but B vitamins mighthelp too. I'd suggest the magnesium and calcium capsule inchelated form for optimal absorption. For potassium it might be better tolook to the diet than at supplements. Avocados and potatoes aregreat for that and higher in potassium than bananas I think. Plus,even though bananas are nutritious in many ways, some of us put the poundson when eating them everyday. I think it was on this list that somebodywrote in and said they tend to LOSE weight eating a lot of bananas. So,maybe it's not a concern for you. JD/Lance - AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at AOL.com. - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
CSrestless leg syndrome
Hi all, I might have restless leg syndrome (or at least that appears to be my kind of symptom). Does anyone have any insight or help regarding this? My symptoms are not real bad right now, but it is keeping me up about 1 or 2 hours later every night. Not painful, but very irritating. I'm not sure why I suddenly have this (past couple weeks). -Ken Bagwell - 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.
CSmagnets
Can someone supply some good links for information on magnet therapy applied to a bed mattress? I'd like my wife to be able to get some kind of benefit while she's sleeping. -Ken Bagwell - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
Re: CSmagnets
Hi Cinder, I looked up that site. It looks great and the product looks great, but to be honest, it's a little out of my price range. $400-1500 for a pad. Are there any magnet alternatives out there that are effective and inexpensive? Homemade is ok, too. -Ken Bagwell Cinder Ella mcomfy...@yahoo.ca wrote: I've tested different magnetic products and you have to be careful not to get a bleed through of the opposite pole due to magnets not being placed close enough to each other. I found an awesome source at www.4optimallife.com The lady lives in London Ontario and cured her father of prostate cancer with the mattress pad and no surgery. She's a retired nurse. Doris Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote: Can someone supply some good links for information on magnet therapy applied to a bed mattress? I'd like my wife to be able to get some kind of benefit while she's sleeping. -Ken Bagwell - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends. - Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers. - Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit.
CSH2O2 in a nebulizer
Anyone know of a safe dosage to use 3% peroxide on a nebulizer? Can I use it straight, or should I add distilled water to dilute it more? -Ken Bagwell __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
CSLED therapy
Can anyone recommend an inexpensive LED pain reducing unit that works well? Actually, I wouldn't mind a site that maybe has plans on how to build one yourself, too. Thanks, Ken Bagwell - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.
Re: CSMorgellons. Has anybody heard of it.Will CS help ?
Ummm...how did this man come to this conclusion? Are there pictures? Or better yet, video or lab tests to back up what he is saying? He says this parasite moves. Well he must have video taped this. -Ken ccdirectt ccdire...@yahoo.com wrote: This is pretty long.They talk about Morgellons comming from cotton source. http://www.chemtrailcentral.com/forum/thread7527.html __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CSGrow a hambuger overnight
Gros! -Ken Bagwell Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: http://www.impactlab.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=8732 Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: CSGSE
Paul, Where did you read about that? -Ken Bagwell Paul Fisher pauljfis...@cox.net wrote: It is not true, in fact GSE disenfects the Liver and is the number 1 choice for getting rid of Hepatitis. Paul - Original Message - From:zeb caffe To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 11:03 PM Subject: CSGSE I dont know if this is true but I have heard that GSE can behard on the liver. This could account for the break out or allergic reaction. - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-newYahoo! Mail Beta. - Sneak preview the all-new Yahoo.com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.
Re: CSBob Berger has passed away
Take care, Bob. I didn't know you, but I hope you are ok, now. -Ken Bagwell Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: Folks: I just received this from Bob Berger's email address: Dear Friends, Bob Berger passed away on June 21, 2006 in the home. He had suffered from congestive heart failure for some time. I know you all share my sorrow and had a deep regard for Bob and his work. I won't be keeping this email address. Thank you for your communications with Bob. They were a big part of his life. Audrey Berger __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less.
Re: CSGSE
Well, if you have any good evidence of that, let us know. In any case,, for my wife, it only happened at very large single dose. -Ken Bagwell zeb caffe jamaki...@yahoo.com wrote: I dont know if this is true but I have heard that GSE can be hard on the liver. This could account for the break out or allergic reaction. - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta. - Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus theres much more to come.
RE: CS Alert on GSE
I would question this website's info. I did personal research on this about 3
years ago, but unfortunately, I did not keep notes. My conclusion is that the
research on these 6 samples mentioned on your site was not entirely accurate.
but admittedly, I can't remember much behind it, now.
-Ken Bagwell
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Jim
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Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com wrote:
I agree with Paul. My wife has cured bronchitis twice with this same
product. Tried colloidal silver for it, and it could not cure her bronchitis,
even with the gatorade added.
However, I was able to fit about 35 drops of GSE per capsule. I recommended
this to a person once for sinus issues and she had a bad allergic reaction, so
I suggest trying out a couple of small sample doses first to make sure you dont
have any allergic reaction to GSE. My wife also broke out in bad hives when
she had 3 pills at once instead of spread throughout the day, and I had to give
her benadryl to calm the hives down. If you have no allergies though, it does
indeed seem to be a powerful antifungal agent.
-Ken Bagwell
claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote:
Paul wrote:
Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in
the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg
empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with
each meal.
You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal.
Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules
as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice?
Claire
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Re: CSRe: Paul mold/fungus GSE
I agree with Paul. My wife has cured bronchitis twice with this same product. Tried colloidal silver for it, and it could not cure her bronchitis, even with the gatorade added. However, I was able to fit about 35 drops of GSE per capsule. I recommended this to a person once for sinus issues and she had a bad allergic reaction, so I suggest trying out a couple of small sample doses first to make sure you dont have any allergic reaction to GSE. My wife also broke out in bad hives when she had 3 pills at once instead of spread throughout the day, and I had to give her benadryl to calm the hives down. If you have no allergies though, it does indeed seem to be a powerful antifungal agent. -Ken Bagwell claire shaw cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: Paul wrote: Nothing works better than Grapefruit Seed Extract for mold and yeast in the body. Buy the liquid from the health food store along with some 500 mg empty capsules. Fill the capsules up with 15 to 20 drops each. Take 2 with each meal. You will be amazed at how fast your lungs will respond and heal. Paul, thanks for the info. Is it more effective to take the GSE in capsules as opposed to drinking it mixed with CS /or juice? Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Groups gets better. Check out the new email design. Plus theres much more to come.
RE: CSMicrowaved water science fair project.
Hi Marshall, That's very interesting! Thanks! But why only two little plants? -Ken Bagwell reglee reg...@tpg.com.au wrote: that is clever.!! Thank u roger. -Original Message- From: Roger Barker [mailto:rbar...@orcon.net.nz] Sent: Wednesday, 12 April 2006 7:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMicrowaved water science fair project. I've been waiting for this. Thanks Marshall. Cheers, Roger On 11/04/2006, at 5:00 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: OK, I FINALLY got the images for my granddaugher's science fair project posted. To refresh everyone's memory, she boiled filtered water and microwaved filtered water and over a 5 day period watered the plants. The ones watered with the microwaved water were virtually dead after 9 days, the ones with non-microwaved water were thriving.. http://www.execonn.com/sf/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice.
Re: CSMicrowaved water science fair project.
Also, science is spelled wrong in the first sentence. ;) -Ken Bagwell Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: OK, I FINALLY got the images for my granddaugher's science fair project posted. To refresh everyone's memory, she boiled filtered water and microwaved filtered water and over a 5 day period watered the plants. The ones watered with the microwaved water were virtually dead after 9 days, the ones with non-microwaved water were thriving.. http://www.execonn.com/sf/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
RE: CSCS, xylitol and mold - Daddybob's experiment
You think that's cool, try rinsing your mouth with 3% for 15 minutes twice and see what you get. I got a notable improvement that same night. -Ken Bagwell ransley rans...@atmc.net wrote: Rowena- I tried H2O2 in nasal spray mixtures and got nosebleeds for my trouble, so I gave that up. I just checked on both bottles, 9 days old, nothing in either. Now I'm going to leave them open and see what happens. I'll tell what I have learned recently though- I started using H2O2 for my toothbrushing protocol and got whiter teeth for my trouble. DB -Original Message- From: Rowena [mailto:new...@aapt.net.au] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 3:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS, xylitol and mold - Daddybob's experiment Daddybob, I also wondered about the effect of H202 in your experiment? R Previous Q: Might you also try an experiment with additional things in the xylitol mix like salt, DMSO, MSM to see if that makes a difference? - -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates.
Re: CSNebulizing with EIS and pine--
This is not pine oil or scent, but have you looked into Mucomyst? It is N.A.C. (N-Acetyl Cysteine) in liquid form you can nebulize. It is supposed to be VERY good for lungs. -Ken Bagwell panamp...@aol.com wrote:AOL EmailHaving advanced Emphysema I am constantly trying different protocols,except for the various machines(expensive) I see advertised on the net. I nebulize with EIS daily coupled with MSM. I was wondering if anyone with COPD ever tried any form of pine oil or extract? Its strange, but for the last several years I have not seen any pine aerosols that used to be in abundance in groceries and drug stores--so what happened? Even at Christmas---nothing! Please shed some lightif someone knows! Pete - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CS5 year old child bad chesty cough..help
N.A.C. (N-Acetyl-Cystein), in a nebulized form, can be obtained with or without a doctor's prescription. Use with a good quality nebulizer. If you don'thave access to a nebulizer, you can also try the oral form, by reducing dosage by perhaps 1/4 for a 5 year old (perhaps 100mg or so, most capsules contain 500 or 600mg each by default). NAC is known to be extremely helpful to the lungs. I forget the exact mechanism, but I believe it was thought to break up mucous. In any case, it supposedly works very well, asthmatics used to use it until the brochodialotors came around and they figured that asthma was basically brocho-contriction, rather than mucous build-up. Also, give her extra high dose of vitamin C (perhaps 1 or 2 grams twice a day), selenium (perhaps 50 micrograms once a day, as selenomethionine or monomethionine, NOT selenite version), and vitamin E (perhaps 50-100 IU of natural E, as d-alpha tocopherol, NOT dl-alpha, once a day). I'm mentioning these particular vitamins, because of this... http://www.asthmaworld.org/SeGluPer.htm If that wasn;t enough, high doses of GSE (grapefruit seed extract, NOT grape seed) has helped my wife about 3 times over bronchitis that followed colds in about 3 days. She had to take about 2-3 capsules (they held about 37 drops each) of liquid a day to do it. For a child, I suspect 20 might be an equivalent. You could divide that up into 2 doses a day, at 10 drops, by just mixing it with a glass of orange juice. I would suggest trying only 1 of these 3 ideas at a time. If the child were older, I might be more bold. -Ken Bagwell debbie cozens debbiecoz...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi , i do hope that someone can give me some good advice...my daughter age 5 has got a very bad chesty cough..so chesty that she wants to get sick everytime she coughs...i give her 5ml of cs in the morning and at lunch time..not as night as i read the insomnia post on taking cs at night...what else can i do for herany other natural remedies that any of you know of? shes drinking honey and lemon in warm water...i just dont want to take her to the doc but i think its getting worse,,.. HELP Debbie Debbie Cozens http://stores.ebay.co.uk/S-h-i-r-e-s-t-o-r-m Equine products at affordable prices - Win a BlackBerry device from O2 with Yahoo!. Enter now. - Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments.
Re: CSToothpaste
Be careful, though. About half of their toothpaste products are not fluoride free, and all still contain sodium laurel sulphate, I believe. I like Weleda brand very much, myself. No fluoride or sodium laurel sulphate. I actually have made my own mouthwash using 1 part vodka, 4 parts hydrogen peroxide, several teaspoons xylitol (to taste), and half a bottle of mint or peppermint flavoring. Mix the flavoring with the alcohol first, then add the peroxide and xylitol Taste great, totally free of unreadable chemical garbage, and I don't see why anyone could not use it as a toothpaste, too. -Ken Bagwell marmar...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/1/06 11:07:15 PM Central Standard Time, billa...@verizon.net writes: I found one at Wal Mart named Tom's of Maine that does not have any fluoride. Thank you for sharing that Bill -- I've been wondering if one couldn't purchase a good toothpaste rather than using salt, baking powder, H202, etc. MA - Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CSToothpaste
This one has alcohol in it, but it is not alcohol based. It is h202 based. The alcohol does kills germs and helps disperse the peppermint oil and give a tang to the mouthwash. h202 by itself tastes terrible, and pure alcohol is way too harsh. Xylitol has proven anticavity benefits and tastes great. CS as mouthwash is fine, but a little boring to me. -Ken Bagwell sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Heck I just use my CS as mouthwash, sometimes with a little H202 added. Alcohol based mouthwashes are thought to cause tissue damage? Long time since I read that somewhere. sol I like Weleda brand very much, myself. No fluoride or sodium laurel sulphate. I actually have made my own mouthwash using 1 part vodka, 4 parts hydrogen peroxide, several teaspoons xylitol (to taste), and half a bottle of mint or peppermint flavoring. Mix the flavoring with the alcohol first, then add the peroxide and xylitol Taste great, totally free of unreadable chemical garbage, and I don't see why anyone could not use it as a toothpaste, too. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CSUnresponsive sickness
Terry, is it possible that your sickness was due to something that is not organic (that is, killable)? -Ken Bagwell V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Well I have run into that situation also in the past. and there are times where your body just does a house cleaning and it feels like you are sick but you are not so none of the things that normally kill pathogens wont work becaues there are no pathogens. your body is just cleaning out toxins and it feels the same way as when you are sick because the process is the same. All you can do is assist it in the cleanout and stick it out. You might try things like enemas and drinking lots of ozonated water, and also bounce on a mini tarmpoline to get the lymph system moving faster to remove the toxins. thats my opinion on the situation anyway. V Terry Chamberlin wrote: Well, here is a posting I never thought I�d write. Recently, my 14-year old daughter started getting sick. She had a cough and sore throat. I kept her home from school and plied her with Colloidal Silver all day, confident that she would be fine shortly. She kept saying, �Gosh, Dad, I hope I don�t give this to you.� I confidently said, �Huh! With all the CS I drink every day? Forget it!� I drink about a quart per day of CS, 16 oz at the very least. My daughter kept getting sicker and sicker, missing more and more school. I put her on a nebulizer, and she spent hours inhaling CS with H2O2 added. No improvement, just got worse. About the fifth day of her sickness, I started to get sick. I really guzzled the CS and used the nebulizer. Got sicker. In two days, my voice was gone, my throat hurt, had a fever, clogged sinuses, lungs full of phlegm, weak as a kitten. I got out my 6-volt battery, hooked it to two �� x 6� long TENS unit electrodes that have a sticky surface. I stuck them to the front and back of my throat, ran them all morning, then attached them to front and back of my abdomen, ran them all afternoon. Switched to my Beck Blood Purifier, ran that on my throat all day. Used my Beck Magnetic Pulser (which has always worked wonderfully in the past). No improvement. None of this had any affect that I could see, except that I just got worse and worse. Friday night went to bed early and slept for 14 hours. Was a bit better the next day. This has shaken my confidence. Yes, I believe that CS is very beneficial for everyone not allergic to silver. Yes, I believe it is safe, and no, I don�t believe anyone can get argyria from crystal clear CS, no matter how much they drink. But the question still remains: Why did I get sick? Why did the CS not protect me? Why did my sickness keep getting worse despite the copious quantities I drank? Why didn�t the bioelectrical devices give any benefit? People have asked me, Won�t your body become dependent and unable to protect itself in a normal way if it is accustomed to CS doing it? I have always responded, �No, not any more than if I take Vit C or A or any other nutrient that is known to help the body fight infection.� But I haven�t used CS like I do Vit C or A. I take Vit C and A on a nearly daily basis, but I don�t take megadoses of them, and I don�t always take them everyday (though I have no problem with that idea). I�ve found several doctors who believe that silver is an essential nutrient that our bodies NEED, like iron or selenium. But the amount of silver needed by our bodies is probably similar to the amount needed of various trace minerals � a little bit, but not a lot. This has caused me to look closer at how much I take. Actually, now I am afraid to cut back on my CS too quickly, lest I get sick again. But I am going to gradually decrease my dose until I reach 2 � 3 oz/day. Terry Chamberlin __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Do you Yahoo!? With a free 1 GB, there's more in store with Yahoo! Mail.
Re: CSCS for sinusitis and bronchitis
Ed, I'm a complete dope and have made CS using less sophiticated machines that are widely mentioned on this list like the silver puppy or the silvergen. Just get a unit and basically follow the directions. If worse comes to worse, you can always ask someone experienced to make some for you and pay them for it until you feel more confident to make your own. But really, CS making is a no brainer, thanks to people like those on this list. -Ken Bagwell Burgh Bear1965 burghbear1...@gmail.com wrote: I have reading this list for a few months and have been putting off getting a generator for some time, mostly because it seems so confusing. I just got hit with sinusitis again and know that bronchitis is probably not far behind and I would like to know if anyone has had any success treating either of this conditions with home-brewed CS? Thanks Ed - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
Re: CSParasite Cleanse
You should watch the big bugs scene in the latest King Kong movie, then. You would probably have a heart attack on the spot. LOL! -Ken Bagwell Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com wrote: To me, nothing is grosser than the thought of having parasites! A roundworm 1/2 out of my puppy sent me to the couch standing and screaming while my husband took care of it. I did manage to pick up a squirming tapeworm segment my puppy left on the dining room floor, and took her to the vet for a worming the next day. Sooo, I'm thinking of trying a parasite cleanse I saw online. http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm Does that work? Am I right in thinking that colloidal silver will kill parasite eggs but not adults? How much would I have to take to do that? If I see nasty creatures that came out of me, I'll be writing from the mental institution next time! Pat - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSGet rid of Aluminum
What's even more funny (it's almost funny), is that Hulda Clark said not long ago, that even glass was not safe, because she recently measured that there was cesium, or thulium (or something like) that leaching from glass stuff. So she recommended to go back to Stainless Steel. Very confusing and disturbing. At least, if avoiding such things is very important to you. -Ken Bagwell Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: But is there any REALLY safe alternative? Stainless Steel contains chromium and nickel. Nickel is toxic, and can actually eat holes in your stomach, and chromium can be in two forms. The trivalent and hexavalent. Apparently according to the movie Erin Brockovich ( http://www.mindfully.org/Water/Chromium-4800-Systems-Test.htm ) trivalent is not too bad but the hexavalent form is horribly toxic to animals and humans. Marshall Faith Saint Francis wrote: In answer to the thread (Sol, Jim Holmes): Our rule of thumb at home is: Get Rid Of ALUMINUM. We changed (at a high investment) for stainless steel. See the point is (and correct me if I'm wrong) that aluminum accumulates in the system, and is hard to get it out again. The better the quality of your pottery, the less accumulation, but particles DO get there! The problems begin when you exceed certain limits of toleration, often AFTER YEARS AND YEARS of aluminum use. Then, it is very hard to pin point aluminum as the evil-doer. Just be careful, and maybe better follow the (not our) advice: Get Rid Of ALUMINUM. Faith _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
RE: CSdebunkers, etc...
Jim, the best thing would be to ignore this guy. He is a total dope when it comes to issues on CS. All that's going to happen is he is going to get riled up and start some s%^t. Best to leave him be. -Ken Bagwell Jim Holmes ami...@starband.net wrote: Here is what has transpired off-list. I made it abundantly clear that there was no censorship or manipulation of information here. Jim wrote: Opinions may be published. False statements are defamation; in writing it is libel. Speech is called slander. If I had called you a rude person is that actionable? How about if I said, This fellow is behaving like an Asshole? Or, as you pulled your punch in your insult to me, if I said, Don't be an Asshole. Your behavior was that of a rude and arrogant person. Is anus better? . Regarding Hepatitis and CS. I had a severe case of Hepatitis in my 30s. Since that time, my liver was always tender and hard and ached. About 10 years ago, I began taking a small amount of electro colloidal silver daily. My liver stopped hurting in about 3 months. My lifelong tinea pedis went away. I do not get colds or flu. I spray it on small burns and cuts, and they heal very quickly, with minimal scarring. I have researched medical databases for about 10 years, looking for evidence of toxicity. The head of the Life Sciences department of Johns Hopkins University says that the toxic dose of pure Ag is about 1 bathtub full of 10 mg/L silver; about 30 gallons, per day. I have seen several severe respiratory infections, bacterial, viral, and fungal respectively cured in a couple of days with CS nebulized in O2. You must be thinking of your own policies when you suggest that the owner of the Silver List will forbid information that does not agree with his beliefs, of that does not further his personal agenda. No one there---and that includes many medical professionals---would tolerate that. What he does not accept is threats from some self-ordained expert who is offended by colorful language and has a business agenda to defend. If you have data demonstrating Ag toxicity, please present it...or not as you choose. Selecting obscure and possibly dated sources and selectively quoting from them does not meet my criteria for evidence. If you have the data, why are you withholding it and telling me to go to the library? In my opinion, you are either a shill for the Pharmacrooks, or a woefully ignorant person who is making money from those even more ignorant than yourself. Post a study---with enough information for the methodology to be examined---that demonstrates toxicity from unadulterated CS and I will post it to the Silver List. Otherwise, do not bother to respond. Jim Holmes -Original Message- From: Jonathan Campbell [mailto:w...@cqs.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:00 PM To: Jim Holmes Subject: Re: Silver Testimonials I only objected to your publishing your opinion of me publicly, which is slander. You can call me whatever you want privately. That is the nature of our society, not just email. If you want my frank opinion about people who promote products like colloidal silver that put peoples' lives at risk, when there are perfectly fine nutritional remedies available that work and cannot cause harm, the word is DESPICABLE. Jonathan - Original Message - From: Jim Holmes To: 'Jonathan Campbell' Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:12 PM Subject: RE: Silver Testimonials I will respond to you if you will agree to honor my right to fully express my opinions of you, and your opinions, and to use whatever colorful language that I choose, without resorting to threats in retaliation for trivial insults, provided I do not publish anything that is not factually true. Otherwise, go away. Jim Holmes -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:00 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSdebunkers, etc... Jim wrote: It is all gone away. Mike thinks that further discussion is not good for the list, and I agree, so rather than try to rebunk this debunker, I will focus my attention elsewhere. Just to be clear, I don't mind if anybody wants to post information of the kind this fellow provides. We're not here to hide our heads in the sand or to defend CS (or whatever we choose to call it) at all costs. One of the pre-requisites of participation in the list, however, is that you're interested in the subject and assume going in that our silver preparations are worth studying. I'm here to profide a reasonably safe environment for people to explore the topic of CS (and other things) without having to constantly fend off attacks by people who have already concluded that it is not of any value. I think, more than anything else, Jim and Mr. Campbell have demonstrated how ridiculous communications on the internet
Re: CSfibromyalgia
Bill, I heard on another site that Guifanesin (the expectorant drug they put in cough and cold syrups) is supposed to be really helpful with Fibro, although I have not checked it out myself yet, but I had never heard of that treatment before. -Ken Bagwell Bill Amos billa...@verizon.net wrote: Hello: In August, my daughter lost the use of her left hand, wrist and arm and 2 weeks later she lost the use of both legs. She slowly got the use of her legs back by the end of September and in the past few weeks she has started getting the feeling and movement back in her left arm. She has had a total body mri with contrast, eeg, emg, ct scans and a spinal tap. The neurologist says it all stems from fibromyalgia, which she has suffered with for quite a few years. He was her second opinion neurologist. She takes colloidal silver and for the pain she includes colloidal gold. She was taking colloidal platinum for energy but says her body can't keep up with the effects she gets from the colloidal platinum. Today her family doctor told her she thinks it's more than the fibro. Has anyone had any similar experiances and if so any successful releif ? Bill - Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping
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Re: CSQuestion for Ole Boob
Ole Boob, huh? -Ken Bagwell M. G. Devour mdev...@eskimo.com wrote: Okay now I am totally cornfusedare you saying we are NOT to wipe off the black stuff that accumilates on the silver rod during making of cs? Thanks in advance...debbie Dear Debbie, I'm sure either technique will work. Rinsing while they're wet should get any loose fluffy stuff off... but you'd have to rinse them in distilled water to avoid contamination. All I ever do is wipe them down with a paper napkin. Kleenex (facial tissue) leaves a LOT of lint that always seems to contaminate the next batch. Paper towel seems like overkill and wasteful. Napkins, however, seem just robust enough and don't leave any lint. The positive electrode does not need to be rubbed so hard it ends up shiny, if all you're doing is wiping it down with a napkin. The dark color is microscopic surface roughness that actually helps speed production later. However, as long as you don't contaminate things, any of these methods will be okay. It's not really critical. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! Personals Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet. Lot's of someone's, actually. Yahoo! Personals
Re: CSNanosilver
Doing so might lead more people to this site. Maybe? -Ken Bagwell Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: We have been aware of the difficulties with differentiating between silver particles that fit the scientific definition of colloidal, which are too large to pass through the cell walls, and silver particles that are small enough to do so. We have been using the word ionic to refer to these smaller particles, even though the scientifically accepted and used definition of ionic simply means the particle has a positive or negative charge, and doesn't actually refer to the particle size. Why don't we use the word nanosilver, as used by a growing number of scientists. We say EIS (Electrically Isolated Silver) to refer to our whole method of suspending silver in pure water without the addition of other substances, but this term doesn't distinguish between large and small particle size. See: http://www.physorg.com/printnews.php?newsid=7264 http://www.jnanobiotechnology.com/content/3/1/6 In this work, we demonstrate that silver nanoparticles undergo a size-dependent interaction with HIV-1, with nanoparticles exclusively in the range of 110 nm attached to the virus. www.cesil.com/leaderforchemist/articoli/inglese/7demlinging/7demlinging.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: CSvaccines and dental implants
I asked the same question about what's being used in place of Thimerosal a month or two ago, but no one answered. But then, this is the CS list, after all, not the vaccine list. I just wonder if something just as bad has replaced it. -Ken Bagwell Betsy Coffey latimergi...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks for the web site sam. someone posted earlier that they saw a sign about thermisol in vaccines and was wondering if they had stopped using it. From what I understand, it is not used anymore in infant vaccines but they still use it in hep vaccines and flue shots. Doesn anyone confirm this? I wonder what they use as a substitute for mercury in infant vaccines? Will they ever tell us? Also, for anyone considering dental implants. I have one thing to say. I would think twice before considering this. I wish that I had never had it done. I ended up having them out due to infections which I have never quite recovered from. __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: CSCS for varicose veins
If I remember, all they basically said was apply some CS a few times a day everyday for a few weeks, and it might help. I've been looking into serrapeptase, though (an enzyme), and that looks like it might be more effective for this purpose, although not free like CS. A regimen of 6 grams vitamin C and 6 grams lysine is also supposed to be very good at reducing arterial plaque, which may also help varicose veins. I found out this idea from a website under Dr. Rath. -Ken --- genes...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Dear list members: A message went through the list recently about CS for varicose veins; unfortunately I can't find it. Does anyone have any experience with this? I would love to know the protocol. Thank you for your many suggestions and support. Blessings to all, Carlene -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSCS for varicose veins
Thanks for the mention of proline. I'll have to look at it again. -Ken Bagwell Acmeair res00...@gte.net wrote: Ken Nancy Bagwell wrote: If I remember, all they basically said was apply some CS a few times a day everyday for a few weeks, and it might help. I've been looking into serrapeptase, though (an enzyme), and that looks like it might be more effective for this purpose, although not free like CS. A regimen of 6 grams vitamin C and 6 grams lysine is also supposed to be very good at reducing arterial plaque, which may also help varicose veins. I found out this idea from a website under Dr. Rath. -Ken Heart Plus: Supports Health Cholesterol Levels Too! Linus Pauling, two-time Nobel laureate and Ph.D., had a few words when it came to cholesterol and heart disease. As you may remember from Mike Ciells paper * One Pharmacists View of Coronary Heart Disease, * Mike compares Paulings Unified Theory with the cholesterol-fixated Lipid Theory. Pauling, in conjunction with Dr. Matthias Rath, suggested that plaque (sticky cholesterol) does not form randomly in the bloodstream. Pauling and Rath proposed that nutritional deficiency was the cause for stress, tears and cracks in human blood vessels and this deficiency makes way for plaque to come to the rescue. Pauling and Rath identified three deficient nutrients: vitamin C, L-lysine, and L-proline. They found that these critical nutrients could actually heal blood vessels, improve blood flow, and reduce cholesterol plaques (blockages). Not a small feat for a relatively cheap combo of these totally awesome nutrients! And, our *Heart Plus * provides /all three/ of these important nutrients in one handy formula. No wonder Heart Plus is consistently in our * Top Ten list *. and read mike ciell's paper. good info,,, jim -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: CS bromelain connie
2 grams a day is great, but bromelain is kind of expensive at 2 grams a day. Then, what if there are other supplements you would want to take in addition to bromelain? Costs gets up there. -Ken Bagwell --- siriu...@aol.com wrote: Not stupid! Use it as you would aspirin for pain and swelling. You can take it internally and crush it and apply it topically like for toothaches and oral surgery. breast cancer surgery or arthritis pain. It works very much aspirin but does not inhibit prostaglandin production. Every woman should take bromelaine to protect against breast cancer. I take 2 grams a day. One warning I forgot to add about swelling -swelling is dangerous if it is uncontrolled and extreme. It can cut off blood supplies to the affected area. Everything within reason. Harper In a message dated 11/14/2005 11:45:21 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, craehow...@juno.com writes: QUESTION: Is the bromelaine being digested or applied locally? Probably a stupid question but better to ask then assume the answer. connie __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list and CS
I looked up the silver Canadian Maple Leaf, and it is indeed . (99.99%) pure silver. Sounds like an easy access to very good silver. I never would have thought of it! -Ken Bagwell --- Kelburn Koontz kelbur...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: CSNew to list and CS
1. Buy a 6 volt DC transformer for about 5 clams. Better yet, pick up one at a flea market for .50. The current doesn't matter as this method uses less than one ma. http://preventionforever.com/silver.htm My only question about this method is that I thought in order to make CS, you needed at least 27v or more? Is that not so? -Ken Bagwell --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Kelburn, I got my silver here its . pure alos and comes in wire form so its easier to use. http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/superfines.html#four Take care, V Hi, I am new to the concept of CS, and wish to try it out. I want to make my own generator, I don't have the $200 to buy one and I like DIY projects better anyway. I read a couple of sites that say one needs pure silver, they mentioned a canadian maple leaf dollar. Is this accurate? Are there other sources for silver? How can one be sure the source is pure? I think I can handle the electrolysis and distilled water aspect of the generator, I just need to find some good silver. Thanks, Kel -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpig fat in soap Kosher soap
the parasites in pig can NOT be removed - even with high heat. Well, of course they cannot be removed by heat, but you meant killed. However, how do you know this? Where did you hear it? -Ken Bagwell --- Hurd's Cornstoves restq...@verizon.net wrote: Thank YOU me for answering my question about Ivory soap! I will save the kashrut.com link, too. I'm a Christian who decided long ago to avoid pig products; and I REALLY strived to avoid a religious controversy here. We are not to touch the carcass. Those are the instructions I follow. Period. When my husband had a heart attack last year, the dr. said no pork - so we have a valid excuse for our pig-loving (sarcastic) friends. I prefer to stay away from pig - realizing it is in fertilizers, gelatin, glycerin, marshmallows, vitamin capsules and many other products. I've collected a huge file on the subject and believe the parasites in pig can NOT be removed - even with high heat. To each their own. It was an interesting exchange of opinions. Respectfully, Mary just so you know Ivory soap is on the OK list for soaps used at Passover so it could not have fat in it. If you have any questions on cosmetics as to what has pork fat in check on line for products at K A S H R U T . C O M.. There is even a number to call if the product you are checking is not listed. __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNew to list and CS
I thought the same thing. Probably just hammer it really good, since I have no idea how else I might roll it out. -Ken Bagwell --- 4optimallife 4optimall...@rogers.com wrote: From: Ken Nancy Bagwell I looked up the silver Canadian Maple Leaf, and it is indeed . (99.99%) pure silver. I used the Canadian Maple leaf in my old CS maker. Duncan Crow and someone else suggested that I have them rolled out to give a larger surface. I never have. Kallie Miller www.4optimallife.com; Safe magnetic sleep pads, antioxidant, alkalizing water filters, zappers and rebounders -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSCanadian Maple Leaf Silver
How come you can't pound it while it's hot? -Ken Bagwell P.S. Thanks for the idea. --- Robert Berger bober...@swbell.net wrote: If you heat the coin red ot and drop in water then you can pound out thinnner. BUT it will work harden as you go so you may need to heat it several times to get a thinner wider sheet. Ole Bob __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSEIS, was Re: CSTooth Soap
Katheleee, If you just type in colloidal silver, ionic silver, silver maker or things like that into any search engine, you should come up with any number of designs to make your own fow under 30 dollars. There are also some inexpensive premade types like Silver Puppy, SOTA instruments, etc. I don't have links, but I'm sure someone else has many. But just do a search. -Ken Bagwell --- Kathelee kathe...@verizon.net wrote: thanks ..where can i find instructions to make it please - Original Message - From: Ken Nancy Bagwell kenancy2...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:01 PM Subject: Re: CSEIS, was Re: CSTooth Soap A silver products with that high of a ppm is certain a mild silver protein product. This is the weakest of the silver types. They have to make the ppm really high in order to do anything. You might try ionic silver instead. You can make it yourself very cheaply and easily. -Ken Bagwell --- Kathelee kathe...@verizon.net wrote: thanks I have been taking cs 500 ppm, a few drops a day a few years... Do you know if i can change to a lesser amount and if so would i have to take more of it to equal the dosage i take now...I've been taking it for sinus infections. I think if i took a lesser amount now it wouldn't have any effect? appreciate any feedback, kathe...@verizon.net - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2005 8:59 PM Subject: CSEIS, was Re: CSTooth Soap www.silvermedicine.org Plus this list very list you are posting to. EIS is basically what most of us here make that is commonly called colloidal silver or CS for short. It is just that some of us would prefer a more definitive and descriptive term that does not include various other things such as mild silver protein, silver compounds, etc. Man, do I miss the archives, if they were still available you could read a lot about the topic of what to call our homemade silver water that would be both descriptive and accurate. CS is just too broad a term. sol Kathelee wrote: is there a website i can read please to learn more about what it is used for ? - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com EIS is Elecrically isolated silver. No silver compounds, no mild silver protein, just silver ions and particles in pure distilled water, produced with my Silvergen or Silverpuppy. No added anything. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005 __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/162 - Release Date: 11/5/2005 __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSilver Nanoparticles Kill HIV Virus, study shows.
Was there any discussion on how these nanoparticles were produced? I suppose it's not something the average person could make? -Ken Bagwell --- Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Ode Coyote wrote: Scientists studied the absorption spectra of the different preparations to pinpoint their shapes. Spherical nanoparticles absorbed in the blue region of the spectrum, for example, Yacaman said. ## So, color isn't 'entirely' about size, but is something much more complex especially when shapes of impure crystals can vary in a fractal pattern according to the nucleating particle center that the crystal grows upon. Yes, this is known, and covered in some of the references I have posted in the past. Basically a silver particle is like a small antenna, and will have a resonant frequency. Light at the resonant frequency will be absorbed, and as the particle increases in size, then the resonant frequency decreases (resonant frequency will be 4 times the length of time it takes for electricity to travel from one margin of the crystal to another, just like with a 1/4 wavelength antenna), moving the absorption band from uv, to violet, blue, green, yellow, orange, red, and infrared as the crystal grows larger. The apparent color is of course the complement of the absorbed color. Now if you make an antenna in the shape of a snowflake, you will have a myriad of resonances, some low frequency across the whole flake, but others within the center, arms and areas at the end of the arms, each having their own resonances, and these will all be much higher resonances than the one across the whole thing. Exactly the same thing happens with silver crystals, except the frequencies are not in the radio range, but the light ranges. The physics is actually quite well understood, although computing all the resonances for an irregular shape becomes difficult if not impossible. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSbrushing with ivory soap
I wish Ivory would have stated what type of animal fats the soap contains. The thought of washing with pig isn't appealing. Brushing teeth with pig is out of the question. Yeah. Just think if you actually ATE some pig (pork)! LOL! -Ken Bagwell --- Hurd's Cornstoves restq...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks for the Ivory Soap link - I wish Ivory would have stated what type of animal fats the soap contains. The thought of washing with pig isn't appealing. Brushing teeth with pig is out of the question. I add a Miracle II soap drop+ to Vademecum (non-fluouride) and also floss and daily rub my teeth with a soft cloth. Brushing doesn't always get the teeth really clean. Don't forget to clean or replace tooth brushes regularly. Aloha, Mary __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSbrushing with ivory soap
See? It's ok to brush your teeth with pig. -Ken Bagwell --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Yeah pigs are too big to fit on the end of your tooth brush. pigs are nice animals. way smarter than dogs and only dirty when you keep them in a pig pen. their meat is closest of any animal to human. Take care, V I wish Ivory would have stated what type of animal fats the soap contains. The thought of washing with pig isn't appealing. Brushing teeth with pig is out of the question. Yeah. Just think if you actually ATE some pig (pork)! LOL! -Ken Bagwell --- Hurd's Cornstoves restq...@verizon.net wrote: Thanks for the Ivory Soap link - I wish Ivory would have stated what type of animal fats the soap contains. The thought of washing with pig isn't appealing. Brushing teeth with pig is out of the question. I add a Miracle II soap drop+ to Vademecum (non-fluouride) and also floss and daily rub my teeth with a soft cloth. Brushing doesn't always get the teeth really clean. Don't forget to clean or replace tooth brushes regularly. Aloha, Mary __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSTooth Soap
sol, I also use the Weleda toothpaste, I like the minty one, though. Excellent product, and oddly, I also have no tartar for several years since I stayed away from toothpaste. I wonder if there is something in toothpaste that might contribute to tartar in some people. -Ken Bagwell --- sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: There is glycerin in ALL soaps according to what folks say who make soap. Some soaps have added glycerin besides the normal glycerin produced when soap is made. I did the Judd soap brushing for almost a year with no beneficial results. However, I could not drink the sodium ascorbate, as it made me nauseous, maybe if I could have followed the whole thing there would have been results. But for me I have gone back to Weleda Calendula toothpaste and rinsing with diluted H202 and EIS. I actually have less tartar now than when I was brushing with soap. However for cleaning my TMJ dental splint, brushing it with soap is the best thing I've found to keep it clean and odor-free. sol ch...@comcast.net wrote: I'm a little confused. According to Dr. Judd, use ANY soap to brush teeth because there is glycerin in toothpaste. Well, there's glycerin in most soaps. Why didn't he just say any glycerin-free soap? Is there something I'm missing? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: CSEIS, was Re: CSTooth Soap
Are the archives going to come back at anytime or has it completely died? -Ken Bagwell --- sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: www.silvermedicine.org Plus this list very list you are posting to. EIS is basically what most of us here make that is commonly called colloidal silver or CS for short. It is just that some of us would prefer a more definitive and descriptive term that does not include various other things such as mild silver protein, silver compounds, etc. Man, do I miss the archives, if they were still available you could read a lot about the topic of what to call our homemade silver water that would be both descriptive and accurate. CS is just too broad a term. sol Kathelee wrote: is there a website i can read please to learn more about what it is used for ? - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com EIS is Elecrically isolated silver. No silver compounds, no mild silver protein, just silver ions and particles in pure distilled water, produced with my Silvergen or Silverpuppy. No added anything. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: CSanyone know how to make a negative ion air purifier?
I saw places selling salt lamps online that generate negative ions for less than $50. They don't generate any ozone, either. My jury is still out on the chronic ozone generation stuff, so I thought salt lamps might be an alternative, since the negative ions are all I wanted in the first place. -Ken Bagwell --- siriu...@aol.com wrote: they are outrageously expensive and fragile and I dislike the dealer I bought the last outrageously expensive flair unit from. I understand the directions are as easy as making a CS generator and it can be made for under $50 but I lost the bookmark to the instructions. Anyone know anything about how to make one? Harper __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSlemons and cancer
**shivers** Yuk...raw meat. :) -Ken Bagwell --- V vzo...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Cindy, The reason they are mostly helathy is because they ate much of their stuff raw. when you eat meat raw and or dairy raw it is not acidic to the body. I eat stuff like that myself, lotsa fat and cream and butter and meat. I cook the meat unless I can find good organic grass fed meat , then i eat it raw too. Not always easy to find. they do have raw organic dairy here in Calif. The cream can esaily be addicting when its raw, it tastes so good. http://www.paleodiet.com/ http://www.angelfire.com/ny2/bass/aajonus.html http://wholehealth.homestead.com/raw.html Take care, V I've recently taken a Traditional Diet Seminar sponsored by the Weston A. Price Foundation. The primitive people Dr. Price visited ate lots of animal fats, which would be highly acidic, how come they were healthy? One group only ate fish and cream. Cindy Citrious fruit while it is acid is NOT acidic after it inters the body. Go to www.thewolfeclinic.com/acidalkfoods.html and print out the list of acid and alkaline foods. It will amaze you as to what is acidic to the body. Ole Bob -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: CSmicrowave dangers
Why hasn't anyone else done work like Han Hertel? This study is many years old, now. No one else on earth has done a study on whether microwave ovens affect food quality? -Ken Bagwell --- Wayne Fugitt cwfug...@earthlink.net wrote: Hans Hertel+microwave Maybe you will find his study. That is the study I posted the link to on my website. It is formatted in Word. Wayne -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: CSmicrowave dangers
Terry, I received this email yesterday. What do you think? - Sorry, but as far as I can tell it is 'study', singular, and it was apparently not peer reviewed. If there were corroborating studies then wouldn't you think they would be linked at mercola.com? Because they aren't linked, I think I am safe in declaring that there are no supporting studies. This whole silliness came from one man, Tom Valentine. He is widely known as a flake and totally unreliable source of all sorts of unprovable claims. As a matter of fact he has now been forced on his website to admit that there are no clinical studies that support this single Swiss 'study'. The internet is a large place these days, doesn't it strike you as strange that when you google for the subject you only come up with this one 'study'? Also, now that international communication is the norm these 'microwave ovens are dangerous' folks no longer push the lie that the Soviet Union outlawed microwave ovens because of the health risks. My question to you is why are you ready to believe and actively promote something like this with absolutely no evidence but what amounts to one man's opinion? -- -Ken Bagwell --- Terry Chamberlin tcj...@yahoo.ca wrote: On the microwave oven topic, some have said this, some have said that, but it seemed to me that we should look at any legitimate research, rather than conjecture. One short-term study found significant and disturbing changes in the blood of individuals consuming microwaved milk and vegetables. Eight volunteers ate various combinations of the same foods cooked different ways. All foods that were processed through the microwave ovens caused changes in the blood of the volunteers. Hemoglobin levels decreased and over-all white cell levels and cholesterol levels increased. Lymphocytes decreased. See: www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm Also: www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards2.htm Someone said: Take a look at this thread www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3142 and check out the website the original poster is criticizing: www.relfe.com/microwave.html She *might* have made some important points but because of her illogical statement at the beginning, many readers stopped listening to her. The *illogical* statement being referred to was presumably the reference to a woman who died after being given blood heated in a microwave. On the second website, this claim was criticised with the statement, The incident did happen, but a jury found that Norma Levitt was killed by a blood clot, not by blood heated in a microwave. Im confused. How did they suppose this blood clot was formed? Could it be that microwaving the blood created a blood clot? I do not find that hard to believe. Dr. Mercola (above sites) seems to accept the idea of microwaves being unhealthy. The information in the articles on his website seem to make a very strong scientific case. I would be very interested in the outcome of an experiment using microwaved water with plants. __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSMicrowaves - opposite viewpoint
--- George Martin in...@dragonbyte.net wrote: From the following website: http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW/microwave_ovens.htmlhttp://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW/microwave_ovens.html *Don't microwaves change the molecular structure and composition of food, by ejecting some electrons from atoms and forming cancer-causing free radicals? If I should stand away from a microwave to avoid possible leakage, why would I eat microwaved food? * If you build a solar cooker using a large lens to focus the sunlight onto the beaker of water you want to boil, does the molecular structure change? The only difference is the frequency of the 'radiation'. Current thinking expresses all electromagnetic radiation as streams of photons (energy packets) traveling along their merry way at the speed of light in a wave pattern and all at a certain energy level. The only difference between radio, visible light and gamma 'rays' is the energy level of the photons. Lower energy (radio) photons exhibit a wave-like property while high energy (light) behave more like particles. Does cooking food in the common toaster oven type device cause a molecular change? The heating element you see when you look through the door glass is emitting photons in the near infrared range. That is the red glow you see. These photons are the same as from a microwave only at a HIGHER energy level. Is it not logical to think they would have a greater molecular impact than the relatively lower energy microwaves? Why then isn't anyone yelling from the rooftops to stop cooking your food in *all* electrical appliances? As to shipboard radars affecting the ocean water...come on! The average power of these radars doesn't even compare to the amount of sun(light) energy falling on a couple square meters of ocean. Along the equator the average amount of energy is in the neighborhood of 300 watts per square meter. A radar I've worked on that is typical of navigation radars generated a 1500 watt 'signal'. However, these radars aren't continuous wave like your microwave oven, they are pulsed. 'My' radar had a 1 usec (microsecond) pulse width and pulsed at a rate of 3000 pulses per second. So the average power into the air in 1 second would be ((1500/1,000,000)*3000) = 45 watts! Physics says that this radar pulse (and all electromagnetic energy) is subject to something called the Inverse Square Law. What this means is that if the power density measured at 1 foot is 1 watt/cm, at 2 feet it would be .25watt/cm and at 100 feet it would be .0001watt/cm (P=1/D^2) Everytime you double the distance you see a subsequent decrease in power density of 1/4th. Shine a flashlight on your hand then on the wall across the room and you will see this 'law' in action. Not a lot of this radar signal hits the water does it...especially in light of the 150-300 watts of sunlight per square meter of ocean surface. Let's assume there is some sort of effect on water when the radar beam strikes it. When the radar signal had passed and the sun shone on the water wouldn't the effect be erased or at least 'normalized' with the remainder of the water in that area? A question that comes to mind about sunlight on water: What we perceive as white light actually consists of a spectrum of different frequencies. Why doesn't this cause a real mess in the molecular structure of the water? At least the microwave only emits a single frequency not the myriad of frequencies of sunlight. As to your questions above: Microwaves do not cause ionization which is what you describe. As a matter of fact everything from radio through ultraviolet light is known as non-ionizing radiation. X-rays and above are of high enough energy to cause ionization. The reason you should stand away from a microwave oven is it may cause your pacemaker to malfunction or if your oven leaks around the door seal you could suffer some of the effects as your burrito...cooking! Not good for the eyes I would imagine. Regards, George -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: CSRe: Silver - toxic heavy metal?
Wow, that's funny! LOL! So what's this guy smoking about, then? -Ken Bagwell --- jrowland sarongs...@cox.net wrote: ...This guy... 4.) seems to be mostly concerned with SeaSilver product, 5.) is outraged (rightfully so) by those claiming it is a miracle substance...---Ken Ironically, SeaSilver does not purport to contain CS in any form---their silver is derived from silver-containing sea vegetables. jr -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.5/150 - Release Date: 10/27/05 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSSilver - toxic heavy metal?
This guys sounds like he has: 1.) never used silver for very long, 2.) or used it but did not benefit for whatever reason, 3.) doesn't know that much about it, 4.) seems to be mostly concerned with SeaSilver product, 5.) is outraged (rightfully so) by those claiming it is a miracle sustance. I'm glad to see he is open minded to other things like oregano oil, Vitamin C, etc, but the way he writes this essay really smacks of outrage and lack of knowledge and experience. He sounds very angry about SeaSilver, as he himself or people he knew well got taken by a company that may have said more than they should have, or might have had a poor silver product. -Ken Bagwell --- cmccau...@kayescholer.com wrote: Did you all see this link? http://www.cqs.com/silver.htm This Dr. says Silver (metallic, colloidal, salts) is a toxic heavy metal that causes Cancer. I don't believe it. He pushes high dose Vitamin C therapy though. H. Any comments? Thanks. Christine Mc. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
Re: CSMICROWAVING
I am also on the fence about microwaving. Just to be safer, I try to use it as little as often, lower power settings, and stay at least a few feet away from it, just in case. But yes, cooking even stovetop changes protein structure to make the protein harder to digest. But that's the trade off for sanitation via heat. However, I will be reading Nenah's link about nukers at lunchtime. When I last looked up info about microwaving, there really was not much studies done on this, I don't think. Most sites referenced one researcher type who did a study comparing raw, conventional cooked and microwave cooked, but I'm not necessarily convinced by one person's study. Especially if it is a small study. With all that said, conventional stovetop and oven cooking still tastes WAY better, and the food stays hot much longer. Stovetop and Ovens Forever! -Ken Bagwell --- sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: Does ANY heat source change the molecular properties of foods/water? Frying an egg or boiling an egg in a pan on a stove top coagulates the proteins, which I'd think constitutes changing the properties. All heat is sort of radiation, isn't it? If I recall high school science at all any heat source makes the molecules of water bounce around, and eventually change into gas (steam)? I don't really know enough to be able to distinguish fact from fear of radiation in the microwave issue. sol Shenanigans wrote: Does it change the molecular properties of water? All we were doing here is sterilizing the water. You can easily boil the jar of water in a pot of boiling water on any kind of stove. You don't heat the vitamin C of course. Susie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSVitamin C
The one's you've bought are probably ok. However, I've usually buy NutriBiotic brand, because they pack it in nitrogen sealed bottles, assuring that the vitamin is as fresh as when first manufactured at the plant, no matter how long it's been on the shelf. http://www.nutribiotic.com/vitaminc.htm It's also pharmaceutical quality, supposedly, and not very expensive. Ester-C, is said by Hulda Clark, to contain detectable traces of nickel or some other metal (maybe it was thulium, I can't remember now). So I stayed away from it even though it sounds like a better C. -Ken Bagwell --- Revonda Henderson mrjam...@charter.net wrote: I buy vitamin C at walmart brand name Spring Valley Natural vitamin C 500 mg with Rose hips. I have also bought it at SAM's Club brand name Member's Mark Ester C 500mg and it says Natural/Non-Acidic with Rose Hips. My question is are these good vitamin C brands to buy and is ester C better? Thanks, Revonda __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
