Re: Filters working in v5?
Thank you for your support! I thought I was the only one who is happy with POP. I like POP too! :) I dont want to be the moderator here, but the topis does not reflect the subject. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 5.1.6.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 5.0 showstoppers
properly. I know that there is still a lot of things to do and to fix, but we need to make a milestone release - there are just too many reason to do it and the main one is psychological - it's really difficult to (re)write code for more than a year and not to make a release, it's just too much of pressure. I hope you're understand what I'm trying to say. No. If I am not ready with the scientific paper, I dont publish. If the carmaker is not ready with the steering wheel, the car is not sold. So, please post your showstoppers Read your mail. I know... to fix. Period. We are here not to change diapers. No, I dont get what you try to say. Come out with a flawless version for a change. Vili Current beta is 5.0.0.128 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: syncing contacts from address book
2 words: More details? :) VŠ RunaLDAPserver in your organization or at home VŠ (http://www.brennan.id.au/20-Shared_Address_Book_LDAP.html), or buy LDAP service VŠ from 3rd party. This was invented like 10 years ago. And I still VŠ cannot believe nobody heard of it. LOL! Yes, we could do that. Problem with Vilius is that he forgets that not everybody spends more than 20 min a day in front of the PC. Vili Current beta is 4.2.33.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Delayed Sending Questionable
A group of e-mail scheduled at various times this morning did not go out at all. Some red faces here in the office. Solution/to learn: dont use beta version for important things. Current beta is 4.2.33.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.23 MSI
Hello Maxim, I think the problem is related to a faulty plugin. If a plugin gives an exception while loading, The Bat! removes all the plugins. What it means? Should we wait for new version of Avast plugin? I don't know. Could you please add plugins one by one. After adding each plugin, exit The Bat! and run it again. So you will be able to find a troublesome plugin. You know that this is not the proper way to code a program, right? The correct way would be to show information messages for the user. The ... plugin is faulty, I remove all the plugins. Please fix the... plugin and... Not just removing the plugins. Whatever TB does, the user should be informed about it. And not in a .log file. But using information windows. Please realize at last that the users are users, not pc gurus. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.23 MSI
Hello Mark, KV The correct way would be to show information messages for the user. -8---8- KV And not in a .log file. But using KV information windows. I would love that! So I am guided to a web page that says Unknown problem, or gives a multitude of possible causes, mostly not even closely related, and looks like the instruction leaflet of medicines in which the producing company, not mainly caring about instructing the user, tries to avoid any kind of liability they might incur. For short: the way Microsoft and most major software suppliers work... I have lost hours on those! Most of the time it is impossible to solve the problem with that kind of information and one finally gets helped by Googling for other users' solutions. Or do you really think a software developer should waste his time in cataloging every possible cause of anything that could cause the malfunctioning of his software, even the ones that are extern to that product? If you dont mind, I quote the quoted text in my email: I think the problem is related to a faulty plugin. If a plugin gives an exception while loading, The Bat! removes all the plugins. What it means? Should we wait for new version of Avast plugin? I don't know. Could you please add plugins one by one. After adding each plugin, exit The Bat! and run it again. So you will be able to find a troublesome plugin. So, if a plugin gives an exception, TB removes all the plugins. I think, TB should warn the user about it. Nothing to do with Microsoft. I suppose that is not exactly what you have in mind, do you? But then again, how should it be done? See above. Hope, it is clear now. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.2.23 MSI
Hello Maxim, The correct way would be to show information messages for the user. The ... plugin is faulty, I remove all the plugins. Please fix the... plugin and... Thank you, we will do that. Thanks. Let the user always know in plain English/Russian/whatever, what the problem is. You would not like if your car would give you a printed Exception log that your distributor is broken. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.23.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
New MSI on Ritlabs site
TB of one of my very important customer, distributor of Total Commander, notified him about a new version, appeared yesterday on Ritlabs site, he downloaded, installed and TB dont start up. Downgraded, does not start. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 3 Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
4.2 on the website, REMOVE that IMMEDIATELY
Hello Maxim, Remove the install files you put there yesterday on your website immediately!!! Second customer wrote, that after TB told them there is a new version available, they upgraded and it does not start after that!!! Shit... -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 3 Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: New MSI on Ritlabs site
Hello Alexander, KV TB of one of my very important customer, distributor of Total KV Commander, notified him about a new version, appeared yesterday on KV Ritlabs site, he downloaded, installed and TB dont start up. KV Downgraded, does not start. First of all he has to make sure whether thebat.exe process stays there and is not terminated. Is the splash screen shown or not? Does he use the on-the-fly encryption of message base? What is the version he updated from? He could try out the latest beta as well: http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb42131.rar He can also contact me directly. Yes, and all customers should contact you? How?? They dont have email, remember? Could try THESE ARE CUSTOMERS, not eggheads from this list! Understand?? Fuck... Be careful what you put on your website! I have to put back the shit in the horse because of poor programmership :((( I will get answer to your questions in the meantime. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 3 Current beta is 4.2.13.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Upload to IMAP folder broken
I meanwhile submitted it to Bugtrack: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7723 Thank you very much, but we won't fix anything in the current IMAP implementation. We will release the completely new IMAP implementation that will have no bugs previously reported. Simple question: when? Gives us some hope... -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: buggy QTs
Hello Marek, Tuesday, September 15, 2009, Kertész Vilmos wrote: yes, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7440 it exists from january. great. but we got the delayed sending, didnt we? what do You need more from me? ;-) My comment was not against you, of course. just add a note to this report, I am not a reporter, but confirmed it already Why bother to add a note. Nothing will happen. I became apathetic over the last year. I dont believe TB is going somewhere, I dont see any signs. I WOULD LIKE to see the signs, dont misunderstand me. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: buggy QTs
Hello Marek, Hello all, Monday, September 14, 2009, Vili wrote: Make a QT in HTML format, insert a picture. When you use the QT in a HTML mail, the pic is not inserted. Confirmations? yes, https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7440 it exists from january. great. but we got the delayed sending, didnt we? -- Vili The Bat 2.12.00 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
USEFUL feature request for HTML mails
When I open a mail that has pictures from the net, and the site is approved, TB downloads the pics. However, you dont see any sign that it downloads them... There should be a small window saying Please wait, downloading internet contents to display the mail or something. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 3 Current beta is 4.2.10.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: IMAP
Yeah. The only problem is that it has now become an excuse. Because *now* there are fewer people interested in IMAP than there might have been -- so no need to implement it anymore, right? Then cut it out. But dont have a semiworking IMAP in a program. Server/client support was cut out once, so it can be done. But do that with v5, dont piss off the v4 users. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.14.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: SMTP with STARTTLS is not working
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009, at 12:43:13 [GMT +0100] (which was 13:43 where I live) GwenDragon wrote: PS: Bug reported as Exim4 TLS error on connection (over SMTP with STARTTLS) https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7524 @Ritlabs programmers Is this an issue which will be fixed? No. It has nothing to do with any unuseful features, so why fix? -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.29 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Wish: Note area on the main screen
I think, it would be really useful to either have SmartBat or the Scheduler or just a TMemo field be permanently displayed on the main screen. I think a good place would be under the account tree. You can dsplay the per message memo field in the message list. I dont get far with that if the message is out of screen, right? You also have a resizeable window that can be set to permenantly on to as a memo window I thinks its all there for you alread That memo window shows the memo field of the selected message. So, see above, does not provide what I would like. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.20 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Please support this BT
https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7576 Vili Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
One HTML bug
Now THIS should be solved, not some Postpone/Delay/Late send naming issue :( I barely use HTML mail, so not because it is my problem, but because it REALLY makes The Bat! an unreliable email client. I created an HTML only mail, pasted an Excel graph into it, showed up fine. When sent, neither the recipient, nor my copy in the Sent folder shows the pasted graph. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.19 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and Themida
Plus The Bat is not working with later builds of Windows 7 now. Geeks, give Ritlabs a break to fix bugs, not use them for your out-of-this-world pleasure. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat and Themida
Geeks, give Ritlabs a break to fix bugs, not use them for your out-of-this-world pleasure. So you think TB! should not work on the next generation Windows OS ? When it will be officially out, yes. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Number of attachments
I don't think that it is a problem. I think that it is OK. We can only leave the digits in this column, no grahpics and it will still be OK. Anyway to write the numbers of attachments in a lower font size? At me the numbers only appears when I click into the list of mails. If I select a new folder, only the attach icon shows up. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Number of attachments
V I think, this is a totally useless new source of problems (bugs)... V Come on, solve the real issues and leave the cosmetic changes. Dont V even touch them for a half a year. These kind of stuff will not V bring revenue, nor rebuild the respect of TB. There are MANY bugs V that affect the use of TB, this is just another gadget and Ritlabs V and the beta testers waste energy/time/money on it... I agree with you absolutely on this issue. Thank you for pointing it out. :) It was an easy addition and while I wouldn't have asked for it, I am finding it useful. It's the kind of cosmetic improvement that can make the Bat more saleable. What is useful in it? How often you use it to gather some extra information by knowing the number of attachments? Who decides if a feature is useful or not? Common sense. Which is less and less currently. If a client can download email, useful. If a client has a bug in the SMTP auth window, useless. Check it: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7523 This IS a real problem, people cannot send mails if they dont know the workaround. It would be USEFUL if this problem would be fixed instead of cosmetic changes. I always feel that we should add REAL users to the betalist to refresh the blood. I meet with them on a daily basis, so I try to suggest what they say... Their message: no more features, fix the errors. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Beta not working with Windows 7 Build 7077
That is not a very good response. This is very much likly to be the RC1 If I would be a developer of TB, I would not spend a minute with problems of an unofficial software. When Windows 7 will be out, they fix these problems. There are bigger fishes to fry at the moment, I believe. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.12 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Voyager migratng help
Hello Nick, Reply to message sent 3/28/2009, @ 18:14:56 (1:14 PM Locally) ~~~ Hello Hamish, - There is a tokenact.dat file... That's exactly what I was referring to. Thanks a lot! But... I got the following from Nick Danger some time ago. Did I really send this to you at some earlier date? Sheesh, if so then my memory is worse than I even thought it was. Just to ensure that your memory is ok: I wrote that. I shuffle Voyager between my 14 laptop (used at home), my 7 laptop (longer travel) and the USB stick (short travel) :) -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: entering more than one email address as recipient
Hello Carsten, Most people on this list will find this perfectly normal, since they are used to it, just like me. But apparently for new users this is not intuitive at all. In this case Ritlabs should have Enter behave exactly as it does in Outlook, as the current function of Enter in this case is no use at all: When confirming the Why mimick Outlook? Next version will be different anyway... I would say, dont change it. If a new user will stop using TB because of it, let be it. None of the users I know stopped using TB because of _it_. (Cannot check this story:) A user told me that when he tries to import an EML to Outlook, he cannot do that. Instead he has to import into Outlook Express, then to import to Outlook. If OE can import it, but Outlook cannot, I think that is Outlook's fault. But they blame TB... Why? My experience is that this kind of whining users will never buy TB anyway. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [The Bat 0007528]: Language of Tabs under Folderview does not refresh on switching Language
Donnerstag, 12. März 2009 at 21:50, Marek Mikus wrote: Thats of course better than critism on other People! closing your duplicate Bugtraq issue is a critism? hmm No, not in this case, but normally you do critism on every little thing what others do - so this is meant as a hint for what you care and what you don't. Marek can defend himself, but let me say something: a.) I completely disagree with you. I did not see any indication so far what you just wrote. b.) If someone is practical and doesnt kiss your a.s, dont be offended. He closed the issue as it was a duplicate. Someone has to maintain the BT system. The problem with the world nowadays is that people cannot take anything without a sugarcoat on it. Yes, my son, you were fantastic. Yes, you could not kick the ball straight, but who cares, you are the best soccer player I ever seen. So, rub some dirt on it and let's close the thread. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SMTP authentication fails, easy to fix bug
Please confirm: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7523 In the SMTP Auth. window there are two choices: - Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval - Use specific settings Problem is, that if someone first select Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval and check the Require secure auth., then select Use specific settings and NOT select the Require secure auth. box, the SMTP auth will not work if no need for sec. auth. The problem is that even if I use the Use specific settings, it seems that the program uses the settings of the Require secure auth. box of Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval. In summary: the problem is that the settings of the Require secure auth. box of the Same user/password as for Mail Retrieval option affects the Use specific settings. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Maximum number/age of messages in a folder
I think, there is a bug when you set the Maximum number/age of messages in a folder. I mean, for me it is a bug, not a WAD, or if it is WAD, it has to be changed. So, the mail has to be read in order to remove it. If you set 100/100 for number and age, and you have e.g. 200 unread messages in that folder, none of them will be removed. If the mails are read, it works. For me, if I specify 100/100, I dont want the read flag to be accounted as a factor in the decision if a mail has to be deleted, or not. If it is WAD, I suggest to have a Delete unread mails too checkbox there. Confirmations, support? -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: News: Thunderbird IMAP
Hello Jens, They know they are not going to win the whole world with The Bat! Thats not based on true! The Bat! has been the first Application which got a big respect of every people - users and admins. I was brought to the Bat 1.62 or something by a collegue/friend of me in the early times. I am not sure, but i think i have all The Bat! licences availiable (bought myself). I think in 2000 there has been a potential for making strong marketing and rise up The Bat (at least here in Germany). Dieter Hummel sold many licenses in Germany, I know that. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: News: Thunderbird IMAP
IMAP in thunderbird 3 beta made several improvements. I can not see if it is getting better or different. And why do we read it here? Why do you ask for something you might know already? If I would have known already, I would not have sent that email. Really, I dont have a clue. Also, you say that it is improved, and in the next sentence you dont see that it is getting better... ?? No offense. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: News: Thunderbird IMAP
Hello Jens, IMAP in thunderbird 3 beta made several improvements. I can not see if it is getting better or different. And why do we read it here? -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Forwarding an HTML mail with added text is faulty
V The test I did: I forwarded a commented HTML message to another email V address of mine. In my Sent folder, when I open the mail, I CAN see V the comment. When I download the mail to my other email account (in TB), THERE V IS NO TRACE of the comment in the source of the email. Paul van Noord: I tested this with my version of Voyager and several clients and it seems to be a M$ problem. Since my customers do not use M$ email clients the problem never arises for me. I also think it is a problem with Outlook, as it displays the wrong wrong attachment. But I am not sure. The problem is with the Exchange server, I think. Now I tried it with a simple SMTP server, the comment showed up. V My environment was: V - sending from a TB account with Exchange protocol V - receiving to a TB account with a GMail address V I will test it with simple POP accounts and see if I can reproduce it. If you send as plaintext, the original message.html will just be an attachment on the receiving side. If you send as HTML, TB! will give you a choice which message.html you want to open. If you use PTV by default (like I do), the correct reply with comments is shown in the preview. With normal SMTP it works ok. Crap is off the table, let's eat :) -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dramatic increase in VM use
Hello Mackley, Tested with official stable TheBat! 4.1.11 on MS WinXP Home SP2 italian 3. When I start up TB, these numbers are around 52 MB. It says 43.572 KB 4. Hit Ctrl+R (Reply) on a message. At me, the memory and VM use goes up to 130-140 MB in like 2-3 seconds. It says 45.356 KB, after half minute. No increase here. Did you hit reply? If you cannot confirm it, it will be one of my Quick Templates. I know, it sounds strange, but I saw in the past slow down and too much memory use because of Quick Templates. Now I will track it down for good. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Dramatic increase in VM use
3. When I start up TB, these numbers are around 52 MB. It says 43.572 KB 4. Hit Ctrl+R (Reply) on a message. At me, the memory and VM use goes up to 130-140 MB in like 2-3 seconds. It says 45.356 KB, after half minute. No increase here. Try to close and open a reply again. What I see with Process Explorer is that Thread ID 2812 starts up and is not finished when start to reply to a mail and close that window. If I clear my Quick Templates, I have to do this process twice in order to have large VM use. There is a memory leak here... -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Dramatic increase in VM use
1. Open the Task Manager 2. Be sure that you have the VM size, Memory use columns. 3. When I start up TB, these numbers are around 52 MB. 4. Hit Ctrl+R (Reply) on a message. At me, the memory and VM use goes up to 130-140 MB in like 2-3 seconds. It is too much of an increase. Confirmation? -- Vili The Bat 4.1.11 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.11.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Quick Search suddenly Invisible
Hello Thomas, RO ,- [ ] RO | Quick Search is a real-time search to find a message in the message RO | list. As you type, the first message matching your string is selected RO | in the list; type on for further refinement. RO | Just a question: Is this useful to anyone? I have tried to use Quicksearch but always ended up opening the (real) Search in order to find what I was looking for. It is for sophisticated users, not beginners, that is true. I think, it is a useful feature, use regularly. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Development for URL manager
Hello Peter, KV Sometimes I get these phishing mails. Easy to recognize, as the KV visible link and the link if I would click on it are different. KV How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this KV visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something? I don't think it is necessary. When I hover the mouse on the link the underlying URL is shown - that's good enough for me. I wouldn't want yet another popup. I dont want to write it down many times, but I will do it once again, using different words: TB's development's direction should favor the average user, not the geeks by my opinion. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.1.9.1
Hello Jens, The Bat! 4.1.9.1 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4191.rar What's new in 4.1.9.1 since 4.1.9: [*] A warning that a new backup format is incompatible with previous backup formats Confirmed working, tested in Virtual Machine Win2000 Sp4 with install of The Bat! 3.99.25 and changed the .exe File to 4.1.9.1 Anlagen: 1) 20090110-Format-warning.png (4503 Byte, IrfanView PNG File) The text says: multiple custom flags. Are they already available? -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Development for URL manager
Hello NetVicious, I don't think it is necessary. When I hover the mouse on the link the underlying URL is shown - that's good enough for me. I wouldn't want yet another popup. Ritlabs could add one option for enable/disable this warning. Yes, that's possible. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Development for URL manager
Sometimes I get these phishing mails. Easy to recognize, as the visible link and the link if I would click on it are different. How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something? -- Vili Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Development for URL manager
Hello MAU, Sometimes I get these phishing mails. Easy to recognize, as the visible link and the link if I would click on it are different. How about that TB checks the links in the HTML emails and if see this visible/real links difference, a window pops up saying something? What about the click *HERE* or to _unsubscribe_ type links, they are always different. Check if the visible link is a weblink, not just a word. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Take out the fucking automatic update from the program
Dont even leave any trace of it!! Shit... More and more users send me angry emails that they are tricked: they have automated update and they let the program do it. Result is: Evaluation copy. THIS IS A SERIOUS BUSINESS ISSUE!! Ritlabs' business attitude is down the toilet. Users blame me, curse, etc. It should NEVER happen... DO SOMETHING TODAY Very few of them upgrade, some say they delete TB, and angry. Very angry. One is a journal editor and he will write about it. It will be a very negative article about TB's business attitude. I am sorry, but I cannot stop him, and honestly, he's right :((( It is time to be honest here if I want good for TB and Ritlabs. Vili Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Folders with 0 messages after conversion
I read that it seems that the problem in the subject is solved, I just thought I add my observation: at me it happened with the Inbox of password protected accounts. When I downloaded the mails after this, only the new mails were shown. Then I quit TB, deleted the TBN file and restarted TB. It seems that it cured the TBN files, all message is visible. -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Folders with 0 messages after conversion
Hello Marek, I read that it seems that the problem in the subject is solved, I just thought I add my observation: at me it happened with the Inbox of password protected accounts. When I downloaded the mails after this, only the new mails were shown. Then I quit TB, deleted the TBN file and restarted TB. It seems that it cured the TBN files, all message is visible. this should be solved in 4.1.9 final Thanks Marek. That is one reason I still dont publish v4.1 on my Hungarian site. Who knows what major bug is in v4.1.9. These kinds of stuff should NEVER happen. A version should be tested for a month at least before a public release. We are professionals, but the users are not. :((( -- Vili The Bat 4.1.7 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.1.9 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA)
Hello Maxim, The Bat! 4.1.1.8 RC1 (BETA) is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/beta/tb4118.rar What's new in 4.1.1.8 since 4.1.1.7: [-] Import from Unix mailboxes didn't work in the recent betas (BETA issue) [-] Import from Unix mailboxes did produce TMP files in the %TEMP% folder [-] The Bat! didn't start on Windows NT 4 (Beta issue) Dont rush it. You dont have publish it before Christmas. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 Current beta is 4.1.1.8 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Usable feature : Backuping registry for restoring them back
Hello Marek, TB will save registry to file on every exit of program (like it can be done manually (regedit /e thebat.reg HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\RIT\The Bat!) and when will be TB installed and there will be no registry tree detected, TB will try to detect this file with backuped registry and offer user to use it like when it find accounts. What You think? It would be much easier if it would not even use the registry at all. It should use an INI file just like Voyager. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.39.39 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.39.34
Hello Marek, What's new in 4.0.39.34 since 4.0.39.33: [-] (Beta) HTML templates could not be used in Mass mailing [*] help icon added to main menu presonally I do not like it, I understand using this icon in submenu, but not in main menu instead Help text. This is not ribbon menu, so I do not like combining text and image... I agree 100%. Help menu is the standard, not a Help icon. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.39.34 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: messages go missing
Hello Thomas, I don't want any red windows. I'm not user v1.0, the log is enough. DE Sorry you are wrong here. Interesting. I checked again and I still don't want any red windows. KV Unfortunately, it is not about you. No, it's about Gmail's non-standard behaviour. This is a non-issue for most people. No, you are wrong. It is about LETTING THE USER KNOW if there is an error in receiving mails. KV I am sure, that your majesty reads all programs' manual, all fineprint KV of the credit cards and medicines. No need to be sarcastic. It won't help the discussion and development of ideas. Why, being selfish does? KV The same applies here. You can be suspicious. I dont want to be. I and KV the other 99.9% of the users of TB want to be notified about problems. KV (I know, believe me, shit falls down to me and I believe, to Marek, KV too, if TB has a glitch. Glitch: for example unfixed bugs in the last KV version of TB, that had C/S support.) And want to know how to deal KV with it. We are not talking about a glitch or bug in TB!. TB! is WAD. The discussion is about whether the design needs to be changed in order to cater to one non-standard email provider. I say no, you say yes. Fine. Thomas: please read again the thread. Read your mails. It is not about GMail anymore. It is about IF THE MAILS ARE NOT IMPORTED FOR ANY REASON, the log is not enough. Please don't let TB! go the way for the stupidest user imaginable. KV Unfortunately, TB is a commercial product. It HAS TO BE PREPARED KV for everybody, including the stupidest user. Dont forget: you KV can be a stupidest user of ... e.g. a car, a chemical, a KV prescription drug, etc. Not everybody lives in a country where this product may be hot has to be printed on a hot coffee cup in big red letters. Who you are talking about? What I talk about: nobody is expert in everything. Not everybody wants to know how everything works. E.g. I know how caffeine works in your body. You just drink the coffee. I bet, you did not know that it is its metabolite that responsible for its effect, right? (Dont Google it now.) I am a chemist, you are not. We are different. DE What if you have gone away from your computer for a cup of DE coffee. A message of two could not be saved because of space. DE Then because of a process that you are running e.g. a clean up, DE space becomes available it can then download the next set of DE messages. Then the message will be downloaded whne the space is available. It is KV Aha. Say an important message cannot be downloaded because of this. KV And you agree with this. Interesting business attitude... If there is no space in your harddisk, you will have other problems. And, if it happens so regularly that you need your email client to tell you, you should review your policies with regards to disk space usage. Shit man, try to understand that NOT EVERYBODY wants to be an expert. Am I vulgar now? Yes. I deal with users of TB every day. And this kind of small issues will kill TB on the long run. KV Dont forget: TB is used by corporate users. TB is a business tool for KV them. Not glitches allowed. Or if recognized, must be fixed. Correct, but there is no glitch here. Ok, then something that can be improved on. Easily. only on Gmail that this doesn't work, so don't use Gmail.Don't give me red windows for all my accounts just because of Gmail's non-standard behaviour. KV We moved over GMail a long time ago. This conversation is about failed KV import of messages FOR ANY REASON. The reason is Gmail... If a message is not imported, why does Gmail prevent a second download attempt? I suggest to change email provider, as TB! already re-downloads by default. Only Gmail doesn't let it. BUT: the user should know about if the mail download is UNSUCCESSFUL for any reason. DE In this case the warning would have gone past in the status bar, DE you would not have noticed. I don't want to, because TB! attempts to downlaod the message again until it has been successfully imported into the message base. KV Nonsense... Really? You seem to know about the inner workings of TB! than Stefan, who said the same - and it is my experience also. Yes, I've been in the situation that one or more mails couldn't be imported, no problem: TB! downloaded them again next time. Of course, I don't use Gmail. I used the word nonsense for that it is acceptable for you to wait until a mail can be downloaded. What if it cannot be downloaded for hours??? DE And you call this a 'stupid' user. DE I would like a warning box with some detail, if necessary it can DE be switched off for the 'intelligent' users. Turn it off by default. KV No. Hardwire it in. Just in case somebody uses Gmail... Nice suggestion. If I would read this conversation to my 5 year olds, they would understand that IT IS NOT ABOUT GMAIL... Should I spell it? Vili
Re[3]: messages go missing
Hello Paul, TF We are not talking about a glitch or bug in TB!. TB! is WAD. The TF discussion is about whether the design needs to be changed in order to TF cater to one non-standard email provider. I say no, you say yes. Fine. I agree! It is absurd to adulterate any program so it functions with something as poorly designed as Gmail. TF The reason is Gmail... If a message is not imported, why does Gmail TF prevent a second download attempt? I suggest to change email provider, TF as TB! already re-downloads by default. Only Gmail doesn't let it. Amen! After testing I wrote Gmail off for me and my customers. For many reasons! TF Really? You seem to know about the inner workings of TB! than Stefan, TF who said the same - and it is my experience also. Yes, I've been in TF the situation that one or more mails couldn't be imported, no problem: TF TB! downloaded them again next time. Of course, I don't use Gmail. Same goes for me and my customers. IT IS NOT ABOUT GMAIL. Please read the mails we exchanged. Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[5]: messages go missing
Hello Van Noord, KV IT IS NOT ABOUT GMAIL. Please read the mails we exchanged. I have been reading the thread. For practical purposes it is about Gmail. No. If you really read it, it is about that when a mail downloaded but not imported, let the user know it. Put it into their face. I have hundreds of TB users in many countries around the world. I teach them about the Log because I want them to be aware and enabled, not controlled by ignorance. You dont see the point here. It is about John Doe, who buys TB from Cifnet with his credit card, and does not want to look at a 1-line pane at the bottom of his screen IF TB does not work as it is designed.. And even if he does, what does he see there? Please read Elliott's initial mail. Better, I paste his log: 19/11/2008, 19:46:31: FETCH - receiving mail messages 19/11/2008, 19:46:33: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 1A2280FB, algorithm: RSA (512 bits), issued from 29/10/2008 22:32:35 to 24/10/2028 22:32:35, for 1 host(s): pop.gmail.com. 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - Owner: EN, pop.gmail.com. 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - This certificate is self-issued. 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 19/11/2008, 19:46:34: FETCH - connected to POP3 server 19/11/2008, 19:46:35: FETCH - authenticated (plain) 19/11/2008, 19:46:35: FETCH - 3 messages in the mailbox, 3 new 19/11/2008, 19:46:36: FETCH - Received message from Mark Laridon [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3065 bytes, subject: Meeting Wednesday 3rd December 19/11/2008, 19:46:36: FETCH - Received message from Geoff Boult [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3640 bytes, subject: VAT 19/11/2008, 19:46:36: FETCH - Received message from Mark Laridon [EMAIL PROTECTED], size: 3397 bytes, subject: Re: VAT !19/11/2008, 19:47:08: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat623.tmp) !19/11/2008, 19:47:43: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat624.tmp) !19/11/2008, 19:48:13: FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat625.tmp) 19/11/2008, 19:48:13: FETCH - connection finished - 3 messages received Last line: oh, wow, 3 messages received? (That is what they see in that 1-line status window.) TB WAD? Everything is ok? Where in the hell is that 3 received mail??? Where it is described in the manual what that FETCH - could not store message (file name - C:\DOCUME~1\Davide\LOCALS~1\Temp\bat623.tmp) means? Huh??? I dont remember such section. You teach your TB customers (not really TB customers, I am sure, they dont pay _only_ for TB) this too I am sarcastic? Yes, you bet. My intention is to make TB better. If it needs sarcasm, let's go that way. On the _very rare_ occasion that a message doesn't download they know where to look for the reason, and, can view all of the account activity. How can you differentiate between: a.) connection is ok, but mails cannot be imported or b.) everything was ok? Check the log all the time? Also, all users are taught how to use the webmail interface for their account(s). Why the hell is this important here? I know only one reason: you want to show how great you are. Ok, I send you a pin for this. How many times have you, or another user, had this problem with a service other than Gmail? This is what shows your ignorance. When a bug detected, that should be corrected. Even if the chance that bug causing a problem is slim. That is called good programming attitude. I repeat: if the bug DETECTED and known. And please, can we finally forget GMail??? It was Gmail that started this thread. It is still about Gmail with a miniscule need for this using other providers. So, if somebody would cut your phone and internet lines, what would you say if your provider would say: Sir, it just affects you, so who cares...? You are totally ignorant... I am not against an error message for non-downloadable messages. I am totally against a large _red_ panic message as you suggest. Ok, it can be blue if that helps. :) Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: messages go missing
Hello Thomas, I don't want any red windows. I'm not user v1.0, the log is enough. DE Sorry you are wrong here. Interesting. I checked again and I still don't want any red windows. Unfortunately, it is not about you. DE The log is not enough. To see stuff in it you need to go an look. Yes, but I don't need to see this regularly. If I have a suspicion something is wrong, I will take a look at the log. That's what it's for. I am sure, that your majesty reads all programs' manual, all fineprint of the credit cards and medicines. For us, simple people, dont have time to read everything. You remind me to my friend. He's 37, like me. The difference is, that I have 4 kids, a company and a job. He only have a job. No girlfriend, nothing. He always accuse me that I am sloppy with some things. I have to be, if I want to sleep sometimes. The same applies here. You can be suspicious. I dont want to be. I and the other 99.9% of the users of TB want to be notified about problems. (I know, believe me, shit falls down to me and I believe, to Marek, too, if TB has a glitch. Glitch: for example unfixed bugs in the last version of TB, that had C/S support.) And want to know how to deal with it. Please don't let TB! go the way for the stupidest user imaginable. Unfortunately, TB is a commercial product. It HAS TO BE PREPARED for everybody, including the stupidest user. Dont forget: you can be a stupidest user of ... e.g. a car, a chemical, a prescription drug, etc. DE What if you have gone away from your computer for a cup of coffee. DE A message of two could not be saved because of space. Then because DE of a process that you are running e.g. a clean up, space becomes DE available it can then download the next set of messages. Then the message will be downloaded whne the space is available. It is Aha. Say an important message cannot be downloaded because of this. And you agree with this. Interesting business attitude... Dont forget: TB is used by corporate users. TB is a business tool for them. Not glitches allowed. Or if recognized, must be fixed. only on Gmail that this doesn't work, so don't use Gmail.Don't give me red windows for all my accounts just because of Gmail's non-standard behaviour. We moved over GMail a long time ago. This conversation is about failed import of messages FOR ANY REASON. DE In this case the warning would have gone past in the status bar, DE you would not have noticed. I don't want to, because TB! attempts to downlaod the message again until it has been successfully imported into the message base. Nonsense... DE And you call this a 'stupid' user. DE I would like a warning box with some detail, if necessary it can DE be switched off for the 'intelligent' users. Turn it off by default. No. Hardwire it in. Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Restore
Hello Roland, RB In 4.0.38 I have not got all my messages! I think that there are missing 3.000. Sure. You should not go to .38 and continue to use the Alpha, this is what Maxim actually said in his messages about .36 and .38. Sorry, if it wasn't clear enough... Now, you should backup your messages in .38, run the Alpha again and restore messages from .38. But there I don't see all my old - and some times very important - messages! I have in the meantime deleted the whole TheBat. I have printed out my TheBat! Key Block and have written it now by hand in the registration. It seems, however, that there is something wrong. Therefore I have written concerning the key to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , hoping for help! As you can see, I have also not any more all my templates! :-( I can confirm some similar behaviour. I upgraded my old version to the newest MSI. After that, some old message did not appear. Then (I had old exe-s) I went back to sem 4.0.24.0 or something and the messages are there again. (That was another machine, not this.) Guys, something stinks here. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Restore Problems
Hello Hamish, More serious in my experience is the lack of sync features between The Bat and Voyager. Attempts to keep my Voyager memory stick and my PC's The Bat are frustrating to say the least. Do this: use Voyager on your PC as well. - There is a tokenact.dat file in the MAIL subfolder, that is specific for the drive Voyager is installed on. Make a copy of it with tokenact_usb.dat name in the same dir (copy somewhere else first, rename it, move back). - Copy the Voyager dir from your USB drive to the PC. - Start Voyager and activate it again. - Now make a copy of the current tokenact.dat file in the MAIL subfolder with tokenact_PC.dat name in the same dir (copy somewhere else first, rename it, move back). - At this point you have tokenact.dat, tokenact_usb.dat, tokenact_PC.dat in the MAIL subfolder. Use Voyager. If you travel, just copy the whole Voyager onto the USB stick, delete the tokenact.dat file, copy the tokenact_usb.dat as tokenact.dat into the MAIL and you are ready to use it. After the travel, just copy the whole Voyager from the USB stick onto the PC, delete the tokenact.dat file, copy the tokenact_PC.dat as tokenact.dat into the MAIL and you are ready to use it. I think, you get the idea. I do this, except that I shuttle the same Voyager between my 14 laptop (used at home), my 7 laptop (longer travel) and the USB stick (short travel) :). -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.39.27 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: messages go missing
Hello Marek, It's actually how GMail behaves - the messages are deleted as soon as they're downloaded, no matter what client wants to do with them afterwards. You can use Web interface and reset counters to be able to download messages again. Beware the dupes! :-) But we all agree that if The Bat! cannot save the 1st mail, it should NOT download the other messages but give the user a big red screen that he has to cleanup the TEMP dir, and ONLY allow download mail when the user confirms that it cleaned it. OR: be sure before download a mail that it will be able to store it: check size and check if it can store the temp file on the HDD. agree, I have added a BT report long time ago about impossible deleting of messages - after long invetigation, reason was insufficient space, but there was no warning about that, del key just did nothing. This is just my suggestion to Ritlabs: these are the small (correction: seems to be small) things that makes a BIG difference. Reliability. Dependability. Error handling. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.34.25 (ALPHA) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SmartBat, new feature should be revoked
For some beta, the pads in SmartBat has an X (close) beside their names. I use SmartBat extensively, and I already closed two pads in a week. Problem is, even if I reload, the order of the pads cannot be changed. PLEASE remove those X-es from the tabs. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.34.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Slow TB and Voyager exit
After using TB and TBV for days, exit is slow again. Even with the newest versions. Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Slow Bat
Try to delete the QTs that you dont use. I had the same problem and when I deleted some QT, it became much faster. Strange? For me too, but without the code itself I cant tell why the two things (QT and overall speed) are related. That is an unlikely cause. I only have 2 quick templates defined Give it a try. In my case, I deleted one, and my TB sped up. Maybe there was a problem with it. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.34.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Voyager - backup - relative path
In the setup of the Backup: Is the a possibility to give a relative path where to store the backup files? As far as I see there can only be an absolute path. Would be nice when Voyager could support this feature - my USB external Harddrive with Voyager is not connected to the same PC all the time. On this PC Voyager is under F:\ - on the other under H:\ and IMHO it makes no sense to store the backup files on drive C:\ It makes no sense to backup something to the same drive... Even if you are afraid that Voyager itself dies. Then make a copy of the Voyager dir instead of using the internal, undocumented, (unfortunately) sometimes failing backup/restore feature. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Slow Bat
My TheBat! has run very well for quite some time, but due to a backup/restore it is now running at about 38CPS. That is just a little too slow for me. ... Can anybody help me with this problem? 1) What could be failing? Try to delete the QTs that you dont use. I had the same problem and when I deleted some QT, it became much faster. Strange? For me too, but without the code itself I cant tell why the two things (QT and overall speed) are related. Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
SmartBat problem
I have this problem from... I dont know... v3.9 or so. When I open SmartBat (individual or tool window, does not matter), I dont see the tabs. If I - resize the window or - click in the Scheduler panel on the left and after on the SmartBat panel again the tabs appear. This is a problem for me with the newest version as well. I know, that nobody else saw this problem, so I made a video about it, you can see at: http://www.macasoft.hu/Maxim/2008-09-07-14-24-38.mpg Any help what to try? I dont want to reinstall Voyager (I tried a clean install on another machine, does not show the symptom.) -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SmartBat problem
This is a problem for me with the newest version as well. Your video seems to be from a version before 4.0.34. Are you sure that this error persists in 4.0.34? We have redesigned the tabs completely in this version. Ok, I had 4.0.32.2, I try the newest one. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SmartBat problem
This is a problem for me with the newest version as well. Your video seems to be from a version before 4.0.34. Are you sure that this error persists in 4.0.34? We have redesigned the tabs completely in this version. Checked, the problem still exists. I know, that I dont have this problem on a new install. What do you store regarding the state, window position, etc. about SmartBat? I found a SmartPad section in the global.ini, but did not help when I changed them. Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SmartBat problem
This is a problem for me with the newest version as well. Your video seems to be from a version before 4.0.34. Are you sure that this error persists in 4.0.34? We have redesigned the tabs completely in this version. I fixed it. This is how: I grabbed the Date/Search toolbar on the top, and moved it to the center of the window. Closed the window. After reopening, the tabs were shown and the Date/Search toolbar was in the middle, where I left it. I moved it back to the top, closed the window. After reopening, the tabs are still ok :) Restart, still ok :) What I noticed: when I started to move around the Date/Search toolbar, I was able to insert the toolbar to the very left/top corner of the window, ABOVE the Notepad tab. Now I cannot do that... How, where do you store the display coordinates of the Date/Search toolbar of SmartBat? -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: SmartBat problem, video 2.
This is a problem for me with the newest version as well. Your video seems to be from a version before 4.0.34. Are you sure that this error persists in 4.0.34? We have redesigned the tabs completely in this version. So, as I said, I fixed it, but I wanted to reproduce the problem, and managed to do it. Check http://www.macasoft.hu/Maxim/2008-09-07-18-03-59.mpg I moved around the Date/Search toolbar in the SmartBat window, and when it is placed ABOVE the Notepad tab, the bottom tabs dont appear when you open SmartBat. -- Vili Current beta is 4.0.34.0 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Save as Draft - Closing Message?
I am not sure if this is bug report [as I see it it is] or a feature request: When I save a message as a draft TB should not close the message window! TB will definitely close editor, You have Save button to save without closing editor. I agree with Marek with this. Use Ctrl+S if you want to be sure you dont lose the changes. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.32.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager, Options, Preferences
At the General and the System panes, I have some extra empty space on the top of the right side. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.32.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: TB starting
Hello Graham, This problem occurs occasionally and is a pain when it does. Think it has only happened with the recent beta versions of 4.28 .. When starting TB it displays the version info window and this should then go away for password entry but every now and then it sticks and nothing seems to make it go away and the only recourse is to close the program and re-load. Similar problem with Voyager, I dont know if it is really related or not: if you start Voyager twice (click on the shortcut to Voyager.exe twice) before the password is entered, then the main screen of Voyager is shown and no mail is loaded. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Broken Exchange download
Hello Henk, I have the idea that with this this version downloading messages and removing them from the server takes a lot of time... Yes - recieving and sending messages (exchange via imap) with this beta is slower. Not only slower while I had some different tasks at the background more than once the Bat! frooze. Agree. At me, the sending is stuck in the queue. Back to some old version. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.4 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Mod: Bad language (was: Broken Exchange send)
Hello Roelof, V Fuck man, it is an English list. Where are the moderators I am V sure, I will get an email for the language... :( And right you are. :-) There were several emails in Russian, German, etc. I hoped if I swear, I get the attention of the moderators :) -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: 4.0.28.2
Hello Maxim, Because a lot of innocent users are suffering from the providers, mainly in the U.S.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat!#Forged_headers Ritlabs should sue the mass mailers' developers. They forge INTENTIONALLY the X-Mailer header that has bad effect on Ritlabs' business. Simple. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: X-Mailer header (was: 4.0.28.2)
Hello Thomas, Because a lot of innocent users are suffering from the providers, mainly in the U.S.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bat!#Forged_headers KV Ritlabs should sue the mass mailers' developers. They forge KV INTENTIONALLY the X-Mailer header that has bad effect on Ritlabs' KV business. Simple. I agree. But how practical is that advice? If those developers are in another country, imagine the legal cost involved. They have to sue them in Moldova. Or just write a virus that takes out that mailer and upload it everywhere. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: Broken Exchange send
OV Здравствуйте, Oleg. OV Вы писали 15 августа 2008 г., 21:45:04: With the newest release, I cannot send emails using MAPI (Exchange). Went back to an older one, it works. OV sorry, it was not for you OV what doesn't work in newest release? Вы вообще читаете багтрекер? Там висит блок баг для одной из последних бет, а никто до релиза даже и не почесался. https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/view.php?id=7187 Fuck man, it is an English list. Where are the moderators I am sure, I will get an email for the language... :( -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Exchange AV
Please confirm that the latest beta sends files properly over the Exchange protocol. I can test that on Monday. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.28.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Smart Bat New Pad
If you pick the Smart Bat always on top option and try to make a new pad, the name file window opens up under the Smart Bat window rendering the program unusable. What do you mean, under? At me, I can make new windows... -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.25 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: 4.0.24.13
The Bat! 4.0.24.13 is available at it does not recognize my thebat registration... not confirmed here. To everybody: Question 0.: Do you have this problem or not? Question 1.: Do you use OTFE or not? Question 2.: Which version did you register/when did you buy your TB? Will your code be ok for v4.1 or just ok for v4.0? -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Problem with reg, was: Re[2]: 4.0.24.13
Will your code be ok for v4.1 or just ok for v4.0? It seems from the mails, that v4.1x codes work, v4.0 not. I test it, and come back. I have a lot of code :) -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Problem with reg, was: Re[2]: 4.0.24.13
Will your code be ok for v4.1 or just ok for v4.0? It seems from the mails, that v4.1x codes work, v4.0 not. I test it, and come back. I have a lot of code :) Hmmm... All codes work at me. So I dont know what decides if it shows up registered or not. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.24.13 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.24.13 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Video Issue?
Hello Rick, I am noticing an issue that is happening only in The Bat Same here... I have some Snapshot files, I will send it to Ritlabs. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Alert window for new mails, (WAS VBScript (WAS Feature Request))
Hello Munango-Keewati,
I wrote a small program now in Delphi 3 for this. 190 kB.
Download, copy somewhere and point to that file in the filter and add
the custom text. Simple for things like You've got mail.
Thank you very much. This will do the job for me.
I made a v2 from it, download link is the same:
http://www.thebat.hu/TBAlert.exe
This should be the commandline when you run it from the filters as
external command:
C:\Program Files\The Bat!\Processing\TBAlert.exe %FROM %SUBJECT New mail!
I changed the icon from TB's icon to my favorite and added the
possibility to accept 3 parameter strings.
Also, I changed the TMemo to TColorMemo.
The only code:
procedure TForm1.FormShow(Sender: TObject);
begin
//Stay on top
with Self do
SetWindowPos(Handle,HWND_TOPMOST,Left,Top,Width,Height,SWP_NOACTIVATE or
SWP_NOMOVE or SWP_NOSIZE);
//Display the first command line parameter
If ParamCount0 Then Memo1.Lines.Add('From: '+Paramstr(1));
If ParamCount1 Then Memo1.Lines.Add('Subject: '+Paramstr(2));
If ParamCount2 Then Memo1.Lines.Add('Note: '+Paramstr(3));
end;
Enjoy.
--
Vili
The Bat 4.0.20 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2
Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information:
http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leak (WAS Video Issue?)
Hello Rick, I am noticing an issue that is happening only in The Bat I keep the Bat open all day as the day progresses (after quite a while) the bat will slow down The reason it that TB eats away the Virtual Memory. Sometimes, the VM goes up to 150 MB very soon at me, I did not find the cause yet. BUT: monitor the VM in the Task Manager, and open/close an email that has online images in it. You may see that the size of the VM increases. Not that much, but there is a memory leak. Also, at some mail with online content, I dont see VM increase. We should test which HTML mails causing VM leak and which not... -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?)
Ok, I found the cause of the HUGE VM size and I think the slowdowns: - start TB. It is like 50 MB VM at me. - open the Mail Editor to write a mail The size of the VM shoots up to 125 MB... It is not lowered when I send the mail or close the mail editor. Isnt it a little too much increase? Also, I tested it with v4 Voyager, there is NO significant VM size increase when opening the Mail Editor window. I use MicroEd in both. Confirmation? -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Memory leak, 2. (WAS Video Issue?)
Hello Rick, Ok, I found the cause of the HUGE VM size and I think the slowdowns: - start TB. It is like 50 MB VM at me. - open the Mail Editor to write a mail The size of the VM shoots up to 125 MB... It is not lowered when I send the mail or close the mail editor. Isnt it a little too much increase? Also, I tested it with v4 Voyager, there is NO significant VM size increase when opening the Mail Editor window. I use MicroEd in both. Confirmation? I am not seeing the memory jump as you are but it is definitely related to using the mail editor (I am also using microed) i.e. a reply, new message etc. Check the size of the _Virtual Memory_. But I have to admit, the _memory_ usage also jump to lik 120 MB... It is independent from the account used. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: VBScript (WAS Feature Request)
Thank you! As I've now learned from Vili, the macro parameters have to be in quotes as well. Only if the parameters contain more than one word, e.g. usually the subject of a mail. Also the From: field... So, it's safe to always use the quotes. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20.2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.2 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Problem displaying a mail
Hello Thomas, TF This is not the first time I'm the only who cannot confirm a bug that TF everybody else sees. ;-) PH msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OK, so I'm not the only one! ;-) I cannot find that message, but there was two cases: a. WinXP DID show the HTML b. Win2k DID NOT show the HTML -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.20.1 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[4]: PTV bug
Hello Michael, As a new member Acronyms such as PTV and WAD mean nothing to me. So what do those fancy abbreviations mean? I misused PTV, that stands for Plain Text Viewer. I should have used MicroEd. WAD: Work As Designed. The best is that you put the abbreviation into Google, that immediately shows the meaning. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: 4.0.20.0
The Bat! 4.0.20.0 is available at http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_pro_4-0-20.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_home_4-0-20.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/intpack_4-0-20.msi http://www.ritlabs.com/download/files3/the_bat/thebat_rus_4-0-20.msi What's new in 4.0.20.0 since 4.0.18.7: [-] Messages with attached messages could not be stored into Outbox [-] AV in SSCE finalization when dll wasn't found [-] When The Bat! was generating self-signed certificates, the Key Usage extension was not filled properly. I welcome that it does not overwrite the LNG file and the speller dictionary. Same should be done during Voyager install (Please let us have a Custom install during Voyager install). -- Vili The Bat 4.0.20 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PTV bug
Hello Roger, Pressing down arrow does nothing here! KV Because you are using the Windows editor. We are talking about KV MicroEd (check yesterday's mail in the thread). I am *not* using the Windows editor and have never used it. Please see the attached 'Message editor bar.jpg' file. V Hmm... V Anyway, many of us experience the problem, so Ritlabs will fix it. We hope so Vili, but it is difficult when different things happen on different computers! It is better if we can tell them why, or when, the differences occur. It seems that here the down arrow key only malfunctions when the editor has been completely cleared by Ctrl+A. That is enough to point Ritlabs to the right directions, I think. In this reply it is working normally, but will not go below the bottom line of my signature.(I'm not sure whether this WAD) Hmmm... It _always_ go beyond the last line at me using MicroEd. It is the Windows Editor, where it cannot go beyond the last line. (I know, you sent a screenshot showing that you use MicroEd). -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.7 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: PTV bug
V Ok, do this then: V - open a new mail to write V - Ctrl+A, Del (delete everything, body is empty, cursor in the 1:1 V position) V - press e.g. a on the keyboard, there will be a single a char in V the first line V - press the down arrow once Pressing down arrow does nothing here! Because you are using the Windows editor. We are talking about MicroEd (check yesterday's mail in the thread). V At us, the a (first line) disappears. At you? Nothing. Cannot confirm. With WinEd, everything ok. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: default charset
Hello Peter, V My advice would be: please DONT use Unicode. That uses two bytes to V show e.g. a letter a instead of one. Just to clarify this: Unicode != UTF-8! That's an important difference!!! Unicode is a character table that is capable of containing more than the usual 8-bit char tables. UTF-8 is an *ENCODING* of these characters. In short: UTF-8 says which position in the Unicode-table the character is at. UTF-8 uses 8 bit for standard ISO-8859 characters and 16 bit for special characters (like e.g. German umlauts). V The world has chosen it because of laziness. Instead of sending the V charset and then a charcodes, people send a lot of byte 0 nowadays. *ONLY* when using e.g. UTF-16 (or UCS-2) as character *encoding*. So to sum up: albeit Unicode might be used as character set it's not necessarily the case that 2 bytes get transferred, because the *encoding* can make use of (only) 1 byte to _transfer_ the information. Thank you, I did not know this. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: URL manager
Hello Jens, enough for most people, I'd think. Personally, I access the URL manager often, so a toolbar icon makes sense for me. Why do you access it often? Is there any particular and public reason? sarkasm Maybe he is looking for, if they improved the options to handle URL in the meantime... Or if there is a Deny once, Allow Once Option beeing inserted, or if the Download all Images Once Option has been hidden in the URL Manager. /sarkasm Deny once is easy: just close that window. Allow once is harder to do :) But both should be easily implemented. On the other side, I think, TB is the only client that can do this selected download, so let's be patient with them. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.6 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: Got confused about do-not-track list
The * character at the start means that a substring should match snip = - track the exact address + - track the any address containing substring Please correct me if I'm wrong. I guess that * is used to match substring. But what about +? It seems to be a substring match too. And as for the =, I don't understand whether it do track or not track the subsequent address. For example, if I won't track [EMAIL PROTECTED], which string should I write in the list: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Voyager 4.18.0.4 bugs
List of bugs I observe (some of them was mentioned, I just make a list, none of them is a real show stopper): 1. Still writes into the registry: I have a HKCU/RIT/Software/Voyager/SmartBat branch 2a. Overwrites the voyager.lng file. I know, it is ok for general user, but we have our own English/Hungarian LNG file (600 kB instead of 6 MB), and it is overwritten all times. 2b. Puts a lot of spell checker files into the speller subdir and Russian, Polish and another Hunspell dic into the Dictionaries subdir. By my opinion, 2a and 2b should be customizable. It is not because of the unnecessary files, but it generates a long list in the selectable language list. 3. I still have problem with SmartBat. I press F6 in Voyager and no Notepad tabs. In TB, it works fine. It started with v4. See attached images. If I click in the Scheduler tab and back to SmartBat tab, the notepad tabs reappears. I am using SB very often, so it is disturbing. 4. After downloading mails, sometimes it is slow to display a folder (Inbox) with 4000+ messages, size in 300 MB. Not THAT big. It takes ca. 5-6 secs until the message list appears... -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 attachment: VoyagerSmartBat.jpgattachment: BatSmartBat.jpg Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[3]: Got confused about do-not-track list
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks. but could you tell me what happened if I wrote [EMAIL PROTECTED] only? Nothing should happen, I think... -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Zip My The Bat!
http://www.thebat.hu/Download/ZipMyTheBatv1.zip Just download and unzip it into an empty dir. While it is only in English, I make it available, to see if it worth to make it multilingual: ZipMyTheBat. It ZIPs selected directories and the HKCU/Software/RIT reg key into a zip file. In the name of the ZIP file, %Date and %Time macro can be used. Also, if the program is started with the -r switch, it will automatically run using the parameters set. So, it can be used for scheduled backup. After playing around with ZIP components, I gave up, all of them had some flaw (did not work ok, was too slow, or not free :)). So I trigger a standalone ZIP program. So, now ZipMyTheBat works this way: - on the screen you add the directories to add to the ZIP file - you specify the ZIP file (the program saves these settings in the ZipMyBat.ini file and will be loaded next time), %Date and %Time macros can be used. The \, :, etc. characters will be replaced by _ in the filename - you click on the ZIP it! button - ZipMyTheBat exports the HKCU/Software/RIT reg key into C:\TheBat_%DATE_%TIME.reg - after a 5 sec delay it triggers the freeware FreeByte ZIP (I put it into the distrib package) and passes along the directories and the exported .reg file and the name of the ZIP file, so FreeByte ZIP will produce the ZIP file. So, ZipMyTheBat is like a Windows GUI batch editor kind of thing. But I can add it now to my scheduled tasks or click on an icon and I will have a complete backup of my TB. In my case, it is only the C:\Program files\The Bat! dir and the reg. key. I tested, it was able to produce a 2 GB file. I dont know about the 4 GB limit, I guess it cannot handle that. Vili PS: Free of course. If someone need the Delphi 3 source code, project, let me know. Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Zip My The Bat!
Hello Miroslav, http://www.thebat.hu/Download/ZipMyTheBatv1.zip there is already such a tool: TBManager http://tbmanager.pix-art.com/en_index.php Come on guys, I was talking about it for days. Can't you mention it then? :) Anyways... More time for family and no hassle for translation :) Thanks for the link. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re: AV in mail chat window
Hello Peter, go to Tools/Mail Chat and instantly click in the upper text window (below subject). Result: --- The Bat! --- Access violation at address 00BED580 in module 'thebat.exe'. Read of address 0018. --- OK --- Confirmed. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: Got confused about do-not-track list
d I mean the DO-Not-Track list of Address History. sometimes I don't see the wood for the trees. Where do I find this list? Options, Preferences, Address history. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
PTV bug
In plain text (MicroEd) editor, when I write a mail, if I move below the last line, the first line disappear from the screen. In RTV, it works ok. Confirmations? Vili Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
Re[2]: [The Bat! 4.0.18.2] Is this normal?
SPV Today I noticed this little window apparently hiding behind SPV TB's main window. It didn't seem to be bothering anything, SPV but having not seen it before (except once or twice as it SPV appeared and disappeared rapidly). It seems like it should SPV go away on its own, but after several HOURS it had not. I've seen this happen several times. The window will only go away when you exit TB. No. You have to move some messages and leave TB in focus. It will dissapear then. -- Vili The Bat 4.0.18.3 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Szervizcsomag 2 Current beta is 4.0.18.3 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
