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posely jam another’s outgoing email. Once he detected who it was from he would just turn on transmit. This was on a CSMA/CD coaxial network. *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 2:01 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Inte

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, 2023 2:01 PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Internet email isn't anonymous,  never was.  Even in the early days.   There has always been a multitude of ways to track email back to the origin server.  And there has been a multitude of ways to obfuscat

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network. > > *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) > *Sent:* Sunday, March 12, 2023 2:01 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers > > Internet email isn't anonymous, never was. Even in the early days. > There has always been a mult

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ssage - From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2023 6:43:59 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Jan, Most of the links you shared aren't of Google being hacked, but people being scammed/phished. Tricking a user

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tions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Darin Steffl" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 11:57:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers I've never heard of mail.com but I can assure

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PM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Internet email isn't anonymous,  never was.  Even in the early days. There has always been a multitude of ways to track email back to the origin server.  And there has been a multitude of ways to obfuscate but

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morning On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:0

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Proxmox Mail Gateway and Zimbra. Kick your feet up and move on with life. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Chuck McCown via AF" To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: "Chuck McCown" Sent: Wednes

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. From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2023 2:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Internet email isn't anonymous, never was. Even in the early days. There has always been a multitude of ways to track email back to the o

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;>>>>>>>>> bk25-20020a170906b0d900b008af35190ea1mr29983208ejb.57.1678462982507; >>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:43:02 -0800 (PST) >>>>>>>>>>>> ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1678462982; cv=none; >

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3208ejb.57.1678462982507; >>>>>>>>>>>> Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:43:02 -0800 (PST) >>>>>>>>>>>> ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1678462982; cv=none; >>>>>>>>>>>> d=google.com; s=arc-2

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Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Friday, March

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spf=pass (google.com: domain of j.vank...@grnacres.net >>>>>>>>> designates 64.68.200.34 as permitted sender) >>>>>>>>> smtp.mailfrom=j.vank...@grnacres.net >>>>>>>>> Return-Path: >>>>>>

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>>>>>>> (Postfix) with ESMTP id 738E268D1A for ; >>>>>>> Fri, 10 Mar 2023 15:43:01 + (UTC) >>>>>>> X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at emo09-pco.easydns.vpn >>>>>>> Received: from mailout.easymail.ca ([127.

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0.187]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 >>>>>> (128/128 bits) >>>>>> key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest >>>>>> SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mailout.easymail.ca >>>>>&g

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t;>>> Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 07:42:59 -0800 >>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0 >>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 >>>>> Thunderbird/102.8.0 >>>>> To: thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>>> Content-Lang

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*From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers  All mail.com <http://mail.com> us

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; free-gmail type accounts one gets by logging into google. The emails were >>>> sent from mail.com and from my own business accounts. The business >>>> ones went through and the mail.com ones bounced except for the one >>>> sent to you. I picked 4 gmail a

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100101 >>>> Thunderbird/102.8.0 >>>> To: thatoneguyst...@gmail.com >>>> Content-Language: en-US >>>> From: Jan-GAMs >>>> Subject: hellody >>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed >>>> Conten

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> nope, this gmail account is standard free account. >>>> Im probably special cause all my communications get routed through the >>>> FBI servers for my online antics >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:33 PM Jan-GAMs >&g

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;> I don't see any advantage to hosting local email on your own server. >>>>>> It's not worth your time. My time is worth $550/hr roughly when looking >>>>>> at >>>>>> net profit so spending even one hour a year trying to manage or fix my

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gmail has noticed *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers  All mail.com <http://

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te: >>> >>>> nope, this gmail account is standard free account. >>>> Im probably special cause all my communications get routed through the >>>> FBI servers for my online antics >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 12:3

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ail is a paid-for account, the others that bounced were the >>>> free-gmail type accounts one gets by logging into google. The emails were >>>> sent from mail.com and from my own business accounts. The business >>>> ones went through and the mail.com ones bounced exc

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: >>> >>>> i got your spam emails this morning >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: >>>> >>>>> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>

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t;> practices for outgoing emails. >> >> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:33 AM Steve Jones >> wrote: >> >>> i got your spam emails this morning >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: >>> >>>> Appare

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On 3/10/23 10:55 AM, Steve Jones wrote: grnacres.net doesnt have dkim nor a dmarc record. Thats bad domain deliverability practice, nothing to do with the mailhost perse, but if mail.com doesnt support dkim, its a trash mail host like sherweb. Cant blame

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On 3/10/23 09:14, Steve Jones wrote: i got your spam emails this morning On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Friday,

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s this morning On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail serv

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n Fri, Mar 10, 2023, 11:33 AM Steve Jones > wrote: > >> i got your spam emails this morning >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: >> >>> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF *On

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nced except yours. What makes you so special? >>> On 3/10/23 09:14, Steve Jones wrote: >>> >>> i got your spam emails this morning >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: >>> >>>> Apparently nobody on gmail has

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y on gmail has noticed >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs >>> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >>> >>> >>> >>> A

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this morning > > > On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: > >> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs >> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFM

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On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers  All mail.com <http:

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wrote: >> >>> Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs >>> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >>&

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, Steve Jones wrote: i got your spam emails this morning On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers

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om:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs >> *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM >> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >> >> >> >> All mail.com users cannot send you email. How many other's are blocked >> as well? Oblivion

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i got your spam emails this morning On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 11:04 AM wrote: > Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Jan-GAMs > *Sent:* Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers >

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Apparently nobody on gmail has noticed From: AF On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs Sent: Friday, March 10, 2023 10:32 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers All mail.com users cannot send you email. How many other's are blocked as well? Oblivion, must be sweet. On 3/9/23

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ample, our scanner stopped being able to send emails due to something gmail did. *From:* Steve Jones *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers How much is your

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o get rebooted, usually about the same time each day. >>> >>> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we >>> stopped using them some time ago. For example, our scanner stopped being >>> able to send emails due to something gmail

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ime each day. >> >> Google got difficult, especially for email chains and other things so we >> stopped using them some time ago. For example, our scanner stopped being >> able to send emails due to something gmail did. >> >> >> *From:* Steve Jones >>

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r email chains and other things so we > stopped using them some time ago. For example, our scanner stopped being > able to send emails due to something gmail did. > > > *From:* Steve Jones > *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 11:24 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *

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ave Users Group *Cc:* Chuck McCown *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for employees and other business email addresses.  It is free that way and we don’t have to worry about anything else.  But for some reason the server han

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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2023 2:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers I prefer to have it in house for the 10-20 email addresses it serves for employees and other business email addresses. It is free that way and we don’t have to worry

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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers How much is your time worth. The free internal server is costing you this. We are still using rackspace for subscriber mail and our office emails since its same domain and a pita to set up split routing for the mail. The cost of our mail is covered by the folks who

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> > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney via AF > *Sent:* Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Steven Kenney > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mail servers > > > > Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi!

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It is only for our own company email. No customers on it. From: Tyson Burris Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 7:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Surgemail is exactly what I used. Seemed to be a good product. Tyson Burris, President Internet

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https://youtu.be/RUaYbfKZIiA On Thu, Mar 9, 2023, 5:17 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had thousandth > of accounts on it, but now just a handful. > > Not free. And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective > for hosting anymo

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unauthorized organizations or individuals is strictly prohibited. From: AF On Behalf Of Steven Kenney via AF Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2023 8:37 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Steven Kenney Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mail servers Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not

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We also Run Icewarp since at least 2001 when I started. It just works. But not cheap. The Per user licensing sucks now. It's now geared as an Exchange competitor for enterprise, not simple POP/IMAP server like when we started. We were on an unlimited users/domains license forever, they put

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Surgemail you could run 1000 customers on a raspberry pi! Not free though. Extremely granular configuration options. On Thu, Mar 9, 2023 at 7:16 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had thousandth > of accounts on it, but now just a handful. > > Not

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We used Icewarp since 2004 without issues. At its peak we had thousandth of accounts on it, but now just a handful. Not free. And they went to per user licensing so it’s not cost effective for hosting anymore, but it’s reasonable for internal email. Get Outlook for iOS