Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

Maybe it's a non-issue, but it seems like active layout is the way to go. You wind up with a fiber or two to each house and you can still hook it up in a pon configuration, but have the option to upgrade in the future. If I wanted to, I could easily do 10gbps symmetric every house right now. On W

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

Agreed. Home run the fiber, use the PON splitters at the head end if you so choose. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] bonding ground at grain leg

I would go with your first plan of bonding your cabinet to the electrical ground / steel conduit versus adding a grounding rod. I think you are going to be better off not having a secondary ground path. Mark > On Jun 24, 2015, at 5:53 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm > wrote: > > We have a new p

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

And who would pay you for that? I agree a fiber to every user from the feed is ideal. PON is progressing at the pace that I see nobody, at least in our area, that will need more than what PON can affordably provide now. By the time we need 10G out here, the big guys would have brought the price poi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

https://www.google.com/search?q=cute+ukrainian+women&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=gP2LVdyIOYvLsAXX2ICoCw&ved=0CDUQsAQ I agree On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 5:34 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > But the Ukrainian kid is sooo cute! > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm > *Sent:* W

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

Yeah, but they steal you blind and split with their boyfriend once they get their green card From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing https://www.google.com/search?q=cute+ukrainian+women&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=667&tb

[AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Dear Cambium, Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to? It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc. Can you either keep

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xcanopy+power+supply.TRS0&_nkw=canopy+power+supply&_sacat=0 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > De

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution. Come on cambium listen to your long time loyal customers! -Sean On Thursday, June

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

blacbox On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of > $24 is someone trying to make a buck on them before they are gone. Also > eventually eBay will run out too so that's not a long term solution. > > Come on ca

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

When I think of "guerilla marketing" I think of clever product placement that gets people thinking about a product without looking like advertising. One thing I've heard of is joining an online community where you know the target market hangs out. You either use two accounts or you do it with

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I honestly hate the epmp poe and the old ones are so easy a cave man can do it On Jun 25, 2015 10:45 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > blacbox > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > >> Thanks for the link josh. They normally cost ~$10 so the eBay price of >> $24 is someo

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

> Dear Cambium, > > Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to? > > It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures AND > our tech support procedures. The new POE is also very cumbersome and prone > to clients plugging things in backwards etc. > > Can y

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Matt wrote: > > Dear Cambium, > > > > Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still

Re: [AFMUG] zimbra question

Zextras for the whole suite is $9.10 per user per YEAR vs $18 per year for that. I think that's being a partner though right? If you actually just want to buy the commercial product its in the thousands. Unless they changed it. If I recall I think the network ed mainly just came with suppor

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

Yeah, I am too lazy for that kind of effort... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:46 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing When I think of "guerilla marketing" I think of clever product placement that gets people thinking about a product without looking

[AFMUG] redline Wimax Cpe

looking for old Redline Cpe´s. 100 or 200 units thx

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

Ive noticed that guys products have been mentioned here before, have we been being guerrilla marketed this whole time? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:09 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yeah, I am too lazy for that kind of effort... > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:46 AM > *

Re: [AFMUG] zimbra question

This is the service provider edition, yes. It is not the enterprise version. Elsewhere in the thread I linked the document that describes the program. Not that any edition of ZCS replaces ZExtras, but it does enable different things. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions ht

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

If you can really get $24 for them on eBay, I need to look for any NIB ones I have laying around. That’s more than I can get for PMP100 SMs. Who would have thought the POEs would be worth more than the radios. From: joseph marsh Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:53 AM To: af@afmug.com Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Is Cambium moving to an 802.3af future? At some point I'd love to see that. Thought I read the 450i or d was doing that. At least then we could source our own parts if we wanted to. I can't recall exactly, but I'm pretty sure a camera I installed in the last year or two had a very similar desig

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

I thought you would pay the marketing department to do this while you hang out on the yacht. On 6/25/2015 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I am too lazy for that kind of effort... *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:46 AM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I resent the assertion that my customers are stupider than a cave man. I know, sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the rock. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRRlEyplGQ8 From: Steve D Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:23 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ Is C

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I imagine they want to move to gigE-capable PSUs and since the old design with the connection in the pigtail won't support that, it's time for a change. The training difference is minor if you already have the .AF PMP320 PSUs. On Jun 25, 2015 10:24 AM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > Dear Cambium, > > Wh

Re: [AFMUG] Data center bandwidth

One of the things I always use as an analogy for bandwidth are cars. Will a $500 junker car work for you? If so then it’s going to be what you need. Is the ride in that car always smooth? Could be or might not be. Depends on where you are going. Some roads are better than others. Now, do you

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

And yet, we have a contingent of subscribers that manage to do it "the wrong way" with multiple variations. bp On 6/25/2015 9:23 AM, Steve D wrote: However, the comment "so easy a caveman could do it" is so absolutely true - you really had to go out of your way to plug it in wrong.

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

My epmp poe writing on which port is what is dark like the markings have faded On Jun 25, 2015 11:43 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > And yet, we have a contingent of subscribers that manage to do it "the > wrong way" with multiple variations. > > bp > > > On 6/25/2015 9:23 AM, Steve D wrote: > >> How

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

What SM can do more than 100mbps in one direction That's fine if they want to sell the new POEs with whatever new product is coming out but at least let us buy the old ones if we want to. Completely removing them from the market is really frustrating. We never drank the 320 koolaid. Even th

[AFMUG] Mikrotik bandwidth monitor with The Dude?

I am looking to monitor daily and monthly bandwidth on our MT's-hopefully through the Dude. I have already set up SNMP successfully on a couple of sites but I'm not seeing anything in the polling section of the Dude to monitor daily/monthly bandwidth usage. I do not need it on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

I thought that hypothetical conversation looked awfully familiar... except that I think I was one of the participants, and I'm pretty sure I'm not Chuck. :P On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:11 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > Ive noticed that guys products have been menti

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Wellthe Telrad PoE for the 7000SU is similar to Canopy, with a built in pigtail that plugs into the customer router/PC...albeit slightly longer. Every previous generation of Telrad/Alvarion had a midspan POE. On 6/25/2015 12:59 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: What SM can do more than 100mbps in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

That “was” the plan... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 10:26 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing I thought you would pay the marketing department to do this while you hang out on the yacht. On 6/25/2015 12:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: Yeah, I am

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

But now the marketing department gets the yacht? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:14 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing That “was” the plan... From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursda

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing

You know sales guys... From: James Howard Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 11:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guerilla Marketing But now the marketing department gets the yacht? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:14

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

> RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out? http://routerboard.com/RBmAP2n has POE out. Unfortunately we have found that with a 50 foot cat5 run and surge arrestor many times it will not power the SM. With a vary short cat5 run it will though. A POE crossover is re

Re: [AFMUG] Data center bandwidth

I like that analogy and agree for the most part …. Often when providers are shopping for bandwidth, the first question is price. I am not saying it’s not an important factor but suggesting that folks take other considerations into account such as what you have outlined. For me, latency a

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Did you have a big enough power supply to the map2n? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Matt wrote: > > RouterOS supports IPv6. Wouldn't it be sweet if the map2n had POE out? > > http://routerboard.co

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Check out the details at http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732 Ray Join the Conversation Cambium Networks Community Forum From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Hesket

Re: [AFMUG] zimbra question

You check out their community / social version? I guess its just a version of their Telligent stuff. But having its own social networking built into zimbra would be really cool A private social network already inside zimbra would be helpful. - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett"

Re: [AFMUG] zimbra question

I haven't looked at it other than using it some on their site as I believe they switched their forum to use that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Steve"

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Why do ePMP radios include the PoE, but with Canopy they have to be bought separate? I never use the included power supplies on towers, so I would personally prefer to be able to buy ePMP radios without the PoE (assuming there was an appropriate price drop), at least for the synced radios. On Thu,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Ray can you please come and hang out with one of my clients for a day and hand them each POE and see which one they can hook up and which one they can't?? Just because you have made this decision doesn't mean it's a good decision and we are asking cambium to reconsider. The new POE sucks! Period

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Sean, what is the major complaint? Is it that the installer or customer gets confused which port goes where? You could put stickers on things to avoid that. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Cc: memb...@wispa.

Re: [AFMUG] Indoor GPON - Why?

No one right now, never know what you'll need in the future though. On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Lewis Bergman wrote: > And who would pay you for that? I agree a fiber to every user from the > feed is ideal. PON is progressing at the pace that I see nobody, at least > in our area, that will need

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I think a big part of the issue with customers plugging things in wrong is labelling. "Data" and "Data+Power" means nothing to the typical caveman customer. We've been putting stickers on UBNT power supplies for years labelling the ports "Antenna" and "PC/Router" and we rarely get customers pluggin

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Are you serious? There was a bright red sticker on Pac/Tycon POEs and people still screwed it up. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Paul McCall wrote: > Sean, what is the major complaint? Is it tha

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Now this is a good idea. The label on the old power supplies was Radio and Computer I believe. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I think a big part of the issue with customers

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Absotutely. I actually had a subscriber argue with me about the "correct" connection required for a Tycon POE (which I consider fairly straightforward and easy to understand). Yet he insisted that it be connected the opposite way. Where upon, I had to reverse the connection, show him that it w

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

If you fool proof something, all you're doing is making a better fool. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > Absotutely. I actually had a subscriber argue with me about the "correct"

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Could you do something with white and black colored ethernet cabling and label the corresponding ports white and black? IE: black goes outside, white goes to the router/pc? Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net On 6/25/2015 3:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote: Absotutely. I actually h

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Our solution for now is we purchased a year and a half supply of them. :-P On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich wrote: > Check out the details at > http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732 > > Ray > > > > Join the Conversation > > Cambium Networks Com

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Pretty much the same here - we bought out what we could find. I don’t like the extra cost of the power cord and the additional Ethernet cable. More connections is just more places to screw it up. In addition we now have several thousand of the old style mixed in with the new style. Makes su

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

“It is impossible to make anything foolproof, because fools are so ingenious.” - corollary to Murphy’s Law From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:19 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ If you fool proof something, all you're doing is making a better

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

In addition to the useability factors the old Poe was $8 the new one is $20 + a cable $4 so 3x the cost per install now :-/ I fail to see why cambium can't allow us to buy which ever one we want. On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Ray Savich wrote: > Check out the details at > http://community.camb

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE: http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/c3voip200 From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Cc: memb...@wispa.org Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ Our solution for now is we pu

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Damn Ken… you beat me to it!! I was going to say that. Matt From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

so then instead of an $8 point of failure (when lightning strikes) we now have a $80 point of failure...how is that better??? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > I keep waiting for Ray to say if you buy this you don’t need the POE: > http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/c3v

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I don’t believe the old POE had any surge protection, didn’t lighting take out the router anyway? From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 4:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ so then instead of an $8 point of failure (when lightning strikes) we now

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Hi Ray, Thanks for listening. So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the cables that are attached to the POE. either a tech friend will be over to "help" them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason. it

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Matt, Few of us like the old power supply, can you put us in touch with your source so we can continue to buy that power supply? Tushar > On Jun 25, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Matt Mangriotis > wrote: > > Damn Ken… you beat me to it!! I was going to say that. > > Matt > > From: Af [mailto:af-bo

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray... Q: Why is this change happening? A: The current Power Supply line is being retired. Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and fill out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these silly questions. Q:

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Lol!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 6:37 PM, "Steve D" wrote: > I love the first Q&A response in the FAQ Ray... > > Q: Why is this change happening? > > A: The current Power Supply line is being retired. > > > Give

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti POEs? Maybe because they come with the radio so you might as well use them? Plus they have cool white LEDs? Plus now a wallmount bracket (but that has to be ordered separately unless you get an AF5X). One thing you could do

[AFMUG] items for sale

I have these for sell NBE-M5AC500 2 pcs set x 2 $ 135 each plus shipping R5AC-Lite(US) x 2 $ 125 each plus shipping sxtg-5hpacd x 3 $ 100 each plus shipping These are all brand new.

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 6:52 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > Why doesn’t anyone seem to have the same complaint about the Ubiquiti > POEs? > > Maybe because they come w

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

No, silly, for UBNT radios. What I’m asking is since it’s similar to the new Cambium one, why don’t UBNT based WISPs complain about the POE? Because it’s free with the radio and why look a gift horse in the mouth? Because it’s all they’ve every known so they don’t miss it? Because they have

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Because they're not spoiled with something they never had :P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 7:13 PM, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: > No, silly, for UBNT radios. What I’m asking is since it’s similar to > the new Cambium one

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE: -less outlet space needed -gigabit option (current 450 SMs can reach 75mbit down so it's likely next generation will hit 100+) -can choose whatever cable length is needed to go to PC/router. -won't have the broken RJ tab / wires pulling out of the RJ due t

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Which is great...for you. Why can't I have a choice? Why are they taking it away if there is still demand? Why won't they let us go straight to whatever manufacturer they get them from?? On Thursday, June 25, 2015, Colin Stanners wrote: > I'm one of those that prefer the new PoE: > > -less

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and didn't see a big reason people would want the old-style PSUs. I thought CTI had gotten some PSUs straight from the manufacturer years ago when there was a

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

That will be really funny if CTI sources them and moto looses out on a bunch of sales, lol On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 5:03 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > With the speed keys and regional variants they have a large amount of > product stock already, I imagine they're not trying to keep old items and >

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be Motorola not Cambium. If Cambium was worried about losing a bunch of sales, they wouldn’t be dropping the product. My guess is it’s a minimum order thing. They probably have to order X thousands at a time and the last order to

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping / freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep them up at night. -Original Message- From: TJ Trout Sender: "Af" Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:12:22 To: Reply-To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be very sad puppies. just sayin On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, wrote: > How much do you think they make per Canopy PSU after the stockkeeping / > freight /organizational work? $3 ? I'm sure losing those sales won't keep

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

This is sounding like Jack Nicholson trying to get his whole wheat toast in Five Easy Pieces. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 7:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would be v

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

i'm just saying that the financial decision for carrying the old and new poe goes deeper than how much they may or may not be making on the poe. cambium after all is in the business of selling light bulbs (SMs) and if you need a special socket to use their light bulb it might behoove them to conti

[AFMUG] Gigabit Fiber - Canadian Development

Just on the tail end of some Gig Fiber discussions over the past few days.. here's an announcement made this morning in my backyard: http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1561929/bell-gigabit-fibe-bringing-the-faste st-internet-to-toronto-residents-with-a-billion-dollar-network-investment-cr eation-o

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P It makes it much easier to replace customer's radios if we don't have to deal with getting into their house. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Who would use a Ubnt POE for Cambium radios? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

So what does Telrad's POE look like? Is it the same unshielded pigtail style? On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: > but if i decide to completely move all new installs to telrad they would > be very sad puppies. > > just sayin > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 6:26 PM, wrote: > >> H

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Back when I primary CPE were Bullet2's, before UBNT was making the current style of PoE, we used to make our own... similar style to the old Canopy PoE with a pigtail instead of two ports. I was really worried we'd have a ton of issues with customers plugging stuff in wrong when we switched to the

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

What pigtails are you using on the roof? Or are you crimping the end wrong? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 9:13 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Me! I use UBNT PoE's on Cambium radios all the time :P > > It makes it much

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Crimping the end wrong. On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:22 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > What pigtails are you using on the roof? Or are you crimping the end wrong? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > On Jun 25, 2015 9:13 PM, "Math

[AFMUG] Telrad max range?

Anyone know the max range of telrad? i.e. ack range or useful range? Can 30-45 miles be achieved?

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad max range?

Ask on the Telrad list? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 25, 2015 9:32 PM, "TJ Trout" wrote: > Anyone know the max range of telrad? i.e. ack range or useful range? Can > 30-45 miles be achieved? > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I was using phihong power supplies 20+ years ago. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:20 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/ The one I have sitting here says Phihong but it’s old enough to be Motorola not Cambium. If Cambium was worried about los

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad max range?

37km or 22miles On Thursday, June 25, 2015, TJ Trout wrote: > Anyone know the max range of telrad? i.e. ack range or useful range? Can > 30-45 miles be achieved? > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

Very nice!!! Making the big bucks! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > The mounts are designed nicely but manufacturing sucks. The bolts cross > thread or seize immediately. Had

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

I Just came across this again today, seems to fit the conversation. SRC: https://xkcd.com/1172/ Workflow On 6/25/2015 9:10 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: I was using phihong power supplies 20+ years ago. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Thursday, June 25, 2015 6:20 PM *To:* af@afmu

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

>From your mouth to God's ears. These are back hauls and Ubiquiti 365 to feed barracks. Ruckus APs and Cisco switches inside. On Jun 25, 2015 9:28 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Very nice!!! Making the big bucks! > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Sui

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

Have you considered Siklu’s instead for this form factor and speed? 1 Gbps full duplex but much cheaper.. -PK From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 8:25 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz The mounts are designe

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Fiber - Canadian Development

A billion dollars for 2400 jobs. I guess Canadians can't multiply or divide. On Jun 25, 2015 8:14 PM, "Paul Stewart" wrote: > Just on the tail end of some Gig Fiber discussions over the past few > days…… here’s an announcement made this morning in my backyard: > > > > > http://www.newswire.ca/en/

Re: [AFMUG] Gigabit Fiber - Canadian Development

420k a year...not bad to lay some fiber... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > A billion dollars for 2400 jobs. I guess Canadians can't multiply or > divide. > On Jun 25, 2015 8:

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

We had the same internal discussion. Customers are stupid. Things can only go one way with the Canopy PoE. However, we've had a lot less SMs lost to surges since we switched to the Laird POE-24iR's. Honestly, it wasn't a hard transition. The techs are able to walk customers through making sure

Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave 60GHz

I didn't spec a thing. I am working for a WISP hired by fiber and cabling company hired by Boingothey have Siklus as well installed by some other crew On Jun 25, 2015 9:39 PM, "Peter Kranz" wrote: > Have you considered Siklu’s instead for this form factor and speed? 1 Gbps > full duplex

[AFMUG] website in a box

so whats the easiest thing to do. Not looking to spend any dough of substance, maybe worth 50 bucks a year I want to make a cheap website, pretty flat, a page describing the company and services offered, a link to remote support, even team viewer, a contact us page, maybe some product and a way to

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

Do what every web developer does, install WordPress and plugins? On 6/25/2015 11:18 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: so whats the easiest thing to do. Not looking to spend any dough of substance, maybe worth 50 bucks a year I want to make a cheap website, pretty flat, a page describing the co

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

Hardware? Pi. Software? Probably just basic HTML. But it would help to have more details on what you want. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 26, 2015 12:21 AM, "George Skorup" wrote: > Do what every web developer does, install

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

+1 Wordpress template On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Hardware? Pi. > > Software? Probably just basic HTML. But it would help to have more details > on what you want. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45

Re: [AFMUG] website in a box

My brother made my site. He doesn't charge much and does a pretty good job. He did it really fast too. Had it live in 1 day after ordering. I only paid $200. I'm sure he'd use it as a template for you and just alter it to what you need for the same price. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 25, 2015,

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

Cambium couldn't use standard poe because when they started development - around 2000? - such a thing didn't exist, the AF standard came out in 2003. Also if they had used 48v the POE injectors would cost about 3x as much. On Jun 25, 2015 8:04 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > i'm just saying that the

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