Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

I really don't get this. Applying a patch to a working OS isn't the same as adding oil to a running engine. You probably shouldn't do that either. So what's the big deal with a restart? On my Mac it's probably a good thing, since I haven't restarted in a week or more. Jeff M On Aug 8, 20

Re: [CGUYS] jason calacanis essay on apple

No. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 5:32 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > > > Do you think Apple's management isn't trying to find a way out of this > crazy corner that their legal department has backed them into? > > > > * ** List info, s

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

I'm sorry I misunderstood. So you have an older dial-up connection that's charged by the minute? Yes, that was the heyday of mailing lists. They were actually designed around that type of scenario. But since most everyone has unmetered connections, or always-on broadband these days, that reasoning

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

The discussion lists I see, are all on line or the cloud. To follow it you need to be on line! With an email list, you download you email read the relevant posts, respond send and that is it. I prefer email. Does not tie me up to open the browser see what has transpired, and then respond.

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

Huh? This is so far out of left field I just have to ask what you can possibly mean by it??? Why would anyone - admin, moderator, or member, need to be online all the time? And how could anyone without web access still use a mailing list? On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wr

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

Depends on what you are doing. Some folks still prefer an email list. Others want an online discussion list. I have seen both. To do the discussion you must have web access and you must be online all the time. To do an email list it is much simpler for many folks who do not have the time t

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

These days you do not want a mailing list; you want a web forum. Mailing lists are yesterday's news. 2009/8/8 Jordan : > I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of > this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved > with. I've started

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Being a free-market Capitalist You owe me a new monitor. This one has a spit-take all over it. > I would have to insist that it is a > management responsibility to navigate through such rough waters. And they do, but not as the status quo. Hard choices are made quite often, to ensure the per

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

Happening to the tune of about 30+ per week closing doors, or hiring off the grid. Stewart At 09:34 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: Being a free-market Capitalist I would have to insist that it is a management responsibility to navigate through such rough waters. If times have changed and the need be

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

Yes and no. It always depends on what you are looking for. There are things the megachurches can do that I cannot. I do not compete with them on those criteria. Many of the folks looking want that criteria and they go there. We offer some different things that megchurches cannot offer. So

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:39 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Non-profits can have funding issues for all sorts of reasons aside from management. Changes in city or state administrations can change funding priorities. Economic upheavals can drastically reduce giving or endowments with little warning. B

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:10 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Churches cannot be run like businesses. They are churches whole different ball game. By the way the management of any church is the parishioners! I wholeheartedly agree with you. But those of us who believe in the free market also bel

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

In many cases when a supporter dies the non-profit gets zilch. Families have a tendency to look out for families. I have had a few that before they got sick took the unprecedented step of setting up trusts/endowments to look after non-profit or the aims of the non-profit. It is not common an

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Yes, bad management tends to be a problem. Ya think? Is this your flow chart? Bad management? > Yes | | V Yes Non-profits can have funding issues for all sorts of reasons aside from management. Changes in city or state administrations can change funding p

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

Tom 80% of the population go to megachurches. However 80% of our churches are smaller single staff churches. The only paid staff is me and I am there whenever they want me and do a lot of work at home also. Churches cannot be run like businesses. They are churches whole different ball game.

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

Quoting TPiwowar : On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote: That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, I suggest moving your lips as you read or maybe reading aloud. I wrote "That's not Apple any

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:08 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Tom many non-profits have very slim line budgets a few people on their staff and many many volunteer workers. Yes, bad management tends to be a problem. I recently watched a once prosperous church go through a change in management. New

Re: [CGUYS] jason calacanis essay on apple

On Aug 8, 2009, at 7:33 PM, mike wrote: That is a link to his listerv, you would have to subscribe to read the post, you could unsub after if you like however his posts are few and far so it's not a big deal. I'd post the article here but he requests that any repost be given permission fir

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Agreed yahoogroups. Look at both. They offer different services. Let you needs determine your choice. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, ar

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

Agreed yahoogroups. Stewart At 06:40 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: yahoo On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jordan wrote: > I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of > this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved > with. I've started lo

Re: [CGUYS] Billable hours software?

Anyone have recommendations for a "billable hours" tracking software that is cross platform, can export to spreadsheet and can also be used with various PDA / Smartphone platforms? db * ** List info, subscription manage

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

OK I know I asked for you to respond but you are being a plain old mass about it. Tom many non-profits have very slim line budgets a few people on their staff and many many volunteer workers. We don't get the cheapest but we cannot afford the most expensive. So unless you are paying the bill

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> There are two ways to handle budget problems. Therein lies your problem: a total and complete lack of vision. The real world isn't binary. > I'll leave it to our sad sack WFBs to struggle with doing less with > less. We do just fine, since we don't have to pay the Apple tax. **

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:31 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Obviously you have never had to live within budgets. Very often many of us are being asked to do more with LESS There are two ways to handle budget problems. One is to cut back, fire highest-paid staff, run with the cheapest hardware,

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

b_s-wilk wrote: The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering your phone or using a wired headset. Most [none?] of those phones aren't being sold any more. I'

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

yahoo On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Jordan wrote: > I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of > this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved > with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and they are > volumino

[CGUYS] jason calacanis essay on apple

An interesting essay on what apple was, is and becoming. One theme being that apple has become even more the anti competitive villain then MS ever was. His example being that at it's worst, you could always install another browser on windows, but with the iphone, apple forbids the use of any brow

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:52 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: It's that many 3G GSM phones can be used for a data plan that costs much less than most other plans per month. I'm not touting that phone or the provider. Any provider with that rate will be fine. The iPhone is GSM, isn't it? Has anybody tried th

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: I gathered that but was wondering why you sent us to that site? :-) Stewart Because, The cell phone companies are always pitching phones with supposedly great features. Yet, They never mention the SAR(Specific Absorption Rate) of the phone. If it is rated above

Re: [CGUYS] LISTSERV

On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Jordan wrote: I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and they are voluminous. The LISTSE

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:19 PM, mike wrote: My point being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune interface is an abortion. Except that Tom did not say that. Otherwise you are fine. * ** List info, subscrip

[CGUYS] LISTSERV

I don't know if this is just for Tom or if others have an understanding of this but: I'm considering starting List for a local food group I'm involved with. I've started looking at some manuals from L-Soft and AOL, and they are voluminous. The LISTSERV list owners guide looks like it will tell

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> It is interesting that in your mind "interface is at worst just fine" > translates into "matches iPod touch". To me though, it says that > the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, > which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right > that I should've let

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> It is interesting that in your mind "interface is at worst just fine" > translates into "matches iPod touch". To me though, it says that > the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, > which matches the impressions I've gathered Actually, most of the reviews I've read r

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:22 AM, TPiwowar wrote: I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry bloggers and writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic stories for you to quote. Proving nothing. Quoting mike : It's nice to know you've already decided to not bel

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

I wasn't giving a review of the unit when I said that. My point was that the worst that could be said about it is, that it's just fine. My point being that only Tom in his hatred of MS could say the zune interface is an abortion. Anyone with an open mind and common sense could see the interface

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> Reviewers are already commenting that "HD" is false advertising. To > display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also > sold separately). So typically M$ to launch a new product with a lie. Sort of like an HD video player. I've heard you need a TV for those too. Still no list

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

It is interesting that in your mind "interface is at worst just fine" translates into "matches iPod touch". To me though, it says that the interface is manageable with a connotation that it is not great, which matches the impressions I've gathered. But you are right that I should've let Mike spe

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

So what was the consensus... a viable strategy or currently irrelevant? db b_s-wilk wrote: The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering your phone or using a

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> Reviewers are already commenting that "HD" is false advertising. To > display HD it requires a dock (sold separately) and an HD TV (also > sold separately). There's an app for that. * ** List info, subscription managemen

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

Want to talk about lairs? Went to my cable providers website this week. Saw an ad advertising 10mps cable Internet service for 39.95. I called up their chat feature to see about getting this service for 39.95 and was told I could not have it at that price it would cost me 54.95 a month. Tha

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

All those damn HDTV vendors! LIARS! They sell their so called HDTV's with NO content and NO way to play HD unless you freakin BUY a blu ray player or purchase sat/cable HD. What liars! On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 1:11 PM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > >> The

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 3:40 PM, Jeff Wright wrote: Name one instance where MS was "first" with something. I'll wait. Does it have to be legal? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** **

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

It's easy...yer a birther..a pinhead, a neocon drone. You lack any skills of perception, you listen to rush, to hannity and oreilly. You aren't worth commenting on, the question itself lacks merit because YOU do. Nevermind he can't back up a thing he says and that's why the name calling starts.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: The basic theme that I got from it was, "At the very worst it matches iPod Touch, which you like, so what's your real beef?" When did Apple introduce the iPod Touch that you are comparing the as yet unreleased Zune HD to? Reviewers are alrea

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

What about per minute charges? I do not understand how you can get the data link without connecting via minutes. Something is off on that. Stewart At 02:52 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: You don't have to use that phone to get that rate, and you don't have to tether, but the phone needs to be un

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

The website I was referring to is this: What is an SAR rating That site is ancient history, and mostly irrelevant if you're tethering your phone or using a wired headset. Most [none?] of those phones aren't being sold any more. I'd love to have a c

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead > of going around in circles like this, or let it drop. I made a point. I asked for his reasons why Zune HD is "vastly inferior". Three times. A pretty reasonable request, I thought. He responds, "Birther". WTF? **

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I'm not getting it. The N3555 is a very uninteresting phone. Is the idea that I have to carry a laptop with me all the time to get the benefits of the data connection. Can I tether it to a smart phone that will make use of t

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

> These views were from the hardcore of the > gadget world, not pc mag or such mainstream review sites. Oops. I'm sure you meant "M$ lackeys", not "PC Mag". * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, pri

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> An you have the temerity to accuse me of having a reality distortion > field? Your beloved M$ is moving in a clockwise direction in the > Southern Hemisphere, and in a counterclockwise direction in the > Northern Hemisphere. Yes, I do, and it's at full power right now. Name one instance where M

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

Your fiance looks nice. :-) Stewart At 02:20 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-) Stewart That was a personal link in my original reply. I never intended to send that link because, that is my fiance. Thankfully Yahoo will be giving

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

I gathered that but was wondering why you sent us to that site? :-) Stewart At 02:15 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I sup

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

This sounds too much like the children's argument, "I know you are, but what am I?". Rather than waiting for the "No you are" from Tom, and a "No YOU are" back from you, I beg you: Please, one of you make an actual point instead of going around in circles like this, or let it drop. Of course, t

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi,

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-) Stewart That was a personal link in my original reply. I never intended to send that link because, that is my fiance. Thankfully Yahoo will be giving Geocities the ax. Christopher ***

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:53 PM, b_s-wilk wrote: Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I'm not getting it. The N3555 is a very uninteresting phone. Is the idea that I have to carry a laptop with me all the time to get the benefits of the data connection. Can I

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

OK that voyeuristic link was for? :-) Stewart At 01:48 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with an

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

Gimme a day or two..I'm not trying to avoid it, I've just looked at probably 50 youtube video reviews of iphone/pre/htc touch/htc diamond and a few others along with reading about 50 blogs and review sites from the little known to engadget about all the previously listed phones. All I meant to imp

Re: [CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

b_s-wilk wrote: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi,

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> But consider the case Mike made for the Zune, a few posts back. > If it was cited in an advertisement, it would read something like: > "Mike says: 'superior processor' . 'interface is at worst just fine'. > 'what is there to complain about except lateness issue?' " (Exact > quotes, and I tried to

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

You dummy that is attached to the big ol CB antenna mounted to the bed of the PU. Or as a decal on the back window. Stewart At 01:30 PM 8/8/2009, you wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back window of yo

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

Any examples would be appreciated. Google didn't really help me. I suppose I should try Bing, in light of recent stories that it is slanting its searches to be anti-Apple, but I'd like to know some examples of what it is that you are reading. On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:58 PM, COMPUTERGUYS-L automati

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

On Aug 8, 2009, at 4:08 AM, Eric S. Sande wrote: The gun discussion is not repeat NOT something that we need to bring up on this list. It is totally off topic unless we agree that it has relevance, which it does not. Deal. This OT topic is dead.

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back window of your pick up truck along with a fishing rod or two. But then where do I hang the Stars and Bars? *

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

Jeff Wright wrote: Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field. Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational discussion to others. You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do. I an truly blessed! But then, you shoot your mou

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

Yes, but Apple wasn't first in either the music player or smart phone markets. Both markets were considered to be fairly stable and buttoned down until Apple came along and churned them up again. Remember this review of the first iPod: "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."? Of course it

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

TPiwowar wrote: On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote: That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of phones. I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms without really wanting one. I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use one. Me too, b

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: > > Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's "vastly inferior". > > Birther. Yes, apparently you are. We ask birthers for their reasoning, and we get none, just statements of "fact" with no supporting evidence. Precisely what you're doin

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

Because if you were asked to use it you would have to admit you have no idea how. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:15 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, mike wrote: > > > > Why can't I walk into the Capitol with a Leatherman toolkit attached to my > belt? >

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

On Aug 8, 2009, at 2:50 AM, mike wrote: How about little facts like areas with high gun control have higher crimes committed with said weapon and areas with concealed carry laws have less crime? I know silly little facts bug you leftists...get in the way of getting rid of that pesky constitu

Re: [CGUYS] Scanners; was . . .

On Aug 8, 2009, at 9:40 AM, Fred Holmes wrote: What is your opinion of Fujitsu scanners? They are not twain compliant and thus do not produce .gif, .tiff, etc. but they do produce .pdf and also, selectably, .jpg files. I find my Fujitsu to be particularly good at making readable copy of "f

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 6:55 AM, Reid Katan wrote: That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, or wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be OSX. I suggest moving your lips as you rea

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Chris Dunford wrote: Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's "vastly inferior". Birther. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmnes

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 8:07 AM, phartz...@gmail.com wrote: I just cannot get to the point of excessively using the L word, labially caressing each letter as they pass through my lips. I am just saying that I cringe a bit when I hear things like, "Oh God, I LOOOVE my new phone S much." Chances

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:35 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are other, more secure and padded places you should be. You get plenty emotional over technology. It just doesn't seem to bring out as much love in you as it does the oppos

[CGUYS] Turn $30 Prepaid Nokia 3555 Into $1/day 3G Mobile Broadband Card

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Unlimited data for $30/mo., tethering to your PC or Mac. Is this a deal? I suppose you could do this with any unlocked 3G phone. Combine with DuoSIM, SIM Doubler, SIM Max cloner and/or WiFi, and use one provid

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

It's nice to know you've already decided to not believe any reviews of the product, makes it so you won't have to read any...not that you would, or even touch the device once it is out. This makes life so easy on you I imagine..no actual thought needed. Fits your MO. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:22

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

Often, all the time in fact. Right now. I'm lying right now. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:58 AM, TPiwowar wrote: > On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote: > >> I haven't read anything about how "aged" the iPod has become, can >> you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, ev

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jordan wrote: That said, I'm happy with a regular iPod and the simplest of phones. I can ooo and aaah over the latest iGadgets and Palms without really wanting one. I also don't have chunks of time, like a commute, where I could use one. Me too, but it is getti

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: You'll notice that "first" was in quotes in my post. Very few companies are literally first, but they were the first with a successful and popular implementation of their product. In quotes "splitting hairs." **

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> I've read that M$ is giving away loads of Zune HDs to industry > bloggers and writers. That will no doubt generate lots of sycophantic > stories for you to quote. Proving nothing. Still waiting for the list of reasons why it's "vastly inferior".

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

On Aug 8, 2009, at 10:11 AM, Jeff Wright wrote: Palm, Sony, IBM, Apple, Xerox, etc. Being first isn't first is no guarantee of being the last man standing. All of these companies were innovative, all had a dominant lock on their market and all were soon surpassed by competitors with better

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

On Aug 8, 2009, at 12:10 PM, David K Watson wrote: I haven't read anything about how "aged" the iPod has become, can you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app. And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

More in reference to the iphone. Most of these references are in the middle of reviews of phones such as the palm or the hero coming out in the US soon. On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:10 AM, David K Watson wrote: > I haven't read anything about how "aged" the iPod has become, can > you point me to one

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review

I haven't read anything about how "aged" the iPod has become, can you point me to one of those blogs? On the other hand, every day I see several articles about a new or updated iPhone/iPod app. And you CAN customize your iPhone home screen, that came with version 2 of the OS. From:mike

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Every right winger like yourself has a stronger reality distortion field. > Now go back to your worship of Dick and Sara and leave the rational > discussion to others. You know Jordan, I want to be nice to you, I really do. But then, you shoot your mouth off with such blinding, illiterate and

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

Jeff Wright wrote: Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs. That is what makes it an issue. I don't think I've ever known anyone wi

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the > people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on > your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs. > That is what makes it an issue. Let's get one thing clear right now. I don't "constantly"

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> This discussion is pretty much pure speculation but: > The iPhone wasn't just first, it was about a generation and a half > ahead. Given Apple's history of innovation it's more likely that they > will innovate again than drop from popularity. You'll notice that "first" was in quotes in my post.

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

Jeff Wright wrote: With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple appears to be i

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

You mean the ubiquitous 9th floor variety? Stewart At 09:35 AM 8/8/2009, you wrote: > If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here? Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are other, more secure and padded places you should be. *

Re: [CGUYS] Excited/Emotional Over Technology [Was: Brutal Zune Review]

> If you can't get emotional about technology,what are you doing here? Actually, if you get that emotional over technology and gadgets, there are other, more secure and padded places you should be. * ** List info, subscript

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

OK I will bite on this one. Obviously you have never had to live within budgets. Very often many of us are being asked to do more with LESS Which means the $700 program is not an option as we cannot afford it. We have to make the bucks stretch over a bigger area. So that means we do with l

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> That's funny. Every time my MacBook updates, it tells me I've got to > shut down. No choice in the matter, whether I want to do it now, or > wait 'till later. I can't find the Start Button, so it *must* be OSX. Tom also never moves off of v. 1.0 of his applications. Those later versions are jus

Re: [CGUYS] BOGUS [was: Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Good example. Imperial IT management always assumes that they know how > to do everybody's job better than the people who were hired to do the > job. Tom is certified by the National Association of Petulance. He knows what he's talking about. I would love to see Tom's client list one day. I s

Re: [CGUYS] Computer gadgets in cars

Tom you must lead a sheltered life. If you lived down south you would know Gun Racks go in the back window of your pick up truck along with a fishing rod or two. Plus the required empty beer cans in the bed. Stewart At 11:51 PM 8/7/2009, you wrote: On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:12 AM, Constance War

Re: [CGUYS] Brutal Zune Review..and on to winmo

> With 65,000 apps available for the iPhone and less than a dozen for > the competitors it is going to be very hard to catch up. The > competitors are still making some of the mistakes Apple made in its > early days and they will need to fix those first. Right now Apple > appears to be its own wors

Re: [CGUYS] Ford! Chevy! Lather, rinse, repeat [Finally an FCC that earns its keep]

> Except this isn't true. You constantly talk derisively about the > people you are supposed to support and save the greater portion on > your spleen for those who are best able to do their work with Macs. > That is what makes it an issue. I don't think I've ever known anyone with such a strong re

Re: [CGUYS] Scanners; was . . .

What is your opinion of Fujitsu scanners? They are not twain compliant and thus do not produce .gif, .tiff, etc. but they do produce .pdf and also, selectably, .jpg files. I find my Fujitsu to be particularly good at making readable copy of "faint" documents. The sheet feeder often skews the

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