[FairfieldLife] All this Time

2010-01-31 Thread John
Sting sings his own style of the blues. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_OlaPBwfjY&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] Re: 1957

2010-01-31 Thread Doug
1980 Maharishi's Year of Pure Knowledge, the Ved Maharishi celebrates the upsurge of pure knowledge in world consciousness, and reveals the nature of the Ved in terms of the spontaneous, sequential flow of the eternal, self-referral state of consiousness. Maharishi brings to light his timeless c

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > You warned me that you couldn't control your vitriol > > towards me and I didn't care if you went off. > > No. I said I *was* controlling it, and that you > might want to think about whether you really > wanted to set me off. ME set

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Path As FUN

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" wrote: [I wrote:] > > > Oh, bullcrap. You bring up Rama at every possible > > > opportunity, > > [snip] > > A visit to Google Groups Advanced Search and a search > on "Lenz" in just alt.meditation.transcendental returns > over 1,200 hits. >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Path As FUN

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: > > I have to say my take on this is competely different. My > feeling is that Barry prefers not to bring this up. Oh, please. He injects it into every conversation that gives him an opening to do so. > Shemp in particulary l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > My penchant for analyzing his posts and pointing out > > their shortcomings was what got the feud started way > > back on alt.m.t. At first, we had actual debates on > > su

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Path As FUN

2010-01-31 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000" wrote: [snip] > > > > Oh, bullcrap. You bring up Rama at every possible > > opportunity, [snip] A visit to Google Groups Advanced Search and a search on "Lenz" in just alt.meditation.transcendental returns over 1,200 hits.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
-- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > snip[ > > > > > > > > Isn't it convenient how this psychobabble excuses > > > > your behavior? > > > > > > You made up the shame spin on me not arguing with

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Message from "Raja Raam"

2010-01-31 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > It's not clear to me who this was sent to. I'll post that info when I find > > out. > > > > > > > > Here's a message from Maharaja j

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Has anyone taken Barry's assertions serious enough to even google the issue? You'd think that with thousands of followers, there'd be all sorts of sites still dedicated to adoring Rama and that, online, there would be ample citations of l

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Message from "Raja Raam"

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 9:35 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Message from "Raja Raam" I find this entire letter so odd. It's a joke, right? As far as I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New Message from "Raja Raam"

2010-01-31 Thread It's just a ride
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 9:34 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > > > I find this entire letter so odd. It's a joke, right? > > > It's got to be a joke. Delicacy? Don't quote, not even Maharishi? Our King of the Global Country and Spiritual Head of the Known Universe doesn't speak or write in broken Engl

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Path As FUN

2010-01-31 Thread lurkernomore20002000
I have to say my take on this is competely different. My feeling is that Barry prefers not to bring this up. Shemp in particulary loves to excoriate Barry over this. And it appears that we have a second corroboration of Lenz's levitation. And what's wrong if the guy did levitate. Don't we have

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Message from "Raja Raam"

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > It's not clear to me who this was sent to. I'll post that info when I find > out. > > > > Here's a message from Maharaja ji today: > > I spoke this morning with Girish-ji and he lovingly welcomed the ne

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > Then there's the constant de

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > > Then there's the constant de

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > > Barry, on the other hand, I find highly amusing and often > > insightful. > > See, that's what I was trying to get at. I have > *never* found his posts insightful, since well

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > snip[ > > > > > > Isn't it convenient how this psychobabble excuses > > > your behavior? > > > > You made up the shame spin on me not arguing with people > > who thought you were out of line for giving me shit when > > I came here

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > Then there's the constant demonization of those who > > > don't agree with him. He can't seem to argue *f

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine wrote: > > On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > > > At least now I understand what you were talking about with the Hindu orphan > > deal. > > I remember hearing from at least one TB years ago > how they were supposedly Brahmin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Then there's the constant demonization of those who > > don't agree with him. He can't seem to argue *for* > > anything without at the same time putting down > > anyone

[FairfieldLife] i.e. What Nader is REALLY saying

2010-01-31 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > It's not clear to me who this was sent to. I'll post that info when I find > out. > > > > Here's a message from Maharaja ji today: > > I spoke this morning with Girish-ji and he lovingly welcomed the ne

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Jan 31, 2010, at 6:13 PM, curtisdeltablues wrote: > At least now I understand what you were talking about with the Hindu orphan > deal. I remember hearing from at least one TB years ago how they were supposedly Brahmin boys. Sal

[FairfieldLife] Re: Our nostalgia for Bush and Cheney

2010-01-31 Thread mainstream20016
The perpetual war constituency stokes fears repeatedly to justify the highly profitable military excursions throughout the world. Obama placates these interests knowing JFK paid the highest price for trying to dismantle the CIA post Bay of Pigs. Even Eisenhower probably couldn't envision the m

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: you're making > > > fun of the Maharishi for trying to raise > > > funds for Hindu orphans. > > > > > He never gave a dime for such a cause. > > > But, I thought the Maharishi supported over > 20,000 pundit boys at the largest private >

[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2010-01-31 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): Sat Jan 30 00:00:00 2010 End Date (UTC): Sat Feb 06 00:00:00 2010 166 messages as of (UTC) Mon Feb 01 00:12:03 2010 25 authfriend 15 WillyTex 12 curtisdeltablues 12 TurquoiseB 9 Rick Archer 8 nablusoss1008 8 "do.rfl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > Then there's the constant demonization of those who > don't agree with him. He can't seem to argue *for* > anything without at the same time putting down > anyone who believes differently. Just wanted to add one point: If it weren't for

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
> > All this statement proves is your > prejudice against Hindus. > > Curtis: > Just the snake-oil salesmen among them. > Don't you just hate those snake-oil salesmen! Like the Maharishi, the Pope, and the Dalai Lama! Criminals! Gawd, who do they think they are? Shouldn't there be a law ag

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > Barry, on the other hand, I find highly amusing and often > insightful. See, that's what I was trying to get at. I have *never* found his posts insightful, since well before there was a "feud" per se. Sometimes he's mildly amusing, but most of

[FairfieldLife] America's Got Talent

2010-01-31 Thread John
Next singing star? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfCqpzQSyuQ&feature=related

[FairfieldLife] New Message from "Raja Raam"

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Archer
It's not clear to me who this was sent to. I'll post that info when I find out. Here's a message from Maharaja ji today: I spoke this morning with Girish-ji and he lovingly welcomed the news but brought to my attention a delicacy in the notice sent by Raja Hagelin whi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "ShempMcGurk" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > > On Behalf Of wayback71 > > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:51 PM > > To: Fairfi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > Wayback, just out of curiosity: I assume you read Barry's > > > posts that aren't about me, right? > > > > Yes, I do read some of Barry's posts that are not abo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > > Having read the first volley of them years ago, I can tell > > > you that I too avoid them li

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > Wayback, just out of curiosity: I assume you read Barry's > > posts that aren't about me, right? > > Yes, I do read some of Barry's posts that are not about > you, but not all of his posts. I always go by topic since > at this point

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread ShempMcGurk
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer" wrote: > > From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of wayback71 > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:51 PM > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Whose model of development are you using? > > > > > I have for years now had keen interest in Ken Wilber's philosophy, and also > other spiritual teac

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of wayback71 Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 1:51 PM To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters Sometimes, but I guess about half t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > Having read the first volley of them years ago, I can tell > > you that I too avoid them like the plague. They leave a > > bad taste in the mouth, all seem identical,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" wrote: > > I remember seeing one of his magazinesthe cover had an > incredibly hot woman sitting on the hood of a Porsche with > the caption: Samadhi Is Loose in America > > Come to think of it I probably saw this over at Barry's pad. Very possib

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
I remember seeing one of his magazinesthe cover had an incredibly hot woman sitting on the hood of a Porsche with the caption: Samadhi Is Loose in America Come to think of it I probably saw this over at Barry's pad. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > On Jan 31, 2010,

[FairfieldLife] Time Out for Rev. X

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bhy0_jkOXCo&feature=player_embedded#

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > Curtis: > > Was that the time when Maharishis made all > > the faucets in the hotel run with carob > > flavored milk and every child found gumdrops > > appearing in their little pockets? (Their > > favorite colors only and not any of th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" wrote: > When my > unconscious discovers things don't click or aren't complete, the issues > bubble up to the surface and I find I need to rebutt, finish a conversation, > often answer a question asked of me during a conversation but I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Vaj
On Jan 31, 2010, at 11:53 AM, Duveyoung wrote: > Has anyone taken Barry's assertions serious enough to even google the issue? > You'd think that with thousands of followers, there'd be all sorts of sites > still dedicated to adoring Rama and that, online, there would be ample > citations of le

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: > Or are you just a troll > with no life to speak of outside the "Golden Domes > of Pure Knowledge", can't get his kicks without > creating non-existent arguments. Bingo. At least, this is how he chooses to get his kicks, or some of his kick

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Wilber's vertical-vs.-horizontal development scheme also > > makes excellent sense to me, especially the notion that > > they aren't necessarily coordinated, i.e., that one

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread Joe
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > snip[ > > > > > > Isn't it convenient how this psychobabble excuses > > > your behavio

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!

2010-01-31 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo" wrote: I know why I never learn though, it's because I'm an optimist. I like to believe that one day I'll get you to understand a contrary viewpoint. Well said! You expressed the odd mystery of interacting with him perfectly. > > > > --- In Fa

[FairfieldLife] Exclusive: Obama stimulus reduced our pain, experts say

2010-01-31 Thread do.rflex
Exclusive: Obama stimulus reduced our pain, experts say By Paul Wiseman and Barbara Hansen , USA TODAY President Obama's stimulus package saved jobs — but the gover

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
Curtis: > Was that the time when Maharishis made all > the faucets in the hotel run with carob > flavored milk and every child found gumdrops > appearing in their little pockets? (Their > favorite colors only and not any of those > nasty licorice ones.) > All this statement proves is your p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Duveyoung
Touché, Alex! Nice. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > > > Let's face it: Barry could be sitting in his underwear in his > > Mom's basement in Gary, Indiana; a 400 pound pock marked puter > > geek

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread It's just a ride
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Irmeli wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" > wrote: > > > > My > > friend will shake his/her head and ask "where did this come from" but > that's > > the way my unconscious works. Reshift, reshift, reshift, getting my > > under

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Alex Stanley
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung wrote: > > Let's face it: Barry could be sitting in his underwear in his > Mom's basement in Gary, Indiana; a 400 pound pock marked puter > geek who makes it look like his posts come from Europe enough > to fool Alex; Like you, Barry is using the

[FairfieldLife] Review of Avatar

2010-01-31 Thread Rick Archer
MAWKISH, MAYBE. BUT AVATAR IS A PROFOUND, INSIGHTFUL, IMPORTANT FILM CAMERON'S BLOCKBUSTER OFFERS A CHILLING METAPHOR FOR EUROPEAN BUTCHERY OF THE AMERICAS. NO WONDER THE US RIGHT HATES IT. By George Monbiot The Guardian January 11, 2010

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > Wilber's vertical-vs.-horizontal development scheme also > makes excellent sense to me, especially the notion that > they aren't necessarily coordinated, i.e., that one can > be further along in vertical development than one is in >

[FairfieldLife] Re: January, The private life and 2 Kids

2010-01-31 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Doug" wrote: > > The TM Maharaja Private life and 2 Kids Doug; get a hobby !

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
> Telling people yagyas have a foundation in > QP is highly dubious behaviour... > Everything on the planet has something to do with 'QP', Hugo. The question is, can QP be altered or changed at will? I don't think the Maharishi ever made that claim. It's not even mentioned in your original p

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Duveyoung
Has anyone taken Barry's assertions serious enough to even google the issue? You'd think that with thousands of followers, there'd be all sorts of sites still dedicated to adoring Rama and that, online, there would be ample citations of levitation to point at. Got any? Not worth the googling

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
RD: > If Rama levitated in the desert, maybe > it was a mirage... > Let's see if we can bring the conversation down to Turq's level. If you are speeding down a West Texas highway, in the middle of the desert, and you see a 'wet spot' on the road, even though it hasn't rained for sixty days, d

[FairfieldLife] Our nostalgia for Bush and Cheney

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
>From Glenn Greenwald today: ...There is clearly a bipartisan and institutional craving for a revival...of the core premise of Bush/Cheney radicalism: that because we're "at war" with Terrorists, our standard precepts of justice and due process do not apply and, indeed, must be violated

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
RD: > Barry fibbed about Rama levitating? > Only about the 'thousands' of people who saw the Rama levitating and hovering. There is a constructed character of knowing. If we see a snake in the night, and it turns out to be a rope in the morning, the rope is not unreal, but it's not real eit

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!

2010-01-31 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > But, if thoughts are not part of the physical > > > world, then what are they a part of? That's the > > > question, and it's has nothing to do with ethics, > > > religious or otherwise. > > > > Hugo: > > Selling prayers that d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
Turq: > But did it *happen*? On a physical level? Of course > not. If it had, astronomers all over the world would > have gone bull goose loony. > So, you're thinking that objects are NOT exactly as they appear. That objects are CHANGED by the very act of being obeserved. And that objects are n

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > Having read the first volley of them years ago, I can tell > you that I too avoid them like the plague. They leave a > bad taste in the mouth, all seem identical, and are a > waste of my time - kind of like listening to the endless, > r

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Spiritual Path As FUN

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > I actually hate talking about all the flash that > happened around Rama. Especially here, because > people are so hungry for flash, and so jealous > of it actually happening for other people, as > opposed to only reading about it, or hea

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
> > But, if thoughts are not part of the physical > > world, then what are they a part of? That's the > > question, and it's has nothing to do with ethics, > > religious or otherwise. > > Hugo: > Selling prayers that don't work for large sums > and using quantum physics as justification > sound

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" wrote: > The severe problem was how it got implemented. The tools > and tactics used belong to the category of fanatic > fundamentalism. This implies to me that Maharishi was in > his personal structural development still at mythical- > fundamentalis

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yagyas for all!

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
> > It works the same way with your thoughts... > > > Oh lawd! ROFLMAO! > We know that for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. That's one of the laws of physics. 'Karma' means action - natural law based on common sense - causation. All events spring from causes. So, ever

[FairfieldLife] The Spiritual Path As FUN

2010-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
I actually hate talking about all the flash that happened around Rama. Especially here, because people are so hungry for flash, and so jealous of it actually happening for other people, as opposed to only reading about it, or hearing it in other people's stories. For me, looking back at the Rama

[FairfieldLife] Re: Persecution As A Cult Technique (was: ...married with 2 daughters)

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > To the point that even *imagining* the persecution > is enough to fuel the fires of "specialness." Thus > if a cult's beliefs or practices are ridiculed or > criticized, it's never individuals making fun of > individuals -- its a systemati

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > I wasn't on drugs, if that's what you're implying. > Neither were the thousands of others who exper- > ienced the same things I did. Were we "hallucinating" > in the sense that we saw and experienced things that > a video camera wouldn't h

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread raunchydog
If Rama levitated in the desert, maybe it was a mirage. Is it possible to video a mirage? Your friend's hand washing thing sounds like OCD. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Tell us

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > > > Whose model of development are you using? > > I have for years now had keen interest in Ken Wilber's philosophy, and also other spiritual teacher's and scientists' thinking in those circles. I'm a member of Integral Spiritua

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > Judy, I have read all the recent posts between you and > Curtis. I think Curtis was genuinely trying to tell > you that he enjoys your posts, enjoys Barry's posts, > and no longer reads the posts between the 2 of you. He > was "being ni

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "wayback71" wrote: > > Actually, I had a friend, a former TM teacher now deceased, > who was a student of Rama's around the time Barry must have > been there. This friend also talked of seeing Rama levitate > on many occasions. He also saw him move clouds a

[FairfieldLife] US Defense Spending In Context - Where does all the money go?

2010-01-31 Thread do.rflex
As far back as 9/10/2001: Rumsfeld says $2.3 TRILLION Missing from Pentagon Watch brief CBS video clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU = = = from Matthew Yglesias I've shown charts before showing how absurd the American defense budget loo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "WillyTex" wrote: > > > > > > > Tell us the truth. Were you hallucinating > > > > when you saw the levitation? > > > > > RD: > > Too bad all those thousands of people who > > experienced Rama levitating pre-mobile phone > > days didn't upload a video o

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a > > reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. > > > > I don't doubt thi

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread raunchydog
Barry fibbed about Rama levitating? Ya don't say. I guess if Barry says he "experienced" Rama levitating rather than he "saw" Rama levitating he thinks it gives him cover for lying. So, WillyTex, if no one other than Barry "experienced" Rama levitating, was he also lying that thousands of people

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > snip[ > > > > Isn't it convenient how this psychobabble excuses > > your behavior? > > You made up the shame spin on me not arguing with people > who thought yo

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread cardemaister
Seeing colors in a black-and-white pic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0T3z_mEpdk&feature=PlayList&p=BB2029B883654D65&index=1 http://tinyurl.com/yg6hdsw Watch at about 7:00 onwards..

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
> > > > Curtis, as you well know, this goes way back > > > > with you and me, to shortly after you joined > > > > us here. > > > > > > > That's quite a long term grudge you are nursing > > > there Judy. > > > > > "Grudge" is a weasel word in this context. Barry > > likes to use it too. But

[FairfieldLife] Re: Bevan's Maharaja Adhiraj Rajaraam is married with 2 daughters

2010-01-31 Thread wayback71
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > Snip > > > > > > It is neither yours nor Barry's best work here IMO. > > > > > > Says Cu

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread WillyTex
> > > Tell us the truth. Were you hallucinating > > > when you saw the levitation? > > > RD: > Too bad all those thousands of people who > experienced Rama levitating pre-mobile phone > days didn't upload a video of him hovering in > mid-air... > Too bad Rama levitating in front of thousands

[FairfieldLife] January, The Secret Wife and 2 Kids

2010-01-31 Thread Doug
The TM Maharaja Secret wife and 2 Kids Hagelin's Announcement http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/238789 Wynne's Annoucement http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239107 Bevan's Announcement http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239740 http://groups.y

[FairfieldLife] Re: High Times in California

2010-01-31 Thread shukra69
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Even if pot is legalized in California, the Feds are still going to enforce > its laws. In practical terms that wouldn't be as there is no federal police force of sufficient size. So, Californians who use pot could still be subject to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "raunchydog" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > I wasn't on drugs, if that's what you're implying. > > Neither were the thousands of others who exper- > > ienced the same things I did. Were we "hallucinating" > > in the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > > > > > > > No one in this forum has even enterta

[FairfieldLife] Christian Right Republican Health Care

2010-01-31 Thread do.rflex
[Piss off, you socialist leper! ] Image link: http://hankwatchestelevision.com/unleashed/?p=561

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread raunchydog
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Irmeli" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > There was in Grand Duchy of Finland (then part of Russia) > > a strange feller called Kuikka-Koponen (Abel Koponen, 1833 - 1890). > > It is told that some people saw

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread do.rflex
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > > > I wasn't on drugs, if that's what you're implying. > > > Neither were the thousands of others who exper- > > > ienced the same things I did. Were we "hallucinating" >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > There was in Grand Duchy of Finland (then part of Russia) > a strange feller called Kuikka-Koponen (Abel Koponen, 1833 - 1890). > It is told that some people saw him get *inside* a horse > through its arsehole. He was claimed to have l

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" wrote: > > Your ideas in this discussion are well intentioned. But there must be a > reason why MMY insisted on practicing these siddhi techniques. I don't doubt this. Certainly there was a reason for it. An important one is that it brought an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Irmeli
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "It's just a ride" wrote: > My > friend will shake his/her head and ask "where did this come from" but that's > the way my unconscious works. Reshift, reshift, reshift, getting my > understanding of things better digested. I think that is a great quali

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > Nablusoss wrote: > > > It will happen, perhaps. For example the tape from Seelisberg where the > > > videoguy in the bus outside Kulm who had the tape running and was waiting > > > for Maharishi to come. He did, slowly from the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister wrote: > > > I wasn't on drugs, if that's what you're implying. > > Neither were the thousands of others who exper- > > ienced the same things I did. Were we "hallucinating" > > in the sense that we saw and experienced things that > > a video came

[FairfieldLife] Re: Yogastah Kuru Karmani

2010-01-31 Thread cardemaister
> > I wasn't on drugs, if that's what you're implying. > Neither were the thousands of others who exper- > ienced the same things I did. Were we "hallucinating" > in the sense that we saw and experienced things that > a video camera wouldn't have captured? Possibly. But > that does not mean we d

[FairfieldLife] Persecution As A Cult Technique (was: ...married with 2 daughters)

2010-01-31 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote: > > I read a fascinating book about how grudges are maintained > in the Mideast from generation to generation. The perception > of ongoing offense is critical for maintaining the emotional > intensity and for maintaining victim st