Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Benz Hogs
l Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread OK Don
What Jim said! BTDT! On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > And go easy! The difference between "stays in the detent now" and >> "won't come out of the detent now" is only a stroke or two of the >> file. >> >> -- Jim > > > -- OK Don 2013 F150, 19 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
inal Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Canfield > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 9:46 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. > > Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 list

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Scott Ritchey
To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Bt! Not completely. Interestingly enough the MSDS for wd40 lists aliphatic hydrocarbons as a main ingredient. Guess what fish oil is? Squalene(shark liver oil) is an example. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 1:45 AM, "Scott Ri

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread Dieselhead
Shoulda seen the looks Toni used to get jumping the solenoid on our old 240d with a big allen wrench. Nuttin hotter than a cute chick under the hood of a German car...lol Mike I used a big long screwdriver for a long time. However i moved up to a 18" length of 1/2 " copper tubing. that

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
For a job like soaking the engine bay of a snowmobile the gallon bottles are probably invaluable. Otherwise I doubt it matters, its still liquid in the aerosol cans... -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 13:45:53 -0500 From: Randy Bennell To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Randy Bennell
f his. -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:22:49 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID: <51d2fe59.5010...@constructivity.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky re

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Curt Raymond
like new under the hood. The only machine I've ever seen that still had all the paint on the exhaust after a couple seasons riding was one of his. -Curt Date: Tue, 02 Jul 2013 12:22:49 -0400 From: Rich Thomas To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Messa

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Rich Thomas
I suppose, if the applied-to thing does not need to move --R On 7/2/13 12:26 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:22 PM, "Rich Thomas"

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tend

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
In a harsh environment like that the wd-40 is better. It displaces the water and leaves a protective barrier. Your LPS will not work as well. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:22 PM, "Rich Thomas" wrote: > Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates > but I have noticed tha

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah it leaves sort of a sticky brown gunky residue, most of it evaporates but I have noticed that residue after some long time. My in-laws are quite fond of it at the Nantucket house, which is right close to the water, and it gets a lot of salt spray and air, so stuff tends to corrode and sei

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
It does goop up. Provides an excellent protective barrier for non-moving parts. Not so good on moving parts as it collects dust and dirt and "goops up" into a oily paste. Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:14 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: > >> Initially, then when

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Try spraying it in an adding machine, clock, etc. Wait a month or six. Then buy another clock. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go t

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Randy Bennell
On 01/07/2013 3:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R Do you find that WD40 goops up? My experience with it seems to indicate that it just disappears. Randy ___ http://

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-02 Thread Michael Canfield
;s tale). It's petro distillates. > > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael > Canfield > Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. > > Is fish oi

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread Jim Cathey
You want to file the detents or depressions in order to once again allow the pin to nestle in place without popping out. And go easy! The difference between "stays in the detent now" and "won't come out of the detent now" is only a stroke or two of the file. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-02 Thread dseretakis
You want to file the detents or depressions in order to once again allow the pin to nestle in place without popping out. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2013, at 12:13 AM, Fmiser wrote: >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it >> eligi

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread dseretakis
That makes sense. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 2, 2013, at 2:34 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: >> So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger >> set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now >> not? > > Somebody once told me that it takes mo

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-02 Thread dseretakis
There were lights with charger connected but I guess the battery was so dead that it was robbing the current from the car. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:59 PM, Fmiser wrote: >> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >> Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It >> initially

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Somebody once told me that it takes more like 1000A to crank one of these diesels over, if it's on the cold side. -- Jim _

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
But WD-40 is not a lubricant. But it sure acts like one. I think of it more as a very slow-set glue. I used ATF, and used the vacuum source to slurp it up into the cable sheath and all the way through. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it eligible to have the detents filed? Yes, so far as I know. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arch

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Scott Ritchey
No fish oil in WD40 (wife's tale). It's petro distillates. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Michael Canfield Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 12:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Is fish

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Is fish oil not a lubricant? Mike On Jul 2, 2013 12:11 AM, "Fmiser" wrote: > > > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > > > > > > LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the > > > > hood end as well. > > > > Craig wrote: > > > > > > But WD-40 is not a lubricant. > > > Andrew wrote: > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-01 Thread Fmiser
> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it > eligible to have the detents filed? I'm a bit confused... What detents? And why do you want to file them? What should this repair? I am pretty sure my 1978 W123 turn signal assembly is exactly t

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Fmiser
> dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It > initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on > subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash > lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter > on thi

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Fmiser
> > > Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > > > > LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the > > > hood end as well. > > Craig wrote: > > > > But WD-40 is not a lubricant. > Andrew wrote: > > But it sure acts like one. So does water. And Elmers glue - until it sets. If you want lubr

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Try it on your seats --R On 7/1/13 6:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/arc

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Well, at least I don't use Armor All on my vinyl surfaces... On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Rich Thomas < richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote: > Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than > when you started. > > --R > > > > On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasf

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Canfield
a touch of starter and it fired right up, > of course. Looks of amazement, cheering and acclamations, etc., from the > assembled gallery as I lowered the hood and jumped back in my Caravan. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" > To: "D

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Initially, then when it goops up after it dries out you are worse off than when you started. --R On 7/1/13 3:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, "Craig" wrote: On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: LIberally spray insid

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
errible. Once you get it free'd up clean it with carb cleaner and use some real cable lube which doesn't attract dirt. -Curt  Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 15:22:01 -0400 From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID:     Content-Type:

[MBZ] 240D Turn signal stalk

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
Can the turn signal stalk on a 78 240D be repaired-as in, is it eligible to have the detents filed? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubs

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
, cheering and acclamations, etc., from the assembled > gallery as I lowered the hood and jumped back in my Caravan. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" > To: "Diesel List" > Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM > Subj

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
But it sure acts like one. On Jul 1, 2013 2:30 PM, "Craig" wrote: > On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as > > well. > > > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey > > wrote: > > > > > Yup.

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Craig
On Mon, 1 Jul 2013 12:02:49 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as > well. > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey > wrote: > > > Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a > > lot > >> more > >>

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread WILTON
" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 1:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Sure sounds like it to me, maybe an internal short? Last winter my 240D made a weird sound when I tried to start it in the airport parking garage, on the second attempt it started. Then a cou

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Ground strap engine to body (on the 79 300TD is down above the transmission at back of block)? --R On 7/1/13 12:50 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt wo

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
l set", he said "Color me amazed". Now he tells people around the office what a wizard I am. -Curt The man, the myth, the office legend Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 13:03:27 -0400 From: Michael Canfield To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D no start Message-ID:     Con

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
So if battery was bad then why wouldn't it even crank with battery charger set 225A start mode. Why did it initially crank with battery charger and now not? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Michael Canfield wrote: > Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? > > Mike >

Re: [MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Bad battery or severely corroded battery terminals? Mike On Jul 1, 2013 12:51 PM, wrote: > Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would > crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would > not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing.

[MBZ] 240D no start

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
Ok trying to get my friend's 78 240D started. No luck. It initially would crank with battery charger hooked up but then on subsequent attempt would not crank. Without charger no dash lights, nothing. Not sure what's going on. I replaced the starter on this car several years ago, my friend drove

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
e >> cable. >> >> -Curt >> >> Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 >> From: Alex Chamberlain >> To: Mercedes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. >> Message-ID: >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Rich Thomas
D. It even came with a pair of vice grips. My '85 190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the cable. -Curt Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussio

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
190D had a nasty cable and kept breaking the under dash lever which > sadly on the w201 is plastic. Had I kept the car I'd have replaced the > cable. > > -Curt > > Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 08:39:29 -0700 > From: Alex Chamberlain > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subj

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Curt Raymond
08:39:29 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release. Message-ID:     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
LIberally spray inside the cable sheath with WD 40 from the hood end as well. On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot >> more >> effort than you expect. >> > > Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! > > -- Jim > > >

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
Yup. I would add, use vice grips, and be prepared for it to take a lot more effort than you expect. Yes, in this case, DO tug on that! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okie

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Jim Cathey wrote: > I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the >> grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car >> seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? >> > > Unhook the handle end

Re: [MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread Jim Cathey
I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Unhook the handle end of the cable from the wall of the car and pull on the entire th

[MBZ] 240D hood release.

2013-07-01 Thread dseretakis
I'm trying to pop the hood on a friends 240D. The latch coming out of the grill is broken and a coat wire attached. The release cable in the car seems stretched as it won't release the hood. What do I do here? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread Curt Raymond
08:52:55 -0700 From: Jim Cathey To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp Message-ID: <7a807dca-d50a-11e2-a381-000502d9a...@windwireless.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed I get the air out by cracking open the top hose at the radi

Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread WILTON
Pouring coolant into top hose a la Jim works nicely for me, too, but my cars are '87 124 and '91 126. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D won&

Re: [MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread Jim Cathey
I get the air out by cracking open the top hose at the radiator and pouring water in until it's running out over my hand, then I push the hose on. That seems to do it. Try parking with the nose significantly up. Ramps? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com Fo

[MBZ] 240D won't burp

2013-06-14 Thread Curt Raymond
BAH! These are the days that make me want to throw up my hands and get a brand new appliance grade car to be boring in. I can't get my '78 240D to not run hot. Its not overheating but right now the gauge is steady around 200F (max is 250F) with no warm coming from the heat. Okay, backup. Everyt

Re: [MBZ] 240D oil leak

2013-05-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D oil leak Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Tensioner is not something you take apart as it is under spring pressure. you replace the unit. I have o

Re: [MBZ] 240D oil leak

2013-05-30 Thread Dieselhead
Tensioner is not something you take apart as it is under spring pressure. you replace the unit. I have only seen leaks at the oring seal to the head. I can't remember the 616 style, but I think it is the same as older types that is held in with two bolts, one also being half on the exh mani

[MBZ] 240D oil leak

2013-05-30 Thread Curt Raymond
Ahhh, so close to getting my '78 240D back into usable trim. Took it for a 10 mile ride today and everything was fine except a lingering scent of burning oil. I figured I'd spilled a little when I changed it the other day but the smell just wouldn't quit. When I got home I had oil dripping off t

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
If we didn't love ya, Max, I wouldn't say a word. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Usually, much to my family's horror, not much trying

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Max
Usually, much to my family's horror, not much trying is required! WILTON wrote: >Max is trying to be a clown today, Darren; welcome aboard. ;<) > >Wilton > >- Original Message - >From: "Max" >To: "Mercedes Discussion List" >Sen

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Darren Marshall
Ha! Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On May 4, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Max wrote: > Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. > > ;) > > Welcome Darren! > > Darren Marshall wrote: > >> Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
Max is trying to be a clown today, Darren; welcome aboard. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Max" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 1:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 day

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Michael Canfield
Is this banned lite? Mike On May 4, 2013 1:26 PM, "Max" wrote: > Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. > > ;) > > Welcome Darren! > > Darren Marshall wrote: > > >Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on > >this mailing list? I ca

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Max
Your application is rejected. Re-apply in 90 days for final disapproval. ;) Welcome Darren! Darren Marshall wrote: >Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on >this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is >still being reviewed (I signed up a

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Darren Marshall
ent this msg and one earlier today to > the list; I received both of them via the list. Are you receiving this via > the list? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Darren Marshall" > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Thursday, May 02,

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread WILTON
hursday, May 02, 2013 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is still being reviewed (I signed up a week ago) ... any help or insight would be appreciated! Darren

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-04 Thread Darren Marshall
Wilton, would you mind helping me understand the process of getting on this mailing list? I cannot seem to post questions as my account is still being reviewed (I signed up a week ago) ... any help or insight would be appreciated! Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On May 2,

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On May 3, 2013 11:50 AM, "Craig" wrote: > > You are correct, though, that once a > 240D is started it will continue to > run without electricity. I don't know if > that is true for more modern > diesels Probably a simple inverse function. The more modern they get, the worse they run without ele

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
Which is why I said "partially wrong" :) Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 "Max" (164,xxx mi) On 5/3/2013 1:50 PM, Craig wrote: Actually no, not wrong ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archiv

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Craig
On Fri, 03 May 2013 13:22:04 -0500 Benz Hogs wrote: > BZT, partially wrong. None are *required* to start or run a > 240D, they are required if you wish to have turn signals, wipers, or > lights. Actually no, not wrong. If you want to CONTINUE to be able to start your 240D, you do need

Re: [MBZ] 240D required electricals

2013-05-03 Thread Benz Hogs
BZT, partially wrong. None are *required* to start or run a 240D, they are required if you wish to have turn signals, wipers, or lights. My first Benz, '83 300SD, had the regulator go bad around dusk during a trip from AR to KS. We spent the night at a motel, called the Kansas City B

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
;Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Me, too, but my "condition" would make it REALLY hard for me to drive a stndrd tranny now (Model A or Karman Ghia); 'c

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
was VERY glad to get there each time for him to take it. Now, if I had plenty of dough like y'all (youse guys), I'd put an autotranny in 'em and off I'd go with a one-footed Model A or Karman Ghia. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: &q

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
What makes the coupe so valuable? The 365daysofA guy only paid like $14k for his Tudor. If I had a big garage I'd seriously consider a bottom feeder type Model A... -Curt Date: Thu, 2 May 2013 15:00:25 -0400 From: "WILTON" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject:

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
money for any of 'em. 'Woulda been nice if I coulda stored 'em in a nice, dry warehouse somewhere - not TOO dry - a Goldilocks warehouse. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 0

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Curt Raymond" > To: "Diesel List" > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:10 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D > > > Me too, I had a china blue wagon for awhile with the blue interior... >> >> In wondering if my 240D is kaput I did some searching for a new one, if

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
Yep, I've pined for my 3-pedal one several times; sorta wish I'da bought it back and fixed it myself. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond" To: "Diesel List" Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Me too, I had a ch

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond
cedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I like it best in Dimitri Blue/blue. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, WILTON wrote: > 'Saw a beautiful, spotless 240D in a parking lot a little while ago. > Design may be nearly 40 y

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
ercedes Discussion List" Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D I like it best in Dimitri Blue/blue. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, WILTON wrote: 'Saw a beautiful, spotless 240D in a parking lot a little while ago. Design may be nearly 40 years old, b

Re: [MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I like it best in Dimitri Blue/blue. On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM, WILTON wrote: > 'Saw a beautiful, spotless 240D in a parking lot a little while ago. > Design may be nearly 40 years old, but it still looks mighty good, even in > beige/tan! > > Wilton > _

[MBZ] 240D

2013-05-02 Thread WILTON
'Saw a beautiful, spotless 240D in a parking lot a little while ago. Design may be nearly 40 years old, but it still looks mighty good, even in beige/tan! Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-09 Thread Rich Thomas
ruhroh... --R On 4/8/13 8:05 PM, WILTON wrote: Mr. and Mrs. Banker were amazed by my magic stick. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dieselhead
An auto electric shop that repairs/rebuilds starters can get them. If you find a source, you want a Bosch. I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service right now. And, as a point of data for everyo

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread WILTON
ick. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. Funny story about starter abuse: Co-worker had a PT Cruiser that had intermittent starting probl

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Sorry, I'm late to all this, but I see your post where you mention the problem is the relay... I didn't catch up on all the rest of them yet. But, Being a 1980, this probably has the earlier style relay. You can open these up and clean the contacts. If you hear it clicking, then the solenoid in

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Mountain Man
Bob R wrote: > I have removed the starter, but the solenoid back on, packed up and I'm > heading over to UPS. Gary provided stellar customer serviceso far. Yes. Our problem was in December. We used hammer on starter for about 10 days and then the problem disappeared. Gary found us a German s

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dan Penoff
Funny story about starter abuse: Co-worker had a PT Cruiser that had intermittent starting problems, as in it would not crank at random times. Knowing I had a "little" automotive experience (his words) he asked me if I had any idea as to the problem. "Check all of your battery terminals, chassi

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
I have removed the starter, but the solenoid back on, packed up and I'm heading over to UPS. Gary provided stellar customer serviceso far. Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 3:27 PM, "Dan Penoff" wrote: > If you can find a solenoid it will cost almost as much as a complete > starter. That's just the way t

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Dan Penoff
If you can find a solenoid it will cost almost as much as a complete starter. That's just the way the market is. This solenoid works by pulling in the armature to engage the bendix drive on the starter. When the armature pulls in, a large copper disc on the armature shorts the two large termina

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
cussion List" > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:17 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. > > > I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this >> starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service >> rig

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread WILTON
I guess you turned in the old starter when you got the "new" one? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Bob Rentfro" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update. I'm working on

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
I'm working on the warranty thing right now. Oddly enough, I got this starter from Gary. I'm going to get a big dose of his customer service right now. And, as a point of data for everyone, no one sells starter solenoids by them self anymore. Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 2:14 PM, "Craig" wrote: > On Mon

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:26:38 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three > months ago. So what holds that's so annoying on? Is it allen head? You bought it new three months ago? What kind of warranty does it have? Can you not make good on the w

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:38:49 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > Sothis is the first time I've tried to remove a solenoid. It appears > that the electrical part comes off and the mechanical part stays on the > starter is that correct? You will first need to remove the starter from the car. Then loose

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
I get it now. Thanks for all the advice, men. Gotta get the pug on the road. Gotta find a solenoid On Apr 8, 2013 1:39 PM, "Craig" wrote: > On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:02:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > > > > What happens when you short the top large terminal on the starter > > > (with the large wire t

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Craig
On Mon, 8 Apr 2013 13:02:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro wrote: > > What happens when you short the top large terminal on the starter > > (with the large wire that goes to the battery) to the small, middle > > terminal on the starter? > > Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the >

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
Sothis is the first time I've tried to remove a solenoid. It appears that the electrical part comes off and the mechanical part stays on the starter is that correct? Bob R On Apr 8, 2013 1:26 PM, "Bob Rentfro" wrote: > The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three month

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Bob Rentfro
The solenoid came installed on the new Bosch starter I bought three months ago. So what holds that's so annoying on? Is it allen head? On Apr 8, 2013 1:14 PM, "Randy Bennell" wrote: > On 08/04/2013 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: > >> Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the

Re: [MBZ] 240D starting woes update.

2013-04-08 Thread Randy Bennell
On 08/04/2013 3:02 PM, Bob Rentfro wrote: Curtain Craig I just went from the top lug to the small lug on the solenoid and I can hear clicking at the glow plug relay but nothing happens. Bad solenoid? On Apr 8, 2013 12:56 PM, "Craig" wrote: Let me suggest that you get one of the remote starter

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