Kraftwerk afterparty in the D?!
http://m.metrotimes.com/Blogs/archives/2015/09/01/ralf-hutter-of-kraftwerk-tells-rolling-stone-of-spiritual-connection-with-detroit
PR company to help in starting label
Hello folks, Can anyone recommend good PR firms who might be able to help as I work to get my new label out of Detroit running? Thanks in advance, ~David
Chari Vari 2015
So this just happened: http://charivaridetroit.com/ If you are one of those people who remembers the first DEMF when it was free, and the vibe of a more mixed crowd, well guess what?! THAT is what Chari Vari is all about. Just an incredible day with heads and kids, old and young, plenty of families. Almost no ravers as well. Also, the event was on Belle Isle, and you wouldn't believe better things are (compared to Hart Plaza / Movement) with all that extra space and natural beauty. If you get tired of nonstop beats you can just wander off and have a picnic by the river. Tons of great Detroit music both days, if you are from out of town and want to hear real Detroit music, I would highly recommend coming into town for Chari Vari. Unlike Memorial Day weekend, You can probably even get a reasonably priced hotel room. I think this could become Detroit's answer to the Chosen Few house music picnic that happens every year in Chicago. I am excited to see what next year brings. ~David
Patrice Scott: Euphonium The Album
On a more upbeat note, Detroit's Patrice Scott just put out his first album, and from the sound clips it's pretty dope: http://www.juno.co.uk/products/patrice-scott-euphonium-the-album/563232-01/
Re: New Metamorphic release
Cool music, and great news about Metamorphic... The older releases contain some great secret weapons that are unknown by the younger crowd. ~David On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 5:41 PM d...@metrecs.com wrote: Hi 313 ers... Dan Curtin here, this might be my first post but I've been on this list for ages! I just wanted to share the new Metamorphic release with you...which is not technically from Detroit but definitely inspired, as usual, by Detroit. I hope you all dig... https://soundcloud.com/metamorphic-recordings/midwest-pressure stay tuned for more vinyl releases from Zach Lubin (of Sonic Sunset and Axis fame) and of curse none other than Titonton. All the best to the techno supporters Dan
New Music from Detroit!
Hello everyone, Greetings from my secret headquarters near downtown Detroit. I wanted to share my new release with you all; it was recorded entirely here in Detroit, and I'm giving it away for free for a limited time only. My new project PAD focuses on the more minimal side of electronic music, while still paying tribute to the rich musical legacy of Detroit music. I've already completed an entire album of material, so be on the lookout for that, and in the meantime, I hope you enjoy the track! https://pad-detroit.bandcamp.com/track/2-cool-2-dance
Re: Repress'
In my opinion, what you are talking about is strictly speaking no longer a remix but more of a new work that is using derivative elements from another work. As far as whether it's okay, that is up to the person who holds the original copyright; if it's your track do whatever you want, and if it sounds good, it sounds good and that's all that matters. ~dp On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:30 AM Vibe Kat asilalptekinm...@gmail.com wrote: Quick question to all: Is it ok to write lyrics and perform some vocal on a remix i make? The original track is instrumental. What are your thoughts about it? 2015-03-24 11:02 GMT+01:00 Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com: There’s a tread on Discogs about the recent reissues of lots of Detroit Chicago 12”s one poster, Danimal, is saying his responsible for getting these repressed and distributed, his asked in one post if there are any specific 12”s from the labels his working with that people wanted pressed. Check it out, the labels I’ve noticed so far are; KMS 430 West Acacia Wants to do Retroactive, no joy with contact. Planet E Trax Records Maad Records http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/390587 Another tread; http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/390608
Re: Movement 2015
As far as the car advice, that has changed somewhat. You can just use Uber / UberX in Detroit now, I live here without a car and it's no problem (I guess Lyft is another options but I haven't tried it). There were extra drivers in the city over Movement weekend this past year and using it worked fine for me. However, be aware--the drivers don't necessarily know where they are going, especially because some drivers might be in town from other locations just over the weekend. It would be wise to look at maps and have some idea where you are going in case your driver gets mixed up. Even with GPS things often get confusing as far as directions. ~David On Sun Jan 04 2015 at 1:39:53 PM Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote: No 1. tip for visiting Detroit: Hire a car. If you don’t drive, take someone who does! In terms of places to stay, The Shorecrest is traditional for Memorial Day Weekend, but you probably need to book now. Neighbourhood wise, my travels around Detroit are mainly guided by second hand record shops. I can recommend some if that’s your thing, but if not then worth checking out The Heidelberg Project, Submerge, The Motown Museum, The Charles H.Wright Museum, The DIA and so on. Detroit is a great food city too. Just driving around is good too – there are some stunningly beautiful buildings, particular Downtown and in the immediately surrounding area. *From:* Benn Glazier [mailto:bennglaz...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 04 January 2015 12:07 *To:* 313@hyperreal.org *Subject:* Movement 2015 Hey all, happy 2015. I’m making plans to come to Movement this year. It’s only taken me 21 years to get to Detroit since I joined this list! Wondering if anyone knows of any guides, info, tips for visitors? Neighbourhoods and hotels to check out etc.. thanks *BENN GLAZIER * b...@bennglazier.com / WWW.BENNGLAZIER.COM / @BENNGLAZIER / +44 (0) 7714 300018
Re: Members of the House: The Greatest House Music Band That Never Happened
Speaking of Happy, John Collins at UR has been remastering / editing the Happy stuff and they are being rereleased, I have 3 of these and the records sound really good. Highly recommended if you like soulful house. ~David On Mon Dec 22 2014 at 5:02:15 AM Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: Thanks -- still playing Members of the House and others on Happy and related labels: People Hold On, Keep Pushin', Sunshine, Tuk My Love, all four classics on Happy Trax vol. 3, Got to Give it Up. Unforgettable, timeless stuff . . . Detroit house in the early 1990s is the unknown mother lode -- all this plus KMS, TP, Chez and Ron, Santonio, the unstoppable MK, Shake, many more . . . fh - RBMA track down Mike Banks's forgotten Detroit supergroup, Members Of The House, for an extended chat. http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/magazine/members-of-the-house- interview -- Best, Jeremy As You Like It Founder Executive Producer skype: jeremybispo www.ayli-sf.com
Re: Transmat
Someone feel free to correct me, but I do not think he moved--there are just additional things going on in the building. ~David On Fri Dec 12 2014 at 2:58:10 AM Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Did Derrick move out? http://www.riopelle.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/rioposter.png http://www.riopelle.co/about/ -- | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 | --
UR-085
This is SICK. Clearly, I have been making a mistake by forgetting to checkout what UR is up to. Time to arrange a visit to headquarters!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD4fr9IxlRk#t=148
Re: Mid-Nineties Detroit techno...
Yeah, a lot of stuff from this time period is probably too fast to play out when I DJ. My preferred BPM range is 118-125 unless I decide to do a rare electrobooty set. It's simply better for dancing and funkier at the slower BPM in my experience. ~dp On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:30 AM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: which I always play at -6% because I'm soft as butter and a bit tech house On 14 August 2014 16:29, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Sorry, Evidence of Life - that's the killer one On 14 August 2014 16:27, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: Which one? There are two. Or are you saying both? ;) -- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 16:24:39 +0100 Subject: Re: Mid-Nineties Detroit techno... From: ja...@iridite.com To: jrsokolow...@hotmail.com CC: cybo...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org What about the Shawn Rudiman 12 on 7th City - mind blowing! On 14 August 2014 16:19, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: If you are looking for 7th City you certainly can't go wrong with Shake's Tracks for my Father, the Titonton/Fabrice Lig one, or the New Horizons comp. They are all late nineties though. Elevate is uber pricey but most of the Rick Wade, Theo and Losoul cuts are on other releases that won't break the bank and worth hunting down. -- Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 20:25:30 -0400 Subject: Re: Mid-Nineties Detroit techno... From: cybo...@gmail.com To: 313@hyperreal.org I guess I do know most of these, keep digging... ;-) Convextion is maybe another not mentioned yet, and I'm actually not too familiar with the 7th city catalog or Elevate. Definitely need to check. The two artists I definitely don't know are Stasis, and Nu Era. Oh and good call on the Dan Curtin, in fact Metamorphic in general, I got one of the Morgan Geist records recently (don't recall which), and it's KILLING. And nobody now really knows it, you play stuff that old it's like playing brand new music... Thanks for posting your thoughts everyone. ~dp On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: DJ Bone had a good release (his first) in the 90s. Octave One -I'm a fan of anything and everything they do. And Moodymann's EPs that eventually became Silentintroduction, Dem Young Sconies is my favorite. David, I'm sure you're familiar with that last one, but I've got to include it because I freakin love it so much! Denise On Aug 11, 2014, at 14:24, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Mid-90's is a time period for that I'm not too familiar with. Anyone got recommendations for stuff along the lines of Frictional 001 (Claude Young Changing Factors)? ~David
Re: Mid-Nineties Detroit techno...
I guess I do know most of these, keep digging... ;-) Convextion is maybe another not mentioned yet, and I'm actually not too familiar with the 7th city catalog or Elevate. Definitely need to check. The two artists I definitely don't know are Stasis, and Nu Era. Oh and good call on the Dan Curtin, in fact Metamorphic in general, I got one of the Morgan Geist records recently (don't recall which), and it's KILLING. And nobody now really knows it, you play stuff that old it's like playing brand new music... Thanks for posting your thoughts everyone. ~dp On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 6:06 PM, denisedalph...@gmail.com wrote: DJ Bone had a good release (his first) in the 90s. Octave One -I'm a fan of anything and everything they do. And Moodymann's EPs that eventually became Silentintroduction, Dem Young Sconies is my favorite. David, I'm sure you're familiar with that last one, but I've got to include it because I freakin love it so much! Denise On Aug 11, 2014, at 14:24, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Mid-90's is a time period for that I'm not too familiar with. Anyone got recommendations for stuff along the lines of Frictional 001 (Claude Young Changing Factors)? ~David
Mid-Nineties Detroit techno...
Mid-90's is a time period for that I'm not too familiar with. Anyone got recommendations for stuff along the lines of Frictional 001 (Claude Young Changing Factors)? ~David
Re: japan
As far as Japanese producers, I have been digging on what Fumiya Tanaka has been doing lately. I know Annie Hall (Detroit Underground label) just played at Dommune, looked really fun. ~David On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 5:40 AM, Hans Hans sepias...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear 808, happy anniversary. I'm heading over to Japan for a while. Do you have any particular locations to recommend that might play good stuff? I'm not only looking for clubs but bars or venues in general. Furthermore, I'm interested in record fashion labels... Basically, anything that might be considered 'real' subculture (not only the looks!). I checked out a couple of sets recorded in Japan. So far, what I deemed interesting is: Club Dommune, Record Store Jazzy Sport... Oh and if you know any Japanese producers DJs I'm keen to have a listen, too. Cheers!
decks.de to USA... how are they?
Hi peeps, I think the subject line is self-explanatory. Has anyone used decks.de, and what is your experience? Also, can I expedite shipping or will it be a super long wait for the records? They have things that Juno doesn't have, but the site has such a horrible user interface it's hard to trust them with my money. ~David
Re: Movement/DEMF 2014
I find it interesting that the festival experience is at the point where two people can go and apparently not see any of the same acts! I tend to avoid the bigger stuff now, and more or less stick to smaller parties and events put on by friends, and at the festival (Sunday/Monday evening) basically found little reason to leave the Made in Detroit stage, where the sound was great and the crowd was really good. To be honest, I don't find much need to spend a huge amount of time at the fest or see every act, especially because spending quality time with friends is just as important as What was definitely confirmed for me this year, was that the younger generation: Andres, Norm Talley, Delano Smith, and Mike Huckaby, are definitely at the top of their game right now, all of them are really doing it for me! [Best Set] Norm Talley at Prelude [Highlights] Delano Smith @ Prelude, and Made in Detroit Stage Andres @ Made in Detroit Stage Mike Huckaby @ Made in Detroit Stage Alton Miller @ Motor City Wine San Soda @ Motor City Wine Kevin Saunderson b2b w/ Seth Troxler @ Made in Detroit Stage ALSO: Heard Scott Grooves played great at the Soul Clap party. In my opinion he is BY FAR the most under rated of Detroit producers, and it's my personal mission this year to help ensure he gets some of the recognition he deserves. ~David On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: Had a pretty good time overall, though I mostly stuck to the familiar (and didn't hear all that much of interest walking around). My motto for the festival: Wherever you are, you're at the right place! The Fest --- [exceptional] Timeline Jeff Mills (especially the first 90 minutes) Terrence Dixon's live group (huge surprise, though I hear they were even better at the Tangent) [real good] Monty Luke tINI BMG Dan Bell (Mr. Vocoder :) Delano Adam X [dishonorable] Cheese Wiz Tong The Parties -- [exceptional] Carlos Souffront and Patrick Russell, 2+ hours of unplanned, inspired, over the top mayhem on 2 f#@ked turntables and 2cds @ No Way Back [real good] Jerry Abstract and then Jeedo/Ray (live) @ Synaesthesia/Red Bull Stacy Hotwaxx Hale @ Mix Dwele and the band @ Soul Skate pt 2, Magic Stick [wish I went] GU, Terrence Dixon, Recloose @ Tangent [worst party name] Get Thoughtless [lines even more than too long] St Andrew's speaking of No Way Back,a couple of those in previous years were at the Bohemian National Home. Joel Peterson, who managed shows there until 2008, and Rebecca Mazzei of MOCAD are now running Trinosophes, a new cafe that opened a year ago at 1464 Gratiot (same block as Transmat) which hosted a small party with UR DJs on Saturday. An interesting new community space with eclectic music/etc performances and this wonderful gizmo: http://trinosophes.com/MENTAL-MACHINE
(313) UR is headlining Movement...
Hey, sleepwalkers, am I the only one to notice they book Underground Resistance as headliners? Fantastic, if you ask me. http://www.freep.com/article/20140402/ENT04/304020094/movement-lineup-underground-resistance-detroit Also, in case anyone's interested, I just accepted a position with 1xrun.com, located in the Eastern Market neighborhood of Detroit, and will be moving into the city near my new workplace within the next 6 weeks. ~David
Re: (313) New Records Bandcamp
Thank you for sharing, I am going to buy Claude's album right now, I think it sounds really nice, classic Detroit techno for sure. There is a LOT of great 313 music coming out at this time, despite low list traffic I think it's a great time for Detroit house and techno. I hope anyone who is buying Detroit music can please take the time to mention releases they like here! (maybe people just aren't buying as many records...) ~David On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 5:49 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Thanks for the heads up Brian. Feel it would be rude not to mention Claude Young's new album on bandcamp http://claudeyoungjr-celestialbodies.bandcamp.com/album/celestial-bodies plus a new album from Derek Carr on a space tip ... http://psychonavigation.bandcamp.com/album/derek-carr-binary-son cheers C On 2013-12-19 22:24, Brian Prince wrote: my 13-track LP of Reno/Atlanta/Los Angeles-techno is now only $5 to download ($8 for CD). Terry Mitchell of Timeline Music gave it a very kind review here: http://theelectricunderground.net/eltel/wordpress/?p=10773 [1] Happy holidays, all. -- Brian Prince http://brianprince.bandcamp.com http://www.bprince.com Links: -- [1] http://theelectricunderground.net/eltel/wordpress/?p=10773
Re: (313) EDDIE FOWLKES / DETROIT WAX
My theory is that you can't really be a legend until you're dead. ~David On Wednesday, November 27, 2013, Mike Taylor wrote: It has been my experience that legends generally don't need to tell you that they are legends. On Wednesday, November 27, 2013, kent williams wrote: Haha. Eddie is kinda right. He also got Derrick started on crack-talking. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM, jeremy bispo jbi...@gmail.com wrote: An interesting read. http://testpressing.org/2013/11/eddie-fowlkes-detroit-wax/ This is what a lot of people don’t know about me. I am a legend in Detroit, because everyone will tell you “Fowlkes jumpstarted this whole game of Detroit Techno”. People will tell you that because I had that epiphany from God to start this entire domino effect. A lot of people find that hard to believe, but it is the truth. Kevin understands how he got his career; if it wasn’t for me, he probably would not even be making music. -- Best, Jeremy As You Like It Founder Executive Producer skype: jeremybispo i...@ayli-sf.com www.ayli-sf.com
Re: (313) Return to a free DEMF on July 4th?
Okay, let's not be idealistic. Events of this size and scale are done for money. The logistics and scale are too crazy to justify doing for the love of music. If people want to do an event for the love of music, they find a loft, scrape some money together, and fly in a couple of talented DJ's whose music they believe in. Personally, I have grown to dislike festivals in general, they just do not have a vibe I can get into. I suppose it's okay to help artists get paid well, but at the same time, I tend to lose respect for artists who ONLY play festival size events. As far as this particular festival, the important question is, whether the commercial events have a positive impact on the more underground scene, with good events springing up around the large scale event. This has been the best aspect of DEMF in my view, to the extent that last year I didn't enter the main festival at all, and probably had the most enjoyable DEMF experience yet. ~David On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 10:29 PM, Arturo Lopez arturo.m.lo...@gmail.comwrote: I've always been of the opinion that there are two types of events in our little corner of the music scene: The ones people throw to make money and the ones people throw for the sake of everyone having a good time. One maybe charges enough money that your artists get paid and maybe everyone breaks even. One tries to sell VIP bracelets. I hope it's the former type of event, but I suspect its the latter. -Arturo
Re: (313) New Floorplan
This is looking nice too, Robert Hood Black Technician EP on Music Man,with a Mad Mike remix! http://www.juno.co.uk/products/black-technician/491514-01/?no_redirect=1 ~dp On Thu, Jun 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: The clips on Juno sound ace... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: 27 June 2013 14:53 To: list 313 Subject: (313) New Floorplan Robert Hood has been killing it with the Floorplan EPs, and they're now coming out as a full length album. https://bleep.com/release/44471-floorplan-robert-hood-paradise
Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix
If you are a radio DJ, sure, but from the viewpoint of a serious dance DJ I would definitely would want an edit for these reasons: 1. Most important, at minimum you need to loop up something at beginning and end for mixing into and out of 2. Typical pop song structure is too short for the dance floor, it really makes it's point as quickly as possible and suddenly the song is over. This doesn't create the type of altered state of consciousness you want for dancers; to me dancing is very spiritual and you want music/rhythms that are conducive to attaining a real trance state, without needing drugs. I am not really a big fan of your normal pop music formulate, it's very limiting. 3. For me personally, the chorus is a bit too epic and cheese, I'd prefer to somehow tone it down somehow, filter and otherwise dub it out, and probably would only let it appear once, not multiple times as in normal pop song structure. The verse works for me, but it so clearly leads into the chorus that it probably needs to still occur before the chorus. So, if I was editing it, I would definitely focus on the intro bit, and the bridge with the keyboard solo; that changes it from a pop song into a dance track... 4. The type of production is really a mismatch in a set of house and techno records, basically in terms of the drums. Adding a bit of drum machine really makes it work better on the dance floor. (Remember... This is EXACTLY what the originators of house were doing with some disco records!) Just one man's opinion, I'm sure others disagree, but as someone who has released edits, perhaps the above will explain what it is that drives me to do a bunch of work to alter a song that is already a good song... in a nutshell, the radio pop song form is quite different from the type of form I prefer as a DJ. There might be exceptions when I do play a pop song if I figure out a brilliant way to mix it in, or it's the last song in a set, or for some reason I want to surprise people, but it's not something I would do often. ~dp On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: I must say I think Africa is a classic and doesn't need an edit/remix/whateverjust play the original... From: Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 15:45 To: David Powers Cc: Wibo Lammerts; Daniel Bean; benny blanco®; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix Quite, David. And if you don't like the song in the first place, you have cloth ears and your opinion is worthless! On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I could imagine a Toto Africa edit being decent, actually, I would have to hear it and judge for myself. I am not sure why one would assume it's no good without hearing it? Haven't heard that Quentin REM remix, that one does seem like a stretch; even so, in Quentin's defense, most of his output is pretty good and some of his remixes and PURE GOLD (I am not going to tell you which ones though, that would be to easy)... Nobody knows anything about them and they KILL the dancefloor every time. If anybody hasn't done digging through his back catalog, I would highly recommend it!!! Those are some of my ultimate secret weapons. ~David On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously? An edit of Toto? Really? That's like a Quentin Harris remix of Losing my religion by REM. Which exists, and totally sucks. 2013/6/13 Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk Haha From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:wibo...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 June 2013 15:54 To: Rob Taylor Cc: benny blanco®; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix That's the C2 HypeMachine in full effect, and you fell for it! Shame! ;) 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com the way he described it made it sound awesome! On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: I think I heard that one, a while ago. and it is as bad as one could imagine. 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com speaking of dodgy remixes, Carl Craig was speaking with Joe Muggs in a Resident Advisor podcast recently ( http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?exchange=149 ), and he mentioned a remix/re-edit or maybe even a re-recording of Toto's Africa that he played at London's Plastic People club. I have a soft spot for this tune, so would be curious to find out what he meant. Anyone know? On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, benny blanco® be...@blancodisco.com wrote: I thought this 'tribal' interpretation was pretty blah as well. The new DM Single, 'Soothe My Soul' has an interesting remix take by ZZ Top. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=4bPH2U40jAU benny blanco® blancodisco.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013
Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix
Rob, Laugh all you want, but to me DJing is a HUGE responsibility, it is about connecting to a spiritual tradition thousands of years old. Music has the power to heal, and create very special states of consciousness. It also has the power to create quite negative states of consciousness. If you examine the way traditional musicians in, for example, West Africa view music, you would understand what I'm talking about. I have a friend who is a drummer, from West Africa. He is a griot and is descended from a family of griots. If you don't know, griots are musician/story-tellers, and through music they are responsible for telling the story of their people, as well as healing and other such things. I see the true role of a contemporary DJ as being a modern type of griot. They should tell a story through their records, and connect to history and a deeper tradition through their selection of music. A DJ has an incredible amount of power over their audience. In my opinion, those who don't take such power seriously, have no business DJing. They may actually be negatively impacting the well being of their audience. I do believe that bad music can literally make people sick in a psycho-spiritual sense! ~dp On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com wrote: I am laughing at the idea of a 'serious dance DJ'. On 18 Jun 2013, at 15:56, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: If you are a radio DJ, sure, but from the viewpoint of a serious dance DJ I would definitely would want an edit for these reasons: 1. Most important, at minimum you need to loop up something at beginning and end for mixing into and out of 2. Typical pop song structure is too short for the dance floor, it really makes it's point as quickly as possible and suddenly the song is over. This doesn't create the type of altered state of consciousness you want for dancers; to me dancing is very spiritual and you want music/rhythms that are conducive to attaining a real trance state, without needing drugs. I am not really a big fan of your normal pop music formulate, it's very limiting. 3. For me personally, the chorus is a bit too epic and cheese, I'd prefer to somehow tone it down somehow, filter and otherwise dub it out, and probably would only let it appear once, not multiple times as in normal pop song structure. The verse works for me, but it so clearly leads into the chorus that it probably needs to still occur before the chorus. So, if I was editing it, I would definitely focus on the intro bit, and the bridge with the keyboard solo; that changes it from a pop song into a dance track... 4. The type of production is really a mismatch in a set of house and techno records, basically in terms of the drums. Adding a bit of drum machine really makes it work better on the dance floor. (Remember... This is EXACTLY what the originators of house were doing with some disco records!) Just one man's opinion, I'm sure others disagree, but as someone who has released edits, perhaps the above will explain what it is that drives me to do a bunch of work to alter a song that is already a good song... in a nutshell, the radio pop song form is quite different from the type of form I prefer as a DJ. There might be exceptions when I do play a pop song if I figure out a brilliant way to mix it in, or it's the last song in a set, or for some reason I want to surprise people, but it's not something I would do often. ~dp On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:10 AM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: I must say I think Africa is a classic and doesn't need an edit/remix/whateverjust play the original... From: Rob Taylor [mailto:barringtonphelo...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 June 2013 15:45 To: David Powers Cc: Wibo Lammerts; Daniel Bean; benny blanco®; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix Quite, David. And if you don't like the song in the first place, you have cloth ears and your opinion is worthless! On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 3:31 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I could imagine a Toto Africa edit being decent, actually, I would have to hear it and judge for myself. I am not sure why one would assume it's no good without hearing it? Haven't heard that Quentin REM remix, that one does seem like a stretch; even so, in Quentin's defense, most of his output is pretty good and some of his remixes and PURE GOLD (I am not going to tell you which ones though, that would be to easy)... Nobody knows anything about them and they KILL the dancefloor every time. If anybody hasn't done digging through his back catalog, I would highly recommend it!!! Those are some of my ultimate secret weapons. ~David On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously? An edit of Toto? Really? That's like a Quentin Harris remix of Losing my religion by REM. Which exists, and totally sucks. 2013/6/13
Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix
I could imagine a Toto Africa edit being decent, actually, I would have to hear it and judge for myself. I am not sure why one would assume it's no good without hearing it? Haven't heard that Quentin REM remix, that one does seem like a stretch; even so, in Quentin's defense, most of his output is pretty good and some of his remixes and PURE GOLD (I am not going to tell you which ones though, that would be to easy)... Nobody knows anything about them and they KILL the dancefloor every time. If anybody hasn't done digging through his back catalog, I would highly recommend it!!! Those are some of my ultimate secret weapons. ~David On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Seriously? An edit of Toto? Really? That's like a Quentin Harris remix of Losing my religion by REM. Which exists, and totally sucks. 2013/6/13 Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk Haha From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:wibo...@gmail.com] Sent: 13 June 2013 15:54 To: Rob Taylor Cc: benny blanco®; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix That's the C2 HypeMachine in full effect, and you fell for it! Shame! ;) 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com the way he described it made it sound awesome! On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: I think I heard that one, a while ago. and it is as bad as one could imagine. 2013/6/13 Rob Taylor barringtonphelo...@gmail.com speaking of dodgy remixes, Carl Craig was speaking with Joe Muggs in a Resident Advisor podcast recently ( http://www.residentadvisor.net/podcast-episode.aspx?exchange=149 ), and he mentioned a remix/re-edit or maybe even a re-recording of Toto's Africa that he played at London's Plastic People club. I have a soft spot for this tune, so would be curious to find out what he meant. Anyone know? On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 2:39 PM, benny blanco® be...@blancodisco.com wrote: I thought this 'tribal' interpretation was pretty blah as well. The new DM Single, 'Soothe My Soul' has an interesting remix take by ZZ Top. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=4bPH2U40jAU benny blanco® blancodisco.com On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: No offense intended, but my reaction on first listen to that track is that it is hilariously bad. I can imagine it might work on the dancefloor -- punters on their 5th hour of thrashing about do love to hear something they recognize -- but after the third minute of those claves mixed too high I wanted to shoot the producer. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 3:09 AM, ed612...@iinet.net.au wrote: Found it. Jamie 3:26 sent me the link https://soundcloud.com/polyrhythm-1/personal-jesus-mktl-polyrhythm Thanks anyway guys And DAMN It wasnt David Morales... It was John Morales from NY :):) Haha Peace Ed - Original Message - From: Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com To: Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk Cc: edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au, 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:32:04 -0300 Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix yes it is 2013/6/10 Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk That’s pretty dire. From: Diego Simak [mailto:diego.si...@gmail.com] Sent: 10 June 2013 13:36 To: edward thompson Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xLvArgSp3k 2013/6/10 edward thompson ed612...@iinet.net.au Hi guys, I went to 2 parties today (David Morales during the day and Jamie 3:26 at night and at both gigs Depeche Mode - Personal Jesus remix was played. An absolute dance floor killer of a track. Must be relatively new. Does anyone know what the remix is and who did it? Id say all the big boys would be playing it atm. Peace Ed http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. - -- | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | http://twitter.com/w1b0 | -- -- | http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/wibo/ | http://twitter.com/w1b0 | -- http://www.bbc.co.uk This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your
Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit
Definitely agree! My comments only pertained to trying to obtain SPECIFIC (limited quantity) records that you already know you want. However, rest assured you will find some vinyl goodness at Detroit Threads during festival weekend. ~dp On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:40 PM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: One exception is certainly Detroit Threads. I know that folks like Huckaby, Theo, Kyle Hall, BMG and Juan Atkins personally walk their new releases into the store. These are some of the names the owner of Threads has mentioned to me and I am sure there are many others. They usually get about $5 cash for each 12 before it is sold for a few bucks more on the floor. If you are there at the right time you will see definitely see new Detroit records before they pop up on places like Juno. Then there are the records that are released by Detroit labels for the festival. Many labels have historically timed their new releases to coincide with the festival. You get those in Detroit first. Some of these are also exclusive to Detroit, such as Theo's spray painted Skteches, Deepchord DEMF editions, etc. And then on top of that you have people like KDJ who pull out a box full of mint copies of Shades of Jae and JAN to sell at the festival. When it comes to this time of year, I agree with Darnistle's comment that Detroit is the best place to shop for Detroit techno (and house for me). There is a bunch of new stuff I have been holding out on because I know it can be had there. Cheers, John
Re: (313) Movement, Music and Detroit
Sadly, due to rising costs, poor US market, and poor US distributors, the brutal truth is that most of the best new Detroit records are now ONLY available in Europe; basically, although I live in Chicago, when I want new Detroit music, I order from Juno, Boomkat and Hardwax. I don't even bother checking US stores anymore if I am looking for specific records, though of course I do shop at Gramaphone here in Chicago from time to time as well. It seems that the whole EDM popularity over here has not helped with the US vinyl market for underground house and techno at all. I had hoped that increasing vinyl sales would help things, but I can only assume that the rising popularity of vinyl is limited more to indie rock type music, here in the US... ~David On Thu, May 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM, Richard Hester gwrenc...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Unless you happen to be in Berlin, sad to say...
(313) New Theo Parrish Label
http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=19640 sounds interesting... ~David
Re: (313) KRU Noise Radio 2013-04-20
Hi Andrew, I think all of us producers who are a bit older have experienced this same thing! I just discovered a CD of originals I made in 1999 (some of them with nothing but hardware and cassette four-track). I too was amazed just how ridiculously fast some of the tempos were, and also how hard some of it was generally. ~David On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 8:43 AM, Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks new email address andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote: I'm 44. I'll leave Kent to share his age if he so desires. In explanation: I've mellowed somewhat in terms of the speed of the tempos I produce and mix as I age. Example: I was lucky enough to have a track released on Matrix back in 1995, but quite soon thereafter lost my master and copy of the CD compilation. At the time the song was produced, it was the tempo I was into. I only recently reacquired that CD and I knew, as I was about to first listen to the track in 18 or so years, that it was going to be faster than what I produce/play these days. I figured it would be a bit faster than what I'm playing these days. Well, it was VERY fast. I shudder to listen to it now simply because it is so incredibly fast, it gallops along like some out of control train. Anyway, that's the way I'm feeling now as I get older, I still listen to a huge variety of styles of music, much of it much faster than the music I play on the show, of course, but personally I tend to make and mix music at much much slower tempos than when I was 20 years younger. http://andrewdukeinthemix.com On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Kerr Knoll kerr.kn...@me.com wrote: Well said :) On Apr 24, 2013, at 02:24 PM, Lechowicz, Thomas tale...@pointpark.edu wrote: On the note of age, I'm 21 and thoroughly enjoy the material you guys put out. Regardless of age, a good mix is a good mix. Keep em coming :) From: Kerr Knoll [kerr.kn...@me.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:09 AM To: andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) KRU Noise Radio 2013-04-20 Really? I'm not sure what age has to do with it though I suppose it's more measured with less urgency but no less lively. It's grown-up music. I'm neither young or old either. I'm not sure I can tell that much from music or whether or not it really matters. There's maturity and taste, and that counts. http://k-os.net/music/kerr-knoll http://soundcloud.com/kerr-knoll On 24 Apr 2013, at 02:31, andrewdukecognit...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the kind words. I'm guessing the laid back-ness is likely because Kent and I are both so darn old! ;) http://andrewdukeinthemix.com http://cognitionaudioworks.com On 2013-04-23, at 10:01 PM, Kerr Knoll kerr.kn...@me.com wrote: I note that both Kent and Andrew's mixes are about 2 hours each and filled with quality tracks. Thoroughly enjoyed those too. They are filled with laid-back colourful techno vibes. There are a lot of mixes about but you guys are doing a great job with these and well worth listening too. On Apr 22, 2013, at 02:17 PM, Kerr Knoll kerr.kn...@me.com wrote: We are spoiled for quality mixes today :) Been listening to the Darkwave 11 and thoroughly enjoying it. Looking forward to listening to Kent and Andrew's mixes next. On Apr 22, 2013, at 02:10 PM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: Here you go :) re: The Black Dog; just saw a new DarkWave mix posted; Martin; can you share the link here please? http://www.theblackdogma.com/tbd/2013/04/the-black-dog-darkwave-11/
(313) Derrick May / Carl Craig live show?!
“I’m going to be doing a show,” he answers, when questioned as to the likelihood of returning to production. “It’s going to be here in Detroit, it’s going to be an exclusive performance by myself and Carl Craig. We’re working on it right now, the idea, and we’re going to be playing keyboards and performing live. This is not a pre-recorded computer set, so I have to go back in the studio to do that – there is no way around it. So yes I guess you can say I’m going back in the studio.” *** Also, I actually found the following interesting, and while perhaps a bit convenient for an artist who hasn't produced in years, I see his point: But there is a downside to these rumblings of action, as May explains. “If I was going to do it – go back in the studio full time and really devote myself to it – then I actually would stop playing records, completely. Because in my mind, you can’t play records and then go and make them. It fucks with the creative process. You end up being subconsciously influenced by what you just heard. I never understand these guys who go into the studio and then the next day they’re playing a party. I don’t get it. I don’t like to believe I make music just for the dance floor. If I did I’d be disappointed with myself, I like to believe I make romantic stories, or dark stories. But making something just for the dance floor seems quite contrary.” http://www.beat.com.au/content/derrick-may
(313) Blast from the past...
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Re: (313) history always favours the winners
First of all, it's the opposite, punk was (supposedly) influenced by situationism, which really amounts to nothing more than the fact that the manager of the Sex Pistols appropriated situationist techniques--only I personally think that this appropriation was a clear example of recuperation. Teenage Exhibit 1: I fail to see how not knowing and not caring what one is doing has anything to do with liberation. Compare this to Detroit techno, where, although some artists may not initially have known what they were doing, they most certainly did care, as evidenced by Juan Atkins very successful articulation of Detroit techno as embodying a particular aesthetic approach to musical creation. 'Marcus quotes the musician Paul Westerberg as saying that he became enthralled with the Sex Pistols because “It was obvious that they didn’t know what they were doing and they didn’t care.” That statement is the core belief of all the movements that Marcus explores. He artfully shows that this is not a declaration of nihilism but a striving for liberation from what the Situationists called “The Spectacle.”' http://hcl.harvard.edu/harvardreview/OnlineJournal/HRO_1/reviews/MarcusMcWhirter.html Exhibit 2: Using situationist-looking graphics doesn't make you a situationist. Note how the album covers are eagerly sought after by collectors today--precisely a recuperation within the context of consumer culture. 'Not much later, Reid placed his collage style -- commingling mass media texts with cut-outs -- at the disposal of Malcolm Maclaren, also a King Mob veteran. Maclaren's management -- not to mention his manufacture -- of the Sex Pistols, looks suspiciously like a cynical experiment in Situationist social engineering. Some of the graphics which adorn Sex Pistols album covers (eagerly sought after by collectors today) Reid had previously placed in pro-situ publications.' http://www.primitivism.com/situationism.htm ~David On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:03 PM, Philip McGarva philipmcga...@gmail.com wrote: situationism was punk, see g. marcus 'lipstick traces' :^)
Re: (313) history always favours the winners
All the house guys in Detroit are consistently putting out quality music (your subjective enjoyment may vary of course): Delano Smith Norm Tally Mike Huckaby Rick Wade Rick Wilhite Moodymann Marcellus Pittman Theo Parrish Scott Grooves Kyle Hall Omar S Plus, had good (proper techno) albums from Robert Hood and Terrence Dixon recently. That seems like a pretty high amount of activity as far as I'm concerned. And this list isn't nearly complete. ~David On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Back when 313 list was more active, there were a lot more subscribers actually in the Detroit area, who were wired into what was going on, and would post about it. I imagine there's good music happening in Detroit that we aren't hearing about on this list because that is no longer the case. On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:07 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 4 Mar 2013, at 16:16, Daniel Bean daniel.b...@bbc.co.uk wrote: That was my earlier point way back on this thread. To recap: EDM? Who cares? Not everyone shares that sentiment though. Aye, you can see why people bite and it can be good fun but I'd be more worried about the lack of good tunes coming out of Detroit than anything Sonny or Boy To Noize said. m
Re: (313) history always favours the winners
Martin, good point about the myth of them not being able to play. I do think the DIY aspect of punk was very positive, and that DIY spirit continues to inspire many electronic musicians of all sorts. However, it's interesting to note that DIY approach was actually pioneered by jazz musicians already in the 1950's and 60's, by artists like Sun Ra, Charles Mingus, and the members of Chicago's AACM (Association for the Advancement of Creative Musicians). It does make me wonder if any of the original Detroit techno artists were aware of their predecessors. ~David On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: Talcy Malc did rip off a hell of a lot of dada and situationism but he didn't try to hide it. He tried some of it on the New York Doll but it didn't work or stick. It's interesting that the myth of them not being able to play still continues, Jones, Cook, and Matlock could all play very well. I think the key part about punk for me was that it was about getting up and having a go. Here's the names and addresses of the studio's, pressing plants and venues --- GO m
Re: (313) Party in Tha D
Hey Dave--Pretty sure it's not March 9 yet. ;-) Anyway, I plan on making a trip out to Detroit, we don't get line ups like that in Chicago! Also getting in the studio with some Detroit cats, hoping to make some magic... ~David On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 1:08 AM, DB d...@renegaderhythms.com wrote: Hope it was a good night! On 2/21/2013 1:19 PM, Joe Marougi wrote: Guys, Just a quick note for a record release party Rick and I are throwing for the triple vinyl album, Connecting the Compass on March 9 at TV Lounge. Swing by if u can. Would love to meet most of you :-) Here's the facebook event link: https://www.facebook.com/**events/410670505694640/?ref=**tsfref=tshttps://www.facebook.com/events/410670505694640/?ref=tsfref=ts Regards, Joe
Re: (313) releases of the year
Hi friends, here's my list. 3 ALBUMS ... 1. Ricardo Villalobos, Dependent and Happy (Perlon) 2. Robert Hood, Motor: Nighttime World Vol. 3 [Music Man Records] 3. Delano Smith, An Odyssey [Sushitech] 2 EP's 4. Scott Grooves, The Journey Revisited [available direct from artist] 5. Scott Grooves, Bittersweet / C Track [available direct from artist] ~David On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Aidan O'Doherty aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote: New for U is new to me - track of the year, though? On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: Don't look now but New for U is RA's #1 track of 2012. Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:04:28 + From: aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com To: p...@dagmar-tara.com CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) releases of the year don't be sorry - the more the merrier and tracks there that i would never have thought of - including andres. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: More than 5, sorry, but my fave records this year are; Andres- New For U- played everywhere but still excellent, when Andres played it at the Berghain when I saw him there this year the place went off. The Sun God- Being Hieroglyphic Moodymann- Why do you feel- All 3 track are so so good Daphni-Jiaolong LP DJ Nature- return of the savage- Very Theo in places Vakula-No Music Bad News- Real Bad news Echo 106-Broken hi hat machine Echo 106- Winter Music PSYCHEMAGIK PRESENT - MAGIK CYRKLES- excellent comp -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 December 2012 13:44 To: list 313 Subject: (313) releases of the year so, what would people's top 5 be (actual detroit, detroit-influenced or just plain good)? the new legowelt album on jack for daze sounds rather delectable.
Re: (313) releases of the year
Oh also can't leave out: Norm Talley, Travlin [Landed Records] ~David On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends, here's my list. 3 ALBUMS ... 1. Ricardo Villalobos, Dependent and Happy (Perlon) 2. Robert Hood, Motor: Nighttime World Vol. 3 [Music Man Records] 3. Delano Smith, An Odyssey [Sushitech] 2 EP's 4. Scott Grooves, The Journey Revisited [available direct from artist] 5. Scott Grooves, Bittersweet / C Track [available direct from artist] ~David On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Aidan O'Doherty aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote: New for U is new to me - track of the year, though? On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: Don't look now but New for U is RA's #1 track of 2012. Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:04:28 + From: aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com To: p...@dagmar-tara.com CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) releases of the year don't be sorry - the more the merrier and tracks there that i would never have thought of - including andres. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: More than 5, sorry, but my fave records this year are; Andres- New For U- played everywhere but still excellent, when Andres played it at the Berghain when I saw him there this year the place went off. The Sun God- Being Hieroglyphic Moodymann- Why do you feel- All 3 track are so so good Daphni-Jiaolong LP DJ Nature- return of the savage- Very Theo in places Vakula-No Music Bad News- Real Bad news Echo 106-Broken hi hat machine Echo 106- Winter Music PSYCHEMAGIK PRESENT - MAGIK CYRKLES- excellent comp -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 December 2012 13:44 To: list 313 Subject: (313) releases of the year so, what would people's top 5 be (actual detroit, detroit-influenced or just plain good)? the new legowelt album on jack for daze sounds rather delectable.
Re: (313) releases of the year
o AND last but not least: Anaxander, From the Dirty South... of France [Love What You Feel] ~David On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:43 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Oh also can't leave out: Norm Talley, Travlin [Landed Records] ~David On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:30 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi friends, here's my list. 3 ALBUMS ... 1. Ricardo Villalobos, Dependent and Happy (Perlon) 2. Robert Hood, Motor: Nighttime World Vol. 3 [Music Man Records] 3. Delano Smith, An Odyssey [Sushitech] 2 EP's 4. Scott Grooves, The Journey Revisited [available direct from artist] 5. Scott Grooves, Bittersweet / C Track [available direct from artist] ~David On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:33 AM, Aidan O'Doherty aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote: New for U is new to me - track of the year, though? On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: Don't look now but New for U is RA's #1 track of 2012. Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 15:04:28 + From: aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com To: p...@dagmar-tara.com CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) releases of the year don't be sorry - the more the merrier and tracks there that i would never have thought of - including andres. On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Paul Kendrick p...@dagmar-tara.com wrote: More than 5, sorry, but my fave records this year are; Andres- New For U- played everywhere but still excellent, when Andres played it at the Berghain when I saw him there this year the place went off. The Sun God- Being Hieroglyphic Moodymann- Why do you feel- All 3 track are so so good Daphni-Jiaolong LP DJ Nature- return of the savage- Very Theo in places Vakula-No Music Bad News- Real Bad news Echo 106-Broken hi hat machine Echo 106- Winter Music PSYCHEMAGIK PRESENT - MAGIK CYRKLES- excellent comp -Original Message- From: Aidan O'Doherty [mailto:aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com] Sent: 18 December 2012 13:44 To: list 313 Subject: (313) releases of the year so, what would people's top 5 be (actual detroit, detroit-influenced or just plain good)? the new legowelt album on jack for daze sounds rather delectable.
(313) You know you've finally made it when...
... Forbes does a profile on you as Artist, Producer, DJ and Entrepreneur! Decent interview, although not in a place I'd expect to find it. http://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarawarren/2012/10/08/jeff-mills-artist-producer-dj-and-entrepreneur/ ~David
Re: (313) You know you've finally made it when...
Except that Mills has been in Chicago a long time now. ~DP On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:23 PM, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: Detroit hustles harder and Mills hustles the hardest. Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:57:37 -0500 From: cybo...@gmail.com To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) You know you've finally made it when... ... Forbes does a profile on you as Artist, Producer, DJ and Entrepreneur! Decent interview, although not in a place I'd expect to find it. http://www.forbes.com/sites/tamarawarren/2012/10/08/jeff-mills-artist-producer-dj-and-entrepreneur/ ~David
Re: (313) The Pace - new live act sets
If that's the case, you should really put up some video I'm sure that's some gear working madness that people would enjoy watching! ~David On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote: That's exactly what we do. Empty drum machines and no synth sequences. Guy plays all the keys live and loops them up as he goes, he doesn't start with any patterns, and I use 3 drum machines all empty to begin with. The only thing that is any way prepared are some of the patch banks. On that Plex session we cut off the first couple of loops of the recording where we built up those patterns On 13/09/2012 15:11, kent williams wrote: I'm interested in what you mean programmed played live -- not to doubt your veracity, but for it to be 100% true you'd have to start out with all your drum machine patterns empty, no sequences in sequenced synths, and every set would inevitably start out with some pretty bare initial drum programming. Listening to the Plex set it seems like you start out with some material ready to go. Even Shawn Rudiman -- who is as close to completely live as they come -- has a bunch of midi loops ready to go in an MMT8... On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Matt Chester chesterm...@gmail.com wrote: The main thing I'm working on is 'The Pace', a new live project that I'm doing with Guy Thackeray (DJ Guy, Non Stop DJs, Global Fire). This is a fully live act, with everything 100% programmed and played on the spot, nothing pre-recorded or planned (some more info pasted below) -- matt chester 11th hour recordings www.matt-chester.com
Re: (313) From the mouth of babes...
So, just to put it out there... a lack of seriousness, or any kind of ethos at all, is for me one of the reasons that a lot of recent productions are so shallow and forgettable. I feel that lots of tracks are made for the wrong motives, and it is pretty obvious in the end results. You have a lot of supposed artists who have nothing to communicate, they are just doing it to be popular and try to make money. I think this is a distinct difference from what you see in good dance music, starting with disco. If you look at really good old disco, for example, for me even the party tracks have some substance to them, because coming out of Stonewall and the civil rights struggle, dancing and partying were in a way serious business. People were becoming liberated and in the loft party or disco creating an alternative, more inclusive society. People were also dancing intensely in a way that was liberating their personal energies and allowing them to alter their consciousness, as people also do in West African tribes or in Voodoo rituals. So getting the groove right that would get people dancing all night was really a serious thing, even when the tracks didn't have an obviously serious message. Now of course, I'm talking about the real records not the cheap disco knock off records that were made when the big record companies tried to get a piece of the disco pie for themselves. Then, with house music you have the classic, in the beginning there was Jack speech, which I will always love, because it perfectly balances the humorous (Jack is the one who gives you the key to the Wiggly Worm), with a really important and quite serious idea--Jack is the one that can bring nations and nations of all Jackers together under one house. You may be black, you may be white; you may be Jew or Gentile. It don't make a difference in OUR House. On the other hand, with today's house, the music sometimes degenerates into nothing more than a consumerist soundtrack for snobby rich kids. I also see more and more that people hardly seem to care about dancing, they just drink and talk all night long (though I can be guilty too, this body can't jack like it once did). As far as I'm concerned, when you lose the idea of inclusiveness, and the idea of a liberation from the prevailing ultra-materialistic and still oppressive mainstream culture, the things that made partying something more than just shallow hedonism disappear, and the music made for consumption under these circumstances often has little value and zero substance... Especially when people are not liberating their bodies via dancing but just have the beats going as passive muzak!!! So to conclude, I'd like to see a bit more seriousness in dance music, which isn't to say that we can't laugh at the same time. ~David On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:42 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Didn't we chew over this weeks ago when the Guardian article was published? Rob, UR are serious. They have a coherent artistic and political ideology, and they live in a city where sh*t is very serious. They also make really transcendently good dance music, and you don't have to follow their politics to enjoy it. David Guetta's ideology doesn't get much past cocaine and blow jobs from underage girls. He's a modern day Liberace, except that he can't even play a musical instrument.
(313) From the mouth of babes...
http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/david-guetta-mocks-underground-resistance/ 'For [David] Guetta, dance music’s newfound popularity can only be a good thing. He won’t convince everyone, but few in the industry would deny his phenomenal success in the US has given the industry as a whole a healthy financial boost. “Listen, some people take themselves very, very seriously,” Guetta says. “I’m not a politician, you know what I mean? You remember in the old days you had people like Underground Resistance?” [a late 80s militant dance collective from Detroit]. He pauses and smiles. “I never took myself so seriously.”' WOW. ~David
Re: (313) Re-issue In The Dark: The Soul of Detroit
*All the following is solely my personal completely biased opinion, but I do bill myself as a deep house DJ for what it's worth. Some Deep House artists... Detroit: Rick Wade, Moodymann, Theo Parrish. Also some tracks by Delano Smith, Mike Huckaby, Scott Grooves, Kyle Hall (Ghosten), Omar S (Set It Up). New York: DJ Qu, Fred P, Jus-Ed, BODY AND SOUL type music Chicago (or formerly Chicago): Chez Damier, Ron Trent, Larry Heard There's some good European stuff too, I like labels such as Smallville, Dial, We Play House, Dial, Sushitech, and of course some Rush Hour. My personal opinion, just like techno implies an approach that generally sounds futuristic, sci fi, and uses more synthetic sounds, deep house usually signifies an approach to making records that have more musicality, are open to organic sounds, and often get quite complex in their arrangement--they opposite of super tracky music in most cases, Often deep house records have soulful vocals as well. If Ron Hardy's approach leans toward the techno side, Frankie Knuckles approach would represent the deep house side. Anyway, a deep house DJ isn't going to play only explicitly deep house records. They may play some techy and tracky stuff, but usually there will be lots of disco, jazz, and soul influence. Also, deep house isn't something different from jazzy house, disco house, and microhouse, normally all those things would be included under deep house, unless the production is too ravey or big room, deep house isn't about huge buildups and the like. Also deep house tracks are typically rather long, 6-8 minutes is pretty normal, usually DJ's let those records play out more because they have the musicality to sustain interest over longer time periods. ~David On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 9:03 PM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote: This probably isn't the forum for such a question, but could someone give some examples of deep house in contradistinction to other styles of house? The term seems to be thrown about very often, but I still have no real sense of what deep house sounds like as opposed to (for example) jazzy house or disco house or micro house or whatever.
Re: (313) Re-issue In The Dark: The Soul of Detroit
Hi, Jason, regarding In The Dark: The Soul of Detroit, you said: 'not so long ago you couldn't give music like this away so it's nice to see people rediscovering Detroit House'... Any idea why this would be the case? What has changed, and what do you think made such music undesirable in this time 'not so long ago'? ~David On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jason Brunton irid...@gmail.com wrote: Hi peeps - we did the distribution for this release and I have the pleasure to say that it was one of the biggest sellers of the year - not so long ago you couldn't give music like this away so it's nice to see people rediscovering Detroit House There are some other amazing releases coming on this label too Cheers Jason
Re: (313) Re-issue In The Dark: The Soul of Detroit
Surely that deep house trend is at least five years old, though? I would almost guess that as far as trendiness it's shifting back towards something else again, as far as trends I would say more than deep house the current popular stuff is like 120bpm, and disco type things, lots of stuff with super 80's type synths, and indie rock influenced songs now with non-soul type vocals. ~David On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:06 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: From what I gather the trend in Europe is away from Minimal and Tech House to 'Deep House' -- a term that in context covers a multitude of sins. I think that this has upped the visibility of real house music in general and Detroit House in particular. Even if the mainstream of the new 'Deep House' thing is just tech house with more 707 beats and out of context soul vocal samples, it may be a case of rising water floating all boats. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 11:51 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Jason, regarding In The Dark: The Soul of Detroit, you said: 'not so long ago you couldn't give music like this away so it's nice to see people rediscovering Detroit House'... Any idea why this would be the case? What has changed, and what do you think made such music undesirable in this time 'not so long ago'? ~David
Re: (313) Don't watch that, watch this!
that video is sick! 2012/6/15 ka...@yore-records.com: Jaw lost forever ! this truly is unbeatable. Drop what you're doing and watch this now. Rhythim Is Rhythim - Strings Of Life live at Town Country, Detroit 1989 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HE8x4EZgOos Now pick your jaw back up off the floor. - Greg -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://vibedeck.com/w1b0/ | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 --
Re: (313) Carls Davis AKA Carl Craig
I'm feeling #1, #3, and #6... I will definitely buy this, I play mostly deep house (esp Detroit variety) with a bit of Perlon and Detroit techno type vibes thrown in, so this is just the kind of record that fits in well with my sets. ~David On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 10:31 AM, max tanguay maxb...@yahoo.com wrote: sounds pretty ''straight up machine jam'' to me, i would say that track 1 and 6 are the one that i liked best,, i don think its all that compared to other stuff i heard from him.to be honnest, but its just my opinion peace out net label : pertin-nce.ca me : soundcloud.com/bleupulp From: Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com To: 313@hyperreal.org 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:36:23 AM Subject: (313) Carls Davis AKA Carl Craig New EP; new alias. http://pulseradio.net/articles/2012/05/carl-craig-releases-ep-under-new-moniker
Re: (313) The Giant Salt City 1200ft Beneath Detroit
When I read the subject I assumed somebody made a mixset or record with some sort of Drexciyan style legend about beings living beneath Detroit. I had no idea this existed. It would be fascinating to see these. ~David On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Jussi Lehtonen jleht...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: Don't know if this was posted yet, but here goes anyway. For some reason the page seems to jump to the bottom when loaded. Spotted @ io9. http://www.**environmentalgraffiti.com/**anthropology-and-history/news-** salt-city-1200-feet-beneath-**detroithttp://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/anthropology-and-history/news-salt-city-1200-feet-beneath-detroit Now that might be an interesting place to have a party. Or just to go spelunking to. Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
Re: (313) New Yorker: Sound Machine
Dj Harvey was absolutely amazing when he played in Chicago recently... Highly recommended!!! ~David On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: Glad you mentioned that Patrick. I was going to check it out this weekend. I'll probably just go now to see DJ Harvey - which isn't such a bad thing I guess. Any other 313ers in NYC this weekend up for it? bg *Benn Glazier* b...@glzr.info b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotographyhttp://www.twitter.com/bennglazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 On 23 April 2012 18:28, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the article! Being one of those sad people who missed out on a ticket, I thought i'd treat myself a trip to NYC to go see the exhibit at MoMA PS1 this past Saturday. Man was I disappointed. I assumed incorrectly that there would have been an exhibition of old photos, artworks, memorabilia and whatnot. I quickly learnt that the exhibit was Kraftwerk music vids playing in a big dome. Speakers were sooo distorted that I could only stay in there for a whole of 10 mins. Probably my fault for not researching the exhibit info before booking the 5 hour flight. I really needed a t-shirt that said, I went to the Kraftwerk exhibit and all I got was this lousy T-Shirt. Carry on... -- Patrick Wacher On Sunday, April 22, 2012 at 11:47 PM, Fred Heutte wrote: http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2012/04/30/120430crmu_music_frerejones ? currentPage=all Sound Machine How did a pop band end up in a museum? by Sasha Frere-Jones April 30, 2012 On an August night in 1981, the German band Kraftwerk played at the Ritz, on East Eleventh Street in Manhattan, in support of its latest album, “Computer World.” The only instruments onstage were actually machines: reel-to-reel tape recorders, synthesizers, keyboards, and a calculator. All four members of the group had short hair and dressed identically, in black button-down shirts, black pants, and shiny shoes, which made them look more like valets than like musicians. That didn’t bother them, as they didn’t like the idea of being a band—or even musicians—and often referred to themselves as “operators.” --
Re: (313) Interdimensional Transmissions party
I'm trying to go. I've Heard really good things about Erika's DJing skills actually! ~David On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone going to this? If the airline gods are kind, I'd love to check this out. Claude Young BMG Erika Friday 13th, April http://interdimensionaltransmissions.com/events/2012-04-13/brother-from-another-planet - Patrick
(313) Demf hotel rooms?
Does anyone know how I might find a (non-ghetto) hotel room for DEMF at this point? I didn't think two months is an unreasonable lead time for a vacation, but apparently everything is already all booked up. Not looking to share a room as I have a roommate lined up to split the room with already. ~David
(313) Movement Line Up
Okay, this is better than expected!!! Headliners = Public Enemy :: Lil Louis :: The Wizard http://www.movement.us/?page_id=8 ~David
Re: (313) sistrum
Greetings people, I'm very happy to hear people talking about these labels.
I will second the recommendations Quintessentials, Sushitech, Uzuri,
Third Ear, and all the stuff associated with Qu, Fred-P, Jus Ed, and
Levon Vincent (Underground Quality, but also Soul People Music, and
Strength Music Recordings)... Smallville and Dial are nice as well.
There are also definitely some good things happening with deeper
sounds in Chicago, Hakim Murphy, Specter, Chicago Skyway, and Steven
Tang definitely come to mind. It is a little weird because Chi is so
segregated I only learned that these guys were here making solid music
recently!
~David
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Andrew Green mr.verd...@gmail.com wrote:
Aiden, John,
Funny you sent this today, the same day I received 5 of the Sistrum back
catalogue thru a discogs seller (happy deep days!) Yes, become one of
my favourite labels in the last couple of years and now Im back in to vinyl
im trying to get all the good stuff. Im also a big collector of KW's
Aesthetic Audio. Both labels to to cater for my deep/dub techno and deep
house tastes, evidently merging the two styles effortlessy. Aesthetic
perhaps a bit more of tech-house vibe and more melodic.
In my experience the 2nd hand prices on discogs reflect the quality of the
releases. But a few personal picks here:
Sistrum:
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Underground-Anthems-EP-Vol-1/release/981199
(essential)
http://www.discogs.com/Patrice-Scott-Excursions-EP/release/1793874
http://www.discogs.com/XDB-Espac/release/1233671
Aesthetic Audio:
http://www.discogs.com/Keith-Worthy-Moments-In-Rhythm-Vol-1/release/1800920
(essential)
http://www.discogs.com/Tony-Lionni-The-Chronicles-Noir/release/1570024
http://www.discogs.com/Various-Abstract-Art-Vol-1/release/2743293 (love the
Nick Agha /Climates)
http://www.discogs.com/Miles-Sagnia-The-Sounds-From-The-Abyss-EP/release/1957808
(essential)
Great shout on Altered Moods John, another favourite and i know they have a
slew of new great releases over the coming months.Steve Tang, Specter,
Matthew Wieck, Malcolm Moore and a few new artists too.
This are my pick of the released stuff
http://www.discogs.com/Various-The-Pancake-Sessions/release/1545222
http://www.discogs.com/2DeepSoul-The-Deepness/release/2720300
A few other labels on a similar vibe for me are
Fred P's: Soul People Music
Uzuri
Third Ear
Soul People Music
Ethereal Sound
Quintessentials
ive also become a follower of Anton Zap who's putting out stuff across
various labels. the Anton Zap EP on UQ and I Get No Kick From Champagne are
recommended!
also check out new Russian Label Rawax
I cant really comment on DL's but have sourced a bit of this stuff through
Boomkat
Happy hunting digging
Andy
ps check out my sound cloud for much of this in the mix:
http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings
Andrew Green
83 The Waterfront
Mill Road
Hertford
mr.verd...@gmail.com
07816 373278
On 26 Jan 2012, at 16:07, John Sokolowski wrote:
You had me until you said digital! ;)
I am not sure which of these are available digitally but you should check out
(if you haven't already) the first Underground Anthems record on Sistrum. I
haven't heard everything on that label but it is my favorite so far. The new
one on Emphasis sounds excellent but I don't think it is out yet. Still
familiarizing myself with the older Aesthetic Audio releases although I
picked up Moments in Rhythm #2 in Detroit over the holidays and like it a lot.
Underground Quality has a lot of releases. I think CT Beat Down by Jus-Ed and
the Smallpeople release are very, very good. Altered Moods, Downbeat,
Drumpoet Community, Jersey Underground, and some of the Sushitech releases
are in similar vein.
Cheers,
John
Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 09:41:39 +
From: aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: (313) sistrum
patrice scott's sistrum label is one that i've not paid too much
attention to, to my own cost. i am trying to remedy that now. it's my
flavour of the month at the moment, along with emphasis records (thank
you, bandcamp). any other labels like this that i should be keeping an
eye on - what about aesthetic audio? and underground quality (always
mixing up dj qu and jus-ed)? can anyone point me towards essential
releases from these labels, that are available digitally?
heard a tazz track ('lost' from the world of techno ep) used on a mix
- that's exactly the kind of stuff i'm looking for, if anyone is aware
of it.
regards,
aidan
Re: (313) acoustic jazz strings of life?
Yeah, I checked Can You Feel It, Strings didn't totally work for me, but I was indeed feeling the Fingers cover. I actually have messed around with similar covers here and there, I think that we can expect to hear even more overlap between acoustic and electronic genres in the future. There are some potentially interesting things that have not yet been tried, in my opinion... ~David On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 8:09 AM, Benn Glazier bennglaz...@gmail.com wrote: Pressed send too quickly.., I think Strings is good but not the best on the album. Probably Claire and Can You Feel It are my faves. Well worth a listen and IMHO better than the follow up album. Benn -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 On 20 Dec 2011, at 14:06, Benn Glazier bennglaz...@gmail.com wrote: I thoroughly enjoyed Drum Lesson Vol.1. Saw them play at 10 Days Off in '08 and thought they were one of the best artists I saw there. Benn -- Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 On 20 Dec 2011, at 13:57, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Christian Prommer does dance classics as acoustic jazz Cant decide if it's great or awful: http://www.sonarkollektiv.com/tracks/DE-P96-06-00245/
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. But, why would be people be unlikely to consume it in any manner? I would personally be curious to hear it, as I think D May will always be a great DJ. ~David On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, kuszyn...@gmail.com kuszyn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks for writing up on this. unfortunately, most of us won't be buying it, in fact, few of are likely to consume it in any manner. I generally suspect his last rants at the monetizable DEMF's are the last peeps we hear from this deeply valuable man. Celebrity or not, one of our few folk.
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18
Re: (313) Derrick May - Heartbeat Presents Mixed By Derrick May Ã- Air Vol.2 (CD) at Discogs
I disagree, if you make Detroit inspired music and consider yourself part of the Detroit techno continuum, then you your music is relevant, period. Especially if you are from the Midwest. Times change, people move, and ideas spread across the globe. And Detroit techno now refers to an idea, and to styles of music based on that approach, not We can continue to talk about the work of Detroit artists, as well, but the list has little traffic as it is. There's no reason to adopt a narrow minded definition of Detroit techno, nothing is gained through that. While I think Derrick's a great DJ, he hasn't made music in years, why shouldn't we talk about stuff that people are making now? I say we should definitely congratulate fellow list members for their work getting some real exposure and recognition!!! It used to be musicians supported one another, what happened? This is the whole problem with this list, nobody cares about new music it's like a bunch of grandpas sitting on their porch talking about the good ole days... Which is ridiculous because there has NEVER been a better time for new music, despite the fact that it's terribly hard to make any kind of money at it anymore. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Joe Marougi jmaro...@gmail.com wrote: Yo bro, It's cool if u wanna pimp that cd with your track on it here, but to be honest I think the DMay mix is a bit more relevant based on what this list is all about. Barely anyone ever comments on what I post but I don't get sore about it. It's all good. We're not obligated to comment on each other's stuff. Thanks, Joe On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: You know...we're talking about Derrick May, mix CDs...and all that: FBK and Reel By Real were just featured on a mix by Marcel Dettman called CONDUCTED. as memory serves me correctly, FBK IS a member of this list. From what I know, Derrick May isn't...and based on pushing things forward...I would probably rather buy this. I don't buy CDs...I make thembut I just thought since NOBODY BOTHERED TO say anything about this disc...I guessed I would. Sorry to hijack your thread. FBK Do people buy mix cds anymore? Shoot, I don't know...but the liner notes for this disc are quite interesting... http://www.electronicbeats.net/music/reviews/marcel-dettman-conducted cheers... On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I guess I personally don't know anyone who really buys mix CD's. But you're right, SOMEONE must buy them. I suppose if you're name is big enough, you can sell a lot of anything, and Fabric has a reasonably big name. But with the number of free mixsets available from sites like Resident Advisor, there's already more mixes out there than one can keep up with. I feel like scarcity made mix CD's a big deal in the past. That scarcity is long gone, as anyone who knows how to use google can find mixsets of their favorite DJ's online. And a mix CD does not have the interest for collectors that vinyl has. On the other hand, mix CD's are great for impulse buys, certainly I could see people buying them at a show, though I don't recall anyone other than m-nus doing much in the way of merchandising at their events. ~David On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info wrote: On 25 November 2011 17:11, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mike, I'm trying to figure out what you are saying here? People don't buy mix CD's really any more, as far as I know, so surely that is correct. Hmm.. I can't say Fabric would release mix CDs as a loss leader to promote their club. Perhaps people don't buy them as CDs but purchase them digitally. What drives your perspective on the matter? Benn Benn Glazier b...@glzr.info www.BennGlazier.com www.twitter.com/BennGlazier www.facebook.com/BennGlazierPhotography +44 (0) 7714 3000 18 -- fbk absoloop
Re: (313) T Baby is an Internet phenomenon?
Now I know why producers choose to put every vocal through autotune... ~DP On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 3:53 PM, logic7 log...@cox.net wrote: Yeah, Tha D got clowned a few years ago over this. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 1:22 PM To: list 313 Subject: (313) T Baby is an Internet phenomenon? The beat is pretty decent. They sing the hook in the key of WTF, and verses end in the middle of the loop. It made it onto the resurrected Beavis Butthead... It's So Cold In The D http://youtu.be/aktLRiWXfqg
Re: (313) Silly fanboy collectors question...
You should have him come over and use it to collab on a track... hahaha! ~David On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:58 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: We have Phil Colins old JD 800 :) m
Re: (313) Detroit The Blueprint Of Techno
Carl Craig doesn't like Country Western... :-(
It's interesting to see how overlooked house is in that video, almost
like it didn't exist! Not even a tiny mention of Moodymann...
~David
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. First footage ever of Derrick in (his) studio?
It's probably from around 1999/2000, we - technotourists - were in
Detroit in 1999, and that was at the height of the Sony/UR thing.
Cheers,
W
2011/10/4 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com:
Just noticed this old ('97+/-) documentary on TP's YouTube page:
http://youtu.be/SYSagw7v4dU
Its even got Richie pre-hair.
- P.
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Re: (313) Detroit The Blueprint Of Techno
Actually... you just reinforced my point... He made it sound like
HOUSE is a purely Chicago thing, and techno is what happens in
Detroit. But Detroit producers have made, and continue to make,
brilliant, original house music in their own right. Not just copying
what Chicago did, but doing their own take on things.
That story remains to be told, I think.
~David
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 10:31 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote:
Except of course Terrence Parker spoke about the importance of the
influence of Chicago House on techno.
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:59 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote:
Carl Craig doesn't like Country Western... :-(
It's interesting to see how overlooked house is in that video, almost
like it didn't exist! Not even a tiny mention of Moodymann...
~David
On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote:
Wow. First footage ever of Derrick in (his) studio?
It's probably from around 1999/2000, we - technotourists - were in
Detroit in 1999, and that was at the height of the Sony/UR thing.
Cheers,
W
2011/10/4 Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com:
Just noticed this old ('97+/-) documentary on TP's YouTube page:
http://youtu.be/SYSagw7v4dU
Its even got Richie pre-hair.
- P.
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(313) Walk Like an Egyptian: DJ Qu / Rick Wade in Chicago, Oct. 8
DJ Qu and Rick Wade will head to the Windy City this Saturday for the all-night Walk Like An Egyptian loft party. Deep, raw shades of house music should be the soundtrack for the night. Wade, who grew up in western Michigan just a short drive from Chicago, has been DJing for over two decades, and his extensive production catalog includes releases on Yore and Laid, along with his own label, Harmonie Park. Meanwhile, Qu has been gaining attention in New York over the past few years as part of Jus-Ed's Underground Quality label, while also running his own imprint, Strength Music Recordings. It's a rare Chicago appearance for both DJs. Support for the out-of-towners comes from a trio of artists from the local Klectik imprint: Jason Patrick, Max Jacobson and Dave Powers. The location has not yet been revealed, so check the event page for more information as the weekend approaches. http://www.residentadvisor.net/news.aspx?id=14986 ~David
Re: (313) Skudge Phantom
Good tip I'm going to buy some of their tracks... Hadn't heard of
them. I play slower bpm and I like my techno deep and slower these
days, but it's hard to find--this fits the bill perfectly though!
I must say, the name Skudge made me think I was in for some of that
really bad bro-step floating around the US these days, luckily that
wasn't the case... ;-)
Also, why do you call it tech-house? This is purist techno, I don't
hear any house whatsoever. House is a feeling in the music, just
because the bpm is slower doesn't suddenly make it house!!!
~David
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 11:03 PM, darnistle darnis...@cafe-ebola.com wrote:
I've really been enjoying this album a lot. The style is very Detroit to my
ears (Robert Hood comes to mind), so I was surprised to learn that they're
from Sweden.
Very good midtempo technohouse to wiggle to, though the nuances can get lost
easily if the volume isn't reasonably high.
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Re: (313) The Techno Monster Mix
Strongly agree... especially from the viewpoint of dance music, some tempos are too fast, unless you are going to jit or breakdance or something... but that type of dancing, while fun, is not necessarily good for bringing groups of people together and creating some type of group consciousness that is bigger than the individuals. (Although, I did play a Detroit electro / ghettotech set at like 145 that was uber fun the other day at a friend's house party--amazing how well those records aged everything I played sounded great still). For me there is without question a spiritual component to music, and I think that for the best spiritual vibe on the dancefloor, a vibe that people can connect with regardless of whether they have ingested intoxicants or know how to breakdance, 118-128 bpm is really where you want to be. Even within that spectrum, these days for me it's actually often a lot closer to 118 than 128. This means, unfortunately, it's hard to play most actual Detroit techno. Of course, to me house and techno are a continuum and the Detroit house I play often still has that Detroit techno influence even if it would normally be sorted into the house bin. ~David On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 4:37 AM, Aidan O'Doherty aidan.b.odohe...@gmail.com wrote: as i get older, i find it harder and harder to listen to nose-bleed inducing bpms. it just sounds wrong to my ears now. thankfully, most detroit techno ain't that fast, or sounds grand slowed down. good to see jamie read on the tracklist. love LHAS and his album on fragmented On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Placid pla...@acid-house.net wrote: Essentially records which I have but have not yet managed to put into a mix as they are either too fast or too bonkers or a combination of both. Naturally, my idea of bonkers and yours may vary, but I can only go by my own bonkers induced reality and upload the result. Looking back, theres only a couple I'd class as full on monsters, but the not so full-on are blooming fast… oddly enough i still ended up playing them at about -4, the thought of hearing them on 0 or + anything baffles me.. anyway enough warbling.. mix is here - http://www.acid-house.net/technomonsters.mp3 Basic Channel – Phylyps Trak - Basic Channel Aphex Twin – Aboriginal Mix - White DJ ESP - Fresh Air - Generator Sterac - promo Dark Comedy – Clavia's North - Art of Dance Sympletic – Noname (Remix) - Ifach Planetary Assault Systems - Forms - Peacefrog The Memory Foundation - m-Plant Anthony Shakir - The Random Hustle - Dust Science Mystic Rythem – Track Relaxer - Peacefrog Woody Mcbride - Rattlesnake - Magnetic North Jamie Read – Vibe Nations - Ugly Blake Baxter - Vision of Truth - UR The Source - Untitled - RS Basic Channel – Octaedre - Basic Channel plank promo 003 i think Monolake – Cyan - Chain Reaction Indio - Blue Fantasy - Transmat Jeff Mills - Untitled - Axis Like a Tim - Avanger - Djax-up-beats Nico - Withdrawl - ESP Perfect Sync - Down the Deep Paresys – Untitled - Re-Load Mike Henk – Untitled - Pulsar Done in one hit on 2xtechnics 1210s - approx 2 hours (just under) @320 kbps 280mb. FOr more infos, gigs and musics - like me - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Placid/191249620933551 enjoy
Re: (313) [EVT][Portland] Claude Young - Brian Zentz - The Mitchell Brothers - Sept 3, 2011
I don't blame him for not wanting to play festivals, those giant festival sets are always the most boring and dumbed down sets that DJ's do--and anyone who knows me knows I like things as deep as possible these days. Definitely takes guts to turn down the cash though, I have a whole new level of respect for Claude! ~David On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 3:15 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: There's an excellent Claude interview on the Resident Advisor site: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1398 I definitely miss the days when Claude stayed in Glasgow (from the little I remember of them) - every time I left his flat (he stayed just around the corner from me) I had a BAG of Detroit gossip and incendiary stories- none of which I could ever remember when I woke up the next day unfortunately :) He says at the end: I don't think I'll ever go back to the point where I want to do festivals. Financially it would be fantastic, but that would put me in a situation where I'd have to play records I don't want to. I'd much rather play the back rooms and be free. You know, you meet a lot of DJs—the really big ones—and they're kind of characters. I'm the farthest away from a character you can get. When you see Derrick May there is something iconic about the way he carries himself. He's an artist. I'm not really like that. I'm just a tech geek who does music. That's my thing. I think he does himself a MAJOR disservice here - Claude is definitely an artist and a character - maybe if he'd seen Derrick May's truly pitiful set at last years Bloc Festival he wouldn't hold himself in such low esteem! cheers Jason On 2 September 2011 20:44, John Sokolowski jrsokolow...@hotmail.com wrote: That was brilliant. Claude and Shawn played off each other amazingly. They went on early. Then it was the tequila :) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2011 21:05:48 -0700 From: the...@gmail.com To: chaircrus...@gmail.com; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) [EVT][Portland] Claude Young - Brian Zentz - The Mitchell Brothers - Sept 3, 2011 exactly! On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:36 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I was mostly sober. It was brilliant. You know how Jazz players can just work into the cracks of each others' grooves? That was Sean and Claude. On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Matt Kane's Brain mkb-pr...@hydrogenproject.com wrote: This happened once before. (at a DEMF pre party) I don't remember much except about the tequila. 8) On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 21:17, Kevin Kennedy the...@gmail.com wrote: SEPTEMBER 10TH IN PITTSBURGH IS GOING TO BE ABSOLUTELY NUTS! Shawn Rudiman AND Claude Young in the same room? I don't think I can miss this:) -- matt kane's brain http://hydrogenproject.com -- fbk sleepengineering/absoloop US
Re: (313) Lets start some old topics
Okay, here's some controversy. In my (quite serious) opinion, THE most INFLUENTIAL and IMPORTANT Detroit techno artist is ... wait for it... MOODYMANN. I'm not joking, it may be considered house, but I think that the way Moodymann records are mixed and structured is quite forward thinking, and maybe the blueprint for things a lot of producers all over the world now are doing, but certainly were not doing when moodymann started doing his thing. Jeff Mills also has done some really forward thinking things with arrangements and mixing, but that aspect of his output hasn't really been that influential in comparison to Jeff's DJ style and his trackier side. The greatest Moodymann record of all time for me is actually recent by the way... it's 2 late 4 u and me!!! Discuss... ;-) ~David
Re: (313) Legowelt - The Teac Life
Yes, I second this... Great stuff!!! On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:15 PM, Ivan Tomasevic to...@tesla.rcub.bg.ac.rs wrote: new album available at www.legowelt.com sounds nice --
Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA
Motor City Drum Ensemble is AMAZING though, and his sound is actually rooted in Detroit music. Plus he plays 313 tracks, check out the DJ-Kicks tracklist: http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/dj-kicks/id442897889 . Rob Hood and Recloose in there, also some love for Chi, Sun Ra, Rick Poppa Howard and Mr. Fingers in the mix... But here is what MCDE himself has to say--ya'll can judge for yourselves! http://www.beatportal.com/feed/item/interview-motor-city-drum-ensemble/ Interviewer Why Detroit? MCDE For me it’s just a big fascination, I know a lot about the history of the records and music that was before such as Motown and jazz labels like Strata, not only the techno and house history. In this music you can hear the struggle of people trying to survive, social issues, before there were human rights for everybody. You can hear so many emotions. I’ve never heard so many emotions as I have from the tracks of Detroit. The fascination of Detroit, is one thing that some people think, because I am white and from a suburban wealthy German city, I don’t really have the right to comment on how things were there, because I’ve never been there. But I can hear so much of that social struggle in the music and it fascinates me deeply. I mean I can’t say I’m a black guy, but it’s not about race. I’m not a poor guy having to struggle, every human being has everyday struggles, for me the best way to express them is through music. I’m not saying I have the same hard times but I can identify with the emotions in the music from Detroit. Music was the only shelter and rescue people had, for me this is something that I want my music to convey and to achieve. Every time I travel I can see not only the good things I can also see what is wrong in society and what should be different and then you hear this music where it can be so touchingly beautiful and being thankful for life and joy. ~David On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 8:04 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: I would like you to expand on the idea of Detroit being 'hyped.' Do you mean the stories on US media that come up every few months on slow news days about the 'sorry plight of detroit' with stock footage of ruins? Or... What vexes me is musicians who use Detroit as a touchstone without any real appreciation for the music, or ever having visited. Exhibit A Fedde Le Grand's Put Your Hands Up For Detroit. And I don't know the guy's music at all but 'Motor City Drum Ensemble' doesn't seem a good name for a german producer. OTOH he is from Stuttgart... On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 2:43 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: I am more impressed with this Real Scenes piece than I expected to be. The real story of Detroit is a lot more interesting than the hype, if you ask me. fh - What a wicked, wicked post. I totally agree. I've sensed the same thing about Mr. Huckaby for a few years. But of course, I've not articulated it as well, even to myself. Ken --Original Message-- From: Kent Williams To: Jeff Davis Cc: 313@Hyperreal. Org Subject: Re: (313) As I'm sure most of you heard: Real Scenes: Detroit RA Sent: 11 Aug 2011 15:43 Mike Huckabee's educational work is amazing. He's a guy that, unlike many of his peers in Detroit, stayed in Detroit and dedicated himself to keeping it a vital center for musical innovation. He did it, I believe, at a personal cost. If all he cared about was making money and becoming famous, he could easily have moved to Berlin, gotten a good booking agent, and hooked up with European labels. I don't mean to criticize the people who have taken that path -- if it works for them it's fine -- but there's no denying that moving away changes their music. Instead he's stayed true to the city, true to his own music, and perfected the art of DJing. And he's taken direct action to help the young people of Detroit, who face serious obstacles to finding a place in the world. I admire a lot of Detroit musicians, and certainly isn't alone in his commitment to Detroit. In particular Underground Resistance and Submerge have demonstrated a deep and sustained commitment to the people of Detroit. There are others but to list them is to risk leaving someone out. What really makes me return again and again to the music that comes out of Detroit isn't a particular style, it's the deep, clear-eyed emotion and soul that infuses the best Detroit music. Music can point to itself, it can reflect listeners' aspirations back on them, it can start a party. Or music can do all that, and point up and out of itself. It can make you think about the world in a different way. On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 6:55 AM, Jeff Davis j...@jeffreyjdavis.com wrote: I left this vid having even more respect for huckabee than I did before Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
(313) Need help--online promotions of music
Has anyone had any luck promoting digital releases online? I've got a new release on beatport, but as if this point in time, all the usual channels (email lists, facebook, forum posts) seem to generate very low interest. I'm very proud of this release and think it's as good as anything out there right now! But getting noticed in 2011 appears to be impossible as far as I can tell... So do you simply have to be rich and spend huge wads of cash to get noticed? (that's my theory--it's all a rich kids game!) Anyone who wants to weigh in, online or offline, please give me your thoughts!!! I do have an upcoming net release on a major website that should generate some thousands of downloads, which I hope may generate some new listeners. But I'm not sure what else to try at this point. From my point of view, it feels like the internet has turned into a giant crappy stripmall and I've got a storefront in some horrible, out of the way location!!! Oh, I will admit that there are some things that I still haven't gotten to that are in the works, like finishing my own site with good SEO content, that should at least drive a little bit of google traffic. Also, I may have mentioned this, but I will be starting a music blog in the next month, that will PRIMARILY be covering deep house from Chicago, Detroit, and NYC/east coast... So stay on the lookout for that!!! ~David
Re: (313) Need help--online promotions of music
Okay, I think you all misunderstood my question. I'm not trying to get SALES... I'm just trying to get BUZZ / conversations started. I just want people to listen to the music! There is so much music out, even getting someone to spend 5 minutes listening to your stuff is almost impossible now. What I'm really looking for are INTERACTIONS, which I measure two ways: forum post views, and actual responses via forums, email, and social networks. I do know that de:bug will be reviewing the release, so that should be good. Getting sales is the label's job... honestly, even vinyl that I released that I know did sell, never made me a dollar, as most vinyl releases seem to have expenses equal to the cost of creation. ___ By the way get your music to more djs is obvious... but HOW? I've sent emails / fb messages with little success. I will say Akbal Music did a great job, getting the release to DJ Sneak, Loco Dice, Hawtin, etc... But I would like to make some direct connections and not only have my connections only exist through the label. As far as releasing more, I have a lot of music but my past releases haven't done much for me so I'm not sure that in itself, releasing does much good. I have come to the conclusion that releases need to fit into some bigger plan to be of much benefit. ~David On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Minto George mintogeo...@yahoo.com wrote: Get your music to more djs and release more music. That is primarily how you generate interest in the digital market. Combine digital releases with vinyl (even limited runs). As long as you have music people are genuinely interested in, it will sell. good luck, minto@dL On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone had any luck promoting digital releases online? I've got a new release on beatport, but as if this point in time, all the usual channels (email lists, facebook, forum posts) seem to generate very low interest. I'm very proud of this release and think it's as good as anything out there right now! But getting noticed in 2011 appears to be impossible as far as I can tell... So do you simply have to be rich and spend huge wads of cash to get noticed? (that's my theory--it's all a rich kids game!) Anyone who wants to weigh in, online or offline, please give me your thoughts!!! I do have an upcoming net release on a major website that should generate some thousands of downloads, which I hope may generate some new listeners. But I'm not sure what else to try at this point. From my point of view, it feels like the internet has turned into a giant crappy stripmall and I've got a storefront in some horrible, out of the way location!!! Oh, I will admit that there are some things that I still haven't gotten to that are in the works, like finishing my own site with good SEO content, that should at least drive a little bit of google traffic. Also, I may have mentioned this, but I will be starting a music blog in the next month, that will PRIMARILY be covering deep house from Chicago, Detroit, and NYC/east coast... So stay on the lookout for that!!! ~David
Re: (313) Need help--online promotions of music
Yes, it is... here is the same info I posted yesterday! ;-) [Akbal051] - Max Jacobson Dave Powers: K-Oates New release on Akbal Music out of Playa del Carmen, Mexico! Release date, July 18, 2011. http://www.beatport.com/release/k-oates/394476 K-Oates / 120 BPM. Deep House. Sheila Don't Love Me / 118 BPM. Tech House. ___ What the so called Disc Jockeys are saying... DJ Sneak: i likes very much. nice oates redo. Solomun: top ! :) full support ! Bloody Mary: will play for sure Loco Dice: Coool one WAV please D Matt Star: nice ep on akbal music Wink: Some fun summer time boot-legish tools! Love bizarre- fun! Franck Roger: I THINK I GO FOR THAT On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I wonder if your release is available for listening in beatbort. If it is available can you post here the link? Thank you Diego 2011/7/19 David Powers cybo...@gmail.com Okay, I think you all misunderstood my question. I'm not trying to get SALES... I'm just trying to get BUZZ / conversations started. I just want people to listen to the music! There is so much music out, even getting someone to spend 5 minutes listening to your stuff is almost impossible now. What I'm really looking for are INTERACTIONS, which I measure two ways: forum post views, and actual responses via forums, email, and social networks. I do know that de:bug will be reviewing the release, so that should be good. Getting sales is the label's job... honestly, even vinyl that I released that I know did sell, never made me a dollar, as most vinyl releases seem to have expenses equal to the cost of creation. ___ By the way get your music to more djs is obvious... but HOW? I've sent emails / fb messages with little success. I will say Akbal Music did a great job, getting the release to DJ Sneak, Loco Dice, Hawtin, etc... But I would like to make some direct connections and not only have my connections only exist through the label. As far as releasing more, I have a lot of music but my past releases haven't done much for me so I'm not sure that in itself, releasing does much good. I have come to the conclusion that releases need to fit into some bigger plan to be of much benefit. ~David On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Minto George mintogeo...@yahoo.com wrote: Get your music to more djs and release more music. That is primarily how you generate interest in the digital market. Combine digital releases with vinyl (even limited runs). As long as you have music people are genuinely interested in, it will sell. good luck, minto@dL On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone had any luck promoting digital releases online? I've got a new release on beatport, but as if this point in time, all the usual channels (email lists, facebook, forum posts) seem to generate very low interest. I'm very proud of this release and think it's as good as anything out there right now! But getting noticed in 2011 appears to be impossible as far as I can tell... So do you simply have to be rich and spend huge wads of cash to get noticed? (that's my theory--it's all a rich kids game!) Anyone who wants to weigh in, online or offline, please give me your thoughts!!! I do have an upcoming net release on a major website that should generate some thousands of downloads, which I hope may generate some new listeners. But I'm not sure what else to try at this point. From my point of view, it feels like the internet has turned into a giant crappy stripmall and I've got a storefront in some horrible, out of the way location!!! Oh, I will admit that there are some things that I still haven't gotten to that are in the works, like finishing my own site with good SEO content, that should at least drive a little bit of google traffic. Also, I may have mentioned this, but I will be starting a music blog in the next month, that will PRIMARILY be covering deep house from Chicago, Detroit, and NYC/east coast... So stay on the lookout for that!!! ~David
Re: (313) Need help--online promotions of music
Chicago and Detroit I do know tons of newer people in the scene... but NYC, San Fran, LA... not to mention Berlin, Barcelona, and ??? wherever in the world... that's what I'm trying to figure out. The market isn't that big and so I'm trying to have a global perspective, but honestly it's not so easy when you're stuck in the middle of the US. I know the music people are releasing, but not much else about what goes on besides what RA reports. I know kids with money just FLY over there and make stuff happen in person! Clearly the best way, but it would require tons more money than I currently have. If I was going to take a trip outside of the US to promote my music, would anyone recommend where to go? Bear in mind, I also play jazz and classical piano, so added bonus if there is a good live music scene (chicago is terrible for live music now). ~David On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:45 AM, David Smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: I remember when it was easy to single out new local releases in brick mortar Detroit record stores. A few weeks ago I visited the Dance-zone on Gratiot and the record sales were so slow the clerk kept the door locked, lights off and only opened by request. At this point you are correct about the market being saturated; perhaps seek out newer digital local scenes within the midwest. In Grand Rapids it seems like the most successful is whoever is the most social and the 616 veterans are fading into obscurity along with all the old school drama that's kept many down. Just saying: tons of new kids out there downloading music but I still think the best way to connect with them is by going to events and partying, lots of newer scenes in between Detroit and Chicago now. DS On Tue, 19 Jul 2011 12:02:55 -0400, David Powers wrote: Yes, it is... here is the same info I posted yesterday! ;-) [Akbal051] - Max Jacobson Dave Powers: K-Oates New release on Akbal Music out of Playa del Carmen, Mexico! Release date, July 18, 2011. http://www.beatport.com/release/k-oates/394476 K-Oates / 120 BPM. Deep House. Sheila Don't Love Me / 118 BPM. Tech House. ___ What the so called Disc Jockeys are saying... DJ Sneak: i likes very much. nice oates redo. Solomun: top ! :) full support ! Bloody Mary: will play for sure Loco Dice: Coool one WAV please D Matt Star: nice ep on akbal music Wink: Some fun summer time boot-legish tools! Love bizarre- fun! Franck Roger: I THINK I GO FOR THAT On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, I wonder if your release is available for listening in beatbort. If it is available can you post here the link? Thank you Diego 2011/7/19 David Powers cybo...@gmail.com Okay, I think you all misunderstood my question. I'm not trying to get SALES... I'm just trying to get BUZZ / conversations started. I just want people to listen to the music! There is so much music out, even getting someone to spend 5 minutes listening to your stuff is almost impossible now. What I'm really looking for are INTERACTIONS, which I measure two ways: forum post views, and actual responses via forums, email, and social networks. I do know that de:bug will be reviewing the release, so that should be good. Getting sales is the label's job... honestly, even vinyl that I released that I know did sell, never made me a dollar, as most vinyl releases seem to have expenses equal to the cost of creation. ___ By the way get your music to more djs is obvious... but HOW? I've sent emails / fb messages with little success. I will say Akbal Music did a great job, getting the release to DJ Sneak, Loco Dice, Hawtin, etc... But I would like to make some direct connections and not only have my connections only exist through the label. As far as releasing more, I have a lot of music but my past releases haven't done much for me so I'm not sure that in itself, releasing does much good. I have come to the conclusion that releases need to fit into some bigger plan to be of much benefit. ~David On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Minto George mintogeo...@yahoo.com wrote: Get your music to more djs and release more music. That is primarily how you generate interest in the digital market. Combine digital releases with vinyl (even limited runs). As long as you have music people are genuinely interested in, it will sell. good luck, minto@dL On Jul 19, 2011, at 10:20 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone had any luck promoting digital releases online? I've got a new release on beatport, but as if this point in time, all the usual channels (email lists, facebook, forum posts) seem to generate very low interest. I'm very proud of this release and think it's as good as anything out there right now! But getting noticed in 2011 appears to be impossible as far as I can tell... So do
Re: (313) New Free Download Album from DJ Jazzy Jeff Ayah
The sample is: Freddy Hubbard, Little Sunflower http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbj-SIoN6EUfeature=related Also used in a Theo Parrish Ugly Edit On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Callum MacGregor callum.macgre...@gmail.com wrote: Isn't the sample hook the same one as in Pepe Braddock Deep Burnt ? - dunno if it's on a Detroit track too but could that be the track you mean? enjoying the album though.. nice summer vibe, reminds a bit of Jill Scott :) 2011/7/18 kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com I mention it not just because it's a well produced, enjoyable album but because it reminds me of Detroit Deep House in places. In fact if you check 'One Life' it uses the same sample hook as a Detroit track that I can't quite place, but I'm thinking 'Moodyman' For that matter, 'Make It Last' samples a big chunk of 'What's Going On' by Marvin Gaye, a Detroit artist if there ever was one. I don't like this as much as other stuff on this CD, because it's one of those positive-vibey love songs, and 'What's going on' is one of those songs that can make me cry. It's not terrible, it just feels like it trivializes the source material. As for Ayah, I like her voice a lot. She reminds me a bit of Erykah Badu, but she's smoother and less quirky. -- Callum MacGregor www.pact.co My hope is to leave the world a bit better than when I got here. - Jim Henson
(313) New Release on Akbal Music, Akbal 051 K-Oates
Hi everyone, for the deep house cats on the list, you might want to check out my new release with Max Jacobson (Detroit-Chicago). Since we both lived in the Detroit area, and have been strongly influenced by Detroit music, I don't feel bad promoting this here. K-Oates Dave Powers, Max Jacobson 8:09 / 120 BPM Deep House Sheila Don't Love Me Original Mix Dave Powers, Max Jacobson 6:59 / 118 BPM Tech House http://www.beatport.com/release/k-oates/394476 ___ What the so called Disc Jockeys are saying... Solomun top ! :) full support ! Bloody Mary will play for sure Loco Dice Coool one WAV please D Matt Star nice ep on akbal music Wink Some fun summer time boot-legish tools! Love bizarre- fun! Franck Roger I THINK I GO FOR THAT DJ Sneak i likes very much. nice oates redo.
Re: (313) OK Kent, I see your point
Just to complicate things... even the producers may not understand the meanings behind their own songs! Because things have a history, they may use elements but not understand the history or the roots behind them. Sound and Rhythms also have a spiritual power, different sounds are conducive to different states of consciousness for listeners and dancers. Not many DJ's or producers have a clue about this! You have to understand the link between music and shamanism to understand this part of the sound... But it is extremely important. When used properly music is a tool for healing and spiritual evolution. ~DP On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/7/6 Thor Teague thor.tea...@gmail.com Music is its own meaning... there is no need for it to be this or be that, if you choose to let it simply be. Nobody dances to a destination. The point of the dance is the dance. I know what you mean, in fact it was over the table when I had the discussion. It is just DANCE music, so just dance it But somehow, It has some meaning the other point of view. Yes you just dance this song or another, It has some groove and other things, but are you aware of the meaining and the reasons of that song? Maybe i'm getting some complicated with this point but I feel nowdays that all the things should be done with a sense of responsibility and therefore be honest with your cultural legacy. I don't think you can understand the SOCIO-POLITICS behind it without at least living there for a few years, if not being from there. I agree with that. But that only has as much meaning as you choose to attach to it. ~T On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Diego Simak diego.si...@gmail.com wrote: What do you guys think about this? Is possible for a person that had born outside Detroit and US, correctly understand the real meaning of Detroit Techno?
Re: (313) Deep Mix: A Void
since nobody talks about the music any more might as well talk about plugins right?! RIP to all mailing lists everywhere. the death of lists has left a VERY large void as far as i am concerned!!! ~David On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:52 PM, G. Jones log...@cox.net wrote: true that this isn't the place (RIP to 313Techknow), however, it's good info that I'll be taking a look at. -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 10:00 AM To: G. Jones Cc: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com; list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: A Void Not that this is really the place to discuss VST plugins but... Waves plugins are quite expensive and (I would argue) a real pain to use because of their copy protection. The W1 limiter is a carefully coded clone of the Waves L1 Limiter, and it's free. On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 11:24 AM, G. Jones log...@cox.net wrote: hmmm... so W1 is nice eh? Maybe I've had my head in the land of Waves plugins for too long... -Original Message- From: kent williams [mailto:chaircrus...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 9:15 AM To: 3...@coke-smyth.net; mr.verd...@gmail.com Cc: list 313 Subject: Re: (313) Deep Mix: A Void http://www.cornwarning.com/xfer/Verdant-A_Void-Mix.mp3 Gone on a diet - 192kbs MP3 -- 153mb. Oh, and Andrew there was a LOT of headroom on that mix, so I jacked up the volume, without messing with the dynamics. One thing that DJs who aren't dyed in the wool studio rats don't do is a bit of after the fact mastering. I don't believe in messing with the sound much,as you're playing other people's productions which have been mixed and mastered to their satisfaction already. But it never hurts to get things pushed up to normal commercial volume levels. A gift to the world is the W1 limiter. This is a 'brick wall' lookahead limiter. You just look at your waveform and pull down the threshold so it cuts a few DB off your biggest peaks. Most of the time it will be completely transparent, and just raise the average level so you don't have to max out the volume to hear it on the subway. http://www.yohng.com/software/w1limit.html http://www.betabugsaudio.com/plugs.php It's also a great plug-in to drop on drum tracks to get them embiggened. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:04 AM, 3...@coke-smyth.net wrote: Tracklist looks good, but at 550mb its too expensive for my connection. :( C My first time sharing a mix on here but i reckon this one stands up to closer inspection. I've actually been sharing higher tempo mixes on my sound cloud space for a while and share more experimental and ambient stuff on my own site. Dub and Deep House/Techno i guess. Older and newer stuff, some of which I treated myself to for my birthday last week. Hopefully I'll come back to this later in life and remember the stuff I really liked when I was forty ..something. http://soundcloud.com/verdant-recordings/a-void Monolake /Void (Imbalance Computer Music) Zzzzra /Ennio Profundo (Optic_Remix) (Sublime Port Netlabel) Delta Funktionen /Estuary (Ann Aimee) Nick Sole /Contigo (Mojuba) Benny Brunn / Stay Hungry Stay Foolish (Bine) Haventepe /Air (Styrax Leaves) Conforce /Spoiled (XDB Remix 2) (Clone Basement Series) Gerd /Time Space (Duplex North Side Remix) (Clone Basement Series) Donato Dozzy /United Elements (Lan Music) Substance /Inversion (Scion Versions) Ribn /Mined (Millions of Moments) Tob Jona /Metro 501 (a.r.t.less) Untitled /Madteo (Workshop) Deepchord /Sofitel (Soma) Freund Der Familie /Sark (Sven#8217;s Short Range Mix) (FdF) Alton Miller /Deep In My Soul (Peacefrog) Black Jazz Consortium /Deep Love (Soul People Music) Sven Weisemann /Kiss of Abama (Mojuba) Move D /Jus House (Uzuri) enjoy and feedback always welcome. good bad or indifferent. thanks for listening verdant-recordings June 2011 www.verdant-recordings.com Andy
(313) New Red Planet / Ron Trent Record Store
1. Just in case you all have forgotten... It may not seem that way cus the list is dead, but right now there is AMAZING Detroit music of all kinds being put out. I've become more partial to deep house these days, but I must mention the new Red Planet, The Martian Techno Symphonic In G RP-14, I think it's fantastic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvnvhyP1r6Q 2. Ron Trent is supposed to be opening a new Chicago vinyl focused record store in the basement of the Silver Room. I will keep the list informed as details are known. Here is a link to the Silver Room: http://www.thesilverroom.com/ I love them because they have the world's greatest collection of $15 sunglasses. Their annual block party is also really fun... 3. Does anyone know of anything that might replace the void in information left by the death of 313? I don't know of much besides ISM, gridface, and Little White Earbuds. I'm actually going to be starting a music (mainly deep house) and culture blog soon, focusing primarily on Chicago and Detroit music, but also including at least some of the good producers out of the east coast. No BS RA style stars rating system, if we think it is awesome, we will write it up, and that is that. Hopefully this will help spread the love for some of the amazing work that so many producers are doing lately. We also intend to review any record, no matter when it came out, whether it was 4 days ago or 40 years ago.
(313) Dave Powers :: New Mixset :: Deep House Techno
Dave Powers: The Legend of Urk Ru Last night I had a dream... I was wandering through the mountains, rain was beating down on me, dense fog clouded my vision. So tired and hungry, I could barely stand. Hadn't seen a living being in days. I gave up all hope. Cursing my fate. And then, just as my strength slipped away, I saw it glistening before me... URK RU. http://soundcloud.com/davidapowers/the-legend-of-urk-ru Keeping it deep @ 119 bpm... this one is for all the heads into that spiritual vibe. Tracks by (besides the fact that I lived there!): Rick Wade. Robert Owens, Iron Curtis, Move D, and more... ~dP
Re: (313) Dave Powers :: New Mixset :: Deep House Techno
Woops, I was originally gonna say 313 connection (besides the fact that I lived there!): Rick Wade. So yeah. what I posted makes no sense. Tracks by (besides the fact that I lived there!): Rick Wade. Robert Owens, Iron Curtis, Move D, and more... On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 7:16 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Dave Powers: The Legend of Urk Ru Last night I had a dream... I was wandering through the mountains, rain was beating down on me, dense fog clouded my vision. So tired and hungry, I could barely stand. Hadn't seen a living being in days. I gave up all hope. Cursing my fate. And then, just as my strength slipped away, I saw it glistening before me... URK RU. http://soundcloud.com/davidapowers/the-legend-of-urk-ru Keeping it deep @ 119 bpm... this one is for all the heads into that spiritual vibe. Tracks by (besides the fact that I lived there!): Rick Wade. Robert Owens, Iron Curtis, Move D, and more... ~dP
Re: (313) track id: want/need/feel my love
Alex always schools me on bomb vocal house cuts that I don't know. Every time! Thanks for finding this Frank... ~David On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: found it! http://youtu.be/IVLMt7_49fo On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Wibo Lammerts wibo...@gmail.com wrote: Davina Don't you want it? Or is that just too easy? 2011/6/1 Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com: hi all omar s killed it on saturday at deep detroit. pretty much his whole set was unidentifiable mid 90s house/garage/acid. one track in particular had lyrics which presumably should make it easier to identify though my efforts so far have failed. basically it was a female vocal that repeated the following in a call and response style: don't you want it? don't you want my love? don't you need it? don't you need my love? don't you feel it? don't you feel my love? any ideas? -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com -- http://soundcloud.com/w1b0 | http://network.technobass.net/profile/w1b0 | http://twitter.com/w1b0 -- -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
Re: (313) more thoughts on Movement 2011
Highlights of the weekend for me: 1. Seth Troxler's set finishing up for Visionquest on the Made In Detroit stage. I wasn't sure what to expect, but this set was pure FIRE. I have no idea what tracks he was playing, but it was pure Motor City funk, somewhere in between techno and house, and Seth was really channeling something--I think he gets to the level of a shaman when he's on. As far as I'm concerned, based on that set Seth is definitely the heir to the Detroit techno and house legacy... I especially remember how great the basslines were, they all had that Detroit funk edge. I also love the Prince vibe Seth has going, he pulls that off really well. He actually opened with the intro from Purple Rain and it was great. 2. Cassy at the Old Miami--very tight mixing and excellent track selection. Plus the vibes and crowd there are amazing, and you can sit under the trees or by the pond in back, which is a nice change from all the concrete! 3. Aux 88 live. I was pleasantly surprised at how tight they sounded and how good the sound was... I just wish they'd gotten to play on the Made in Detroit Stage, they were on the same stage as the dubstep acts and the crowd was kind of young and ravey, didn't see many heads there. Of course, putting them at the same time as 69 live was a poor programming choice in my opinion. 4. Delano Smith at Made in Detroit... I'm a big fan of Delano's music and I really enjoyed his set. A bit techier than I expected but still sounded great. 5. Matt Tolfrey at Brandon Burke's Floating Frequencies boat party. This party occurs on Saturday at 1pm just as DEMF is starting, and may actually be the most enjoyable party I've ever attended. Everyone lost it when he dropped Big Fun. Really good vibes from the crowd and just amazing to ride through tjhe water front on the top of a boat hearing great music. Of course, this party has a huge Chicago contingent, I'm sure I knew at least 100 people on the boat, so sharing the moment with great friends is probably a big part of what made this event so special (Old Miami is similar in this respect). Biggest regret: Not making it to the SHXT SHOW party... I just got stranded at Old Miami and it was too hard to get over there. I know they had some really good Deep House and Disco on their line up. Plus some sort of crazy petting zoo from what I heard... My only complaint about the fest itself is that DJ's always play festival style even house DJ's play techier sets and really you don't get to hear any deeper and sexier music at a slower BPM at the fest. I'd love for Paxahau to program a day on stage that focused on house and maybe disco more in the 118-122 bpm range. Part of what makes Old Miami so refreshing is that ihe music is definitely slower and sexier then what you hear the rest of the weekend. As far as the programming, sure I disagree with a lot of their programming choices, but I think they've done about as good as you can do while still keeping the festival commercially viable. ~David On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 3:59 AM, Fred Heutte ph...@sunlightdata.com wrote: Monday was a good day at the festival. I arrived in time to hear TP on the main stage bring Strings of Life into a remix of Patrice Rushen's Haven't You Heard (I like Steve Rachmad's A Lot of Love on Spiritual/Outland more but this version was slower and more in line with the mix). Terrence was in a vocal mood, singing along with several tracks. And he played Blow Your House Down. Couldn't ask for more. I liked DJ Three (Chris Milo) on the Beatport stage playing an unhurried set of solid acid-tinged stuff. Boo Williams and GU were unfortunately stuck in the underground stage; when will Paxahau finally admit house just doesn't work in there? But I spent most of the day at the Made in Detroit stage. Just missed seeing Franki Juncaj (formerly the friendly guy at the register at Somewhere in Detroit and also a quite good DJ), but heard a lot of District 909 (Tim Baker and HD Substance). Tim Baker has had some interesting releases but I wasn't sure what to expect, and what they deliver is basic stripped down live techno sliding back and forth between really tough and cool and somewhat aimless. Next up was DTM on 5 turntables, that's right, count 'em, 5x5. It could have been a classic pileup but actually it was kind of fun. First up was Throw as the soundbed, which is the obvious way to get started and it went from there. Layers and layers of tracks'n'scratches. Then DJ T-1000 or as known among these parts, Alan. You know what he does and that's bring it up to a high level of intensity and lets it roll. As good as AO was, Claude Young finally had the time, the space and the crowd to really throw down -- nearly two and half hours worth. Everyone I talked to including the man himself felt the inspiration. It's not just about playing the great old records, as great as they remain, or the great new ones, still fresh and not struggling
(313) Playing tonight at the Works with Death on the Balcony
If anybody wants to swing through the Works in Detroit, my partner in crime Max Jacobson are opening up for Death on the Balcony from Leeds--these cats are great DJ's, just met them in Chicago this past week. I'd highly recommend checking out their set. I believe Max and I play 10-midnight, and it's FREE! ~David
(313) Just saw this party announced (TOGETHERNESS)
I was gonna hit up Deep Detroit w/ Kai Alcé, Omar S Brett Dancer, but then I saw this party announced. Very tempted to hit it up! 5.28.11 | TOGETHERNESS feat. Uchikawa, Ron Trent, Rick Wade, Al Ester... Join us Saturday, May 28th for Togetherness as we unite Detroit, Chicago, Tokyo and New York in deep house sound. We've brought together some of the best talent for DEMF weekend, especially for the heads. The rooftop patio will set the tone overlooking downtown, and just minutes walking distance from Hart Plaza. Plenty of secure parking for those driving. This one is NOT to be missed!!! DJ Line-up: Uchikawa (Loftsoul Recordings - Japan) Ron Trent (Future Vision - Chicago, NYC) Al Ester (Waterfalls Resident - Detroit) Earl McKinney (Waterfalls Resident - Detroit) Rick Wilhite (3 Chairs - Detroit) Rick Wade (Harmonie Park - Detroit) Eric Emusic Johnson (Switchswing - Detroit) Todd Weston (Deep Heat/ BT12 - Detroit) Doors @ 8PM | 21 and up | $5 cover before 10 Club Waterfalls 673 Franklin St. (5 blocks from Hart Plaza) Detroit, MI
Re: (313) Just saw this party announced (TOGETHERNESS)
Worried I'd just end up losing the vinyl by the time I left, it's not so fun trying to get down while you are carrying records, and I might be out of my mind and apt to lose things... Also, much as I love new records, I don't think I have any budget for buying music it's gonna be tight as is. Though what they have is probably priced reasonably and not at $14-15 like any EP from Gramaphone now. Where did you hear about the vinyl anyway? I didn't see any info posted anywhere on that... ~DP On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:27 PM, jwan allen jwan.al...@gmail.com wrote: Amazing you keep missing Mr. wade, but we all understand how that happens. I'm going for the Brett/ Kai/ Omar-S party simply for the new tunes that will be available that night only. Sure a version of what was offered will be available in the normal retail channels at some point, but that won't be for a long time coming. The music provided at each event will esstentially cancel each other out, I expect each party to BRING IT, with that being said, vinyl tips the scales for on this one. jw On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 1:11 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Well I've seen Omar S but never seen Rick Wade--heard he's amazing and of course, just love his production. I saw Wilhite only once at this tiny venue in Chicago, he was killing it... Ron Trent is also really great. So...I think those three together seem pretty hard to top... I dunno... haven't seen Kai and saw Brett Dancer a really long time ago, so not so sure what to expect from those guys as DJ's. Any insight from the list into this very important life decision is welcome!!! ;-) ~David On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: uchikawa played last year at the third ear party and he wasn't very good iirc. in fact he was pretty awful. it's a shame rick and rick are doing their thing opposite kai's thing this year. that really sucks. but, anyway, deep detroit is definitely going to be where it's at. i can't even imagine passing it up! On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 12:37 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: I was gonna hit up Deep Detroit w/ Kai Alcé, Omar S Brett Dancer, but then I saw this party announced. Very tempted to hit it up! 5.28.11 | TOGETHERNESS feat. Uchikawa, Ron Trent, Rick Wade, Al Ester... Join us Saturday, May 28th for Togetherness as we unite Detroit, Chicago, Tokyo and New York in deep house sound. We've brought together some of the best talent for DEMF weekend, especially for the heads. The rooftop patio will set the tone overlooking downtown, and just minutes walking distance from Hart Plaza. Plenty of secure parking for those driving. This one is NOT to be missed!!! DJ Line-up: Uchikawa (Loftsoul Recordings - Japan) Ron Trent (Future Vision - Chicago, NYC) Al Ester (Waterfalls Resident - Detroit) Earl McKinney (Waterfalls Resident - Detroit) Rick Wilhite (3 Chairs - Detroit) Rick Wade (Harmonie Park - Detroit) Eric Emusic Johnson (Switchswing - Detroit) Todd Weston (Deep Heat/ BT12 - Detroit) Doors @ 8PM | 21 and up | $5 cover before 10 Club Waterfalls 673 Franklin St. (5 blocks from Hart Plaza) Detroit, MI -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com -- Technoir Audio http://www.technoiraudio.com dealing with your imperfect world
Re: (313) Who is going to DEMF?!
Sorry, I forgot to important ones. SUNDAY: 69-LIVE MONDAY: DISTRICT 909-LIVE On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Here's my picks: Sat: Metro Area, Kerri Chandler, Visionquest, Monolake Sunday: Ricardo Villalobos, Guti, Delano Smith, Aux 88 Monday: The Dirtbombs, Boo Williams Glenn Underground, Art Department, Scuba, Claude Young, Flying Lotus Parties: Saturday DAY: Floating Frequencies Boat Party NIGHT: Circo Loco. (tv bar) Sunday DAY: The Grass Is Greener (old miami) NIGHT: The Youth of Today (MotorCityWine), SHXT SHOW DEUCE (tv bar) Monday DAY: Need I Say More 6 (old miami) NIGHT: Hot Natured Detroit, possibly Ayro and John Arnold live (MotorCityWine)
Re: (313) Who is going to DEMF?!
And I can no longer spell two. Carry on. ~David On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 11:16 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, I forgot to important ones. SUNDAY: 69-LIVE MONDAY: DISTRICT 909-LIVE On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:41 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Here's my picks: Sat: Metro Area, Kerri Chandler, Visionquest, Monolake Sunday: Ricardo Villalobos, Guti, Delano Smith, Aux 88 Monday: The Dirtbombs, Boo Williams Glenn Underground, Art Department, Scuba, Claude Young, Flying Lotus Parties: Saturday DAY: Floating Frequencies Boat Party NIGHT: Circo Loco. (tv bar) Sunday DAY: The Grass Is Greener (old miami) NIGHT: The Youth of Today (MotorCityWine), SHXT SHOW DEUCE (tv bar) Monday DAY: Need I Say More 6 (old miami) NIGHT: Hot Natured Detroit, possibly Ayro and John Arnold live (MotorCityWine)
(313) Who is going to DEMF?!
Here's my picks: Sat: Metro Area, Kerri Chandler, Visionquest, Monolake Sunday: Ricardo Villalobos, Guti, Delano Smith, Aux 88 Monday: The Dirtbombs, Boo Williams Glenn Underground, Art Department, Scuba, Claude Young, Flying Lotus Parties: Saturday DAY: Floating Frequencies Boat Party NIGHT: Circo Loco. (tv bar) Sunday DAY: The Grass Is Greener (old miami) NIGHT: The Youth of Today (MotorCityWine), SHXT SHOW DEUCE (tv bar) Monday DAY: Need I Say More 6 (old miami) NIGHT: Hot Natured Detroit, possibly Ayro and John Arnold live (MotorCityWine)
Re: (313) Toddla T Take Me Back
Okay, well more obviously it rips lyrics direct from Ralphi Rosario You Used to Hold Me ... ~DP On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Frank Glazer cpe1704...@gmail.com wrote: could the people in the video look any less enthusiastic? going through the motions. i am overwhelmingly unimpressed. i can't say enough bad things about it. i should love it, pianos, basslines, shola ama, but it's just bullpucky. On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 3:36 PM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or doesn't this borrow from Derrick May -- and 80s Techno in general? In a really good way? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAqENlABNQk -- peace, frank http://www.deejaycountzero.com http://www.infinitestatemachine.com
Re: (313) Wanted: London (second hand) record stores
We have two Reckless Records in Chicago, nice stores, although I don't really see much in the way of house/techno. But great for 80's, industrial, classical, jazz, and world for sure. And yeah, lots of hipster music. They have pretty esoteric looking bags, word is the owners are really into occult type of stuff--anyone know the scoop on that? ~David On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: I've definitely accumulated a big chunk of techno from there over the years too Matt. I'd forgotten they even had another shop on the same road, but yes, they did! The one still open is ths smaller one you hit first from Oxford Street. Ken From: Matt Chester [mailto:chesterm...@googlemail.com] Sent: 12 May 2011 14:39 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Wanted: London (second hand) record stores Thanks Ken, I didn't even know Reckless was back in business! Is that store the smaller of the two they used to have? Will have to get back there soon, it was always my favourite record store - I reckon about 30% of my collection came from there... On 12/05/2011 14:22, Mel N wrote: Great recs Ken. I 'third' reckless - I find they are more 'organised' (or should that be 'more selective') ... and i second the music vid exchage at notting hill gate On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: Hi Roland. Berwick Street, London W1, is still more or less the Capital's record-shop mecca, despite the decline in vinyl sales this decade. Try Music Video Exchange at 95 Berwick Street, London: Telephone 020 7434 2939. They're excellent, even if their website appears to be busted. Reckless Records http://is.gd/mCxTuA And to a slightly lesser extent Sister Ray http://is.gd/hiAQO5 All are on the same road, all have a great history and hopefully, future. Good luck and enjoy! Ken Ken Odeluga Assistant News Editor Markets – Market Talk Dow Jones Newswires 10 Fleet Place Limeburner Lane LONDON EC4M 7QN ken.odel...@dowjones.com 44 (0) 20 7842 9297 44 (0) 7887793644 From: Roland Meijer Drees [mailto:roowl...@gmail.com] Sent: 12 May 2011 11:34 To: list 313 Subject: (313) Wanted: London (second hand) record stores Hi 313-ers I've been reading the 313 list for very long time and now is the time to send my first email/request. Next week I'm travelling to London (from Holland). Part of my trip will be some record-hunting ;) It's been long since I've visited London and I'm afraid I've lost track of all the good (second hand) record stores in London (I know there were quit a few in and around Soho area) Do any of you have tips for where to find those nice record stores? Any other tips regarding music, good exhibits etc.. are also welcome Thanks! Regards Roland http://twitter.com/#!/roowlant -- matt chester 11th hour recordings www.matt-chester.com
Re: (313) mid/late 90s minimal techno mixes?
Speaking of 90s... anybody have good mixes of 90s house stuff on the deeper side? like Prescription and Guidance type records? Oh and I just want to add, I think there's a lot of excellent music being put out right now, although I'd class it much more as house than techno. I have had no problem at all finding good cuts to buy lately. Going through all the junk to find the good stuff can be painful, though. ~David On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:30 PM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of 90s... anybody have good mixes of 90s house stuff on the deeper side? like Prescription and Guidance type records? Oh and I just want to add, I think there's a lot of excellent music being put out right now, although I'd class it much more as house than techno. I have had no problem at all finding good cuts to buy lately. Going through all the junk to find the good stuff can be painful, though. ~David On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 7:06 PM, david smith bassline...@gmail.com wrote: Well in my world everything is 90s, I kinda feel like my old friend who claims he stopped buying records when 1990 hit, except I stopped buying and following new releases in 2005 but really must of my stuff is pre 2000--DUBSTEP and Laptop techno? Although one could argue timeblind did some 90s dubstep On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 3:17 PM, maxphi...@gmail.com wrote: I don't understand, what isn't 90s? m50 At 2011.05.02 13:24, you wrote: Dude that is not 90s :P i read, that she released mix cd in 1999 called Fact ... I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Magda should release a mix CD. ... (mnnl.nl post) I have a copy of this CD I picked up from my friend when she was still living in Detroit, it is just misplaced. Till then search for kikoman on ravearchive for a few old school minimal mix tapes--I also agree that the DEXIT mixtape by Claude Young is one of the best examples of 90s minimal. 2011/5/1 Benoît Pueyo benoit.pu...@gmail.com: Le 29/04/2011 19:49, Michael Elliot-Knight a écrit : Hey y'all Anyone have a link to some old school minimal techno mixes? Would really like to find the real pounding bangers that were recorded back then and somehow preserved for my enjoyment of all things back in the day. Doesn't have to be strictly Detroit for me - thanks MEK Disclaimer The information in this email and any attachments may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of the contents of this information is prohibited. When addressed to our clients or vendors, any information contained in this e-mail or any attachments is subject to the terms and conditions in any governing contract. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail. Self-unashamed-promotion I have left on soundcloud a set containing sortor music you're requesting =) It's from 2005 http://soundcloud.com/tioneb/tioneb-january-2005 1) benny liberg johannes wikstrom - semicircular ep (maracas) 2) jeff mills - the part 1 (axis) 3) british murder boys - be like i am (counterbalance) 4) unknown - loop (4x4 volume 1) 5) aural emote - third eye (symbolism) 6) memory foundation - trade bridge dub (central) 7) joris voorn - skyshopping (sino) 8) pehr herb - helmer dandy / d' wachman amp; had substance rmx (backdraft) 9) unknown - expression sessions 002 / b2 (expression sessions) 10) marco carola- king of excuses (domino) 11) dj deeon - game box (ghetto test) 12) traxmen - playing with a rubberband (dancemania) 13) planetary assault system - starway ritual (peacefrog) 14) sebastian kramer - inside the core (pure plastic) 15) harcell grindvik - square (drumcode) 16) oscar mulero -primary instincts (pole) 17) reeko - the goddess (theory) 18) aural emote - fifth column / ben sims rmx (symbolism) 19) querida - 3-5-3 (kanzleramt) 20) sir real amp; surgeon - withwing (snafu) 21) the advent - let us take you (kombination research) 22) ur - codebreaker / b1 (ur) 23) diego - back jack back (kanzleramt) 24) echoplex - no entrance (soleil) 25) phase - obscura mix1 (inceptive) 26) jeff mills - roman age / the games mix (mk2) 27) makaton - cockfest 2003 (rodz konez) 28) damon wild - avion / sterac remix (synewave) 29) john tejada - flight to tokyo (pokerflat) 30) archetype - nite lite (sonic mind) -- Benoît.
Re: (313) New Todhchai 12
sounds great! On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Jussi Lehtonen jleht...@mail.student.oulu.fi wrote: On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Kevin Reynolds wrote: Hey everyone. Finally after years a new 12 out on Todhchai. Kevin Reynolds Favis TDH002 peep it here: http://www.groovedis.com/shop/Kevin-Reynolds-FAVIS-EP-12-p-794008.html Sounds quite nice. :) Cheers, Jussi Lehtonen Metaprogram yourself.
Re: (313) Juan Atkins - Dayshift
Wow, this track is kinda bonkers! I like it... ~David On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Robin Pinning robin.pinn...@me.com wrote: I like that. Reminded me to get my ticket for when he plays in Manchester soon... Robin... On 11 Feb 2011, at 16:57, Patrick Wacher wrote: Heya all, Just saw this on the Twitter thing... Juan has a new track available for D/L on SoundCloud: http://www.littlewhiteearbuds.com/review/exclusive-download-of-the-week-juan-atkins-dayshift/ Apparently coming out with Terrence Dixon and Worthy(?). - P.
Re: (313) Uhhhhhhh - wow!
Have you tried calling Gramaphone? I am 99% sure they could get you FIT stuff no problem unless it's all gone overseas already... ~David On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: IT's a real shame 'cause there is no store in the US AFAIK that has this kinda selection. If i'm outta line, someone please school me ;) While I do love shopping online @ Clone and Hardwax, the mix of the Euro and the shipping is really killing me. - P On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: Oops, that reminds me; the answer was yes, sadly. Wholesale only. It says this on the website. I wasn't sure what the website was till I asked, so sorry if I was preaching to those whose research was already better than mine. http://www.fitdetroit.com/aboutus.php Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 12 January 2011 07:10 To: 'Patrick Wacher'; ja...@iridite.com Cc: 313 list Subject: RE: (313) Uhhh - wow! Really? I know someone who knows Aaron (FIT) let me see if that's true. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wacher [mailto:pwac...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 January 2011 23:36 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Uhhh - wow! Not too bad, the EL mix is sleazy as hell ;) Wish I could order directly from FIT, but seems like they only do wholesale :( - P. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:43 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Moodymann/Freeki Mutha F cker Label: KDJ Genre: Techno-House Item #: KDJ040 Format: 12EP Note: PRESALE Release Date: 01.25.2011 4 tracks including a Model 500 remix, and a Egyptian Lover remix Now that's an impressive sounding record! Hope it lives up to expectations! Jason
Re: (313) Uhhhhhhh - wow!
In fact Gramaphone will pre-order stuff that's not even out yet too, if you want... I've done this with Rush Hour releases I knew I had to have. ~David On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:49 AM, David Powers cybo...@gmail.com wrote: Have you tried calling Gramaphone? I am 99% sure they could get you FIT stuff no problem unless it's all gone overseas already... ~David On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Patrick Wacher pwac...@gmail.com wrote: IT's a real shame 'cause there is no store in the US AFAIK that has this kinda selection. If i'm outta line, someone please school me ;) While I do love shopping online @ Clone and Hardwax, the mix of the Euro and the shipping is really killing me. - P On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Odeluga, Ken ken.odel...@dowjones.com wrote: Oops, that reminds me; the answer was yes, sadly. Wholesale only. It says this on the website. I wasn't sure what the website was till I asked, so sorry if I was preaching to those whose research was already better than mine. http://www.fitdetroit.com/aboutus.php Ken -Original Message- From: Odeluga, Ken [mailto:ken.odel...@dowjones.com] Sent: 12 January 2011 07:10 To: 'Patrick Wacher'; ja...@iridite.com Cc: 313 list Subject: RE: (313) Uhhh - wow! Really? I know someone who knows Aaron (FIT) let me see if that's true. -Original Message- From: Patrick Wacher [mailto:pwac...@gmail.com] Sent: 11 January 2011 23:36 To: ja...@iridite.com Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Uhhh - wow! Not too bad, the EL mix is sleazy as hell ;) Wish I could order directly from FIT, but seems like they only do wholesale :( - P. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:43 PM, ja...@iridite.com ja...@iridite.com wrote: Moodymann/Freeki Mutha F cker Label: KDJ Genre: Techno-House Item #: KDJ040 Format: 12EP Note: PRESALE Release Date: 01.25.2011 4 tracks including a Model 500 remix, and a Egyptian Lover remix Now that's an impressive sounding record! Hope it lives up to expectations! Jason
(313) Brothers Vibe
Ok, for all you house heads out there: If you ever get a chance to see Brothers Vibe, DO NOT MISS IT! He played a small event in Chicago yesterday, and again at an afterparty, and just KILLED IT. I'm not exaggerating if I say he may be the best house music DJ I have ever seen in my life. Absolutely flawless mixing and so much soul, and he's also a super nice guy. `~Dave Powers
(313) Delano and Norm, New Year's Eve underground In Chicago
AM Chicago presents: with support from MiM New Years Eve MASQUERADE 2011 Beats Provided by: - DELANO SMITH vs. NORM TALLEY (Third Ear, Sushitech, Detroit Beatdown) - ERIC JOHNSTON (Leftroom, Cityfox, Wolf +Lamb) - BIG BULLY (Get Physical, Contexterior) - HERNAN SANCHEZ (Meiotic) - MAX JACOBSON vs. DAVE POWERS (DJ SET W LIVE KEYS/PIANO) (Klectik) - ARI FRANK(o)(o) vs. DEREK FOX Location: TBA, Chicago 10PM-8AM Free Champagne: 11:30PM Additional Support from MIM, Mixmode, Detroit Beatdown and Klectik Live Art installation by: Joe Miller (http://joemillerwork.com/) We found a new secret warehouse/loft in West Town for this one. The dancing area is huge and has a starlight ceiling. If you need a brake, there will be plenty of couches upstairs. You'll be able to relax and talk with friends while still seeing all the action in the main room. There will be a private parking lot, coat check, and one huge bar. Almost forgot to mention live visuals and top shelf acoustics. Bottom line it's not to be missed. Tix will be available on RA starting next Tuesday (11/23/10). Don't miss out the Early Bird special for only $10: http://www.residentadvisor.net/event.aspx?209341 **Must RSVP to obtain address and additional information: rsvp.amchic...@gmail.com** We will post directions and rules to access the party one day prior. Bring a mask!
Re: (313) July 4th 1981 Billboard article on Kraftwerk mentions WLBS-FM Detroit, Detroit Audio
Some awesome details in that article. Like the give away featuring pocket calculators based the Pocket Calculator single. And the fact that their roadies were supposedly all scientists... ~David On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:02 PM, Greg Earle ea...@isolar.dyndns.org wrote: Found on the Kraftwerk mailing list: http://books.google.com/books?id=JiQEMBAJlpg=PT50dq=kraftwerkhl=enpg=PT50#v=onepageq=kraftwerkf=false Basically says that WLBS spearheaded US radio play of Computer World. Neat. - Greg
Re: (313) New interviews
Kent, did you seriously just type raison d'être on an email list? You're such an elitist!!! ;-) ~David On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:14 AM, kent williams chaircrus...@gmail.com wrote: It's not my raison d'être
Re: (313) New interviews
If my dad DJed like Rick Wilhite I might actually pay attention to what he said... ;) I think Wilhite is right in many ways about the stupidity of the electronic music business as a whole, but hasn't that always been the case ever since music became a commodity? Ask Franz Schubert or Charlie Parker... Still, if you look at the reality of what the technology boom of the 90's promised and what the true result of this technology has been, it certainly has lived up to the utopian hype that was floating about, especially in the late nineties... Of course, not everyone bought into the hype even then. Anyway, for me there is no question that our current technology is bringing about certain dystopian results. And the pro-technology crowd, to my mind, just sounds idiotic in there rapturous worship of the latest market trend. It's not really about technology though, it's about the level of human thinking; I don't see many new ideas being introduced and I think that the essential limits of our thinking were really defined in the fifties and sixties of the twentieth century. From my point of view, the new millenium never really arrived. Year 2000 was an illusion. Also, I don't know of any electronic work that has come close to the sophistication of the greatest acoustic music, perhaps because the instruments for such music probably haven't been created, and the techniques are relatively new. I firmly believe that really great things often take multiple generations of human existence to come to fruition. I am certain that such works will exis someday however, I'm not saying that acoustic music is somehow superior ... but right now humans do not have the will or the imagination to create such works. ~David On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Martin Dust mar...@dustscience.com wrote: On 21 Sep 2010, at 18:56, wojciech wrote: -With Rick Wilhite: http://www.residentadvisor.net/feature.aspx?1245 It's so, so weird reading an interview from some who's into electronic music but bangs on like your f*cking dad! m
