RE: [313] UR NYE
Nicely put. Thanks for coming to the defense of us all. It's not only me; I'm coming over with four people, but I know a whole bunch of Dutchies (at least a dozen) who want to come over. They are on hold now, they'll beter know soon or they will have serious trouble even getting to England around that time of the year. This is getting frustrating. Is Cornelius still on this list? He's about the only one who can clear this out. John P.S. Whoever some REAL info on this, please mail me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will refrain from nagging now. This is getting a bit ridiculous. People do have to make certain sacrifices to make it to these things. I have faxed Submerge and got no reply, I hear conflicting information on a daily basis from self styled representatives, friends of Ranx, Ranx himself, people who claim they were in contact with UR in London recently and god knows who else. I don't mean to be rude Martin, but why should I believe a word you tell me over all the other circumstantial crap I've been hearing? You've heard John's dilemma, I could have gone back home to Scotland for NY instead, and there are plenty of other people who've gone out on a limb for this. I'm not trying to point any fingers here, or presume the whole thing is a sham - I've got my ticket and I'll go in the hope UR turn up - but if you have something to tell us regarding this event, please make sure it's informative and substantiated rather than mysterious bullsh*t. And for the sake of people like John, if you *do* know something for sure, let us know, or at the very least email John privately. Jonny. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Dave Clarke - London NYE
Thanks, but no, thanks. J Hi! You can always visit the club where Dave Clarke is playing, in London NYE. Info on his Wicked Website: http://www.daveclarke.com New Years Eve Atomic Jam Birmingham 11.30- 1 London Calling @ the Docklands 4am-6am London, UK Regards, Anni --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev: > Yeah, it's about time I know because I need to get > tickets (if the UR-crew > shows). Imagine having payed for train and hotel, > then not buying tickets > for the show because you think they won't show, then > finding out they do > perform and not being able to get tickets anymore. > Oh boy, I can not be held > responsible for my actions if this occurs. Please > visit me in prison then... > > > > John, ever more confused, out > > > > > on 15/12/00 6:45 am, martin clark at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > oi 313? people shouldn't be so sceptical about UR > in London. > > Don't mean to be offensive but it's this kind of > non-informative post that > make people sceptical. > > > If you don't go: you'll be very disapointed. > > There's *very* special plans afoot. > > Point proven, why not just post what you've heard? > > > > rl. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR NYE
Yeah, it's about time I know because I need to get tickets (if the UR-crew shows). Imagine having payed for train and hotel, then not buying tickets for the show because you think they won't show, then finding out they do perform and not being able to get tickets anymore. Oh boy, I can not be held responsible for my actions if this occurs. Please visit me in prison then... John, ever more confused, out on 15/12/00 6:45 am, martin clark at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > oi 313? people shouldn't be so sceptical about UR in London. Don't mean to be offensive but it's this kind of non-informative post that make people sceptical. > If you don't go: you'll be very disapointed. > There's *very* special plans afoot. Point proven, why not just post what you've heard? rl. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] R: [313] UR NYE
Need I mention that by now I'm going slightly bezerk? J, the one with train ticket and hotel reservation, out aw c'mon.whats with the mystery? - Original Message - From: martin clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <313@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 3:45 PM Subject: [313] UR NYE > oi 313? people shouldn't be so sceptical about UR in London. > > If you don't go: you'll be very disapointed. > There's *very* special plans afoot. > > UR: the last act on the planet worth believing in? > > martin > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] greetings
Oh my God! Now we are all doomed! ;-) Hey B, a bit easy on the compliments, you are making me blush! Welcome dude, you should have joined long time ago. We need people with your attitude. I'm sure we'll have a great time next year in da D. And of course this Saturday on your private party. See ya tomorrow, J -Original Message- From: stuffed bird [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 2:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] greetings Hi strangers, Just joined this list after hearing from it through John O., Belgium's leading Detroit techno journalist. Is this a nothing-but-detroit-do-not-look-beyond type of list or do you welcome a DJ who plays all music groovy, be it Motor City, Windy City, Big Easy or Big Apple? RD PS the mail address was inspired by 't is the season to be joll Signup for your free Virtual Countries E-mail address at http://www.turkey.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Steve Stoll and Front 242?
Steve once told me in an interview he used to drum for Skinny Puppy... -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 2:49 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Steve Stoll and Front 242? We were talking about Front 242's influence on techno on another list, and I just remembered that when we brought Steve Stoll to one of our events, he said he was moving to Belgium that week to work with Front 242, anyone know what? Front is probably the most important group to me (besides Duran Duran) If you want to check out a great flash site, check www.front242.com darw_n "re-evolut_on..." www.sphereproductions.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR/Moodyman NYE
Yeah, and he can repay our train and hotel as well. Ermm, one can only dream right? Just received another mail from Bassic Groove asking me to turn in my report on the UR-party asap after New Year. Feel extra f***ed now. The mere fact that Ranx put Pennington on the list while he was already booked for Switserland raised a few doubts on my side. Apparently he didn't even ask him and just assumed he would be there if he asked the other members. Maybe he just assumed a little too much... John I have had so many assurances from people who say that UR said to them that they WERE going, and that X and Y are secretly going too. If this doesn't come off I expect Ranx to provide a refund, as he said he would definitely pull this off. I am only going in order to see UR, so I'm none too happy paying to see anyone else instead. Is anyone here in direct contact with UR so as to clear this thing up for those of us who are (planning on) going? Or is Ranx paying any attention to this so as to let us know what exactly is going on (rather than boasting about his amazing promotional prowess)? Jonny. > I know for a fact that Underground Resistance will not > play in London NYE. > The concert seems to be a prefabrication by the > promoter. > > My best friend has direct contact with Submerge and > 430 west and they told > him on a phone conversation that the hole thing will > not happen. > > If anybody wants a confirmation about the status of > UR:s appearance NYE, the easiest way is to contact > Submerge, Call 313.963.1025 or fax 313.963.0213 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR/Moodyman NYE
I am extremely pissed off. I spent my last money on train and hotel for London because I wanted to see UR live. Furthermore I can confirm that James Pennington will not perform in London due to a prior engagement in Switserland. James however has put me down very badly last Monday when he didn't show up to play at my party. He didn't even call and up to now I haven't been able to reach him nor those he return my calls. Never had I expected so much disrespect from somebody I thought I could trust. That mere fact that he didn't even call to cancell or refuses to pick up his phone is very hard for me to understand. Untill the early evening everything seemed ok, James promising to be in Ghent by 10pm. From then on I couldn't reach him anymore. I stayed in the train station untill the last train arrived well after midnight. I felt terrible. I would have given an arm for this guy and then he lets me and everybody who turned up (more than we had ever expected) down like that not even wanting to explain. Nice. It puts the whole 'underground' thing in perspective. A whole lot of bullshit, that's what it is. John, very disappointed, out -Original Message- From: Nick Craddock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 1:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] UR/Moodyman NYE H I'd like to hear the official comment on why the line-up has been cropped so disappointingly. Moodyman'll be great, if he actually plays at all - my thinking at the moment is that we won't actually know until the night whether this will happen or not. I've been misled once it seems, so once more isn't gonna hurt, right? The fact still remains that the line-up as it stands now is far from the one that enticed me to part with £30. When I called up the information line I did ask the guy I spoke to whether the full UR crew would be in attendance - to which he of course replied "yes". Ranx, if you're out there perhaps you could supply us with some kind of insight into how such an ambitious line-up could be miscommunicated (such an advantageous miscommunication at that), and also inform us whether ticket refunds are available for the disappointed ones. I'm trying hard not to scream "Rip-off" at this point, but to be honest I'm frustrated by this and a little pissed off. NC _ Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] RE:313 hoodies/313 HO Gear
Hey, your the expert! ;-) Naughty J out -Original Message- From: Rachael Ann Stiegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 5:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE:313 hoodies/313 HO Gear What constitutes "Dj Ho gear?" -Rachael On 8 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey how bout 313 Dj ho gear ?!?!?! > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Dj Ho! ;-))) > > -Original Message- > From: Rachael Ann Stiegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 4:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Re: [[313] 313 hoodies] > > > > ooh 313 thongI'm down. :) > > -Rachael > > On 8 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > How bout ; should people that dont live in the 313 area code "be able" > > to buy a ' 313 hoodie' ..(sic) > > How bout 313 drawers..you know boxers? or even better 313 thongs!?!? > > 313 sox ...313 blankets ..313 ties ...!!313 bra's!?!?! > > I can see a whole ensemble, sprouting from this so everyone can look > like > > they are from DetroitHow bout a 313 car?!?!---oh yeah got one of those > > already > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey what's up everyone? I decided to change the design of the hoodies > after > > consulting with the designer..We decided to just got with 313 (at the > > bottom of the mail) embroidered on the left breast..NOW I have had > > > people ask me if they could buy one YET they are not on the list, so im > > leaving it up to the list...SHOULD non listmembers be able to buy a 313 > > hoodie.(yes/no).. > > > > 95% cotton 5% polleyset black hoodies with 313 with white stitching > > embroiderd on the left breast. They are very nice and warm! > > Size Small-Xlarge $35+shipping/handling > > Size XXlarge-$40+shipping/handling > > Last ordering date December 14th next ordering date will be March 14th > > 313 > >TECHNO > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at > http://home.netscape.com/webmail > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
RE: [313] Re: [[313] 313 hoodies]
Dj Ho! ;-))) -Original Message- From: Rachael Ann Stiegel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 4:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Re: [[313] 313 hoodies] ooh 313 thongI'm down. :) -Rachael On 8 Dec 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > How bout ; should people that dont live in the 313 area code "be able" > to buy a ' 313 hoodie' ..(sic) > How bout 313 drawers..you know boxers? or even better 313 thongs!?!? > 313 sox ...313 blankets ..313 ties ...!!313 bra's!?!?! > I can see a whole ensemble, sprouting from this so everyone can look like > they are from DetroitHow bout a 313 car?!?!---oh yeah got one of those > already > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey what's up everyone? I decided to change the design of the hoodies after > consulting with the designer..We decided to just got with 313 (at the > bottom of the mail) embroidered on the left breast..NOW I have had > people ask me if they could buy one YET they are not on the list, so im > leaving it up to the list...SHOULD non listmembers be able to buy a 313 > hoodie.(yes/no).. > > 95% cotton 5% polleyset black hoodies with 313 with white stitching > embroiderd on the left breast. They are very nice and warm! > Size Small-Xlarge $35+shipping/handling > Size XXlarge-$40+shipping/handling > Last ordering date December 14th next ordering date will be March 14th > 313 >TECHNO > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home.netscape.com/webmail > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] 313 Train Station.
Yeah, that's true. When I was in da D me and my girlfriend took the train to Chicago. We were expecting a huge trainstation, but were surprised to see a itsybitsyteenieweenie station. Well, it's the Motor City for something right? J -Original Message- From: dr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 3:57 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] 313 Train Station. there is one really great train station in detroit. of course, it's been closed for a LONG time... At 6:00 PM +0100 12/7/00, Miroslaw Milewski wrote: > Hi, > > Would someone be so kind and tell me the name of the main train >station in Detroit? > > TIA. >-- > > Miro. > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] MOODYMANN in London NYE
As some listmembers already know I have squeezed the last out of my piggy bank to go to London to see UR live. I also arranged for a feature on the party in Bassic Groove, the leading Dutch dance mag. This London-trip is an extremely costly endeavour for me and my friends especially with the exchange rate for the £ being so high. You can imagine how disappointed we all would be if UR would not perform. I guess a lot of us, some more than others, are really waiting for a 100%-sure confirmation. The party is going down in about three weeks. Isn't it time to put an end to the doubt and the rumours? John, concerned, out Personally I have to say that I DO have confidence that this will come off. I'll be very disappointed if there is no live show, though, as happened in '98, when hundreds paid a hefty ticket fee and made it down to London for what turned out to be (highly enjoyable) a DJs-only session, only to find out that UR played live at 69 in Glasgow two days later for a handful of people. Ideally, I'm hoping that UR and Drexciya both play live... But I have to say that I think calling people on this list 'player haters' (ahem) just because they express doubts about everyone on the bill making it over is a little out of order. Everyone on this list will have had experience of big-name DJs not showing up at some point or other. Oh, and if anyone saw the feature on Moodymann in the new Slut, they may have noticed that Ranx is described as 'the only UK promoter to have brought Moodymann to the UK to DJ', which isn't strictly true. I saw him spin at Pure at The Arches in Glasgow in about '96 where I believe he was a last minute replacement for Terrence Parker who couldn't attend due to the then-recent death of Ken Collier. Wicked night, that: K Hand, Memory Foundation, Sativa, KDJ, T&B... TOM > IN RESPONCE TO YOUR MAIL "FRANK JACK DANIEL", I AM THE > PROMOTER WHO STAGED 3 CHAIRS, I AM THE SAME PROMOTER > WHO PULLED OFF INTERSTELLAR FUGITIVES IN LONDON AND > GLASGOW IN NOVEMBER 1998. > > DESPITE PLAYER HATERS, WE WILL PULL OFF NEW YEARS EVE > THIS YEAR. EXPECT THE WEB SITE TO BE FULLY REINSTATED > ON TUESDAY 12 DECEMBER 2000: WWW.X313.COM. > > PEACE OUT > > RANX > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. > http://shopping.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lawrence Burden interview
Néhéhé, thanks for pluggin me KJ! Those who are interested: fellow 313-member Alan Oldham is also in the interview section: http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ol2k/library/aoldham.htm Questions by yours truely. Coming soon to a Bassic Groove or Overload near you: Robert Hood. Now I have interviewed quite a number of artists over the years, but mister Hood blew me away. I will also make these interviews available for fellow defender of the underground Javier Drada so ya'll can read up a bit. John out -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 1:02 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] Lawrence Burden interview Hi all, If you are curious how 430 West 'tricked' Derick May into doing the remixes for Rolando's Jaguar, read excellent the interview 313-member John Osselaer had with Lawrence Burden, in Eindhoven a view months ago. http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/ol2k/library/lburden.htm For dutch subscibers: A dutch version of the interview will appear in the next issue of Bassic Groove. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] elypsia?
check: http://www.elypsia.com Damn yeah they have something worth checking 313-friends: the live recording of Scan 7's I am from Detroit So get surfing. John out -Original Message- From: Tosh Cooey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 12:19 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] elypsia? whatever happened to them? They releasing anything good? Tosh - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] err...
What about letting the four DUTCHMEN of the Apocalypse present it? Now that would be fun! Oh god!!! I think the presenters of this award should be the four horseman of the apocalypse! Hugh G. Blaze wrote: > > I'm in rather dire need of the sage wisdom of this list and its > members on this issue for a project that I'm working on. > > Is this good or bad for our music and culture? > > When I say "this" I mean the fact that the mainstream press, the > marketing and advertising industries and America in general still > remains clueless as to who the artists are that we are interested in, > the music that we actually buy (as demonstrated by this poll). > > Is that a good thing or bad thing? Would it be better if every city in > the US had a 5,000 person capacity multi-media and Derick May (or > whoever) was in the top 40? Would that kill the spirit of the culture, > in your opinion? Please answer - your opinions on this are invaluable > to me. > > >> >> Beat me to it Atomly :) >> >> Is it just me, or is this every shade of wrong? >> >> > >>> >>> http://abc.go.com/primetime/ama/techno_home.html >>> >>> -- >>> :: atomly :: >>> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://www.atomly.com | http://www.mp3.com/atomly >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >> _ >> >> Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : >> http://explorer.msn.com >> >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > _ > > Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : > http://explorer.msn.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] err...
Yep, same here in Belgium. Rolando getting tons of airplay on the national radio : Studio Brussel. Unfortunately way too late (as always), but still a kick up the *ss for a lot of people I guess. And guess what: one of the dj's that plays quite often at Studio Brussel also plays from time to time in the pub we are throwing the party with James Pennington. He asked the owner how he managed to get James and plans to contact us to get James on Stu Bru with some publicity for our small party. Sweet! Seems that quality will get a chance after all. John P.S. I don't know about Holland, but here in Belgium papers and magazines are also starting to pick up on 2 Step as being 'the next big thing'. Arrggh, I hope things don't evolve in a Londonesque way where a thing is 'cool' for two weeks (spot the exageration here) and is slashed the week after that. > *BUT*, in the process of the bagging of house, occasionally the real > thing makes it to the frontline. Wamdue Kids, Paul Johnson, > Harry 'Choo > Choo' Romero and several other Subliminal artists, Masters At > Work, St. > Germain, the list goes on. And the good thing about it is, this is > happening increasingly more often as the real thing shines through the > dirge of the rest. 2001 will be the year of deep house and house music in holland. It seems that more and more people are getting into stuff like St. Germain (His Tourist album reached the top 20 of the album charts) and Rolando. A quote from one of holland's favorite upperground radio dj: "i'm suprised about the amount of reactions on DJ Rolando's Jaguar". When MAW release a new 12" it gets loads of airplay on primetime radio. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Subject: Re: [313] Ford Focus Ad
Hihi, funny, I was thinking along similar lines when I saw the commercial yesterday night (It's a miracle! I saw some television!). J out > You might try looking at http://www.adcritic.com/ as I've > found some of my > fav commercials there. Hmm No Ford Focus Commercial on line but there is some Red Planet ad there, geez first a video from Rolando, now an Ad for the Red Planet label. It seems like Submerge is aiming for the big one :) kj - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] mispress
Errm, yes, but it should be something special in this case. Hey, I'm not sure since I only have one copy. Read again: 'Rumour goes...' Just looking for confirmation... John out -Original Message- From: darw_n [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] mispress > > Errm, that was an official release. Rumour goes that if you mix them > together (meaning you'll have to get two copies) it reveals a third hidden > track... Isn't that what happens everytime you *mix* anyways??? darw_n "create, demonstrate, toneshift..." http://www.mp3.com/stations/clevelandunderground http://www.mp3.com/darw_n http://www.sphereproductions.com/topic/Darwin.html http://www.mannequinodd.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] mispress
Errm, that was an official release. Rumour goes that if you mix them together (meaning you'll have to get two copies) it reveals a third hidden track... John I recently picked up Octave One's Daystar Rising 12" (one of my all-time favorites) and on the backside was UR's Atzlan. Was this how it was supposed to be released? >>> "* ani *" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 12/4/00 10:44 AM >>> my favorite mispress is steve hurley "jack your body" with a UR riot label. kinda cute, huh? ani record time [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.recordtime.com ph 810.775.1550 fax 810.775.5830 icq# 33610265 want to be on the record time mailing list? send an email message from the address you want to subscribe with "subscribe" in the subject - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Suburban Knight, intimate party
Alright, it's time to let the cat out of the bag. I, together with a good friend, am throwing a small, intimate party with James next week (Monday) in a small venue (more of a student pub) in Ghent, Belgium. We have specifically asked him to do whatever he wants, although a set of oldschool Detroit stylee would be great. It's a very small party (if we get 150 to 200 people I'll be happy, especially on a Monday), but it should be the start of a new concept that focusses on quality again instead of quantity. We cannot pay a full fee or even fly in artists (James is in Belgium currently), but we hope to establish good relations with a number of artists we believe in and take it from there. Since as a hobby I frequently do interviews with artists this is something we want to explore more in the future. So, any listmembers coming over? Greetings y'all, John (aka Technotourist, Belgian division :) P.S. Check http://www.kinkypeople.org for more info -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 7:16 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] suburban knight Yeah too bad he didn't make it to the other cities. I guarantee he would get a loving crowd here. I am glad he got a nice welcome but he deserves better. But then again it's just as well someone with no love for Detroit/UR didn't do it. Vote 1: "DJs Not Trophies" >The one that Dave spoke of was in Perth yesterday, which SK was originally >billed to perform at. It was called the Delirious Summer Festival. I didn't >go. I did see SK on Sat. night though, he was havin a ball behind the decks, >dancing and acknowledging the crowd (I love djs who do this) whilst playing >an eclectic set of house mixed into electro, mixed into techno and back >again to around 200 people (max). It was... well... interesting. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] info on this.....
Yeah, gimme, gimme! J Yess it is one of the earlier Drexciya records, extremly rare (so if anyone who has a spare copy left..;-)) [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Glass Domain >English & Music by Glassware >cat # - 04753 >1991 >A. Shatter Prone >B. Hiccups >C. Faory >D. Interlock > > Who, where and why don't I know this 1? > is it drexciyan perhaps? > > I need information. > > > 154 > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Focus vids requested
Technotourist Belgium agrees! ;-) John -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:29 PM To: 'fab137'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Focus vids requested > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: fab137 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Verzonden: vrijdag 1 december 2000 12:06 > Aan: 313@hyperreal.org > Onderwerp: [313] Focus vids requested > > > > PLEASE... can someone scan the Ford Focus ad and send it to > me? Please? > Please? I'll love you long time.. > > > Me too..PLEASE > > your man in rome.fab I think most none-americans on this list are curious about this commercial... [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] UR NYE
Dear all, I would love to go to London around the New Year's period, but am kinda short on money due to the most expensive year in my life (going to live alone, Detroit-Chicago-Berlin, Pioneer mixer and Yamaha RM1-x). It's the second time I ask this, but it's worth the try. Is there anybody on the list who lives in the London area and who is willing to have me and my girlfriend over for a couple of days (Friday till Monday? I know the timing isn't all that good with New Year and all, but it's always much more fun when you can stay with people who know their way around and who are into the same things as you are. The hospitality will be returned. Dennis and Magda Donnohue can back me on this. I had them over in Ghent last weekend after they had us over in June. So if there is anybody who wants to participate in my little exchange programm, please let me know. My private mail is : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help a poor idealist out here ;-) Thanks people, John P.S. Tom, thanks for the offer; it's still under consideration, but it has been so long since I've been in London that I want to make full use of it (record shops, clubbing, city special for Bassic Groove magazine...) Nottingham is on the list for a later date ;-) -Original Message- From: fab137 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 17, 2000 2:06 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] UR NYE Hi list, is there a web site with info regarding the UR NYE party in london? fab || Web Developer || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || || www.deepend.it || "If we never looked at things and thought what they might be, we'd still be in the tall grass with the apes." Deepend Roma s.r.l. Via C.A. Racchia, 4 - 00195 Roma - ITALY T +39 06 37 51 23 58 F +39 06 37 51 23 26 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Year's Eve UR
Hi 313, I've been hiding on Hotmail for a while, but since I couldn't follow the list anymore I switched back to my workmail. Glad to be back and follow the threads. Big question: I'm seriously considering dropping over for the UR-party on New Year's Eve in London. Is there anybody in the London erea who could have me and my girlfriend over for a couple of days (Friday evening till Monday)? The British pound is at its highest exchange rate ever for us Belgians and our piggy bank got hit over the head already a couple of times this year (cfr. going to live on our own, Detroit/Chicago/Berlin, etc.). We can return the hospitality since we have an spare kingsize bed at our place in Ghent, Belgium. Hope to hear from somebody soon. Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since I'll be out of the office untill Tuesday. Greetz to ya'll, John Osselaer
RE: [313] shine in eindhoven
Small correction: Luke Solomon didn't show up. It was Detroit's LOCUTUS behind the decks playing with James' records Yeah, Detroit in da houze! I have very nice pictures of the event. Whoever wants to receive them (for personal use) mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm scanning the best for Bassic Groove magazine and can CC others. John out P.S. Nice to see other Belgians on the list! -Original Message- From: Jan Claeyssens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:11 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] shine in eindhoven 1° SHINE This Saturday it was Shine in Eindhoven, and with the weather we were having that part was already more than OK. It was a bit difficult to find the exact entrance point to the festival but that was the only thing you could hold against the organization. Once you entered the site (which was situated in the center of Eindhoven (Stadhuisplaats) on a concrete space surrounded by the local authority building and other office blocks) you could easily walk around. Shop around in the small shops (even with good 2nd hand records but hey who wants to walk around all day with 12's even for me that's a bit to much) One thing that was very special about this festival was the fact that in between DJ sets there were live gigs. So after Josh Wink (DJ), Lady Aida, Luke Solomon (spinning with a nice T-shirt : playing Detroit and than an arrow pointing down) or Surgeon (who surprised me with a good melodic Techno Set ) you could see & hear live sets from : Secret Cinema who gave a very strong set, no annoying breaks in between songs, different approach to the songs as the original versions and really interacting with the audience. Good live set. Suburban knight also gave a good live set, smashing some of his « hitsongs » to pieces and coming out with different versions ( virtually irrecognizable) apart from the occasional recognizable chords but good ones. He played a lot of his early UR stuff. Acid junkies unfortunately played while I was watching Trip do brasil but they had certainly managed to capture the audience, the space was moving in unissimo and the audience was whipped into a frenzy when I went to check them out but it was their last song. Away from the mainstage their was a stage with a more leftfield approach ( even with DJ Grasshopper) were I saw the number one 2-Step DJ in holland GROOVEMASTER JOHNSON (That's what the MC told us anyway) good mixing but unfortunately I'm not really swept of my feet by two-step. Another surprise was Trip Do Brasil (Fr) a trio with two percussionists and a DJ, who managed to lock me in their grooves. Check them out if you have a chance. Unfortunately Fabio didn't show up, or he must have become white overnight. JayCee - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OUTRAGE! When action????
In case someone missed my point: the f***ing Jaguar ripoff is in the British top3! Yeah, it is time to burn, time to burn this sh*t to the ground! J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 11:41 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] OUTRAGE! When action Aaaah!!! Maa!!! This requires major action!!! Cornelius, what should we do? John As seen on the NME-site: <
OUTRAGE! When action????
Aaaah!!! Maa!!! This requires major action!!! Cornelius, what should we do? John As seen on the NME-site: <
Ah Paris!
Anything good going on in Paris on Monday or Tuesday?? Gwendal?? John
tv documentaries etc
This all sounds mighty interesting and I would love to have copies of those shows. Is there anyone would could make copies of the docu's and reports they have on video. Mind though that the European video format is not the same as in the US so I'm looking for things I can play on my friend's video (didn't buy one when I moved, ran out of money...). Does anybody have Kraftwerk on video or maybe a live concert on cd? Thanks for the help, John
James Pennington
Hi everybody, During the Love Parade weekend in Berlin I became friends with James Pennington. He will be spending some time in Belgium in August and we are bound to hook up again on a number of occasions. James agreed to an interview. I'm looking for info on him (interviews, facts, ...) to make something really good of it. Can anybody help me out a bit? Thanks, John
Holidaaayyy!
Hi y'all, In half an hour I'm leaving for a two-week holiday so I won't be able to read all your post (home connection is to slow to have 313 arrive there). If someone needs to get in touch with me or needs info or whatever (no, don't try asking for money :) you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] If someone has info on User (Richard Harvey or something...) I could use it because the guy is playing in Holland this Friday and I just might interview him... Send it to the same adress. John P.S. Chloe and Christos: redirect your questions to my home mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What happened to the Alien Disc Dealer from Brazil??? If you are still around here somewhere, mail me at home. Dutchmen, we need to get together again! That's all folks!
RE: [313] 313 t-shirt
Hmm, that adress on the site looks familiar. Wasn't that the same adress as the DEMF? So, is this Mr. Craig's next move?? Any thoughts on this? John -Original Message- From: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2000 3:03 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] 313 t-shirt Hey, has anyone seen this yet? I picked up a flier for it yesterday. Thought it was interesting to see after all the discussion on making a 313 t-shirt. http://www.313clothingco.com/ Benjamin Cuthbert Borders Group, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 734-477-1191 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Which Jay Denham?(drought)
Yep, I second the good words on the Dhrough release. I have it as well, but forgot to mention it. The Berlin sleep deprivation is still causing damage! J P.S. While we are on the Dhrought tip: what do you guys think about the Sativae and Dhrought output? I just love it! I bought Dave Tarrida's Dance Macabre and the new Sativae by The Hacker in Hardwax and that stuff is wicked! I'm also a big fan of Neil Landstrumm, Tobias Schmidt and esp. Justin Berkovi. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 3:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Which Jay Denham?(drought) Drought release essential stuff!!! pretty rare though...hunt it down if u don´t ave - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Alan Oldham comics
Hi Jurren, I talked to Alan a couple of days ago in Berlin and he still has some work to do on the comic. It should be for the end of this year or the beginning of next year. The release of the comic is the start of a subdivision of Pure Sonik which will be called Pure Comics. Alan is also thinking about releasing the comic together with an album by respected techno artists. Some of them have already said 'yes' although there is nothing on paper yet. It should be very interesting though and something worth looking forward to. Good move to order the Kraftwerk book. Also check The Rough Guide To Techno by Tim Barr Hope this helps, John out Ik weet echter niet waar je strips van Alan kan vinden. Ben je op de hoogte van het Break All Barriers-project? Ik ga daar aan meewerken. http://www.breakallbarriers.com Hmm, merk net dat ik nog niet bij de medewerkers sta, zal aan Frank zijn oren moeten trekken ;-) -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 2:35 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Alan Oldham comics On the the Progress Cd by T-1000 it says that a new Alan Oldham book is going to be released this year. Is it out allready, and where can i get any of his comic-books? I really like the drawings he does for Djax, and the other stuf I've seen from him so far. I have a hard time finding any good comics (like Rick Griffin and others), all they seem to sell here in Holland seems to be "Suske en Wiske" and old "Spiderman" issues. I know it's slightly off topic, but I thought I just give it a try. Second: does anyone know of any good books about techno in particular, or electronic music in general? I've read "Techno Rebels" by Dan Sicko, "More brilliant than the Sun" by Kodwo Eshun and "Space is the place" by Szwed (about Sun Ra), and I just ordered "Kraftwerk: From Dusseldorf to the Future" by Tim Barr, but I was hoping to find more. Any books on Herbie Hancock or Miles Davis about the "Bitches Brew" period? Thanks, Jurren Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Which Jay Denham?
Try 'Escape From The Black Planet' and 'Synthesized Society' on Disko B, Fade to Black on Elypsia, everything by Vice on Tresor, The '1964 ep' on Cosmic, lots of stuff on his own label Black Nation. I'm sure Aaron Bennet could help out even more, or Steven T Lammers, John out http://www.diskob.com/a/denham/index.html http://www.elypsia.com (artists) http://www.black-nation.com -Original Message- From: Jorge Velez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 8:40 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Which Jay Denham? Hey, folks. Currently listening to Abe Duque's DiskoB mix Cd and there's this Jay Denham piece on there, "False Hopes", I'm really feeling. Can anyone recommend a particular EP/CD of his stuff? Cheers. Jorge Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] axis 20
Yippie, I'm dropping by there on Monday!! Can I mail these guys? This may sound like a stupid question, but I don't know my way around netshopping all that well... John Could somebody forward me an e-mail adress where I can ask to put a copy aside for me? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:31 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] axis 20 Hardwax have it listed for DM33,90 - about 10 quid! Dan http://www.geocities.com/Paris/1267/index.html http://www.mp3.com/DanButler > -Original Message- > From: Tom Churchill [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 11:29 AM > To: 313 > Subject: [313] axis 20 > > It doesn't matter whether the extortionate price (22 ukp) is due to Axis, > the distributor or the retailer. The fact is that someone is taking the > piss, and there is no way I'm going to shell out for a record that I know > full well should cost an absolute maximum of 15 ukp. It's also kind of up > to > Mills as the label manager to ensure that his fans can get hold of his > records at a reasonable price - he does have a certain amount of power > over > the distributors he sells to and surely he can object to their pricing? As > Sean said, someone somewhere along the chain is taking the piss - > personally > I doubt it's Mills but then he will be benefitting from it, and if anyone > can put it right it's him. > > Just my $0.02... > > Tom > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] french chunes
Ok, while we are busy on the French thread: check this out! Kobayashi records, really banging stuff, but most of their artists are non-French, incl; Belgium's G-Force. http://www.kobayashi-records.com John out (of the office in about half an hour) -Original Message- From: Dennis Donohue [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] french chunes Logistic records are pretty good. i have a few of the Static Drum releases (i believe its Oliver muchelli and john thomas??? Correct me if i'm wrong.) in particular, static drum act three has a constant spot in the record bag. There is also, i believe, a Rob hood release out on Logistic with thomas and hood, (picture of a purple die comes to mind.) Cheers, Dennis >From: Jim Grindle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "'313@hyperreal.org'" <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [313] french chunes >Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:36:21 -0400 > >Speaking of GOOD French music do any of you know Logistic records??? >I met their two label managers at the DEMF (who were very nice and cool, >hello Alexandre & Eric) and got some of there new releases >This stuff is slamming one has a Rob Hood remix >It is mostly in the vein of very tribal Jeff Mills - User- Hardgroove -some >even through in some jazz loops or swing before the floor stomper tracks >start >Check out the site http://www,logisticrecords.com > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Idea,Solution to Question
Consider Belgium (and most of The Netherlands) covered on the editorial side! I'm sure the Dutchies will jump on this train as well! Interviews and party reviews will be no problem! Including pictures! John -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 4:38 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Idea,Solution to Question i can help on any needed editorial and content with in the Detroit/Ann Arbor areai can't commit any real time till end of August/beg of Sept-after Ive moved in&gotten settled. d Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Idea, Solution to Question?
Or do we want this to be bigger than just 313? a more global name? <<< Speaking of global. My radioshow is called Global Warning, meaning that techno is something global, that we are here to stay. Our voice must be heard all over the world. Maybe an idea to start from?>>> Are we trying to take over the world, or just detroit techno? <<< The world is not enough! ;-) Let's take this on an intergalactic level, just to be an a good foot with those alien dudes when they finally drop by. :) No serious, let's make this a global thing, but of course the focus on Detroit must be there as well. I would love to be webmamma peace, holly Alright people, this thing is getting somewhere! Keep those ideas coming! John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Idea, Solution to Question?
Yep, totally agree. We need a 'webmummy' who wants to take care of this business, someone to coordinate all of this. Who wants to sacrifies his/her last minute of spare time? I suggest I'd be somebody from Detroit... Can we already get some response here from people who want to contribute to such a site? Count me in! John -Original Message- From: Nick Walsh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 3:10 PM To: electric seth Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Idea, Solution to Question? I think a 313 site would be better. There're a lot of ppl on this list from all over the world. Underground related stuff is happening in everyone's vicinity. Ppl post a lot of localised info on this list but, a lot of the time, ppl don't read it and just delete it. If major topics were put onto the site (as well as nights and events from all over the world), ppl could view it whenever, it would allow for a more summarised version of this list (more preferable than reading through 30 large posts to get to the point). It'd also reach a wider audience so this could help for getting ppl through the door for newer nights starting up... Everyone is already contributing... We're the only resource for information needed, we just need someone to find a way to present it on the site... l8r, Nick (Dj Pacific:) --- electric seth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > well, here's a simple suggestion (and I'm sure you > had thought of this as > well). I have been in several shops recently who > don't know about new stuff > coming out, and I can think of many others who > wouldn't turn down another > source on info, particularly if it came in one easy > weekly package > > Since the Submerge mailings are so rare as to be > almost useless, hardwax > doesn't have good reviews and the hyperreal network > already has the facility > set up to send out mailings. > Why not put together a weekly mailing (a zine of > sorts) which could be > mailied out to anyone interested...shops, other > zines, and mere fans... from > a more international standpoint > > we'd all get early info, and I'm sure you could > count on most of the people > from various lists to subscribe for a start... in > the interests of > expediency it should probably be left to a few > people in each country to > review the relevant records, who could be recruited > through 313 (I nominate > Tom Magic-feet for the UK, if he'd do it, maybe > double up on the Overload > reviews or something)... I'm sure with a small link > on alt.techno, submerge, > or hardwax the subscriptions would soon pile up and > the labels would find it > especially worthwhile giving promos (since it's an > easy way of hitting the > precise target audience) > > I'm sure it's already being done somewhere, but I > reckon there's enough > knowledge and eloquence on this list to make it > worthwhile... > > I offer my services, in any capacity... > > Seth > > The Electric Press > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Idea, Solution to Question?
Yeah, that was exactly the same thing I was thinking after the thread on journalists and how difficult it is to manage all of this and all the problems involved. A couple of weeks ago there was an idea of setting up a 313-website, but it kinda died out. What about picking up this idea again? And maybe expanding it to a magazine in print... Ok, these are pretty wild ideas and I don't know all that much about making webpages and all that, but I'm willing to contribute interviews, reviews and info on a regular basis. With all the talent hiding on this list it must be possible to make something extraordinary of it. Who wants to expand upon these ideas? John P.S. Second 'Yeah' of the day: what about the 313-shirts? -Original Message- From: JavierDrada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 3:29 AM To: 313 Subject: [313] Idea, Solution to Question? O.k. I see there are allot of people on this list that are pushing a good thing, lets try to do something,,Why don't we set up a coalition of some sort, lets say are own Underground Monopoly to counteract the majors, how about we put our heads together and combine as a whole lets developed some sort of massive Underground Network and use our own resources to publicize our own reviews and what not. Lets give them a run for their money..any ideas, allot of us host our own sites, lets use whatever tools we have available to expand this baby, lets take 313 and Hyperreal to the next level, it's all been started lets build on what we have. Only serious headz needed, please no flakes. j.d. http://www.undergroundcommittee.com 504.837.4783 tel 504.553.5628 tel 504.553.5627 fax Keepin' it real, keepin' it UNDERGROUND..Underground Committee.com Home of Detroit Influence & Reflections - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] reviews etc..
It's so heartwarming to see there are so many like-minded people out there doing the same thing, encountering the same problems, having the same ideas and drives. I also have an own radio show. I've been doing radio for about 5 years now. The current show Global Warning has been running for about two and a half years on a dance station in Ghent Belgium. You can't imagine how hard it can be to maintain an underground show even on a dance station. Luckily the man who runs the station (but doesn't own it) has always supported me and protects me from the real bosses. They don't get the music I play and don't see any value in broadcasting interviews with int. techno-artists and stuff like that. The techno community in the region of Ghent however is pretty happy with the show and that is what keeps me going. I also promote artists. I drag along mix-cd's and bio's from G-Force, the best Belgian technoproducer. I do good words for people like Alan Oldham, TP, Anthony Rother, Justin Berkovi, etc., all people I believe in and who diserve to get some attention. I'm in a pretty good position to do this. I frequently do reviews on parties in Belgium and Holland and I know most of the promotors of good parties. They are usually interested in your opinion. Today I received a mail from a promotor in Holland. He was at the DEMF and filmed. We met in Detroit, which is kinda strange because we only live 200km from eachother. Today he mentioned he is going to organise parties on a more frequent basis and was wondering if I could get him in contact with some artists. This is the stuff I love, getting people I believe to play at a party. There is no money in this for me whatsoever, on the contrary (I sometimes send out mix-cd's and tapes with my own money), but the simple fact of being able to do this and the gratitude from the artists who get booked and promoted is more than rewarding. I hope I can expand upon this activity in the future. And 'yes', it would be nice if there was a way of getting paid for this in one way or another, but there are already too many people in this bizz who are solely in it for the money. That's why we can make a difference by not caring for the money and focussing on what it is all about: the music and the people behind it. I was wondering if there are listmembers out there who would like to have one of their mixes broadcasted on my radioshow? We could also start exchanging material like interviews and dj-mixes. What about it? Mail me on this subject both on this adress and on [EMAIL PROTECTED] John out -Original Message- From: pietro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 7:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] reviews etc.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >For me it's a hobby (and 'no' I'm not in >it for the money, I don't care). I usually >come home from work around 8pm. By the time >I have finished eating and checking my mail >it's already pretty late. It's quite >frustrating this time problem. Does anybody >have similar experiences? John.. i'm in a similar situation. I work full-time as a Civil Engineering Technologist, and as a "hobby" i manage to write reviews, host a show, and promote the artists/labels that deserve recognition. I've never been paid to do any of this, nor do i have intentions to be paid. I try my best to mention releases and put together the odd mini-review, but as you stated above, it's difficult when you're also trying to enjoy the summer and relax a bit. 313 content: Sean Deason's new "Allegory & Metaphor" on Intuit Solar is recommended next to Denvery McCarthy's "Roughage" on Statra, and T. Millar's split 12" on Mad Monkey Rec. Maybe not all "Detroit" styled, but techno in some shape or form with a sharp edge. ; ) Pietro. _ pietro da sacco :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cjam 91.5 fm saturday mid-2am (est) 9745 lynngrove cr, windsor, ontario, n8r 1b8, canada grooves :: www.groovesmag.com igloo ~coming soon :: www.skimo.com --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: [ur-records] Question???
Hi Diana, I hear you sister! Getting reviews published is hell esp. when you're only writing them as part of your hobby. The staff writers always go first. So if you do ten reviews, about two get in. And, oh yes, I know the syndrome of people promising you promo's and never sending them. Even after sending the published interview you did with them and reviews on their releases you bought in the store, they still don't care. I hate that. Why don't they just say 'Sorry, I don't have any more promotional copies to spare'. I would never be mad for that, but now you just keep on running to the mailbox hoping that there will be some cool stuff in there. If we were in this for the money or profit we would have long given up right? Keep writing! John ugh.reviews.when i decided to concentrate on school (novel idea eh?)and work 2 jobs, i went to just writing reviews for on-lines.ive been reviewing strictly now for about 2 years for 2 of em. i would say my one big complaint for reviews is getting the material from the people and then finding a place to post it. whenever i see people i always say 'send me your record,so i can review and get it out there' and maybe only a few do send it to me (after taking my info) and once i do get it, i then have to have shop it around and find a place/mag for it to be posted because 1.the editor has to feel someone cares enough to read the review 2.some one else might already be reviewing it. I also always listen to the full piece of material (i dont assume the whole cd sounds like track one,so i dont stop there),which takes time.For me, writing reviews is also like putting your head freely on the chopping block and giving the public the ax. Though i always try and be positive, some sort of informed critism is always needed-which i hate doing-and will always piss some one off. so...now that ive done that semi-off topic tangent,any support lists for music journos? ;0) diana Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: [ur-records] Question???
Derek wrote: Now, as for people who get records because they work at a magazine or something, thats a different story. These people should DEFINANTLY make their voices heard. >>>I totally agree. Now just give me God's phone number and I'll aks him to make every day twice as long and He also should abolish the human need to sleep and relax. I'm 1m83 and weigh 54kilo's. Just a little bit more work and stress and I'll be able to take off in a gust of wind! All of this to say that I very much would like to do reviews on the (few) records I receive, but I simply don't have the time for it. Some of the guys on the list are full-time journalists for music magazines and that's a different story. For me it's a hobby (and 'no' I'm not in it for the money, I don't care). I usually come home from work around 8pm. By the time I have finished eating and checking my mail it's already pretty late. It's quite frustrating this time problem. Does anybody have similar experiences? Oh, BTW, this Axis 20, is it already available in Europe (Belgium)? John P.S. How the hell do you manage to get packages from Submerge? That would be a dream come true! > > >From: "JavierDrada" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: [ur-records] Question??? > >Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:26:11 -0500 > > > >How come certain trends on 313 are so easy to follow while others are just > >ignored, why I ask this is because I know that there are more people on > >this > >list that get packages from Submerge or stumbled on certain pre-released > >material but it is hardly ever discussed. I think one person shared their > >views on the new V-Max and zero shared anything on the new KMS. What's up, > >I > >think it is our duty and responsibility to discuss this material!!! Why do > >you think we get advanced copies? > > > >So that we can spread the word and prepare and let people know that, hey > >this stuff is gonna be out soon and you know what it is pretty dope, and > >you > >know what else you should go out and pick yourself up a copy or hound down > >your local record shop cause we need to support the UNDERGROUND, what's up > >folks? Is it me or is there something wrong here? > > > >j.d. > > > >http://www.undergroundcommittee.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tresor Love Parade line-up changes (positive ones!)
I thought this might interest some people. Oh baby, Richie is playing as well. I'm already considering skipping a night's sleep just not to miss a thing! Hope to see some list members there (already know about one) John Tresor. Love Parade 2000 - The Climax > > > The Climax - Soundcheck > Thursday, 6th of July, 11:00 pm > Globus: > Tin (grow! Records / Berlin) > John Acquaviva (Definitive, K7 / Canada) > Tresor: > Headquarters > Admission: 20,- DM > > The Climax I > Friday, 7th of July, 11:00 pm > Globus: > 11:00 - 02:00 Wimpy (Berlin) > 02:00 - 05:00 Carl Cox (In-tec / London) > 05:00 - End Tom Clark (GPM / Berlin) > Tresor: > 11:00 - 01:00 Dafyr (Berlin) > 01:00 - 03:00 Steve Rachmad aka Sterac (Tresor Rec. / Amsterdam) > 03:00 - 05:00 Surgeon (Dynamic Tension, Tresor Rec. / Birmingham) > 05:00 - End Steve D. (Berlin) > Admission: 30,- DM, advance booking 32,- DM (+ advance booking fee) > > The Climax II > Saturday, 8th of July, 10:00 pm (Outdoor stage starting 12:00 pm) > Globus: > 10:00 - 01:00 Senze (grow!Rec. / Berlin) > 01:00 - 04:00 Blake Baxter (Tresor Rec. / Detroit) > 04:00 - 07:00 Jay Denham House Set! (Black Nation, Disko B, Tresor Rec. / > Kalamazoo) > 07:00 - End Djoker Daan (BPitch Ctrl. / Berlin) > Tresor: > 10:00 - 02:00 Dry (Rampe D / Berlin) > 02:00 - 05:00 Claude Young (deta Rec., Djax Up / Detroit) > 05:00 - 07:00 James Ruskin (Tresor Rec. Blueprint / London) > 07:00 - End Dash (Rampe D / Berlin) > Outdoor Stage: > 12:00 - 02:00 Rok (Mueller Rec. / Berlin) > 02:00 - 02:40 Super_Collider live PA (Brighton) > 02:40 - 05:00 DJ T1000 (Tresor Rec. / Detroit) > 05:00 - 07:00 James Pennington (UR / Detroit) > 07:00 - 09:00 Cristian Vogel (Tresor Rec. / Brighton) > Admission: 40,- DM, advance booking 42,- DM (+ advance booking fee) > > Sven Väth's Tresor Park > Sunday, 9th of July, 10:00 am - 08:00 pm > Outdoor Stage: > 10:00 - 12:00 Frank Lorber (Cocoon / Frankfurt/Main) > 12:00 - 02:00 Richie Hawtin (Minus / Windsor/Canada) > 02:00 - 08:00 Sven Väth (Cocoon / Frankfurt/Main) > Admission: 45,- DM, advance booking 47,- DM (+ advance booking fee) > (Tickets are also valid for the Sunday evening party!!!) > > The Climax III > Sunday, 9th of July, 08:00 pm > Globus: > 08:00 - 11:00 Dave (Mueller Rec., Raum...Musik / Berlin) > 11:00 - 02:00 Dan Bell (7th City, Accelerate / Detroit) > 02:00 - 04:00 Claude Young House Set! (deta recordings, Djax Up / Detroit) > 04:00 - 08:00 Dole (BCC / Berlin) > 08:00 - End tba. > Tresor: > 08:00 - 11:00 Eva Cazal (Berlin) > 11:00 - 01:00 James Pennington (UR / Detroit) > 01:00 - 03:00 Jay Denham (Black Nation, Disko B, Tresor Rec. / Kalamazoo) > 03:00 - End Recyver Dogs (Berlin) > Admission: 25,- DM >
RE: [313] Re: online retail
I'll be hitting Hardwax the Monday after the Love Parade. Auwch, poor wallet! :) John Could somebody pass me the exact adress again? Thanks! -Original Message- From: *** ASKEW [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 8:48 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Re: online retail David wrote: >sanity.com.au has some really good stuff (someone there really likes >Detroit stuff) but their response sucks. I've been waiting 3 months now for >11 Phases, 3MB vs Juan Atkins and Concept 12. All quoted at 4- >6 weeks. The recent U.R sleeves have some pertinent information about chain stores like Sanity. Good for your wallet/purse, not good for the music scene. Support the stores that support the music. Viva Hardwax! ~Askew Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Fwd: (G-TECH) dj horsepower
I can only second the notion that Steve is a superb guy. I haven't heard him play yet and that bugs me. Steve, send me a mix-cd of yours with your bio, I'll do a good word for you in Belgium and Holland! Contact me privately for my adress. John P.S. Mixcd (or Minidisc)will also be played on my radioshow. P.P.S. Yes, he kinda looks like mr. Aphex Twin -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:50 AM Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Fwd: (G-TECH) dj horsepower I'll second Mike's nod. Steve _is_ a great guy and a very talented one too (a rare mix)...not to mention he's a smart & clever one at that.I've known HP since the days at MSU. He tolerated me hanging out in the studios during his radio show, asking questions and pestering guests. Be aware though-he's slowing morphing into an Aphex Twin look alike;) and can be bribed with Taco Bell;) I think every one who knows steve couldn't be happier for him that he's getting to travel & play. d >From: Intermodal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: 313@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [313] Fwd: (G-TECH) dj horsepower >Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:54:48 -0400 > >Hello, > >It is nice to see friends getting props. HP aka Steve Lammers has been >mixing for years, and used to host the Mechanical Pulse radio show back >in the mid 90's at MSU. These days he is resident at Forans pub on >Wednesday nights in Detroit. He played throughout Europe last year in >clubs in Amsterdam, Cologne, and most notably Tresor in Berlin. He will >be headlining on the next two Fridays at Science. Steve is a good guy >and he bangs, definitely check him out if you get a chance. > >For further booking information on his trip to Europe, contact me at >[EMAIL PROTECTED] He will be in Finland for a week and is >interested in further bookings in northern Europe. > >Thanks, >Mike Taylor > >PS, Please FWD this to G-tech > > > >hmm we've got a big techno/electronic music event coming up > > >(http://www.koneisto.com) and there's a guy called dj horsepower coming >in.. > > >i've heard of this name before but can't somehow come up with where and >when > > >and who he is. > > > > > >any information about him that you have that i could pass on? > > > > > >L > > > > > >-- > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [x-rust] http://www.x-rust.org/alkemist/ > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >-- > Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://homes.arealcity.com/Intermodal/index.html > http://www.mp3.com/TheMSProject > http://www.egroups.com/group/tech-gear > "Occasional collisions unexpectedly encountered determine > the direction of a lifetime. " Elias Canetti > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ten...speakin of TP
I must agree. I have been playing the cd a lot as well and I broadcasted the first cd on my radioshow about two weeks ago. I'll have the second cd broadcasted while I'm in Berlin for the Love Parade (well, actually for Tresor). Damn TP, I didn't know about your gig in Munster last weekend. When is the next one? John -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 12:01 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Ten...speakin of TP surprised no one hasn't mentioned anything about TP's 'Ten' Double CD. This one hasnt left my car since I got it at DEMF (thanks tp!)..and that Crystal Waters track...woo hoo!! TP-have you thought about doing something on the NYC Body&Soul vibe-something on sunday afternoons from like 5-10pm? no booz-just dancing and music.I can't think of any one better to do it in Detroit! goodluck to you..and being stuck in Newark Airport=yuck. d np:konkretejungle Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Older people's views on detriot?
Same story here. My mom just turned 50 and over the years I have been playing so many cd's (my turntables used to be in a seperate room above the garage) in the morning (to get my engine going) that she became used to it and sometimes she said: 'I really like this, what is it?'. Thanks to years of enthousiastically talking about my idols and the parties I went to, my mom knows a lot of artists by name and she's pretty well-informed (for a mom that is...). I'm really lucky she let me go to all these parties even if it was far away or abroad. Now I live together with my girlfriend in the city of Ghent, but I'm still gratefull she never attempted to supress my musical ideas. Thanks mom!! John -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 1:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Older people's views on detriot? >From my parents just simply being around me they've learned alot about the music. My dad is in his 50's and completely knows who Kenny Larkin and Richie Hawtin are. My mom likes Theorem (dales's) stuff too. I had Terrence Parker's 'Ten',CD one, playing in my car the other day and my dad said 'can we listen to that on our next road trip?!' They like the housier stuff better, and like some of the minimal and downtempo stuff as well. Though I must say, however, my mom has a small heart attack every time I come home with a big brown bag or records-but she thinks of it as just the thing "i collect" :) i love my parents:) diana >From: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "313" <313@hyperreal.org> >Subject: [313] Older people's views on detriot? >Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:44:33 +0200 > >Hi everyone hope you are keeping well! I was just remembering a friends >Granddad (God bless his soul) saying how the music blew his mind sometimes, >but asked if it could be played lower! :-) (The guy was in his 70's). Do >any of you have similar stories of older generations views on Detroit? I'd >be interested to hear. Peace 2 all. > >Ben. > > >- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
That should have been SID 5 is the one by Drexciya. Damn I really need to get more sleep! J -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records Isn't SID the one with Drexciya? I really like that one. I brought it home from our trip to Detroit. I didn't know there was a SID 6 or 7. John -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:23 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 AM To: mkarora Subject: RE: [313] Detroit records My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Scott > -Original Message- > From: mkarora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:52 PM > To: Roger John Lesinski Jr > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Detroit records > > > off on a tangent already... ehem. > > recently i picked up a UR record (sc006?..don't know what # it is) anyway, > you can only get it @submerge. very funky. one track contains a > sample of some classic i can't put my finger on. first i was thinking it > was a zapp and rogers sample, now i'm thinking that it reminds me a lot of > kool keith's 'master of the game'. oh well. i also picked up a record on > vmax that has the double grooves. not entirely rare or my favorite, but > fun to play. > > -m > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Roger John Lesinski Jr wrote: > > > > > > > In an attempt to break up child games and all the fighting that > has been going > > on in the list, I have a question to all. > > > > What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite > Detroit related record > > that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white > labels, but I am > > talking about those that might have never been released, > dubplates, etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records
Isn't SID the one with Drexciya? I really like that one. I brought it home from our trip to Detroit. I didn't know there was a SID 6 or 7. John -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:23 PM To: 313 Subject: [313] FW: [313] Detroit records -Original Message- From: Scott MacInnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 10:19 AM To: mkarora Subject: RE: [313] Detroit records My most rare (at least 313 most rare).. UR SID #5 and #7... not sure if they ever did a repressing but I know this series was severly limited... Any info anyone??? Scott > -Original Message- > From: mkarora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:52 PM > To: Roger John Lesinski Jr > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Detroit records > > > off on a tangent already... ehem. > > recently i picked up a UR record (sc006?..don't know what # it is) anyway, > you can only get it @submerge. very funky. one track contains a > sample of some classic i can't put my finger on. first i was thinking it > was a zapp and rogers sample, now i'm thinking that it reminds me a lot of > kool keith's 'master of the game'. oh well. i also picked up a record on > vmax that has the double grooves. not entirely rare or my favorite, but > fun to play. > > -m > > On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Roger John Lesinski Jr wrote: > > > > > > > In an attempt to break up child games and all the fighting that > has been going > > on in the list, I have a question to all. > > > > What is the Rarest record that you own and most favorite > Detroit related record > > that you own? I know a lot of people get early release white > labels, but I am > > talking about those that might have never been released, > dubplates, etc.. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Burrito Boys recordings
A friend of mine is going to receive a cd with recordings by the Burrito Boys (Karl 'O Connor and Dave Summer??). Anybody who knows this and can shed some light on it? I was told that it is electro, a bit in the style of Drexciya. John
RE: [313] RE: Fannon Flowers
Yeah, Some friends told me to check that one, but I haven't got the chance yet. I don't think I will be able to find it anymore, but it should be good. I met Fannon on the DEMF and he seems like a pretty fun guy. Can somebody get me the e-mail adress of Aron Bennet? (Mister Lammers?:) He is a really nice guy and I need to get in touch with him concerning a friend of him who's going to organize seminars on techno in Chicago (or something like that). Sounds interesting and I want to check whether he knows about Muzik&Machine: http://www.musikundmaschine.com/ . John -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 5:19 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: [313] RE: Fannon Flowers how about that Jay Denham VS Fannon Flowers. eh, thats a pretty new release too. i think it came out 2 or 3 months ago. good stuff. jeff "THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY" -George Clinton - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Timo Maas
Hmm, that's not the same guy!! That Timo Maas dude is a trance 'artist' while MAAS is the project name of Ewan Pearson. http://www.somarecords.com/?Artists/Profiles/maas John -Original Message- From: Todd Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 8:21 PM To: detroit science Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Timo Maas Is this the same guy who used to produce for Commander Tom's Noom Records? I saw him in Toronto and he played trance (3 years ago). He's changed I take it? I've listened to the stuff he put out on Soma, and it still has and almost trancelike edge (any comments?, further releases? indications of why I'm seeing his name so much but not remembering him as anything special?) Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] detroit science wrote: > platinum in windsor is working on it, not sure if they have date locked down > yet. will pass along info as i get it. > > take care, > linda g > > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <313@hyperreal.org> > >Subject: [313] Timo Maas > >Date: Wed Jun 21 08:53:01 2000 > > > >Hey there... > >Any ideas on Timo Maas visiting Detroit??? He's got the madd fodder > >style... > > > > > >*Thanks to everyone that gave me insight on NYC. I had a fabulous time > >there...it's like fuel... I am going back in the fall. > > > >..I have traveled to many fab cities...but there is still something so > >special about Detroit, that makes my pride smile. > > > >Thanks! > > Kelly > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Old recording techniques...
What tape hiss is concerned: this one Belgian producer, Dj Valium aka Val usually copies his new tracks on really lousy tapes from a cheap supermarket before re-recording them... He's a bit crazy, but a fun guy and he already released on labels such as Teknotica and Int. Dj Gigolo's. John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 4:26 PM To: Gwendal Cobert; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Old recording techniques... on 6/20/00 4:37 AM, Gwendal Cobert at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> I'd rather listen to lo-fi tracks with tape hiss, tracks that >> have emotion >> and trying, than to listen to these clinical super produced >> 909-kick tracks. > Talking about which... I know these two are not Detroit artists, but are > there any Detroit artists doing such a great and interesting job as Pole and > Muslimgauze when it comes to playing with cracks, errors, add tape hiss etc Try listening to BVL's set: http://proto.groovetech.com/mk-demf.rxml?file=/demf/underground/day1/undergr oundday1-billvanloo.rm Bill is not locked into the specific palette of sounds (pole filters, vinyl pops, digital artifacts), but much of the inspiration for his music comes from dub-savvy producers in the "glitch" or "clicks+cuts" genres. I've really been enjoying this style lately, and Bill's set came as a very nice surprise. A promising debut, and I'm sure there's more to come. -- There4IM - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Re: DJAX Up Book??
It's the history of ten years Djax-Up, with lots of artwork ( a lot by a certain mister Alan D Oldham..:), lots of pictures, info about artists etc. also a lot on the sublabels of Djax-Up. The book is mainly an artwork kinda thing, but it's done extremey nice! Djax has an extremely nice website, you should check it out: http://www.djax Go to Ten Years Djax for more info on the book! John -Original Message- From: Tom Churchill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 1:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313 Subject: [313] Re: DJAX Up Book?? Peter: > Did I miss something or has no one mentioned this booK? > > I found it to be a very cool item... comes with a CD, too. What's it about? Who's it written by? Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] 313 Madness!!
Well, that sums up about my idea about all the crap I had to delete from my mailbox the last two weeks as well! Word! As to the discussion about hard techno versus soulfull Detroit stuff: I have both styles in my crates and tons of other stuff ranging from ambient, over wacko stuff by Neil Landstrumm and Justin Berkovi, over electro including Kraftwerk to Drumcodes, The Advent, Johannes Heil etc. I also have quite a lot of house and old stuff like Gary Numan, disco, etc. Be a lttle bit open to all kinds of music and you'll go happier through life. Sometimes I have people over when I sell a couple of my records. It's a pitty to see they only want a certain style and don't even want to listen to anything else. It usually takes them a couple of years to become more open-minded. The longer you have been following this music (and its predecessors) the easier it is to adopt this attitude because you know where it all comes from. I guess we need to give the youngsters who just came into this fascintating world some credit, but the brainless activity that has been displayed on the list for the last two weeks was just too bad. John As far as I am concerned there's good music and bad music in all genres with a number of shades of grey between both. -Original Message- From: Niall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 3:58 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 313 Madness!! I'm sorry, I was going to keep quiet about this but I'm simply flabbergasted!! I've been away for the past week on a short holiday and, deliberately, not been near a computer to check my mailbox. I left the discussions with everyone raving about the overall success of the DEMF as well as offering constructive insights as to how improvements could be made and how certain performances were "better" than others in some very valid opinions. Lots of excitement and a general buzz around the D and where we're all heading with it. (Big cheers to Bill VanLoo for a particularly excellent report!) I return today to a load of...shite (frankly) about racism, trance, gabber/hardcore and the "death of Detroit"?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? I have now been on this list for quite a while, but only speak up when I'm really moved to say something...this is now: Racism - never heard such shite in my life. When I'm in a record shop I'm focusing on the sound of the record, the music, the funk. I often have no idea who has made the record, where they come from or what they look like - it makes absolutely no difference! Yes, I agree that the most influential techno (and house) has come from black artists, but who gives a fuck? Let's just remember a certain techno producer's definition of techno as "like Kraftwerk and George Clinton stuck in an elevator...", that says it all for me...integration, acceptance, innovation - NO BARRIERS. Gabber/Hardcore - Detroit music is not just about clubland. Techno has always had a wider definition than other forms of "dance music" in my opinion. Yes, it has its basis and general market on the dancefloor, but one of the reasons I am so passionate about techno is that it is transcends that environment...think Galaxy to Galaxy, Icon, just about all of Songs of Food and Revolutionary Art. Unlike all this stupidly hard and fast hardcoresque stuff, you don't need to be pumped full of amphetamine (or worse) or any other drug to get it. Music affects a person on many levels and dancing is a spontaneous expression of all those emotions. If the "music" is only intended as a pulsating, hard as fuck, agressive kick-drum, then that's all the emotion you'll get. Mr Dance Extasy (ha ha), I really am not in the business of dissing people and consider myself open minded about ALL forms of music, but you are simply a sad, drugged-up little boy and have no place to comment on music as you evidently don't understand it, any of it. Trance - seems that ship is now sinking anyway. Trance is just crap pop music (in my opinion), now in the hands of the corporates and trundled out to club ponses who go to these "super-clubs" to be seen and admired with the music as some insignificant factor in the precedings. No soul, no funk, just one blue print track that everyone clones to their own String-pad preset (no. 1 usually) on the latest Korg trance machine, as they've only owned for 1 week, after seeing Paul Van Dyk miming with one on Top of the Pops. Death of Detroit music - Stagnant for the past 9 years, I'm not even going to merit that kind of blanket ignorance with a response...you all know. As for our friend that doesn't seem to know the difference between trance and techno; stop whinging, open your ears, shut your mouth and you might learn. The thing that's so compelling about real techno, I think, is that you can't define it. There are no rules, just innovation and a relentless, creative search for new ideas. It seems to me that techno has taken influences from all overthe world
RE: [313] Frankfurt scene
Whoops, ambient releases, esp. ambient stuff. That's like two times the same thing. Aarggh, it's Monday and you don't have to tell me why I hate that. So, as I tried to say: GEM Office has decent releases esp. their ambient/downtempo stuff. John (back to the land of dreams) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 2:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Frankfurt scene I believe Patrick Lindsey is actually from Austria, Vienna if I'm not mistaken... General Electronic Music is also from Frankfurt and they have some great ambient releases esp. the ambient stuff! John -Original Message- From: c myster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 11:38 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Frankfurt scene Harthouse was(is?) in Offenbach, Germany according to 1996 "the Phat Jive" Sleeve Where's Patrick Lindsey from? He's one funky mofo. What's he up to now? > Wasn't Harthouse based in Frankfurt as well? Eye-Q? Derrick's Strings of life b side still slayin me after all these years. Especially the unnamed track in the middle. 909+Flanger+Derrick's funkin funk+a little more effects!= timeless techno oops i said the T word.:P works great into some Mplant stuff and out of any mills. or anything else for that matter. Get to spin hard and/or funky technoee stuff in front of mainstream audience tommorrow should be interesting to see reaction to some classic Saunderson, Mills, Pullen, etc. tracks. so if anyone's around White Bear Lake, Minnesota manana. Check Me out. Bouncin my body to the box on this list since 96 Mystro-- YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Frankfurt scene (was : 'Trying to recreate something th at's long gone')
Gaetek is in fact Gaetano Parisio and he's Italian for sure (Napels). I did an interview with him some time ago for Bassic Groove and his English was a bit funny. Those who are interested can get the answers to the interview sent to them (for personal use only of course). John -Original Message- From: Todd Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 16, 2000 8:22 PM To: Nick Walsh Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Frankfurt scene (was : 'Trying to recreate something that's long gone') Could have sworn Gaetek was Italian no? Other conform artists, Advent (UK) Qmen (Italy), Marco Carola (Italy). I think David Squillace is the only person from Germany who has produced on this label. Actually just confirmed Conform is Gaetek's label from Italy. todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Walsh wrote: > --- Gwendal Cobert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > inextricably linked. The Frankfurt-Berlin-Detroit > > > Trans-Atlantic connection > > ho ho... I'm not trying here to add a point to this > > ongoing thread, but just > > curious : I still have some difficulty attaching the > > artists to city > > scenes - Detroit I see - Berlin I see (basically I > > would put there Tresor, > > Basic Channel, Chain Reaction...), but Frankfurt - > > what are the most famous > > artists and labels from this city ? > > Famous artists and labels from Frankfurt? Hmmm... > Gaetek is from Frankfurt and so are all the other > Conform artists... I think > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send instant messages with Yahoo! Messenger. > http://im.yahoo.com/ > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Frankfurt scene
I believe Patrick Lindsey is actually from Austria, Vienna if I'm not mistaken... General Electronic Music is also from Frankfurt and they have some great ambient releases esp. the ambient stuff! John -Original Message- From: c myster [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2000 11:38 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Frankfurt scene Harthouse was(is?) in Offenbach, Germany according to 1996 "the Phat Jive" Sleeve Where's Patrick Lindsey from? He's one funky mofo. What's he up to now? > Wasn't Harthouse based in Frankfurt as well? Eye-Q? Derrick's Strings of life b side still slayin me after all these years. Especially the unnamed track in the middle. 909+Flanger+Derrick's funkin funk+a little more effects!= timeless techno oops i said the T word.:P works great into some Mplant stuff and out of any mills. or anything else for that matter. Get to spin hard and/or funky technoee stuff in front of mainstream audience tommorrow should be interesting to see reaction to some classic Saunderson, Mills, Pullen, etc. tracks. so if anyone's around White Bear Lake, Minnesota manana. Check Me out. Bouncin my body to the box on this list since 96 Mystro-- YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] 6.21.00,detroit slaps nyc
Hmm, I'm used to putting other stuff in my pipe... ;-) John out , peace! -Original Message- From: Diana Potts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 5:55 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] 6.21.00,detroit slaps nyc WTF: A gallery showing of art and jungle stylins from Detroit artists, DJs and 2 Cali MCs, featurin the work of your host Tristan Eaton. His brother Matt will be spinnin-and if you haven't seen or heard Matt spin Jungle...YOU NEED TO WhereTF:CBGB Gallery WhenTF:630pm-1030pm, Wednesday 6/21/00 Detroit/NYC posse in full effect. word is bond,yo. put that in your 313techno pipe and smoke it (;)) diana imagine.conceive.create.recycle. http://www.geocities.com/digitaleyedentity Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Overseas members
Concerning the overseas members like the Dutchmen and myself: I hope we will also be able to purchase the T-shirts and get them send to us. John (just making sure...) Entries 1; 2 and 10 are great, but the others are nice as well. Hell, it's difficult to choose...
RE: [313] sending messages to 313
Ever considered the fact that Jeff just might be on a holiday? I don't see why he should get kicked off. He's a decent guy! J -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 7:16 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: RE: [313] sending messages to 313 yes...everyone iswe determined that the other dayi think it calls for a boot. where is the moderator when you need him. jeff "THOU SHALT REMEMBER THE FUNK AND KEEP IT HOLY" -George Clinton > -Original Message- > From: Nathan [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 10:04 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: [313] sending messages to 313 > > hi all > > is anyone else getting this message sent to them after they post a > message? > > Sorry. Your message could not be delivered to: > > Jeff Sanford (Mailbox or Conference is full.) > > thanks > > nathan > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hell or Afrika Bambaataa
I tend to agree. Dj Hell is very special. But he looks like hell! I'm a techno-affectionado, but I also like Busta Rhymes. That intro to Extinction Level Event (about the year 2000 and all the evil that will come from it) is the gloomiest intro I've ever heard and I have used it on several occasions to start off a mix. John -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 1:32 AM To: 313 Detroit Subject: Re: [313] Hell or Afrika Bambaataa >When he played for a crew I was working with in Detroit in '98 he wasn't all >that. It was cool to get to see a living legend in the flesh, especially >'cause i got to pick him up from the airport and talk w/him a little (and >bring him KFC, which WAS IN HIS CONTRACT). But his set wasn't all that, he >played the latest commercial Hip-Hop (Busta Rhymes, Lil Kim) and he didn't >even mix, just played tracks back to back and intro-faded sometimes. Then, >I'm not sure if it was a dig at all the white kids in attendance (the crowd >was mainly vanilla) he played Areosmith and Guns and Roses. WTF? On the >other hand, there has been numerous occasions where Helll has ripped me a >new arsehole. I very much doubt if that was the intention - if you've followed Bambaataa's career really closely or read interviews you'll understand that he doesn't see music in terms of segregation and he probably believes that what Aerosmith and Guns And Roses do arises from the blues, which was Black culture, so he is probably trying to show people the source of much of our popular culture. He promotes diversity and open-mindedness. That's his platform. The same dialectic was at work when he took Kraftwerk - inspired by James Brown - and turned it into Planet Rock. That said, I can't stand those 80s rock bands and I wouldn't want to listen to them. DJ Hell is one of my absolute favourite DJs and has his own unique 'gigolo' style - a mix of Germanic and US influences with the almost camp aesthetic/humour of Kraftwerk. He plays lots of electro and the occasional disco through to Mills. He is just fabulous. If you haven't seen him before, I would recommend him. There isn't anything wrong with Busta Rhymes either, commercial or not. :) He is an innovator - and Hell is a fan of his, actually. Play track 6 on Busta's last LP and tell me that intro doesn't sound like Millsian techno. You could cut that up that intro into a quick mix very easily. But, alas, I digress. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Ritchie Hawtin
That's RICHIE without the extra 't'. Thank you. John, that JOHN without the extra 'O' (For those who remember ;-) -Original Message- From: 0 0 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 4:57 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [313] Ritchie Hawtin >No, he doesent always have the funk (but sometimes he does), and I dont >think >thats his main focus either. He's on a different mission in my opionion, >and >when it comes to painting distant, cold, alien soundscapes no one can >compare. It's all been done before!! Theres plenty of 'industrial' shit knocking about! Proper Coldness! Theres no real attituide there in Ritchies stuff.. Some of the FUSE stuff was OK, but when I heard 'Smak' I was hoping that he wasn't referring to the drug, that would of been a JOKE! zip Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
313 Website
Second.with the obvious exception of Dan, I don't know if anyone here has written anything about the music be it non-fiction, fiction, poetry, etc. I've been thinking about writing some academic stuff as well as some fiction.is there interest in having a website that encompasses writing and art about techno from the 313 crowd? peace lks COUNT ME IN! I CAN PROVIDE INTERVIEWS, ETC. I BELIEVE THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE LIST WHO COULD MAKE INTERESTING CONTRIBUTIONS TO SUCH A SITE. AND I THINK OUR BELOVED ALAN OLDHAM WOULD MIND HELPING THE SITE WITH BOTH A COLUMN AND SOME GRAPHICS (?) GREAT IDEA! JOHN - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Carl Craig in Australia
Does anybody have an idea how long mr. Craig is staying in Australia? He is supposed to play Saturday in the Belgian Fuse-club and that was just perfect for me to interview him for Bassic Groove concerning the festival (and the rest of his amazing career). The boys from Fuse told me that it would be hard to get him back from Australia in time So what's the story? John -Original Message- From: Chloe Sasson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 12, 2000 9:01 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] DETROIT ALLSTARS I am pleased to say that SAturday night in Sydne was a success. Well worth the fifty bucks shelled out for the likes of Carl Craig and Claude Young. With Carl Craig playing only an hour of his supposed 90 min set becuase he was late ... dissappointment - and I can't say I enjoyed the two dancing bimbos on the stage. QUestion: who are the paperclip people? Are they a constant or always changing group??? But on to Claude Young... AMAZING! The stuff he did on the turntables was unbelievable and he had the crowd going for the whole night. 10/10!! PS. Any recordings of the event?? Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ich bin ein Berliner???
Hi, Just realised that I'm already far too late to get most of the things arranged for the Love Parade weekend (Yes Nick, I'm going, but it's more for Tresor than for the Parade). I was wondering if there are any listmembers who are from Berlin? If so I would enormously appreciate it if they could get in touch with me, both on this adress and on [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) because I really need some help finding a place to crash for a day or three. Danke!! John (Technotourist Belgium)
RE: [313] Juan and DEMF??
Hi John, John here ;-) Again thanks for all the things you and Karie did for me and Annick while we were in Detroit. It wouldn't have been the same without your help! I saw Juan backstage about an hour or two after he was due to play. I don't know why they didn't manage to get him to play at another moment. It's a bit sad isn't it? So, the man was there, but he didn't make it on stage. I can't say I know what's behind all of this. Keep well, John P.S. Could you send me the list with all the cd's you have? I'm especially interested in mix-cd's! -Original Message- From: john sokolowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2000 9:46 PM To: '313' Subject: [313] Juan and DEMF?? Does anyone know why Juan Atkins did not play at DEMF? At one point it was announced that Juan was in his limousine and on the way, and later it was announced that he was jumping plane flights all day and missed his flight. I also talked to a few people who saw Juan backstage. Could anyone shed any light on this? Thanks in advance, John - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TRESOR LINE-UP LOVE PARADE WEEKEND -
I thought this might interest some people on the list. Have a nice weekend everybody, it's 5.54pm here and the weekend is calling... John friday 07 july GLOBUS 23:00-02:00...dave 02:00-05:00...carl cox 05:00-endetom clark TRESOR 23:00-01:00...mad max 01:00-03:00...steve rachmad 03:00-05:00...surgeon 05:00-endemad max saturday 08 july GLOBUS 22:00-01:00...senze 01:00-04:00...blake baxter 04:00-07:00...jay denham (house set) 07:00-endedjoker daan TRESOR 22:00-02:00...dry 02:00-05:00...claude young 05:00-07:00...james ruskin 07:00-endedash OPEN-AIR 24:00-02:00...rok 02:00-03:00...super_collider LIVE PA 03:00-06:00...dj t-1000 06:00-09:00...james pennington sunday 09 july OPEN-AIR 09:00-20:00...sven väth GLOBUS 20:00-23:00...resident dj 23:00-02:00...dan bell 02:00-04:00...claude young (house set) 04:00-08:00...wimpy 08:00-enderesident dj TRESOR 20:00-23:00...eva cazal 23:00-01:00...james pennington 01:00-03:00...jay denham 03:00-enderecyver dogs
More pictures please! More!!
I have been off the list until I came back from Chicago and started working again (Monday). I was wondering what I have missed? Probably lots of comments on the festival. I was also wondering if more people have put pictures online or are planning to do so? I'll probably have mine by Tuesday. It will take me a couple of days to get some of them scanned because I don't have much time in the evening and I'm afraid I have a new deadline coming pretty soon (feat. a Detroitspecial). I'll try to scan as many as possible as quickly as possible and then I'll mail them to Hans Veneman (Technotourist.org) to put on his site since I don't have one myself. (If that's ok with you Hans??) Question remains: are there more pictures? Who wants to start mailing them to interested listmembers? John, technotourist Belgium
RE: [313] LifeLike
Lifelike was released on both. Although I live in the city of Ghent, homebase of Music Man , I bought the release on Axis during my stay in Detroit. Groetjes/greetings, John -Original Message- From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 1:15 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [313] LifeLike On the Axis website it says that "Lifelike" is AX-21. I always thought that this one came out on Music Man in stead. Can anyone confirm that "Lifelike" is also an Axis release? That it came out on both labels? Thanx W - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks Detroit!!!!!!!
Sorry for this late message, but I have been sooo busy and tired I didn't manage to do it earlier. A big thanks to everybody who helped and accompanied me and my girlfriend Annick when we were in Detroit. A special thanks to Kelli Kavanaugh for picking us up at the airport and her kindness and hospitality. An even bigger thanks to her sister Kati, Rodney and Jay for having us over for the days we were in Detroit. That was so kind, but you know you can expect the same treatment when you get to Belgium! By the way, happy birthday girls A big thanks to John Sokolowski and Karie for being our guide in Detroit and driving us around the whole place and of course for taking us to dinner. Njammie, that Mexican food was pretty good! Thanks to Rodney for taking us to Submerge and driving us around and esp. letting us in in the middle of the night. Thanks to Natan for driving us around and for his dry humor. Thanks to the Dutch guys (Hans, Otto, Pieter, Klaas-Jan) for their friendship and expertise and simply a good time. Thanks Steven Lammers for offering to drive us around on Tuesday and Wednesday. We managed fine Steve, didn't wanna bother you. Thanks anyway. Thanks to everybody at Forans and The Butchers Inn for their kindness and helpfulness. Thanks to Alan Oldham for inviting us to his place. Sorry it didn't work out Alan. Maybe next year. Thanks for returning the interview so quickly and elaborate. Never has an artist been so fast and extensive, even an intro! Alan you're the man! Respect! Thanks to Dan Bell for agreeing on an interview a couple of hours before he left for Berlin. Thanks to all the other 313-members we've met. It was great meeting you all and we had a great time! Hope to see all of you and more of the members next year! Thanks to Linda G at Science for throwing a free party for the list! Thanks to Gamall at Backspin Promotions, Tamara at 430West and Jonnie O at Motor for having us as guests at their events and for all the help. Thanks to Mike B, Cornelius, Rolando, Digital and everybody at Submerge for their kindness and for the breakfast on Mondaymorning. Thanks to all the people I may have forgotten (still extremely tired so...) Thanks to Detroit as a whole, you will always be in our hearts!! John Osselaer & Annick Deklerck (technotourists Belgium) P.S. Also a huge thanks to Dennis Donohue and Magdalena for having us over when we were in Chicago, for driving us around and for taking us to dinner several times. You have a royal treatment coming to you when you are in Belgium!
RE: [313] Agent Cooper/ Pacou
Hmm, I have to second this because I interviewed Pacou some time ago and he clearly stated not being a big fan of software. He's an hardware kinda guy. I even asked him the question what his point of view was on software and he said he only used software for some mastering and for the releases on Djax. If you are really interested I could always dig up the answers I got back from Pacou. John -Original Message- From: Christian Bloch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2000 8:37 PM To: Alien Disc Dealer Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Agent Cooper/ Pacou i don't think so, you sure that wasn't just a joke? he's a funny guy that way. not six months ago he told me that he only wanted to use his pc for communication (except for his releases on djax which is pure rebirth workouts)... maybe i'll have to ask him myself christan bloch mp3.com/bloch tresor/LL/simple muzik/funque droppings/junk food On Tue, 6 Jun 2000, Alien Disc Dealer wrote: > > > Just as an addidtion to all this info: > Pacou was spending some time here a couple of weeks ago and told me that now > he gave up using expensive studio equipment and such, so from now on he will > compose using just a computer and virtual synths / virtual samplers. He > showed me a track he had just put together using this new setup, and it was > pretty good... but he said that that one was just an experiment, so it won't > be released > []s > schild > > >by the way, check out: www.pacou.de > > > >On Tue, 6 Jun 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> Struck by that amazing label that is Vertical Form, I have been on a > mission > >> to uncover the identity of the mysery artist Agent Cooper, from VF 002 > >> Rapaciolli/ Agent Cooper split. I know for sure there is a connection to > the > >> character in David Lynch's Twin Peaks, but my private investigators have > >> informed me that this producer also records under the guise of Pacou of > >> Tresor fame. Can anyone who has some undercover information shed more > light > >> on this.? The clue may be in the latest LL release on the UK label called > >> Breaks. > >> > >> A_Zed > >> _ > >> Program Co-ordinator, Ambient Zone RTRFM 92.1 > >> Sunday Electronic Listening [http://rtrfm.ii.net] > >> Perth, W.Aust (WST) 23.00-01.00 Detroit (EST) 10.00-12.00 > >> Frankfurt (CET)/ London(GMT)16.00-18.00 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > >\()/ funque droppings > > \/ christian bloch : label manager > > /\ www.mp3.com/bloch > >/__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > \()/ funque droppings \/ christian bloch : label manager /\ www.mp3.com/bloch /__\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] The Advent
Please keep in mind that Collin is about ten years older than Cisco and he didn't want to go on the road every weekend anymore. Instead he wants to start focussing on studio work. While Cisco has always been the most productive one behind the gear Collin still has a thing or two to learn and that's what he's doing now. Cisco has a new kid coming soon or already there and is moving to Portugal for a couple of years. Hope this helps, John -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:34 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] The Advent In a message dated 05/06/00 14:19:58 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > I am just trying to > ascertain if the album was mostly a Cisco solo project or Advent project, as > things have become less clear-cut since they split. DAMN! I didn't even know they had split. But then again, I have been offline and not really in touch with things for awhile. Totally gutted though, some of my favourite ever records are by the Advent, and when they play live, my god, strap in, cause they rock! Or rocked as the case may be So, sorry to be really behind and everything, but when did they split and why? thanks in advance from a freshly gutted Advent fan... Aaron - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] The Advent
I think it will have been Cisco on a soloflight, like most of the productions by The Advent. John (back on the list after the Detroit/Chicago pilgrimage) -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 05, 2000 5:05 PM To: 313 Detroit Subject: [313] The Advent I need to know something fairly urgently. Does anyone know what kind of input Colin McBean has in the Soul Destroyaz LP, Destroyed, on Synewave? I haven't got the album but I know the two worked together on at least one track, Nubian Day, since I have that on a comp. I am just trying to ascertain if the album was mostly a Cisco solo project or Advent project, as things have become less clear-cut since they split. Cheers Cyclone - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Last one before I go
Ok, I'm a bad 313-addict so here we go for a last message before I leave and unsubscribe for two weeks. Jeff Mills was to play on a big party in Holland this weekend but cancelled. This is 100% sure because it was a party by the magazine I write for. They are doing the annual awards with party kinda thingy so... Hmm, where could Jeff be heading. ?? Sorry for messing with everybody's head! John
Unsubscribing, but not for long
Hi fellow listmembers, Since I will be out of the office for about two weeks I'm unsubscribing because I'm afraid my mailbox might explode with all these lists and press agencies sending mails. I'll be back on Monday 5th! People who need to get in touch with me urgently can still reach out home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] for some hours, but be fast! We're leaving tomorrow. See yall at Science on Friday (some even before!) Greetings to all and we'll have a super time!! John Osselaer
RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
As I said Gwendal; I'm not against the music you are promoting, totally not, but I guess you picked the wrong list to drop this message. This list is from Detroit, the city where techno and dance music originated, but these people never got the respect they deserve from their countrymen. It's a thorn in the eye of many artists in Detroit (and people everywhere) that the established music industry tries to promote acts like yours who are in fact more rock oriented (at least what image and all is concerned) while that same industry doesn't give a sh*t about the artists who are the real innovators. You are bound to get negative reactions on a list like 313 that is mainly for Detroit techno-minded people. Sorry for lashing out, but please try to include some 'native' artists on the next record release party. And I'm not talking about Moby! Hopes this clears things out a little, John Hmm, could someone back me up on this? -Original Message- From: Gwendal Cobert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY oh oh... I'm afraid I don't get it - what is offensive in the fact that a party is organised for a record release ? I don't mean to offense anyone, it is just that I'm completely puzzled by these messages ? Gwendal > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY > > > I must agree. This is exactly the kinda thing they want the > American public > to dig while they try to shut up the black techno community > who gave bith to > this fantastic music we all love so much. > > I'm not against this music, but if they want people to shut > their eyes to > what's happening in their backyard, that's cruel. > > And no, I'm not a black,frustrated kid; I'm white, European > and hell I know > where all this great music originated! > > John (see yall soon in da D!) > > -Original Message- > From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:18 PM > To: daz det > Cc: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY > > > I'M SORRY BUT I FIND THIS POST MILDLY SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEWHAT > OFFENSIVE. > PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE KIDDING? > > daz det wrote: > > > > > Record Release After Party > > Sunday 5/28/00 > > > > ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** > > Paul Oakenfold~Fatboy Slim > > > > Free Giveaways > > Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... > > > > 10pm on to dawn > > Comet on Main St > > Royal Oak > > > > > __ > __ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY
I must agree. This is exactly the kinda thing they want the American public to dig while they try to shut up the black techno community who gave bith to this fantastic music we all love so much. I'm not against this music, but if they want people to shut their eyes to what's happening in their backyard, that's cruel. And no, I'm not a black,frustrated kid; I'm white, European and hell I know where all this great music originated! John (see yall soon in da D!) -Original Message- From: Giles Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 3:18 PM To: daz det Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RECORD RELEASE PARTY I'M SORRY BUT I FIND THIS POST MILDLY SUBVERSIVE AND SOMEWHAT OFFENSIVE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU'RE KIDDING? daz det wrote: > > Record Release After Party > Sunday 5/28/00 > > ***Essential Mix Vol 1*** > Paul Oakenfold~Fatboy Slim > > Free Giveaways > Live DJ's ~ Special Guests... > > 10pm on to dawn > Comet on Main St > Royal Oak > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DEMF get together
Hi Mike, Just for the record: Johno is my e-mail addy since there are two Johns here at the office. So it's John without the extra 'o'. My grandmother used to call me that when I was little so ... My girlfriend Annick will also be joining us. See ya Friday, John P.S. Isn't it a bit late to go record shopping at 8pm? Are shops still open or do I miss something here? -Original Message- From: Intermodal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 7:55 AM To: Klaas-Jan Jongsma Cc: Hans Veneman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Diana Potts; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; steve lammers; s pruett; Nate DeYonker; kelli b kavanaugh; Brooks Mosher; William Van Loo; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: DEMF get together Hello, So far the confirmed posse includes Klaas-Jan, Hans, Phred, Diana, Holly, Johno, Steve lammers, and myself. If you guys know anybody else coming into town, feel free to invite them along. I figure we should probably hit Recordtime first as the restaurant will be open later. Diana mentioned Fishbones, but I am open to suggestions. I figure we should probably hit Recordtime around 8pm and then hit the restaurant. Traxx and Carlos Souffront will be playing at Cloud 9 later in the night, so I figure that's where we should head after drinks and dinner. I am going to post to the list about a general listmember meet up at Recordtime for 8pm on Friday night. We also need to think about how we are going to handle transportation. I have room for 3 others in my car. If you have any questions feel free to ask, and if you want to be removed from the CC list, once again, just ask. Take care, Mike Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >I was wondering if anybody had plans for dinner and record shopping next > >Friday? I figure we should get something going before the festival > >starts. Let me know if you are interested. > > We will be there Mike but i think Hans already said that. > > -- > Klaas-Jan Jongsma > --- > http://technotourist.org > http://lowlands.hyperreal.org > http://home.planet.nl/~kjongsma -- Michael Taylor : [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homes.arealcity.com/Intermodal/index.html http://www.mp3.com/TheMSProject
RE: [313] Bass
I just love that track. In fact the 'text' is an old Dutch counting rhyme which makes it pretty funny for Dutch speaking people like me. You are not the only one who bought it. I tend to mix it with electro from time to time. John -Original Message- From: FC3 Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2000 12:21 AM To: 'Matthew L. Thompson'; 313@hyperreal.org; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [313] Bass there is Speedy J's "IEEE Mitten" I can't remember what label it is on. it also has a distorted evil sounding computer voice. its a nasty track. i am the only person i know that owns a copy which makes me wonder if i was the only person who liked it. has anyone else out there in Techno land heard this??? does anyone else spin it?? jeff (who is going nuts w/o his records since he is in the middle of the ocean) > -Original Message- > From: Matthew L. Thompson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, May 22, 2000 2:25 PM > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [313] Bass > > A couple that I can think of just off the top of my head are Techno > Gangsters by N-Joi (flip side of Malfunction), and Direct Me by Reese > Project (Reese Riot Mix). Make sure you have good bassy speakers for > Direct > Me, little tinny ones probably won't pick it up. :) > > Matt > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Homepage: http://magicmattkelly.tripod.com > > > > Sorry if this isn't 100% 313 related, but I'm sure some of you can help > me > > out (in PVT, if you prefer). > > I'm looking for tracks with deep/heavy/strong/sub bass. It doesn't > matter > if > > it's techno or electro, just as long as there's a big bass going on. > > Stuff like the Nothing is Sacred EP released on the Xtras label, or with > > that kind of bass we can find in Landstrumm's & Berkovi's tracks. > > Anyway, sorry for the bandwith, but any help will be appreciated. > > []s > > schild > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Coming to da D
Hi everybody, My girlfriend and I are coming to Detroit from Thursday 25 may and we'll leave for Chicago on Tuesday or Wednesday. Are there listmembers who are interested in embarking on a exchange programme? ;-) We have just moved to our little house in the city of Ghent (Belgium). Anyone who is willing to have us in their home for a few days will be treated the same way when they come to Belgium. We'll be going to the festival and we also want to see some of the places which have been (and are) important in the history and development of the music we love so much. Record shopping and some clubbing (Motor, Science) and maybe some interviews will be on the schedule as well. I've also heard that you can't just go to Submerge and drop in... Who do I contact to be able to visit Submerge? It will be part of the Detroit-special I'm going to do for Bassic Groove magazine. I have more things on my mind, but can't think of them; it's just too hot here and my head hurts from the weekend ;-) Hope to hear from some list members soon, John Osselaer P.S. Quite a number of people want to meet up with us at the festival. Can you mail me again privately at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'll try to scan some pictures tonight so I can mail them to you. At least you'll know how my girlfriend and I look. No, not like ghouls, thank you :-) P.P.S. For those having us over: We'll throw in some famous Belgian chocolates. Now if that ain't blackmail...
RE: [313] Flash: Was {Re: [313] rolling?}
Yeti is a Belgian label, closely linked to Music Man since it's also part of
NEWS. Stefaan - T-Quest - Vandenberghe is still largely involved in the
releases that come out on the label.
J
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From: Alien Disc Dealer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 2:12 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] Flash: Was {Re: [313] rolling?}
I've a Flash single on CD :P
It has 6 mixes besides the original (which is the best, imho). The remixes
are by Green Velvet himself, Boo Williams, Paul Johnson, DJ Sneak, Jellybean
and Dj Rush.
It was released in Austria on a label called Yeti Records (???), and
distributed through Sony Music...
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>Subject: Re: [313] rolling?
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>>You can still get the flash remixes on Relief. Ya just have to look.
>There's
>>also a white label that has flash, answering maching, and I want to leave
>my
>>body.
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>>Chris z.
>
>
>I have this on an original relief pressing of this if I'm not mistaken, ie,
>not a white label. God knows where it would be for a catalog number though.
>
>There were also the DJ Sneak, Carl Craig, and a few other remixes released
>on Ministry of Sound after the original 2x pack. I belive there were two of
>these released concurrently, and I only picked up the one with Sneak and
>Craig mixes.
>
>Tristan
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RE: [313] oliver ho
Just informing the lot of you that the second edition of Overload (Uk magazine) is out now and features an excellent interview with Oliver Ho. And for the Dutchies: in about three weeks time the new edition of Bassic Groove will be out also with an interview with Oliver Ho; John -Original Message- From: Shane from PLURkids [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:25 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] oliver ho Regarding Oliver Ho, I've been hearing rumors bandied about concerning an appearance of the one and only Mr. Ho in the Michigan area around July 2nd. The rumors do not include Black Nation or another Sector:616 party. Can anyone shed some light on this? Shane PLURkids Productions Info 734.913.9672 www.plurkids.com _ ___ o __)) ))_ )) __ __ _ )) ((_( ((_ (( (| ((_) (( (( Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
James Ruskin track
Has anybody already listened to the new James Ruskin album on Tresor? In 'Connected' I tend to reckognize a melody that has been used before, but I can't seem to place it. Anybody? John
RE: [313] Re: (313) Online petition at http://www.petitiononline. com/plur/p etition.html
I was only thirteen when I had nagged so much that my mother took me to the (for Europe) legendary Boccaccio club in Destelbergen. It was the period of New Beat. From that day on I was completely lost, but it didn't turn me in a lunatic like so people want us to believe. Or did it. ;-) John -Original Message- From: Counterforce - Lay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2000 10:24 AM To: Cyclone Wehner; 313 Detroit Subject: [313] Re: (313) Online petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/plur/p etition.html Haye! > About this underage thing, over the years I have noticed that an alarming > number of currently influential and big-name DJs and producers were > attending parties and clubs at a very early age! Mills says he started going > to parties at 10/11/12 and that's how he learnt how to understand the > dynamics of crowds and music. Others snuck into clubs. > > The real issue is the police brutality surely? *** Well, actualy, that's quite true. A lot, and I mean A *LOT* of people that are into the music today started to attend parties (well, maybe not in the same format) and clubs at a very early age. And that's natural, people in general tend to get into music between their 13's-17's. Lay "Um Império Tecnológico consolidado pela Necessidade" http://barkingcat.org/counterforce - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Online petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/plur/p etition.html
I can't really judge the present scene you are talking about, but I can say
one thing: 'Watch out that drugs and violence don't take over the scene (any
scene!). Here in Belgium things were really getting out of hand around 1992,
1993. Too much drugs! The Belgian authorities came down pretty hard on
Belgian club life, closing down most of the big clubs, some of which never
reopened their doors. I can tell you one thing: the scene would never be the
same again. I've outgrown the clubscene a little, but the police and
government won't make a distinction between the seperate scenes or styles
when things get out of hand and they begin to come down on the party people.
In France the whole dance scene was oppressed by a pretty much right wing
police for years. Ask Laurent Garnier who has done quite a lot to overcome
this!
John (out and of to home in five minutes!)
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From: Jason Stanley Birchmeier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:33 PM
To: Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch)
Cc: detroit; partykids
Subject: RE: (313) Online petition at
http://www.petitiononline.com/plur/p etition.html
On Tue, 9 May 2000, Benjamin Cuthbert (Merch) wrote:
> I could not agree with you more, but in my opinion, news reports like
these,
> even though it was very sensational, can help to clean up this scene.
>
> {snip}
>
> So, what I want to know is why promoters do not set age limits on their
> parties. Will it affect the bottom-line that much?
>
I'm with my man Ben here. If I had a 15 year old daughter, I wouldn't
want her going to any of the "underground" raves in Detroit. Getting
exposed to music and culture is great, but getting exposed to nitrous, K,
dirty E, GHB and other sketchy behavior isn't that good for a young
female teen.
Look at Richie Hawtin's recent parties such as Epok. People are still
tripping and rolling, but at least it isn't being done in public, there is
an age limit and he runs things responsibly. He's learned his lessons.
I would have no problem sending my kid to a party if I knew things were
legit. And at most Detroit parties, it's come to the point where the
police are even getting paid off.
Shit, I went to this afterhours club called Jesters two weekends ago,
where policemen in uniform were doing balloons and partying with
strippers! No lie.
The golden era of rave has ODed. Time to bury it and start over.
>
> PS - I also want to know why more people do not support the Detroit's club
> scene more. While everyone was getting busted on Saturday, they missed an
> excellent bust-free night at Science.
>
And Ben's totally on point here also. Sure, there may not be free drugs
being offered at Science, but the club offers the same salient attributes
such as DJs and lights.
And Science even offer things most raves don't such as bathrooms, clean
seating, security, a reasonable admission price, good DJs, safety, water
and the reassuring knowledge that the police aren't going to shut the club
down and beat people in the process.
It just seems logical to me.
Pay $30 to party at the Theater on Harper and Van Dyke or pay $10 to party
at Science. It seems like an easy choice to me.
Also, Shane from Plurkids is a friend of mine, and this is by no means a
dis on him. I just think people are tripping on these rave/news stories
for the wrong reasons.
> -Original Message-
> From: Shane from PLURkids [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 10:49 AM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: (313) Online petition at
> http://www.petitiononline.com/plur/petition.html
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> This last weekend in Detroit it was like 1515 Broadway all over again.
> Mid-week there had been another one of those "look where your children are
> at on saturday night!" reports on the news. Of course, it was just like
> years ago - a promoter had called the news complaining of how they wanted
to
>
> "clean up the scene". Then they rented a space that they thought was
> bust-proof, and proceeded to throw a party with tight security and 500
free
> tickets. It backfired in their face and of course the cops arrived with
the
> news in tow. Multiple kids were beaten on site by the Highland Park
Police,
> and the newspeople witnessed this but did not report it.
>
> *sigh*
>
> Either way, we want to at least have a chance to speak about the things
that
>
> make rave culture special to us. The news reports are always
> sensationalistic and driven by ratings - this we grudgingly accept as the
> way it is - but it would be nice to be heard at all, even within that
> context. Please help us find a voice amongst all the yelling.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Shane
> PLURkids Productions
> Info 734.913.9672
> www.plurkids.com
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RE: (313) marco corola and whistle 3/da D
Hi, um, Renegade Rhythms-dude, ;-) You've got yourself a date :-) At this pace I will have to hook up with half Detroit, Holland and some guys from Chicago. Hope to make some new friends!! At the moment I'm still awaiting a message from Dennis Donohue, who is friendly enough to let me and my girlfriend stay at his place when we are in Chicago. Maybe we could also stay at his parents cottage near Detroit, but that's not sure. I'm moving towards the idea of posting a plea to the Detroiters for having us over (in exchange for a place to crash when they come to Belgium) because Dennis will at the best only be able to let us stay there for the weekend and we arrive on Thursday and plan to leave for Chicago on Tuesday or Wednesday. I guess this will all get too complicated and Dennis is already doing enough as it is. He's great for being so generous and I hope we can welcome him and his fiance in our house in Belgium soon. The whole idea of asking people to have us over originated in the experiences some listmembers had (esp. the Dutchies). It's a great way for young people to save some money and get a firstclass guide around. I hope I'll manage to find a place before the end of next week because our holiday is coming closer. The money I can save will be blown on records, t-shirts and other memorablia. Keep well and see you soon, John P.S. I'll be receiving some nice pictures of my girlfriend and myself this week. Normally I'm the kinda guy who doesn't really like to get on a picture and I always put on a funny/scarry face. This time around it might prove helpfull to have some decent pictures to mail to the listmembers who want to hook up. At least you'll know you aren't hooking up with some gouls... or you just might... ;-) Home mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm almost outahere so don't be surprised if I don't reply till tomorrow. -Original Message- From: Renegade Rhythms [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) marco corola and whistle 3 John, It's a large indoor event going on in Pensylvania basically a big rave. I am going to the DEFM--- much better ! Hope to see you there! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hmm, a dumb European asking: 'What's whistle 3?' > > John > > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 3:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) marco corola and whistle 3 > > why would you goto philly when you can goto DEMF??? > and you forgot to mention that out beloved T-1000 will > be at whistle 3. > jeff > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > any going to take the ride to philly on the 27th of > > may and check out marco > > corola and 3 decks? > > > > well if u need more info you can go to > > www.local13.com and check out there > > site for all the 411 > > > > peace > > > > Z. > > > > > -
RE: (313) marco corola and whistle 3
Hmm, a dumb European asking: 'What's whistle 3?' John -Original Message- From: Jeff Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) marco corola and whistle 3 why would you goto philly when you can goto DEMF??? and you forgot to mention that out beloved T-1000 will be at whistle 3. jeff --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > any going to take the ride to philly on the 27th of > may and check out marco > corola and 3 decks? > > well if u need more info you can go to > www.local13.com and check out there > site for all the 411 > > peace > > Z. > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > __ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) adam beyer in detroit
I like Cari Lekebusch better than Adam Beyer for exactly the same reason. While Adam has a tendancy to focus on hard beats and loops Cari also adds interesting sounds, effects, twists and turns. I must admit that the last album by Beyer was already better, but still I feel a bit sorry I bought it because it remains there in my record boxes. It's a feeling that crept onto me the last two years; I don't buy all this hardlooped stuff anymore unless it has something special that makes it unique and inspiring. A good example are some tracks by Alessandro F on Kobayashi and the label in general. I also liked the new album by James Ruskin: Point 2. It should be in the stores by now. I also am lucky to have received an advanced copy of 'Against Nature' by Karl -Regis- 'O Connor and Peter - Female- Sutton. Needs checking! John -Original Message- From: Hodgson, S. R. (Sean) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 08, 2000 5:49 PM To: Jason Birchmeier; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) adam beyer in detroit In reply to what Jason wrote, I totally agree that Adam Beyer & Cari Lekebusch along with all the other Swedish artist that produce percussive driving Techno have created a hole new and distinct type of sound and do take it to a different level and "can not" be compared to most European Dj's and Artist. Everybody talks about how innovative the Detroit artist were. The Swed's are just as innovative with their own unique style of music as well. Cari Lekebusch is a master when it comes to sampling and adding just the right amount of effects to his tracks. I guess the point im stressing is that Swedish percussive music by all means is very distinct and unique and should be appreciated. And if you think its just hard techno were you throw your fist in the air and are sore after your done "Your right". So what, If you really listen to that type of music you would see that their is alot of physical and emotional feeling involved s s ss s s Jason Birchmeier wrote: > > I agree that it would be totally illogical to have Beyer as a resident. > Guess I'm just bitter about all the house and prog house that Motor has > booked for the next month or two. I bleed techno... > > But I'm still going to support Beyer whether he's from Europe or Antartica. > A good DJ is a good DJ. > > I love most of the Detroit DJs probably about as much as the rest of you, > but Beyer takes techno to a level few people can handle. You really can't > compare him to your generic Euro DJ. I'm sure that hard techno isn't for > everyone. The way I see it, some techno you feel emotionally. Other techno > you feel physically. And like I said, not since Hawtin have I danced to a > DJ that has sent me home sore and truly exhausted. > > Maybe I'm just a sick person with a little more energy and drive than most. > But I sure wasn't the only one loving the music on Friday. What got me most > excited was seeing so many other people let loose and truly get down. > > It's cool to kick back with a drink and nod your head to some laid back > music. But nowadays, it seems that way to many people come to Motor just to > kick back, nod their head and check out the fly ladies. Beyer was > refreshing in the fact that, first of all, he scared away the posers and, > secondly, made people go insane. > > I have respect for DJs from Detroit, but I'm not going to be prejudice > against Beyer just because he's from Europe. I'm sure there are quite a few > people on this list from Europe. Should I dis them? > > Besides, in my eyes, Beyer's just continuing the foundation laid by > Detroit-area artists such as Richie Hawtin and Dan Bell. Melody and funk > are discarded for sheer aggression and rhythm. I have no problem with that. > In fact, I'd like to see a little more of it around these parts. All I hear > is house whenever I go out. > > In sum, so many techno DJs put me to sleep. I prefer music that I can feel > emotionally. Unfortunately, few DJs can truly evoke sentiment well, in my > opinion. So if I can't feel it in my heart, I'd just as well feel it in my > body. > > You just can't dis Beyer for being from Europe. You should support DJs for > their music not for political reasons. > > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) I LOVE YOU steals your passwords!!
Now if only I had the money to buy a Mac ;-) John -Original Message- From: sean deason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 05, 2000 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) I LOVE YOU steals your passwords!! now if only the rest of the world would switch to Macintosh... :^) sean "high horse" deason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > As a follow up to the virus warning of yesterday (This sucker hit about 90% > of the European companies): > > I've just received a mail from the Belgian press agency Belga that says that > the 'I LOVE YOU' virus steals your passwords. It's only Windows 95 and 98 > that are subject to this. > > Watch it and have a nice, virusfree weekend, > > John > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- sean deason matrix records p.o. box 343 dearborn, mi 48121-0343 ph/fax: 313.582.3410 cell: 313.522.3505 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] profile: seandeason.metrotimes.com
I LOVE YOU steals your passwords!!
As a follow up to the virus warning of yesterday (This sucker hit about 90% of the European companies): I've just received a mail from the Belgian press agency Belga that says that the 'I LOVE YOU' virus steals your passwords. It's only Windows 95 and 98 that are subject to this. Watch it and have a nice, virusfree weekend, John
SERIOUS VIRUS WARNING!!!
WATCH OUT EVERYBODY! A WORLDWIDE VIRUS IS GOING AROUND TODAY. IT ALREADY INFECTED OUR NETWORK HERE IN BELGIUM AND WE HAVE RECEIVED THE MESSAGE THIS SUCKER GOES AROUND THE WHOLE WORLD. ALTHOUGH IT MIGHT SEEM TEMPTING, DO NOT OPEN MAILS WITH THE HEADING 'I LOVE YOU' OR WITH AN VBS.FILE ATTACHED! THE VIRUS USES YOUR ADRESS BOOK TO SPREAD! I REPEAT: THIS IS NOT A JOKE! WARN YOUR FRIENDS!
FW: CHAT WITH SUBHEAD
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Anybody have questions they wanna ask James Ruskin? This is your chance! I'm going to contact James tomorrow for an interview for Bassic Groove magazine. Hope to find some interesting stuff in my mailbox soon! John
RE: (313) Underground Resistance question
Hi Jason, I've received The Rough Guide To Techno (Thanks Tim, excellent job!) yesterday and thanks to that nice piece of work I can answer question A) about Mills. Don't mind if I already use a quote (?): 'In 1992, however, Mills decided to accept the offer of a residency at Peter Gatien's Limelight club in New York, effectively ending the duo's collaborative efforts and leaving Banks to continue under the UR banner alone.' Taken from The Rough Guide To Techno by Tim Barr. Ok, just checked the part on Robert Hood and here's an answer to the second question. Another quote from tRGtT: "Along with Alan Oldham (Dj T-1000), Robert Hood (then knows as Rob Noise) was an early recruit to the fledgling Underground Resistance organisation. Operating as self-styled 'ministers of information', Oldham and Hood constructed press releases, mission statements and took care of whatever day-to-day business came their way. As The Vision, Hood later became an integral part of the UR infrastructure, adopting the role of MC for the group's live shows and contributing to releases such as the Riot EP, 'The Punisher' and X-102 Discovers the Rings of Saturn (1992). During the same period, his first solo release as The Vision, 'Gyroscopic', also emerged on the UR label." Taken from tRGtT by Tim Barr. You see folks, this book is really worth the attention. Get it soon! John -Original Message- From: Jason Birchmeier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 11:53 PM To: detroit Subject: (313) Underground Resistance question I'm writing a biographical piece on the group's music for my independant study and am curious about the early contributions by Jeff Mills and Robert Hood. A) when exactly did Mills stop collaborating with Banks? It sounds as though he was involved with the X-101 record (UR-013.5) but I'm guessing he left the group shortly after. I haven't heard many of the releases following X-101 except for MIA (UR-018) and Message to the Majors (UR-21) so it's hard for me to guess. B) was Hood ever that involved? He obviously was involved with the Gyroscopic record and I've heard rumors of him participating on the Riot record, but again I really don't have any idea about how involved he was after that. I'm going under the assumption that neither Mills nor Hood had anything to do with UR once they started Axis. It's hard to tell exactly when this was because so many of the UR records don't list a date. Any input would is appreciated. Thanks in advance, Jason - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Shoutcast stream with high Detroit content
Hi Greg, How long do you stay in Amsterdam? There's a lot going on there the next few days. The Dutchies on the list will be able to help you out even better, but I remember Jeff Mills is playing in A'dam on Thursday (Melkweg). There are lots of parties on Saturday, but I recommend the Awakeningsparty in the Gashouder (it's an old gasworks, you actually party in an old gascontainer). It's the top in Holland as far as technoparties are concerned. Check: http://www.awakenings.nl Shit, just remembered that it's has been sold out for weeks. Still worth trying though! Have fun in Amsterdam! Check out the red light district and don't go sober for a day ;-) John -Original Message- From: Greg Earle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2000 3:44 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (313) Shoutcast stream with high Detroit content If you're like me, you crave hearing Detroit music on the Web, but hate crappy low-rate Real Audio stuff, especially if you're on a phatpipe like me! I found this last night. Plug the URL into WinAMP or MacAST or SoundJam or : Club Music http://cr791975-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com:8000/ (a.k.a. http://24.42.5.254:8000/ at the moment) It's a 44 KHz, 128 Kbps high-speed Shoutcast MP3 stream that has a lot of Detroit content ... I've been listening to it for a couple of hours now and I've heard Mills, Mills remixes, Carl Craig, Carl Craig remixes, DJ Hell stuff (Mills remixes and other stuff), and so on ... it's great! In case the IP address changes, you can get at it pretty easily from going to the Shoutcast home page, selecting the "By Genre" menu and pulling it down to "Techno", then clicking on the "Bitrate" link on the page that comes up. This should take you to the following (direct) URL: http://yp.Shoutcast.COM/?genre=Techno&orderby=bitrate Look near the top and you should see it (because it's high rate) - it's #6 right now on this page as I type this. Off to Amsterdam in 34 hours ... woot! Enjoy, - Greg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Betr.: Re: (313) Axis 9
I got really lucky. I found it in an old record crate underneath the normal record boxes in store that isn't specialized in techno. I saw a record with a black label on one side and a gold on the other. My hart bounced and I quickly looked to the inscriptions in the record. Woohoo!! It cost me about 5$ because it came from the old records crate and nobody knew what gem I was holding. I even have the Axis 009A double and the other copy did only cost about 7$. That's real thrill, buying these records for such a price!! John -Original Message- From: Wibo Lammerts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Betr.: Re: (313) Axis 9 True that, but it also makes em more expensive. I recall paying about $ 30 US for a 2nd hand AXIS 9 but yeah I *was* thrilled! W >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19-04-2000 16:29:23 >>> Mills said in an interview that if a record is harder to find, it makes it more of a thrill when you *do* find it, thus he made sure that these two records weren't easy to get. andrew duke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > There is Axis 9A and Axis 9B, both quite hard to find, especially here in > Europe. I've noticed new copies in the last months, but some years ago these > records were hard to find. Both were released through Hardwax in Berlin and > they were meant to be as exclusive as they are. Jeff wanted to release some > tracks that could only be found in specialised shops. I'm sure other list > members will be able to explain more. Have to go now, still lots of work to > do. > > John > > -Original Message- > From: Jason Stanley Birchmeier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:28 PM > To: detroit > Subject: (313) Axis 009...what's the story? > > After getting a bit enlighted by the responses to my Red Planet question, > I'm going to try and resolve some more naivete... > > Here's the situation: I'm a bit confused. It seems that there are two > different versions of Axis 009. > > The songs are untitled and the record itself doesn't even identify > itself except for the etching on the label. This seems really illogical > to me and a bit confusing. > > Is there some story behind this record, or is it just one of those > unexplained strange occurances? > > Thanks > Jason > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cognition/Andrew Duke's In The Mix mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://techno.ca/cognition 1096 Queen St #123 Halifax NS Canada B3H 2R9 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Axis 9
It's a pitty all those releases got deleted. Axis 6 is still very much wanted here. I'm one of the lucky bastards who has got it. Especially the track 'Suspense' burns the dancefloor. I was wondering if these deleted items still can be found in Detroit record shops? John -Original Message- From: underground fighters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2000 2:58 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Axis 9 If I remember me the 9A was release through Fat Cat (95?) and later (97?) the 9B through Hardwax. The records don't have the same tracks, but it's the same style. Is the 9b a remix of the 9a or the second part of a project that's a good question. There is also two Axis 6, one deleted with Rob Hood (93?) and the second only with Jeff Mills (98?). The Axis 3 and 7 produced from Rob Hood are now deleted. Peace underground fighter --- Fabrice Lig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I found the Axis 9b at FatCat Records (London)they > had the > exclusivity with Hardwax for Europe. But FatCat is > Closed > now. > Maybe is easier to find a copy in second-hand shops > in > London ? > But I don't know the story about this record. > I heard another Axis without titles, it looks like > the 9B > but tracks on the record are different ??? another > ufo from > Axis files ?? > Fabrice Lig > > > > > ---Message d'origine--- > > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Date : 19/04/100 14:13:15 > > > > There is Axis 9A and Axis 9B, both quite hard to > find, > especially here in > > Europe. I've noticed new copies in the last > months, but > some years ago these > > records were hard to find. Both were released > through > Hardwax in Berlin and > > they were meant to be as exclusive as they are. > Jeff > wanted to release some > > tracks that could only be found in specialised > shops. I'm > sure other list > > members will be able to explain more. Have to go > now, > still lots of work to > > do. > > > > > > John > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jason Stanley Birchmeier > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2000 2:28 PM > > To: detroit > > Subject: (313) Axis 009...what's the story? > > > > > > After getting a bit enlighted by the responses to > my Red > Planet question, > > I'm going to try and resolve some more naivete... > > > > Here's the situation: I'm a bit confused. It > seems that > there are two > > different versions of Axis 009. > > > > The songs are untitled and the record itself > doesn't even > identify > > itself except for the etching on the label. This > seems > really illogical > > to me and a bit confusing. > > > > Is there some story behind this record, or is it > just one > of those > > unexplained strange occurances? > > > > Thanks > > Jason > > > > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > For additional commands, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > __ > Boîte aux lettres - Caramail - > http://www.caramail.com > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
