Re: (313) Moby assualt in Boston
Hey, I didn't want to interfere in all this, but in Fred's defense, he never insulted Tom's kid. He only attacked Tom about his mental state (and I happen to agree with him), being in such a bad shape he would run the risk of his kid getting taken away from him by the authorities or something along those lines. I agree that's harsh, but Tom's not exactly in need of pity here and if anything is not insulting to Tom's kid, but Tom himself. On 27-aug-2006, at 21:56PM, J.T. wrote: Re: my approach to Tom. Take a look at the Stephen Colbert roasting of George W. Bush earlier this year. Pretty low brow humor probably by your analysis J.T. but I loved it. no way man i loved that, and it was obviously over the heads of most attending! i think you are reaching to compare steven colbert's political humour to your way-too-personal-and-vengeful insulting of tom's children and mental health, but maybe in person you would've inflected your words just right... You are right about the BS aspect of PR. I was constantly surprised how Jeff Mills and Rich came off in a lot of interviews as their fame increased. Much differently than their personalities as human beings. see that's what i would thinkand even if tom is shooting flames out his nostrils etc expressing his distaste for (over-exposed/ hyped techno celebrity here), i think he responds to reason at least as well or better than insulting his kids and intelligence etc...he's just shooting the sh;t... too much macho
Re: (313) Maestro DVD- Steve D'Aquisto
From what I remember there's quite a bit of info on him in Love saves the day. If I remember correctly he started the very first DJ record pool together with David Mancuso after he was pissed off when some record label wouldn't give him a certain record for free. Mel Cheren also writes a bit about him in Keep on Dancin Online I wouldn't really know other than what google turns up. Joost On 31-jul-2006, at 19:51PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Finally got to see this over the weekend (thank you Netflix for picking this up!). What a truly great film - my wife and I were struck by how many people in the film are no longer with us I'm trying to find more info on Steve D'Aquisto. I either forgot or didn't know that he died in 2001 (what was the cause?). There doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info on him. There's a bit in Last Night a DJ Saved My Life. Anything in Love Saves the Day? Anywhere else online? MEK
Re: (313) UR website hacked!
Any Turkish list members that wanna pay these guys a friendly visit? Mad Mike can probably provide them with their IP address... On 30-jul-2006, at 16:16PM, Placid wrote: my site got hacked by the same lot... fcukers.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: www.djadamx.com http://www.djadamx.com was hacked earlier this week by turkish hackers... *On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:01 , Klaas-Jan Jongsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: * Damn! What is the fun of this, script-kiddies... http://www.undergroundresistance.com/main/ modules/refer.pl?redirect=http%3A%2F% 2Fwww.undergroundresistance.com%2Fmain%2F
(313) Congrats to Simon Hindle
List member Simon got into the Red Bull Music Academy that's being held in Melbourne this year. A fantastic opportunity! I didn't get in myself. Again. So I'm terribly jealous. But nevertheless I hope Simon will have a great time there. It would be great if you could keep us updated a bit on what's going on when you're there, if you even get the time. But that's up to you of course. For those who don't know what the RBMA is, check this: http:// www.redbullmusicacademy.com/ and check out the lectures. Have fun man! Joost
(313) Congrats to Simon Hindle
List member Simon got into the Red Bull Music Academy that's being held in Melbourne this year. A fantastic opportunity! I didn't get in myself. Again. So I'm jealous as hell. But nevertheless I hope Simon will have a great time there. It would be great if you could keep us updated a bit on what's going on when you're there, if you even get the time. But that's up to you of course. For those who don't know what the RBMA is, check this: http:// www.redbullmusicacademy.com/ and check out the lectures. Way to go Simon! Joost
Re: (313) So Bad But So Funny
I'm so proud to be Dutch right now. We've come a long way since the klompendans ;-) On 24-jul-2006, at 18:13PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just found a whole mess of jumpstyle videos on Youtube. Funny because it's mostly videos of people recorded from the shoulders/waist down. Buch of headless dancing bodies... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXWPbW0cbL0NR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnGeRwQSQL8NR http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMt2VNhfRHQsearch=jumpstyle http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=9Ao4Yz91fDUmode=relatedsearch=jumpstyle MEK f:un[x]iun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/24/2006 03:16:47 AM: On Mon, July 24, 2006 09:45, Martin Dust wrote: Oh dear, and I'm sorry for popping this on the list, but is this what people (general public) think dance music is? Yeap, it still hasn't changed over the years. Anyway,... : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YelOQ_e573Y -- http://www.funxiun.com http://www.myspace.com/funxiun
Re: (313) Omar S
One thing I don't quite get. If he's so pissed about not getting the respect he deserves, then moving into hip-hop territory doesn't exactly sound like the world you'd wanna get into. On 19-jun-2006, at 21:48PM, /0 wrote: I'M NOT MAKING TECHNO HOUSE MUSIC NO MORE. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=54868041 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) Omar S On 6/19/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems Omar S is saying on his myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=54868041) that he's not doing house and techno these days and appears (http://www.omarsdetroit.us/eps.html) to have gone in a hip-hop direction. Interesting. it didnt say he was giving up on the house and techno, only that he has a new hiphop record out. and he claims the only people doing hot sh*t are him theo and malik pittman, which is all house stuff. didnt listen to the hiphop yet, but i will.. tom
Re: (313) Omar S
One thing I don't quite get. If he's so pissed about not getting the respect he deserves, then moving into hip-hop territory doesn't exactly sound like the world you'd wanna get into. On 19-jun-2006, at 21:48PM, /0 wrote: I'M NOT MAKING TECHNO HOUSE MUSIC NO MORE. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=54868041 - Original Message - From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 2:47 PM Subject: Re: (313) Omar S On 6/19/06, robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems Omar S is saying on his myspace page (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? fuseaction=user.viewprofilefriendid=54868041) that he's not doing house and techno these days and appears (http://www.omarsdetroit.us/eps.html) to have gone in a hip-hop direction. Interesting. it didnt say he was giving up on the house and techno, only that he has a new hiphop record out. and he claims the only people doing hot sh*t are him theo and malik pittman, which is all house stuff. didnt listen to the hiphop yet, but i will.. tom
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(313) High Tech Soul
Has this been posted before? I don't recall. http://www.paxahau.com/ (scroll down) I guess more nostalgia again about a genre that's supposed to be looking exclusively to the future. Anyone who has seen this, is it good? Joost
Re: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?
No, Uwe has nothing to do with this, although the comparison isn't that unexpected. It's still quite different to Señor Coconut though. On 7-apr-2006, at 8:56AM, Odeluga, Ken wrote: Tell me this is *not* something to do with Uwe Schmidt...(I admit I haven't looked.) -Original Message- From: Joost P [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 April 2006 22:38 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany? http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musiksub=1
(313) Who said Kraftwerk was the best electronic music ever to come out of Germany?
http://www.mambo-kurt.de/php/mp3s.php?bereich=musiksub=1
Re: (313) theo parrish at the red bull music academy
This is great stuff! For some reason I wasn't able to find the Theo Parrish lecture earlier on that site either. But wow, this is so cool. And funny too. That second part is pure first class stand up comedy. I don't entirely agree with his standpoints on vinyl vs downloads, but Theo sure is some speaker. He should do this more often. Once again, inispiring stuff. And I'm so jealous of those RBMA contestants Joost On 8 Feb, 2006, at 2:17 PM, seek wrote: - Original Message - From: Wassim I cant find this on the site. Can you post a direct link to the page on which the lecture is located http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/DIARIES.18.0.html? act_aced=113act_dpid=92 Following lunch, it was then time for the Theo Parrish lecture. This was something I had been looking forward to for a while. Once things got underway, Theo took control. He started off by playing Stevie Wonder's 'As' and talking about how Lil' Louis played the track at a club in Chicago when Theo was 15 or 16 and how it blew his mind because he was used to just thinking of that track as something he sang with his mom. Theo was full of stories from his days in Chicago and Detroit and every track he would play seemed to put it in a new light for me. I think the lecture went on for over 3 hours. Theo was opening up about everything, from talking about going to college for art, to DJing and production work. It was definitely something special to hear Theo today. etc... seek jurren baars wrote: most of you will probably have allready spotted this, but there is now a video up on http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com of theo parrish's lecture during this year's red bull music academy. it is supposed to be an interesting lecture (can't comment myself, as i only get to see the video, somehow audio doesn't work...) so enjoy. jurren
Re: (313) For vintage synth geeks and freaks
Wow, thanks for that link. This is awesome. I wish they would do this with more old magazines. Joost On 11 Jan, 2006, at 4:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.cyndustries.com/synapse/intro.cfm
Re: (313) theo parrish mix
Yes I'm curious about that percussion track too. It sounds a lot like Tres Demented, but it's not the same. It sounds like it's probably the track that Carl and Laurent sampled for Tres Demented, or at least got their inspiration from. Don't know about the other two. Joost On 20 Dec, 2005, at 5:18 AM, Francis Gosselin wrote: As usual Theo co take us for a ride with some recent stuff as well as some old. Anybody know what that massive percussion workout is starting at the 37:30 minute mark (roughly)? How about the 1:18:00 disco jazz track or the 1:57:00 funk track? Might be obvious to some, but I have no clue. Thanks Jurren for sharing the link, it's a good mix! -F. At 03:13 PM 12/18/2005, jurren baars wrote: just spotted this on the 4hero messageboard, dunno if it was posted here before: http://www.oseao.com/shows/offworld/index.html jurren
(313) Moodymann @ north sea jazz Holland video stream
Don't know if this has been posted before, but I just stumbled across this link. 63 mins high quality video. http://cgi.omroep.nl/cgi-bin/streams?/nps/output/nsjf2005// moodymann.wmv Joost
Re: (313) Portable .WAV recorder ? for livesets/mixes (OT!)
Just received this in the mail: http://www.geminidj.com/news_ikey.html Considering the brand, I don't expect too much of this. You still need an additional storage device (it should be possible to use an iPod for this) and if you do want to convert to mp3, the highest bitrate is only 256 Kbps. But if you want to record to wav and you already have an iPod or similar device, this could work. You still couldn't play back the wav directly on the iPod, but that's just a matter of connecting it to your computer and importing it through iTunes. In the mail I received it had a suggested retail price of approx 200 euros which I think is way too expensive for a device like this. Don't have a clue about US prices though. Joost On 18 Sep, 2005, at 10:17 AM, Benoît Pueyo wrote: Sounds likea big joke !! It is delivered with a 64 mb memory ! I think the highest you can get with CF is 1024 mb The iriver used to record in wav and they had up to 40 gb. Check H320 and H340 on http://www.iriver.com/ cheers -- Benoît. Odeluga, Ken a écrit : This seems to be exactly what you're looking for: http://www.edirol.com/products/info/r1.html However I think they're still expensive. You might like to consider a good second-hand DAT, although this isn't for wav of course. I'd suggest do your research and look at ebay. Ken -Original Message- From: Chris O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 September 2005 16:55 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Portable .WAV recorder ? for livesets/mixes Hi, Is anyone aware of a portable recorder with Line in that records in .wav format? My mixer has a -10 dB RCA record out that I'd like to take advantage of. I am looking for something similar to the old Creative Nomad, that was basically a hard disk recorder, but the user interface and getting them to work with XP are horrible. I'd prefer not to record to MP3 format or mini disk, and want to avoid the hassle of tearing down the computer to move it to my 'DJ room' since I don't have a laptop. Any Help? Chris
Re: (313) discogs
This domain name expired on 12/31/69... Well, I guess they had it coming. At some point, as a hosting provider, you just have to say no more. On 3 Sep, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Simon Vrebos wrote: Does everyone get the same page as me when they go to www.discogs.com??? GoDaddy.com??? Expired domain??? I'm scared.
Re: (313) Extreme Pitch mix
Wow, your first computer! You early adopter, you. Hope you like the other half just as much. Thanx, Joost On 1 Sep, 2005, at 11:08 AM, jurren baars wrote: Joost P wrote: Hi All, this is a new mix I recorded on the weekend: http://tinyurl.com/b87xx (after download just rename it to mp3, it's not a zip file) i have finally bought myself a computer, and even bought an mp3 player along with it, so right now i'm downloading mixes left and right, including this one. listened to the first half of your mix on the way to work this morning Joost, and really enjoyed it! btw, that dj bone mix is heat aswell!
(313) Extreme Pitch mix
Hi All, this is a new mix I recorded on the weekend: http://tinyurl.com/b87xx (after download just rename it to mp3, it's not a zip file) Tracklist: 1- Plastikman - Plink Plonk [M_nus] 2- Carl Craig - Darkness [Planet E] 3- Kirk Degiorgio presents Esoterik - Cosmic Peasant [Freerange] 4- Jah Wobble - Snakecharmer (François Kevorkian Snake Dub) [Nuphonic] 5- Gino Soccio - Remember [Unidisc] 6- Freak Electrique - Parsec [Test Pressing] 7- R-Tyme - Illusion (Magic Juan Mix) [Kool Kat] 8- Ragtyme - Fix It Man [Jack Trax] 9- Grace Jones - On Your Knees [Island] 10- Universal Robot Band - Freak With Me [Unidisc] 11- Solvent - Think Like Us (Solvent vs Lowfish Mix) [Ghostly] 12- Sarah Goldfarb - Is It Disco? [Treibstoff] 13- Sascha Funke - Attempt [Bpitch Control] 14- Plump DJs - The Rub Off [Finger Lickin'] 15- Joris Voorn - Flow [Green] 16- Johannes Heil - The Remedy Presents Love Part One [G-Series] 17- Lindstron - Arpshesaid [Arpshesaid005] 18- Junior Byron - Dance To The Music [Automan 11] 19- Victor Davies - Morning Sun (Mo' Horizons Remix Instrumental) [Audiopharm] Again, a little bit of everything. Hope you like it. Enjoy!
Re: (313) Origins of House music on apple.com...
http://www.jahsonic.com/House.html According to writers like Tim Lawrence (Love saves the day), Bill Brewster and Frank Broughton (Last night a dj saved my life), one of the more accurate resources on the history of disco, house and dj-ing. On 30 Aug, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Dennis Donohue wrote: http://www.apple.com/pro/video/ramoseberhart/ The thing that caught my attention the most, was his mentioning, “We were able to make it in our houses, that’s one reason we called it house music.” Didn't that name come from the (ware)House in Chicago? Has anyone heard of these movies? Are they any good? Dense.
Re: (313) Utah rave busted by Anti terrorist swat team, czech tech 2?
Here's a direct link to the video: http://www.aymnetwork.com/files/video/utah_police_attack_partygoers.mov I know this is OT, even more so since they were playing this awful DB, but damn! This is appalling. Even the helmets remind me of Nazi Germany footage. And knowing they apparently had the proper permits. Talk about land of the free huh? On 25 Aug, 2005, at 9:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Police Raid Outdoor Music Event by Parker Pinette Monday August 22, 2005 at 04:30 AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Numerous accounts from attendees of an outdoor electronic music event in Utah county indicate excessive force used by Sherrif and SWAT officers. A video has surfaced depicting officers dressed in full military fatigues raiding the main stage of the event. Local news stations side with police in initial reports. Attendees of the outdoor electronic music event dubbed Versus II taking place the evening of Saturday, August 20th in the Diamond Fork area of Spanish Fork Canyon in Utah County arrived at the event with confidence that the concert organizers had obtained the proper permits and legal clearance to hold the event. Personal accounts available at the local electronic community websiteutrave.org paint a scene of police brutality and mayhem, many accounts bearing eyewitness to the forceful arrest of young girls. Reports state that at approximately 11:30pm upwards of 90 officers, many wearing full camouflage gear, gathered from Sherrif and SWAT departments in surrounding areas stormed the previously peaceful gathering dedicated to music and dance. At least 1 helicopter was dispatched, along with large tranport vehicles designated for both officers and detainees. Numerous statements from attendees indicate excessive force being exerted by many officers. Inuries including mild to severe bruises and cuts have been reported by party goers as young as age 17. The Utah County Sherrif's Office has expressed a long term vendetta against what they call Rave parties. Statements from the Sherrif's office as well as eyewitness accounts make it clear that this was a premeditated attack on the promoters and community supporting these events. While the Sherrif's office has stated that many drugs and pieces of paraphernalia were obtained, they fail to note how many of the 60+ citations were for drug violations. Many accounts indicate the majority of citations and arrests were for resisting arrest. The Sherrif's office states that the party was raided on the grounds of failure to obtain a mass gathering permit for an event hosting more than 250 attendees. Reports vary as to the number in attendance, estimation ranging from 250 to 1,400. Controversy exists as to whether a mass gathering permit was actually obtained, however, a Health Department permit was obtained, and hired security and emergency medical service personnel were on site. Many eyewitness accounts indicate that officers singled out party goers attempting to document the events on camcorders, cameras and camera phones. Victims have claimed that officers knocked cameras out of the hands of the owner, even confiscating some. Luckily, one video has surfaced, and is quickly spreading across the internet, as well as being featured by at least one local news station. The video clearly displays a large number of officers dressed in full camouflage fatigues, some brandishing rifles. In the higher quality version of the video, which includes sound, it is apparent that the use of a taser was employed. While the video is somewhat unclear at times, the viewer can plainly see an officer atop a young girl fully subdued on the ground on her stomach; he swings on her at least twice, as more officers rush forward to manhandle the girl. It is clear that many others were subdued using similar levels of force. Initial reports from local news stations side with the Sherrif's Office, one anchor calling the event a drug party without batting an eye. Reports tend to focus on the drugs and paraphernalia acquired by police, rather than the obvious violation of civil liberties reported by those in attendance and depicted by the amateur video, which has been provided to all major local news agencies. Surprisingly, the local Fox News affiliate Fox 13 seemed to give the most unbiased report, stating that many attendees had reported excessive force, as well as showing the official media response from the Utah County Sherrif's Office. Clips of the previously mentioned video were also shown. Other news agencies have gone along with the Sherrif's Office in painting a picture of drugs, guns, and sexual assault running rampant at electronic music events in general, and especially this one. KUTV Channel 2 News blatantly inferred that the hired security was merely in place to prevent the sale of drugs by anyone but the event organizers. All major reports restate the claim made by the Sherrif's department that a
Re: (313) An Excellent Film About The TB-303
Yeah, I posted a link to this guy's website a couple of weeks ago, but I have to admit I wasn't very clear in my subject, so it probably went unnoticed. I found the piece about the Amen break to be quite interesting as well. On 14 Aug, 2005, at 5:02 PM, Ken Odeluga wrote: Apologies to those of you who've already heard and seen this. The link below leads to an academically presented, but extremely well informed film about the 'famous' Roland electronic musical instrument. Mostly it contains stuff which many will already know, but I doubt that the history, ethos and culture which the 303 engenders, has been as comprehensively documented on film before. You'll need Quicktime (which is free to download). I need to acknowledge that I saw this first on the Discogs music tech forum. Enjoy. http://nkhstudio.com/pages/popup_bassline.html Music is an open sky. http://bleep43.com
(313) This That mix
Hi all, just wanted to share a mix of mine that I made on the weekend. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=30PZW5KL This is the track list: 1- (intro) Thrust - Surprise No. 1 (on: I can't wait to get you) [Apexton] 2- King Kooba - San Salvador [Freerange] 3- Oasis - 1 [FXHE] 4- ESG - Moody (edit) 5- Dan Curtin - What You (on: Treats) [Tuning Spork] 6- Phuture Pfantasy Club - Spank Spank [Low Fat Vinyl] 7- New Order - Confusion (instrumental) [Streetwise] 8- Jamie Principle - Bad Boy (The Movie) [D.J. World] 9- D Wynn R Tyme Productions - Love In Music (Unabombers edit) [Electric Chair] 10- 2 Men, A Drum Machine A Trumpet - Tired Of Getting Pushed Around [FFRR] 11- DJ Snotburger - Snotann (on: Compilation #1) [FXHE] 12- LNR - Work It To The Bone [Profile] 13- Chez Damier - Help Myself [KMS] 14- Aardvareke - Just Washed That Pig [Promo, RHAA 001) 15 - Underground Resistance - Jupiter Jazz (on: World 2 World) [UR] 16- Microthol - Drive Control (on: Heliosphere) [Trust] 17- Mathew Jonson - Folding Space [Sub Static] 18- Sieg über Die Sonne - Love Is OK (Tobi Neumann remix) [Multicolor] 19- Hutton Drive - Moodin [Frantic Flowers] Unfortunately the download speed is a bit slow. I you feel like commenting, please do! Joost
Re: (313) This That mix
Well, I couldn't say really. I have 2 records by them. Gone and Love is OK and both only contain remixes by minimal house/techno guys. (Villalobos, Neuman, etc.) There's some bonus tracks on there as well, but those are quite experimental and I don't know if they're representative. In general I would say they sound very very German. Vocal experimental techno. I like the high geek factor of it. And you can always send your vinyl promos to me if you can't use them. I'd be more than happy to pay the shipping cost ;-) On 2 Aug, 2005, at 2:59 PM, /0 wrote: how is that sieg uber die sonne? they send me a white but since I dont have record player, I havent had a listen. I wish I got as many free promo CDs in the mail as records, I'd have some great new music I could actually listen to :( -Joe From: Joost P [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/08/02 Tue AM 08:56:15 EDT To: 313 Detroit 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) This That mix Hi all, just wanted to share a mix of mine that I made on the weekend. http://www.megaupload.com/?d=30PZW5KL This is the track list: 1- (intro) Thrust - Surprise No. 1 (on: I can't wait to get you) [Apexton] 2- King Kooba - San Salvador [Freerange] 3- Oasis - 1 [FXHE] 4- ESG - Moody (edit) 5- Dan Curtin - What You (on: Treats) [Tuning Spork] 6- Phuture Pfantasy Club - Spank Spank [Low Fat Vinyl] 7- New Order - Confusion (instrumental) [Streetwise] 8- Jamie Principle - Bad Boy (The Movie) [D.J. World] 9- D Wynn R Tyme Productions - Love In Music (Unabombers edit) [Electric Chair] 10- 2 Men, A Drum Machine A Trumpet - Tired Of Getting Pushed Around [FFRR] 11- DJ Snotburger - Snotann (on: Compilation #1) [FXHE] 12- LNR - Work It To The Bone [Profile] 13- Chez Damier - Help Myself [KMS] 14- Aardvareke - Just Washed That Pig [Promo, RHAA 001) 15 - Underground Resistance - Jupiter Jazz (on: World 2 World) [UR] 16- Microthol - Drive Control (on: Heliosphere) [Trust] 17- Mathew Jonson - Folding Space [Sub Static] 18- Sieg über Die Sonne - Love Is OK (Tobi Neumann remix) [Multicolor] 19- Hutton Drive - Moodin [Frantic Flowers] Unfortunately the download speed is a bit slow. I you feel like commenting, please do! Joost
Re: (313) This That mix
Yummie! Sheep's brains... On 2 Aug, 2005, at 3:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mmm, you made me hungry joost : ) from the guardian: This and That 3 Soap Street, Manchester M4 1EX Tel: 0161-832 4971 Has to be the cheapest curry house in Manchester, and one of the best. You'll be pushed to spend a fiver at this caff behind Piccadilly. Gives Rusholme's more lauded establishments a run for their money, with a daily choice of three meat curries (Monday's lamb pasanda is particularly good), five veg, plus kebabs, breads and rice. A pint of awesome lassi costs 80p. On Sundays, it does a brilliant nehari (lamb stew thick with onion rich gravy and sheep's brains) for those who like that kind of thing. And who doesn't? nice tracklist btw! _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
(313) Nate Harrison
Just came across this site: http://www.nkhstudio.com/ Watched the pieces about the 303 and the Amen brother break, thought it might be interesting for the list. Nothing new or revolutionary, not even entirely correct here and there, but just interesting.
Re: (313) Dutch Music
Let's not forget the 4lux label. Or anything by Gerd for that matter. And more on a Italo tip, but nevertheless brilliant and definitely listening music in my book: Freak Electrique On 20 Jul, 2005, at 5:17 AM, Cyclone Wehner wrote: Nah, 'tis much much much better than the Petrol comps. But it has good backing so any good artists out there e-mail me and I will forward. I am merely helping a mate find some names. It has to be listening music. Alden Tyrell's latest on Clone is deadly. Winter in Polarius on Creme is a v.cruisy release, though I dunno if Polarius is dutch or not Is this the next Petrol records release? I'd be pushing to get Random XS' Give Your Body on there as well if it is - get the word out to the latte masses... Cyclone Wehner [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/20/05 12:30 pm Can anyone think of any cruisy Dutch music at the moment? I know an Australian label putting together a compilation and they want some names.
Re: (313) Holy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pigs flying, Pink Floyd reforming, and 313 Digests
Wow, this email just made my geek-o-meter go off the scale! On 6 Jul, 2005, at 7:50 PM, Greg Earle wrote: As if Pink Floyd reforming for Live 8 (amazingly so, too - watch the video on AOLMusic.COM if you don't believe me) wasn't enough ... Yesterday marked a major landmark in the history of (313). I don't know what 313 list owner God is responsible for this 4th of July miracle (well ... 5th of July actually), but I'd like to thank him/her/them profusely. Yesterday morning at 5:26 AM PDT, this 313 Digest arrived: 313 Digest 5 Jul 2005 12:26:09 - Issue 2648 It looked like any other, like the thousands of other (313) Digests that have preceded it, with this in the header: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii But sometime between 5:26 AM and 2:03 PM yesterday, someone flicked the magic switch, and the next Digest (and the 2 that have come in since) have magically become 313 Digest 5 Jul 2005 21:02:30 - Issue 2649 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/digest; boundary==_isolar-16320-1120597404-0001-2 And now each message in the Digest comes with the Content-Type boundary string and something like the following: Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=313_77141.ezm In other words ... (313) DIGESTS ARE FINALLY REAL HONEST-TO-GOODNESS DIGESTS Enough of the techno-mumble-jumble, Greg. What Does It All Mean, Mr. Natural? It means ... - No more raw quoted-printable text in Digests! Goodbye to the =3Ds and =20s and =0Ds and =0As of messages like From: Tristan Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) the meaning of...life in general - Original Message - =0D=0AFrom: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0D=0ATo: 313 [EMAIL PROTECTED]=0D=0ASent: Friday, Ju= ly 01, 2005 5:16 PM=0D=0ASubject: Re: (313) the meaning of...life in general=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A Hmpf! 23 is all about the hippies ov gaia=0D=0A 42 = - No more mangled raw HTML! Goodbye to things like From: John Sokolowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: (313) UR live @ Fuse-In ID htmldiv style='background-color:'P class=RTEYes! I was wondering what this was as well? It does sound familiar. Anyone?/P - No more raw base64 encodings from Ian Cheshire! (Actually I think Ian got himself sorted already a few months' back :) ) Needless to say, I am happier than a (Pink Floyd) pig in sh!te ... Big ups to whomever is responsible for this changeover - it has made me a VERY happy (313) Digest reader :) Yay! - Greg
(313) track ID
This is from a Derrick May mix in France in 2000 (Anfer, Dijon). Can anyone tell me which track this is? http://revelly.gb.free.fr/track2anfer.mp3
Re: (313) Moodyman - Freaky muthaf*cka
Does any of you guys know if this track has anything to do with the Mike Dunn track with the same name from a couple of years ago. I don't even know if that's the real name of the track, but I've been looking for that one for ages as well. Joost On 15 Jun, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Klaas-Jan Jongsma wrote: On Wednesday, June 15, 2005, at 12:02PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: called Sexy Mothaf*cka yo KJ, thanks for the report. I think this track is called freaky motherf*cka and has been floating around on a white for a bit and I've been going crazy trying to get one, but no joy. it;s a sleazy electronic prince type jam right? my god, its hot.\ Yeah that is the one, it sounds like Prince on steroids. It is a kick-ass track with a really great bassline, huge drive and your typical KDJ vocals on top.
Re: (313) Planet-E Bootlegs?
Well bootlegging is one thing, but what HTFR is doing isn't bootlegging, it's counterfeiting. It's no different from what's happening to Rolex watches and Louis Vuitton bags. Only where Asians are producing cheap, low quality knockoffs because of otherwise very expensive originals, HTFR are producing very expensive low quality knockoffs because of otherwise unavailable originals. For Rolex and LV I can understand it's difficult to find the culprits. But for Carl, Derrick and all the others who have been ripped off by these crooks, it should be quite a lot easier. They know exactly who they are And it's not that they're so p*ss poor they can't afford a lawyer are they? Especially when it's such a clear case theyre going to win. So why they haven't done anything yet is beyond me. Let's hope it's only a matter of time. Joost On 8 Jun, 2005, at 11:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so to conclude, all i can say is that its the *consumers* who decide, whether to keep crooks like HTFR in business by buying their stuff, or instead buy conscientiously and showing that there isnt a market for illegal bootlegs. it's a buyer's market so to speak... exactly my point fabrizio, my scooter driving, lady chasing, spaghetti loving, boring football teams friend. ; ) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) fuse-in detroit - technicolor mf
Man you're so lucky! You get to meet Butthead in person. And then Beavis selling beads. In one day! Priceless... On 1 Jun, 2005, at 6:51 AM, J.T. wrote: best idiot shivers i got was in the hotel elevator, some big goofy whitebread dude was making chitchat with an indian guy and comes out with so, are you iraqi? awkward silence then i'm indian!! hahahaha soo pathetic, like wtf how can you confuse the two? and who goes up to someone and asks them what they are anyways? then dude is clmsily trying to explain how there are lots of iraqi's in the area and how that is weird because you'd think they'd want to live in a hot desert-y place. it was so awkard and so stupid like disgusting really but my gf and i were cracking up. it was reminiscent of the guy in front of me in LAX baggage check line a few weeks ago making clever freedom-loving jokes about how they should just put up signs for al qaeda 50% off and that way we'd catch all the terrorists, like wtf do i look like a patriot to you, andoh man. so many stupid people i hate everybody another sketchy guy was outside the psychothrill party, at first enticing my friends to give him money to buy beer...like lamely joining conversations and then not so subtly saying things like yeah, and it would be so great to have some beer right now dont you think? beer would make this party off the hook -- how about you give me some money and i'll go get some and keep the change? after trying that for awhile he explained he desperately need taxi fare or something, and started trying to sell my friends beads - 2 beads actually, and he produced them from his pocket like they were solid gold or something ohh ahhh yo check these beads out you aint seen no sh:t like this before ok now someone else ramble half-asleep stories about the weekend! redman before kms was ok, the last song for the smokers was a dope 4/floor hiphop anthem thing, hot, and i didnt notice he only said kevin saunder as someone else said...i heard saunderson? maybe my roll was just starting. i did think it was a bit uhh stupid and lame to have all this hype for proggy kms dj set, when juan had just played legendary sh:t live, but typical, whatever Now that i think about it, he said kevin saunders, my friend heard it too, maybe it will show up on the livesets, tons are floating around already. I know a guy who has mp3s of all thirty some dj sets from the main stage. --maybe i am tripping and he slurred it to correct himself--but i don't do e and i don't trip unless dosed, and that is rare.
Re: (313) [SoCal-Techno] Berlin Love Parade cancelled.......AGAIN (fwd)
Oh yeah, that's brilliant! Invite a couple of thousand football hooligans to the party. That'll be instant success. They seem to have forgotten what their own name is all about. On 22 Apr, 2005, at 1:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:01:27 -0700 From: Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SoCal-Techno] Berlin Love Parade cancelled...AGAIN Organizers pull plug on Berlin's Love Parade dance party Thu Apr 21,10:44 AM ET Entertainment - AFP BERLIN (AFP) - Berlin's giant Love Parade techno music dance party has been called off for the second year running, but organizers said they were hoping to revive it in time for the 2006 soccer World Cup. After reaching a peak in 1999 with 1.5 million ravers grooving through the streets of the German capital, the event gradually ran out of steam and its management said it was unable to find enough sponsors to fund the July event. Sabine Bremermann of the Love Parade Ltd said plans for the street party were now being revamped with the aim of winning fresh backing to stage it in the summer of 2006. We will do everything we can, in cooperation with the city-state of Berlin, industry and the media, to find a way to make a comeback the year of the World Cup in Germany, she said. Germany is hosting the World Cup from June 9 to July 9 next year. South Korean electronics giant Samsung recently cancelled as a sponsor and the Berlin daily Tagesspiegel reported that Germany's T-Mobile had also pulled out. The Love Parade blamed Berlin's ailing economy for the sponsors' flight but officials from the city-state government said the organizers had failed to change with the times. After starting small in West Berlin in 1989 the summer before the Berlin Wall fell, the party grew with the craze in electronic music and helped make Berlin the techno capital of the world. Spin-offs were launched in Switzerland, Israel, Mexico and the United States but Berlin remained the mecca for the world's ravers. While the organizers used to leave Berlin to pick up the costs of the parade by claiming the event was a political demonstration, a court ruled in 2001 that it was a commercial venture and liable for the expenses. The cancellation comes just days after the legendary dance club Tresor shut its doors after 13 years as a fixture of Berlin nightlife. Ruth Nakada-Agency Director Underground Sound Artist Mgmt PR Group www.ugsoundmgmt.com 310-770-5306 phone 310-861-9061 fax Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/pKxVKC/UOnJAA/n1hLAA/rFPplB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SoCal-Techno/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
(313) piccadilly records. Any good?
Hi, just came across the site of http://www.piccadillyrecords.co.uk . And I was wondering if anyone has any experience with them. E.G. Do they deliver in a timely matter? If something's listed as in stock, is this really in stock? How do they handle overseas shipping. That sort of thing... Thanks, Joost
(313) Chez Damier
Not sure if this ever made it to the list, 'cause I'm missing over 24 hours of 313 emails. But I wouldn't want anyone to miss this, so therefor the repost: Just came across this: Saturday March 12th - Substance @ Darkroom bar Chicago What are you made of? Wax Addict Records and Soul Foundation are proud to present the return of House icon Chez Damier (Prescription, KMS, Track Mode) as their very special guest along with residents Brian Gardner and BJak. $5 cover after 11pm. 9pm-3am. I can't go myself, since I'm in Holland, so not really in the neighbourhood. But if anyone's planning on going to this, I'm very interested in reading a report. I wonder if he's planning on releasing some new stuff as well Joost
Re: (313) Chez Damier
No I missed that one. Thanks for the tip! I should do a little better research next time; he's also got a second release out called Your Love. Joost On 7 Mar, 2005, at 3:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if he's planning on releasing some new stuff as well hey joost, did you catch the trackmode of about 6 months ago? warfare or something it was called. _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP. PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring.
Re: (313) for the non DIY folks (was: woooah, hold on a second (literally))
And the second mix is on the website too ( http://space.linuxlovesyou.com/mixes/index.html ) It took me a while to get it right, 'cos the original realaudio file is distorted as hell. So I had to record it all over again on a much lower level and edit it a little. It still sounds pretty overloaded at times, but overall it's doable I think. Enjoy! Does anyone happen to know when this mix was recorded? Joost On 2 Mar, 2005, at 8:43 PM, Joost P wrote: Hi again, Steve, another listmember was so good as to donate some webspace for the mixes. You can find them now at http://space.linuxlovesyou.com/mixes/index.html , so enjoy! I'm busy recording the second Derrick May as we speak, so that one will probably follow a little later if all goes well. (It's 1:30 hrs long, so hang in there...) Joost On 2 Mar, 2005, at 6:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cos I can now do it all non realplayer, non realtime and on a PC Putting the bits and pieces others have provided together: (for us non Mac users that is, looks like lots of solutions for those with are being discussed) Go to the Faith (or whatever page) Right click the link, save target as, save it wherever (eg. desktop) This gets a 50ish byte .ram file Right click again and open with say notepad There's the URL of the actual audio Paste this into a page of HTML (if you don't have Frontpage or Dreamweaver or whatever you can use Word as an HTML editor) Either preview the page you've made or save it and open with Explorer (or whatever) Now right click the link you've made and again save target as, save it wherever Now you have the actual (presumably several Mb of) audio (I know this is the process Robin described but I needed it really spelling out) However it's still a .rm or .ram file Now you can use Slmon's http://www.jummpa.com/fredown2.htm to convert it (this last is the only part of the process I haven't tried yet as it's still downloading (very slow) and I'll want to back my machine up before I install it.
Re: (313) Mr May hates Nude Photo?
I wouldn't read too much in what he is saying there. Sounds like he was in a pretty depressive mood when doing that interview. He also states that Juan Atkins should burn in hell for naming the genre Techno :-) I particularly like the bit when he is talking about the new music coming out as a big pile of crap and that the pile of crap was growing to be a vulcano of crap and that the vulcano just started erupting... LOL Mind you, this is well before stadium trance and progressive! Joost On 3 Mar, 2005, at 6:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm listening the Derrick May interview from Kiss FM in '94 (http://space.linuxlovesyou.com/mixes/) and just heard him say I hate Nude Photo, it's corny. And he seems to realy mean it. Strange that back around 86/87/88 I was an indy boy and instantly disregarded anything that was dance I just couldn't deal with the tatatish tatatish of the hi-hats. I thought it all sucked. Until I heard Nude Photo. And then it all made sense. Just another example of one persons key to an awakening is anothers piece of sh!t. anyone else got examples? ...steve...
Re: (313) woooah, hold on a second,
In case anyone's still interested, I've made mp3's of the Derrick may and Larry Levan Kiss Fm broadcasts. I'm on soulseek with the username mewdeeman I'm not sure if it's going to work though, since I'm behind a firewall and on a mac using solarseek. Just let me know in case it doesn't. Joost On 2 Mar, 2005, at 5:21 AM, David Gillies wrote: On Wed, 2005-03-02 at 17:11 +1300, Simon Kong wrote: David Gillies wrote: There's heaps of 313'ers who use Soul Seek. That could be cool. or perhaps a bit torrent? yes . but how exactly do a I make it available to you through those networks . For slsk, you'll just need to have your slsk client open and have the file sitting in your shared music folder. Then either people can search for the file name or find your name on slsk and grab the file that way For bittorrent, you can use something like Azureus (http://azureus.sf.net) to create a new torrent, then publish the torrent file up on a bit torrent tracker site. I have a tracker setup on my server that can be used for this purpose. The good part of bit torrent is that as long as someone sticks around to seed the file, you don't necessarily have to be the only one sharing it out the whole time. I need to go away and do my homework ' I have slsk on my mac . but not the bit torrent .. basically have stopped using them cause it's boredom and awfully more'ish / also is it true that slsk has stopped giving out usernames ! Not sure. i haven't used slsk for a while.
Re: (313) for the non DIY folks (was: woooah, hold on a second (literally))
Hi again, Steve, another listmember was so good as to donate some webspace for the mixes. You can find them now at http://space.linuxlovesyou.com/mixes/index.html , so enjoy! I'm busy recording the second Derrick May as we speak, so that one will probably follow a little later if all goes well. (It's 1:30 hrs long, so hang in there...) Joost On 2 Mar, 2005, at 6:53 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: cos I can now do it all non realplayer, non realtime and on a PC Putting the bits and pieces others have provided together: (for us non Mac users that is, looks like lots of solutions for those with are being discussed) Go to the Faith (or whatever page) Right click the link, save target as, save it wherever (eg. desktop) This gets a 50ish byte .ram file Right click again and open with say notepad There's the URL of the actual audio Paste this into a page of HTML (if you don't have Frontpage or Dreamweaver or whatever you can use Word as an HTML editor) Either preview the page you've made or save it and open with Explorer (or whatever) Now right click the link you've made and again save target as, save it wherever Now you have the actual (presumably several Mb of) audio (I know this is the process Robin described but I needed it really spelling out) However it's still a .rm or .ram file Now you can use Slmon's http://www.jummpa.com/fredown2.htm to convert it (this last is the only part of the process I haven't tried yet as it's still downloading (very slow) and I'll want to back my machine up before I install it.
Re: (313) Galaxy 2 Galaxy Los Hermanos live (report)
I agree about the performance. It was like nothing I have ever witnessed before. What an amazing vibe! Gerard Mitchell sure knows how to pump up a crowd! And to play the keyboard for that matter, wow! Although I didn't quite understand everything what Mad Mike was saying when he took the mic at the end. About people who couldn't stay in Detroit any longer or something?? And a lot of things were hard right now? And who the [EMAIL PROTECTED] was that DJ before and after the performance? What were they thinking booking this guy? It couldn't have been further from the vibe that UR were spreading. A dreadful example of anti-funk as I've ever heard. He totally ruined the evening for me. Also, wasn't there supposed to be another room, where Fabrice Lig would be playing? I was desperately looking for it when this crap DJ was torturing me, but in vain. Joost On 26 Feb, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Simon Vrebos wrote: Thursday 24/02: Sea Waves @ Café d'Anvers (Belgium) I don't know what to say... it was amazing. One of the best shows I've witnessed in my life. I heard the following great tracks: Millennium 2 Millennium, Jupiter Jazz, Hi Tech Jazz, Jaguar, Soulsaver (The Deacon), Numbers (originally by Kraftwerk), Inspiration, Transition, The Final Frontier and many others. Thanx to all of G2G Los Hermanos. You not only made my night, you made my year!!!
Re: (313) Shut Up and Dance
Damn! I hope for them these guys never find out we got this thing on earth called gravity. On 17 Feb, 2005, at 11:22 PM, Martin Dust wrote: http://www.lookatentertainment.com/nneu231nd1zd823/vids/v-412.wmv Cheers Martin
Re: (313) drugs clubs
No, this is the actual video of the latest single of soulwax: The E talking. The band of the De Waele brothers from Belgium a.k.a. 2 Many Deejays. It's getting quite some airplay on MTV Europe and other TV music stations over here. I think it's hilarious and shockingly realistic at the same time. That image of that guy from the beginning when he's standing below the mirror ball with his head between his hands.. man! Joost On 15 Feb, 2005, at 9:36 AM, fab. wrote: http://www.7digital.com/downloads/soulwax/soulwaxplayer.html i presume this is some sort of promotional video for a band fab. CITYMORB MUSIC www.citymorb.net | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (313) The Trax 20 Year Anniversary
I don't think I get it. Did you leave because of him playing flowers, or because he was getting all religious on yo' ass? Joost On 22-okt-04, at 09:57PM, atomly wrote: I walked in around 2 to the most beautiful sight in the world-- a roomful of clubbers jacking to Land of Confusion by Armando. He (Maurice Joshua) mixed that into Liaisons Dangereuses and then more awesome jack tracks and old acid. He ended his set with a wicked old Farley Jackmaster Funk acid vocal track. Then Farley himself got on, announced that it was his track, and stopped it. He then went into a speech about how we are all flowers, and we belong to Jesus Christ. He then played Flowers by Armand van Helden. I then left. -- :: atomly :: [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] : www.atomly.com ... [ atomiq records : po box 805319 chicago il 60680 : 312.804.5389 ... [ e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for atomly info and updates ...
Re: (313) Joris Voorn _ Future History LP (Sino)
Just listened to the tracks on his website. All really good, well produced stuff, but I can't help but feel I've all heard it before. Years ago. There's not a single track that surprised me. I must be getting old as well... Joost On 17-okt-04, at 07:52PM, Ramon Crespo wrote: I know some of you saw him at Movement. Personally I was floored by the music coming out of those speakers and now with little less than 2 weeks till the album comes out. I'm overjoyed with excitement once again. You can now hear little clips of the songs at Joris' website at www.jorisvoorn.com :) October 29th can't come soon enough and a return visit to Detroit must be setup for Movement 2005. I saw the future that day and now we can hear it.
Re: (313) Las Vegas
I was there years ago, but I remember they booked some big name deejays regularly at that pyramid thing. Forgot the name. Hope that helps a bit. Otherwise, there's always ye good olde google. Joost On 29-sep-04, at 07:03PM, Jeff Braziunas wrote: Basically I'm just looking for some music which isn't the typical rap, hip-hop, and top 40 club fare. Other than that I'm not too picky. I figure the only way to know if you like an artist is to hear him/her in person... On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there!
RE: (313) movement 04
Exactly the point I was going to make, but you beat me to it ;-) Of course this list is all about voicing your opinions and having discussions about wether or not you think some artist or festival or wathever is crap. No matter if you have extensive experience in that field or not. But saying stuff like ...How you can take over something like Movement and not turn a profit is beyond ridiculous to me, when you don't have the experience to know what you are talking about can only deserve a STFU. But anyway, let's please get back from shouting you suck! to the referee to playing in the field ourselves. Joost -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Cox, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 17 februari 2004 2:32 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) movement 04 -- Original Message -- From: Stewart Caig [EMAIL PROTECTED] crap analogy Its like, I went and saw that Cold Mountain and thought it kinda sucked. But I couldn't begin to make a movie like it, nor can I really comprehend the effort that must have gone into it. Does that make my opinion invalid? I dont think so. I look at things from an end product point of view, regardless of any other factors that went into it. If something sucks, I call it. /crap anlogy he wasnt criticising the artistic integrity of the festival, he was criticising the ability of the festival to make money. big difference. art is subjective, making money is objective. tom andythepooh.com
RE: (313) Trainspotting
And equally interesting that people of the female gender hardly seem to be affected by this anomaly... Hmm, guess that's the reason why there's so few female DJs. Joost It's interesting that someone with an obsessive interest in football or cars tends to be seen in a different light than someone with an obsessive interest in music, computers or even trains. -Original Message- From: Robert Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2004 16:41 To: Jason Brunton; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313 Subject: RE: (313) Trainspotting It doesn't stop at trains, I've seen bus spotters, coach spotters and truck spotters. It has been argued that trainspotters (and that includes those of the vinyl persuasion) are in fact suffering from Asperger's Syndrome, a milder form of autism.
RE: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills
Well, I never thought this was possible, but reading your mail just made me physically sick. I could comment on every single sentence, but I won't. I'm just too upset. If what you are writing are actually truly the things that are going on in Mr. Mills mind, I will never want anything to do with him ever again. What an arrogant elitist artsy fartsy wannabe prick! I sincerely hope Jeff übermensch Mills will come to his senses soon enough. Or that this is all not true of course. Joost -Original Message- From: Katrin Richter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 15 januari 2004 17:04 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Jeff Milestone Mills When I met Jeff, he was a very nice caring person who was deeply concerned about the direction Techno was taking in Germany (!). He felt that he and Dimitri Hegemann from Tresor did a bad job back in the early Nineties because he pleaded guilty for conditioning people to consume Techno in dark boxes full of fog and strobes and didn't consider making it nicer for girls (which is, in his opinion, the reason why there are not so many girls embracing Techno)... We had a really long discussion and he admitted that he sometimes feels really removed from his audience. He said he'd never consume drugs because he would hate to put his company - and the people working for him - at risk... I don't think he is greedy... I think he is striving to be a real artist, sound- and concept-wise, that is accepted by educated people. This is, in my opinion, the reason, why he tries to employ these pseudo-intellectual, pseudo-philosophical thoughts on his sleeves written in bad English (which of course, are more expensive to make). Although he has done Metropolis and a lot of groundbreaking other projects, he is not really really accepted in the realms of high art, especially not in North America where a Techno artist would never reach the status of social acceptance he longs for. In Europe and Japan, people roll out the red carpet... here, he is the person who single-handedly established Techno in Berlin (well, at least that's what Dimi and Jeff both want to believe - themselves - and which is impossible to prove or disprove). I guess the things I just mentioned are integral parts of his personality and that might explain why he tries to make his label a sought-after commodity rather than being down with the locals. Drug-mongering simple minds are just not his thang as he was working hard enough to transcend this stage of low human existance and I think he likes to see himself as a man of class and style - certainly the way he dresses and the hotels he chooses. Okay, that was the psychological analysis from da Kat :) who sat on the mat and is a big fan of Jeff as a human. I wouldn't buy See The Light but I certainly would buy the flip flips in his shop (and even the Axis beach towel) if I had the money spare. I love supporting people... -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Januar 2004 16:03 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Betreff: Re: (313) axis But what if he and others in his position could take it further than that! Galvanize this community through festivals (lukewarm overall), seminars, clubs (gasp!), and the development of new players in the game. Uh, yeah - he does all of this. It's called Musik und Machine. http://www.musikundmaschine.com/index_flash.html not many other individual artists have done this so I think Jeff is actually on the forefront of doing exactly what you're asking him to do. MEK
(313) what's up in SF this weekend?
Hi, I'll be in the San Francisco bay area this weekend and the next. Anything worth checking out? Thanks, Joost
RE: (313) viva italo
So I guess Modern Talking - you can win if you want, wasn't a big hit over there in the 80ies...? Wouldn't exactly want to call it italo though. May sound a lot like it, but we wouldn't want to call Tiësto techno either would we... Joost -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 0:11 To: 313 Subject: (313) viva italo what are the chances of a track ID from this TV ad?:) http://www.adformatie.nl/images/9621.mpg peace, Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
I think I saw David Bowie on TV the other day saying something like: you know that something is really going wrong when an industry starts sueing it's own customers. I thought that was so spot on! it's all getting totally rediculous. Joost -Original Message- From: Redmond, Ja'Maul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 15:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just 10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them would step up also. I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get the information behind the lawsuits? Ja'Maul Redmond PERKINS WILL 1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM To: jurren baars Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart position? I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the RIAA is doing? I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the game plan, honest!). MEK jurren baars [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 313@hyperreal.org mail.comcc: Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA 09/10/03 04:31 PM the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNewsstoryID=3399602 some people are fighting back: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658afl =frnd the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not much chance of winning their fight for those names. i'm not sure what to think of all this. first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no consequence on you. the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out the weekest person that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry $2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that with the bad economy. jurren _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
RE: (313) Is this not the coolest mix?
shameless plug anyone from Holland on this list who also wouldn't mind going mad on this kind of classic tracks once again, should definately check out Return up the Bass @ Tivoli de Helling(formerly de Vloer) in Utrecht on saturday september 27th. Playing will be Eric Cycle (from Quazar), P.A. (P.A. Presents), Plusminus and in the second room, little old me will be playing tag with two friends, throwing house, electro, techno, disco, new wave and what not into one big melting pot. /shameless plug hope to see you there, and yes, this mix really cool. It's been ages since I last heard vortex, one minor mess up in the middle, but who cares! Can I have some of your water mate? Joost -Original Message- From: Matt MacQueen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 11 september 2003 0:56 To: Kent williams Cc: 313 list Subject: Re: (313) Is this not the coolest mix? The Ronny Pries Back In the Days Mix -- finally there's something I can play for people and say 'this is why I like techno.' http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days.mp3 http://www.anodized.com/~rktic/rp-back_in_the_days_playlist.txt thanks for posting this Kent, it's amazing... finally had some time to let it play all the way through. Woo! I was sweating just listening to it, imagine hearing that on a giant system in a blacked-out warehouse... wow peace Matt MacQueen
RE: (313) rave up
yes, but what about... the music? How was LFO live? Joost -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 3 september 2003 14:23 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) rave up Yup think a few folk went - for a commercial event it was suprsingly good and there were only had a few gripes. I think the fact that all the wack trance djs/punters were at creamfields helped a lot. I took some pics at : http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/users/mbl/pics if you wanna check the action ! Peace, Marc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:20 PM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) rave up Hello. so, did anyone go to the tribal gathering warehouse party then? (in Manchester) how was it - I'm interested to know? it was in the same warehouse that they used for 24 hr party people wasn't it?? (i.e the one they turned in to the hac) _ - End of message text This e-mail is sent by the above named in their individual, non-business capacity and is not on behalf of PricewaterhouseCoopers. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Vestax or Technics
My 2 cts in this discussion: Since 7 months I have two Vestax PDX 2000 at home after using Technics for about 13 years. It was some getting used to at first. They have more power than the 1200, so you have to use a little more force to slow down or speed up the platter. Also, the pitch control fader is very light, which I don't like (the only thing). Whereas with a technics pitch, you actually have the feeling you are sort of pushing the record to a slower speed, with the vestax fader there is no friction whatsoever, so it's fairly easy to accidentaly tip the fader a little bit up or down while mixing. The straight tone arm does wonders against skipping and for scratching, although I totally suck at that, but I'm making progress very slowly. The ultra pitch and the reverse button are nice gadgets, but no more than that. I occasionally use them to create effects when recording a mix. I still have to find a purpose of the quartz lock button and I really don't understand why Technics persists on including this on the newer models as well. If anyone can explain to me what this functionality is good for, please do! However, I've noticed that I'm actually faster on a technics now. Don't know what the reason is, the higher force of the platter or the +- 10 pitch control, but the difference is significant (Jeff Mills watch your back ;-) ) The argument that everywhere technics are used so you should buy those too is a bit nonsense. When I start playing somewhere with technics, at first I brake or speed up a bit too fast, but that takes just a few seconds to get used to. Well before I throw the first record in it's all business as usual. So in short, it doesn't make much difference what you buy. I bought mine because I see the vestax as progress and I hate the placing of the on/off button of the technics and the fact that the needle often skips too easily (although that can easily be solved by bringing your own cartidges to a gig). The vestax also seem to have less problems with feedback (rumble). As far as durability goes, hard to say after 6 months home use mostly, but at least they feel even more robust than 1200's to me and with that magnetic motor, there's not much that can wear out. On the other hand, how many 1200's do you encounter where the light is still working? I'm happy with them and I wouldn't trade them in for technics. Joost -Original Message- From: Chris Anglesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 27 juli 2003 22:46 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Vestax or Technics Hello 313 Peepz, I've come into a bit of money (literally) and am looking to invest in a pair of turntables; the question is what to go for, Technics or Vestax ? I've had SL1210's before and although they are reliable i've always been disappointed by their lack of features. I've heard good things about the Vestax decks (e.g reverse function, plus/minus 16 capacity) but their seems to be a big question surrounding how durable they actually are. Apparently Technics have just released a MK5 version as well (albeit minus a reverse function). Would be interested in hearing other peoples opinions. Sorry if this one's slightly off-topic and if you've received it a number of times (currently having problems with a new computer). Chris.
RE: (313) Choo Choo
It's called human league - sound of the crowd (trisco's sound clash mix). Was released by Virgin on 750 copy limited edition last march. They released two other 12es and a 10 in may, but the mixes on those are total crap. Joost -Original Message- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 23 juli 2003 18:59 To: Martin Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Choo Choo ooh, ~ halfway thru the same set there's a remix of an old Human League song (the sound of the crowd) anyone know who did this remix? lisa Martin wrote: Ten days off On Felix's set part one, what the first tune, I need to own it :) Md
RE: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music
And I thought Tom Jones was our saviour -Original Message- From: Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 16 juni 2003 15:52 To: 313 List Subject: (313) Puffy Safes Dance Music That the big question being asked in the UK at the moment, so do you reckon he'll pull it off or will it blow up in his face?
RE: (313) Francois K's Playlist
Considering there's a tracklist, might there be an mp3 of this set floating around somewhere I wonder? wishful thinking, I'm afraid. Joost -Original Message- From: Rob Theakston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 2 mei 2003 16:14 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Francois K's Playlist now THAT'S what i'm talking about. THAT's a setlist. the closest thing in Detroit we have to that, in terms of eclecticism is Todd Osborn. -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 10:10 AM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: (313) Francois K's Playlist from the opening night of Cieleo ...look at that diversity, what a great night ;) http://www.deepspacenyc.com/modules.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1 some 313 goodies : 16 See This Way Jeff Mills Axis 23 Congo Man The Congos Honest John's Carl Craig Edit 49 On On Aril Brikha Transmat and to end the night off : 59 It's All Gone Pearshaped Digital Justice Transmat -Pete --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---
RE: (313) techno tunes that do it
It's very obvious, but still: Dave Angel - Airborne (Carl Craig's drums suck mix) -Original Message- From: Mark S. Krüx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 27 februari 2003 13:15 To: 313@hyperreal.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (313) techno tunes that do it this is a thread that won't stop! very true. This could go on for days... but imo it's preferable to the petty BS that's been so prevalent on the list lately:-) Cheers, m*
RE: (313) Unusual Suspects
Found this on http://www.gottahavehouse.com/king.html ... Alan (King) is also one of five DJs featured in a house music documentary film, The Unusual Suspects, which is currently in production. The film is being produced by house music legend Chip E and is set for release on DVD in 2003. Joost -Original Message- From: Phonopsia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 25 februari 2003 20:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) Unusual Suspects - Original Message - From: robin pinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 12:26 PM Subject: Re: (313) Unusual Suspects Erm, and one last thing, have y'all seen this yet? http://www.deephousepage.com/USTrailer2003DHP.ram Pardon if it's been mentioned already - I haven't been paying a lot of attention around here. This looks really cool I think! It always seemed to me there's been a whole lot of personal agenda involved in the histories of house that we have so far. Perhaps this will help clear some things up, or maybe just muddy things even more. At any rate, it should be an interesting flick. so where am i gonna see this then? in the uk... or is it gonna be available on dvd/video?? looks pretty interesting. Unfortunately, all I know is what is on the site. :( I imagine it might be a ways off. Tristan === Text/Mixes: http://www.phonopsia.co.uk Music: http://www.mp313.com Contact: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: (313) Theo Parrish
Not Amsterdam, but you definitely should take the train to Rotterdam and try to arrive on the 15th: March 15: Detroit Grand Pubahs live March 21: Sven Väth (4 hr set) March 22: Marshall Jefferson All at the same venue: Off Corso. It's a nice venue. An old cinema. Holds about 1500 people I think. Joost -Original Message- From: Darren Longton (Marketing) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 24 februari 2003 14:53 To: Jongsma, K.J.; Anya Stang; Ryan Snowden; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Theo Parrish I know I already asked this question a while back, but wanted to get an update. Are there any Dutch peeps that can suggest any shows to check out in Amsterdam March 17-24th?? Thanks yo, d$ -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 8:01 AM To: 'Anya Stang'; Ryan Snowden; 313 Subject: RE: (313) Theo Parrish and for the dutchies among us, Theo will be playing in Amsterdam @ Paradiso on friday the 7th of March [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8th March, Plastic People, London http://www.plasticpeople.co.uk ... and I have my ticket already. Yay! : ) Anya From: Ryan Snowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon 24/Feb/2003 12:25 GMT To: 'Mann, Ravinder [CCS]' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 'Toby Frith' [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: (313) Theo Parrish Will have to check that out. Didn't manage to go - is electric chair tickets hard to come by? Theo delivers on and off the court, even for a techno man like myself. Is he playing other gigs in the uk? -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. --
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
Not only can you make a distinction in the melody but the type of sounds being used. Disagree; trance borrows a lot of it's sounds from techno. I disagree early Detroit techno sounds like a fusion of Kraftwerk/ Euro dance with Chicago house. Could you name some examples? Of course I know Juan, Derrick and all were definately influenced by Kraftwerk, but I don't hear that so directly in their production. Ok maybe their sounds were used a lot, but definately not their way of composing. It wasn't revolutionary to Western music. It's music that came from the drum machine era, the drum machine and sequencer more or less influenced the techno sound. Disagree again, a lot of music was already using drum machines and sequencers for years. hi-nrg, new wave, italo, house. But all that music still consisted of songs. You know, chorus, refrain, chorus. Acid house and later techno were the first to break from that tradition. Trance and progressive is basically an update to the 80's Euro dance/ Hi-NRG music although you do hear the influence of techno and house with the use of the TR-909. Take the vocals out of Erasure, the music Vince Clarke pioneered and you hear the similarities. I think you're confusing trance with electroclash here. this seems to be a common trend. I still enjoy the occasional hard banging techno track with innovative elements like Switched On Blades. Techno is like an outcast amongst the dance genres a lot of people fall back on 'house' or retro dance music like electro or Italo-disco conforming to trend and conventionalism because they lack vision when it comes to futuristic abstract music. Or the techno records that are being released are simply not that revolutionary anymore so they start looking for other stuff that can trigger their needs. And they realise that because they were almost exclusively listening to techno over all those years, they neglected some great other types of music. So they simply want to catch up. In my case it doesn't have anything to do with the nostalgia trend. Regarding electro and house it's much more about (re)discovery. I still listen to a lot of hard techno. I just hardly buy anything form detroit anymore. German producers like Ricardo Villalobos, Heiko Laux or Alter ego are much more groundbreaking nowadays.
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
I remember that, for a while, the snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and druggy chords that later came to characterise trance had permeated deeply into more pure techno. That Access track would get played at proper techno nights and, for the first few months at least, no-one would particularly bat an eyelid. Now these techniques were all very effective on the dancefloor, and after a while audiences were demanding to hear that sort of stuff all the time. Some techno DJs I know pretty much capitulated, with snare rolls every five minutes, but they still saw themselves as being techno. Because this works better on the floor and is more popular with club audiences, said some of these guys, this is the stuff that will stick around. That noodly stuff you play isn't really techno at all! In my view, the main characteristic difference between trance and techno has always been: melody. In techno generally the only real melody (if you follow the pure definition of what a melody is) you are going to find is in the bassline (if even). For the rest the music is composed of layer on top of layer of different rhythms of sounds at one or two pitches. (ok, ok, basically a rhythm of two tones is already a melody, but you will understand what I'm getting at) In a lot of cases these layers create a melody of it's own, but that's not what I mean with a real melody. Trance (and to a lesser extend house!) doesn't have that. The music is much more traditional to the extend that there is mostly a clear melody in the mid range. That's also why techno was so different from other western music, when it originated. The only music where you find a similar way of composing, is ethnic music. Another big aspect of techno (and early Chicago house/acid) and as such very often different from trance, is that techno tries to evolve, tries to bring something new, tries to bring something that has never been heard before, tries to trigger strong emotions in people by surprising them. Now for a time, snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and such were new and triggered these strong emotions in people and were part of real techno. Trance is much more oriented towards pleasing the audience, trying to bring something that people already like to hear, trying to produce sounds that the majority of the people perceive as beautiful, dreamy soundscapes. Techno has evolved on and moved to several newer levels. Trance still uses the snare rolls, 'cause they work. Now of course it's all still music and not exact science, so there will be plenty of examples of techno with melodies and trance without, and good and revolutionary trance and bad boring techno. But generally speaking you can (I at least) see the broader distinctions. That's also why I don't want to stick to one genre and I really like certain trance records (although not recently ;-) )and dislike certain techno records. As the music evolved I evolved with it. I used to love the stuff from Misjah, later that of the Liberators, again later that of Adam Beyer, Gaetek, Marco Carola. But that's all in the past. When I listen to it at home, I still like the sound in a nostalgic kind of way. I would never play it out again though (or it should be some revival thing). Now, I'm more into deephouse, Detroit house and electro (as so many old F*cks like me), no idea if that will stay forever. What are these guys now? They're trance DJs. Basically there are two kinds of DJ's. The DJ that purely wants to please the audience and give them what they want to hear and what they like best. The DJ that has the clear need to be loved and the need to be popular. And the DJ who wants to bring the audience something new and surprising. Again, of course we are all a combination of these two profiles, but we are either on one side or the other. We all like to be on stage and get the cheers, but that is different from needing it. The first kind will not take any risks when playing and go with the flow of whichever is hot at the time. The second kind will explore the boundaries and set the new trends, but will never be as popular as the first kind. Trance DJ's tend to be more of the first kind, techno DJ's you'll find in both. Although there are enough trance dj's like Tiësto who genuinely love that music (whom I consider a good dj, although I totally gag on his taste in music) and who have not jumped on the bandwagon like Pete Tong and such who will just hop on the next one when it comes along . my 2 eurocents Joost
RE: (313) The techno/trance divide - reprise?
I remember that, for a while, the snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and druggy chords that later came to characterise trance had permeated deeply into more pure techno. That Access track would get played at proper techno nights and, for the first few months at least, no-one would particularly bat an eyelid. Now these techniques were all very effective on the dancefloor, and after a while audiences were demanding to hear that sort of stuff all the time. Some techno DJs I know pretty much capitulated, with snare rolls every five minutes, but they still saw themselves as being techno. Because this works better on the floor and is more popular with club audiences, said some of these guys, this is the stuff that will stick around. That noodly stuff you play isn't really techno at all! In my view, the main characteristic difference between trance and techno has always been: melody. In techno generally the only real melody (if you follow the pure definition of what a melody is) you are going to find is in the bassline (if even). For the rest the music is composed of layer on top of layer of different rhythms of sounds at one or two pitches. (ok, ok, basically a rhythm of two tones is already a melody, but you will understand what I'm getting at) In a lot of cases these layers create a melody of it's own, but that's not what I mean with a real melody. Trance (and to a lesser extend house!) doesn't have that. The music is much more traditional to the extend that there is mostly a clear melody in the mid range. That's also why techno was so different from other western music, when it originated. The only music where you find a similar way of composing, is ethnic music. Another big aspect of techno (and early Chicago house/acid) and as such very often different from trance, is that techno tries to evolve, tries to bring something new, tries to bring something that has never been heard before, tries to trigger strong emotions in people by surprising them. Now for a time, snare rolls, big breakdowns, 303 lines and such were new and triggered these strong emotions in people and were part of real techno. Trance is much more oriented towards pleasing the audience, trying to bring something that people already like to hear, trying to produce sounds that the majority of the people perceive as beautiful, dreamy soundscapes. Techno has evolved on and moved to several newer levels. Trance still uses the snare rolls, 'cause they work. Now of course it's all still music and not exact science, so there will be plenty of examples of techno with melodies and trance without, and good and revolutionary trance and bad boring techno. But generally speaking you can (I at least) see the broader distinctions. That's also why I don't want to stick to one genre and I really like certain trance records (although not recently ;-) )and dislike certain techno records. As the music evolved I evolved with it. I used to love the stuff from Misjah, later that of the Liberators, again later that of Adam Beyer, Gaetek, Marco Carola. But that's all in the past. When I listen to it at home, I still like the sound in a nostalgic kind of way. I would never play it out again though (or it should be some revival thing). Now, I'm more into deephouse, Detroit house and electro (as so many old F*cks like me), no idea if that will stay forever. What are these guys now? They're trance DJs. Basically there are two kinds of DJ's. The DJ that purely wants to please the audience and give them what they want to hear and what they like best. The DJ that has the clear need to be loved and the need to be popular. And the DJ who wants to bring the audience something new and surprising. Again, of course we are all a combination of these two profiles, but we are either on one side or the other. We all like to be on stage and get the cheers, but that is different from needing it. The first kind will not take any risks when playing and go with the flow of whichever is hot at the time. The second kind will explore the boundaries and set the new trends, but will never be as popular as the first kind. Trance DJ's tend to be more of the first kind, techno DJ's you'll find in both. Although there are enough trance dj's like Tiësto who genuinely love that music (whom I consider a good dj, although I totally gag on his taste in music) and who have not jumped on the bandwagon like Pete Tong and such who will just hop on the next one when it comes along . my 2 eurocents Joost
RE: (313)Code Assualt (was Fw: Jeff Mills Crate Diggin')
about that time, i walked into the store. apartment after apartment piled three feet high with records. oh yeah, ask to see the gold record of africa bambaata's planet rock hanging on the wall Wow, you sure you weren't having one of those near death experiences?
RE: (313) New Beat/Saunderson etc
Wow, this thread sure brings up some great memories. Still impressed with the first time I entered Bocaccio and got my hair blow dried from that sound system! I wouldn't be surprised if B-Art is Bart Vingerhoeds. He's a guy from Holland who was pretty active in the New Beat scene. He still DJ's under the name DJ Thimbles. Just as long as I got you was my favorite house/new beat track for a long time. That catchy drum rhtythm was so wild at that time! I guess 101 did nothing else but release house and techno covers. It may be stealing, but at least it got all those beauties heard over here. Joost -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 2 december 2002 18:47 To: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: (313) New Beat/Saunderson etc I have the particular record on Speed recs. and it's pretty much the same as Saunderson's original (his name appears in the credits). Altough they might have slowed it down a bit slower for that typical New Beat- beat. :) The interesting thing is that Saunderson was apparently a fan of the New Beat sound, so maybe he liked the fact that they did his track? Also listed in the early RS discog is 'Baby Wants To Ride' by B-Art (who were they, anyway?) - seems the odd cover of US house/techno/acid was quite acceptable there then. TOM
RE: (313) New Beat/Saunderson etc
-Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost Sent: dinsdag 3 december 2002 16:39 To: 313 mailing list Subject: RE: (313) New Beat/Saunderson etc Wow, this thread sure brings up some great memories. Still impressed with the first time I entered Bocaccio and got my hair blow dried from that sound system! I wouldn't be surprised if B-Art is Bart Vingerhoeds. He's a guy from Holland who was pretty active in the New Beat scene. He still DJ's under the name DJ Thimbles. Just as long as I got you was my favorite house/new beat track for a long time. That drum rhtythm was so wild at that time! I guess 101 did nothing else but release house and techno covers. It may be stealing, but at least it got all those beauties heard over here. Joost -Original Message- From: Tom Robbins/Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 2 december 2002 18:47 To: 313 mailing list Subject: Re: (313) New Beat/Saunderson etc I have the particular record on Speed recs. and it's pretty much the same as Saunderson's original (his name appears in the credits). Altough they might have slowed it down a bit slower for that typical New Beat- beat. :) The interesting thing is that Saunderson was apparently a fan of the New Beat sound, so maybe he liked the fact that they did his track? Also listed in the early RS discog is 'Baby Wants To Ride' by B-Art (who were they, anyway?) - seems the odd cover of US house/techno/acid was quite acceptable there then. TOM
RE: (313) How to make a techno track.
And just noticed something spooky. Go to this link http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/index_e.html click on: Fight! Kikkoman(Engilsh) for a translated version and watch who wrote the lyrics!! So it's related after all! Joost -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 22 november 2002 19:25 To: 'Alexandres Lugo' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' Subject: RE: (313) How to make a techno track. Ok I just now realized why the kikkoman is funny.. a soy sauce homo-erotic super hero ! -Original Message- From: Alexandres Lugo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:20 PM To: Grammenos, Peter Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] Org' Subject: RE: (313) How to make a techno track. Come on Pete, if you're going to post that one you have to post the Kikkoman: http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso.swf Not techno related, but it does a cheesy MIDI soundtrack. Peace, Alex www.fulcruminn.net -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:09 PM To: '313@hyperreal.org' Subject: (313) How to make a techno track. http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail45.html --- Peter Grammenos Goldman Sachs Co. Tel : 212.902.2446 ---
RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna
You could try this: http://www.decksshop.de/sound/house_kz/madonna_dieanotherday+2.MP3 and then there's soulseek of course ;-) Joost -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: maandag 18 november 2002 11:06 To: 'Cyclone Wehner'; 313 Detroit Subject: RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna yeah that was me that asked about that.. thankx for the info - do you know if there rae any samples online ? [I had a scout around but couldnt find anything] cheers, Marc -Original Message- From: Cyclone Wehner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 November 2002 03:03 To: 313 Detroit Subject: (313) Felix Da Housecat Vs Madonna Someone asked about the Felix Da Housecat remix of Madonna's Die Another Day. It's actually very good. It has an electro feel. It suits the song. I don't like a lot of her remixers these days (Groove Armada's Music was OK, Luke Slater's Power was cool) but this is a good one. -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: (313) Felix Da Housecat Licence to remix...
What is the remix called exactly? Is it the Thee retrolectro mix? Joost -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 14 november 2002 13:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: (313) Felix Da Housecat Licence to remix... Anyone heard the Felix Da Housecat remix of the madonna james bond tune ? Would be intrested to find out if its any good or a load of horse £$%£% :) peace, Marc -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested...
Wether you want it or not, when you are playing somewhere where the music is loud, you will always have feedback. No matter how well you isolate your turntable. In fact, isolating the decks is to prevent rumble not feedback. The needle will pick up all kinds of vibration. Just put a record on, don't let it spin, and tap with your finger somewhere on the turntable. You will definately hear this amplified. So when the needle picks up the bass vibrations from the speakers, this is feedback. You can even shout to the needle when it's on a (stopped) record and if you record that you will hear it. You can already hear the difference when playing vinyl and CDs. CDs sound less deep on the dancefloor. Joost -Original Message- From: Langsman, Marc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 19 september 2002 16:32 To: 'Ploegmakers, Joost'; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] FiNal ScrAtch - finally roadtested... remark in this whole discussion however. One great aspect about playing music from vinyl is feedback; the amplified music, specifically bass, reflects back on the record and gets picked up by the needle again and amplified again. Too much feedback leads to rumble, but just enough creates this fat deep bass sound we're all so addicted on. Final scatch can never recreate this, since the records don't contain the actual music. realistically do you actually configure your decks so you get bass feedback ? Most places Ive played try and isolate the decks to avoid this. In fact I dont think Ive ever seen anyone with a set up designed to leverage any bass feedback - how could you ever ensure the feedback was stable ?? If you were that bothered you could always pre-process your mp3's with some feedback I guess ? -- This message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the designated recipient(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. This communication is for information purposes only and should not be regarded as an offer to sell or as a solicitation of an offer to buy any financial product, an official confirmation of any transaction, or as an official statement of Lehman Brothers. Email transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free. Therefore, we do not represent that this information is complete or accurate and it should not be relied upon as such. All information is subject to change without notice.
RE: [313] john rocca
Yes, Beggars banquet or City beat. And thanks to you I now found out he was the lead singer of Freeez ;-) Joost -Original Message- From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 6 september 2002 11:10 To: Maarten Baute; 313 Subject: Re: [313] john rocca mm nice track i think i've got a copy somewhere on beggars banquet check out farley's mix of 'move' too rc on 6/9/02 6:42 PM, Maarten Baute at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: little question: on wich label has the following track been released? john rocca - i want It to be real (farley's hot house piano mix) I don´t find any information on this on the net. Thank you, Maarten --- Do you know these tracks? http://www.morthenkiang.com/samples (taken from various mix tapes) --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
I find this all very much a shame and a pity. I see the wrong people bashing on each other. It's not Hell's fault this electroclash hype trash thing is happening. It's MoS and the UK media that are to blame. They (MoS) invested a pile of money in Fisherspooner and in order to get their investment working, had their marketing machine working full throttle. And the media swollowed it like candy. Finally they had something juicy to write about, a new hype to create! And guess what, in a year or so they can all write it off as passé again, wow. Ok, maybe Hell likes to pose here and there a bit. But Ferenc has his own little habits too. I sure didn't hear him complaining when Space invaders got chosen record of the year in Germany '99. Besides, you're not telling me they all suddenly stopped making music now... Little PR stunt maybe? This is just not right. Joost -Original Message- From: Jongsma, K.J. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 3 september 2002 10:48 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] another causality just noticed http://www.globaldarkness.com/ has shut down nice rant blaming 'electroclash' left. Hmm (taken from globaldarkness.com): --- We dont need the hollow catchphrases, the carefully created eighties retro fad, the empty music, the jaded cynicism or the poser attitude of the fake Gigolos who only sell their asses to the masses. You can all follow your leader into the electroclash HELL! --- just wondering to whom it is addressed :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Soulseek down?
Go to www.slsk.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 3 september 2002 13:16 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Soulseek down? I'm a bit concerned on the whereabouts of Soulseek. tried connecting after a few days offline and no response anymore. anybody else to experience this or is it just my new hardware configuration? -- take care, Ehtilrist - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] another causality
Hi Otto, yes you are right. But still they shouldn't blame it all on the wrong people. This scene is already too small to turn it into a I am more underground than you contest. IMHO they should just continue what they like doing best. And if in a few months they are being dismissed as sooo passé then pity for those losers. Joost -Original Message- From: Otto [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 3 september 2002 16:40 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] another causality Still, I clearly don't know Hotmix et al's reasons. Maybe they just don't want to be part of the Spectacle The main problem IMO is that 'their' sound has been adopted by people with relatively more marketing-skills than musical talent (unfortunately the two rarely go together). This makes the sound go into a direction they're not happy with. That would've been fine in itself (after all, everyone is entitled to their own taste) as long as they're not getting drawn into that. But now everything vaguely related is quickly labeled electroclash, including the people who strongly feel that they don't belong there at all. *That* is the real problem. It is a problem in particular because once this fad is over, the original electro artists will have a much harder time getting their music out there because they'll be dismissed quite easily by the media and punters: 'that sound is so passe, dahlin'... Otto PS This whole situation is nothing new BTW, the same thing happened when the harder Detroit techno sounds of Cybersonik, UR and Mills got mutated into gabba. Other examples are the UK hardcore - drum 'n bass split or when tech-house started to overlap with progressive house (like Circulation getting spun by Sasha and Digweed for instance). PPS Apologies to the LOW-subscribers who saw most of this rant in Dutch yesterday on the Lowlands-list already. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid
So it's not acid house if there's distortion on the 303?? That's adding a little too much narrowmindedness to the genre I think Acid is a feeling, just as house is ;-) personally, I wouldn't know how to really define acid house, but it sure isn't the 303 = acid equasion. There's plenty of brilliant acid around without the 303. Maurice Joshua's - I got a big d*ck as one of the best examples. And as far as distortion goes, like it or not, but Bang the Acid is still acid. Maybe you don't think it's great and it's not from the 80's or from Chicago or sounds like Phuture. But that doesn't mean it's not acid house. Joost -Original Message- From: john harvey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 30 augustus 2002 1:49 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless/acid I agree, this is real acid house - i.e. no distortion on the 303, unlike the newer stuff. john. I'll go for some old Chicago tracks that aren't *amazingly* obvious, but leave aside modern stuff (I do think that Jeff Mills and Mad Mike are the John Coltrane and Pharoah Sanders of the TB303 though, as evidenced on Seawolf and the Acid Rain series :) : Six Brown Brothers City Hall Dr Derelict That Sh*t's Wild Lidell Townsell Feel The Mood Mr Lee Never Gonna Change Hokus Pokus Different World (*especially* this track!) Mike 'Hitman' Wilson Bango Acid JM Silk Music Is The Key Maurice This is Acid Hot Hanas Hula Hot Hands The Porch Monkeys Hello Lover and of course the tear-jerkingly poignant I Got A Big D*ck by Maurice Joshua... Brendan | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 11:04 PM | To: 313@hyperreal.org | Subject: Re: [313] off topic but fun nonetheless | | | hello all- | | i am hoping to get everyone's help in suggesting some definitive | acid house tracks for downloading purposes. i'm hoping to fill up | at least a cd with mp3 tracks so i'd appreciate as many | suggestions as possible. | | THANKS | | -sam | | Without listing the numerous and obvious late 80s Chicago classics, | here are a few off the top of my head that possibly wont make too | many obvious lists, but are worth digging out again (I often do) | Actually one would probably argue that 303 baselines aside these | dont really belong in the same crate as 'Acid House', but if youre | just looking for a funky 303 trip then here you go :) | | Twister - Underground Resistance | Bang the Acid - Damon Wild and Tim Taylor | Horses - Voodoo Child (Yes I know thats Moby!) | That Sysex track off the secong Plus 8 From Our Minds to yours | album. Plasticity - Plastikman The final Frontier - UR | Vertigo - K Alexi | | Also I remember having these wicked 8 track white labels that I | think were by the Kosmic Kommando and were just all purely 303, 909 | and 808 made tunes, but I used to love mixing them all together in | one big sick trick acid set!! Man, I need to find my old mix tapes | :) | | Stewart | | | | ___ | Freeserve AnyTime, only £13.99 per month with one month's FREE trial! | For more information visit http://www.freeserve.com/time/ or call | free on 0800 970 8890 | | | | | - | To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] 10 days of techno URL
It is absolutely great. If you have the chance to visit, go! Definately worth it. I visited some years ago (when it was still called 10 days of techno) and I loved it. Great laid back atmosphere, nice people, no rave feeling whatsoever. And the music, well, you only had to look at the line up to know enough. Will probably be the same this year. I was lucky enough to visit 2 days of the daughter event, 5 days off in Amsterdam last week and saw Laurent Garnier, Miss Kittin the Hacker, Tiga, Vitalic, Plaid, Funckarma, I.F. and then some. Two of the best evenings in years! Joost -Original Message- From: Neil Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 23 juli 2002 14:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] 10 days of techno URL wow - never heard of this before but it looks very cool. great line up and a very reasonable looking price tag. has anyone been before/know what to expect? cheers neil :-Original Message- :From: robin pinning [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 12:29 PM :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Cc: 313@hyperreal.org :Subject: Re: [313] 10 days of techno URL : : :hi aril, : :try: : :http://www.10daysoff.be/ : :cheers : :robin... : : hi, : : does anyone have the url to the festival in belgium? : : regards, : : /a : : : :- :To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] OT: Junkie XL is a big scam
Guess what I just discovered at about 3h 57min in this mix by Alex Paterson: http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/lounge8-31-00.ram This mix is from 08/31/2000! I've always known that Tom Holkenborg was a fraud when I saw a few of his livesets where he playbacked the whole thing from DAT. And you know that someone who kicks each and everyone out of his band one by one cannot be trusted, but to simply steal someone elses idea and score a worldwide hit with it without giving any credit is just beneath any respect. Does anyone know which mix that is that Alex is playing, or is he mixing the original over something else? I wonder what Dr Alex thinks of this Joost - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT amsterdam help
Oh man, your timing couldn't be any worse. you will just miss the 5 days off event @ the Melkweg (http://www.5daysoff.nl/artiesten.htm) but you could hop on the train to Gent in Belgium (takes about 3 hours) and catch 10 days off there (the mother event) (http://www.dma.be/p/5voor12/10DO2002/UK/10daysoff_eng.htm) You could also check out K-Hand and Peel Seamus DJ Aardvärck (Delsin) @ Paradiso on the 26th. For the rest I wouldn't really know. Can't help you with coffeeshops either, since I'm not from A'dam myself, but my best bet would be to just go to any coffeeshop. Buy what you want, hope for nice weather and chill out in the Vondelpark. Success, Joost -Original Message- From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 4 juli 2002 19:31 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] OT amsterdam help hey, looks like I'm going to be in Amsterdam from the 23rd to the 26th of July - anyone know of any 313 or hip hop/house related events on at that time? Also, i've been to Amsterdam a few times before and alwqys had the best of times and the people are so friendlybut i'm still looking for that perfect coffee shop...you know the one with the relaxed, friendly atmosphere AND the perfect music policy? I know its out there somewhere, anyone got any ideas? Hit me back privately... Peace, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] OT: Junkie XL is a big scam
In the mix there is a breakbeat version of that Elvis song. And the mix is 2 years old. Leard Heard has more than enough credits for lipsyncing over his live sets. He has given the world so many beautiful things. I clearly can't say the same of Mr Holkenborg. Strangely enough, he does have connections to get jealous about though. Joost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 5 juli 2002 16:30 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] OT: Junkie XL is a big scam Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers Start of message text I don't think I understand... Junkie XL is the guy who did the Elvis re-make for the NIKE ad right? Explain further please, my work server can't get me on that mix. Also, on this topic, I saw Larry Heard play live about 6 or 7 years ago and he did the whole thing from DAT, even the vocals that he was miming into the mic. The only reason we sussed it was because he stopped singing and playing his keyboard and the singing and playing mysteriously carried on...! Having said that, it doesn't detract from the fact that I have the utmost respect for him, I mean, he still made the music right, and he is THE don. Anyways, more info please... Ta. Ploegmakers, Joost [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/07/2002 15:21:18 To:313@hyperreal.org cc: Subject:[313] OT: Junkie XL is a big scam Guess what I just discovered at about 3h 57min in this mix by Alex Paterson: http://www.betalounge.com/stuff/lounge8-31-00.ram This mix is from 08/31/2000! I've always known that Tom Holkenborg was a fraud when I saw a few of his livesets where he playbacked the whole thing from DAT. And you know that someone who kicks each and everyone out of his band one by one cannot be trusted, but to simply steal someone elses idea and score a worldwide hit with it without giving any credit is just beneath any respect. Does anyone know which mix that is that Alex is playing, or is he mixing the original over something else? I wonder what Dr Alex thinks of this Joost - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - End of message text This e-mail is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If an addressing or transmission error has misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author by replying to this e-mail. If you are not the intended recipient you must not use, disclose, copy, print or rely on this e-mail. The principal place of business of PricewaterhouseCoopers and its associate partnerships is 1 Embankment Place, London WC2N 6RH where lists of the partners' names are available for inspection. All partners in the associate partnerships are authorised to conduct business as agents of, and all contracts for services to clients are with, PricewaterhouseCoopers. The UK firm of PricewaterhouseCoopers is authorised by the Financial Services Authority for investment business activities. PricewaterhouseCoopers is a member of the world-wide PricewaterhouseCoopers organisation. PricewaterhouseCoopers may monitor outgoing and incoming e-mails and other telecommunications on its e-mail and telecommunications systems. By replying to this e-mail you give your consent to such monitoring. Visit our website http://www.pwcglobal.com _ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven
Hi, I believe you guys are missing an important aspect here. We are talking about PARTIES here. Parties are supposed to be fun and the DJ should just as much be a part of the party as the crowd is. DC clearly is not. He acts as if it's only a job he has to do and although it IS for him, it should be more than just showing up in time and dropping his records. Sven's attitude is not about look at how cheery I am. It's about partying together with the crowd and showing respect to the crowd by not only dropping the best tunes in the best possible build up (and making them go totally mad in the process), playing for as long as the clubowner lets him and by being on the floor before his sets, checking the atmosphere out and talking to people, even remembering when he has spoken to them before and about what! We are still an underground scene, where the stars don't need to develop arrogant attitudes and need bodyguards and all that nonsense. I had the pleasure of visiting the Rex in Paris once where Sven was playing. When I entered the club, he was standing at the bar and he approached ME asking surprised what I was doing here since I was from Holland where I'd spoken with him at a party months before. He knew that!! He immediately introduced me to Terence Fixmer who was there too. Later he played a great set in that strange DJ booth with the windows open. It was so funny to see the three lines thick of trainspotters standing there the whole time. A couple of weeks later I saw a documentary on Dutch TV about Dave Clarke. There he was also playing at the Rex. There you saw him sitting backstage the whole time before his set, by himself, looking as if he was waiting for a dentist appointment. When he came on he had no idea what the DJ before him had been doing, then the windows went shut Now there's a guy who must really love his job. A job that 1000's of others would kill for. On the subject of the Rex, if there's one DJ who constantly switches places with Sven on my most favourite list, it's Laurent Garnier... Joost -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 19 april 2002 10:11 To: Nicole Slavin; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] RE: (313) Hawtin vs. Sven anyway, why does everyone have to be a 'hello have a nice day' person. it's no real indication of character. and besides, i've always wanted to bump carl cox off the decks. Respect to Nicole! Couldn't have put it better myself. If a DJ can DJ well, but they don't dance around or smile or say Hello to you, then what difference does it make? Surely the only thing that matters is that they turn up on time then proceed rock the venue with excellent records and top-notch mixing. Dave Clarke has attitude and it comes across in his DJ style - that's the man. It's what makes the DJ is is. He likes plays brutal, hard, dark techno. If you wanna see a smiley, dancing joker of a fool then go hear Judge Jules - and don't forget your glowstick! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven
And how did he do? -Original Message- From: Grammenos, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 18:48 To: 'Ploegmakers, Joost'; ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven Sven Vath. -Original Message- From: Ploegmakers, Joost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 12:44 PM To: ryan burns; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven The only other Sharivari remix I know of is the Hacker Vitalic remix on Gigolo. I think it rocks, but of course don't know if Richie played that one. Sven who? is meant in the subject by the way? Joost -Original Message- From: ryan burns [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 17 april 2002 07:50 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin vs. Sven anyone know what version of sharivari he played? fowlkes version?? or what octave one track? From: Grammenos, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] He also worked a track from octave one for about 15 minutes, working it through a sampler of sorts, _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Hawtin/Acquaviva - Human League track
Yes, this is the Alter Ego mix (Klang 62). It's still for sale on http://www.technovinyl.de . Not sure if they ship outside Europe though. I am also very curious to know the name of the first track in that mix. Anyone? bye, Joost -Original Message- From: Eli Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: vrijdag 22 maart 2002 08:13 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] Hawtin/Acquaviva - Human League track I haven't listened to the mix yet, but recently there was a remix of this song on a limited Klang release by Alter Ego. Very much a new track, but produced to kinda sound old... -Eli B On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:05:36AM -0700, Keith Mleczko wrote: I've been listening to the 3/8/02 Hawtin/Acquaviva tag on http://www.paxahau.com/archives.htm and was hoping someone could help me with the All I Ever Wanted track by Human League at about 40 mins. It sorta has that mid 80's Wax Trax sound. Is this a remix? Thanks Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org
Hi, I'm always a bit confused about how I feel on these practises. I've seen it happen before: D.J. or producer or singer gets famous easily by being friends with the right people at the right time, (sometimes good looks are are great help in this) get noticed by the larger ignorant crowd and media by playing commercial crap music and when at the righ momentum they get educated, miraculously develop a sense of taste and decide to break with the past and now all of a sudden expect the true people to take them seriously. That's the negative point of view. On the other side, the good taste was probably always there, it just needed some time to surface. And at least the person in question has seen the light (some people never do). We've seen it happen with big names like: Madonna George Michael Robbie Williams And now with 100% Isis (and I bet there are more examples from the underground) My dilemma is: I really have respect for Madonna, George and Robbie. Is there something wrong with me? Joost -Original Message- From: Martijn de Blaauw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 09:28 To: bart wolff; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org Her latest mix-cd called ´reformations´or ´transformation´(i believe?) is quite good, as mentioned already, deep/dark/funky techno and no more clubby stuff, she broke with that kind of sound and scene... What´s next..dj Joost van Bellen playing Awakenings??? -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: bart wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 26 februari 2002 9:57 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: Re: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org Well, i am not a fan of 100%isis, but i must say, that a year or so, she has stunned me a few times with a very good, pumping, minimal techno set Yes i know, all the Dutch on the list find that hard to believe, and so do i...but it's a fact At 25-2-2002 + 16:00, you wrote: Following on from that, maybe some of the Dutch and Belgian contingent on here may be able to help... I heard a mix by a female Dutch DJ called 100% Esis (or something like that) on London's Kiss FM a couple of years back which mixed the likes of 16b, Mills and others in a quick half hour mix. Anybody heard of her or seen her play? Cheers Toby - Original Message - From: Jongsma, K.J. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: [313] Lady Aida interview @ technotourist dot org Hi, We have added an interview with one of Hollands leading techno DJ's, Lady Aida to our website. She is an excellent DJ, she writes her column for a big dutch music magazine and her clubnight (Fluid) in her hometown Eindhoven is one of the longest running clubnights in Holland. For those of you who don't have a clue who she is (proberly 95% of you :)) we have added to DJ mixes from her to our website. One of them is recorded live at Fluid, the other one shows the state of the dutch techno scene, so one mix with only dutch artists. read and listen here: http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Sectionsfile=indexr eq =viewarticleartid=10 or: http://technotourist.org and click on 'Interviews' and select 'Lady Aida' Enjoy! [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- DISCLAIMER De gemeente Almelo aanvaardt voor haar medewerkers geen enkele aansprakelijkheid voor eventueel onjuist, onrechtmatig of ontoelaatbaar geacht gebruik van e-mail (inclusief bijlagen). Dit e-mail bericht is door de gemeente Almelo gecontroleerd op de aanwezigheid van eventuele virussen. Wij kunnen echter geen garantie afgeven dat al onze e-mail berichten volledig virus vrij zijn. Het is daarom verstandig uw binnenkomende e-mail berichten zelf op de mogelijke aanwezigheid van virussen te controleren. -- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. . :: http://nomorewords.net B - Out _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands
RE: [313] re- gary numan
F*cking 'avin' it was actually the last part of the title. Well at least they're honest about themselves... -Original Message- From: Tim Maughan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 14 februari 2002 16:03 To: Eric Scuccimarra; D.Maj. DDBB-P; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] re- gary numan on 14/2/02 1:37 pm, Eric Scuccimarra at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Liberator D.J.s for those that don't know, the liberator DJs are part of London's underground rance scene. they once did a mix CD called its not from Detroit and its not intelligent but its f*cking banging. i think that says it all really. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] gary numan
This is definately off topic, but this morning I heard on the radion that the new Sugababes single is going to be a remake of Are Friends Electric. After some research I found that it's going to be a mix of Gary Numan and Adina howard. You can download a fragment here: http://www.mandymoore4always.org/sugababes/main.html. It sounds absolutely horrible. Joost -Original Message- From: Neil Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 13 februari 2002 15:34 To: 313 Subject: [313] gary numan i was listening to telekon last night and even more impressed than usual, have any 313 artists used obvious numan samples? i know there were a collection of remixes that came out about 4/5 years ago - the only one i remember is dave clarkes cars. cheers neil - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] chicago-house-inspired italoesque disco / Legowelt
Some labels in the same direction: Lasergun International DJ Gigolo Erkrankung Durch Musique Pocketgame -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 7 februari 2002 19:55 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] chicago-house-inspired italoesque disco / Legowelt Greetings all... The tie to 313 is a slim one, however, I am very interested in the almost chicago-house-inspired italoesque disco/ electro of the dutch Legowelt (aka Dj Marquis de Blanco.) It would be much appreciated if any listmembers could point me in the direction of some classic material with ties to this sound, and some new labels/artists (besides the obvious Bunker/viewlexx den haag sounds). I am currently producing tracks that bear a resemblance to this sound and I would like to expand my knowledge. Any ideas/comments/etc welcome. -J. This transmission is confidential and intended solely for the person or organization to whom it is addressed. It may contain privileged and confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not copy, distribute or take any action in reliance on it. If you believe you received this transmission in error, please notify the sender. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] about the members
ok, ok - name: Joost Ploegmakers - sex: M - age: 35 - Born: Amsterdam, Holland - currently: Utrecht, Holland - occupation: Product manager Netherlands for some internet company - subscribed: don't remember - Music: Deephouse, electro, german techno, detroit techno, disco, new wave. Totally into Adult-y, Clone-y, Gigolo-y, retro-electro-techno 80ies soundalike stuff. Addicted to house/techno music since 1988 - DJ: When I found out this wasn't reserved to some strange special species but that I could actually do this myself, DJ since 1990, but way too little. - producing: since 1989, but way too little - musical highlight so far: playing at Dance valley Festival 1998 - Coming musical highlight: Playing at De vloer in Utrecht for the first time this feb 15. This is the same venue where I first discovered house and acid in '88, where I got infected with the fever that has never let me loose ever again. - Records: not enough - cd's: not really - Dream about: Owning my own island, having our own laws and partying with all my friends till we get bored of it and start playing videogames together and get bored of that and start fishing and get bored of that and start partying and... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] pump up the volume / ron hardy
Hi Jurren, That's Visage - Frequency 7, a track made legendary by a.o. Ron Hardy. By the way the link to episode 2 isn't working anymore. If you downloaded that one, could you maybe put it somewhere for download? Or do you happen to know another download location? This is great material! Bye, Joost -Original Message- From: jurren baars [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 22 januari 2002 18:29 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] pump up the volume / ron hardy i've been watching pump up the volume episode 1 for the third time this weekend, and was wondering if there's someone who knows what the track playing in the background at the start of the ron hardy/ muzic box segment is? it starts at around 26 minutes into the show. (for those who haven't been paying attention: episode 1 and 2 are up on the deephousepage.com. click on message board, and then on viewing room.) jurren _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FinalScratch package price
2. He was impressed by the new Pioneer decks, except that the wheels don't spin. ?? Isn't that sort of a basic requirement for a turntable? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] FinalScratch package price
Well, yes and no, This pro version obviously comes with a laptop, but runs on Beos. Beos also runs on Mac. So from what I understand Finalscratch should be able to run on a mac. But it doesn't run on Mac OS, no. Joost -Original Message- From: Glyph1001 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 1 november 2001 00:10 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] FinalScratch package price Damn that's wack...no Mac Version glyph. M Elliot-Knight wrote: This is from an email directly from n2it that I got about FinalScratch... this version is $2,999.00 so that little Spin feature on DJ equipment was correct (if you buy this verison). Check the added feature that Richie and John have added to the package. MEK As part of this limited iiPROFSlo we will offer a completely congured, ready-to-use and ready-to-go system that consists of the following components: + FINALSCRATCH software package + ScratchAmp signal processor + Three FINALSCRATCH records + Two FINALSCRATCH slipmats + Audio and USB cables + Installation and User's Manual + Sony Vaio or similar laptop loaded with a dual boot system of BeOS and Windows + After sales service, maintenance and e-mail support FINALSCRATCH will come already loaded and ready to play with selected tracks from the catalogue of Plus 8 and Denitive Records. You can then just load and `rip' your own music les and go from there. The price for the complete PROFS is USD 2,999.00 excluding shipping, handling and taxes. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] Techno for funerals
Hadn't checked the 303 list for quite some time, but I had to answer to this one.. I made this list years ago and it hasn't changed since. In no particular order: Dave Angel - Airborne (Carl Craig's drums suck mix) Humanoid - Stakker Humanoid Rolling Stones - Sympathy for the Devil (no techno, but it's gonna be played at my funeral) Joost -Original Message- From: Roland van Oorschot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:33 AM To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: [313] Techno for funerals Oi! Which techno track do you want to be played at your funeral? My last wish would be: The Martian Model 500 - Search your Feelings (RedPlanet-4) R. (hey...just asking!) --- f:un[x]iun http://funxiun.2y.net Weblog, Webcam, Technomusic and more ... --- - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] What's to do in San Francisco tonight and the next 4 weeks?
Hi I'm from Holland and I'm in the Bay area for the coming month. Can anybody help me in where to go out? I'm mostly into anything from proper deephouse via electro to full on techno. No trance, no DB, no walzes. Tomorrow I'm going to check out Mark Farina at the DNA Lounge, but I still don't know where to go tonight and the following weekends. During the week I'm working in San Jose, so weekdays is out of the question. Unless there's something really worthwhile of course ;-) Thanks in advance, Joost - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] ADULT. live show
damn, where was this? Joost -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John Osselaer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Verzonden: dinsdag 25 september 2001 12:14 Aan: 313@hyperreal.org Onderwerp: [313] ADULT. live show I went to see ADULT. last Friday (together with KJ and Peter) and had a blast. Although I was still a bit ill and very weak I danced my *ss off. Probably the best party I went to this year. Adam and Nicola had lost two cases with material on their way over, but the promotor managed to get all the gear together by the time the party started. ADULT. were great and the crowd - a dark crossover between punk, newwave, EBM, techno, etc. - went totally crazy, dancing like maniacs and shouting their lungs out. The sound was cristalclear and loud as hell, my ears were buzzing untill the next morning. Try to catch them if they play anywhere near you!! John _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] snowwhite virus??
Hi, any of you guys also received a mail called something like snowwhite and the 7 dwarfs? The sender was somebody else, but from the headers I found the sender to be Helo paxahau or something of the sort (I immediately deleted it, so I don't know precisely). It contains a virus. Joost - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [313] how was technomoto fest? (off topic)
Man this is stuff only Americans can understand. Drive thru ATM's, Coney Islands, Buick Lesabres, Angelo's??? Ya gotta love your culture... Joost -Original Message- From: Joshua M. Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 31 juli 2001 11:59 To: 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [313] how was technomoto fest? (off topic) I drove my big ass Buick backwards through an ATM in downtown Flint yesterday...while listenening to DJ Funk - work dat body. The strange part was waiting for the two cars in back of us. One rusted minivan, another 85 Buick Lesabre (this one 2 door) with a passenger but no driver.* The minivan was parked at the ATM for a good 5 minutes. A situation explained by the fact that the driver of the Lesabre was actually in the passenger seat of the minivan making some sort of transaction. Consumption of Flint style coney islands ensued...* The connection between this and Christian Bloch? He started this thread by doing something backwards, and he closed out his Techmoto show with Blake Baxter - work dat body. -- Joshua here i am, rock you like a hurricane Hill - [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hillhaus.com / www.ai-studio.com Meteorite - The Student Journal of Philosophy at the University of Michigan Editor-in-Chief / Head of Design University of Michigan: isr: psc: ssdan: Graphic Designer -- * One out of every ten cars in Flint seems to be an 85 Buick Lesabre. It is (not was) the Buick City. * Flint town coneys are different than Detroit coneys, the sauce is a little more wet. If anyone is interested, try Angelo's. There are 5 different Angelo's now, but the best one is the orriginal - for 53 years or something - on M21 (Davison Rd/Lapeer Rd). Still open 24 hours, even though most of the auto plants aren't. My girlfriend and I are doing a tour and ranking of coney islands in Detroit, the photos should be up in the next few months. There are two sections: coney islands with glass partitions and those without. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Re: [313] another Carl Craig article]
but I feel sorry for the monkey. joshtwentythree [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that action is necessary. Nothing too militant, or extreeme, but i think that we need to show pop culture media, that we want Carl Craig to stay. ok here's what we do...well...it would be better if we had some extra time to set this up, but time is of the essence, first...we're gonna need a monkey...I know, monkey are cliche...but this is neccesary...ok, so we train the monkey over the next two weeks to be able to pretend to be Carol Marvin...then when the time of the demf nears we get a crack force of geeky techno guys...i know...we're stretching a little bit here...but -some- of us have to spend some time outside, play basketbal or something, I'll need a show of hands of people who have seen the sun and broken a sweat because of moving in the last 6 months, we'll use those guys to make the team...anyway. so we kidnap Carol Marvin with our awesome team of geeky techno guys and replace her with the monkey, I'm sure since we're so close to the DEMF no one will notice, hopefully the looking for lice in peoples hair will be attributed to stress...so the carol monkey will give said speeches which will consist of ook ook and eek eek and hopefully some poop throwing...that would be a plus, this will hopefully do some damage to her reputationso we take Carol back to our secret base...uh, any volunteers for a secret base?...and make her watch Brady Bunch reruns and The Sound of Music over and over again with the sound up loud while playing Britney Spears oops...I did it again at the same time, this coupled with Ubersamalian(did I get that right) smith lip synching the whole time in nothing but a g-string and some of those little nipple tassles...these actions should in no time at all get her to concede to our demands...what do you guys think? I've put a lot of time into this idea... josh23 |please kill me.| __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] The history of house music retold!
Maybe this was already covered on 313, but: http://deephouse.biostat.wisc.edu/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topicf=1t=000825 (this will probably be displayed broken) This is a link on www.deephousepage.com I just discovered to a messageboard thread. The most amazing thread I have ever read in my life! It is a piece of genuine and revolutionary house music history, told by the people who were actually there, in the middle of the scene at the beginning of the 80's. It's 7 pages long, but definately a must read for everybody interested in the history of underground dance music. And even if your not interested in the history, it's still a must read, because it just such an incredible bunch of messages. Please do not stop after the first few messages but read on! It left me with my mouth wide open for hours. If you can't get the link to work, go to the messageboard on http://www.deephousepage.com and search for a thread called LEONARD REMIX RROY I guarantee it will be worth your while. Joost *** Wouldn't it have been nice If house music had originated in a club called The Elevator *** Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[313] Re: [[313] Dave Clarke? -- Please ignore if you don't like rants.]
I somewhat have to agree with you there, I think Dave Clarke is one of many largely overrated dj's of our time. And on top of that he's an arrogant pompous ass as well. But you can't judge a dj on one mix. You should listen to more of him and when you have the chance, see him in action. I only said he's largely overrated. Not that he's a bad dj! Joost Bulger, Tim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I heard people here talking about Dave Clarke, and I've heard him compared to Hawtin in other circles, so I decided to give him a shot. I downloaded 'Dave Clarke - Live @ I Love Techno [Red Room]' from Napster and I would like to know, has anyone else heard this? RANT What the hell is this guy trying to do? Excessive use of Pioneer DJM-600 effects on cheesy default settings, no regard whatsoever for 4/4 timing and proper breaks, and a complete lack of song selection seemed to be the obvious problems I saw. Hawtin could make a more entertaing show with the original RCA phonograph and two volume controls. /RANT On the good side, he has some nice crossfader technique once in awhile. Sorry, I had to get this off of my chest, but if someone out there knows of a good set by our esteemed Mr. Clarke, please clue me in. Regards, Tim - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The first thing Microsoft will produce that doesn't suck, will probably be a vacuum cleaner Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
