Re: [AFMUG] Email Servers

[Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF]

Jesse,
 
+1 with MagicMail.  Been very happy with them

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Thursday, September 12, 2024, 5:55:04 PM, you wrote:

> MagicMail has been solid for us for almost 2 decades.


> On 9/12/24 3:39 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
>> I have no desire, or users requests for those services.  Just 
>> Pop3/IMAP/SMTP. 

>> On 9/12/2024 4:27 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>>> I'm moving from Zimbra to Carbonio, but if you're not liking all of that 
>>> business-centric stuff, you probably won't be happy there either.


>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
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>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> From: "Nate Burke" 
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2024 4:24:26 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Email Servers

>>> I've been using Merak/Icewarp email server for a long long time. Like 
>>> 20+ years, it's just worked, and worked, and worked.  The software has 
>>> been slowly migrating into becoming an MS exchange replacement with 
>>> Groupware/files/cloud, and has made just a simple SMTP/IMAP/POP3/webmail 
>>> server very difficult and expensive.

>>> I know that moving systems is bothersome, especially with users who 
>>> might need to be 'touched' to update settings.  But I think it's time to 
>>> start looking at other options.

>>> Has anyone had to do this recently.  What system did you migrate 
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Re: [AFMUG] Netskrt.io

[Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF]

Jason,
 
Yes been using it for a while now.  I off loads some traffic.  I installed at 
end of last football season, so only had one Thursday night game left.  Waiting 
to see what it does this year.  Other than football it does do some caching on 
a regular basis.

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[AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

[Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF]

We may have the opportunity to grab 2 strands of dark fiber.  These will allow 
us to build a loop between two points on our network.  We have been told we can 
also break into this fiber within our loop.  I'm guessing when we break into 
this fiber they will just extend the dark fiber into our handhole and we will 
be responsible to figure out what we do once we cut into that fiber.

I'm trying to figure out if there is a way to do this passively so we don't 
have to depend on having our loop run though a customers location.  I was 
thinking of CWDM.  I can setup a CWDM/DWDM at our site and send multiple wave 
lengths down the fiber.  Is there a way for me to break out just one wavelength 
at a hand hole passively? 

Let's say I have a North/South run of 2 strands going though a hand hole and I 
what to break out 1270nm for a customer.  Is there away for me in the hand 
hole, passively, to peel off just 1270nm.  Put something like a 1x2 splitter in 
on N1, N2, S1, S2 and send those 4 fibers into the customer site.  Then install 
a couple of 1270nm optics in a switch to preserve the loop for that one 
customer.  

Do the optics do all the magic or are there some type of filters in the 
DWDM/CWDM modules?




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[AFMUG] LiFePO4 question again

[Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF]

I'm finding hard to pass up just getting a 100ah 48v LiFePO4 rackmount battery. 
 I have a new fiber system that will need a maximum of 3kw once it is maxed out 
over the years.  This seems like an easy and clean battery solution.

Question is how do I power the system from the AC side on a daily basis and 
keep the battery charged.  The normal rectifier way seems to be a bit lacking 
in LiFePO4 support.

I can get a EG4 Chargeverter 48V 100A Battery Charger that looks like it would 
do the job.  Not sure if this thing is designed to run 24/7 at load or if it is 
designed for intermittent loads to just charge batteries.

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[AFMUG] Fiber on bad spool

[Mark - Myakka Technologies via AF]

I have some 144 fiber that is sitting on a wooden spool that is rotting away.  
Apparently this spool is in real bad shape.  I'm waiting on some pictures to 
see how bad.  Guys are telling me we are going to have to abandon all the 
fiber.  I hoping to try to re-spool it to another spool.

Any tips or tricks?


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[AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

I know we have been though this many times and I thought I understood it.

-48VDC is the Negative side being HOT, correct?

It is BAD to try to mix -48VDC and 48VDC 

There is no such thing as a -48V battery.  A battery is a battery, correct?

How about the ICT Platinum power supplies.  They show as 48VDC, can they be 
used on -48VDC equipment?

I remember Check saying something about a way to test to see if a piece of 
equipment that is Neg 48VDC is truly grounded as Neg 48VDC.


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Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

lot about Bluetooth. I'm used to lots of 
>> controls and stats via web and SNMP from some of the high end charge 
>> controllers like Alpha, Eltek, ICT. How do you access the battery 
>> control module at a remote site if it's Bluetooth? Or is that just for
PKvA> initial commissioning?
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> From: dmmoff...@gmail.com
>> Sent: 1/3/2024 1:25:16 PM
>> To: "'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'" 
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant
>>
>> We're still building with VRLA batteries...but that's just the 
>> combination of conservatism and institutional momentum.  I'd look
PKvA> seriously at LiFePo4.
>> For compatibility with existing rectifiers you'd look for battery 
>> packs with a charge controller and management built in.  You can then 
>> disable the temperature comp, equalization, or whatever other 
>> smart/fancy stuff the rectifier would do and just let it serve as a 
>> power supply and distribution device.
>>
>> There's a devil on my shoulder telling me that with Lithium drop in 
>> replacements with integrated controllers I can eliminate the rectifier 
>> and just get a beefy 48V power supply and a PDU.  But there's that 
>> institutional momentum thing again.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
>> Technologies
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2024 1:45 PM
>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] -48v power plant
>>
>> Happy New Year
>>
>> I need to build a new -48v power plant.  Last one I did was about 7 
>> years ago.  I know things have changed.  Any recommendations on
PKvA> manufacturers?
>> What are thoughts about LiFePO batteries vs the standard telcomm
PKvA> batteries?
>>
>>
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[AFMUG] -48v power plant

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Happy New Year

I need to build a new -48v power plant.  Last one I did was about 7 years ago.  
I know things have changed.  Any recommendations on manufacturers? What are 
thoughts about LiFePO batteries vs the standard telcomm batteries?


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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Josh,

Not yet.  Just got it in yesterday.  working on getting it programmed. 
 
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Wednesday, April 26, 2023, 11:57:42 AM, you wrote:

> Is it in place?

> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 11:32 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:

>> Josh,

>> typo - 2116
>>  
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>> Wednesday, April 26, 2023, 9:07:35 AM, you wrote:

>>> 2016 being the 2116?  Or the 2216?

>>> Sounds like you didn't install it?  Swap it in there and see if it fixes 
>>> your issue.

>>> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 6:10 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>  wrote:

>>>> I have the new 2016 in and programmed up.  But I'm still dealing with more 
>>>> immediate issues.
>>>>  
>>>> We are taking a mix of full or partial routes from our providers.  The 
>>>> issue seems to be when one line gets cut, it takes a bit for our old 
>>>> routers to recalculate the tables.  
>>>>  
>>>> Should  I just take default routes?  That way there is a lot less math 
>>>> needed when a line goes down.  I'm assuming inbound BGP will still be 
>>>> optimized for shorted path.  How will that work for the two IX's we 
>>>> connect to? Are they smart enough to calculate best path even if the 
>>>> traffic comes from outside the IX. 

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>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 11:37:35 AM, you wrote:

>>>>> We did not have to do that. But we did set some values the same/similar 
>>>>> in the OSPF interfaces.
>>>>> Maybe it’s a matter of implementation, but we do not use broadcast on 
>>>>> interfaces and we do not use md5.
>>>>>  
>>>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:21 AM
>>>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>>>  
>>>>> we had to change our ospf from simple to md5 and from point to point to 
>>>>> broadcast to get it to play ball between v7 and v6
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Josh,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I will.  I think v7 will be able to handle BGP, OSPF and Filter rules 
>>>>>> just fine.  Learning the new configure of v7 should not be a huge issue. 
>>>>>>  The big thing I'm worried about is the OSPF interaction between the 
>>>>>> versions.
>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:52:37 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Let us know how that goes - I was just looking at the 2116 myself.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is 
>>>>>>>> time to try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see 
>>>>>>>> what happens.  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>>>>> www.Myakka.com
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>>>>>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Josh,

typo - 2116
 
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Wednesday, April 26, 2023, 9:07:35 AM, you wrote:

> 2016 being the 2116?  Or the 2216?

> Sounds like you didn't install it?  Swap it in there and see if it fixes your 
> issue.

> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 6:10 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:

>> I have the new 2016 in and programmed up.  But I'm still dealing with more 
>> immediate issues.
>>  
>> We are taking a mix of full or partial routes from our providers.  The issue 
>> seems to be when one line gets cut, it takes a bit for our old routers to 
>> recalculate the tables.  
>>  
>> Should  I just take default routes?  That way there is a lot less math 
>> needed when a line goes down.  I'm assuming inbound BGP will still be 
>> optimized for shorted path.  How will that work for the two IX's we connect 
>> to? Are they smart enough to calculate best path even if the traffic comes 
>> from outside the IX. 

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>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 11:37:35 AM, you wrote:

>>> We did not have to do that. But we did set some values the same/similar in 
>>> the OSPF interfaces.
>>> Maybe it’s a matter of implementation, but we do not use broadcast on 
>>> interfaces and we do not use md5.
>>>  
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:21 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>  
>>> we had to change our ospf from simple to md5 and from point to point to 
>>> broadcast to get it to play ball between v7 and v6
>>>  
>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Josh,
>>>>  
>>>> I will.  I think v7 will be able to handle BGP, OSPF and Filter rules just 
>>>> fine.  Learning the new configure of v7 should not be a huge issue.  The 
>>>> big thing I'm worried about is the OSPF interaction between the versions.
>>>>  
>>>> --
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>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>  
>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>  
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>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:52:37 AM, you wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> Let us know how that goes - I was just looking at the 2116 myself.
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is 
>>>>>> time to try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see what 
>>>>>> happens.  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>>>  
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>>>>>>  
>>>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036, it would take 5 - 10 minutes for /ip 
>>>>>>> route print to reflect an upstream change and then another 5 - 10 
>>>>>>> minutes for the traffic to actually change directions.
>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>>>>> The Brothers WISP




>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 12:25:14 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>>>>> I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's 
>>>>>>> been a while.

>>>>>>> I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think 
>>>>>>> it's 10-15 though.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

I have the new 2016 in and programmed up.  But I'm still dealing with more 
immediate issues.
 
We are taking a mix of full or partial routes from our providers.  The issue 
seems to be when one line gets cut, it takes a bit for our old routers to 
recalculate the tables.  
 
Should  I just take default routes?  That way there is a lot less math needed 
when a line goes down.  I'm assuming inbound BGP will still be optimized for 
shorted path.  How will that work for the two IX's we connect to? Are they 
smart enough to calculate best path even if the traffic comes from outside the 
IX. 

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Thursday, April 20, 2023, 11:37:35 AM, you wrote:

> We did not have to do that. But we did set some values the same/similar in 
> the OSPF interfaces.
> Maybe it’s a matter of implementation, but we do not use broadcast on 
> interfaces and we do not use md5.
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Steve Jones
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:21 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>  
> we had to change our ospf from simple to md5 and from point to point to 
> broadcast to get it to play ball between v7 and v6
>  
> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:03 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:
>> Josh,
>>  
>> I will.  I think v7 will be able to handle BGP, OSPF and Filter rules just 
>> fine.  Learning the new configure of v7 should not be a huge issue.  The big 
>> thing I'm worried about is the OSPF interaction between the versions.
>>  
>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>  
>> Myakka Communications
>> www.Myakka.com
>>  
>> --
>>  
>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:52:37 AM, you wrote:
>>  
>>> Let us know how that goes - I was just looking at the 2116 myself.
>>>  
>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>  wrote:
>>>> Mike,
>>>>  
>>>> I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is 
>>>> time to try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see what 
>>>> happens.  
>>>>  
>>>>  
>>>> --
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>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>>  
>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>>  
>>>> --
>>>>  
>>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>>  
>>>>> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036, it would take 5 - 10 minutes for /ip route 
>>>>> print to reflect an upstream change and then another 5 - 10 minutes for 
>>>>> the traffic to actually change directions.
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>>> The Brothers WISP




>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 12:25:14 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>>> I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's been 
>>>>> a while.

>>>>> I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think it's 
>>>>> 10-15 though.
>>>>>  
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> Dennis,

>>>>>> Using mikrotik routers.

>>>>>> Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

>>>>>> One CCR1072 v6.47.9

>>>>>> Yes taking full tables.  

>>>>>> Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it.  
>>>>>> Never established a session.

>>>>>> Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But before 
>>>>>> I go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new 
>>>>>> CCR2116-12G-4S+ running v7.  


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>>>>>> Myakka Communications
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>>>>>> Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB>>>>>>> Really depends on a lot of thing

Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Sterling,
 
Did you have to deal with the BFD / OSPF issues?

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Thursday, April 20, 2023, 11:20:07 AM, you wrote:

> We have migrated from v6.x to v7.7 and v7.8 now. OSPF seems to work fine 
> interacting between the two versions, just have to copy over some settings 
> appropriately is all.
>  
>  
>  
> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
> Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2023 9:03 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>  
> Josh,
>  
> I will.  I think v7 will be able to handle BGP, OSPF and Filter rules just 
> fine.  Learning the new configure of v7 should not be a huge issue.  The big 
> thing I'm worried about is the OSPF interaction between the versions.
>  
> --
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>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>  
> Myakka Communications
> www.Myakka.com
>  
> --
>  
> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:52:37 AM, you wrote:
>  
>> Let us know how that goes - I was just looking at the 2116 myself.
>>  
>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>  wrote:
>>> Mike,
>>>  
>>> I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is time 
>>> to try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see what happens. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> --
>>> Best regards,
>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>>  
>>> Myakka Communications
>>> www.Myakka.com
>>>  
>>> --
>>>  
>>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036, it would take 5 - 10 minutes for /ip route 
>>>> print to reflect an upstream change and then another 5 - 10 minutes for 
>>>> the traffic to actually change directions.
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>>> The Brothers WISP




>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 12:25:14 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question
>>>> I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's been a 
>>>> while.

>>>> I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think it's 
>>>> 10-15 though.
>>>>  
>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> Dennis,

>>>>> Using mikrotik routers.

>>>>> Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

>>>>> One CCR1072 v6.47.9

>>>>> Yes taking full tables.  

>>>>> Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it.  
>>>>> Never established a session.

>>>>> Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But before 
>>>>> I go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new 
>>>>> CCR2116-12G-4S+ running v7.  


>>>>> --
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>>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>>>>> Myakka Communications
>>>>> www.Myakka.com

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>>>>> Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB>>>>>> Really depends on a lot of things.

DB>>>>>> 1.What router are you using?
DB>>>>>> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
DB>>>>>> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
DB>>>>>> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

DB>>>>>> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time is 
kinda long..   


DB>>>>>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
DB>>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 
DB>>>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
DB>>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
DB>>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
DB>>>>>> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net 
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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Josh,
 
I will.  I think v7 will be able to handle BGP, OSPF and Filter rules just 
fine.  Learning the new configure of v7 should not be a huge issue.  The big 
thing I'm worried about is the OSPF interaction between the versions.

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> Let us know how that goes - I was just looking at the 2116 myself.

> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:40 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:

>> Mike,
>>  
>> I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is time 
>> to try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see what happens.  

>>  
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>> Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:

>>> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036, it would take 5 - 10 minutes for /ip route 
>>> print to reflect an upstream change and then another 5 - 10 minutes for the 
>>> traffic to actually change directions.


>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 12:25:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question


>>> I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's been a 
>>> while.

>>> I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think it's 
>>> 10-15 though.

>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>  wrote:

>>>> Dennis,

>>>> Using mikrotik routers.

>>>> Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

>>>> One CCR1072 v6.47.9

>>>> Yes taking full tables.  

>>>> Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it.  
>>>> Never established a session.

>>>> Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But before I 
>>>> go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new 
>>>> CCR2116-12G-4S+ running v7.  


>>>> --
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>>>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>>>> Myakka Communications
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>>>> Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB>>>>> Really depends on a lot of things.

DB>>>>> 1.What router are you using?
DB>>>>> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
DB>>>>> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
DB>>>>> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

DB>>>>> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time is 
kinda long..   


DB>>>>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
DB>>>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 
DB>>>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
DB>>>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
DB>>>>> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
DB>>>>> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net 
DB>>>>> Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com 

DB>>>>> -Original Message-
DB>>>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
Technologies
DB>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM
DB>>>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
DB>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question

DB>>>>> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different 
providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and 
traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.

DB>>>>> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet 
while this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the 
process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will new 
faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and hold 
is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD?  

DB>>>>> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best 
conditions?  

DB>>>>> Thanks,
DB>>>>>  Mark                          mailto:m...@mailmt.com

DB>>>>> Myakka Communications
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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Mike,
 
I think I'll have to upgrade to v7 and a some 2216 units.  Guess it is time to 
try to integrate some v7 units into the v6 network and see what happens.  

 
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Thursday, April 20, 2023, 10:10:32 AM, you wrote:

> Years ago on ROX v6 on a 1036, it would take 5 - 10 minutes for /ip route 
> print to reflect an upstream change and then another 5 - 10 minutes for the 
> traffic to actually change directions.


> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions

> Midwest Internet Exchange

> The Brothers WISP
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 12:25:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question


> I want to say my old x86 would do full tables in 3 minutes...that's been a 
> while.

> I think the CCR1009/1036/1072 is a couple of minutes, I don't think it's 
> 10-15 though.

> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:20 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:

>> Dennis,

>> Using mikrotik routers.

>> Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

>> One CCR1072 v6.47.9

>> Yes taking full tables.  

>> Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it.  
>> Never established a session.

>> Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But before I 
>> go that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new CCR2116-12G-4S+ 
>> running v7.  


>> --
>> Best regards,
>>  Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com

>> Myakka Communications
>> www.Myakka.com

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>> Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB>>> Really depends on a lot of things.

DB>>> 1.What router are you using?
DB>>> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
DB>>> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
DB>>> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

DB>>> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time is 
kinda long..   


DB>>> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
DB>>> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 
DB>>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
DB>>> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
DB>>> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
DB>>> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net 
DB>>> Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com 

DB>>> -Original Message-
DB>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
DB>>> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM
DB>>> To: af@af.afmug.com
DB>>> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question

DB>>> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different 
providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and 
traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.

DB>>> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet while 
this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the 
process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will new 
faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and hold 
is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD?  

DB>>> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best 
conditions?  

DB>>> Thanks,
DB>>>  Mark                          mailto:m...@mailmt.com

DB>>> Myakka Communications
DB>>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Trey,

That is the main question.  If it takes the rest of the Internet 10 mins to 
figure out my BGP dropped, does it matter if I spend $ of some super fast 
router that can build the tables in 30s?

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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 5:55:30 PM, you wrote:

TS> You can prevent this by having a backup default route. The other thing is 
if you are n a physical interface or aggregated interface with a vlan on your 
upstream's router. If its physical it should stop routing traffic when it sees 
the interface down. If not it may keep trying to send traffic down that 
interface. BFD can help with this. It will Also depend on how your provider 
handles the traffic when the  the session with you terminates. If it will 
forward it on to your other providers or not. If your alternate providers are 
connected closely to you it shouldn't take to long, but it can take 10-20min 
for the loss of the peer to propagate across all global routing tables.

TS> On 4/19/23 9:47 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different 
>> providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and 
>> traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.
>>
>> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet while 
>> this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the 
>> process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will new 
>> faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and 
>> hold is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD?
>>
>> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best conditions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>   Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com
>>
>> Myakka Communications
>> www.Myakka.com
>>
>>


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Re: [AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Dennis,

Using mikrotik routers.

Two MaxxWave x86 i5 8 core 10 years old v6.47.9

One CCR1072 v6.47.9

Yes taking full tables.  

Tried BFD  while back.  Didn't seem that my upstream was supporting it.  Never 
established a session.

Thinking I may need to start looking at new hardware and v7.  But before I go 
that route, what should I expect if I do get 3 brand new CCR2116-12G-4S+ 
running v7.  


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Wednesday, April 19, 2023, 11:08:45 AM, you wrote:

DB> Really depends on a lot of things.

DB> 1.What router are you using?
DB> 2. Are you taking full tables from all of your upstreams?
DB> 3. Are you not using BFD ?
DB> 4.  What version of RouterOS are you using?

DB> V7 will be faster, 2216 will be faster than a 1036, your hold time is kinda 
long..   


DB> Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer
DB> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP 
Certified 
DB> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" 
DB> Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services 
DB> Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net 
DB> Need to Automate MikroTik Backups:  https://cloud.linktechs.net 
DB> Create Wireless Coverage's with www.towercoverage.com 

DB> -----Original Message-
DB> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
DB> Sent: Wednesday, April 19, 2023 9:48 AM
DB> To: af@af.afmug.com
DB> Subject: [AFMUG] BGP Question

DB> We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different 
providers on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and 
traffic will start flowing though the surviving circuit.

DB> However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet while 
this is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the 
process?  Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will new 
faster routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and hold 
is at 90s.  Should I investigate BFD?  

DB> How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best 
conditions?  

DB> Thanks,
DB>  Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

DB> Myakka Communications
DB> 
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[AFMUG] BGP Question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

We have two circuits coming into our NOC.  We peer with 3 different providers 
on each circuit.  If a circuit fails, BGP will do it's magic and traffic will 
start flowing though the surviving circuit.

However, we seemed to get about 5 - 10 minutes of unstable Internet while this 
is happening.  Is this normal? If not, what can I do to speed up the process?  
Is it a function of my routers having to rebuild routes?  Will new faster 
routers help?  Is it a function of timers?  Keep-Alive is 30s and hold is at 
90s.  Should I investigate BFD?  

How fast could I expect to get this fail-over to work under best conditions?  

Thanks,
 Mark  mailto:m...@mailmt.com

Myakka Communications
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Re: [AFMUG] I am back

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Jaime,

Welcome Back
 
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Thursday, February 16, 2023, 10:46:00 AM, you wrote:

> Hola my fine feathered friends...
> I have been very busy even though I retired last year.  Health is good, I 
> climbed a 100 ft. tower last week for a SCADA job near Kermit area for 
> Midland Water, plus we landed a lucrative contract with ASUS for Fort Bliss 
> Water.

> What's new with you folks?
> Peace

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Re: [AFMUG] Business password managers

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Matt,

I think bitwarden can be self hosted, if wanted.
 
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Thursday, February 9, 2023, 3:19:30 PM, you wrote:

> I've been happy with 
> https://teampasswordmanager.com/


> Self hosted, web based, browser extension (if that matters to you), 
> user/group permission management, and more.


> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 11:49 AM Mike Hammett  wrote:

>> I can integrate BitWarden with my AD, has groups, a variety of clients, etc.?


>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>> The Brothers WISP
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 1:10:04 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Business password managers


>> Bitwarden.

>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 1:33 PM Mike Hammett  wrote:

>>> It is a bit disheartening, but are there comparable solutions? I haven't 
>>> heard of any.

>>> Also, change your master password and the concerns over leaks goes away. 
>>> We're actually looking to federate it with our Active Directory, so that 
>>> it's even easier to manage.


>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> From: "Daniel Pautz via AF" 
>>> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
>>> Cc: "Daniel Pautz" 
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2023 11:02:01 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Business password managers


>>> Any worries about their endless hackings?  Seems like they are not giving 
>>> full disclosure anymore and a few of the last hacks were pretty bad 
>>> sounding.   We have been using lastpass forever now,  but its getting a big 
>>> sad that a company that should be securing your PW’s keeps getting nasty 
>>> hacks. 
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2023 8:48 AM
>>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Business password managers
>>>  
>>> We use LastPass Enterprise. It integrates with our Active Directory for 
>>> provisioning of users and group assignment. I have different groups and 
>>> folders for different roles in the company. Each user can be in multiple 
>>> groups.
>>>  
>>> It's mostly headache-free (nothing in IT is totally headache-free).
>>> -
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>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

>>> Midwest Internet Exchange

>>> The Brothers WISP
>>> From: "Nate Burke" 
>>> To: "Animal Farm" 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2023 4:38:52 PM
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Business password managers

>>> I'm bringing on some more employees, so some sort of password manager 
>>> would be nice to have, other than my personal one, and all the passwords 
>>> I keep up in the old noggin.  This might be like opening up a apple/PC 
>>> debate, but just curious what others are using.

>>> I've looked at Dashlane, 1password, and bitwarden.  And there's always 
>>> Keepass, but I think that requires access to the central password file 
>>> at all times, might be hard to share between users.

>>> It would be nice to be able to only share certain passwords with certain 
>>> users.  Like Tech 1 can have Radios and Mikrotiks, but not VMWare.   
>>> Tech2 has Mikrotik and Vmware, but not radios.

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Re: [AFMUG] Neg 48V Power Supply

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Sterling,

Check out duracomm.com.  I have 3 or 4 of their rackmount AC to 48vdc units.  
If you need an exact model number let me know and I'll dig one up.
  
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Tuesday, February 7, 2023, 9:26:52 PM, you wrote:

SJ> I've got a few projects where I just need a simple telco -48v power supply 
from AC plug.

SJ> I've got a lot of the "normal" PS units lying around.

SJ> But what does it take to power a -48v device?

SJ> Is it something I can/should just rig from a standard AC to DC 48v PS?

SJ> Or is there something out there I should purchase instead that is fairly 
cheap?

SJ> I'm using ITC Rectifiers for my -48v plant in several areas, I just haven't 
built out the DC plant in all areas but have one or two units that need it 
already on site.


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Re: [AFMUG] AC Power Plant

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

TJ,

That looks interesting.  Do you have someone at CE+T or a dealer you work with?
 
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Monday, January 23, 2023, 10:45:51 PM, you wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:57 AM Paul Dowling  
> wrote:

>> I have the Newmar in my house and it works fine. But for the price, you are 
>> close to an ICT rectifier and their
>> sine wave inverters. (300W and 1500W) They give you the ability to remote 
>> power cycle the load as well.

>> Paul
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>> (410) 902-0070 x115


>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 1:01 PM castarritt  wrote:

>>> Alpha FXM-2000 was our go-to solution, but they are discontinued now.  We 
>>> have one Newmar AC-UPS-48-2000 in the field and it has been fine so far.  
>>> I've never looked for anything over 2000 watts on an AC UPS; DC seems like 
>>> a far better option for that much power.

>>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 11:16 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies 
>>>  wrote:

>>>> I have a nice DC power plant running my -48v stuff has about 140 ah worth 
>>>> of battery on it.  Runs well has remote monitoring with e-mail alerts, web 
>>>> gui, SNMP, etc.

>>>> I'm looking for something similar for my AC stuff.  Total load is now 
>>>> about 1500 Watts.  Looking for something that can handle about 3000 Watts 
>>>> to let us grow.  

>>>> Want it to have remote monitoring.  I'll start with about 100ah worth of 
>>>> battery, but may need to add to that as we add more equipment.  

>>>> Any ideas?

>>>> For what it is worth I do have some nice cyberpower battery units with the 
>>>> external battery plug.  Has anyone tried to use larger sealed batteries 
>>>> with those units?  Just wondering is the have any type of battery temp 
>>>> monitoring on them.  


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[AFMUG] AC Power Plant

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

I have a nice DC power plant running my -48v stuff has about 140 ah worth of 
battery on it.  Runs well has remote monitoring with e-mail alerts, web gui, 
SNMP, etc.

I'm looking for something similar for my AC stuff.  Total load is now about 
1500 Watts.  Looking for something that can handle about 3000 Watts to let us 
grow.  

Want it to have remote monitoring.  I'll start with about 100ah worth of 
battery, but may need to add to that as we add more equipment.  

Any ideas?

For what it is worth I do have some nice cyberpower battery units with the 
external battery plug.  Has anyone tried to use larger sealed batteries with 
those units?  Just wondering is the have any type of battery temp monitoring on 
them.  


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Re: [AFMUG] YouTube

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Chuck,

Tracked it down to the IX.  Got the IX guys on the phone.  Did a few packet 
captures to figure out exact IPs and got the BGP paths.  Once I got that to the 
IX guys they figured out a new comer to the IX had a bad BGP configuration.  
They took them off the IX and everything works normally.


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CMvA> I am trying to upload a video and it is dreadfully slow.  Never seen it 
this slow before.  5mbps and we have 10G on this computer.

CMvA> -Original Message- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
CMvA> Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 2:33 PM
CMvA> To: af@af.afmug.com
CMvA> Subject: [AFMUG] YouTube

CMvA> Anyone else seeing any YouTube issues.  YouTube TV see to be slow to load 
a channel, once channel is loaded everything is fine.  YouTube on computer 
seems hang at ad loading, but then loads fine and plays normally.


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Re: [AFMUG] YouTube

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Josh,

We have isolated this to one of our peering partners.  If I shut down that 
partner, everything is back to normal.  Luckily we have another peering point 
and extra bandwidth, so shutting it down is not an issue.
 
I'm currently troubleshooting with the NOC to see if we can drill the issue 
down to a router or provider.
 
 
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> What are you using for DNS?

> Seems just fine on my standard account that has ads and my personal account 
> with premium.

> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 4:35 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:

>> Anyone else seeing any YouTube issues.  YouTube TV see to be slow to load a 
>> channel, once channel is loaded everything is fine.  YouTube on computer 
>> seems hang at ad loading, but then loads fine and plays normally.


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channel, once channel is loaded everything is fine.  YouTube on computer seems 
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Re: [AFMUG] VMware question

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Steven,

I had this issue years and years ago with Vmware. I really hate these companies 
that make licenses over complicated.  The essentials if fine for now.  I don't 
think I'll need more than 3 servers.  The extra server I was adding, is just a 
small network appliance running a mikrotik CHR and a speedtest server.  Not a 
mission critical system, so no big deal if it is not linked into vCenter. Found 
a stand alone license for it.     
 
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> Always funny seeing others dealing with Vmware with buyers remorse.  I was in 
> your spot.  I HATE Vmware on their business and licensing side.  It is why I 
> dumped them.  They made things so complicated and absurd they screwed 
> themselves out of the continuation of our support and service contract.  
> Nothing but headaches, overpayment and lack of flexibility.  They screw the 
> little guys full bore.  

> I went through this - You need to swap to Vmware "standard" (at minimum) 
> licenses and ante up much more to separate into vcenter and individual 
> licenses and add them as you add servers.  Per processor etc price will go 
> up. 

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:41 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
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>> I bought vSphere 7 essentials a few months ago.  Have it all setup.  Have 3 
>> host licensed.

>> I just spun up a 4th host.  I can not figure out how to get a license for a 
>> single host to add to vCenter.  All I keep finding is the bundles.   




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Re: [AFMUG] Old Canopy FW upgrade

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Bill,

Got it.  Gave up on trying to do an update directly on the unit.  Just set th 
AP to auto-update and it took care of it for me.

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BP> IIRC, CNUT not only uses the SNMP community string, but it also needs to 
login to the SM. Make sure you have the username/password set for CLI access.


BP> bp
BP> 

BP> On 10/17/2022 11:09 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:
>> I still have a couple of customers on Canopy FSK900.  Had to replace a radio 
>> due to storm damage.  Radio is at FW 7.2.9.  I'm trying to upgrade to 10.5.  
>> Dusted off all my CNUT stuff.  Have everything loaded and discovered, but 
>> keep getting "No SNMP response" from SM.  I can log into SM and see the SNMP 
>> community and it matches the CNUT settings.  Tried v1 and v2c with no luck.  
>> Any ideas?
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I still have a couple of customers on Canopy FSK900.  Had to replace a radio 
due to storm damage.  Radio is at FW 7.2.9.  I'm trying to upgrade to 10.5.  
Dusted off all my CNUT stuff.  Have everything loaded and discovered, but keep 
getting "No SNMP response" from SM.  I can log into SM and see the SNMP 
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Re: [AFMUG] VMware question

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Josh,

That makes sense now.  Forgot about that limitation.  Thank you.
 
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> Essentials *only* provides licensing for 3 hosts.  It's a limitation of 
> "essentials."  -- unless that changed with v7.  

If you need >>3 hosts, you can't use Essentials.

> On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 12:41 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies  
> wrote:

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>> host licensed.

>> I just spun up a 4th host.  I can not figure out how to get a license for a 
>> single host to add to vCenter.  All I keep finding is the bundles.   




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I bought vSphere 7 essentials a few months ago.  Have it all setup.  Have 3 
host licensed.

I just spun up a 4th host.  I can not figure out how to get a license for a 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT pronouns

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Chuck,

So if someone that wants to be called 'They' is going to the store.  Do 'They' 
say

"I'm going to the store." or "We're going to the store" 

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CMvA> Got my first email where the sender listed their pronouns.
CMvA> It was from the clerk of the Utah court of appeals.
CMvA> She/Her/Hers

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Re: [AFMUG] Hurricane Ian

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Hurricane Ian


Josh,

Thought we were out of the woods,but looks like the generator on our main hut took some storm damage. It worked thought out the whole storm, but crapped out next morning.  We've been dealing with it all day.  Have system patched together and scaled down, so things are working.  Hopefully will have the part we need tomorrow.

All in all we did well.  We were in the worst possible track.  20" of rain in 6 hours. Sustained winds of 70+ with gust over 100 MPH for 6 hours straight.  It was the craziest thing I've ever been through.  Network did great the whole storm though.  Didn't skip a beat.

Personally, very lucky. Minimum damage. My generator is running fine.  Enough propane for another 5-6 days.  May take them that long to get our power back.

 
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You good Mark???  Looks like it's about over for you.

On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 3:00 PM Richard Harnish <rharn...@team.nxlink.com> wrote:




I hope you bring good news to Vegas!
 
Respectfully,
 
Rick Harnish
Director of Development

855.NXT.LINK (855.698.5465) | M 260.307.4000
 
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hurricane Ian
 
Rick:

Getting a bit tropical.  Luckily we are inland and don't have to worry about storm surge or flooding.  Winds are going to be hit or missing.  Depends on how it drifts as it comes by us and what side we end up on.  Worst case will see some 100+ mph winds, best case they stay about 70mph.

At this point I'm still planning on being in Vegas unless there is massive infrastructure damage in our area.


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Mark, 

I hope you are doing ok.  Myakka City appears to be right in the path of the eye in a few hours!  I’m thankful my mother is no longer in Venice.

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
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Re: [AFMUG] Hurricane Ian

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Hurricane Ian


Rick:

Getting a bit tropical.  Luckily we are inland and don't have to worry about storm surge or flooding.  Winds are going to be hit or missing.  Depends on how it drifts as it comes by us and what side we end up on.  Worst case will see some 100+ mph winds, best case they stay about 70mph.

At this point I'm still planning on being in Vegas unless there is massive infrastructure damage in our area.


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Mark, 
 
I hope you are doing ok.  Myakka City appears to be right in the path of the eye in a few hours!  I’m thankful my mother is no longer in Venice.
 
Respectfully,
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Fishing over Drop Ceiling

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Nate,

Sounds like a good excuse to buy a crossbow.

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Monday, September 19, 2022, 10:04:33 AM, you wrote:

NB> I need to go about 30' across a drop ceiling.  I do not want to remove
NB> any tiles in the middle.  If I put a tennis ball on the end of my screw
NB> together fiberglass rods will that be enough to bounce over the ceiling
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Re: [AFMUG] TR-069

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069


Steven,

I'm using FinePoint.  Working great for us.
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Anyone use it?  We used it for our fiber deployment but most of it is already managed.  But we will be adding a new line of Docsys gateways out there we want to control and will not integrate with Calix's servers.  They won't support them either as it is only in their best interests to support their own devices..  There are a couple open sourced ACS servers out there but nothing that seems user friendly enough for our staff to use. 

Anyone recommend any software, that is reasonable and easy to use? Online services etc?

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Re: [AFMUG] Cabinet Color

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Cabinet Color


Jason,

Check this out

https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2021/Q2/the-whitest-paint-is-here-and-its-the-coolest.-literally..html

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I've got a couple air-conditioned DDB cabinets that are raw aluminum.  Would it be worthwhile to paint these white before installing them?  I know white reflects more heat, just not sure it is worth the trouble.





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[AFMUG] tekniam

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

AnimalFarm,

Anyone ever deal with these guys?

https://www.tekniam.com/
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Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka


Mark,

DZSI is the new company name.  Zhone did a merger a few years back.  We haven't had any issues.  There was a bit of a supply chain issue, but nothing major.  We never had to stop installing customers.

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Saturday, July 16, 2022, 12:39:59 PM, you wrote:





Mark - how are things working out with the GPON vendor?   Can’t say that is one I have heard of (DZSI).    I’m thinking it might be time to make (another) vendor change.    

Mark


Mark Radabaugh
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Re: [AFMUG] Myakka 
Josh,

I don’t think that was us.  I really haven't done anything I would say was crazy expensive.  Yes, 10 years ago when we put this in with the help of government money, it was definitely more expensive than than wireless.  However, I haven't had to do any fork lift upgrades in 10 years.  I'm using the same original equipment at the head end.  We still get some lightning damage but it is a fraction of what we experienced with the wireless.  Not having to deal with roofs in the Florida summer is a bonus also.

We are still paying off the loan portion of the grant/loan.  We believe doing that program 10 years ago was the best business move we made for us and the community.  


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I could have sworn you told us you did some sort of crazy expensive run for some farmer that could have been done with PTP600 for a fraction of the cost like 10 years ago...paid for by the government...

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:




Well done.  I am trying to do the same.  Just no guvmnt dollars yet.  Jealous.  

From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 11:53 AM
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Subject: [AFMUG] Myakka

Mark gets some press! 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dzs-myakka-communications-leverage-government-12271.html

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Myakka


Josh,

I don’t think that was us.  I really haven't done anything I would say was crazy expensive.  Yes, 10 years ago when we put this in with the help of government money, it was definitely more expensive than than wireless.  However, I haven't had to do any fork lift upgrades in 10 years.  I'm using the same original equipment at the head end.  We still get some lightning damage but it is a fraction of what we experienced with the wireless.  Not having to deal with roofs in the Florida summer is a bonus also.

We are still paying off the loan portion of the grant/loan.  We believe doing that program 10 years ago was the best business move we made for us and the community.  


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I could have sworn you told us you did some sort of crazy expensive run for some farmer that could have been done with PTP600 for a fraction of the cost like 10 years ago...paid for by the government...

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




Well done.  I am trying to do the same.  Just no guvmnt dollars yet.  Jealous.  
 
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
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Subject: [AFMUG] Myakka
 
Mark gets some press! 
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dzs-myakka-communications-leverage-government-12271.html

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Re: [AFMUG] Myakka

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Chuck,

Thanks Chuck.  You played a big roll in this about 12 years ago.  Gave me access to your guys.  They showed me that Fiber was a feasible option for a small company.

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Well done.  I am trying to do the same.  Just no guvmnt dollars yet.  Jealous.  
 
From: Jeff Broadwick - Lists
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Subject: [AFMUG] Myakka
 
Mark gets some press! 
 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dzs-myakka-communications-leverage-government-12271.html

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Re: [AFMUG] VMWare

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] VMWare


Dustin,

I'll have to setup a Hyper-V for testing.  The reason I'm leading towards VMWare is I have dabbled a bit with it.  My son is also fairly proficient in it.

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Tuesday, July 12, 2022, 5:22:59 PM, you wrote:










Hey Mark, 

I know this is an emotional issue for most, Mac vs PC, Windows vs Linux, Hatfield vs Mccoy.  that being said...  

Few things! 



If you run VMWARE you still need to buy Windows Licenses...   
I prefer one throat to choke.  If you have a Windows VM running on a Microsoft Hyper-V environment and something goes wrong, I can very easily get support from Microsoft.  If I have a Windows VM running on VMWARE I'm caught in the middle of pointing fingers.  Now these days both have excellent compatibility and even ubuntu support Hyper-V very well so there is little difference in performance / functionality. 
Being a Windows Guy, I think you'll find Hyper-V easier to support.  


All of this is my humble opinion.  You really can't go wrong but I think cost wise you will be ahead with Hyper-V. 

Sincerely,

Dustin 


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(NEW ADDRESS)
Rapid Systems Corporation 
1801 N Himes Ave
Tampa, FL 33607
Ph: 813-232-4887

http://www.rapidsys.com
“Building Better Infrastructure”  
 

From: AF  on behalf of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:08:25 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VMWare 
 
Dustin,

What is your thoughts on Hyper-V vs VMWare.  To be honest, I'm more comfortable in a windows environment.  Almost all my VMs are windows OSs at the moment.  I do have a couple of Ubuntu servers running.  Be interested in why you went Hyper-V over VMWare?  I think VMWare has the larger market share.



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Hey Mark,

I know we do that with native Hyper-V and it always seem strange to me that if you are running Microsoft VM's you have to purchase Microsoft Datacenter licenses and VMWARE, but I understand some applications are only supported under VMWARE.   That being said we use altaro for unattended backups (Microsoft and Linux) and they have a VMWARE version you might want to check out.  

Good Luck,

Dustin 


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(NEW ADDRESS)
Rapid Systems Corporation 
1801 N Himes Ave
Tampa, FL 33607
Ph: 813-232-4887

http://www.rapidsys.com
“Building Better Infrastructure”  


From: AF  on behalf of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:41:53 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] VMWare 

We  had  a  slight  electric  issue  yesterday.  Messed up some of our
VM  servers.   I  got things rigged back together, but I need to build a more
robust VM system.

I'm  look  to  move  into  the  VMWare  world.  I think Vmware Vsphere
Essentials Plus is the route I need to go.  I may be able to get away
with just Essentials, but the extra tools may help.

Any  thoughts  on  setup.  Currently we run RAID10 on each VM Host and
backup to a NAS.  I'm thinking I'll keep that setup for the VMWare.

If  I  get Essentials Plus will I be able to to HOT backups of running
VMs or is that a third party thing?


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Re: [AFMUG] VMWare

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] VMWare


Dustin,

What is your thoughts on Hyper-V vs VMWare.  To be honest, I'm more comfortable in a windows environment.  Almost all my VMs are windows OSs at the moment.  I do have a couple of Ubuntu servers running.  Be interested in why you went Hyper-V over VMWare?  I think VMWare has the larger market share.



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Tuesday, July 12, 2022, 2:53:39 PM, you wrote:










Hey Mark,

I know we do that with native Hyper-V and it always seem strange to me that if you are running Microsoft VM's you have to purchase Microsoft Datacenter licenses and VMWARE, but I understand some applications are only supported under VMWARE.   That being said we use altaro for unattended backups (Microsoft and Linux) and they have a VMWARE version you might want to check out.  

Good Luck,

Dustin 


Dustin Jurman
CEO
(NEW ADDRESS)
Rapid Systems Corporation 
1801 N Himes Ave
Tampa, FL 33607
Ph: 813-232-4887

http://www.rapidsys.com
“Building Better Infrastructure”  
 

From: AF  on behalf of Mark - Myakka Technologies 
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:41:53 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] VMWare 
 
We  had  a  slight  electric  issue  yesterday.  Messed up some of our
VM  servers.   I  got things rigged back together, but I need to build a more
robust VM system.

I'm  look  to  move  into  the  VMWare  world.  I think Vmware Vsphere
Essentials Plus is the route I need to go.  I may be able to get away
with just Essentials, but the extra tools may help.

Any  thoughts  on  setup.  Currently we run RAID10 on each VM Host and
backup to a NAS.  I'm thinking I'll keep that setup for the VMWare.

If  I  get Essentials Plus will I be able to to HOT backups of running
VMs or is that a third party thing?


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[AFMUG] VMWare

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

We  had  a  slight  electric  issue  yesterday.  Messed up some of our
VM  servers.   I  got things rigged back together, but I need to build a more
robust VM system.

I'm  look  to  move  into  the  VMWare  world.  I think Vmware Vsphere
Essentials Plus is the route I need to go.  I may be able to get away
with just Essentials, but the extra tools may help.

Any  thoughts  on  setup.  Currently we run RAID10 on each VM Host and
backup to a NAS.  I'm thinking I'll keep that setup for the VMWare.

If  I  get Essentials Plus will I be able to to HOT backups of running
VMs or is that a third party thing?


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Re: [AFMUG] Splice Documentation

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Splice Documentation


Jason,

I've been using FiberSmith by Donny Smith.  It is based on 3GIS.  Does mapping, splicing, etc.  Also produces some nice splice diagrams per splice case.


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Wednesday, July 6, 2022, 3:18:24 PM, you wrote:





Revisiting this.

I've been trying to find something besides spreadsheets to document splices / splice cases, but cannot find anything that isn't an all-inclusive package with a matching monthly fee.  Does anyone know of anything out there that works for this?  I've been trying to use spreadsheets, but find them extraordinarily cumbersome.  I'm starting to think some graphing paper and a pencil might be the only option.

I don't really need mapping, but something that involves mapping/GIS/splice documentation may be useful as well.

Thanks.





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[AFMUG] LMR lightning suppressor

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

I finally received my new bobcat miner.  Going to hook it up to an old
900  omni  I  have on a tower.  Its been a while since I did anything
with wireless.  Is the anything new for lightning protection or should
I  just stick with the old standard lightning barrel connectors I used
10 years ago?


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Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...


Steve,

Some are better than others, but they all are fun to watch.

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Wednesday, June 8, 2022, 12:10:59 AM, you wrote:





This show is great

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 3:22 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:




that just popped up yesterday in my list

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 1:23 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




Steve,

You should watch Love, Death and Robots S03E01 on netflix

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Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 11:35:35 AM, you wrote:





have you seen the lifelike sex robots? robots are an absolute great idea. Imagine a woman that does what shes told, doesnt talk back and is always in the mood. I have an electric dishwasher and can buy a roomba, so theres really no reason to keep wasting money on monthly bleeders

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 10:28 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists <jeffl...@att.net> wrote:




Is it just me, or does anyone else think that lethal robots are a really bad idea?

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com





On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:







Maybe Tesla's new Optimus robot can help in future active shooter situations. Send it in instead of scared humans and let it disable the bad guy.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:40 AM Andy Trimmell <atrimm...@precisionds.com> wrote:




I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some ways to possibly resolve things.  Ideas are great. Pointing fingers is divisive. 

From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it happen several times.  Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding.
On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:




There has to be a decision made on what we want from police. 
You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other ethnicity.
You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice
you cant demand police protect schools at all times while simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers.
You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while you also want them shooting perps in the face.
You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.

Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for doing their job because the media said so.

Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than police, theyre all people

Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the same as they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a line in which the insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the risk. When monday morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday morning reality, the demands will seem much less realistic


I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her up. May only the strongest and fastest survive

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt <castarr...@gmail.com> wrote:




We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job anymore.  We need terminator robots.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:




I have been shot at, but never been in combat.  I don’t carry a weapon because I don’t want that option.  That option is one of the initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation.  
I prefer a linear equation.  

If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter.  Let the cops do that.  

From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be more effective.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:




There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing.   That's not necessarily a solution either.
On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:




Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police departments so that they can have a regular presence at schools.

On 

Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...


Steve,

You should watch Love, Death and Robots S03E01 on netflix

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Tuesday, June 7, 2022, 11:35:35 AM, you wrote:





have you seen the lifelike sex robots? robots are an absolute great idea. Imagine a woman that does what shes told, doesnt talk back and is always in the mood. I have an electric dishwasher and can buy a roomba, so theres really no reason to keep wasting money on monthly bleeders

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 10:28 AM Jeff Broadwick - Lists  wrote:




Is it just me, or does anyone else think that lethal robots are a really bad idea?

Jeff Broadwick
CTIconnect
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@cticonnect.com





On Jun 7, 2022, at 11:08 AM, Darin Steffl  wrote:








Maybe Tesla's new Optimus robot can help in future active shooter situations. Send it in instead of scared humans and let it disable the bad guy.

On Tue, Jun 7, 2022, 9:40 AM Andy Trimmell  wrote:




I liked when the conversation started with people adding in some ways to possibly resolve things.  Ideas are great. Pointing fingers is divisive. 
 
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jan-GAMs
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2022 10:28 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
 
After republicans take office the police, firefighters, libraries and schools get defunded/reduced, I'm on a local fireboard, experinced it happen several times.  Don't complain to me about who's doing the defunding.
On 6/6/22 11:05, Steve Jones wrote:




There has to be a decision made on what we want from police. 
You cant demand they shoot white shooters, but gently caress any other ethnicity.
You cant demand police be demilitarized at the same time you demand they be ready to engage a heavily armed operator at a split second notice
you cant demand police protect schools at all times while simultaneously eliminating 50 percent of the school resource officers.
You cant demand the school resource officers be a soft presence while you also want them shooting perps in the face.
You cant do any of this at all while also defunding the police.
 
Military is ready because theyre always ready, police are never ready because theyre always in sensitivty classes, or being arrested for doing their job because the media said so.
 
Firefightrs are no more capable of handling these situations than police, theyre all people
 
Theres also insurability. Scene safety if paramount in all Emergency services. Firefighters dont run into active petrochemical fires the same as they would run into a residential structure fire. There is a line in which the insurance companies (and taxpayers) will not tolerate the risk. When monday morning quarterbacking gives way to tuesday morning reality, the demands will seem much less realistic
 
 
I say we just burn it all. pick any longitudinal point and light her up. May only the strongest and fastest survive
 
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:51 PM castarritt  wrote:




We've neutered the police so effectively they can't do the job anymore.  We need terminator robots.
 
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:49 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




I have been shot at, but never been in combat.  I don’t carry a weapon because I don’t want that option.  That option is one of the initial starting conditions of a higher order ordinary differential equation.  
I prefer a linear equation.  
 
If a firefighter is armored such that they can probably survive a gunshot, that would steer their thinking toward rescue over taking out the shooter.  Let the cops do that.  
 
From: Jason McKemie 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 11:09 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - here I go again...
 
True, if they're properly trained and doing their job it would be more effective.
 
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 12:05 PM Robert  wrote:




There was also the shooting down in the south, where they had a school "police" officer who stood back and did nothing.   That's not necessarily a solution either.
On 6/6/22 9:58 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:




Seems like we should just be giving additional funding to police departments so that they can have a regular presence at schools.
 
On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 11:08 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




I may regret posting this but I had a thought.
 
How about we let the fire department handle active shooters at schools.  
They know how to get there fast.  They are ready to go at an instants notice.  
They know how to breach any building and rescue survivors.
They have heavy protective gear on, just add a layer of kevlar.  
Or give them extra/different gear they can don on the way to the incident.  
They sure as hell don’t stand around outside discussing jurisdiction and s

Re: [AFMUG] DNS Sanity Check

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Nate,

>From my local server

web.smgus.com
Server:  UnKnown
Address:  172.24.0.51

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:customers.esp1.co
Addresses:  104.18.28.128
  104.18.29.128
Aliases:  web.smgus.com
  customers.listrak.com
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NB> I need a sanity check.  Trying to resolve the domain web.smgus.com (It's
NB> a promo for a free pizza)

NB> Querying 8.8.8.8, 1.1.1.1 or any 'big' DNS severs returns

 >> web.smgus.com
NB> Server:  dns.google
NB> Address:  8.8.8.8

NB> Non-authoritative answer:
NB> Name:customers.esp1.co
NB> Addresses:  104.18.28.128
NB>104.18.29.128
NB> Aliases:  web.smgus.com
NB>customers.listrak.com

NB> But when I hit it from my local DNS Server, it can't find it.

 >> web.smgus.com
NB> Server:  resolver1.blastcomm.com
NB> Address:  216.152.49.1

NB> *** resolver1.blastcomm.com can't find web.smgus.com: Non-existent domain


NB> And if I step through the DNS Steps on my desktop, it won't lookup either.

NB> SMGUS.com
NB> ns10.servicemanagement.com 68.177.188.251
NB> ns11.servicemanagement.com 66.22.184.251

 >> server 66.22.184.251
NB> Default Server:  ns11.servicemanagement.com
NB> Address:  66.22.184.251

 >> web.smgus.com
NB> Server:  ns11.servicemanagement.com
NB> Address:  66.22.184.251

NB> *** ns11.servicemanagement.com can't find web.smgus.com: Non-existent domain
 >>


NB> Am I missing something?


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Re: [AFMUG] Web page development

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Web page development


Cameron,

I would love to see it also.




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Thursday, March 24, 2022, 1:37:36 PM, you wrote:





I have a fully responsive template I've built for a couple of wisps that can be styled to your liking. I would be happy to show it to you. It is fairly simple but includes the basics like a package list, contact, and can include some qualification features like looking up your service addresses and such when they make an inquiry for their address to validate service. I might have to push it up to a web server to show but let me know if you'd like to see it. 



On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 12:30 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




Are they service bureau companies or is this software?
 
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 11:27 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Web page development
 
Fiverr or upwork
 
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022, 10:09 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




It’s for my ISP.  Needs to look snazzy.  
 
From: Steve Jones
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2022 10:19 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Web page development
 
i just did google dns and google sites for my garbage flat page. Square probably have wysiwyg e-commerce stuff thats probably pretty user friendly. Also depends on your market, for MT stuff, I just want picture, description, price, whistlebops and nifty poppers are for kids with autism. Toilet friendly viewing its paramount. I cant stand sitting on the shitter looking for products and popup ads wont move out of the way, descriptions dont render correctly, pricing isnt there, images are not the actual product. its really bad for bowels.
 
On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 11:05 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




Once again, I find myself needing a nice webpage done.  I have used companies from india a couple of times with mixed results. 
I have tried local folks that were expensive and slow and not terribly creative.  
I do them myself if they are not too complex but I am horrible at both design and marketing.
 
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Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] POTS line over IP network?


Craig,

I did this with a pair of grandstream devices years ago.  If no one else chimes in with a good idea, yet me know and I'll dig up my notes.

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Thursday, March 3, 2022, 12:47:45 PM, you wrote:





Is anyone aware of a device that will take a POTS line from the telco, convert it to IP, and then somewhere on the network convert it back into a normal analog POTs line to plug into an analog handset?

Basically, I have a customer who owns a gift shop. They have a restaurant in a separate building behind the gift shop. Currently, they have a POTS line that is strung from the demarc, and across the ceiling of the gift shop. At the rear, it exits the gift shop and makes its way into the restaurant where it eventually plugs into a phone. They want to get rid of the wire that runs across the ceiling because it looks crazy stupid. Unfortunately, there's a reason the wire was originally run that way--there isn't really another way to get it to the restaurant without tearing a bunch of stuff apart (lack of attic and crawlspace). However, I do have an ethernet network in place between the two buildings, and can relatively easily get a wire from the demarc to a network switch.

So, what I'm envisioning is a pair of boxes. One of the boxes plugs into Ethernet has an FXS port to plug in the POTS line. The other box, also plugs into Ethernet and has an FXO port to plug in the phone. They see each other over the IP network, and magically transport the POTS line to where it needs to be.

Do such devices exist?

Craig






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Re: [AFMUG] Zhone VOIP Features

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Zhone VOIP Features


Mike,

We never got into the ZMS package.  I just wrote a bunch of scripts to interface with the Cage and ONT's directly.  Those scripts were then integrated into Platypus.  We have tried over the years to make Plat the central controller for everything.


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Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 11:30:49 AM, you wrote:






*nods* we try to avoid doing any configuration on the ONT, other than SSID and key. That way we can reset the unit to default and the chassis just sends down whatever it is supposed to have.

I've attached screenshots of the ONT and of ZMS.


Here's the output of that configuration section on the chassis:
Dekalb_1> cpe voip features show all

cpe-voip-features 1       Name: Default_Cpe_Voip_Features       Type: reordertone
hotLine: disabled
Conference Option: local
Conference Uri:

  Caller ID        Call Waiting     Call Progress or        Call Presentation
   Features          Features       Transfer Features            Features
==      ==   =
calling-number   call-waiting       3-way                msg-wait-splash-ring
calling-name     cid-announcement   call-transfer        msg-wait-special-dial-tone
cid-number                          call-hold            msg-wait-visual
cid-name                            call-park            call-fwd
anonym-block                        do-not-disturb
                                    flash-on-emergency
                                    emergency-hold
                                    6-way


cpe-voip-features 2       Name: DynOmciCpeVoipFeatures          Type: reordertone
hotLine: disabled
Conference Option: local
Conference Uri:

  Caller ID        Call Waiting     Call Progress or        Call Presentation
   Features          Features       Transfer Features            Features
==      ==   =
none             none               none                 none


cpe-voip-features 3       Name: VOIP-SIP                        Type: reordertone
hotLine: disabled
Conference Option: local
Conference Uri:

  Caller ID        Call Waiting     Call Progress or        Call Presentation
   Features          Features       Transfer Features            Features
==      ==   =
calling-number                                           msg-wait-splash-ring
calling-name                                             msg-wait-special-dial-tone
cid-blocking                                             msg-wait-visual
cid-number                                               call-fwd
cid-name
anonym-block

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From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2022 10:26:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Zhone VOIP Features

Re: [AFMUG] Zhone VOIP Features Mike,

I'm a bit behind on FW, so I don't even see CID-announcement.  Here are some screen shots of one of my ONT's. We are using a 3rd party VoIP company, so I just connected to their server. 

Have you tried clicking on the yellow question mark for help screen? 

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Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 9:47:04 AM, you wrote:





Are there any Zhone operators on this list?

Using VoIP?

What are you enabling (or disabling) in your VOIP Features? Some are self explanatory, but some aren't. For instance, my SEs (at VAR and Zhone) didn't know what CID-announcement does.Some make sense, but don't seem applicable to standard POTS service. For instance, call hold, call park, DND, etc. don't seem very relevant.


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Re: [AFMUG] Zhone VOIP Features

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Zhone VOIP Features


Mike,

I'm a bit behind on FW, so I don't even see CID-announcement.  Here are some screen shots of one of my ONT's. We are using a 3rd party VoIP company, so I just connected to their server. 

Have you tried clicking on the yellow question mark for help screen? 

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Wednesday, February 23, 2022, 9:47:04 AM, you wrote:





Are there any Zhone operators on this list?

Using VoIP?

What are you enabling (or disabling) in your VOIP Features? Some are self explanatory, but some aren't. For instance, my SEs (at VAR and Zhone) didn't know what CID-announcement does.Some make sense, but don't seem applicable to standard POTS service. For instance, call hold, call park, DND, etc. don't seem very relevant.


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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Passenger van Rentals

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Nate,

Maybe  it is time for the old fashion face to face.  Enterprise usually
has many local off airport locations.  Find one close to you and go in
and  talk the the manager in person.  May get better result talking to
a local person.


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Wednesday, February 16, 2022, 3:57:16 PM, you wrote:

NB> I'm looking to rent a couple passenger vans to take the church kids on a
NB> trip this summer.  Enterprise has no Vans, since they have a contract 
NB> with Fedex/Amazon who's depleted their van fleet, and they can't get new
NB> vehicles like everyone else.  They claim to not even have mini-vans 
NB> available for rental right now.  I supposedly have a reservation for 1
NB> 15 passenger Van, but we've been burned by Enterprise in past years when
NB> we go to pick it up, they'll not actually have a van and try to 
NB> substitute 2 5 passenger SUV's instead.

NB> Hertz want's you to use their online booking site, which is setup for 
NB> single vehicle rentals, not multiples, and they only have Minivans.  
NB> Using the website Chat seems like they just look at the same webpage you
NB> do.

NB> Am I missing any obvious places for commercial passenger van rental?  
NB> There was a movie shoot around here over the summer, they probably 
NB> brought in 50 or 60 12 passenger vans to haul people from parking to the
NB> set, but no rental companies label them anymore to see where they were
NB> from.


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Re: [AFMUG] GIS

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] GIS


Chuck,

May want to look at the fibersmith product.  May not be the cheapest option, but works great for us.  They have been more than helpful whenever we had any questions.

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Monday, February 7, 2022, 10:50:09 PM, you wrote:





I need more dolt friendly than powerful.  
 
 
 
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 6:34 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIS
 
I second Brian's recommendations on QGIS and Manifold. If you want really powerful GIS functions, Manifold is the best system, hands down. I would never use Arc or MapInfo again after using manifold and I used to be a MapInfo trainer. Both QGIS and Manifold can link to external SQL DBs so you could probably build layers of customer point data with pop-up labels that contain customer info or create thematic maps based on certain values, etc, if you are looking for quick visuals. 
 
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 6:31 PM Steve Jones  wrote:




i use qgis and love it, its dolt friendly and will even render. albeit slowly on my laptop 
 
 
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 5:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




Are there samples/examples that will help me not have to learn too much?  Like a map with data that I can splice in my map and data.  I am a lazy man.  
 
From: Forrest Christian (List Account)
Sent: Monday, February 7, 2022 4:54 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] GIS
 
I use qgis (open source).  A bit of a learning curve but it's amazingly functional.  
 
There is also manifold which is dirt cheap as far as GIS is concerned.
 
On Mon, Feb 7, 2022, 4:44 PM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




Anyone here use GIS?  Thinking of a blend of a map and customer info.  Too cheap for ESRI.  Are there alternates?
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Re: [AFMUG] OT - AWS question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT - AWS question


Forrest,

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Wednesday, February 2, 2022, 6:37:42 PM, you wrote:





See:

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/vm-import/latest/userguide/vmexport.html



On Wed, Feb 2, 2022 at 4:33 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




I have a cousin that has a fairly complicated IIS web server running on
AWS.   He wants to bring it in house.  He was going to rebuild it from
scratch, but is unsure about some of the moving parts.

I  suggested that he try to get an image of the AWS server and spin it
up on his own VM servers.

Question  is,  can  you  get  an  image of a AWS server.  Seems like a
simple thing on the surface.  But I see it falling apart with just the
shear size of the VM being downloaded over the Internet.

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[AFMUG] OT - AWS question

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

I have a cousin that has a fairly complicated IIS web server running on
AWS.   He wants to bring it in house.  He was going to rebuild it from
scratch, but is unsure about some of the moving parts.

I  suggested that he try to get an image of the AWS server and spin it
up on his own VM servers.

Question  is,  can  you  get  an  image of a AWS server.  Seems like a
simple thing on the surface.  But I see it falling apart with just the
shear size of the VM being downloaded over the Internet.

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Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 dial plan

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 dial plan


Carl,

yes they are three different rules.  I think the standard is using the | as an or operator
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Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 3:24:12 PM, you wrote:





Thanks Mark,  I'm not quite getting that.  Would that be three rules like:
^[2-9][11]
^*xx
^x,T 

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 2:06 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




Carl,

This is what I'm using on my zhone 

[2-9]11|*xx|x.T

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 2:59:58 PM, you wrote:





Anyone have a working dial plan off an E7-2 they can share?  I can't get 10 digit dialing to work without a 1 in front of it.  

^911n
^411n
^811n
^1[2-9][0-9]{9}   <--- 10 digit dialing with 1 works
^011[0-9]*T
^[2-9][0-9]{9}   <--- 10 digit dialing without 1 won't work
^[2-9][0-9]{6} <-- 7 digit dialing in the area code works 
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Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 dial plan

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 dial plan


Carl,

This is what I'm using on my zhone 

[2-9]11|*xx|x.T

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Wednesday, January 26, 2022, 2:59:58 PM, you wrote:





Anyone have a working dial plan off an E7-2 they can share?  I can't get 10 digit dialing to work without a 1 in front of it.  

^911n
^411n
^811n
^1[2-9][0-9]{9}   <--- 10 digit dialing with 1 works
^011[0-9]*T
^[2-9][0-9]{9}   <--- 10 digit dialing without 1 won't work
^[2-9][0-9]{6} <-- 7 digit dialing in the area code works 
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Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router


Canopy,

That new CCR2116 looks like a beast.  I would love to try one of those out as a BGP router.  Just worried about the new software.  It is nice to hear someone has them in production.  Are you in a mixed version environment?


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Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 10:24:12 AM, you wrote:





I'd HIGHLY recommend starting with Mikrotik. Go with a CCR2004 or the newer CCR2116. We have two locations where
we upgraded them to V7.1.1 and they are stable even with BGP/OSPF, etc. Next best option would be a Mikrotik on an X86
like Baltic. But at that point, might as well go Juniper.

You can't beat Mikrotik for starting out. It does everything you need and the price point can't be beat.

On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 10:10 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:




I'm using Mikrotik.  Get a "cheap" 1036 right now.  When you outgrow it, replace it with the bigger CCR (1072 is bigger but you need to avoid NAT and such for crashes at high throughput).  The newer CCR are bigger still and even cheaper, but v7 only and hence are super buggy.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 5:19 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:




I think you mean transport, transit is internet access/dia/full routes, so you have 3 transit providers feeding a switch and transport back to your hut =) Mikrotik is a decent router but stay away from the 1072, the 1036 is solid but since it's using CPU instead of asic it cannot withstand many ddos attacks

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




Dmmoffett,

All three of my BGP routers are RouterOS.  Two are old x86 from baltic with the 4 port 10 gig card. One is a CCR1072.  At peak I'm pushing about 12G total across all three.  Really haven't push the CCR to the limits yet.


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Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 2:33:02 PM, you wrote:





….and I still love Mikrotik’s, but the CCR1072 crash/reboot issue was a big turnoff.  

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:32 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

The only thing I’d be careful of is Juniper changed pricing recently, so don’t trust any price you hear that isn’t from 2022.

I’m really loving Arista these days.  An Arista L3 switch would probably do everything you’d want.  They do have routers too of course, but switches are cheap enough to keep a spare.  Arista’s command syntax is identical to Cisco, so there’s that too.

-Adam


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:27 PM
To: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Yeah just get a juniper, even if you go used, i think it's a front loaded investment with a great roi in headaches saved

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:25 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:




We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another company that has some Cisco big iron there.  
It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such that it will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: Dual DIA router

What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a switch and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3 is a good option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:




To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router.  Or used router.  Last time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper.  I don’t have a ton of customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 in the next 2-3 years.  
What would be a good value there?  I really don’t want a $25K router right now.  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM
To: TJ Trout 
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment...  The problem is having the two backhaul circuits.  Maybe I could vlan them.  
No harm in quoting HE.  Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah?

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:




$950 10G flat.  $30 for bgp.  

F

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router


Josh,

I was wondering if anyone has tried v7 in mixed production with v6 units.  They are coming out with some nice new HW, but it runs only v7.  I guess that is a good thing being they are not wasting their time putting old SW on the new HW.  I much rather them concentrate on the new stuff.  But, is the new stuff ready for production?  Also, does it play well (OSPF) with the old stuff? 

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Wednesday, January 19, 2022, 10:09:10 AM, you wrote:





I'm using Mikrotik.  Get a "cheap" 1036 right now.  When you outgrow it, replace it with the bigger CCR (1072 is bigger but you need to avoid NAT and such for crashes at high throughput).  The newer CCR are bigger still and even cheaper, but v7 only and hence are super buggy.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 5:19 PM TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:




I think you mean transport, transit is internet access/dia/full routes, so you have 3 transit providers feeding a switch and transport back to your hut =) Mikrotik is a decent router but stay away from the 1072, the 1036 is solid but since it's using CPU instead of asic it cannot withstand many ddos attacks

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 2:03 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




Dmmoffett,

All three of my BGP routers are RouterOS.  Two are old x86 from baltic with the 4 port 10 gig card. One is a CCR1072.  At peak I'm pushing about 12G total across all three.  Really haven't push the CCR to the limits yet.


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Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 2:33:02 PM, you wrote:





….and I still love Mikrotik’s, but the CCR1072 crash/reboot issue was a big turnoff.  

From: dmmoff...@gmail.com <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:32 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

The only thing I’d be careful of is Juniper changed pricing recently, so don’t trust any price you hear that isn’t from 2022.

I’m really loving Arista these days.  An Arista L3 switch would probably do everything you’d want.  They do have routers too of course, but switches are cheap enough to keep a spare.  Arista’s command syntax is identical to Cisco, so there’s that too.

-Adam


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:27 PM
To: Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com>
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

Yeah just get a juniper, even if you go used, i think it's a front loaded investment with a great roi in headaches saved

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:25 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:




We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another company that has some Cisco big iron there.  
It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such that it will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: Dual DIA router

What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a switch and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3 is a good option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:




To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router.  Or used router.  Last time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper.  I don’t have a ton of customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 in the next 2-3 years.  
What would be a good value there?  I really don’t want a $25K router right now.  

From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM
To: TJ Trout 
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment...  The problem is having the two backhaul circuits.  Maybe I could vlan them.  
No harm in quoting HE.  Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah?

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:




$950 10G flat.  $30 for bgp.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing

Cogent charges for bgp so ask for that in the quote if you need it. 

Hurricane electric is 700-800$ on a 36mo term I believe, some UT locations with few customers might be an extra $500.  

Telia is 

Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router


Dmmoffett,

All three of my BGP routers are RouterOS.  Two are old x86 from baltic with the 4 port 10 gig card. One is a CCR1072.  At peak I'm pushing about 12G total across all three.  Really haven't push the CCR to the limits yet.


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Tuesday, January 18, 2022, 2:33:02 PM, you wrote:





….and I still love Mikrotik’s, but the CCR1072 crash/reboot issue was a big turnoff.  
 
From: dmmoff...@gmail.com  
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:32 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' 
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router
 
The only thing I’d be careful of is Juniper changed pricing recently, so don’t trust any price you hear that isn’t from 2022.
 
I’m really loving Arista these days.  An Arista L3 switch would probably do everything you’d want.  They do have routers too of course, but switches are cheap enough to keep a spare.  Arista’s command syntax is identical to Cisco, so there’s that too.
 
-Adam
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:27 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router
 
Yeah just get a juniper, even if you go used, i think it's a front loaded investment with a great roi in headaches saved
 
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:25 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:




We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another company that has some Cisco big iron there.  
It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such that it will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now.  
 
From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: Dual DIA router
 
What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a switch and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3 is a good option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+
 
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:




To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router.  Or used router.  Last time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper.  I don’t have a ton of customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 in the next 2-3 years.  
What would be a good value there?  I really don’t want a $25K router right now.  
 
From: Chuck McCown via AF 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM
To: TJ Trout 
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
 
Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment...  The problem is having the two backhaul circuits.  Maybe I could vlan them.  
No harm in quoting HE.  Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah?
 
From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM
To: Chuck McCown 
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
 
I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other
 
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:




$950 10G flat.  $30 for bgp.  
 
From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Cc: Chuck McCown 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
 
Cogent charges for bgp so ask for that in the quote if you need it. 
 
Hurricane electric is 700-800$ on a 36mo term I believe, some UT locations with few customers might be an extra $500.  
 
Telia is a very good option but won't be quite as inexpensive as Cogent or HE, but they have really good routes and the full internet. 
 
I can be your advocate on these types of orders, one email and I'll aggregate the quotes and send them back to you, carriers pay me 10% or so out of their side of the deal, you still pay the same. 
 
TJ
 
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 9:36 AM Chuck McCown via AF  wrote:




Shopping for DIA again.  Asking Cogent to freshen up a quote.  A couple of years ago they quoted a special 10G flat for $1200/month.  Hopefully that same or better deal is still available.
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Dual DIA router


Chuck,

I was able to get a 1U slot at our datacenter.  Originally started with a used IBM switch that had 1/10 gig ports.  Had a 10G transit back to my data center and had 3 different connections out the the Internet from the datacenter. Did vlans across the transit.   

I'm in the process of upgrading the transit to 100G.  Put in a used dell switch at data center with 6 100G ports and 48 1/10/25 gig ports.  Put the exact same switch in at my local hut.  Still running 3 providers at the datacenter.  Still using vlans.  I ended up connecting 3 BGP routers to the switch in my hut to distribute the data instead of doing one big BGP router.
   
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We are actually routerless at the moment, buying access from another company that has some Cisco big iron there.  
It was a great way to start out from scratch but the economics are such that it will pay us to do our own router and own DIA now.  
 
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 12:23 PM
To: Chuck McCown
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: Dual DIA router
 
What's your current router? I'm sure it can do many connections using a switch and vlans. What is the specs you want and budget? Baltic vengence 3 is a good option, or mx204 is the best option probably but 25k+
 
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022, 11:13 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:




To do dual DIA we are going to have to do a new router.  Or used router.  Last time down this road we were kicking tires on Juniper.  I don’t have a ton of customers on my new system yet but I can foresee 2000 in the next 2-3 years.  
What would be a good value there?  I really don’t want a $25K router right now.  
 
From: Chuck McCown via AF
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:55 AM
To: TJ Trout
Cc: Chuck McCown ; AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
 
Not sure I want to have two providers at the moment...  The problem is having the two backhaul circuits.  Maybe I could vlan them.  
No harm in quoting HE.  Anyone got a sales contact for me in Utah?
 
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:47 AM
To: Chuck McCown
Cc: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
 
I think HE will go 700-800 and they will usually match each other
 
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:35 AM Chuck McCown  wrote:




$950 10G flat.  $30 for bgp.  
 
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 11:29 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Chuck McCown
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] DIA Pricing
 
Cogent charges for bgp so ask for that in the quote if you need it. 
 
Hurricane electric is 700-800$ on a 36mo term I believe, some UT locations with few customers might be an extra $500.  
 
Telia is a very good option but won't be quite as inexpensive as Cogent or HE, but they have really good routes and the full internet. 
 
I can be your advocate on these types of orders, one email and I'll aggregate the quotes and send them back to you, carriers pay me 10% or so out of their side of the deal, you still pay the same. 
 
TJ
 
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Shopping for DIA again.  Asking Cogent to freshen up a quote.  A couple of years ago they quoted a special 10G flat for $1200/month.  Hopefully that same or better deal is still available.
 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT Merging Data

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT Merging Data


Steve,

If KEY fields match between data sets then VLOOKUP is the way to go.  I think the new XLOOKUP is an enhanced option of VLOOKUP 
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That's what you have to do. I remember I just did multiple pages in one spreadsheet and it was a ton of sort commands and then the merging. I recall it does it all on the clip board and it's real easy to deselect the data for merging.

I remember exporting data as csv helped by using notepad++ where I needed random blank cells added to get it in the right format. I dont remember the notepad++ plugin I had to use for that.

Excel projects suck. Spend 30 hours learning to master a specific task that takes 2 minutes to perform and you will not remember how to do 2 years later when you need to do it again

On Sat, Dec 18, 2021, 11:39 AM Bill Prince  wrote:




I would start with a 4th spreadsheet with all the columns you need (names, addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses). 
Then the challenge is the merge.
Try something like this: https://community.powerbi.com/t5/Desktop/Combine-multiple-excel-files-with-different-structure-columns/td-p/1372702
bp

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I have at least three files I need to merge.  Spreadsheets.
 
Say one has names and addresses
One has addresses and phone numbers
One has phone numbers and email addresses
 
They are not the same length of file so certain records are missing in all three files.
There is something common to allow one file to be merged into at least one of the other files.  
 
I really don’t want to write code to parse and search.  
I am hopeful there is some kind of feature in excel that could do this.
Or I guess I might be able to fire up a database and make it happen.  
 
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Re: [AFMUG] OT: Omicron Variant

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Omicron Variant


Robert,


https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-59450988

https://nypost.com/2021/11/27/omicron-variant-symptoms-unusual-but-mild-says-south-african-doctor/

https://www.newsweek.com/doctor-first-raised-concern-over-omicron-variant-says-symptoms-are-mild-south-africa-1653740



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Steve, do you have a link to the article from the original researcher?

On 11/27/21 10:06 PM, Steve Jones wrote:




I'm trying to remember. It was a horror flick that the device was called the omnichron that was doing all the evil. I though it was the box from hell raise but it wasnt. 
I am getting a kick out of this ones hype. I was reading about the researcher that identified this as trending. What she notice in commonality was how mild it was, no loss of taste and smell, slight fever, mild cough. 
The mildness is what stood out to her. It's like all the viral penis points that mutated all went full cuck on this one. Very fitting

On Sat, Nov 27, 2021, 12:23 PM Bill Prince  wrote:




I did not think of either one of those. I've never seen Futurama, and I was not aware of the watch.
Now I think of this

bp

On 11/27/2021 9:33 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:




Nope.
This is what I think of:
 
 
 
Chuck McCown
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8401 N Commerce Dr
Lake Point, Utah 84074
801-250-9503
435-830-4306 cell 
www.mccowntech.com
www.microtrench-blades.com
 
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From: Nate Burke 
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2021 8:41 AM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Omicron Variant 
 
Am I the only one that thinks of this whenever I see it?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ia5c78zlyxw&t=4s
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Sharing internet connection between buildings

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Jay,

I would do a fiber run between the buildings.

These are nice on both ends 
https://www.amazon.com/TRENDnet-Switching-Capacity-Protection-TEG-S51SFP/dp/B019IHWSF0/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Teg-s51sfp&qid=1629908139&sr=8-2

Get some a couple of transceivers and terminated fiber.
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JW> I've got a client that needs a network line installed from their house
JW> to another building but they are on separate power meters.  I understand
JW> that running a cable between two different ground points is not 
JW> advisable.  Is there a way around this?  A wireless link isn't an option
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Re: [AFMUG] Momentum Telcom?

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Momentum Telcom?


Mark,

Should clarify "1500+ Phone Lines".  We don't use them for transit.
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Tuesday, August 10, 2021, 11:20:52 AM, you wrote:





We have about 1500 lines with Momentum.  Rarely do we have an issue with them.  They have 2 or 3 switches around the country, so they are fairly redundant.  We have been with them for about 8 years.  Really have no complaints.  Customer service is very responsive.


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The local electric coop who is building a fiber network "to connect their substations" and will serve anyone they pass has been offline now for two days.  Their provider is apparently this company.  

Any back story or inside info?

from their facebook - 

8/9/2021 - 8/10/2021
6:00 AM Update:
Overnight communications with our carrier have yielded no results. Unfortunately, we still do not have an ETA on when the outage will be resolved. Please know our board, management, and Sprout team find this is as unacceptable as you do and this is not how we treat our subscribers. We will make this right. We will ensure this type of issue does not occur again.
__
8:00 PM Update:
Guys, we are so very sorry for this outage! The information we've received so far is that the carrier has their engineers testing the connection and the only explanation is "difficulties at the core." It's not good news as we still have not been giving a cause, location or ETA. We will continue to work with the carrier until the issue is resolved and all of our subscribers are back online. We know everyone's patience, including ours, is wearing thin due to the lack of information and resolution. We will pass along any new information as it becomes available.
_
4:30 PM Update: 
We have sent an email communication to all of our subscribers with additional information, including the notice that a bill credit will be issued for this outage. Please check the email associated with your Sprout Account. Unfortunately, the short answer is we still do not have an ETA of when service will be restored and we still do not know the cause. The issue is in the connection from Atlanta via an internet carrier to us. There is no damage or cause on our side of the connection. 
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1:30 PM Update:
We do not have an estimated time for service restoration. We are communicating with our service provider, and as soon as we hear any new information from them, we will let you know. 
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Re: [AFMUG] Momentum Telcom?

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Momentum Telcom?


We have about 1500 lines with Momentum.  Rarely do we have an issue with them.  They have 2 or 3 switches around the country, so they are fairly redundant.  We have been with them for about 8 years.  Really have no complaints.  Customer service is very responsive.


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The local electric coop who is building a fiber network "to connect their substations" and will serve anyone they pass has been offline now for two days.  Their provider is apparently this company.  

Any back story or inside info?
 
from their facebook - 
 
8/9/2021 - 8/10/2021
6:00 AM Update:
Overnight communications with our carrier have yielded no results. Unfortunately, we still do not have an ETA on when the outage will be resolved. Please know our board, management, and Sprout team find this is as unacceptable as you do and this is not how we treat our subscribers. We will make this right. We will ensure this type of issue does not occur again.
__
8:00 PM Update:
Guys, we are so very sorry for this outage! The information we've received so far is that the carrier has their engineers testing the connection and the only explanation is "difficulties at the core." It's not good news as we still have not been giving a cause, location or ETA. We will continue to work with the carrier until the issue is resolved and all of our subscribers are back online. We know everyone's patience, including ours, is wearing thin due to the lack of information and resolution. We will pass along any new information as it becomes available.
_
4:30 PM Update: 
We have sent an email communication to all of our subscribers with additional information, including the notice that a bill credit will be issued for this outage. Please check the email associated with your Sprout Account. Unfortunately, the short answer is we still do not have an ETA of when service will be restored and we still do not know the cause. The issue is in the connection from Atlanta via an internet carrier to us. There is no damage or cause on our side of the connection. 
__
1:30 PM Update:
We do not have an estimated time for service restoration. We are communicating with our service provider, and as soon as we hear any new information from them, we will let you know. 
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We are experiencing an internet outage from our provider that is impacting all of our subscribers. We are getting more information and will report updates here.
 
 





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[AFMUG] Customer wants a SLA

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

I  have  a  customer  that wants a SLA.  Believe it or not this is the
first  time  in  10  years  we have been asked for a SLA.  Anyone have
something they want to share.

They  are  asking  for  a  time to repair of 4 hours which seems a bit
excessive   to  me.   That will be fine during business hours, but I'm
thinking that number may need to go up during non-business hours.

If I'm giving them a SLA, I want to make sure their
is  wording  about  how  much  they will be charged if we have to do a
truck  roll  to  fix  one of their issues.  Like plugging their router
back in the wall.

On  the plus side, they are only 15 minutes from both my house and the
office.  So, if the shit hits the fan, we can get someone there quickly.


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[AFMUG] venting - port 443

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Why  is  it  whenever  some  random  piece  of equipment that needs to
connect  to  a  server  securely  doesn't  work,  it is always the ISP
blocking  port  443.  Been working with a customer, their consultant, and
the  manufacturer  on  a  CC  terminal that won't connect to the their
server  for  2  days.  Of course the standard answer is "We never have
issues  with  these  terminals, your ISP is blocking 443"  Don't these
guys  realize  that  if  I  was blocking 443, 90% of the Internet won't
work.

BTW - We had a break through this morning.  Looks like the date on the
CC terminal was set to 10/7/2018.  Hmm, that could cause an issue with
the  security  certificate.   They fixed the date and things look like
they are working.  Haven't gotten the all clear yet.

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Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation


Sterling,

That is why I'm testing the 1072.. Currently I have two old MaxxWaxe x86 routers.  One connected to each of my upstreams.  I have 2 Internet connections and an IX connection at each upstream.  We are currently upgrading our upstream's to 100G connections.  So I had to introduce a switch to handle the 100G from each upstream.

The plan is to have 3 BGP routers (maybe 1072) connected to the switch.  Each router will peer with one provider from each upstream.  The plan is even if one upstream goes down and all the traffic gets pushed to a single upstream, I will still be sharing the load across 3 BGP routers. 



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Friday, July 2, 2021, 12:48:44 PM, you wrote:






The easiest route and probably still the least expensive is just get two CCR 1072 units, one for each 10Gbps upstream and make them both BGP upstream and BGP to each other.
That’s what our configuration is right now.
1072 units take a while to learn full tables, but having two with full tables means I can down one for maintenance any time and then let it rebuild, then down the other one and rebuild without network down time.
 
Like everyone says, DO NOT RUN CONNECTION TRACKING on the 1072 units, period.
 
We just use them for our BPG, iBGP and OSPF routing core.
Everything else is running 1036 or 2004 for 10Gbps CGNAT and management IPv4 nat (that handles the conn tracking just fine for a couple Gigabit each).
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 7:39 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation
 
If you like Mikrotik, I'd go something CHR-based.


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From: "Jason McKemie" 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 12:48:19 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation
I'm looking to update my gateway router (currently a CCR1036) to something that can support 2 10GE WAN connections running BGP.  I'd probably want at least 3 or 4 SFP+ ports.  The CCR1072 comes to mind, but I've read horror stories relating to this model, so I'm looking at other options.  Those of you that use Juniper or Cisco, what would you recommend?  I'd probably be buying gray-market on these brands due to the price.
 
Thanks.
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation


I just checked, mine is set to auto and is currently off.  So, none of my FW rules are making it go active.  I'll have to keep my eye on that.


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The trick with 1072 is you need to disable connection tracking.  Ours have been 100% stable ever since doing that.  That means no NAT and only basic firewall rules (src/dst/ip/port).  Just do your NAT and firewall stuff on other boxes.
 
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Jason McKemie
Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2021 1:48 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation
 
I'm looking to update my gateway router (currently a CCR1036) to something that can support 2 10GE WAN connections running BGP.  I'd probably want at least 3 or 4 SFP+ ports.  The CCR1072 comes to mind, but I've read horror stories relating to this model, so I'm looking at other options.  Those of you that use Juniper or Cisco, what would you recommend?  I'd probably be buying gray-market on these brands due to the price.
 
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Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation


Jason,

I'm currently testing a CCR1072. Only have a single 10G eBGP connection.  Peaks at about 2GB for now.  Running fine.  Going to add a 10GB iBGP connection to it in the next few days to see how it handles a bit more load.  It it passes that, I'll add another 10GB eBGP connection to it.  Don't think I'll try to push it beyond that until v7 is ready.

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I'm looking to update my gateway router (currently a CCR1036) to something that can support 2 10GE WAN connections running BGP.  I'd probably want at least 3 or 4 SFP+ ports.  The CCR1072 comes to mind, but I've read horror stories relating to this model, so I'm looking at other options.  Those of you that use Juniper or Cisco, what would you recommend?  I'd probably be buying gray-market on these brands due to the price.

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Re: [AFMUG] OT hotspot sim

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] OT hotspot sim


Chuck,

Freedom Pop maybe?
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I have an AT&T hotspot.  It has some off brand sim card.  Free data if you keep it under some tiny amount.  Problem is, I don’t know who I got it from.  I want to log in and up the data but I have no clue.  Someone here recommended it a couple of years ago.  





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Re: [AFMUG] ZOOM issues

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] ZOOM issues


Mike,

Possible buffer overrun on Mikrotik routers

We are in the process of upgrading our backhauls.  As part of this upgrade, I introduced a switch to the network.  Instead of provider A being directly connected to BGP router A and provider B being directly connected to BGP Router B.  I now have provider A & B connected to a switch and BGP router A & B connected to the same switch.

It appears this switch was feeding data to the routers faster than they could handle.  It wasn't a consistent thing.  Seemed to happen for a very short time and in bursts.  Normal streaming, web surfing and even VoIP seemed to work fine.  The calls we were getting were from people using ZOOM and other real time video chat applications.

I ended up enabling Flow Control on the interfaces.  That has fixed the issue with no reported side effects.  I can confirm the flow control is doing something, because I can see the throttles counter increasing.

The plan is to upgrade the two Mikrotik BGP routers to the current version and to work on optimizing the firewall rules.  Hopefully that will help.  Unless I see some bad side effects to the flow control being turned on, I'm going to leave it on. 


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Upstream peering port congestion?



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From: "Mark - Myakka Technologies" 
To: "Animal Farm" 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2021 2:19:08 PM
Subject: [AFMUG] ZOOM issues

Anyone  else  getting  complaints about ZOOM performance over the last
week.   Been getting a higher than usual level of calls about the "Your
Internet  Connection  Is Unstable" message.  These guys are on a fiber
connection.   Our  upstream bandwidth is no where near capacity.  Most
of  these  guys  are  on  our 50/50 mbps plans.  Other real-time stuff
seems to be working, such as VoIP.

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[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Anyone  else  getting  complaints about ZOOM performance over the last
week.   Been getting a higher than usual level of calls about the "Your
Internet  Connection  Is Unstable" message.  These guys are on a fiber
connection.   Our  upstream bandwidth is no where near capacity.  Most
of  these  guys  are  on  our 50/50 mbps plans.  Other real-time stuff
seems to be working, such as VoIP.

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Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment


James,

Go to tools/resources and choose reports

Detail Active Subscriber Report 

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Monday, May 17, 2021, 12:36:42 PM, you wrote:






Did you ask the customer for the application ID they get when they are actually verified?   I’m surprised they don’t ask us for that when we enroll them but I didn’t see where you could enter it.  I’ve only had one give us that so far and after a few attempts at submitting it and not having all the required fields exactly right it finally showed as “SUCCESS” for the status.  Is there some way to actually see the enrolled subscribers though?  I haven’t been able to find that.  I did see something in the stuff about submitting claims that the system takes a snapshot at the end/beginning of the month of all the enrolled subscribers.  Seems like we need to be able to see them somewhere in order to know if we need to update or de-enroll them…
 
 
 
From: AF  On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2021 7:14 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment
 
We have one that we were able to fully qualify and enroll last week.

Of the 5 that applied over the weekend 3 say “Application_Not_Found”, one is “Application Pending” and one has multiple fails for “Application_not_complete”, “Invalid_Address”, and “State_Fed_Fail”. 

Just starting to dig into what all this means though.

Mark

> On May 16, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
> 
> Has anyone had any luck enrolling customers in EBB? I have 3
> customers that I'm trying to enroll. Al 3 say the went though the
> process. One of them sent me a screen shot saying they were accepted.
> Every time I try to enroll them I get
> 
> "The subscriber has not qualified through the National Verifier yet
> or their application has expired. You can qualify them now at getemergencybroadband.org"
> 
> The odds of all 3 screwing up are low. Just wondering if there is
> something I'm missing.
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment

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Mark,

I  now  am  2 for 5 on enrollment.  Interesting that the two that were
approved today were the two that qualified.

I  also  made sure that my date fields in the CSV were MM/DD/. The
first  couple  of  times  I had a birth date of 6/5/1995.  Knowing the
government  that  won't  match  06/05/1995, so I made sure I got it in
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Monday, May 17, 2021, 8:14:28 AM, you wrote:

MR> We have one that we were able to fully qualify and enroll last week.

MR> Of the 5 that applied over the weekend 3 say
MR> “Application_Not_Found”, one is “Application Pending” and one has
MR> multiple fails for “Application_not_complete”, “Invalid_Address”, and 
“State_Fed_Fail”.

MR> Just starting to dig into what all this means though.

MR> Mark

>> On May 16, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Has  anyone  had  any  luck  enrolling  customers  in  EBB?   I have 3
>> customers  that  I'm  trying  to enroll.  Al 3 say the went though the
>> process.  One of them sent me a screen shot saying they were accepted.
>> Every time I try to enroll them I get
>> 
>> "The  subscriber  has not qualified through the National Verifier yet
>> or their application has expired. You can qualify them now at 
>> getemergencybroadband.org"
>> 
>> The  odds  of  all  3 screwing up are low.  Just wondering if there is
>> something I'm missing.
>> 
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment


Cameron,

No way it will ever die.  I don't care what side of the aisle you are on.  Taking Internet away from starving children is political suicide.

My guess is we will all be collecting USF on the Internet in the near future.

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Monday, May 17, 2021, 10:13:42 AM, you wrote:






Guessing it will never die.

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 11:14 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:




We are late to the game becoming a qualifying provider. At least the government is messing things up so we wont look as bad.
I dont think anybody expected the feds to actively market this as hard as they are 
I dont understand the fed investment on a program that is set to die shortly. Unless of course there was never any intention for it to end with the pandemic. There is no way the government would not be forthright.

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We have five qualified but I haven't tried to enroll them yet.  I'll post when I do...probably tomorrow 

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Subject: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment
Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 2:34 PM

Has anyone had any luck enrolling customers in EBB? I have 3
customers that I'm trying to enroll. Al 3 say the went though the
process. One of them sent me a screen shot saying they were accepted.
Every time I try to enroll them I get

"The subscriber has not qualified through the National Verifier yet
or their application has expired. You can qualify them now at getemergencybroadband.org"

The odds of all 3 screwing up are low. Just wondering if there is
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB Enrollment

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Mark,


I am now officially 0 for 4.  All 4 coming back APPLICATION_NOT_FOUND.
 If  I don't get an e-mail response later today, I guess I may have to
 call them.

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Monday, May 17, 2021, 8:14:28 AM, you wrote:

MR> We have one that we were able to fully qualify and enroll last week.

MR> Of the 5 that applied over the weekend 3 say
MR> “Application_Not_Found”, one is “Application Pending” and one has
MR> multiple fails for “Application_not_complete”, “Invalid_Address”, and 
“State_Fed_Fail”.

MR> Just starting to dig into what all this means though.

MR> Mark

>> On May 16, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Has  anyone  had  any  luck  enrolling  customers  in  EBB?   I have 3
>> customers  that  I'm  trying  to enroll.  Al 3 say the went though the
>> process.  One of them sent me a screen shot saying they were accepted.
>> Every time I try to enroll them I get
>> 
>> "The  subscriber  has not qualified through the National Verifier yet
>> or their application has expired. You can qualify them now at 
>> getemergencybroadband.org"
>> 
>> The  odds  of  all  3 screwing up are low.  Just wondering if there is
>> something I'm missing.
>> 
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[AFMUG] EBB Enrollment

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Has  anyone  had  any  luck  enrolling  customers  in  EBB?   I have 3
customers  that  I'm  trying  to enroll.  Al 3 say the went though the
process.  One of them sent me a screen shot saying they were accepted.
Every time I try to enroll them I get

 "The  subscriber  has not qualified through the National Verifier yet
 or their application has expired. You can qualify them now at 
getemergencybroadband.org"

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Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program


Mark,

I'm planning on having a little document the customer will have to electronically sign.  Just going to layout some rules and policies they are agreeing to.  Going to advise them to keep their email address up to date and optionally give us a cell phone we can call or text when we have to do the wonderful opt-in back in for every customer at the end of the program(if it ever ends).  I will also put the automatic package adjustment on unpaid accounts in that document.

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 5:45:29 PM, you wrote:





The FCC told WISPA that you have to get the customers permission in order to change speed, yet you are not allowed to disconnect them.

Pretty contradictory - as usual.   I’m not sure what the rules are on sending Jaba over to collect your five bucks.

Mark





On May 5, 2021, at 5:11 PM, Brian Webster  wrote:













Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program
PrePay for any services/features that are over and above your basic $50 a month plan. If they don’t pre-pay for the added services they get bumped back to the basic $50 plan features and speeds.
 
Thank you,
Brian Webster
 
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 3:47 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program
 
"A provider may not disconnect a household for non-payment"
You're thinking pre-pay is a workaround?  "I'm not disconnecting them, they just haven't paid for the next month."
I'd be curious to see how well that flies, but I won't be the one to try it.
 
On 5/5/2021 1:27 PM, Brian Webster wrote:




And/or any of your plans that are above $50, just make them prepay per month, the additional amount.
 
Thank you,
Brian Webster
 
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program
 
Wow.
So make sure you have a $50/month plan you can move them to?
 
On 5/5/2021 11:46 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




Official response from FCC

"Thank you for reaching out with your question.  

Your interpretation is correct.  A provider may not disconnect a household for non-payment associated with the EBB-supported service during the EBB Program.  Upon the conclusion of the EBB Program, the provider’s generally applicable terms and conditions would apply and the provider could take action for that non-payment consistent with those terms and conditions.  

In the situation you describe where a household is not making payments on their EBB-supported service, a provider can move the household to a lower-priced tier provided that the package also qualifies for EBB Program (i.e., was offered as of 12/1/20). "


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Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 10:21:30 AM, you wrote:




I'd assume you're right.  "ability to participate" in a program has to be a distinct thing from having internet service.

On 5/4/2021 11:05 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:




There is another, alternative, way to read that paragraph, in that it might be saying something like "just because they were a deadbeat in the past, you can't deny them an EBB subsidy".   Not "if they're an EBB customer, you have to provide them service without regard to their ability to pay". 

I think this hinges on what it means by "ability to participate".   Does it mean you have to accept people who are EBB eligible regardless, or does it mean that you can't tell customers that they have to be current to retain their EBB subsidy.
The first option would be stupid (but not beyond the government to put into rules), the second seems reasonable - you can't use EBB eligibility as leverage to get customers to pay.   "If you don't stay current, we'll prevent you from getting your EBB subsidy and as such you'll have to pay even more"


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




For  those  that  are  doing  EBB,  what are your plans for non-paying
customers?  In the order there is the following clause

"participating providers must not deny an eligible household the
ability to participate in the EBB Program based on any past or present
arrearages with that provider"

I read that as we can not terminate service is a customer does not pay
their  share of the bill.  In theory a customer can sign up for a $125
plan, not pay a penny and tell us to go pound sand.

We  are  planning  to  tell  all  EBB customers if their account is in
arrearages,  they will be reduced to our $55/month plan until they are
paid in full.  I'm willing to eat $5/month.

Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program


Steve,

the smart ass answer is...

If your too lazy to look, then you will be too lazy to jump though all the hoops to get setup.

Luckily we had a bunch of the stuff already setup.

We already have a USAC account, so didn't have to deal with that.  Already had a SAMS.gov account, so didn't have to deal with that.

Here is the steps from one of the webinars if your are starting from scratch 

To get started in the EBB Program, service providers must take the following steps:


Register with SAM.gov*
Obtain an FCC Registration Number (FRN) *
Apply for FCC approval(only applicable to non-ETCs)
Submit an election notice to USACInclude all necessary supporting documentation
Set up One Portal Account
Register representatives in the Representative Accountability Database (RAD)

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Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 4:25:49 PM, you wrote:





What are the requirements to be EBB provider? Too lazy to look

On Wed, May 5, 2021, 2:49 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:




"A provider may not disconnect a household for non-payment"
You're thinking pre-pay is a workaround?  "I'm not disconnecting them, they just haven't paid for the next month."
I'd be curious to see how well that flies, but I won't be the one to try it.

On 5/5/2021 1:27 PM, Brian Webster wrote:




And/or any of your plans that are above $50, just make them prepay per month, the additional amount.
 
Thank you,
Brian Webster
 
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program
 
Wow.
So make sure you have a $50/month plan you can move them to?
 
On 5/5/2021 11:46 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




Official response from FCC

"Thank you for reaching out with your question.  

Your interpretation is correct.  A provider may not disconnect a household for non-payment associated with the EBB-supported service during the EBB Program.  Upon the conclusion of the EBB Program, the provider’s generally applicable terms and conditions would apply and the provider could take action for that non-payment consistent with those terms and conditions.  

In the situation you describe where a household is not making payments on their EBB-supported service, a provider can move the household to a lower-priced tier provided that the package also qualifies for EBB Program (i.e., was offered as of 12/1/20). "


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Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 10:21:30 AM, you wrote:




I'd assume you're right.  "ability to participate" in a program has to be a distinct thing from having internet service.

On 5/4/2021 11:05 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:




There is another, alternative, way to read that paragraph, in that it might be saying something like "just because they were a deadbeat in the past, you can't deny them an EBB subsidy".   Not "if they're an EBB customer, you have to provide them service without regard to their ability to pay". 

I think this hinges on what it means by "ability to participate".   Does it mean you have to accept people who are EBB eligible regardless, or does it mean that you can't tell customers that they have to be current to retain their EBB subsidy.
The first option would be stupid (but not beyond the government to put into rules), the second seems reasonable - you can't use EBB eligibility as leverage to get customers to pay.   "If you don't stay current, we'll prevent you from getting your EBB subsidy and as such you'll have to pay even more"


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




For  those  that  are  doing  EBB,  what are your plans for non-paying
customers?  In the order there is the following clause

"participating providers must not deny an eligible household the
ability to participate in the EBB Program based on any past or present
arrearages with that provider"

I read that as we can not terminate service is a customer does not pay
their  share of the bill.  In theory a customer can sign up for a $125
plan, not pay a penny and tell us to go pound sand.

We  are  planning  to  tell  all  EBB customers if their account is in
arrearages,  they will be reduced to our $55/month plan until they are
paid in full.  I'm willing to eat $5/month.

I  have sent an email to the FCC to see if this would be allowed under
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program


Josh,

Our lowest approved package is $55.00.  Late on the 10th here also.  If they are late, they are being switched to the lowest package. I'll eat $5/month.  Not eating $10-$25/month for duration of program.   


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Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 2:55:09 PM, you wrote:





We're prepaid already and it's late 10 days after the billing date.  Worst case you get the $50/mo for a few months and that difference of 10-25/mo you just have to eat.  Shitty people going to be shitty, don't expect anything to change.

Josh Luthman
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On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:28 PM Brian Webster <i...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:




And/or any of your plans that are above $50, just make them prepay per month, the additional amount.
 
Thank you,
Brian Webster
 
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, May 5, 2021 11:55 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program
 
Wow.
So make sure you have a $50/month plan you can move them to?
 
On 5/5/2021 11:46 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




Official response from FCC

"Thank you for reaching out with your question.  

Your interpretation is correct.  A provider may not disconnect a household for non-payment associated with the EBB-supported service during the EBB Program.  Upon the conclusion of the EBB Program, the provider’s generally applicable terms and conditions would apply and the provider could take action for that non-payment consistent with those terms and conditions.  

In the situation you describe where a household is not making payments on their EBB-supported service, a provider can move the household to a lower-priced tier provided that the package also qualifies for EBB Program (i.e., was offered as of 12/1/20). "


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I'd assume you're right.  "ability to participate" in a program has to be a distinct thing from having internet service.

On 5/4/2021 11:05 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:




There is another, alternative, way to read that paragraph, in that it might be saying something like "just because they were a deadbeat in the past, you can't deny them an EBB subsidy".   Not "if they're an EBB customer, you have to provide them service without regard to their ability to pay". 

I think this hinges on what it means by "ability to participate".   Does it mean you have to accept people who are EBB eligible regardless, or does it mean that you can't tell customers that they have to be current to retain their EBB subsidy.
The first option would be stupid (but not beyond the government to put into rules), the second seems reasonable - you can't use EBB eligibility as leverage to get customers to pay.   "If you don't stay current, we'll prevent you from getting your EBB subsidy and as such you'll have to pay even more"


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




For  those  that  are  doing  EBB,  what are your plans for non-paying
customers?  In the order there is the following clause

"participating providers must not deny an eligible household the
ability to participate in the EBB Program based on any past or present
arrearages with that provider"

I read that as we can not terminate service is a customer does not pay
their  share of the bill.  In theory a customer can sign up for a $125
plan, not pay a penny and tell us to go pound sand.

We  are  planning  to  tell  all  EBB customers if their account is in
arrearages,  they will be reduced to our $55/month plan until they are
paid in full.  I'm willing to eat $5/month.

I  have sent an email to the FCC to see if this would be allowed under
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Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB Program


Official response from FCC

"Thank you for reaching out with your question.  
 
Your interpretation is correct.  A provider may not disconnect a household for non-payment associated with the EBB-supported service during the EBB Program.  Upon the conclusion of the EBB Program, the provider’s generally applicable terms and conditions would apply and the provider could take action for that non-payment consistent with those terms and conditions.  
 
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Wednesday, May 5, 2021, 10:21:30 AM, you wrote:





I'd assume you're right.  "ability to participate" in a program has to be a distinct thing from having internet service.

On 5/4/2021 11:05 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:




There is another, alternative, way to read that paragraph, in that it might be saying something like "just because they were a deadbeat in the past, you can't deny them an EBB subsidy".   Not "if they're an EBB customer, you have to provide them service without regard to their ability to pay". 

I think this hinges on what it means by "ability to participate".   Does it mean you have to accept people who are EBB eligible regardless, or does it mean that you can't tell customers that they have to be current to retain their EBB subsidy.
The first option would be stupid (but not beyond the government to put into rules), the second seems reasonable - you can't use EBB eligibility as leverage to get customers to pay.   "If you don't stay current, we'll prevent you from getting your EBB subsidy and as such you'll have to pay even more"


On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 10:05 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




For  those  that  are  doing  EBB,  what are your plans for non-paying
customers?  In the order there is the following clause

"participating providers must not deny an eligible household the
ability to participate in the EBB Program based on any past or present
arrearages with that provider"

I read that as we can not terminate service is a customer does not pay
their  share of the bill.  In theory a customer can sign up for a $125
plan, not pay a penny and tell us to go pound sand.

We  are  planning  to  tell  all  EBB customers if their account is in
arrearages,  they will be reduced to our $55/month plan until they are
paid in full.  I'm willing to eat $5/month.

I  have sent an email to the FCC to see if this would be allowed under
the order.  I'm waiting on a response.


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[AFMUG] EBB Program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

For  those  that  are  doing  EBB,  what are your plans for non-paying
customers?  In the order there is the following clause

"participating providers must not deny an eligible household the
ability to participate in the EBB Program based on any past or present
arrearages with that provider"

I read that as we can not terminate service is a customer does not pay
their  share of the bill.  In theory a customer can sign up for a $125
plan, not pay a penny and tell us to go pound sand.

We  are  planning  to  tell  all  EBB customers if their account is in
arrearages,  they will be reduced to our $55/month plan until they are
paid in full.  I'm willing to eat $5/month.

I  have sent an email to the FCC to see if this would be allowed under
the order.  I'm waiting on a response.


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[AFMUG] Fiber repeaters

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

We   are   working  on  upgrading  one  of  our  transport lines.  The
distance   between  us  and them is about 25km.  Carrier is telling me
only  10km  optics  are available om their end.  I know there are 40km
and even 80km optics available, but the pricing does jump quite a bit.

I'm  calling  them  out  on the 40km optics and waiting on a response.
But want to have some type of backup plan if they refuse to budge.

What repeaters are available out there.  Not sure if I'm using correct
term when searching.  This is the only thing I found so far

https://www.cubeoptics.com/demarc-convert

Other option is to get a cheap switch to do what I need it to do.


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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber optic training and certification classes in Albuquerque area

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber optic training and certification classes in Albuquerque area


Jaime,

Our class had 6 people in it.  Only two of us from our company.  Other 4 were for different companies.   Noe is the time to do it, being they are keeping class size down.  I think they have some online classes also, not sure if you can get certified though those.

 
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Thursday, April 22, 2021, 4:01:20 PM, you wrote:





We are only two and many of these outfits need 6 to 8 students..
We know how to do it...but need "Certification" for some bids...

On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 12:53 PM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




Jaime,

If you're looking for an official class, try https://lightbrigade.com/.

I just finished a two day OTDR class with them.  Took a basic fiber class with them about 10 years ago.  They do classes all around the country.

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Thursday, April 22, 2021, 2:28:41 PM, you wrote:





Does anyone know of a place? Sam i Am Lambie?
It's a short drive for me versus Dallas, which, i don't like anyways.
Thanks
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Re: [AFMUG] Fiber optic training and certification classes in Albuquerque area

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber optic training and certification classes in Albuquerque area


Jaime,

If you're looking for an official class, try https://lightbrigade.com/.

I just finished a two day OTDR class with them.  Took a basic fiber class with them about 10 years ago.  They do classes all around the country.

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Thursday, April 22, 2021, 2:28:41 PM, you wrote:





Does anyone know of a place? Sam i Am Lambie?
It's a short drive for me versus Dallas, which, i don't like anyways.
Thanks
Jaime





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[AFMUG] dell OS10 Enterprise OS

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Af,

Anyone have any opinions on the dell OS10 Enterprise OS for their Open
Network line of switches.

The good, bad and ugly?
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Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Fiberrun,

We have a couple of inno splicers that we like.

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Monday, April 5, 2021, 10:46:59 AM, you wrote:

fmc> I've used a Signal Fire splicer, one of the series 7 models. It
fmc> works, but the app is a bit annoying. Haven't tried any other
fmc> Chinese vendors. Came in a case with tools.

fmc> It's fine for burning the occasional single.

fmc> http://www.signalfiresplicer.com/
fmc>  

fmc> - Jared
fmc>  
fmc>  

fmc> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021
fmc> From: "Josh Baird" 
fmc> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" 
fmc> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

fmc> Jared,
fmc>  
fmc> Any specific brands/models we should be looking for?
fmc> Thanks!
fmc>  
fmc> Josh 

fmc> On Mon, Apr 5, 2021 at 7:16 AM
fmc> mailto:fiber...@mail.com]> wrote:If you are
fmc> only doing short haul stuff or drops then you can just get one of
fmc> those el cheapo Chinese splicers with all included for less than a grand.

fmc> There really isn't a reason to not have a splicer in your tools
fmc> set if you work with fiber to any extent. You can still farm out
fmc> the work or use pre-made cables, but at least you have the option
fmc> of doing it yourself. The option value alone is worth the up front cost.
fmc>  

fmc> - Jared
fmc>  
fmc>  

fmc> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021
fmc> From: "Steve Jones"
fmc> mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com]>
fmc> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group"
fmc> mailto:af@af.afmug.com]>
fmc> Subject: [AFMUG] Splicer purchase

fmc> Since fusion splicers arent 5 figures anymore, how close to
fmc> becoming a standard shop tool are these.
fmc>  
fmc> Depending on circumstances we will pay 20 to 70 per splice. In
fmc> it's own, relatively cheap, but then theres setup fees, trip charge, etc. 
fmc>  
fmc> I'm at a point where I dont see the process being much more tech
fmc> savvy than an rj45 with as dummy proof as splicers are now.
fmc> Probably actually less inclined for error with the machines doing all the 
work.
fmc>  
fmc> We bought 8 licences links, none of the premade cables were spot on, 2 
were short. 
fmc>  
fmc> I'm just looking for any reason not to get one, but I really
fmc> dont see why splicing isnt something we arent doing in house.
fmc>  
fmc> Techs break every tool they see being the only thing
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


Mark,

Where did you go to create your SAM account.  When I try to create one under SAM.GOV it tells me I need to used the new login.gov.  I created a login.gov account, but can't seem to figure out how to create a SAM.GOV account from that LOGIN.GOV 
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Monday, March 29, 2021, 10:23:38 AM, you wrote:





I didn’t end up there.   

It requested the designated entity administrator which I set that to be myself, printed out the letter, had it notarized and sent it in.  

Mark





On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] EBB program 
Has anyone got as far as the SAM.GOV sign up for the EBB.  I'm almost done with the sign up and it wants me to submit a notarized letter that it generated.  They want to to use this random third party agent (see below).  Looks a bit odd to me.  I'm thinking about removing that paragraph before sending it in.

"Third-Party Agent Designation
For the purpose of registering with the United States Government through the online System for Award
Management (SAM), I do hereby authorize Major Robertson, 408-418-8433, 900 E Main St. Floor 2, Louisville
KY 40206, Contact@SAM.Directory (Designated Third-Party Agent) to act on behalf of the Entity listed above.
This authorization permits the Designated Third-Party Agent to conduct all normal, common business functions
within SAM while binding the signatory to all actions conducted and representations made as a result of
authorization granted herein. I have checked the Third-Party Agent Designation box and completed the above
information to indicate that the designated Entity Administrator is a third-party agent." 


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Monday, March 22, 2021, 7:05:03 PM, you wrote:

 





I see most of the user fees process and documentation is part of the USAC election process.
Do I need to wait on the FCC approval before starting the USAC part of it?





- Original Message - 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


I am behind the eight ball on this.  Just submitted the application on the FCC website.  Haven't done anything with USAC nor
have I submitted any pricing information (or been asked) - - what should I expect next?
I thought Friday was the last day for "expedited" processing - - noticed today is the deadline.  Whopps.    At least I had planned
on doing it today. :)






- Original Message - 
From: Mark Radabaugh
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

For what it’s worth I said: 

"Details of all service offerings are available at https://www.amplex.net/residential-wireless and https://www.amplex.net/residential-fiber.   For historical information please see the Web Achive at: http://web.archive.org/web/20200406144022/https://www.amplex.net/.   Service plans and pricing available on December 1, 2020 are unchanged as of the date of this letter. “

and

"Please see our prior and current FCC form 477 filings for verification of our service areas and product offerings.  Our most recent filing covering 12/31/2020 was entered on 2/19/2021.”

I scanned a copy of our trifold brochure(s) with the service plans and attached those to the letter.

Approval came back an hour after I submitted it.

Mark
   





On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data. Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you offer a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier than a pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

Thoughts?


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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the cust

Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


Mark,

I gone though the application a few time to find where to change that.  Somehow, I keep missing it.  Do you recall what section it is in?


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Monday, March 29, 2021, 10:23:38 AM, you wrote:





I didn’t end up there.   

It requested the designated entity administrator which I set that to be myself, printed out the letter, had it notarized and sent it in.  

Mark





On Mar 29, 2021, at 9:37 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] EBB program 
Has anyone got as far as the SAM.GOV sign up for the EBB.  I'm almost done with the sign up and it wants me to submit a notarized letter that it generated.  They want to to use this random third party agent (see below).  Looks a bit odd to me.  I'm thinking about removing that paragraph before sending it in.

"Third-Party Agent Designation
For the purpose of registering with the United States Government through the online System for Award
Management (SAM), I do hereby authorize Major Robertson, 408-418-8433, 900 E Main St. Floor 2, Louisville
KY 40206, Contact@SAM.Directory (Designated Third-Party Agent) to act on behalf of the Entity listed above.
This authorization permits the Designated Third-Party Agent to conduct all normal, common business functions
within SAM while binding the signatory to all actions conducted and representations made as a result of
authorization granted herein. I have checked the Third-Party Agent Designation box and completed the above
information to indicate that the designated Entity Administrator is a third-party agent." 


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Monday, March 22, 2021, 7:05:03 PM, you wrote:

 





I see most of the user fees process and documentation is part of the USAC election process.
Do I need to wait on the FCC approval before starting the USAC part of it?





- Original Message - 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


I am behind the eight ball on this.  Just submitted the application on the FCC website.  Haven't done anything with USAC nor
have I submitted any pricing information (or been asked) - - what should I expect next?
I thought Friday was the last day for "expedited" processing - - noticed today is the deadline.  Whopps.    At least I had planned
on doing it today. :)






- Original Message - 
From: Mark Radabaugh
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

For what it’s worth I said: 

"Details of all service offerings are available at https://www.amplex.net/residential-wireless and https://www.amplex.net/residential-fiber.   For historical information please see the Web Achive at: http://web.archive.org/web/20200406144022/https://www.amplex.net/.   Service plans and pricing available on December 1, 2020 are unchanged as of the date of this letter. “

and

"Please see our prior and current FCC form 477 filings for verification of our service areas and product offerings.  Our most recent filing covering 12/31/2020 was entered on 2/19/2021.”

I scanned a copy of our trifold brochure(s) with the service plans and attached those to the letter.

Approval came back an hour after I submitted it.

Mark
   





On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data. Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you offer a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier than a pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

Thoughts?


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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier

Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


Has anyone got as far as the SAM.GOV sign up for the EBB.  I'm almost done with the sign up and it wants me to submit a notarized letter that it generated.  They want to to use this random third party agent (see below).  Looks a bit odd to me.  I'm thinking about removing that paragraph before sending it in.

"Third-Party Agent Designation
For the purpose of registering with the United States Government through the online System for Award
Management (SAM), I do hereby authorize Major Robertson, 408-418-8433, 900 E Main St. Floor 2, Louisville
KY 40206, Contact@SAM.Directory (Designated Third-Party Agent) to act on behalf of the Entity listed above.
This authorization permits the Designated Third-Party Agent to conduct all normal, common business functions
within SAM while binding the signatory to all actions conducted and representations made as a result of
authorization granted herein. I have checked the Third-Party Agent Designation box and completed the above
information to indicate that the designated Entity Administrator is a third-party agent." 


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Monday, March 22, 2021, 7:05:03 PM, you wrote:

 




 
I see most of the user fees process and documentation is part of the USAC election process.
Do I need to wait on the FCC approval before starting the USAC part of it?
 




- Original Message - 
From: CBB - Jay Fuller
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 5:59 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

 
I am behind the eight ball on this.  Just submitted the application on the FCC website.  Haven't done anything with USAC nor
have I submitted any pricing information (or been asked) - - what should I expect next?
I thought Friday was the last day for "expedited" processing - - noticed today is the deadline.  Whopps.    At least I had planned
on doing it today. :)
 
 




- Original Message - 
From: Mark Radabaugh
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

For what it’s worth I said: 

"Details of all service offerings are available at https://www.amplex.net/residential-wireless and https://www.amplex.net/residential-fiber.   For historical information please see the Web Achive at: http://web.archive.org/web/20200406144022/https://www.amplex.net/.   Service plans and pricing available on December 1, 2020 are unchanged as of the date of this letter. “

and

"Please see our prior and current FCC form 477 filings for verification of our service areas and product offerings.  Our most recent filing covering 12/31/2020 was entered on 2/19/2021.”

I scanned a copy of our trifold brochure(s) with the service plans and attached those to the letter.

Approval came back an hour after I submitted it.

Mark
    





On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data. Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you offer a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier than a pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

Thoughts?


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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.)  We shall
RC> see. 




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC&

Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

[Mark - Myakka Technologies]

Title: Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues


Adam,

Yes they were billed.

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Monday, March 22, 2021, 3:36:55 PM, you wrote:





So do you bill the customer or his employer?

On 3/22/2021 3:28 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues UPDATE

I couldn't take the whining and crying about the VPN being down.  Remote IT guys 100% sure it is my issue (must be blocking port 443).  Customer 100% I changed something. So, I gathered my testing equipment and headed on out.  Well both IT guy and customer never mentioned that the VPN appliance is connected to their router via a 100' CAT5e cable run on the floor across the house.  They did at least have it tape down in places.  When I tried to connect my notebook using the cable, I got no connection.  Pulled out the old CAT5 tester and only 3 or of 8 lit up.  Replaced the cable and guess what, VPN now working.


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Thursday, March 18, 2021, 1:37:08 PM, you wrote:





I'm working a very similar issue right now.  I think I have tracked it down to an issue with a single upstream connection, and it looks like it's doing something with fragmenting/dropping large packets.  Doing a packet capture, it looks like the VPN setup packet is about 2062 bytes in size, and it's not getting to the other end.  ICMP Packets will flow regardless of size (of course fragmenting)  If I route the traffic over any of my other upstreams, it works fine.  I have a ticket open with this upstream, but getting them to understand what the issue is has been cumbersome.
On 3/18/2021 12:27 PM, Dev wrote:




Do you have other customers with similar config/topology where you can test, maybe who hit the same VPN server? PCAP’s aside, VPN’s don’t usually like NAT and firewall changes, but you have to divide and conquer to track down VPN issues often because the error reporting is vague at best typically. 





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Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues 
Bill,

Well that is the issue.  Could be anything.  Been working fine since June.  I have many many more people using VPN's with no issues.

But there is an issue on her link.  This is a fiber link BTW.  Her Internet works fine.

Her IT guys have washed their hands of it, pushing it all on me.  Not sure how I'm going to figure it out being I don't know what appliance she is using yet.  Even when I get that info, I'll have no access to it.  Doubt they are going to give me admin privileges on their equipment.  Also, I don't get the opportunity to see what errors are showing up on server logs.




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Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:27:35 AM, you wrote:





I would suspect maybe segmentation issues. Sometimes segment boundaries can mess with a VPN.

bp

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I  have  a  customer  that  has  some type of VPN router device on our
system.   Her VPN isn't working anymore.  Her Internet is fine.  I did
a  packet  capture  for her IT guys and sent it to them.  Their answer
is  the  usual  "It's  your  ISPs fault".  I'm not a VPN expert, but I
attached the filtered packet dump.  Looks like things are talking back
and forth.  Any issues anyone can see?


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Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues


UPDATE

I couldn't take the whining and crying about the VPN being down.  Remote IT guys 100% sure it is my issue (must be blocking port 443).  Customer 100% I changed something. So, I gathered my testing equipment and headed on out.  Well both IT guy and customer never mentioned that the VPN appliance is connected to their router via a 100' CAT5e cable run on the floor across the house.  They did at least have it tape down in places.  When I tried to connect my notebook using the cable, I got no connection.  Pulled out the old CAT5 tester and only 3 or of 8 lit up.  Replaced the cable and guess what, VPN now working.


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Thursday, March 18, 2021, 1:37:08 PM, you wrote:





I'm working a very similar issue right now.  I think I have tracked it down to an issue with a single upstream connection, and it looks like it's doing something with fragmenting/dropping large packets.  Doing a packet capture, it looks like the VPN setup packet is about 2062 bytes in size, and it's not getting to the other end.  ICMP Packets will flow regardless of size (of course fragmenting)  If I route the traffic over any of my other upstreams, it works fine.  I have a ticket open with this upstream, but getting them to understand what the issue is has been cumbersome.
On 3/18/2021 12:27 PM, Dev wrote:




Do you have other customers with similar config/topology where you can test, maybe who hit the same VPN server? PCAP’s aside, VPN’s don’t usually like NAT and firewall changes, but you have to divide and conquer to track down VPN issues often because the error reporting is vague at best typically. 





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Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues 
Bill,

Well that is the issue.  Could be anything.  Been working fine since June.  I have many many more people using VPN's with no issues.

But there is an issue on her link.  This is a fiber link BTW.  Her Internet works fine.

Her IT guys have washed their hands of it, pushing it all on me.  Not sure how I'm going to figure it out being I don't know what appliance she is using yet.  Even when I get that info, I'll have no access to it.  Doubt they are going to give me admin privileges on their equipment.  Also, I don't get the opportunity to see what errors are showing up on server logs.

 


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Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:27:35 AM, you wrote:





I would suspect maybe segmentation issues. Sometimes segment boundaries can mess with a VPN.

bp

On 3/17/2021 7:50 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




I  have  a  customer  that  has  some type of VPN router device on our
system.   Her VPN isn't working anymore.  Her Internet is fine.  I did
a  packet  capture  for her IT guys and sent it to them.  Their answer
is  the  usual  "It's  your  ISPs fault".  I'm not a VPN expert, but I
attached the filtered packet dump.  Looks like things are talking back
and forth.  Any issues anyone can see?


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Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues


Bill,

Well that is the issue.  Could be anything.  Been working fine since June.  I have many many more people using VPN's with no issues.

But there is an issue on her link.  This is a fiber link BTW.  Her Internet works fine.

Her IT guys have washed their hands of it, pushing it all on me.  Not sure how I'm going to figure it out being I don't know what appliance she is using yet.  Even when I get that info, I'll have no access to it.  Doubt they are going to give me admin privileges on their equipment.  Also, I don't get the opportunity to see what errors are showing up on server logs.

  


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Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:27:35 AM, you wrote:





I would suspect maybe segmentation issues. Sometimes segment boundaries can mess with a VPN.

bp

On 3/17/2021 7:50 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




I  have  a  customer  that  has  some type of VPN router device on our

system.   Her VPN isn't working anymore.  Her Internet is fine.  I did

a  packet  capture  for her IT guys and sent it to them.  Their answer

is  the  usual  "It's  your  ISPs fault".  I'm not a VPN expert, but I

attached the filtered packet dump.  Looks like things are talking back

and forth.  Any issues anyone can see?





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Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] VPN issues


Adam,

No NAT, but yes on PPPoE, so smaller MTU.  ONT is already bridged.  Also, this was working fine since June 2020 and all of a sudden stopped working.



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Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 11:02:30 AM, you wrote:





I don't think the issue can be determined from that.
.but if both points can reach one another then it's pretty much always NAT/ALG issue, or an MTU issue.
Is there anything that would prevent this end user from sending and receiving 1500 byte packets?  PPPoE?  Tunneling of any sort?  There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but some devices (Sonicwall) don't participate in MTU discovery, or seem to ignore the path MTU.  That isn't "your fault" but you can probably fix it.
NAT stuff is harder to pin down, but for example we had someone who's VPN wouldn't work consistently through NAT on a UFiber Nano ONT, but when we bridged the ONT and moved NAT to a Mikrotik behind it magically everything worked.  

On 3/17/2021 10:50 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote:




I  have  a  customer  that  has  some type of VPN router device on our
system.   Her VPN isn't working anymore.  Her Internet is fine.  I did
a  packet  capture  for her IT guys and sent it to them.  Their answer
is  the  usual  "It's  your  ISPs fault".  I'm not a VPN expert, but I
attached the filtered packet dump.  Looks like things are talking back
and forth.  Any issues anyone can see?


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I  have  a  customer  that  has  some type of VPN router device on our
system.   Her VPN isn't working anymore.  Her Internet is fine.  I did
a  packet  capture  for her IT guys and sent it to them.  Their answer
is  the  usual  "It's  your  ISPs fault".  I'm not a VPN expert, but I
attached the filtered packet dump.  Looks like things are talking back
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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

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Mark,

Damn, didn't even think about web archive.  That's why your known as the smarter Mark.
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Friday, March 12, 2021, 6:08:46 PM, you wrote:





For what it’s worth I said:

"Details of all service offerings are available at https://www.amplex.net/residential-wireless and https://www.amplex.net/residential-fiber.   For historical information please see the Web Achive at: http://web.archive.org/web/20200406144022/https://www.amplex.net/.   Service plans and pricing available on December 1, 2020 are unchanged as of the date of this letter. “

and

"Please see our prior and current FCC form 477 filings for verification of our service areas and product offerings.  Our most recent filing covering 12/31/2020 was entered on 2/19/2021.”

I scanned a copy of our trifold brochure(s) with the service plans and attached those to the letter.

Approval came back an hour after I submitted it.

Mark
    





On Mar 12, 2021, at 2:42 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

That's something I dont like about the government using subscription data. Its dumb because it's not realistic, the customer defines that. If you offer a cheap 1Mbps plan, and a customer came from dialup, they're happier than a pig in shit with it, but does that mean its underserved?

On Fri, Mar 12, 2021, 11:47 AM Mark - Myakka Technologies <m...@mailmt.com> wrote:




USAC  wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available  on December 1, 2020".  I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can  give  them.   Pointer to website wouldn't help.  I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing.  Was
thinking  about  printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.)  We shall
RC> see. 




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC> We  got  our  FCC  approval  yesterday.   Going  to  do the USAC stuff
RC> tomorrow.  Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.

RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.

RC> Big  thing  for  me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
RC> higher  tier  plans.  I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
RC> detailed  sign-up  sheet  explaining  everything  about the plan.  I'm
RC> thinking  part  of  that  write up sheet will have some verbiage about
RC> automatically  downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 days.

RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?


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RC>> We are.  Just got through the first application/approval.

RC>> Randy Cosby
RC>> InfoWest



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RC>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka 
RC>> Technologies
RC>> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 9:09 AM
RC>> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC>> Just curious, who out there is looking at doing this?


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Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

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Title: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program


James,

There is no pricing info on a 477.  I just printed out a december invoice for each plan from a random customer.  I redacted the customers private information.  I sent it in today, We'll see how it goes.


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I thought they said that your most recent 477 filing was that evidence.
 
 
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To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program
 
USAC wants "Evidence that the provider had the same service offerings
available on December 1, 2020". I'm not sure what type of evidence I
can give them. Pointer to website wouldn't help. I don't think we
have ever filed any FCC or USAC paperwork that shows our pricing. Was
thinking about printing out a December invoice from random customers
for each plan and blanking out the customer info.

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Wednesday, March 10, 2021, 1:21:48 PM, you wrote:

RC> Still waiting for more clarity on the verification stuff. I can't seem to
RC> find straight answers yet and I believe that's because nobody really knows
RC> yet. I've heard from some that the customer prequalifies themselves. I've
RC> also read that we will have access to the "national verifier" but I'm not
RC> certain that is the "catchall" way to qualify people. I'm nervous that we'll
RC> have a bunch of different systems to deal with (national verifier, school
RC> lunch program, local school districts, state unemployment, etc.) We shall
RC> see. 




RC> -Original Message-
RC> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark - Myakka Technologies
RC> Sent: Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:50 AM
RC> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
RC> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] EBB program

RC> Randy,

RC> We got our FCC approval yesterday. Going to do the USAC stuff
RC> tomorrow. Going to be some overhead for us, but we have to do it.

RC> I think I can put it into our billing system (PLAT) fairly easy.

RC> Big thing for me is what we are allowed to do for non-payers on our
RC> higher tier plans. I know we are going to have to write up a fairly
RC> detailed sign-up sheet explaining everything about the plan. I'm
RC> thinking part of that write up sheet will have some verbiage about
RC> automatically downgrading to lowest tier if account is past due by 10 days.

RC> Have you looked at any of the verification stuff yet?


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RC>> We are. Just got through the first application/approval.

RC>> Randy Cosby
RC>> InfoWest



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RC>> Subject: [AFMUG] EBB program

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