[AsburyPark] Re: City Council Meetings Tonight - Agendas
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady james.keady@ wrote: II. Litigation a. Madison-Asbury Retail, LLC vs. City of Asbury Park Honeymoon is over I guess. That's why you need parking meter revenues, especially at night. 1. Pay for litigiation 2. Pay for police 3. Pay for Fire dept. anytime there was an event in AP - - at CH or Paramount, the promoter paid a fee in addition to rental. Find an old contract. Tax ticket sales over $25. 2.5% Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: I have an idea to add some revenues to those meters. Sell ads on them. not a bad idea, but not it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and most deals, to justify costs, raise the rate to what it's worth. Cape may: With the following exceptions, parking meters are in effect May 1 to October 31, every day, from 10:00 AM to 10:00 PM. All meters are 25 cents per fifteen minutes and stand-aolne meters only accept quarters. Multi-meters also accept credit cards. Change is available from several businesses and at beach tag sales booths, during the beach season. The City provides a five (5) minute grace period on all meters, before an overtime violation occurs. 1. Marketing: 25 cents per 15 minutes That eqauls $1.00 per hour. 2. Marketing: The city provides a five minute grace period. 3. Limited hours 10 am to 10 pm. AP should go into 2 am. in the zone. that's when the bars are crowded and the most services of the police are required. Pay for it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez, i went to a meeting for an hour and here is where we are. One major mistake is being made in these calculations. The best way to sum it up, those spaces are worth money - either to the city of Asbury Park or to a parking management investment fund. There's all different arguments about the value of a business that generates sales or the value of income producing property. Yes, every guy that calls up wants a 10% return. So do I. Actaully, if you speak to some harcore investors, they will ask why do only want a 10% return, what, you have no ambition...? But that was BEFORE the stock market tanked... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--put out a RFP (Request for Proposals) to bid for leasing and management rights of the City of Asbury Park Municpal Parking System which is any current approved pay to park stalls and additional paid parking stalls in the future. The succesful bidder shall also have the right to propose additional parking facilitiesat their expense Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a cold. I go see a doctor. He says I have a cold. Is he right because of who he is, what he does or what he's read? No. He's right because I do have a fucking cold. If he said I didn't have one, he'd be wrong, regardless of who he is, what he does or what he has read. If you knew you had a cold, why would you go to the doctor? To argue with him if he said you didn't? Or because you had no copayment or a low copayment and ahd to waste his time or to get a prescription because it's chepaer then buying over the counter? That's the system. If we had a cold when we were kids, it was chicken soup and St. Josephs and we still got told to get up and get moving. That's because the chicken soup, fat and all, is what worked. Never needed a doctor for that. You bump your head, chicken soup. You lost a game, chicken soup. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stick to real world terms - and your assumptions don't add up. You won't get an investor interested using them. different methods to different folks. If someone likes parking lots and future fees, it's different thena guy buying a four family house. Maybe there's a company that's more creative in parking management or promoting events. Events bring people to town. When people come to town, they park. So if you owned a company that had the rights to say 1500 spaces around a facility that can hold a concert for 4,000 people every day, you might co-sponsor a show or maybe put on fireworks every week to bring people to your business - those 1500 spaces.. Unless you know how the other guy actaully counts his money, never assume what's right for them. They'll fool you. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION? - THE MATH
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And investors might require a 15% return for a high risk like Asbury. and again, a creative company might get MORE, applying their knowledge and marketing to something so simple as a parking spot. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: So back to the budget and leasing Parking...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Let's put the whose right and wrong aside. Is that a good idea? yea. The City should produce the RFP and see what becomes of it. There's time and options. The City can say look at how much money we took in without really implementing the sytem 100% and not having the full knowledge of how to implement the system and public outcry of having to fifty cents and hour to park. And we also backed down because the developer complained we were charging Now take that parking revenue generated in a short time with a boardwalk only half open in the summer (closing in the summer at 9pm when most boardwalks are first getting running..) and run those numbers out How much would you pay today for that anticipated income stream. And add another factor in - $1.00 per hour peak season, then .50 hour all other times. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: So back to the budget and leasing Parking...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am going to let this discussion go for now in light of these thoughts. Thanks for providing, as usual, real world math. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Friends of Asbury Park: Jim congratulations and the people, like you or not, probably owe you some thanks for being being there and trying. I'm sure that new time you find not thinking about AP will wind up helping more people. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION?
Fun with numbers. Read this article from Chicago. Link at the end, Then call me. I'm playing the lottery tonight. Chicago has the same problem Asbury has. But AP doesn't have Oprah Obama nor Hillary - nor the Cubs. How much ARE they worth. Here's how you look at it and I'm sure Dan can add to it. A parking space is land. That is real estate. Land in a valued location is worth money. Land that can generate money is worth MORE money. http://www.reuters.com/article/bondsNews/idUSN0227950220081202 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park's Parking Meters Worth $37 MILLION?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: here's another read. Realize for once, that those parking spaces are GOLD. But don't take the money upfront, cause it would just get pissed away. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stepping Down from City Council
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H Who are you folks interested in seeing take that seat? seems like you have a full ticket there. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One of Madison Marquette's Parent Fund's Funders
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't look now, but one of the funds Anselm of Madison Marquette told me is a big investor in Capital Guidance, which owns MM, now faces billions in losses, according to today's Wall St. Journal. Good HW. Just follow the dotted lines. A wake up call again as with the rest of the world that jsut because someone gives you money doesn't mean they don't want something in return. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budgets ???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the AP Budget. 1. Maybe the mayor or city manager should stand up and say we are broke. Kind of like Arnold has repeated in California... Then once that is done take a step back and figure out what departments CAN generate revenue and see if they are actaully producing revenue. a) If not, why not? Look to fees and fines to generate revenues. Look to police dept to issue MORE tickets. Ocean Twp sits on the circle almost all day. Let an AP cop sit on the entrances to AP. Interlaken does it as does Allenhurst. Get out of date registrations and who knows what else you get. Look at the parking meters. How much are they generating TODAY as people still put money in...DO NOT GIVE this up. How are they going to address the accumulated sick time as shown in the budget someone posted? How much state aid will be available, how much is actually needed. Will there be tax appeals by regular property owners and other commercial property owners - like Partners has done successfully? Has Partners paid all they taxes, fees and reimbursements related to the development effort? Can the city start a hotel room tax or liquor tax? Do you really think will make a difference to the final bill? If so then the owners may hav to take the little bump.. So how do handle a budget on a city that cannot generate enough revenues to cover their operations. And don't forget, taxpayers also contribute little to a $100m school budget. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One of Madison Marquette's Parent Fund's Funders
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't look now, but one of the funds Anselm of Madison Marquette told me is a big investor in Capital Guidance, which owns MM, now faces billions in losses, according to today's Wall St. Journal. Really...check the dotted lines. They often rate a cirlceCherokee to MM... Like: It also would help the development in Camden, said Anselm Fusco, Cherokee's senior vice president of development. It will create enthusiasm in the marketplace and enhance home buyers' perception of all the projects, Fusco wrote in response to questions. ... Fusco said Cherokee felt the plan strikes a good balance between preservation and redevelopment but was open to changes, provided they addressed economic realities - a sentiment echoed by Pennsauken's township administrator, Robert Cummings. ...Anselm Fusco, Cherokee's senior vice president of development, reported that preliminary investigations have found 500,000 gallons of petroleum products in the soil of Petty's Island that are leaking into the Delaware River. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Budgets ???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jwkeady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak, As per your comments and questions below, I figured you would of. You get it. I'm an indirect taxpayer and almost a real taxpayer. Stay tuned. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: One of Madison Marquette's Parent Fund's Funders
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, radio881gal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak - So Fusco worked for Cherokee before? I am surprised. He doesn't strike me like someone with a long history in the business. So what's the deal with Cherokee. We never hear about them, even though they own or did own 50% of the partners. We've never heard a peep out of them. Any ideas on that? Maureen The Internet reveals alot with minimal free research. Those blurbs were from Zoom came across while searching for something else. http://www.zoominfo.com/people/Fusco_Anselm_406998076.aspx I guess you have someone you can ask that question of. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: redevelopement... college paper
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are many college students who have written on that same topic over the years. I'd love to see them all together some day. Would be fun to compare and contrast their thoughts. Let's sponsor a symposium. Put together a panel. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Ten Things About Last Night in AP
1. It was tough to fine parking at 8:30 2. See# 1. A reason to have the meters in force - at least at NIGHT. 3. Bagpipes practicing in CH Aracde were deafening. Finally parked to check out what the 100 gifts were aroiund 9pm. Roller Derby going on. The really nice tree that was killed looled real good. But I don't get WHY if you have all the people in once place - would you ahve the 100 gift idea shop CLOSED as was Baker Boys ( I thought it would be neat to get a hot chocolate and cake after dinner at Kleins in Belmar..). 4. When you have a place and events going on, THATS when you should be OPEN. Wehn we were on the boards, we OPEN when you had crowds of peoplem not closed. Go figure. 5. Headed back over to the Watermark. Great crowd and really one of the best, if not THE BEST spots on the jersey shore to relax - other then martells or the chelsea in AC. 6. Even when the fire alarms went off last night at the Watermark - no one moved. Ok. Think STUPID. NO ONE moved. MAtter of fact, someone started dancing to the beat of the alarm and people were clapping. Right before that, my wife wanted to know where all the exits were. Te alarm went on and off a couple times then finally stopped. Only a couple people went out on the deck (like us), the rest jsut sat around. While no one wants to lose their seat - it could be a good way to die had it been a real emergency. Better look like an asshole running out the door.. and management maybe should of had everyone get up and go. Maybe. I don't know. 7. See #1. The fire department and police. Police patrolling all parked cars and FD at CH and wound up at watermark. THIS is a reason why you need to charge for parking and COLLECT TAXES. It's not FREE. 8. Great hit drink experiment at W MArk they came up with. Made the mrs happy... 9. Check out kleins in Belmar. Dinner for two during the week $40, including a bottle of wine. 3 course meal. Sat night, wine bottle was half price - so you pay about what u would in a liq store. 10. Best advice last night received. Table next to us 3 old people We said they looked happy. It was one of the ladies 95th birthday and she was munching on lobster on fries (no salt). I asked her how and she said just go and have fun.. ? what was the bagpipers for in CH last night? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] lights..
the one thing that obsructs the Ocean view from the Watermark - the street lights on the boardwalk Drive down main st in Avon. While the idea was neat - the lights are ugly and overpowering- the globes blind you. Drive down ocean ave through allenhurst. simple period lights. Rt 33/corlies - they make the road wider, add lower street lightsing of a period but the highway lighting remains. like that in lots pf places. Should be one or the other. The technology is here. Check out the edison style lights in the watermark along the wall. neat. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Low Lights
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't tell anyone about mr c's. That has the best bar view of the ocean... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Pros and Cons-Stella Marina
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Debbie DeLisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Our waitress told us that on Monday nights she will be offering a price fixe dinner which includes appetizer, dinner and dessert for $25. After our busy weekends we agreed that this is where we will be unwinding on Monday nights. Hope to see you there. Gret when you're single or don't have to pay the billor aren't taking a couple teenage kids around. Good thing they raised the drinking age to 21. At least my daughter can drink a beer... $25 plus booze... Just have to bite the bullet or pick up a nice chunk of filet mignon or one chicken to make soup AND dinner.. or about 20 lbs of chopmeat. Or jsut sit back and relax and recall the Dancing Chicken in Martell's old arcade where . I'm looking for a picture of that game. And I might of tracked one down. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many rooms there are in other towns and what level of supply would be too much. Does anyone have any insight on this topic? dan Enough rooms that owners want to buy more or add on... You can go to AC in the summer and not get a room or get one, but pay out the nose or today, drive down Rt 30 toards the marina disrict - and see rooms from abou $29 sun-thursday... or get free rooms in the hotels or $79 rooms at the casinos... I was in hollywood fl got a room via price at a hyatt place... via priceline cheap. YOu need a mix, a choice. The problem is, you need the land to build it on. Would a 25 story hotel work? That's grand. Would a 100 room family hotel work? Right now having extra hotel rooms is not the problem. That's my thoughts for what it's worth. Throw a holiday express or other simple style hotel and you have alomst the whole shore to draw from - steps to the beach... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: depends on the cost of the land and what you can build. That's why, looking at the purchase of the Berk, given all the other factors to rehab they did ok buying it. Again, given all the factors around it. Like Location. Opp for liquor and other services they can have there. Banquets etc. And for some reason that place seems to be haunted as well thorugh the years. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any data source that compiles Condo rentals offered in the City? Werner Me. Next week . Lots on the market from $1100 up. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the $ question, what would the city allow you to do by zoning? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hotels and BB's
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its a good solid building - seems they spent too much on frills and are now cutting back on basic service. Werner Opportunity. How they deliver is another issue. The place seems to be serving THEIR purposes. Be nice to see a responsbile chain / operator really manage it and run it, market it etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Thanks for picking up on the word brilliantly... The old ads are a piece of history themselves. AP was one of THE destinations. Imagine if there were hotels or motels for people to say at once they came in for entertainment. Especially FREE entertainment combined with the paid entertainement. Which goes back to whoever posted about their weekend condo and coming down for the weekend and going to dinner once... While that is great and doesn't impact the schools or real services of everyday AP (therefore the taxes paid aren't used) - it doesn't do much for the guy in town on a daily basisand an example of how many condos will be used. But, someone can say that those part-timers will spend MORE money when they are in town then those full0time residents. T or F? Mosquito free AP (another old ad) AP had no marsh lands... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the simplest, and most obvious attraction to AP it's music scene? Why just have ONE (type) attraction to bring people in? More people in town for MORE reasons, year round = more people spending more money. Disaster Tourism. Ever go to universal and go on the earthquake ride (think they changed the name) There's a hundred angles you can go with this. Start simple. Some memorial and few notes about the mystery of the Morro and the scandals that followed it. Put it this way. If the Titanic sunk off the coast of AP, there probably would of been no movie of it or no memorial. In the mid-1980s, HBO television aired a dramatization of the fire in their Catastrophe series, called The Last Voyage of the Morro Castle. In 2002, the AE television network made a documentary about the incident. . --- Despite the fascinating tragedy and mystery of the Morro Castle Disaster, no film for theatrical distribution nor even a television movie was made of the story. However there have been references to it. In the 1938 film Boy Meets Girl, James Cagney (in dictating a letter to Pat O'Brien regarding what a third person is supposed to be saying to his missing wife) says, I did not go down on the Morro Castle! And at the conclusion of the 1935 Spencer Tracy film Dante's Inferno a gambling cruise ship (resembling the Morro Castle) is completely ablaze. The 1944 movie Minstral Man also features the fire and sinking of the Morro Castle. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but unless you are a history buff, or a local, how many people would actually take the time to visit just for the Morro Castle? True to an extent. You need BIG things like BIG entertainment and little things like regular free entertainment and something as simple as a plaque. AP kept the morro around for a couple years then because people wanted to see it sitting there. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A New Board Walk Brilliantly Illuminated By Electricity to Dawn
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oak is that really an ad for AP from 1903? The lights were Brilliantly Illuminated until dawn? I'll post it tomorrow. BUT, like werner said, they weren't glaring back then (who really knows...what people felt then, remember, they had meetings to discuss the noise coming the ferris wheel house...) No AC, so they wanted to stay out late and sleep on the beach when it was really hot... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right, AP is an attraction when music events are in town. Without them, it would be more of a ghost town. and come the spring and summer people will be complaing there's not enough parking, they had to wait to eat, they saw two men holding hands, the water park water was cold etc... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A New Board Walk Brilliantly Illuminated By Electricity to Dawn
--- not a drowning accident in its thrity years' existence as a seaside resort.. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A New Board Walk Brilliantly Illuminated By Electricity to Dawn
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also think you are missing the point that the lighting was a novelty back then. Solar. The figuring out how to produce it cheap as is LED lighting. Go Green but make it affordable. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Logic ????
The north end of the Long Branch hsa nice lighting as well as do alot of the other boardwalks now. OG is good Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The ad with the lighting from 1903...
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[AsburyPark] Re: The ad with the lighting from 1903...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/ads/intro.htm The ad doesn't show up using Firefox instead of IE. what version. Im on firefox now on a mac with a windows IE next to me. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The ad with the lighting from 1903...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I must say though, AP is surprisingly mosquito free. I don't think I've ever encountered one since moving here. Ok, I've told this one before From about 1977 on, there was no reason for even the mosquitos to come here for. Why, if you were a mosquito would you bother, when you can go north to Deal or South to the bikini's in Belmar and find a nice...to take a bite of? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday STAFF REPORT NOVEMBER 25, 2008 This year, Christmas trees, wreaths and garlands and and and move over tommy. What would a johnson know about hanukkah... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The ad with the lighting from 1903...
--- http://www.asburyboardwalk.com/ads/intro.htm try again dan. I jsut upgraded to Firefox 3.4 on a PC that old running and it worked. I'll email you. At this age I can't troubleshoot any more. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- Christmas is good for the Jews who are in the retail and manufacturing business so yes it's a jewish holiday Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park plans tree-lighting for Sunday
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm I am not sure where this news aired from, but my first question would be: Should we really be out there singing: On the First Day of Christmas, Ma-Tola-Gave-To-Us, a Christmas Tree inside the Car-Rou- Sel? it's on the owner's property, not public. It's the season and real smart they can turn the arcade into a shopping/entertainment center - in December. And it should be good for downtown, who has to learn and take advantage of the boardwalk draw and feed off of it. That's FREE marketing for the downtown and the rest of the city. Learn to capitalize on it. A guy once had a pizzeria. He first complained that McDonalds moved across the street (must of meant he was in a good spot, right). He thought it would hurt his business. In the long run, his business increased and he gained additional parking from the lot and additional traffic get it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stone Pony Closing for Repairs....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now thats a shame its one of the only authentic music venues left. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: HAve you ever been in there?? now that my daughter has been there, I've warned her to be by a door. It needs some work. It IS a draw and will continue to be a draw. Just needs some work. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Friday night at Watermark then Sellas...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Followed your lead Oak and went to both places last night. So, based on EXPERIENCE, I comment that yes, the boardwalk is better. Werner has seen it from his time period here. I've seen it from pre- werner as well as have others. There's words you are not supposed to use in advertising, - ultimate (ultimatetest...), new and improved (newer and more improved..), more ultimate then before, The Boardwalk is better. It's a phrase that can always be used. Better then 1970? Better then 1985, 1990, 1995, 2000, 2005? Yes, at least from what I recall. I don't know if it was better then 1900, or 1940. From what I read, probably not. But it's a phrase. My son is 15 now. To him, it's better and same for my daughter. It's better. Are the lights bright? Yes. CH is open, has events, stores etc. Maybe not hundreds of events etc - but, it's open, the city isn't paying for it, people come there, it feels pretty safe and looks the best I've ever seen it growing up here, from what I can remember. The guys from GM, ford and Chrysler all flew in on private jets. Ok, PR blunder. MM thought they can get things done quicker in AP or maybe came up with other, cost effective ideas or got lost in the time warp of speed in Asbury or are positoning themseleves for other things. They HAD to get stuff open to generate income. See what happens Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Auto Industry and AP...
Read it for the fun of it. You don't realize all the showrooms that were once in AP. But read this one. Money is only loaned to a man, William Crapo Durant once said. He comes into the world with nothing and he leaves with nothing. Billy Durant came into the world in Boston with not even a loan. Raised in Flint, Mich., he quit school at 17. By selling patent medicine, cigars, insurance and borrowing from friends, he scraped up enough to join a fellow clerk in buying out a carriage factory for $2,000. Through his prodigious energy and salesmanship (he could coax a bird out of a tree) the company acquired 14 plants by 1904. Durant's Blue Ribbon carriages became the Fords of a horse-drawn world. The company overinvested in bicycles, lost out. Unperturbed, Durant got control of the tottering Flint Wagon Works, sold $10,000,000 worth of stock to exploit its rights to manufacture a horseless carriage, designed by David Buick. He made millions in a few years, laid grandiose plans to take over the lusty young auto industry. He almost did, by merging five companiesHenry Ford was the most important holdoutinto General Motors. In the panic of 1910 Durant lost control of G.M. Unfazed, he started manufacturing a car called the Chevrolet. Quietly he bought back 40% of G.M.'s stock (with the help of the Du Ponts) and walked into a G.M. board meeting with his pockets bulging with stock certificates. Imperiously he announced: Gentlemen, I control this company. As Walter P. Chrysler later said: It was like Napoleon's return from Elba. In the post-World War I slump, G.M. stock slipped from $400 to $12. Durant spent an estimated $90,000,000 trying to bolster it before he finally lost control of G.M. for good. He founded Durant Motors, aiming to start a new G.M. But this time it was no go. He piled up another fortune by playing the stockmarket, but the 1929 crash virtually wiped him out. Later, he went into bankruptcy, listing $250 (the clothes on his back) as his only assets. He still had his chipper spirits. But his Midas touch was gone. In 1936 he turned up in Asbury Park, N.J. as a lunchroom and supermarket owner. He plugged a dandruff cure on the side, operated a bowling alley in Flint. He still talked grandly of making a pile. But it was too late. Last week, in his eight-room apartment in Manhattan, Billy Durant, 85, died. Of the millions he had been loaned he left nothing. March 1947 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Local Irish legend dies
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So long, singer man. it brings back days at the avon inn the simple life. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] MM uses facebook to communicate with residents...and open dialouge
http://www.globest.com/news/1229_1229/washington/173440-1.html but not yet in AP... Imagine. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
It was given to AP years ago and some creative historian may have already suggested, but I don't know There isn't a Morro Castle display, memorial, replicas (in the works...), etc watch for them soon. Would be interesting to have that some place on the boardwalk. The real history of AP's real glory days or gay days lay around just waiting for someone else to trip over them. Not many towns have such documented history hidden away. Add to that AP's undocumented history... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Why is it we miss a simple attraction to AP???
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doesn't Ms. Harris' place on the boards have much of the history on the walls and in books? That's it? How about something a bit more dramatic. There's a whole mystery behind the Morro C. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] A New Board Walk Brilliantly Illuminated By Electricity to Dawn
I think the ad was from 1903. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Liquor....
One of the old laws was that intoxicating liquor couldn't be sold within one mile of Wesley Lakein 1903. They kind of keep with that now. It's hard to get intoxicated with little drinks and high prices. Lakehouse... an ok dive bar Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Need Some Information
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, johnnie and darryl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone suggest of a good place to advertise for apartment rental? Friends, family, where you work Sometimes those are the worst tenants. Try there. This board. A sign out front works best depending where you are. Sometimes it's a bonus if you live there as well. Be competitive in your price and try to be more flexible then the next guy. Losing one or two months in rent isn't any fun. Good luck Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: , but there are no links to it on the city's site, i didn't see a link on the ap.net site, not on asburyboardwalk.com, etc actually I noticed I didn't even have link link working and no, I don t have them as a link. Also, somewhere along the way I deleted some other good links to AP. If they got rid of the flash intro, it would be alot better. Their site is built off a canned template that was modified - but they are now The Official site of THE boardwalk... Maybe I ahve to add the words the UNoffical site of the the boardwalk... Actually, the boardwalk and rest of ap. Without press releases or emails or the time or any barters or paid ads it works for me. If you haven't done so already, (I've said this before) go see noweverthen.com - the BEST overall history of ALL of AP - for now. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Friday night at Watermark then Sellas...
Quick note: Watermark very neat upstairs. Gret fireplace anc chairs. Kind of tough with yet even smaller glass for those cosmos with belevedere coming in at $12.50. Maybe a 6oz glass. No food there from stellas, so we walked across to the stella's and had a pie and salad. Beer at Watermark $5.00 Had a good crowd eating there service from klitchen was a bit slow, but that can be expected. Just need bigger martini glasses or someone else to buy the drinks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stone Pony Closing for Repairs....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lightgrw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are a lot of music fans who would agree with this idea... save the bar and whatever you can and the front and side walls. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Friday night at Watermark then Sellas...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: flask economy! I can't do that. She can. I don't think there is a real dance floor - yet - the outside decks will be real nice i the summer. Excellent furniture. nice leather couches all around. Fireplace. Yes, $20 for 2. Trying to teach her to drink beer. Or flirt. Love the setting. 30 years ago we were on the roof there drinking beer. Bring back the digger Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Knock, Knock...Hellooo....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The topic of gays and straights accomodating one another is an Asbury Park topic, because The List excludes stright people. I bought up the topic: 1. since ap is gay friendly 2. since there are intelligent people on the board that can address the issue from BOTH sides. I thought it was related. And I think the condition of the markets directly impact the city budget redevelopmetn and more. READ the link to the Pennslvania PERS and their decision to invest $125m in the MM Retail Enhancement Fund. My read is that it was a blind investment and if not used , does it have to be returned? OK, There. AP related as it has to do with MM. Got a real response? Bait. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Knock, Knock...Hellooo....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: didn't say it HAD to be returned, but IS there that possibility? This is the Penn Retirement Systems summary of their decision to invest in the MM Retail Enhancement Fund. http://www.psers.state.pa.us/org/board/resolutions/2007/madison.pdf They way I read it, MM was looking at an 18% Internal Rate of Return (IRR). If you really understand the purpose of IRR, then you good for you. This is the document. I'm curious to here your and other people with an underestanding of investments like this and what the MM Retail Enhancement Fund MIGHT be obiligated to do and if they have even tapped into the monies from this fund, or by reading the doc, it looks like MM had to put up $60m of their own money. $60m seems to be the number being thrown around. It look like from the rad that Wells Fargo was also to be or was a contributor to this fund. Your thoughts? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: I Shop Brooklyn Campaign
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ishopAP http://www.ishopbrooklyn.com/ BK has a bit more to offer and alot more residents with disposable income... Bring it back to AP, MM has a nice billboard when you come off the circle onto Asbury Ave - advertising their holiday bazar, live music etc. AP needs more stores that the general population will want to shop in ADDITION to the boutiques already in town. The largest landholder with the most experience and maybe the capital at this point in time - Madison M. It maybe time to throw on the lingerie and do what you have to do to make them spend the money while they still have it. Hate to see the honeymoon come to an end. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Knock, Knock...Hellooo....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, BlackRock Realty and the Harvard Endowment are two of the most sophisticated alternative investment investors in the world. And Blackrock was the darling of the street. But like the rest of the now public co's (and don't look real hard why they went public) from their high of around 250 or more, they are now around 100 and have alot of issues in their closet. But thanks for adding some expert advice on what that really means. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Knock, Knock...Hellooo....
--- so what do we have a BUY on CSCO and BLK for long term? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Remember AP once was going to build a minor leauge stadium... Going to build. The operative words. I kind of recall the arguments against it who would come what if it didn't work why the ocean front (the wind, the rain etc...) the traffic waste of space Wasn't it supposed to be around the empress? Tom? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Client's vision for a NY pier
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://curbed.com/archives/2008/11/20/bids_for_hudson_river_park_tourist _trap_unveiled_again.php#more Vison AND money AND track record = a real developer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
a) invested in a condo in AP b) invested in Ford stock c) disney stock Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Law,....
1) E-harmony sued so they HAVE to promote Gay match/date making. How does this impact other sites and/or businesses? 2. In court today with my kid. forgot to get her provisonal lic switched over to 18 year old.. They cut out to Freehold closed circuit to talk to prisoners. This one was in jail for NOT paying her pervious fine of about $500... a) SHE recevied a CREDIT of $50/day for BEING IN jail . She got 8 days at $50/day = $400 CREDITED to her fine. Forget that fact that it costs the taxpayers to house the immate, let alone give them CREDIT for being IN jail. Wasn't there some point where the immate was to reimburse for the costs of the hotel? The system. Why send people back for immigration when many (not all cases in WLB) were here for having no registration, insurance, nj licensce etc etc . and were paying their fines and rushing back to WORK. People should really not bitch about being an American and having all the rights they do here. One guy in there did a flooring job for me. Good guy, works hard and I knew it took him twice to get to America because he WANTED to work. Everyone chuckled at his kansas driver's license... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about Sirius XM, currently at a whopping 15 cents a share? I still get AM on free sirius capable radio that came with the car and the kids loaded it up with music from their ipods, which plug right in... a fancy radio. When I was 17, that catalina had am/fm and speakers in the read window... fund if you want to go to e-street or christian or grateful dead... And bench seats. You can put that .50 you save from the AP meters and buy it for the fun of it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: $10,000 today is what in 5 years if....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about Sirius XM, currently at a whopping 15 cents a share? I still get AM on free sirius capable radio that came with the car and the kids loaded it up with music from their ipods, which plug right in... a fancy radio. When I was 17, that catalina had am/fm and speakers in the read window... fund if you want to go to e-street or christian or grateful dead... And bench seats. You can put that .50 you save from the AP meters and buy it for the fun of it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I saw that. That's really awful. Well - I'm off to the vegan restaurant to insist they cook me a cheeseburger. Or I'll sue. Thanks. that's the way I see it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] $500,000 price reduction!!
Again. 704-720 Mattison Ave. 30,000 sq ft new price $2,999,000 That's $100 sq ft. unique investor opportunity in the redevelopment of Asbury Park... Tremendous Potential Multi uses Taxes: $14k Gas: $21k Ins:$25k Water/sewer:$2k Electric: $20k And no parking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what about gaydate.com ? should they be forced to show man seeking woman or woman seeking man Or because the word gay is there enough... This is all Tommy's area. I was just looking at it from the Internet side and the words or owner's intent of a publication. What about the hispanics or or or or Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No: They are GAYdate by name. so? eHarmony is not gay by name, so you therefore assume it's a straight site and not open to a lawsuit? it's not jewish by name either nor african american by name. If you walk into a clothing store that caters to straight people or walk into one that caters to gay men by means of advertising... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Law,....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the whole discussion highlights the complexities of labeling. Personally, I think it's sad that labels like gay and lesbian cause so much tension for people. or maybe it's the law, the system or the attorney and their plantiff. I sat in court with my daughter today for around three hours. Two people collided. One hit the other in the rear (with their car). One was accused of drunk driving , refused Breath A, Blood test etc. The other driver who was hit, was also drunk, but not legally. Everyone (all the witnesses) because they were injured...all had back or neck pains - but no one really had a driver's license. The American Legal System. Because we are a free country and EVERYONE has a right. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Xtra Xmas tree?
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, martin_kerri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody out there have a spare x-mas tree? The Bike Church wants they were around 75% off at linen's and things that not enough people wanted last week... unless you're looking for a real one. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just Waded Through...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Over 400 postings - Most of it BS (religion, poitics, arguing) I looked forward to a HUGE improvement on my next visit. HEre's an improvement - Stella Marina opened and Lagosta. Before all this bs, lagosta to me (and tommy) was Martell's arcade, then Bob Asay's shop for building his great boats because the pavillons were falling down (actually crumbling). First ave pav was an arcade, me with dogs/pizza etc (then HV's), Kohrs and Criterion ad bathrooms for the public. The casino was boarded up, the boardwalk caving in the empress a whore house cookman boarded up, CH not a beer nor cosmo in sight more hookers on kingsley then people on the boardwalk and you really had to have balls to drive around first. second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh ave... you had to make sure youhad a spare tire not if, but when you got a flat driving down ocean ave, wipe away the fear tog et out and change the tire. but there was always a good samaritan looking for a coffee at 1am to change it for you,,, Sure the city over the years (not just since Partners or MM) had every huckster and REAL developers come to town only to walk away. They either were shook down so bad, realized that business had to be done a certain way or people had no f'in clue So today you might have what the experienced over the years see - improvement in a certain way that we either like or hate. How much improvement will you see by next summer? List what you'd like to see Let's start simple, like plant grass on all the vacant lots in the redevelopment zone. Nothing fancy. you don't eve have to plant it. Just throw the seeds down. And on the budget - kind of hard to do a budget when you know off the start you have NO (not enough) money coming in and obligations up the rear...maybe the cty should auction off all their archives of old plans that were REAL for Cookman ave, the boardwalk... Maybe go plead to the feds that they need some of that $70 billon in loans for to cover mismangement and everything elseGM, FORD and CHRYSLER should be one - American Motors (recal AMCand the gremlin? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just Waded Through...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great post Oak... Those specifics -- I remember them all. And the biggest way to tell it has changed...my wife ASKS ME to go to the boardwalk and my daughter no longer asks if she could go climb around the haunted hojo's or for dark scary rides PAST that clown thingy and what was then dark, foggy unlit nights with the doors locked. THAT was my kids memories of the palace and boardwalk... SO the other day when wife and I were having that escarole and bean soup at Stella, my wife called my daughter and said you have to come down to the boardwalk and get some soup...in Asbury,,,on the boardwalk...by the casino... You see, it took me 25 years from the time I first had her on the boardwalk and the palace for her to finally get her it): We can bitch and moan all we want but some people are risking their budgets to make something happen. And in Stella on sunday afternoon while it was quiet, there was something unique there - parents with kidsin Asbury. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Just Waded Through...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and lasty (I promise for now) a couple weeks ago I was away for the weekend and called my daughter around 9:30 pm where are you,,,? What are you doing on the boardwalk walking the dog with jay... Then she told me later that as they walked in the casino, her friend got spooked out, but it was so lit up.. so my daughter told her friend about city by the sea and in the movie it was a drug den etc and a place for crack dealers..now she's a loud kid. As they walked through, there were two people on the beach by the casino firing up a crack pipe (so she said..). It can happen anywhere - lights, no lights, night, day. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] It can't get any lower....but is MM's fund guarenteed by the US GOV??
as the market drops another 400+ points. Here's a question or a thought... Is Madison Marquette's Retail Enhancement Fund safe or backed by the us gov? Consider this- ..some of the national investors in the fund are ColoradoSers, OhioSers, PennsylvaniaSers and ...Wells Fargo. The SERS are State or School Employee Retirement Systems - nationall with trillons in assets because look at all the teachers working every week and saving... 1. From the Ohio SERS site: Amid Latest Market Turmoil, SERS Pensions Are Safe (9/26/08) - SERS wants to reassure its members and retirees that in these challenging economic times, SERS retirees' pensions are safe and secure for the following reasons: A SERS pension is guaranteed by Ohio law (section 3309.661 of the Revised Code) and cannot be reduced due to investment losses. SERS' investments are diversified and investment performance does not hinge on any one investment or on any one firm's success or failure. SERS takes a long-term approach to investments; this long-term approach will help us weather challenging financial times. Recently, you may have heard politicians and financial experts say that during times of economic crisis pensions are at risk, with no distinction between public and private pensions. However, your SERS public pension is not at risk. Then there's more from the National State Pension folks...http://tinyurl.com/6ju7ol But even as recent as that article is written, it's outdated as the scams generated by almost every major bank and publicly traded bankrupt company comes undone How could it be that one day, Citigroup was going to buy other banks, then a few weeks later whoops we have to lay off 50,000 plus? At least Bush was able to drive the gas prices down, right? So next summer, if the prices remain as they are, all those folks from western monmouth will be able to afford to come to Asbury and Pay to park those SUVs in a metered spot - if they can find one. With gas prices so low, MM should be hoping they have enough parking spaces ... now people will travel once again by automobiles to the refreshing beaches of Asbury Park...and be glad to deposit by cash or credit card a minimal amount in modern parking meters...for the luxury of being entertained by the boardwalk, sand and water... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] more on the fund...
Very interesting (maybe boring for some), but from this read, $60m (that number again) seems that was MM.s money, then this pension system, Jan 2007, kicked in $125m (25%). Dan would be the best to comment I guess. http://www.psers.state.pa.us/org/board/resolutions/2007/madison.pdf Some of their analyis on the economy and commercial vacancy rates from today's view, is off. That coincides with numbers on the commercial side predicting higher vacany rates even on commercial spaces. Like MM, I have a client with a shopping center half full, current tenants in a panic. They are ready to offer one year free rent to get new business in and/or a piece of the business. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Park...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DUH- Apparently there are professionals who work for their client... Years back, some people got out of leases because the buildings they were in were had structural defects.. The Casino and CH were two of them Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: more on the fund...
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you don't want them to leave town, otherwise you might wind up with the old beer banner signs that graced the buildings on the boardwalk... Very curious though on the terms of investments in the fund. There could be a clause whereby the funds invested less fee are returned if certain conditions are not met. If that is the case, then MM has to have their own contingency plans. Hopefully, they won't pull it's their fault... it didn't work. That one has been used before - sometimes right, sometimes not. If they don't have a plan for The Wesley end of town - the link between Cookman and Boardwalk then what? Look at who else has invested in their funds - where are they todaythemselves running for cover. HOV can't move. If you read that recommendation to invest in the fund, MM was looking at an IRR (Internal rate of return - which I still have a hard time understanding) is 18%. In the end, it all depends. Everyone should be thakful they had great weather this summer. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Web Sites That Dig for News Rise as Watchdogs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lots of those independent news sites are well funded special interest run. But, that's the ease of publication / low cost of entry and ability to instantly draw people to your thoughts with good pr and a few more $. Give asburyradio a $1m budget and I bet Maureen would love you or other aspiring journalists and historians etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] We need an AP version....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/bw/20081117/bs_bw/0847b4109090693045 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: We need an AP version....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: == An AP version? No thanks. With a Hollywood clientele, Lewis is the glitziest member of the speculator class that swarmed the market during the boom, figuring it could make a fast buck on any property. The rapid-fire purchases of speculators helped spur housing to unsustainable heights But it happened here... without alot of glamor. I think I read 2005 showed 425,000 speculator purchased homes, last year 40,000. I'm sure those nunmbers are far, far off but does show the guts of the problem. It belongs with all the other get rich shows. I'd call it the Hard work show. It's where you and you're partner (friend (boy/girl), spouse, signifigant other etc...) buy an old house for yourself and learn how to paint and everything else YOURSELF. Where there are no product placements or ads...where you sleep in the kitchen because you have no bedroom floor or ceiling and you don't have the money to finish... where you get stuck on a ladder 20 feet up cause or scared to death with a hammer in your hand... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: We need an AP version....
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then there's guru Suze Orman. The docu Maxed Out implies that she's got a deal with Fair Isaac Corp. (FICO). Her critics claim she touts FICO scores because of that--despite those scores being unreliable. I dunno. They stepped in the correct pile and actaully believe in what they say or their writers give them... and so do the people who watch them or buy their books. Step one in getting rich Never BUY a get rich book. Go to the library or bookstore and read it. How rich were these get rich advisors or personal wealth advisors BEFORE they started talk taking people's money? Cramer earned money, then made tons more with partnerships, then: 8/21/2007 Thanks to his daily CNBC show Mad Money, Jim Cramer has become the chief cheerleader for the bull market, or what was the bull market until a few weeks ago. Last spring, he was giddily exhorting the Dow Jones Industrial Average ($INDU) toward 15,000, with no troubles in sight. Earlier this month (NOTE @), as the Dow tumbled in the direction of 13,000, he had an on-air meltdown, complete with screaming, sobs and predictions of financial doom -- maybe the AP Yahoo group should go live on cable Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] MM and the $60 or $160 or $500m
--- we're once again counting someone else's money or thinking. 1. HOw much is their cut of each sale to rent? How much per drink? Sell enough booze on the boardwalk and around town and you can do ok- as long as you draw people in. MM has an incentive to bring people to their side of town - they have to empty everyone's wallet. 2. AS far as what they spent to buy Kush out, that could become a lingering qusstion. They have to sell those units or think about renting them out if they don't move more of them to acount for being the top bidder of Kush property by a pretty good number. Fromt he looks of it, Kush got out ok, but who knows? No one really nows the real deal int he partnership. ALl I know is if someone gives you money to invest, the goal is to provide a return. Otherwise, you're thinking like rest of america using credit cards and home equity- it ain't my money so let's party. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I saw people putting money into the meters all weekend. Recently, I saw signs on some of the meters pointing out that the fee was suspended, IF the merchants were so concerned about people paying to park or the developer was, you'd think they print out a couple of signs or wraps around the meters...free parking courtesy of The City of Asbury Park ends March 1 or whatever date and be sure to double the rate from .50 to $1 when it kicks in again. AND ADD FEES TO TICKETMASTER EVENTS... AND A $5.00 PER ROOM TOURIST TAX Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm gonna disagree with you on that, Oak. Maybe Asbury would be better off advertising a bailout backlash or a bailout for people. No beach fees. No parking fees. Half the sales tax (UEZ). No hotel room tax. No tourist taxes whatsoever. Ok. Whose gonna bailout the city to cover for it all? If the developer,whose using someone else's money is willing to pay for all that free stuff you propose, like lifeguards, gate guards, police, lighting, signage. If a room can go for $150-$250 night...or a drink $11 (at least my blue was only $5)or dinner $30 plus appetizers, drinks, deserts etc or a knick knack old propeller decoration is $3,000... BASED ON EXPERIENCE over the years on the boardwalk when things got depserate, FREE BEACHES did bring people in and helped the merchants out some BUT did nothing to help out the city. They still had to pay the bill. So it's ok for an individual business owner or developer with debt free money to profit at the expense of the city? I think asking everyone to contribute $1 or $2 isn't the worse thing in the world to help AP climb out of hibernation. If I (or anyone else) can for over money for booze, paying $1 for parking or another $5 on a room for $150 isn't the end of the world. And the landlords of the city should just give free rent? Remember, the city is one giant landlord - collecting rent to cover and provide the essential services so that their residents (tenants) can propser. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Topic change to Taxes and Free Beaches....
And the problem created when FREE BEACHES took place... The african americans and spanish came to town. That was the unofficial problem created by free beaches. Beach fees help the problem. BUT, as a merchant who sold cheap beach buckets (or gave them away cause I hated to here someone say you ain't getting that, shutup...) or one who was taught early on that people with money to spend are good people... the more people with money to spend, the more you make. That, I was taught not in college, but on the boardwalk from every old guy there was. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone on this board is studying the budget. Let's see what we can come up with to defer the cost of lifeguards. We all take our out of shape asses and sit on the chair for free and try to look good ADvertise on the lifeguards chairs and ON the lifeguards backs or asses... I have two more ideas, but their so good, I have to figure out how I can money off itnot big bucks... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The meeting discussion started out about SUSPENDING ENFORCEMENT... Then morphed into announcing that parking was free. Silly... Dysfunctional Werner Exactly. No reason to make it free. $1.00 to park should be FREE, but to go pay at least $80 for a bite and a drink? PRemium outlets wanted 8.00 to valet your car. and there were people who had their cars valet parked. The merchants can always give a $1.00 off the final bill if they felt it really made a difference. Good service, good food, drinks, weather or something else you offer brings people in if you don't have people want, they aren't coming in. Another fact of life in the business world. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: MM and the $60 or $160 or $500m
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: I maintain the opinion that the Public has a right to be privy to Interesting thoughts. But does it give the right to lease agreements between the tenants and MM/PArtners or Live Nation or the Pony/WB? And what's really the status of the Esperanza or what does MM plan and when, with the rest of their bargain they gained from Kushner... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU NOVEMBER 15, 2008 ok. F'em. Madison Marquette also does not want paid parking in the evening hours next summer. WHY?? So they can ahrge to valet your car? ENOUGH is ENOUGH? And by the way of the last agreement and other agreements that are meaningless... isn't MM/PArtners supposed to reimburse the city the costs of legal fees and other professionals?? So the city has to go to court to enforce an iron-clad agreement by a man of his word.. Lay down and let me walk all over you, because if you don't let me walk over you then... THEN WHAT? Lay 'em on the table and call it. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about this gem; Did I say this F'EM? 1. Let People Pay for parking. a) they pay for food. b) they pay for drinks. c) they tip d) they have a good time e) they feel safe, or they wouldn't come f) they feel they have value for their money 2. The Merchants (or MM) can have staff members staioned at the meters, offering free parking cards or sticking money in the meters OR the merchants can validate your parking receipt - in effect giving you a refund on your parking fee for one hour or two hours or threeSPLURGE for $1 or $2 so your customer can spend $10 or $100 or more IF THE CITY can't tax, can't charge to PARK to USE the city's property (boardwalk, beach and roads, sanitation on public property, lights and most importantly in the summer the SAND) then might as well file for bankruptcy today. This is the FIRST TIME since who the f knows when the CITY has a chance to actually earn some revenues they have yet another GUN pointed at their heads and are takin gthe barrel in their mouths. enough. Start charging for parking and make it $1.00 an hour. In the peak summer make to $2 hour. Free parking west of kinglsey. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Top 10 Ugliest Buildings In The World
---the fairy-tale drawing I posted before of a concept casino/resort hotel...http://tinyurl.com/57jcam Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] lastly...
...Many communities need new retail destinations that reflect who they are and what they want, said Gary Mottola, President of Madison Marquette Investments. Our strategy is to identify where these opportunities exist and then create distinctive destinations that convey a real sense of place and best meet the needs of the surrounding community. - Best meets the needs of the city? Pay some taxes or let the city earn some money as well The Funds' investors include some of the industry's most recognized institutional investors, such as ABP, ColoradoPERS, OhioSERS, PennsylvaniaSERS and Wells Fargo. Madison Marquette Retail Enhancement Fund $487,000,000 - June 2007 Offering of limited partnership interests Blind pool basis Retail-focused value-added fund Oversubscribed Investors include major U.S. and foreign public pension plans, insurance companies and taxable investors -- Blind pools are a thing of the past- another trust me fund. Love to see the return on this fund in one year, given that most reits are down over 30% to 70%, especially blind pools which may HAVE to give back money at 100% plus if NOT invested. at least that's my understanding of them Look at those that probably are getting f'd byt his fund. Insurance companies, banks,retirement accounts, retail focused and taxable investors. one big circle. And AP should take it? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like Gary Mottolla agrees with me on the issue. Give people every reason to come to AP. We aren't popular enough yet to start challenging their decision to come with parking meters. And where do you draw that insane conclusion? AP was packed Sat night. There was a reason. Shit was happening. So how about MM paying the 75K? How many people need a $3,000 propeller or a $750 red chair everyday? Not many. How many people would bring their kids to the boardwalk for something to do vs being stuck inside with them all winter? Many. PAy up tommy. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sure Oak - have a concert and draw a crowd. What about the other 300+ days a year? The typical season was 110 days. And with that, you hoped and prayed for nice weather. YOu were on your own with no backing. Here's a major developer and retailer asking for and getting a break on .50 hour parking fees. How do you construct retail with NO parking. every major developer HAS to provide parking as per any town regulation. So ,many spots per 1,000 sq ft so the developer gets to use city property for their benefit and gain (rent) while the city gets It's not the city's responsbility to make money for the investor. They bought CH. They bought the rights. They bought the rights to make money. The city and developer(s) signed agreements. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gets stay on Asbury COs
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm 100% certain that the masses that came to the city on Saturday for a concert would've happily paid to park. It comes with the territory of going to see a show. well said. Train (20 plus) to MSG or parking at javits or a NYC show $48 or more The thinking is if they don't have to spend $2.00 to park for FOURM hours, maybe they'll spend that money in the bar... Let MM run their lots as they want, even hanging FREE parking signs. The city should give them the permits for those lots AND TAX them acordingly - not as vacant land. Let those free lots get filled then let whomever else wants, pay to park. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
