Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Turntable use with Transporter
You have a nice system, why not treat it to a decent turntable and one of these: http://www.m2tech.biz/joplin.html That is an ADC that has the phono equalisation built in, and could output to the TP. Getting the gain right will be important, but I think that there is enough flexibility. adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97654 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Considering a dac
The problem is, you always get such a more significant improvement with changes to speakers. The old 'source first' mantra may have made sense in the 70s (maybe), but now any digital source is going to sound pretty good, whereas speakers of the same price usually have notable weaknesses. I have run my SB3 via the DIY charlize amp into my Lowthers, and it sounds really great - £300 of source and amp is all. Sure my proper DAC and amps are better, but if I desperately needed a grand or two I could sell those and not be that worried. If you asked me to downgrade the speakers much, you'd make me miserable! Put that in reverse, and you have my 'sort the speakers first' plan. Although I do appreciate that once you have the wife happy with speakers, getting her to accept change can be a challenge. You are welcome to bring her here to see mine, which are incredibly large and ugly; after she's seen them, you can introduce new speakers with impunity! -- adamslim MPD on Linux PC, Young DAC, DIY Kondo M7 pre, 6B4G SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, DIY open baffle speakers Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90939 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Considering a dac
A DAC would not hurt, although I would probably look to upgrading the speakers or amp before the source in your place - although it might take more than £200 to make a real jump up in quality. If you do want to buy a DAC, the CA is a good choice. The Arcam rDAC is also worth considering, you may get a used one for that kind of amount; the MF V-DAC is also within budget. There was a big test of DACs on pink fish recently: http://www.pinkfishmedia.net/forum/showthread.php?t=93581page=16 - massive thread, results start from about where I linked. The guy running the test found the MF V-DAC to be basically indistinguishable from the SB3. -- adamslim MPD on Linux PC, Young DAC, DIY Kondo M7 pre, 6B4G SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, DIY open baffle speakers Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=90939 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] technical question about sample frequency and bit depth digital output
Phil Leigh;646811 Wrote: Leaving aside the weirdness of a 16/96 dac, dither would only be needed if you were using the volume control. It was a bit weird, but pretty good. IIRC I was using it with a dCS upsampler, hence the need for dither. All ancient history now, I have a 32/384-capable DAC :) -- adamslim MPD on Linux PC, Young DAC, DIY Kondo M7 pre, 6B4G SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, DIY open baffle speakers Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89273 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] technical question about sample frequency and bit depth digital output
The Touch is great for outputting to a 24/96 DAC - it will be bit-perfect at all of the usual resolutions. Complications can occur if your DAC is limited - I had a 16/96 DAC, which caused some issues, as you need to apply dither when cutting word length. But for normal use into reasonably standard equipment, the Touch is a great transport. -- adamslim MPD on Linux PC, Young DAC, DIY Kondo M7 pre, 6B4G SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, DIY open baffle speakers Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=89273 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter EAC vs. CD audio... Throwing Down the Gauntlet !!!
It looks like a worthwhile test. Some comments: Would it not be better to use a fairly high end system? Even high end headphones, rather than $300 ones? Secondly, if the ears of the listener are so good that he can note down the differences, why not ask him to say which an unknown player is? This would be an ABX test - you play A and B, to the listener's satisfaction, then ask him which X is. If he can get this right, it would be really strong evidence for a difference. Thirdly, could you randomise the inputs for each test, i.e. in test 1 A is the CD, in test 2 B is, and so on. Then the listener could say which he thinks is the best. If he consistently chooses one, above statistical likelihood, then you have evidence. This is a lot easier to run than ABX. Finally, it's worth getting in someone who knows statistics to help you to decide how many tests to run. -- adamslim MPD on Linux PC, Caiman, DIY Kondo M7 pre, 6B4G SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, DIY open baffle speakers Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=88364 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Meridian CD player
If you are in the UK, I have a Meridian 200/203 that I would be happy to sell, and it'll cost about the same as a proper service for a 506, I imagine (and sounds a lot better!!) PM if of interest, sorry if this is outrageous soliciting :) -- adamslim Touch, Caiman, 845 SET, Lowther monsters SB3, Charlize 2, One Thing Quad ESLs Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=82371 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn DS range SBS integration
audiomuze;517745 Wrote: Doubt I'd purchase one though, not at those prices and definitely not without a damned slick user experience. Well the price is the price; Linn long ago gave up on those with reasonable budgets! But the user experience is fine in that I just use iPeng or the SB3 remote. That it is not a SB is invisible, except that it is (very) slightly less stable. If you find iPeng, SBC or whatever acceptable as a control mechanism, you're fine with a DS. Personally I'm happy that they spent their dev money on the product rather than the software; they would never get the latter right, so I'm fine with SBS! -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate Skweezy DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther monsters Duet, Caiman, Audio Innovations Series 500, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75329 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn DS range SBS integration
First get the Linn Konfig program so you can see if the DS is recognised on your network. I strongly recommend using the Linn fully wired - I bought a switch and ran a long cable for it. Using the SB as a bridge was a world of pain; even once I got it working it was less reliable. Go to the Linn forum and find the SkweezyDS plug-in, follow the instructions. Takes just a few minutes. Note that you sync the DS to a SB, so you need a SB in the room; I find it makes for a handy screen. It's not perfect - sometimes I find that something has gone wrong, and I need to switch things off and back on again, or restart SBS. But 90% of the time it's fine. And does sound nice :) -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate Skweezy DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther monsters Duet, Caiman, Audio Innovations Series 500, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75329 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn DS range SBS integration
Oh by the way, if anyone in the UK wants to listen to my Linn Akurate DS and compare it to a Modwright Transporter, come to the Wigwam show on March 7th: http://www.hifiwigwam.com/show We are running a comparison through a pretty decent system (not mine) with a Kondo pre, nice valve power amp and Living Voice speakers -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate Skweezy DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther monsters Duet, Caiman, Audio Innovations Series 500, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2, Radio adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=75329 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and word clock base-rate multiplying support
Are there actually any DACs that do respond by changing the clock out according to the SPDIF metadata? That would be cool, although since they could only be used properly with a single transport system (the Transporter), I guess the market would be a tad limited! -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther monsters Duet, Caiman, Audio Innovations Series 500, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter and word clock base-rate multiplying support
seanadams;499259 Wrote: Not that I know of... and in fairness, Transporter has a word clock output mode which only does 44.1, but as far as I know nobody has EVER used it for anything except my own performance testing. It does seem a shame that so much hand-wringing goes on about jitter, yet it is a problem almost completely solved by a clock from the DAC. If indeed it is an audible problem at all. Still, fills the hifi mags, eh? :) -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther monsters Duet, Caiman, Audio Innovations Series 500, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=73025 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Half speed master vinyl
I have a couple of these. They sound astonishing - good value if you actually like the music! -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi Rock/Excalibur/Decca, Linn Akurate DS, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther monsters Duet, Caiman, Audio Innovations Series 500, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The end of the CD player :-)
Ironically, as a long-term SB user and about to get a Linn DS tomorrow, I've just bought a CD player. My subscriptions to Gramophone and other magazines come with free sampler CDs, and ripping these in is just plain silly - hence a return to the old system. However, I think that Gramophone should just set up a web streaming system that streamed odd tracks from their 'pick of the month', which I could access via my SB systems. That would *really* be the death of CD, for me at least! -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi SB+, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther Big Fun Horns, REL Stentor SB+, Audio Innovations L1, Chi-Fi OTL monoblocks, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=71619 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS
Well I've just agreed to buy a Linn Akurate DS, my first ever Linn product. I'm hoping to do a comparison of the Linn, Transporter, SB+ and possibly the Modwright Transporter too, which would be fun. -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi SB+, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther Big Fun Horns, REL Stentor SB+, Audio Innovations L1, Chi-Fi OTL monoblocks, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Cheapest active speakers w. digi. x-over
The AVIs have an active XO, not a digi XO, AFAIK. No idea why - digi is surely the plan in that kind of thing. Used Meridian D5000s often go for £600ish - that would be an old pair, probably 18-bit. Much better than AVIs, and fully digital, although it sounds like even that's more than you want to spend. -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi SB+, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther Big Fun Horns, REL Stentor SB+, Audio Innovations L1, Chi-Fi OTL monoblocks, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=68229 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz dsp plugin - what are the results?
Are the inguz filters player-specific? I remember reading that they weren't, so once you had a filter applied it would be on everything you played on each system, which makes no sense... -- adamslim You can't have too much music, but I do have too much hifi SB+, Audion Pre, 6B4G death traps, Lowther Big Fun Horns, REL Stentor SB+, Audio Innovations L1, Chi-Fi OTL monoblocks, Heybrook Sextets Boom x 2 adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60057 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter v Linn Squeeky DS
JezA;434423 Wrote: And I have heard a Lowther, as it happens. If you lined up all the speakers in the world according to their neutrality, it would definitely be near one of the ends. Have you ever heard a Steinway? I suspect that my Lowthers would give a better simulacrum of a Steinway than most speakers, tbh, of whatever cost. And 8W is perfectly enough, although I am currently giving them a serious workout with a First Watt F3, fully 15W. They might not be neutral in terms of frequency response, but there's a lot more to accuracy than that. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=64680 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
jaysung;409586 Wrote: Hello, Could somebody give me more info on that? I am just now deciding if a customer gets an akurate DS from Linn or a transporter from logitech. Usability is one of the biggest concerns. The idea is that he has the UI on his lcd Sony 40 inch screen. Linngui runs on a computer? So that would go on a display? What exactly is worse in Linngui than in SC7. Most important: What about album art / covers? Any chance to navigate by album art on that big screen vfia linngui? Iphone-like coverflow would be nice. ;) You should check on the Linn forum - they have been working on a system that allows SC to control the Linn DS. When I looked, some time ago, you had to buy a 'sacrificial' SB (e.g. a Duet) and use the Receiver part and the Linn syncs to the SB. Thus you get all the benefits of the SC GUI, together with the sound of the Linn. It also worked for 24/192 files, IIRC. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hifi Wigwam show in the UK
Indeed it did - you can see info on the WigWam here: http://www.hifiwigwam.com/view_forum.php?id=38 Plus there are lots of pictures here: http://picasaweb.google.com/JamPal32/PieFiShowOfficialPhotoS# There were lots of systems there - about 40 in all. Sadly as an exhibitor I only got to hear about ten others properly, so next year I may be just visiting! It was good fun, I met people from this forum (including Patrick Dixon, the maker of the SB+) and many others. Sometimes it's good to see that there are crazier people than you :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60067 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Tube amp for SB3 + Klipsch RB-61
It's hard to get a good tube amp for $500 new - you would probably be looking at buying direct from China or HK at that price, which is risky (but can work well). I would recommend buying used, in general. For those speakers, which are very sensitive and should be an easy load, you can choose pretty much anything power-wise: even my 8WPC amps would be fine with them. Push-pull EL84 valves should produce about a dozen watts, which would seem a good place to start. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60309 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will a transporter sound as good as the Linn Majik DS
Yeah that Linn hack for making the DSs work with SqueezeCenter is such a good idea. I had hoped that Logitech would license their systems to audiophile manufacturers (Linn, Meridian, Naim, Arcam etc), offering a good revenue stream (together with lots of sales of Booms etc for second systems), but it appears not to be. Oh well -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hifi Wigwam show in the UK
craig strong;396570 Wrote: I hope your system kicks some ass, as Im currently argueing the toss in the tent about how an SB can equal cdp's of a much higher price! Why else would I sell my £1200 Marantz in favour of one? Yeah I've given up on that thread! I quite wanted to have a room where we could compare a decent CD player against my setup, although I seem to have no takers. Funny that... -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60067 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hifi Wigwam show in the UK
Might as well do some promotion here, if that's OK... There is a UK hifi show taking place in Melton Mowbray on Sunday March 1st. A group of us from the forum are demonstrating our systems, just for fun really. Link: http://www.hifiwigwam.com/show I will be there with my Slim-based system, being an SB+ coupled with a dCS Purcell and Elgar, through an Audion pre-amp, 300B SET monoblocks and, sadly, the Lowthers are immovable, so I'll be using my Living Voice OBX-R2s Of interest to some here might be my Custom Browse system, which uses custom tags and a dynamic tag-browsing system specifically for classical music. A few people elsewhere have expressed an interest in seeing how it works, and I'll be happy to demo it. Sean, if you fancy sending me a Transporter I'd be happy to take that along too :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell Elgar, Audion Pre, Welborne DRD 300B SETs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60067 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BBC - higher bit rate
rbl;389267 Wrote: Do you know if FM is signficantly better than DAB / internet strreaming? I used to use a Quad FM4 many years ago but always found it to be pretty poor quality compared to CD. Haven't used it in years and would need to get an aerial etc. to fire it up again... With a decent aerial and good source material, FM should outperform DAB or internet radio. However, the source material quality is getting a lot worse - I now find that the only decent quality is Radio 3 evening stuff, as even this station is frequently cursed with compression during 'drive time' programmes. The ability to get decent bandwidth internet radio is a compelling advatage for the Squeezebox. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell, Ack Dac, Audion Quattro, Welborne DRD 300Bs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45881 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New Transporter in 2009?
I can't see that there will be one. There will be a lot of companies joining the streaming devices bandwagon, and I suspect that Logitech would make a lot more money by licensing the streaming tech to audiophile companies than by making the hardware themselves - could they really improve on the Transporter? Oh and 24/192 is clearly a necessity, but for marketing purposes only, and the dual display is better than the Duet (although not as good as the dual display -plus -the Controller!) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell, Ack Dac, Audion Quattro, Welborne DRD 300Bs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57677 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Explain this, please.
darrenyeats;377848 Wrote: Hi Stefan, Firstly you're brand new to this forum and secondly you've got a shopping list of statements to kick off a big argument. Whether you realise it or not, people are going to think that combination means you're a troll. Darren It's proper 'Happy New Year' trolling though, don'cha think? :) Quality first post, I reckon :D -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, dCS Purcell, Ack Dac, Audion Quattro, Welborne DRD 300Bs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57449 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Am I imagining this? Squeezecentre 7.3 sounds worse than 7.2.1?
I got quite worried when I saw this thread; I then realised that I had noticed that the previous track didn't sound great, and the current one, a Beethoven concerto, also was a bit rough. Panic!!! So I checked the SC version - 7.2.1. I haven't bothered to upgrade yet. Then I engaged brain, and realised that this was a recording from the 1950s, and the previous one was a pretty dodgy digital one from the 80s. I had had it on random play and wasn't paying too much attention, so I only noticed the iffy sound when I listened for it. Put a track that I know well, and all is well. It'll probably be fine when I get round to upgrading to 7.3 as well. It's very easy to jump to conclusions based on imagination and little else in this game. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, Audion 300Bs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Bm adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=56591 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Greenhorn looking for guidance.
The best way to listen to a lot of kit is to check out some hi-fi shows. You don't want to buy purely off the basis of your listening there, but it will give you a reasonable idea of what stuff does. There's a lot of variety, and you could easily get something much better than your friends' Naim kit - but only if you spend some time looking! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, Audion 300Bs, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Bm adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55469 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter dig out/in and jitter box?
Makes more sense to me to upsample your music in non-realtime (can Audacity do this?), and use the Transporter 'properly'. This allows the potential for better upsampling, as you are not restricted by the machine's CPU speed, and eliminates all the jitter problems that other have mentioned. However, I'm not sure if there are good software systems for upsampling. I doubt if dCS, Monarch and the like make their interpolation equations public domain. Be fun to try a few different ones though! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Whoops I seem to have bought a record player... adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=55160 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is External DAC What I'm Craving?
I tried a Shek DAC, which cost a bit over £150 IIRC, and it certainly changed the sound; it soundstaged better and was smoother, but lacked a bit of punch. If that's the kind of change you want, it can help. I'm now trying an Ack DAC, which seems very good. I got it used for £140 (retail in the UK is £750!), and it is a real step up from the SB3; in many ways it is better than my SB+. IMO you probably need to spend a bit more, but keeping track of ebay can be worthwhile... -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Whoops I seem to have bought a record player... adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54783 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile rescues masters: collector items!
Nice find. Despite the website being down ATM, I will revisit often; I would pay significant sums for discs of Talk Talk's later albums that sound half as good as they did on vinyl! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Whoops I seem to have bought a record player... adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using SqueezeCenter with a Linn DS
Interesting stuff - Linn seem to have hacked something together so you can stream from SC to a Linn DS. See here: http://forums.linn.co.uk/bb/showthread.php?tid=1028 One of the things that has stopped me buying a DS is the interface - Twonky, nasty. Could be a fun investigation! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Whoops I seem to have bought a record player... adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=54191 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Online source for sensible interconnects?
Blue Jeans, but be careful as they are very stiff, which may not be ideal for such short runs. www.bluejeanscable.com -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Whoops I seem to have bought a record player... adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50932 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Does a better CD drive make better sound?
The point of a CD drive is to convert a legacy format (CD) to a current one (audio data). Once you have it in an audio data format, whether wav, FLAC or Apple Lossless, you have a 100% guarantee that it will just work. To get it into that format, you just need something that can be aligned with AccurateRip (close on 100% of modern $20 drives), and then you check each disc as it rips. Once you have validated 19 in 20 rips (and you can see that the 20th is a buggered disc) you relax about this stage of the process and find somewhere else to spend your audio budget :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES Whoops I seem to have bought a record player... adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50690 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Squeezebox plus, does it still exist?
You definitely prefer it to the TP then MC? -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49942 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] At-tunes SB+, SB3 + DAC or Transporter?
I worried about the lack of 24/96, but there is so little available in that format (and less in 24/192!) that it's really not worth worrying about. You can always downsample to 24/48. Just get whatever you prefer the sound of on 16/44.1, I say, and you will be happy with 99% of your music collection. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Lowther Big Fun Horns with PM6As Living Voice OBX-R2s stuck in a corner looking lonely SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49933 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] WIfi or hard wire between server and squeezebox
Phil Leigh;319141 Wrote: Wireless vs wired makes NO difference to sound quality. Wireless either works or it doesn't IME I agree, although some have thought they heard a difference, and it could be valid to claim that the wifi card could have some impact. Much flaming has occurred on this. Interestingly, it strikes me that there is a way around this - use a Receiver in bridge mode as a wifi receiver, feeding ethernet to the Transporter. Effectively your TP then becomes a two-box product - one to receive the wifi, and one to do all the sound stuff. Obviously pointless, but fun pointless :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49777 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What DAC to use?
Pascal Hibon;316694 Wrote: As far as upgrading my speakers, well I dont think there is any HiFi speaker out there that would out perform the speakers I have. I have MP Audio speakers http://www.mp-audio.be/ Well on paper there's lots about those speakers that I am less than keen on, but with 100dB/W and 750W continuous power handling, by golly you could have an impressive party! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49316 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Transport?
Complicated, and something you're only going to resolve with plenty of listening! Firstly, the Transporter might work for you. Try it. You might also like to consider the modded products such as the Modwright Transporter and the SB+. If you go the DAC route, I would suggest one with a clock output and slave the TP, but this does depend on the DAC. If it -is -doing its job properly, it should be independent of transport, but I fear many/most/all do not. Let us know how you get on! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Transport?
Not the first time this has been asked. I think the problem is that it wouldn't remove much from the BOM, so you'd probably be looking somewhere north of $1,500. Considering the inherent advantage (jitter-wise) of a one-box solution, the 'full' TP is likely to sound better than one with an external DAC unless the DAC is *very* good - so you would be looking at a target audience of people who have spent more than the price of the TP on their DAC - and they can easily afford the extra $500. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49256 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice on 24/96 with SB3 Please.
mvalera;314923 Wrote: audible garbage due to the downsampling. I think the phrase you're looking for is aliasing artefacts ;) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49218 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to lower output level DAC the audiophile way.
Use an attenuator - you can get RCA plugs that knock off 10dB, say. Use the SB volume to suss out the right amount of attenuation, then buy that value, or close. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49202 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 - Transporter Minireview
It's probably not surprising that there was little (indeed no) discernable difference. In principle, if a DAC is doing its job properly then it should be pretty well immune to jitter, and since they're the same bits, there's no scope for improvement. Since you have a £5k Meridian device that's receiving your digital data, I'd be very surprised if it didn't deal with jitter very well indeed. In fact, I'd be rather worried about it if there were a big improvement moving to the TP! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49001 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Matching integrated amp for speaker
Might be worth adding Sugden to that list - these are great with classical and acoustic. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=48599 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Timing Jitter question
A most succinct and balanced reply. The only thing I want to add is to point out that if your DAC has a clock out then you can slave the Transporter to it, which should reduce jitter to almost zero, although is probably not quite as low as the 'internal' Transporter system. Oh plus the standard health warning: WARNING: The audibility of jitter in the low picoseconds is disputed. Other factors may affect sound quality. This thread may self-destruct in ten seconds. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BNC or RCA which should I use?
opaqueice;297645 Wrote: Would you mind expounding on that? They were able to tell the difference between the CD player's digital out going into the Krell and the SB3 and/or Duet's digital out going into the Krell - is that right? Did you level the volumes? How many trials did you do? Might I politely recommend this is not replied to? :) The OP proved it to his and (importantly, I imagine) his wife's satisfaction. It would probably not have been double blind and it would almost certainly not qualify for inclusion in a scientific journal. It's never going to be data, it's just an opinion point. Let's not get flaming please... -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=47046 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...
ModelCitizen;296711 Wrote: The more I think about the HDX the more i think that Naim have got it right and that it is far from flawed product. Considering their probable target market as it stands at the moment it seems well aimed. It is attempting to take all the hassle and geekness out of network music. I agree in part, but still I think the server / client is where everything is moving, rightly. Naim could have provided a computer that does the ripping, tag lookups, database, music server side, a crossover cable and a 'slim' client that has the sensitive audio bit. Then geeky types like us could use our own PC system, saving half the price. All you need to do is package up EAC and FLAC, MP3Tag, the server, and Firefox, with a UI into a silent PC. Easy for consumers, and dead easy for Naim - you're just splitting the HDX into two. Offers a perfect upgrade route too - Linn Akurate DS users can easily upgrade to the Klimax DS without having to rerip or move swap HDs ModelCitizen;296711 Wrote: I don't really care what lossless format the music plays in as long as tags are supported (and I see it supports flac anyway). I'm interested how quiet the device is and how good the interface and remote are. I prefer the screen on the remote rather than the device but without wireless I gues this is not possible. The tie up with AMG is interesting. This is something I think Logitech should be looking into (for Reviews and Bios). Be interesting to see if you can amend the tags. For me this is essential - I bet AMG is totally inconsistent with Classical music. And the screen on the device is rather pointless, although a nice idea! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46767 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] audio insanity
harmonic;291144 Wrote: Have a look at jean yves system http://www.stereotimes.com/showreportces05page2.shtml http://www.aca.gr/pop_jyk.htm OMG, digital active 5-way horns, driven by SET valve amps. One can but drool... -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46270 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best method of connection for SB Classic to AMP
Being a home cinema amp, it has digital inputs as well as analogue. You can therefore use either stereo RCAs, in which case you use the SB3's DAC and should put your amp in analogue direct mode, or you can use a digital coax cable (also will be RCA, but is a different cable design), in which case you will be using the DAC in your amp. The Arcam amp will only work in analogue (i.e. the former). The best sound? Whichever sounds best! Not trying to be facetious, but it really is down to you which you prefer, there's unlikely to be an absolute winner. In your situation I would go to http://www.bluejeanscable.com/ and get a stereo audio cable and a digital audio one. They're all decent and great value, and it'll allow you to see which you prefer without spending serious money. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46921 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...
ModelCitizen;296400 Wrote: As someone here once said (maybe the original poster?): I've already made a sacrifice in sound quality going from CD from vinyl. I don't want to take another going to a network player (or some such). As things stand I still think you still have to, but maybe the Linn and Naim offerings will rectify this but I won't be buying them until they are much less expensive and much better designed. Yeah I think that was one of mine. Happily the SB+ was a step-up from my CD player; I think I'll stick for the next few years and let the market ply its course, maturing in both sound quality and useability terms. What might be interesting would be if Slim Devices were to license their server and firmware to the likes of Linn, Naim and so on. Audiophile companies are not software developers; could be a nice little earner for Logitech, although it would, I think, be a unique business model for them - already the SB/Transporter is a bit away from their comfort zone. ModelCitizen Wrote: SB+ Bryston 4BSST PMC OB1s Sold the Transporter then? ;) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46767 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...
ModelCitizen;295227 Wrote: The point about NAIM is that their gear just sounds superb. The rest is details ;-/ That's why it would be really cool if they came up with a product that isn't so fundamentally flawed! Might sound great *but*... Slim Devices came up with products that are far less flawed (at least for people who aren't scared of computers). While the sound quality may (untested, not flamebait) not be as good as the Linn/Naim players, it's easier to mod to improve the sound quality than it is to sort out the fundamental flaws of design and usage. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46767 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How many reasons...
Can we come up with why this is a flawed product: http://whathifi.com/hi-fi/archive/2008/04/24/news-naim-s-audiophile-music-server.aspx Although it's good to see another entrant to the audiophile hard-disk-streaming world :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46767 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anybody bought one (or 4) of these..?
While I don't like to diss products that I haven't tried, so much on that website is such utter nonsense it beggars belief. Brilliant Pebbles taped to your interconnects?!? WTF?? Even if you had everything else totally sorted about your system and room, I can't see that these could have a meaningful effect. But just compare the effect these could have with stuff like (proper) room treatment, speaker positioning and the like. And the 30-day money back guarantee is genius: totally playing on people's sense of audiophile paranoia. We're so confident that the difference is night and day that we're willing to let you try them free - placebo and paranoia. It's the music... [/rant] :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46700 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I want it bit-perfect
ModelCitizen;293326 Wrote: Please, it'd be nice to see one thread here end in harmony. No it wouldn't! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46229 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Burning amp in with dummy load
I've never been a great believer in burn-in, although my speakers are sounding much better now than when I first got them - unless it's just me getting accustomed to them... Anyway, it sounds like you have a nice system so why not just use it as normal (maybe leave the amps on 24/7) and enjoy it? The downsides of wiring up resistors incorrectly - especially with Naim amps, which usually need some inductance to keep them stable IIRC - are considerable. From your other thread it sounds like this is a big step-up already, so relax and enjoy the music :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46295 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
The Linn products are basically the same as the SB3 Transporter - they are systems for converting data, e.g. FLAC files, to music - not just DACs. The Linns do not have wifi - I understand this is because Linn don't want to get involved with configuring wifi for customers and sorting out those problems. Ethernet only - no bad thing if you want 24/192 too! I've mostly discounted the Linn as SqueezeCentre is so great! Having to move to TwonkyMedia would be such a downgrade, it would really impinge on the usability of the product. I do expect that the Linn sounds better, but I am happy with my sound. Have you tried an SB+? It's a Squeezebox-derived system that most who have heard them both prefer to the Transporter. It has a few limitations compared to the TP (only one screen, max res 24/48, no knob...) but does cost less. Just a thought. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
Kris;288729 Wrote: Where to can you suggest? perhaps mark some RED X's on the photograph Its difficult to move them though , simply because of the room size/shape I am working on obtain a SPL meter/mic and some software to analyse the room and see where I can make some improvements. Any suggestions would be great I would get a narrower system stand and allow the speakers to be closer together. You normally don't want a speaker in the corner like that left one. I would expect a new system stand to be a lot cheaper than most of your upgrades :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter of SB3
As Opaqueice indicated, if a DAC is working (I'd use the phrase really good), it should sort out jitter, and so should be independent of transport. In principle, the SB3 should sound the same as the TP. In practice, I don't quite hold with the 'perfect DAC' position, but certainly I have struggled to hear much difference between transports into decent DACs. The other thing to try is to spend longer listening than just an A/B swap. I have often found myself listening much later with better digital sources, despite not being able to readily pick them apart in quick A/B tests. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter of SB3
If your Theta has a clock out, you can use the clock in of the Transporter; this should virtually eliminate jitter, and give the best results. If there is no clock out, then I would expect the Transporter to be slightly better than the SB3 but the difference may be minimal or even unnoticeable. The SB3 is a pretty good transport. You may also consider a modded SB3 such as the SB+, which has a digital-only version for £800 - better value in the UK than the US! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45561 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin
Yeah cutting out the EMI from the last metre, ignoring the 100+km agross the grid, always struck me as kinda pointless. I DIY'd my mains cables. It's always satisfying to build something yourself, and you mind less when the interesting experiment that shows you can't hear any difference cost you just a few quid and was actually quite fun. I find it amazing that people pay loads for this stuff - you could get an electrician come in and fit a dedicated spur for your hifi for the same kind of amount. That makes much more sense. Anyway 2000%? By the time you factor in distribution, retail packaging, retail margins and so on, it will shrink rapidly. Take the $15 component cost and add: $20 for labour and packaging = $35 $15 for a minimal manufacturer profit = $50 $10 for a small distro cost or postage to dealer = $60 $40 for a low (on cables) dealer margin = $100 So it's 3x overpriced, maybe. I've seen worse! What I find really crappy is the poor build quality - for that there is no excuse. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=45323 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
rydenfan;283380 Wrote: For anyone that is interested 6moons just reviewed the Modwright transporter and favorably compared it to a $30,000 Esoteric player. Needless to say it was awarded a 6moons award. Cheers, interesting to see. I have almost written off the Linn stuff completely because of the quality of SqueezeCenter; this is probably the only digital upgrade I could make. Tom, there was no point to your post. Go away. :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Stereophile Article: MP3 vs AAC vs FLAC vs CD
opaqueice;277809 Wrote: So he's claiming that by looking at a graph of this particular test-tone he can tell whether or not these effects are audible on music. And yet he didn't bother to do a listening test - in the time it took him to prepare that article, he could have performed a whole series. -That- would have been interesting, because what most people really want to know is which format to use and at what level of compression. This kind of vague cursory analysis and unsubstantiated statements isn't useful. Frankly, I very much doubt he would have been able to hear the differences between 320 MP3 or AAC and CD (at least not without lots of practice and choosing the test track very carefully), and after all the whining Stereophile has been doing recently that wouldn't look very good. Yes, a typical JA article. This is the man who won't listen to a SET amp as he considers it a tone control, IIRC. It would be so easy for them to do a detailed blind test using a high resolution system; they could even highlight any changes in the results generated by the listeners getting familiar with the MP3/AAC artefacts. That would have been interesting! The vague 'ooh look at those charts' tone of the article is at best pointless, at worst misleading. Moral: don't expect investigative reporting in the hifi press! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44532 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Who uses green marker pens on their CDs?
radish;278106 Wrote: Who uses CDs anymore? This is what you need these days: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144011 LOL review says Cons: color is slightly off what the picture shows That's a -con-?!? -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44567 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
highfi;276294 Wrote: I understand the Transporter can produce a high level noise which can damage the ATC's (or ears) if used without a preamp? There was a bug some time ago, IIRC on the SB not the TP, that could result in a full-level white noise signal being sent out. If your speakers can't handle it, this could cause damage. AFAIK no-one suffered damage and it was fixed. But the TP has built-in attenuators, which you can select internally. You should use these to make sure that 0dB on the TP is the loudest you want it to play; your normal listening level will then be say -10dB, which you alter using the digital volume control. This system means that the TP spewing out noise at 0dB won't break your speakers, and also you are doing the least digital attenuation, to avoid its (alleged) negative effects. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Squeeze Me;275284 Wrote: Just oe question, what exactly do you mean when you say it is straightforward to mess up an active system. Surely you just plug in your source (Squeezebox) and are good to go? Sorry I meant from a design perspective - just because you have the theoretical improvements that going active could bring does not mean that any improvement will be achieved in practice. From a user perspective, whatever you get should all just work, active or passive. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New setup: Passive plus amp or Active??
Is this a destination or a path? If you want something that is neat and you'll leave it for many years, go for the active setup. If, however, you anticipate upgrading every couple of years, then passive gives you more options. Secondly, it is easy to argue for the theoretical advantage of active speakers, but it is quite straightforward to mess up a simple active system, so it really all depends on the specific system. Thirdly, speakers are a very personal choice, so ignore anything anyone tells you, as they'll normally just be recommending what they use. Fourthly, if you can get something for a decent price then what's to lose? You can flog it on ebay if you don't like it, and it costs you little or nothing. Best way to get going IMO. With reference to my third rule, I use Wharfedale 9.1s in my computer system and they're fine, good value. You pick three other manufacturers below that which are not favourites for me. Wharfedales are decent value and easy to move on when you come to upgrade, what's not to like? Get the credit card out and start listening to some tunes! :) Oh and I've heard nothing but good things about that amp. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=44164 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Wishlist for Transporter 2
opaqueice;270631 Wrote: There's a $300 Behringer unit (with six balanced outputs) that will do that. Yeah but digital, man, this is the audiophile forum! I actually would quite like this - the TP could have 6 analogue outs configurable either to be a (up to 3-way) digital crossover or 5.1 system, catering for both audiophile and videophile. Just software innit? One product for all. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43466 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
Phil Leigh;267621 Wrote: Valves aren't better than transistors - they are just different. That's fine. Nothing wrong with that. But can we please have a moratorium on the unqualified use of the word better? No-one can define better in this context. Valves may not be intrinsically better than transistors, maybe, but I'm pretty sure transistors -sound- worse than valves ;) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
adamslim;267631 Wrote: Valves may not be intrinsically better than transistors, maybe, but I'm pretty sure transistors -sound- worse than valves ;) Phil Leigh Wrote: Rant opaqueice Wrote: Rant Crikey calm down calm down, there's me thinking smileys are there for a purpose, to show - in this case - the gentle wink that goes with such a statement. Clearly despite such assistance I need to flag up my poor attempt at humour even more clearly :D -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
Thanks for sharing (does that sound like an AA comment? ;) ). Out of interest, why did you go for the Modwright over other modders? -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
tomjtx;267439 Wrote: You could have gotten the same result feeding transporter through a tube preamp or buffer. I love tubes also but it is a shame you wasted that money when you could have gotten the same results for a fraction of the price. It is getting a bit tiresome listening to talk about the illusory improvements modded TP's make posted ,IMO, rudely. on the slim forums. Modwright has it's own forum for that. You could have gotten a better result by not posting. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?
The Modwright mod (AFAIK) leaves everything up to DAC the same, but then adds a valve output stage (replacing that in the TP), which is similar to an amplifier. If you contend that valve amplifiers can be superior to transistors, than this could address an area of the TP that might be improvable. I can't comment as to the efficacy as I have never heard it, but given the dollar rate I reckon I might be able to import one direct and make only a small loss on resale. However, I've just bought speakers, so it'll be a while before I play that game! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43269 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Arcam Solo Movie 2.1
marksw;265242 Wrote: I don't watch many films Don't buy a device primarily suited to films then! :) I can't help directly as I don't know the RS6s. However, it seems that your problems are caused by a noisy NAS, which is not going to be solved by a Solo Movie, and by an inadequate amp, which is unlikely to be improved upon massively by a 5.1 amp with DSP. So I'd fix the noise problem - either remove from the room, encase or replace. Then fix the amp problem - and I would recommend considering valves if you like jazz and classical. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43024 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Anyone identify this cable?
Sorry, I can only tell the difference between cables blind ;) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=43116 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Linn Klimax DS - Network Music Player
harmonic;264278 Wrote: What ? i did no such thing , you did. Why would you buy a Mclaren mercedes when you can get from a/b in a fiat punto? sure you can buy 65 sb3`s for the price of the klimax ds but to me it dossent sound as good . Then ad there is the design and overall kvality to the design. The only thing that matters i think is ,are the extra amounth of money the klimax ds cost compared to the sb3worth the extra price ? Most will say no including me. But that dossent change the fact that it sounded completly mesamizing and i would love to owen it. Enyway I was pointing out that IF you buy a linn Klimax ds it will forever be upgradeble just like the sondek wich was released in 1973 . The sondek have gone through massive upgrades since then based apone orginal platform and all the upgrades have been aveileble to the linn customers. The klimax DS with its extreme kvality housing is the same in this regard For me this is a Huge benefit, Oh gosh, I find myself agreeing with Harmonic, what's going on ?!?! I haven't heard a Klimax DS but Linn's record (sorry) in digital replay is excellent. I recognise that it might be euphonic and less accurate (might being an important word here), but they have a lot of history that Slim Devices don't have. This is not a dig at the Transporter - a truly remarkable device, sure, but I think it would be folly to consider it the best possible, ever. I do disagree with the upgrade side though - I've never liked the way that you get suckered into an ongoing upgrade path with Linn and Naim that promises smaller and smaller improvements. A good business model for them, sure, but I'm quite happy selling my old stuff to buy new, if that's what I want; this also allows me to step back and consider other manufacturers without thinking about the potential lost investment in the old kit. Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38815 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best sound possible
hshrader;263878 Wrote: I need no beating. Thanks for unequivocal clarification. Hans LOL :) Welcome to the forum Hans. I've not been around here too much recently, but it seems in my absence some initiation rites have been set up! I thought that kind of thing was restricted to the Audio Circle :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42867 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] BW 802D Speakers. Tempted.
GuyDebord;263886 Wrote: Dont get me wrong, BW are not bad speakers, but they spend a lot of their budget in heavy branding campaigns which the majority swallow. Lets say they are not the best in the ratio of what you get for the money, Almost all the time I discover how much better are smaller and less known audio companies, this is why I prefer them. A lot of the value you get with the likes of BW is the value of the BRAND, which is the same seducer that makes people grab Louis Vuitton's instead of others... Like Andrew, I think you're being a bit harsh here. Sure BW spend a lot on brand advertising, but this is a rational business decision - it sells speakers. Their business model is to ensure high sales so they can spend money on RD and get economies of scale. This is different from my speaker manufacturer's, which is lower volume and lower advertising, but there's nothing wrong with BW. Comparing them to Louis Vuitton is disingenuous - fashion brands deliberately price high to become exclusive, and make obscene per item profits. BW do loads of RD and produce a product that is at the leading edge of the market. You may not like it, but all those studios would not use it for mastering if it were not good enough, even if they got it for free. So to the OP: pay attention to all the specific recommendations, and spend time listening, as speakers have a big influence on the character of the sound and it's all very personal, but if you prefer the 802Ds you'll have a great speaker. Not as good as my OBX-R2, obviously... ;) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42808 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Lavry DA10 DAC: Subjective Impressions and Listening Tests (Long)
Great post, thanks for taking the time :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42797 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter vs SB3 worthwhile for this system?
I've little doubt your system is good enough to merit a Transporter, but why not start off with a SB3 and see if you like it all? Trust me, if you decide to get a TP later you'll find somewhere to use the SB3 - very nice in a kitchen system :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42786 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] lust object speakers
I just got me some Living Voice OBX-R2s, so as far as I can see it's job done on the speaker front for a decade! http://www.sixmoons.com/audioreviews/livingvoice/avatar.html Adam +---+ |Filename: LV.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4168| +---+ -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others SB+, EAR V20, Living Voice OBX-R2s plus some other stuff SB3, Charlize, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42393 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 mediocre sound quality
crooner;260599 Wrote: Would have loved to produce this thing commercially, but it wouldn't be cheap. I'd probably end up losing money. Call it the Marantz 10B of streaming network players!! Patrick Dixon does something similar with his SB+, which I bought. Rehouse, improved PSU in a separate box, although I think he played more with the output stage than you did, IIRC. But the advice must be, never to turn a labour of love into a product, surely! :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42388 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Downloads From Linn
Foobar will downsample too. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Player as DAC recommendation?
The Resolution Audio Opus 21 is much admired, and has a digital input. It's somewhat over £2k, IIRC - over budget? -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=42020 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 6moons preview ModWright Transporter
seanadams;255997 Wrote: But hey, maybe I don't know my head from a hole in the wall if you think that's the case, go ahead and buy one of these modded TPs, and we can have a listen, see what's in it, and test their claims. It's a good response, Sean, but I would have thought that you would be interested in buying one and seeing if there is something in it. That is the ultimate test. You could even have A-B trials at your next open day, and demonstrate that the difference is euphonic distortion, and the the TP is better. Surely Logitech's budget would run to that? -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41756 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] 6moons preview ModWright Transporter
seanadams;256048 Wrote: Maybe. Or maybe based on what I know of the Transporter and of electrical engineering, I can be quite confident in my position with just the information at hand. Here's an analogy:snip Your analogy is a bit disingenuous - these mods are available, so you can test them, unlike your strings. seanadams;256048 Wrote: You don't think I have better things to do? the only reason I post in threads like this is because I don't want my customers to be misled. But after a certain point, if someone insists on believing despite all evidence to the contrary, I give up! You may have better things to do, but Slim Devices, a company producing an audiophile product, should have someone who investigates actual competing and complementary products. This is not some theory out there that the software version x has quantum alignment properties that sweeten the sound, it's an actual product that someone makes and people buy on the basis that it sounds better than yours. How much time would it really take? I don't believe that the Modwright (or whatever) mods are better than the stock TP; I haven't heard them, so I can hold no position. However, the more I see where you diss them without checking them out, the more I am sceptical about the TP! Would it not even be interesting to get the modders around and have some kind of challenge? Allow them to demonstrate the improvements, with neutral observers? This would be a fun event, and there's no downside for you - every TP modded is a TP sold by you! Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41756 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: a DAC and PSU ready-made upgrade
Never sure if classified posts are welcome here, so I'll do one anyway! :) Now I have shrunk my kitchen system (see the DIY section), a couple of bits are surplus to requirements: - A Skynet SNP-8080 PSU. This is a PSU that outputs 10A at 5V and 6A at 12V - ideal to be used with the SB3 plus a 12V DAC, say. It's boxed and has suitable flying leads for SB3 and DAC - A Derek Shek D2 DAC, which is an excellent little NOS (non-oversampling) DAC For details on these, see http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/nuukspot/decdun/gainclonesmps.html for the PSU http://www.sigtone.net/ for the DAC I'll sell these together, with a decent Blue Jeans digital interconnect, for £150 all-in, or nearest offer. UK only, delivery for a tenner. The parts alone would cost around £250. Here's a piccie of the DAC and PSU: [image: http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x67/AmDismal/R0010150.jpg] And here's one of the PSU with a white SB3: [image: http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x67/AmDismal/R0010143.jpg] The only barrier to complete plug-and-play is that the DAC power connector is slightly the wrong size - I used a 2.5mm connector, and I think the DAC needs something a bit smaller. It fits, but is a bit loose; easily remedied using a bit of sellotape PM if interested Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41795 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] FS: a DAC and PSU ready-made upgrade
now sold, thanks Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41795 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AccurateRip not working with EAC
Do you have the latest version of EAC? The AccurateRip integration is much better now - it took me just a few minutes to set up, a big difference from a year ago! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41638 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Beginner's Basic Setup - Home Theatre or Hi-Fi
1 - I would (indeed have) go for a music system, and plug the TV/DVD into it. This means no compromise on music, and IMO such systems are perfectly good for AV - you just need the ability to go fairly loud, really. If you watch lots of TV and films, maybe a surround system could work for you, but do you want all the extra speakers and cabling? That's why I got rid of mine. In terms of specific recs, I'm not too familiar with the Oz market. All my stuff is British, which may get expensive once import duty and the exchange rate are considered. Given your budget I would be looking at ebay and secondhand - you'll get a lot more for your money. 2 - you need powered speakers or an amp plus speakers. For a bedroom the former is smaller and neater; Audio Engines are recommended by some - try a search on this forum, you'll find loads! HTH Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41411 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Simply my audio life
agentsmith;251044 Wrote: OK I broke down and got sick of tuning all my equipment. Does the tuning make that much difference, or are you trying to, uh, polish a turd (to use an old Transporter-related phrase)? Spending lots of time and/or cash doing minor tweaks is indicative of mild paranoia or a system wrong for you. Try some radically different stuff, like valves - into full-range drivers if you like the F80! Buy more music. Try building your own kit. -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41315 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Gimell Records offers Professional Quality Downloads
23:19: gharris999;250733 Wrote: Moan about prices 23:54: gharris999;250738 Wrote: OK, I've talked myself into giving it a try. 35 minutes and they didn't even have time to respond. Show some backbone, man! My comment on price: you can buy these on Amazon for less than a tenner - why would I get the download at £9.99? I think that the studio master downloads should be under a tenner. (Indeed I am unconvinced that there should be a significant difference in price for studio masters too - the costs are the same, virtually. Why not just a quid extra?) How much does the studio see from the £10 CD sale? Three quid? Whereas they get all of the amount when using their own distribution system. They should be pushing this strongly, and pricing it aggressively - this can massively increase their revenues. Anyway, nice to see another joiner :) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41261 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Any changes to FW v.83 that would effect sound?
opaqueice;247034 Wrote: True - they're mostly well into their retirements. A mate's friend is retired and really very wealthy indeed. He has some huge Linn system, and every so often my mate or I get a call asking us to come listen to new speakers, or some such. Daddy is really rather hard of hearing, and cannot hear any difference at all, so he asks us to say if it sounds better, then buys off the back of that. Annoyingly, his system does sound very good indeed! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40762 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HD Music Downloads from iTrax
Dr. AIX;245193 Wrote: What would the meta data tags ideally be? Everyone has a different answer. IMO the best you can do is put a reasonable amount in the standard tags (artist, album, title etc), and stick the rest into the Comment tag. People who care will fill it out as they like. I like your idea of the customer choosing, but there is no way you will tag it the way I want it. Therefore, spending a lot of time here is kinda pointless. Anyone else like me will also customise the tags, whereas normal people will be happy with a middling system. Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34870 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Will Linn high resolution recordings play on an SB3?
Use Foobar to downsample them to 24/44.1 or 24/48 as appropriate rather than relying on the SB to do it properly (it doesn't). I have a few and they sound fantastic, but I imagine that the CDs do too - never compared them! Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40484 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Remember the Randi million dollar cable challenge?
Well we've proved that such a system is so good that it can get a great sound through any cables. Plus, that room looks pretty acoustically active, a DAB radio would probably sound good ;) [/Deliberate Flamebait] -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40387 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter playing 88 kHz files
RGibran;243509 Wrote: Adamslim. My apologies if I sounded like I was grilling you. Actually you answered my question quite simply and apparently accurately. I downloaded the Linn 24/88 test file and also purchased a 24/88 song and both play without a hitch. Transporter shows the correct file properties as well. I guess I'm just going to have to ask John Atkinson what the heck he means when he continually states Transporter will not handle files recorded at 88.2 kHz. Thanks, RG No offence taken :) I think the key point is that mainstream hifi reviewers are going to get out of their depth with the 'new' technology. Out of the box his review Transporter may not have handled 24/88, but there is a highly transparent system of firmware updates and a good team making things better. It's a very different paradigm from mainstream hifi, which has often instant obsolescence (DAB vs DAB+ anyone?) -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40315 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter playing 88 kHz files
It should play fine on the Transporter; if you want it on the SB3 then you should probably resample it down to 44.1, as the SB3 uses a rather simplistic system to play these (just skipping alternate samples, with no clever processing). There was also an old bug that made 24/88 FLAC files play at half speed, not sure if it applied to WMA. Many packages are surprisingly bad at providing true file information. SlimServer gets it wrong, so does Foobar and DBPowerAmp is not totally reliable, from memory, although is the best I used. Not sure if SS7 is any better, and never used WMP or Winamp. Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40315 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: speaker recomendations for approx �400
Even though you're not looking to spend huge amounts now, I would make my usual recommendation to people setting out on the path, as it were: get yourself to the next Heathrow hifi show (February or March maybe?) and have a listen. There is a surprising range of 'character' to different hifi systems, and dealers usually only stock their own favourite type. It's not really fair to go to each London dealer and spend four hours at each when you're only going to buy something that gives them £100 profit, so use the show to give yourself some guidance. You should be able to decide whether you like something that is edgy and exciting, spacious and atmospheric, detailed and precise or whatever adjectives you fancy. Even though you'll be listening to systems costing many times what yours will, this will help to guide you on the path. The worst case scenario you see is where people have spent loads on a sound that they don't really like, but keep improving their system marginally, rather than rethinking the system from the ground up (literally?). It's easy to make this an expensive hobby rather than a satisfying one. Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=40141 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe ted_b;241524 Wrote: My new Modwright tube-modded Transporter, as part of my 2 channel/HT system Comments on the sound most welcome (perhaps a separate thread?). Given the dollar rate I'm tempted to have a TP sent direct to Modwright, but it's a lot of money to spend without hearing it in advance, even if I could probably get it all back on ebay! Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR V20, Heybrook Sextets plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
