RE: Request for Review: Variables in CFML

2003-03-24 Thread Jim Davis
Thanks to Sean and Dave and others for lending a hand.  I've updated the
guide with corrections and suggestions:

http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

If you've got a minute I'd still some some more opinions.

Thanks in advance,

Jim Davis


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RE: Request for Review: Variables in CFML

2003-03-24 Thread Matt Robertson
Hi Jim,

Isn't it possible for CFMX to scale session vars across a cluster now?
You don't mention that, or I missed it (whether it's a good idea or not
is another matter entirely).

Did you hit on session management in a cluster?  If it were me I'd go
with client vars, but I guess using either client or session is now
possible.

Just a coupla thoughts at a godawful late (early for some) hour of the
morning.


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From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Request for Review: Variables in CFML


Thanks to Sean and Dave and others for lending a hand.  I've updated the
guide with corrections and suggestions:

http://www.depressedpress.com/DepressedPress/Content/ColdFusion/Guides/V
ariables/Index.cfm

If you've got a minute I'd still some some more opinions.

Thanks in advance,

Jim Davis



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(CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and when I
run it I get this error message:
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates a
programming error, either in your code or some system code.
Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries in it, no
problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
 langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
(Bolivia);
If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry, even as a
duplicate of 89, I get the error.
Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a simple 2
dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm using
UD3.
Thanks

Michael Dinowitz
Master of the House of Fusion
http://www.houseoffusion.com

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RE: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

/cfloop

this works fine for me.

WG

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?


I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and when
I
run it I get this error message:
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates
a
programming error, either in your code or some system code.
Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries in
it, no
problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
 langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
(Bolivia);
If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry, even as
a
duplicate of 89, I get the error.
Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a simple 2
dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
using
UD3.
Thanks

Michael Dinowitz
Master of the House of Fusion
http://www.houseoffusion.com


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RE: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
actually this does too

cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /
cfloop from=1 to=15 index=i 

cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

/cfloop

this works fine for me.

WG

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?


I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and when
I
run it I get this error message:
The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates
a
programming error, either in your code or some system code.
Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries in
it, no
problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
 langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
(Bolivia);
If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry, even as
a
duplicate of 89, I get the error.
Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a simple 2
dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
using
UD3.
Thanks

Michael Dinowitz
Master of the House of Fusion
http://www.houseoffusion.com



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Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
I modified and tested your code with no problem at all. I'm going to dig into
this code again and test it. Also, the array was inside a CFMODULE which may
have some effect. I'll find out soon.
Thanks


 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 /cfloop

 this works fine for me.

 WG

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and when
 I
 run it I get this error message:
 The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually indicates
 a
 programming error, either in your code or some system code.
 Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

 I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries in
 it, no
 problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
 The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
  langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
 (Bolivia);
 If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry, even as
 a
 duplicate of 89, I get the error.
 Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a simple 2
 dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
 using
 UD3.
 Thanks

 Michael Dinowitz
 Master of the House of Fusion
 http://www.houseoffusion.com


 
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RE: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
This works too.

cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

cfset myarray[i][1] = a#i# /
cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

cfdump var=#myarray[i]# /


/cfloop


Any chance this is an out-by-one error?

BTW I'm just updating to ud3

WG


-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


Did you try to access each array element on each loop iteration?


 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 /cfloop

 this works fine for me.

 WG

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and
when
 I
 run it I get this error message:
 The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
indicates
 a
 programming error, either in your code or some system code.
 Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

 I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries in
 it, no
 problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
 The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
  langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
 (Bolivia);
 If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry, even
as
 a
 duplicate of 89, I get the error.
 Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a simple
2
 dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
 using
 UD3.
 Thanks

 Michael Dinowitz
 Master of the House of Fusion
 http://www.houseoffusion.com




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2003-03-24 Thread Scott Wilhelm
Would someone be able to suggest a textarea (WYSIWYG) editor that will
work in Mac IE 5?
 
Thanks!

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Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
OK, this is stranger than hell even though I got it to work.
Basically, the error is thrown when a CFMODULE is called that has a certain
amount of code in it. On first examination, it looks like it was the array size
as limiting the array size causes the template to run OK. This was proven not to
be the issue in experimentation. Additional tests made it look like ANY call to
the large array from within a CFOUTPUT was causing a problem. Very strange. One
thing that I tried was to remove the
cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=YES
from the template and all of a sudden it worked. Something with that tag and
either the size of the array or the size of the template (or even the size of
the result code) caused a strange error.
Once I get some sleep I'll try to write this one up and submit it to MM.


 This works too.

 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = a#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 cfdump var=#myarray[i]# /


 /cfloop


 Any chance this is an out-by-one error?

 BTW I'm just updating to ud3

 WG


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 Did you try to access each array element on each loop iteration?


  cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /
 
  cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 
 
  cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
  cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
  cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /
 
  /cfloop
 
  this works fine for me.
 
  WG
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?
 
 
  I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and
 when
  I
  run it I get this error message:
  The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
 indicates
  a
  programming error, either in your code or some system code.
  Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.
 
  I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries in
  it, no
  problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
  The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
   langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
  (Bolivia);
  If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry, even
 as
  a
  duplicate of 89, I get the error.
  Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a simple
 2
  dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
  using
  UD3.
  Thanks
 
  Michael Dinowitz
  Master of the House of Fusion
  http://www.houseoffusion.com
 
 
 

 
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RE: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
Any chance this is max java class code issue?

Breaking up the code into functions might help test the issue.
Sean has something in this blog about this limit

WG

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


OK, this is stranger than hell even though I got it to work.
Basically, the error is thrown when a CFMODULE is called that has a certain
amount of code in it. On first examination, it looks like it was the array
size
as limiting the array size causes the template to run OK. This was proven
not to
be the issue in experimentation. Additional tests made it look like ANY call
to
the large array from within a CFOUTPUT was causing a problem. Very strange.
One
thing that I tried was to remove the
cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=YES
from the template and all of a sudden it worked. Something with that tag and
either the size of the array or the size of the template (or even the size
of
the result code) caused a strange error.
Once I get some sleep I'll try to write this one up and submit it to MM.


 This works too.

 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = a#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 cfdump var=#myarray[i]# /


 /cfloop


 Any chance this is an out-by-one error?

 BTW I'm just updating to ud3

 WG


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 Did you try to access each array element on each loop iteration?


  cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /
 
  cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 
 
  cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
  cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
  cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /
 
  /cfloop
 
  this works fine for me.
 
  WG
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?
 
 
  I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and
 when
  I
  run it I get this error message:
  The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
 indicates
  a
  programming error, either in your code or some system code.
  Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.
 
  I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries
in
  it, no
  problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
  The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
   langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
  (Bolivia);
  If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry,
even
 as
  a
  duplicate of 89, I get the error.
  Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a
simple
 2
  dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
  using
  UD3.
  Thanks
 
  Michael Dinowitz
  Master of the House of Fusion
  http://www.houseoffusion.com
 
 
 



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RE: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
Should be...max java class size issue?

-Original Message-
From: webguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: (CFMX) Array Max size?


Any chance this is max java class code issue?

Breaking up the code into functions might help test the issue.
Sean has something in this blog about this limit

WG

-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:
Sent: 24 March 2003 13:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


OK, this is stranger than hell even though I got it to work.
Basically, the error is thrown when a CFMODULE is called that has a certain
amount of code in it. On first examination, it looks like it was the array
size
as limiting the array size causes the template to run OK. This was proven
not to
be the issue in experimentation. Additional tests made it look like ANY call
to
the large array from within a CFOUTPUT was causing a problem. Very strange.
One
thing that I tried was to remove the
cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=YES
from the template and all of a sudden it worked. Something with that tag and
either the size of the array or the size of the template (or even the size
of
the result code) caused a strange error.
Once I get some sleep I'll try to write this one up and submit it to MM.


 This works too.

 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = a#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 cfdump var=#myarray[i]# /


 /cfloop


 Any chance this is an out-by-one error?

 BTW I'm just updating to ud3

 WG


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 Did you try to access each array element on each loop iteration?


  cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /
 
  cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 
 
  cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
  cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
  cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /
 
  /cfloop
 
  this works fine for me.
 
  WG
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?
 
 
  I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and
 when
  I
  run it I get this error message:
  The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
 indicates
  a
  programming error, either in your code or some system code.
  Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.
 
  I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries
in
  it, no
  problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
  The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
   langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
  (Bolivia);
  If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry,
even
 as
  a
  duplicate of 89, I get the error.
  Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a
simple
 2
  dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
  using
  UD3.
  Thanks
 
  Michael Dinowitz
  Master of the House of Fusion
  http://www.houseoffusion.com
 
 
 




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Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Dinowitz
The code in question is a setup of the array, a loop over it with an if and an
output in it. I'll read Sean's blog to see if it fits but it's really simple
stuff which is why it took me the time it did to hunt down what was up.
Thanks

 Any chance this is max java class code issue?

 Breaking up the code into functions might help test the issue.
 Sean has something in this blog about this limit

 WG

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 OK, this is stranger than hell even though I got it to work.
 Basically, the error is thrown when a CFMODULE is called that has a certain
 amount of code in it. On first examination, it looks like it was the array
 size
 as limiting the array size causes the template to run OK. This was proven
 not to
 be the issue in experimentation. Additional tests made it look like ANY call
 to
 the large array from within a CFOUTPUT was causing a problem. Very strange.
 One
 thing that I tried was to remove the
 cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=YES
 from the template and all of a sudden it worked. Something with that tag and
 either the size of the array or the size of the template (or even the size
 of
 the result code) caused a strange error.
 Once I get some sleep I'll try to write this one up and submit it to MM.


  This works too.
 
  cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /
 
  cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 
 
  cfset myarray[i][1] = a#i# /
  cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
  cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /
 
  cfdump var=#myarray[i]# /
 
 
  /cfloop
 
 
  Any chance this is an out-by-one error?
 
  BTW I'm just updating to ud3
 
  WG
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 24 March 2003 13:24
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?
 
 
  Did you try to access each array element on each loop iteration?
 
 
   cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /
  
   cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 
  
   cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
   cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
   cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /
  
   /cfloop
  
   this works fine for me.
  
   WG
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?
  
  
   I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) and
  when
   I
   run it I get this error message:
   The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
  indicates
   a
   programming error, either in your code or some system code.
   Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.
  
   I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 entries
 in
   it, no
   problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
   The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = Spanish
   (Bolivia);
   If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry,
 even
  as
   a
   duplicate of 89, I get the error.
   Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a
 simple
  2
   dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. I'm
   using
   UD3.
   Thanks
  
   Michael Dinowitz
   Master of the House of Fusion
   http://www.houseoffusion.com
  
  
  
 
 

 
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Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Nick de Voil
 Should be...max java class size issue?

It's reminiscent of a problem I've had using JSP custom tags in JRun, where
the compilation would fail if you had too many custom tag invocations in a
page. The only solution seemed to be to split the source up using JSP
includes - quite annoying at the time.

I think the error message there talked about illegal target of jump or
branch.

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TextArea (WYSIWYG) Editor

2003-03-24 Thread Darrell Arjune
here is a list of editors
http://www.bris.ac.uk/is/projects/cms/ttw/ttw.html
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Accessing JS variables in CF?

2003-03-24 Thread Bosky, Dave
I have a form field called Zip and want to lookup/populate the city/state
fields 
based on the zipcode entered. I'm thinking of using an onblur event to call
the
following JS function. Question how can I access the variable passed to the
JS
function inside a CF query? Is there a better way of accomplishing this
lookup?

CFPARAM name=vZip default=
CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=Zip  SIZE=5 MAXLENGTH=5
onBlur=zipLookup(this.form.Zip)

script language=JavaScript
function zipLookup(zipcode) {
if ((zipcode == ) || (zipcode.length  5) || (zipcode.length  5)) {
alert('Please enter a five digit zipcode!');
document.Log.zip.value = '';
document.Log.zip.focus();
return false;
}
else
/script
CFSET vZip = script language=JavaScriptzipcode/script

CFQUERY name=qZipLook datasource=dsn
SELECT City, State 
FROM tbl_zipcodes
WHERE zipcode = Trim(Variables.vZip) 
/CFQUERY
CFIF IsDefined(qZipLook.RecordCount) AND qZipLook.RecordCount EQ
1
AND Variables.vZip is not 
script language=JavaScript
document.Log.City.value =
'cfoutput#qZipLook.City#/cfoutput';
document.Log.State.value =
'cfoutput#qZipLook.State#/cfoutput';
/script
/CFIF
script language=JavaScript
return true;
}
/script

thanks,
Dave




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RE: Accessing JS variables in CF?

2003-03-24 Thread Dan G. Switzer, II
Dave,

You can't inter-mingle server-side code (CF) and client-side code (JS.) CF
runs strictly on the server, while the JS in this example runs strictly on
the client-side.

You can use techniques like covered in my article Client-to-Server
Communication Using DHTML--which is at:

http://www.pengoworks.com/index.cfm?action=articles:gatewayApi

To simplify the work, I've written a Gateway JavaScript API (JSAPI) which
can be downloaded at:
http://www.pengoworks.com/workshop/js/gateway/

Conveniently enough, I even have included examples to do what you're trying
to do:
http://www.pengoworks.com/workshop/js/gateway/zipcode.htm

Hope this helps!

-Dan


 -Original Message-
 From: Bosky, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Accessing JS variables in CF?
 
 I have a form field called Zip and want to lookup/populate the city/state
 fields
 based on the zipcode entered. I'm thinking of using an onblur event to
 call
 the
 following JS function. Question how can I access the variable passed to
 the
 JS
 function inside a CF query? Is there a better way of accomplishing this
 lookup?
 
 CFPARAM name=vZip default=
 CFINPUT TYPE=text NAME=Zip  SIZE=5 MAXLENGTH=5
 onBlur=zipLookup(this.form.Zip)
 
 script language=JavaScript
 function zipLookup(zipcode) {
 if ((zipcode == ) || (zipcode.length  5) || (zipcode.length  5)) {
   alert('Please enter a five digit zipcode!');
   document.Log.zip.value = '';
   document.Log.zip.focus();
   return false;
 }
 else
 /script
   CFSET vZip = script language=JavaScriptzipcode/script
 
   CFQUERY name=qZipLook datasource=dsn
   SELECT City, State
   FROM tbl_zipcodes
   WHERE zipcode = Trim(Variables.vZip)
   /CFQUERY
   CFIF IsDefined(qZipLook.RecordCount) AND qZipLook.RecordCount EQ
 1
   AND Variables.vZip is not 
   script language=JavaScript
   document.Log.City.value =
 'cfoutput#qZipLook.City#/cfoutput';
   document.Log.State.value =
 'cfoutput#qZipLook.State#/cfoutput';
   /script
   /CFIF
 script language=JavaScript
 return true;
 }
 /script
 
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CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Ian Skinner
The question I have, is there any performance advantages and/or
disadvantages to one large CFC file versus several smaller ones?  I'm
writing an application using a CFC for all my administration database tasks.
Currently I have everything in one CFC file.  The tasks could probably be
logically broken up into three or four smaller CFC files by function type.
My question is there any performance reason to do this?  The single large
file will probably top out at about 20K, does this add to the overhead of
any template calling on the CFC?

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using string functions on extended characters (CF5)

2003-03-24 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Hi, Would anyone happen to know how I can uppercase extended characters
in CF5?

Using the Ucase function does not work. Unfortunately it has to be done
in cf as opposed to on the db.

Any suggestions?

Thanks 


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Timeout/restart

2003-03-24 Thread Cathy Taylor
Hi all!

I just want to make sure I'm not missing something here. We have our
server (CF 5.0 on Solaris) set to timeout requests at 30 seconds and
restart the server after 3 long-running requests. We've found this to be
optimal if the server hangs due to one application losing a datasource
(and we have several different apps and can't let one bring them all
down). However, I just realized that it also counts requests exceeding
the set time that have the URL parameter of RequestTimeout=XXX (above
what the admin is set at). 

This seems like a flaw because there are pages that will always run
above the admin setting and I can't have the thing restarting every 3 of
them. You would think it would overlook the ones specifically stating
they will run longer. Otherwise the whole process stops and session
variables are lost. Is there a workaround or something I'm missing?

Thanks!

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RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Ryan Emerle
Your best bet is to separate CFCs into their logical parts.  This will aid in 
usuability and readablity.  Performance differences would be negligable(sp?).

Remember that CFCs are components and most developers will see them as that.  So 
instead of having one big CFC for ecommerce app, you would have a component for each 
component of the ecommerce application (customers,orders,cart,etc..).

My $0.02
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Subject: CFC Performance Best Practice


The question I have, is there any performance advantages and/or
disadvantages to one large CFC file versus several smaller ones?  I'm
writing an application using a CFC for all my administration database tasks.
Currently I have everything in one CFC file.  The tasks could probably be
logically broken up into three or four smaller CFC files by function type.
My question is there any performance reason to do this?  The single large
file will probably top out at about 20K, does this add to the overhead of
any template calling on the CFC?

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Web Programmer
BloodSource
Sacramento, CA


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RE: JetNexus for IIS

2003-03-24 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
Bill:

I've never used (or even heard) of them, but you might also check out the
following article before buying JetNexus:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/20020716.asp

It describes how to activate the compression that is built into IIS.  It
also suggests a different third-party app, XCompress
(http://www.xcompress.com/) for compression.  See the following link for a
review of XCompress and a nice example of it in action:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com/articles/20020907.asp

Note, I've not used XCompress either, so don't consider this a
recommendation.  Just some sources for more info/options.

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 Subject: JetNexus for IIS


 http://www.preactholdings.com/performance/

 Anyone use this software we're looking at using this software for
 compression on our CF servers anyone have any thoughts and comments?


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OT: LInk

2003-03-24 Thread Tangorre, Michael
sorry all.. i couldn't resist.

http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/


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A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint presentation...

2003-03-24 Thread Jeff
Raymond,

I was reading over your Powerpoint presentation last week (ColdFusionMX
Application Security), and I just remembered something I had a quick
question about...

On the last page of the presentation you have the following:

Extra ­ Cookie-less Security

Pass encrypted key in URL
Like cookie-less session
Use session variable
Need to pass session.urlToken
Need to coordinate session/login timeout.

I was just wondering what this was referring to, and if maybe you could
expand a little more on it...Specifically the Pass encrypted key in URL
part. Also the pass session.urlToken part too...what's the deal with that?

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RE: LInk

2003-03-24 Thread Tony Weeg
that's some good shite :)

...tony

Tony Weeg
Senior Web Developer
UnCertified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
Information System Design
Navtrak, Inc.
Mobile workforce monitoring, mapping  reporting
www.navtrak.net
410.548.2337 

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OT: COLDFUSION w/ UNIX + SYBASE = NEWJOB (NYC)

2003-03-24 Thread Igor Ilyinsky
I realize this is not the ideal list for this post, but I checked the
cf-jobs list and saw a tumbleweed rolling by.

There is a job opening at a Major Investement Brokereage firm in midtown
NYC (If you know my history, you may guess which one).

It pays well (considering the times) but is a great opportunity to get
your foot in the door in the IB world (which I can attest, if market
conditions improve, means MUCHO DINERO in the future).

They are looking for an experienced CFer, with lots of RDBMS experience
(Preferably Sybase, then MS SQL).
Experience with Unix is KEY, and so is a general understanding of the
old skool Mainframe world (PowerBuilder Huge Plus).
At leas 5 years experience in client/server technology, or someone
willing to fib about this (a little).

If you are interested, please send an email OFFLIST to:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
or to me directly. Be sure to mention my name (IGOR ILYINSKY) and your
chances improve (I'm not shitting you).

Good Luck!!! and pass it on

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Re: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 07:24 US/Pacific, Ian Skinner wrote:
 The question I have, is there any performance advantages and/or
 disadvantages to one large CFC file versus several smaller ones?

Not really (in terms of real-world, under load performance).

 Currently I have everything in one CFC file.  The tasks could probably 
 be
 logically broken up into three or four smaller CFC files by function 
 type.

In terms of maintainability and readability - which should generally be 
overwhelming concerns - you almost certainly want to break your CFC up 
into more logical components.

Whilst I don't want to minimize performance issues, they really should 
take a back seat to maintainability issues. Remember that 
macromedia.com's back end is built heavily on CFCs using design 
patterns and a lot of good OO practice - and it handles over 15,000 
active sessions during peak traffic.

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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CFLOOP, another way?

2003-03-24 Thread Javadeveloper123
Hi,

When you use the cfhttp tag to post information to a web page, at the same time as you 
are using the cfloop tag, the page will submit the wrong number of variables to the 
page depending on which iteration you are going through in the loop. For example, if 
you are on the second iteration of the loop, the page will post two sets of variables, 
if you are on the third iteration it will submit three sets of variables. I’m not 
sure why. It may be a problem with one of the cf tags, or a problem that occurs when 
the two tags interact. I'm not sure if there is another possible way to perform the 
same functionality as the cfloop, iteration, without using the cfloop tag or maybe 
there is another possible solution to this? 

Here is an example of the problem.

CFLOOP INDEX = n FROM = 1 TO = 2


CFHTTP METHOD = POST URL = 
http://www.computing.surrey.ac.uk/cgi-bin/R.Peel/getpost.pl; PATH = c:\ FILE = 
result#n#.html

CFHTTPPARAM TYPE = FORMFIELD NAME = user VALUE = hello
CFHTTPPARAM TYPE = FORMFIELD NAME = 'product VALUE = product1

/CFHTTP

/CFLOOP

The url above submits two variables to a page. This page tells you what variables were 
submitted. Two files are generated. In the first it shows that one set of variables 
were submitted. In the second “result2.html” it shows that two sets of variables 
were submitted. I think if I can find another way to perform a loop, I will not have 
to use these two tags together, but there may be another solution.



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RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Tim Blair
 macromedia.com's back end is built heavily on CFCs using design 
 patterns and a lot of good OO practice - and it handles over
 15,000 active sessions during peak traffic.

Speaking of which, is there going to be a run down of how it was
developed?  Showing best practices etc in developing large sites with
CFMX, CFCs, Flash etc?  Or is there one already that I've missed?  I've
seen the info on what's been done, but not HOW it's been done?

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RE: CFLOOP, another way?

2003-03-24 Thread Dave Watts
 When you use the cfhttp tag to post information to a web 
 page, at the same time as you are using the cfloop tag, the 
 page will submit the wrong number of variables to the page 
 depending on which iteration you are going through in the 
 loop. For example, if you are on the second iteration of the 
 loop, the page will post two sets of variables, if you are on 
 the third iteration it will submit three sets of variables. 
 IâEUR(tm)m not sure why. It may be a problem with one of the cf 
 tags, or a problem that occurs when the two tags interact. 
 I'm not sure if there is another possible way to perform the 
 same functionality as the cfloop, iteration, without using 
 the cfloop tag or maybe there is another possible solution 
 to this?

I haven't run into this problem, but it seems to me that you may be able to
avoid the problem by putting your CFHTTP stuff in a custom tag (or CFC, in
CFMX), then looping over that.

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Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
Yup, that would be it. My guess is that the array initialization 
generates enough code that it would exceed the Java class size limit 
but it interacts with the enableCFoutputOnly setting in a way that 
prevents the error occurring when it generates output...

Edit the appropriate XML file to allow the generated Java code to hang 
around so you can see the difference in the generated code...

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 05:57 US/Pacific, webguy wrote:

 Any chance this is max java class code issue?

 Breaking up the code into functions might help test the issue.
 Sean has something in this blog about this limit

 WG

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 OK, this is stranger than hell even though I got it to work.
 Basically, the error is thrown when a CFMODULE is called that has a 
 certain
 amount of code in it. On first examination, it looks like it was the 
 array
 size
 as limiting the array size causes the template to run OK. This was 
 proven
 not to
 be the issue in experimentation. Additional tests made it look like 
 ANY call
 to
 the large array from within a CFOUTPUT was causing a problem. Very 
 strange.
 One
 thing that I tried was to remove the
 cfsetting EnableCFOutputOnly=YES
 from the template and all of a sudden it worked. Something with that 
 tag and
 either the size of the array or the size of the template (or even the 
 size
 of
 the result code) caused a strange error.
 Once I get some sleep I'll try to write this one up and submit it to 
 MM.


 This works too.

 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = a#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 cfdump var=#myarray[i]# /


 /cfloop


 Any chance this is an out-by-one error?

 BTW I'm just updating to ud3

 WG


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:24
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 Did you try to access each array element on each loop iteration?


 cfset myarray = arraynew(2) /

 cfloop from=1 to=1500 index=i 

 cfset myarray[i][1] = index#i# /
 cfset myarray[i][2] = test xx /
 cfset myarray[i][3] = text xx /

 /cfloop

 this works fine for me.

 WG

 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 13:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: (CFMX) Array Max size?


 I've got a 2 dimensional array (well, it's actually someone else's) 
 and
 when
 I
 run it I get this error message:
 The system has attempted to use an undefined value, which usually
 indicates
 a
 programming error, either in your code or some system code.
 Null Pointers are another name for undefined values.

 I've traced the problem to the array itself. When there are 89 
 entries
 in
 it, no
 problem. Once a 90th entry is added, it chokes.
 The 89th entry looks like this (in CFSCRIPT):
  langs[89][1] = F;  langs[89][2] = es-bo;  langs[89][3] = 
 Spanish
 (Bolivia);
 If I cut out every entry over 89, no problem. If I add a 90th entry,
 even
 as
 a
 duplicate of 89, I get the error.
 Can someone else please test out their CFMX system for this? Just a
 simple
 2
 dimensional array with 3 items per row. See what the max is for you. 
 I'm
 using
 UD3.
 Thanks

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Looping list in batch mode: best way?

2003-03-24 Thread webmaster
We are being passed a comma delimited list with thousands of records...want
to break into batches of 100.  

With cfloop list=listname delimiters=, you can't specify a range of
1-100 can you?  What is the best way to handle this situation?

Idea is then we would then update the database table to reflect it has been
used, and not use again, then rerun the query which returns a list by
design.  This seems long and overly complex.

Thanks a million!!

Regards,

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Re: (CFMX) Array Max size?

2003-03-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 06:12 US/Pacific, Nick de Voil wrote:
 It's reminiscent of a problem I've had using JSP custom tags in JRun, 
 where
 the compilation would fail if you had too many custom tag invocations 
 in a
 page. The only solution seemed to be to split the source up using JSP
 includes - quite annoying at the time.

 I think the error message there talked about illegal target of jump or
 branch.

Yup, a Java limitation - you had too much inline code (which was why 
splitting it into include files solved the problem).

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RE: using string functions on extended characters (CF5) [solved]

2003-03-24 Thread Kola Oyedeji
If any else should come across this problem...

There is hot fix which addresses it at:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18135.htm

Thanks to all those who replied :-(


Kola


 -Original Message-
 From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 24 March 2003 15:26
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: using string functions on extended characters (CF5)
 
 Hi, Would anyone happen to know how I can uppercase extended
characters
 in CF5?
 
 Using the Ucase function does not work. Unfortunately it has to be
done
 in cf as opposed to on the db.
 
 Any suggestions?
 
 Thanks
 
 
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Re: CFLOOP, another way?

2003-03-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 08:44 US/Pacific, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
 When you use the cfhttp tag to post information to a web page, at the 
 same time as you are using the cfloop tag, the page will submit the 
 wrong number of variables to the page depending on which iteration you 
 are going through in the loop.

Yup, I've hit that problem. See my blog for a possible solution 
(courtesy of Brandon Purcell):

http://www.corfield.org/blog/archives/2003_01.html#41

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Re: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 08:52 US/Pacific, Tim Blair wrote:
 macromedia.com's back end is built heavily on CFCs using design
 patterns and a lot of good OO practice - and it handles over
 15,000 active sessions during peak traffic.
 Speaking of which, is there going to be a run down of how it was
 developed?  Showing best practices etc in developing large sites with
 CFMX, CFCs, Flash etc?  Or is there one already that I've missed?  I've
 seen the info on what's been done, but not HOW it's been done?

Yes, we will be publishing a series of articles on Macromedia DevNet. 
My article on facades hints at some of the structure behind the site 
(at a very high level):

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/flashremoting/articles/facades.html

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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

2003-03-24 Thread Murat Demirci
When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there is
no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
the problem occurs. Similarly when I use cflocation url=#unicode_string#
in a page the problem repeats.

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

Murat Demirci wrote:
 I'm  working on IIS.

WFM

http://cfmx.oli.tudelft.nl/url.cfm

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Re: Request for Review: Variables in CFML

2003-03-24 Thread jon hall
Monday, March 24, 2003, 11:46:36 AM, you wrote:

SAC Client variables are restricted to simple data types, session variables 
SAC can be anything (including CFCs). That alone may be sufficient reason 
SAC to prefer session variables to client variables. Also, with client 
SAC variables, you are restricted to cookies (increasing download / get / 
SAC post time), registry (very bad!) or a database (serialization overhead 
SAC and data access times). I can't see the appeal of client variables so 
SAC I'd be interested to hear from folks - like Matt - who use them and 
SAC prefer them to session variables.

Pre MX, session variables required locking, and pre 5.0 they were
pretty unreliable imo. After being burned by disappearing session
variables, pccode errors, and very strange locking issues/bugs in
4.0/4.5 I swore them off.

Only very recently in MX have I started using them to hold cfcs.

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CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Mike Brunt
Sean just wanted to revisit something, which is sort of related in a way.
Am I right in my assumption that nested CFINCLUDES/CUSTOM TAGS cause
performance issues in CFMX?  I am fully aware that they are bad coding
practice but just wanted to clarify this point.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
Web Site http://www.webapper.com
Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper Web Application Specialists

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC Performance Best Practice

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 07:24 US/Pacific, Ian Skinner wrote:
 The question I have, is there any performance advantages and/or
 disadvantages to one large CFC file versus several smaller ones?

Not really (in terms of real-world, under load performance).

 Currently I have everything in one CFC file.  The tasks could probably
 be
 logically broken up into three or four smaller CFC files by function
 type.

In terms of maintainability and readability - which should generally be
overwhelming concerns - you almost certainly want to break your CFC up
into more logical components.

Whilst I don't want to minimize performance issues, they really should
take a back seat to maintainability issues. Remember that
macromedia.com's back end is built heavily on CFCs using design
patterns and a lot of good OO practice - and it handles over 15,000
active sessions during peak traffic.

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Re: Request for Review: Variables in CFML

2003-03-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Personally I've always used client vars because of the less than stellar
track record of session vars and clustered servers.  If this issue has gone
away with CFMX, then I may look at session vars again (as they sure can make
life easier) ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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- Original Message -
From: Sean A Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 8:46 AM
Subject: Re: Request for Review: Variables in CFML


 On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 02:57 US/Pacific, Matt Robertson wrote:
  Isn't it possible for CFMX to scale session vars across a cluster now?

 Yes, since you can use J2EE session variables and leverage the
 scalability of the underlying J2EE system.

  Did you hit on session management in a cluster?  If it were me I'd go
  with client vars, but I guess using either client or session is now
  possible.

 Client variables are restricted to simple data types, session variables
 can be anything (including CFCs). That alone may be sufficient reason
 to prefer session variables to client variables. Also, with client
 variables, you are restricted to cookies (increasing download / get /
 post time), registry (very bad!) or a database (serialization overhead
 and data access times). I can't see the appeal of client variables so
 I'd be interested to hear from folks - like Matt - who use them and
 prefer them to session variables.

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Re: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 09:30 US/Pacific, Mike Brunt wrote:
 Am I right in my assumption that nested CFINCLUDES/CUSTOM TAGS cause
 performance issues in CFMX?  I am fully aware that they are bad coding
 practice but just wanted to clarify this point.

News to me... both that they supposedly cause performance issues and 
that they are bad coding practice... could you clarify for me?

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scrolling banner ads?

2003-03-24 Thread Jon Block
I realize this isn't quite the right place for this question but I'm sure
many of you know the answer. Geocities home pages have a banner in the top
right that will expand when you click on the expand  collapse buttons. I
remember it used to actually scroll along the right side of the page as the
user moved the scroller around. Either way, does anybody know where I can
get a watered down example of how that works? I looked into the source code
and its a ton of Javascript that I don't want to spend the rest of my life
weeding through.

Thanks!
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OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
render correctly in IE?

http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp

thanks!

-mk


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RE: scrolling banner ads?

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
Actually there was a similiar widget in the examples shipped with CF4.5, the
surf shop example i think?


WG

-Original Message-
From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 17:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: scrolling banner ads?


I realize this isn't quite the right place for this question but I'm sure
many of you know the answer. Geocities home pages have a banner in the top
right that will expand when you click on the expand  collapse buttons. I
remember it used to actually scroll along the right side of the page as the
user moved the scroller around. Either way, does anybody know where I can
get a watered down example of how that works? I looked into the source code
and its a ton of Javascript that I don't want to spend the rest of my life
weeding through.

Thanks!
-Jon

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RE: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread Mike Brunt
Ok Sean, on the performance I read that somewhere but cannot recall where,
when I do I will point it out.  With regard to coding bad practice I have no
doubts that multiple layers of nested includes-custom tags are bad practice
as they make code very hard to read and follow.  Our opinion here at
Webapper is that all who see our code should be able to fully understand
what we did, how and why and even with the best of commenting multi-level
nested includes are very hard to follow.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
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Blog http://www.webapper.net

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-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 09:30 US/Pacific, Mike Brunt wrote:
 Am I right in my assumption that nested CFINCLUDES/CUSTOM TAGS cause
 performance issues in CFMX?  I am fully aware that they are bad coding
 practice but just wanted to clarify this point.

News to me... both that they supposedly cause performance issues and
that they are bad coding practice... could you clarify for me?

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Re: IBM JRE with ColdFusion MX

2003-03-24 Thread Christian Cantrell
I'm using IBM's 1.3.1 in a production CFMX environment with very good 
results:

--
[www:cantrell]$ java -version
java version 1.3.1
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.3.1)
Classic VM (build 1.3.1, J2RE 1.3.1 IBM build cxia32131-20021102 (JIT 
enabled: jitc))
--

Christian

On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 06:07 PM, Ruggiero, Kevin D wrote:

 I downloaded IBM JRE 1.3.0 to use with ColdFusion MX.  I'm now getting 
 some
 errors: javax/crypto/a (classdef not found).  Anybody else get this JRE
 working with coldfusion mx?  If so, did you have the same problems?

 Any info is VERY much appreciated!!!


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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Jason Miller
since i don't have to much time - I glanced at browser view only - no 
source - And you have text all collapsing on each other - most often 
that is the result of a display property.
display: none
display: block
display: inline
etc
OR position:asbolute vs position:relative.

It looks as if you need a display:block so the elements on the right 
don't overlap the space set aside for the elements on the left.

Also - if your not using float: left - the items from right can overlap 
left.

Also - it is possible you need clear:right - depending on how you have 
your div's and such set up.

Or - if your using some positioning attributes in . style properties 
which really should be # class .

It looks like it may even be a combination of each of those. I recommend 
going to alistapart.com - reading some of their 2 column tutorials.
hope that helps
jay miller



Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:
 Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
 render correctly in IE?
 
 http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
 
 thanks!
 
 -mk
 
 
 
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Possible bug in Updater 3

2003-03-24 Thread Marius Milosav
We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:
cfquery name =q datasource = #dsn#
   select id from  table
/cfquery
the id is integer 1;2; 3

cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater 2
and 3
if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:
cfwddx action=cfml2wddx input=#q# output=session.wddxQuery

cfwddx action=wddx2cfml input=#session.wddxQuery# output=q

now:

cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return
1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

Thanks

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RE: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Joshua Miller
You're using Absolute Positioning and they're all set to be left:5px

Absolute means absolute from the top/left corner of the browser, not
from the DIV that they're contained within.

Change the two DIVs inside the SideBar DIV from left:5px to left:130px;

Also, instead of setting your height for the SideBar DIV to 1000px, try
just using 100% instead. That way if your content is longer than 1000px
the SideBar will still render.

Good luck!

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From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: css, dhtml question


Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
render correctly in IE?

http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp

thanks!

-mk



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Re: scrolling banner ads?

2003-03-24 Thread charlie griefer
Jon: 

check out http://www.dynamicdrive.com 

hth,
charlie 

Jon Block writes: 

 I realize this isn't quite the right place for this question but I'm sure
 many of you know the answer. Geocities home pages have a banner in the top
 right that will expand when you click on the expand  collapse buttons. I
 remember it used to actually scroll along the right side of the page as the
 user moved the scroller around. Either way, does anybody know where I can
 get a watered down example of how that works? I looked into the source code
 and its a ton of Javascript that I don't want to spend the rest of my life
 weeding through. 
 
 Thanks!
 -Jon
 
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RE: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

2003-03-24 Thread webguy
Actually I disagree with this.

It is true that breaking up code into smaller blocks that are contained in
several files can make code hard to follow. Sometime you go from

 template - includes - tags - storedprocs - to database - triggers..

which can be pretty confusing.

However the benefit of this approch becomes evident when you start changing
code.
And good documentation will help you here...

Of course there is a difference between good abstraction and just writting
spaghetti code, and I've written both:-)

WG

-Original Message-
From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 March 2003 18:01
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice


Ok Sean, on the performance I read that somewhere but cannot recall where,
when I do I will point it out.  With regard to coding bad practice I have no
doubts that multiple layers of nested includes-custom tags are bad practice
as they make code very hard to read and follow.  Our opinion here at
Webapper is that all who see our code should be able to fully understand
what we did, how and why and even with the best of commenting multi-level
nested includes are very hard to follow.

Kind Regards - Mike Brunt
Webapper Services LLC
Web Site http://www.webapper.com
Blog http://www.webapper.net

Webapper Web Application Specialists

-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:35 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFINCLUDES and RE: CFC Performance Best Practice

On Monday, Mar 24, 2003, at 09:30 US/Pacific, Mike Brunt wrote:
 Am I right in my assumption that nested CFINCLUDES/CUSTOM TAGS cause
 performance issues in CFMX?  I am fully aware that they are bad coding
 practice but just wanted to clarify this point.

News to me... both that they supposedly cause performance issues and
that they are bad coding practice... could you clarify for me?

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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Thanks Jay - it's not my code (I'm not a CSS guy at all) - but the author
greatly appreciates your insight.

-Original Message-
From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


since i don't have to much time - I glanced at browser view only - no
source - And you have text all collapsing on each other - most often
that is the result of a display property.
display: none
display: block
display: inline
etc
OR position:asbolute vs position:relative.

It looks as if you need a display:block so the elements on the right
don't overlap the space set aside for the elements on the left.

Also - if your not using float: left - the items from right can overlap
left.

Also - it is possible you need clear:right - depending on how you have
your div's and such set up.

Or - if your using some positioning attributes in . style properties
which really should be # class .

It looks like it may even be a combination of each of those. I recommend
going to alistapart.com - reading some of their 2 column tutorials.
hope that helps
jay miller



Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote:
 Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
 render correctly in IE?

 http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp

 thanks!

 -mk




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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Barney Boisvert
Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about putting a
footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a table.  I've
had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the main content
pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page correctly.
I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the page scrolls,
at least on IE6.

Use JS to set it dynamically?

footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;

that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.

barneyb

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 -Original Message-
 From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


 may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...

 it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
 lazy to look
 :)

 charlie

 Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:

  Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
  render correctly in IE?
 
  http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
 
  thanks!
 
  -mk
 
 
 
 
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RE: A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint presentation...

2003-03-24 Thread Raymond Camden
I'm trying to remember myself - guess I should learn to use the Notes
field a bit more. ;)

I believe the idea was to hack your own session.urltoken. Basically,
every link would have x=YYY, where Y would be an encrypted form of
the username and password. Then you would decrypt the value and relogin
using cflogin each hit. Of course, that could be dangerous if someone
breaks your encryption. 

As for the session thing - what you would do is simply store the
username and password (and roles) in session values, then use
session.urlToken. This would be a bit simpler for sure, although you
would want to use the UUID for Session Token setting.

Hope that makes sense.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint 
 presentation...
 
 
 Raymond,
 
 I was reading over your Powerpoint presentation last week 
 (ColdFusionMX Application Security), and I just remembered 
 something I had a quick question about...
 
 On the last page of the presentation you have the following:
 
 Extra - Cookie-less Security
 
 Pass encrypted key in URL
 Like cookie-less session
 Use session variable
 Need to pass session.urlToken
 Need to coordinate session/login timeout.
 
 I was just wondering what this was referring to, and if maybe 
 you could expand a little more on it...Specifically the Pass 
 encrypted key in URL part. Also the pass session.urlToken 
 part too...what's the deal with that?
 
 
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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Jason Miller
Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it much easier - 
and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and 
longer pages it simply displays at end.

If you needed to actually attach a footer to the bottom of the browser 
- something like
div id=FooterAbs style=position: absolute; bottom: 0px; z-index: 300;
would work.

I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can 
overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the 
bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content beyone 
viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.

Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one case I used it 
- I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs on browser 
versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.

hope that helps
jay miller

Barney Boisvert wrote:
 Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about putting a
 footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a table.  I've
 had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the main content
 pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page correctly.
 I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
 browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the page scrolls,
 at least on IE6.
 
 Use JS to set it dynamically?
 
 footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
 contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
 
 that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
 
 barneyb
 
 ---
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 AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 voice : 360.671.8708 x12
 fax   : 360.647.5351
 
 www.audiencecentral.com
 
 
-Original Message-
From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...

it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
lazy to look
:)

charlie

Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:


Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
render correctly in IE?

http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp

thanks!

-mk




 
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CFMX Webservices hangup

2003-03-24 Thread Tyler Silcox
Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?  We have a 
application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever the webservice 
can't connect to the remote server, it creates a server-crashing thread that 
eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared box, so we're in a panic trying to get 
it fixed...any ideas?

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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Tim Laureska
Barney... just a suggestion... check out these CSS lists:
http://four.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/css-foundations
http://www.css-discuss.org/mailman/listinfo/css-d


-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question

Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about putting
a
footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a table.
I've
had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the main
content
pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
correctly.
I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the page
scrolls,
at least on IE6.

Use JS to set it dynamically?

footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;

that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.

barneyb

---
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AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.671.8708 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com

 -Original Message-
 From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


 may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...

 it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
 lazy to look
 :)

 charlie

 Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:

  Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page
doesn't
  render correctly in IE?
 
  http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
 
  thanks!
 
  -mk
 
 
 
 

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RE: Possible bug in Updater 3

2003-03-24 Thread Collin Tobin
Marius-

I'm currently looking into this.  For now, I can see right away that if you name your 
output something other than q when converting wddx2cfml, which is the name of your 
original query, you should get your desired output.

Thanks.


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From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Possible bug in Updater 3


We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:
cfquery name =q datasource = #dsn#
   select id from  table
/cfquery
the id is integer 1;2; 3

cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater 2
and 3
if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:
cfwddx action=cfml2wddx input=#q# output=session.wddxQuery

cfwddx action=wddx2cfml input=#session.wddxQuery# output=q

now:

cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return
1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

Thanks

Marius Milosav
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RE: TextArea (WYSIWYG) Editor

2003-03-24 Thread Philip Arnold
 Would someone be able to suggest a textarea (WYSIWYG) editor
 that will work in Mac IE 5?

ActivEdit from CFDev works on Mac and NS now, and with no plug in

Although, the older Mac and NS versions are Java and very limited


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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup

2003-03-24 Thread Bryan F. Hogan
You can check it via the factory service. But this is probably unavailable
to you on a shared host. Why not wrap your web service call with
cftry/cfcatch


Bryan F. Hogan
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Macromedia Certified ColdFusion MX Developer
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1-877-72DIGITAL


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From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup


Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?
We have a application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever
the webservice can't connect to the remote server, it creates a
server-crashing thread that eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared
box, so we're in a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler




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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup

2003-03-24 Thread Mosh Teitelbaum
I'm assuming you've wrapped the cal in a try/catch block?  You can always
use CFHTTP to try to access the webservice and, on successful connect, use
CFINVOKE to actually consume the service.  It means making 2 hits to the web
service tho...

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 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup


 Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before
 you call it?  We have a application on a shared server, and as
 far as we can tell whenever the webservice can't connect to the
 remote server, it creates a server-crashing thread that
 eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared box, so we're in
 a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

 Tyler



 
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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup

2003-03-24 Thread Robert Bailey
This is a complete hack, and I am sure there may be a better way to do it,
but when I call a service, I go ahead and retrieve the WSDL via CFHTTP,
www.thedomain.com/smoething.cfc?wsdl and if there is a connection error I
will not try to consume the service.

Thanks!
Robert Bailey
Famous for nothing


-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup


Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?
We have a application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever
the webservice can't connect to the remote server, it creates a
server-crashing thread that eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared
box, so we're in a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler




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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

2003-03-24 Thread Murat Demirci
I'm not sure now whether it is a CF MX problem or not. It might be a browser
problem.

Any more ideas?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2003 5:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

 Do you know CF MX has still problems with Unicode and other charsets.

hardly any.

 When I use setEncoding(url,utf-8), CF MX displays some double-byte
(the
 unicode number over than 255) as nothing. It displays nothing.

show some code.



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RE: Possible bug in Updater 3

2003-03-24 Thread Collin Tobin
I retract that workaround--sorry.  I will file a bug.


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-Original Message-
From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Possible bug in Updater 3


We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:
cfquery name =q datasource = #dsn#
   select id from  table
/cfquery
the id is integer 1;2; 3

cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater 2
and 3
if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:
cfwddx action=cfml2wddx input=#q# output=session.wddxQuery

cfwddx action=wddx2cfml input=#session.wddxQuery# output=q

now:

cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return
1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

Thanks

Marius Milosav
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CFMX Upgrade Issue and Solution

2003-03-24 Thread Dave Sueltenfuss
Good afternoon,

I just upgraded my production web server to CFMX Pro this past weekend, and
encountered an interesting error I wished to share with the group

On of the functions that we use CF for is web based reporting from the
Lawson Financial Package, including a PO Printout form. Before the upgrade,
the PO Print worked without any issues. After the upgrade, certain PO's
would not printout for us, and instead returned the following error.

Error Executing Database Query.[MERANT][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC
Socket][Oracle][ODBC]Restricted data type attribute violation. The specific
sequence of files included or processed is:
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Dev\Lawson\poscreen.cfm 
As you can see, the error message does not make much sense. We went so far
as to restore the Test server to CF 5 and make sure that the page worked
properly on the previous version. After much research, we found that the
error was linked to the case statement below.

CASE
when lawson.poline.taxable_flag = 'Y' Then
(((lawson.poline.tax_code/100)*lawson.poline.taxbl_unt_cst)*
lawson.poline.quantity)
End  as taxamt

The statement above does not include an else statement. For some reason, CF
5 Pro did not care about this, but CF MX was returning an error, even though
the page compiled fine.  Once the else statement was added, the problem went
away.

I just wanted to share this issue and solution with the group, in case
anyone else comes across a similar issue

Any questions, please let me know

Thanks
 
Dave Sueltenfuss
Application Developer
Arch Wireless
Phone: 508-870-6711
Fax: 508-870-8011
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Barney Boisvert
Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal for an
IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm trying to keep
the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
possible.  I have a base page set up like this:

+---+
|   |
+---+---+---+
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
+---+---+---+
|   |
+---+

The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and they might be
added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy using absolute
positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that footer bar at
the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I don't know
how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
renders them.

I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll find another way,
but it seems like this should be possible.

thanks,
barneyb

---
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AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.671.8708 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


 Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it much easier -
 and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
 longer pages it simply displays at end.

 If you needed to actually attach a footer to the bottom of the browser
 - something like
 div id=FooterAbs style=position: absolute; bottom: 0px;
 z-index: 300;
 would work.

 I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
 overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
 bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content beyone
 viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.

 Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
 IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one case I used it
 - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs on browser
 versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.

 hope that helps
 jay miller

 Barney Boisvert wrote:
  Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
 putting a
  footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
 table.  I've
  had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
 main content
  pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
 correctly.
  I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
  browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
 page scrolls,
  at least on IE6.
 
  Use JS to set it dynamically?
 
  footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
  contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
 
  that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
 
  barneyb
 
  ---
  Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
  AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  voice : 360.671.8708 x12
  fax   : 360.647.5351
 
  www.audiencecentral.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
 
 
 may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...
 
 it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
 lazy to look
 :)
 
 charlie
 
 Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
 
 
 Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this page doesn't
 render correctly in IE?
 
 http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
 
 thanks!
 
 -mk
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Possible bug in Updater 3

2003-03-24 Thread Marius Milosav
Hi Collin,

Thanks for the quick response.
Actually the real name  of the query is not q. I just used q for the
example and the behavior still the same.


thanks
Marius Milosav
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From: Collin Tobin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: Possible bug in Updater 3


 Marius-

 I'm currently looking into this.  For now, I can see right away that if
you name your output something other than q when converting wddx2cfml,
which is the name of your original query, you should get your desired
output.

 Thanks.


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 -Original Message-
 From: Marius Milosav [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:59 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Possible bug in Updater 3


 We have seen the following change in behavior in cfmx updater 3:
 cfquery name =q datasource = #dsn#
select id from  table
 /cfquery
 the id is integer 1;2; 3

 cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return 1,2,3 in cfmx updater
2
 and 3
 if the query is converted to a wddx package and converted back to a query:
 cfwddx action=cfml2wddx input=#q# output=session.wddxQuery

 cfwddx action=wddx2cfml input=#session.wddxQuery# output=q

 now:

 cfoutput#valueList (q.id)#/cfoutput will return
 1.0,2.0,3.0 in updater 3 and it causing a lot of problems.

 Can anybody (MM) confirm this behavior

 Thanks

 Marius Milosav
 www.scorpiosoft.com
 It's not about technology, it's about people.
 Virtual Company (VICO) Application Demo
 www.scorpiosoft.com/vicodemo/login.cfm


 
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RE: Request for Review: Variables in CFML

2003-03-24 Thread Matt Robertson
Sean wrote:
 I'd be interested to hear from folks - like Matt - who use them and 
 prefer them to session variables.

You can pretty much take Jon Hall's post and add 'me too' to that.  I
had horrifying experiences with disappearing session vars, mostly
related to code running on shared servers and the instability that comes
from relying on memory-based storage.  

Using cvars for session management insulated my apps from cf service
restarts, even cold reboots, so long as the next page request falls
within the inactivity-based 'session' expiration the app still retains
the user's session.  

Now, that's not the same environment as a cluster at all, but take that
and couple it to the hoops necessary to jump thru when using an app that
requires a lot of persistent vars (i.e. Step 1: copy to request scope.
Step 2 process Step 3 copy back to session scope, and use locks... Or
lock everything individually everywhere) compared to the relative
simplicity of simply using cvars in code.  

I never missed the inability to store complex values given the ability
to use CFWDDX to handle that issue.  This is extra coding just like the
locking I was whining about above, but my frequency of need for complex
values isn't anything like the frequency associated with locking, and
planning efficient use of same.

I've never had a site that had high enough traffic to be able to notice
the load coming off the cvar storage db, so I can't say at what point a
cvar-based session management scheme will fall down where a svar-based
one will not.

To me, cvars are simpler to use and are, in my admittedly not
all-encompassing experience, inherently more stable given their more
permanent storage medium (a db, of course).

Question: CFMX uses J2EE's session variables.  I'm not up on this at
all, but doesn't that mean I have to be using the much more expensive
Enterprise for J2EE?  

Happy Monday :)


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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

2003-03-24 Thread Murat Demirci
Found a solution!

CF MX has no bug! When I use a cflocation tag, I'll use URLEncodedFormat
function with a second hidden parameter encoding like:

cflocation url=url.cfm?text=#URLEncodedFormat(myUnicodeText,utf-8)#

URLEncodedFormat function converts double-byte chars to equivalent forms.
Very good!

But why URLEncodedFormat doesn't use the utf-8 by default? Or why
setEncoding(URL,UTF-8) function doesn't affect the URLEncodedFormat
function?

-Original Message-
From: Murat Demirci [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there is
no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
the problem occurs. Similarly when I use cflocation url=#unicode_string#
in a page the problem repeats.

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

Murat Demirci wrote:
 I'm  working on IIS.

WFM

http://cfmx.oli.tudelft.nl/url.cfm

Jochem



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RE: CFMX Webservices hangup

2003-03-24 Thread Ezine
Tyler,

perhaps if you CFHTTP to it first as a test with a timeout of 10 seconds of
something of that nature?  And, if an error occurs, trap it with cftry and
cfcatch..  and then display a message that states, Sorry the x service
is not available now.  Check back in a few hours.   The CFHTTP would only
check if there is an issue contacting the server.   If the server is up..
but the page is returning a blank html page..  you may also want to
interrogate the contents of the page before you call the
web-service(cfhttp.filecontent) for a line of code that stays static..
(perhaps the XML declaration?).

-Zine

-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Webservices hangup


Is there any way to check to see if a webservice exists before you call it?
We have a application on a shared server, and as far as we can tell whenever
the webservice can't connect to the remote server, it creates a
server-crashing thread that eventually brings ColdFusion.  It's on a shared
box, so we're in a panic trying to get it fixed...any ideas?

Tyler




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Supposedly Fixed Bug Not Fixed?

2003-03-24 Thread Dave Carabetta
 Sorry for the double post, but I originally sent this on Sunday, where 
the low traffic might have missed this 

In the Release Notes for U3, it claims that Bug 49064 which was The cfwddx 
tag did not properly handle packets marked as version 0.9 was fixed.

However, while running CFMX for JRun with U3, I'm still receiving the
following error:

WDDX packet parse error at line 1, column -1. Relative URI wddx_0090.dtd;
can not be resolved without a base URI..

Is anybody with a patched machine (standalone or MX for J2EE) and using WDDX 
running into this error?

Thanks,
Dave.


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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question


Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal for an
IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm 
trying to keep
the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
possible.  I have a base page set up like this:

+---+
|   |
+---+---+---+
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
|   |   |   |
+---+---+---+
|   |
+---+

The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and 
they might be
added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy 
using absolute
positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that 
footer bar at
the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I 
don't know
how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
renders them.


perhaps you can run an onload event that looks at the hieghts and computes a new 
postion for this footer

Doug


I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll 
find another way,
but it seems like this should be possible.

thanks,
barneyb

---
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AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
voice : 360.671.8708 x12
fax   : 360.647.5351

www.audiencecentral.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question


 Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it 
much easier -
 and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
 longer pages it simply displays at end.

 If you needed to actually attach a footer to the bottom of 
the browser
 - something like
 div id=FooterAbs style=position: absolute; bottom: 0px;
 z-index: 300;
 would work.

 I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
 overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
 bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content beyone
 viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.

 Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
 IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one 
case I used it
 - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs 
on browser
 versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.

 hope that helps
 jay miller

 Barney Boisvert wrote:
  Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
 putting a
  footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
 table.  I've
  had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
 main content
  pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
 correctly.
  I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied to the
  browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
 page scrolls,
  at least on IE6.
 
  Use JS to set it dynamically?
 
  footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
  contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
 
  that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
 
  barneyb
 
  ---
  Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
  AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  voice : 360.671.8708 x12
  fax   : 360.647.5351
 
  www.audiencecentral.com
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
 
 
 may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...
 
 it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
 lazy to look
 :)
 
 charlie
 
 Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
 
 
 Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why 
this page doesn't
 render correctly in IE?
 
 http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
 
 thanks!
 
 -mk
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: JetNexus for IIS

2003-03-24 Thread Adam Churvis
Before you do anything, Bill, give me a call and I'll get you a trial
version of our product LoRCAT, the Load Reduction and Concentration Analysis
Tool for ColdFusion.  It not only performs a compile-time compression of all
your ColdFusion, JS, CSS, SQL, etc., but it surgically analyzes your entire
code base and shows you exactly where to concentrate your performance
enhancement efforts.  The speed increases are pretty phenomenal after you go
through LoRCAT's Analysis and Production cycles.

We haven't really formally announced it yet because our new site to sell it
isn't up yet, but I can extend your trial period until the end of April to
get around that problem.

Respectfully,

Adam Phillip Churvis
Member of Team Macromedia

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Re: A Quick Question to Raymond RE: Your PowerPoint presentation...

2003-03-24 Thread Jeff
on 3/24/03 1:40 PM, Raymond Camden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm trying to remember myself - guess I should learn to use the Notes
 field a bit more. ;)
 
 I believe the idea was to hack your own session.urltoken. Basically,
 every link would have x=YYY, where Y would be an encrypted form of
 the username and password. Then you would decrypt the value and relogin
 using cflogin each hit. Of course, that could be dangerous if someone
 breaks your encryption.
 
 As for the session thing - what you would do is simply store the
 username and password (and roles) in session values, then use
 session.urlToken. This would be a bit simpler for sure, although you
 would want to use the UUID for Session Token setting.
 
 Hope that makes sense.

Yeah, it does. I ran across that bit this weekend and was curious how you
tied up the presentation, and if anything you had added there at the end was
something worthwhile following up on. It was, and I'm glad you remembered...

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RE: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

2003-03-24 Thread Murat Demirci
I'm IE 6 with SP 1 and the option Send URL strings as unicode is checked.


-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 9:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

Murat Demirci wrote:
 When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there
is
 no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
 the problem occurs. Similarly when I use cflocation url=#unicode_string#
 in a page the problem repeats.

Most likely you are not using unicode in the address bar. Are you sure 
your browser is not submitting the string in whatever encodig is native 
for it? What do the URLEncoded query_strings look like?

Jochem


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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

2003-03-24 Thread Matt Robertson
Read Paragraph 4 of their terms of use (the link at the bottom of the maps home page). 
 You can't reproduce the map, nor can you use it for any commercial purpose.

---
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-- Original Message --
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Has anyone incorporated Yahoo! maps on their website. I have a site with property 
listings and want to use their map service to plot a map for the user. Any permission 
issues or licensing I should be aware of with using this?

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RE: Looping list in batch mode: best way?

2003-03-24 Thread Philip Arnold
 We are being passed a comma delimited list with thousands of
 records...want to break into batches of 100.

 With cfloop list=listname delimiters=, you can't specify
 a range of 1-100 can you?  What is the best way to handle
 this situation?

 Idea is then we would then update the database table to
 reflect it has been used, and not use again, then rerun the
 query which returns a list by design.  This seems long and
 overly complex.


You could use ListToArray() and go through in blocks of 100

That way you can break it into whatever chunks you find works best for
you


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OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

2003-03-24 Thread ecreese
Has anyone incorporated Yahoo! maps on their website. I have a site with property 
listings and want to use their map service to plot a map for the user. Any permission 
issues or licensing I should be aware of with using this?

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RE: Looping list in batch mode: best way?

2003-03-24 Thread Ben Doom
If it were me, I'd take the list and turn it into an array.  You could then
(for example) store the array in a persistent scope (ie session, client,
application) and specify start and stop variables in a for-type loop.

HTH.


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: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:54 AM
: To: CF-Talk
: Subject: Looping list in batch mode: best way?
:
:
: We are being passed a comma delimited list with thousands of
: records...want
: to break into batches of 100.
:
: With cfloop list=listname delimiters=, you can't specify a range of
: 1-100 can you?  What is the best way to handle this situation?
:
: Idea is then we would then update the database table to reflect
: it has been
: used, and not use again, then rerun the query which returns a list by
: design.  This seems long and overly complex.
:
: Thanks a million!!
:
: Regards,
:
: Eric J. Hoffman
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:
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Re: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Barney Boisvert wrote:
 
 +---+
 |   |
 +---+---+---+
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 +---+---+---+
 |   |
 +---+
 
 The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
 static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and they might be
 added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy using absolute
 positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that footer bar at
 the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
 overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I don't know
 how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
 renders them.

http://www.alistapart.com/stories/flexiblelayouts/

Jochem


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Re: RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread ksuh
IE5+ has something called expressions that will do what you need.

Go to MSDN Library - Web development - HTML and Dynamic HTML - SDK Documentation - 
About Dynamic Properties

- Original Message -
From: Barney Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:11 pm
Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question

 Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal 
 for an
 IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm trying 
 to keep
 the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
 possible.  I have a base page set up like this:
 
 +---+
 |   |
 +---+---+---+
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 +---+---+---+
 |   |
 +---+
 
 The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the 
 footer is
 static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and they 
 might be
 added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy 
 using absolute
 positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that footer 
 bar at
 the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
 overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because I 
 don't know
 how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
 renders them.
 
 I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll find 
 another way,
 but it seems like this should be possible.
 
 thanks,
 barneyb
 
 ---
 Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
 AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 voice : 360.671.8708 x12
 fax   : 360.647.5351
 
 www.audiencecentral.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
 
 
  Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it much 
 easier -
  and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
  longer pages it simply displays at end.
 
  If you needed to actually attach a footer to the bottom of the 
 browser - something like
  div id=FooterAbs style=position: absolute; bottom: 0px;
  z-index: 300;
  would work.
 
  I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
  overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
  bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get content 
 beyone viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.
 
  Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
  IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one case I 
 used it
  - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs on 
 browser versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't 
 interrupt.
  hope that helps
  jay miller
 
  Barney Boisvert wrote:
   Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
  putting a
   footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
  table.  I've
   had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
  main content
   pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
  correctly.
   I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be tied 
 to the
   browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
  page scrolls,
   at least on IE6.
  
   Use JS to set it dynamically?
  
   footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
   contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
  
   that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
  
   barneyb
  
   ---
   Barney Boisvert, Senior Development Engineer
   AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   voice : 360.671.8708 x12
   fax   : 360.647.5351
  
   www.audiencecentral.com
  
  
  -Original Message-
  From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
  
  
  may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...
  
  it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
  lazy to look
  :)
  
  charlie
  
  Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
  
  
  Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why this 
 page doesn't
  render correctly in IE?
  
  http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
  
  thanks!
  
  -mk
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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Re: CFMX cannot handle charset for URL variables

2003-03-24 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Murat Demirci wrote:
 When I type a unicode string in the form field and submit the form, there is
 no problem. However when I type the same unicode string in the address bar
 the problem occurs. Similarly when I use cflocation url=#unicode_string#
 in a page the problem repeats.

Most likely you are not using unicode in the address bar. Are you sure 
your browser is not submitting the string in whatever encodig is native 
for it? What do the URLEncoded query_strings look like?

Jochem

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CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

2003-03-24 Thread Robert Shaw
I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

2003-03-24 Thread ecreese
I am not trying to reproduce it simply opening a blank page to the Yahoo! Map
page giving Yahoo! full credit.

Still a no go?

 Read Paragraph 4 of their terms of use (the link at the bottom of the
maps home page).  You can't reproduce the map, nor can you use it for any commercial
purpose.



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Parsing HTML files w/ ColdFusion

2003-03-24 Thread Austin Govella
I want to parse html file extensions using ColdFusion MX. Or, in other 
words, I want to name all of my CF files with .html extensions. So how do 
I do this?

I tried to add .html to the server extension list using the same .dll the 
server uses to process the .cfm files. Unfortunately, I get an error 
whenever I try and open an .html file:

The document contains no data.

Did I map the extension incorrectly? Is there something I missed?

Many thanks
--
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Automatic File List in Database

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Pool
How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported into a
database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is created?

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RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

2003-03-24 Thread Lincoln Milner
Well, from an Oracle standpoint, 8.1.7 is the only RDBMS that is still supported by 
Oracle (except under their extended contracts).  9i offers some good things with 
administration tasks, but, if you're interested in an 8x solution, my vote would be 
8.1.7.

As far as native vs. OBDC, I would use Native, since I remember (at least back in the 
days of CF 4.01) that Native drivers were faster than ODBC.  That may be different 
now, but I always try to use native if available.

FWIW,
-lincoln

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Subject: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

2003-03-24 Thread Dave Lyons
its not yahoo maps but I have something for mapquest
I have a real estate company and I use it to map the properties
I have submitted it to www.dwfaq.com as a snippet but I don't think they
have posted it yet.
if you want it let me know and I will post it

Dave
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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps


 Has anyone incorporated Yahoo! maps on their website. I have a site with
property listings and want to use their map service to plot a map for the
user. Any permission issues or licensing I should be aware of with using
this?

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RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

2003-03-24 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
we use 8.1.7 solely and extensively.  We are using the Micrsoft ODBC drivers too.  We 
get good results and stability.  We use the native drivers only if we need to mess 
with CLOBS.  A Ray Thompson on this list or the CFDJLIST said he has done abit of 
testing and found the M$ drivers good.  YMMV

DOUG

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From: Robert Shaw [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if 
anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 
and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

Rob







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Re: Automatic File List in Database

2003-03-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the
database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on how
current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's not
too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the
file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you
would get it in the database initially).

HTH

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
Subject: Automatic File List in Database


 How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported into
a
 database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
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RE: OT: css, dhtml question

2003-03-24 Thread Buckland, Ramon
Barney,

I worked on a web application once that worked 
(and looked) almost identical to what you have there.

We used DHTML (DynAPI a JS Library) and it gave 
height's etc of the DIV's after content had been set..
thus being able to put footers at the bottom.

my point, yes it can be done, if DynAPI had the numbers available to
see then the browser has them.. take a look in
the DynAPI library and see how they did it.

specifically the setHTML() function somewher 
(been about 2 years sorry)


 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2003 6:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: OT: css, dhtml question
 
 
 Perhaps a better explaination is in order.  The app is internal for an
 IE5.5+ only audience.  It's quite visually complex, and I'm 
 trying to keep
 the number of page loads down as the presentation changes as much as
 possible.  I have a base page set up like this:
 
 +---+
 |   |
 +---+---+---+
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 |   |   |   |
 +---+---+---+
 |   |
 +---+
 
 The top 4 content areas all have variable content, while the footer is
 static.  As well, the top 4 areas might not all be there, and 
 they might be
 added or removed client-side.  This is all working just dandy 
 using absolute
 positioning and hiding stuff.  However, I need to slap that 
 footer bar at
 the bottom, and I need it to start below the other content areas (no
 overlap).  I can't figure out a good way to do that, because 
 I don't know
 how tall the middle 3 areas are (if they are present) until the client
 renders them.
 
 I might well be pursueing a pipe-dream, in which case I'll 
 find another way,
 but it seems like this should be possible.
 
 thanks,
 barneyb
 
 ---
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 AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
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 fax   : 360.647.5351
 
 www.audiencecentral.com
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jason Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:53 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
 
 
  Personally - I handle footers in .cfm includes.. I find it 
 much easier -
  and simply it includes it at the end of the code. So on shorter and
  longer pages it simply displays at end.
 
  If you needed to actually attach a footer to the bottom 
 of the browser
  - something like
  div id=FooterAbs style=position: absolute; bottom: 0px;
  z-index: 300;
  would work.
 
  I added z-index more for demonstration - The issue is - that you can
  overalp content. Unlike using an include - that will put it at the
  bottom no matter what - you will need to scroll to get 
 content beyone
  viewable screen -but footer will hang on to the bottom edge.
 
  Use it carefully because there are almost always some trouble spots.
  IF your footer can overlap content - not a biggie. In one 
 case I used it
  - I assigned z-index of -100 ( which also has it's own bugs 
 on browser
  versions) so on shorter page content the footer didn't interrupt.
 
  hope that helps
  jay miller
 
  Barney Boisvert wrote:
   Totally unrelated, but on the same topic.  How might I go about
  putting a
   footer bar at the bottom of my page using CSS, rather than a
  table.  I've
   had no problems with topbars, sidebars (either side) and the
  main content
   pane(s), but I can't get stuff to sit at the bottom of the page
  correctly.
   I tried 'bottom' (complementing top) but it seems to be 
 tied to the
   browser's size, not the page's size, which doesn't work if the
  page scrolls,
   at least on IE6.
  
   Use JS to set it dynamically?
  
   footerbar.style.top = Math.max(menubar.style.height,
   contentpane.style.height) + topbar.style.height;
  
   that seems like a horrible way to do it to me.
  
   barneyb
  
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   AudienceCentral (formerly PIER System, Inc.)
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  -Original Message-
  From: charlie griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 10:18 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: OT: css, dhtml question
  
  
  may want to give the div class=sidebar a width...
  
  it might defined in the 'sidebar' class in the .css...i was too
  lazy to look
  :)
  
  charlie
  
  Mark A. Kruger - CFG writes:
  
  
  Can someone give me the quick and dirty answer on why 
 this page doesn't
  render correctly in IE?
  
  http://www.thelifegate.net/Pages/ClassReg.asp
  
  thanks!
  
  -mk
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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RE: Automatic File List in Database

2003-03-24 Thread Barney Boisvert
Is performance a huge issue?  If it's not, just use the database named 'the
filesystem' and 'query' it with CFDIRECTORY rather than CFQUERY.  If that
won't work for whatever reason, you'd have to use a scheduled task to use
CFDIRECTORY and refresh the database periodically.  The former will result
in instant updates with no administrative overhead, the latter will be
faster for recalling, but cost to maintain the database.

barneyb

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 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Pool [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Automatic File List in Database


 How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names
 imported into a
 database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file
 is created?

 
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Re: Automatic File List in Database

2003-03-24 Thread Bryan Stevenson
Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB?  Why not just
use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always current and
there is no maintenance required.

Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-)

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


 Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the
 database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on how
 current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's not
 too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes the
 file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you
 would get it in the database initially).

 HTH

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 t. 250.920.8830
 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Pool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
 Subject: Automatic File List in Database


  How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported
into
 a
  database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
 created?
 
 
 
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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

2003-03-24 Thread Scott Brady
-- Original Message --
From: Dave Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
its not yahoo maps but I have something for mapquest

I'm doing a real estate site for my realtor and looked at Mapquest for mapping the 
neighborhood he focuses on.  However, the MapQuest TOS are similar to Yahoo's and 
reproducing the maps on a commercial site go against the TOS.  (In my case, the map 
will be updatable by my client on his admin site, and I'm putting in bold text that 
they need to verify that the map is not covered by copyright or other restrictions.  I 
can't stop him from posting a MapQuest map, but I can't say he wasn't warned, either.)

Scott

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Re: OT - Incorporating Yahoo! Maps

2003-03-24 Thread Matt Robertson
Hot without violating the 'non-commercial' part of their licensing.  Thats the kicker.

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-- Original Message --
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I am not trying to reproduce it simply opening a blank page to the Yahoo! Map
page giving Yahoo! full credit.

Still a no go?

 Read Paragraph 4 of their terms of use (the link at the bottom of the
maps home page).  You can't reproduce the map, nor can you use it for any commercial
purpose.



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Re: Automatic File List in Database

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Pool
The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions in another
field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files
have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with
paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display them
in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files is the main
thing.



- Original Message -
From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


 Now that I think of it...why store the file list in the DB?  Why not just
 use CFDIRECTORY when the list is needed...that way it's always current and
 there is no maintenance required.

 Of course you may have some reason to store it, but there ya go ;-)

 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 t. 250.920.8830
 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -
 Macromedia Associate Partner
 www.macromedia.com
 -
 Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
 Founder  Director
 www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: Automatic File List in Database


  Well you could use CFDIRECTORY to get the file list and store it in the
  database.  To keep that list current is another matter.  It depends on
how
  current the list needs to be (or how often the files change).  If it's
not
  too frequently you could have a scheduled task that routinely deletes
the
  file list from the database and sticks in the current list (same way you
  would get it in the database initially).
 
  HTH
 
  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  t. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  -
  Macromedia Associate Partner
  www.macromedia.com
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  Founder  Director
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  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Pool [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:36 PM
  Subject: Automatic File List in Database
 
 
   How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported
 into
  a
   database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
  created?
  
  
 
 
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MORE Automatic File List in Database with description

2003-03-24 Thread Michael Pool
Q: How would be the easiest way to get a directories file names imported
into a database and keep them updated automatically whenever a new file is
created?
The file list holds images and drawings, which need descriptions in
another
field in order to be selected. There are thousands of files and the files
have strange naming conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with
paths and a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display them
in the page with their descriptions.

I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing the files a must. I don't know
how
CFDIRECTORY could do that

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RE: Automatic File List in Database

2003-03-24 Thread Philip Arnold
 The file list holds images and drawings, which need
 descriptions in another field in order to be selected. There
 are thousands of files and the files have strange naming
 conventions. Best I can figure, I need a field with paths and
 a field with descriptions, so I can call them up and display
 them in the page. I tried using CFDIRECTORY, but describing
 the files is the main thing.

If the description isn't always going to be there, then why not have the
location and file name, plus the description in the database, that way
you can reference it for those that it needs

Then use a Query of Query to join the CFDIRECTORY result to the
information in the database

Would that work?


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RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices

2003-03-24 Thread Ruggiero, Kevin D
I've found bugs with the Oracle odbc drivers (version 8.1.7.0).  With some
data I'd get cursor errors.  After upgrading to MX and using native jdbc
drivers, I am no longer experiencing these errors.  I suggest you use native
drivers- the ODBC drivers were buggy for me.  Also, 8.1.7.0 is a good idea
because for reasons stated below.

-Original Message-
From: Lincoln Milner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:46 PM
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Subject: RE: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


Well, from an Oracle standpoint, 8.1.7 is the only RDBMS that is still
supported by Oracle (except under their extended contracts).  9i offers some
good things with administration tasks, but, if you're interested in an 8x
solution, my vote would be 8.1.7.

As far as native vs. OBDC, I would use Native, since I remember (at least
back in the days of CF 4.01) that Native drivers were faster than ODBC.
That may be different now, but I always try to use native if available.

FWIW,
-lincoln

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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 4:26 PM
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Subject: CF 5 Oracle Best Pactices


I'm about to configure a CF 5 machine and was wondering if anyone knows the 
best version of Oracle to use with CF 5 - 8.0 vs 8.1.6 or 7 and if I should 
use native or ODBC. Any insight into best practices or experiences is 
appreciated - TIA!

Rob








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