Re: [Chevelle-list] Q-Jet Carb
Cliff Ruggles at Cliffs Q-Jets. He did my q-jet and I could not be more pleased. He has a web site but I don't know what it is. His phone #740-397-2921--- On Thu 01/18, John W. Lonadier, Jr. lt; [EMAIL PROTECTED] gt; wrote: From: John W. Lonadier, Jr. [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 22:10:30 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Q-Jet Carb I haven't tried them yet but I have heard good things about, I am not sure of the name, Jet Performance. They also have three levels of Q-Jet carbs. I was thinking about getting one of their Q-Jets later. John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob n CheriSent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:13 PMTo: chevelle-listSubject: [Chevelle-list] Q-Jet Carb I want to put a Q-Jet back on my SS454 so I can use my original air cleaner.It won't work with the Holley I have now. I was thinking Jet Streetmaster but dont if I should go with a stage 2 or 3. Also was looking for one of those Edelbrock 850 Q-Jets but haven't run across one. Anyone have an Edelbrock 850 they want to get rid of? How about recommendations for another good source for a performance Q-Jet? Thanks, Bob Belz
Re: [Chevelle-list] 14 X6 RIMS
Are they for sale? What year are they from? steel wheels, mags?--- On Sun 06/18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:15:42 -0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] 14 X6 RIMSI have a set (5) 14x6 rims that I removed from my chevelle.J. Max Whatley
Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06
I'll be there Wed. night. Red Roof here too. Scott (red 68 Elcamino)On Wed 05/17, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:38:07 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] CB06 I'll be there, staying at the Red Roof as well. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] Magazines available
I would be interested in the Chevelle World Mags. Scott--- On Sun 05/07, Herb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Herb Lumpp [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:01:21 -0400Subject: [Chevelle-list] Magazines availableIt pains me to do this, but since we're moving very soon and I need tolighten the load some, I'm thinning out my magazine collection. I'm gettingrid of anything older than Dec '99. The oldest ones I have go back to sometime in 1986, so don't worry, there's no classics going to the round file.Free to good home, you pay shipping:Hot RodCar CraftPopular Hot RoddingSuper ChevyChevy High PerformanceChevelle WorldSport RiderHerb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud
The regular SBC shroud will not work. It is not wide enough (left to fight). The width is the same as a BBC but the BBC shroud is not deep enough (front to back). Scott--- On Wed 05/03, Kevin Riel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Riel [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Wed, 3 May 2006 05:00:05 -0700Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud Ok... all of this makes sense. Does anyone know what the difference is for the 68 w/AC and the heavy duty radiator? Do you think the regular 68 small block shroud would work? Thanks for the help so far! Kevin Riel - Original Message - From: Scott To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:31 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud FYI There is not a reproduction nor is it available from GM for 68 w/AC or heavy duty radiator option--- On Mon 05/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:26:33 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud Just FYI, the 68 fan shroud is a year specific item. It has 3 bolt holes to hold it to the radiator top plate instead of 2 like the 69-72's. As long as you have the same top plate, get the shroud for the engine in the car, not what radiator is in it. Big blocks are 2 inches longer than a small block which brings the fan closer to the radiator. If you put a big block shroud on a small block car, the fan will not sit in the shroud where it needs to be making it ineffective.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud
I just looked in the OPG catalog and I see what you are talking about. I just measured mine and it measures the same 29x19. Maybe this is something new. They were not available when I was looking. I would call them and verify the application and ask about the return policy just in case. Good Luck, Scott--- On Wed 05/03, Kevin Riel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Riel [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Wed, 3 May 2006 16:33:16 -0700Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud I'm looking at the OPG catalogue and it lists both the small and big block shroud at 29" wide, which is the width of the core of my radiator. Are you sure about this? Kevin Riel - Original Message - From: Scott To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 8:09 AMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud The regular SBC shroud will not work. It is not wide enough (left to fight). The width is the same as a BBC but the BBC shroud is not deep enough (front to back). Scott--- On Wed 05/03, Kevin Riel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Riel [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Wed, 3 May 2006 05:00:05 -0700Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud Ok... all of this makes sense. Does anyone know what the difference is for the 68 w/AC and the heavy duty radiator? Do you think the regular 68 small block shroud would work? Thanks for the help so far!Kevin Riel - Original Message - From: Scott To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud FYI There is not a reproduction nor is it available from GM for 68 w/AC or heavy duty radiator option--- On Mon 05/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:26:33 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud Just FYI, the 68 fan shroud is a year specific item. It has 3 bolt holes to hold it to the radiator top plate instead of 2 like the 69-72's. As long as you have the same top plate, get the shroud for the engine in the car, not what radiator is in it. Big blocks are 2 inches longer than a small block which brings the fan closer to the radiator. If you put a big block shroud on a small block car, the fan will not sit in the shroud where it needs to be making it ineffective.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud
FYI There is not a reproduction nor is it available from GM for 68 w/AC or heavy duty radiator option--- On Mon 05/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Mon, 1 May 2006 22:26:33 EDTSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 68 fan shroud Just FYI, the 68 fan shroud is a year specific item. It has 3 bolt holes to hold it to the radiator top plate instead of 2 like the 69-72's. As long as you have the same top plate, get the shroud for the engine in the car, not what radiator is in it. Big blocks are 2 inches longer than a small block which brings the fan closer to the radiator. If you put a big block shroud on a small block car, the fan will not sit in the shroud where it needs to be making it ineffective. Tom
Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES members
Yes, #6390 see you at CB 06--- On Sat 04/29, John W. Lonadier, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John W. Lonadier, Jr. [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:07:53 -0500Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] ACES members I'm one as can be seen by my signature, #5597. John L. ACES #5597 70 LS5 TRIBUTE http://chevellfan.com/index89.html http://www.larueclassics.com/gallery/gallery%20pages/lodanier-chv70.html -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint HooperSent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 3:49 PMTo: The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: [Chevelle-list] ACES membersI know we have around 400 subscribers on this mailing list. Just curious but how many of you are current ACES members?Member #1650 here.Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino protourer2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger For Salehttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm"You may find me dead one day in a ditch. But by God,you'll find me in a pile of brass."
Re: [Chevelle-list] Electric choke for Q-Jet
I ordered mine from Carbs Unlimited. Here is a link right to the part. it is at the bottom of the page. Scotthttp://www.carburetion.com/quadrajet.asp--- On Fri 04/07, Bob n Cheri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:From: Bob n Cheri [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:15:55 -0600Subject: [Chevelle-list] Electric choke for Q-JetSpeaking of Q-Jets,Does anyone know the NAPA # for the electric choke conversion?I have a spread bore manifold with the crossover blocked off.Edelbrock Performer RPM, drilled for both squarebore and spread bore in case you are wondering.Currently running a 770 Avenger w/electric choke but want to put my Q-Jet back on and connect it to electric choke instead of divorced choke.I called NAPA, they said they needed carb # for the correct elec. choke.They dont carry them in stock but can order them.Thanks in advance,Bob Belz
Re: [Chevelle-list] Electric choke for Q-Jet
Glad to help Bob. Scott--- On Fri 04/07, Bob n Cheri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob n Cheri [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Fri, 7 Apr 2006 21:37:45 -0600Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Electric choke for Q-Jet Thanks Scott,I book marked that site, look like a very good source for Q-Jet parts. Looks like they have what I'm looking for.Bob Belz - Original Message - From: Scott To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 4:45 PMSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Electric choke for Q-Jet I ordered mine from Carbs Unlimited. Here is a link right to the part. it is at the bottom of the page. Scotthttp://www.carburetion.com/quadrajet.asp--- On Fri 04/07, Bob n Cheri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Bob n Cheri [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]]To: chevelle-list@chevelles.netDate: Fri, 07 Apr 2006 14:15:55 -0600Subject: [Chevelle-list] Electric choke for Q-JetSpeaking of Q-Jets,Does anyone know the NAPA # for the electric choke conversion?I have a spread bore manifold with the crossover blocked off.Edelbrock Performer RPM, drilled for both squarebore and spread bore in case you are wondering.Currently running a 770 Avenger w/electric choke but want to put my Q-Jet back on and connect it to electric choke instead of divorced choke.I called NAPA, they said they needed carb # for the correct elec. choke.They dont carry them in stock but can order them.Thanks in advance,Bob Belz
[Chevelle-list] 14X5 Steel Wheels
I am new to the list but am a TC(68L79ELCAMINO) and ACES member. I posted this on TC and had little luck. I have a 68 elcamino with factory disc brakes, the 4 piston caliper kind. I am looking for some original style steel wheels to fit my car. They are 14x5 with 3.5 inch back spacing. The tough part is they must have the groove in the wheel to clear the caliper. I don't care about codes or dates. If it helps, the code on my original spare is XD. This code shows up no where in any book that I have found. It may be a 68 only, wheel. If anyone has any wheels that fit this description let me know. I am starting to get desperate. Thanks Scott HillJoin Excite! - http://www.excite.comThe most personalized portal on the Web!
[Chevelle-list] Need a list address
Anybody know of a list list yhis except for T-buckets Thanks in advance Scott
RE: [Chevelle-list] Need a list address
I miss spell check - Anybody know of a list likethis except for T-buckets There Thanks again From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott SomersSent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 7:11 AMTo: 'The Chevelle Mailing List'Subject: [Chevelle-list] Need a list address Thanks in advance Scott
RE: [Chevelle-list] Bumpers
Yeah, but Show-n-go is pretty expensive so watch out Scott North Dallas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mike f Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 7:39 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Bumpers David, I have used Superior in Houston because they go to the Dallas area swap meets. I had the rear bumper done and they did a good job of fixing a couple if dings from the previous owner. In Garland around Forest and Jupiter is a Harley shop that does great chrome. Show-n-Go Chrome is a place I used before. Just some ideas. Mike F. --- The Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 66 is going to the paint shop this week, so I am getting everything ready to start putting it back together/ Does anyone have any information on rechroming bumpers and who is good? What are the repops like? I live just north of Dallas, thanks David David Hanks 1966 SS396 1974 Corvette ACES 6782 Team Chevelle 1940 Pilot Point, TX __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [Chevelle-list] 68-69 hood insulation falls out
I picked up some insulation at a Home Depot that was 3/4 thick, fairly rigid, and the good part- almost a chrome, reflective finish on one side. I cut it a little larger than the openings on the hood ( a 69 goodmark, good year, good heavens, whatever) high scoop on my 68) and pushed it in. It was stiff enough to stay in place without help. Now, I never drove the car more than 10 or 15 miles at a time so I don't know what heat would do over time. Cleaned up easy and was kinda car showey...if that's a word. If you need, I can shoot a picture to ya. Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Nasta Sent: Monday, August 01, 2005 4:05 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 68-69 hood insulation falls out I actually think it would be funny to have chicken wire. I should be able to get some somewhere around here. Thanks for the offer though. I actually have a second set now because one of the pieces from the first set got damaged. I'm wondering if there is any advantage to stacking them so that I can glue it all to the underside of the hood in the center. That would also solve everything. Right now it seems like there is too much space between the frame and the sheet metal to glue one layer of the insulation directly to the underside of the sheet metal. John Nasta -Original Message- John, you can only use chicken wire if it is held in place with baling wire. I have a few rolls if you need any. Brian
RE: [Chevelle-list] Bolt on overdrives.
My tranny guy told me that my 4L60 ( 700R4 ) would work OK on my 468 but at 600hp it would granade if I pushed it a few too many times at a stoplight. My tires weren't sticky so they took the strain off the tranny and just caught fire a lot.Had they grabbed, I might have been pulling tranny parts from my backside. Seems anything after 450 hp gets iffy on a stock or mildly beefed box. But with 4:10's I did like the lockup overdrive. Sounded strange but it felt and sounded like a 5 speed automatic. There are tranny guys likePhoenix or Bow Tiethat can build them to take 600+ for a few thou.or less - no E so no computer. Had I kept my '68, Santa would have delivered a new box this year ( trade in my 4L60 if it was still in one piece). But alas.. Scott From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jack ThorpeSent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 8:46 AMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: [Chevelle-list] Bolt on overdrives. Has anyone bolted on a overdrive unit to a T-400? They seem a little expensive. Would a 700R stand up to 400 HP+. Looking for mileage and less rpm's on the motor while cruising. Thanks Jack's 66
RE: [Chevelle-list] good news
Just got in to the office and fired up the boxfirst thing up on the mail screen was Brian's great news. Now THAT's the way to start a Monday. Thank you Scott Somers Dallas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 4:10 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] good news Glad to hear it,Brian. You just made my day better. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, all went well at the hospital today. I have a 40% blockage in 3 areas. The doc says with some drugs and a stricter diet I should not have any problems, at least for some time. Thank you all so much for keeping us in your thoughts and prayers. I was most worried because my son and first child will be 12 weeks old tomorrow, and I couldn't bear the thought of not seeing him grow up. I named him Joseph Louis and no one has caught on to the fact that one of my personal heroes is Louis Joseph Chevrolet! Thanks again for all of your support, Brian P.S. Took the Malibu for a short spin this afternoon!! Really gets the old ticker going :)
RE: [Chevelle-list] special request
Best of wishes and prayers for only good things to be Scott Recently ex-owner '68 468 Gen 6 - 600hp Currently between rides ( bored to tears ) - Original Message - From: Brian Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] special request Hi guys, over the last couple of years since I have been a part of this list, I have learned more from you than I can put into words. Every day it seems I learn something new or at least get to have a good laugh, especially from some of the ebay listings that are pointed out here. I consider you all family and really appreciate the advice and help I have recieved. Now for the request part. Tomorrow (Friday) I have to have a heart catheterization (angioplasty) done and my family and I would greatly appreciate it if any of you would remember us in your thoughts and prayers. Chevelle content: If anything were to go wrong, I would not be able to drive the Chevelle any more. Thanks to all of you, Brian _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[Chevelle-list] 1968 on EBAY
It ain't for show but the person that was interested in how I mounted the amp and EQT's in my '68, it's on ebaymotors at item number 4551565286 You might also be able to see the tweeter location for the fron Focals. No fancy mounting in this car but they throw a nice image and that's what it's about. The 6.5 Focals really need to be clipped at 80 or so with the under 80 going to subs ( go JL Audio unless ya wanna dump a ton on Focal subs). No rear fill speakers..just let volume set the rear fill effect - just like in a concert. Get power to go over the sound of the motor and pipes. Don't mess with center channels. They were a headache in the 90's and still would be. Get a lot of GOOD CLEAN power, aim the speakers for good stage, cut off with good sloping for your system and rock on. By the way, someone will get a great deal on the '68. I put 22K in it last year in about 5 months after I bought it for a lot last April. Still cheaper than my ex wife...and more fun as well. Scott Scott Somers
Re: [Chevelle-list] Power steering
Zoops has a lot of stuff but I ended up trashing a lot of money in the buildup of my Gen 6 468 with a long pump trying to stay with a fancy V belt rig and finally had to switch over to a serp. Because I wanted to send my kid to college, I was trying not to dump the rather serious bucks on the serp but go with v-belt. Wasn't gonna happen. Caved in to my engine builder who was getting major po'ed with the Zoop thing ( as well as a 750 Demon that shot gas straight in the air about half the time ) and went the zoop's serp route and things went better ( the old holley double cured the fountain effect - it was kinda pretty but not practical ). Guess college is out for the kid but I told him that there seems to be a future in pulley manufacturing. The correct align feature did save our butt. The car next to mine went with the other brand serp system from the get go and it was a walk in the park. He's was a drummer for a major rock band and said college was not a major issue with him - but he a nice pulley setup nonetheless that complimented orange spiked hair with a bald spot in the back. But hey, he is into hot rods so he's ok in my book. I'm still gonna stay with the Roy Orbison stuff. lol Scott - Original Message - From: Fred Dowaliby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 5:47 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Power steering Zoop's Correct-Align brackets allow for 1 adjustment front to back. On May 16, 2005, at 5:54 PM, Dan Mascheck wrote: Well...After getting the compressor aligned, and the alternator...we now find the alignment on the power steering is off by a hair. Can't have your cake and eat it to. We sent off for a shim for the bottom BDS pulley to allow the alt and comp. to mesh or align, but didn't think about the power steering. There has got to be some give and take in the alignment. As said earlier...someone has faced the problem with a 454 and a BDS 8-71 blower. Dan -Original Message- From: Dan Mascheck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 15, 2005 9:21 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Cc: 'Mascheck, Dan' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Power steering Thanks Fred, No problem with the conversion? Dan Mascheck -Original Message- From: Fred Dowaliby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 10:05 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Power steering Dan, Try Summit, pn SUM-340105. This is a GM Type 2 polished aluminum pump that uses a remote reservoir and hence takes very little room at the pump. I just installed one on my '68/454 and it works and looks great. I used a Zoops polished aluminum bracket and reservoir and the pump mounts low on the driver side. If you are running a stock pump this should work just fine. Fred Dowaliby On May 14, 2005, at 10:34 PM, Dan Mascheck wrote: I'm still trying to find someone or a company that sells an aluminum billet or chrome Saginaw power steering pump for my 1972 Chevelle. The car has a 454 engine with an 8-71 BDS Blower with a three groove pulley on the crank. I have the AC mounted passenger side low. The alternator passenger side above. The old Saginaw pump is still in it's stock driver side position. March has a nice billet pump, but said the mounting brackets would not work. Flaming River said they had nothing that would fit! Does anyone have any ideas! Is anyone running an 8-71 blower on a 454? Dan Mascheck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 1:00 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 22, Issue 38 Send Chevelle-list mailing list submissions to Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Chevelle-list digest...
Re: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray.
Thanks but no. Still got mine - somewhere - but I think my next " thing " might be a 32 Roadster. No modern nothing - just engine, body, frame, and wheels. Less to screw with. Maybe a T-bucket. One of my early ( late 50's early 60's or so ) was driving a bucket listening to the Walk Don't Run by the Ventures. Gotta do that someday. Scott - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray. SCOTT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR ANOTHER 68 CHEVELLE? I AM SELLING MIND DO TO HEALTH REASONS. NICK
Re: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray.
Glad to help. Holler if you need me. I really had fun in the car audio competition world in the 90's but like NHRA in the 60's vs now it is now longer do it yourself but how much money you want to spend. ( I read that Kenny Bernstein's - or was it John's Force's - crew chief's salary several years ago was $500,000 ) I quit competing in car audio when I saw a 17 year old kid and his parents who had just flown in from out of the state, came to a IASCA regional meet to take delivery of his all pro-built comp car with an unreal sound system in it, pull the car into the Novice line and blew everyone away. He had not done a thing on his own. 100% Check Car. Was time to find a new hobby. Still enjoy the super high end car audio but just to enjoy. Neon and motorized amp racks never really helped the sound anyway. But the best way to hear Hendrix over Flowmaster Super 40's is about 1,000+ legal clean watts, really good speakers in good enclosures and a nice stretch of road. Scott - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray. Great stuff Scott. I'll have to save your email for reference... Larry Shouse - Original Message - From: Scott Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray. Kick panels are the best without getting into radical floor panel modifications ( which are way cool ) because of equalization of the sound path - critical stuff . When speakers and the electronics are dialed in and you play a high quality recording and close your eyes ( obviously while not driving ) it is just plain spooky. You can see the placement of all the members of the band. Same thing with higher end home audio. The location of the speakers disappear. I played with waveguides ( horns ) in the mid 90's but they are wierd and very tricky. Stay with kicks if possible and use good speakers from good companies like Focal ( about $400 per pair, Quart, and others. It sound funny but there is what we called an east coast sound - crisp and detailed ( Quart ) and a west coast sound - warmer ( Focal) . Just go with what sounds good to you BUT don't push too much bass through smaller speakers and get the best amp you can reasonably afford. ( Tube and hybrid tube amps were fun too but harmonics were a bear..not sure that you can still even get hem ) Too little power is not good for speakers. Crappy amp will trash good speakers. I was really onto Hendrix but distortion is distortion ( you may quote me on that ) If you have good kick panel systems made and can seal and use the chamber behind them you got a good start to some nice midbass. Mine were actually built into the area behine the kickpanels and teh panels acted like speaker covers. Aim the tweeter and if possible the mid range at the dome light. If ya got the desire a coaxial, a 5 1/4 ( which is more musical than a 6 1/2 but won't carry the midbass as well - size matters) coaxial (tilted) as close to the junction of the kickpanel and the floor and a 6 1/2 or 7 in the door as far forward as possible can easily get you down to 65hz and then let the subs take over. The human ear cannot tell the direction of true low bass because the wave length is so long but it can find direction of the higher frequency rattle that bad mounting of a speaker or panel flop can produce. On my Chevelle, I was taking a lot simplier for now and change it later approach - no comp audio show point stuff this time - car audio is way over the top now, check out anything by the Fishman. I'll find a picture. But, like the engine, the best stuff can't be seen. I mounted the amp, crossovers ( passive on this car) and EQT's on a panel on the back wall. Not high end at all but I just wanted some sounds and was going to maybe wierd it out later this year. No purple neon inside the amp racks this time. Oh, well, them was the 90's. Did I mention Dynamat. If you can't get to an area to mat it, pink panther stuff shoved in will deaden it pretty good too. My comp car sounded like a tomb. At one point the front windows would not roll down because of the insulation but I changed my mind, pulled the panther stuff and did a couple more layers of Dynamat ( I was getting a discount by then ) I beefed up the package tray with MDF and more dynamat. Thing did NOT rattle. Actually, that car did not rattle. Have a ball - it can be a cool side hobby. Scott - Original Message - From: Matthew Post [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net; The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups
Re: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray.
Hey Aaron, If you want to email me off list I'll send a couple of pictures on what I was doing on my 68 when I decided to sell it. In the 90's I competed a car in IASCA and USAC car audio competition - and even won - a trunk full of electronics but it was fun. In my 55 Chevy and now the '68 Chevelle, I used a upper end Alpine head, Audio Control EQT ( 2) comp equalizers, modified, a J.L.Audio amp and Focal component speakers with Focal comp crossovers. Little trick - Canare pro audio ( recording studio ) interconnects and speaker cable - killer stuff and cheap to boot. And lotsa Dynamat ( 3 pipes and Flowmaster Super 40's on a 468 ain't the best for car audio but ya work with what ya got). I was then gonna have a J.L 12 in each side of the trunk aimed sligtly back but decided to sell the car instead. I was and am a soundstage and image freak, as opposed to a thumper and I was gonna pull the new 6x9 Focals back out in favor of subs only in the rear. Never went to a concert where speakers were in the back anyway. If you gotta run rear speakers look at having them clipped at 200-300 hz or less. Better yet run real good stuff in the front - kickpanels is the best for imaging - at least put the tweeter there - aimed at the dome light. 6 1/2 stuff is minimal for decent midbase. I ran 8 DynaAudio mid bass in the doors of my 90's comp car with Quart comp 5 1/4 and tweeter (seperates) where the floor and the kickpanel met and 2 12 subs in the facing forward.. Each speaker (8 total) had it's own dedicated or 1/2 amp with Rane pro audio crossovers and eq's splitting the signal. What an image and soundstage. Kinda over the top but talk radio was never better. Fried a couple of alternators as well. Some one, I think Mickey Thompson, said speed cost money, how fast do you want to go. same thing applied to audio - how good do you want it to sound. DYNAMAT and deaden the car or it will bass rattle and that is an enemy of accurate bass reproduction and imaging. Scott - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 11:54 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Speaker setups and package tray. Hey guys, Does anyone have any pictures of custom speaker boxes for the 6x9's in the back of a 1970 chevelle? Also any pictures of a full system setup with where they mounted an AMP and or subs in the trunk? Another question i have is what have you guys done for the back package tray of the 1970 chevelle? do you just up and buy the one out of the catalogs or does anyone know of some custom ones that are a little better than the standard cardboard ones? Thanx, Aaron Houston, TX 1970 chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,,
I'm in Scott - Original Message - From: mike f [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:41 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,, Scott, clint. There was a bunch of us at Pate (speedway). We neeed to schedule a meet and greet sometime. mike f --- Scott Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it was at Pate and was your right foot, could it be a function of the weight of the cash needed to be carried at that event and then quickly disappearing from your wallet resulting in a fast changing of weight distribution characteristics. Kinda like a hitchup in your gettalong. Must be a Texas thangI broke my right foot stepping off a curb a couple of years ago right after spending too much for a dinner. Weight transfer got all screwed up. Throttle related is also a possibility...Hydraulic or air valve throttle linkage can also help you get down on the fun pedal a lot faster with less body energy. 1/2 pedal travel range from idle to Oh My is kinda spooky but also efficient. Obviously hope your recovery is very quick. Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,, Belive it or not,I'm beginning to think I might have initially hurt it walking the Pate Swap at Texas Motor Speedway,last Friday. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dave Studly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broken bone? Right foot? Just how hard have you been mashing the loud pedal?? Sorry to hear of your bad luck. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:50 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,, I wouldn't have any luck,at all. Walking across the room last night,I felt something pop in my right foot. Pain was instantaneous and my first thought was I had snapped an Achilles tendon. Off to the ER and after x-rays,it looks like the main load-bearing bone just broke. Waiting to see an orthopedic specialist today. I'm facing possible surgery and even if I dodge that bullet,will be looking at least 6-8 weeks off work. Being a shift-worker,the cut in pay is bad enough but there is a good chance I might have to stay home miss Chevellabration next month. Now,I'm really concerned. Have never broken any bones in my life until now and to do it while simply walking is a tough pill to swallow. Sorry for the venting but this really pisses me off. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html
Re: [Chevelle-list] tuning
I got excited about gas cost until I did some math. If gas went from 1.80 to 2.20 per gallon and I got only, for easy math, 10mpg, that's only $.04 increase per mile. On a 5,000 mile trip, which is some serious saddle time for a 10mpg rig, that's an extra $200. Money's money but only an extra $200 on a run like that would not make me panic too bad. Lot of ways to make that up..don't feed the spouse or kids at a few stops. Not talking about maintaining a happy home life, just saving money. Or only take roads that go downhill. Don't forget drafting ( aka tailgating if done under 100 or so mph ) - Original Message - From: mike f [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] tuning I have heard the Vortec V-6 will fit. Or perhaps take out a second mortgage. I couldn't help it. lol mike --- Dennis Kiernan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there such a thing as tuning a car for maximum mpg by maybe sacrificing elsewhere such as power or acceleration? My gas-eater will be going on a 5000 mile journey this summer and I'm trying to do what I can to avoid seriously depleting the world's oil supplies (not to mention my wallet).. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,,
If it was at Pate and was your right foot, could it be a function of the weight of the cash needed to be carried at that event and then quickly disappearing from your wallet resulting in a fast changing of weight distribution characteristics. Kinda like a hitchup in your gettalong. Must be a Texas thangI broke my right foot stepping off a curb a couple of years ago right after spending too much for a dinner. Weight transfer got all screwed up. Throttle related is also a possibility...Hydraulic or air valve throttle linkage can also help you get down on the fun pedal a lot faster with less body energy. 1/2 pedal travel range from idle to Oh My is kinda spooky but also efficient. Obviously hope your recovery is very quick. Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,, Belive it or not,I'm beginning to think I might have initially hurt it walking the Pate Swap at Texas Motor Speedway,last Friday. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dave Studly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Broken bone? Right foot? Just how hard have you been mashing the loud pedal?? Sorry to hear of your bad luck. -Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Clint Hooper Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2005 11:50 AM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] If it wasn't for bad luck,,, I wouldn't have any luck,at all. Walking across the room last night,I felt something pop in my right foot. Pain was instantaneous and my first thought was I had snapped an Achilles tendon. Off to the ER and after x-rays,it looks like the main load-bearing bone just broke. Waiting to see an orthopedic specialist today. I'm facing possible surgery and even if I dodge that bullet,will be looking at least 6-8 weeks off work. Being a shift-worker,the cut in pay is bad enough but there is a good chance I might have to stay home miss Chevellabration next month. Now,I'm really concerned. Have never broken any bones in my life until now and to do it while simply walking is a tough pill to swallow. Sorry for the venting but this really pisses me off. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] Age of the Chevelle owners
With regard to the 68 being a red headed step child, it's kinda like the thru cars in the Tri Five group . Everybody refers to them as the 55 thru 57 Chevy which makes the 56 the thru car. Never talked about but definately there. Red headed step child. But seen some of them grow up into good looking red heads - so never underestimate the potential or the unusual. Scott in Dallas Another 68 owner but still missing a good thru car as an alternative - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Age of the Chevelle owners Kinda surprised to see so many 68 owners on the List. For too many years,that year has kinda been looked down upon as the redheaded stepchild. I think it's safe to say that train of thought is no longer as prevalent as it once was. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions
hey, Clint Don't forget the inside of the door skins and panels as well. Enough layers will greatly reduce road noise from the doors and when you shut the door it will close like a Bentley - that nice dull thump - without a rattle. I put at least 2 layers on anything metal I could find. Dow Jones value of Dynamat stock went up right after I did my sound comp cars, then my '55 and then the Chevelle. Hell, I started to put some on my dog just to shut him up. No wife jokes here, but I thought about it once. Divorced her insteadit was actually cheaper than Dynamat in that instance. By the way, you going to the Pate swap meet at the Ft Worth Roundy Round track this weekend?...I think's it's this weekend. Scott - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions My car is going in the upholstery shop next week for a leather interior and we are going to use Dynamat on the floors and roof. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out this stuff.it works great http://www.dynamat.com/ Pat 68 Convt.
Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions
Also in this month's issue of Custom Rodder or Rod Custom is a story about some spray on stuff called Lizard Skin and a heavy duty version of it Scott - Original Message - From: Bill Lessenberry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions I used the Tru-Max insulator mat. I got it from Summit PN TRU-BLIP11406. It's not as heavy or as expensive as the Dynamat, but it made a very noticeable difference in the amount of heat noise coming into the car. I used 1 sheet (4 x 6 ft) under the carpet from the firewall to under the front seat. It's a cheaper and lighter alternative. BL
[Chevelle-list] OOPs pate is next week
Sorry Clint...the Pate is next week. Guess I'd have a real good parking spot if Iwent this weekend. Scott, the early bird
Re: SV: [Chevelle-list] 1967 12 bolt for sale
It seems that I have a 12 bolt posi with 4:10 for sale. Kinda expensive at $25,000.. but you get a free '68 468 gen 6 Chevelle that's attached to it at no extra charge.
Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions
Sounds like the start of a party - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Friday, April 22, 2005 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions Yeah,I plan on making it down either Friday or Saturday. Maybe a few of us can get together. I know Rick Schaefer is going. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Scott Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] hey, Clint Don't forget the inside of the door skins and panels as well. Enough layers will greatly reduce road noise from the doors and when you shut the door it will close like a Bentley - that nice dull thump - without a rattle. I put at least 2 layers on anything metal I could find. Dow Jones value of Dynamat stock went up right after I did my sound comp cars, then my '55 and then the Chevelle. Hell, I started to put some on my dog just to shut him up. No wife jokes here, but I thought about it once. Divorced her insteadit was actually cheaper than Dynamat in that instance. By the way, you going to the Pate swap meet at the Ft Worth Roundy Round track this weekend?...I think's it's this weekend. Scott - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions My car is going in the upholstery shop next week for a leather interior and we are going to use Dynamat on the floors and roof. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out this stuff.it works great http://www.dynamat.com/ Pat 68 Convt.
Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions
Definately dynamat. I used several, several hundred dollars of it a few years ago in a comp audio car that I built when I was playing with that hobby. Use enough on the floor, ceiling, doors, rear deck, truck, over wheel wells, anywhere and the car will be a tomb with minimal rattles. I used it 3 and 4 layers thick in some high resonance areas. But it do get expensive. I also put house insulation ( the pink stuff ) in areas that I could not get to any other way but shoving in a hole. Under the rear seat was one spot - Original Message - From: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] interior questions Check out this stuff.it works great http://www.dynamat.com/ Pat 68 Convt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EXT-Jasper, Garry W Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:29 AM To: Chevelle Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: [Chevelle-list] interior questions All I have the interior of my 71 gutted including dash removal, time to start putting it back together. Looking for info on what I can use to replace the original soundproofing (tar paper and padding) saw some nice shiny (aluminum) backed stuff being used on one of the Car shows the other night. Looking to limit that road noise sound. Does any one have a recommendation or should I just go with the new stuff listed in many of the after market catalogues. I have some stiff poly foam (packing type material) that I was planning on using under the dash, got some 3m Glue the other day any word on that idea good or bad. It looks like it would be better then the stuff that was crumbling apart when I removed the dash that looked like some kind of fiber board gone bad. Garry
Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions
BAD mistake. It can expand when and where you don't want it to and in some cases distort panels. It's also wet and that ain't cool. My car audio freak buddies ALL stay far away from that stuff. Talk to a HIGH END car audio store that builds systems for the IASCA circuit competition. When it comes to road noise ( bad for sound quality competition ) of panel vibration ( bad for everything) they will know what to do. Don't cut corners, it'll haunt ya Scott - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 2:29 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] interior questions What about using some of the injection foam they have in pressurized cansWill it work?? Or is it a mistake!! -Original Message- From: Scott Somers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] interior questions Definately dynamat. I used several, several hundred dollars of it a few years ago in a comp audio car that I built when I was playing with that hobby. Use enough on the floor, ceiling, doors, rear deck, truck, over wheel wells, anywhere and the car will be a tomb with minimal rattles. I used it 3 and 4 layers thick in some high resonance areas. But it do get expensive. I also put house insulation ( the pink stuff ) in areas that I could not get to any other way but shoving in a hole. Under the rear seat was one spot - Original Message - From: Pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 10:37 AM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] interior questions Check out this stuff.it works great http://www.dynamat.com/ Pat 68 Convt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of EXT-Jasper, Garry W Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 11:29 AM To: Chevelle Mailing List (E-mail) Subject: [Chevelle-list] interior questions All I have the interior of my 71 gutted including dash removal, time to start putting it back together. Looking for info on what I can use to replace the original soundproofing (tar paper and padding) saw some nice shiny (aluminum) backed stuff being used on one of the Car shows the other night. Looking to limit that road noise sound. Does any one have a recommendation or should I just go with the new stuff listed in many of the after market catalogues. I have some stiff poly foam (packing type material) that I was planning on using under the dash, got some 3m Glue the other day any word on that idea good or bad. It looks like it would be better then the stuff that was crumbling apart when I removed the dash that looked like some kind of fiber board gone bad. Garry
[Chevelle-list] If you're looking for a 68
Time to move on to another toy. If someone is looking for a good one, my '68 with a new 468 genVI is listed for sale by a local ( Dallas) shop that sells the older cars.Go to www.fast440.com and look for the blue Chevelle. Price is good since I put close to 40 in it between April whenIgot it andOctober. Needs A/C hoses to the new compressor. It was just easier to tell the engine builder to just get a new one of whatever it needed. Don't it figure...get it in April - start of the season - give it to my wrench for a new motor and suspension and brakes upgrades, get it back in October when the season id pretty much done, put it up and sell it inApril. I don't think I really want to know what those easy, around my part of town, 300 miles or so are going to cost me net. What a hobby! Best regards to you all. I'm gonna stay on the list in the background. Always interesting things. Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] For a living...
President of a Flagpole manufacturer - the large outdoor ones - 20'-150' Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW.
Pronto Muffler number is ( Plano )
972-423-7705. Asfar as SS, check with Sachse Rod Shop ( in Sachse
Texas ( consider it in dallas ) They do very high end hot rods and
havementioned a "high tech" custom muffler shop in Garland( still
Dallas )
Scott
- Original Message -
From:
Clint Hooper
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:24
PM
Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Need good
muffler tailpipe shop in DFW.
Can they build stainless exhaust systems? I've
done some business with Texas Quality Exhausts in Houston but am trying to
find something a little closer to me. TQE does high-end exhaust work in
Corvettes,streetrods,musclecars,custom trucks,and other showcars. They build
their own mufflers and tips,too. Anyone like that in the D/FW metro
area?
Clint HooperHH Custom,owner1969 El Camino ProTourer2001
H-D FLHR custom baggerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm
- Original Message -
From:
Scott
Somers
Pronto Muffler on 75 just north of 544 on the
east side service road. Did real good work on my 68 a couple of months
ago - new super 40's and 3" piping. Reasonable prices and good clean
work. They like hot rods. A couple others were also there that
day.
Scott
Dallas
- Original Message -
From:
Dave
Corgill
To: The Chevelle Mailing List
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:24
PM
Subject: [Chevelle-list] Need good
muffler tailpipe shop in DFW.
Got a flowmaster 40 series muffler that has
started a rattlein the muffler. On my 66 elky it needs replaced
the other onealso. So who do you recommend ? In the Dallas TX area?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Paint Metal Flake
The better ones had up to 20 coats of clear and therein is the problem. Back then clear and sunlight did not like each other. Talk about cracking. Looked like a 100 year old's face. On a bad day. Bet they have the problem fixed by now. - Original Message - From: Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Rick Schaefer' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 1:12 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Paint Metal Flake When I was a kid, they had a 3 window coop come through town, it was painted metal flake Green...Damndest color I have ever seen in the sun!! I keep thinking about painting my car in metal flake, but I remember in the old days they had 5 or 6 hand rubbed coats of lacquer. I never heard about upkeep!? Dan Mascheck -Original Message- From: Rick Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:08 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Paint Metal Flake Dare to be different. Check with a paint supplier on care upkeep. I wonder if the modern day paint compounds can't carry the metalflake??? A good metalflake paint job sure looked good. On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 22:06:19 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see metal flake on old carsthey are referred to as lowriders -Original Message- From: Dan Mascheck [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Tue, 29 Mar 2005 21:00:11 -0600 Subject: [Chevelle-list] Paint Metal Flake When I was a kid, Metal Flake paint was the rage for hot rods...What ever happened to it? I still see bass boats metal flake, but no cars. I see all the new pearlescent and other unique paints, but no metal flake! What kind of problems do you have with maintenance? Cost? Application? I want to repaint my Chevelle and was thinking about the old metal Flake as an option! I'm also wondering if anyone knows a good paint shop in Houston, TX surrounding or the area! Dan Mascheck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 6:19 PM To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Chevelle-list Digest, Vol 20, Issue 69 Send Chevelle-list mailing list submissions to Chevelle-list@chevelles.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Chevelle-list digest... -- Rick Schaefer 72 TPI El Camino
Re: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW.
I think the 40's were around $250 installedon the existing tubingon the 396 and then later ( 100 miles) after the 468 was put inthey repiped it all the way backwith 3" tube from the new headers, replumbed up the electric cut-outs portion, reused the still new 40's andtook it back to therear bumper ( over the rear end with 3" is a hoot)...seems that tab was in the $250 to $300 range.The 468 sure liked the 3"better than the 2 1/4" straws. They even opened up the 40's inlet and outlet to flow the 3". Some might not do that as it took an extra 2 minutes. They did a good job.Whatever my next hot rod is they will surely do the intestional work on it as well. Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Larry Shouse To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW. Scott, What did you have to pay them? Thanks, Larry - Original Message ----- From: Scott Somers To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW. Pronto Muffler on 75 just north of 544 on the east side service road. Did real good work on my 68 a couple of months ago - new super 40's and 3" piping. Reasonable prices and good clean work. They like hot rods. A couple others were also there that day. Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW. Got a flowmaster 40 series muffler that has started a rattlein the muffler. On my 66 elky it needs replaced the other onealso. So who do you recommend ? In the Dallas TX area?
Re: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW.
Pronto Muffler on 75 just north of 544 on the east side service road. Did real good work on my 68 a couple of months ago - new super 40's and 3" piping. Reasonable prices and good clean work. They like hot rods. A couple others were also there that day. Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Dave Corgill To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Monday, March 28, 2005 1:24 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Need good muffler tailpipe shop in DFW. Got a flowmaster 40 series muffler that has started a rattlein the muffler. On my 66 elky it needs replaced the other onealso. So who do you recommend ? In the Dallas TX area?
Re: [Chevelle-list] hey Clint - Pro Touring .com
Thanks for the feedback. Kinda hate to see it go. The vette dealer asked how I liked the 300 horses in the vette. He looked surprised when I told him it was a letdown after 600 in the Chevelle. Had only put about 300 easy miles on the Gen6 and it wanted to be turned loose. Guess I should have. I'm kinda at the point where it's not what ya do but how ya look while you're doing it so I will probably mild 350 crate the next ride and just profile. Love Mercs with mail box slot windows. Actually as long as its old and I could have not bought one new at the time ( I'm 58 so I could have bought a Chevelle new.) then I'm into it. Might just get another Chevelle. There is one around the corner that is very very slick - 66 with custom frame LS1, really pro touring and expensive. Very sweet with the right look but 50 large generates a large sucking sound in my accounts. But I think the 50 is fishing. They are into high buck cars and looking for a whale. Scott - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 4:36 PM Subject: Fw: [Chevelle-list] hey Clint - Pro Touring .com Hate to hear you're selling the Chevelle,Scott. I've had more Tri-5's that I can count,over thirty Corvettes,a few streetrods,and a half dozen El Caminos. An El Camino has been part of my life in some shape or fashion for over forty years. We owned our 68 for thirty two years and selling it in May 2000 was really hard. Heck,I think I'll just keep my 69 till the day they put me in the ground. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner 1969 El Camino ProTourer 2001 H-D FLHR custom bagger http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Scott Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clint My 68 is in the process of being sold by a place here in Dallas ( fast440.com) ( the new misses wanted a vette and the Chevelle's wrench that built the Gen 6 moved away anyhow ) but something else is bound to show up in my garage soon. Another Chevelle, another tri-5 or maybe earlier iron like a chopped Merc. Kinda open. Still gotta get a T bucket before I die. Always wanted to drive down the road in a T listening to the Ventures play walk don't run. Early childhood fantasy. Thanks Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay
I know this ain't Chevelle related, but this money could buy a very cool Chevelle ( nice tie back, huh) This is really off the charts.It would make an interesting reality show. All on a word of a construction site supervisor. The current winning bidder has spent aTOTAL of $78.46for the last 6 purchases including $24 for tupperware. And he's sitting on $360k. Guess you can really savemoney buying tupperware on line.I sure as hell hope he wants to buy a Chevelle. For $360K, I'll even wash and deliver it. With a tank og gas. And sincemy company sells U.S. flags, I'll throw in a few. There has got to be atwist to thisor I am really missing something. And according to that other web site, if this is from a chrime scene, why hasn't the FBI, CIA, DEA, FTC, CBS, UPS, CNN, FOB, CODor any other group with cool initials swooped in on this yet. - Original Message - From: Dale To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:21 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay Unbelievable the past 12 hours! As Scott noted, look at all the bidders and some of the things theyve bought/sold. Everything from A/C adapters for $0.04 (yep, 4 cents) to 15 year old T-shirts worn once. These bidders have over $300,000 at their disposal? Simply UNBELIEVABLE! Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Facts CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:43 PMTo: Chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay I see the bidding is up to $313,862. Guess they can affort is. Here is another link. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=3962513751fromMakeTrack=true Kelly 64 El Camino In a message dated 3/10/2005 2:13:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This listing (396251375 1) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available. Please make sure that you've entered the item number correctly. If the item was removed by eBay, please consider this transaction canceled. If anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by eBay purchase protection programs. On 3/10/2005 3:31:42 PM, chevelle-list@chevelles.net wrote: Are you sure? I show it still going#8230;$54k. Couldn#8217;t be cached data as I used another browser. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Facts CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
Re: [Chevelle-list] mice
Since I live in the city, I just put a small sign up near the bottom of my garage door saying " No Mice Allowed" and have never had a problem with them. Must have worked. - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] mice bob howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harlan: we live on a farm in Okla. ,and always have mice,we have found that moth cakes or a sack of moth balls under the hood will keep the mice out.just a pain to have to take them out everytime you want to drive the car.IT WILL work for sure. bob ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 03/09/05 08:51:35 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] mice hi, does anyone have a good system to keep the mice out of the cars??thanksHarlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay
Dale, I am the president of one of the major flagpole manufacturers in the US and just stepped down after a 5 year run as the Treasurer for NIFDA ( National Independent Flag Dealer Association). All the flag manufacturers are members of NIFDA and I have forwarded your email to NIFDA'sPresident to distribute to the general membership. We might get some interestingfeedback on this. Thanks for passing it on Scott Concord Industries, Inc Dallas - Original Message - From: Dale To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 10:04 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay Anybody seen this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=39646item=3962513751rd=1 Dont get me wrong, I have sympathy for the sellers bout with cancer, but there seems to be questions about (1) The authenticity of the flag itself. The seller refused to return the letter of authenticity to the writer who was rebuked by the construction company for writing it on a company letterhead. (2) The legality of selling debris from a crime scene. This flag was flying atop a civilian contractors construction crane, not the Pentagon, so it may be considered private property of the construction company, but even so it was removed from a crime scene. Since he's turned down offers of $100,000 it'll be interesting to see if/when the auction goes through and doesn't reach that price if it'll be pulled. Interesting article at http://www.voicesofsept11.org/news/030605.htm Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Facts CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92
Re: [Chevelle-list] mice
Bigger sign and careful selection of calibers. There is another sign in my garage that says" if you can read this, you're in range". I like signs - Original Message - From: James Colgan To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] mice in the city you have to worry about the "RATS"? the two legged kind!! .they can be a bigger problem. - Original Message ----- From: Scott Somers To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] mice Since I live in the city, I just put a small sign up near the bottom of my garage door saying " No Mice Allowed" and have never had a problem with them. Must have worked. - Original Message - From: Bill Bradley To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] mice bob howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harlan: we live on a farm in Okla. ,and always have mice,we have found that moth cakes or a sack of moth balls under the hood will keep the mice out.just a pain to have to take them out everytime you want to drive the car.IT WILL work for sure. bob ---Original Message--- From: The Chevelle Mailing List Date: 03/09/05 08:51:35 To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: [Chevelle-list] mice hi, does anyone have a good system to keep the mice out of the cars??thanksHarlan
Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay
Interestin thing is to look at the history of the bidders. The top ones with bids of $50,000 plus have a history of buying stuff for under $100. This is rather serious cash outflow. Looks kinda weird. Hope they got the 50 large when the time comes. Better yet,I think I will send them emails to see if they want a Chevelle for $280,000 instead. - Original Message - From: Dale To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 2:31 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay Are you sure? I show it still going $54k. Couldnt be cached data as I used another browser. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Facts CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard M. PruettSent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:22 PMTo: chevelle-list@chevelles.netSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay Something's rotten; just tried to have a look see and E-bay has pulled the item! Rich On 3/10/2005 11:04:29 AM, chevelle-list@chevelles.net wrote: Anybody seen this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI. dll?ViewItemcategory=39646item=396251375 1rd=1 category=39646item=3962513751rd=1 Don't get me wrong, I have sympathy for the seller's bout with cancer, but there seems to be questions about (1) The 'authenticity' of the flag itself. The seller refused to return the 'letter of authenticity' to the writer who was rebuked by the construction company for writing it on a company letterhead. (2) The legality of selling debris from a crime scene.
Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay
That's the number i use...the space between the last 2 numbers might be messin ya up. - Original Message - From: Richard M. Pruett To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 4:10 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay Do I have the wrong listing? Invalid ItemThis listing (396251375 1) has been removed by eBay or is no longer available. Please make sure that you've entered the item number correctly. If the item was removed by eBay, please consider this transaction canceled. If anybody contacts you to complete the sale, please ignore the request. Completing the sale outside of eBay may be unsafe and will not be covered by eBay purchase protection programs.On 3/10/2005 3:31:42 PM, chevelle-list@chevelles.net wrote: Are you sure? I show it still going#8230;$54k. Couldn#8217;t be cached data as I used another browser. Dale McIntosh 67 El Camino 1967 Chevelle Facts CD in progress ACES #1709/TC Gold #92 - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Chevelle-list- [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Richard M. Pruett Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:22 PM To: chevelle-list@chevelles.net Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] 911 flag on eBay Something's rotten; just tried to have a look see and E-bay has pulled the item!Rich On 3/10/2005 11:04:29 AM, chevelle-list@chevelles.net wrote: Anybody seen this? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI [link: cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI]. dll?ViewItemcategory=39646item=396251375 1rd=1 category=39646item=3962513751rd=1 Don't get me wrong, I have sympathy for the seller's bout with cancer, but there seems to be questions about (1) The 'authenticity' of the flag itself. The seller refused to return the 'letter
[Chevelle-list] '68 for sale
Anybody is the Dallas area interested in a very good deal on a 68 fully cloned up to SS with a very flashy, pro-built and very streetable 468 Gen 6 Bowtie ( about 200 miles on it since built late last year ) , beefed 4L60 and all the trimmings.Very solid, cool and a bunch of new stuff on it, in it and under it. Holler offgroup to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for pictures and details. Got a new wife and change of plans. Make someone a very sweet deal ( but not a firesale steal. Ain't a money thing just different direction.) Scott 972-380-8186 214-534-1048 ( mobile )
Re: [Chevelle-list] Need new Carb
We just dropped a 468 Gen 6 in my '68 to replace the 396 that was tired. I had picked up the '68 in April, kinda on a whim. I am getting thank you notes from American Express as a result of the work that has been done on it since then. The 468 has KB pistons of Carrillo (sp) rods, a Comp roller cam/rocker set up, very reworked heads and an AirGap. Followed the lead and put a 850 Demon on it with an electric fuel pump ( Gen6's don't have provisions for a fuel pump ) and during half the time of set up and testing the engine, the Demon shot gas straight up into the air. Kinda pretty but probably not real cool. Kinda reminded me of Belligio ( sp again ) in Vegas cept it did not go with the music. Now, I hear Demons are very good but somehow I did not trust it after that. We pulled the relatively new but not as pretty Holley 750 double off the 396, put it on the 468 and the fountain action stopped. Works great. For my driving the 750 is just fine. Although the engine is very strong, and it's a 4:10 the 4L60 will have its limitations on acceptable street work. Plus Dallas police are kinda unforgiving on stoplight burnouts and I don't have stickies anyway. The over carb thing happened on my '55 Chevy. Mild cammed 350 4 speed with a Edlebrock 750 and it bogged at every shift. Dropped to a 650 Edlebrock and it ran a LOT better. My kid even commented that it seemed that i learned to drive the 4 speed smoothly without the lunges as a result of power shifting to avoid the boggs. The out of the box 650 Edlebrock performed just fine. Sure wanted to go with the Demon on the Chevelle but keeping gas in the engine rather than on the engine seemed like a better option. I'm sure that we could have gotten the floats to work right ( we tried several times ) but the trust was gone.A 73 vette with a pretty hot 383 was also being played with in the next bay and when another new Demon ( 750) was put on it, it fountained a couple of times and then settled down. Just some thoughts. Unless I go with Street Performance injection, I'll stick with the Holley. My tax accountant tells me that my Uncle in Washington wants for money so for now I'll stick with the carb route but injection is screaming at me. Almost traded the Chevelle for a chopped 51 merc sled last week but think I'll wait for another TRI-5. Lost the 55 in a divorce this year. Scott - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Chevelle-list@chevelles.net Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 8:35 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Need new Carb Hi guys: I currently have a Holley 650 DP which is probably almost as old as my 65. Lotsa problems, won't adjust, etc. Engine is a .40 over 327, alum heads, headers, Comp Cams 272 Xtreme, 10.3 compression, M-20 4 speed and a 3.73 12 bolt posi. A fair estimate is about 400HP at the flywheel. The car is mostly show and alway street driven during the season May to November. I do like to take it to the dragstrip a few times or more each summer. What Carb to buy? A new Holley, a Demon, Holley Avenger? The BG people say go with a Mighty Demon 650. I was thinking a 750. The old Holley 650 is chugging like its starving for more gas at higher rpm's. Anyone have experiences pro or con they'd like to share. Any all info advice will be greatly appreciated. This is how I learn stuff. There's so much knowledge on this list. I just like to tap into it once in a while. Always saves alot of time $$ down the road. Thanks Everyone. -- Phil G. 65 SS MCC ACES VCCA LGC AMCA
Re: [Chevelle-list] vented fuel cap
I kinda lay in the weeds and read the goodies but I guess I need to ask as well about the vented cap deal but on a 68 Chevelle. If it matters there is an electric fuel pump for the Holley carbed 468 Gen VI Bowtie. Not having problems with it - except gas goes through it like flushing a toilet - but I might as well have the right one when it comes to function not historical correctness. Happy new year to all from those of us in the weeds Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] vented fuel cap
Thanks Bill, that would definitely be a cool thing to know. I will certainly follow you with the fix. Right now I tend to spend more time stomping on the gas rather than the brakes but I'm sure that the laws of averages ( and probability) might address that ratio some day. Just had new 3 pipes and flowmasters behind hookers put in. Now the functionality of the stuff in and stuff out relationship seems a little more complete but shore is louder. Gotta retune the Holley ( miss the Demon but we could not keep it from doing a geyser when it felt like it so we sent it back. ) For my driving ( it's sometimes not what ya do, it's how ya look while you're doing it) the 750 is ok for now. I find that I get to the speed limit quite nicelyand then go some more. Thanks in advance for the help and the info. Scott Hope you don't itch too much from those weeds. :-)) The 68 cars have a fuel tank vent in the top front of the tank, so the gas cap doesn't need to be vented. Something that you may have noticed is that when your car is full of gas you get on the brakes hard, gas flows out of the vent hoses and can drip on the right exhaust pipe. I'm going to try to figure out a way to prevent this, when I do, ya'll will be the second to know. BL
Re: [Chevelle-list]396 engine
Yea, I just swapped mine out for a very cool, close-to-600 horse Gen VI 468 was-gonna-go-in-a-drag- boat-but-never-made-it engine ( we optedto pullthe blower and had the heads angle milled ). Part of the deal was theengine builder got to keep the 396. Call him and see -we are in Dallas. He worked wonders on my 55 chevy and my 68chevelle. Engine, tranny, electrical, suspension, whatever.Name is Keith Stuckey at 972-931-5184.Loves the classics. Lot of them go through his place for tuneups. Plus he has tons of parts that I pulled off my '68 as he redid the engine and bay area. Definitely recommend him. Best of luck Scott Somers Dallas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list]396 engine ANYONE ON THE LIST KNOW WHERE I CAN FIND A 69 / 396 BLOCK TO PUT IN MY 69 CHEVELLE THANKS JOE
Re: [Chevelle-list] Garage heater
no,used only one. - Original Message - From: Crazy Rusty To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:31 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Garage heater Maybe you were subscribed with two e-mail addresses? I know I am subscribed with two so that I can send e-mail from my client or from my webpage. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rhonda ScottSent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 6:18 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; The Chevelle Mailing ListSubject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Garage heater Hi! I was subscribed to the mailing list and member of tech forum. I unsubscribed but I'm getting these replies from everybody that I don't know and are not even to me. What can I do to stop getting these replies from people? Any suggestions? Oh, I even got a confirmation email when I unsubscribed. Go figure! haha! Rhonda - Original Message - From: Dennis Kiernan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Garage heater Crazy Rusty wrote: How well do the heaters work for larger spaces? The house I just bought has a 45 x 30 x 40 garage and I am a little worried about trying to heat it. That's a lot of space to try to warm and keep warmed. When I was living in Manhattan, back in the 60s, I had a loft thatwas unheated. It was 25' x 65' with 12 ft ceilings and lots ofwindows. I bought a pot-belly coal stove, about 3 ft tall, and setit up in the middle of the space, running the chimney about 12 ftacross the room and out one of the windows. It did a great job ofkeeping the place warm, and was cheaper to operate than oil, gas, or electricity.At that time, there were still plenty of people using coal heat inManhattan, altho it was illegal. The fire chief and buildinginspectors were understanding fellows, tho, if you treated them right.DK
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Re: [Chevelle-list] Garage heater
Hi! I was subscribed to the mailing list and member of tech forum. I unsubscribed but I'm getting these replies from everybody that I don't know and are not even to me. What can I do to stop getting these replies from people? Any suggestions? Oh, I even got a confirmation email when I unsubscribed. Go figure! haha! Rhonda - Original Message - From: Dennis Kiernan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Thursday, November 25, 2004 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Garage heater Crazy Rusty wrote: How well do the heaters work for larger spaces? The house I just bought has a 45 x 30 x 40 garage and I am a little worried about trying to heat it. That's a lot of space to try to warm and keep warmed. When I was living in Manhattan, back in the 60s, I had a loft thatwas unheated. It was 25' x 65' with 12 ft ceilings and lots ofwindows. I bought a pot-belly coal stove, about 3 ft tall, and setit up in the middle of the space, running the chimney about 12 ftacross the room and out one of the windows. It did a great job ofkeeping the place warm, and was cheaper to operate than oil, gas, or electricity.At that time, there were still plenty of people using coal heat inManhattan, altho it was illegal. The fire chief and buildinginspectors were understanding fellows, tho, if you treated them right.DK
Re: [Chevelle-list] San Antonio Body Shops and Mechanics
Ken, You might check with the guys at Vintage Air in San Antonio. Lot of serious cars around there and I am sure they will know a good team of wrench and stitch people. There are also some good shops in Austin. Jimmie Vaughn ( Stevie Ray's brother) hashad some very nice customs made in that area. My 68 that I picked up after I lost my 55 in a divorce this yeargotits new 468 Gen VI put in and is finally on the road - it really hates speed limits but we are trying to cope. The motor was built as a blower motor for a drag boat but the owner died and the motor sat unfinished. Never fired. We pulled the blower, reworked the seriously ported heads for a little higher compression, recammed it with a Comp riller and here we go.Tightened upa 4L60( yeah, we're waiting to see how long that will last). Now for re-paint, little time in the seat and then maybe look for a trade ( sorry but my heart's still with the Tri-Fives or 59-62 Impala.) Saw a '70 S/S with 17" wheels this weekend at the KKOA meeting in Denison Texas - love those lead sleds. 15's lookvery cool but forthe time beingand for the retro look I think I'll stay with the new 15" Crager SS's that were on it when I got it earlier this year. Best regards to all, see ya on the streets Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Ken's Email To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:04 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] San Antonio Body Shops and Mechanics Hi: I recently moved to San Antonio, Texas. I am interested in reputable mechanics, body shops, and upholstery shops in the San Antonio-Austin, Texas (or surrounding) areas. Thanks, Ken McDee Do you Yahoo!?Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com/a
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[Chevelle-list] Needed : 69 chevelle hood with tall scoop - steel
Time to get a new hood for my 68 with 69 hinges. Looking for steel with the 4 rear opening scoop. Goodmark has a nice one with a 2 opening and they seem to be a good company. Price is 450 pluss shipping but I can use all my chromie hood stuff. anybody got a line on a company that makes a quality steel one with a 4 bump or an alternative to recommend instead of Goodmark I'll try year one as well Thanks Scott
[Chevelle-list] Custom wwindshield wiper motot assembly
Anybod got a source for a tricked up ( as in small and shiny) wiper motor assembly to replace the big ugly stock one in a 68. Don't want a washer part, just a wiper motor - chrome is nice. Would like a bolt on substitute. Scott Somers Dallas
[Chevelle-list] For sale - New polished b/b long water pump
Looks like I have abrand new - yes, brand new as inbolted on but NOT used - Edlebrock big block polished aluminum long water pump for sale. Seems that my new Zoop big block, long water pump billet bracket pulley system for V belts might have a problem with finding a long v belt and even then watching it flap ( and throw at higher RPM). Looks like I have to bite the bullet ( again ) and go surp so I will need a reverse big block polished aluminum long water pump. My 68 is now sitting with a strong motor - computer says just shy of 600 hp ( wonder how long the 700R4 will live harmoniously with that). Never run GenVI marine 468 blower motor without the blower but reworked heads to get compression to 9.5. Very solid bottom end with comp roller upper stuff. Should be afun cruiser with bad gas mileage. But gas mileage is not what got me into this hobby anyway. Looking for a name for the car. Started to call it " ExWife " cause I seem to be putting a lot of money into it without gettingany pleasure but decided to go another direction.Might call it "Mistress" in hopes that with enough money thown her way, pleasure will soon be forth coming. Might also have a pretty new 750 holley. Seems a new 850 Road demon on a polished Air Gap was prettier. I'm thinking the cigarette lighter might make it through the process without changing it 4 or 5 times. Least I won't have to rebuy that 3 or 4 times. What the hell, it's still cheaper than golf. Contact me off line I your interested in the NEW pump. By the way, a plug and thanks to Vintage Air. My alsobrand newpolishedA/Ccompressor that just got bolted on has v belts. Gotta go surp.They said just send it back and they will switch over to surp. Now that's customer service. They really helped me onsome things on my ' 55Chev.last year and have come through again. My open compliments. Best regards to all Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] Hoods on a 68
Thanks Rick, that's just what I needed to know. Scott - Original Message - From: rick schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 7:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Hoods on a 68 Distance between bolt holes is the difference : 68 hood and hinges are 12 1/4 ctr to ctr 69-72 hood and hinges are 14 5/8 ctr. to ctr. rick schaefer 72 El camino http://www.chevelles.com/showroom/rick/elcamino17.jpg ACES #00140 Team Chevelle #00038 -- Scott Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thinking about getting a new hood with some additional clearance for my 68. Seems the engine is getting a little taller. I see a lot about a steel 69 hood with a 3 or 4 scoop system but I have to use 69 hinges. When I got the car a few months ago, it had a very nice set of chrome hinges and the guy handed me a set of not so pretty black ones. The question...how do I determine if the chromies are 68 or ( hopefully ) 69. I'd like to keep them if possible. Scott
[Chevelle-list] Hoods on a 68
Thinking about getting a new hood with some additional clearance for my 68. Seems the engine is getting a little taller. I see a lot about a steel 69 hood with a 3 or 4 scoop system but I have to use 69 hinges. When I got the car a few months ago, it had a very nice set of chrome hinges and the guy handed me a set of not so pretty black ones. The question...how do I determine if the chromies are 68 or ( hopefully ) 69. I'd like to keep them if possible. Scott
Re: [Chevelle-list] Insurance - Haggerty Texas
Not sure if plugs are cool on this list but I am in Dallas and I and a LOT of the custom/rod bunch around here go through Wally Smith at Smith Insurance Agency in Plano.1-888-465-3467 or 972-424-5541. I think he specializes in classic and race car insurance and the rumours are good ones.He's acar guylike us. Cost me $225 a year for my ' 68 and was about the same last year for my ' 55 I had at the time. Very low deductable ( if any) My regular insurance company that I am feeding about $100,000 a year in company and personal business through was $1,000 with a $1,000 deductable. Scott Somers - Original Message - From: Marlon Hanson To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 10:46 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Insurance - Haggerty Texas Wow. I'm in Texas and I've had Hagarty for years and have always gotten it direct from them. Maybe the law changed or something. Lot's has changed in recent years here so maybe I'm grandfathered in. Anyone else in Texas have that experience? Marlon.rick schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D.R.When I called Haggerty for insurance, they told me that I had to go thru a Texas agent, Texas law. They gave me the agency phone # in Garland. Cost was a bit higher than other states and probably some commission was tacked on too.rick -- "D.R. Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:I value both of my cars at $20,000 each and they both are modified. Texas is also one of the highest states for insurance costs. American Collector wanted $865 for both. Guess I can drop the value down and reduce the rate and go with J.C. Taylor. Thanks for the input.D.R. Jones
Re: [Chevelle-list] carb air intake system
Thanks, I will check into both of these. I'm gonna need it. I also find repro under bumper air horns as replacements on the W-30 olds on ebay (2486020815). My wrench really wants an outside air source for that engine. One of the challenges is getting outside air without taking out the cars high beams for a air intake. Been considering that as well. Had a guy yesterday tell my that I'm fixing to have an interesting hood clearance issue with the 468 engine, Edlebrock air gap manifold, Holley 750 and a 3 KN set with the Xtreme top. Edlebrock says the air gap is only 5/8 taller than the Performer R-2, P-2 ( whatever ) that was on the 396 so I guess we will wait and see. Got a spare hood hanging on the wall but I'm trying to to scoop it. If I do the W-30 thang I just need to get the ram air air cleaner housing and no hood repaining is needed. Still should go the Street and Performance injection system and just forget it. Bet I have one on there by Christmas anyway. And a 4L60E or better if the 700r4 don't make it like some predict. Especially if my wrench borrows the car some weekend for a 1/4 mile test drive. If it has a new tranny in it on teh following morning I'll know the other one bought the farm. Anyway, as always, thanks to you for the help. I'll keep you posted. Scott - Original Message - From: 65ss.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 4:51 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] carb air intake system Ok, found the other systems: http://www.ramairbox.com/ If you get either, let me know how you like them. I'm contemplating getting one for my Father In Law's El Camino.. Charles --- Check out my 502 powered '65 Malibu Super Sport Project http://www.65ss.com - Original Message - From: Scott Somers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2004 9:54 AM Subject: [Chevelle-list] carb air intake system In the process of checking out a sound in my 68' with a 396 I decided to pull the motor and am ending up with a very nasty 468 Gen 6 with roller cam/rockers, ported heads, very beefy bottom end and so on. Aughta do fine. It was being built as a blower motor, but we are recamming it and doing some head work and using a Edlebrock Air gap and 750 holley. Been thinking about a SP induction system but that's another 4 large so I might do that this winter. Finally, here's the question. I can only get a 3 filter and the extreme top fits right up against the hood. I don't want to rehood or go a scoop. Anybody seen a filter intake system that can get more air in. I heard about a ram air company in Canada and a cold air induction would be nice but other than killing off the high beams or low down scoops that pick up road trash, I'm not sure where the exit holes would be. Thanks in advance for the help. Want it to look god. At my age, it's not what ya do, it's how ya look while you're doing it. Cruisin'. Scott Somers
[Chevelle-list] carb air intake system
In the process of checking out a sound in my 68' with a 396 I decided to pull the motor and am ending up with a very nasty 468 Gen 6 with roller cam/rockers, ported heads, very beefy bottom end and so on. Aughta do fine. It was being built as a blower motor, but we are recamming it and doing some head work and using a Edlebrock Air gap and 750 holley. Been thinking about a SP induction system but that's another 4 large so I might do that this winter. Finally, here's the question. I can only get a 3 filter and the extreme top fits right up against the hood. I don't want to rehood or go a scoop. Anybody seen a filter intake system that can get more air in. I heard about a ram air company in Canada and a cold air induction would be nice but other than killing off the high beams or low down scoops that pick up road trash, I'm not sure where the exit holes would be. Thanks in advance for the help. Want it to look god. At my age, it's not what ya do, it's how ya look while you're doing it. Cruisin'. Scott Somers
[Chevelle-list] It goed, then stopped - now it goes again (I think)
It's going again...at least for now. Thanks to all for the help. I'm not sure if this was THE problem, but it was a problem. To you guys that know a lot more about this than I do, do think this was it or should I continue on with the autopsy. Her's what happened: While looking at the firewall plug for looseness ( it was tight), I remembered from my question about the weak lights ( relays came in to fix that this weekend ), it appears that the infamous horn relay is a major intersection in a Chevelle's electrical life contentment. So, I was looking around it for any loose or disconnected wires and, lo and behold, one of the screws that held several wire to one of the relay lugs was very loose allowing the wire lugs to wiggle - a lot. Now I am assuming that electrical connections and wiggle are not coexisting terms and can lead in cases to heat and bad connections. I tightened the screw up, several complete turns, and the car ran just fine. Do ya think that this was the cause - not full voltage to all the operating systems - or just an oh,by the way type thing and the culprit is still there - hiding for me to be out on the road - happy and cruisin and then pop and it coasts to a stopagain. Thanks again for your help. Seems I'm gonna owe a lot of people a beer at a Chevelle get together some day. Fine by me. Best regards to all Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] It goed, then stopped - now it goes again (I think)
When ?I could use a party Scott - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] It goed,then stopped - now it goes again (I think) Lets party at Scott's house
Re: [Chevelle-list] It goed, then stopped - now it goes again (I think)
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] It goed,then stopped - now it goes again (I think) I had planned on doing this tonight. Just for safety sake, I have a new relay coming in tomorrow. When the engine gets jerked in August for a new roller cam, roller rockers, converter, zoops brackets and any other neat stuff my wrench talks me into ( still saying no on the blower- at least for now), we are gonna get a little relay crazy and redo some things with a custom aluminum cover plate covering that neat open area where the horn relay is. Thanks again to all for the advice - and party suggestion. Scott Dallas Scott,sounds like you found the problem. I'd suggest disconnecting the battery, and wire brushing the terminals and connection on relay so they're clean and reassemble. As you said, and maybe it wasn't pointed out clearly earlier, the horn relay serves as a junction block for the main power wires so it's a good place to check. Oddly enough in checking Chevy's diagram, they call it a horn relay and junction block ! It's always seemed that if anything was going to stop my first 64 it was going to be something electrical. Pete Geurds Douglassville, PA
[Chevelle-list] Help- It goed, then stopped
Since I have only been a Chevelle owner since my divorce in April ( she got the '55 Chevy) I am not that familiar with the operations of the newer cars. I have a 68 SS396 ( cloned but it's still a Chevelle and fun to drive) It has been in the shop a lot of the time for more upgrades - front end, rear end stuff, discs, stereo system, dual electric fans and so on. The engine has about 2000 miles on the rebuild but we're fixing to pull it for a Comp roller cam, roller rockers, new converter on the 700R4, new bracket system, a new Air Gap manafold in the Permastar finish, yada, yada. It seems to be in good shape. My wrench is a serious go fast engine builder and feels the car is strong. Here's the problem. left the house on Monday to go for a spin. About 4 miles from the house, running fine, then quit. A pop then all, I mean all, electrical went away. While waiting for the flatbed, I checked the battery ( a 2 month old Optima) and it registered 12.53. Before the flatbed got there, I tried again to start it and it fired right up, ran for 15 seconds and stopped - again no electric to anywhere. Full power at the battery but none anywhere else. Actually a little, enough to barely power the inside lights for just a second and then dead. Walked out this morning and the batter registered 12.4 but it fired right up. I turned it off and came in to the office. Is there a thermal electrical thang somewhere in Chevelles. Obviously I cannot trust going anywhere in it until it is found and fixed. Reliability is way high up on my list of happys. Thanks in advance. Scott
[Chevelle-list] Help- It goed, then stopped
Thanks to everyone for the advice. Hope that as ( when ) ( if ) my knowledge increases on these subjects I can add rather than just ask. I really appreciate the help. Scott Somers Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] choppin the top ?
Ya might get hooked up with the members of KKOA. ( Kustom Kemps of America) (417-847-2940).Their end of the car hobby worldhas included chopped tops since the heyday of Barris, Starbird, Bailon and the Alexander Brothers. The Hirohata (sp)Merc is still a fantastic car. If anyone can help with a chop, the KKOA groupcan send you to the right person. It's not only the metal but the glass as well. I am having a ball with my 68 SS ( cept for that electric thang) but i am gonna have to have a flamed Merc with mailbox slot windows beforeItime out. Almost anything 50's ( or 40's or 30's and some from the 60's) looked better with a nice chop. Top have it done right, it ain't cheap. Last I heard here in Dallas, it was $3,000 but that was a long time back. But driving through ltle slots is a rush. Especially with a California rake. Ya can't see too far ahead and overhead stop lights are just a guesswork thing without the little plastic viewer like on 50's Chevy's. - Original Message - From: BIG_DOGG To: chevelle list ; NOVA MAIL Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 4:12 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] choppin the top ? ok 64 skylark has anyone choped a top before ? how hard was it ? could anyone do it ? cost ? thanks randy g AKA BIG DOGG Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out!
Re: [Chevelle-list] electric fan mounting question
I just put dual pullers on my 68 and the meter barely gets past 1/4 off cold - and it functions correctly.Just gotta watch stray paper sucking up against the outside of the radiator. Pullers will sure hold it there. They work great ( in Texas) and were rigged up as dual connections in case one goes bad the other is still working. They say getting rid of the bolt on fan adds to hp as well. And the elimination of a spinning mass sure won't hurt the water pump feelings. Plus it looks cool ( pardon the pun) . It ain't always what ya do, it's sometimes how ya look while you're doing it. Scott - Original Message - From: Bob Holtzman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] electric fan mounting question I want to put an electric fan on my '65 Malibu. The question is whether to mount it as a pusher or puller. I've been advised to mount it in front of the radiator (pusher) and leave the present 7 blade clutch mounted fan in place. It seems to me that the two fans could fight. In other words, it seems that there would be some engine speed level below which the electric fan is trying to move more air than the engine mounted fan can pass. At that point the engine fan would partially block the flow of the electric. This would be bad news as low engine speed is where extra air flow is needed, especially in Phoenix at this time of year. Does this sound as if it has the ring of truth or am I needlessly worried? Is anyone running a setup like this? Any advice appreciated. -- Bob Holtzman If you think you're getting free lunch, ..check the price of the beer!
Re: [Chevelle-list] Vette group posting
And I could have sworn it was a ruler. Saw one once but it was longer - Original Message - From: Mike Holleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Vette group posting I've seen one of those. It's a special attitude adjusting venturi nozzle. Really makes your corvette fly, really. Mike - Original Message - From: JDHall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 12:11 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Vette group posting One of the guys on my Vette NG posted this. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!! __ I have had my Corvette console and dash torn apart today (trying to undo all of the crap the previous owner had done which I won't get into because it makes my angry). While having the dash apart I found lots of goodies including some sockets, a screwdriver, an adjustable wrench, money, and an item I can't identify. The unidentified item concerns me because, unlike the rest of the stuff I found, I think it may actually belong in the car. I'm hoping one of you experts will take one look at it and know what it is. The following link should take you to a photo: http://tinyurl.com/36cek Thanks! Ryan -- 1979 L48
[Chevelle-list] Air Conditioning that ain't puffin
You'all were extremely helpful with the question about headlights that I thought that I would pose another question to the learned group of Chevelains. Hope you don't mind another so soon. Got part of the answer earlier but now looking for more tricks and fixes. In my 68 Chevelle - Air flow with the air conditioning. It don't blow...it sucks. It has good cold air but air flow is not like I am now use too with these modern systems. Just had a relay put in the line to the fan motor - that helped the fan speed at lot at lower engine speed - changed out the squirrel cage to a light weight plastic with a 325 ( I think ) CFM unit. Helped as well but more puff is needed. Got any ideas. A 600 or up CFM would be good but it is a small box and I am not really into major dollar a/c redos. But I am open to anything. It is factory with an upgraded compressor. Seems mainly just poor air speed. As it is going, since it will be a little on the miserable side in July and August her in Texas, my wrench is going to throw in a new cam, roller rockers, chrome Edlebrock intake to replace the one that is not chrome( figures), moon finned valve covers ( boy have those climbed in price since I got a set in the 60's) and I am sure a few other things that will appear on the bill that he has not told me about. He keeps looking at one of his blown 502s and bigger sitting on engine stands in the back room and saying, it could fit, cept fot a leetle hole in the hood and a big hole in my wallet. Other than the fun of trying to make something old behave like something young ( yeah, that logic probably had something to do with my recent divorce ) I'm starting to wonder if I should mount the Chevelle body on an entire Corvette running system. Especially going into summer in Texas, any help will be greatly appreciated. You'all really helped on the lights. Running with crappy lights was a serious inconvience, running without good air flow is bordering on human abuse and should not be tolerated. Thanks in advance. I hope to help with answers some day instead of just questions. Scott
[Chevelle-list] Headlights
I'm a new one to the list but I wanted to see what is good for a 68 Chevelle in terms of headlights. I had forgotten how poor lights were back then compared to now. It has halogen but they just don't light up the street like I need. My very nasty 58' Chev back in the early 60's ran some Lucas Flamethrower knockoffs that acted like a Star Wars Jedi Light Saber but that was then and this is now. are there better brighter bulbs for both low and high or maybe a pencil beam style for the highs. i'm 57 and the night vision that I use to have is shot. Thanks in advance for any help and or sources. Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] Headlights
Did you have to play with electrics or was it a plug-and-play. Got a brand and/or source. My halogens are not worth shootin at. At least not in the daytime but I am tempted at night. My 12 year old son hangin out the window with a cheap flashlight would be an upgrade.High beams turned on makes a sorta decent low beam. If you are not supposed to outrun your lights I need a restrictor to keep me under 14 miles per hour at night. Thanks again Scott - Original Message - From: Richard M. Pruett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:26 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Headlights I run halogens in my '67 pickup and I'm very happy with the brightness and distance that project. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott Somers Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 12:52 PM To: The Chevelle Mailing List Subject: [Chevelle-list] Headlights I'm a new one to the list but I wanted to see what is good for a 68 Chevelle in terms of headlights. I had forgotten how poor lights were back then compared to now. It has halogen but they just don't light up the street like I need. My very nasty 58' Chev back in the early 60's ran some Lucas Flamethrower knockoffs that acted like a Star Wars Jedi Light Saber but that was then and this is now. are there better brighter bulbs for both low and high or maybe a pencil beam style for the highs. i'm 57 and the night vision that I use to have is shot. Thanks in advance for any help and or sources. Scott Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-list] Headlights
Man, do I owe you a drink! Some very good reading here with good points. I had forgotten how we had used relays in my comp car audio car 10+ years ago to get some serious car audio stuff fired up ( I was a tweaker not a thumper).I even had relays turning on relays for grounding applications. Kinda opens up my world for lights- maybe a set of those blue ones that I cuss at when they come at me and give me a 30 second headache That site had some other good reading in it as well. Thanks to ya Scott - Original Message - From: Kent Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Chevelle Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Headlights Scott, Here is a link to MAD Electrical : http://www.madelectrical.com/electrical-tech.shtml Look under Brighter Headlights . I did this upgrade to my '68 and no longer have yellow headlights. Works GREAT ! Kent '68 Malibu ZZ502/502 ACES #5102
Re: [Chevelle-list] Hot Rod power tour
The one last year ended at the Place-Formally-known-as-the-Ball-Park-blah-blah( before that it was known as just a big empty field ) was a adult toy land on that Saturday. Cars and car goodies went on forever. Great vender rows and Bellamy (sp) Brothers put on a great show.I had my 55 Chevy then so I was more into 55 stuff and looking for a good deal on a T-bucket.Buckets ( especially with blowers) ended up scaringyou know whatout of my 12 year old sonow I'm in to my 68 velle stuff. Don't know about Friday but Saturday and Sunday morning should be a ball. It's a family deal. Wish I could make the run but the office life is too demanding right now. Might make the run to Tulsa on Sunday. I'll see how it feels then. Hope to meet some Chevellians there. Scott Dallas - Original Message - From: Dan Knutson To: The Chevelle Mailing List Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 9:03 PM Subject: [Chevelle-list] Hot Rod power tour Hey guys, I dont have my 66 ready for this year but I still would like to come out to the ballpark in Arlington. My question is Is there going to be anything going on Friday night at the ballpark. I want to bring my wife out there and was wondering what its like as I have never been to one. Thanks, Dan Clint Hooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More than likely,I'll be at The Ballpark in my 69. Clint HooperHH Custom,ownerLT5 Registry Directorhttp://www.LT5Registry.net/ACES #1650http://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint/clint_hooper.htm - Original Message - From: Dan Knutson any of ya'll going to make it to Arlington Tx? I plan to show up but chevelles still in the works, so I'll be on foot just droolin at the rest of ya.Ha! DanHerb Lumpp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Me and Mike Holleman will be there. Herb Lumpphttp://users.adelphia.net/~hlump/index.htm -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jaybird74Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 10:17 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [Chevelle-list] Hot Rod power tour Hello everyone, I was wondering who was going to the power tour?I will be going on the last two days, without my chevelle, ( no where near drive able) but I have wanted to go since the first one. I found out the same weekend that it finishes in Green Bay, the city is having a jahova witness get together. most of the hotels in a five mile radius were full already. Anyway, if anyone is going, I would like to meet anyone from the list, and put faces to names. Jason 69 chevelle
Re: [Chevelle-list] Searching for high output Air Conditioningblowersystem
Thanks to Clint and Trooper. The thought of doing a Texas summer without a blow your hat off air conditioning ain't a good thought. When I was in my 20's it was ok at 57, I pass. Crawled in the trunk on Sunday to start to put in a new amp .took a long time to get in and longer to get out. Invented some new words. Now the velle is at the car audio shop...getting a new amp...and I am in a comfortable chair at the office trying to figure out why I am still sore. I appreciate your help and will track down the leads. The air works great with a new compressor but just needs to huff a little ( actually a lot ) faster. Hope I can return the favor Best regards to the listers Scott '68 (cloned up) SS 408 Dallas Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Searching for high output Air Conditioningblowersystem Hi,Scott. What you're looking for is Old Air's Hurricane a/c system,made in Fort Worth. The blower is rated at something like 900cfm and will practically blow your hat off. Clint Hooper HH Custom,owner
[Chevelle-list] Searching for high output Air Conditioning blower system
Wanted to ask this learned group for a little help. Hope this is the right way to go about this. Since my wife ( now a ex-wife ) got my 55 chev during the divorce ( real nice 55 but it's ok ) I now have a 68 Chevelle and being in Texas would like to address the air conditioning. I have been spoiled with the high output blower systems of recently made cars as opposed to the put your face near the vent systems of yesterday. I have heard rumours of a company that makes a high output blower system for ( hopefully ) 68 Chevelles but no name has accompanied the rumour. Anybody got any leads for me on this. Shore would appreciate any help. Especially in August. Thanks in advance Scott Somers Dallas
Re: [Chevelle-List] unsubscribe chevelle-list /ATTN: CRGILLIARD!!!! MUST READ
That's Cool ! L.O.L - Original Message - From: rocky hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] unsubscribe chevelle-list /ATTN: CRGILLIARD MUST READ To unsubscribe from this service you must first purchase a Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit. The unit can be obtained from most hardware stores and dental clinics. Be sure to obtain the proper permits to operate the unit from the Nuclear Regulatory Commission and the Food and Drug Administration in Washington D.C. USA. Be sure to carefully unpack the kit and place each component in its accompanying mesh safety bag. Mount the Pershing DF4 mesinator on top of the perforated Gerring Mach 77 refibulator and attach them using the eight-millimeter torque fork. Be sure that the refibulator is mounted at a 66 degree angle and properly dispersed so that it is flush with the curved section of the Pyrex thistle tube. Place the four sections of the triangular separation gear into the posture cylinder and lock them into place using the band aid adhesive strip. Insert the wiggling pin into the wobbling hole, making sure that it seated correctly. Place the D cell battery and the eleven 9 volt batteries in the power chamber. The device should be calibrated before operation using the optional digital corkscrew accessory pack prior to operation. Insert the digital corkscrew through the electronic combustion service chamber using caution not to touch the reinforced tungsten igniter control module and quickly turn the inverter drive to 28.6 degrees. Turn the Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit upside down and hit the bottom plate with a 48-ounce ball-peen hammer while shaking the unit vigorously. Force open the door to the incineration valve compartment and set the pressure gauge to 719 psi. Close the door and seal it shut with duct tape. The unit should now be properly calibrated and ready to use. Before activating the Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit, you must first elevate it to a height of 229 feet above sea level to insure that the unit receives the proper oxygen level and barometric pressure. Point the aerial to 17 degrees north by northeast to within the parameters of the Telstar GS-2 weather satellite and apply pressure to the wing shaft on the southern most section of the modular accelerator. Using the special ratchet adapter supplied with the unit, rotate the heater core to the on position. The on position has been obtained when the green light begins to flash, signifying that the red light is about to go off. Once the red light is off, flip the toggle switch labeled ON/OFF to the ON position and count to 47 before logging on to the system. Logon using your username and password and wait for the prompt. Once prompted you must check the box with the appropriate action you wish to take and then press the pressure release button and turn off the compressor while turning the hand crank at 231 meters per minute. Next, press control, alt, delete, caps lock, shift, number lock, escape and tab simultaneously. Press enter. You will have one second to complete the procedure. If you fail to respond in the time limit allowed, simply purchase a new Craft-O-Matic Adjustable Subscription Cancellation Unit and start from the beginning. Please remember that this is the only way we will accept for you to unsubscribe from this service. We have made every attempt to simplify the procedure for your convenience. Failure to comply with the unsubscribe policy will result in immediate termination of your subscription so please follow the above directions closely Regards The Chevelle List __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[Chevelle-List] Matching Numbers?
I am fairly new to the classic car world. I just bought my first Chevelle last month and enjoy it immensely! However, people often talk about how a cars numbers should all match to make it more valuable. I do know that each car has a VIN and engine numbers and transmission numbers. Is there some book to access that will tell me if these numbers match? And where would I find such a book? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Scott
RE: [Chevelle-List] Matching Numbers?
I have 2 1972 Chevelle convertibles. I wanted to stick as close to stock as possible. Thanks for the help! Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Krister Meister Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Matching Numbers? Scott Numbers matching is individualistic and you will get different opinion's. To some it doesn't matter and Hot Rod is the way to go, to some it's feeling good that at least the engine / trans match the VIN, to some it's everything matching in build date order - just as the car rolled off the assembly line. My goal is it's nice to have a car as the day it rolled off the line. Sometimes getting to that point is expensive and turns into an obsession. Numbers matching does increase the value over a car that is not, but that doesn't mean a car that is customized wouldn't hold an equal or greater cash value for it's uniqueness. I've found the Chevrolet by the Numbers book very helpful in identifying correct numbers. It brings you into the world of casting numbers and dates.The book is offered in several ranges of years. What year car is yours? Krister Meister Bartlett, IL '66 SS #'s matching Scott Wrote: I am fairly new to the classic car world. I just bought my first Chevelle last month and enjoy it immensely! However, people often talk about how a car's numbers should all match to make it more valuable. I do know that each car has a VIN and engine numbers and transmission numbers. Is there some book to access that will tell me if these numbers match? And where would I find such a book? Any help would be greatly appreciated! Scott - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] Re:Tire Sizing ??
The 255/60/15 have a nice stance to them - Original Message - From: Dan McIntosh To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Re:Tire Sizing ?? Are you asking the diameter of the rim, or what width of tire to put on them?? Dan McIntosh64 Impala SSwww.alloldchevy.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 10:04 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Re:Tire Sizing ?? MorningRecently accquired some rally wheels for my Chevelle less tires of course. The rims measure across 8 inches. Any recommendations from anyone on what size tires 14 or 15 inch. If I need more info just ask me and I will get it.thanksJohnMalibuman66Phila, Pa
Re: [Chevelle-List] fuel pump
correct - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:45 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] fuel pump wouldn't it be good if the car cranked over a bit before starting- after sitting for a while- this would allow the oil pressure to get up a little bit before it fires?? less wear on the engine?? after a winter of sitting i will usually pull my plugs, squirt a little oil in each cyl, turn it over till i have oil pressure, reinstall the plugs, then fire it up!! - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 12 bolt differentiation
As soon as i find out , i will let you know Scott 67' Chevelle - Original Message - From: Batsy74 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 12 bolt differentiation Is there any diffrence between a chevy 12 bolt or a olds 12bolt? Thanks, Batsy 67 ElCamino (Mad Max Version)
Re: [Chevelle-List] 12 bolt differentiation
Thanx Tom!!! Scott 67' Chevelle - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 10:13 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 12 bolt differentiation In a message dated 2/10/2003 10:10:01 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any diffrence between a chevy 12 bolt or a olds 12bolt? Thanks, Batsy 67 ElCamino (Mad Max Version)oh yesOlds 12 bolts have bolt in axles, no C clips. They use 10 bolt carriers. There is an argument that they are stronger, which I can see to a degree. I think you are limited to certain gear ratios also, but not 100% sure.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] Help installing Exhaust Manifold.
it's probably going to be easier to try that first - Original Message - From: Robert Shaffer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Help installing Exhaust Manifold. Is it easier to lift the motor on one side, or pull the steering column forward? Rob S. 1966 Chevelle SS396 Conv. - Original Message - From: Clint Hooper To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:01 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Help installing Exhaust Manifold. You might have to loosen a motor mount and jack up one side of the engine,Rob. Clint HooperLT5 Registry Director'91 ZR-1 Callaway AerobodyTX TAGS: USA ZR1http://www.LT5Registry.net/'69 El Camino ProTourerhttp://dalesplace.com/misc/friends/clint_hooper.htm'99 Honda F6 Valkyrie custom - Original Message - From: Robert Shaffer I need some advice on installing the exhaust manifold on my 396. It's a 1966 Chevelle. I removed the headers to put the stock manifolds back on. The motor is in the car. The passenger side went in no problem. The driver side does not want to fit. I tried from the top and the bottom and the steering arm gets in the way no matter what I try. Is there a trick to putting it in? Do I need to remove the steering arm? If so, how difficult is that? Thanks for any advice. Rob S. 1966 Chevelle SS396 Conv. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 01/21/2003
Re: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheets for Sale on Ebay... whats your opinion??
Thr root of all evil , huh. The american dollar!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:16 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Build Sheets for Sale on Ebay... whats your opinion?? I think this really sucks that guys are putting original buildsheets on ebay... what a way to make a buck. I can see guys tearing into the cars, finding the build sheets, selling the cars and then holding the build sheets as hostages... or threating to sell them on ebay... to be gone forever... what a low blow to our hobby... IMO ... Check this one out:http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2403162655category=10076He's already got a bid for $50 and that isnt even the reserve. What the heck are you gonna do with a build sheet that doesnt match your car unless you try to find the owner and swindle them out of ... just like that one on the thread on TC where the guy was trying to get a $1000 for the Protecto-Plate out of the guy he just sold the car to. Sucks!! If I knew what the reserve was, I might just buy the thing to track down the owner and give it to them. Do you think that would make their day!! I know it would make mine. What a present!! Thanks for listening to my venting. Of course this is just IMO.Donnie
Re: [Chevelle-List] Insurance
- Original Message - From: Bill Vander Werf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] Insurance If you call Hagerty dont answer yes if they ask you if you have nitrous on the car. I said I was thinking about it after I gave her my name and I was abruptly told that they couldnt do business with me. I called back the next day to try again and they already had my name on file as a decadent nitrous user. I was told that if a car ever had nitrous on it they wouldnt insure it. I asked the girl how they could possibly know if a car ever had nitrous installed. She didnt know, but since I said I was going to install nitrous there was nothing they could do for me. At that point I got mad and said, I see, you would rather have someone lie to you than be up front. She said, No sir, but you said you were going to use nitrous. I said, Youre telling me that because I said I was thinking about putting a nitrous system in my car that you cant insure me? She said, Thats right sir, thats our policy. At that point I replied, Sounds to me like I would have insurance right now if I lied doesnt it? She wouldnt answer me. I think they are ridiculous. Bill Vander Werf -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:46 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Insurance I have both of my chevelles insured through Hagerty. No mileage limitaion, very easy to work with.Tom
Re: [Chevelle-List] Help installing Exhaust Manifold.
i have a 67' and i had to put the headers in before the motor - Original Message - From: Robert Shaffer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:38 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Help installing Exhaust Manifold. I need some advice on installing the exhaust manifold on my 396. It's a 1966 Chevelle. I removed the headers to put the stock manifolds back on. The motor is in the car. The passenger side went in no problem. The driver side does not want to fit. I tried from the top and the bottom and the steering arm gets in the way no matter what I try. Is there a trick to putting it in? Do I need to remove the steering arm? If so, how difficult is that? Thanks for any advice. Rob S. 1966 Chevelle SS396 Conv. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.445 / Virus Database: 250 - Release Date: 01/21/2003
[Chevelle-List] Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 09:14:05 -0500
Come on guys enough about the clones. Need a 12 bolt posi: w/ 4:11 to trade for 12 bolt posi: w/ 4:88's
Re: [Chevelle-List] 396 bb
will your buddy sell just the block - Original Message - From: JAMES GROOVER To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:22 PM Subject: [Chevelle-List] 396 bb if any body interested i know a guy in SAVANNAH GA. that has couple 396 blocks for sale if anybody in market let me know i will try to work up a deal . i know he has ablock and high comp heads he wants 500.00 for the block and heads
Re: [Chevelle-List] Fall Carlisle
Hi Florent. If I see 4 guys, speaking real French - not the Quebec style, and droolinfg over the show cars at Hershey on Saturday then I'll say hi. Enjoy your trip over et bonne chance. Ted From: florent vergenet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Fall Carlisle Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 21:33:28 +0200 Hi Graig I go to Carlisle and Hershey last week with 3 friends. It's a big travel for us, because we are in France. We fly to New York the 01 october, The 02 october, we visit NY And the 03 oct we go to Carlisle . And go to France the 13 october We have a hotel in York. If you see poor french touristes, maybe it's us bye Florent VERGENET Paris - FRANCE www.horsepower.fr.st - Original Message - From: Chad P. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] Fall Carlisle I would LOVE to go, but I am going to wait till spring carlisle. - Original Message - From: Craig Cerena Robertson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [Chevelle-List] Fall Carlisle Just wondering if anyone plans on attending Fall Carlisle in PA next month? I'm thinking about going on Saturday. Craig 69SS _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question
Larry Sounds like you're in the southern climates if they only want 500 for a convertible and 100 for an elky. Lucky man. We have to get them brought up to Canada and then they cost an arm and a leg. Its for this reason that I'm shortening an elky frame to put under my 64 convertible. Its a Beaumont sport deluxe ( canadian only model ) so is quite rare and thus worth all the bother. All running gear is std Chev. In answer to your question I got the measurements from the shop manual. While doing all my research I had fellow club members fax me in the frame diagrams from 64 thru 67 manuals ( both canadian and american versions ). All show the same dimensions ( although 1 diagram was in fractions of an inch ) Last weekend I removed the frame from an elky and am now sending it out to get sandblasted. Then plan on using POR-15 and maybe topcoat with a less glossy chassis black.n Have no experience with powder coatings. Nobody has come back with answers about whether frames from other makes such as Olds, Buick or Pontiac will also match up. I do know that I checked about 6 of them at a meet and each line has their own set of numbers. If someone had a diagram from a shop manual to fax me ( 705-258-4829 ) I'd be willing to compare. Hope this helps. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:45:42 EDT Ted: 3.17 exactly? wow its finally nice to hear a true number. i have been told by many it was 4 inches. I'm in the process of buying either a convertible or el camino frame for my 65. i want the convert but damn they want 500 for it and i can pick up the el camino frame for a 100. my plans are to cut it and have it powered coated (customer owns a coating company) before swapping. do you think this is a bad idea? i really don't want to do a frame swap until its finished. do you know of anywhere that shows the exact measurements? in 1970 my buddy and i bought a wrecked el camino with bad frame damage. we had a 68 chevelle frame and we cut and spliced the frame where the frame rails turned in. i wonder if we wouldnt have been better off sectioning the back half of the elkie frame onto the chevelle frame? Larry (z) _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question
Larry, thanks for all the numbers. For the most part numbers by Paul Herd matches the GM parts catalog I have but not 100%. You'll note a discrepancy between Paul Herd and Hollander regarding 66 and 67 convertibles. I believe Hollander is correct. I've spent the last 2 years trying to find just the right frame to put under my 64 convertible. Crawled under a lot of cars and checked frame part numbers versus the GM book. So far it is bang on. As I said originally the dimensions and mounting points are all the same from 64 thru 67. The differences are the lack of a slight indent in 64 and the different spring pocket in 67. Convertibles and el caminos are boxed thru the center section and coupes and station wagons are C shaped. While the differences exist they do not preclude using any year frame under any year body. Just change the springs if using a 67 under a 64 thru 66. By the way, the part number is stamped in the left outside of the frame ahead of the rear bumper bracket attaching slots. You'll also find the manufacturer and date. The difference in length of the coupe/convertible versus the station wagon/el camino is 3.17 inches. Ted You can find the dimensions in any shop manual or factory assembly manual. The 3.xx inches I referred to last night is expressed as 3.17 inches in some diagrams and 3 3/16 in others From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:17:01 EDT According to my info: Chevrolet parts by the number by Paul Herd 1964-65 chevelle except el camino or convertible #3837537 or 9773003 usage: 1964-65 chevelle, except convertible, pickup or station wagon 1964-65 convertible #3837597 usage: 1964-65 chevelle convertible 1966-67 all but el camino or convertible #3837527 usage: 1966-67 chevelle, except convertible, station wagon, or pickup 1966-67 convertible #389 usage:1966-67 chevelle convertible 1966 el camino #3895 usage:1966 El Camino or chevelle station wagon 1967 el camino #3893329 usage: 1967 elcamino or chevelle station wagon 1968-70 (this book only goes to 70 but it will work to 72) #6263666 usage: 1968-72 chevelle hardtop, coupe, or convertible except Monte Carlo; 1968-72 buick skylark hardtop, coupe, or convertible except 400 or 455 CI, 1968-72 olds cutlass coupe, hardtop, or convertible: 1968-72 Pontiac tempest/lemans coupe,hardtop or convertible except 455 CI notes: sedan has a longer frame and will not interchange 1968-72 el camino #6263665 usage 1968-72 el camino or chevelle station wagon CHEVELLES ADP Hollander 64-65-66 2dr:sdn.,h.t.,4dr sdn h.t (66) / interchange #1210A 64-66 s.w 1209B 64-66 el camino (pickup) / interchange #1209B 67 sdn h.t. / interchange #1313 67 conv. / interchange #1314 67 s.w. el camino / interchange #1458 68-72 : el camino s.w. / interchange #1941 68-72 2 dr exc. el camino / interchange #1943 68-71 4 dr. sdn h.t. / interchange #1956 72 4 dr. sdn. h.t. / interchange #1942 note B fits A using GM part #3838043 trans. support assembly (cross member) as you can see there are many differences between the two books. this was the first i heard about 64 being different than 65.i have done many chevelle swaps over the years and take many things for granted. it seems many of the ones they show not working will work will very little modifications it really wouldn't be very funny to have one all powder coated and ready to drop a body on it and find out it isn't the right one. back to the original question. if you cut close to 4 inches off that el camino frame it will work on the chevelle. Larry (z) _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question
64 frames are stand alone, 65 66 are the same and 67 are stand alone from a purity point. But all share the same measurements.They can all be made to interchange. Read on. In 65 with the addition of big blocks GM had to add a small indent into the front cross member to facilitate changing the starter without having to raise the motor. The 67 with a progressive ( tapered ) rear spring has a different top socket than the other years. Also convertibles and el caminos are boxed in the center section. Coupes and station wagons have a C shaped center section. Station wagon and El caminos are 3.xx inches longer than the coupes and convertibles. The good news is that the extra 3.xx inches is at the rear between the outside mount behind the rear axle and back cross member. So yes an el camino can be used under a coupe with only a small revision. It will be heavier but stronger. And this isn't a bad idea with some of the extra muscle some guys add. If you use a 67 under a 64 thru 66 then you must also use 67 rear springs. The convertible hutilizes more mounting points but these points are on all frames. Sorry for the long winded answer but before you rush out and buy something research it thoroughly. Research is cheaper than parts that don't fit. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Chevelle-List] 66 Chevelle SS frame question Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 11:37:42 EDT Chad: not completely the case. yes the el camino frame will work but you need to cut 4 inches out of the back section. also the station wagon is the same length. the convertible frame is the same length as the hardtop. the nice thing about either the el camino, station wagon or convertible is that the frame is boxed. 64-65 are the same, 66-67 are the same and 68-72 are the same. Also any other A body frame will work. Larry (z) _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com - To Unsubscribe please visit www.chevelles.net/list.html To start a new topic, send mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
