Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...

[whatshakin]

I am feeling like ripe idiot at this time :-0  
When I posted the original message I posted it to the wrong group!  It was 
intended for the comp.dcom.sys.cisco mob.
 
1000 apologies. I have been working on some 
labs for the last couple of hours and did not notice I seem to have started a 
little something here.
 
That said, it wouldn't do any harm to do something 
about the 25% of duplicate garbage that hits this list 
either.

Something I want to know but are not afraid anymore to as.....you guys & gals

[Olden Pieterse]

Hi there

Ive seen some of my fellow engineers put  : bandwidth 8  : statement in a
config on a 64k isdn line we used for dial on demand .
As far as I know you put the bandwidth equal to the size of your line (56 or
64 etc) .
What does this imply ? Is the datastreams smaller (8k) but still utilizing
the whole 64k or is it wasted space (which I cannot think why you would want
to waste bandwidth ?

waiting in anticipation

Cheers
  Olden Pieterse
   MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
  Technical Consultant 
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Passed CID 3.0

[Tan Choh Koon]

Hi,

Just passed my CID today and now finally obtain my CCDP.
Some tips to share with all of you who preparing for CID exam.

I use Cisco Press CID book & Boson test #1 & #2 ( #1 is close to exam
question not #2 ) Highly concentrate on tcpip network design, desktop
protocol design & wan design its cover 75% of exam. totals of 100 questions,
can return to previous answered question passing score 65.
What is missing in Cisco press CID book is Stratacom IGX/BPX/iPX and
stratsphere. This topics is covered in Cisco official training manual only.
Info in Cisco online on the BPX... does not help much too technical spec.

Well i feel it is much more easy than DCN to answer the questions cos no
case study. But i had higher scored for DCN ! 90 over marks( i thought i am
going to fail before i press submit button) . For CID I am really confident
with my scored, but i had only 72% passed. All because of SNA i scored 0 out
of 7. I knew i am very bad in SNA but any how i confident i can scored 2-3
question but i had zero, no ideal why ? few SNA question is closed to Boson
test #1 , may be Boson given me wrong answer perhap :))
Sorry to say that :)

Any how I am happy with it, I want to take long break later go for CCIE
written.
How many questions in ccie writen & how many exam to take ? except the lab.


Choh Koon, Tan
Systems Engineer
CCNP,CCDP

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what i just saw...

[Olden Pieterse]

I am in like Frame Relay stuff ,like in knee ,no hip deep in this fecn becns
AND what do I see ?
no not the the wolf in little red riding hood !!
BUT
and I quote (thank you Cisco) "Remember ,the total bandwidth is derived from
what was configured using the bandwidth command ,or the default which is
1.544 Mbps "

So you want to tell me that guys is wasting precious bandwidth ?
Please let me know when I can take the ice-cream off my forehead (if I had
one in the first place !)

...its ok you can smile now !
Cheers

  Olden Pieterse
   MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
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CIT 2.0 help

[Chandrakant chowgule]

Hi all ,

I had cleared FRS 1.0 exam recently , I am planning to take CIT 2.0 exam 
since CIT 1.0 is getting expire on 31st July . Thanks to all of them those 
who had helped me directly or indirectly . Is anybody on list had taken this 
CIt 2.0 exam recently . I need to know following
1) How Many question ?
2) How many commands typing questions ?.
3) How should I prepare it ?.
4) Is anybody knows some links , or reading material to prepare for it ?.

Waiting for your reply .

Regards

Chandrakant



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RE: Effects on convergence...

[Sebastien Venturoso]

Karen,

If what you are looking for is "Using Portfast and Other Commands 
to Fix Workstation Startup Connectivity Delays", here is the URL :
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/12.html

Regards,
Sebastien 
CCNA,CCDA, Switching 2.0

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Subject: Effects on convergence...


Greetings!

I was wondering if anyone knew the specifics on just how much of an effect
that PAgP, VTP, and DTP would have on convergence times. I had this info
once upon a time but someone lost the document and we can't determine when,
who, or where it might have strayed to. I looked on CCO but that info
doesn't seem to be posted anywhere and I can't test it out. The users would
get upset if I took down their network just to check something out and
they're the ones who pay me so

Thanks,

Karen E Young
Network Engineer
ELF Technologies, Inc
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Minimum Requirements for BGP Labs

[Cisco Kid]

Hi!

Please can someone indicate whether 5 x 25xx series with 4MB DRAM and 8MB
Flash each will suffice to practise BGP Labs at home.

Thanx






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Re: Minimum Requirements for BGP Labs

[NeoLink2000]

Another member and I used 4 routers to do BGP. That's what the book we 
were using asked for so I don't see why 5 wouldn't be enough. By the way, 
have fun with BGP8)

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA (CCDA on the 31st) 
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If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ 

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RE: learntosubnet.com gone?

[Michael Munoz]

The site is up now...  Good thing, I just recommended the site to a coworker
yesterday.

Mike

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> I recently suggested to a student that they go check out the "learn to
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failed support 2.0, have a format question, please reply

[Ms. Maria]

Hi,

Well, It was a surprise for me to see differnet format of exam as I saw in 
my other three CCNP exams.  There was no list of commands given, all you 
have to know from your own memory.  Many answer I gave, just missed them 
because of the way I answered.
Now my main question is, when we fill in the blanks, how we know what kind 
of wording to choose? like "identical" and "same" are similar word. How we 
get scored on them? Different people can choose different wording for the 
same answer.

I noticed that a lot of questions came from Cisco press official CIT 
book,everything covered, even the sections that I didn't pay close attention 
thinking that they are not important, like Appendix. My mistake was that I 
had another CIT book (not cisco press) and paid close attention to it,  but 
exam came from offical guide. aahh

and also How we answer for commands?  (there is not exhibit to choose from)

Router#show isdn status
or just
show isdn status

Please let me know as I am planning to retake it this week, in 2/3 days. 
(will make sure to read only offical cisco press CIT book, cover by cover)

Thanks!


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IMPORTANT NOTICE

[ian gomeche]

right thats got your attention!


as interesting and useful that this list is, it would be a lot more damn
useful and interesting if people would STOP posting in HTML. it takes ages
to scroll through all the HTML garbage in the digest. if people do not
understand why posting in HTML is bad news or understand how to switch their
mail client to plain text, then they really do not have a cats chance in
hell of doing anything 'tricky' like passing a CISCO cert!

i refer you to the guidelines for this list. the second part is also worth
noting as again people who do not understand how to edit emails are hoping
to become CISCO stars!

ian

'Always send messages in plain text, not HTML format.  Not everyone has an
HTML enabled mail client.
Always edit your quoted replies to the bare essential.  Do not quote the
entire message including the signature.  This just waste bandwidth. '


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Editing of posts (lack thereof)

[ian gomeche]

re my last posing about HTML and the lack of editing on this list . a
posting in the lastest digest has this at the bottom. (one of these of
course is generated by my post)

yes well.

 i rest my case

ian

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Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...

[Dick Silva]

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After reading Priscilla's post, I'd say each and every paragraph is violated
daily.
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>At 07:42 PM 7/28/00, whatshakin wrote:
>> From here on out I am going to reply to all those certification related
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>>Please go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related
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>>If everyone else would can this response and use it when they see errant
>>posts we can get it done quickly and comprehensively.  As long as we stop
>>answering all the questions they should go away...hopefully.  Further, if
>>everyone uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email
>>clients to avoid them ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send
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Re: About ping on router

[frank]

because my DNS server is outside of my router ,so i couldn't  ping IP of DNS
server successfully,and I traced it ,but it just could reach the IP address
of my ddn provider's router,then no
response .So i guess maybe it's not because of my router config ,it is the
config on provider's router.
but what makes me surprised is why I could successfully surf on the internet
and all is ok except that "ping"
on the router .
"Michael Fountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It looks like your router may not be getting a response from your DNS
> server.  Can you ping that server by its IP?
>
> Have you tried tracerouting from the router to the address that the PC was
> able to get to?
>
>
> >
> >I could ping IP address in windows 98 dos window successfully,but when i
> >telnet on my router (2610)
> >i could not ping IP address outside of my router,and if i ping
> >www.ibm.com,for example ,i could not get right DNS resolution,but i have
> >set
> >up DNS server on router  by "ip name-server a.b.c.d "
> >Router#ping www.ibm.com
> >Translating "www.ibm.com"...domain server (a.b.c.d)
> >% Unrecognized host or address, or protocol not running.
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> >Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: bridging analog phone service with Cisco VoIP

[neal rauhauser]

  The voice over IP depends on the IP portion of the network working - just set
up the routers as you normally would and the voice traffic will travel just fine.



You do have a potential problem with congestion here, don't you? I am assuming
more than one type of data is using the area of the network that has the 4500s in
it.

  This will be a good chance to exercise your cisco skills? Will IP precedence on
the 1750s do the job? Do you have to set up the 4500s to handle precedence as
well? Perhaps its a job for customer/priority queueing??

  You'll have a wonderful learning experience with this ...


Janto Cin wrote:

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, you wrote:
>
> thanks for the attention,
> correction for network layout :
>
>   x25 LLFR x25
> POTS1  1750  4500  4500  4500  1750  POTS2
>
> can I configure the voice connection between both POTS but still use x25 for
> data ? how to configure the routers ?
> thanks.
> Janto
>
> > If you just want to 'bridge' analog phone service this is what you need
> > - private line automatic ringdown (plar) means that the connection is
> > established as soon as one end goes off the hook. This is a point to
> > point config ... if you want to get fancier than this you need to create
> > a dial plan.
> >
> > --- router one ---
> >
> > voice-port 1/0/0
> >  connection plar 194
> > !
> > !
> > dial-peer voice 194 voip
> >  destination-pattern 194
> >  codec g711ulaw
> >  session target ipv4:x.x.x.241
> > !
> > !
> > dial-peer voice 1 pots
> >  destination-pattern 167
> >  port 1/0/0
> >
> > --- router two ---
> > voice-port 1/0/0
> >  connection plar 167
> > !
> > dial-peer voice 167 voip
> >  destination-pattern 167
> >  codec g711ulaw
> >  session target ipv4:x.x.x.245
> >
> > dial-peer voice 1 pots
> >  destination-pattern 194
> >  port 1/0/0
> >
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > > hi all,
> > >
> > > here's the network layout
> > >
> > >  x25  LL
> > > FRx25
> > > POTS 1 --- 1750 -- 4500 -- 4500  --- 4500 --- 1750
> > >  POTS 2
> > >
> > > how to setup the router for voice connection from both POTS ?
> > > thank you very much.
> > >
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Re: Help what is going on

[Michael Fountain]

>From Cisco:

*

Error Message

%RSP-2-BADCACHE: Overrun detected. End of MEMD buffer : 0x[hex] End of 
datagram : 0x[hex] bufhdr [hex]: [hex] [hex] [hex] [hex] Flushing Processor 
Cache
Explanation   A packet was processed that was greater in size than the 
maximum transmission unit size possible, or an illegal buffer header data 
area was found.

Recommended Action   Copy the error message exactly as it appears on the 
console or in the system log, call your Cisco technical support 
representative, and provide the representative with the gathered 
information.

***

Can't reallly help you much, except to say copy the message exactly and call 
TAC

Mike


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>I have a 7500, and in the log files it is showing %RSP badcache flow flush
>overrun detected. I have searche Cisco's website and I have also looked
>through the errors log manual and I can't find a single thing. This has not
>affected the router in anyway can someone help me out here.
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Accesslist/ syslog question?

[AABAN34]

 I have my Syslog Deamon running and I have been noticing this 224.0.0.10 
address 
coming up every once in a while? I know it's not a Class A, B or C address , 
It's a Class D address. What is it doing here?


41: *Mar  1 00:27:16: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list routerBin permitted 88 
192.1.1.1 -> 224.0.0.10, 65 packets


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RE: Accesslist/ syslog question?

[Olden Pieterse]

Ever heard of multicast and Class D ?

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Subject: Accesslist/ syslog question?



 I have my Syslog Deamon running and I have been noticing this 224.0.0.10 
address 
coming up every once in a while? I know it's not a Class A, B or C address ,

It's a Class D address. What is it doing here?


41: *Mar  1 00:27:16: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list routerBin permitted 88 
192.1.1.1 -> 224.0.0.10, 65 packets


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RE: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??

[Chuck]

Now I am confused.  I have been lurking here for some time.  My Cisco
Products Guide says that the 1912 supports "up to four overlapping bridge
groups or 1024 ISL VLANs.  Where did the "64" number come from?  Do I
understand that the 1912 has support for four VLANs on its own and up to
1024 through ISL?

Thanks for the help understanding this.

Chuck

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>You got it
>Visio will open a .emf i think. It is the same as the bmp though.
>Duck
>- Original Message -
>From: Niraj Palikhey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 'Donald B Johnson Jr' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 8:43 AM
>Subject: RE: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??
>
>
>> Hi Don,
>> Thank you for the excellent diagram.
>> So if I understand now, it is not 64 VLAN's that you can create on a
>Single
>> switch. It is 64 VLAN's that the switch can support(across multiple
>switches
>> and vlans)via trunks.
>> Did I get this right now?
>> Thanks.
>>
>> BTW: I could not open the .emf extension file. What program is reqd. for
>> this?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Donald B Johnson Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 2:12 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Donald B Johnson Jr; Niraj Palikhey
>> Subject: Re: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??
>>
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Donald B Johnson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 11:09 AM
>> Subject: Re: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??
>>
>>
>> > Trunking allows you to advertise Vlans in the same switch
>block to other
>> > switches. Switch blocks could have port densities into the
>thousands and
>> > these could be broken down into more vlans than you have ports on a
>single
>> > switch, so that is why you have more vlans supported than ports on a
>> switch
>> > CHECK THE DRAWINGs Attached
>> > Hope this helps. This will be made clearer as you progress into BCMSN
>and
>> > start working with switch blocks.
>> > Duck
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: Niraj Palikhey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 10:11 AM
>> > Subject: Re: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??
>> >
>> >
>> > > Would you make it a little clearer? I don't understand!
>> > > Thanks!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > >From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >To: "Niraj Palikhey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >Subject: Re: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??
>> > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:32:54 -0700
>> > > >
>> > > >Trunking may use more numbers than ports
>> > > >Duck
>> > > >- Original Message -
>> > > >From: Niraj Palikhey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > > >Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:41 AM
>> > > >Subject: 64 VLAN's in Catalyst 1900 switches??
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Hi,
>> > > > > I am trying to understand how a Catalyst 1912 or a 1924 can
>support
>> 64
>> > > > > VLAN's. If each port in a switch is configured for only 1 VLAN,
>then
>> > the
>> > > > > maximum number of VLAN's should be determined by the number of
>> ports,
>> > > > > right??
>> > > > > Also, how does a Catalyst 5500 switch support 1005
>VLAN's? Does it
>> > have
>> > > > > 10005 ports at the back of the switch?
>> > > > > Please advise.
>> > > > > Thank you.
>> > > > > Kind regards,
>> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> >
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Re: Accesslist/ syslog question?

[John Neiberger]

224.0.0.10 is the multicast group address used by EIGRP.

>  
>   I have my Syslog Deamon running and I have been noticing this 224.0.0.10

>  address 
>  coming up every once in a while? I know it's not a Class A, B or C
address , 
>  It's a Class D address. What is it doing here?
>  
>  
>  41: *Mar  1 00:27:16: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list routerBin permitted 88 
>  192.1.1.1 -> 224.0.0.10, 65 packets
>  
>  
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RE: a ccna question-help

[Chuck Larrieu]

Smart alec! :->

I think your answers make my point -  the practice test world is filled with
this kind of confusion. Which goes a long way towards explaining the
appreciation I for one have for the folks here who's insight is well worth
reading.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From:   ElephantChild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Saturday, July 29, 2000 12:05 AM
To: Chuck Larrieu
Cc: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: a ccna question-help

I don't see what problem you have with these questions.

On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote:

> For example, is it an OSPF database, or an OSPF table?

Yes.

> Is UDP layer 4 or layer 7

Yes

> Is ethernet connection oriented or connectionless?

Yes

> Is Cisco frame relay standards based or proprietary?

Yes

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Re: Catalyst menu and command line

[JEK]

First of all you will have to have Enterprise IOS Feature set for both
Switches
and then once that's uploaded you and press < CTRL-R > on the 3000 for
CLI Access and then on the 1900 you will be prompted for either CLI or
MENU Management access and you choose.CLI on the 1900 will put you
into user mode and then you can run < en > and then your enable secret
password
and this will be your < priv > mode for the 1900.

JEK
Senior Network/Hardware/Systems Engineer

"Rick Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> I have a Catalyst 3000 and a Catalyst 1900. I want to use these switches
to
> study for the BCMSN exam. However when I connect to the console port I a
> presented with a menu and I want to get to the command line to practice
> commands. Is there a command line option for these switches and if not can
I
> upgrade the software on them to get a command line option. Thanks.
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Re: Dealing with the garbage mail...

[Raymond Everson (Rainman)]

Here's my cut:
I don't know about ya'll, but I get >150 daily from this list. 
I agree absolutely and completely with Kevin;
that is, I have long ago grown weary of "How many questions?" ... "I
just passed my [fill in blank]"  &
even more, folks asking even the most rudimentary question without
so much as trying any of a bazillion,
readily available reference sources.  I'm tolerant of newbies
& novices, but not when you have to spoon
feed the little guys ... . that's called LAZY, and PLEASE do a little
homework before posting ...
Also, PLEASE, this is not an online auction or flea market.  Don't
ask where you can "getta" and PLEASE
STOP using this forum for discount sales.  It's disrespectful
and calls your professional ethics into question.
Likewise, "Integrator Wanted!"  you gotta be frickin' kidding me! 
You can't swing a dead cat by the
tail without hitting a head-hunter.  If you'd like a mailing list,
please ping me in private, but PLEASE!  This
is not a friggin' JOB POST.
"I'm a CCNA 2.0" "What's to become of my CCNA 1.0 cerification" "CCNA
expires" Look, I really am glad
for you and you've demonstrated an admirable commitment which enhances
ALL of our credibility.  BE
GIDDY SOMEWHERE ELSE!  Call your friends, shout from the mountain
top!!  PLEASE, for crying out loud,
take it where it belongs. and that AIN'T HERE.
Lastly, please do not drag the earnest participants of this list down
with clever demonstrations of your
social aptitude.  IOW:  two sentence banterings are a major
p.i.t.a.  Contribute something or hit the
bricks. honest.
Very sincerely,
Rainman
Kevin Wigle wrote:

hmmm
- I thought this list was for certification questions and help making sense
out of exam questions and understanding why this answer is wrong and that
one is right. Actually,
this list is not for technical inquiries.  You normally pay someone
for that. (unless Howard rescues you and puts the question into a certification
compatible form :-)  ) I
would prefer that our FAQ be updated and then I would agree to the blunt
answer like: Read the FAQ! for questions about how many questions, passing
score, how long, etc. my
take anyway. Kevin
WigleCCDP, CCNP..

- Original Message -

From:
whatshakin

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Friday, 28 July, 2000 22:42

Subject: Dealing with the garbage
mail...
 From here on out I am going to reply
to all those certification related questions I see with a blunt: Cisco
certification related posts are not acceptable in this newsgroup. Please
go to alt.certification.cisco with all your cert related questions. 
This newsgroup is for technical Cisco related inquiries and reference only. 
Thank You. If everyone
else would can this response and use it when they see errant posts we can
get it done quickly and comprehensively.  As long as we stop answering
all the questions they should go away...hopefully.  Further, if everyone
uses the same response we could use it as a filter in our email clients
to avoid them ever getting to our inboxes etc, or you could send the replies
directly to the original poster so the group does not have to endure them. What
do you folks think?  

RE: what i just saw...

[Chuck Larrieu]

Let's look at what is happening

With frame relay, you have a port speed and a committed information rate. If
the port speed is 128K, and the CIR is 16K, the following will happen when
you transmit data.

1) data will pass into the frame relay network at the full port speed.
2) The frame relay cloud ingress router marks all frames in excess of the
CIR as discard eligible.
3) If bandwidth is available, frames travel through the frame relay network
at whatever speed that link is provisioned for. If not, the frames are
dropped.

Several routing protocols - i.e. OSPF, EIGRP, IGRP - use "cost" as part of
the means of path determination. From a design standpoint one might have a
reason or two for preferring some paths over others. Let's say that I have
some servers in a co-location facility, and the co-lo charges for data
passed into and out of that facility, based upon fee plus charge for data
over a certain threshold on the line.  I have my primary path in. I want all
traffic to use that path. But I want a backup path in case the primary
fails. My primary is frame relay with a port speed of 1.54 and a CIR of
500K. My backup is a frame relay with a port speed of 1.54 but a CIR of 0.
If the router sees two paths, both costing the same (using default settings,
it's 64 for OSPF, isn't it?) Depending upon the routing protocol, I could
end up sending traffic over the circuit with the 0 CIR and incur substantial
fees. So I use the bandwidth command to influence the router to prefer the
primary path over the secondary.

I'm sure there are many other situations in which one might want to do
similar things.

HTH

Chuck




-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Olden Pieterse
Sent:   Saturday, July 29, 2000 12:50 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:what i just saw...

I am in like Frame Relay stuff ,like in knee ,no hip deep in this fecn becns
AND what do I see ?
no not the the wolf in little red riding hood !!
BUT
and I quote (thank you Cisco) "Remember ,the total bandwidth is derived from
what was configured using the bandwidth command ,or the default which is
1.544 Mbps "

So you want to tell me that guys is wasting precious bandwidth ?
Please let me know when I can take the ice-cream off my forehead (if I had
one in the first place !)

...its ok you can smile now !
Cheers

  Olden Pieterse
   MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
  Technical Consultant
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no access to router

[groupstudy]

Hi group
   I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that i can
see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
  my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router without
getting access to the console port is possible ??
thanks


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no access to router

[groupstudy]

Hi group
   I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that i can
see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
  my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router without
getting access to the console port is possible ??
thanks


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Re: 29xx switch

[rayza manesh]

Stephen,
You are right, there is a vlan setup that is not being used.
Thanks for the tips.
here are the Config file.
please let me know if that you needed.

again thanks a lot

Rayza

ip name-server A.B.206.253
!
interface VLAN1
ip address A.B.205.3 255.255.255.0
no ip route-cache
!
interface FastEthernet0/1
description Router
speed 100
duplex full
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/2
description AS/400
speed 100
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/3
description Plant1_server1
speed 100
duplex full
port group 1
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/4
description Plant1_server1
speed 100
duplex full
port group 1
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/5
description Plant1_srv2
speed 10
duplex half
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/6
description Email_server
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/7
description Firewall
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/8
description Term Server
speed 100
duplex full
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/9
description Database
speed 100
duplex full
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/10
description Plant1_srv4
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/11
description Database2
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/12
description Cad_server
speed 100
duplex full
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/13
description Cad-Hubs
speed 100
!
interface FastEthernet0/14
description BigBrother
speed 10
port monitor FastEthernet0/7
spanning-tree portfast
!
interface FastEthernet0/15
description IT-Hubs
speed 10
!
interface FastEthernet0/16
description MKT-Hubs
speed 10
!
interface FastEthernet0/17
description Eng_Hubs
speed 10
!
interface FastEthernet0/18
description HR-Hubs
speed 10
!
interface FastEthernet0/19
description TO-SW2
port group 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/20
description TO-SW2
port group 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/21
description TO-SW2
port group 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/22
description TO-SW2
port group 2
!
interface FastEthernet0/23
description Fiber-P2
port group 3
!
interface FastEthernet0/24
description Fiber-P2
port group 3
!
ip default-gateway A.B.205.1
*

>From: "Stephen Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: 29xx switch
>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 17:04:10 GMT
>
>first ,
>i dont like the look of the broadcast frames bieng sent .
>Thi s would indicate that either
>1. the default gateway is wrong
>2. there are paths that are setup in the config that arn`t responding.
>Also if you have Vlan`s that are setup but arn`t configured correctly (if 
>you have say two vlans and they are using the SAME ports it will constantly 
>braodcast to itself.
>3.collision frames could be from duplicate IP address`s check your serial 
>and Ethernet ports...
>
>4. What`s the setup ??? if you have a device that`s in this network`s route 
>then that also could cause problems...
>
>post the config and i`m sure we all will try to help
>
>regards
>
>steve
>
>>From: "rayza manesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: "rayza manesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject: 29xx switch
>>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 09:36:25 EDT
>>
>>Group,
>>
>>How would you interpret / translate these entries and if you see any trace
>>of error how would you troubleshoot it?
>>
>>Thank you for responding
>>
>>
>>2924c#show controllers ethernet-controller
>>
>>Transmit FastEthernet0/5   Receive
>>538094835 Bytes  3906491772 Bytes
>>   3624591 Unicast frames5028897 Unicast frames
>>281400 Multicast frames0 Multicast frames
>>   1185752 Broadcast frames25235 Broadcast frames
>> 0 Discarded frames2 No bandwidth frames
>> 0 Too old frames  0 No buffers frames
>>109875 Deferred frames 4 No dest, unicast
>> 80754  1 collision frames 0 No dest, multicast
>> 82613  2 collision frames 0 No dest, broadcast
>> 29839  3 collision frames 0 Alignment errors
>> 14630  4 collision frames 0 FCS errors
>> 64619  5 collision frames   187 Collision fragments
>> 92952  6 collision frames
>> 34412  7 collision frames   1560598 Undersize frames
>>  5250  8 collision frames564263 Minimum size frames
>>   333  9 collision frames   1281283 65 to 127 byte frames
>> 8 10 collision frames487990 128 to 255 byte frames
>> 0 11 collision frames155193 256 to 511 byte frames
>> 0 12 collision frames352075 512 to 1023 byte frames
>> 0 13 collision frames   2213332 1024 to 1518 byte frames
>> 0 14 collision frames 0 Oversize frames
>> 0 15 collision frames
>> 0 Excessive collisions
>> 0 Late collisions
>>***
>>
>>2924c#sh cont

RE: what i just saw...

[Olden Pieterse]

Excellent explanation Chuck !!
I've never thought of it that way .
I forgot (using the frame relay example) that the total of all the lines'
CIR's together should be equal to the line speed at your primary interface .
for example 16k---}
16k---}serial0(64k)(((Router))
---16k---}
---16k---}

But now I have a serial line (hdlc) with a isdn as backup . Now if the
serial goes down then the isdn should kick in . Why would that bandwidth 8
then still be in there ? If the serial comes up again then the isdn goes
down .
I mean you can either use the dial backup command or floating static or
something like that . In essence , the cost (routerwise to determine the
path) factor is sorted out .
I agree that if there is money involved and you pay for the amount of data
that flows , its another story .
But under perfectly normal circumstances why would one do that ?
If you configure an isdn line and you do the bandwidth 8 statement , do you
only use 8k of that whole 64k line ? Or do you use streams of 8k on that 64k
line ?

I'm asking because I am not sure . Thanx for the patience !

Cheers
Olden

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 5:33 PM
To: Olden Pieterse; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: what i just saw...


Let's look at what is happening

With frame relay, you have a port speed and a committed information rate. If
the port speed is 128K, and the CIR is 16K, the following will happen when
you transmit data.

1) data will pass into the frame relay network at the full port speed.
2) The frame relay cloud ingress router marks all frames in excess of the
CIR as discard eligible.
3) If bandwidth is available, frames travel through the frame relay network
at whatever speed that link is provisioned for. If not, the frames are
dropped.

Several routing protocols - i.e. OSPF, EIGRP, IGRP - use "cost" as part of
the means of path determination. From a design standpoint one might have a
reason or two for preferring some paths over others. Let's say that I have
some servers in a co-location facility, and the co-lo charges for data
passed into and out of that facility, based upon fee plus charge for data
over a certain threshold on the line.  I have my primary path in. I want all
traffic to use that path. But I want a backup path in case the primary
fails. My primary is frame relay with a port speed of 1.54 and a CIR of
500K. My backup is a frame relay with a port speed of 1.54 but a CIR of 0.
If the router sees two paths, both costing the same (using default settings,
it's 64 for OSPF, isn't it?) Depending upon the routing protocol, I could
end up sending traffic over the circuit with the 0 CIR and incur substantial
fees. So I use the bandwidth command to influence the router to prefer the
primary path over the secondary.

I'm sure there are many other situations in which one might want to do
similar things.

HTH

Chuck




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From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Olden Pieterse
Sent:   Saturday, July 29, 2000 12:50 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:what i just saw...

I am in like Frame Relay stuff ,like in knee ,no hip deep in this fecn becns
AND what do I see ?
no not the the wolf in little red riding hood !!
BUT
and I quote (thank you Cisco) "Remember ,the total bandwidth is derived from
what was configured using the bandwidth command ,or the default which is
1.544 Mbps "

So you want to tell me that guys is wasting precious bandwidth ?
Please let me know when I can take the ice-cream off my forehead (if I had
one in the first place !)

...its ok you can smile now !
Cheers

  Olden Pieterse
   MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
  Technical Consultant
Mobile : +27 82 410 8621

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RE: CIT 2.0 help

[Chuck Larrieu]

-Original Message-
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Chandrakant chowgule
Sent:   Saturday, July 29, 2000 1:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:CIT 2.0 help

Hi all ,

I had cleared FRS 1.0 exam recently , I am planning to take CIT 2.0 exam
since CIT 1.0 is getting expire on 31st July . Thanks to all of them those
who had helped me directly or indirectly . Is anybody on list had taken this
CIt 2.0 exam recently . I need to know following
1) How Many question ?
2) How many commands typing questions ?.
3) How should I prepare it ?.

CL: studying comes to mind

4) Is anybody knows some links , or reading material to prepare for it ?.

CL: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/itg_v1/index.htm
Is one good place to start. Hhhmmm. funny how so many questions point
back to CCO

Waiting for your reply .

Regards

Chandrakant



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assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[mickey_larson_2000]

I want an Ethernet interface on a router to get 
it's IP address for DHCP. Is this possible? How about on a PIX ethernet 
interface?

I type debug but nutthin happens !!

[Olden Pieterse]

Hi all

I was under the impresion that if you are plugged in on the console , you
should see the debugs spewing on your screen if you do debug !
I did a debug on the serial & nothing happens ... So maybe nothing worthwile
does happen , but there must be !
Then I typed  term mon . Usually thats only when you telnet hey ? And the
next thing I know here is all my debugging happening under my nose !
So if you debug and you see nothing and you feel silly , nobody would know ,
just do a term mon and it should come to you !

Hope it helps someone !

  Olden Pieterse
   MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
  Technical Consultant 
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Hi; group, need some info on CCNA2.0

[amitava sarkar]

Hi all;

I have got all materials and simulation software on
CCNA1.0. But I want to appear for CCNA2.0. I have got
Sybex book by Todd Lammie on CCNA2.0.

Can anybody tell me where i should concentrate
specially for CCNA2.0 ? Also, has enybody used
troytech CCNA2.0 material.

Thanks in anticipation.

Amitava 

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Re: Can two High density Serial ports be tied together? - YES!

[neal rauhauser]

  Someone wrote to say that you use a null HSSI which is absolutely correct.
I'd like to add that the timing setup is tricky - if you just set clock rate
you'll see CDP making it from the DCE to the DTE device but you won't be able
to establish two way communications. There is also a 'hssi dce' or something
like that which must be set.


   Not all Cisco HSSI ports are the same. I've had an easy time getting this to
work with a PA-H or PA-2H and a not so easy time getting it to go with a
CX-HIP.


rtc wrote:

>  A HSSI high density serial port is 50 pins and the size of a normal PC
> serial connector.
> We need a cale that goes  [50pinHSSI high density serial port]--- [50pinHSSI
> high density serial port]
>
> Its the only we can tie our 7513 to our other 3 routers because we cant
> afford more Ethernet Boards.
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RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[Olden Pieterse]

Yep you can !
Do a ip helper address x.x.x.x on that interface and check which udp ports
you want to forward . There is eight and by default they are all on .
 
so its 
int ethernet 0
ip adress x.x.x.x y.y.y.y
ip helper-address x.x.x.x
you can add this line ... ip forward-protocol udp 
 
Port numbers are as follow :
tftp69
dns553
time37
netbios name service137
netbios datagram service 138
bootp server67
bootp client68
tacacs49
 
A good idea would be to add only the ones you need .
 
Hope it helps 
Cheers
Olden

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RE: I type debug but nutthin happens !!

[Aaron K. Dixon]

I also turn logging console of when I'm configuring routers so that I don't
see the messages.  If you're connected the console more and aren't getting
and data try 'logging console'.  It's also helpful to turn this off when
initially configuring a router so that you don't have all the interface up
messages, etc.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Subject: I type debug but nutthin happens !!


Hi all

I was under the impresion that if you are plugged in on the console , you
should see the debugs spewing on your screen if you do debug !
I did a debug on the serial & nothing happens ... So maybe nothing worthwile
does happen , but there must be !
Then I typed  term mon . Usually thats only when you telnet hey ? And the
next thing I know here is all my debugging happening under my nose !
So if you debug and you see nothing and you feel silly , nobody would know ,
just do a term mon and it should come to you !

Hope it helps someone !

  Olden Pieterse
   MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
  Technical Consultant
Mobile : +27 82 410 8621

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RE: Accesslist/ syslog question?

[Aaron K. Dixon]

Also, as you see in your log message that it permitted 88.  88 is the eigrp
protocol type.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Subject: Re: Accesslist/ syslog question?


224.0.0.10 is the multicast group address used by EIGRP.

>
>   I have my Syslog Deamon running and I have been noticing this 224.0.0.10

>  address
>  coming up every once in a while? I know it's not a Class A, B or C
address ,
>  It's a Class D address. What is it doing here?
>
>
>  41: *Mar  1 00:27:16: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list routerBin permitted 88
>  192.1.1.1 -> 224.0.0.10, 65 packets
>
>
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RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[Olden Pieterse]

Did I understand you wrong 
 
do you want the router's ethernet address to be obtained from DHCP ?
if so ..
why ?
How are you ever going to telnet into that box ?
Remember the router's ethernet address is the desktop PC's gateway .
you cant chop & change that every now & then hey ?
 
Cheers
Olden

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I want an Ethernet interface on a router to get it's IP address for DHCP. Is
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Re: CCIE All-in-one (author: moron or genious?)

[neal rauhauser]

 


   It would appear that your contact with the book has so befuddled you that
you've forgotten what a paragraph is.

   You're right that there are some problems with the CCIE Lab Study Guide
but its a wonderful tool to have, all in all. I imagine the second version,
which I see is out on the shelves at Borders, goes a long way towards correcting
the deficiencies.


 I've used the book, errors and all, and I completed 70+ labs before I went
off and started inventing my own stuff.  I credit that book with getting me
through ACRC and I recommend it to anyone that is working on Cisco certs ...
wish I'd had it when I was doing the CCNA.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hey Groupies,
> Just wanted to bring up a topic that I've been pondering. About a month
> ago, me and another member on the list met up and started working on his path
> to CCIE, starting with the "CCIE All-In-One Study Guide." Any of you who have
> ever used this book have all seen the massive amounts of errors in it, from
> picture errors, config errors, and even syntax spelling errors. We are almost
> through the whole book and I must say that out of the 80 labs in the book, at
> least 75% of them have had AT LEAST a tiny glitch on the authors part. I have
> hated this for the time that I've been working in the book, until last night.
> Me and the other member were working on one of the BGP labs. First of all,
> there was a config missing for one of the routers, and for router D in the
> config there wasn't supposed to be a serial address...but of coarse in the
> picture there was one. We literally spent about 2 hours on what was supposed
> to be a 20 minute lab. I commented this and the other member said "I know,
> this is great." That's when I got to thinking. What if this author made all
> of these mistakes to teach us troubleshooting. I must admit, I have spent a
> lot of time on these labs trying to figure out what's wrong with them after
> we use what the author wants, and I even get better from it. On the way home
> last night I was thinking that maybe the book was intended to be that way and
> all of those errata's are just ruining it because it's letting people not use
> their heads. If this is NOT the case and the author didn't intend in making
> this book a troubleshooter, then maybe he is a moron. But if he did, indeed,
> write this book this way intentionally, then I have to tip my hat and say
> that he is a genius and a great teacher. Just my thoughts guys. After all,
> the second half of "the lab" is fixing what was made wrong. If this book can
> simulate that...then it is the best CCIE study guide to a certain level. Have
> a good one group,
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[Aaron K. Dixon]

Adding those commands would forward dhcp requests, but would not allow an
address to be assigned to the ethernet interface.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Subject: RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?


Yep you can !
Do a ip helper address x.x.x.x on that interface and check which udp ports
you want to forward . There is eight and by default they are all on .

so its
int ethernet 0
ip adress x.x.x.x y.y.y.y
ip helper-address x.x.x.x
you can add this line ... ip forward-protocol udp 

Port numbers are as follow :
tftp69
dns553
time37
netbios name service137
netbios datagram service 138
bootp server67
bootp client68
tacacs49

A good idea would be to add only the ones you need .

Hope it helps
Cheers
Olden

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Subject: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?



I want an Ethernet interface on a router to get it's IP address for DHCP. Is
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RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[Aaron K. Dixon]

Cisco 
added a command 'ip address dhcp' in IOS 12.1(3)T.  I know this works on 
the cable modem routers, but I'm not sure about ethernet.  Someone had 
posted earlier this week that it would work on ethernet.  Search the 
archives.
 
Regards,
Aaron 
K. Dixon

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  on ethernet interface?
  
  I want an Ethernet interface on a router to get 
  it's IP address for DHCP. Is this possible? How about on a PIX ethernet 
  interface?

RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[Aaron K. Dixon]

This is probably for a cable modem or DSL setup where you aren't assigned a
static address.  You can use a 2 ethernet router to obtain an address for
one interface and connect to the other where you nat to the outside ethernet
address.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Did I understand you wrong 

do you want the router's ethernet address to be obtained from DHCP ?
if so ..
why ?
How are you ever going to telnet into that box ?
Remember the router's ethernet address is the desktop PC's gateway .
you cant chop & change that every now & then hey ?

Cheers
Olden

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Can't email CCDA materials

[Lori S Carter]

I've been getting a lot of requests from people asking me to email them the materials 
from CCXX Productions. I only did this once for someone in Indonesia because he was 
taking the test in a couple of days and CCXX doesn't accept international credit card 
orders. I probably shouldn't have done it, but I just wanted to help him out. Anyway, 
I can't email anyone the materials because I could get in trouble for doing it. Sorry. 
 


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Physical layer (was Re: a ccna question-help)

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

Four of the five (well, FR in some new specs for things like inverse 
multiplexing) deal with the physical layer.  Do remember, however, 
that the original OSI definitions of layering came from a 
telephony/WAN perspective, and did not consider LANs.

Their physical layer specification is, indeed, a protocol.  Most 
physical layer specifications do not actually define the 
characteristics of the medium, although they do make assumptions 
about the medium. But specifying the pulse shapes, clocking, etc., 
certainly is a protocol about how to use the medium.

Data link protocols, among other things, deal with the interactions 
of multiple devices on a shared medium.

Physical protocols deal with the interactions of single devices with 
a medium.  For example, RS-232, RS-422/423, V.35, 10BaseT, 10Base5...

Medium specifications deal with the medium itself.  Media are less 
likely to be standardized by the same bodies that generate 
higher-layer protocol specifications.




>From: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: a ccna question-help
>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:15:49 -0500
>
>It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say
>ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections.
>
>I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums.
>
>The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says
>"protocols".  these are all physical mediums and not specifically
>protocols.
>
>Ed
>
>
>  > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is:
>  > select the connect-oriented protocols:
>  > 1.ATM
>  > 2.TOKEN RING
>  > 3.FDDI
>  > 4.Ethernet
>  > 5.FrameRelay
>
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RE: assign dhcp address on ethernet interface?

[Dale Cantrell]

Port numbers are as follow :
tftp69
dns553
time37
netbios name service137
netbios datagram service 138
bootp server67
bootp client68
tacacs49

A good idea would be to add only the ones you need .

Hope it helps
Cheers
Olden

We use port 37 for time, and not 123 NTP? If not give me a hint why?
Thanks,
Dale


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Re: Passed ACRC

[Ian Schorr]

Amit, congratulations!!

I take my test July 31st - 1st attempt.  I have a thing for the dramatic =)

-Ian

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>Thanks to all you... guys on the list to answer all my queries and
questions
>related to ACRC ... and lots of more... i passed my exam on the second
>attempt scoring 834 
>
>Not bad... got it done before July 31stCIT ..here i come...
>
>
>thanks
>amit
>
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Re: Something I want to know but are not afraid anymore to as.....you guys & gals

[lee]

Hi, from what i understand is the 'bandwidth' command would not affect the
actual link. Basically. the 'bandwidth' command is an informational command
for each of the interfaces. If you don't put in 'bandwidth', you wouldn't
able to get the accurate load statistic of the interface. For example, for
the serial interface, the default bandwidth is T1 (1.544Mbps), if the actual
link is 64Kbps and you configured the serial interface without 'bandwidth'
command, sure you get 1/255 load on the interface all the time, eventhough
the link is very congest.

Another functionality of 'bandwidth' command is you can use this command to
choose the prefer route that you want if you have multiple path to the same
destination. Some dynamic routing protocol is using 'bandwidth' as the
metric, like EIGRP, OSPF, etc.

Sorry for my bad english. Hope it can help you out.

regard,
lee

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> Hi there
>
> Ive seen some of my fellow engineers put  : bandwidth 8  : statement in a
> config on a 64k isdn line we used for dial on demand .
> As far as I know you put the bandwidth equal to the size of your line (56
or
> 64 etc) .
> What does this imply ? Is the datastreams smaller (8k) but still utilizing
> the whole 64k or is it wasted space (which I cannot think why you would
want
> to waste bandwidth ?
>
> waiting in anticipation
>
> Cheers
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[Fwd: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide]

[Jonathan Hays]

Usually I just ignore flame wars but my two cents: please remove
"RingLord" from the list. 

 Original Message 
From: "RingLord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you
just
into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp?
I
thought this list was about certification and studying. You working
towards
a meaningful goal in life.

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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide

if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this
late
in the game, FORGET it!  Go and buy Marc Russell's labs
(www.ccbootcamp.com).  That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!!

The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months
prior to the lab exam).  After that, you need some REAL labs!

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
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> Hello,
>   I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one
> Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it
> true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second
> hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can
> only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4
> weeks time.
>
> Cheers
> Kerry
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RE: Something I want to know but are not afraid anymore to as.....you guys & gals

[Chuck Larrieu]

To further clarify, here is the reference from the IOS command reference,
found on CCO
(  http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/i
nter_r/irdacces.htm#1018150 )
watch this nasty word wrap !!
---

Usage Guidelines




 Note The bandwidth command sets an informational parameter only to
communicate the current bandwidth to the higher-level protocols; you cannot
adjust the actual bandwidth of an interface with this command.




For some media, such as Ethernet, the bandwidth is fixed; for other media,
such as serial lines, you can change the actual bandwidth by adjusting
hardware. For both classes of media, you can use the bandwidth configuration
command to communicate the current bandwidth to the higher-level protocols.

IGRP uses the minimum path bandwidth to determine a routing metric. The TCP
protocol adjusts initial retransmission parameters based on the apparent
bandwidth of the outgoing interface.

At higher bandwidths, the value you configure with the bandwidth command is
not what is displayed by the show interface command. The value shown is that
used in IGRP updates and also used in computing load.




 Note This is a routing parameter only; it does not affect the physical
interface.




Examples

The following example sets the full bandwidth for DS3 transmissions:

Router(config)# interface serial 0
Router(config-if)#  bandwidth 44736
--

as you can see, the command merely communicates information to higher level
protocols, usually meaning routing protocols, which would use the
information for path determination.

HTH

Chuck


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as.you guys & gals


Hi, from what i understand is the 'bandwidth' command would not affect the
actual link. Basically. the 'bandwidth' command is an informational command
for each of the interfaces. If you don't put in 'bandwidth', you wouldn't
able to get the accurate load statistic of the interface. For example, for
the serial interface, the default bandwidth is T1 (1.544Mbps), if the actual
link is 64Kbps and you configured the serial interface without 'bandwidth'
command, sure you get 1/255 load on the interface all the time, eventhough
the link is very congest.

Another functionality of 'bandwidth' command is you can use this command to
choose the prefer route that you want if you have multiple path to the same
destination. Some dynamic routing protocol is using 'bandwidth' as the
metric, like EIGRP, OSPF, etc.

Sorry for my bad english. Hope it can help you out.

regard,
lee

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>
> Ive seen some of my fellow engineers put  : bandwidth 8  : statement in a
> config on a 64k isdn line we used for dial on demand .
> As far as I know you put the bandwidth equal to the size of your line (56
or
> 64 etc) .
> What does this imply ? Is the datastreams smaller (8k) but still utilizing
> the whole 64k or is it wasted space (which I cannot think why you would
want
> to waste bandwidth ?
>
> waiting in anticipation
>
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Re: Accesslist/ syslog question?

[Michael Fountain]

This is a multicast address used for a routing protocol, but I can't 
remember if it is EIGRP or RIP v2

If you need more info, I can let you know on monday.


>
>
>  I have my Syslog Deamon running and I have been noticing this 224.0.0.10
>address
>coming up every once in a while? I know it's not a Class A, B or C address 
>,
>It's a Class D address. What is it doing here?
>
>
>41: *Mar  1 00:27:16: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list routerBin permitted 88
>192.1.1.1 -> 224.0.0.10, 65 packets
>
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Re: CCIE All-in-one (author: moron or genious?)

[NeoLink2000]

Neal,
Before you reply to posts on this list maybe you should read them more 
than once so that you can fully understand their meaning. When I wrote that 
post I was in no way downing the author. I was just giving some people 
something to think about. If you had read what I wrote (really read it) then 
you would have seen that I loved all of the mistakes because I thought they 
taught how to troubleshoot at a higher level. 
Here you are telling people that they should get the fixes for the book 
when the mistakes actually make it better. So before you decide to "flame" 
someone on their opinions, ideas, and the way that they write 
paragraphs...maybe you should learn how to read and understand what someone 
is trying to say.  By the way, I made some paragraphs for you, do you feel 
better now Neal. Please lets not let this go any further. We're here to learn 
not flame.



In a message dated 7/29/00 1:13:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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<< 
  
 
 
It would appear that your contact with the book has so befuddled you 
that
 you've forgotten what a paragraph is.
 
You're right that there are some problems with the CCIE Lab Study 
Guide
 but its a wonderful tool to have, all in all. I imagine the second version,
 which I see is out on the shelves at Borders, goes a long way towards 
correcting
 the deficiencies.
 
 
  I've used the book, errors and all, and I completed 70+ labs before I 
went
 off and started inventing my own stuff.  I credit that book with getting me
 through ACRC and I recommend it to anyone that is working on Cisco certs ...
 wish I'd had it when I was doing the CCNA.
 
 
  >>


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If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ 

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Re: Minimum Requirements for BGP Labs

[whatshakin]

You never mentioned the amount of memory in your routers.  Also, which book
were you doing the labs from please.


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> Another member and I used 4 routers to do BGP. That's what the book we
> were using asked for so I don't see why 5 wouldn't be enough. By the way,
> have fun with BGP8)
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA (CCDA on the 31st)
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>
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Secondary IP Address

[Mike Narine]

Hi,
is there any disadvantages of having a primary and a secondary IP address on
an ethernet interface?
Thanks.

-Mike

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Re: NEW .. CCNA

[Mohammed Hakim]

Thanks ..

1) The passing score for CCNA-R/S is 822
2) 65 questions and 105 min.
3) About the practice test .. i only used the CD that comes with the CCNA
640-507 Guide (Cisco Press) but you should have the ICND (Cisco press too)
.. i went to the 640-507 (using the ICRC book) i fall for 6 points, then i
went to the 640-407 (Need ICRC) i took 841/1000 (passing score is 755!!)
time is 90 min about 78 questions.
If you have the time to take the 640-407 before the end of july 2000 .. go
for it .. low passing score (755) ...
About the practice test (i think i could not help you with names of
softwares !! i am sorry ..)
Thanks again :)
Mohammed Hakim - CCNA

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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 1:59 AM
Subject: RE: NEW .. CCNA


>
> Congratulation! New CCNA
> I am a new comer. Hope you don't mind if I will ask you some questions.
> 1) The passing score for CCNA2.0 is 822/1000 ??
> 2) How many questions and time?
> 3) What is a good practice test in the market that you suggest?
>
> Hope you doing real well on your next cert.
> Norman
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mohammed Hakim
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 07/28/2000 4:07 PM
> Subject: NEW .. CCNA
>
> Hello Group ..
>
>
> Today I have passed the CCNA - R/S Exam I score 841/1000 ..
> Thanks for you help .. special thanks to Mr. mic, Mr. Michael Coker,
> Mrs. Priscilla, Mr. Donald & other
> I will try to go to the MCSE+I, MCSE 2000, CCDA, CCNP .. CCSA
> **Any one have any idea about the Alcatel Certified Switch Specialist
> (ACSS) 
> (before it was Xylan Certified Switch Specialist) and what about the
> Alcatel Certified Switch Expert (ACSE)
>   is it
> near the CCNP level (you need 7 hours exam "Lab") Only asking i may work
> with an a big company (Sell Alcatel product) .. I do not know way it is
> hard to find a job for CCNA but in my home country the CCNA (can be
> count on your 10 fingers .. I think!!) even i will travel abroad .. :)
>
> Mohammed Hakim - New "CCNA" Today
>
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Router Security commands

[John lay]

Guys,

The following are recommended commands to be confgiured on all operating
interfcases or a router. Could someone explain it to me or give me a URL
which clairfy them.

no ip redirects
no ip directed-broadcast
no ip proxy-arp

Thanks a lot





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Re: Accesslist/ syslog question?

[ERIC BRATAGER]

It's an IGRP multicast address.  For a listing of multicast addresses:
http://www.arl.mil/ARL-Directorates/ASHPC/HPCD/MBONE/multi-address.html


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>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
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>Subject: Re: Accesslist/ syslog question?
>Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 19:43:45 GMT
>
>This is a multicast address used for a routing protocol, but I can't
>remember if it is EIGRP or RIP v2
>
>If you need more info, I can let you know on monday.
>
>
>>
>>
>>  I have my Syslog Deamon running and I have been noticing this 224.0.0.10
>>address
>>coming up every once in a while? I know it's not a Class A, B or C address
>>,
>>It's a Class D address. What is it doing here?
>>
>>
>>41: *Mar  1 00:27:16: %SEC-6-IPACCESSLOGNP: list routerBin permitted 88
>>192.1.1.1 -> 224.0.0.10, 65 packets
>>
>>
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Re: Router Security commands

[ERIC BRATAGER]

I'm not sure which version of IOS your running, but here is a link to 
Cisco's site that lists all of the 11.3 commands and their functions.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/cs/cs.htm#xtocid232668
 
   (watch the wrap)


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>Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2000 13:47:37 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Guys,
>
>The following are recommended commands to be confgiured on all operating
>interfcases or a router. Could someone explain it to me or give me a URL
>which clairfy them.
>
>no ip redirects
>no ip directed-broadcast
>no ip proxy-arp
>
>Thanks a lot
>
>
>
>
>
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VPNS/access-list question

[AABAN34]

I have setup this acces-list going to the Internet, I have a few 2000 
Server's some worksta's as well. I have VPNS setup on one of my 2000  Server 
and want to be able to access this network from the Internet, I have the 
server setup for VPN, but with this new access-list I put up I can no longer 
get to my VPN server no more. The server IP address is 198.168.1.10 and yes I 
am running NAT on my router, not PAT.
What kind of access-list do I need to be able to gain access to my VPNS 
without showing my tcp 137-139 and udp 137-139 to my Server.

Thanks


 Ethernet0
   ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
   ip access-group 105 out

  BRI0
  ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0


access-list 105 permit tcp any any established log
access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq 135 log
access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq 136 log
access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq netbios-ns log
access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq netbios-dgm log
access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq netbios-ss log
access-list 105 permit udp any any log
access-list 105 permit icmp any any log  

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TR supports multicast !!

[Mohammed Hakim]

Hello group,
 
About my last question: Does the Token Ring (IEEE 
802.5) support Multicasts (sending packets to a group of devices) 
..
I have two answre saying yes, i have asked an CCIE 
.. he told me:
 
TR does not do multicast, IBM or IEEE.  It does 
use functional addresses kinda like multicast, butthere's a verylimited set 
of these. IOS doc from Cisco on HSRP on Token Ring has some related 
material.
 
Now i have 2 answers .. any one can help 
..
Thanks
 
Mohammed Hakim - 
CCNA

Re: Catalyst menu and command line

[Rick Holden]

Thanks for you help the 1900 is working as I want it. However, I download
the latest version of software I could find for the Cat 3k and still can't
get to a CL. Can you offer any insight on this. Thanks.

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> First of all you will have to have Enterprise IOS Feature set for both
> Switches
> and then once that's uploaded you and press < CTRL-R > on the 3000 for
> CLI Access and then on the 1900 you will be prompted for either CLI or
> MENU Management access and you choose.CLI on the 1900 will put you
> into user mode and then you can run < en > and then your enable secret
> password
> and this will be your < priv > mode for the 1900.
>
> JEK
> Senior Network/Hardware/Systems Engineer
>
> "Rick Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > I have a Catalyst 3000 and a Catalyst 1900. I want to use these switches
> to
> > study for the BCMSN exam. However when I connect to the console port I a
> > presented with a menu and I want to get to the command line to practice
> > commands. Is there a command line option for these switches and if not
can
> I
> > upgrade the software on them to get a command line option. Thanks.
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Re: Catalyst menu and command line

[Rick Holden]

Thanks for you help the 1900 is working as I want it. However, I download
the latest version of software I could find for the Cat 3k and still can't
get to a CL. Can you offer any insight on this. Thanks.

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> First of all you will have to have Enterprise IOS Feature set for both
> Switches
> and then once that's uploaded you and press < CTRL-R > on the 3000 for
> CLI Access and then on the 1900 you will be prompted for either CLI or
> MENU Management access and you choose.CLI on the 1900 will put you
> into user mode and then you can run < en > and then your enable secret
> password
> and this will be your < priv > mode for the 1900.
>
> JEK
> Senior Network/Hardware/Systems Engineer
>
> "Rick Holden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> > I have a Catalyst 3000 and a Catalyst 1900. I want to use these switches
> to
> > study for the BCMSN exam. However when I connect to the console port I a
> > presented with a menu and I want to get to the command line to practice
> > commands. Is there a command line option for these switches and if not
can
> I
> > upgrade the software on them to get a command line option. Thanks.
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Re: Passed the CCNA

[Mohammed Hakim]

Great Job!! on the CCNA and good luck on CCNP
I have the same score on the CCNA (78Q/90Min.) 841/1000

Mohammed Hakim - CCNA :)

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> Just a note to thank you for all your help.  The test was harder than I
> expected.  78 questions/90 minutes.  I got a 841/1000. I used the sybex
and
> cisco practice test to help prepare but found them not to helpful on the
> real test.  Most questions are multiple answer form and all expect you to
> understand the concepts of what the questions are asking.
>
> Now I am onto the CCNP any suggestions on books to use to study would be
> most appreciated.
>
> Tom Gerber, CCNA (I can finally add thit after my name) :-)
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Re: CCNA (Some help)

[Mohammed Hakim]

 
Hello and Thanks for the help in advance 
..
 
First ..Sorry to be late I have passed the CCNA - 
R/S with 841/1000 .. I did not do to much reading .. I have used the CCNA 
640-507 + ICRC (Cisco Press) .. "Not a very good score :( "Took it to fast 
..!!)
 
Second: about the question which is faster a Switch 
is faster then the Bridge .. let say the a the switch is using the 
Store-and-forward method and it is in a large network (the switch) it have many 
ports .. but the Bridge only like a real bridge that connect two points !! .. Is 
the bridge are old fashion or extinct ??
 
Third: About the Does the Token Ring (IEEE 802.5) 
support Multicasts as I said before in the ICRC book page 59 it said it support 
Multicasts .. but another book the CCNA 640-507 Guide (New book) at page 721 
question number 22 it said that: (( Multicast is not allowed on Token Ring; 
broadcast is allowed on all LAN types ..etc)) I have finished the CCNA but I 
need to know is the Token Ring for IBM is different From the IEEE 802.5 or what 
?? Another thing is it true that I new Token Ring will be ready with 3 Gb/sec 
ore more .. and idea.
 
**Last question if any one can help (general): 
about the Nortel Certification .. Any one have the NNCNA the Nortel Networks Certified Network Architect (NNCNA) if 
yes .. is it equal to the CCIE or even higher as the company (nortel say it) .. 
To have it you need to have many certification and if you have an CCIE you will 
have about 150 point (need about 500 or 550 point) but there certification Nortel Networks Certified Design Expert (NNCDE) if you have it you get about 150 or 200 (more than if you have 
an CCIE !!) the ACSE (Alcatel) you have 150 points if you have MCSE you have 
75!! and if you have CCNA you get 50 points !! .. you need to have many 
certification 5 years exp. + 2 years in network design ... then you go to stage 
2 test !!!  the strange is 
that the MCSE give more points than CCNA but many say that the CCNA is higher 
than the MCSE (there is about +25 world wind MCSE .. in the MCSE2000 about 
70-80% will go off !!) any idea ..!! is it good for a job to have many Network 
certifications from (Cisco, Norte, Lucent, 3Com, Alcatel .. etc) 

 
Thanks for your help .. :)
 
Mohammed Hakim - 
CCNA

Passed the CCNA

[_ tlgerber]

Just a note to thank you for all your help.  The test was harder than I 
expected.  78 questions/90 minutes.  I got a 841/1000. I used the sybex and 
cisco practice test to help prepare but found them not to helpful on the 
real test.  Most questions are multiple answer form and all expect you to 
understand the concepts of what the questions are asking.

Now I am onto the CCNP any suggestions on books to use to study would be 
most appreciated.

Tom Gerber, CCNA (I can finally add thit after my name) :-)

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CCNP/CCDP certification finally obtained for this Vancouverite

[Tuline, Andrew]

Well, I've finally passed my last 2 exams to obtain my CCNP and CCDP
certifications.  I thought I'd post a bit of information on how I did this,
and what my current role at work is.

The study material I used was:

- Lots of CiscoPress books,
- Some Sybex books,
- Some Syngress books,
- Network Study Guides and other questions/study notes obtained on various
web sites.

I have a Palm Pilot (actually a Handspring) and would like to have used Palm
based study notes and questions. I believe the Sybex CID book had a subset
of questions that were on the CD for the Palm.


My web site www.tuline.eu.org has my books listed.

The order of exams I took was:

CCNA - Used Sybex book, and course material, studied hard and got 94%
(really like the Sybex),
CCDA - Used CID book, course material, and didn't do nearly as well (wished
I'd had the CCDA book),
ACRC - Used CiscoPress and Sybex, took a long time and did reasonable
(didn't like the Sybex book),
CMTD - CiscoPress and course material, was very motivated to learn this, and
got 93%,
CLSC - CiscoPress, and did reasonable (wished I'd had some actual switches
to play with),
CID - Used CiscoPress, Sybex, was overconfident, and squeaked through,
CIT - Used CiscoPress, Syngress, studied for only 3 weeks, and did
reasonable.

Since I'm a department manager, and have kids, most of my study time was
spent on the subway (we call it Skytrain) to and from work. Additionally, I
don't currently get a lot of hands on time, so I'll not be pursuing CCIE for
the time being. I'm not interested in selling any of my books or course
material, as I'll be using them for reference and probably for CCNP 2.0 down
the road.

My role is manager of corporate systems support for an 800 employee
organization, and I provide technical support of our Frame Relay network of
15+ sites. This frame network is using point-multipoint and EIGRP.
Additionally, our WAN also includes a couple of point to point links, as
well as a recently installed ISDN site.  We're going to be adding some Cisco
switches to our branch LAN in October, so I hope to get some decent switch
experience. I also occasionally consult to our clients in the area of
network design and implementation.


Andrew Tuline  CCNP/CCDP

Sierra Systems Group Inc.
Vancouver, BC

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Re: VPNS/access-list question

[Paul Schultz]

There's two things you need to allow for MS PPTP (I assume that's what
you're using.)

Port 1723 tcp, and either GRE (protocol 47) for NT4 or IPSec (protocol
50) for Win2k.  I know NT4 uses GRE and this setup will work, but I've
heard Win2k has an option to use IPSec instead.  Either way allow
whichever one you decide to use on your VPN server.

access-list 105 permit tcp any host X.X.X.X eq 1723
access-list 105 permit gre any host X.X.X.X   (Use this if you're using
PPTP with GRE)

access-list 105 permit 50 any host X.X.X.X(use this for PPTP with
IPSec)



On Sat, 29 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I have setup this acces-list going to the Internet, I have a few 2000 
> Server's some worksta's as well. I have VPNS setup on one of my 2000  Server 
> and want to be able to access this network from the Internet, I have the 
> server setup for VPN, but with this new access-list I put up I can no longer 
> get to my VPN server no more. The server IP address is 198.168.1.10 and yes I 
> am running NAT on my router, not PAT.
> What kind of access-list do I need to be able to gain access to my VPNS 
> without showing my tcp 137-139 and udp 137-139 to my Server.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
>  Ethernet0
>ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
>ip access-group 105 out
> 
>   BRI0
>   ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
> 
> 
> access-list 105 permit tcp any any established log
> access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq 135 log
> access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq 136 log
> access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq netbios-ns log
> access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq netbios-dgm log
> access-list 105 deny   udp any any eq netbios-ss log
> access-list 105 permit udp any any log
> access-list 105 permit icmp any any log  
> 
> Brian
> Email Address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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802.3 frame and full-duplex

[Stephen Ede]

I have 2 questions to submit here...

1)  If there are several nodes attached to a 10/100 switch, and all NICs are
in full duplex mode, this means that CSMA/CD is not in effect, loopback is
turned off, and any station can transmit and receive concurrently.  But what
happens when 2 or 3 of these stations want to transmit to one particular
station concurrently?  Is the traffic buffered in the switch?  Or is CSMA/CD
still in effect, even in full duplex mode, where they will sense the wire
and wait if busy?

2)  In the diagram below of an 802.3 frame, what does the "SD" potion
signify?

| Preamble | SD | Dest. Add. | Source Add. | Length | DSAP | SSAP | Control
| Data | FCS |

Thank you in advance.

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OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)

[Ryan Moffett]

I am beating myself to death with the following:

I am working through the following scenario in which R1 has a Frame Relay
connection to R2 via Frame-Relay and ISDN.  R1 is configured with ip ospf
demand-circuit on the ISDN interface as well as OSPF on the Frame Relay
interface.   R1 forms an ajacency with R2 over the Frame Relay link, and
they sucessfully exchange databases.   R2 is configured the same as R1 with
the exception of the ip ospf demand-circuit, it does not have that
configured.R1 does not show 2 entries in the show ip ospf neighbor
output.   R1 and R2 are not forming adjacencies over the OSPF
demand-circuit.I can ping between R1 and R2's BRI interfaces to bring up
the ISDN link, and it works properly, however, if I shut the Frame Relay
interface down, shouldn't the ISDN link come up as both links are in area 0?

R1 has the following relavent configuration:

!
int s0.102 point-to-point
encapsulation frame-relay
ip address 10.36.18.5 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 102
!
int bri0
encapsulation ppp
dialer map ip 10.36.19.5 
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer-group 1
!
router ospf 100
network 10.36.18.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.36.19.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit


R2 has the following relavent configuration

!
int S0.201 point-to-point
encapsulation frame-relay
ip address 10.36.18.6 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 201
!
int bri0
encapsulation ppp
dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer-group 1
!
router ospf 100
network 10.39.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.39.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

Thanks,
Ryan Moffett


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RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide

[Chuck Church]

In Brad's defense, he's helped me with a couple problems.  A lot of CCIE's
don't bother helping other people after they cross over to CCIE land.  He's
still on the list helping others, in addition to selling stuff.  If I had a
way to help other people learn Cisco and also make money, I'd do it.

Chuck Church
CCNP, MCNE, MCSE



>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 21:16:20 -0400
>From: "RingLord" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide

>Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just
>into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I
>thought this list was about certification and studying. You working towards
>a meaningful goal in life.

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Re: VPNS/access-list question

[AABAN34]

this worked


access-list 105 permit tcp any host X.X.X.X eq 1723
access-list 105 permit gre any host X.X.X.X 
access-list 105 permit 50  any host X.X.X.X 
access-list 105 permit tcp any any established 
access-list 105 permit icmp any any 
access-list 105 deny udp any any eq 135
access-list 105 deny udp any any eq 136
access-list 105 deny udp any any eq 137
access-list 105 deny udp any any eq 138
access-list 105 deny udp any any eq 139
access-list 105 permit udp any any 

 Interface Ethernet0
   ip address X.X.X.X 255.255.255.0
   access-group 105 out


I was able not to login into the 2000Server, but after I established a VPN  
to the Server it worked. I was able to get  login into the server. This seem 
only to work with 98SE and 2000 PRO, I have trouble with 95B for some 
reason??? I did upgrade to DUN 1.3. Is their anything else I should watch out 
for.

THANKS...

Brian
Email Address [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)

[Aaron K. Dixon]

It looks like you mistyped the ospf statements in router 2.  Under the ospf
process you specify addresses that have the 2nd octet of .39 when the
interfaces have a second octet of .36.  A good way to verify that your
interfaces coincide with your ospf configuration is to do a 'sh ip ospf
int'.  This will allow you to verify that the interfaces are configured for
opsf and then you can go into troubleshooting neighbor relationships.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ryan Moffett
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)


I am beating myself to death with the following:

I am working through the following scenario in which R1 has a Frame Relay
connection to R2 via Frame-Relay and ISDN.  R1 is configured with ip ospf
demand-circuit on the ISDN interface as well as OSPF on the Frame Relay
interface.   R1 forms an ajacency with R2 over the Frame Relay link, and
they sucessfully exchange databases.   R2 is configured the same as R1 with
the exception of the ip ospf demand-circuit, it does not have that
configured.R1 does not show 2 entries in the show ip ospf neighbor
output.   R1 and R2 are not forming adjacencies over the OSPF
demand-circuit.I can ping between R1 and R2's BRI interfaces to bring up
the ISDN link, and it works properly, however, if I shut the Frame Relay
interface down, shouldn't the ISDN link come up as both links are in area 0?

R1 has the following relavent configuration:

!
int s0.102 point-to-point
encapsulation frame-relay
ip address 10.36.18.5 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 102
!
int bri0
encapsulation ppp
dialer map ip 10.36.19.5 
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer-group 1
!
router ospf 100
network 10.36.18.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.36.19.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit


R2 has the following relavent configuration

!
int S0.201 point-to-point
encapsulation frame-relay
ip address 10.36.18.6 255.255.255.252
frame-relay interface-dlci 201
!
int bri0
encapsulation ppp
dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 
ip ospf demand-circuit
dialer-group 1
!
router ospf 100
network 10.39.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.39.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit

Thanks,
Ryan Moffett


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2500 flash and RAM

[Chuck Church]

Does anyone know of a good source for 2500 flash and RAM?  I'm looking for
something cheap for a home lab, so I don't really care if it voids the Cisco
warranty.

Thanks,
Chuck Church
CCNP, MCNE, MCSE

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Re: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)

[Ryan Moffett]

I apologize, the ip ospf network statements in my routers are correct:

network 10.36.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.36.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
!

I attempted to write down the config from memory and my previous post was
erraneous.

In any case, sh ip ospf int on both routers shows that OSPF is running on
both the Frame Relay and ISDN interfaces and on R1 the ISDN interface shows
that it is running as a demand circuit.   The problem is that it will never
establish an adjacency over the frame-relay link, nor attempt to.   If I
shut the Frame Relay interface down, the ISDN interface doesn't come up, and
even if I attempt to "nail-up" the ISDN connection so that it is always up,
adjacencies will not form.   I debug ip ospf adjacency, and nothing happens.
Both routers can ping each other over the ISDN link, I can make RIP, IGRP,
EIGRP and BGP talk over the ISDN connection, however OSPF still fails...

Ryan

""Aaron K. Dixon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It looks like you mistyped the ospf statements in router 2.  Under the
ospf
> process you specify addresses that have the 2nd octet of .39 when the
> interfaces have a second octet of .36.  A good way to verify that your
> interfaces coincide with your ospf configuration is to do a 'sh ip ospf
> int'.  This will allow you to verify that the interfaces are configured
for
> opsf and then you can go into troubleshooting neighbor relationships.
>
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Ryan Moffett
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)
>
>
> I am beating myself to death with the following:
>
> I am working through the following scenario in which R1 has a Frame Relay
> connection to R2 via Frame-Relay and ISDN.  R1 is configured with ip ospf
> demand-circuit on the ISDN interface as well as OSPF on the Frame Relay
> interface.   R1 forms an ajacency with R2 over the Frame Relay link, and
> they sucessfully exchange databases.   R2 is configured the same as R1
with
> the exception of the ip ospf demand-circuit, it does not have that
> configured.R1 does not show 2 entries in the show ip ospf neighbor
> output.   R1 and R2 are not forming adjacencies over the OSPF
> demand-circuit.I can ping between R1 and R2's BRI interfaces to bring
up
> the ISDN link, and it works properly, however, if I shut the Frame Relay
> interface down, shouldn't the ISDN link come up as both links are in area
0?
>
> R1 has the following relavent configuration:
>
> !
> int s0.102 point-to-point
> encapsulation frame-relay
> ip address 10.36.18.5 255.255.255.252
> frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> !
> int bri0
> encapsulation ppp
> dialer map ip 10.36.19.5 
> ip ospf demand-circuit
> dialer-group 1
> !
> router ospf 100
> network 10.36.18.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.36.19.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
> !
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
>
> R2 has the following relavent configuration
>
> !
> int S0.201 point-to-point
> encapsulation frame-relay
> ip address 10.36.18.6 255.255.255.252
> frame-relay interface-dlci 201
> !
> int bri0
> encapsulation ppp
> dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 
> ip ospf demand-circuit
> dialer-group 1
> !
> router ospf 100
> network 10.39.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.39.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> !
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan Moffett
>
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RE: 2500 flash and RAM

[Aaron K. Dixon]

I've always had excellent luck and found good prices at www.memoryx.com.  I
haven't checked their prices in a few months, but they should be worth
taking a look at.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:48 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2500 flash and RAM


Does anyone know of a good source for 2500 flash and RAM?  I'm looking for
something cheap for a home lab, so I don't really care if it voids the Cisco
warranty.

Thanks,
Chuck Church
CCNP, MCNE, MCSE

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Re: no access to router

[groupstudy]

too bad , i will throw my 2503 out of window ,kiding..,thanks anyway
ElephantChild wrote in message ...
>On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, groupstudy wrote:
>
>>I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that i
can
>> see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
>> unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
>
>Do the same cable and terminal emulator work with other routers? If tey
>do, check that the cable is properly seated and that there isn't dirt in
>the console port on the router. If it still doesn't work, the router
>may be set up for software flow control, or hardware flow control, or
>none at all. Try fiddling with the flow control setup on your terminal
>emulator and see what happens.
>
>If you have a null modem cable, you may also try the aux port.
>
>>   my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router without
>> getting access to the console port is possible ??
>
>No.
>
>--
>Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience
>true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades.
>
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Frame Relay config on Ethernet interface?

[Cesar D'Suze Scott]

Hi
Guys.

I was just
looking at the help results on a ethernet interface, and it shows up some
frame relay related commands. Between them is arp frame-relay,
frame-relay intf-type nni,  etc.

Does it
means that I can simulate a Frame-Relay Switch over an ethernet
interface?. I think it's a crazy question, but with all of these "X
over Y" features in the Cisco Routers, maybe this can be done.

I did the
"arp frame-relay", but when I try to put an frame-relay
intf-type dce, it shows up the following message:

%Ethernet0 :Frame Relay not configured on interface

Does
anyone has tried this stuff?. It really could help me if it works,
because I can use 2 2501 routers as a FR Switch with 2 interfaces (what a
dreamer :).

Some of
the routers of the lab has the frame-relay commands, but some of them
not. Even some of the with 11.3 does not have it. 

I really
think this can't be done, but with all of these commands I get confused.


Well,
thanks in advance for your help. Below is the output of what I did.

Bye.

César Enrique

R6(config)#int eth 0
R6(config-if)#arp ?
  arpa Standard arp
protocol
  frame-relay  Enable ARP for a frame relay interface
  probe    HP style arp
protocol
  snap IEEE 802.3
style arp
  timeout  Set ARP cache timeout

R6(config-if)#frame-relay ?
  broadcast-queue  Define a broadcast
queue and transmit rate
 
de-group
Associate a DE group with a DLCI
 
dlci-bits   
Set number of bits in the DLCI
  interface-dlci   Define a DLCI
as part of a subinterface
 
intf-type   
Configure a FR DTE/DCE/NNI interface
  inverse-arp 
Enable/disable inverse ARP on a DLCI
 
ip  
Frame Relay Internet Protocol config commands
 
keepalive   
Set LMI keepalive interval
 
lmi-dlci
Replaced by LMI-TYPE command
  lmi-n391dte 
set full status polling counter
  lmi-n392dce 
LMI error threshold
  lmi-n392dte 
LMI error threshold
  lmi-n393dce 
set LMI monitored event count
  lmi-n393dte 
set LMI monitored event count
  lmi-t392dce 
set DCE polling verification timer
 
lmi-type
Use CISCO-ANSI-CCITT type LMI
 
local-dlci  
Set source DLCI when LMI is not supported
 
map 
Map a protocol address to a DLCI address
  multicast-dlci   Set DLCI of a
multicast group
  payload-compression  Use payload compression
  priority-dlci-group  Define a priority group of DLCIs
 
route   
frame relay route for pvc switching
  short-status Get
short status from switch

R6(config-if)#frame-relay intf-type ?
  dce  Configure a FR DCE
  dte  Configure a FR DTE
  nni  Configure a FR NNI

where do live

[Jim Bond]

Hello,

I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
moving out of silicon valley bay area.

Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
difficult to find such a place, but close?

Thanks in advance.


Jim


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unable to upgrade image to 2514

[groupstudy]

Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514 for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: retry #1
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2



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RE: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)

[Aaron K. Dixon]

Try using the broadcast command in your dialer map commands.

ie.

dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 broadcast 

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ryan Moffett
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)


I apologize, the ip ospf network statements in my routers are correct:

network 10.36.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
network 10.36.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
!

I attempted to write down the config from memory and my previous post was
erraneous.

In any case, sh ip ospf int on both routers shows that OSPF is running on
both the Frame Relay and ISDN interfaces and on R1 the ISDN interface shows
that it is running as a demand circuit.   The problem is that it will never
establish an adjacency over the frame-relay link, nor attempt to.   If I
shut the Frame Relay interface down, the ISDN interface doesn't come up, and
even if I attempt to "nail-up" the ISDN connection so that it is always up,
adjacencies will not form.   I debug ip ospf adjacency, and nothing happens.
Both routers can ping each other over the ISDN link, I can make RIP, IGRP,
EIGRP and BGP talk over the ISDN connection, however OSPF still fails...

Ryan

""Aaron K. Dixon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It looks like you mistyped the ospf statements in router 2.  Under the
ospf
> process you specify addresses that have the 2nd octet of .39 when the
> interfaces have a second octet of .36.  A good way to verify that your
> interfaces coincide with your ospf configuration is to do a 'sh ip ospf
> int'.  This will allow you to verify that the interfaces are configured
for
> opsf and then you can go into troubleshooting neighbor relationships.
>
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Ryan Moffett
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)
>
>
> I am beating myself to death with the following:
>
> I am working through the following scenario in which R1 has a Frame Relay
> connection to R2 via Frame-Relay and ISDN.  R1 is configured with ip ospf
> demand-circuit on the ISDN interface as well as OSPF on the Frame Relay
> interface.   R1 forms an ajacency with R2 over the Frame Relay link, and
> they sucessfully exchange databases.   R2 is configured the same as R1
with
> the exception of the ip ospf demand-circuit, it does not have that
> configured.R1 does not show 2 entries in the show ip ospf neighbor
> output.   R1 and R2 are not forming adjacencies over the OSPF
> demand-circuit.I can ping between R1 and R2's BRI interfaces to bring
up
> the ISDN link, and it works properly, however, if I shut the Frame Relay
> interface down, shouldn't the ISDN link come up as both links are in area
0?
>
> R1 has the following relavent configuration:
>
> !
> int s0.102 point-to-point
> encapsulation frame-relay
> ip address 10.36.18.5 255.255.255.252
> frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> !
> int bri0
> encapsulation ppp
> dialer map ip 10.36.19.5 
> ip ospf demand-circuit
> dialer-group 1
> !
> router ospf 100
> network 10.36.18.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.36.19.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
> !
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
>
> R2 has the following relavent configuration
>
> !
> int S0.201 point-to-point
> encapsulation frame-relay
> ip address 10.36.18.6 255.255.255.252
> frame-relay interface-dlci 201
> !
> int bri0
> encapsulation ppp
> dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 
> ip ospf demand-circuit
> dialer-group 1
> !
> router ospf 100
> network 10.39.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.39.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> !
> dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
>
> Thanks,
> Ryan Moffett
>
>
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RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

[Aaron K. Dixon]

On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with the
router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash partitioned.
The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries to
copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
version?

Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity to
your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
reload.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
groupstudy
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi group
   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514 for
some reason ,please help.
system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:


2514#copy tftp flash
   NOTICE  
Flash load helper v1.0
This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
   
Proceed? [confirm]y

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]

Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y

Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: retry #1
%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)

System flash directory:
File  Length   Name/status
  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]

%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2



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Serial Cables for AGS+

[Patrick Murphy]

I have an AGS+ that I am using for my CCIE lab? I 
only have one problemI don't have any serial cables for it!
 
I have 12 serial ports  - 2 are DB-25 types ( 
I have DCE cables for these!)
 
I need to find some of those "other" 
cables?
 
Thanks in advance
 
Patrick Murphy

Re: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)

[Ryan Moffett]

Well, that nailed up the ISDN connection for good, but OSPF adjacencies
still did not form

I had to change my dialer map statements to dialer string statements...

dialer string  on R1
dialer string  on R3

...and it magically worked.now, why?   Why did it have a problem with
the dialer map ip statements?   I will try to figure that out, but at least
I know now what I need to do in this scenario.


""Aaron K. Dixon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Try using the broadcast command in your dialer map commands.
>
> ie.
>
> dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 broadcast 
>
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Ryan Moffett
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:51 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)
>
>
> I apologize, the ip ospf network statements in my routers are correct:
>
> network 10.36.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> network 10.36.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> !
>
> I attempted to write down the config from memory and my previous post was
> erraneous.
>
> In any case, sh ip ospf int on both routers shows that OSPF is running on
> both the Frame Relay and ISDN interfaces and on R1 the ISDN interface
shows
> that it is running as a demand circuit.   The problem is that it will
never
> establish an adjacency over the frame-relay link, nor attempt to.   If I
> shut the Frame Relay interface down, the ISDN interface doesn't come up,
and
> even if I attempt to "nail-up" the ISDN connection so that it is always
up,
> adjacencies will not form.   I debug ip ospf adjacency, and nothing
happens.
> Both routers can ping each other over the ISDN link, I can make RIP, IGRP,
> EIGRP and BGP talk over the ISDN connection, however OSPF still fails...
>
> Ryan
>
> ""Aaron K. Dixon"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > It looks like you mistyped the ospf statements in router 2.  Under the
> ospf
> > process you specify addresses that have the 2nd octet of .39 when the
> > interfaces have a second octet of .36.  A good way to verify that your
> > interfaces coincide with your ospf configuration is to do a 'sh ip ospf
> > int'.  This will allow you to verify that the interfaces are configured
> for
> > opsf and then you can go into troubleshooting neighbor relationships.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Aaron K. Dixon
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Ryan Moffett
> > Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:06 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: OSPF Demand Circuit - About to go crazy! :-)
> >
> >
> > I am beating myself to death with the following:
> >
> > I am working through the following scenario in which R1 has a Frame
Relay
> > connection to R2 via Frame-Relay and ISDN.  R1 is configured with ip
ospf
> > demand-circuit on the ISDN interface as well as OSPF on the Frame Relay
> > interface.   R1 forms an ajacency with R2 over the Frame Relay link, and
> > they sucessfully exchange databases.   R2 is configured the same as R1
> with
> > the exception of the ip ospf demand-circuit, it does not have that
> > configured.R1 does not show 2 entries in the show ip ospf neighbor
> > output.   R1 and R2 are not forming adjacencies over the OSPF
> > demand-circuit.I can ping between R1 and R2's BRI interfaces to
bring
> up
> > the ISDN link, and it works properly, however, if I shut the Frame Relay
> > interface down, shouldn't the ISDN link come up as both links are in
area
> 0?
> >
> > R1 has the following relavent configuration:
> >
> > !
> > int s0.102 point-to-point
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > ip address 10.36.18.5 255.255.255.252
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 102
> > !
> > int bri0
> > encapsulation ppp
> > dialer map ip 10.36.19.5 
> > ip ospf demand-circuit
> > dialer-group 1
> > !
> > router ospf 100
> > network 10.36.18.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
> > network 10.36.19.5 0.0.0.0 area 0
> > !
> > dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> >
> >
> > R2 has the following relavent configuration
> >
> > !
> > int S0.201 point-to-point
> > encapsulation frame-relay
> > ip address 10.36.18.6 255.255.255.252
> > frame-relay interface-dlci 201
> > !
> > int bri0
> > encapsulation ppp
> > dialer map ip 10.36.19.6 
> > ip ospf demand-circuit
> > dialer-group 1
> > !
> > router ospf 100
> > network 10.39.18.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> > network 10.39.19.6 0.0.0.0 area 0
> > !
> > dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ryan Moffett
> >
> >
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Re: no access to router

[neal rauhauser]

   Sounds like you have flow control enabled on the PC port you're using to
connect to the router.



groupstudy wrote:

> too bad , i will throw my 2503 out of window ,kiding..,thanks anyway
> ElephantChild wrote in message ...
> >On Sat, 29 Jul 2000, groupstudy wrote:
> >
> >>I got a cisco 2503 . I can't get access to the console except that i
> can
> >> see the information in the terminal window but can't not type .and
> >> unfortunately I lost the telnet password and enable password.
> >
> >Do the same cable and terminal emulator work with other routers? If tey
> >do, check that the cable is properly seated and that there isn't dirt in
> >the console port on the router. If it still doesn't work, the router
> >may be set up for software flow control, or hardware flow control, or
> >none at all. Try fiddling with the flow control setup on your terminal
> >emulator and see what happens.
> >
> >If you have a null modem cable, you may also try the aux port.
> >
> >>   my question is whether doing a password recovery to this router without
> >> getting access to the console port is possible ??
> >
> >No.
> >
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> >true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades.
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RE: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide

[Sam Adams]

I think the easiest way to find out if he contributed to the list is to
search the archive.  I did and Brad has contributed...

Nuff said.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 9:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide


RingLord, I just realized I didnt answer all your questions...

Post anything useful?  Uh, yeah, actually I have, check out my website for a
great deal on routers (www.optsys.net)  :)Have you ever posted anything
at all besides this post of yours?

Am I affiliated (sp) with CCBootCamp?  Yup, sure am!  I thought they are
AWESOME since I used them to pass my CCIE LAB, so why not get involved with
a good thing???

This list is about certifications and studying.  What's a better way to
study than with terrific labs and a rack of your own???  Did I mention,
that's what I did to get my CCIE?

Meaningful goal in life:  Help others pass their CCIE.  I know it was a
nightmare for me, so Im just trying to make it easier on the people that
subscribe to this list.  What's wrong with that?

Does that help?  Let me know if you have anymore questions.  If you need a
kit for your CCNA, Im sure I can help you out.

Thanks!
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796


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> Tell me Brad do you ever post anything useful to the group or are you just
> into advertising your company? Are you affiliatated with CCIE BootCamp? I
> thought this list was about certification and studying. You working
towards
> a meaningful goal in life.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:06 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide
>
> if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this
late
> in the game, FORGET it!  Go and buy Marc Russell's labs
> (www.ccbootcamp.com).  That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!!
>
> The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months
> prior to the lab exam).  After that, you need some REAL labs!
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> "kikpasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> >   I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one
> > Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it
> > true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second
> > hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can
> > only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4
> > weeks time.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kerry
> >
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Re: 29xx switch

[Jeffrey Humphreys]

 Rayza,

It would seem strange that you are having collisions on FastEthernet0/7 yet
it is set to Full Duplex.  Did you change the duplex settings and not clear
the counters ?  Do you have a problem that you are troubleshooting or is
this just a test :-)

Jeff Humphreys


- Original Message -
From: rayza manesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:36 AM
Subject: 29xx switch


> Group,
>
> How would you interpret / translate these entries and if you see any trace
> of error how would you troubleshoot it?
>
> Thank you for responding
>
>
> 2924c#show controllers ethernet-controller
>
> Transmit FastEthernet0/5   Receive
> 538094835 Bytes  3906491772 Bytes
>3624591 Unicast frames5028897 Unicast frames
> 281400 Multicast frames0 Multicast frames
>1185752 Broadcast frames25235 Broadcast frames
>  0 Discarded frames2 No bandwidth frames
>  0 Too old frames  0 No buffers frames
> 109875 Deferred frames 4 No dest, unicast
>  80754  1 collision frames 0 No dest, multicast
>  82613  2 collision frames 0 No dest, broadcast
>  29839  3 collision frames 0 Alignment errors
>  14630  4 collision frames 0 FCS errors
>  64619  5 collision frames   187 Collision fragments
>  92952  6 collision frames
>  34412  7 collision frames   1560598 Undersize frames
>   5250  8 collision frames564263 Minimum size frames
>333  9 collision frames   1281283 65 to 127 byte frames
>  8 10 collision frames487990 128 to 255 byte frames
>  0 11 collision frames155193 256 to 511 byte frames
>  0 12 collision frames352075 512 to 1023 byte frames
>  0 13 collision frames   2213332 1024 to 1518 byte frames
>  0 14 collision frames 0 Oversize frames
>  0 15 collision frames
>  0 Excessive collisions
>  0 Late collisions
> ***
>
> 2924c#sh controller switch
>
> Switch registers:
>
>   Device Type  : 0x00030073
>   Congestion Threshold : 0x91C0
>   Peak Total Allocation: 0x0224
>   Total Allocation : 0x
>   Peak Total Bandwidth : 0x09D8
>   Total Bandwidth  : 0x
>   Total Bandwidth Limit: 0x0A29
>   Lower Bandwidth Limit: 0x003F
>   Switch Mode  : 0x0014
>
> Cumulative garbage collection collected 0x6E7C buffers.
>
>
> **
> FastEthernet0/7 is up, line protocol is up
>   Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0050.2ae1.e047 (bia
0050.2ae1.e047)
>   Description: Firewall
>   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbit, DLY 100 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
>   Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive not set
>   Full-duplex, 100Mb/s, 100BaseTX/FX
>   ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
>   Last input never, output 00:00:01, output hang never
>   Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
>   Queueing strategy: fifo
>   Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
>   5 minute input rate 243000 bits/sec, 33 packets/sec
>   5 minute output rate 26000 bits/sec, 33 packets/sec
>  4936116 packets input, 3850732772 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 3659 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  4404 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 10 ignored, 0 abort
>  0 watchdog, 0 multicast
>  0 input packets with dribble condition detected
>  5880690 packets output, 945033918 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 3286 collisions, 3 interface resets
>  0 babbles, 0 late collision, 7548 deferred
>  0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>
>
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RE: where do live

[William E Gragido]

San Diego brother, San Diego

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Jim Bond
> Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:03 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: where do live
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
> tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
> sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
> highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
> moving out of silicon valley bay area.
> 
> Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
> winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
> much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
> difficult to find such a place, but close?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> 
> Jim
> 
> 
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Re: where do live

[Jeffrey Humphreys]

Jim,

Don't come to St. Louis, Mo.  It's hot and humid in the summer, cold in
snowy in the winter, and it floods in the Spring. However, for $3500 per
month you could get a mansion with a pool.  I'm talking a 3000 - 3500 sq ft
house and we even have basements :-)

Jeff Humphreys


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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:02 PM
Subject: where do live


> Hello,
>
> I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
> tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
> sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
> highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
> moving out of silicon valley bay area.
>
> Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
> winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
> much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
> difficult to find such a place, but close?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
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Re: where do live

[John Hardman]

The silicon desert! Phoenix.

8 months of "to die for" weather. 4 months of nasty hot, but you are in IT
and work inside ;-) Lots of recreation opurtunities (lakes, golf, hiking,
etc), lots of culture wild and conservitive. Pro teams of all kinds.

Lots of big companies have headquarters here, call centers, and lots of med
sized and start-ups too.

Traffic is not too bad, depending on where you live vs. where you work and
the schedule you have. I live 25 miles from work and have a 9 ish to 6 ish
schedule, it rarely takes me more than 30 mins either way.

For $3500 a month on house you could be in a very nice 4000+ Sqft house on a
very nice golf course.

If you have senior Cisco and/or UNIX and/or Oracle skills then you will like
find work right away.

$0.02
--
John Hardman, MCSE+I, CCNA
ArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin


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> Hello,
>
> I'm so tired of working 60-70 hours a week; I'm so
> tried of paying $3,500 mortgage per month for a 1,300
> sqf home; I'm so tired of driving on that crowed
> highway (if you consider 5MPH is high). I'm thinking
> moving out of silicon valley bay area.
>
> Where, in US, can I find a place that is not cold in
> winter, not hot in summer, no too much snow, no too
> much rain, IT job market not too bad? I know it's
> difficult to find such a place, but close?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
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Re: 802.3 frame and full-duplex

[Jeffrey Humphreys]

Stephen,

First, SD is the last octet of the preamble.  You get 7 octets of 0x55 and
the final octet is 0xD5 which is signaling the start of the Data Link frame,
hence SD.

On the switch question, if port A,B, and C are sending packets to port D I
think that the output queue on D would accumulate the packets if the offered
load is greater than the link's capacity.  However, the queue is not
infinite and eventually you will have to start dropping packets.

Jeff Humphreys


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Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:28 PM
Subject: 802.3 frame and full-duplex


> I have 2 questions to submit here...
>
> 1)  If there are several nodes attached to a 10/100 switch, and all NICs
are
> in full duplex mode, this means that CSMA/CD is not in effect, loopback is
> turned off, and any station can transmit and receive concurrently.  But
what
> happens when 2 or 3 of these stations want to transmit to one particular
> station concurrently?  Is the traffic buffered in the switch?  Or is
CSMA/CD
> still in effect, even in full duplex mode, where they will sense the wire
> and wait if busy?
>
> 2)  In the diagram below of an 802.3 frame, what does the "SD" potion
> signify?
>
> | Preamble | SD | Dest. Add. | Source Add. | Length | DSAP | SSAP |
Control
> | Data | FCS |
>
> Thank you in advance.
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Re: Passed CID 3.0

[Robert Padjen]

**Jumping up and down** The Sybex book has StrataCom
too!!! ;)

--- Tan Choh Koon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Just passed my CID today and now finally obtain my
> CCDP.
> Some tips to share with all of you who preparing for
> CID exam.
> 
> I use Cisco Press CID book & Boson test #1 & #2 ( #1
> is close to exam
> question not #2 ) Highly concentrate on tcpip
> network design, desktop
> protocol design & wan design its cover 75% of exam.
> totals of 100 questions,
> can return to previous answered question passing
> score 65.
> What is missing in Cisco press CID book is Stratacom
> IGX/BPX/iPX and
> stratsphere. This topics is covered in Cisco
> official training manual only.
> Info in Cisco online on the BPX... does not help
> much too technical spec.
> 
> Well i feel it is much more easy than DCN to answer
> the questions cos no
> case study. But i had higher scored for DCN ! 90
> over marks( i thought i am
> going to fail before i press submit button) . For
> CID I am really confident
> with my scored, but i had only 72% passed. All
> because of SNA i scored 0 out
> of 7. I knew i am very bad in SNA but any how i
> confident i can scored 2-3
> question but i had zero, no ideal why ? few SNA
> question is closed to Boson
> test #1 , may be Boson given me wrong answer perhap
> :))
> Sorry to say that :)
> 
> Any how I am happy with it, I want to take long
> break later go for CCIE
> written.
> How many questions in ccie writen & how many exam to
> take ? except the lab.
> 
> 
> Choh Koon, Tan
> Systems Engineer
> CCNP,CCDP
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Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514

[groupstudy]

Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
>On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with the
>router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash partitioned.
>The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries to
>copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
>Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
>boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
>version?
>
>Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
>0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity to
>your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
>reload.
>
>Regards,
>Aaron K. Dixon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>groupstudy
>Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514
>
>
>Hi group
>   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
>some reason ,please help.
>system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:
>
>
>2514#copy tftp flash
>   NOTICE  
>Flash load helper v1.0
>This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
>the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
>Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
>If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
>Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
>   
>Proceed? [confirm]y
>
>System flash directory:
>File  Length   Name/status
>  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
>[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
>Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
>Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
>Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
>Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
>Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]
>
>Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
>Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y
>
>Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
>  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
>=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
>%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
>%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...
>
>System flash directory:
>File  Length   Name/status
>  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
>[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
>Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]
>
>%FLH: retry #1
>%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)
>
>System flash directory:
>File  Length   Name/status
>  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
>[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
>Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]
>
>%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2
>
>
>
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Re: 2500 flash and RAM

[groupstudy]

  Do you know how many pins are there for a 16M memory for cisco 2501/2514,
coz i was asked this question when in the computer shop .and for a 16M
configuration,according to cisco, it's possible to us proven vendor memory
like Samsun but can any one interpret what the following mean:
  Cisco specified:
16 MB (4 MB x 36, 70 ns DRAM SIMM)
 Hitachi  HB56D436SBR-7AGS
 Hyundai  HYM536410M-70
 Mitsubishi  MH4M36ANXJ-7
 NEC  MC-424000A36BE-70
 Samsung  KMM5364100A-70

above are the approved model of 16M memory ,
what doese 4 MB x 36 mean?


"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
>I've always had excellent luck and found good prices at www.memoryx.com.  I
>haven't checked their prices in a few months, but they should be worth
>taking a look at.
>
>Regards,
>Aaron K. Dixon
>
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>Chuck Church
>Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:48 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: 2500 flash and RAM
>
>
>Does anyone know of a good source for 2500 flash and RAM?  I'm looking for
>something cheap for a home lab, so I don't really care if it voids the
Cisco
>warranty.
>
>Thanks,
>Chuck Church
>CCNP, MCNE, MCSE
>
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RE: unable to upgrade image to 2514

[Aaron K. Dixon]

Try the method that I listed about booting in boot mode and then doing the
upgrade.  If you're in boot mode a reload won't be necessary.  Are you sure
that you're config-reg is set correctly.  If it's set to 0x2142 the
configuration will be ignored upon reload.  If you do a show start the
config will be there, but not in a show run.  Could you send a show ver?

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:21 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: unable to upgrade image to 2514


Hi Aaron
  Thanks for your reply, but I did the same upgrade to my 2501,and it's
working .
  the tftp server  is connected through the ethernet port while it's not
accessible to tftp server due to the lose of configure after the reload
. Well i found this additional issue ,the router to which i am gonna
give a upgrade is now losing its NVRAM info every time it is reloaded or
power on/off, I think that's why the router is not accessible to the tftp
server anymore after the reload during the upgrade---because my 2514 can not
'remember' the startup-configuration !!  How am i gonna do now .

"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
>On a 2500 you should see reload requested.  You can't put an image with the
>router running unless it's in boot mode or you have your flash partitioned.
>The 2500 runs from flash so it reloads the router in boot mode and tries to
>copy the flash.  Across what medium does the router reach the tftp server?
>Some things don't work well in boot mode depending on the version of your
>boot rom's.  What version of boot rom's do you have?  Can you send a sh
>version?
>
>Try manually putting your router in boot mode. ie change config-reg to
>0x2101 and rebooting the router.  Then ensure that you have connectivity to
>your tftp server.  If you do then you can load a new image without the
>reload.
>
>Regards,
>Aaron K. Dixon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>groupstudy
>Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 9:11 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: unable to upgrade image to 2514
>
>
>Hi group
>   I am unable to upgrade system software from 10.3 to 12.0(3)to my 2514
for
>some reason ,please help.
>system memory is :4M main and 8M flash:
>
>
>2514#copy tftp flash
>   NOTICE  
>Flash load helper v1.0
>This process will accept the copy options and then terminate
>the current system image to use the ROM based image for the copy.
>Routing functionality will not be available during that time.
>If you are logged in via telnet, this connection will terminate.
>Users with console access can see the results of the copy operation.
>   
>Proceed? [confirm]y
>
>System flash directory:
>File  Length   Name/status
>  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
>[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
>Address or name of remote host [255.255.255.255]? 20.20.20.21
>Source file name? c2500-is-l_120-3.bin
>Destination file name [c2500-is-l_120-3.bin]?
>Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21...
>Loading c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 (via Ethernet1): ! [OK]
>
>Erase flash device before writing? [confirm]y
>Flash contains files. Are you sure you want to erase? [confirm]y
>
>Copy 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' from server
>  as 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' into Flash WITH erase? [yes/no]y
>=notice below==shouldnot happen ===
>%SYS-5-RELOAD: Reload requested
>%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ...
>
>System flash directory:
>File  Length   Name/status
>  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
>[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
>Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]
>
>%FLH: retry #1
>%FLH: c2500-is-l_120-3.bin from 20.20.20.21 to flash ... (retry)
>
>System flash directory:
>File  Length   Name/status
>  1   5631468  igs-j-l.103-11
>[5631532 bytes used, 2757076 available, 8388608 total]
>Accessing file 'c2500-is-l_120-3.bin' on 20.20.20.21... [failed]
>
>%FLH: Idling for 30 secs before retry #2
>
>
>
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Passed Switching Today!

[wind]

Dear all;

Thanks for the group provide me information for my exam.  And
Support 2.0 will be my last one
toward my CCNP.  Anyone has any information related to support 2.0, I will
greatly appreciate.
Under the agreement of Cisco.

Thanks in advacne
Vincent Chong
3/4 CCNP Now...



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RE: 2500 flash and RAM

[Aaron K. Dixon]

They use 72-pin SIMMs.  The x36 represents parity memory.  72 pin SIMMs
provide 32 data bite per cycle plus 4 parity bits which equals 36 bits.
Non-parity SIMMs would be represented by x32.   The 4 is a representation of
the 4 DRAM chips that make-up a 16MB SIMM.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon

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Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2000 12:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2500 flash and RAM


  Do you know how many pins are there for a 16M memory for cisco 2501/2514,
coz i was asked this question when in the computer shop .and for a 16M
configuration,according to cisco, it's possible to us proven vendor memory
like Samsun but can any one interpret what the following mean:
  Cisco specified:
16 MB (4 MB x 36, 70 ns DRAM SIMM)
 Hitachi  HB56D436SBR-7AGS
 Hyundai  HYM536410M-70
 Mitsubishi  MH4M36ANXJ-7
 NEC  MC-424000A36BE-70
 Samsung  KMM5364100A-70

above are the approved model of 16M memory ,
what doese 4 MB x 36 mean?


"Aaron K. Dixon" wrote in message ...
>I've always had excellent luck and found good prices at www.memoryx.com.  I
>haven't checked their prices in a few months, but they should be worth
>taking a look at.
>
>Regards,
>Aaron K. Dixon
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Chuck Church
>Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 8:48 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: 2500 flash and RAM
>
>
>Does anyone know of a good source for 2500 flash and RAM?  I'm looking for
>something cheap for a home lab, so I don't really care if it voids the
Cisco
>warranty.
>
>Thanks,
>Chuck Church
>CCNP, MCNE, MCSE
>
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