Re: bgp questions
I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MCMSN question
Well I'll know more on this tomorrow evening as I'll be taking the exam tomorrow, but I suspect MLS is going to be very heavy with a little HSRP. IP Multicast seems to be another hot area as well. ""Phantom"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 96dcu7$1kb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:96dcu7$1kb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi group I'm studying for BCMSN. Could anyone give me some tips for this one. How much do they ask on MLS and HSRP. What are the hot spots. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MCMSN question
Ahhh Excelent Some things to know well for the exam Know your switches (and what and where they are used...Acces,Dist..etc) Know the different commands 19 V 29 V 50 they will be asked. Know about CGMP..know HSRP concepts ...dosn`t dwell on it much MLSbetween 5-20 questions dependent on which exam they download (i`m told there are a pool of around 500 Q`s which go to make up a 65 Q exam)...so know it Well...all what diff machines can run it ...LG,4xx6,5,6... a few STP ...but no dwelling again... Ermm...it was only 3 weeks ago ...but i passed routing on sat so mind`s a blank HTH STEVE From: "Phantom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Phantom" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MCMSN question Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:34:54 +0200 Hi group I'm studying for BCMSN. Could anyone give me some tips for this one. How much do they ask on MLS and HSRP. What are the hot spots. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CIT question
Hi all, I am reading for the CIT exam and I saw something in the book that seems alittle bit strange: It says that in the sh int serial 2/3command the bandwidth = parameter is used to compute IGRP metrics only. Does this means that we don't care (if we don't play with IGRP) what is = the speed=20 of the connected line? Lets say that if we have an E1 line and the BW is = 256kbps, the interface will play on 2048kbps ? I think that it will play on 256kbps. I am a little bit comfused. Any help? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Digital DECbrouter 90T2a password recovery
Hi, I'm familiar with the password recovery techniques on Cisco kit but I can't see how to get the enable password or change the configuration register on a Digital DECbrouter 90T2A I have been given. Any help would be greatly appreciated. IOS is 10.3 Many thanks Chris Hinds Network Administrator Comdirect UK [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This communication is confidential and is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not that person you are not permitted to make use of the information and you are requested to notify mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately that you have received it and then destroy the copy in your possession. comdirect ltd is regulated by the SFA and is a member of the LSE. ** _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Connection via 800 is dropped by ISP even if the dialer idle-timeout is set
Hi everyone I've got an 800 connect via ISDN to my ISP the idle-timeout is set to 6000 but it's dropped anyway after 220 seconds even if traffic is passing through. Any idea (maybe isp doesn't like having a router conect rather than a modem ?) Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Log message from Cat4006
Hi Anyone can advise on the following message from a Cat 4006 switch ? %SYS-4-P2_WARN: 1/Filtering Ethernet MAC address of value zero from agent host table interface _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BPX going out of style?
On Jul 3, 3:55am, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: } } Photonic switching, where traffic is rerouted based at the high-speed } stream level rather than the packet or cell level, isn't here in } production, but it is coming rapidly. Photonic switching will } complement, not replace, routing. Please do not get me started on } the buzzword of "optical routing." With the capacity of newer Okay, how about lambda swtiching? :-) }-- End of excerpt from "Howard C. Berkowitz" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Command line sniffer
Hello, Is somebody know a command line sniffer for windows NT ? regards, Christophe. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT question
what i think you are saying is a bit off the mark. let me try and explain what i THINk your saying. you said I am reading for the CIT exam and I saw something in the book that seems alittle bit strange: It says that in the sh int serial 2/3command the bandwidth = parameter is used to compute IGRP metrics only. Does this means that we don't care (if we don't play with IGRP under the sh int serial command the bandwidth statment says the total bandwidth availible out that port if under igrp you only have a 256k line connecting to this port ...AND you use the bandwidth command to say use 50% it will use 50% of what the serial port is set to .in this case 2048 (50% of this is 1024) Does this means that we don't care (if we don't play with IGRP depends OSPF...EIGRP...IGRP iwould say yes we do . BGP.. i would say not really (but i know i`m going to get shouted at for saying that) RIP...`course not what is = the speed=20 of the connected line? Lets say that if we have an E1 line and the BW is = 256kbps, the interface will play on 2048kbps ? I think that it will play on 256kbps. i`ve never heard of this "speed" command "bandwidth" YES..so i`m afraid i can`t comment ... ANYONE. HTH steve From: "jack" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "jack" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CIT question Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:47:26 +0200 Hi all, I am reading for the CIT exam and I saw something in the book that seems alittle bit strange: It says that in the sh int serial 2/3command the bandwidth = parameter is used to compute IGRP metrics only. Does this means that we don't care (if we don't play with IGRP) what is = the speed=20 of the connected line? Lets say that if we have an E1 line and the BW is = 256kbps, the interface will play on 2048kbps ? I think that it will play on 256kbps. I am a little bit comfused. Any help? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CIT question
Your assumption is correct: the "bandwidth" parameter has no bearing on the actual speed of the line. If your provider is giving you 256k, then you'll run at 256k. However, the router will *assume* that you're running at T1 speed by default, and will use that bandwidth (1.544mbps) in its (E)IGRP metric calculation. To show how this works, don't set your bandwidth parameter, and look at your metrics. Then change your bandwidth to 256k, and your metrics will jump astronomically. BJ - Original Message - From: jack To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: CIT question Hi all, I am reading for the CIT exam and I saw something in the book that seems alittle bit strange: It says that in the sh int serial 2/3command the bandwidth = parameter is used to compute IGRP metrics only. Does this means that we don't care (if we don't play with IGRP) what is = the speed=20 of the connected line? Lets say that if we have an E1 line and the BW is = 256kbps, the interface will play on 2048kbps ? I think that it will play on 256kbps. I am a little bit comfused. Any help? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Azlan CCIE training UK
Hi all, has any one any experience of the CCIE RS training program Azlan provide. I would like feed back as to the quality of the training and it's relevance. Cheers Ged Bowey CCNP. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Exam Preperation for 640-504 or 640-441 ???
Which software can be used to prepare myself for exams and test simulation for cisco certifacition mentioned above? Thanks, Michael Nord _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BPX going out of style?
On Jul 6, 1:28pm, "Brian Lodwick" wrote: } } I have heard many tales of how ATM will explode soon, will be partenered } perfectly with DSL, and everyone will implement it, but I just haven't seen } it. I like the idea of improving technologies your engineering and support } staff are familiar with (Not counting new technology with old names like } IPv6). I hope this is able to work out, and isn't too far down the road. IPv6 is coming. There are just too many shortcomings in IPv4 that can't be solved using hacks. The biggest being the lack of address space. It really isn't a question of "if" but rather "when". } Is there any talk of using smaller tags in IP to create big pipes similar to } ATM's VCI's so that you could lower the ip address mask-lookup processor } overhead on backbone IP routers? I think this would be a neat idea. Even You've just described MPLS. } though the CAM table is fast the router must still read the entire address } and mask. Small pipe identifiers could be inserted into the ip header and } extracted at the gateways and lookup would be lowered. Like xtags on VLANS. IP headers are only 20 bytes and aren't much of a problem. The real problem is with compression, encryption, access lists, etc. Check out this URL for a study on what happens when access lists are used: http://www.nwc.com/1004/1004ws2.html }-- End of excerpt from "Brian Lodwick" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VTY LINES NON EXISTENT!!!!
On Jul 6, 7:16am, "Leigh Anne Chisholm" wrote: } } You'll notice that when you access your Catalyst switch via the console } port, that without issuing any sort of password, you're immediately able to } access several commands on the switch -- you've immediately got access to } "user mode". In some organizations, this can present a security risk. Can Yeah, I noticed this and found it rather surprising, not to mention disturbing. Especially, when you consider that the standard software doesn't have this problem (of course, it doesn't have the "enable" mode distinction, or a CLI for that matter). } you set a "user-mode" password for the Catalyst 1900 series switch? If so, } how? Somebody has already shown that it can be done. Digging through a switch, the only thing that comes to mind is TACACS? However, setting up TACACS just for a couple of switches seems like a big waste. }-- End of excerpt from "Leigh Anne Chisholm" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bgp questions
I sent this to the originator only... -Original Message- From: Andrew Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 3:52 PM To: David Tran Subject: RE: bgp questions I would say the answer is C. BGP will not send routes learned from internal peers to other internal peers. That's why some form of full-mesh, reflectors, or confederations is necesary for internal BGP. That rules out A and B, and D isn't true without redistribution. Andrew Cook -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Tran Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: bgp questions I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Log message from Cat4006
Hi The message you see on the cat4000 means that the catalyst saw a frame with a null source MAC address and informs you that it will not learn that MAC address and thus not add it into the CAM table. These messages are not displayed on cat5000 because the necessary code for displaying them is not there. Possible causes for having a NULL mac address: a smartbit sending such frames, a router or station which MAC address has been modified or sometimes other vendor switches use such null MAC address as source MAC address (3Com for instance). If none of the above causes apply to your network, the only ways to remove these messages are: 1) use a sniffer to find out which machine is sending such frames 2) change the logging level so the messages are not displayed anymore. This only clears the logging but does not resolve the exact problem (it only masks it). You can change the logging level by using the following command: set logging level sys 3 Regards, /Stuart - | | Stuart Potts ||| ||| Customer Support Engineer .|. .|. .:|:.:|:.Phone: (44) 1908 203478 c i s c o S y s t e m s Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Empowering the Internet Generation" - -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lim Kok Hua Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Log message from Cat4006 Hi Anyone can advise on the following message from a Cat 4006 switch ? %SYS-4-P2_WARN: 1/Filtering Ethernet MAC address of value zero from agent host table interface _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
frame relay question
htmlDIVHi.nbsp; WOuld someone please explain to me why in the WORLD do I not need to have one router configured as a frame relay switch if I have two routers piggybacked, and both have built in csu/dsu's?nbsp; That makes no sense to me!nbsp; /DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVIf I have two routers back to back with the serial cables, fine.nbsp; I understand that--just configure one as a switch, and it will work.nbsp; But I have two with built in csu/dsu's and cant get up/up for the life of me.../DIV DIVnbsp;/DIV DIVThanks/DIVbr clear=allhrGet your FREE download of MSN Explorer at a href="http://explorer.msn.com"http://explorer.msn.com/abr/p/html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Connection via 800 is dropped by ISP even if the dialer idle-timeout is set
My calls are dropped via the telephone port after a few seconds of pickup. Seems to work only 5% of the time. I have a Cisco 804. -Original Message- From: Mauro Conosciani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 4:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Connection via 800 is dropped by ISP even if the dialer idle-timeout is set Hi everyone I've got an 800 connect via ISDN to my ISP the idle-timeout is set to 6000 but it's dropped anyway after 220 seconds even if traffic is passing through. Any idea (maybe isp doesn't like having a router conect rather than a modem ?) Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On Jul 6, 12:56pm, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: } } I am having this horrible pang of sympathy, then, trying to picture } you making a very reasonable demand of the TAC to escalate the } problem. Let's put it this way. Legal Seafoods, one of the best } chains (admittedly small--Massachusetts and the DC area), is owned by } the Berkowitz family. No relation that I know of, but I get truly } strange looks when making a reservation. When I was in university, there was a physics prof that sometimes substituted for my regular prof, whose last name was "Beer". You can bet that a lot people thought it wasn't real. If nothing else, that taught me that even the weirdest names can be real. }-- End of excerpt from "Howard C. Berkowitz" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On Jul 6, 12:09pm, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: } } To be honest, I hate to see product bashing on this list. I cringe } when I see people starting out with "I have this bug in my production } network." My first reaction is "and what did the TAC say about it?" } } If the response is "I don't have a support contract," my response is } "then you deserve the problems you have." It's one thing for someone } not to buy support for a home lab, but anyone (except possibly } high-level resellers) who doesn't is a fool. I wouldn't be so quick to say that. A lot of companies want/need the best, i.e. Cisco gear, but their budgets are somewhat tight. Cisco support is generally considered to be very good. But, one of the complaints I frequently hear is the cost of it, as well as the equipment. However, the latter problem has much improved. New equipment is considered to be capital expenditure and is much easier to handle then yearly on-going expenses. } Perhaps I'm in a bad mood today about negativism, if that isn't } circular logic. It's far too easy to slam anonymously on this and I don't think so; although, it might be recursive. }-- End of excerpt from "Howard C. Berkowitz" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On Jul 6, 4:09pm, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: } } This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps } yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet } paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can } accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and } cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. } } So my obligatory cisco alternative: } www.zebra.org } } And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and supports it? Why, the secretary, who uses the computer a lot and knows a lot about them, of course. :- Or for those slightly more sophisticated, a computer store tech. who porbably knows next nothing, but runs Linux on his PC at home. }-- End of excerpt from "Howard C. Berkowitz" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco CD on Windows 98
Same Differance: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/home/home.htm --- ccie sin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi , Was trying to install Cisco CD on my windows 98 . But was not successful , on the third try :( Any one here has any idea ? Do the Cisco CD work with windows 98 __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Please send replys to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On Jul 6, 4:37pm, "Mask Of Zorro" wrote: } From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] } To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] } Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers } Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 21:34:15 -0500 } } This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps } yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old } toilet } paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can } accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and } cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. } } So my obligatory cisco alternative: } www.zebra.org } } And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and supports } it? } } Some overworked, under-paid college kid with nothing but time on his hands } to learn all this stuff and thirst for it that leaves him with a list or } certifications as long as my arm... I run into these kids every day in the And, who has probably never ran a production server in his life. Of course, you also get the people that are too cheap to pay for proper support. I ran into a case of this not long ago. A local company that develops high end Oracle applications had their Linux "firewall" hacked and it was being used to attack other sites. They are using @Home. They need their Internet connection in order to Conduct business, and they got cutoff until their system was fixed. When they found out what it would cost for me to rebuild the box properly, they decided not to use me. Instead they used some kid that did it for $30. Gee, isn't that what got them into trouble in the first place? Of course, given what they do, if I were to ask them to do even a really simple thing for $30, they probably wouldn't even give me the time of day. Even some technology oriented companies aren't very bright. Anyways, I'm not desperate enough for business that I will lower my rates to compete with kids that don't know what they are doing. At that rate, I would have to be extremely high volume in order to be able to eat, which means that my quality would suffer big time. } field. My hat's off to 'em! They forge new ground, but sooner or later they Maybe so, but that doesn't mean that they should be building business critical systems. }-- End of excerpt from "Mask Of Zorro" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On Jul 6, 2:30pm, "dre" wrote: } } I disagree, Linux is a bad choice! A Cisco 3640 } router would cost about the same and I'd like to see Gee, I'd sure like to know where you get your routers... } you get a full BGP table with Linux for the same } hardware cost. plus, linux doesn't have CEF or } any of the standard stuff that comes with IOS It definitely wouldn't have the forwarding performance or stability. } The SMB market does what they will, and who } cares anyways? They have *no* market share, } they aren't Internet players, they aren't market } players, they are NOTHING. what they DON'T Cisco disagrees with you. Actually, I do too. Individually, they may not be much; but, together they are a huge market. The enterprise market is starting to get full whereas the SMB market is just really getting into technology. } NEED is another strange weird solution that I would } only put into a lab ; they need something standard, } something that works, something that will scale, } something that will perform up to their needs, I will agree with this. The trick is finding companies that are willing to spend the money to do it right. If they aren't, then move on since they won't be worth the aggravation. On the other hand, if it is a really small company that only has a single server, then having it also act as their Internet gateway isn't necessarily a bad thing. } and something that most $20/hour NT admins } could configure. I'd be scared to have to depend on a router that was configured by a $20/hour NT admin. }-- End of excerpt from "dre" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE RS Going to be Replaced..!!
On Jul 6, 7:38pm, "Rodgers Moore" wrote: } } Witches or not, think about this. Cisco is end of lifing the 2500 series } this year. So it is reasonable to expect that all of the routers in the lab Hmm, I haven't heard this. But, it doesn't surprise me. I thought these things should have been gone some time ago. They are overpriced and underpowered. However, I think they would still be good for home labs. }-- End of excerpt from "Rodgers Moore" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bgp questions
Yuck, really bad question. No frame of reference, no nothin. What is a activate route anyway? Active route? I think the key to answering this question is the question: when would BGP not report an active route? When BGP and the IGP are not in sync, then an active route would not be reported. I say "D" is the most likely suspect, although I would change BGP to EBGP. Rodgers Moore ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:p05001900b6aff192dfe7@[63.216.127.98]... I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Security Specialization
I didn't answer your question about books. My understanding is that there currently are no books that directly correspond to the Security specialist tests - except the CCNA and MCNS- which have Cisco Press and other books out. The information I have is that the other three tests come directly from the Cisco Course materials, but that the tests can be passed with somewhat more difficulty using the product documentation available on the Cisco website, which is also available on the Cisco documentation CD. Good Luck and I'd like to hear how it goes. Arthur Stewart "imran obaidullah" wrote in message ... Hi Friends, For getting CCNP securtiy Specialization, do I need to take all this exams. 1. 640-442 MCNS Managing Cisco Network Security (MCNS) 2. 9E0-571 CSPFA Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Advanced (CSPFA) (see also prerequisite course Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Fundamentals CSPFF) 3. 9E0-558 CSIDS (formerly NRIO) Cisco Secure Intrusion Detection System (CSIDS) (formerly NRIO) 4. 9E0-570 CSVPN Cisco Secure VPN (CSVPN) Any idea about the books I need to buy. Please help me. Regards, imran _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
However it might be a good choice for someone who is building a home lab. It is much cheaper to piece together some computers and throw zebra on it than to buy several routers. I've never used Zebra but it sounds like if you had some existing equipment and wanted to expand on that, couldn't afford to buy another router but had some old PC's it would be the way to go, since speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor in a home lab. Any thoughts? Joey -Original Message- From: dre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 10:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers I disagree, Linux is a bad choice! A Cisco 3640 router would cost about the same and I'd like to see you get a full BGP table with Linux for the same hardware cost. plus, linux doesn't have CEF or any of the standard stuff that comes with IOS (or JunOS for that matter). The SMB market does what they will, and who cares anyways? They have *no* market share, they aren't Internet players, they aren't market players, they are NOTHING. what they DON'T NEED is another strange weird solution that I would only put into a lab ; they need something standard, something that works, something that will scale, something that will perform up to their needs, and something that most $20/hour NT admins could configure. I am all for (ok not for Linux, but for FreeBSD maybe) an open source OS for research or inside a lab where others are familiar with it. But suggesting Linux routers for a SMB (or Enterprise, or Service Provider) in a production, real environment is insane. Don't get me wrong, I like Zebra, it's a good tool. But I would never run it if my mom and pop needed a "router" solution for their new cybercafe. The "correct" solution for SMB is a 1600 or 1700 series router. For what you say "most" SMB's a 1605-R (Single WAN, Dual Ethernet) and two Catalyst 1900 switches would be more than sufficient and would cost less in time/effort alone for the initial setup. Choose one person out the 165,000 CCNA certified people, and I'm sure at least 90% of them could configure this environment for 802.1Q, HSRP, remote management, NAT, Firewall (Secure Integrated Software built-in to the router), or VPN (IPSEC, L2TP, PPTP/MPPE). That's what they are trained to do. Show me a Linux certification or training program that discusses T1 cards or Zebra installation/configuration. And then give me some numbers... Yeah I thought so. -dre "anthony kim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. So my obligatory cisco alternative: www.zebra.org _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work
Hi Ahmed, I do not have the command show port channel on the 1912 Switch. Do you know another way of checking this out? Regards, C1912#show port ? blockForwarding of unknown unicast/multicast addresses monitor Port monitoring system System port configuration Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Ahmed Aden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:50 PM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: Lachisho; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yonkerbonk; Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work Just in case, do a 'show port channel' to verify that it did not create a fast etherchannel. If it didn't create a channel, you should see a message like: 'No ports channelling' Ahmed Aden - 703.798.7158 Network Engineer Resource Networks On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Pierre-Alex wrote: Hi Yonkerbonk, As you requested, I did a show interface on the ports that are used on both switches. Regards, - on THE 1912-- sh int f 0/26 FastEthernet 0/26 is Enabled Hardware is Built-in 100Base-TX Address is 0050.50E2.42DA MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbits Port monitoring: Disabled Unknown unicast flooding: Enabled Unregistered multicast flooding: Enabled Description: Duplex/Flow Control setting: Auto-negotiate Auto-negotiation status: Full duplex Enhanced Congestion Control: Disabled --More-- Receive Statistics Transmit Statistics - --- -- Total good frames 45739 Total frames 8243 Total octets 4758190 Total octets 935475 Broadcast/multicast frames 45687 Broadcast/multicast frames 8206 Broadcast/multicast octets4752684 Broadcast/multicast octets 930237 Good frames forwarded 27228 Deferrals 0 Frames filtered 18511 Single collisions 0 Runt frames 0 Multiple collisions 0 No buffer discards 0 Excessive collisions 0 Queue full discards 0 Errors:Errors: FCS errors0Late collisions 0 Alignment errors 0Excessive deferrals 0 Giant frames 0Jabber errors 0 Address violations0Other transmit errors 0 C1912#sh int f 0/27 FastEthernet 0/27 is Enabled Hardware is Built-in 100Base-TX Address is 0050.50E2.42DB MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbits Port monitoring: Disabled Unknown unicast flooding: Enabled Unregistered multicast flooding: Enabled Description: Duplex/Flow Control setting: Auto-negotiate Auto-negotiation status: Full duplex Enhanced Congestion Control: Disabled --More-- Receive Statistics Transmit Statistics - --- -- Total good frames4788 Total frames 28073 Total octets 366300 Total octets 2553093 Broadcast/multicast frames 4788 Broadcast/multicast frames 28064 Broadcast/multicast octets 366300 Broadcast/multicast octets 2552388 Good frames forwarded4788 Deferrals 0 Frames filtered 0 Single collisions 0 Runt frames 0 Multiple collisions 0 No buffer discards 0 Excessive collisions 0 Queue full discards 0 Errors:Errors: FCS errors0Late collisions 0 Alignment errors 0Excessive deferrals 0 Giant frames 0Jabber errors 0 Address violations0Other transmit errors 0 C1912# ON THE 2924XL sh int f 0/1 FastEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0050.3ef0.3581 (bia 0050.3ef0.3581) MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive not set Duplex setting unknown, Unknown Speed, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:31, output 00:00:01, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 1 packets/sec 30444 packets input, 5042703 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 20759 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 0 watchdog, 8294 multicast 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 100788 packets output, 3850388 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 1 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work
Hi Ahmed, I do not have the command show port channel on the 1912 Switch. Do you know another way of checking this out? Regards, C1912#show port ? blockForwarding of unknown unicast/multicast addresses monitor Port monitoring system System port configuration Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Ahmed Aden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 9:50 PM To: Pierre-Alex Cc: Lachisho; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Yonkerbonk; Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work Just in case, do a 'show port channel' to verify that it did not create a fast etherchannel. If it didn't create a channel, you should see a message like: 'No ports channelling' Ahmed Aden - 703.798.7158 Network Engineer Resource Networks On Tue, 13 Feb 2001, Pierre-Alex wrote: Hi Yonkerbonk, As you requested, I did a show interface on the ports that are used on both switches. Regards, - on THE 1912-- sh int f 0/26 FastEthernet 0/26 is Enabled Hardware is Built-in 100Base-TX Address is 0050.50E2.42DA MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbits Port monitoring: Disabled Unknown unicast flooding: Enabled Unregistered multicast flooding: Enabled Description: Duplex/Flow Control setting: Auto-negotiate Auto-negotiation status: Full duplex Enhanced Congestion Control: Disabled --More-- Receive Statistics Transmit Statistics - --- -- Total good frames 45739 Total frames 8243 Total octets 4758190 Total octets 935475 Broadcast/multicast frames 45687 Broadcast/multicast frames 8206 Broadcast/multicast octets4752684 Broadcast/multicast octets 930237 Good frames forwarded 27228 Deferrals 0 Frames filtered 18511 Single collisions 0 Runt frames 0 Multiple collisions 0 No buffer discards 0 Excessive collisions 0 Queue full discards 0 Errors:Errors: FCS errors0Late collisions 0 Alignment errors 0Excessive deferrals 0 Giant frames 0Jabber errors 0 Address violations0Other transmit errors 0 C1912#sh int f 0/27 FastEthernet 0/27 is Enabled Hardware is Built-in 100Base-TX Address is 0050.50E2.42DB MTU 1500 bytes, BW 10 Kbits Port monitoring: Disabled Unknown unicast flooding: Enabled Unregistered multicast flooding: Enabled Description: Duplex/Flow Control setting: Auto-negotiate Auto-negotiation status: Full duplex Enhanced Congestion Control: Disabled --More-- Receive Statistics Transmit Statistics - --- -- Total good frames4788 Total frames 28073 Total octets 366300 Total octets 2553093 Broadcast/multicast frames 4788 Broadcast/multicast frames 28064 Broadcast/multicast octets 366300 Broadcast/multicast octets 2552388 Good frames forwarded4788 Deferrals 0 Frames filtered 0 Single collisions 0 Runt frames 0 Multiple collisions 0 No buffer discards 0 Excessive collisions 0 Queue full discards 0 Errors:Errors: FCS errors0Late collisions 0 Alignment errors 0Excessive deferrals 0 Giant frames 0Jabber errors 0 Address violations0Other transmit errors 0 C1912# ON THE 2924XL sh int f 0/1 FastEthernet0/1 is up, line protocol is up Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0050.3ef0.3581 (bia 0050.3ef0.3581) MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 1000 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255 Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set, keepalive not set Duplex setting unknown, Unknown Speed, 100BaseTX/FX ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00 Last input 00:00:31, output 00:00:01, output hang never Last clearing of "show interface" counters never Queueing strategy: fifo Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops 5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec 5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 1 packets/sec 30444 packets input, 5042703 bytes, 0 no buffer Received 20759 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort 0 watchdog, 8294 multicast 0 input packets with dribble condition detected 100788 packets output, 3850388 bytes, 0 underruns 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 1 deferred 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work.
Hi Leigh Anne and others: Leigh Anne, I hope you did not loose sleep over this problem At 8:30 PM after a full day on this problem I went to sleep and crashed So here we again: You discovered correctly that PORT A is connected to f0/20 and PORT B to f 0/21 ALL those ports are part of VLAN 1 (see output bellow) And all the ports are in fowarding mode and the lights on the switch are glowing GREEN! (see below the span tree) Someone suggested the presence of an etherchannel configured by default. I will look into this and will let you know Pierre-Alex Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 73253, received 5 Interface Fa0/21 (port 23) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 23, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 73251, received 3 --More-- VLAN Name StatusPorts - --- 1default activeFa0/2, Fa0/3, Fa0/4, Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7, Fa0/10, Fa0/11, Fa0/12, Fa0/13, Fa0/14, Fa0/15, Fa0/17, Fa0/18, Fa0/19, Fa0/21, Fa0/22, Fa0/23 2VLAN_A activeFa0/9, Fa0/16, Fa0/24 3VLAN_B activeFa0/1, Fa0/8 ___ Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 --More-- Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.50E2.42C0 Designated port is 27, path cost 10 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:29 AM To: Pierre-Alex; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work. Okay, here's the jist of things. The Catalyst 2924XL is the root bridge: C2924XL#sh span Spanning tree 1 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree protocol Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15 We are the root of the spanning tree Port 0/26 on the Catalyst 1912 is identifying "Port 22" as the "designated port": Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Port 22 is, port 0/20 on the Catalyst 2924XL switch: Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 46897, received 5 We can deduce that FastEthernet 0/26 on the 1912 switch is directly connected to FastEthernet 0/20 on the 2924XL switch. Note that FastEthernet 0/26 on the Catalyst 1912 is identified as the root port as seen below: C1912#sh span VLAN1 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree Protocol Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0050.50E2.42C0 Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15 Current root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Root port is FastEthernet 0/26, cost of root path is 10 Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set Topology changes 5, last topology change occured 0d02h42m54s ago Times: hold 1, topology change 8960 hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15 Timers: hello 2, topology change 35, notification 2 So what we have is a LAN segment connection where one end of the connection is identified as the root port while the other is identified as the root port for the non-root-bridge Catalyst 1912 switch. Everything
Fw: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones!
Received this today from my inside sales manager. Though you "might" consider blowing your own horn - it is still cool. Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Will Cox" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Recipient list suppressed Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:15 AM Subject: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones! Enjoy the read!! Yesterday, at approximately 4:09 PM Central, the first phone call from space was made. Astronaut Marsha Ivin, using a Cisco IP SoftPhone on the Space Shuttle Atlantis, made the first and second telephone calls EVER from space. NASA has had CallManager software in a development lab since prior to the Selsius acquisition by Cisco. The Selsius, and now second-generation Cisco phones, have been unusually tolerant to the satellite delay between Mission Control in Houston and the Shuttle. Brett Parrish, lead NASA engineer on this project, holds our CallManager software in very high regard, especially since finding it works over satellite delay without modification between our hardware-based phones (tested to up to 1.2 seconds of delay). Brett has stated that it is very unusual for an application to work out of the box with this type of delay. Since certification for flight is an extremely long and, at times, extremely political process, NASA decided to use SoftPhone for the first trial. The main reason for this is that the laptop PCs used by NASA astronauts have already been certified, and getting a software process in flight is much easier than launching hardware. Extensive testing was performed at NASA using custom-built equipment to replicate the delays and LOS (Loss Of Signal) conditions common with the Space Shuttle. Minor modifications were made to CallManager (inclusion of a service parameter) and to SoftPhone (change in the order of events for call acceptance) by Cisco development to address TAPI issues with delay, and SoftPhone was approved for a trial flight. Unfortunately, this was not an official goal of the Space Shuttle Atlantis, which simply meant testing was not scheduled, and not guaranteed. Despite the lack of official stature for this test, optimism that SoftPhone would be tested was very high as the Astronauts had seen the application and were demanding that it fly with the Shuttle. Imagine being out in space with no way to call home! Imagine being IN space and being able to make a normal phone call anywhere! Despite all the technological advances, separation is very apparent when out in space. Never has an Astronaut been able to pick up a phone and place a call. At approximately 4:00PM Central the opportunity to make a call using the Cisco IP SoftPhone became available. Marsha Ivin, with a brief break in official tasks, asked Space Command if there was time to try the IP SoftPhone. The Flight Commander gave the go-ahead and the test was on!. Marsha booted up the SoftPhone and at approximately 4:09PM made a call to the Flight Director. The call went from her SoftPhone software through a VG-200 gateway, over an FXO port, through a PBX to the phone on the Flight Director s desk. They held a long and animated conversation (though what was actually discussed is unknown) and at the end Marsha was granted permission to call one of the 7960 phones in the POC (Payload Operations Center). She made the call and it was answered by Brett Parrish. Marsha asked So how do you like getting the second ever call from space? . After speaking with Brett, Steve Schadelbauer of NASA was put on the line and he spoke with Marsha. The conversations with Marsha lasted for several minutes. Both Brett and Steve commented at how clear the conversation was much better than the audio quality found on the radio conversations with the Shuttle. It was amazing at how much of a non-event this was. History in the making but no scrambling, no trouble-shooting. IT JUST WORKS !!! Most of the credit goes to Brett and Steve for their tireless testing and replication of the Shuttle s environment. On the other hand, this is truly an illustration of how Cisco s IP Telephony makes geographic location irrelevant to audio communications. Anywhere, and that means ANYWHERE, you have IP connectivity you have a COMMUNICATIONS network, which includes telephony. The network works, no excuses! This is a tribute to many things. Brett and Steve put our software and hardware through the ringer at NASA subjecting it to delay, loss of signal, and bit error rates well above what would be found even between Mission Control and the Shuttle. As a result, this historic moment was a non event. Also as a result, future applications are so real that only official testing and approval stand in the way. We have successfully tested 7960 phones in the Space Station and in the Shuttle and they work better than the SoftPhone. It will be a while before we see them as mission approval is a long, and yes
VLAN routing
Hi all, What is the best way to prevent a router on a stick from routing between VLANs, I have to route the VLANs traffic only to the Internet while keeping each VLAN intact and isolated for security reason. Thanks. Mo __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
--- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6, I wouldn't be so quick to say that. A lot of companies want/need the best, i.e. Cisco gear, but their budgets are somewhat tight. Cisco support is generally considered to be very good. But, one of the complaints I frequently hear is the cost of it, as well as the equipment. However, the latter problem has much improved. New equipment is considered to be capital expenditure and is much easier to handle then yearly on-going expenses. This is obviously an opinionated subject but, in mine, the reason Cisco equipment is relatively expensive is not necessarily because of it's performance. The strongest argument for Cisco kit in any bid I've seen is the level of support (i.e. the TAC). There are plently of other vendors who have equivalent products that are widely regarded as faster, more stable and cheaper than Cisco kit but when the chips (and your network) are down, try getting someone at Lucent/Juniper/Foundry to pick up your case within a few minutes and be on the phone to you and connected to your equipment to troubleshoot until that problem is fixed. In short, if you have Cisco kit, get a contract! It's worth every penny. --- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 6, 12:09pm, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: } } To be honest, I hate to see product bashing on this list. I cringe } when I see people starting out with "I have this bug in my production } network." My first reaction is "and what did the TAC say about it?" } } If the response is "I don't have a support contract," my response is } "then you deserve the problems you have." It's one thing for someone } not to buy support for a home lab, but anyone (except possibly } high-level resellers) who doesn't is a fool. I wouldn't be so quick to say that. A lot of companies want/need the best, i.e. Cisco gear, but their budgets are somewhat tight. Cisco support is generally considered to be very good. But, one of the complaints I frequently hear is the cost of it, as well as the equipment. However, the latter problem has much improved. New equipment is considered to be capital expenditure and is much easier to handle then yearly on-going expenses. } Perhaps I'm in a bad mood today about negativism, if that isn't } circular logic. It's far too easy to slam anonymously on this and I don't think so; although, it might be recursive. }-- End of excerpt from "Howard C. Berkowitz" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VLAN routing
You could apply an access-list that only allows your internet traffic to pass, and denies everything else. Router(config)#access-list 101 permit tcp any any eq www Router(config)#interface xxx Router(config-if)#access-group 101 out Hth, Ole Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.CiscoKing.com NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job -Original Message- From: Moiz Badr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VLAN routing Hi all, What is the best way to prevent a router on a stick from routing between VLANs, I have to route the VLANs traffic only to the Internet while keeping each VLAN intact and isolated for security reason. Thanks. Mo __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX questions
Greetings all, Would like to know if its possible to allow certain users to issue certain commends on a pix box. I use SSH to access the box, and some users only require read access. Is this even possible with pix? I checked the documentation with no luck. Running version 5.3 Thanks, Nabil _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PPP multilink over 2 serial interface
I have been having some problems with Multilink PPP recently. We have used Virtual-Template but have found that you can only have 1 Virtual-Template per Router (7507 in this case). Karl -Original Message- From: Erick B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:28 AM To: West, Karl; 'Kim Quang Vo'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PPP multilink over 2 serial interface You can use the interface multilink feature to tie serial interfaces together into one circuit. This is fairly recent feature, mid 12.xT somewhere abouts. multilink-group does not work on DDR interfaces. Look into multilink virtual-template to do serial ddr but virtual-template is for inbound calls mainly. int multilink1 ip address .. encaps ppp ppp multi multilink-group 1 multilink max-link # .. other interface commands int s0 encaps ppp ppp multilink multilink-group 1 int s1 encaps ppp ppp multilink multilink-group 1 router# show ppp multi .. displays stats on multilink bundle --- "West, Karl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well If the Chanelized E3 works like our Chanelized T3 here in the US then your answer is yes! 2 serial T1's = 3Mb (ppp Multilinked) Karl -Original Message- From: Kim Quang Vo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PPP multilink over 2 serial interface I have no experience to configure PPP multilink at Cisco 2610 ( 2 serial , 2Mb) to 7206 with E3 Chanelized inteface. (It will get 4 Mb) Is it possible. Rergards, Kim __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
On Jul 7, 4:07am, "Fowler, Robert J." wrote: } } However it might be a good choice for someone who is building a home lab. It } is much cheaper to piece together some computers and throw zebra on it than } to buy several routers. I've never used Zebra but it sounds like if you had } some existing equipment and wanted to expand on that, couldn't afford to buy } another router but had some old PC's it would be the way to go, since } speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor in a home lab. Any thoughts? Although, you may learn something about the protocols, you won't learn anything about real routers. You definitely need to get hands on with real routers. Zebra could be used to simulate a secondary router in a multi-router experiment, but it isn't sufficient by itself. }-- End of excerpt from "Fowler, Robert J." _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLAN routing
Outbound access-lists on each sub-interface, blocking other VLANs and allowing everything else. Michael --- Moiz Badr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, What is the best way to prevent a router on a stick from routing between VLANs, I have to route the VLANs traffic only to the Internet while keeping each VLAN intact and isolated for security reason. Thanks. Mo __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work.
Hi Pierre, You still need to finish setting up trunking on the 2924XL to see if my theory is correct. The two Catalysts on the segment between Port B on the C1912 and Fa0/21 on the 2924XL don't seem to be talking. So Port B shows that it knows who the root bridge is, but it shows itself as the designated bridge since it sees itself as the only switch on that segment and thus the only way to get to the root. One thing I still can't explain is why Port A on the C1912 shows the root cost as being 0. It should be only 0 only if it sees itself as the root, but it doesn't because it shows the proper MAC address. Anyways, give that a shot and let's see where it goes. Michael --- Pierre-Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Leigh Anne and others: Leigh Anne, I hope you did not loose sleep over this problem At 8:30 PM after a full day on this problem I went to sleep and crashed So here we again: You discovered correctly that PORT A is connected to f0/20 and PORT B to f 0/21 ALL those ports are part of VLAN 1 (see output bellow) And all the ports are in fowarding mode and the lights on the switch are glowing GREEN! (see below the span tree) Someone suggested the presence of an etherchannel configured by default. I will look into this and will let you know Pierre-Alex Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 73253, received 5 Interface Fa0/21 (port 23) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 23, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 73251, received 3 --More-- VLAN Name Status Ports - --- 1default active Fa0/2, Fa0/3, Fa0/4, Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7, Fa0/10, Fa0/11, Fa0/12, Fa0/13, Fa0/14, Fa0/15, Fa0/17, Fa0/18, Fa0/19, Fa0/21, Fa0/22, Fa0/23 2VLAN_A active Fa0/9, Fa0/16, Fa0/24 3VLAN_B active Fa0/1, Fa0/8 ___ Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 --More-- Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.50E2.42C0 Designated port is 27, path cost 10 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:29 AM To: Pierre-Alex; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work. Okay, here's the jist of things. The Catalyst 2924XL is the root bridge: C2924XL#sh span Spanning tree 1 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree protocol Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15 We are the root of the spanning tree Port 0/26 on the Catalyst 1912 is identifying "Port 22" as the "designated port": Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Port 22 is, port 0/20 on the Catalyst 2924XL switch: Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 46897, received 5 We can deduce that FastEthernet 0/26 on the 1912 switch is directly connected to FastEthernet 0/20 on the 2924XL switch. Note that FastEthernet
MPLS, Photonic (was Re: BPX going out of style?)
On Jul 3, 3:55am, "Howard C. Berkowitz" wrote: } } Photonic switching, where traffic is rerouted based at the high-speed } stream level rather than the packet or cell level, isn't here in } production, but it is coming rapidly. Photonic switching will } complement, not replace, routing. Please do not get me started on } the buzzword of "optical routing." With the capacity of newer Okay, how about lambda swtiching? :-) Photonic switching and lambda switching are _usually_ the same thing, although the purists insist that in photonic (usually), the information stays optical -- it's never converted to electrical signals inside the relay (note that I'm avoiding the loaded term router or switch). As far as I can tell in all proposals I've seen, these technologies are derivatives of MPLS, with additional information needed, say, to equate a wavelength to a MPLS label, or to use GSMP or LDP to control an optical cross-connect. The Great Lie of even "conventional" MPLS is that it somehow is independent of "routing." To be more specific, MPLS offers some alternatives in the "packet forwarding" part of "routing," but still depends on "path determination." I prefer to think of it as an "overdrive" to routing that only can work after routing protocols or static routing have defined the highway system. In the real world, if that is meaningful in so virtual a space, the actual sequence of events is along the lines: 1. L3 path determination, either dynamic or static, works out the connectivity. 2. Additional mechanisms, which may be no more than additional constraints on path determination, select Label Switched Paths (LSP). LSPs are associated with Forwarding Equivalence Classes (FEC), which are ways to leave your cloud (i.e., interface, output QoS, etc.) Think of these as hop-by-hop specifications of MPLS tunnels through an IP or other cloud that can map labels onto a cloud-specific forwarding lookup mechanism (label between L2/L3 headers, lambda, etc.) 3. Use a label distribution mechanism (LDP, RSVP-TE, CR-LDP) to distribute information to Label Switched Routers (LSR) on how to handle the next hop forwarding for a specific incoming label. Remember that the scope of a label is a single link. There is a relationship between a label and a FEC, but it's not a one to one relationship. Loosely, a FEC is operationally defined by sets of labels. LSRs are stupid; they don't know much about the traffic they carry. Think of ATM switches or LAN switches in a core with true routers at the edges. 4. Use Label Edge Routers (LER) at the ingress and egress to the cloud, to use rules to recognize the FEC to which traffic belongs, and tag the traffic with a label. In practical terms, the LER may have a rule that identifies traffic and puts it on a particular path (i.e., LSP with ingress label). LSRs forward the traffic given them by ingress LERs or other LSRs. Optical routing generally has the same logic, but the optical people tend to reinvent the wheel and the protocols. In my mind, a lambda can be a label, a VPI/VCI can be a label, and a L2/L3 shim can be a label. Sometimes the "difference" between optical and conventional routing comes from marketingdroids of the routing world, while other differences come from developers who began working with SONET, ATM, and other telco-oriented techniques and really don't understand Internet routing. Yes, there are different constraints to consider in an optical cloud than in a LAN cloud. But they are still constraints, and generic constraint-based routing algorithms can cope with them. Most Cisco (and indeed industry) discussions of MPLS focus, somewhat vaguely, on #4 of the steps below. But not to consider the role of routing mechanisms in LSP setup is to wave one's hands and say "here a miracle happens." _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bgp questions
They really need to start wording these questions better!! -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 3:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bgp questions I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VLAN routing
I'm no routing/VLAN genius, but: If you have a simple environment, just use static routes as necessary. For example, a default route to the Internet as the only route and you will have no routes between VLANs. If you need one or two of them actually routed, just use static routes. If you have a more complex environment, I would suggest using a routing protocol (EIGRP, OSPF) and access lists to deny traffic between VLANs. (This is where someone might have a better suggestion) Tom McNamara, MCSE, CCNA Account Manager, U.S. Datacom [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Moiz Badr Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: VLAN routing Hi all, What is the best way to prevent a router on a stick from routing between VLANs, I have to route the VLANs traffic only to the Internet while keeping each VLAN intact and isolated for security reason. Thanks. Mo __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
This is obviously an opinionated subject but, in mine, the reason Cisco equipment is relatively expensive is not necessarily because of it's performance. The strongest argument for Cisco kit in any bid I've seen is the level of support (i.e. the TAC). There are plently of other vendors who have equivalent products that are widely regarded as faster, more stable and cheaper than Cisco kit but when the chips (and your network) are down, try getting someone at Lucent/Juniper/Foundry to pick up your case within a few minutes and be on the phone to you and connected to your equipment to troubleshoot until that problem is fixed. In short, if you have Cisco kit, get a contract! It's worth every penny. Well, given that I do support for Juniper I'm afraid I have to differ with you. We take very good care of our customers. I'm sure we provide the same level of service, if not higher, than any other vender. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BPX going out of style?
John Nemeth said, On Jul 6, 1:28pm, "Brian Lodwick" wrote: } } I have heard many tales of how ATM will explode soon, will be partenered } perfectly with DSL, and everyone will implement it, but I just haven't seen } it. I like the idea of improving technologies your engineering and support } staff are familiar with (Not counting new technology with old names like } IPv6). I hope this is able to work out, and isn't too far down the road. IPv6 is coming. There are just too many shortcomings in IPv4 that can't be solved using hacks. The biggest being the lack of address space. It really isn't a question of "if" but rather "when". Some of the "killer apps" that have moved IPv6 into high gear include the decision by the third generation wireless people to use V6 as their basic protocol, which, as we speak, is being built into handsets. } Is there any talk of using smaller tags in IP to create big pipes similar to } ATM's VCI's so that you could lower the ip address mask-lookup processor } overhead on backbone IP routers? I think this would be a neat idea. Even You've just described MPLS. } though the CAM table is fast the router must still read the entire address } and mask. Small pipe identifiers could be inserted into the ip header and } extracted at the gateways and lookup would be lowered. Like xtags on VLANS. IP headers are only 20 bytes and aren't much of a problem. The real problem is with compression, encryption, access lists, etc. Check out this URL for a study on what happens when access lists are used: http://www.nwc.com/1004/1004ws2.html }-- End of excerpt from "Brian Lodwick" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
Hi Howard, --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. So my obligatory cisco alternative: www.zebra.org And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and supports it? Good question. I think under 1,000 employees is reasonable for a mid-sized company. Less than 400 is a rough estimate for a small company. These companies tend to already have people taking care of their NT/Novell servers. Typically they already have file servers, print servers, and sometimes a router or two. Maybe an Exchange server, Groupwise, or perhaps they've thrown together a home grown solution with qmail plus mysql plus cucipop. Throw in some switches to hook it all together. Maybe no 802.1d or VLANs in the mix, but still, a sustainable technology environment. I don't think it's too much of a stretch for their in-house staff to maintain Linux or FreeBSD. College grads are already familiar with these free systems, or ought to be. Presumably, in-house staff should already know OSI, TCP/IP, and IPX. Thus, the learning curve isn't too much of a stretch. And routing isn't too difficult, really. Especially in small environments: Anyone reasonably intelligent who knows TCP/IP intimately, can manage routing, or a firewall for that matter. Or learn how to. Anyone reasonably adept with a CLI can learn IOS. (IOS, in fact, is a far more primitive environment than the Unix shell.) I've worked for small companies. The limited resources require sysadmins who can wear several hats and learn quickly. It's just the nature of the beast, nasty, brutish, but for expediency's sake, as variegated as the business needs require. Just my humble opinion, anthony __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: bgp questions
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only situation that bgp cares about IGP's synchronization is when bgp is explicitly configured to announce networks (i.e network x.x.x.x mask x.x.x.x) and it would have to check the igp to see if there is a valid route to that network. This can be overridden by 'no synchronization'. However, the default behavior is that bgp announces active (I'm not sure what activate means) routes (routes which are reachable via an IGP's routing table) to all configured bgp peers irrespective of whether they are an ibgp or ebgp peer. For this reason, I would select A. It's still very poorly worded, assuming 'activate' is not a typo. hope this helps On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Rodgers Moore wrote: Yuck, really bad question. No frame of reference, no nothin. What is a activate route anyway? Active route? I think the key to answering this question is the question: when would BGP not report an active route? When BGP and the IGP are not in sync, then an active route would not be reported. I say "D" is the most likely suspect, although I would change BGP to EBGP. Rodgers Moore ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:p05001900b6aff192dfe7@[63.216.127.98]... I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Finished CCNP!
Finally, after much procrastination all last year, I have finished this darn thing. I took the Switching test last summer, but then put the entire thing on hold because I was tired of all the studying. :-) But then an acquaintance of mine gave me an idea: just schedule the tests and that will force you study for them. He was right, that provided a great motivation. I schedule Remote Access five weeks ago, Routing two weeks ago, and then Support last night. I must say that the Support test is both easy and hard. It was fairly easy in some areas because I do a LOT of troubleshooting at work. however, some of the questions are *very* poorly written. I recall one question where you had to pick the "best" answer, but four of the five answer were correct and two of those were almost identical. Yikes. There were at least four or five questions where I made an educated guess because I couldn't figure out what they were really asking. And, as someone else mentioned before, the final grade is broken down into four categories and I don't remember getting a single question in two of those categories! I also have to sympathize with those of you who don't have anyone around who really cares that you pass your tests. None of my coworkers--including my boss--really care. My wife cares, but she doesn't understand any of it. So, I feel your pain. :-) Now, on to CCDP. I think I'll schedule that bugger in two or three weeks to get it out of the way. And thenon to the big guy... that's spooky. g Regards, John Neiberger, CCNP (P = procrastinator) and CCDA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PCMCIA Flash Card Access Problems
- Original Message - From: "Roger Sohn" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have Cisco 7206VXR router and the unit has 2 slots for PCMCIA Flash Cards. The IOS I'm running is 12.0. I have 3 cards of 16MB, 48MB, and another for 128MB. Here's the problem.. I can do everything with the 16MB card without any problems. But when I try to access the 48MB or the 128MB it gives me an error message of "Open device slot1 failed (Device not ready)". The 48MB and 110MB cards are ATA Flask Disks rather then Flash Cards. dir disk1: instead of dir slot1: and you should be good to go. David C Prall [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://dcp.dcptech.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Modem to Console Port
Is is possible to connect a modem to the console port for remote configuration on the Cisco 1600 series? If so would you please provide me with a sample configuration? Thank you in advance for your assistance. John Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work.
Port 0/27 on the Catalyst 1912 doesn't seem to be sending anything to Port 0/21 on the Catalyst 2924XL. If you look at my message from last night, you'll notice that Fa0/21 hasn't been receiving input for 3 hours. If BPDU's are sent every 2 seconds, there's some sort of communication fault occurring with the port. Since the Catalyst 1912's 0/27 port is set to trunk on, it is likely not communicating with Port 0/21 because port 0/21 hasn't been set to trunk. Try trunking the 2924XL's port and see what happens. In your configuration, port 0/27 on the Catalyst 1912 is the one that Spanning Tree will block. Check its status once you've completed setting up the trunking... -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pierre-Alex Sent: February 14, 2001 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work. Hi Leigh Anne and others: Leigh Anne, I hope you did not loose sleep over this problem At 8:30 PM after a full day on this problem I went to sleep and crashed So here we again: You discovered correctly that PORT A is connected to f0/20 and PORT B to f 0/21 ALL those ports are part of VLAN 1 (see output bellow) And all the ports are in fowarding mode and the lights on the switch are glowing GREEN! (see below the span tree) Someone suggested the presence of an etherchannel configured by default. I will look into this and will let you know Pierre-Alex Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 73253, received 5 Interface Fa0/21 (port 23) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 23, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 73251, received 3 --More-- VLAN Name StatusPorts - --- 1default activeFa0/2, Fa0/3, Fa0/4, Fa0/5, Fa0/6, Fa0/7, Fa0/10, Fa0/11, Fa0/12, Fa0/13, Fa0/14, Fa0/15, Fa0/17, Fa0/18, Fa0/19, Fa0/21, Fa0/22, Fa0/23 2VLAN_A activeFa0/9, Fa0/16, Fa0/24 3VLAN_B activeFa0/1, Fa0/8 ___ Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 --More-- Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.50E2.42C0 Designated port is 27, path cost 10 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:29 AM To: Pierre-Alex; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work. Okay, here's the jist of things. The Catalyst 2924XL is the root bridge: C2924XL#sh span Spanning tree 1 is executing the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree protocol Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15 We are the root of the spanning tree Port 0/26 on the Catalyst 1912 is identifying "Port 22" as the "designated port": Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Port 22 is, port 0/20 on the Catalyst 2924XL switch: Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 46897, received 5 We can deduce that FastEthernet 0/26 on the 1912
RE: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP)
The problem I am trying to solve... I am trying to develop a network access strategy based on the use of a NAP for my organization. I am tasked with preparing a whitepaper to address this. -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP) Based on paliminary research, BGP seems to be the major protocol at the NAP level. Is that true? Yes. What problem are you trying to solve? And if so, why? Furthermore, why is so much attention given to one protocol? I don't really understand this question. Exchange points are completely concerned with interdomain routing. The only standard protocol for interdomain routing is BGP. Is it the only protocol for the job of exchanging routes at the NAP level? Yes/ Finally, will BGP continue to be the protocol of choice as IPv6 develops? Yes, that is one of the purposes for BGP address family extensions. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP) As defined in the industry, a Network Access Point (NAP) is a major connection point in the global Internet. It is like a Point-of-Presence (POP) but it is high bandwidth. Currently there are 5 major NAP in the US, but I need white papers on the construction of these major POPs. Hope that helps! NAP is a historical term for what more frequently is called an exchange point; there are many more than five in the US and indeed an increasing number worldwide. There's normally a panel discussion on "news from the exchanges" at each NANOG meeting (http://www.nanog.org), and there are exchange working group meetings at the RIPE meetings for Europe (http://www.ripe.net) Before even beginning to think about designing an exchange or carrier-grade POP, be very familiar with the NANOG and RIPE meeting presentations and with their mailing list minutes. Cisco has some good references: ISP Essentials Power Session http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/isp/documents/IOSEssentials_Seminar.ziphttp://www.cisco.com/public/cons/isp/documents/IOSEssentials_Seminar.zip BGP Routing Workshop http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/workshops/bgp/http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/workshops/bgp/ I discuss some aspects of exchange points in my BGP tutorial series at http://www.certificationzone.com. This coming weekend, at NANOG in Atlanta, I'll be doing an exterior routing tutorial that will partially discuss exchanges and POPs. Slides should be up by Sunday. The presentations may be webcast, but I'm not sure. Check the NANOG site. The classic exchange point design features a carrier-grade physical facility, racks for the individual providers' routers, and a common layer 2 (sometimes layer 3) fabric to interconnect them. In the original NAPs, the providers often kept the BGP workload down by not having a direct BGP connection to every other provider there, but to one or more route servers -- BGP code running on UNIX boxes that do no forwarding, but build the maps of the exchange point. Today, there is less emphasis on the route servers for primary BGP, but there is still peering to them for statistics gathering. Some exchanges use a distributed switched fabric, so there is not one physical room. Instead, the participating providers are linked by ATM. It's something of an urban legend that the top-level providers do significant traffic exchange at the exchange points. At that level, they are far more likely to have private peerings over direct OC-3 or faster links. Exchange points, however, are useful for medium level providers in a given urban or geographic area. Indeed, there is an ever-growing trend to having metropolitan exchange points among cooperating ISPs in small cities. The traditional exchange is for ISPs only, but the line between hosting centers and exchanges is constantly getting more blurry. Large provider POPs are not necessarily smaller than exchanges, but simply have a different management and operational model. I don't want to be negative, but if someone hasn't been playing in the ISP area for a while, is familiar with the NANOG/RIPE materials, etc., they aren't remotely ready to design a carrier-grade POP or exchange by themselves. Cisco consulting engineers, and I'd assume Juniper as well, can be very helpful when such a project is being considered. -Original Message- From: Peter Van Oene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 1:01 PM To: Hinton Bandele-NBH281 Subject: Re: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP) What exactly do you consider a NAP to be? *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 2/9/2001 at 9:14 AM Hinton Bandele-NBH281 wrote: I am setting up a NAP using 3600's and need a site or location for obtaining whitepapers on both NAP's and BGP. I am
Re: Finished CCNP!
Congrats Regards, Manny Colon Computer Services Information Builders Inc. John Neiberger wrote: Finally, after much procrastination all last year, I have finished this darn thing. I took the Switching test last summer, but then put the entire thing on hold because I was tired of all the studying. :-) But then an acquaintance of mine gave me an idea: just schedule the tests and that will force you study for them. He was right, that provided a great motivation. I schedule Remote Access five weeks ago, Routing two weeks ago, and then Support last night. I must say that the Support test is both easy and hard. It was fairly easy in some areas because I do a LOT of troubleshooting at work. however, some of the questions are *very* poorly written. I recall one question where you had to pick the "best" answer, but four of the five answer were correct and two of those were almost identical. Yikes. There were at least four or five questions where I made an educated guess because I couldn't figure out what they were really asking. And, as someone else mentioned before, the final grade is broken down into four categories and I don't remember getting a single question in two of those categories! I also have to sympathize with those of you who don't have anyone around who really cares that you pass your tests. None of my coworkers--including my boss--really care. My wife cares, but she doesn't understand any of it. So, I feel your pain. :-) Now, on to CCDP. I think I'll schedule that bugger in two or three weeks to get it out of the way. And thenon to the big guy... that's spooky. g Regards, John Neiberger, CCNP (P = procrastinator) and CCDA _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
You seem tense. If you search the web, you will find many companies already running linux or freebsd and have no problems with full BGP views. It really isn't too difficult maintaining T1s either. CCN? plus linux isn't mutually exclusive so I don't see the hubbub. The "correct" solution on a cisco list is what cisco says is the correct solution. That I'll grant you. We are merely extending our horizons and discussing possibilities. CCN?s on this list (myself included) need not feel threatened. And finally, I disagree with regard to cost. You can't get a 3640 with 128MB DRAM for under a thousand. Ok, *maybe* you can snag a used one cheap, perhaps cut a deal somewheres, but I did not intend this to be a MY OS is better than IOS war. Let's not go there. --- dre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree, Linux is a bad choice! A Cisco 3640 router would cost about the same and I'd like to see you get a full BGP table with Linux for the same hardware cost. plus, linux doesn't have CEF or any of the standard stuff that comes with IOS (or JunOS for that matter). The SMB market does what they will, and who cares anyways? They have *no* market share, they aren't Internet players, they aren't market players, they are NOTHING. what they DON'T NEED is another strange weird solution that I would only put into a lab ; they need something standard, something that works, something that will scale, something that will perform up to their needs, and something that most $20/hour NT admins could configure. I am all for (ok not for Linux, but for FreeBSD maybe) an open source OS for research or inside a lab where others are familiar with it. But suggesting Linux routers for a SMB (or Enterprise, or Service Provider) in a production, real environment is insane. Don't get me wrong, I like Zebra, it's a good tool. But I would never run it if my mom and pop needed a "router" solution for their new cybercafe. The "correct" solution for SMB is a 1600 or 1700 series router. For what you say "most" SMB's a 1605-R (Single WAN, Dual Ethernet) and two Catalyst 1900 switches would be more than sufficient and would cost less in time/effort alone for the initial setup. Choose one person out the 165,000 CCNA certified people, and I'm sure at least 90% of them could configure this environment for 802.1Q, HSRP, remote management, NAT, Firewall (Secure Integrated Software built-in to the router), or VPN (IPSEC, L2TP, PPTP/MPPE). That's what they are trained to do. Show me a Linux certification or training program that discusses T1 cards or Zebra installation/configuration. And then give me some numbers... Yeah I thought so. -dre "anthony kim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. So my obligatory cisco alternative: www.zebra.org On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:00:36PM -0600, William E. Gragido wrote: There ServerIronXL Layer 4-7 switches are pretty cool boxes as well. Foundry is also pretty nice in that their command line interface is awfully reminiscent of Cisco's. The transition from one to the other should not be too difficult. -Original Message- From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:41 PM To: 'Brant Stevens'; 'William E. Gragido'; 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers Foundry prices are killer and the performance is top notch. We're planning a roll out with 40 OC-12 POS. Guess who our preferred provider is? None other than foundry. -ck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brant Stevens Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:28 PM To: William E. Gragido; 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers Not to mention Foundry... Brant I. Stevens Internetwork Solutions Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor New York, NY. 10017 646-562-6540 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of William E. Gragido Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 2:47 PM To: 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers Riding on the coat tails of Howard's comments, there are also other players out there like Lucent(home of the Nexibit N64000 Terabit Switch Router and the Ascend product lines), Avici, Charlette's Web, Nortel etc., that offer carrier grade solutions. -Original Message- From:
BSCN
I just purchased the CCNP Routing Study Guide published by Sybex. Is the BSCN Cisco Press book better? I also have Routing TCP/IP Volume one. What should I use to study for the exam. -- Regards, Manny Colon Computer Services Information Builders Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Modem to Console Port
It is possible. There is actually no configuration on the router. You will need to set the modem to talk at 9600, 8, N, 1 with no local echo. You also need to set the modem to auto answer. Your modem should have documentation with the proper "AT" commands that you will need to issue. Save this configuration to the modems NVRAM and plug it into the router. Chris Lemagie... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Modem to Console Port Is is possible to connect a modem to the console port for remote configuration on the Cisco 1600 series? If so would you please provide me with a sample configuration? Thank you in advance for your assistance. John Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
"anthony kim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... And finally, I disagree with regard to cost. You can't get a 3640 with 128MB DRAM for under a thousand. Ok, *maybe* you can snag a used one cheap, perhaps cut a deal somewheres, but I did not intend this to be a MY OS is better than IOS war. Let's not go there. You can get Cisco equipment through VAR's or resellers on a leased line of credit. This may be cheaper than purchasing PC hardware (especially PC-related Networking or Telecommunications hardware) at retail costs. This is the standard method that most small-to-medium businesses and almost all enterprise-sized businesses finance their options. I don't have a problem with discussing other possibilities. I have a problem with Linux zealots recommending products to businesses, which sounds like the camp that you are from. -dre _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VTY LINES NON EXISTENT!!!!
Yes, somebody did already show that setting a user mode password on a Catalyst 1900 switch could be done--it was me. (-: I'm going to have to sit down and learn more about TACACS I guess. I thought that TACACS+ would only come into play when the router (or switch) prompted the end user for a password. Since the 1900's don't prompt for a "user mode" password, I would have thought TACACS+ (or Radius) wouldn't be an option. As for the way I did it -- I created a user mode password prompt using a single Cisco IOS command. -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: John Nemeth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 14, 2001 6:00 AM To: Leigh Anne Chisholm; Rik Guyler; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: VTY LINES NON EXISTENT On Jul 6, 7:16am, "Leigh Anne Chisholm" wrote: } } You'll notice that when you access your Catalyst switch via the console } port, that without issuing any sort of password, you're immediately able to } access several commands on the switch -- you've immediately got access to } "user mode". In some organizations, this can present a security risk. Can Yeah, I noticed this and found it rather surprising, not to mention disturbing. Especially, when you consider that the standard software doesn't have this problem (of course, it doesn't have the "enable" mode distinction, or a CLI for that matter). } you set a "user-mode" password for the Catalyst 1900 series switch? If so, } how? Somebody has already shown that it can be done. Digging through a switch, the only thing that comes to mind is TACACS? However, setting up TACACS just for a couple of switches seems like a big waste. }-- End of excerpt from "Leigh Anne Chisholm" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bgp questions
Thanks for the clarification. So with 'no synchronization' set, every peer who RECEIVES that route doesn't have to verify if there is an igp route to it, but the originator still checks before advertising it? On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Brian Dennis wrote: Sychonization only comes into play when a BGP route is learned from an iBGP peer. If you are the origniator of the route you must have an IGP route. Disabling synchonization won't affect the originator of the route. Brian Dennis CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ahmed Aden Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:36 AM To: Rodgers Moore Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bgp questions Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only situation that bgp cares about IGP's synchronization is when bgp is explicitly configured to announce networks (i.e network x.x.x.x mask x.x.x.x) and it would have to check the igp to see if there is a valid route to that network. This can be overridden by 'no synchronization'. However, the default behavior is that bgp announces active (I'm not sure what activate means) routes (routes which are reachable via an IGP's routing table) to all configured bgp peers irrespective of whether they are an ibgp or ebgp peer. For this reason, I would select A. It's still very poorly worded, assuming 'activate' is not a typo. hope this helps On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Rodgers Moore wrote: Yuck, really bad question. No frame of reference, no nothin. What is a activate route anyway? Active route? I think the key to answering this question is the question: when would BGP not report an active route? When BGP and the IGP are not in sync, then an active route would not be reported. I say "D" is the most likely suspect, although I would change BGP to EBGP. Rodgers Moore ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:p05001900b6aff192dfe7@[63.216.127.98]... I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Converting from IGRP to EIGRP
I posted this a few weeks ago and only got a few responses so I thought that I would try again. What would be the best way to migrate from IGRP to EIGRP? Everything is in the same AS. Should I just add the EIGRP statements to all of the routers and let EIRE do the redistribution automatically? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bgp questions
Sychonization only comes into play when a BGP route is learned from an iBGP peer. If you are the origniator of the route you must have an IGP route. Disabling synchonization won't affect the originator of the route. Brian Dennis CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ahmed Aden Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:36 AM To: Rodgers Moore Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bgp questions Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only situation that bgp cares about IGP's synchronization is when bgp is explicitly configured to announce networks (i.e network x.x.x.x mask x.x.x.x) and it would have to check the igp to see if there is a valid route to that network. This can be overridden by 'no synchronization'. However, the default behavior is that bgp announces active (I'm not sure what activate means) routes (routes which are reachable via an IGP's routing table) to all configured bgp peers irrespective of whether they are an ibgp or ebgp peer. For this reason, I would select A. It's still very poorly worded, assuming 'activate' is not a typo. hope this helps On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Rodgers Moore wrote: Yuck, really bad question. No frame of reference, no nothin. What is a activate route anyway? Active route? I think the key to answering this question is the question: when would BGP not report an active route? When BGP and the IGP are not in sync, then an active route would not be reported. I say "D" is the most likely suspect, although I would change BGP to EBGP. Rodgers Moore ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:p05001900b6aff192dfe7@[63.216.127.98]... I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
backup subinterface on another subinterface
Hi group, I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2 subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails. I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a subinterface on the backup command, only the physical interface. So backup interface s0 is possible. Why is that and how can I do this Thanks in advance Adam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Fw: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones!
This is COOL!!! The network works.No excuses. Cheers, Arthur From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "cisco" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Fw: Is this COOL or what? Cisco Space Phones! Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:39:27 -0500 Received this today from my inside sales manager. Though you "might" consider blowing your own horn - it is still cool. Kevin Wigle _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On May 31, 7:43pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always } can } accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and } cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. } } So my obligatory cisco alternative: } www.zebra.org } } And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and } supports it? } } } Good question. } } I think under 1,000 employees is reasonable for a mid-sized company. } Less than 400 is a rough estimate for a small company. These Your numbers are a little off. Cisco defines them as: SOHO -- Small Office / Home Office: 1-20 users Small Business: 20-100 users Medium Business: 100-500 users I would tend to go along with these numbers. } companies tend to already have people taking care of their NT/Novell Medium businesses certainly. However, small businesses may or may not. Many of them will contract out the higher end stuff. } I don't think it's too much of a stretch for their in-house staff to } maintain Linux or FreeBSD. College grads are already familiar with } these free systems, or ought to be. Presumably, in-house staff should There's a big difference between playing with them at home and knowing how to handle production systems. Also, unless they went to vocational or technical schools, they won't have any operations training. } already know OSI, TCP/IP, and IPX. Thus, the learning curve isn't too That's a big presumption. } And routing isn't too difficult, really. Especially in small } environments: Anyone reasonably intelligent who knows TCP/IP } intimately, can manage routing, or a firewall for that matter. Or How many people know TCP/IP intimately? Probably fewer then you think. Firewalls are specialty items that still require knowledgable people. Unless you like either having people break into your network or having your network break. } I've worked for small companies. The limited resources require } sysadmins who can wear several hats and learn quickly. It's just the } nature of the beast, nasty, brutish, but for expediency's sake, as } variegated as the business needs require. That's true, but they don't necessarily have to know everything. Some of the more complex stuff could be farmed out. }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim On May 31, 7:43pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always } can } accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and } cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. } } So my obligatory cisco alternative: } www.zebra.org } } And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and } supports it? } } } Good question. } } I think under 1,000 employees is reasonable for a mid-sized company. } Less than 400 is a rough estimate for a small company. These Your numbers are a little off. Cisco defines them as: SOHO -- Small Office / Home Office: 1-20 users Small Business: 20-100 users Medium Business: 100-500 users I would tend to go along with these numbers. } companies tend to already have people taking care of their NT/Novell Medium businesses certainly. However, small businesses may or may not. Many of them will contract out the higher end stuff. } I don't think it's too much of a stretch for their in-house staff to } maintain Linux or FreeBSD. College grads are already familiar with } these free systems, or ought to be. Presumably, in-house staff should There's a big difference between playing with them at home and knowing how to handle production systems. Also, unless they went to vocational or technical schools, they won't have any operations training. } already know OSI, TCP/IP, and IPX. Thus, the learning curve isn't too That's a big presumption. } And routing isn't too difficult, really. Especially in small } environments: Anyone reasonably intelligent who knows TCP/IP } intimately, can manage routing, or a firewall for that matter. Or How many people know TCP/IP intimately? Probably fewer then you think. Firewalls are specialty items that still require knowledgable people. Unless you like either having people break into your network or having your network break. } I've worked for small companies. The limited resources require } sysadmins who can wear several hats and learn quickly. It's just the } nature of the beast, nasty, brutish, but for expediency's sake, as } variegated as the business needs require. That's true, but they don't necessarily have to know everything. Some of the more complex stuff could be farmed out. }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL
RE: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP)
The problem I am trying to solve... I am trying to develop a network access strategy based on the use of a NAP for my organization. I am tasked with preparing a whitepaper to address this. NAPs, or more correctly exchange points, are intended for itercarrier operation. Enterprises are usually not allowed to connect to them. So, if your organization is an enterprise, it's not a viable strategy. Large hosting centers may be the functional equivalent of exchanges, but they have an assortment of business models for who owns and operates the servers. Metropolitan area exchange points may be more relaxed in their rules. -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP) Based on paliminary research, BGP seems to be the major protocol at the NAP level. Is that true? Yes. What problem are you trying to solve? And if so, why? Furthermore, why is so much attention given to one protocol? I don't really understand this question. Exchange points are completely concerned with interdomain routing. The only standard protocol for interdomain routing is BGP. Is it the only protocol for the job of exchanging routes at the NAP level? Yes/ Finally, will BGP continue to be the protocol of choice as IPv6 develops? Yes, that is one of the purposes for BGP address family extensions. Thanks! -Original Message- From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2001 4:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Networking White Papers (NAP and BGP) As defined in the industry, a Network Access Point (NAP) is a major connection point in the global Internet. It is like a Point-of-Presence (POP) but it is high bandwidth. Currently there are 5 major NAP in the US, but I need white papers on the construction of these major POPs. Hope that helps! NAP is a historical term for what more frequently is called an exchange point; there are many more than five in the US and indeed an increasing number worldwide. There's normally a panel discussion on "news from the exchanges" at each NANOG meeting (http://www.nanog.org), and there are exchange working group meetings at the RIPE meetings for Europe (http://www.ripe.net) Before even beginning to think about designing an exchange or carrier-grade POP, be very familiar with the NANOG and RIPE meeting presentations and with their mailing list minutes. Cisco has some good references: ISP Essentials Power Session http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/isp/documents/IOSEssentials_Seminar.ziphttp://www.cisco.com/public/cons/isp/documents/IOSEssentials_Seminar.zip BGP Routing Workshop http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/workshops/bgp/http://www.cisco.com/public/cons/workshops/bgp/ I discuss some aspects of exchange points in my BGP tutorial series at http://www.certificationzone.com. This coming weekend, at NANOG in Atlanta, I'll be doing an exterior routing tutorial that will partially discuss exchanges and POPs. Slides should be up by Sunday. The presentations may be webcast, but I'm not sure. Check the NANOG site. The classic exchange point design features a carrier-grade physical facility, racks for the individual providers' routers, and a common layer 2 (sometimes layer 3) fabric to interconnect them. In the original NAPs, the providers often kept the BGP workload down by not having a direct BGP connection to every other provider there, but to one or more route servers -- BGP code running on UNIX boxes that do no forwarding, but build the maps of the exchange point. Today, there is less emphasis on the route servers for primary BGP, but there is still peering to them for statistics gathering. Some exchanges use a distributed switched fabric, so there is not one physical room. Instead, the participating providers are linked by ATM. It's something of an urban legend that the top-level providers do significant traffic exchange at the exchange points. At that level, they are far more likely to have private peerings over direct OC-3 or faster links. Exchange points, however, are useful for medium level providers in a given urban or geographic area. Indeed, there is an ever-growing trend to having metropolitan exchange points among cooperating ISPs in small cities. The traditional exchange is for ISPs only, but the line between hosting centers and exchanges is constantly getting more blurry. Large provider POPs are not necessarily smaller than exchanges, but simply have a different management and operational model. I don't want to be negative, but if someone hasn't been playing in the ISP area for a while, is familiar with the NANOG/RIPE materials, etc., they aren't remotely ready to design a carrier-grade POP or exchange by themselves. Cisco consulting engineers, and I'd assume Juniper as well, can be very helpful when such a project is being considered.
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
--- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 7, 4:07am, "Fowler, Robert J." wrote: } } However it might be a good choice for someone who is building a home lab. It } is much cheaper to piece together some computers and throw zebra on it than } to buy several routers. I've never used Zebra but it sounds like if you had } some existing equipment and wanted to expand on that, couldn't afford to buy } another router but had some old PC's it would be the way to go, since } speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor in a home lab. Any thoughts? Although, you may learn something about the protocols, you won't learn anything about real routers. You definitely need to get hands on with real routers. Zebra could be used to simulate a secondary router in a multi-router experiment, but it isn't sufficient by itself. }-- End of excerpt from "Fowler, Robert J." Hi John, Is a real router a device which routes layer 3 packets? Or a device "specifically designed" to route layer 3 packets. Your statement implies the latter. Whereas I believe the former. You *will* learn about real routers because the pc is a real router. You may *not learn* anything about IOS or $VENDOR's routers. And before the hate mail floods my inbox, learning cisco's routers is a *good* thing. you can't ignore the 800lb gorilla. anthony __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dial Up networking books
Hi al I have been digging through the Cisco site for 2 weeks and as a final bootm line I decided that I need a good book to learn how to set up Cisco routers for different kind of dial-up dial-in configurations. Perhaps I missed something from the Cisco site but in my opinion it is impossible to have a big picture about dial-up networking with Cisco just browsing the web. I would be happy to find out about some useful links inside of this site because I would like to save my money. Coming back to the subject I would ask you to recommend me the best books for learning about that. Thanks in advance Cristian Piatnitchi a CCNA aspirant :-)) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
I like the Linux OS, but in my experience there are some problems with using it as a router for ISP connectivity. The most common situation is that I seen a bug with the PPP stack which causes the line to go into an up/down state. The problem is with LCP negotiation, for whatever reason, the Linux box sending its LCP negotiation and the router at the ISPs end is sending its LCP negotiation but neither one is reaching the open state. When you factor in the hardware costs of dedicating a computer for the task, and the hardware to link it to a T1 you are not far from the cost of a Cisco router. I would personally choose the Cisco router for this task. Jason -Original Message- From: anthony kim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers You seem tense. If you search the web, you will find many companies already running linux or freebsd and have no problems with full BGP views. It really isn't too difficult maintaining T1s either. CCN? plus linux isn't mutually exclusive so I don't see the hubbub. The "correct" solution on a cisco list is what cisco says is the correct solution. That I'll grant you. We are merely extending our horizons and discussing possibilities. CCN?s on this list (myself included) need not feel threatened. And finally, I disagree with regard to cost. You can't get a 3640 with 128MB DRAM for under a thousand. Ok, *maybe* you can snag a used one cheap, perhaps cut a deal somewheres, but I did not intend this to be a MY OS is better than IOS war. Let's not go there. --- dre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I disagree, Linux is a bad choice! A Cisco 3640 router would cost about the same and I'd like to see you get a full BGP table with Linux for the same hardware cost. plus, linux doesn't have CEF or any of the standard stuff that comes with IOS (or JunOS for that matter). The SMB market does what they will, and who cares anyways? They have *no* market share, they aren't Internet players, they aren't market players, they are NOTHING. what they DON'T NEED is another strange weird solution that I would only put into a lab ; they need something standard, something that works, something that will scale, something that will perform up to their needs, and something that most $20/hour NT admins could configure. I am all for (ok not for Linux, but for FreeBSD maybe) an open source OS for research or inside a lab where others are familiar with it. But suggesting Linux routers for a SMB (or Enterprise, or Service Provider) in a production, real environment is insane. Don't get me wrong, I like Zebra, it's a good tool. But I would never run it if my mom and pop needed a "router" solution for their new cybercafe. The "correct" solution for SMB is a 1600 or 1700 series router. For what you say "most" SMB's a 1605-R (Single WAN, Dual Ethernet) and two Catalyst 1900 switches would be more than sufficient and would cost less in time/effort alone for the initial setup. Choose one person out the 165,000 CCNA certified people, and I'm sure at least 90% of them could configure this environment for 802.1Q, HSRP, remote management, NAT, Firewall (Secure Integrated Software built-in to the router), or VPN (IPSEC, L2TP, PPTP/MPPE). That's what they are trained to do. Show me a Linux certification or training program that discusses T1 cards or Zebra installation/configuration. And then give me some numbers... Yeah I thought so. -dre "anthony kim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. So my obligatory cisco alternative: www.zebra.org On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:00:36PM -0600, William E. Gragido wrote: There ServerIronXL Layer 4-7 switches are pretty cool boxes as well. Foundry is also pretty nice in that their command line interface is awfully reminiscent of Cisco's. The transition from one to the other should not be too difficult. -Original Message- From: Christopher Kolp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:41 PM To: 'Brant Stevens'; 'William E. Gragido'; 'Howard C. Berkowitz'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers Foundry prices are killer and the performance is top notch. We're planning a roll out with 40 OC-12 POS. Guess who our preferred provider is? None other than foundry. -ck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brant Stevens Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 4:28 PM To:
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
Anthony Kim wrote, Hi Howard, --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is all well and good for the big time players, ISPs, big corps yadda yadda yadda, and companies with cash to burn like so much old toilet paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always can accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. So my obligatory cisco alternative: www.zebra.org And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and supports it? Good question. I think you are assuming larger sizes as "S" and "M" than does Cisco. When I did Cisco seminars for SMB resellers, one of the sales strawmen for "small" businesses was a dental office. More like 10 employees or so. (I did suggest that dentists would have special expertise in bridging, but, when my reference was understood, people threw pretzels at me). Perhaps a distinguishing feature of a "small" business is that they have NO professional network or system administrators. At best, admin is a collateral duty for an employee who may or may not have ANY training. My own dentist happens to be a technology enthusiast who likes working with computers, but, at some point, he realizes that time he spends doing administration is not time that can more profitably be used for billable patient care. My former internist was adept at getting his tie caught in the printer. I helped him get established with a Mac using the children's interface. My cardiologist, on the other hand, has a deep interest in medical information systems, and has a subspecialty in electrophysiology (and good hardware and algorithm background). While his group probably has 100 employees, they are extremely instrumentation-heavy and have a professional IT group. They spend lots of money on support -- think of their potential liability if they didn't, and a life-critical file got trashed. So while the cardiology group is small in numbers of employees, it's at least medium in terms of sophistication. They are starting to get into things like remote imaging with ATM links and the like, using technologies we tend to think of as large business. I think under 1,000 employees is reasonable for a mid-sized company. Less than 400 is a rough estimate for a small company. These companies tend to already have people taking care of their NT/Novell servers. Typically they already have file servers, print servers, and sometimes a router or two. But what if it's something like a home improvement center? Quite likely to use a turnkey inventory control system, but, depending on how the initial system was sold, may or may not have internal (or contract) support staff. Even large businesses may very consciously want to focus on "core competences". I can think of several computer and network manufacturers who outsource such things as help desks, server admin, payroll, etc., for various financial reasons. Maybe an Exchange server, Groupwise, or perhaps they've thrown together a home grown solution with qmail plus mysql plus cucipop. Throw in some switches to hook it all together. Maybe no 802.1d or VLANs in the mix, but still, a sustainable technology environment. But the average SMB that's not in the IT business probably hasn't thrown together a home grown solution. They don't have the staff to know where to start. Even more dangerous is that they may have people who know the components, but don't know how to make them foolproof--or even worse, geniusproof. And routing isn't too difficult, really. Especially in small environments: Anyone reasonably intelligent who knows TCP/IP intimately, can manage routing, or a firewall for that matter. I might have agreed until you said firewall. I'm far more likely to recommend outsourcing security administration than network administration. It's not that a firewall is necessarily hard to configure, but it is hard to know what should go into the configuration. Developing the security policy needs lots of experience. At the day-to-day level, anyone who expects to run a reasonably secure firewall needs to stay on top of the firewall, CERT, etc., mailing lists. That takes time, time which a consultant can amortize over multiple customers. Routing is reasonably straightforward until you start getting into high-availability, business critical functions, especially involving the Internet or extranets. Or learn how to. Anyone reasonably adept with a CLI can learn IOS. (IOS, in fact, is a far more primitive environment than the Unix shell.) And outside computer science programs, very few people are literate with UNIX shells--statistically speaking of the overall corporate environment. I've worked for small companies. The limited resources require sysadmins who can wear several hats and learn quickly. It's just the nature of the beast, nasty, brutish, but for expediency's sake,
Re: BSCN
I don't know about the Sybex book. I used the BSCN Study guide from CiscoPress, Routing TCP/IP, and Internet Routing Architectures, 2nd edition. Read through both study guides and the EIGRP and OSPF sections of Routing TCP/IP. If you understand and can explain what you've read at that point, you'll do fine. John "Manny Colon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/14/01 9:26:00 AM I just purchased the CCNP Routing Study Guide published by Sybex. Is the BSCN Cisco Press book better? I also have Routing TCP/IP Volume one. What should I use to study for the exam. -- Regards, Manny Colon Computer Services Information Builders Inc. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Benefits of two PVC's
I was wondering what all of the benefits of running two PVC's at one end of a frame circuit. telco (PVC)cloudPV C1router1 \_PVC2_router1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
This is obviously an opinionated subject but, in mine, the reason Cisco equipment is relatively expensive is not necessarily because of it's performance. The strongest argument for Cisco kit in any bid I've seen is the level of support (i.e. the TAC). There are plently of other vendors who have equivalent products that are widely regarded as faster, more stable and cheaper than Cisco kit but when the chips (and your network) are down, try getting someone at Lucent/Juniper/Foundry to pick up your case within a few minutes and be on the phone to you and connected to your equipment to troubleshoot until that problem is fixed. In short, if you have Cisco kit, get a contract! It's worth every penny. Well, given that I do support for Juniper I'm afraid I have to differ with you. We take very good care of our customers. I'm sure we provide the same level of service, if not higher, than any other vender. I've always been amused at the Cisco theory (on which they seem to be relaxing) that a CCIE, in particular, needs to be expert in everything, yet the TAC staff are divided into six or so specialty areas. At least when you call Juniper, there's no danger about your being shunted to an SNA or desktop expert in lieu of someone who deals with carrier-class routing. Again, one of the counterarguments to canonizing a company because it offers end to end solutions. SMB and carrier support requirements are very different. Even large enterprises often have different needs. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Modem to Console Port
Or, if you're using a US Robotics Sportster, just set the dip switches to all up and 7 down and dial in. Make sure you specify login and password under line con 0. "Chris Lemagie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is possible. There is actually no configuration on the router. You will need to set the modem to talk at 9600, 8, N, 1 with no local echo. You also need to set the modem to auto answer. Your modem should have documentation with the proper "AT" commands that you will need to issue. Save this configuration to the modems NVRAM and plug it into the router. Chris Lemagie... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Modem to Console Port Is is possible to connect a modem to the console port for remote configuration on the Cisco 1600 series? If so would you please provide me with a sample configuration? Thank you in advance for your assistance. John Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Converting from IGRP to EIGRP
First, please do not put everything in the same AS. This is a very bad thing, and I really wish Cisco would kill the feature. (I think it was placed in there for marketing) There are two standard ways to do this. The first is border - you simply redistribute and filter with distribute lists. The redistribution point can be moved as you convert, or more added (although you should only have two routers invloved if possible). The other is overlay. Both IGRP and EIGRP run on all routers in the network, but EIGRP's AD is weighted higher. Then you pull IGRP off. Any router that is not running IGRP will advertise the routes via EIGRP, and the only real trick is memory and making sure that you work from the outside in on the IGRP removal. --- "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this a few weeks ago and only got a few responses so I thought that I would try again. What would be the best way to migrate from IGRP to EIGRP? Everything is in the same AS. Should I just add the EIGRP statements to all of the routers and let EIRE do the redistribution automatically? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
On May 31, 8:23pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } On Jul 7, 4:07am, "Fowler, Robert J." wrote: } } } } However it might be a good choice for someone who is building a } home lab. It } } is much cheaper to piece together some computers and throw zebra } on it than } } to buy several routers. I've never used Zebra but it sounds like } if you had } } some existing equipment and wanted to expand on that, couldn't } afford to buy } } another router but had some old PC's it would be the way to go, } since } } speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor in a home lab. Any } thoughts? } } Although, you may learn something about the protocols, you } won't } learn anything about real routers. You definitely need to get } hands on } with real routers. Zebra could be used to simulate a secondary } router } in a multi-router experiment, but it isn't sufficient by itself. } } Is a real router a device which routes layer 3 packets? Or a device } "specifically designed" to route layer 3 packets. Your statement } implies the latter. Whereas I believe the former. The latter. A PC make be able to route packets, but that doesn't make it a real router. The hardware device is going to be faster (especially at the high end), more reliable, require much less maintenance (which makes it cheaper in the long run), and easier to install and setup (not to mention take up far less space). I'm a huge fan of UNIX and will tend to run just about everything on UNIX systems, but even I realise that UNIX host based systems are not the correct solution for every problem. } You *will* learn about real routers because the pc is a real router. } You may *not learn* anything about IOS or $VENDOR's routers. That is the purpose of getting Cisco certs... }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
Intersting thread. I didn't know cisco defined a small business so strictly. Is that an exam question? :) Of course the bottom line is, you make technology recommendations on what the business can handle, what they require, and what they can afford. At some intersection of this triad, an answer may surface. I am fortunate in that my experience with networking people have all been with knowledgable and clever folks. --- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 7:43pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always } can } accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and } cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. } } So my obligatory cisco alternative: } www.zebra.org } } And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and } supports it? } } } Good question. } } I think under 1,000 employees is reasonable for a mid-sized company. } Less than 400 is a rough estimate for a small company. These Your numbers are a little off. Cisco defines them as: SOHO -- Small Office / Home Office: 1-20 users Small Business: 20-100 users Medium Business: 100-500 users I would tend to go along with these numbers. } companies tend to already have people taking care of their NT/Novell Medium businesses certainly. However, small businesses may or may not. Many of them will contract out the higher end stuff. } I don't think it's too much of a stretch for their in-house staff to } maintain Linux or FreeBSD. College grads are already familiar with } these free systems, or ought to be. Presumably, in-house staff should There's a big difference between playing with them at home and knowing how to handle production systems. Also, unless they went to vocational or technical schools, they won't have any operations training. } already know OSI, TCP/IP, and IPX. Thus, the learning curve isn't too That's a big presumption. } And routing isn't too difficult, really. Especially in small } environments: Anyone reasonably intelligent who knows TCP/IP } intimately, can manage routing, or a firewall for that matter. Or How many people know TCP/IP intimately? Probably fewer then you think. Firewalls are specialty items that still require knowledgable people. Unless you like either having people break into your network or having your network break. } I've worked for small companies. The limited resources require } sysadmins who can wear several hats and learn quickly. It's just the } nature of the beast, nasty, brutish, but for expediency's sake, as } variegated as the business needs require. That's true, but they don't necessarily have to know everything. Some of the more complex stuff could be farmed out. }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim On May 31, 7:43pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } paper. The Small and Midsized Business market (SMB) almost always } can } accomplish what they want with free Unix or Linux for layer 3 and } cheap stackable switches with or without 802.1q support. } } So my obligatory cisco alternative: } www.zebra.org } } And, in a non-information technology related SMB, who installs and } supports it? } } } Good question. } } I think under 1,000 employees is reasonable for a mid-sized company. } Less than 400 is a rough estimate for a small company. These Your numbers are a little off. Cisco defines them as: SOHO -- Small Office / Home Office: 1-20 users Small Business: 20-100 users Medium Business: 100-500 users I would tend to go along with these numbers. } companies tend to already have people taking care of their NT/Novell Medium businesses certainly. However, small businesses may or may not. Many of them will contract out the higher end stuff. } I don't think it's too much of a stretch for their in-house staff to } maintain Linux or FreeBSD. College grads are already familiar with } these free systems, or ought to be. Presumably, in-house staff should There's a big difference between playing with them at home and knowing how to handle production systems. Also, unless they went to vocational or technical schools, they won't have any operations training. } already know OSI, TCP/IP, and IPX. Thus, the learning curve isn't too That's a big presumption. } And routing isn't too difficult, really. Especially in small } environments: Anyone reasonably intelligent who knows TCP/IP } intimately, can manage routing, or a firewall for that matter. Or How many people know TCP/IP intimately? Probably fewer then you think. Firewalls are specialty items that still require knowledgable people. Unless you like either having people break into your network or
Re: Benefits of two PVC's
My company does primary and secondary PVC's to customers for purposes of failover. We have one PVC into our primary 6Mb Frame port and the secondary PVC into our secondary 4.5Mb Frame port. Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer Kg2 Network Design http://www.kg2.com - Original Message - From: "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:27 AM Subject: Benefits of two PVC's I was wondering what all of the benefits of running two PVC's at one end of a frame circuit. telco (PVC)cloudPV C1router1 \_PVC2_router1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
switching types
I really enjoyed this link and appreciate your reply, for everyone else read through this article this link goes for a nice look at different switching types. http://www.nwc.com/1004/1004ws2.html From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Howard C. Berkowitz" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BPX going out of style? Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:30:27 -0500 John Nemeth said, On Jul 6, 1:28pm, "Brian Lodwick" wrote: } } I have heard many tales of how ATM will explode soon, will be partenered } perfectly with DSL, and everyone will implement it, but I just haven't seen } it. I like the idea of improving technologies your engineering and support } staff are familiar with (Not counting new technology with old names like } IPv6). I hope this is able to work out, and isn't too far down the road. IPv6 is coming. There are just too many shortcomings in IPv4 that can't be solved using hacks. The biggest being the lack of address space. It really isn't a question of "if" but rather "when". Some of the "killer apps" that have moved IPv6 into high gear include the decision by the third generation wireless people to use V6 as their basic protocol, which, as we speak, is being built into handsets. } Is there any talk of using smaller tags in IP to create big pipes similar to } ATM's VCI's so that you could lower the ip address mask-lookup processor } overhead on backbone IP routers? I think this would be a neat idea. Even You've just described MPLS. } though the CAM table is fast the router must still read the entire address } and mask. Small pipe identifiers could be inserted into the ip header and } extracted at the gateways and lookup would be lowered. Like xtags on VLANS. IP headers are only 20 bytes and aren't much of a problem. The real problem is with compression, encryption, access lists, etc. Check out this URL for a study on what happens when access lists are used: http://www.nwc.com/1004/1004ws2.html }-- End of excerpt from "Brian Lodwick" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
--- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } Is a real router a device which routes layer 3 packets? Or a device } "specifically designed" to route layer 3 packets. Your statement } implies the latter. Whereas I believe the former. The latter. A PC make be able to route packets, but that doesn't make it a real router. The hardware device is going to be faster (especially at the high end), more reliable, require much less maintenance (which makes it cheaper in the long run), and easier to install and setup (not to mention take up far less space). John, you've just added qualifications to the definition of a real router. Am I correct then in saying you believe a real router is a) a device that routes layer 3 packets b) a device strictly designed to route layer 3 packets c) a device that routes layer 3 fast and reliably d) all of the above The cisco exam answer is: d) I'm just too damn liberal with my definitions so would have chosen a) I'm a huge fan of UNIX and will tend to run just about everything on UNIX systems, but even I realise that UNIX host based systems are not the correct solution for every problem. Agreed. } You *will* learn about real routers because the pc is a real router. } You may *not learn* anything about IOS or $VENDOR's routers. That is the purpose of getting Cisco certs... }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim Thus our raison d'etre. anthony __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE:PROBLEM FIXED: ---------------------- DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work.
HI LEIGH ANNE and everyone, The problem was fixed by allowing VLANs out of the trunk on port f0/21. (See below). I don't have an amber light on the blocked port but since the show span indicates that the port is blocked I can live with that. (Maybe TAC should be the next step!) I would like now to document the rules used to solve this problem: Leigh Anne, please correct me if I am wrong! 1) The spanning protocol includes trunk ports in its calculation. 2) If a trunk is not allowed to trunk any VLAN, the port is considered inactive 3) Since an inactive port does not forward traffic it does not create a loop 4) A port that does not create a loop will not be put in blocking mode (which explains my earlier problem) So LEIGH ANNE, when are you going to claim your CCIE? (My apology if you already have it!) A thousand thanks to Leigh Anne and all for the learning experience, Pierre-Alex **CONFIGURATION PROBLEM** C2924XL#sh int f 0/20 sw Switchport: Enabled Administrative mode: trunk Operational Mode: trunk Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: isl Operational Trunking Encapsulation: isl Negotiation of Trunking: Disabled Access Mode VLAN: 0 ((Inactive)) Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking VLANs Enabled: ALL Trunking VLANs Active: 1-3 Pruning VLANs Enabled: NONE C2924XL#sh int f 0/21 sw Name: Fa0/21 Switchport: Enabled Administrative mode: static access Operational Mode: static access Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: isl Operational Trunking Encapsulation: isl Negotiation of Trunking: Disabled Access Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking VLANs Enabled: NONE-- Pruning VLANs Enabled: NONE **I AM FIXING THE PROBLEM*** On interface f0/21 I did: sw trunk allowed vlan all sw trunk allowed vlan add 1 sw trunk allowed vlan add 2 sw trunk allowed vlan add 3 **PROBLEM FIXED!!* C2924XL#sh int f 0/21 sw Name: Fa0/21 Switchport: Enabled Administrative mode: trunk Operational Mode: trunk Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: isl Operational Trunking Encapsulation: isl Negotiation of Trunking: Disabled Access Mode VLAN: 0 ((Inactive)) Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking VLANs Enabled: ALL-- Trunking VLANs Active: 1-3-- Pruning VLANs Enabled: NONE **SPANNING PROTOCOL WITH ONE PORT BLOCKED!** Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 78555, received 6 Interface Fa0/21 (port 23) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING Port path cost 19, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3ef0.3580 Designated port is 23, path cost 0 Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0 BPDU: sent 78551, received 4 Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 --More-- Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Blocking-- Port path cost 10, Port priority 128 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 23, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Pierre-Alex -Original Message- From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:57 AM To: Pierre-Alex; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Dale Cunningham Subject: RE: DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work. Port 0/27 on the Catalyst 1912 doesn't seem to be sending anything to Port 0/21 on the Catalyst 2924XL. If you look at my message from last night, you'll notice that Fa0/21 hasn't been receiving input for 3 hours. If BPDU's are sent every 2 seconds, there's some sort of communication fault occurring with the port. Since the Catalyst 1912's 0/27 port is set to trunk on, it is likely not communicating with Port 0/21 because port 0/21 hasn't been set to trunk. Try trunking the 2924XL's port and see what happens. In your configuration, port 0/27 on the Catalyst 1912 is the one that Spanning Tree will block. Check its status once you've completed setting up the
RE: Modem to Console Port
John brought one thing to light that I forgot to mention earlier. By connecting a modem to the router, you are opening a security hole into your network. Make sure to set a timeout on the console port so that when a user hangs up, the console session will timeout and another user can't come in behind you and grab your console session. You may also want to have somebody at a remote branch physically unplug the phone cable from your router after you have completed any configuration changes. Better yet, control access to your routers with Cisco Secure ACS. You can then set privilege levels on a user by user basis as well as logging access to your networking infrastructure. Hope this helps... Chris Lemagie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Lemagie Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:18 AM To: John; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Modem to Console Port It is possible. There is actually no configuration on the router. You will need to set the modem to talk at 9600, 8, N, 1 with no local echo. You also need to set the modem to auto answer. Your modem should have documentation with the proper "AT" commands that you will need to issue. Save this configuration to the modems NVRAM and plug it into the router. Chris Lemagie... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Modem to Console Port Is is possible to connect a modem to the console port for remote configuration on the Cisco 1600 series? If so would you please provide me with a sample configuration? Thank you in advance for your assistance. John Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface
The way my company does it is to weight routes for the two PVC's. Serial0/0.1 point-to-point ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252 no ip route-cache no cdp enable frame-relay interface-dlci 20 ! Serial0/0.2 point-to-point ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252 no ip route-cache no cdp enable frame-relay interface-dlci 21 ! ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2 ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200 ! end wr This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it is directly connected. Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link should become unreachable. You have to be careful with the administrative distance on the backup route. If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP, etc.) you will have to take into account what the default distances are for these protocols. Keep in mind that a route that points to an interface is distance 0 and a route to an IP address is distance 1. Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer Kg2 Network Design http://www.kg2.com - Original Message - From: "Adam Wang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: backup subinterface on another subinterface Hi group, I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2 subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails. I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a subinterface on the backup command, only the physical interface. So backup interface s0 is possible. Why is that and how can I do this Thanks in advance Adam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bgp questions
Correct but also remember that it's only for routes received from iBGP peers not eBGP peers. There really is a lot of confusion about when to use or not use synchronization much less what routes it affects. I spend extra time in the Advanced BGP class that I teach ensuring that the students fully understand synchronization. Brian Dennis CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ahmed Aden Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: Brian Dennis Cc: Rodgers Moore; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: bgp questions Thanks for the clarification. So with 'no synchronization' set, every peer who RECEIVES that route doesn't have to verify if there is an igp route to it, but the originator still checks before advertising it? On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Brian Dennis wrote: Sychonization only comes into play when a BGP route is learned from an iBGP peer. If you are the origniator of the route you must have an IGP route. Disabling synchonization won't affect the originator of the route. Brian Dennis CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ahmed Aden Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:36 AM To: Rodgers Moore Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: bgp questions Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only situation that bgp cares about IGP's synchronization is when bgp is explicitly configured to announce networks (i.e network x.x.x.x mask x.x.x.x) and it would have to check the igp to see if there is a valid route to that network. This can be overridden by 'no synchronization'. However, the default behavior is that bgp announces active (I'm not sure what activate means) routes (routes which are reachable via an IGP's routing table) to all configured bgp peers irrespective of whether they are an ibgp or ebgp peer. For this reason, I would select A. It's still very poorly worded, assuming 'activate' is not a typo. hope this helps On Wed, 14 Feb 2001, Rodgers Moore wrote: Yuck, really bad question. No frame of reference, no nothin. What is a activate route anyway? Active route? I think the key to answering this question is the question: when would BGP not report an active route? When BGP and the IGP are not in sync, then an active route would not be reported. I say "D" is the most likely suspect, although I would change BGP to EBGP. Rodgers Moore ""Howard C. Berkowitz"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:p05001900b6aff192dfe7@[63.216.127.98]... I would choose D , correct me if I am wrong --- David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have this question on my cisco prep exam fill-in-the-blank. Please = help. A BGP router reports all activate routes based from BGP __. This is = the default policy action for BGP routers. A. to all BGP peers B. to all IBGP peers C. to all EBGP peers D. and the IGP's configured on the router to all BGP peers I select choice a. Is it correct? David Tran [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a poorly written question. If I was forced to pick, but I don't understand the first sentence. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Modem to Console Port
Also another note if you are going to connect an OOB modem. You may want to configure the modem to pick up after like five rings. That way if a hacker is using a dialer program looking for modem tones they usually don't wait more than 2 rings before it hangs up and tries another. Brian From: "Chris Lemagie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Chris Lemagie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Chris Lemagie" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "John" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Modem to Console Port Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:51:33 -0800 John brought one thing to light that I forgot to mention earlier. By connecting a modem to the router, you are opening a security hole into your network. Make sure to set a timeout on the console port so that when a user hangs up, the console session will timeout and another user can't come in behind you and grab your console session. You may also want to have somebody at a remote branch physically unplug the phone cable from your router after you have completed any configuration changes. Better yet, control access to your routers with Cisco Secure ACS. You can then set privilege levels on a user by user basis as well as logging access to your networking infrastructure. Hope this helps... Chris Lemagie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chris Lemagie Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 8:18 AM To: John; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Modem to Console Port It is possible. There is actually no configuration on the router. You will need to set the modem to talk at 9600, 8, N, 1 with no local echo. You also need to set the modem to auto answer. Your modem should have documentation with the proper "AT" commands that you will need to issue. Save this configuration to the modems NVRAM and plug it into the router. Chris Lemagie... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Modem to Console Port Is is possible to connect a modem to the console port for remote configuration on the Cisco 1600 series? If so would you please provide me with a sample configuration? Thank you in advance for your assistance. John Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
On May 31, 9:53pm, anthony kim wrote: } } Intersting thread. I didn't know cisco defined a small business so } strictly. Is that an exam question? :) It came from the SMB sales essential course, which is a reseller course. However, it closely co-incides with other definitions I've seen. } Of course the bottom line is, you make technology recommendations on } what the business can handle, what they require, and what they can } afford. At some intersection of this triad, an answer may surface. Yep. } I am fortunate in that my experience with networking people have all } been with knowledgable and clever folks. Very fortunate. }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: alternative to Cisco routers
On May 31, 9:58pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } } } } Is a real router a device which routes layer 3 packets? Or a } device } } "specifically designed" to route layer 3 packets. Your statement } } implies the latter. Whereas I believe the former. } } The latter. A PC make be able to route packets, but that } doesn't } make it a real router. The hardware device is going to be faster } (especially at the high end), more reliable, require much less } maintenance (which makes it cheaper in the long run), and easier to } install and setup (not to mention take up far less space). } } John, you've just added qualifications to the definition of a real } router. Am I correct then in saying you believe a real router is } } a) a device that routes layer 3 packets } b) a device strictly designed to route layer 3 packets } c) a device that routes layer 3 fast and reliably } d) all of the above } } The cisco exam answer is: d) } I'm just too damn liberal with my definitions so would have chosen a) I would say d). Here's an analogy for you. You can insert/remove Philips (and, some other) screws by using a small slotted screwdriver. Does that make the slotted screwdriver a Philips screwdriver? }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
I like the use of "real router". What is a "real" router. Routers route using layer 3 info. PC's are and can be made routers. And yes they are "real" routers. -Original Message- From: John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: anthony kim [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fowler, Robert J. [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 1:14 PM Subject: RE: alternative to Cisco routers On May 31, 8:23pm, anthony kim wrote: } --- John Nemeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: } On Jul 7, 4:07am, "Fowler, Robert J." wrote: } } } } However it might be a good choice for someone who is building a } home lab. It } } is much cheaper to piece together some computers and throw zebra } on it than } } to buy several routers. I've never used Zebra but it sounds like } if you had } } some existing equipment and wanted to expand on that, couldn't } afford to buy } } another router but had some old PC's it would be the way to go, } since } } speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor in a home lab. Any } thoughts? } } Although, you may learn something about the protocols, you } won't } learn anything about real routers. You definitely need to get } hands on } with real routers. Zebra could be used to simulate a secondary } router } in a multi-router experiment, but it isn't sufficient by itself. } } Is a real router a device which routes layer 3 packets? Or a device } "specifically designed" to route layer 3 packets. Your statement } implies the latter. Whereas I believe the former. The latter. A PC make be able to route packets, but that doesn't make it a real router. The hardware device is going to be faster (especially at the high end), more reliable, require much less maintenance (which makes it cheaper in the long run), and easier to install and setup (not to mention take up far less space). I'm a huge fan of UNIX and will tend to run just about everything on UNIX systems, but even I realise that UNIX host based systems are not the correct solution for every problem. } You *will* learn about real routers because the pc is a real router. } You may *not learn* anything about IOS or $VENDOR's routers. That is the purpose of getting Cisco certs... }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Automatic dialing
Hi all !!! Has somebody configured a Cisco 800 series in order to make an "automatic-dial" when the router has booted up??? It must be done without external help as Internet browsers asking for webpages, mail clients asking for new mail, etc. I wanna know if it possible to make it work as soon as possible. I haven't found anything related to this in cisco web-documentation. Anybody can help me ! Thank you very much in advance. Miguel Angel Romero Arcas Dpto. Técnica de Sistemas CESSER Informática y Organización, S.L. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: backup subinterface on another subinterface
Thanks for all your input on setting up a floating static suggestion, but the 2 PVCs that I have are both active and in production, and each is carrying different type of traffic. They are both acting as primary links. I want to set up something that if one fail, it will jump to the other one. I don't think floating static will work in this case. Adam --- Kelly D Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The way my company does it is to weight routes for the two PVC's. Serial0/0.1 point-to-point ip address 192.168.255.1 255.255.255.252 no ip route-cache no cdp enable frame-relay interface-dlci 20 ! Serial0/0.2 point-to-point ip address 192.168.255.5 255.255.255.252 no ip route-cache no cdp enable frame-relay interface-dlci 21 ! ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.2 ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.255.6 200 ! end wr This says to route the traffic over S0/0.1 as it is directly connected. Route the traffic over S0/0.2 if the primary link should become unreachable. You have to be careful with the administrative distance on the backup route. If you are running a routing protocol (OSPF, RIP, etc.) you will have to take into account what the default distances are for these protocols. Keep in mind that a route that points to an interface is distance 0 and a route to an IP address is distance 1. Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA Network Engineer Kg2 Network Design http://www.kg2.com - Original Message - From: "Adam Wang" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 10:08 AM Subject: backup subinterface on another subinterface Hi group, I have 2 PVCs setup using Frame Relay on a serial interface with 2 subinterafces, and I want these 2 subinterfaces to backup each other when 1 fails. I did backup interface s0.2, but it won't allow a subinterface on the backup command, only the physical interface. So backup interface s0 is possible. Why is that and how can I do this Thanks in advance Adam __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions http://1cis.com Free E-mail Servers with unlimited mailboxes 1st Class Internet Solutions _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terminal Server for beginners
Group I have been fighting with the performance of my terminal server for a few weeks now. It works, and I have been using it, but like I said I have been fighting with it. It seems to send characters to other ports when I haven't initiated a connection to that port. The way I can tell this is when I get onto that port it is responding to characters entered even though I haven't entered anything. This is quite peculiar. I have looked at many books to see if I am doing something wrong and the only indication was in Bruce Caslow's book saying if your terminal server incorrectly shows active connections on lines that don't have any connections established the command "modem host" on the line config will fix this. Well this didn't fix mine for s*#@. I finally figured out the way to fix mine was to add "modem inout" boom it works like a charm. I am running 12.0.8 on this 2511. Maybe this is something everyone already knew, but I didn't and maybe it will save someone else some pain. config t ip host r1 10.0.0.1 2001 int loopback 0 ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 exit line 1 8 transport input all modem inout exec-timeout 0 0 other routers assure the exec-timeout is set to 0 0 on the console. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits of two PVC's
- Original Message - From: "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering what all of the benefits of running two PVC's at one end of a frame circuit. There are some situations when running two paralel PVCs is necessary in FR clouds experiencing congestions. Sometimes FR network are implemented in such way that network device at cloud edge allow customers to transmit frames exceeding CIR without setting DE bit at entry point. When customer want to be sure that priority data frames within CIR bandwidth would not be dropped, he must mark other nonpriority frames with DE bits. Assuming that other customers transmit all frames within cir and above without setting de bits, theirs frames are preferred at congestion points. The workaround for this inequal treatment is to run two pvc's - one subscribed with cir and one without cir, putting all nonpriority data into second pvc not marking it with de bits. P/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
Anthony, Olives are just computer running JUNOS. Juniper routers essentially have two components: Routing Engine (RE) and Packet Forwarding Engine (PFE). RE interacts with PFE via an NIC (Inter EtherExpress). These Olives are essentially either FreeBSD or OpenBSD that can be installed on a PC (they have to be run on Intel EtherExpress NIC) to simulate pretty much everything you want (i.e. RIP, OSPF, IS-IS, BGP, MPLS, etc...). A very fine product. Am I correct? John. C anthony kim wrote: --- Mark Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a related note, in my home lab I have 25xx's and Olives (PC with JunOS, based on a unix kernel). I can easily bring the 25xx's to its knees while not even breaking a sweat on the Olives. I heard rumors that Olives are equivalent to 4700's, but I have not confirmed that in testing. -- Mark Nguyen Juniper Networks Senior Network Engineer Eastern Region IT/POC Mark Pardon my Juniper ignorance. What is an Olive and how much do they cost? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIF length Field Question
Hello all, I'm a little confused over "length" bits in the RIF. The Token Ring White Paper (Lou Rossi), states that "bits 12 through 8 describe the total length represented in bytes." It goes on to say that a value of "a" indicates there are 3 bridges, an "8" indicates there are 2 bridges, and a "6" indicates there is one (1) bridge. My question is this: Does the above parameters take int0 account the very last bridge i.e., since all RIFs end in a bridge of "0," is this last bridge (0) included in the count of the length bits? Example: Packet type = specific route Direction Frame size = 512 Host1--ring--bridge--ring--bridge--ring--Host2 Would this be a "0830...xxx0" or a "0A30...xxx0" The reason that I ask, is because on several CCIE practice test, as well as the actual written exam, the answers do not seem to regard this fine point. thanks _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Benefits of two PVC's
We use two local frame relay PVCs over point-to-point to manage CPE that do bridging only. We build one PVC for management with a private IP for our use and a second PVC to bridge through to the ethernet port. This avoids any possible conflict with the customer addressing or with security issues. Andrew Cook - Original Message - From: "Roberts, Timothy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 12:27 PM Subject: Benefits of two PVC's I was wondering what all of the benefits of running two PVC's at one end of a frame circuit. telco (PVC)cloudPV C1router1 \_PVC2_router1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Refuses to Cooperate!
Here is another challenging problem I have. Anyone? Switch 1912-EN is connected to Switch 2924XL via two trunks (Port A and port B.) The spanning tree has disabled port B to prevent a loop. I am trying to force B to go in fowarding mode and have A be in blocking mode. I tried changing the cost of the path, but the swith rectified it to 10. So I thought: "well, I can change the priority of the interfaces and reload the switch and that should do the trick". Well it did not (See below). I can only think of two things: A. I have not understood proprely the use of a port priority and I am changing the wrong parameter B. I have changed the right parameter but there is something else that I am missing in the configuration. Port FastEthernet 0/26 of VLAN1 is Forwarding Port path cost 10, Port priority 100-- I changed this from 128 to 100 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 22, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 --More-- Port FastEthernet 0/27 of VLAN1 is Blocking Port path cost 10, Port priority 0 --I changed this from 128 to 0 Designated root has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated bridge has priority 32768, address 0050.3EF0.3580 Designated port is 23, path cost 0 Timers: message age 20, forward delay 15, hold 1 Pierre-Alex As several people have found out recently, I **love** understanding all the nuances of why technology works the way it does. When things go wrong, it's so much easier to identify a problem when you can compare what SHOULD be happening to what IS occurring. Took me a while to pick through everything, but my spanning tree troubleshooting skill-set increased significantly as a result of this exercise! Thanks for the opportunity! -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: February 14, 2001 10:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail) Cc: Dale Cunningham; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:PROBLEM FIXED: -- DISTURBING: Spanning Tree Protocol Does not Work. HI LEIGH ANNE and everyone, The problem was fixed by allowing VLANs out of the trunk on port f0/21. (See below). I don't have an amber light on the blocked port but since the show span indicates that the port is blocked I can live with that. (Maybe TAC should be the next step!) I would like now to document the rules used to solve this problem: Leigh Anne, please correct me if I am wrong! 1) The spanning protocol includes trunk ports in its calculation. 2) If a trunk is not allowed to trunk any VLAN, the port is considered inactive 3) Since an inactive port does not forward traffic it does not create a loop 4) A port that does not create a loop will not be put in blocking mode (which explains my earlier problem) So LEIGH ANNE, when are you going to claim your CCIE? (My apology if you already have it!) A thousand thanks to Leigh Anne and all for the learning experience, Pierre-Alex **CONFIGURATION PROBLEM** C2924XL#sh int f 0/20 sw Switchport: Enabled Administrative mode: trunk Operational Mode: trunk Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: isl Operational Trunking Encapsulation: isl Negotiation of Trunking: Disabled Access Mode VLAN: 0 ((Inactive)) Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking VLANs Enabled: ALL Trunking VLANs Active: 1-3 Pruning VLANs Enabled: NONE C2924XL#sh int f 0/21 sw Name: Fa0/21 Switchport: Enabled Administrative mode: static access Operational Mode: static access Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: isl Operational Trunking Encapsulation: isl Negotiation of Trunking: Disabled Access Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking VLANs Enabled: NONE-- Pruning VLANs Enabled: NONE **I AM FIXING THE PROBLEM*** On interface f0/21 I did: sw trunk allowed vlan all sw trunk allowed vlan add 1 sw trunk allowed vlan add 2 sw trunk allowed vlan add 3 **PROBLEM FIXED!!* C2924XL#sh int f 0/21 sw Name: Fa0/21 Switchport: Enabled Administrative mode: trunk Operational Mode: trunk Administrative Trunking Encapsulation: isl Operational Trunking Encapsulation: isl Negotiation of Trunking: Disabled Access Mode VLAN: 0 ((Inactive)) Trunking Native Mode VLAN: 1 (default) Trunking VLANs Enabled: ALL-- Trunking VLANs Active: 1-3-- Pruning VLANs Enabled: NONE **SPANNING PROTOCOL WITH ONE PORT BLOCKED!** Interface Fa0/20 (port 22) in Spanning tree 1 is FORWARDING
Re: Terminal Server for beginners
Under line 1 8, issuing a 'no exec' command should also do the trick. ak Brian Lodwick wrote: Group I have been fighting with the performance of my terminal server for a few weeks now. It works, and I have been using it, but like I said I have been fighting with it. It seems to send characters to other ports when I haven't initiated a connection to that port. The way I can tell this is when I get onto that port it is responding to characters entered even though I haven't entered anything. This is quite peculiar. I have looked at many books to see if I am doing something wrong and the only indication was in Bruce Caslow's book saying if your terminal server incorrectly shows active connections on lines that don't have any connections established the command "modem host" on the line config will fix this. Well this didn't fix mine for s*#@. I finally figured out the way to fix mine was to add "modem inout" boom it works like a charm. I am running 12.0.8 on this 2511. Maybe this is something everyone already knew, but I didn't and maybe it will save someone else some pain. config t ip host r1 10.0.0.1 2001 int loopback 0 ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0 exit line 1 8 transport input all modem inout exec-timeout 0 0 other routers assure the exec-timeout is set to 0 0 on the console. _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Cheers, Akbar Kara212.305.6869 Network Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] Core Resources - Columbia Presbyterian [EMAIL PROTECTED] == _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SMB and opportunities (was Alternative to Cisco Routers)
Anthony Kim continued, Intersting thread. I didn't know cisco defined a small business so strictly. Is that an exam question? :) Historically, commercial data networking started with mainframes interconnected with leased lines. These machines were either in large enterprises or in academic/research institutions. SNA, for example, gave extensive operational control, and needed a considerable staff to support it. I've seen a market research report that said: in 1982, 86% of networking customers could build and support their own networks in 1996, 14% of customers could do so. It's not necessarily that enterprises are more or less clueful -- it's that the enterprises that get into communications are much smaller or more poorly budgeted. The distinction has been made that networking began with the Fortune 500, but now has spread to the Fortune 5,000,000. As business dependence on networking grows, the smaller companies have the alternatives: Without internal or external network support staff, wait for a major failure (hard downtime, or inability to service their customers) and go into bankruptcy. Hire from a scarce pool of qualified (certified?) people and watch their margins go down, if they don't have enough networking activity to keep these (expensive) people busy. Go into bankruptcy. Buy networking products that are as turnkey as possible. Buy support, which may or may not stay within their margins. Of course the bottom line is, you make technology recommendations on what the business can handle, what they require, and what they can afford. At some intersection of this triad, an answer may surface. I am fortunate in that my experience with networking people have all been with knowledgable and clever folks. It has long been a valid assumption that no one ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence or taste of the public. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: alternative to Cisco routers
Well of course a 4700 (or equivalent) will handle more traffic than a 2501!!! Thanks kinda not a fair comparison don't you think. - Original Message - From: "anthony kim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Mark Nguyen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 2:10 PM Subject: Re: alternative to Cisco routers --- Mark Nguyen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a related note, in my home lab I have 25xx's and Olives (PC with JunOS, based on a unix kernel). I can easily bring the 25xx's to its knees while not even breaking a sweat on the Olives. I heard rumors that Olives are equivalent to 4700's, but I have not confirmed that in testing. -- Mark Nguyen Juniper Networks Senior Network Engineer Eastern Region IT/POC Mark Pardon my Juniper ignorance. What is an Olive and how much do they cost? __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE RS Going to be Replaced..!!
You mean the same as a duck. --Original Message-- From: "Rodgers Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: February 14, 2001 6:02:58 AM GMT Subject: Re: CCIE RS Going to be Replaced..!! Witches or not, think about this. Cisco is end of lifing the 2500 series this year. So it is reasonable to expect that all of the routers in the lab will be 2600, 3600, and maybe 7200 series sometime this year. Now if you were to add in VIC's,WIC's and VWIC's the lab could get real interesting Remember that just because the route floats doesn't mean it's made of wood. If it weighs the same as a goose, then it's made of wood and of course, then it is a witch. Rodgers Moore "Danial wood" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... dear group I have heard a news abt the format of the CCIE RS exam is going to be changed in the next two months or so.Is that right? Danial __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
