RE: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Farhan Ahmed

hi ejay..

sunet calc wont calc wild mask or does it?

Best Regards
> -Original Message-
> From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 12:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]
> 
> 
> No, Solution2 is correct. 
> The objective was to permit x.x.240-255.0-255 per the 
> original message :
> >What mask would be used if you want to create an
> >access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
> >128.252.240.0) would be blocked
> >pls support with explanation,
> 
> You can check it with the subnet calculator from B0s0n Software.
> 
> -ejay
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:23 PM
> To: 'Hire, Ejay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]
> 
> 
> solution2; will permit 1-240 range and the deny statement 
> will deny the rest
> thats opposite
> 
> to get a wild mask
> we put higher minus lower
> 
>  255.255.255.255
>  255.255.240. 0
>0  015   255
> 
> so the router will permit 1-240 instead
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
> To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]
> 
> 
> Objective:  
> Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
> 128.252.240.0
> 
> Solution 1:
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 
> 128.252.0-127.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 
> 128.252.128-191.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 
> 128.252.192-223.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 
> 128.252.224-239.0-255
> access-list 1 permit any Allows all other 
> traffic to
> pass.
> 
> Solution 2:
> access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits 
> 128.252.240-255.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic 
> from 128.252 that
> is not permitted by the previous line
> access-list 1 permit any
> 
> Notes:
> Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will 
> result in less
> processor utilization in most scenarios.
> 
> -Ejay
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: access list.. [7:13564]
> 
> 
> What mask would be used if you want to create an
> access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
> 128.252.240.0) would be blocked
> pls support with explanation,

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Async comes up but encapsulation fails [7:13834]

2001-07-25 Thread Ahmed Mamoor Amimi

Hi,
I am working on a senerio where i have to connect two sites by POTS and
trigger a DDR when needed.
When i ping the other end the DDR initiates and LCP , CDPCP and IPCP are
open but when i start debug ip packet it says "encapsulation failed"

any help!!!

-Mamoor




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RE: ccna challenge question [7:13565]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I would like to add one small comment.

At every test I have attended (MS and Cisco), I have seen questions where
the wording was weird. It would be one of those questions that if asked by a
person in your presence, you would ask "don't you mean, how to ...".

The problem is, that to a test on a dumb computer, you can't ask the program
what it's actually asking, so you have to sit and sweat and think, okay is
this a trick question where they want me to answer this, or is a bad worded
and they actually are trying to ask me that???

This is one of those where you mix the work classful with a vlsm network.

It's kind of, what would the ship captain tell the taxi driver to make him
turn right if he should use maritime expresions. Well, everyone know that
you would say right to the driver, but in maritime terms it would be
starboard (and most likely 90 degrees).

So, what do the "test" want you to reply - right or starboard.

It should be a test of you knowledge in that topic, and not to see if you
can psycho-analyze what went on in the head of the person who wrote that
question, at the time he/she wrote it.

I hate those questions...

Ole


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From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
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Subject: RE: ccna challenge question [7:13565]


one final belaborment of the point. ( where is Bob Vance, whose thoroughness
would be quite welcome here? )

observe the following from a lab setup. all interfaces in the pod are /29
subnets of the 37.0.0.0 network. note the RIP routes that are in the routing
table. auto summarization is turned off, but even with it turned on, there
is no effect on the routes advertised. other vendors may have different ways
of doing it.

How is it that RIP, a classful protocol, can advertise non classful subnets?

Gateway of last resort is 37.1.1.26 to network 0.0.0.0

C171.171.0.0/16 is directly connected, Loopback0
 37.0.0.0/29 is subnetted, 7 subnets
R   37.1.1.32 [120/1] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.40 [120/1] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.48 [120/2] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.0 [120/3] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.8 [120/2] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
C   37.1.1.16 is directly connected, Ethernet0
C   37.1.1.24 is directly connected, Serial0
R*   0.0.0.0/0 [120/3] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0

the answer is that classfulness really has nothing to do with routing
protocol behaviour, unless certain circumstances dictate. when everyone
agrees on a prefix length, i.e. when all interfaces in the RIP domain have
the same mask, all the proper routes are advertised.

remember that the RIP packet contains fields for advertised networks. each
field is 32 bits in length. there is no subnet mask information. it matters
not one iota to RIP what the advertised networks are. 37.0.0.0 fits into the
field as does 37.1.1.16 etc.

BTW, the directed broadcast addresses of each of the subnets in the table
are respectively 37.1.1.7, .15, .23, .31, .39, .47, and .55  classful
protocol or not, this is the way it works.

sorry to be so obsessive about this, but a thorough understanding of
protocol behaviour can be helpful in many circumstances. for example, I have
a problem I am working on with a customer that revolves around RIP
behaviour. I'm not going to convince them to migrate to OSPF, or even RIPv2
as a fix. I have to live within their existing constraints. My ability to
understand how RIP really works allows me to create a design that serves the
customer needs.

good learning to all

Chuck

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Ed, what you're forgetting is this:  a directed broadcast would either be
generated by a device 172.18.2.0 network that has been configured with a
subnet mask of 255.255.254.0 or by and end-system specifically trying to
reach an end-host configured as part of that subnet (for example, a
user-initiated "ping" sent to 172.18.3.255 trying to illicit a response from
all end-systems on the 172.18.2.0 /22 subnet).  If RouterB does not have an
interface directly connected to the 172.18.0.0 network, yes it will see
network 172.18.2.0 as 172.18.0.0 and to it it will think the directed
broadcast is 172.18.255.255 but why would RouterB need to GENERATE a
directed broadcast to this network?  RouterB is likely to only RECEIVE a
directed broadcast sent to 172.18.3.255 and won't CARE about the IP address
of that packet.  It takes the packet and

Re: The End of Empire [7:13829]

2001-07-25 Thread Michael L. Williams

OUch!

Mike W.

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> Yeah, they have CCIGE's, but it's only a Sylvan test now with 10
True/False
> questions...it used to be a 2-day lab exam.
>
> -Brad
>
> ""Ole Drews Jensen""  wrote in message
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> > Ha, I'd like to see that movie when it comes out :-)
> >
> > Do they have CCIGE's ? (Cisco Certified Inter-Galaxy Experts).
> >
> > Ole
> >
> > 
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:34 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: FW: The End of Empire [7:13829]
> >
> >
> > ran across this old NANOG post while cleaning up my inbox. thought
> everyone
> > might enjoy it.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> > Mikey Wilsker
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:36 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: OT: The End of Empire
> >
> >
> >   Darth Vader took two giant strides toward the immense visiscreen
> that
> > occupied the forward wall of the bridge of his flagship Imperial star
> > destroyer.  "We've got them now," he rumbled.  Whirling on the
> > technicians cowering at their consoles, Vader snapped, "Tractor beam!"
> >"Yes, Lord Vader," replied one, bending attentively to his task.
> > Then
> > he looked up hesitantly.
> >Vader gestured dramatically at the screen, indicating the fleeing
> > spacecraft.  "I want a tractor beam on that ship," he declared. "Now!"
> > The technician busied himself with switches and dials.
> >"Where's that tractor beam?" roared Vader, his voice dark with
> > menace.
> > The other technicians turned frightened eyes on their peer.  They knew
> what
> > happened when Darth Vader's instructions weren't executed instantly.
> >"The tractor beam seems to be down, sir," quavered the
technician.
> >"What do you mean down?" Vader inquired with a disturbing
silkiness
> > to
> > his voice.
> >"It's not accepting commands, sir," the technician explained.
> > Another
> > technician leaned over and examined the console.  "That's odd. The beam
> > itself is showing green," he pointed out.
> >"Yes, I know," agreed the first.
> >"But I'm not getting any acknowledgment to my 'Engage' command."
He
> > pressed a button several times to demonstrate.
> >"Maybe the network's down again," suggested a third technician.
> >"Oh, that could be," admitted the first technician.  "The network
> > might be down, Lord Vader," he informed the large black figure trembling
> > with rage.
> >
> >"What network?" Vader asked ominously.
> >The second technician jumped in.  "Since we've moved to a
> distributed
> > architecture on the Imperial star destroyers, everything is on a
network.
> > It was felt that the direct connections were too unreliable."
> >The third technician added. "The tractor beam is on one of the
> > peripherals sub networks, with the printers and the scanners. It's not
on
> > the main weapons network."
> >"Why isn't the tractor beam on the weapons network?" asked Vader,
> now
> > more puzzled than angry.
> >The technicians exchanged sheepish looks. It was embarrassing to
> have
> > to point out something so obvious to a superior. The second technician
> > cleared his throat. "Well, sir, the weapons network is a higher
priority.
> > It makes more sense to put the less commonly used systems on a separate
> > sub network that has lower QOS."
> >"QOS?" Vader queried.
> >"Hang on a second," said the first technician. "If the network is
> > down,
> > how come we're getting a green light for the tractor beam?"
> >The third technician brightened. "Ah! Maybe the console is
> retrieving
> > old MIB data and displaying that."
> >"MIB?" rumbled Vader.
> >The first technician answered "We use SNMP to monitor the network
> > elements. When the server queries the element, it stores its current
> status.
> > If the network goes down, it can't query the element anymore, and all
> > you have is the latest status in the MIB." He turned to the other
> > technicians, musing.
> >
> > "We really should have an indicator of when the last successful query
was,
> > instead of just a green or red light."
> >"Good idea," said the third technician. "I'll call tech support."
> >"Say," said the second technician. "How about if we ping the
> tractor
> > beam?
> > Let me bring up a telnet window."
> >"Telnet?" asked Vader, now obviously confused. "Pin

Re: The End of Empire [7:13829]

2001-07-25 Thread Brad Ellis

Yeah, they have CCIGE's, but it's only a Sylvan test now with 10 True/False
questions...it used to be a 2-day lab exam.

-Brad

""Ole Drews Jensen""  wrote in message
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> Ha, I'd like to see that movie when it comes out :-)
>
> Do they have CCIGE's ? (Cisco Certified Inter-Galaxy Experts).
>
> Ole
>
> 
>  Ole Drews Jensen
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>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: FW: The End of Empire [7:13829]
>
>
> ran across this old NANOG post while cleaning up my inbox. thought
everyone
> might enjoy it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
> Mikey Wilsker
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: The End of Empire
>
>
>   Darth Vader took two giant strides toward the immense visiscreen
that
> occupied the forward wall of the bridge of his flagship Imperial star
> destroyer.  "We've got them now," he rumbled.  Whirling on the
> technicians cowering at their consoles, Vader snapped, "Tractor beam!"
>"Yes, Lord Vader," replied one, bending attentively to his task.
> Then
> he looked up hesitantly.
>Vader gestured dramatically at the screen, indicating the fleeing
> spacecraft.  "I want a tractor beam on that ship," he declared. "Now!"
> The technician busied himself with switches and dials.
>"Where's that tractor beam?" roared Vader, his voice dark with
> menace.
> The other technicians turned frightened eyes on their peer.  They knew
what
> happened when Darth Vader's instructions weren't executed instantly.
>"The tractor beam seems to be down, sir," quavered the technician.
>"What do you mean down?" Vader inquired with a disturbing silkiness
> to
> his voice.
>"It's not accepting commands, sir," the technician explained.
> Another
> technician leaned over and examined the console.  "That's odd. The beam
> itself is showing green," he pointed out.
>"Yes, I know," agreed the first.
>"But I'm not getting any acknowledgment to my 'Engage' command." He
> pressed a button several times to demonstrate.
>"Maybe the network's down again," suggested a third technician.
>"Oh, that could be," admitted the first technician.  "The network
> might be down, Lord Vader," he informed the large black figure trembling
> with rage.
>
>"What network?" Vader asked ominously.
>The second technician jumped in.  "Since we've moved to a
distributed
> architecture on the Imperial star destroyers, everything is on a network.
> It was felt that the direct connections were too unreliable."
>The third technician added. "The tractor beam is on one of the
> peripherals sub networks, with the printers and the scanners. It's not on
> the main weapons network."
>"Why isn't the tractor beam on the weapons network?" asked Vader,
now
> more puzzled than angry.
>The technicians exchanged sheepish looks. It was embarrassing to
have
> to point out something so obvious to a superior. The second technician
> cleared his throat. "Well, sir, the weapons network is a higher priority.
> It makes more sense to put the less commonly used systems on a separate
> sub network that has lower QOS."
>"QOS?" Vader queried.
>"Hang on a second," said the first technician. "If the network is
> down,
> how come we're getting a green light for the tractor beam?"
>The third technician brightened. "Ah! Maybe the console is
retrieving
> old MIB data and displaying that."
>"MIB?" rumbled Vader.
>The first technician answered "We use SNMP to monitor the network
> elements. When the server queries the element, it stores its current
status.
> If the network goes down, it can't query the element anymore, and all
> you have is the latest status in the MIB." He turned to the other
> technicians, musing.
>
> "We really should have an indicator of when the last successful query was,
> instead of just a green or red light."
>"Good idea," said the third technician. "I'll call tech support."
>"Say," said the second technician. "How about if we ping the
tractor
> beam?
> Let me bring up a telnet window."
>"Telnet?" asked Vader, now obviously confused. "Ping?"
>The first technician glanced briefly at Vader, a little annoyed at
> the
> interruptions. Why couldn't this guy keep up with the service bulletins?
> "The system runs Unix, but the consoles run NT 5000," he replied with
> exaggerated patience. "You need a telnet window to ping the element."
> He turned his atten

RE: The End of Empire [7:13829]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Ha, I'd like to see that movie when it comes out :-)

Do they have CCIGE's ? (Cisco Certified Inter-Galaxy Experts).

Ole


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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: FW: The End of Empire [7:13829]


ran across this old NANOG post while cleaning up my inbox. thought everyone
might enjoy it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mikey Wilsker
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: The End of Empire


  Darth Vader took two giant strides toward the immense visiscreen that
occupied the forward wall of the bridge of his flagship Imperial star
destroyer.  "We've got them now," he rumbled.  Whirling on the
technicians cowering at their consoles, Vader snapped, "Tractor beam!"
   "Yes, Lord Vader," replied one, bending attentively to his task.
Then
he looked up hesitantly.
   Vader gestured dramatically at the screen, indicating the fleeing
spacecraft.  "I want a tractor beam on that ship," he declared. "Now!"
The technician busied himself with switches and dials.
   "Where's that tractor beam?" roared Vader, his voice dark with
menace.
The other technicians turned frightened eyes on their peer.  They knew what
happened when Darth Vader's instructions weren't executed instantly.
   "The tractor beam seems to be down, sir," quavered the technician.
   "What do you mean down?" Vader inquired with a disturbing silkiness
to
his voice.
   "It's not accepting commands, sir," the technician explained.
Another
technician leaned over and examined the console.  "That's odd. The beam
itself is showing green," he pointed out.
   "Yes, I know," agreed the first.
   "But I'm not getting any acknowledgment to my 'Engage' command." He
pressed a button several times to demonstrate.
   "Maybe the network's down again," suggested a third technician.
   "Oh, that could be," admitted the first technician.  "The network
might be down, Lord Vader," he informed the large black figure trembling
with rage.

   "What network?" Vader asked ominously.
   The second technician jumped in.  "Since we've moved to a distributed
architecture on the Imperial star destroyers, everything is on a network.
It was felt that the direct connections were too unreliable."
   The third technician added. "The tractor beam is on one of the
peripherals sub networks, with the printers and the scanners. It's not on
the main weapons network."
   "Why isn't the tractor beam on the weapons network?" asked Vader, now
more puzzled than angry.
   The technicians exchanged sheepish looks. It was embarrassing to have
to point out something so obvious to a superior. The second technician
cleared his throat. "Well, sir, the weapons network is a higher priority.
It makes more sense to put the less commonly used systems on a separate
sub network that has lower QOS."
   "QOS?" Vader queried.
   "Hang on a second," said the first technician. "If the network is
down,
how come we're getting a green light for the tractor beam?"
   The third technician brightened. "Ah! Maybe the console is retrieving
old MIB data and displaying that."
   "MIB?" rumbled Vader.
   The first technician answered "We use SNMP to monitor the network
elements. When the server queries the element, it stores its current status.
If the network goes down, it can't query the element anymore, and all
you have is the latest status in the MIB." He turned to the other
technicians, musing.

"We really should have an indicator of when the last successful query was,
instead of just a green or red light."
   "Good idea," said the third technician. "I'll call tech support."
   "Say," said the second technician. "How about if we ping the tractor
beam?
Let me bring up a telnet window."
   "Telnet?" asked Vader, now obviously confused. "Ping?"
   The first technician glanced briefly at Vader, a little annoyed at
the
interruptions. Why couldn't this guy keep up with the service bulletins?
"The system runs Unix, but the consoles run NT 5000," he replied with
exaggerated patience. "You need a telnet window to ping the element."
He turned his attention back to the screen. "That's strange. It comes back
'active'. Listen, when you get tech support tell them we can't engage
the tractor but we can ping it."
   "Right," said the third technician. "I'm still on hold."
   "Here's a thought," said the second technician. "What if we just call
the guys down at tractor control and have them engage the beam manually?"
Vader seemed to brighten up at this, and 

BGP prefix compiling [7:13828]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

This is to (hopefully) confirm that my understanding of the examples in the
BSCN book and the IRA 2nd. ed. book are correct.

If the formel looks like this:

ip prefix-list elvis permit a.b.c.d/n

It will be compiled like this:

  1)if neither "ge" nor "le" are added, only the excact prefix (n) is
allowed.

  2)if only "ge x" is added, n is ignored and an invinsible le of 32 are
added so 
prefix x thru 32 are permitted.

  3)if only "le y" is added, prefix n thru y are permitted.

  4)if both "ge x" and "le y" are added, n is ignored and prefix x thru
y are permitted.

This is to all you BGP experts out there - please comment with true or false
on the 4 statements above, and add any comments or corrections if necessary.

One last question, can the ge value be lower than the /n value?

Example : ip prefix-list elvira permit 172.16.0.0/16 ge 8

and would that allow only the prefix 172.16.0.0/8 ?

I thank you in advance,

Ole


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FW: The End of Empire [7:13829]

2001-07-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu

ran across this old NANOG post while cleaning up my inbox. thought everyone
might enjoy it.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
Mikey Wilsker
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:36 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: The End of Empire


  Darth Vader took two giant strides toward the immense visiscreen that
occupied the forward wall of the bridge of his flagship Imperial star
destroyer.  "We've got them now," he rumbled.  Whirling on the
technicians cowering at their consoles, Vader snapped, "Tractor beam!"
   "Yes, Lord Vader," replied one, bending attentively to his task.
Then
he looked up hesitantly.
   Vader gestured dramatically at the screen, indicating the fleeing
spacecraft.  "I want a tractor beam on that ship," he declared. "Now!"
The technician busied himself with switches and dials.
   "Where's that tractor beam?" roared Vader, his voice dark with
menace.
The other technicians turned frightened eyes on their peer.  They knew what
happened when Darth Vader's instructions weren't executed instantly.
   "The tractor beam seems to be down, sir," quavered the technician.
   "What do you mean down?" Vader inquired with a disturbing silkiness
to
his voice.
   "It's not accepting commands, sir," the technician explained.
Another
technician leaned over and examined the console.  "That's odd. The beam
itself is showing green," he pointed out.
   "Yes, I know," agreed the first.
   "But I'm not getting any acknowledgment to my 'Engage' command." He
pressed a button several times to demonstrate.
   "Maybe the network's down again," suggested a third technician.
   "Oh, that could be," admitted the first technician.  "The network
might be down, Lord Vader," he informed the large black figure trembling
with rage.

   "What network?" Vader asked ominously.
   The second technician jumped in.  "Since we've moved to a distributed
architecture on the Imperial star destroyers, everything is on a network.
It was felt that the direct connections were too unreliable."
   The third technician added. "The tractor beam is on one of the
peripherals sub networks, with the printers and the scanners. It's not on
the main weapons network."
   "Why isn't the tractor beam on the weapons network?" asked Vader, now
more puzzled than angry.
   The technicians exchanged sheepish looks. It was embarrassing to have
to point out something so obvious to a superior. The second technician
cleared his throat. "Well, sir, the weapons network is a higher priority.
It makes more sense to put the less commonly used systems on a separate
sub network that has lower QOS."
   "QOS?" Vader queried.
   "Hang on a second," said the first technician. "If the network is
down,
how come we're getting a green light for the tractor beam?"
   The third technician brightened. "Ah! Maybe the console is retrieving
old MIB data and displaying that."
   "MIB?" rumbled Vader.
   The first technician answered "We use SNMP to monitor the network
elements. When the server queries the element, it stores its current status.
If the network goes down, it can't query the element anymore, and all
you have is the latest status in the MIB." He turned to the other
technicians, musing.

"We really should have an indicator of when the last successful query was,
instead of just a green or red light."
   "Good idea," said the third technician. "I'll call tech support."
   "Say," said the second technician. "How about if we ping the tractor
beam?
Let me bring up a telnet window."
   "Telnet?" asked Vader, now obviously confused. "Ping?"
   The first technician glanced briefly at Vader, a little annoyed at
the
interruptions. Why couldn't this guy keep up with the service bulletins?
"The system runs Unix, but the consoles run NT 5000," he replied with
exaggerated patience. "You need a telnet window to ping the element."
He turned his attention back to the screen. "That's strange. It comes back
'active'. Listen, when you get tech support tell them we can't engage
the tractor but we can ping it."
   "Right," said the third technician. "I'm still on hold."
   "Here's a thought," said the second technician. "What if we just call
the guys down at tractor control and have them engage the beam manually?"
Vader seemed to brighten up at this, and swiveled his head from one to
another.
  "Good idea," said the first technician. He lifted his communicator and
tapped the switch several times.  "Nothing," he said.
   The second technician shook his head. "Didn't we tell them we
couldn't
do voice and data with that little bandwidth?"
   Suddenly Vader noticed the visiscreen and let out a bellow of anger.
"They're gone!" he boomed.
   The third technician looked up smiling. "Hey, I got tech support!"
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RE: ccna challenge question [7:13565]

2001-07-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu

one final belaborment of the point. ( where is Bob Vance, whose thoroughness
would be quite welcome here? )

observe the following from a lab setup. all interfaces in the pod are /29
subnets of the 37.0.0.0 network. note the RIP routes that are in the routing
table. auto summarization is turned off, but even with it turned on, there
is no effect on the routes advertised. other vendors may have different ways
of doing it.

How is it that RIP, a classful protocol, can advertise non classful subnets?

Gateway of last resort is 37.1.1.26 to network 0.0.0.0

C171.171.0.0/16 is directly connected, Loopback0
 37.0.0.0/29 is subnetted, 7 subnets
R   37.1.1.32 [120/1] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.40 [120/1] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.48 [120/2] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.0 [120/3] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
R   37.1.1.8 [120/2] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0
C   37.1.1.16 is directly connected, Ethernet0
C   37.1.1.24 is directly connected, Serial0
R*   0.0.0.0/0 [120/3] via 37.1.1.26, 00:00:10, Serial0

the answer is that classfulness really has nothing to do with routing
protocol behaviour, unless certain circumstances dictate. when everyone
agrees on a prefix length, i.e. when all interfaces in the RIP domain have
the same mask, all the proper routes are advertised.

remember that the RIP packet contains fields for advertised networks. each
field is 32 bits in length. there is no subnet mask information. it matters
not one iota to RIP what the advertised networks are. 37.0.0.0 fits into the
field as does 37.1.1.16 etc.

BTW, the directed broadcast addresses of each of the subnets in the table
are respectively 37.1.1.7, .15, .23, .31, .39, .47, and .55  classful
protocol or not, this is the way it works.

sorry to be so obsessive about this, but a thorough understanding of
protocol behaviour can be helpful in many circumstances. for example, I have
a problem I am working on with a customer that revolves around RIP
behaviour. I'm not going to convince them to migrate to OSPF, or even RIPv2
as a fix. I have to live within their existing constraints. My ability to
understand how RIP really works allows me to create a design that serves the
customer needs.

good learning to all

Chuck

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Leigh Anne Chisholm
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Subject: RE: ccna challenge question [7:13565]


Ed, what you're forgetting is this:  a directed broadcast would either be
generated by a device 172.18.2.0 network that has been configured with a
subnet mask of 255.255.254.0 or by and end-system specifically trying to
reach an end-host configured as part of that subnet (for example, a
user-initiated "ping" sent to 172.18.3.255 trying to illicit a response from
all end-systems on the 172.18.2.0 /22 subnet).  If RouterB does not have an
interface directly connected to the 172.18.0.0 network, yes it will see
network 172.18.2.0 as 172.18.0.0 and to it it will think the directed
broadcast is 172.18.255.255 but why would RouterB need to GENERATE a
directed broadcast to this network?  RouterB is likely to only RECEIVE a
directed broadcast sent to 172.18.3.255 and won't CARE about the IP address
of that packet.  It takes the packet and forwards it to the 172.18.0.0
network.

As a side note, if RouterB DOES have an interface that is part of the
172.18.0.0 network, that interface must be configured with the same subnet
mask as the 172.18.2.0 network as variable-length subnet masking is not
supported by RIP.  In other words, the subnet mask used in conjunction with
any subnet from the 172.18.0.0 network must be configured with the subnet
mask 255.255.252.0.  Then RouterB would know that 172.18.3.255 is the
directed broadcast address.

Let's look at the question again and look it from a different perspective:

Using classful assumptions, what is the directed broadcast address for
172.18.2.0 with the mask 255.255.254.0?

Now put that on a PC.  What will the directed broadcast address be if this
was on a PC?   RouterB really doesn't even enter into the picture.

There's really nothing wrong with the question, if you understand the
concept of classful and classless routing.


  -- Leigh Anne

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Ed Moss
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:30 AM
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Subject: Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565]


Everyone has some good ideas on this...  and one of the replies made me
rethink my previous answer Look at it from the aspect of the ROUTER...
assuming that this is implemented on a router.

An interface with the address of 172.18.2.0 and a mask of 255.255.254.0
will send directed broadcasts to 172.18.3.255.  Answer B is correct.

However the above router sends a RIP version 1 update (which is classless)
to router B.  Router B gets the router 

CCDA [7:13826]

2001-07-25 Thread Albert Y. Pak

I got some questions regarding to this exam. Currently, I passed BSCN and
BCMSN 2 weeks ago. And I am planning to take CID as soon as I am done with
CCNP. Is CCDA exam hard? Will I be able to do this right now without
spending too much time to study? I am in the networking field almost 4
years.
Thanks!!!
Albert




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Re: BGP Bandwidth [7:13817]

2001-07-25 Thread Richard Chang

You could of course set it up so that you will enjoy the full bandwidth of
all 3 T1s lines with redundancy.

Run a search on BGP multihoming on Cisco's site or Groupstudy archives. That
should give you enough examples to start with.

Richard

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> Hi all
> I am trying to implement BGP.
> I used to have 2T1 lines going straight to Qwest (isp). Now I want to
> install another T1 line going to AT&T (isp) as a back-up line.
> Now my question is what bandwidth will I have?
> Will I have 4.5M bandwidth (2xT1 + T1) together? or Will I have only 3M
> bandwidth (2xT1) from Qwest because T1 going to AT&T is used as a back-up?
> It would be better if I could use extra T1 not only as a back up but also
as
> an additional bandwidth.
>
> Your input will be appreciated.
>
> JP




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Calculating Collision % [7:13824]

2001-07-25 Thread Mike Fears

Group, What is the best way to calculate collision %
on a 10BaseT ethernet port on a Catalyst 5000/5500?

Now, I have my own formula, and it is what I came up
with after looking at CCO for the way a Catalyst 5000
counts collisions. According to Cisco, it appears
that:

a single collision is only 1 collision (does this
include the multi and excessive collisions?)   
a multiple collision is when the same transmitted
frame encounters more than one collision (So, if a
frame encounters 2 or more (Or is it 2-15?)collisions
it will increment the counter up by 1.
and excessive collisions are collisions of more than
16 in a row with the same tx frame.

So, is it as simple as using the total tx frames
(uni,multi,broadcasts) / single collisions x100?

Or do you have to do something like what I came up
with, which is

single collisions + (multi collisions X 3) + excessive
collisions X 16) + Late Collisions / Total tx frames X
100 

Multiple collisions are somewhere from 2-15 and "3"
was chosen as a guess on ports with no excessive
collisions. Most of the ports (about 200) that
encountered multiple collisions did not detect any
excessive collisions. Only about 30 saw both. On
those, I chose "5". The good news is that I have
mostly full-duplex ports, so I don't have to worry
about those. 


Thanks,
Phyrz
CCNP


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RE: New Written Exam Format ? [7:13812]

2001-07-25 Thread Rich Mallory

This question was asked at the CCIE Networkers session in Chicago recently.
The answer given was "sometime around October 1st". We were also told that
it will have 50 more questions than the current exam and last 3 hours.



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Given the new format for the routing and switching lab, does anybody know
when the NEW written exam will come into effect. I ask based on the info.
below from

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/new_format.html#12

"The  new CCIE format will move these basic tasks into an extended
qualification exam and Cisco's other
certifications, thus freeing the candidate's time for the more advanced
CCIE skills."

thx
patrick




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Re: Hello All [7:13821]

2001-07-25 Thread Michael L. Williams

WELCOME and enjoy!

Mike W.

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> I have heard this list from a friend and I believe it will help me to get
> Routing & Switching CCIE as well as my general networking knowledge.
> Let me introduce myself a little bit: My name is Mustafa Tinmaz. I am
> working as a TAC engineer for Cisco Systems. I guess I cannot help that
nuch
> regarding data but can provide input for voice questions that you may have
> as I am supporting VoIP technology in Cisco.
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Hello All [7:13821]

2001-07-25 Thread Mustafa For CCIE

Greetings to everybody!
I have heard this list from a friend and I believe it will help me to get 
Routing & Switching CCIE as well as my general networking knowledge.
Let me introduce myself a little bit: My name is Mustafa Tinmaz. I am 
working as a TAC engineer for Cisco Systems. I guess I cannot help that nuch 
regarding data but can provide input for voice questions that you may have 
as I am supporting VoIP technology in Cisco.
happy computing!!!
mustafa

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OT- ISDN Simulator for sale [7:13820]

2001-07-25 Thread Nathan Cruz

Hi, I have a Merge 2000A ISDN simulator that I no longer need. I though I
would give the list first crack at it before I put it on ebay.

It has both S/T and U interfaces so you don't need NT1's which is nice. You
can practice with different switch types and features such as caller ID. It
come's with the cables, keypad, and manual.

The first $1500 or best offer gets it. If you have any questions you can
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RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Actually, I should have made the point that I don't particularly trust the
figures - as Fred says, there's no source given.  But the ratio of CCIEs to
CCDPs doesn't surprise me.  I also know people who did the CCDP shortly
after the CCNP, but that seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon - earlier,
most people on this list seemed to be aiming at CCNP then CCIE, and
ignoring the CCDP.

And as far as research papers without sources - haven't you come across the
belief held by some (hopefully not many on this list) that 'I read it on
the net so it must be true'?  ;-)
A modernisation of 'The newspaper said so - it must be true'!

JMcL
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Actually, the CCDP is 2 tests away from the CCNP (CCDA and CID).

 :-)

Ole

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I know of many people, including myself, who first pursued the CCNP and
soon

after got the CCDP. After getting the CCNP, the CCDP is only one test away,
so it makes sense to put that extra couple of study weeks in for another
certification.

I also have a hard time believing a set of statistics that has no source.
Do

you think people write research papers without citing their sources?? Who
would believe them??

Fred


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>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:42:08 -0400
>
>Think about how long the CCIE has been available.
>Think about how long the CCDP has been available.
>Think about how many people on this list concentrate on getting their
CCNP,
>compared to how many are concentrating on the CCDP.
>Still find it hard to believe?
>I expect the proportion will increase over time.
>
>JMcL
>-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 25/07/2001
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>
>
>"Fred Danson" @groupstudy.com on 24/07/2001
>11:56:37 pm
>
>Please respond to "Fred Danson"
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>
>
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>
>
>Subject:  RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>
>
>I find it very hard to believe that, in the United States, there are only
>1.4826 CCDPs for every CCIE. I would imagine that there would be atleast
10
>CCDPs per CCIE.
>
>
> >From: "Christopher Supino"
> >Reply-To: "Christopher Supino"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
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> >Interesting. What is the source of this info?
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >FYI.  Breakdown by certification through May 2001
> >
> >  US/CAN EMEA Asia/Pac Americas Japan
> >CCIE 2,876  1,940  755 135  267
> >CCNA87,72426,69434,231 1,972  23,689
> >CCNP20,7789,633  9,244   40723,689
> >CCDA14,8256,580  3,705   6521,038
> >CCDP4,264  3,911  1,449   94  245
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Re: Can 2501 handle two T1s [7:13733]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh, not necessarily.
For various ugly reasons a couple of years ago we had a couple of routers
(not 2500s) that were rather severely overloaded.  They ran quite happily
up to about 98% CPU - a few dropped packets but not too many, then they
would become overwhelmed by incoming packets, a significant number of
packets would be dropped, sessions would drop and try to reconnect, and all
hell would break loose.
But they ran without obvious problems at well above 90% CPU.

YMMV.  I do *NOT* recommend deliberately letting routers run at 90% CPU.
Only try this at home - it's truly not pretty on a production network :-(

JMcL
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Hi

If you are just routing you should be fine. However if you are doing NAT,
ACL, policy based routing or anything else that is CPU consuming you are
likely to have some problems. Keep in mind that a Cisco router will start
dropping packets at about 70% CPU and be totally brain dead at about 90%
CPU.

HTH
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> I know no one in the world would put two T1s on a 2501 router.  But I
> maybe doing this soon.  I am currently using a 7200 router for my two T1s
> but I feel like taking it offline and sell it to pay for my ECP1 and my
> trip to San Jose for the lab test.  So I'm going take out my 2501 and see
> if it can handle two T1s which is constantly pushing at 2.8-3.0 mbps all
> the time.  Has anyone done this before?  Am I going to blow up this
> router?  Will the cpu utilization go skyrocket?  Thanks for any advice.
>
> -Frank




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BGP Bandwidth [7:13817]

2001-07-25 Thread Jeongwoo Park

Hi all
I am trying to implement BGP.
I used to have 2T1 lines going straight to Qwest (isp). Now I want to
install another T1 line going to AT&T (isp) as a back-up line.
Now my question is what bandwidth will I have?
Will I have 4.5M bandwidth (2xT1 + T1) together? or Will I have only 3M
bandwidth (2xT1) from Qwest because T1 going to AT&T is used as a back-up?
It would be better if I could use extra T1 not only as a back up but also as
an additional bandwidth.

Your input will be appreciated.

JP




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RE: New Written Exam Format ? [7:13812]

2001-07-25 Thread Dennis Laganiere

It says there is going to be a new format for the CCIE Written, but they
have not announced anything about it so far, and they probably won't until
the lab changes finish being implemented.  What this means to me is that
there will be at least six months while they develop and beta test the exam.
Also, it says right on the page that the existing exam will continue to be
accepted for the lab for at least the next year.

If you are anywhere near taking the written, I would advice taking the
current version.  Between the books, whitepapers and practice tests (like
boson), you have a much better chance then when the new test comes out and
there is no prep material available.

Just my $.02

--- Dennis




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Subject: New Written Exam Format ? [7:13812]

Given the new format for the routing and switching lab, does anybody
know 
when the NEW written exam will come into effect. I ask based on the
info. 
below from

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/new_format.html
#12

"The  new CCIE format will move these basic tasks into an extended 
qualification exam and Cisco's other
certifications, thus freeing the candidate's time for the more advanced 
CCIE skills."

thx
patrick




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640-509 [7:13815]

2001-07-25 Thread Ntia Yinka

Hi,

I'm preparing for the CCNP foundation Exam 640-509.

Considering the fact that it's a combination of the other three exams i.e
640-503, 4 and 5. Can anyone help me with the following:

1. What is the time limit for the exam?
2. How many questions (I know there are three sections)
3. What's the passing score.

This would assist in my preparation.

Thank you.



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Re: bgp [7:13786]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Dec 15,  9:16am, "Bill Carter" wrote:
} SH Wesson wrote:
} 
} > What is the recommended router if I wanted to run bgp on my dual
internet
} > connection.  I currently have a 2651 and will be upgrading it to 128MB
but
} > am not sure if that's enough to run bgp considering the size of the bgp 
} > routing table. Thank you.
}
} I would run a 3600 with a minimum of 256MB.  3620 looks good.  You could 
} try the 2600 with 128MB, but long term the 3620 would be better.

 I suggest you actually do some research before making product
recommendations in the future.  The 2651 is as fast as the 3620, comes
with more slots, comes with two built-in fast ethernet ports, can
handle a maximum of 128M RAM.  The 3620 doesn't have any built in
ports, can only handle a maximum of 64M RAM, and the cost of a 3620
plus ethernet ports is considerably more then the cost of a 265x.
Between the two, the 265x is obviously a much better deal.  At this
point, I'm not sure there is any reason for the 3620 to even exist.  To
get 256M of RAM, you need to go to a 3660, which greatly increases your
cost.

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match ip route-source without ACL? [7:13813]

2001-07-25 Thread Richard Chang

Hello,

I got some questions when using the "match ip route-source" command and
would appreciate any input:

1. I was trying to set the metric for all the igrp routed redistributed into
ospf t0 2600 using a route-map. Originally the route 12.0.0.0 showed up with
a metric of 20.

r3#i 12.0.0.0
Routing entry for 12.0.0.0/8
  Known via "ospf 1", distance 110, metric 20, type extern 2, forward metric
64
  Redistributing via ospf 1
  Last update from 135.1.20.4 on Serial0, 00:26:01 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 135.1.20.4, from 135.1.14.4, 00:26:01 ago, via Serial0
  Route metric is 20, traffic share count is 1

2. The I added a route map igrp-ospf and applied it to the ospf
redistribution process.

route-map igrp-ospf permit 10
 match ip route-source 15
 set metric 2600

r4(config-router)# redistribute igrp 1 subnets route-map igrp-ospf

3. I had thought that I have will have to add an access-list 15 before I see
the metric changes, surprisingly, I noticed that the metric changed right
away without a ACL 15...

r3#i 12.0.0.0
Routing entry for 12.0.0.0/8
  Known via "ospf 1", distance 110, metric 2600, type extern 2, forward
metric 64
  Redistributing via ospf 1
  Last update from 135.1.20.4 on Serial0, 00:00:13 ago
  Routing Descriptor Blocks:
  * 135.1.20.4, from 135.1.14.4, 00:00:13 ago, via Serial0
  Route metric is 2600, traffic share count is 1

4. According to cisco's site, the usage for match ip route-source says "To
redistribute routes that have been advertised by routers and access servers
at the address specified by the access list". It is kind of vague and
doesn't explain why I can change the metric without specify ACL...

Any ideas?

Thanks

Richard




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New Written Exam Format ? [7:13812]

2001-07-25 Thread Patrick Sweeney

Given the new format for the routing and switching lab, does anybody know 
when the NEW written exam will come into effect. I ask based on the info. 
below from

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/625/ccie/ccie_program/new_format.html#12

"The  new CCIE format will move these basic tasks into an extended 
qualification exam and Cisco's other
certifications, thus freeing the candidate's time for the more advanced 
CCIE skills."

thx
patrick




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Re: permit ip any any [7:13686]

2001-07-25 Thread Tony van Ree

Hi,

It would depend on where you put the access-list.  For example if you put
this on the WAN side of your router without specifying "incoming" in the
access-group statement the it would surely fail.

For this access-list to work in an outgoing direction it would need to be on
the Ethernet.

My guess is that this is the issue in otherwords the access-list is facing
the wrong way when applied.

Just a thought,

Teunis,
Hobart, Tasmania
Australia


On Tuesday, July 24, 2001 at 10:41:44 PM, Guy Russell wrote:

> Im not sure what you mean by shutting down the ports, but dont forget the
> implicit deny that is not seen... denying all
> 
> can you access the web or mail services etc... on that machine
> 
> Is it applied to the correct interface..
> 
> Is S1 closer to the destination, or source.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Brandis" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:12 PM
> Subject: permit ip any any [7:13686]
> 
> 
> > Hi ya,
> >
> > another ACL question
> >
> > I have a pretty simple ACL at the moment
> >
> > ip access list 110
> >
> > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 25
> > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 80
> > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 25
> > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 53
> > permit udp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 53
> >
> >
> > I put this on the the s1 int (run a stub network) in. However, the
> > second I apply this it actually shuts these ports down, like the
> > opposite of what I thought was to happen. I changed the direction of the
> > ACL but it did not effect the end result.
> > Do I have to use the permit ip any any  now, would that not go against
> > the use of permitting only certain ports...
> >
> > Thanks for your help...
> >
> > John
> > Sydney Australia
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Re: Access-List and Route-Map Cache??? [7:13808]

2001-07-25 Thread John Neiberger

I believe you're referring to 'ip route-cache policy'.   It may not be
exactly what you're looking for, but it's the closest thing I can think
of off the top of my head.  It allows interfaces with policy routing to
be fast switched.

HTH,
John

>>> "Lupi, Guy"  7/25/01 4:05:12 PM >>>
I have heard that there is a command to tell the router to cache access
list
and route map entries so that all packets don't have to be process
switched
when they go through the acl.  Does anyone know what the command is?
Thanks.




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ISDN doubt [7:13809]

2001-07-25 Thread Leonardo Borda

Hi!

The "isdn answer1 [called-party-number][:subaddress]" command must be
configured where? at the calling router or the called router. I mean, let4s
say that I want to connect to other ISDN party. Do I need to configure this
in my router or at the router called?

thanks!
Leonardo Borda




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Access-List and Route-Map Cache??? [7:13808]

2001-07-25 Thread Lupi, Guy

I have heard that there is a command to tell the router to cache access list
and route map entries so that all packets don't have to be process switched
when they go through the acl.  Does anyone know what the command is?
Thanks.




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RE: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

No, not permit .240 - .255, but .241 to .255, or in other words (numbers)
deny .0 to 240.

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 3:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


No, Solution2 is correct. 
The objective was to permit x.x.240-255.0-255 per the original message :
>What mask would be used if you want to create an
>access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
>128.252.240.0) would be blocked
>pls support with explanation,

You can check it with the subnet calculator from B0s0n Software.

-ejay

-Original Message-
From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:23 PM
To: 'Hire, Ejay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


solution2; will permit 1-240 range and the deny statement will deny the rest
thats opposite

to get a wild mask
we put higher minus lower

 255.255.255.255
 255.255.240. 0
   0  015   255

so the router will permit 1-240 instead

-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


Objective:  
Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0

Solution 1:
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 128.252.0-127.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 128.252.128-191.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 128.252.192-223.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 128.252.224-239.0-255
access-list 1 permit any Allows all other traffic to
pass.

Solution 2:
access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits 128.252.240-255.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic from 128.252 that
is not permitted by the previous line
access-list 1 permit any

Notes:
Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will result in less
processor utilization in most scenarios.

-Ejay



-Original Message-
From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: access list.. [7:13564]


What mask would be used if you want to create an
access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0) would be blocked
pls support with explanation,




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RE: Diff b/w cables [7:13741]

2001-07-25 Thread Ted Dronen

You may find this white paper useful.

http://www.microtest.com/omniscanner/cat6_why.pdf




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How many IPX Sap's do you have?? [7:13805]

2001-07-25 Thread Bill Carter

I work in a large Novell network.  We are having "fun" with SAPs.  The 
network guys are banging on the Server Guys to convert to all IP Netware 
5.X.  Currently we are at 4000 SAP's.  I'm curious if anyone has more SAPs.

Bill

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RE: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

No, Solution2 is correct. 
The objective was to permit x.x.240-255.0-255 per the original message :
>What mask would be used if you want to create an
>access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
>128.252.240.0) would be blocked
>pls support with explanation,

You can check it with the subnet calculator from B0s0n Software.

-ejay

-Original Message-
From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:23 PM
To: 'Hire, Ejay'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


solution2; will permit 1-240 range and the deny statement will deny the rest
thats opposite

to get a wild mask
we put higher minus lower

 255.255.255.255
 255.255.240. 0
   0  015   255

so the router will permit 1-240 instead

-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


Objective:  
Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0

Solution 1:
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 128.252.0-127.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 128.252.128-191.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 128.252.192-223.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 128.252.224-239.0-255
access-list 1 permit any Allows all other traffic to
pass.

Solution 2:
access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits 128.252.240-255.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic from 128.252 that
is not permitted by the previous line
access-list 1 permit any

Notes:
Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will result in less
processor utilization in most scenarios.

-Ejay



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: access list.. [7:13564]


What mask would be used if you want to create an
access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0) would be blocked
pls support with explanation,




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RE: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I am not sure why this discussion is starting all over a day or two after it
was done, but anyway - your answer is incorrect. Please see the explanation
below (again).

>

Let's take it line by line:


ip access-list 1 deny 128.252.240.0 0.0.0.255

Third Octet:

Address 240  
Wildcard0    

Since all bits in the wildcard are 0, they must all match with the address,
so only one address will be included here = 240.


ip access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255

Third Octet:

Address 240  
Wildcard15   

Here the first four bits in the wildcard are 0, so they must match. The last
four bits are 1, so they don't care. So, you will have from   thru
  or 240 to 255.


ip access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255

Third Octet:

Address 0    
Wildcard255  

None of the wildcard bits are 0, so this whole value don't care. It can be
from 0 to 255.


ip access-list 1 permit any


What is important here, is that an access-list is read from the top and down
until a match is found, and THEN IT EXITS. So if it meats a match, it will
not check the rest of the list.

Let's try to run this list with 0 thru 255.

In the first line, 240 is denied. Now we have 0 thru 239 and 241 thru 255
left.

In the second line, 241 thru 255 is permitted. Now we have 0 thru 239 left.

In the third line, 0 thru 239 is denied. We have none left.

Hth,

Ole

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deny range 128.252.0.0-128.252.240.0
permit all others

access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.240.255
access-list 1 permit any


- Original Message -
From: Farhan Ahmed 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


> solution2; will permit 1-240 range and the deny statement will deny the
rest
> thats opposite
>
> to get a wild mask
> we put higher minus lower
>
>  255.255.255.255
>  255.255.240. 0
>0  015   255
>
> so the router will permit 1-240 instead
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
> To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]
>
>
> Objective:
> Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
> 128.252.240.0
>
> Solution 1:
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 128.252.0-127.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 128.252.128-191.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 128.252.192-223.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 128.252.224-239.0-255
> access-list 1 permit any Allows all other traffic to
> pass.
>
> Solution 2:
> access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits
128.252.240-255.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic from 128.252
that
> is not permitted by the previous line
> access-list 1 permit any
>
> Notes:
> Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will result in less
> processor utilization in most scenarios.
>
> -Ejay
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: access list.. [7:13564]
>
>
> What mask would be used if you want to create an
> access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
> 128.252.240.0) would be blocked
> pls support with explanation,
>
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RE: help problem with cisco 2620. [7:13798]

2001-07-25 Thread Daniel Cotts

The Cisco TAC 800-553-2447 is the place to go. Tell them the serial number
and they can determine if it is covered by a service contract. In any case
they can get it fixed. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Schnarrs, Craig A. (AAS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:56 PM
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> Subject: help problem with cisco 2620. [7:13798]
> 
> 
> I dont know if this is the right list or not if not please 
> direct me to the
> right list,
> 
> 
> I have a cisco 2620 router that a coworker of mine has 
> botched up, and i was
> wondering if i could get some help here.
> 
> here is the story, the guy was supposed to update the boot 
> roms, simple
> enough right? anyways here is what happened
> 
> 
> the 1/4 inch square chip, in socket U9 which is located in 
> the lower right
> hand corner of the 2620 just two the right of the two dimm 
> slots was removed
> and somehow the pins got broken off.
> 
> my question is where can i get a new chip for socket U9 on a 
> 2620, the chip
> had the following info on it
> 
> w2
> 17-4163-03
> 05/99
> 
> I dont know what this chip does or where to get a new one, 
> please help as
> now the router doesnt boot at all
> 
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Re: Just passed 640-503 [7:13485]

2001-07-25 Thread Jianfeng Wang

I noticed that sypress ccnp 503 routing book has dropped all wan portion in
403. Is that
mean the new test of 503 don't have wan questions? Thanks in advance for
your advice.

Preston Kilburn wrote:

> Hey man, congradulations on that.
> -P.Kil

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Re: A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789]

2001-07-25 Thread Jonathan Hays

Thanks Enid. And thank Lorne for us.

It is unfortunately rare that I read a post on this forum that is so well
articulated,
polite, and sensible as yours is.

Thanks again,

Jonathan Hays

Enid Sorkowitz wrote:

> I am posting this per Lorne Braddock's request.  Please don't directly
> respond back to me or Lorne because we simply can't reply to everyone
> and don't want to appear disrespectful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Enid Sorkowitz
> Manager, Customer Service
> CCIE Program
>
>

>
> The CCIE program team at Cisco Systems, Inc. recently announced a
> revised lab exam format and that sparked a good deal of discussion on
> this study group alias.  I personally do not belong to the alias but one
> particular message was brought to my attention because it was not only
> inaccurate, it was potentially damaging.  Someone posted what they
> represented as being valid test score results achieved by Phil Remaker
> and Bruce Caslow during their voluntary review of the our new CCIE lab
> exam format.  Those were NOT valid test scores so the information posted
> by this individual was not only inaccurate and inappropriate, it was
> misleading and had the potential of professionally damaging the two
> individuals he was attributing the scores to.
>
> Because I do not personally belong to this forum, I elected to contact
> the individual who posted the misinformation to make him aware of the
> real facts.  I was careful to explain that I had no problem with
> individuals expressing their personal point of view but, posting
> inappropriate, inaccurate and damaging information about someone else
> was in no ones best interests.  I gave him the facts and asked him to
> post a clarification.  By doing so, he would correct the records, gain
> personal credibility and send a clear signal that facts and not rhetoric
> are important.  He assured me he would consider my request but, for
> reasons known only to him, he apparently decided to let the
> misinformation stand.  I will not.
>
> I am the person who approached Bruce Caslow and Phil Remaker with the
> request that they evaluate our new CCIE lab exam format.  I approached
> them along with a couple of other Internet notables because of their
> reputations and the industry wide credibility they possess.  Both Bruce
> and Phil welcomed the opportunity to conduct such an evaluation because
> they sincerely care about the ongoing reputation and success of the CCIE
> certification program.  Both men willingly donated their time, and good
> names, to this evaluation.  They were also willing to document their
> findings and make them available to the interested public.  In my
> opinion, their's is the kind of activism and involvement that is
> beneficial to all who are and aspire to be CCIE certified.
>
> Bruce and Phil were asked for their opinion on the test's relevance,
> degree of challenge, clarity and overall quality.  I wanted their
> opinion as to whether this test set the proper standard of excellence
> for a CCIE level certification exam.  Was it as good or better than it's
> predecessor?  I told both of them that I did not expect, or want, them
> to take the lab exam for scoring purposes.  It was the new lab exam
> format I wanted evaluated, not them.  The analogy is as if I was asking
> a world class marathoner to jog a new course I mapped out to see if it
> suitable for world class record setting purposes.  Is the course
> challenging enough, is it fair, does it test each athlete thoroughly?
> That's what I wanted their opinion on.  Neither Bruce nor Phil studied
> or prepared in any way other than to clear their calender for the day.
> Of the two of them, Phil was the only one to even mention a score and he
> did so in a self deprecating way.  Bottom line, no valid scores were
> tallied or posted.  No score should be attributed to either one of them.
>
> Lorne Braddock
> Sr. Manager, CCIE Programs
> Cisco Systems
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Re: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Jeremy Wright

deny range 128.252.0.0-128.252.240.0
permit all others

access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.240.255
access-list 1 permit any


- Original Message -
From: Farhan Ahmed 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:35 PM
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


> solution2; will permit 1-240 range and the deny statement will deny the
rest
> thats opposite
>
> to get a wild mask
> we put higher minus lower
>
>  255.255.255.255
>  255.255.240. 0
>0  015   255
>
> so the router will permit 1-240 instead
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
> To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]
>
>
> Objective:
> Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
> 128.252.240.0
>
> Solution 1:
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 128.252.0-127.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 128.252.128-191.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 128.252.192-223.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 128.252.224-239.0-255
> access-list 1 permit any Allows all other traffic to
> pass.
>
> Solution 2:
> access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits
128.252.240-255.0-255
> access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic from 128.252
that
> is not permitted by the previous line
> access-list 1 permit any
>
> Notes:
> Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will result in less
> processor utilization in most scenarios.
>
> -Ejay
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Farhan Ahmed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: access list.. [7:13564]
>
>
> What mask would be used if you want to create an
> access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
> 128.252.240.0) would be blocked
> pls support with explanation,
>
> [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream
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help problem with cisco 2620. [7:13798]

2001-07-25 Thread Schnarrs, Craig A. (AAS)

I dont know if this is the right list or not if not please direct me to the
right list,


I have a cisco 2620 router that a coworker of mine has botched up, and i was
wondering if i could get some help here.

here is the story, the guy was supposed to update the boot roms, simple
enough right? anyways here is what happened


the 1/4 inch square chip, in socket U9 which is located in the lower right
hand corner of the 2620 just two the right of the two dimm slots was removed
and somehow the pins got broken off.

my question is where can i get a new chip for socket U9 on a 2620, the chip
had the following info on it

w2
17-4163-03
05/99

I dont know what this chip does or where to get a new one, please help as
now the router doesnt boot at all

please reply to 

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thanks in advance!! 
I appreciate your help




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Re: bgp [7:13786]

2001-07-25 Thread John Neiberger

Are you planning on accepting full routes from both providers?  Have you
considered only accepting customer routes from them?  I'm not sure, but
I think 128MB would handle the full table from two providers, but it may
not be necessary depending on what you're trying to accomplish.

In our case, I accept customer routes only from two providers which
amounts to about 35,000 routes from one and 6000 from the other.  I then
tweaked some static default routes to help even things out a bit.  This
is all on a 3640 with 128MB of DRAM and I've got *plenty* of room left. 


As far as processing goes you should be fine.  This 3640 is probably
overkill.  It hardly knows it's turned on!  :-)

HTH,
John

>>> "SH Wesson"  7/25/01 11:57:06 AM >>>
What is the recommended router if I wanted to run bgp on my dual
internet 
connection.  I currently have a 2651 and will be upgrading it to 128MB
but 
am not sure if that's enough to run bgp considering the size of the bgp

routing table. Thank you.

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RE: Can 2501 handle two T1s [7:13733]

2001-07-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu

for proof of this, issue a "debug all" command on a production router and
watch the fun begin ;->


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Subject: Re: Can 2501 handle two T1s [7:13733]


Hi

If you are just routing you should be fine. However if you are doing NAT,
ACL, policy based routing or anything else that is CPU consuming you are
likely to have some problems. Keep in mind that a Cisco router will start
dropping packets at about 70% CPU and be totally brain dead at about 90%
CPU.

HTH
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> Hey guys,
> I know no one in the world would put two T1s on a 2501 router.  But I
> maybe doing this soon.  I am currently using a 7200 router for my two T1s
> but I feel like taking it offline and sell it to pay for my ECP1 and my
> trip to San Jose for the lab test.  So I'm going take out my 2501 and see
> if it can handle two T1s which is constantly pushing at 2.8-3.0 mbps all
> the time.  Has anyone done this before?  Am I going to blow up this
> router?  Will the cpu utilization go skyrocket?  Thanks for any advice.
>
> -Frank




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Re: A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789]

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Russell

Well, I would be interrested to know what their findings were... Is it more
challenging? is it up to par???

This would end several discussions about if the CCIE certification was going
to be depreciated because of this new lab format, and it does not sound like
it will...

I wonder where these records are? He said make them public...



- Original Message -
From: Enid Sorkowitz 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:21 PM
Subject: A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789]


> I am posting this per Lorne Braddock's request.  Please don't directly
> respond back to me or Lorne because we simply can't reply to everyone
> and don't want to appear disrespectful.
>
> Regards,
>
> Enid Sorkowitz
> Manager, Customer Service
> CCIE Program
>
> --
--
>
> The CCIE program team at Cisco Systems, Inc. recently announced a
> revised lab exam format and that sparked a good deal of discussion on
> this study group alias.  I personally do not belong to the alias but one
> particular message was brought to my attention because it was not only
> inaccurate, it was potentially damaging.  Someone posted what they
> represented as being valid test score results achieved by Phil Remaker
> and Bruce Caslow during their voluntary review of the our new CCIE lab
> exam format.  Those were NOT valid test scores so the information posted
> by this individual was not only inaccurate and inappropriate, it was
> misleading and had the potential of professionally damaging the two
> individuals he was attributing the scores to.
>
> Because I do not personally belong to this forum, I elected to contact
> the individual who posted the misinformation to make him aware of the
> real facts.  I was careful to explain that I had no problem with
> individuals expressing their personal point of view but, posting
> inappropriate, inaccurate and damaging information about someone else
> was in no ones best interests.  I gave him the facts and asked him to
> post a clarification.  By doing so, he would correct the records, gain
> personal credibility and send a clear signal that facts and not rhetoric
> are important.  He assured me he would consider my request but, for
> reasons known only to him, he apparently decided to let the
> misinformation stand.  I will not.
>
> I am the person who approached Bruce Caslow and Phil Remaker with the
> request that they evaluate our new CCIE lab exam format.  I approached
> them along with a couple of other Internet notables because of their
> reputations and the industry wide credibility they possess.  Both Bruce
> and Phil welcomed the opportunity to conduct such an evaluation because
> they sincerely care about the ongoing reputation and success of the CCIE
> certification program.  Both men willingly donated their time, and good
> names, to this evaluation.  They were also willing to document their
> findings and make them available to the interested public.  In my
> opinion, their's is the kind of activism and involvement that is
> beneficial to all who are and aspire to be CCIE certified.
>
> Bruce and Phil were asked for their opinion on the test's relevance,
> degree of challenge, clarity and overall quality.  I wanted their
> opinion as to whether this test set the proper standard of excellence
> for a CCIE level certification exam.  Was it as good or better than it's
> predecessor?  I told both of them that I did not expect, or want, them
> to take the lab exam for scoring purposes.  It was the new lab exam
> format I wanted evaluated, not them.  The analogy is as if I was asking
> a world class marathoner to jog a new course I mapped out to see if it
> suitable for world class record setting purposes.  Is the course
> challenging enough, is it fair, does it test each athlete thoroughly?
> That's what I wanted their opinion on.  Neither Bruce nor Phil studied
> or prepared in any way other than to clear their calender for the day.
> Of the two of them, Phil was the only one to even mention a score and he
> did so in a self deprecating way.  Bottom line, no valid scores were
> tallied or posted.  No score should be attributed to either one of them.
>
> Lorne Braddock
> Sr. Manager, CCIE Programs
> Cisco Systems




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RE: Card Deck question [7:13787]

2001-07-25 Thread Mark Rose

Cards are great very comprehensive. Had no problem with ordering. Got them
in time frame he stated.

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Antonin Kral
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:11 PM
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Subject: Card Deck question [7:13787]


Hi all,

  does anybody have any experience with http://www.franck.com/ccxx.htm ?
Is really so helpfull and is ordering safe?

Thanx,

  Antonin




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Re: bgp [7:13786]

2001-07-25 Thread Bill Carter

I would run a 3600 with a minimum of 256MB.  3620 looks good.  You could 
try the 2600 with 128MB, but long term the 3620 would be better.

SH Wesson wrote:

> What is the recommended router if I wanted to run bgp on my dual internet 
> connection.  I currently have a 2651 and will be upgrading it to 128MB but 
> am not sure if that's enough to run bgp considering the size of the bgp 
> routing table. Thank you.
> 
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Cisco VoIP dial in demo [7:13793]

2001-07-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu

One of the Cisco account managers with whom I work circulated information
about a Cisco dial in VoIP demo. the way it works is that you call a number,
choose from a menu, and you can hear VoIP, VoATM, and VoFrame demos. This
apparently was set up to demonstrate to potential voice over customers that
call quality is very good.

I don't want to circulate the access number I was given without explicit
Cisco permission, but for those of you who are Cisco customers or sell Cisco
solutions, you may want to contact your Cisco account manager and ask for
the information.

It's pretty neet to check out the setup diagram, and then try the various
options to compare quality.

Chuck




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RE: Card Deck question [7:13787]

2001-07-25 Thread Hennen, David

I bought a set of CIT questions from Dave Franck around a year ago (I
passed).  The product was good and had no problems with delivery (via email)
or cost.

The only non positive thing I can say is that the test engine used to
display the questions was an eval version and timed out after thirty days
(inconvenient), I don't recall what product it was specifically and perhaps
something different is being used these days.  Other than that it was a good
deal.

Dave H

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Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:11 PM
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Subject: Card Deck question [7:13787]


Hi all,

  does anybody have any experience with http://www.franck.com/ccxx.htm ?
Is really so helpfull and is ordering safe?

Thanx,

  Antonin




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RE: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Farhan Ahmed

solution2; will permit 1-240 range and the deny statement will deny the rest
thats opposite

to get a wild mask
we put higher minus lower

 255.255.255.255
 255.255.240. 0
   0  015   255

so the router will permit 1-240 instead

-Original Message-
From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:22 PM
To: 'Farhan Ahmed'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: access list.. [7:13564]


Objective:  
Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0

Solution 1:
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 128.252.0-127.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 128.252.128-191.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 128.252.192-223.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 128.252.224-239.0-255
access-list 1 permit any Allows all other traffic to
pass.

Solution 2:
access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits 128.252.240-255.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic from 128.252 that
is not permitted by the previous line
access-list 1 permit any

Notes:
Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will result in less
processor utilization in most scenarios.

-Ejay



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 2:29 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: access list.. [7:13564]


What mask would be used if you want to create an
access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0) would be blocked
pls support with explanation,

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A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789]

2001-07-25 Thread Enid Sorkowitz

I am posting this per Lorne Braddock's request.  Please don't directly
respond back to me or Lorne because we simply can't reply to everyone
and don't want to appear disrespectful.

Regards,

Enid Sorkowitz
Manager, Customer Service
CCIE Program



The CCIE program team at Cisco Systems, Inc. recently announced a
revised lab exam format and that sparked a good deal of discussion on
this study group alias.  I personally do not belong to the alias but one
particular message was brought to my attention because it was not only
inaccurate, it was potentially damaging.  Someone posted what they
represented as being valid test score results achieved by Phil Remaker
and Bruce Caslow during their voluntary review of the our new CCIE lab
exam format.  Those were NOT valid test scores so the information posted
by this individual was not only inaccurate and inappropriate, it was
misleading and had the potential of professionally damaging the two
individuals he was attributing the scores to.  

Because I do not personally belong to this forum, I elected to contact
the individual who posted the misinformation to make him aware of the
real facts.  I was careful to explain that I had no problem with
individuals expressing their personal point of view but, posting
inappropriate, inaccurate and damaging information about someone else
was in no ones best interests.  I gave him the facts and asked him to
post a clarification.  By doing so, he would correct the records, gain
personal credibility and send a clear signal that facts and not rhetoric
are important.  He assured me he would consider my request but, for
reasons known only to him, he apparently decided to let the
misinformation stand.  I will not.

I am the person who approached Bruce Caslow and Phil Remaker with the
request that they evaluate our new CCIE lab exam format.  I approached
them along with a couple of other Internet notables because of their
reputations and the industry wide credibility they possess.  Both Bruce
and Phil welcomed the opportunity to conduct such an evaluation because
they sincerely care about the ongoing reputation and success of the CCIE
certification program.  Both men willingly donated their time, and good
names, to this evaluation.  They were also willing to document their
findings and make them available to the interested public.  In my
opinion, their's is the kind of activism and involvement that is
beneficial to all who are and aspire to be CCIE certified.  

Bruce and Phil were asked for their opinion on the test's relevance,
degree of challenge, clarity and overall quality.  I wanted their
opinion as to whether this test set the proper standard of excellence
for a CCIE level certification exam.  Was it as good or better than it's
predecessor?  I told both of them that I did not expect, or want, them
to take the lab exam for scoring purposes.  It was the new lab exam
format I wanted evaluated, not them.  The analogy is as if I was asking
a world class marathoner to jog a new course I mapped out to see if it
suitable for world class record setting purposes.  Is the course
challenging enough, is it fair, does it test each athlete thoroughly? 
That's what I wanted their opinion on.  Neither Bruce nor Phil studied
or prepared in any way other than to clear their calender for the day. 
Of the two of them, Phil was the only one to even mention a score and he
did so in a self deprecating way.  Bottom line, no valid scores were
tallied or posted.  No score should be attributed to either one of them.

Lorne Braddock
Sr. Manager, CCIE Programs
Cisco Systems




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Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13788]

2001-07-25 Thread Jeremy Wright

I would also be interested in this.


- Original Message -
From: Guy Russell 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13775]


> I am also trying to get one started in the Houston TX area...
>
> It will be both CCNP and CCIE.
>
> Anyone interrested could reply to me, I have alot of equipment to use as
> well.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Dennis H
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:24 AM
> Subject: Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about
[7:13773]
>
>
> > I'm in Atlanta and preparing for the lab for early next year.  Drop me a
> > line if you'd like to exchange ideas.  There is also a Cisco study group
> in
> > Atlanta although from what I've seen they do alot of CCNA and CCNP
> studies.
> >
> > Dennis Hess
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> >  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > This sounds like a great idea.  Are there people in the Atlanta area
> that
> > > would be interested in setting up a study group such as this?  I am
> taking
> > > the lab in mid-November and would be interested in getting together
with
> > > other folks that are preparing for the lab sometime in 2001.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > > Evry
> > > , ,
> > >
> > > ek.org>
> > > Sent by:
> > > cc:
> > > nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Washington
DC
> > > Router Roast This Saturday
> > >
> > > tudy.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 07/24/2001
> > > 05:29
> > > PM
> > >
> > > Please
> > > respond
> > > to
> > > Bruce
> > > Evry
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 24 17:21:29 2001
> > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:24:58 -0400 (EDT)
> > > From: Bruce Evry
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday
> > >
> > > Dear Friends,
> > >
> > >Our DC Cisco group will be holding its July meeting:
> > >Saturday, July 28, 2001
> > >Time: 10 am to 4 pm
> > >Place: Bruce's Hilltop Estate
> > >
> > >We will, as usual, talk of many things!
> > >
> > >If it is nice outside We will take the routers and switches
> > > outside and practise Cisco technologies under the trees
> > > (if not we route and switch inside)
> > >
> > >As usual there is no charge or fee, but it's always
> appreciated
> > > if
> > >  you bring desserts, snacks, sodas, routers, switches, and laptops.
Make
> > >  sure all the equipment is well-marked so that we can send it home
with
> > the
> > >  person who brought it. (Do not mark the potato chips please)
> > >
> > >Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
> > >
> > >DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE
> > >
> > >  1607 Thomas Road,
> > > Fort Washington, MD 20744
> > >
> > > >From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD,
> > > >From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD
> > >
> > > To the Indian Head Highway South.
> > >
> > >  Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road.
> > >
> > >   Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road,
> > > Turn Right on Thomas Road.
> > >   We are 1607 Thomas Rd,
> > >  almost all the way down the street on the left.
> > >
> > >  Look for the pumpkin in the tree &
> > > a long gravel driveway with no House visible from street!
> > >
> > >  If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us!
> > >  Please E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks.
> > > **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html




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Card Deck question [7:13787]

2001-07-25 Thread Antonin Kral

Hi all,

  does anybody have any experience with http://www.franck.com/ccxx.htm ?
Is really so helpfull and is ordering safe?

Thanx,

  Antonin




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bgp [7:13786]

2001-07-25 Thread SH Wesson

What is the recommended router if I wanted to run bgp on my dual internet 
connection.  I currently have a 2651 and will be upgrading it to 128MB but 
am not sure if that's enough to run bgp considering the size of the bgp 
routing table. Thank you.

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RE: access list.. [7:13564]

2001-07-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

Create an Access list to block the source address range 128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0

Solution 1:
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.00.0.127.255 Blocks 128.252.0-127.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.128.0  0.0.63.255  Blocks 128.252.128-191.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.192.0  0.0.31.255  Blocks 128.252.192-223.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.224.0  0.0.15.255  Blocks 128.252.224-239.0-255
access-list 1 permit any Allows all other traffic to
pass.

Solution 2:
access-list 1 permit 128.252.240.0 0.0.15.255 Permits 128.252.240-255.0-255
access-list 1 deny 128.252.0.0 0.0.255.255 Denies traffic from 128.252 that
is not permitted by the previous line
access-list 1 permit any

Notes:
Both Solutions work, but solution 2 has less lines and will result in less
processor utilization in most scenarios.

-Ejay



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What mask would be used if you want to create an
access list where the IP addresses (128.252.0.0 to
128.252.240.0) would be blocked
pls support with explanation,




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RE: Phil [7:13761]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

You shouldn't complain about it William, after all the server is removing
the attachments before they're sent to the list, so people who don't have
Virus Scanner's that are up-to-date are protected from the virus infected
e-mails sent here.

Should you filter all the many thousands of viruses completely, they would
need to purchase a Virus Scanner to install on the server who provides us
with this list for free.

See the positive side of it - smile!

Ole

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Can't we start filtering these virus messages?  C'mon this is getting a
little out of hand.

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Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

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RE: Problems with AIM compression on 3660/2600 [7:13742]

2001-07-25 Thread Bob Johnson

In my previous reply I'm refering to the (as far as I know..) the OSPF
multicast messages being mucked up...

Bob (still trying to find the bug ID)

> -Original Message-
> From: Bob Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 10:01 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Problems with AIM compression on 3660/2600 [7:13742]
> 
> 
> Most likely the hardware compression is mucking up the 
> multicast traffic...
> I've had many many issues with hardware compression and 
> multicast (got to
> know TAC people all across the world).. I'll try to dig up 
> the bug ID.
> 
> What image are you using?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Simon Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:25 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Problems with AIM compression on 3660/2600 [7:13742]
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Guys I have just installed a 3660 and 7 2600's (the 2600's 
> > connected
> > to the 3660with 256k WAN links via 2 quad serial cards on 
> 3660). ospf
> > configured(all routers on area 0), I have just changed the 
> compression
> > from software to hardware to ultilize the AIM modules 
> > installed in both
> > the 3660 & 2600's( I set up PPP Encapsulation from HDLC  on 
> > all routers,
> > and configured compress stac caim 0 on 2600's & compress stac 
> > caim 0-3 on
> > 3660) However as soon I made the change I was receiving the 
> OSPF error
> > message: SPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum from
> > 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0
> > Jul 25 03:27:15: %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: 
> Bad Checksum
> > from 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0
> > Jul 25 03:27:21: %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: 
> Bad Checksum
> > from 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0 This was happening on all the 
> 2600's, OSPF
> > routes were being lost, on when I reverted to software 
> compression the
> > problem subsided. Has anyone seen this problem before.Pls let 
> > me know Rgrds
> > Simon.
> > 
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RE: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I KNOW YOU DID NOT GENERATE THESE NUMBERS, BUT DONT YOU THINK THE 23689
FIGURE FOR JAPAN CCNP'S LOOKS OUT OF LINE.
ROGER C. DAVISON CCNA N+ A+



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Actually, the CCDP is 2 tests away from the CCNP (CCDA and CID).

:-)

Ole

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Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]


I know of many people, including myself, who first pursued the CCNP and soon

after got the CCDP. After getting the CCNP, the CCDP is only one test away,
so it makes sense to put that extra couple of study weeks in for another
certification.

I also have a hard time believing a set of statistics that has no source. Do

you think people write research papers without citing their sources?? Who
would believe them??

Fred


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>Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:42:08 -0400
>
>Think about how long the CCIE has been available.
>Think about how long the CCDP has been available.
>Think about how many people on this list concentrate on getting their CCNP,
>compared to how many are concentrating on the CCDP.
>Still find it hard to believe?
>I expect the proportion will increase over time.
>
>JMcL
>-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 25/07/2001
>09:19 am ---
>
>
>"Fred Danson" @groupstudy.com on 24/07/2001
>11:56:37 pm
>
>Please respond to "Fred Danson"
>
>Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>
>
>Subject:  RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>
>
>I find it very hard to believe that, in the United States, there are only
>1.4826 CCDPs for every CCIE. I would imagine that there would be atleast 10
>CCDPs per CCIE.
>
>
> >From: "Christopher Supino"
> >Reply-To: "Christopher Supino"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
> >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:16:28 -0400
> >
> >Interesting. What is the source of this info?
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
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> >cheekin
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:33 AM
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> >Subject: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
> >
> >
> >FYI.  Breakdown by certification through May 2001
> >
> >  US/CAN EMEA Asia/Pac Americas Japan
> >CCIE 2,876  1,940  755 135  267
> >CCNA87,72426,69434,231 1,972  23,689
> >CCNP20,7789,633  9,244   40723,689
> >CCDA14,8256,580  3,705   6521,038
> >CCDP4,264  3,911  1,449   94  245
> >
> >cheekin
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RE: Phil [7:13761]

2001-07-25 Thread William Gragido

Can't we start filtering these virus messages?  C'mon this is getting a
little out of hand.

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Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

See you later. Thanks

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RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]

2001-07-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

I agree.  Many people asked me why I would spen hours trying to get a 2501
rotuer to dial up to Earthlink at 33.6 and then nat such a slow link back to
just one pc.  The answer is Because I can!  Because of this thread, I'm
going to try Natting between two ethernet subinterfaces.  Why?  Because I
can! 

As I understand it, on the lab exam, you are judged on function, not form.
If it's ugly and it works, then it's worth significantly more points than an
elegant almost-mostly-works solution.

End-rant.

-eh

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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:50 PM
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Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]


Hey Curtis,

Pardon my preaching for a moment -- and don't flame me!!! 

Money (saving it or spending it) is not the primary object here!  Learning
how to solve a problem is! -- at least for me!  I've spent the best part of
two years learning MS and Cisco -- and much of the discourse on this list --
is about HANDS-ON -- and not simply theory. Getting to that Lab in Halifax
or wherever means that we all have to work as much as possible on these
Cisco products.

It's like in law school -- I spent three years (many, many years ago)
studying theoretical law -- then when I graduated and passed the Bar Exam --
I was told I had to go out and try a case.  I almost s*** in my pants -- I
knew absolutely nothing about how to apply the law -- but lots about the
theory.

This time I'm gonna' get my hands dirty as much as possible. Besides it's
fun!  I'm having the time of my life learning and applying all this new
stuff.

So the solution must be a Cisco one -- and I might add it is blasphemy to
mention the name of Linksys on this list (As an attorney I can make up rules
if I want to!!!) 

In any case, thanks for the input.  I really do apprecicate it.

Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor


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Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]


Greg,

You are right about the Cisco nedding to be a DHCP client unless you can get
a static IP address from your ISP. This may be possible but they may ask you
for additional $. You will have to run run DHCP services on the ethernet
facing your internal pc(s) as well as a NAT
service.
I saw someon mention Linksys. That is what I use and it works great. It has
NAT and DHCP integrated as well as ports for th ecablemodem and multiple
ethernet connections. Of course this is assuming you are only after the
functionality an dnot worried about the experience of configuring this on
Cisco routers. I think the Linksys routers are around $100-150 new.

Curtis

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From: "Greg Macaulay" 
To: "Cisco GroupStudy" ; "Curtis Phillips"

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]


> Curtis --
>
> Thanks --
>
> I assumed that I would need the 2514 -- (2 ethernet ports) -- which I
have!
>
> As far as configuring DHCP on the router -- I noticed that the PC that I
> have attached to the cablemodem at present -- is configured to have a DHCP
> server provide an ip address -- which is renewed with a different address
> every three days (Road Runner).  So I would think that since the Road
Runner
> cablemodem will be attached to the e0 port -- that it will need to have an
> address assigned to it from Road Runner -- thus why I would set it up with
> as a dhcp client.
> I would also need to configure NAT for the PCs in my network -- I think!
>
> Does this make sense??
>
> Greg Macaulay
> Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
> Lifetime Member of AARP
> Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:07 PM
> To: Greg Macaulay
> Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
>
>
> Greg,
>
> You definitely need a router that has tow ethernet ports as the cable mode
m
> interfaces to ethernet and you will need ethernet to go to either a hub or
> switch (if you have more than one system) or to your system.
>
> You shouldn;t need to configure DHCP on the Cisco router as the cable
modem
> should be functioning as a DHCP client if your ISP uses dynamic client
> config.
>
> You may want to configure the Cisco router to function as a DHCP server
> though.. (check IOS versions that may support this).
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Curtis
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Macaulay" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:49 PM
> Subject: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
>
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I need some assistance with setting up my 2501 with my cable modem.  I
> know
> > I'm missing something very obvious -- but attribute my oversight to my
> age!
> >
> > (1) I configured the e0 port with  ip address dhcp.
> >
> > (2) I connected the cat5 cable from the cable modem to the e0 port.
> >
> > (3) Now I know 

RE: Multiple EIGRP Processes [7:13774]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Without being even close to touching the shoes of an EIGRP expert, I would
say that it is probably pretty normal to have to clear something when you
make a drastic change to the routing protocols running on your router(s).

Adding or removing networks shouldn't cause any trouble, but introducing or
removing a whole AS on the router is a major change.

You can compare it to when you start adding 'next-hop-self' or 'no
synchronization' on your BGP routers, you will have to clear the BGP.

Ole

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Subject: Multiple EIGRP Processes [7:13774]


Let's say I have the following topology:

A
|
|
B--C
|
|
D

Routers A, B, and C are participating in EIGRP AS 1, so those three
routers are aware of everything except routes on the other side of D. 
Then, I add EIGRP AS 2 to routers B, C, and D but not A.  It's my
understanding that Router A will only be aware of the directly connected
links of routers B and C, and router D will only know of the directly
connected links of routers B and C.  Router A should not be aware of any
link on router D except for the B--D link.

Now, B has two topology tables with some duplicate routes learned from
router C, or at least it should.  As soon as I turn on eigrp AS 2 on B
and C, no routing information should be lost, correct?  If Router C is
advertising a given subnet via eigrp AS 1 and AS 2, router B should
always be aware of it no matter what, right?

Well, in my situation, as soon as eigrp AS 2 is implemented on B and C,
B loses all the routes advertised by C until I clear the eigrp
neighbors.  At that point this begins to work correctly.

Then, when I removed eigrp AS 2--leaving eigrp AS 1-- on B and C, those
routes disappear again!  As before, clearing the eigrp neighbors
resolves the issue but I don't understand why this would be happening. 
I believe it's a bug but I'm not sure.  There are some bugs related to
routes being in the topology table that aren't being inserted into the
routing table, but I don't know for certain those apply here.

Is my thinking correct here or am I missing something?

Thanks,
John

p.s.  Don't ask why I'm doing this, just go with me on it, okay?? ;-)




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RE: ccna challenge question [7:13565]

2001-07-25 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Ed, what you're forgetting is this:  a directed broadcast would either be
generated by a device 172.18.2.0 network that has been configured with a
subnet mask of 255.255.254.0 or by and end-system specifically trying to
reach an end-host configured as part of that subnet (for example, a
user-initiated "ping" sent to 172.18.3.255 trying to illicit a response from
all end-systems on the 172.18.2.0 /22 subnet).  If RouterB does not have an
interface directly connected to the 172.18.0.0 network, yes it will see
network 172.18.2.0 as 172.18.0.0 and to it it will think the directed
broadcast is 172.18.255.255 but why would RouterB need to GENERATE a
directed broadcast to this network?  RouterB is likely to only RECEIVE a
directed broadcast sent to 172.18.3.255 and won't CARE about the IP address
of that packet.  It takes the packet and forwards it to the 172.18.0.0
network.

As a side note, if RouterB DOES have an interface that is part of the
172.18.0.0 network, that interface must be configured with the same subnet
mask as the 172.18.2.0 network as variable-length subnet masking is not
supported by RIP.  In other words, the subnet mask used in conjunction with
any subnet from the 172.18.0.0 network must be configured with the subnet
mask 255.255.252.0.  Then RouterB would know that 172.18.3.255 is the
directed broadcast address.

Let's look at the question again and look it from a different perspective:

Using classful assumptions, what is the directed broadcast address for
172.18.2.0 with the mask 255.255.254.0?

Now put that on a PC.  What will the directed broadcast address be if this
was on a PC?   RouterB really doesn't even enter into the picture.

There's really nothing wrong with the question, if you understand the
concept of classful and classless routing.


  -- Leigh Anne

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Ed Moss
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565]


Everyone has some good ideas on this...  and one of the replies made me
rethink my previous answer Look at it from the aspect of the ROUTER...
assuming that this is implemented on a router.

An interface with the address of 172.18.2.0 and a mask of 255.255.254.0
will send directed broadcasts to 172.18.3.255.  Answer B is correct.

However the above router sends a RIP version 1 update (which is classless)
to router B.  Router B gets the router 172.18.2.0 and no mask information.
It assumes a classful boundary. ( I know, there are other rules that affect
the advertisement and receipt of the route)   Router B will then send
directed broadcasts to 172.18.255.255.

I think everyone would agree that the question is poorly worded...   If I
came across the question I would still select 'C' as my answer,
172.18.255.255.   My clue in the question is 'using classful assumptions'

Ed




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RE: Problems with AIM compression on 3660/2600 [7:13742]

2001-07-25 Thread Bob Johnson

Most likely the hardware compression is mucking up the multicast traffic...
I've had many many issues with hardware compression and multicast (got to
know TAC people all across the world).. I'll try to dig up the bug ID.

What image are you using?

Bob


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> From: Simon Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 5:25 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Problems with AIM compression on 3660/2600 [7:13742]
> 
> 
> Hi Guys I have just installed a 3660 and 7 2600's (the 2600's 
> connected
> to the 3660with 256k WAN links via 2 quad serial cards on 3660). ospf
> configured(all routers on area 0), I have just changed the compression
> from software to hardware to ultilize the AIM modules 
> installed in both
> the 3660 & 2600's( I set up PPP Encapsulation from HDLC  on 
> all routers,
> and configured compress stac caim 0 on 2600's & compress stac 
> caim 0-3 on
> 3660) However as soon I made the change I was receiving the OSPF error
> message: SPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum from
> 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0
> Jul 25 03:27:15: %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum
> from 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0
> Jul 25 03:27:21: %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum
> from 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0 This was happening on all the 2600's, OSPF
> routes were being lost, on when I reverted to software compression the
> problem subsided. Has anyone seen this problem before.Pls let 
> me know Rgrds
> Simon.
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RE: frame-relay route syntax [7:13725]

2001-07-25 Thread Hire, Ejay

router1-Linkdlci17-serial0-frameswitch-serial1-linkdlci18-router2

Frameswitch
frame-relay switching
interface serial 0
encaps frame-relay
frame-relay intf-type dce 
frame-relay route 17 interface serial 1 18
interface serial 1
encaps frame-relay
frame-relay intf-type dce 
frame-relay route 18 interface serial 0 17

router1
ip subnet-zero
interface serial x
encaps frame relay 
ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.252
frame-relay map ip 192.168.0.2 17

router2
ip subnet-zero
interface serial x
encaps frame relay 
ip address 192.168.0.2 255.255.255.252
frame-relay map ip 192.168.0.1 18

Merry Christmas.


Anybody have any AGS parts laying around?  I need a flash card (MC+) and/or
a FDDI card.  Buy/sell/trade. -ej

-Original Message-
From: Rodriguez Jose [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: frame-relay route syntax [7:13725]


Hello,
 
My question is about configuring a frame relay switch and the route
command.  I know that on CCO the syntax is:
 
frame-relay route  interface serial  
 
Does the dlci refer to the dlci in the frame header or to the dlci at the
input end of the PVC?
 
Router A dlci 102 --s0 FR_SWITCH S1 ---Router B dlci 103

interface serial 0
a) frame-relay route 103 interface serial 1 102
--or is it --
b) frame-relay route 102 interface serial 1 103
 
I have seen configurations both ways:
a) www.fatkid.com using the DLCI from the FR header
b) Sybex CCNA using the DLCI from the input end of the PVC




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Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13775]

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Russell

I am also trying to get one started in the Houston TX area...

It will be both CCNP and CCIE.

Anyone interrested could reply to me, I have alot of equipment to use as
well.


- Original Message -
From: Dennis H 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13773]


> I'm in Atlanta and preparing for the lab for early next year.  Drop me a
> line if you'd like to exchange ideas.  There is also a Cisco study group
in
> Atlanta although from what I've seen they do alot of CCNA and CCNP
studies.
>
> Dennis Hess
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > This sounds like a great idea.  Are there people in the Atlanta area
that
> > would be interested in setting up a study group such as this?  I am
taking
> > the lab in mid-November and would be interested in getting together with
> > other folks that are preparing for the lab sometime in 2001.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> >
> > Bruce
> > Evry
> > , ,
> >
> > ek.org>
> > Sent by:
> > cc:
> > nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Washington DC
> > Router Roast This Saturday
> >
> > tudy.com
> >
> >
> >
> > 07/24/2001
> > 05:29
> > PM
> >
> > Please
> > respond
> > to
> > Bruce
> > Evry
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 24 17:21:29 2001
> > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:24:58 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: Bruce Evry
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday
> >
> > Dear Friends,
> >
> >Our DC Cisco group will be holding its July meeting:
> >Saturday, July 28, 2001
> >Time: 10 am to 4 pm
> >Place: Bruce's Hilltop Estate
> >
> >We will, as usual, talk of many things!
> >
> >If it is nice outside We will take the routers and switches
> > outside and practise Cisco technologies under the trees
> > (if not we route and switch inside)
> >
> >As usual there is no charge or fee, but it's always
appreciated
> > if
> >  you bring desserts, snacks, sodas, routers, switches, and laptops. Make
> >  sure all the equipment is well-marked so that we can send it home with
> the
> >  person who brought it. (Do not mark the potato chips please)
> >
> >Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
> >
> >DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE
> >
> >  1607 Thomas Road,
> > Fort Washington, MD 20744
> >
> > >From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD,
> > >From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD
> >
> > To the Indian Head Highway South.
> >
> >  Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road.
> >
> >   Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road,
> > Turn Right on Thomas Road.
> >   We are 1607 Thomas Rd,
> >  almost all the way down the street on the left.
> >
> >  Look for the pumpkin in the tree &
> > a long gravel driveway with no House visible from street!
> >
> >  If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us!
> >  Please E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks.
> > **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html




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Multiple EIGRP Processes [7:13774]

2001-07-25 Thread John Neiberger

Let's say I have the following topology:

A
|
|
B--C
|
|
D

Routers A, B, and C are participating in EIGRP AS 1, so those three
routers are aware of everything except routes on the other side of D. 
Then, I add EIGRP AS 2 to routers B, C, and D but not A.  It's my
understanding that Router A will only be aware of the directly connected
links of routers B and C, and router D will only know of the directly
connected links of routers B and C.  Router A should not be aware of any
link on router D except for the B--D link.

Now, B has two topology tables with some duplicate routes learned from
router C, or at least it should.  As soon as I turn on eigrp AS 2 on B
and C, no routing information should be lost, correct?  If Router C is
advertising a given subnet via eigrp AS 1 and AS 2, router B should
always be aware of it no matter what, right?

Well, in my situation, as soon as eigrp AS 2 is implemented on B and C,
B loses all the routes advertised by C until I clear the eigrp
neighbors.  At that point this begins to work correctly.

Then, when I removed eigrp AS 2--leaving eigrp AS 1-- on B and C, those
routes disappear again!  As before, clearing the eigrp neighbors
resolves the issue but I don't understand why this would be happening. 
I believe it's a bug but I'm not sure.  There are some bugs related to
routes being in the topology table that aren't being inserted into the
routing table, but I don't know for certain those apply here.

Is my thinking correct here or am I missing something?

Thanks,
John

p.s.  Don't ask why I'm doing this, just go with me on it, okay?? ;-)




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Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13773]

2001-07-25 Thread Dennis H

I'm in Atlanta and preparing for the lab for early next year.  Drop me a
line if you'd like to exchange ideas.  There is also a Cisco study group in
Atlanta although from what I've seen they do alot of CCNA and CCNP studies.

Dennis Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



 wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This sounds like a great idea.  Are there people in the Atlanta area that
> would be interested in setting up a study group such as this?  I am taking
> the lab in mid-November and would be interested in getting together with
> other folks that are preparing for the lab sometime in 2001.
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> Bruce
> Evry
> , ,
>
> ek.org>
> Sent by:
> cc:
> nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Washington DC
> Router Roast This Saturday
>
> tudy.com
>
>
>
> 07/24/2001
> 05:29
> PM
>
> Please
> respond
> to
> Bruce
> Evry
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 24 17:21:29 2001
> Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:24:58 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Bruce Evry
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday
>
> Dear Friends,
>
>Our DC Cisco group will be holding its July meeting:
>Saturday, July 28, 2001
>Time: 10 am to 4 pm
>Place: Bruce's Hilltop Estate
>
>We will, as usual, talk of many things!
>
>If it is nice outside We will take the routers and switches
> outside and practise Cisco technologies under the trees
> (if not we route and switch inside)
>
>As usual there is no charge or fee, but it's always appreciated
> if
>  you bring desserts, snacks, sodas, routers, switches, and laptops. Make
>  sure all the equipment is well-marked so that we can send it home with
the
>  person who brought it. (Do not mark the potato chips please)
>
>Yours Truly - Bruce Evry
>
>DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE
>
>  1607 Thomas Road,
> Fort Washington, MD 20744
>
> >From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD,
> >From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD
>
> To the Indian Head Highway South.
>
>  Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road.
>
>   Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road,
> Turn Right on Thomas Road.
>   We are 1607 Thomas Rd,
>  almost all the way down the street on the left.
>
>  Look for the pumpkin in the tree &
> a long gravel driveway with no House visible from street!
>
>  If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us!
>  Please E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks.
> **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html




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Re: Cisco2511 [7:13737]

2001-07-25 Thread Dennis H

Surely you're joking... If not look up this link and good luck!


http://www.cisco.com/public/technotes/serv_tips.shtml




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> Dear Group
>  I must config systems include  cisco 2511 , server NT  setup Trustme 1.1
on
> database SQL7.0 and watchword II of racal
> pls show me how to config router  to access the TrustMe server from remote
> user with Watchword II over the PSTN
> Thanks




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Re: Can 2501 handle two T1s [7:13733]

2001-07-25 Thread John Hardman

Hi

If you are just routing you should be fine. However if you are doing NAT,
ACL, policy based routing or anything else that is CPU consuming you are
likely to have some problems. Keep in mind that a Cisco router will start
dropping packets at about 70% CPU and be totally brain dead at about 90%
CPU.

HTH
--
John Hardman CCNP MCSE


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> Hey guys,
> I know no one in the world would put two T1s on a 2501 router.  But I
> maybe doing this soon.  I am currently using a 7200 router for my two T1s
> but I feel like taking it offline and sell it to pay for my ECP1 and my
> trip to San Jose for the lab test.  So I'm going take out my 2501 and see
> if it can handle two T1s which is constantly pushing at 2.8-3.0 mbps all
> the time.  Has anyone done this before?  Am I going to blow up this
> router?  Will the cpu utilization go skyrocket?  Thanks for any advice.
>
> -Frank




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Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13770]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This sounds like a great idea.  Are there people in the Atlanta area that
would be interested in setting up a study group such as this?  I am taking
the lab in mid-November and would be interested in getting together with
other folks that are preparing for the lab sometime in 2001.

Steve


   

Bruce
Evry
, ,
   
ek.org>
Sent by:
cc:
nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Washington DC
Router Roast This Saturday
   
tudy.com
   

   

   
07/24/2001
05:29
PM
   
Please
respond
to
Bruce
Evry
   

   





>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 24 17:21:29 2001
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:24:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bruce Evry 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday

Dear Friends,

   Our DC Cisco group will be holding its July meeting:
   Saturday, July 28, 2001
   Time: 10 am to 4 pm
   Place: Bruce's Hilltop Estate

   We will, as usual, talk of many things!

   If it is nice outside We will take the routers and switches
outside and practise Cisco technologies under the trees
(if not we route and switch inside)

   As usual there is no charge or fee, but it's always appreciated
if
 you bring desserts, snacks, sodas, routers, switches, and laptops. Make
 sure all the equipment is well-marked so that we can send it home with the
 person who brought it. (Do not mark the potato chips please)

   Yours Truly - Bruce Evry

   DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE

 1607 Thomas Road,
Fort Washington, MD 20744

>From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD,
>From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD

To the Indian Head Highway South.

 Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road.

  Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road,
Turn Right on Thomas Road.
  We are 1607 Thomas Rd,
 almost all the way down the street on the left.

 Look for the pumpkin in the tree &
a long gravel driveway with no House visible from street!

 If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us!
 Please E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks.
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Re: Yet another Terminal Server Question [7:13396]

2001-07-25 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I also believe that some of these boxes have other interfaces that can be
used.
why noy buy a 2510 or 2512 and get 1TR and 2 serial thrown in the deal.
Takes care of alot


- Original Message -
From: "John Neiberger" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: Yet another Terminal Server Question [7:13396]


> I know how to do reverse telnet, it's not exactly a difficult thing to
> configure. ;-)  I'm just wondering if there is some reason I can't use a
> switchbox for my home lab.  Buying a router to turn it into a serial
> switchbox seems like a waste of money.  I'm not worried about running
> into one in the lab, I use one at work all the time for remote access.
>
> Beyond knowing how to use one, are there any technical reasons why a
> switchbox would not work?  I'm more concerned with the physical aspects.
>  I'd hate to order one and then find out that there is some
> incompatibility that I wasn't aware of.  I have no idea what that might
> be, but that's because I'm unaware of it!
>
> Thanks,
> John
>
> >>> "Kelly D Griffin"  7/23/01 11:49:46 AM >>>
> You need to learn how to do reverse telnet from a Cisco router.  This
> will
> allow you to connect to multiple devices while being vty'ed or
> console'ed
> into a router.  It is not that you need to be local, but it comes in
> handy
> if you have a remote router that has a modem and it is AUX-CON cabled
> to
> another router.  This way you can manage multiple devices with one
> modem.
>
> p.s.  You may need to know it for the CCIE Lab.
>
> Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
> Network Engineer
> Kg2 Network Design
> 877.418.4025
> http://www.kg2.com
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Neiberger"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 12:27 PM
> Subject: Yet another Terminal Server Question [7:13396]
>
>
> > I keep seeing 500-CS, 2509, and 2511 thrown out as suggestions for a
> > terminal server, but aren't these a little expensive when you really
> > just want a serial switch?
> >
> > Is there a reason that more people don't use a simple serial
> switchbox
> > for home lab study?  I'm looking through the Black Box catalog and I
> see
> > part # SW077A for $133.00.  It's a 6-to-1 RJ-45 switch.  Is there
> some
> > reason why I wouldn't be able to get one of those instead of
> spending
> > hundreds of dollars on a 2509?
> >
> > I keep thinking there must be something I'm missing because I don't
> > recall seeing anyone suggest a switchbox for this application.  If
> > there's a reason for it, I'd like to know before I spend the dough
> on
> > the switch.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > John
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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GSR ACL document [7:13768]

2001-07-25 Thread dre

Will someone please forward me the Cisco internal paper on GSR ACL's?
It became available from the IPSBU about 3 months ago and is a Word
document.

-dre




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Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565]

2001-07-25 Thread Ed Moss

Everyone has some good ideas on this...  and one of the replies made me
rethink my previous answer Look at it from the aspect of the ROUTER...
assuming that this is implemented on a router.

An interface with the address of 172.18.2.0 and a mask of 255.255.254.0
will send directed broadcasts to 172.18.3.255.  Answer B is correct.

However the above router sends a RIP version 1 update (which is classless)
to router B.  Router B gets the router 172.18.2.0 and no mask information.
It assumes a classful boundary. ( I know, there are other rules that affect
the advertisement and receipt of the route)   Router B will then send
directed broadcasts to 172.18.255.255.

I think everyone would agree that the question is poorly worded...   If I
came across the question I would still select 'C' as my answer,
172.18.255.255.   My clue in the question is 'using classful assumptions'

Ed




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Re: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]

2001-07-25 Thread Jeremy Wright

I don't have any preference. Anytime is good for me as long as my work
agrees, which I think they will.


- Original Message -
From: Brad Ellis 
To: ; 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]


> Guy,
>
> We're thinking of working with Dennis and offering such a class at our
> facility in the Detroit, MI area.  We could do it the week of Aug 13, 20,
or
> 27th.  Anyone have any preferences?
>
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ""Guy Russell""  wrote in message
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> > Ai...
> >
> > Me too,
> >
> > I also have a very nice message board system, that we could use, and
would
> > be willing to host the site as well.
> > If it is needed.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: fgh
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:54 AM
> > Subject: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]
> >
> >
> > > Dennis,
> > > I would definately be interested in a CCIE written prep. Thanks.




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Re: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]

2001-07-25 Thread Brad Ellis

Guy,

We're thinking of working with Dennis and offering such a class at our
facility in the Detroit, MI area.  We could do it the week of Aug 13, 20, or
27th.  Anyone have any preferences?

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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>
> Me too,
>
> I also have a very nice message board system, that we could use, and would
> be willing to host the site as well.
> If it is needed.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: fgh
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:54 AM
> Subject: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]
>
>
> > Dennis,
> > I would definately be interested in a CCIE written prep. Thanks.




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Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]

2001-07-25 Thread Ed Moss

wow... looks like everyone has their own opinion on this.

Yes, a 2501 can do inside and outside NAT on the same interface... this
would be one solution.
Another would be to use primary and secondary addresses on the interface.
For both of there, you would need a hub attached to the cable modem and the
router.

There are many other options out there.  Personally I use a LinkSys
Cable/DSL router.  This has an outside address, and then NATs the inside
addresses.  It will also do basic PAT as well... I can telent to my lab from
the Internet  and even better, I can initiate connections, pings, etc
from the router in my lab to the Internet.

Ed




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Re: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]

2001-07-25 Thread Guy Russell

Ai...

Me too,

I also have a very nice message board system, that we could use, and would
be willing to host the site as well.
If it is needed.

- Original Message -
From: fgh 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:54 AM
Subject: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]


> Dennis,
> I would definately be interested in a CCIE written prep. Thanks.




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Phil [7:13761]

2001-07-25 Thread

Hi! How are you?

I send you this file in order to have your advice

See you later. Thanks

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Re: Creating a Home WAN [7:13221]

2001-07-25 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I would recommend a 4xxx series. You can add the modules you need.
serial mod's for about 2-to-4 hundred - frame
np-4/8b-s/t/u any combo about 1-to-2 hundred - isdn
np-a1-oc3mm wow about 1200 hundred - atm
np-1/2r about 50-100 dollars
check to make sure that the 4xxx can handle the mods not all do
actually if you have a 7xxx you could use a pa-a1-mm and get it for about
5hundred - atm



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To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 5:20 PM
Subject: Creating a Home WAN [7:13221]


> I am in the process of developing a home lab
> for CCNP/CCIE study.I have a medium-sized budget
> for this, but I don't want to over-spend either.
>
> I would like to know what equipment I would need
> to create a lab that would allow me to do useful work
> configuring various WAN protocols, in particular Frame Relay
> ISDN, and ATM. I would also like to know about any
> 'gotcha's I need to look out for.
>
> Is ebay a good place to get used equipment?
>
> If anyone could offer some suggestions and/or advice,
> I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Rick.




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Re: FW: IP Summary-address RIP [7:13699]

2001-07-25 Thread John Neiberger

Even though it's fairly uncommon to see companies running RIP, this is a
pretty cool new tool.  I'm disappointed that the people on the CCIE list
wouldn't think it was pretty nifty.  Since all of us are bound to run
into somebody running RIP eventually, it would be good to be aware of
these sorts of new features.

Besides, it seems possible that when the lab is updated they make
include commands from 12.1.  If so, this feature might get you a few
points.  You never know...

Thanks,
John

>>> "Chuck Larrieu"  7/24/01 9:08:23 PM >>>
I posted the following to the CCIE list and received no comment
whatsoever.
apparently if a topic isn't directly related to any of the practice
labs, or
is not perceived as being necessary to pass the Lab, no one is
interested.

since I know the folks on this list like to learn things, I thought I'd
post
here

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:10 PM
To: CCIE_Lab Groupstudy List
Subject: IP Summary-address RIP


ran into this one while digging around CCO

IP summary-address rip network mask

this command is new to IOS 12.1

it is an interface command, and ip split-horizon must be disabled for
it to
work.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/ip_c

/ipcprt2/1cdrip.htm#xtocid1773719
watch the word wrap

>From CCO:

Example 1: Correct Configuration

The following example shows how the ip summary-address rip command
works
with autosummary addressing in RIP. In the example, the major network
is
10.0.0.0. The summary address 10.2.0.0 overrides the autosummary
address of
10.0.0.0, so that 10.2.0.0 is advertised out interface e1 and 10.0.0.0
is
not advertised.


 Note   If split horizon is enabled, neither autosummary nor interface
summary addresses (those configured with the ip summary-address rip
command)
are advertised.


router rip
router int e1
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 (config-if)# ip summary-address rip 10.2.0.0 255.255.0.0
no ip split-horizon

router rip
network 10.0.0.0

[end of CCO quote]

finally got this one to work. the doc CD omits the requirement that
the
sender must be a RIPv2 speaker. which makes sense, if you stop and
think
about it. sample configs below my signature.

I got to wondering about the no ip split-horizon requirement on the
interface where the summary takes place. if the RIP process receives
the
summarization information from an interface, then I guess it considers
advertising that summary back out that address as a violation of split
horizon. make sense? I can't think of any other reason for the
requirement.

leads to some interesting possibilities. for example, suppose you have
some
kind of RLAN private network, with lots of home user DSL lines
aggregated
into an ATM DS3 at the core. you want to conserve address space by
allocating /29's to the home office users, but your RIP network
requires a
mask of /24.

don't laugh, guys, I have a customer with exactly this situation :->

you can advertise a /24 summary into your rip network. Cisco routers
by
default listen to RIPv2 advertisements, even if they are RIPv1 routers.
So
the RIPv2 advertisements will be accepted and placed into the routing
table.
I don't know if this is true with other vendor's products.

there are obviously some pitfalls. with split horizon disabled, one
must be
aware of the implications. I have not yet tried various flavors of
route
maps or distribute lists to limit what goes out. also, one must take
care
that the RIPv1 routers are able to readvertise the summarized route.
Assuming, as in the case I have mentioned, the RIPv1 router has only
/24's
on its attached interfaces, this should be OK. just something to be
aware
of.

in terms of CCIE lab applicability, I suppose this can be one more tool
in
your arsenal. but only if your pod features 12.1 or better.

Chuck

interface Loopback0
 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.248
!
interface Loopback1
 ip address 10.1.1.9 255.255.255.248
!
interface Loopback2
 ip address 10.1.1.17 255.255.255.248
!
interface Loopback3
 ip address 10.1.1.25 255.255.255.248
!
interface Loopback4
 ip address 10.1.1.33 255.255.255.248
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 190.190.99.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip split-horizon
 ip summary-address rip 10.1.1.0 255.255.255.0

interface Serial1
 ip address 190.190.23.3 255.255.255.0
 no ip split-horizon
 ip summary-address rip 10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0
 clockrate 200
!
router rip
 version 2
 passive-interface Loopback0
 passive-interface Loopback1
 passive-interface Loopback2
 passive-interface Loopback3
 passive-interface Loopback4
 network 10.0.0.0
 network 190.190.0.0
 no auto-summary

another router:

I171.171.0.0/16 [100/9076] via 190.190.23.3, 00:01:10, Serial1
S100.0.0.0/8 is directly connected, Serial1
 190.190.0.0/24 is subnetted, 2 subnets

RE: ********** Basic Rate ISDN Emulator ************** [7:13758]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Do you have specs, a picture and and price on it?

Thanks,

Ole

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********** Basic Rate ISDN Emulator ************** [7:13757]

2001-07-25 Thread SCollinson

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RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]

2001-07-25 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Actually, the CCDP is 2 tests away from the CCNP (CCDA and CID).

:-)

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Fred Danson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]


I know of many people, including myself, who first pursued the CCNP and soon

after got the CCDP. After getting the CCNP, the CCDP is only one test away, 
so it makes sense to put that extra couple of study weeks in for another 
certification.

I also have a hard time believing a set of statistics that has no source. Do

you think people write research papers without citing their sources?? Who 
would believe them??

Fred


>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:42:08 -0400
>
>Think about how long the CCIE has been available.
>Think about how long the CCDP has been available.
>Think about how many people on this list concentrate on getting their CCNP,
>compared to how many are concentrating on the CCDP.
>Still find it hard to believe?
>I expect the proportion will increase over time.
>
>JMcL
>-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 25/07/2001
>09:19 am ---
>
>
>"Fred Danson" @groupstudy.com on 24/07/2001
>11:56:37 pm
>
>Please respond to "Fred Danson"
>
>Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>
>
>Subject:  RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>
>
>I find it very hard to believe that, in the United States, there are only
>1.4826 CCDPs for every CCIE. I would imagine that there would be atleast 10
>CCDPs per CCIE.
>
>
> >From: "Christopher Supino"
> >Reply-To: "Christopher Supino"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
> >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:16:28 -0400
> >
> >Interesting. What is the source of this info?
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >cheekin
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:33 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
> >
> >
> >FYI.  Breakdown by certification through May 2001
> >
> >  US/CAN EMEA Asia/Pac Americas Japan
> >CCIE 2,876  1,940  755 135  267
> >CCNA87,72426,69434,231 1,972  23,689
> >CCNP20,7789,633  9,244   40723,689
> >CCDA14,8256,580  3,705   6521,038
> >CCDP4,264  3,911  1,449   94  245
> >
> >cheekin
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CCIE Written Class [7:13755]

2001-07-25 Thread fgh

Dennis,
I would definately be interested in a CCIE written prep. Thanks.




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Re: IP header question, Fixed 20 bytes or can be more? [7:13754]

2001-07-25 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>!Hola!
>
>>  Same for the TCP header. there is an optional options field of 4 bytes.
my
>
>s/4 bytes/4 bits/ ? And the size for options fields is 40 (2^15 * 4 - 20)
>bytes (the "data offset field" is sized to 4 bits)
>
>>  quick glance through RFC 761 tells me this field never exceeds that 4
byte
>>  length, but I am not very familiar with it.
>
>  > ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc761.txt
>
>Why did you refer 761 instead of 793 ?


760 is actually the original IP RFC (761 is TCP).  It had no concept 
of classes, just a fixed 8-byte network field.

791 is the "main" IP specification. Classes but no subnetting.

950 introduced subnetting

CIDR is in multiple RFCs, primarily 1517-1520.

>
>>  I bring this up because most of the study materials state ex cathedra
that
>>  the IP and the TCP headers are 20 bytes. Having browsed the RFC's at one
>>  time or another, I vaguely recalled the options, looked it up, and sure
>>  enough, there they are. I don't recall much study material covering the
>>  options and their uses.
>
>It has been a long time, but i believe that Comer talks about options.


There are options, but they are rarely used.  Off the top of my head, 
security, source recording, and I think some timestamping.

>
>>  Chuck
>
>Saludos,
>   HoraPe
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RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]

2001-07-25 Thread Fred Danson

I know of many people, including myself, who first pursued the CCNP and soon 
after got the CCDP. After getting the CCNP, the CCDP is only one test away, 
so it makes sense to put that extra couple of study weeks in for another 
certification.

I also have a hard time believing a set of statistics that has no source. Do 
you think people write research papers without citing their sources?? Who 
would believe them??

Fred


>From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>Reply-To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 19:42:08 -0400
>
>Think about how long the CCIE has been available.
>Think about how long the CCDP has been available.
>Think about how many people on this list concentrate on getting their CCNP,
>compared to how many are concentrating on the CCDP.
>Still find it hard to believe?
>I expect the proportion will increase over time.
>
>JMcL
>-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 25/07/2001
>09:19 am ---
>
>
>"Fred Danson" @groupstudy.com on 24/07/2001
>11:56:37 pm
>
>Please respond to "Fred Danson"
>
>Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
>
>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>cc:
>
>
>Subject:  RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
>
>
>I find it very hard to believe that, in the United States, there are only
>1.4826 CCDPs for every CCIE. I would imagine that there would be atleast 10
>CCDPs per CCIE.
>
>
> >From: "Christopher Supino"
> >Reply-To: "Christopher Supino"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
> >Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 07:16:28 -0400
> >
> >Interesting. What is the source of this info?
> >
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >cheekin
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:33 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Certification Statistics [7:13477]
> >
> >
> >FYI.  Breakdown by certification through May 2001
> >
> >  US/CAN EMEA Asia/Pac Americas Japan
> >CCIE 2,876  1,940  755 135  267
> >CCNA87,72426,69434,231 1,972  23,689
> >CCNP20,7789,633  9,244   40723,689
> >CCDA14,8256,580  3,705   6521,038
> >CCDP4,264  3,911  1,449   94  245
> >
> >cheekin
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CCDA [7:13752]

2001-07-25 Thread JEF

passed...thanks




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** Extra Routers FORSALE ** [7:13751]

2001-07-25 Thread Alfred Chin

I have 2 extra routers forsale.  Here is the details of the routers :

1.  Cisco 1750 with 48 MB RAM, 8 MB Flash, 1 WIC-1DSU-T1, 1 VIC-2FXS.  The
routers is upgraded with a PVDM-8 Voice Module.  The router has a capability
to support 4 voice port.  Good for setting up voice capable CCIE R/S
practice lab.
2.   Cisco 1720 with 32 MB RAM, 8MB Flash, 1 WIC-1DSU-T1.  The router also
have a VPN module installed.  
 
Email me if you interested or need more info about the routers.  

Thanks.

Alfred Chin




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RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]

2001-07-25 Thread Greg Macaulay

Hey Curtis

I want to apologize for the rantings of an old man last nite.  We each have
our own method of approaching this stuff -- and I for one have alwasy
believed that I shouldn't preach to others.  Lecturing/Preaching or whatever
has been my forte for many years -- teaching both goggle-eyed law students,
weary lawyers, or newly-appointed judges.  So it's hard for me to break the
mold.

I'm trying desparately to get out of my lawyer suit (Like Clark Kent) and
get properly fitted for my techie suit!! So again pardon me for any
offensive words or thoughts I might have inadvertantly conveyed last nite.

Thanks for the input -- I really do appreciate it.

Greg Macaulay
Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
Lifetime Member of AARP
Retired Attorney/Law Professor

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]


No problem. Good luck wih your project.
- Original Message -
From: "Greg Macaulay" 
To: "Cisco GroupStudy" ; "Curtis Phillips"

Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]


> Hey Curtis,
>
> Pardon my preaching for a moment -- and don't flame me!!! 
>
> Money (saving it or spending it) is not the primary object here!  Learning
> how to solve a problem is! -- at least for me!  I've spent the best part
of
> two years learning MS and Cisco -- and much of the discourse on this
list --
> is about HANDS-ON -- and not simply theory. Getting to that Lab in Halifax
> or wherever means that we all have to work as much as possible on these
> Cisco products.
>
> It's like in law school -- I spent three years (many, many years ago)
> studying theoretical law -- then when I graduated and passed the Bar
Exam --
> I was told I had to go out and try a case.  I almost s*** in my pants -- I
> knew absolutely nothing about how to apply the law -- but lots about the
> theory.
>
> This time I'm gonna' get my hands dirty as much as possible. Besides it's
> fun!  I'm having the time of my life learning and applying all this new
> stuff.
>
> So the solution must be a Cisco one -- and I might add it is blasphemy to
> mention the name of Linksys on this list (As an attorney I can make up
rules
> if I want to!!!) 
>
> In any case, thanks for the input.  I really do apprecicate it.
>
> Greg Macaulay
> Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
> Lifetime Member of AARP
> Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
>
>
> Greg,
>
> You are right about the Cisco nedding to be a DHCP client unless you can
get
> a static IP address from your ISP. This may be possible but they may ask
you
> for additional $. You will have to run run DHCP services on the ethernet
> facing your internal pc(s) as well as a NAT
> service.
> I saw someon mention Linksys. That is what I use and it works great. It
has
> NAT and DHCP integrated as well as ports for th ecablemodem and multiple
> ethernet connections. Of course this is assuming you are only after the
> functionality an dnot worried about the experience of configuring this on
> Cisco routers. I think the Linksys routers are around $100-150 new.
>
> Curtis
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Greg Macaulay" 
> To: "Cisco GroupStudy" ; "Curtis Phillips"
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:50 PM
> Subject: RE: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
>
>
> > Curtis --
> >
> > Thanks --
> >
> > I assumed that I would need the 2514 -- (2 ethernet ports) -- which I
> have!
> >
> > As far as configuring DHCP on the router -- I noticed that the PC that I
> > have attached to the cablemodem at present -- is configured to have a
DHCP
> > server provide an ip address -- which is renewed with a different
address
> > every three days (Road Runner).  So I would think that since the Road
> Runner
> > cablemodem will be attached to the e0 port -- that it will need to have
an
> > address assigned to it from Road Runner -- thus why I would set it up
with
> > as a dhcp client.
> > I would also need to configure NAT for the PCs in my network -- I think!
> >
> > Does this make sense??
> >
> > Greg Macaulay
> > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
> > Lifetime Member of AARP
> > Retired Attorney/Law Professor
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Curtis Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 6:07 PM
> > To: Greg Macaulay
> > Subject: Re: Cable modems & 2501s?? [7:13626]
> >
> >
> > Greg,
> >
> > You definitely need a router that has tow ethernet ports as the cable
mode
> m
> > interfaces to ethernet and you will need ethernet to go to either a hub
or
> > switch (if you have more than one system) or to your system.
> >
> > You shouldn;t need to configure DHCP on the Cisco router as the cable
> modem
> > should be functioning as a DHCP client if your ISP uses dynamic

Re: eigrp secondary address(some partical routing lost) [7:13747]

2001-07-25 Thread Debbie Westall

Eric,

You need to have a secondary address on routerA also
to see the 1.1.2.1 network.

>From the Cisco web page:
Note If any router on a network segment uses a
secondary address, all other routers on that same
segment must also use a secondary address from the
same network or subnet. 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios112/112cg_cr/5cbook/5cip.htm#xtocid108363

Good Luck

Debbie
--- Eric ding  wrote:
> such as below:
> routerA(fas0)(fas0)routerB
> routerA#
> interface fas0
> ip add 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
> router ei 1
> net 1.0.0.0
> no au
> 
> routerB#
> interface fas0
> ip add 1.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
> ip add 1.1.2.2 255.255.255.0
> router ei 1
> net 1.0.0.0
> no au
> 
> 
> from the debug ip ei output ,i saw that routerB
> advrtise the route 1.1.2.0
> 255.255.255.0 out fas 0,
> but from the routerA,use sh ip ei to,i can't see
> route to 1.1.2.0 from
> routerA.
> 
> 
> 
> both routers got ios 12.0,ip ei nei established.
> thanks in advance!
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Problems with AIM compression on 3660/2600 [7:13742]

2001-07-25 Thread Simon Watson

Hi Guys I have just installed a 3660 and 7 2600's (the 2600's connected
to the 3660with 256k WAN links via 2 quad serial cards on 3660). ospf
configured(all routers on area 0), I have just changed the compression
from software to hardware to ultilize the AIM modules installed in both
the 3660 & 2600's( I set up PPP Encapsulation from HDLC  on all routers,
and configured compress stac caim 0 on 2600's & compress stac caim 0-3 on
3660) However as soon I made the change I was receiving the OSPF error
message: SPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum from
10.100.6.1, Serial0/0
Jul 25 03:27:15: %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum
from 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0
Jul 25 03:27:21: %OSPF-4-ERRRCV: Received invalid packet: Bad Checksum
from 10.100.6.1, Serial0/0 This was happening on all the 2600's, OSPF
routes were being lost, on when I reverted to software compression the
problem subsided. Has anyone seen this problem before.Pls let me know Rgrds
Simon.



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RE: Good choices for IDS [7:13630]

2001-07-25 Thread Elmer Deloso

Just a heads up on these two choices:
Snort = FREE.
Mantrap/Manhunt = over $100k.
Personally, i'll settle for Snort and IPtrap.

HTH,
Elmer

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Subject: RE: Good choices for IDS [7:13630]


Why not use SNORT if cost efficiency is a major concern? Personally, I like
a combination of several IDS systems including SNORT and Recourse
Technologies Mantrap and Manhunt.

Regards,

David Wolsefer, CCIE #5858

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Hi guys,
I need to find a good and cost efficient IDS solution.  Please
advise.  Please also give me your opinion about BMC Patrol as
well.  Thanks.


-Frank




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Re: HELP needed ON FR SWITCHING ON ISDN [7:13466]

2001-07-25 Thread Makarand Yerawadekar

Hi,

Which IOS you are using??

I read that from IOS 12.2 onwards it supports FR switching on ISDN.


adarsh singh wrote:

> Hi
>
> Needs some insight if you can provide .
>
> My set up is like
>
> router(1)
> BRI--isdn-(BRI)router(2)Serail---FR
> SWITCH.router(3)
>
> My layer 2 comes up when route1 dials into router 2 , but can't ping router
> 3. THE pvc between router 3 & fr swicth is up .If any one has caried out fr
> switching on ISDN pls give me some insight on this .All are cisco routers,
> with compatible IOS.
>
> Regards
> Adarsh
>
> 
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RE: BPX/IGX Q ! [7:13732]

2001-07-25 Thread Graham, Darel R.

Shella,

 This is a normal occurence when a card fails a self test. 
 It will try to correct any errors by doing a resetcd f, 
 you can do a help on resetcd to see the options. 

 You can also do a dspcderrs (card #) to see what errors the 
 card(s) have been taking. If the card has a hardware error
 on the second page of error msg, there will be some numbers,
 if it has a 0B in the first spot replace the card (front and back). 

 Hope this helps,
 Darel Graham
 
 p.s. Working on WAN CCNP

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From: shella kevin
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 7/25/01 5:15 AM
Subject: BPX/IGX Q ! [7:13732]

Is there anyone who is working on BPX or IGX ? Can anyone help me
understanding these logs ? I am new to IGX. I did not remove any card or
inserted. So whats this all about ?

Clear  OC3 13 Inserted - Activated 03/2/01
02:05:58
Clear  LN 13.4 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Clear  LN 13.3 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Clear  LN 13.2 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Clear  LN 13.1 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Info   UXM 13 Activated03/2/01
02:05:57
Info   UXM 13 Inserted 03/2/01
02:05:54
Info   OC3 13 Removed  03/2/01
02:05:39
Clear  Failed UXM 13 Removed   03/2/01
02:05:39

Major  LN 13.4 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  LN 13.3 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  LN 13.2 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  LN 13.1 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  UXM 13 Not Responding - No b ackup available 03/2/01
02:05:24

 

thanks

Shella K.



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Diff b/w cables [7:13741]

2001-07-25 Thread ASM

Hi all,
Could any one differentiate precisely b/w
CAT5/CAT5E/Giga speed cables..i.e distance and speed
limitataions
r
ASm

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OT: Protocol Analysis help needed...! [7:13740]

2001-07-25 Thread Watson, Rick, CTR, OUSDC

To anyone that has some protocol analysis experience can you please contact
me "offline" to discuss some issues that I have. Thanks for your time...and
sorry for the waste of bandwidth.

Rick Watson
Network Engineer
Advanced Systems Development, Inc.
OUSD(Comptroller)
703.697.5710 office
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Re: Certification Statistics [7:13477]

2001-07-25 Thread cheekin

Sorry, there was a typo error.  It should have been Japan: CCNA - 23,689,
CCNP - 2,289.

A close friend pass this on to me.

cheekin

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From: "Sanjay Chaudhry" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 03:32
Subject: Re: Certification Statistics [7:13477]


> Number of CCNAs and CCNPs in Japan are the same?!
> - Original Message -
>
> > > > > FYI.  Breakdown by certification through May 2001
> > > > >
> > > > >  US/CAN EMEA Asia/Pac Americas Japan
> > > > > CCIE 2,876  1,940  755 135
> > 267
> > > > > CCNA87,72426,69434,231 1,972
23,689
> > > > > CCNP20,7789,633  9,244   407
> 23,689
> > > > > CCDA14,8256,580  3,705   652
> 1,038
> > > > > CCDP4,264  3,911  1,449   94
> 245
> > > > >
> > > > > cheekin




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working of net2Phone? [7:13738]

2001-07-25 Thread a. ahmad

dear fellows,
 hi, can any one describe that how from net2phone call is made
everywhere around the world. i just need to know the working. is it internet
telephony? voip? etc.
  thanks
  Ahmad


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Cisco2511 [7:13737]

2001-07-25 Thread Pham Hoang Tung

Dear Group
 I must config systems include  cisco 2511 , server NT  setup Trustme 1.1 on
database SQL7.0 and watchword II of racal
pls show me how to config router  to access the TrustMe server from remote
user with Watchword II over the PSTN
Thanks




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Why can't I ping router interface? [7:13736]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have a Win2K machine which is acting as multihomed PC having 2 ethernet
card .IP adresses for these cards are

Card 1 --  172.16.0.2 255.255.0.0
Card 2 -- 172.16.64.15  255.255.255.0
I have BNC connectivity on 172.16.0.2 side PC wherein the users are trying
to acess applications through router having its ethernet adress as
172.16.64.1 ,now I can ping from pc on BNC (ip address 172.16.0.12 ) to
172.16.0.12 but cannot ping to 172.16.64.15 interface or even the router
interface 172.16.64.1 ,even from the multihomed PC I am unable to ping
172.16.64.1,I have added proper routers on the multihomed pc as well on the
normal pc (172.16.0.12_ using rioute add commands.
Can anyboby help me ?




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wan link utilization. [7:13735]

2001-07-25 Thread Gayathri

Hi Group,

Any thoughts pertaining to this ??

There are 2 locations connected via fast ethernet . Both locations have 7507
routers.

There is a need to replicate files among these two locations . But it seems
that the transfer is very slow.

So In order to speed up the transfer, our AS400 system administrator has
tried to change the buffer size in the AS400.

at default 8K the transfer is slow, at 1M the transfer is the fastest, and
at maximum 8M the transfer is quite slow. During
all these changes, the Dark-Fiber FE utilization remained below 25%.

Would like to know how to maximum the AS400 usage for the FE link without
affecting other traffics that also need
to flow from these two locations.

Why does the transfer slow down when the AS400 buffer size was set to
maximum 8M. I thought the router would just send whatever as long the link
is
not "fully" utilised. Are there any  parameters/settings  apart from
priority list/queuing that we could configure at the router to help to
expedite
the transfer.


Thanks...




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Re: frame-relay route syntax [7:13725]

2001-07-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

!Hola!

> frame-relay route  interface serial  

> Does the dlci refer to the dlci in the frame header or to the dlci at the
> input end of the PVC?

I don't understand what are you referring to by "the dlci in the frame
header"

> Router A dlci 102 --s0 FR_SWITCH S1 ---Router B dlci 103

> interface serial 0
> a) frame-relay route 103 interface serial 1 102
> --or is it --
> b) frame-relay route 102 interface serial 1 103

b is the reasonable answer (and "Configuring Frame Relay" at
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/wan_c/wcdfrely.htm#10654
says that too)

Saludos,
HoraPe
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Can 2501 handle two T1s [7:13733]

2001-07-25 Thread Frank Kim

Hey guys,
I know no one in the world would put two T1s on a 2501 router.  But I
maybe doing this soon.  I am currently using a 7200 router for my two T1s
but I feel like taking it offline and sell it to pay for my ECP1 and my
trip to San Jose for the lab test.  So I'm going take out my 2501 and see
if it can handle two T1s which is constantly pushing at 2.8-3.0 mbps all
the time.  Has anyone done this before?  Am I going to blow up this
router?  Will the cpu utilization go skyrocket?  Thanks for any advice.

-Frank




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BPX/IGX Q ! [7:13732]

2001-07-25 Thread shella kevin

Is there anyone who is working on BPX or IGX ? Can anyone help me
understanding these logs ? I am new to IGX. I did not remove any card or
inserted. So whats this all about ?

Clear  OC3 13 Inserted - Activated 03/2/01
02:05:58
Clear  LN 13.4 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Clear  LN 13.3 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Clear  LN 13.2 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Clear  LN 13.1 OK  03/2/01
02:05:57
Info   UXM 13 Activated03/2/01
02:05:57
Info   UXM 13 Inserted 03/2/01
02:05:54
Info   OC3 13 Removed  03/2/01
02:05:39
Clear  Failed UXM 13 Removed   03/2/01
02:05:39

Major  LN 13.4 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  LN 13.3 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  LN 13.2 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  LN 13.1 Front Card Missing  03/2/01
02:05:24
Major  UXM 13 Not Responding - No b ackup available 03/2/01
02:05:24

 

thanks

Shella K.



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