Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Phantom

Hi

I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't disable
split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are correct
and for which routing protocols can I do it.

Thanks for the help

Pieter Jordaan




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Re: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Fanglo

Hi,

Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what situation?

Regards,
Fanglo

Phantom wrote:

Hi

I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't disable
split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are correct
and for which routing protocols can I do it.

Thanks for the help

Pieter Jordaan




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Re: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Phantom

Hi

Neither books give any details as to why you would do it. The one says you
can if you want (may in situations where you are using fram relay. The other
book says you can't disable it at all (ever).

Thanks


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 Hi,

 Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what
situation?

 Regards,
 Fanglo

 Phantom wrote:

 Hi
 
 I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
disable
 split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are
correct
 and for which routing protocols can I do it.
 
 Thanks for the help
 
 Pieter Jordaan




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Re: All-In-One, Lab #43, BGP path selection [7:19182]

2001-09-10 Thread EA Louie

yes.  The network statement that the authors used for OSPF would include
that interface, so they decided that prevent RouterB and RouterC from
sending updates to RouterA by issuing a passive-inteface statement.

Think about why they did that - one reason they did that is because RouterA
is in a different BGP autonomous system, and one typically prevents IGP
updates from going out to an EBGP neighbor.  The network from ser0/0 still
needs to be advertised out ser0/1 (within the same BGP AS), hence its
inclusion in the OSPF process.

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: All-In-One, Lab #43, BGP path selection [7:19182]


 Group,

 There is a 'passive-interface Serial0/0' subcommand under 'router ospf 64'
 on both RouterB and RouterC. When I do a 'sh ip ospf  int s0', I can see
 something like 'No Hellos  '.

 Am I correct to assume that this 'passive-int serial0/0' is configured to
 prevent RouterB and RouterC from sending Hello packets out of their
 Serial0/0 interface to RouterA ?
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OffTopic: Cable Operators [7:19236]

2001-09-10 Thread Alec Smiths

Hi all,

Is there anyone who works for a cable multiservice
operator that use Cisco equipment? If you are the one,
please reply to me in private please. 

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Re: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Philip Jache

you can't disable split horizon for IPX RIP.

Phil


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Re: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread EA Louie

For Cisco, the only IPX routing protocol that allows disabling of
split-horizon is eigrp.  See (watch URL wrap)
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/33.html
for that and other IPX case studies, and search for split-horizon in the
text for your specific issue.  The solution given by Cisco is to use
point-to-point sub-interfaces if using IPX RIP to work around the IPX
split-horizon issue.

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To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:06 AM
Subject: Re: Question about split horizon  IPX [7:19232]


 Hi

 Neither books give any details as to why you would do it. The one says you
 can if you want (may in situations where you are using fram relay. The
other
 book says you can't disable it at all (ever).

 Thanks


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  Hi,
 
  Can you specify why your book state you cannot do so? Under what
 situation?
 
  Regards,
  Fanglo
 
  Phantom wrote:
 
  Hi
  
  I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
 disable
  split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these are
 correct
  and for which routing protocols can I do it.
  
  Thanks for the help
  
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PIX OID [7:19241]

2001-09-10 Thread BASSOLE Rock

Hi group,


We are currently using the MRTG tool to monitor our Internet Access. This
tool has help us take decision regarding the upgrade of our link to the
Internet. Behind our router's we have Cisco PIX Firewall. We would like to
monitor the number of connections made trought our PIX with MRTG. Can you
please indicate me the correct ObjectID in order to monitor the number of
connections/s made trought the PIX. Any information regarding other
ObjectIDs, for the cisco PIX, that we should monitor in order to determine
the usage is welcome.

Thank you  group

Rock BASSOLE
Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03




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QUERY ON IPX WAN [7:19242]

2001-09-10 Thread Grad Alfons Kanon

Hi all,

need help,

does any one know how to ensure that physical interface on FR connection has 
been point to point..?
I can't find out. I was only able if I am using FR sub interface point to 
point.

thanks

Grad

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Re: Renting equipment [7:18766]

2001-09-10 Thread EA Louie

same here, my time is Sunday 9/23, 6:00 pm-11:25 pm PDT.  If anyone wants to
share it with me (for free), please reply off-list.  I just want about 3
hours with it to work on voice configurations (to make sure that mine will
work).

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From: McMasters, Eric 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: Renting equipment [7:18766]


 Actually I books a block of time for Monday (9/10) yesterday morning after
I
 read Mark's original email.  A couple of minutes later I received
 confirmation and I'm all set for Monday.  That's just what happened for me
 though. :-  Hope everyone has a great weekend!

 GO CHIEFS!!!

 Eric

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 Subject: Re: Renting equipment [7:18766]


 Actually, the free lab days have been booked for some time now.
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  www.bfq.com for the next month they have this equipment and you can use
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Re: Router as name server?? [7:19146]

2001-09-10 Thread Charles Manafa

I believe only the Distributed Director (4700-M), and most probably Cat6k
and 7200 running SLB, can act as a DNS server. IMHO

CM
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From: Ednilson Rosa 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 2:40 AM
Subject: Router as name server?? [7:19146]


 Hi List!

 Is there any way of making a router act as a name server for the host
names
 that are configured on it by the ip host command?? I would like to enter
 the hostnames of all routers of a network only on the central router and
 have it resolve the names for the other routers, instead of having to
enter
 the ip host commands in every router or using a real dns server. Is that
 possible??

 Regards,

 ER




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feedback on a configuration [7:19246]

2001-09-10 Thread farhan

hello everybody,

please provide your feedback on the following configuration sent to me by a
client

i know some of the faults in it but i would like to hear more..

the ips are changed..for security


!
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
no ip domain-lookup
!
no ip bootp server
ip inspect audit-trail
ip inspect max-incomplete high 1100
ip inspect one-minute high 1100
ip inspect tcp max-incomplete host 50 block-time 10
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 tcp
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 udp
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 ftp
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 h323
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 cuseeme
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 realaudio
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 smtp
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 streamworks
ip inspect name Ethernet_0 vdolive
ip inspect name Serial_0 tcp
ip inspect name Serial_0 udp
ip inspect name Serial_0 ftp
ip inspect name Serial_0 h323
ip inspect name Serial_0 cuseeme
ip inspect name Serial_0 realaudio
ip inspect name Serial_0 smtp
ip inspect name Serial_0 streamworks
ip inspect name Serial_0 vdolive
isdn switch-type basic-net3
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 214.170.253.33 255.255.255.224 secondary
 ip address 214.170.253.1 255.255.255.224
 ip access-group 100 in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 ip inspect Ethernet_0 in
 no cdp enable
 hold-queue 100 in
 hold-queue 100 out
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 shutdown
 no cdp enable
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 shutdown
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI0
 description connected to Internet
 ip unnumbered Ethernet0
 ip access-group 101 in
 no ip redirects
 no ip unreachables
 ip inspect Serial_0 in
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer idle-timeout 2147483
 dialer string 400
 dialer hold-queue 100
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-net3
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication chap callin
 ppp chap hostname kspc-0012
 ppp chap password 7 130607010F01
 hold-queue 100 in
 hold-queue 100 out
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 BRI0
no ip http server
!
no logging trap
access-list 100 permit tcp host 214.170.253.4 any
access-list 100 permit udp host 214.170.253.4 any
access-list 100 permit udp host 214.170.253.47 host 194.170.1.6 eq doma
access-list 100 permit udp host 214.170.253.47 host 194.170.1.7 eq doma
access-list 100 permit udp host 214.170.253.48 host 194.170.1.6 eq doma
access-list 100 permit udp host 214.170.253.48 host 194.170.1.7 eq doma
access-list 100 permit tcp host 214.170.253.47 any eq smtp
access-list 100 permit tcp host 214.170.253.10 any
access-list 100 permit tcp host 214.170.253.50 any
access-list 100 deny   icmp any any redirect
access-list 100 deny   ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
access-list 100 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 31.255.255.255 any
access-list 100 deny   ip host 0.0.0.0 any
access-list 101 deny   ip 214.170.253.0 0.0.0.127 any log-input
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.47 eq smtp
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.47 eq pop3
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.47 eq domain
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.48 eq smtp
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.48 eq pop3
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.47 eq 143
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.10 eq www
access-list 101 permit tcp any host 214.170.253.50 eq 3389
access-list 101 permit udp any 214.170.253.0 0.0.0.127 eq domain
access-list 101 deny   icmp any any redirect
access-list 101 deny   ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any
access-list 101 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 31.255.255.255 any
access-list 101 deny   ip host 0.0.0.0 any
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
dialer-list 1 protocol ipx permit
no cdp run
!
line con 0
 password 7 060B0B32455A
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password 7 060B0B32455A
 login
!
end




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Re: web pages not loading (from certain networks) but not a [7:19247]

2001-09-10 Thread Gareth Hinton

This is a question which is probably a little off topic, and probably not
relevant to the question, but I've been wondering about it for a while
(minutes anyway).
We had a similar problem although fairly localised that certain users within
a network could not access certain web servers.
Turned out to be the 'Do not Fragment' bit set on the server, and the
traffic was being passed over a Triple DES link which pushed the packet size
over the default MTU of 1500.
I changed the encapsulation to PPP and upped the MTU to get over it.
These same users are accessing the internet over the same link, with no
problems, so I take it that setting the 'Do not Fragment' bit is not a
regular thing?

So after all that prattle, the question is:

What is the reason for setting the 'Do not Fragment' bit?

 I remember reading somewhere that later versions of IOS have a setting
which basically ignores this bit, but why set it on the server if it is OK
to ignore it.

Cheers,

Gaz

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 In answer to this puzzle, the consensus on NANOG was that the problem may
be
 related to an MTU mismatch.

 A couple of folks keyed in on DSL and the described symptom, and noted
 that there have been similar problems caused by MTU issues within the
DSLAMS
 used by the carriers noted in the message below.

 As of this writing, the guy who asked the question has not reported any
 further information.

 Chuck

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 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 7:40 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: FW: web pages not loading (from certain networks) but not a
 [7:19074]


 Saw this one on NANOG today. Any of you troubleshooting gurus want to take
a
 crack?

 ( BTW, I believe I saw this problem myself today. OTOH, my issue could
have
 been related to that stupid proxy my employer now makes me use. ;- )

 I'll post the answer the NANOG folks suggested later this weekend.

 Chuck

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 Subject: web pages not loading (from certain networks) but not a routing
 issue.



 Ok guys,

 Interesting problem that seems to have started on Friday.

 Here's the deal, it seems that certain (not all) web pages on various
sites
 we host are not loading for certain customers. It started on Friday with
 visitors on Verizon DSL waiting forever for pages to load.

 Yesterday and today PacBell DSL and some Netcom customers started
 complaining.

 This only seems to occur on HTTP traffic. If we have the visitors try
HTTPS
 the pages load fine (with the normal encryption slowdown).

 We've looked at Layers 1-4, and can't see any problems, ping looks great,
 interfaces and cpus on routers, servers and switches look fine.

 It's almost like it's a transparent cache bug. Anyone know if Inktomi,
or
 any major cache vendors rolled out any new code this week?

 For that matter does anyone know what caches Verizon and SBC use for
 starters?

 Other variables: it only seems to occur on IIS based systems (I know I
know,
 no flame wars or suggestions for replacements). Although it's not
happening
 on all of our IIS servers.

 Any clues are greatly appreciated.

 Steve




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RE: TCP seq changed when cross Cisco PIX 525 [7:18764]

2001-09-10 Thread Anatoly Shein

Hi
I think you misunderstood me.

1. I'm worried about hackers like all other people in the world.
2. Described software not of such type, because it is not really opens TCP
connection tube. 
a) TCP on machine that running software is not aware about sent SYN
frames, 
therefore any attack related on my sequence number will have
same effect
as any other attack with random sequence number.
b) TCP on target machine, is in SYN/RECVD state, i.e. also useless,
relative to my software,
 for attacker, It can easy put it to same state.
actually a thing that I did for it, sent SYN packet, that
any kid can construct with any IP 
address and any seq number.

Any way thank you for notice.
Toly


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Subject: RE: TCP seq changed when cross Cisco PIX 525 [7:18764]


At 09:30 AM 9/9/01, Anatoly Shein wrote:
Hi
I'm not worried about hackers, the sending probe machine is not configured
to

You're different from the rest of the world then.

receive any packet of this port. Actually probe is not sent via TCP stack,
but using raw socket
Therefore any hackers attempt to sent me packet will be answered with RST
frame.

Not if you're under attach and are unable to send a RST.

Also I don't see any disadvantages of seq=1, it is easy to guess what is
the
next seq number

Well, the rest of the world, especially security experts, see a 
disadvantage with seq = 1.

also if you start from 342353122, for example.
seq can be easy computed as seq next = seq + len + ( ( SYN | FIN )  flags
)
? 1 : 0;
Am I wrong ?

The problem occurs where the hacker doesn't actually see the first frame 
and has no idea what the sequence number is but is still able to send a 
reply that looks legitimate.

It's documented in most security explanations. Do some research. Check 
descriptions of IP spoofing. I did a search on Google and immediately found 
this article that looks pretty good:

http://www.fc.net/phrack/files/p48/p48-14.html

Priscilla


toly
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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 6:49 AM
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Subject: Re: TCP seq changed when cross Cisco PIX 525 [7:18764]


Always starting with TCP sequence number 1 is a bad thing. It makes it easy
for a hacker to guess what the sequence number is and insert himself into a
connection establishment.

So PIX and other firewalls let you randomize the starting sequence number
for TCP implementations that don't already do this.

Priscilla

At 02:48 AM 9/6/01, Anatoly Shein wrote:
 Hi
 I was encountered with strange situation.
 Probably one of your can help/heard about something alike.
 
 Problem description:
 There is sun machine connected to pair of Cisco PIX 525
 On sun there is software sent TCP SYN probe packets
 with sequence number starts from 1 and increments for each packet.
 packets sent 1 for 50 mili seconds
 When packet cross router the sequence number is changed.
 This change is consistent for one set of packets but is not
 for subsequent set of packets
 
 for example :
 before ciscoafter cisco
 1. TCP syn seq = 1  seq = 1 + x
 2. TCP syn seq = 2  seq = 2 + x
 3. TCP syn seq = 3  seq = 3 + x
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Cisco Security Exam [7:19249]

2001-09-10 Thread Quek, Steven

Hi,

This has been a great Cisco study site and enjoy most of it for the abundant
of info that is shared
on the discussion.

Currently I am preparing for the Cisco Security Track and seeking some
advise.
I had been to Cisco site and there seems to have 4 exams to pass:

1) MCNS
2) Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Advanced (CSPFA)
3) Cisco Secure Intrusion Detention System (CSIDS)
4) Cisco Secure VPN (CSVPN)

Question is that must I pass the above exams? Need some confirmation on this

Next I would appreciate greatly if anyone can recommend me the books to read
up for each of
the exam.

Thank you very much  have a nice day.

With regards
Steven Quek
Compaq Computer Asia Pte Ltd
Professional Service
Main: 65-786 2288
DID: 65-580 5176
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RE: Cisco Security Exam [7:19249]

2001-09-10 Thread Matthew Crane

Hi Steven

To do the full Cisco Security thing you must take 5 exams as follows and
preferably in this order
MCNS
Pix Firewall Fundamentals
Pix Firewall Advanced
Cisco Secure VPN
Cisco Intrusion Detection

The reason for this approach as I always tell my staff  students is that
the MCNS is comprehensive and gives you a great deal of material in the
other exams, especially the area of IKE, IPsec, ISAKMP etc.

Books Cisco Press 
Managing Cisco Network Security
Designing Network Security
Cisco IOS 12.0 Network Security
Cisco Secure Internet Security Solutions

There is also the McGraw Hill Implementing Cisco Secure VPN's but that is so
full of holes and errors I would not bother. There is a book from cisco
Press on VPN's due late 2001 written by Andrew Mason  Terri Smith and if it
is half as good as Terri is as a VPN course instructor then it will be well
worth the money.

The odd one out is CSIDS which requires a deal of Unix knowledge especially
Solaris, plus some Openview stuff.

The key to all the exams is understand fully IKE, ISAkmp and the security
process of why  how.

If you have not done CCNP or the BCRAN part of CCNPO then i wopuld recommend
you take a look at it as background to the IOS side of security.

Good luck and if you need any further specific info email me direct.

Quek, Steven wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 This has been a great Cisco study site and enjoy most of it for
 the abundant
 of info that is shared
 on the discussion.
 
 Currently I am preparing for the Cisco Security Track and
 seeking some
 advise.
 I had been to Cisco site and there seems to have 4 exams to
 pass:
 
 1) MCNS
 2) Cisco Secure PIX Firewall Advanced (CSPFA)
 3) Cisco Secure Intrusion Detention System (CSIDS)
 4) Cisco Secure VPN (CSVPN)
 
 Question is that must I pass the above exams? Need some
 confirmation on this
 
 Next I would appreciate greatly if anyone can recommend me the
 books to read
 up for each of
 the exam.
 
 Thank you very much  have a nice day.
 
 With regards
 Steven Quek
 Compaq Computer Asia Pte Ltd
 Professional Service
 Main: 65-786 2288
 DID: 65-580 5176
 Mobile: 65-9797 4526
 
 




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Re: Cisco Security Exam [7:19249]

2001-09-10 Thread NKP

Exam for PIX firewall Fundamentals has expired as on July 2nd 2001 ,ie test
no : 9EO-559 , do check it up ,the training courseis still there from Cisco
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Len Lee/CHI/NTRS is out of the office. [7:19252]

2001-09-10 Thread Len Lee

I will be out of the office starting  September 10, 2001 and will not return
until September 14, 2001.

I will respond to your message when I return.

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RE: Load Sharing vs Load Balance [7:18821]

2001-09-10 Thread Chhetri Naresh

Hi Dennis,

The site below explains how to implement load sharing using BGP.
Bcos of the very nature of BGP you can have one best route anad hence u can
implement load sharing and not load balancing.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/459/40.html

THanks
Naresh


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Re: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is only for IPX RIP.
Rob H. NP, DP, blah,blah,blah.




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RE: VERY Inexpensive DRAM for 2500 Series Routers! [7:19185]

2001-09-10 Thread Greg Macaulay

I referrred to Chuck Senior because of his elder knowledge and because
I've learned that he is a closet AARP member!! 

Greg M.

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Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 2:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VERY Inexpensive DRAM for 2500 Series Routers! [7:19185]


 I passed this subject by the Paul B., the List Moderator  Chuck L. (Sr.
 List Guru!) before posting this and have their OK to go forward.  So don't
 waste BW by flaming me!

geez, Chuck... how Sr. ARE you???  ;-)

and Greg, thanks for the info re:  2500 memory




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Re: PIX OID [7:19241]

2001-09-10 Thread Allen May

A search on google.com for +pix +mrtg brought me here:
http://www.hcity.net/~nomad/pix.html

- Original Message -
From: BASSOLE Rock 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:19 AM
Subject: PIX OID [7:19241]


 Hi group,


 We are currently using the MRTG tool to monitor our Internet Access. This
 tool has help us take decision regarding the upgrade of our link to the
 Internet. Behind our router's we have Cisco PIX Firewall. We would like to
 monitor the number of connections made trought our PIX with MRTG. Can you
 please indicate me the correct ObjectID in order to monitor the number of
 connections/s made trought the PIX. Any information regarding other
 ObjectIDs, for the cisco PIX, that we should monitor in order to determine
 the usage is welcome.

 Thank you  group

 Rock BASSOLE
 Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03




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RE: Cisco Security Exam [7:19249]

2001-09-10 Thread Paul Jin

Last year, passing MCNS gave you a specialization in security if
you had your CCNP or CCDP but since has changed and you must pass
all the exams..

Last year I belive only the MCNS book was available to buy but
since the exam format has changed, they are releasing more books..
I guess they found out that not everyone can go take all those classes...



http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?book=196

http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?series=1book=82

http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?series=1book=170

http://www.ciscopress.com/book.cfm?series=1book=79


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CCIE Written [7:19260]

2001-09-10 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I passed my CCIE written on Friday with an 810. Thanks to everybody on the
list that has helped. I would like to especially thank Dennis Laganiere and
the guys at Network Learning Inc. (aka ccbootcamp). I used all of the books
mentioned before on the list along with the CCIE written class that
ccbootcamp.com put on. Every one there was very professional and I
appreciate the extra time they spent with me and the others to really nail
down the concepts I had troubles with. I don't know if they are planning on
doing another CCIE written class, but I would highly recommend them to train
you if they do. On to the real challenge of the lab.


Jeremy Wright




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Re: PIX OID [7:19241]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try searching

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=enlr
=safe=offgroup=comp.dcom.net-management

I'm pretty certain it has come up before.



H.T.H.


Dom Stocqueler



   

   
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respond
to
   
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Rock
   

   





Hi group,


We are currently using the MRTG tool to monitor our Internet Access. This
tool has help us take decision regarding the upgrade of our link to the
Internet. Behind our router's we have Cisco PIX Firewall. We would like to
monitor the number of connections made trought our PIX with MRTG. Can you
please indicate me the correct ObjectID in order to monitor the number of
connections/s made trought the PIX. Any information regarding other
ObjectIDs, for the cisco PIX, that we should monitor in order to determine
the usage is welcome.

Thank you  group

Rock BASSOLE
Til: +33 (0) 1 45 96 22 03




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Re: CCIE Written [7:19260]

2001-09-10 Thread James Haynes

Congratulations.

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CQS-SNA/IPSS

Wright, Jeremy  wrote in message
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 I passed my CCIE written on Friday with an 810. Thanks to everybody on the
 list that has helped. I would like to especially thank Dennis Laganiere
and
 the guys at Network Learning Inc. (aka ccbootcamp). I used all of the
books
 mentioned before on the list along with the CCIE written class that
 ccbootcamp.com put on. Every one there was very professional and I
 appreciate the extra time they spent with me and the others to really nail
 down the concepts I had troubles with. I don't know if they are planning
on
 doing another CCIE written class, but I would highly recommend them to
train
 you if they do. On to the real challenge of the lab.


 Jeremy Wright




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Re: Privilege Level command driving me nuts!! [7:19158]

2001-09-10 Thread sam sneed

The answer to this is defintitely no.


Cisco Nuts  wrote in message
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 That's pretty coolFree TACACS server !!!  I have configured TACACS
 before and yes we did have to put a login local option should the tacacs
 server fail. I was just playing around with the privilege command. Thanks
 for your help.

 I have a Unix box at work. Can I download the tacacs software on it,
 compile it and then use it on a NT 4.0 box? Any instructions/directions
 that you can provide is highly appreciated.



 From: Sean Young Reply-To: Sean Young To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Privilege Level command driving me nuts!! [7:19158] Date:
 Sun, 9 Sep 2001 11:07:08 -0400  Don't mess around with privilege level
 command. Jeff is correct is that you should build yourself a TACACS
 server (after all, it is free). Another thing, Authorization, does it
 ring a bell? Even with TACACS, one of the complaint that I've heard
 about customers is that somehow, if the router can NOT reach TACACS
 server, somehow you will have to configure local authorization (i.e. on
 the router) for this to work. If the router can reach TACACS server,
 authorization on TACACS server can provide very fine granular control
 over what a user can/can't do. Download the TACACS source code from
 Cisco website and compile it on a UNIX box and you will have a TACACS
 server to play with. It is very simple.   From: Jeff Chambers
 Reply-To: Jeff Chambers To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:
 Privilege Level command driving me nuts!! [7:19158] Date: Sun, 9 Sep
 2001 02:00:50 -0400  You can reset a command to its normal priv level
 using the format  privilege exec reset put_the_entire_command_here 
 Configuring privilege levels for commands on a router can be very
 frustrating. It also doesn't scale well in a medium to large network.
 The best production method I have found is to use TACACS. You can
 assign all users privilege level 15 and allow or deny commands at the
 user or group level. In my testing (it has been 9 months or so, this
 may have changed), the user must be at privilege level  15 in order to
 receive valid output from the show running-configuration  command. It
 will return a blank configuration if the user is not at privilege level
 15.  Jeff.  -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco Nuts Sent: Sunday,
 September 09, 2001 12:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Subject:
 Privilege Level command driving me nuts!! [7:19158]   Hi,I am trying
 to configure privilege exec level commands on my router but am going
 nuts at the output of these commands:Basically, here is what I have
 configured:#enable secret level 3 cisco! #privilege exec level 3 
 ping#privilege exec level 3 traceroute#privilege exec level 3 show ip 
 route#privilege exec level 3 show startup-configuration#privilege exex 
 level 3 show running-configuration!# When I do a log in using enable 
 secret level 3, I can get the output of the #sh star command but not of
  the #sh ru command?Also, when I do a sh ru on the router using regular
  privilege level(15), I see 2 additional commands automatically
 configured for me:#privilege exec level 1 show#privilege exec level 1
 show ip It will NOT let me remove these 2 commands nor will it let me
 change this to privilege level 3.Nor will it let me remove any
 individual commands!!What's going on? Any ideas? Thank you for your
 help.Kind regards.Nuts!!  
 
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Re: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]

2001-09-10 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Yeah

- Original Message -
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm 
To: 
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:59 PM
Subject: RE: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]


 Actually, it's likely the lawyer fresh out of lawschool will do a better
job
 than the cratchety old lawyer that's had a few years to become jaded by
the
 system or to get an over-inflated view of themselves.  The new kid on the
 block has something to prove so he'll go that extra mile to do a superb
job.
 Did I mention I used to head up an IT division at a major Canadian law
firm?
 (-:

 My point is... experience doesn't always matter.  Brilliance and the
 willingness to do a good job can compensate quite well for experience.



  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Chuck Larrieu
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:48 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]
 
 
  hey, Brad, aren't you the guy who was complaining on the other list
about
  what the one day lab would end up doing? ;-
 
  may I point out that the CPA or the State Bar, or the real estate
broker's
  exam, for that matter, are very difficult, and only a small percentage
of
  takers pass first time through. So who do you want doing your taxes -
the
  guy fresh out of accounting school, or the guy with a few years
  experience?
  How about if you find yourself in court for one reason or
  another? Want that
  lawyer fresh out of law school who happened to pass the bar first try
  through? Hey - he's smart enough! Isn't he?
 
  and for those wondering, I deliberately avoided using real estate broker
  examples because the house its up for sale, and I don't care about
  credentials, just as long as I get my price. Any CCIE's out there want
to
  come live in California?
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Brad Ellis
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:10 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]
 
 
  Chuck,
 
  Hi!  Don't get me wrong, Im not saying CCIE's sh*t don't stink!!!
   I know a
  few CCIEs that I would let touch my network.  However, I consider that
the
  EXCEPTION and not the RULE.  As a general rule of thumb, I
  consider the CCIE
  level of knowledge and applicable skills to be higher than minimal
  competence.  I suppose it really depends on your definition of minimal
  competence.  I define minimal competence as someone who has a
fundamental
  understanding of networking with a small amount of hands-on experience.
I
  would generally classify a CCIE to have a more in-depth understanding of
  networking fundamentals and quite a bit more hands-on experience than
  someone with minimal competence.
 
  Mr. Seltzer's writing says that the average CCIE is minimally competent
in
  the product (I'd guess he was referring to Cisco).  I think that's like
  saying NBA basketball players are minimally competent basketball
players.
  To Michael Jordan that's probably true, but Im sure the general
  public would
  disagree.  I suppose it really comes down to your definition of minimal
  competence.  I have a great deal of respect for the majority of other
  CCIE's who I have come in contact with and consider calling them
minimally
  competent to be an insult.
 
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796
 
  Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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   like everything else in this business, the answer is it depends.
  
   sorry folks, but CCIE's are not gods who walk among us.
  
   I personally know several CCIE's who are top notch and
  deserving of every
   dollar they get and every contract they land.
  
   I also personally know a couple who couldn't tell you how a packet
gets
  from
   one interface to another in a router.
  
   all the CCIE certification proves is that you have passed Cisco's lab
  test.
   It does not prove one way or another whether you know jack about
  networking.
   I suggest that there is a percentage of the 2000 or so who have
attained
  the
   cert since last year who did so only because they successfully
memorized
   enough scenario configurations that they were able to luck their way
  through
   when their lab closely resembled one of those scenarios they
memorized.
  
   I personally know several folks who passed over the last 18 months
whose
   only hands on experience was in their practice labs. Of these, all
were
   pretty sharp dudes, by the way.
  
   From personal experience I can tell you that I saw absolutely nothing
in
  my
   lab that made me wish I'd spent more time reading RFC's, or
  Comer, or any
  of
   the other great books of the networking world. I saw plenty that made
me
   wish I'd spent more time on certain practice materials readily
available
  ( I
   refer to the commercially available products. please do not
  contact me for
   names and sources )
  
   whenever this topic comes up, I see 

Re: Access-list and Port Scanner [7:19123]

2001-09-10 Thread sam sneed

Here is a even better one for windows, free download.

http://www.languard.com/languard/languard.htm

Will Francis  wrote in message
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 Hi Guys

 I'm currently looking at how secure are access-lists to act as a firewall.
 Guy I'm having no luck at all finding a windows port scanner which is
 similar to port scanners on Linux/Unix platform, for instance let say
NMAP.

 Come on windows guys, however we wont get in to a conversation about
 platforms windows/Linux  here, just after a good port scanner.

 cheers




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Cisco 804 Problem [7:19266]

2001-09-10 Thread Kelly D Griffin

Has anyone experienced a problem with the 800 series that makes one of the
POTS ports go off-hook and stay that way?  I have an 804 that port 1 has
gone off-hook and I cannot get it to reset itself.  I have reloaded the
router, re-programmed, and reloaded the IOS and still have the same problem.
I called SBC and they show the ISDN line as being in service.

Help?

Kelly D Griffin, CCDA, CCNA
Network Engineer
Kg2 Network Design
http://kg2.com
877.418.4025 Toll-Free
501.418.4026 Fax

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Multicast traffic tunnelling [7:19267]

2001-09-10 Thread kwock99

Hi All,

Just checking anyone has the experience on the multicast tunnelling
configuration.

I have configured three routers to use the Sparse mode for multicast traffice
and they works perfectly.

After I remove the centre router command, ip pim sparse-mode and try to use
the tunnel to conect the first and third router. I have problem.

I use the following command to config the tunnel within the first and third
router.

interface tunnel0
ip unnumbered type number
tunnel source ip-addressa
tunnel destination ip-address

It seems that the mulitcast traffic does not go to the tunnel automatically.
I
have tried the ip mroute 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 tunnel0. And it does not help. For
simplicity, I use all the ethernet port for the connection.

Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.


Francis




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Re: Easyip cable modem [7:19187]

2001-09-10 Thread Bob Lepine

Yes, the 10 nework is the next hop out of my router. I did a trace to find
what the hops were so that's what I used. I now have my 2900 switch hooked
up to it and it works great!!

Bob
Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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 interestingly, there was a short thread on NANOG about increased instances
 of script kiddie behaviour now that the college kids are back in the
dorms.
 Just tonight there were a couple of posts about a big probe coming into
 someone's network, and originating from three particular blocks in Taiwan.

 get your NBAR up and running!

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Tony Medeiros
 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 3:13 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Easyip  cable modem [7:19187]


 Now you need to setup a fat access-list or CBAC for some security from all
 the idiots on your cable subnet.  You wouldn't believe the probes I get
 every day!!  This will be a little challanging for you cus of your dynamic
 address.  Of course, since your router will be up all the time, chances
are
 you will keep renewing the same IP.  Let me know if you need some help on
 that.  Better do it soon cus NAT won't protect you much, and you
definitely
 need protecting.  I run IDS on my router and log all the probes and @!#$
 heads spoffing internal address and stuff.  And believe me, that log gets
 pretty large especially when school is out !!

 Take care
 Tony

 - Original Message -
 From: Bob Lepine
 To:
 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 10:39 AM
 Subject: Easyip  cable modem [7:19187]


  Woohoo. I got it working. I have my 2600 hooked up to my cable modem of
  which I am a DHCP client. Thanks to the group for helping me figure this
 one
  out! (Especially Tony Medieros and Leigh Anne Chisholm) I have now
hooked
  the router up to my 2900 switch and have access to the net with all my
  computer. This will greatly enhance my studies. I am listing the
  configuration for those who need to do the same.
  Names have been altered to protect the innocent!
  Current configuration : 997 bytes
  !
  version 12.1
  no service single-slot-reload-enable
  service timestamps debug uptime
  service timestamps log uptime
  service password-encryption
  !
  hostname BobRouter
  !
  logging rate-limit console 10 except errors
  enable password 7 045907031F23404B13
  !
  ip subnet-zero
  !
  !
  no ip finger
  ip host laptop 192.168.0.3
  ip name-server 24.229.12.230
  ip name-server 204.186.0.201
  ip name-server 204.186.0.203
  !
  !
  !
  !
  interface Ethernet0/0
   ip address dhcp
   ip nat outside
   half-duplex
  !
  interface Serial0/0
   no ip address
   shutdown
  !
  interface BRI0/0
   no ip address
   shutdown
  !
  interface Ethernet0/1
   ip address 192.168.0.6 255.255.255.0
   ip nat inside
   half-duplex
  !
  ip default-gateway 10.227.49.1
  ip nat inside source list 10 interface Ethernet0/0 overload
  ip classless
  ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.227.49.1
  no ip http server
  !
  access-list 10 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255
  no cdp run
  !
  line con 0
   transport input none
  line aux 0
  line vty 0 4
   password 7 05090A0A314E420C03
   login
  !
  no scheduler allocate
  end
 
  --
  Bob Lepine
  MCSE,MCDBA,CNA,CCNA,MCT




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Re: CCIE Written [7:19260]

2001-09-10 Thread Dennis H

Congrats... now just that little detail called the lab ;-)



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 --
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 Network Architect
 Cendant IT
 A+,MCSE,CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCDP,
 CQS-SNA/IPSS

 Wright, Jeremy  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I passed my CCIE written on Friday with an 810. Thanks to everybody on
the
  list that has helped. I would like to especially thank Dennis Laganiere
 and
  the guys at Network Learning Inc. (aka ccbootcamp). I used all of the
 books
  mentioned before on the list along with the CCIE written class that
  ccbootcamp.com put on. Every one there was very professional and I
  appreciate the extra time they spent with me and the others to really
nail
  down the concepts I had troubles with. I don't know if they are planning
 on
  doing another CCIE written class, but I would highly recommend them to
 train
  you if they do. On to the real challenge of the lab.
 
 
  Jeremy Wright




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IOS [7:19270]

2001-09-10 Thread Will Francis

Guys

I'm trying to configure an 2503 to do IP ADDRESS NEGOTIATED, receive dhcp
ip address and do nat for my test lab at work. Guys I got a couple of IOS
c2500-is-l.120-9.bin and c2500-d-l.120-9.bin, which one will do the above.

Will


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Re: Boson test sofware [7:18765]

2001-09-10 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Call and ask for Chad Altman he will hook you up.

- Original Message -
From: Hoa Ngo 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: Boson test sofware [7:18765]


 I bought 2 CCIE written tests 1 and 2. After upgrading, they are gone. I
 email them, but no response.
 Howard

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Boson test sofware [7:18765]
 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 02:59:41 -0400
 
 Get it from www.boson.com . The registration would work for the new
 versions
 as well unless you ..
 In which case, you probably should be not be asking here..
 
 
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   can anybody send me  boson test version 3.5 or 3.6 plz I lost mine and
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   have to install the old tests again.
   Thanks
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Re: CCIE Exam [7:18808]

2001-09-10 Thread David Goddard

Manny,

  I totally agree with John. So much theory that you see in the CCIE written
is covered in the CCNP tests. Plus, it takes a while to get the CCIE number
behind your name, while you could have CCNP after your name after passing
just one more written test. I personally recommend knocking out your last
test, and then take the written.

  Whatever you decide, good luck!

Dave


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Re: Multicast traffic tunnelling [7:19267]

2001-09-10 Thread Marcos Hernandez

You are missing the ip pim x command withing the Interface Tunnel config.


kwock99  wrote in message
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 Hi All,

 Just checking anyone has the experience on the multicast tunnelling
 configuration.

 I have configured three routers to use the Sparse mode for multicast
traffice
 and they works perfectly.

 After I remove the centre router command, ip pim sparse-mode and try to
use
 the tunnel to conect the first and third router. I have problem.

 I use the following command to config the tunnel within the first and
third
 router.

 interface tunnel0
 ip unnumbered type number
 tunnel source ip-addressa
 tunnel destination ip-address

 It seems that the mulitcast traffic does not go to the tunnel
automatically.
 I
 have tried the ip mroute 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 tunnel0. And it does not help.
For
 simplicity, I use all the ethernet port for the connection.

 Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.


 Francis




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RE: IOS [7:19270]

2001-09-10 Thread Kelly D Griffin

You will need a T version of the IOS to do DHCP negotiation.

Kelly D Griffin, CCDA, CCNA
Network Engineer
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Guys

I'm trying to configure an 2503 to do IP ADDRESS NEGOTIATED, receive dhcp
ip address and do nat for my test lab at work. Guys I got a couple of IOS
c2500-is-l.120-9.bin and c2500-d-l.120-9.bin, which one will do the above.

Will

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Concert Frame Relay - ? [7:19276]

2001-09-10 Thread Ouellette, Tim

Can anyone explain what Concert Frame Relay (CRFS) is?  Is there a
difference between it and the standard Frame Relay ?  If someone could shed
some light on this, or even point me to a place where I can do some more
reading I would be grateful. Thanks

Tim




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RE: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I did a lot of research on that topic last year when I developed Sybex's
CCNA Virtual Test Center.  The following is an excerpt from that product:

Split horizon can be disabled on a Frame Relay interface for some protocols,
such as TCP/IP, but it cannot be disabled for protocols such as IPX (except
when using EIGRP) and AppleTalk.


  -- Leigh Anne

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 Subject: Question about split horizon  IPX [7:19232]


 Hi

 I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't disable
 split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these
 are correct
 and for which routing protocols can I do it.

 Thanks for the help

 Pieter Jordaan




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Re: Time factor taking the CCIE Written [7:19180]

2001-09-10 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I did that for all my RIF questions where you had to do the
canonical-noncanonical thing. This saved a lot of time cause they needed
some figuring. When I went through the whole test I felt very confident that
I had passed even without answering those questions. So instead of hurting
my brain doing the binary and applying the rules to the situation I guessed
the answers. Real nice feature Huh! 84 for the win.
I guess the world will never know if I can do a conversion, but I don't
think the world will ever ask.
Don


- Original Message -
From: Tom Keough 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Time factor taking the CCIE Written [7:19180]


 Thanks for all your comments and email!! I'll let you know tomorrow about
 marking and returning to the answers... This will be my 14th certification
 exam and I have not had one yet that I could go back and change my
answers.
 It will be great if I can on the written.
 Tomorrow,
 Tom


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  Please, anyone who has taken the written. I am scheduled to take it
 tomorrow
  and I feel pretty well prepared. My question is about the time factor.
Did
  you feel a time crunch during the exam or is time not a factor? For me
 time
  was not a factor on the CCNP exams.
  TIA,
  Tom
 
 
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Re: Multicast traffic tunnelling [7:19267]

2001-09-10 Thread kwock99

Thanks. I think I have put the ip pim x command.


- Original Message -
From: Marcos Hernandez 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Multicast traffic tunnelling [7:19267]


 You are missing the ip pim x command withing the Interface Tunnel config.


 kwock99  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi All,
 
  Just checking anyone has the experience on the multicast tunnelling
  configuration.
 
  I have configured three routers to use the Sparse mode for multicast
 traffice
  and they works perfectly.
 
  After I remove the centre router command, ip pim sparse-mode and try
to
 use
  the tunnel to conect the first and third router. I have problem.
 
  I use the following command to config the tunnel within the first and
 third
  router.
 
  interface tunnel0
  ip unnumbered type number
  tunnel source ip-addressa
  tunnel destination ip-address
 
  It seems that the mulitcast traffic does not go to the tunnel
 automatically.
  I
  have tried the ip mroute 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 tunnel0. And it does not help.
 For
  simplicity, I use all the ethernet port for the connection.
 
  Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
 
 
  Francis




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IOS IPSec [7:19280]

2001-09-10 Thread Kyaw Khine

Hi Group,
 
Can I use secondary address on an interface as IPSec tunnel endpoint?
I'm thinking encapsulation will fail.
Can someone confirm/correct my thoughts?
 
Thanks ..
 
Joe.




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RE: Time factor taking the CCIE Written [7:19180]

2001-09-10 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I took the written Friday (passed with 810) and could go back through the
previous questions. One quick note about the RIF's.pay attention to the
ring numbers they give to you and know when they are hex or not. Remember
when you need matching ring numbers, when you don't, and when ring numbers
don't apply. 

-Original Message-
From:   Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, September 10, 2001 10:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: Time factor taking the CCIE Written
[7:19180]

I did that for all my RIF questions where you had to do the
canonical-noncanonical thing. This saved a lot of time cause
they needed
some figuring. When I went through the whole test I felt
very confident that
I had passed even without answering those questions. So
instead of hurting
my brain doing the binary and applying the rules to the
situation I guessed
the answers. Real nice feature Huh! 84 for the win.
I guess the world will never know if I can do a conversion,
but I don't
think the world will ever ask.
Don


- Original Message -
From: Tom Keough 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Time factor taking the CCIE Written [7:19180]


 Thanks for all your comments and email!! I'll let you know
tomorrow about
 marking and returning to the answers... This will be my
14th certification
 exam and I have not had one yet that I could go back and
change my
answers.
 It will be great if I can on the written.
 Tomorrow,
 Tom


 Tom Keough, CCNP MCSE

 Tom Keough  wrote in message
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  Please, anyone who has taken the written. I am scheduled
to take it
 tomorrow
  and I feel pretty well prepared. My question is about
the time factor.
Did
  you feel a time crunch during the exam or is time not a
factor? For me
 time
  was not a factor on the CCNP exams.
  TIA,
  Tom
 
 
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routing / convergence [7:19282]

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Richs

I am running eigrp in my routing and have two separate paths to a 
destination.  One path has a higher metric of course.  Sometimes when the 
lower metric link goes down, sometimes it doesn't converge so that routing 
will go through the higher link automatically.  Sometimes it does converge 
and go through the high metric when the lower metric link goes down.  At 
other times when it does converge when the lower metric fails it will route 
through the high metric however when the lower metric link comes back up it 
doesn't converge so that routing will go back to the lower metric link - it 
remains routing via the higher metric link until I do a clear ip route * 
which of course converges and recalculates the routes.  Is there a command 
or a way to fix this so that it will do it automatically.  Thanks.

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Re: Multicast traffic tunnelling [7:19267]

2001-09-10 Thread Marcos Hernandez

If you have a CCO account, check this out. Just tried and it worked. Dont 
worry about the PIX config (it's just part of the example).

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/tunnel_pix.shtml

Marcos

At 23:26 10/09/2001 +0800, kwock99 wrote:
Thanks. I think I have put the ip pim x command.


- Original Message -
From: Marcos Hernandez 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: Multicast traffic tunnelling [7:19267]


  You are missing the ip pim x command withing the Interface Tunnel config.
 
 
  kwock99  wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Hi All,
  
   Just checking anyone has the experience on the multicast tunnelling
   configuration.
  
   I have configured three routers to use the Sparse mode for multicast
  traffice
   and they works perfectly.
  
   After I remove the centre router command, ip pim sparse-mode and try
to
  use
   the tunnel to conect the first and third router. I have problem.
  
   I use the following command to config the tunnel within the first and
  third
   router.
  
   interface tunnel0
   ip unnumbered type number
   tunnel source ip-addressa
   tunnel destination ip-address
  
   It seems that the mulitcast traffic does not go to the tunnel
  automatically.
   I
   have tried the ip mroute 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 tunnel0. And it does not help.
  For
   simplicity, I use all the ethernet port for the connection.
  
   Any suggestion would be highly appreciated.
  
  
   Francis




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RE: PIX Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]

2001-09-10 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

I believe 1494 is upd and 1604 is tcp.  One port is used for the browser
sservice and is udp.  A search on NAT on the citrix site will provide a doc
and how to set up citrix for nat through a firwall

c 

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Subject: Re: PIX  Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]

I am pretty sure that Citrix uses port 1604 also.


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Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:23:19 -0400

make a static mapping

static (inside,outside)
conduit permit tcp glbol ip add (citrix port ) 1494 i guess and 80 for
web

shd work fine
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From: Matthew Tayler
To:
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: PIX  Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]


  Has anybody any experience on how I can allow remote workers using
  Citrix/nfuse through a PIX to access internal servers please.
 
  I have tried using the notes from citrix but they cannot help
further 
and
  all I get when making the connection is a long delay and timeout.
 
  The idea is our home workers go to the site home page and hit a link

which
  redirects them to the Citrix/nfuse server, where they login.
 
  I am not a Citrix expert and the in house Citrix guys are saying
that 
any
  problems are on the PIX. They are talking about kicking PIX out and
just
  using some freebi firewall from microsoft.
 
  Any help or config extracts would be appreciated
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Re: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]

2001-09-10 Thread Sam Deckert

Thanks for that link Bill - it rocks!

Sam.
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From: Bill Carter 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]


 Rob Thomas has done some good work on this.

  http://www.cymru.com/~robt/Docs/Articles/secure-ios-template.html

 ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^
 Bill Carter
 CCIE 5022
 ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^


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 The firewall IOS is quite good however, if you do not wish to utilize it
you
 can simply create ACLs that reflect your desires accordingly.  ACLs are in
 laymans terms, the low brow fire wall rule set so have at it!

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 Subject: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]


 Hello,

 I'm trying to make a 1720 router as firewall. What IOS
 should I use? What ACLs should I put in the router? My
 understanding on firewall is to allow outgoing traffic
 and block incoming traffic unless it's originated from
 inside, is it correct?

 Thanks in advance.

 Jim

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Re: IOS [7:19270]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

Neither, you need the T train if you wish to run 12.0.

  here is a helpful tool for such questions:



  Dave

Will Francis wrote:
 
 Guys
 
 I'm trying to configure an 2503 to do IP ADDRESS NEGOTIATED, receive dhcp
 ip address and do nat for my test lab at work. Guys I got a couple of IOS
 c2500-is-l.120-9.bin and c2500-d-l.120-9.bin, which one will do the above.
 
 Will
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Re: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

Yes and this is another reason you want to configure frame relay with
p-to-p subinterfaces.

  Dave

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
 
 I did a lot of research on that topic last year when I developed Sybex's
 CCNA Virtual Test Center.  The following is an excerpt from that product:
 
 Split horizon can be disabled on a Frame Relay interface for some
protocols,
 such as TCP/IP, but it cannot be disabled for protocols such as IPX (except
 when using EIGRP) and AppleTalk.
 
   -- Leigh Anne
 
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  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Phantom
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:45 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Question about split horizon  IPX [7:19232]
 
 
  Hi
 
  I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
disable
  split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these
  are correct
  and for which routing protocols can I do it.
 
  Thanks for the help
 
  Pieter Jordaan
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Re: routing / convergence [7:19282]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

like to see your configs and IOS versions, earlier EIGRP releases were
pretty bug riddled


  Dave

Tom Richs wrote:
 
 I am running eigrp in my routing and have two separate paths to a
 destination.  One path has a higher metric of course.  Sometimes when the
 lower metric link goes down, sometimes it doesn't converge so that routing
 will go through the higher link automatically.  Sometimes it does converge
 and go through the high metric when the lower metric link goes down.  At
 other times when it does converge when the lower metric fails it will route
 through the high metric however when the lower metric link comes back up it
 doesn't converge so that routing will go back to the lower metric link - it
 remains routing via the higher metric link until I do a clear ip route *
 which of course converges and recalculates the routes.  Is there a command
 or a way to fix this so that it will do it automatically.  Thanks.
 
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SFM on 6500 [7:19289]

2001-09-10 Thread mak

Hi all,

I would like to know anyone work with SFM on 6500 before. Any thing I
need to pay attention when I play with SFM.

Thanks

mak




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RE: Concert Frame Relay [7:19290]

2001-09-10 Thread Jim Dixon

Here are a couple of links I found on a Google.com search for Concert Frame
Relay
Both have at least somewhat a description of the service.

http://www.sunrise.net/en/pdf_SS_glo_CFrameRelay.pdf

http://www.sunrise.net/en/bus/bus_pro/bus_pro_glo/bus_pro_glo_fra.htm  (this
one has a link to the above PDF file.


Specs only and references RFC#854
http://www.iasnet.ru/00_ENG/03_8.htm




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Re: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]

2001-09-10 Thread Jonathan Hays

Good point. However, you guys have only discussed the two extremes: no
experience and
the 30-years experience burnout. I'd rather hire a lawyer with 5-10 years
experience who
still has enthusiasm. Sometimes the new kid on the block does a great job
and sometimes
she or he often screws up quite a bit before learning the ropes.

But these are generalizations. The particular individual is what counts.

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

 Actually, it's likely the lawyer fresh out of lawschool will do a better
job
 than the cratchety old lawyer that's had a few years to become jaded by the
 system or to get an over-inflated view of themselves.  The new kid on the
 block has something to prove so he'll go that extra mile to do a superb
job.
 Did I mention I used to head up an IT division at a major Canadian law
firm?
 (-:

 My point is... experience doesn't always matter.  Brilliance and the
 willingness to do a good job can compensate quite well for experience.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Chuck Larrieu
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:48 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]
 
 
  hey, Brad, aren't you the guy who was complaining on the other list about
  what the one day lab would end up doing? ;-
 
  may I point out that the CPA or the State Bar, or the real estate
broker's
  exam, for that matter, are very difficult, and only a small percentage of
  takers pass first time through. So who do you want doing your taxes - the
  guy fresh out of accounting school, or the guy with a few years
  experience?
  How about if you find yourself in court for one reason or
  another? Want that
  lawyer fresh out of law school who happened to pass the bar first try
  through? Hey - he's smart enough! Isn't he?
 
  and for those wondering, I deliberately avoided using real estate broker
  examples because the house its up for sale, and I don't care about
  credentials, just as long as I get my price. Any CCIE's out there want to
  come live in California?
 
  Chuck
 
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  Brad Ellis
  Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:10 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: One Journalist's Opinion of CCIE [7:18843]
 
 
  Chuck,
 
  Hi!  Don't get me wrong, Im not saying CCIE's sh*t don't stink!!!
   I know a
  few CCIEs that I would let touch my network.  However, I consider that
the
  EXCEPTION and not the RULE.  As a general rule of thumb, I
  consider the CCIE
  level of knowledge and applicable skills to be higher than minimal
  competence.  I suppose it really depends on your definition of minimal
  competence.  I define minimal competence as someone who has a
fundamental
  understanding of networking with a small amount of hands-on experience. 
I
  would generally classify a CCIE to have a more in-depth understanding of
  networking fundamentals and quite a bit more hands-on experience than
  someone with minimal competence.
 
  Mr. Seltzer's writing says that the average CCIE is minimally competent
in
  the product (I'd guess he was referring to Cisco).  I think that's like
  saying NBA basketball players are minimally competent basketball players.
  To Michael Jordan that's probably true, but Im sure the general
  public would
  disagree.  I suppose it really comes down to your definition of minimal
  competence.  I have a great deal of respect for the majority of other
  CCIE's who I have come in contact with and consider calling them
minimally
  competent to be an insult.
 
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796
 
  Chuck Larrieu  wrote in message
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   like everything else in this business, the answer is it depends.
  
   sorry folks, but CCIE's are not gods who walk among us.
  
   I personally know several CCIE's who are top notch and
  deserving of every
   dollar they get and every contract they land.
  
   I also personally know a couple who couldn't tell you how a packet gets
  from
   one interface to another in a router.
  
   all the CCIE certification proves is that you have passed Cisco's lab
  test.
   It does not prove one way or another whether you know jack about
  networking.
   I suggest that there is a percentage of the 2000 or so who have
attained
  the
   cert since last year who did so only because they successfully
memorized
   enough scenario configurations that they were able to luck their way
  through
   when their lab closely resembled one of those scenarios they memorized.
  
   I personally know several folks who passed over the last 18 months
whose
   only hands on experience was in their practice labs. Of these, all were
   pretty sharp dudes, by the way.
  
   From personal experience I can tell you that I saw absolutely nothing
in
  my
   lab that made me wish I'd spent more time reading RFC's, or
  Comer, or any
  of
   the other great books of the 

RE: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]

2001-09-10 Thread Bill Carter

He also has a BGP config that is real good.

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CCIE 5022
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Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]


Thanks for that link Bill - it rocks!

Sam.
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From: Bill Carter
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:23 AM
Subject: RE: how to make a router firewall? [7:18268]


 Rob Thomas has done some good work on this.

  http://www.cymru.com/~robt/Docs/Articles/secure-ios-template.html

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 1:01 PM
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 The firewall IOS is quite good however, if you do not wish to utilize it
you
 can simply create ACLs that reflect your desires accordingly.  ACLs are in
 laymans terms, the low brow fire wall rule set so have at it!

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 Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2001 8:57 PM
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 Hello,

 I'm trying to make a 1720 router as firewall. What IOS
 should I use? What ACLs should I put in the router? My
 understanding on firewall is to allow outgoing traffic
 and block incoming traffic unless it's originated from
 inside, is it correct?

 Thanks in advance.

 Jim

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RE: Concert Frame Relay - ? [7:19276]

2001-09-10 Thread Paul Jin

Concert is just a service provider.  It is a subsidary of ATT and BT.

Basically, the 2 companies decided to move a big portion of their
international operations into 1 joint venture between the two...

So, in essence, ATT frame relay and BT frame relay and Concert FRS are
almost identical... differences are how they configure the settings and such
but that is like that for all service providers..

Paul


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RE: Question about split horizon IPX [7:19232]

2001-09-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Cisco does actually let you turn off split horizon for AppleTalk RTMP. I 
don't think it is officially supported, but it does work. It's also not 
officially supported by the AppleTalk specification (Inside AppleTalk).

So this got me wondering about IPX RIP. Of course, disabling split horizon 
is not officially supported for IPX RIP, per Novell's specification. And 
Cisco does not officially support turning it off either, but would the IOS 
let you do it anyway?

The answer seems to be no on my routers running 11.0, but it would be worth 
a try on a more recent router (if my husband would let me buy new 
routers... ;-)

Albany#config t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
Albany(config)#appletalk routing
Albany(config)#int e0
Albany(config-if)#apple cable 10-10
Albany(config-if)#apple zone noparking
Albany(config-if)#no apple rtmp split-horizon
Albany(config-if)#ipx routing
Albany(config)#int e0
Albany(config-if)#ipx network 10
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon
% Incomplete command.
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon ?
   eigrp  Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP)
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon eigrp
% Incomplete command.
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon eigrp ?
 Autonomous system number
Albany(config-if)#no ipx split-horizon eigrp 10

Of course, as we all know, if you use EIGRP for AppleTalk or IPX, then you 
can disable split horizon.

Priscilla

At 11:39 AM 9/10/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:
I did a lot of research on that topic last year when I developed Sybex's
CCNA Virtual Test Center.  The following is an excerpt from that product:

Split horizon can be disabled on a Frame Relay interface for some protocols,
such as TCP/IP, but it cannot be disabled for protocols such as IPX (except
when using EIGRP) and AppleTalk.


   -- Leigh Anne

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  Phantom
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:45 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Question about split horizon  IPX [7:19232]
 
 
  Hi
 
  I am studying for CCIE Written, one of my books say that you can't
disable
  split horizon for IPX the other says you can. Which one of these
  are correct
  and for which routing protocols can I do it.
 
  Thanks for the help
 
  Pieter Jordaan


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CCIE Written [7:19295]

2001-09-10 Thread Olympia Ric

I am preparing for the CCIE (routing and switching)written exam. I have many
years of networking experience, theoretical and practical and other vendors
equipment, but relatively new to Cisco. I am also CCNP and CCDP certified.
How much of the written exam questions are Cisco equipment specific? Do I
need in-depth knowledge of Cisco IOS commands to pass the written?
Suggestions for studying the written? Materials? Book? Thanks.


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OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Eric Rogers

I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this - 

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5 years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

I guess someone ran across Larry Seltzer's article in Fortune Small
Business...

Doesn't this get us back to the discussion where I stated that experience
isn't necessary the be-all and end-all of answering the question, Who's the
best?  My point (and I'll say it again) is that experience doesn't always
matter.  Brilliance and the  willingness to do a good job can compensate
quite well for experience.

If there's a firm out there that's looking for a specific block of CCIE's
and isn't willing to interview a person because their CCIE number is from
the wrong block, then that's a firm you don't want to work for.  They're not
selecting the best candidate for the job--but rather the person that looks
best to a client.  I can show you one CCIE right now that is in the 2000
range that I don't think has got half the skills of Tony Medeiros - CCIE
#6172.  And that is that organizations loss...  No skin off my nose...  It
just helps me filter out who NOT to work for.


  -- Leigh Anne

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Eric Rogers
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.

 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
 target a number
 range for a CCIE job!!!

 My question aloud is this -

 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.

 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3
 to 5 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.


 Just MY percecption I guess!




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Buri, Heather L.

And I would imagine that this particular job will be posted for a while.
They just cut out a whole bunch of prospective candidates with their one
silly requirement.  

Heather

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Rogers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:02 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert???
 [7:19296]
 
 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.
 
 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
 
 
 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
 number
 range for a CCIE job!!!
 
 My question aloud is this - 
 
 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.
 
 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
 
 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
 
 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc
 
 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.
 
 
 Just MY percecption I guess!




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Errata for BCRAN [7:19299]

2001-09-10 Thread Gareth Hinton

Hi all,

I've been on the Cisco Press site and not seen any errata for the BCRAN
book.
Have I missed it somewhere, or did I just read the wrong book?  I've done
the exam, so it's not crucial, I was just looking for errata for CIT when I
noticed there wasn't any for BCRAN.

It is a possibility that I have the wrong book. Inside of the front cover
seems to detail the old CCNP exams (ACRC etc), and Windows 95 seems to be
the main OS in the book, although the exam didn't seem to come any further
up to date. This is supposed to be the Feb 2001 edition of the CCNP
certification library.
My ISBN for the BCRAN book is 1-57870-171-6

Anybody confirm it for me please?


Thanks,

Gaz




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Re: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19300]

2001-09-10 Thread Darren Crawford

Did you notice that they want 3-6 years experience in High Speed
Networking as well.  A CCIE below 3000 has well over 6 years experience.
They don't even know what they're asking for.

At 03:02 PM 9/10/2001 -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this - 

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5 years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!
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Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread EA Louie

that is not a big deal.  One recruiter asking for a sub-3000 CCIE ensures
them someone with at least 5 years of CCIE experience.  It may not be a
reflection of their overall experience, but apparently that's not what he's
looking for.

If you had taken and passed your lab exam at this time last year, you would
have been in the 6200 range - still not enough to qualify for this job.

The range for the job is stated in the posting - BGP, OSPF, STP, RIPv1/v2.
Note that the current CCIE lab doesn't test Spanning Tree Protocol.

That one job posting is not enough to get excited about, IMHO.  Shoulda,
coulda, woulda got your cert - my first lab attempt was 6 years ago - what
CCIE would that have made me, had I passed it? ... though the CCIE's today
might have a broader range, the elder CCIE's did not have the WEALTH of
study information and guides that we have today, so I'd call that a wash.
The recruiter is trying to narrow the search down to about 2000 candidates,
most of whom are probably either gainfully employed, or retired from active
networking duty.

- Original Message -
From: Eric Rogers 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:02 PM
Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.

 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
number
 range for a CCIE job!!!

 My question aloud is this -

 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.

 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.


 Just MY percecption I guess!
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RE: CCBOOTCAMP lab question [7:19175]

2001-09-10 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Why not just do them anyway? :-)


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Subject: CCBOOTCAMP lab question [7:19175]


Hi Group
 I have subscribe ccbootcamp practice labs for
for my CCIE lab preparation. But their labs still has
VINES, DECNET, APPLETALK, ATM LANE...Which are not
part of CCIE lab any more.

Can somebody suggest me who did or doing these labs
that how should I attemp those particular labs which
has these topics for configuration.

 Thanks.
  Arun


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Re: CCBOOTCAMP lab question [7:19175]

2001-09-10 Thread Brad Ellis

Arun,

Hi!  The older labs still do include some topics not covered on the current
CCIE exam.  Therefore, you could just NOT do the configs for those topics
when you do the earlier practice labs.  It should be pretty easy to skip the
topics not covered by the CCIE exam now.  If you purchase them and need
assistance getting around those topics, I'd be more than happy to help.

The new labs (labs 15+) do take into account the changes that were
implemented in the CCIE tested technologies.  The newer labs also cover
VoIP, ATM, and IPSEC.  Since ccbootcamp.com is constantly adding labs to the
subscription (currently at 20 labs), the new labs will always reflect any
announced changes in the CCIE program (as well as the virtual racks).  In my
personal opinion, they are the best labs on the market (I thought they were
so good, I now own part of the company!!).  Without using them, I dont think
I would have gotten my CCIE #!

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Network Learning Inc
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Arun Upadhyay  wrote in message
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 Hi Group
  I have subscribe ccbootcamp practice labs for
 for my CCIE lab preparation. But their labs still has
 VINES, DECNET, APPLETALK, ATM LANE...Which are not
 part of CCIE lab any more.

 Can somebody suggest me who did or doing these labs
 that how should I attemp those particular labs which
 has these topics for configuration.

  Thanks.
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Re: ISDN Switch/Simulator (UK) [7:19240]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ebay has listings for used models all the time.  I just purchased an Emutel
Solo.  IMO, it is probably the most flexible and configurable for various
lab scenarios.
My .02c,
Rob H.NP, DP, blah,blah,blah
**Of course, you could also go with a Teltone.




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Glenn Johnson

While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential to be
abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some heightened level of
assurance that candidates will have many, many years of experience.  I don't
know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an assumption regarding
the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a given CCIE number.
However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having such a low number that
quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly entrenched in the upper
ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not necessarily, out of touch
with current technology in the field) -- but that assumption could be quite
flawed.

Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX, maybe they
will be unable to convert it properly :-)
(just kidding of course)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Eric Rogers
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this -

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5 years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!




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Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Keough

Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and the
written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got home
with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and tried
to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take 3 to
5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I want
to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone know?

BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed at and
at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
Thanks again,
Tom

Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE
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Re: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19305]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

Eric Rogers wrote:

 My question aloud is this -
 
 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.

  I hope so!! ;)

 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

  O that hurts!!  I joke with a couple guys in my group #1040 and
1076,  about that, when they went the IOS was 9.1 and when I went 11.0
just came out and the docs for 9.1 were about a quarter of the 11.0 and
so the razing continues...

  Keep in mind though there were no CCIE books, practice labs, support
groups, mail lists, CCxx's. etc...

 
 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

  Good luck to you!!! :)

 
 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc
 
 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.

  agree

  Dave
 
 Just MY percecption I guess!
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Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread sam sneed

That job looks like it sucks anyway...


sam sneed

Eric Rogers  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.

 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
number
 range for a CCIE job!!!

 My question aloud is this -

 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.

 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.


 Just MY percecption I guess!




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Wright, Jeremy

My question is, what happens if a CCIE loses his number do to not
recertifying? For example, if CCIE# 4000 doesn't recertify, is that number
eligible for new CCIE's since it is now open. So if I get my CCIE tomorrow
and 4000 didn't recert, is his number available to me?

-Original Message-
From:   Glenn Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, September 10, 2001 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
cert??? [7:19296]

While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the
potential to be
abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
heightened level of
assurance that candidates will have many, many years of
experience.  I don't
know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an
assumption regarding
the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a
given CCIE number.
However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having such a
low number that
quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly entrenched
in the upper
ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not necessarily,
out of touch
with current technology in the field) -- but that assumption
could be quite
flawed.

Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in
HEX, maybe they
will be unable to convert it properly :-)
(just kidding of course)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of
Eric Rogers
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
cert??? [7:19296]


I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something
caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
target a number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this -

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we
going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher
your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE
of 3 to 5 years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past
year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from
block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign
for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!
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Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-10 Thread John Neiberger

Congratulations!!  That's very cool!

As far as the lab, last time I checked CCO stated that any labs
scheduled after Sep. 1 would be the one-day lab.  If that's still the
case, then you're stuck with the new lab.  It may have changed, though. 
Check out CCO to find the details.

Regards,
John

 Tom Keough  9/10/01 1:59:33 PM 
Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and
the
written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got
home
with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and
tried
to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take
3 to
5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I
want
to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone
know?

BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed
at and
at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
Thanks again,
Tom

Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE
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Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-10 Thread Raul F. Fernandez-IGLOU

Tom,

Congrats. You have will have about a 6 month wait in the 2 day format. This
actually will be better when the 1 day format crancks up at the beginning of
October. Again congrats.
- Original Message -
From: Tom Keough 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:59 PM
Subject: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]


 Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and the
 written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got home
 with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and tried
 to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take 3
to
 5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I
want
 to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone know?

 BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed at
and
 at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
 Thanks again,
 Tom

 Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE
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RE: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-10 Thread Jim Brown

One day all the way, unless you are willing to take within the next few
weeks. There are dates open this month.

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]


Congratulations!!  That's very cool!

As far as the lab, last time I checked CCO stated that any labs
scheduled after Sep. 1 would be the one-day lab.  If that's still the
case, then you're stuck with the new lab.  It may have changed, though. 
Check out CCO to find the details.

Regards,
John

 Tom Keough  9/10/01 1:59:33 PM 
Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and
the
written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got
home
with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and
tried
to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take
3 to
5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I
want
to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone
know?

BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed
at and
at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
Thanks again,
Tom

Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE
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Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

Congrats!  Two day lab until 10-1-01 so my guess is you'll be doing
the 1 dayer.

  Good luck

  Dave

Tom Keough wrote:
 
 Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and the
 written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got home
 with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and tried
 to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take 3 to
 5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I want
 to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone know?
 
 BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed at
and
 at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
 Thanks again,
 Tom
 
 Tom Keough, CCNP, MCSE
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Back to Back ISDN [7:19312]

2001-09-10 Thread Rick Harville

This is a fine group and I lurk here often, please help if you can...

Does anyone know if its possible to setup two C2503's back to back over a
single ISDN line, assigning one spid to one router and the other spid to the
second router?

I have 2 Cisco 2503's with st Bri. Im using Motorola NT1 device with a
single U interface and 2 ST ports. I have at my disposal a single ISDN line
from SW Bell. I would like to split the spids at the nt1 device and practice
my DDR with only one spid on each router.

If this is possible, please forward any info you might have on exactly how
to do this? Thanks in advance.




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RE: PIX Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]

2001-09-10 Thread Randall Yoo

Actually, 1494 is TCP and 1604 is UDP.

Here's a section from a working config (the IP's, of course, have been
changed):

static (inside,outside) 206.214.103.61 10.1.1.17 netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
conduit permit tcp host 206.214.103.61 eq 1494 any
conduit permit udp host 206.214.103.61 eq 1604 any
conduit permit tcp host 206.214.103.61 eq www any

The last line is for Nfuse.

HTH,

Randall


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Ciaron Gogarty
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 09:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PIX  Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]


I believe 1494 is upd and 1604 is tcp.  One port is used for the browser
sservice and is udp.  A search on NAT on the citrix site will provide a doc
and how to set up citrix for nat through a firwall

c

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Smith
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/7/01 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: PIX  Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]

I am pretty sure that Citrix uses port 1604 also.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PIX  Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 10:23:19 -0400

make a static mapping

static (inside,outside)
conduit permit tcp glbol ip add (citrix port ) 1494 i guess and 80 for
web

shd work fine
- Original Message -
From: Matthew Tayler
To:
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: PIX  Citrix/nfuse access [7:18938]


  Has anybody any experience on how I can allow remote workers using
  Citrix/nfuse through a PIX to access internal servers please.
 
  I have tried using the notes from citrix but they cannot help
further
and
  all I get when making the connection is a long delay and timeout.
 
  The idea is our home workers go to the site home page and hit a link

which
  redirects them to the Citrix/nfuse server, where they login.
 
  I am not a Citrix expert and the in house Citrix guys are saying
that
any
  problems are on the PIX. They are talking about kicking PIX out and
just
  using some freebi firewall from microsoft.
 
  Any help or config extracts would be appreciated
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RE: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread David Goddard

The other thing worth considering here is that perhaps they want the
bragging rights... face it, some company's (especially network consulting)
hire CCIE's for their knowledge, as well as so they can say We have X
number of CCIE's. Your initials don't just sound good after your name, but
also your employers...

  With that thought, maybe this employer figures that by saying We have 5
CCIE's, all under the number 3000 they'll have some pretty good bragging
rights.

Dave



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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Just think.  Howard B isn't qualified for that job because he didn't certify
as a CCIE years ago.  And as we all know, he doesn't even come CLOSE to
having those kinds of qualifications! 

Simple point is... not everyone that's got years and years of experience
certified with Cisco.  Many people I know don't feel that they have to prove
their knowledge by sitting an exam.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 EA Louie
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


 that is not a big deal.  One recruiter asking for a sub-3000 CCIE ensures
 them someone with at least 5 years of CCIE experience.  It may not be a
 reflection of their overall experience, but apparently that's not
 what he's
 looking for.

 If you had taken and passed your lab exam at this time last year,
 you would
 have been in the 6200 range - still not enough to qualify for this job.

 The range for the job is stated in the posting - BGP, OSPF, STP, RIPv1/v2.
 Note that the current CCIE lab doesn't test Spanning Tree Protocol.

 That one job posting is not enough to get excited about, IMHO.  Shoulda,
 coulda, woulda got your cert - my first lab attempt was 6 years ago - what
 CCIE would that have made me, had I passed it? ... though the CCIE's today
 might have a broader range, the elder CCIE's did not have the WEALTH of
 study information and guides that we have today, so I'd call that a wash.
 The recruiter is trying to narrow the search down to about 2000
 candidates,
 most of whom are probably either gainfully employed, or retired
 from active
 networking duty.

 - Original Message -
 From: Eric Rogers
 To:
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:02 PM
 Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


  I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
  attention.
 
  dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
 
 
  This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
 number
  range for a CCIE job!!!
 
  My question aloud is this -
 
  With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
  that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
  less value to the customer/employer/client.
 
  Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
 that the CCIE
  made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
 years
  ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
 
  DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
  stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
 
  Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
  Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc
 
  I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
  managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for
 the CCIE in
  the long run.
 
 
  Just MY percecption I guess!
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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think they hang the number up in a hall some where.  Kind of like retiring
a basball or football number.;)

Eric Lange
Qwest Communications
CCNA, CCNP

-Original Message-
From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


My question is, what happens if a CCIE loses his number do to not
recertifying? For example, if CCIE# 4000 doesn't recertify, is that number
eligible for new CCIE's since it is now open. So if I get my CCIE tomorrow
and 4000 didn't recert, is his number available to me?

-Original Message-
From:   Glenn Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Monday, September 10, 2001 2:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
cert??? [7:19296]

While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the
potential to be
abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
heightened level of
assurance that candidates will have many, many years of
experience.  I don't
know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an
assumption regarding
the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a
given CCIE number.
However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having such a
low number that
quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly entrenched
in the upper
ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not necessarily,
out of touch
with current technology in the field) -- but that assumption
could be quite
flawed.

Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in
HEX, maybe they
will be unable to convert it properly :-)
(just kidding of course)



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of
Eric Rogers
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
cert??? [7:19296]


I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something
caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
target a number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this -

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we
going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher
your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE
of 3 to 5 years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past
year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from
block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign
for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!
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Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

That very question came up in a discussion recently and though we
didn't find the answer, (nor look very hard), I don't think the numbers
would be recycled.  If I lost mine, a real posibility if I don't get my
a** in  and get done with it, and I had to, God forbid, retake the lab,
I assume I would get my number back.

  There appears to be enough people on this list so I'm sure someone
knows the answer, anyone???

  Dave

Wright, Jeremy wrote:
 
 My question is, what happens if a CCIE loses his number do to not
 recertifying? For example, if CCIE# 4000 doesn't recertify, is that number
 eligible for new CCIE's since it is now open. So if I get my CCIE tomorrow
 and 4000 didn't recert, is his number available to me?
 
 -Original Message-
 From:   Glenn Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent:   Monday, September 10, 2001 2:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:RE: Is this going to be a trend for the
CCIE
 cert??? [7:19296]
 
 While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the
 potential to be
 abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
 heightened level of
 assurance that candidates will have many, many years of
 experience.  I don't
 know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an
 assumption regarding
 the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a
 given CCIE number.
 However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having such a
 low number that
 quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly entrenched
 in the upper
 ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not
necessarily,
 out of touch
 with current technology in the field) -- but that
assumption
 could be quite
 flawed.
 
 Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in
 HEX, maybe they
 will be unable to convert it properly :-)
 (just kidding of course)
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of
 Eric Rogers
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
 cert??? [7:19296]
 
 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something
 caught my
 attention.
 
 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
 
 This is the first time that I've personally seen a
recruiter
 target a number
 range for a CCIE job!!!
 
 My question aloud is this -
 
 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we
 going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher
 your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.
 
 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even
comprehend
 that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the
CCIE
 of 3 to 5 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
 
 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past
 year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
 
 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from
 block #abc
 
 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign
 for the CCIE in
 the long run.
 
 Just MY percecption I guess!
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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Argh.  I forgot anything prefixed with a less than symbol gets turfed.
After my comment about Howard not coming close to having those kids of
qualifications, I put in a **insert teasing look here** comment.  It was
meant in jest.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Leigh Anne Chisholm
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:45 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


 Just think.  Howard B isn't qualified for that job because he
 didn't certify
 as a CCIE years ago.  And as we all know, he doesn't even come CLOSE to
 having those kinds of qualifications!

 Simple point is... not everyone that's got years and years of experience
 certified with Cisco.  Many people I know don't feel that they
 have to prove
 their knowledge by sitting an exam.

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  EA Louie
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:37 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]
 
 
  that is not a big deal.  One recruiter asking for a sub-3000
 CCIE ensures
  them someone with at least 5 years of CCIE experience.  It may not be a
  reflection of their overall experience, but apparently that's not
  what he's
  looking for.
 
  If you had taken and passed your lab exam at this time last year,
  you would
  have been in the 6200 range - still not enough to qualify for this job.
 
  The range for the job is stated in the posting - BGP, OSPF,
 STP, RIPv1/v2.
  Note that the current CCIE lab doesn't test Spanning Tree Protocol.
 
  That one job posting is not enough to get excited about, IMHO.  Shoulda,
  coulda, woulda got your cert - my first lab attempt was 6 years
 ago - what
  CCIE would that have made me, had I passed it? ... though the
 CCIE's today
  might have a broader range, the elder CCIE's did not have the WEALTH of
  study information and guides that we have today, so I'd call
 that a wash.
  The recruiter is trying to narrow the search down to about 2000
  candidates,
  most of whom are probably either gainfully employed, or retired
  from active
  networking duty.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Eric Rogers
  To:
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:02 PM
  Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]
 
 
   I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
   attention.
  
   dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
  
  
   This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
  number
   range for a CCIE job!!!
  
   My question aloud is this -
  
   With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we
 going to find
   that there is going to be the perception that the higher your
 number the
   less value to the customer/employer/client.
  
   Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
  that the CCIE
   made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
  years
   ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
  
   DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
   stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
  
   Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
  
   Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc
  
   I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
   managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for
  the CCIE in
   the long run.
  
  
   Just MY percecption I guess!
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Setup a Home-Lab or spend that money on Rack time [7:19319]

2001-09-10 Thread AjitVaishali

Just a question :-

1. Should one spend money on setting up a home-lab. If so, then what are the
exercises that one uses to practise on ? If you buy one of the subscriptions,
would it not be better then to buy their Rack time as well, since their racks
would be setup in line with their lab-subsription exercise itself ?

Which brings me to my second question of course

2.Should one spend the money on a lab-subscription with adequate Rack time to
try all their examples twice ot thrice over ?

Just a little confused on which way to go with the money ? Any advice
would be really appreciated




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Re: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]

2001-09-10 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

It took six business and eight regular days for mine to show up. Took mine
on Wed showed up the next Thurs. You can call prometric/vue on Wed and see
if they have your score in their database, then it is off to cisco. Still
scheduling two-dayers.




- Original Message -
From: Tom Keough 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:59 PM
Subject: Passed the CCIE Written! 850 [7:19304]


 Thanks to all who responded to my question regarding time pressure and the
 written... I passed with a score of 85%!!! What a relief. When I got home
 with my registration number in hand I went to the Cisco web site and tried
 to register for the lab. Too soon, the error message says it will take 3
to
 5 days for my results to make it to the registration database...;-(  I
want
 to see if I have a choice of a one day or two day lab date, anyone know?

 BTW I could go back to review my answers! I marked six that I guessed at
and
 at the end of the exam I still didn't know them, not much help for me.
 Thanks again,
 Tom

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Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

If that were true someone would go on a shooting rampage. I'll bet that if
you let your cert lapse and then recert at a later time you probably get
your old number back. Just a hunch, someone know better.
Don


- Original Message -
From: Wright, Jeremy 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:20 PM
Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


 My question is, what happens if a CCIE loses his number do to not
 recertifying? For example, if CCIE# 4000 doesn't recertify, is that number
 eligible for new CCIE's since it is now open. So if I get my CCIE tomorrow
 and 4000 didn't recert, is his number available to me?

 -Original Message-
 From: Glenn Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:59 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
 cert??? [7:19296]

 While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the
 potential to be
 abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
 heightened level of
 assurance that candidates will have many, many years of
 experience.  I don't
 know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an
 assumption regarding
 the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a
 given CCIE number.
 However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having such a
 low number that
 quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly entrenched
 in the upper
 ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not necessarily,
 out of touch
 with current technology in the field) -- but that assumption
 could be quite
 flawed.

 Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in
 HEX, maybe they
 will be unable to convert it properly :-)
 (just kidding of course)



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of
 Eric Rogers
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
 cert??? [7:19296]


 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something
 caught my
 attention.

 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
 target a number
 range for a CCIE job!!!

 My question aloud is this -

 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we
 going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher
 your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.

 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
 that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE
 of 3 to 5 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past
 year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from
 block #abc

 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign
 for the CCIE in
 the long run.


 Just MY percecption I guess!
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Re: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert? [7:19323]

2001-09-10 Thread MADMAN

You are right but to be a certified Cisco Gold partner for example
you must ave a certain number of CCIE's per X revenue.

  Dave

David Goddard wrote:
 
 The other thing worth considering here is that perhaps they want the
 bragging rights... face it, some company's (especially network consulting)
 hire CCIE's for their knowledge, as well as so they can say We have X
 number of CCIE's. Your initials don't just sound good after your name, but
 also your employers...
 
   With that thought, maybe this employer figures that by saying We have 5
 CCIE's, all under the number 3000 they'll have some pretty good bragging
 rights.
 
 Dave
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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 03:58 PM 9/10/01, Glenn Johnson wrote:
While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential to be
abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some heightened level of
snip

Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX, maybe they
will be unable to convert it properly :-)

CNX numbers really were in Hex! Mine is 01CCDD. ;-)

Priscilla


(just kidding of course)



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Eric Rogers
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this -

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5 years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!


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Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

If you can develop the database technology to efficiently and elegantly 
clean up all records that refer to CCIE  as so-and-so, you can have the 
 number after so-and-so fails to recertify. That's the rule that I 
heard. Just kidding! ;-)

Priscilla

At 04:53 PM 9/10/01, MADMAN wrote:
That very question came up in a discussion recently and though we
didn't find the answer, (nor look very hard), I don't think the numbers
would be recycled.  If I lost mine, a real posibility if I don't get my
a** in  and get done with it, and I had to, God forbid, retake the lab,
I assume I would get my number back.

   There appears to be enough people on this list so I'm sure someone
knows the answer, anyone???

   Dave

Wright, Jeremy wrote:
 
  My question is, what happens if a CCIE loses his number do to not
  recertifying? For example, if CCIE# 4000 doesn't recertify, is that
number
  eligible for new CCIE's since it is now open. So if I get my CCIE
tomorrow
  and 4000 didn't recert, is his number available to me?
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   Glenn Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent:   Monday, September 10, 2001 2:59 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject:RE: Is this going to be a trend for the
CCIE
  cert??? [7:19296]
 
  While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the
  potential to be
  abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
  heightened level of
  assurance that candidates will have many, many years of
  experience.  I don't
  know enough CCIEs to comment on the validity of such an
  assumption regarding
  the correlation/magnitude of relevant experience with a
  given CCIE number.
  However, my guess is that simply by virtue of having
such a
  low number that
  quite a few of the early CCIEs are now firmly
entrenched
  in the upper
  ranks of management (and thus possibly, but not
necessarily,
  out of touch
  with current technology in the field) -- but that
assumption
  could be quite
  flawed.
 
  Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in
  HEX, maybe they
  will be unable to convert it properly :-)
  (just kidding of course)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of
  Eric Rogers
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE
  cert??? [7:19296]
 
  I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something
  caught my
  attention.
 
  dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
 
  This is the first time that I've personally seen a
recruiter
  target a number
  range for a CCIE job!!!
 
  My question aloud is this -
 
  With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are
we
  going to find
  that there is going to be the perception that the higher
  your number the
  less value to the customer/employer/client.
 
  Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even
comprehend
  that the CCIE
  made today has a much broader range to cover as say the
CCIE
  of 3 to 5 years
  ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
 
  DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the
past
  year before
  stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
 
  Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
  Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from
  block #abc
 
  I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
  managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign
  for the CCIE in
  the long run.
 
  Just MY percecption I guess!
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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CCIE# 2016
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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

When they get close to giving out Certification C0FFEE, let me know.  I'll
be there with bells on!  (-:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:21 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


 At 03:58 PM 9/10/01, Glenn Johnson wrote:
 While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential to be
 abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
 heightened level of
 snip
 
 Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX, maybe they
 will be unable to convert it properly :-)

 CNX numbers really were in Hex! Mine is 01CCDD. ;-)

 Priscilla


 (just kidding of course)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Eric Rogers
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]
 
 
 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.
 
 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
 
 
 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
 target a number
 range for a CCIE job!!!
 
 My question aloud is this -
 
 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.
 
 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
 that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of
 3 to 5 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
 
 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
 
 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc
 
 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.
 
 
 Just MY percecption I guess!
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread John Neiberger

Oh no you don't!  As the resident caffeine addict, I think I should have
first dibs on that one.  ;-)  But since I'm such a nice guy I'd let you
have it in trade for a year's supply of Folger's  coffee (I have no
standards )

John

 Leigh Anne Chisholm  9/10/01 3:29:16 PM 
When they get close to giving out Certification C0FFEE, let me know. 
I'll
be there with bells on!  (-:

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:21 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert???
[7:19296]


 At 03:58 PM 9/10/01, Glenn Johnson wrote:
 While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential
to be
 abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
 heightened level of
 snip
 
 Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX, maybe
they
 will be unable to convert it properly :-)

 CNX numbers really were in Hex! Mine is 01CCDD. ;-)

 Priscilla


 (just kidding of course)
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
 Eric Rogers
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert???
[7:19296]
 
 
 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.
 
 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
 
 
 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
 target a number
 range for a CCIE job!!!
 
 My question aloud is this -
 
 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to
find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number
the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.
 
 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
 that the CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of
 3 to 5 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
 
 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year
before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
 
 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
 
 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block
#abc
 
 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the
CCIE in
 the long run.
 
 
 Just MY percecption I guess!
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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Multihoming BGP with two seperate ISP's via single router that [7:19328]

2001-09-10 Thread Bob

Hello,

I am multihoming BGP with two seperate ISP's via single router that is
connected to a PIX.
When I shutdown the one of my serial ports to one of the ISP's you can
see the BGP table
removing paths. All trace's show that the router starts routing to the
ISP
that is still active, but all the workstations on the inside of the pix
interface can no
longer route. I've read where the PIX Firewall does not support the use
of BGP, and that I
could use RIP between them. Does anyone have an example of this
configuration? My searches
on this subject within Cisco's knowledgebase have not been very
successfull. Or if you can
think of another solution for my setup, please let me know.

Thank you,




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RE: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19321]

2001-09-10 Thread george gittins

also another point to consider is that some current ccie might not , pass
the lab on their first try...and f they dont what will happen to their
numbers?

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Did you notice that they want 3-6 years experience in High Speed
Networking as well.  A CCIE below 3000 has well over 6 years experience.
They don't even know what they're asking for.

At 03:02 PM 9/10/2001 -0400, Eric Rogers wrote:
I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
attention.

dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
number
range for a CCIE job!!!

My question aloud is this -

With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
less value to the customer/employer/client.

Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the CCIE
made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
years
ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
the long run.


Just MY percecption I guess!
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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Just think.  Howard B isn't qualified for that job because he didn't certify
as a CCIE years ago.  And as we all know, he doesn't even come CLOSE to
having those kinds of qualifications!

Actually, you remind me of a dinner when I was teaching for what is 
now Information Innovations, headed by Gary Rubin. We were going 
around the table, comparing our CCSI numbers, and he very proudly 
claimed 93007. I looked at him with great compassion and said 
softly...Gary, I'm 93005.

For that matter, I've never seen Tony Li, Yakov Rekhter, Dino 
Farinacci, Paul Ferguson, Paul Traina, Fred Baker, Dave Katz, Derek 
Yeung, Eric Rosen, etc., while they are/were at Cisco, sign 
themselves as CCIE. Among that list are the principal architects of 
BGP, ISIS, EIGRP, OSPF, QoS, and MPLS (at least the Cisco 
implementations).  The list also includes the former head of the IETF 
and any number of WG chairs, IESG, and IAB members.

As to the job posting -- are we sure it doesn't come from Catbert, 
evil HR Director?


Simple point is... not everyone that's got years and years of experience
certified with Cisco.  Many people I know don't feel that they have to prove
their knowledge by sitting an exam.

  -Original Message-
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  EA Louie
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 1:37 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


  that is not a big deal.  One recruiter asking for a sub-3000 CCIE ensures
  them someone with at least 5 years of CCIE experience.  It may not be a
  reflection of their overall experience, but apparently that's not
  what he's
  looking for.

  If you had taken and passed your lab exam at this time last year,
  you would
  have been in the 6200 range - still not enough to qualify for this job.

  The range for the job is stated in the posting - BGP, OSPF, STP,
RIPv1/v2.
  Note that the current CCIE lab doesn't test Spanning Tree Protocol.

  That one job posting is not enough to get excited about, IMHO.  Shoulda,
  coulda, woulda got your cert - my first lab attempt was 6 years ago -
what
  CCIE would that have made me, had I passed it? ... though the CCIE's
today
  might have a broader range, the elder CCIE's did not have the WEALTH of
  study information and guides that we have today, so I'd call that a wash.
  The recruiter is trying to narrow the search down to about 2000
  candidates,
  most of whom are probably either gainfully employed, or retired
  from active
  networking duty.

  - Original Message -
  From: Eric Rogers
  To:
  Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 12:02 PM
  Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]


   I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
   attention.
  
   dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
  
  
   This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
  number
   range for a CCIE job!!!
  
   My question aloud is this -
  
   With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to
find
   that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number
the
   less value to the customer/employer/client.
  
   Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
  that the CCIE
   made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
  years
   ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
  
   DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
   stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
  
   Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
  
   Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc
  
   I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
   managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for
  the CCIE in
   the long run.
  
  
Just MY percecption I guess!




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Re: IOS [7:19270]

2001-09-10 Thread Will Francis

Dave

Where is the helpful tool

cheers

MADMAN  wrote in message
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 Neither, you need the T train if you wish to run 12.0.

   here is a helpful tool for such questions:



   Dave

 Will Francis wrote:
 
  Guys
 
  I'm trying to configure an 2503 to do IP ADDRESS NEGOTIATED, receive
dhcp
  ip address and do nat for my test lab at work. Guys I got a couple of
IOS
  c2500-is-l.120-9.bin and c2500-d-l.120-9.bin, which one will do the
above.
 
  Will
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Re: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread Tom Lisa

I'm sorry you can't have that number.  It's the number of my Novell 3.12
server and is registered with the U.S. Department of Really Neat
Novell Server Addresses. :)

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy
 

Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:

  When they get close to giving out Certification C0FFEE, let me
  know.  I'll
  be there with bells on!  (-:

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of
   Priscilla Oppenheimer
   Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:21 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert???
  [7:19296]
  
  
   At 03:58 PM 9/10/01, Glenn Johnson wrote:
   While I agree that such an arbitrary distinction has the potential
  to be
   abused, this person is likely looking (hoping) for some
   heightened level of
   snip
   
   Worst case scenario -- give the recruiter your number in HEX,
  maybe they
   will be unable to convert it properly :-)
  
   CNX numbers really were in Hex! Mine is 01CCDD. ;-)
  
   Priscilla
  
  
   (just kidding of course)
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of
   Eric Rogers
   Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 3:02 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert???
  [7:19296]
   
   
   I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught
  my
   attention.
   
   dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)
   
   
   This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter
   target a number
   range for a CCIE job!!!
   
   My question aloud is this -
   
   With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going
  to find
   that there is going to be the perception that the higher your
  number the
   less value to the customer/employer/client.
   
   Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend
   that the CCIE
   made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of
   3 to 5 years
   ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)
   
   DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year
  before
   stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.
   
   Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz
   
   Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block
  #abc
   
   I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
   managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the
  CCIE in
   the long run.
   
   
   Just MY percecption I guess!
   
  
   Priscilla Oppenheimer
   http://www.priscilla.com
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BGP Confederations [7:19332]

2001-09-10 Thread Joseph Berkeley

Hi,
I'm studying for the CCIE written Exam and am stuck on BGP confederations.
From the material I've read, I am confused about whether to use separate
autonymous
systems numbers for each confederation or separate confederation numbers or
both.
Can some elaborate?
Thanks!

Joseph Berkeley
Sr. Network Engineer
CCNP
719-535-4736
VNET 622-4736




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new purchase [7:19334]

2001-09-10 Thread Dwayne Saunders

Hi all was just wondering wether or not the Cisco 3102 would be worth having
for a home lab I know that they are eol was just wondering if anyone had a
opinion on this product the will be used for my CCNP.

D'Wayne Saunders
Network Admin




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RE: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert??? [7:19296]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The style reminds me a bit of some job ads I've seen for government jobs
around here in the past.  All guvvie jobs here used to have to be
advertised (in theory at least), so if they already had someone lined up
and didn't want to have too many other candidates the job criteria would
just be very narrow...

Doesn't look much like a guvvie job though.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 11/09/2001 09:00 am -
   

Buri, Heather
L.
  
cc:
Sent by: Subject: RE: Is this
going to be a trend for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]the CCIE cert???
[7:19296]
   

   

11/09/2001 05:23
am
Please respond
to
Buri, Heather
L.
   

   





And I would imagine that this particular job will be posted for a while.
They just cut out a whole bunch of prospective candidates with their one
silly requirement.

Heather

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Rogers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 2:02 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:   OT: Is this going to be a trend for the CCIE cert???
 [7:19296]

 I was just cruising on the dice jobs board when something caught my
 attention.

 dice.com/DandL/k/ktii.213.html (paste into your browser)


 This is the first time that I've personally seen a recruiter target a
 number
 range for a CCIE job!!!

 My question aloud is this -

 With the impending CCIE #10,XXX coming by next year are we going to find
 that there is going to be the perception that the higher your number the
 less value to the customer/employer/client.

 Of course, the headhunter/manager will never even comprehend that the
CCIE
 made today has a much broader range to cover as say the CCIE of 3 to 5
 years
 ago. NO, I NOT BASHING ANYONE JUST STATING A FACT.. :-)

 DAMN! I knew I should not have procrastinated for the past year before
 stepping up to the lab. I can just hear it now.

 Me: Yes, I'm CCIE #xyz

 Headhunter: Thank you, but we're looking for a CCIE from block #abc

 I hope this does not become the quid pro quo among
 managers/headhuters/recruiter or this could be a bad sign for the CCIE in
 the long run.


 Just MY percecption I guess!




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RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1 [7:19335]

2001-09-10 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Ole,
I was going to post this yesterday but got called on to make a house call
to a sick router :-(
Not in direct answer to your question, but I suggest you look into traffic
shaping at the hub.
Using traffic shaping, you can prevent the hub from trying to send data
down a PVC at greater than 256 kbps - without traffic shaping, the router
doesn't know that the other end can only deal with 256 kbps, but the
telco's switch does and will drop any traffic above 256kbps.
A presentation at Networkers 2000 Melbourne had some good guidelines for
frame relay traffic shaping - I don't know a URL (or even if it's online
still), but drop me a note if you're interested.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 10/09/2001 03:07 pm -
   

Ole
Drews
Jensen  To:
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Configuring
Sent by: Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19119]
   
nobody@groups
   
tudy.com
   

   

   
09/09/2001
03:21
am
   
Please
respond
to
Ole
Drews
   
Jensen
   

   





Thanks to all of you who replied to this one.

And yes, the host has 768 kbps bandwidth, and each of the three branch
offices has 256 kbps.

All I needed to know was if I needed any timeslot config on the subs, but I
now know that I don't.

Thanks again, and have a great weekend,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 1:42 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19093]


I had read the message as each of the branch offices having a 256K link. in
any case, Rik, you are probably correct in your interpretation as well.

Only Ole can clarify what he meant. My point ( and yours ) is that there is
no way or need to do further configuration on the host site with regards to
the frame connection. The timeslots are not reserved in terms of which
DLCI uses which timeslots or group of timeslots. all data will go out the
physical interface as fast as the wire permits. the layer three to layer
two
mapping will determine which PVC gets which of those frames.

Chuck

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Rik Guyler
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:14 PM
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Subject: RE: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19091]


However, it appears that Ole wants to (correct me if I'm wrong) limit the
bandwidth per DLCI.  Is this true?  If that's the case, unfortunately there
is no way to do this on the router.

When you order a FR circuit, you are typically ordering a T1 for layer 1 so
you really are just getting 1 pipe capable of flowing 768k.  The DLCIs
converge into this pipe in a logical fashion, not a physical one, hence the
layer 2 stuff (FR encapsulation) needed at this point.

---
Rik Guyler

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[7:19081]


Ole, my man, you are trying to outsmart yourself, and you're a pretty smart
guy ;-

Your T1 module is for the telco interface only. You purchased 768K, it
appears. Your DLCI's / PVC's will share that 768K with no further layer 1
actions on your part

once you have properly configured the layer one stuff - the timeslots and
B8ZS and ESF and yellow alarm and loopback and clock source, you are done
with the service module.

All that remains is assigning the DLCI's to the appropriate subinterface,
and IP addressing for the PVC's, and you are on your way.

Chuck

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Ole Drews Jensen
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 3:11 PM
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Subject: FR question - Configuring Fractional T1 on the WIC-1DSU-T1
[7:19057]


I am now on unknown territory, where no man in my shoes has walked before.

I have a Frame Relay 

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