RE: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
OK, I'll make the question simpler. Can you use a loopback interface in the same respect that you would use an ethernet interface? Create the loopback: Interface Loopback0 Assign it an IP with a /24 mask : ip address 192.168.10.1 Configure the subnet assigned to the loopback interface to a routing process, such as EIGRP or RIP. Assign many other hosts on a LAN or a WAN an IP address that is in the same subnet as the loopback interface. Replicate the above configuration on Router at other end of FR network. add subnet assigned to far-end routers' loopback interface to local EIGRP AS, or RIP; do the same on the far-end routers' config for the same EIGRP AS or RIP configuration. And then, configure FR Subinterface with IP Unnumbered Loopback0, and route traffic across the FR network, with the traffic orininating from either the Router, or another host (if configuration above is legal) on the subnet that is assigned to the Loopback interface. What I want to do, is configure a VoIP enabled router with a loopback interface assigned to 192.168.10.1, and several LAN hosts with the same subnet assignment, i.e., 192.168.10.2, .3, .4, etc., and a /24 subnet mask for all hosts including loopback interface. I then want to create and assign IP Unnumbered loopbackX to a FR P-to-P subinterface. Create EIGRP AS to route Subnets assigned to loopback interfaces on each respective router. Mirror image this configuration on the other end of the "wire" (FR Network). Configure Dial-Peers with VOIP destinations pointing to the loopback interface of the peer router (other end of the FR Network). Is this Possible?? The reason why I want to use Loopback interfaces, is because I plan to assign a separate subnet to the FastEthernet Interface, and don't believe that the use of the Secondary command will work, i.e., you can't specify IP Unnumbered FastEthernet0 and have the Secondary IP address used ip unnumbered fastethernet0 will use the FastEthernets' Primary address, which is not desired. The Primary Subnet assigned to the FastEthernet Interface will be NAT Translating with a PIX FW (PIX will be doing the NAT) to hit the Internet. For Topology description: Router HQ connects to internet on one subinterface, while connecting to 3 remote offices on a private FR network on a second subinterface. Router Remote1 Will be connecting to the internet on one subinterface, while connecting back to HQ on separate FR subinterface for VoIP over FR traffic only (no Data traffic) Router Remote2 will be doing the same as Remote1 Router Remote3 will also be doing the same as Remote1 ... So much for a simpler reply. :) Thanks in advance for everyones' comments. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tshon Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933] What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do. Ping the remote routers, they have a serial interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a loopback, what routing protocol are you running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking about, we need your help to help you. Brian Lodwick wrote: >This has got to be the most confusing message I have ever read. >A loopback interface is just a virtual interface. It's not a real interface >it's just a virtual interface you can create within the router, and you can >create as many as you want. >The biggest reason someone would want to use a loopback interface would be >for resiliency. If you build a certain session to the loopback interface >(BGP, DLSW...) and you have more than one path to reach this router the >session will not die if a certain interface dies. > ___ ( ) >--- r1 >>Brian > > >""Mark Odette II"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >>Just when I thought I understood Loopback interfaces, I decided while >>redesigning a network, that I would use them but now I'm questioning >> >my > >>comprehension. >> >>Somebody clear the confusion for me- Please. >> >> >>This is what I'm wanting to do, but not sure if this is proper >> >utilization, > >>much less whether or not it will work: >> >> >> >>RouterHQ connecting to 3 Remote Routers (branch offices) via FR Pvt >> >Network > >>RouterHQ has 2 Ethernet Interfaces, but the Remotes Do NOTThey only >> >have > >>one. >>(I think without pause: "No Problem, I can just create a Loopback >> >interface > >>to take care of the other subnet.") >> >>The FR Pvt Network is only for Voice Traffic, while all data traffice will >>be going out another interface that is using IP UnNumbered Interface >>FastEthernet0. >> >>Here is where my quandry lays. I can't create a Secondary address, as I >>believe the IP UnNumbered command will use the primary address on the >>Ethernet Interface. >> >>So, can I create a Loopback interface, and treate it like a E
Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
should anyone be surprised that Cisco too is becoming victim to the certification craze? 1) cert tests for everything under the sun 2) reduction of the CCIE Lab from two days to one 3) obsolete and EOL'd equipment in the Lab 4) lower level tests that have too many filler questions centered around marketing materials 5) poorly worded questions? sometimes I wonder if this is just the excuse of those who don't really know the materials, but since I know your work, Robert, in your case I will accept your judgement on this It would be impossible for Cisco to test for everything out there - old and new. The question becomes this: is any certification forward looking or backwards looking? Face it, the whole reason for certification is for companies to go to the marketplace and show potential buyers that if they buy a particular company's products, there are plenty of people around who can work on it. This goes for any technology - from Microsoft to Linux to Cisco to anyone. Certification is nothing more than a marketing tool, and one more means to help companies sell. If certification is too easy, then sure, there is some marketplace backlash, but if certification is too hard, requires too much expertise, too much experience, then that has negative effects as well. One would hope that being a beta test, Cisco would throw out a lot of the bad questions just because their analysis shows them as bad questions. But you never can tell. I sometimes suspect that Cisco deliberately keeps a certain percentage of bad questions in their exams just so that you have to be smarter than the average bear to pass, because you have to do so much better with the remainder. Does that make sense? ""Robert Padjen"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Greetings all - > > I have a discussion point that I am curious to get > feedback on from the group. I recently took another > Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the > questions. > > For example, at least four questions regarded products > that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some > time ago. Other questions included choices that don't > exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router > for serial connections (it was a switch that does not > have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no > reasonable way to answer them without having > previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. > > My observation is that this is bad for us as > certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests > and represent to our employers that they represent a > certain level of professionalism, I think I have a > real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding > poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am > concerned about this for non-native English speakers > taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that > the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is > not the first test (production or beta) that I have > noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, > VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to > be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. > > Please share your thoughts. > > BTW - If this is considered an OT item please > disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding > and then address the issue with Cisco if there is > agreement that there is an issue. As the content of > the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the > potential benefits are valued. > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38081&t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SOHO vpn making satellite connection VERY VERY [7:38080]
after some recent bad experiences with VPN across DSL, I began to wonder about MTU sizes and their effect, particularly when coupled with off the wall links or protocols. OTOH, it could be that your VPN boxes don't like the latency across the sat links. maybe you have your ak timeouts set too low, and the boxes are spending all their time renegotiating links rather than sending data? BTW, how are you measuring speeds? Ping tests? File transfers? ""Jerry Deer"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > To make our vpn connection work the satellite/isp provider had to open > certain ports to make our vpn connections work in the first place . does > anyone have any ideas as to what they may have blocked or not configured > correctly to make the connection so unbearable slow? I know our watchgaurd > sohos will bring connection speed down some but we have 128k vpns that are > running a lot faster then this satellite connection and as i mentioned > before the satellite connection shows connections speeds of avg 700k before > adding the vpn units. > Thanks for ANY help, > Jerry > > > > > > Hello All , I am having problems running over a " fast " satellite > > connection. I do a speed test from the pc hooked to the satellite > equipment > > and the actual satellite connection is getting average 700k BUT as soon as > a > > slap on the ol watchgaurd vpn solution it and hook a computer to that the > > speed drops to below a 56k I know this is not a cisco problem but > watchgaurd > > support is very lacking in my humble opinion and was hoping someone may > have > > had simular experience and could point me in right direction. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38080&t=38080 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: routing [7:38071]
Have you tried to redistribute the static route. If not how are your other routers suppose to find out about that network. Check their route tables. kaushalender wrote: >Hi group , > >I have cisco 2610 router on which I am using static routing .I have new >customer which is directly connected on my 2610 router.I have problem >that from router i am able to ping the lan ip of the customers end >router but from outside i am not able to ping the customer ip means that >from my machine i am not able to trace the lan ip of the >customer.Althoug I have put route in the router.Can somebody help me in >resolving thip prob. > >The serial of customer at our end > >interface Serial0/3 > description "BACK OFFICE 64-SHARED CIRCUIT" > bandwidth 64 > ip address 216.252.243.9 255.255.255.252 > ip access-group 107 in > ip access-group 107 out > rate-limit input 64000 64000 64000 conform-action transmit >exceed-action drop > rate-limit output 64000 64000 64000 conform-action transmit >exceed-action drop > encapsulation ppp > >The route i have put in router >ip route 216.252.243.32 255.255.255.248 216.252.243.10 > >the output of sh ip route > > > > 64.0.0.0/8 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks >C 64.110.105.76/30 is directly connected, Serial0/0 >C 64.110.93.192/28 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 > 216.252.243.0/24 is variably subnetted, 10 subnets, 4 masks >S 216.252.243.192/28 [1/0] via 216.252.243.6 >S 216.252.243.176/28 [1/0] via 216.252.243.2 >C 216.252.243.160/28 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 >C 216.252.243.6/32 is directly connected, Serial0/1 >C 216.252.243.4/30 is directly connected, Serial0/1 >C 216.252.243.2/32 is directly connected, Serial0/2 >C 216.252.243.0/30 is directly connected, Serial0/2 >C 216.252.243.10/32 is directly connected, Serial0/3 >C 216.252.243.8/30 is directly connected, Serial0/3 >S 216.252.243.32/29 [1/0] via 216.252.243.10 > 10.0.0.0/22 is subnetted, 1 subnets >C 10.101.0.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 >S* 0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Serial0/0 > >Plz help me Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38079&t=38071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oops....Re: Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
) And, I know that Appletalk is still in some of the CCNP v2 exams. However, it looks like you'll soon be able to scratch NLSP off the CCIE test. Keep your fingers crossed. John On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Tshon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one prepare > you for anything that > is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't > gaurantee that you > won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are > prepared to represent > their company. Secondly if you don't have any understanding about the > equipment > and you run into it, what's your suggestion just replace it, it > might work perfectly well, but we'll > replace it because you aren't familiar The test and the labs as > John knows are not > if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are over lots of > technology that has been around. > the same old situations exist with new ones. And you need to be > prepared for it all, in the > end you need to be prepared to use your resources and understand > quickly. A company > might be losing or wasting money because of you. So, why whine the test > > shows you > what you didn't know that is what a test does. Go back and bone up, > then you'll > pass. > > Tshon > > John Neiberger wrote: > > >If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been > >EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just > >don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test. > > > >Here's a suggestion for Cisco: > > > >Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. Compile a list > >of the top 30 posters, with special considerations for the > >people who tend to answer most often. From that list, randomly > >pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions each. > > > >I promise you that the end result would be 300 questions that > >are higher quality than a majority of the questions Cisco has > >on their current exams. Repeat this process for each new exam > >needed. > > > >Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! > > > >Regards, > >John > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen > >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >>Greetings all - > >> > >>I have a discussion point that I am curious to get > >>feedback on from the group. I recently took another > >>Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the > >>questions. > >> > >>For example, at least four questions regarded products > >>that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some > >>time ago. Other questions included choices that don't > >> > > > >>exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router > >>for serial connections (it was a switch that does not > >>have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no > >>reasonable way to answer them without having > >>previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. > >> > >>My observation is that this is bad for us as > >>certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests > >>and represent to our employers that they represent a > >>certain level of professionalism, I think I have a > >>real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding > >>poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am > >>concerned about this for non-native English speakers > >>taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that > >>the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is > >>not the first test (production or beta) that I have > >>noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, > >>VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to > >>be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. > >> > >>Please share your thoughts. > >> > >>BTW - If this is considered an OT item please > >>disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding > >>and then address the issue with Cisco if there is > >>agreement that there is an issue. As the content of > >>the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the > >>potential benefits are valued. > >> > >>= > >>Robert Padjen > >> > >>__ > >>Do You Yahoo!? > >>Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > >>http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one > prepare you > for anything that > is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't > gaurantee > that you > won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are > prepared > to represent > their company. Secondly if you don't have any understanding about > the equipment > > and you run into it, what's your suggestion just replace it, it > might > work perfectly well, but we'll > replace it because you aren't familiar The test and the labs > as John > knows are not > if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are over lots of > technology > that has been around. > the same old situations exist with new ones. And you need to be > prepared > for it
NEW CCNA EXAM -- Fwd: Real World Simulations Added [7:37964]
Hi all. I thought the list would appreciate this. If you reply, CC me. I've had to unsubscribe because of traffic. -Ejay Original Message Follows From: Cisco Systems Inc To: Ejay Hire Subject: Real World Simulations Added to Cisco Certification Exams Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:41:56 -0700 Dear Ejay Hire, Manage Real-World Network Challenges-By Validating your Networking Expertise with Real World Simulations Cisco certified professionals are considered the "best of the best" in the networking industry. Today, March 12, 2002, beginning with the CCNA exam, Cisco will include simulation questions in Cisco exams and courses. The enhancements to the Cisco Career Certifications program will ensure certified professionals continue to provide our customers and partners with the highest level of support and expertise needed for managing and deploying Cisco end-to-end network solutions. The CCNA #640-607 exam will focus on testing a candidate's knowledge and skills, The CCNA exam #640-607 replaces exam #640-507 in all countries except Japan. All translated version of exam #640-507 will be retired on March 12, except for Networking Academy students. The CCNA #640-607 exam will utilize Flash simulations along with "drag and drops" to validate an individual's understanding and application of the CCNA networking support objectives. With the adoption of simulations in certification courses and exams, Cisco complements a growing trend among information technology (IT) companies to increasingly focus on knowledge and skills in certifications. Real-world, scenario-based simulation courses and exams place an emphasis on hands-on learning, and therefore, the recognition and value of simulation-based exams are increasingly apparent in the IT industry. Simulation questions require candidates to apply troubleshooting and problem-solving skills to resolve networking problems on their written exams just as they would need to do while on the job. Visit http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/ecampaign/misc for more information and to demo a course simulation. The CCNA #640-607 exam is supported by the current recommended courses, ICND v1.1 and CCNA Basics v1.0. These courses are available through Cisco Learning Partners and the Networking Academy, and include integrated course simulations to assist in preparation for the new simulation exam items. Visit http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/learning_part/about_learn_part.html to find an authorized Cisco Learning Partner near you. Although the CCNA exam has been redesigned, the learning objectives have not changed. As a result, the existing CCNA exam outline and course outline cover all the topics on the new exam with the inclusion of simulations to further validate a candidate's network skills. Simulations will be added to other Cisco certifications exams and recommended courses over time. Develop real-world network skills for those real-world network challenges. You have been sent this message because you indicated that you wish to receive updates on Cisco products and special offerings. If you would prefer not to receive news about special promotions from Cisco in the future, please reply to this message with the words "remove me" in the subject line. Copyright (c) 2002 Cisco Systems, Inc. You are subscribed as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37964&t=37964 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
By that reasoning Cisco should put Appletalk, IPX, X.25, ATM LANE, and even Decnet back into their exams. On a certification exam, I don't think it's helpful to have a number of questions on equipment that Cisco doesn't even sell anymore. I'm not saying there shouldn't be any, but if they're going to go through the trouble of creating a new exam, it might be helpful not to focus too much on older products and technologies. Maybe they should come up with a CCNA-Legacy certification that would include questions specific to the AGS routers and IOS 10.0. :-) Besides, my point wasn't based on just this issue. I base my opinion on having taken eight Cisco exams and seeing firsthand the quality of their questions. It's readily apparent that many of them contain a large number of poorly written questions and/or poorly written answers. But, that's just my opinion, and that's barely worth the paper it's printed on. :-) Regards, John On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Tshon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one prepare > you for anything that > is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't > gaurantee that you > won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are > prepared to represent > their company. Secondly if you don't have any understanding about the > equipment > and you run into it, what's your suggestion just replace it, it > might work perfectly well, but we'll > replace it because you aren't familiar The test and the labs as > John knows are not > if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are over lots of > technology that has been around. > the same old situations exist with new ones. And you need to be > prepared for it all, in the > end you need to be prepared to use your resources and understand > quickly. A company > might be losing or wasting money because of you. So, why whine the test > > shows you > what you didn't know that is what a test does. Go back and bone up, > then you'll > pass. > > Tshon > > John Neiberger wrote: > > >If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been > >EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just > >don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test. > > > >Here's a suggestion for Cisco: > > > >Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. Compile a list > >of the top 30 posters, with special considerations for the > >people who tend to answer most often. From that list, randomly > >pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions each. > > > >I promise you that the end result would be 300 questions that > >are higher quality than a majority of the questions Cisco has > >on their current exams. Repeat this process for each new exam > >needed. > > > >Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! > > > >Regards, > >John > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen > >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >>Greetings all - > >> > >>I have a discussion point that I am curious to get > >>feedback on from the group. I recently took another > >>Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the > >>questions. > >> > >>For example, at least four questions regarded products > >>that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some > >>time ago. Other questions included choices that don't > >> > > > >>exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router > >>for serial connections (it was a switch that does not > >>have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no > >>reasonable way to answer them without having > >>previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. > >> > >>My observation is that this is bad for us as > >>certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests > >>and represent to our employers that they represent a > >>certain level of professionalism, I think I have a > >>real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding > >>poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am > >>concerned about this for non-native English speakers > >>taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that > >>the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is > >>not the first test (production or beta) that I have > >>noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, > >>VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to > >>be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. > >> > >>Please share your thoughts. > >> > >>BTW - If this is considered an OT item please > >>disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding > >>and then address the issue with Cisco if there is > >>agreement that there is an issue. As the content of > >>the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the > >>potential benefits are valued. > >> > >>= > >>Robert Padjen > >> > >>__ > >>Do You Yahoo!? > >>Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > >>http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > >
Passed Final Exam for CCNP ( Support ) [7:38018]
Hello, I figured I'd let everyone know I've passed my final exam for my CCNP. Below are answers to FAQ. Please note they are my personal opinions, not general consensus. 1. What order did you take the tests? CCNA (07/00) Switching (11/00) Routing (04/01) Remote Access (10/01) Support (03/02) 2. Why so long between the tests, did you fail any? I've never failed an exam in my life. I've taken 13 so far. I study for each one and make sure I'm prepared. Unfortunately due to work, other obligations and procrastination I didn't pass them sooner. It does make things more difficult in some ways, but since I work with Cisco equipment daily, it helps me keep fresh. 3. Which exams were the hardest? They are listed easiest to hardest. CCNA Switching Remote Access Support Routing Support was more difficult than it had to be, since I waited so long between tests and it has content based on knowing those other areas. 4. What books and study methods did you use? CCNA - Sybex Switching - CiscoPress Routing - CiscoPress Remote Access - CiscoPress and ExamCram Support - Sybex Everything was self-study and on the job experience. I also use brainbuzz.com for a final review before taking the test to make sure I didn't miss anything, overall I wasn't too impressed with their content though. Reading about how other people passed did help to give me confidence. Each person will find a different study method that works for them. I've never taken a training class for any of my certifications. 5. How many years of experience do you have? 8 Years of IT experience as follows: 3 Years, Routing and Switching firewalls etc 3 Years, Servers RAS etc 2 Years, Desktop Support, Computer builds, Retail computer sales 6. What's next? Tough decision, I need to upgrade my MCSE (UGGG) since I still have to use those skills. However I think the CCIE is of much more benefit to me. I have to make sure I'm committed and really study for the CCIE. My work is going to have training for the W2K stuff for our entire group so I've got to learn it one way or the other. I'm going to try and get some training such as a CCIE bootcamp. If anyone knows of a good bootcamp let me know. I'm leaning toward pursuing my CCIE, but it'll be a tough road. I don't believe in quitting, so if I start down that road I know I won't quit, but the high probability of Lab failure frightens me. I hate to fail anything. 7. Did you get a raise etc? Nope, as a matter of fact no one in our department is getting a raise at all this year. I guess some of us are just happy to have a job. We were told we should get year-end bonuses this year, something we didn't get last year. 8. Who paid for the training etc? The last few tests my employer has paid for, but the books I've paid for simply so that they belong to me and I can keep them for reference. I hope that helps anyone out there studying. Keep at it. The tests themselves weren't as hard as I would have hoped. Passing on them is about 700 on a scale of 300 to 1000. That's pretty low, but at the same time the quality of the questions was inferior to other exams. If you have a good reading comprehension level you can probably gain 100 points off just that. Maybe that's a skill they are looking for in certified people though. Robert Fowler - And here they are. A+ MCSE CCNP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38018&t=38018 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
I think the humor is that they are posting a position for a Junior role, but requiring Senior skills... Clayton Dukes CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, NCC === Free Cisco Training http://www.gdd.net - Original Message - From: "Jason" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:57 PM Subject: Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] > Not sure what's so funny about it ? > Looks fine to me. > > > ""Ken Diliberto"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. > > > > http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38050&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SOHO vpn making satellite connection VERY VERY slo [7:38059]
To make our vpn connection work the satellite/isp provider had to open certain ports to make our vpn connections work in the first place . does anyone have any ideas as to what they may have blocked or not configured correctly to make the connection so unbearable slow? I know our watchgaurd sohos will bring connection speed down some but we have 128k vpns that are running a lot faster then this satellite connection and as i mentioned before the satellite connection shows connections speeds of avg 700k before adding the vpn units. Thanks for ANY help, Jerry > Hello All , I am having problems running over a " fast " satellite > connection. I do a speed test from the pc hooked to the satellite equipment > and the actual satellite connection is getting average 700k BUT as soon as a > slap on the ol watchgaurd vpn solution it and hook a computer to that the > speed drops to below a 56k I know this is not a cisco problem but watchgaurd > support is very lacking in my humble opinion and was hoping someone may have > had simular experience and could point me in right direction. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38059&t=38059 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE lab time in Los Angeles [7:38052]
$220 for an 8 hour timeslot. That about $200 more than i'd pay. Anyone looking for time can look on ebay and all the other recommended labtime providers. Granted, your accessing it remotely but most of them will charge a $10 setup or something like that and will cable per your specs (or whatever lab you happen to be doing) Put it this way. For $220 I can get myself a 2501 off of ebay. Glad to hear you would "allow people people to come in and meet yourself". Also, I'm sure most people on here would consider this advertising and that you could possibly be banned for that. This is a study group. I apologize if I seemed offensive but I just got off a 2 hour phone call with a cisco tac engineer who was not up to par with some of the others i've dealt with in the past. Tim -Original Message- From: Seto Leo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE lab time in Los Angeles [7:38052] I'm trying to convince my company to set up a lab suitable for studying for the CCIE lab here in Los Angeles, CA. I want to gauge the interest in practice lab time. If I set up a lab with the required equipment, who would be interested in buying time slots of lab time? We would offer it for $220 for 8 hour time slots and allow people to come in and meet myself and other people studying for the lab. We could also talk about our experiences with various lab preparation books or courses. Are there interested parties out there? Send me an email if so, Leo Seto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38067&t=38052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
what with all the lab rat CCIE's running around these days, it shouldn't surprise anyone that some who lack real experience might be considered "junior" Caslow: I have created a course to teach people how to become CCIE's. I will call each of them ( pause ) mini me ""Ken Diliberto"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. > > http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38076&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is trying to one prepare you for anything that is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of life doesn't gaurantee that you won't see it out there. They are trying to make sure that you are prepared to represent their company. Secondly if you don't have any understanding about the equipment and you run into it, what's your suggestion just replace it, it might work perfectly well, but we'll replace it because you aren't familiar The test and the labs as John knows are not if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are over lots of technology that has been around. the same old situations exist with new ones. And you need to be prepared for it all, in the end you need to be prepared to use your resources and understand quickly. A company might be losing or wasting money because of you. So, why whine the test shows you what you didn't know that is what a test does. Go back and bone up, then you'll pass. Tshon John Neiberger wrote: >If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been >EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just >don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test. > >Here's a suggestion for Cisco: > >Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. Compile a list >of the top 30 posters, with special considerations for the >people who tend to answer most often. From that list, randomly >pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions each. > >I promise you that the end result would be 300 questions that >are higher quality than a majority of the questions Cisco has >on their current exams. Repeat this process for each new exam >needed. > >Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! > >Regards, >John > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > >>Greetings all - >> >>I have a discussion point that I am curious to get >>feedback on from the group. I recently took another >>Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the >>questions. >> >>For example, at least four questions regarded products >>that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some >>time ago. Other questions included choices that don't >> > >>exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router >>for serial connections (it was a switch that does not >>have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no >>reasonable way to answer them without having >>previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. >> >>My observation is that this is bad for us as >>certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests >>and represent to our employers that they represent a >>certain level of professionalism, I think I have a >>real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding >>poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am >>concerned about this for non-native English speakers >>taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that >>the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is >>not the first test (production or beta) that I have >>noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, >>VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to >>be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. >> >>Please share your thoughts. >> >>BTW - If this is considered an OT item please >>disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding >>and then address the issue with Cisco if there is >>agreement that there is an issue. As the content of >>the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the >>potential benefits are valued. >> >>= >>Robert Padjen >> >>__ >>Do You Yahoo!? >>Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! >>http://mail.yahoo.com/ >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38075&t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
Do you think I need a couple for my home lab? The largest I've worked
with are oc-3's.
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From: "Mike Bernico"
To: "Mike Mandulak" ;
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:24 AM
Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> Heh, for only about $240,000 list you too can own a 1 port oc-192 POS card
for a 124xx series GSR that will do not only PPP and HDLC over sonet, but
also frame relay encapsulation...
>
> Seriously though, we aren't ready for 10Gig yet, but when the time comes
I'm considering using 10 Gig E between our core routers instead. I'm not
sure how serious I am about that, but the line cards will be less than half
the cost. Anyone other SPs out there considering that?
>
> Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Mandulak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tue 3/12/2002 5:14 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
>
>
>
> Out of curiosity, what hardware/protocol do you use for an OC-192?
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mike Bernico"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:28 PM
> Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
>
>
> > I work for a large ISP. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing
as
> a
> > high speed ATM link. In the cisco carrier class ATM world oc-12 is as
fast
> > as you go. Unless of course you use the mgx 8850, the biggest piece of
> junk
> > ever painted blue and stamped with a bridge. ATM is still a great way
to
> do
> > statistical multiplexing, a great revenue stream for carriers and
popular
> > among the "connect all the sites in my enterprise together with DS3s
> > crowd." ATM circuit emulation is darn handy for legacy video. It's
days
> > are numbered in larger networks. It's all but extinct in the > OC-12
> > networks, but it's going to be around for a while for smaller networks.
> >
> >
> > Mike
> > ---
> > Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net
> > (217) 557-6555
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:00 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> > >
> > >
> > > quite possibly because the big telecom providers
> > > connect most of their pops/CO's with high speed
> > > atm links...
> > >
> > >
> > > Larry Letterman
> > > Cisco Systems
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Patrick Ramsey
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:25 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> > >
> > >
> > > Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
> > >
> > > I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed
> > > as one of it
> > > +'s.
> > >
> > > Does Cisco even support this? This kinda creeps up even
> > > further on the +'s
> > > of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
> > >
> > > Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from
> > > another, can
> > > anyone even think of why atm still exists? With wdm and all the newer
> > > technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so
> > > saught after for
> > > long distance links?
> > >
> > > -Patrick
> > >
> > >
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Re: CCIE lab time in Los Angeles [7:38052]
Does that come with vaseline? ""Seto Leo"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm trying to convince my company to set up a lab suitable for studying for > the CCIE lab here in Los Angeles, CA. > > I want to gauge the interest in practice lab time. If I set up a lab with > the required equipment, who would be interested in buying time slots of lab > time? We would offer it for $220 for 8 hour time slots and allow people to > come in and meet myself and other people studying for the lab. We could > also talk about our experiences with various lab preparation books or courses. > > Are there interested parties out there? > > Send me an email if so, > > Leo Seto > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38073&t=38052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: EIGRP Metric and Route inconcistence [7:38043]
I'm not sure I understand your entire question. But, I hope this helps... you have to many formulas. What the recommendation states is that if you are running other routing protocols like ospf who takes its decisions based on bandwidth statements then you shouldn't change them, because it will also affect ospf. But here think about this you could change the K values for Eigrp, to only look at delay. then adjust the delay for what you wish. Hans PHAM wrote: >Hi, > >By default EIGRP uses 2 metric: Bandwidth and Delay to calculate routes. It >is recomended that we should not change the Actual Bandwith, but we can >change the interface delay for the traffic enginering purposes. > >The metric is : Min Bandwidth + Cumulative Delay. > >This can end up with a problem of "route non-consiste1nce". Here is my >counter example: > >R2 > / \ > /\ >R1 R4-R5 > \/ > \ / >R3 > > >Link >1-2 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms >2-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms >1-3 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 15ms >3-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms > >4-5 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms > >The traffic from R1 to a network directly connected to R4 will be load >balance between routes R1-R2-R4 and R1-R3-R4. because the Metric of the two >routes are the same: > >R1-R2-R4 = Bandwidth (i.e. 10^7 / 1) + Delay (i.e 1000 + 500) = = 1000 >+ 1000 + 500 = 2500 > >R1-R3-R4 = 500 + 1500 + 500 = 2500 > >However, traffic from R1 heading for R5 is not load-balanced because the >Metric R1-R2-R4-R5 is 3500 while the metric R1-R3-R4-R5 = 4000 > >that means all traffic from R1 -> R5 will go via R2 > >That's is a kind of inconcistence, which may lead to bottleneck, and cause >difficulty for traffic engineering. > >Could you please tell me if I am wrong or right ? > >If I am right, how we can overcome this problem. > > >Thanks a lot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38072&t=38043 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
routing [7:38071]
Hi group , I have cisco 2610 router on which I am using static routing .I have new customer which is directly connected on my 2610 router.I have problem that from router i am able to ping the lan ip of the customers end router but from outside i am not able to ping the customer ip means that from my machine i am not able to trace the lan ip of the customer.Althoug I have put route in the router.Can somebody help me in resolving thip prob. The serial of customer at our end interface Serial0/3 description "BACK OFFICE 64-SHARED CIRCUIT" bandwidth 64 ip address 216.252.243.9 255.255.255.252 ip access-group 107 in ip access-group 107 out rate-limit input 64000 64000 64000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop rate-limit output 64000 64000 64000 conform-action transmit exceed-action drop encapsulation ppp The route i have put in router ip route 216.252.243.32 255.255.255.248 216.252.243.10 the output of sh ip route 64.0.0.0/8 is variably subnetted, 2 subnets, 2 masks C 64.110.105.76/30 is directly connected, Serial0/0 C 64.110.93.192/28 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 216.252.243.0/24 is variably subnetted, 10 subnets, 4 masks S 216.252.243.192/28 [1/0] via 216.252.243.6 S 216.252.243.176/28 [1/0] via 216.252.243.2 C 216.252.243.160/28 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 C 216.252.243.6/32 is directly connected, Serial0/1 C 216.252.243.4/30 is directly connected, Serial0/1 C 216.252.243.2/32 is directly connected, Serial0/2 C 216.252.243.0/30 is directly connected, Serial0/2 C 216.252.243.10/32 is directly connected, Serial0/3 C 216.252.243.8/30 is directly connected, Serial0/3 S 216.252.243.32/29 [1/0] via 216.252.243.10 10.0.0.0/22 is subnetted, 1 subnets C 10.101.0.0 is directly connected, Ethernet0/0 S* 0.0.0.0/0 is directly connected, Serial0/0 Plz help me Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38071&t=38071 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE lab time in Los Angeles [7:38052]
That's a really good idea, but the price is too high. I would be interested if you bring down the price. ""Seto Leo"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm trying to convince my company to set up a lab suitable for studying for > the CCIE lab here in Los Angeles, CA. > > I want to gauge the interest in practice lab time. If I set up a lab with > the required equipment, who would be interested in buying time slots of lab > time? We would offer it for $220 for 8 hour time slots and allow people to > come in and meet myself and other people studying for the lab. We could > also talk about our experiences with various lab preparation books or courses. > > Are there interested parties out there? > > Send me an email if so, > > Leo Seto > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38070&t=38052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
What in the world is the question about, what are you trying to do. Ping the remote routers, they have a serial interface that you can ping, or the ethernet. Why do you need a loopback, what routing protocol are you running, where is a config? We can't figure out what you are talking about, we need your help to help you. Brian Lodwick wrote: >This has got to be the most confusing message I have ever read. >A loopback interface is just a virtual interface. It's not a real interface >it's just a virtual interface you can create within the router, and you can >create as many as you want. >The biggest reason someone would want to use a loopback interface would be >for resiliency. If you build a certain session to the loopback interface >(BGP, DLSW...) and you have more than one path to reach this router the >session will not die if a certain interface dies. > ___ ( ) >--- r1 >>Brian > > >""Mark Odette II"" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > >>Just when I thought I understood Loopback interfaces, I decided while >>redesigning a network, that I would use them but now I'm questioning >> >my > >>comprehension. >> >>Somebody clear the confusion for me- Please. >> >> >>This is what I'm wanting to do, but not sure if this is proper >> >utilization, > >>much less whether or not it will work: >> >> >> >>RouterHQ connecting to 3 Remote Routers (branch offices) via FR Pvt >> >Network > >>RouterHQ has 2 Ethernet Interfaces, but the Remotes Do NOTThey only >> >have > >>one. >>(I think without pause: "No Problem, I can just create a Loopback >> >interface > >>to take care of the other subnet.") >> >>The FR Pvt Network is only for Voice Traffic, while all data traffice will >>be going out another interface that is using IP UnNumbered Interface >>FastEthernet0. >> >>Here is where my quandry lays. I can't create a Secondary address, as I >>believe the IP UnNumbered command will use the primary address on the >>Ethernet Interface. >> >>So, can I create a Loopback interface, and treate it like a Ethernet >>interface, as such that I can assign an IP to the Loopback interface, but >> >it > >>have a /24 mask, and other devices on the local network can also be keyed >>for the same subnet as the Loopback, making it where I can give the >> >command > >>IP UnNumbered Lo0 to a Serial SubInterface?? >> >>I thought I could, but then got concerned when I hopped on CCO, and did a >>lookup on Loopback interfaces, and read a blurb about traffic NOT destined >>for the LoopBack Interface itself will be routed to 'ye old trashcan' >> >i.e., > >>Null Interface. >> >>Somebody please tell me that I can send traffic from one end of the >> >circuit > >>to the other and have it destined for a node OTHER than the Loopback >>Interface with that node being on the same subnet as the Loopback >> >interface. > >>Thanks. >> >>Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38069&t=37933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
If Cisco is asking questions about products that have been EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. :-) I just don't understand the difficulty in creating a decent test. Here's a suggestion for Cisco: Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. Compile a list of the top 30 posters, with special considerations for the people who tend to answer most often. From that list, randomly pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions each. I promise you that the end result would be 300 questions that are higher quality than a majority of the questions Cisco has on their current exams. Repeat this process for each new exam needed. Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! Regards, John On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Greetings all - > > I have a discussion point that I am curious to get > feedback on from the group. I recently took another > Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the > questions. > > For example, at least four questions regarded products > that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some > time ago. Other questions included choices that don't > exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router > for serial connections (it was a switch that does not > have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no > reasonable way to answer them without having > previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. > > My observation is that this is bad for us as > certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests > and represent to our employers that they represent a > certain level of professionalism, I think I have a > real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding > poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am > concerned about this for non-native English speakers > taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that > the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is > not the first test (production or beta) that I have > noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, > VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to > be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. > > Please share your thoughts. > > BTW - If this is considered an OT item please > disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding > and then address the issue with Cisco if there is > agreement that there is an issue. As the content of > the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the > potential benefits are valued. > > = > Robert Padjen > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38068&t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
Heh, for only about $240,000 list you too can own a 1 port oc-192 POS card
for a 124xx series GSR that will do not only PPP and HDLC over sonet, but
also frame relay encapsulation...
Seriously though, we aren't ready for 10Gig yet, but when the time comes I'm
considering using 10 Gig E between our core routers instead. I'm not sure
how serious I am about that, but the line cards will be less than half the
cost. Anyone other SPs out there considering that?
Mike
-Original Message-
From: Mike Mandulak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tue 3/12/2002 5:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc:
Subject: Re: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
Out of curiosity, what hardware/protocol do you use for an OC-192?
- Original Message -
From: "Mike Bernico"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:28 PM
Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> I work for a large ISP. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing
as
a
> high speed ATM link. In the cisco carrier class ATM world oc-12 is as
fast
> as you go. Unless of course you use the mgx 8850, the biggest piece of
junk
> ever painted blue and stamped with a bridge. ATM is still a great way to
do
> statistical multiplexing, a great revenue stream for carriers and popular
> among the "connect all the sites in my enterprise together with DS3s
> crowd." ATM circuit emulation is darn handy for legacy video. It's days
> are numbered in larger networks. It's all but extinct in the > OC-12
> networks, but it's going to be around for a while for smaller networks.
>
>
> Mike
> ---
> Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Illinois Century Network http://www.illinois.net
> (217) 557-6555
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> >
> >
> > quite possibly because the big telecom providers
> > connect most of their pops/CO's with high speed
> > atm links...
> >
> >
> > Larry Letterman
> > Cisco Systems
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Patrick Ramsey
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:25 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> >
> >
> > Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
> >
> > I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed
> > as one of it
> > +'s.
> >
> > Does Cisco even support this? This kinda creeps up even
> > further on the +'s
> > of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
> >
> > Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from
> > another, can
> > anyone even think of why atm still exists? With wdm and all the newer
> > technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so
> > saught after for
> > long distance links?
> >
> > -Patrick
> >
> >
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Re: Frame-Relay encapsulation issue [7:38061]
Show us your configs. Also, I remember there was something I heard once That pinging a frame interface is actually sent out the interface before responding. which meant that the traffic goes out on the circuit and is sent back like I said some typ of rumor. I would check the CCO and it should explain it in more detail. Kelly Cobean wrote: >All, > I am stumped by some behavior I am seeing in my lab when testing >frame-relay. I have a 4000 configured as a frame switch; nothing special, >just the standard frame-relay route commands necessary to switch the traffic >between two other routers (we'll call them rtrA & rtrB, for clarity.) On >rtrA, I have configured a physical interface with a map statement. On rtrB, >I have configured a P2P sub-interface with a "frame-relay interface dlci >xxx" statement (you can't use a map statement on a P2P interface, the router >complains). All works fine, and I can ping rtrB and rtrA from rtrA and vice >versa (In other words, I can ping my own interface and the remote interface >on both routers). Here's where it gets weird...If I delete the P2P >interface on rtrB, reload to get rid of the residue, then reconfigure the >router with a multipoint sub-interface and a map statement, I can still ping >rtrA just fine, but I lose the ability to ping rtrB from rtrB itself (i.e. >pinging my own interface) I lose the ability to ping rtrA's interface from >rtrA at this point as well. Debug output shows the typical "encapsulation >failed" error, but I'm at a loss as to why I can ping the remote router, but >not my own interface? Anyone have any thoughts? I'm sure I'm missing >something, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. Thanks in >advance for any input. > >Kelly Cobean, CCNP,CCSA,ACSA,MCSE,MCP+I Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38065&t=38061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Anywhere or one in Sydney that can rent me gear??? [7:38064]
Hi All, I need the following, just to rent ISDN Simulator NM-4T or 4port serial module for a 2600/3600 Router I would be needing the gear for 2-3 weeks. Will pay a deposit and give you all the details needed. Studing for BCRAN and would like to setup ISDN backup/DDR and a Frame Relay switch.. DESPERATE!! Thanks Kris PS: Even if someone is kind enough for me to come and study in a lab they have, that would also be unreal! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38064&t=38064 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Quality of Cisco exams [7:38063]
Greetings all - I have a discussion point that I am curious to get feedback on from the group. I recently took another Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at the questions. For example, at least four questions regarded products that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them some time ago. Other questions included choices that don't exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series router for serial connections (it was a switch that does not have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no reasonable way to answer them without having previously read or learned specific Cisco materials. My observation is that this is bad for us as certification holders. And, since we pay for the tests and represent to our employers that they represent a certain level of professionalism, I think I have a real issue. The issues are not complaints regarding poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am concerned about this for non-native English speakers taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned that the test is outdated even when its in beta. This is not the first test (production or beta) that I have noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on MPLS, VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem to be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. Please share your thoughts. BTW - If this is considered an OT item please disregard. It is my hope to gain some understanding and then address the issue with Cisco if there is agreement that there is an issue. As the content of the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that the potential benefits are valued. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38063&t=38063 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Frame-Relay encapsulation issue [7:38061]
With this sort of configuration you won't be able to ping your own interface. It may seem counter-intuitive at first but the problem is that the router doing the pinging doesn't have a frame relay map for its own IP address. With the point-to- point interface you had originally this is not an issue. When you ping your own serial interface the packet usually goes to remote router first, gets bounced back to the local router which then replies to the opposite side, which bounces the reply back to the originating router. This process won't work if the originating router doesn't know where to send the first packet. This is normal behavior for this sort of configuration and nothing to be concerned about. HTH, John On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Kelly Cobean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > All, >I am stumped by some behavior I am seeing in my lab when testing > frame-relay. I have a 4000 configured as a frame switch; nothing > special, > just the standard frame-relay route commands necessary to switch the > traffic > between two other routers (we'll call them rtrA & rtrB, for clarity.) On > rtrA, I have configured a physical interface with a map statement. On > rtrB, > I have configured a P2P sub-interface with a "frame-relay interface dlci > xxx" statement (you can't use a map statement on a P2P interface, the > router > complains). All works fine, and I can ping rtrB and rtrA from rtrA and > vice > versa (In other words, I can ping my own interface and the remote > interface > on both routers). Here's where it gets weird...If I delete the P2P > interface on rtrB, reload to get rid of the residue, then reconfigure > the > router with a multipoint sub-interface and a map statement, I can still > ping > rtrA just fine, but I lose the ability to ping rtrB from rtrB itself > (i.e. > pinging my own interface) I lose the ability to ping rtrA's interface > from > rtrA at this point as well. Debug output shows the typical > "encapsulation > failed" error, but I'm at a loss as to why I can ping the remote router, > but > not my own interface? Anyone have any thoughts? I'm sure I'm missing > something, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. > Thanks in > advance for any input. > > Kelly Cobean, CCNP,CCSA,ACSA,MCSE,MCP+I [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38062&t=38061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Frame-Relay encapsulation issue [7:38061]
All, I am stumped by some behavior I am seeing in my lab when testing frame-relay. I have a 4000 configured as a frame switch; nothing special, just the standard frame-relay route commands necessary to switch the traffic between two other routers (we'll call them rtrA & rtrB, for clarity.) On rtrA, I have configured a physical interface with a map statement. On rtrB, I have configured a P2P sub-interface with a "frame-relay interface dlci xxx" statement (you can't use a map statement on a P2P interface, the router complains). All works fine, and I can ping rtrB and rtrA from rtrA and vice versa (In other words, I can ping my own interface and the remote interface on both routers). Here's where it gets weird...If I delete the P2P interface on rtrB, reload to get rid of the residue, then reconfigure the router with a multipoint sub-interface and a map statement, I can still ping rtrA just fine, but I lose the ability to ping rtrB from rtrB itself (i.e. pinging my own interface) I lose the ability to ping rtrA's interface from rtrA at this point as well. Debug output shows the typical "encapsulation failed" error, but I'm at a loss as to why I can ping the remote router, but not my own interface? Anyone have any thoughts? I'm sure I'm missing something, but for the life of me, I can't figure out what it is. Thanks in advance for any input. Kelly Cobean, CCNP,CCSA,ACSA,MCSE,MCP+I Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38061&t=38061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Aironet 350 Wireless Security Question [7:38051]
I think I just answered my own question. Just found an excellent link... Here it is if anyone is curious: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/so/cuso/epso/sqfr/safwl_wp.htm Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38060&t=38051 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vietnamese CCNP group [7:38057]
Hi all +ACE- O day co ai dang o Ha NOi - Viet Nam , minh setup CCNP group di . Toi xin tu gioi thieu dang lam cho mot cong ty dinh dang den thiet bi cua Cisco. Va dang hoc thi BCRAN. Chung ta co the trao doi, bat ke trinh do, chi can su nhiet tinh. Hy vong co phan hoi cua cac ban Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38057&t=38057 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
> "you should always remember the full command." - are you simply referring > to exam situations, or do you consider that in "real life" it is necessary > to remember the full commands? (No, I don't consider exams to be real > life ;-) If you're just talking about exams, fair enough, but if you're talking > about real world situations, why do you think this? I think you would be surprised how many people do not know what conf t really means. Forcing people to use the full command makes them learn more about what it does. We all should at least know what the full command does, then and only then should we use the abbreviated versions Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38058&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to go.. [7:38031]
Thankyou for the suggestions, alot of people think I shoudl just be getting my CCNP without a lab, all theory and wait till CCIE time for the lab. I'm sitting my 3/4 exam in 3 weeks for CCNP.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38056&t=38031 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
I like that 323 protocol myself... :) At least they know that the Engineer needs some good TroubleShooting Skills. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steven A. Ridder Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] It's "funny" because they want a JR NETWORK ENGINEER! (with ccie). In theory, a CCIE isn't a jr level. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Jason"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Not sure what's so funny about it ? > Looks fine to me. > > > ""Ken Diliberto"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. > > > > http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38055&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to go.. [7:38031]
While you're buying your lab, would you mind buying me an Adtran Atlass 550 or 800 with ISDN and T1 cards while your at it :) You can get one for yourself too if you wannoo... That'll take care of your Frame/ISDN switch... Seriously, If you have the cash, build the lab... You may not resell it for what you paid for it... but I personally think that the Lab Kit should become a permanent fixture in your home... you'll always find a task that you'll want to try out at home first, and if you do any freelance work on the side, it helps with that too. I'm sure there will be a few things that you'll grow rusty on for lack of just doing them on a regular basis... and the Home Kit helps you to go back and refresh yourself at your leisure. I'm 28, and I sure wished I'd have had a complete personal lab at your age... It's taken me the last 3 years to build up the 4 router and Switch-on-loan lab that I have, and it's still not complete. You'll have plenty of time and money for Fast Cars when you get yourself established in your career of course, that'll also depend on your money-management skills :) Good luck with your Networking Career... and welcome to the List!! Sincerely, Mark Odette II DFW, Texas CCNA, 3/4 CCNP, MCSE 4.0/2000, A+ Certified. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Where to go.. [7:38031] Hi Everyone, This is my first post..I'm currently studying for the CCNP, I have passed Switching and Routing and are presently studying BCRAN which I hope to sit on the 4th of April. I work for a company who outsource all the WAN infrastructure, they are looking at bringing the WAN inside for myself and another member of staff to work on late Novemeber.. As I'm going through my CCNP with my very modest Lab (missing Frame Relay Switch and ISDN kit) I'm passing without a issue, but am really now toying with the idea of spending alot of money on building myself a complete lab (Cat5k, Frame Relay Switch, ISDN, Token).. I can spend $10,000 AU.. Cisco is something that I want to really pursue but I'm unsure if in my current position Ill ever get to really get dirty with this stuff, or if I should build a huge lab for myself at Home and look for a new position later in the year when I have built up my practical skills.. I know the investment would be worthwhile, and I have a passion to acheive my CCNP and CCIE... Should I invest the money in this hardware or do what I was going to do, and buy a really fast car... I need to spend a bit to get my lab off the ground.. Speaking to Albert Lu, he really recommends buying the kit! I'm very confused a college says I dont need any lab for my CCNP and just to wait until I'm ready for my CCIE.. Any advice please! I'm 21 years of age and have my CNE, CNA, CCA, CCNA Thankyou! *confused* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38053&t=38031 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Where to go.. [7:38031]
Financially a car is one of the worst investments that a person can make. Sometimes we do things just because... An investment in Cisco equipment could be an investment in your future. It's a given that almost all CCIE candidates have a lab. IMHO anyone who wants to increase their skill set needs access to a lab. At issue is where that lab is located: at work, a remote for hire lab, or at one's home. Some of us like to touch the equipment. Like the ability to wire up a scenario. If you decide to buy, then be patient. Have a dream lab in your mind. Buy items as you need them or as great bargains appear. Consider whether or not you will sell the equipment after attaining CCIE. Good luck. > -Original Message- > From: Kris Keen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:12 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Where to go.. [7:38031] > > > Hi Everyone, > > This is my first post..I'm currently studying for the CCNP, I > have passed > Switching and Routing and are presently studying BCRAN which > I hope to sit > on the 4th of April. > I work for a company who outsource all the WAN > infrastructure, they are > looking at bringing the WAN inside for myself and another > member of staff to > work on late Novemeber.. > > As I'm going through my CCNP with my very modest Lab (missing > Frame Relay > Switch and ISDN kit) I'm passing without a issue, but am > really now toying > with the idea of spending alot of money on building myself a > complete lab > (Cat5k, Frame Relay Switch, ISDN, Token).. I can spend > $10,000 AU.. Cisco is > something that I want to really pursue but I'm unsure if in my current > position Ill ever get to really get dirty with this stuff, or > if I should > build a huge lab for myself at Home and look for a new > position later in the > year when I have built up my practical skills.. > > I know the investment would be worthwhile, and I have a > passion to acheive > my CCNP and CCIE... > Should I invest the money in this hardware or do what I was > going to do, and > buy a really fast car... > I need to spend a bit to get my lab off the ground.. > > Speaking to Albert Lu, he really recommends buying the kit! > I'm very confused a college says I dont need any lab for my > CCNP and just to > wait until I'm ready for my CCIE.. > > Any advice please! I'm 21 years of age and have my CNE, CNA, CCA, CCNA > > Thankyou! > > *confused* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38054&t=38031 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE lab time in Los Angeles [7:38052]
I'm trying to convince my company to set up a lab suitable for studying for the CCIE lab here in Los Angeles, CA. I want to gauge the interest in practice lab time. If I set up a lab with the required equipment, who would be interested in buying time slots of lab time? We would offer it for $220 for 8 hour time slots and allow people to come in and meet myself and other people studying for the lab. We could also talk about our experiences with various lab preparation books or courses. Are there interested parties out there? Send me an email if so, Leo Seto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38052&t=38052 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aironet 350 Wireless Security Question [7:38051]
How safe am I if I'm using the aironet 350 Series access points running the following: -version 11.10T -EAP authentication with a Radius server -MIC enabled -Broadcast Key Rotation -WEP with key hashing Does anyone know any good links that give a 'very' detailed explanation of how the 'WEP key hashing' works? Also, does Cisco have any VPN-based or one-time password wireless solutions available? I mean, it seems like everyday... I get a different answer as to which wireless security models are secure and which aren't. Thanks, Charlie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38051&t=38051 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
For that much money, I'd take it! Who cares what the title is, the low range would be a significant raise. :-) Then again, look who the employment agency is. In Denver, at least, they're not exactly reputable. In fact, I'd bet money that the job doesn't even exist! John On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Ken Diliberto ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. > > http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38049&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
OK, you've got me baffled. Comments inline. JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/03/2002 01:37 pm - "Mark Odette II" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/03/2002 04:10 pm Please respond to "Mark Odette II" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933] Just when I thought I understood Loopback interfaces, I decided while redesigning a network, that I would use them but now I'm questioning my comprehension. Somebody clear the confusion for me- Please. This is what I'm wanting to do, but not sure if this is proper utilization, much less whether or not it will work: RouterHQ connecting to 3 Remote Routers (branch offices) via FR Pvt Network RouterHQ has 2 Ethernet Interfaces, but the Remotes Do NOTThey only have one. (I think without pause: "No Problem, I can just create a Loopback interface to take care of the other subnet.") JMcL: What other subnet are we talking about here? /JMcL The FR Pvt Network is only for Voice Traffic, while all data traffice will be going out another interface that is using IP UnNumbered Interface FastEthernet0. JMcL: Do you mean Ethernet0, or do you mean FastEthernet when you say Ethernet elsewhere, or what? /JMcL Here is where my quandry lays. I can't create a Secondary address, JMcL: To do what? /JMcL as I believe the IP UnNumbered command will use the primary address on the Ethernet Interface. So, can I create a Loopback interface, and treate it like a Ethernet interface, as such that I can assign an IP to the Loopback interface, but it have a /24 mask, and other devices on the local network can also be keyed for the same subnet as the Loopback, making it where I can give the command IP UnNumbered Lo0 to a Serial SubInterface?? JMcL: I am not sure exactly why you are wanting to create the loopback in the first place. Is it so that you have two numbered interfaces to match to your two IP unnumbered serial sub-interfaces (am I correct in thinking you want two ip unnumbered serials? One for voice and one for data?) I must admit I've never tried it, but do you *need* two separate numbered interfaces, or can you just point both unnumbered interfaces at your single Ethernet/Fast Ethernet interface? /JMcL I thought I could, but then got concerned when I hopped on CCO, and did a lookup on Loopback interfaces, and read a blurb about traffic NOT destined for the LoopBack Interface itself will be routed to 'ye old trashcan' i.e., Null Interface. Somebody please tell me that I can send traffic from one end of the circuit to the other and have it destined for a node OTHER than the Loopback Interface with that node being on the same subnet as the Loopback interface. JMcL: I don't really understand what you're trying to do or why - maybe a slightly more coherent explanation is required? Or maybe I just need another cuppa? /JMcL Thanks. Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38048&t=37933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: No go on CCIE prequal... [7:37608]
Ian, i took my routing exam in Brisbane with a pass of 838 :) How difficult is the written? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38047&t=37608 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP Metric and Route inconcistence [7:38043]
Hans PHAM wrote: Sorry for the bad figure, this is a better one .. .R2... /..\.. .../\. .R1..R4-R5 ...\/. \../.. .R3... .. Link 1-2 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms 2-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms 1-3 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 15ms 3-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms 4-5 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38046&t=38043 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to go.. [7:38031]
Your right! I havent had alot of exp yet, although I get my hands into the Switching all day! on a mix of 3548's and 6509's.. I think ill take your advice and get my NP out of the road, then I can look at spending some serious money on a good lab. I really like trying things in the lab as I read them as I feel configuring it makes alot more sense instead of just reading, as im doing BCRAN configuring multilink and isdn isnt a option, although I hope to lease a NM-4T for a 2600 I have so I can at least play with FR. Thanks for your advice, ill get a lab i think once ive finished my NP Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38045&t=38031 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: EIGRP Metric and Route inconcistence [7:38043]
Hans PHAM wrote: Sorry for the bad figure, I draw again > R2 >/ \ > /\ > R1 R4-R5 > \/ >\ / > R3 > > > Link > 1-2 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms > 2-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms > 1-3 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 15ms > 3-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms > > 4-5 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38044&t=38043 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
EIGRP Metric and Route inconcistence [7:38043]
Hi, By default EIGRP uses 2 metric: Bandwidth and Delay to calculate routes. It is recomended that we should not change the Actual Bandwith, but we can change the interface delay for the traffic enginering purposes. The metric is : Min Bandwidth + Cumulative Delay. This can end up with a problem of "route non-consiste1nce". Here is my counter example: R2 / \ /\ R1 R4-R5 \/ \ / R3 Link 1-2 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms 2-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms 1-3 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 15ms 3-4 : Bandwidth = 20M, delay = 5ms 4-5 : Bandwidth = 10M, delay = 10ms The traffic from R1 to a network directly connected to R4 will be load balance between routes R1-R2-R4 and R1-R3-R4. because the Metric of the two routes are the same: R1-R2-R4 = Bandwidth (i.e. 10^7 / 1) + Delay (i.e 1000 + 500) = = 1000 + 1000 + 500 = 2500 R1-R3-R4 = 500 + 1500 + 500 = 2500 However, traffic from R1 heading for R5 is not load-balanced because the Metric R1-R2-R4-R5 is 3500 while the metric R1-R3-R4-R5 = 4000 that means all traffic from R1 -> R5 will go via R2 That's is a kind of inconcistence, which may lead to bottleneck, and cause difficulty for traffic engineering. Could you please tell me if I am wrong or right ? If I am right, how we can overcome this problem. Thanks a lot. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38043&t=38043 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
This is really funny :) I don't think it's a sign that the industry doesn't acknowledge CCIEs as all-round experts anymore (hopefully not anyway!) I think the word "junior" is just to justify the relatively low salary range they're offering (in California). Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ken Diliberto Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 7:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034] This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38042&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ..Teltone ISDN Simulator... [7:37636]
$800 US? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38041&t=37636 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
It's "funny" because they want a JR NETWORK ENGINEER! (with ccie). In theory, a CCIE isn't a jr level. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. ""Jason"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Not sure what's so funny about it ? > Looks fine to me. > > > ""Ken Diliberto"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. > > > > http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38040&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Where to go.. [7:38031]
Kris, I didn't buy a lab until I started studying for the CCIE lab. I passed the CCNA, CCNP, CCDA, CCDP, and CCIE written without a home lab (though I did get good experience at work). I really feel that all of these tests are more "knowledge" tests rather than "practical" tests (please no flames, just my 2 cents). Also, I have spent quite a bit of $$$ on my lab. Many people recommend buying rack time, as it has gotten very inexpensive these days. I justified buying a lab to myself for with two main reasons: 1) I can test something on my home lab before suggesting it to my client. 2) I can keep my skills sharp when I'm not working. I recommend getting the NA, DA, NP, DP, and written knocked out before investing much. Maybe some online rack time for these studies would be an option, and wait until your ready to prepare for the lab to spend the $$$. The cost of equipment goes down every week, new technologies and equipment comes out all the time, and the industry focus seems to change slightly over time. hth, Dave - Original Message - From: "Kris Keen" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:12 PM Subject: Where to go.. [7:38031] > Hi Everyone, > > This is my first post..I'm currently studying for the CCNP, I have passed > Switching and Routing and are presently studying BCRAN which I hope to sit > on the 4th of April. > I work for a company who outsource all the WAN infrastructure, they are > looking at bringing the WAN inside for myself and another member of staff to > work on late Novemeber.. > > As I'm going through my CCNP with my very modest Lab (missing Frame Relay > Switch and ISDN kit) I'm passing without a issue, but am really now toying > with the idea of spending alot of money on building myself a complete lab > (Cat5k, Frame Relay Switch, ISDN, Token).. I can spend $10,000 AU.. Cisco is > something that I want to really pursue but I'm unsure if in my current > position Ill ever get to really get dirty with this stuff, or if I should > build a huge lab for myself at Home and look for a new position later in the > year when I have built up my practical skills.. > > I know the investment would be worthwhile, and I have a passion to acheive > my CCNP and CCIE... > Should I invest the money in this hardware or do what I was going to do, and > buy a really fast car... > I need to spend a bit to get my lab off the ground.. > > Speaking to Albert Lu, he really recommends buying the kit! > I'm very confused a college says I dont need any lab for my CCNP and just to > wait until I'm ready for my CCIE.. > > Any advice please! I'm 21 years of age and have my CNE, CNA, CCA, CCNA > > Thankyou! > > *confused* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38039&t=38031 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Networkers information [7:37822]
Networkers was great, I live in Sydney and love the sessions! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38038&t=37822 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OSPF Question [7:37899]
the process number is locally signifcant. Its not like the EIGRP AS number, the process id isnt sent from router to router. However, I like to configure my process ids to be the same.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38037&t=37899 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Delay metric in EIGRP [7:37768]
Thanks Phil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38036&t=37768 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
Not sure what's so funny about it ? Looks fine to me. ""Ken Diliberto"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. > > http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38035&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jr. CCIE Ad on Dice [7:38034]
This is good for a laugh. They are looking for a junior CCIE. http://www.dice.com/DandL/c/cxapga.35951.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38034&t=38034 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Free Cisco Secure ACS Server [7:37797]
Is there a TACACS server that is free for Windows? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38033&t=37797 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: SWITCH FOR CCNP BCMSN COURSE [7:37847]
I have completed that course, I would suggest if you can getting a set based and ios based switch, Cat1900 and Cat5000 are fine! I used a mix of 3548's, 6509's and also a few 1900's for my exam! Its a good idea to really practice the trunking and vlan commands on both! Hope that helps!Anthony Ramsey wrote: > > Hi All, > I was wondering if I could get some advice on the type > of Cisco switch to purchase for the BCMSN, CCNP > course. Looking over the book, it seems like there is > much emphasis on Layer 2 functionalities. I am using > the Cisco Press book by Krean Webb and the case > studies deal much with the "Set" commands. > Have any of you purchased a switch for this type of > course/LAB and based on your experience which switch > is most useful for this course and in using it for > future advanced CCIE courses? > > I appreciate your feeback- > Tony > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38032&t=37847 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Where to go.. [7:38031]
Hi Everyone, This is my first post..I'm currently studying for the CCNP, I have passed Switching and Routing and are presently studying BCRAN which I hope to sit on the 4th of April. I work for a company who outsource all the WAN infrastructure, they are looking at bringing the WAN inside for myself and another member of staff to work on late Novemeber.. As I'm going through my CCNP with my very modest Lab (missing Frame Relay Switch and ISDN kit) I'm passing without a issue, but am really now toying with the idea of spending alot of money on building myself a complete lab (Cat5k, Frame Relay Switch, ISDN, Token).. I can spend $10,000 AU.. Cisco is something that I want to really pursue but I'm unsure if in my current position Ill ever get to really get dirty with this stuff, or if I should build a huge lab for myself at Home and look for a new position later in the year when I have built up my practical skills.. I know the investment would be worthwhile, and I have a passion to acheive my CCNP and CCIE... Should I invest the money in this hardware or do what I was going to do, and buy a really fast car... I need to spend a bit to get my lab off the ground.. Speaking to Albert Lu, he really recommends buying the kit! I'm very confused a college says I dont need any lab for my CCNP and just to wait until I'm ready for my CCIE.. Any advice please! I'm 21 years of age and have my CNE, CNA, CCA, CCNA Thankyou! *confused* Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38031&t=38031 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
parsing error for SNMP packets [7:38030]
Good Day All, I am having some problems retreiving SNMP information from one of my routers here. As long as I send an SNMP get to the IP address of the dialer interface, the router returns the required information. If I send the same SNMP get request to the Ethernet interface or the loopback interface, the request times out. I setup debug SNMP packets on the router and performed the SNMP get commands again to the router. The router sent the required information for the dialer interface and returned a "parsing error' for both the ethernet interface and the loopback interface. Has anyone ever dealth with anything like this before? regards, amanda Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38030&t=38030 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PPP Multilink on Channelized DS3 [7:38029]
I was wondering if anyone has been able to PPP Multilink multiple channels of a DS3 going into a 7206 (or other Cisco router). I have multilinked multiple T1's going to seperate serial interfaces but have not tried to do it on a channelized DS3. Initial search on Cisco's site does not give me much to go on. The DS3 terminates directly into the router itself and we are currently using 12 channels for different connections. I would like to use two more channels to link up a new site. Thanks in advance. James Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38029&t=38029 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Loopback Interfaces... [7:37933]
This has got to be the most confusing message I have ever read. A loopback interface is just a virtual interface. It's not a real interface it's just a virtual interface you can create within the router, and you can create as many as you want. The biggest reason someone would want to use a loopback interface would be for resiliency. If you build a certain session to the loopback interface (BGP, DLSW...) and you have more than one path to reach this router the session will not die if a certain interface dies. ___ ( ) --- r1 >>Brian ""Mark Odette II"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Just when I thought I understood Loopback interfaces, I decided while > redesigning a network, that I would use them but now I'm questioning my > comprehension. > > Somebody clear the confusion for me- Please. > > > This is what I'm wanting to do, but not sure if this is proper utilization, > much less whether or not it will work: > > > > RouterHQ connecting to 3 Remote Routers (branch offices) via FR Pvt Network > RouterHQ has 2 Ethernet Interfaces, but the Remotes Do NOTThey only have > one. > (I think without pause: "No Problem, I can just create a Loopback interface > to take care of the other subnet.") > > The FR Pvt Network is only for Voice Traffic, while all data traffice will > be going out another interface that is using IP UnNumbered Interface > FastEthernet0. > > Here is where my quandry lays. I can't create a Secondary address, as I > believe the IP UnNumbered command will use the primary address on the > Ethernet Interface. > > So, can I create a Loopback interface, and treate it like a Ethernet > interface, as such that I can assign an IP to the Loopback interface, but it > have a /24 mask, and other devices on the local network can also be keyed > for the same subnet as the Loopback, making it where I can give the command > IP UnNumbered Lo0 to a Serial SubInterface?? > > I thought I could, but then got concerned when I hopped on CCO, and did a > lookup on Loopback interfaces, and read a blurb about traffic NOT destined > for the LoopBack Interface itself will be routed to 'ye old trashcan' i.e., > Null Interface. > > Somebody please tell me that I can send traffic from one end of the circuit > to the other and have it destined for a node OTHER than the Loopback > Interface with that node being on the same subnet as the Loopback interface. > > Thanks. > > Mark Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38028&t=37933 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN Network simulator [7:38027]
Has anyone ever heard of the K-384 ISDN Network Simulator made by Digital Engineering or have any configuration information about it? Neal Collins, MCSE, MCP+I, CNA, Compaq ASE, CCNA, CCNP Max Systems Group Inc. (416) 641-6616 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38027&t=38027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
The simulation that's on the web page is from a POS simulator they did for the Network Academies; I doubt that's the same simulator that will wind up on the tests. I looked around in the certification online support and found this: Command Lines Question What is the proper way to enter command lines during Cisco Career Certification exams? Answer There are many ways to enter command lines into actual Cisco Routers. The exam will accept all IOS commands and partial responses that an actual Cisco Router will understand. For example: 'Show Config' or 'Sho Config' or 'Sh Conf' - would be acceptable. 'Router # show ip protocol' or 'router # show ip prot' - would be acceptable. The commands must include the correct spacing, spelling and marks (#@!). I'd post a link, but it's through their "RightNow" deal and the word wrap would pretty much kill it. If you want to read it, go to the online support page at: http://ciscocert.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/ciscocert.cfg/php/enduser/home.php (watch the wrap) and search for "enter command lines". hth, Hal -Original Message- From: sam sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38010&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
Out of curiosity, what hardware/protocol do you use for an OC-192?
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To:
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Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> I work for a large ISP. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as
a
> high speed ATM link. In the cisco carrier class ATM world oc-12 is as fast
> as you go. Unless of course you use the mgx 8850, the biggest piece of
junk
> ever painted blue and stamped with a bridge. ATM is still a great way to
do
> statistical multiplexing, a great revenue stream for carriers and popular
> among the "connect all the sites in my enterprise together with DS3s
> crowd." ATM circuit emulation is darn handy for legacy video. It's days
> are numbered in larger networks. It's all but extinct in the > OC-12
> networks, but it's going to be around for a while for smaller networks.
>
>
> Mike
> ---
> Mike Bernico [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:00 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> >
> >
> > quite possibly because the big telecom providers
> > connect most of their pops/CO's with high speed
> > atm links...
> >
> >
> > Larry Letterman
> > Cisco Systems
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Patrick Ramsey
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:25 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
> >
> >
> > Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
> >
> > I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed
> > as one of it
> > +'s.
> >
> > Does Cisco even support this? This kinda creeps up even
> > further on the +'s
> > of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
> >
> > Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from
> > another, can
> > anyone even think of why atm still exists? With wdm and all the newer
> > technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so
> > saught after for
> > long distance links?
> >
> > -Patrick
> >
> >
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Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
The simulations they demo are the same type and topology configuration that we use in our academy curriculum. Anyone wishing to practice them can get the software by purchasing one of the Academy Companion Guides (Year 1 or Year 2) from Cisco Press. The simulations are on the CD that comes with the books, which are also excellent study references. As Harold Logan pointed out, you have the option in the exam simulators to enter the full or partial command, unlike the simulator on the CDs. It is the old learn to walk before you run philosophy. As others have mentioned, I would think simulations for the CCNP exams can't be far away. HTH, Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy Andy Barkl wrote: > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38025&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Selling Some Cisco Gear [7:38024]
I have a few pieces of gear currently for sale. If anyone is looking for any gear, let me know. Below is what I have for sale currently: FS: PIX-520-UR w/ 4FE: $5000.00 FS: MC3810 w/ (2) FXO, (3) FXS, (1) E&M, (1)T1MFT: $1400.00 FS: PIX-515-UR w/ 4FE: $5200.00 Thanks list, Craig Crosby -- Craig Crosby, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maxis Technologies, Inc p: 1-800-79-MAXIS 433 W. Wilshire f: 405-841-7882 Oklahoma City, OK 73116 120 day warranty AOL IM: CRAIGatMAXIS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38024&t=38024 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
I work for a large ISP. As far as I'm concerned there is no such thing as a
high speed ATM link. In the cisco carrier class ATM world oc-12 is as fast
as you go. Unless of course you use the mgx 8850, the biggest piece of junk
ever painted blue and stamped with a bridge. ATM is still a great way to do
statistical multiplexing, a great revenue stream for carriers and popular
among the "connect all the sites in my enterprise together with DS3s
crowd." ATM circuit emulation is darn handy for legacy video. It's days
are numbered in larger networks. It's all but extinct in the > OC-12
networks, but it's going to be around for a while for smaller networks.
Mike
---
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(217) 557-6555
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Letterman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
>
>
> quite possibly because the big telecom providers
> connect most of their pops/CO's with high speed
> atm links...
>
>
> Larry Letterman
> Cisco Systems
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Patrick Ramsey
> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
>
>
> Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
>
> I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed
> as one of it
> +'s.
>
> Does Cisco even support this? This kinda creeps up even
> further on the +'s
> of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
>
> Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from
> another, can
> anyone even think of why atm still exists? With wdm and all the newer
> technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so
> saught after for
> long distance links?
>
> -Patrick
>
>
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RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
Brian, In order to avoid getting caught up in the terminology (and risk that someone at your telco is using it improperly), I would state emphatically that you plan to terminate the service with a non-ISDN, relgular ol' CSU. Make certain that they know that and you should be fine. Scott Brian Zeitz wrote: > > I am being told to get a T1 (PRI). But I have to implement it > to replace > our ADSL. So for now with an T1 (PRI) I can just use a standard > Cisco > Router and CSU/DSU for the T1, and in the future, If I wanted > to break > it up, I could use a demultiplexor if I wanted to use the > channels for > something else? Initially its just my site and the ISP. Thanks > for your > post, these are really helpful. > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38014&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
With PRI it is built in, controller t1 x. Dave "Ladrach, Daniel E." wrote: > > You would have to get a different CSU for your router. > > Daniel Ladrach > CCNA, CCNP > WorldCom > > -Original Message- > From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > OK this answered my question. If my only choice is a T1 PRI, then I > don't have to worry about things not working. Like my router and > firewall, I was just thinking it was something out of the ordinary. I > need just a regular T1 for internet access, and wasn't sure what PRI > was. And if a CAS only does voice, that would not work for what I am > doing. I was thinking that if it was a T1 PRI I would need some special > cards on the router or something. > > -Original Message- > From: Chris Charlebois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 > connectivity. > Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. > However, > not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. > > The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, > as > far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled > voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard > and > supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k > "D" > channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the > advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and > additional > call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less > channel. > > So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38022&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
NAT Order of Operation [7:38021]
Someone just posted something on the CCIE list and while researching the answer I found this page: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/556/5.html After looking at that page, it appears to me that it's safe to say the if you're in an environment that uses both NAT and Policy-Based Routing, the IP addresses you use in the policy maps are _always_ local addresses, either inside local or outside local. Is that correct? It seems that it would never be the case where you'd use an outside local or outside global address within a route map. Is that a true statement? Thanks, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38021&t=38021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
"you should always remember the full command." - are you simply referring to exam situations, or do you consider that in "real life" it is necessary to remember the full commands? (No, I don't consider exams to be real life ;-) If you're just talking about exams, fair enough, but if you're talking about real world situations, why do you think this? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/03/2002 08:47 am - "Andy Barkl" Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/03/2002 05:41 am Please respond to "Andy Barkl" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should always remember the full command. The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real equipment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38020&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IGS image? [7:37941]
The 2500 is a descendant of the IGS series router. Think of the IGS as the grandfather of the 2500 with the 3000 being the father of the 2500. The IGS is just the generation of the IOS in this case (for the most part.) ""Stuart Laubstein"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Would anyone be able to tell me anything about the bolded parts of the > following dialog. It is for a 2501 I do not know what an IGS image is > thanks > stuart > Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software IOS (tm) 3000 Software > (IGS-IN-L), Version 11.1(13a), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) Copyright (c) > 1986-1997 by cisco Systems, Inc. Compiled Wed 13-Aug-97 15:22 by tlane Image > text-base: 0x03023AF8, data-base: 0x1000 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version > 11.0(10c), SOFTWARE ROM: 3000 Bootstrap Software (IGS-BOOT-R), Version > 11.0(10c), RELEASE SOFTWARE ( fc1) tre_burgos uptime is 0 minutes System > restarted by power-on System image file is "flash:igs-in-l.111-13a", booted > via flash cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision N) with 2048K/2048K bytes > of memory. Processor board ID 06148111, with hardware revision > Bridging software. X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP > compliant. 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface. 2 Serial network interfaces. 32K > bytes of non-volatile configuration memory. 8192K bytes of processor board > System flash (Read ONLY) Configuration register is 0x2102 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38019&t=37941 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
You would have to get a different CSU for your router. Daniel Ladrach CCNA, CCNP WorldCom -Original Message- From: Brian Zeitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] OK this answered my question. If my only choice is a T1 PRI, then I don't have to worry about things not working. Like my router and firewall, I was just thinking it was something out of the ordinary. I need just a regular T1 for internet access, and wasn't sure what PRI was. And if a CAS only does voice, that would not work for what I am doing. I was thinking that if it was a T1 PRI I would need some special cards on the router or something. -Original Message- From: Chris Charlebois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard and supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k "D" channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and additional call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less channel. So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38017&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T-1 to E-1 conversions [7:38016]
Does anyone know the commands for converting a AS5300 with 4 T-1 ports to an AS5300 with 4 E-1 ports. It's one of those undocumented IOS things. The hardware upgrade is easy but I'm not sure what to do on the IOS side of things. Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38016&t=38016 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
quite possibly because the big telecom providers
connect most of their pops/CO's with high speed
atm links...
Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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Subject: VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed as one of it
+'s.
Does Cisco even support this? This kinda creeps up even further on the +'s
of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from another, can
anyone even think of why atm still exists? With wdm and all the newer
technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so saught after for
long distance links?
-Patrick
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RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
I am being told to get a T1 (PRI). But I have to implement it to replace our ADSL. So for now with an T1 (PRI) I can just use a standard Cisco Router and CSU/DSU for the T1, and in the future, If I wanted to break it up, I could use a demultiplexor if I wanted to use the channels for something else? Initially its just my site and the ISP. Thanks for your post, these are really helpful. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] This is not quite right. Yes, ISDN PRI is physically a channelized T-1. In this case you have 23 data bearing channels and one signalling channel. For data, you can order a channelized T-1 if you need to. This gives you 24 channels available for data, but they are entirely separate channels. This probably isn't very common. You will see this sort of thing with a DS3 quite a lot, though. For example, we have a few channelized DS3s coming into our building here. On our end we demultiplex them, splitting them out to their individual DS1 channels. The other data option which is most common is a clear channel T-1. This is not channelized and provides a single 'channel' at 1.544 Mbps. If you were to order a point-to-point circuit between locations, this is what you'd order. HTH, John >>> "Chris Charlebois" 3/12/02 12:43:03 PM >>> T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard and supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k "D" channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and additional call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less channel. So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38013&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
On the written test for all the CCNP test I did, no abbrv's were allowed either. I am about to sit the CCIE written and still there are no abbrv's allowed. So its not like they changed anything for the new CCNA.if you know the commands you wont have any problems.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes > software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38012&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
About time they make the exam a bit more difficult! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] The CCNA exam 640-507 has been replaced by 640-607 and now includes software simulation questions requiring you to configure a network. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/whats_new/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38011&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
Please excuse my Gripe about the Switching CIM in my last post on this thread... Just as I sent the message, I realized I was mixing "apples a.k.a. CCNA" with "oranges a.k.a. CCNP" for Cisco Career Certification prep. Thanks, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should always remember the full command. The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real equipment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38009&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
I still think it would be a waste to memorize the entire command. In the real world you get the ? option so what point in memorizing everything. They're better off testing us on harder configs than making us type out the whole command and memorize the exact options. The CCNA is entry level and is not bound to any specific hardware or IOS version. We all know that commands are slightly different on the various routers and switches so it only makes sense to give the ? option. (example look at the difference in creating vlans on a 1900, 3500XL, and 2948GL-3) There is no CCIE that would be able to survive day without the ? option just the same as there is no UNIX admin that would get by without typing man " " or using some form of the -h option. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should > always remember the full command. > > The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support > the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real > equipment. > > > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > sam sneed > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] > > I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. > No > abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to > make > their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're > simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without > using tab completion or "?". > > My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP > too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're > going > to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38007&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
I've used both simulators from the sites you referred to ... and though they give a little exposure, I found for the most part that they still were lame. 30-40% of the commands that the tutorials tell you to give in the simulator don't actually work. And you get a verrry limited help on only the commands that the tutorial session is covering. If you wanted to query help for a command in a previous lab simulation, your S.O.L it doesn't allow it. A personal gripe for the Switching CIM: It doesn't cover MLS :( I would expect this to be a more important topic of the subject than configuring Multicast. How many Small to Medium networks do you see using Multicast (I know I haven't)... How many Small to Medium networks do you see using MLS (I've seen at least a couple of those). But... you are quite correct... Nothing beats the real equipment! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 12:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should always remember the full command. The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real equipment. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of sam sneed Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I tried the simulation and it makes you type out every single command. No abreviations and no "?" allowed. Thats is retarded. If there going to make their simulation they should do it right, it is their software they're simulating. I'd like to see anyone doing any half decent config without using tab completion or "?". My thoughts are that its a great idea, and should be applied to the CCNP too, but the simulation should be as accurate as possible.If they're going to be half-assed about it don't do it at all. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38008&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
OK this answered my question. If my only choice is a T1 PRI, then I don't have to worry about things not working. Like my router and firewall, I was just thinking it was something out of the ordinary. I need just a regular T1 for internet access, and wasn't sure what PRI was. And if a CAS only does voice, that would not work for what I am doing. I was thinking that if it was a T1 PRI I would need some special cards on the router or something. -Original Message- From: Chris Charlebois [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard and supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k "D" channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and additional call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less channel. So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38006&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
Nope! T1 CAS can be used for either data or voice. The same for ISDN (PRI) T1. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard and supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k "D" channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and additional call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less channel. So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38005&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
a T1 is a physical layer circuit. ISDN's PRI is technology that rides inside a T1. So you could have a T1 between two sites in a point to point setup, or You could have a PRI that forms a point to point when dialed across any of its B channels, between to sites what you have is a T1 between you and a telco (isdn) switch and your site. This connects you to the toll switched network or PSTN cloud. At the cloud you can make a call on any of the 23 B channels a B channel is 64k but there is another channel which is the D channel, taking up the last 64k channel. A T1 has 24 channels. Brian Zeitz wrote: >OK, I am just confused, is a T1, and a T1 PRI are the terms used >interchangeably? What about ISDN PRI? Hope you don't mind newbie >questions :) > >-Original Message- >From: Sujal G. Ajmera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:26 PM >To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > >PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to a T1 - >1.5Mb > >For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI > >HTH > >Suj > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Brian Zeitz >Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:31 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > >Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think >that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, >with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a >regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told >I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be >appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38004&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fraud at Postal Plus [7:38002]
Hi Guys Be careful when next time you go to the "Postal Plus 1685,Branham Lane,San Jose CA". Because I was there to send a parcel to Japan Via Air Mail and they ripped me off. The parcel was supposed to go by Air Mail and they charged me $167.90 for that and then they sent the parcel Via Surface mail for a cost of $50.50 only. Although I have reported the matter to the office of District Attorney, Consumer Protection Unit, an Jose and they are doing their investigation. In the meantime if you happen to be there to do a business with them just be extra careful and make sure that you are getting for what you paid for. Forward this mail to your friends so that they will not be taken advantage of by these people in a similar way. Follow this link to see the location of this business Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38002&t=38002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VLoFR and atm popularity [7:38003]
Cisco support vlan tagging over frame circuits?
I was looking at a Tierra networks router and it was listed as one of it +'s.
Does Cisco even support this? This kinda creeps up even further on the +'s
of atm and how long atm is going to survive.
Other than being capable of joining elans at oen fac. from another, can
anyone even think of why atm still exists? With wdm and all the newer
technology coming around the corner, why is atm still so saught after for
long distance links?
-Patrick
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RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
If you're well on your way to the CCNP, I wouldn't be very concerned with any changes to the CCNA... it'll be easy for you. Sean -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 10:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38000&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
John, You make a good point that channelized T-1s are all but unheard of. However, the term "clear channel" doesn't mean unchannelized. It means that the DS0s are the full 64 kbps, as opposed to the older bit-robbed 56 kbps DS0. Scott John Neiberger wrote: > > This is not quite right. Yes, ISDN PRI is physically a > channelized T-1. > In this case you have 23 data bearing channels and one > signalling > channel. > > For data, you can order a channelized T-1 if you need to. This > gives > you 24 channels available for data, but they are entirely > separate > channels. This probably isn't very common. You will see this > sort of > thing with a DS3 quite a lot, though. For example, we have a > few > channelized DS3s coming into our building here. On our end we > demultiplex them, splitting them out to their individual DS1 > channels. > > The other data option which is most common is a clear channel > T-1. > This is not channelized and provides a single 'channel' at > 1.544 Mbps. > If you were to order a point-to-point circuit between > locations, this is > what you'd order. > > HTH, > John > > >>> "Chris Charlebois" 3/12/02 12:43:03 > PM >>> > T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 > connectivity. > Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. > However, > not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. > > The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated > signaling > and, as > far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of > sampled > voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital > standard > and > supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and > 1 64k > "D" > channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI > has the > advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and > additional > call information from the telephone provider. However, it has > 1 less > channel. > > So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37999&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
If you plan on terminating only analog calls then channelized T1 is fine and generally cheaper. Want ISDN, get a PRI. Dave Brian Zeitz wrote: > > Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think > that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, > with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a > regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told > I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be > appreciated. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 "Emotion should reflect reason not guide it" Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37998&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
Tarek, Good point about the overuse of the term "T-1." Generically, DS-1 (digital signal level 1) implies a particular structure (24 x 64 kbps DS0s, etc) while T-1 refers to the facility (bipolar transmission of 1.544 Mbps, line code, etc). There are finer points to be debated about the distinction between the two, but suffice it to say that T-1 does not necessarily imply DS-1 (although the two are somewhat synonomous in my world) and it certainly doesn't apply to ISDN PRI exclusively. Scott Tarek Sabry wrote: > > No but ISDN PRI and T1 PRI ARE used interchangeably. You need > to distinguish > between 2 things here: T1 PRI and T1 CAS (Channel-Associated > Signalling). So > T1 is used to describe the rate of the line here. A better way > is to use the > term DS1 because T1 actually refers to the signalling scheme. > > Normally when people refer to just "T1", they mean T1 CAS. > > Tarek > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On > Behalf Of > Brian Zeitz > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > > OK, I am just confused, is a T1, and a T1 PRI are the terms used > interchangeably? What about ISDN PRI? Hope you don't mind newbie > questions :) > > -Original Message- > From: Sujal G. Ajmera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:26 PM > To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to > a T1 - > 1.5Mb > > For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI > > HTH > > Suj > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On > Behalf Of > Brian Zeitz > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:31 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] > > > Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I > think > that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of > using PRI, > with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just > like a > regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I > was told > I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be > appreciated. > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37997&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
This is not quite right. Yes, ISDN PRI is physically a channelized T-1. In this case you have 23 data bearing channels and one signalling channel. For data, you can order a channelized T-1 if you need to. This gives you 24 channels available for data, but they are entirely separate channels. This probably isn't very common. You will see this sort of thing with a DS3 quite a lot, though. For example, we have a few channelized DS3s coming into our building here. On our end we demultiplex them, splitting them out to their individual DS1 channels. The other data option which is most common is a clear channel T-1. This is not channelized and provides a single 'channel' at 1.544 Mbps. If you were to order a point-to-point circuit between locations, this is what you'd order. HTH, John >>> "Chris Charlebois" 3/12/02 12:43:03 PM >>> T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard and supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k "D" channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and additional call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less channel. So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37996&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
I'm afraid that isn't so. You can order channelized and non-channelized T-1s to do whatever you want with. So there is a big difference between an ISDN PRI (and all of the associate ISDN stuff - D channel, etc) and a run-of-the-mill T-1 (and its total lack thereof). Placing a CSU/DSU on the end of a T-1 gives you access to 24 x 64 kbps timeslots. Often times there is but one port, providing you with a single <= 1.536 kbps serial data stream. Also, multiport models are available, and you can divide the timeslots as necessary between the ports. In some rare cases, the end user equipment is built with a T-1 interface and connects directly to the telco local loop. The use of T-1s by telcos for bearing voice is the historical one. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37995&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
No but ISDN PRI and T1 PRI ARE used interchangeably. You need to distinguish between 2 things here: T1 PRI and T1 CAS (Channel-Associated Signalling). So T1 is used to describe the rate of the line here. A better way is to use the term DS1 because T1 actually refers to the signalling scheme. Normally when people refer to just "T1", they mean T1 CAS. Tarek -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] OK, I am just confused, is a T1, and a T1 PRI are the terms used interchangeably? What about ISDN PRI? Hope you don't mind newbie questions :) -Original Message- From: Sujal G. Ajmera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:26 PM To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to a T1 - 1.5Mb For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI HTH Suj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37994&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
A fellow that I work with just took the CCNA today, it is currently still testing at the 507 level. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of VanHaaren, Nicole Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] A friend of mine just scheduled hers today, but is still taking the 640-507 test. Nicole VanHaaren, CCNP, CCSE Systems Consultant Broadwing Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37993&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BGP issue ??? [7:37730]
Yes, unless you have an IGP running between these peers. Since BGP uses a TCP session it will first have to established this TCP connection before routing updates can be distributed between peers. (carriage in front of the horse syndrome) If you do not have the static route OR an underlying way (IGP) for the router to learn how to get to that loopback address on the other peer the BGP TCP session will never establish and no BGP updates will occur. >>>Brian ""Stanzin Takpa"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > In the following cisco configuration , Is the static route necessary, either > it is ebgp or ibgp? > > > > > ROUTER-A > interface Loopback0 > ip address 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.255 > ! > interface Serial1 > ip address 10.10.10.1 255.255.255.0 > ! > router bgp 400 > neighbor 1.1.1.1 remote-as 400 > neighbor 1.1.1.1 update-source Loopback0 > ! > ip route 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 10.10.10.2 > > > ROUTER-B > interface Loopback0 > ip address 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.255 > ! > interface Serial1 > ip address 10.10.10.2 255.255.255.0 > ! > router bgp 400 > neighbor 2.2.2.2 remote-as 400 > neighbor 2.2.2.2 update-source Loopback0 > ! > ip route 2.2.2.2 255.255.255.255 10.10.10.1 > > > > Stanzin Takpa Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37992&t=37730 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: bgp multihome [7:37948]
thanks john, yeah, kinda spooky is right. We have about 30 sites on a frame right now (most 128k circuits) and we are seriously looking at a ds3 for one of the connections so we can just do vpn. And they want me to decide on this stuff so that it works. My complaint has been from the start, "hey, tell me what you want to have and what you see for the future and I can help you build it." Their response, "oh... do we have to tell you now?" thanks again! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37991&t=37948 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Voice Cert [7:37965]
I positive your answer is on the CD documentation which means it is on the web site. Jeremy Rogers wrote: >Hi there, >I was wondering if anyone can help me on this. I just took the CIPT test >and there was a question on there that I can not seem to locate the answer >for. I am not looking for the answer, merely a resource as to where I can >find it. The question is as follows: >"What is the error message on the call manager when no more DNs are >available. I have looked in the Cisco Press Ip Telephony book as well as >searching on the Cisco site. Once again, is there anyone that could help me >locate a resource to finding this answer? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37990&t=37965 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
T-1 is the layer 1 standard. ISDN PRI uses T-1 for layer 1 connectivity. Therefore, whenever you say ISDN PRI, you are referring to T-1. However, not all T-1's are ISDN PRI. The "other" T-1 is referred to as CAS, channel associated signaling and, as far as I know, is only used for voice. It allows 24 channels of sampled voice. ISDN PRI (aka common channel signaling) is a digital standard and supports 23 64k "B" channels (that can carry voice or data) and 1 64k "D" channel that carries control information. Voice over ISDN PRI has the advantage of a dedicated control channel for troubleshooting and additional call information from the telephone provider. However, it has 1 less channel. So if you are ordering a data T-1, your only choice is ISDN PRI. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37989&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
No need. And your CCNP will update the expiration date of your existing CCNA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37987&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
I am very near the CCIE level and I understand what you are saying. However the fact remains that the exams require full command line knowledge and most simulators are designed to support that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Scott H. Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I never use the full commands anymore. Takes too much time. You will find when you get to the CCIE level that you don't have time for it and for the most part forget the entire commands. You just remember the abbreviated ones. ""Andy Barkl"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Why would the exam simulator give you the help option? And you should > always remember the full command. > > The simulators from www.CiscoPress.com and www.RouterSim.com do support > the help command and abbreviated commands. But nothing beats real > equipment. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37986&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
OK, I am just confused, is a T1, and a T1 PRI are the terms used interchangeably? What about ISDN PRI? Hope you don't mind newbie questions :) -Original Message- From: Sujal G. Ajmera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:26 PM To: Brian Zeitz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] PRI gives you 23 channels of 64K each.. Which is equivalent to a T1 - 1.5Mb For a VPDN, users could dial into a PRI HTH Suj -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Zeitz Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 12:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983] Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37985&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960]
A friend of mine just scheduled hers today, but is still taking the 640-507 test. Nicole VanHaaren, CCNP, CCSE Systems Consultant Broadwing Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: The CCNA exam has changed effective 3-12-02 [7:37960] I think this is a great idea. However, I'm halfway thru my CCNP certification. Is it going to be necessary or advisable to recert in the 600 track? Please advise. Jeff +++The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document.+++ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and destroy any copies of this document. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37984&t=37960 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
T1 Vs ISDN PR [7:37983]
Is there any drawbacks to getting a T1 PRI vs. a regular T1 (I think that's called channelized). I am not sure of the drawbacks of using PRI, with VPN, and things like that work fine over PRI? Is PRI just like a regular T1? The reason I am asking is I tried to get a T1 and I was told I could only get PRI ISDN. Any help or links for this would be appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=37983&t=37983 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
