RE: PPP MULTILINK LOAD THRIESHOLD [7:41783]

2002-04-18 Thread Richard Botham

Anthony,
I think (?) that ppp multilink load threshold is used when you bundle 2 or
more serial interfaces in to a multilink channel.
Not sure, but I'll have a look

HTH 
Richard


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RE: stub areas and virtual-links [7:41744]

2002-04-18 Thread Richard Botham

Sean,
Doyle VOl1 page 465 says:
'The transit area cannot be a stub area'
>From that I would assume that a virtual link could not cross a stub area in
any fashion.
I will check when I ge a moment.

Rich


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OT: 8540 & Truetime GPS [7:41808]

2002-04-18 Thread Hendricks, Thomas (Tom)

We are trying to use a Truetime XL-DC GPS to provide timing to a Cisco 8540
via wire wrap pins to an ATM E-1 BNC connector.  Has anyone in the group
ever worked with this combination?  If so, please send a list of materials
you used to connect the two devices.  The manual says the XL-DC will provide
a framed signal via the optional interface, 87-6000E1-5, with BNC
connectors, no wire wrap, but their tech support says it will only do that
via wire wrap.

I am not convinced that we cannot get this combiniation to work but time is
of the essence so now I need to know what parts to buy.  Tech support is not
very clear on this topic - saying we use clips in our lab.  Clips in the
real world just will not suffice.

Also, any configuration options you utilized on the 8540 would be
appreciated.


Thanks...

Tom




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OT: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Antonio Montana

Hi all,

Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't decide wether
to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.

I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's getting harder to
find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing jobs like System
or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at all. It's just
like creating some user logins, assigning and administering IP addresses and
do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.

Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so. 

I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I really think
about going to school and getting a management education.
Jobs for MBA's are still there.

Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's the recognition
they earn ?!?

So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the "dark side" ??

What do you think guys ??

cheers
tony





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What do you think? [7:41810]

2002-04-18 Thread Kwame

I work for a large public university and we're debating this snmp community
strings issue. The issue is this: one faction thinks the community strings
on switches within the Students Res Halls should be different from strings
on switches serving the rest of the campus for security reasons. The network
infrastructure consists of layer 3 cisco swithes at the core layer and layer
2 cisco & 3com switches at the edges. There are no layer 3 devices in the
Res Halls. My question is this: does such a separation gain us anything
significant with regard to security? What's the group's take on this?
Thanks.




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RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

In my opinion, I think it all depends on just how much you like doing IT
stuff, regardless of what you're doing (System Admin, Network Admin, etc.).
Personally, I love doing IT and would prefer the CCIE over an MBA, even if
the salary isn't great right now. Sure it's fun to complain about how
underpaid most of us are right now but the bottom line is: Make sure you're
going to enjoy what you're doing. A big salary won't help if you're
miserable at work every day.

Shawn K.

> -Original Message-
> From: Antonio Montana [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:07 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  OT: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't decide
> wether
> to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.
> 
> I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's getting harder
> to
> find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
> Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
> The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing jobs like
> System
> or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at all. It's just
> like creating some user logins, assigning and administering IP addresses
> and
> do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.
> 
> Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
> But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so. 
> 
> I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I really think
> about going to school and getting a management education.
> Jobs for MBA's are still there.
> 
> Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's the recognition
> they earn ?!?
> 
> So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the "dark side" ??
> 
> What do you think guys ??
> 
> cheers
> tony




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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread John Johnson

I'd try the MBA or better yet a MS in CS.  Then if market conditions change
you can always stop the MS route and get the CCIE.  If they don't, then you
can get the CCIE afterwards.  It's a better road with fewer bumps than going
down a single path.  Also, you'll want to consider getting the MBA after you
get the MS.  It appears to me that the big networking jobs like we saw in
the mid to late nineties have all been built and unless you were in the
right place at the right time a good job like we saw has disappeared until
there is a paradigm shift in the market place.

It seems to get the dream jobs right now the more education you have the
better off you are.  Especially if you have a Masters degree in Math from a
big name school.  In the States that would be from MIT, Cal-Tech, or say
Harvard to name a few brand names.

Good Luck.


""Antonio Montana""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
>
> Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't decide
wether
> to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.
>
> I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's getting harder
to
> find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
> Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
> The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing jobs like
System
> or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at all. It's just
> like creating some user logins, assigning and administering IP addresses
and
> do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.
>
> Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
> But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so.
>
> I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I really think
> about going to school and getting a management education.
> Jobs for MBA's are still there.
>
> Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's the recognition
> they earn ?!?
>
> So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the "dark side" ??
>
> What do you think guys ??
>
> cheers
> tony




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MS IAS with 3640 Authorization failure [7:41814]

2002-04-18 Thread Johan Strandloof

Hi everyone,

I'm having trouble with MS IAS and a 3640 for dial-in. The user is
authenticated fine - but authorizatin fails with:
"RADIUS: no appropriate authorization type for user"

>From what I've found these would be the case when the attributes
Service-Type=Framed and Framed-Protocol=PPP are missing from the
RADIUS-server. These setting are however there in the default dial-in
profile in MS IAS.

Any thoughts??

Config and debug below.

Thanks !

Johan

3w6d: %ISDN-6-CONNECT: Interface Serial1/0:2 is now connected to 858714800
3w6d: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Async30, changed state to up
3w6d: As30 PPP: Treating connection as a dedicated line
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/FSM: (0): LCP succeeds trivially
3w6d: AAA/ACCT/DS0: channel=2, ds1=0, t3=0, slot=1, ds0=16777218
3w6d: As30 MS-CHAP: O CHALLENGE id 6 len 22 from "Cisco-RAS"
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/FSM: (0): LCP succeeds trivially
3w6d: AAA/ACCT/DS0: channel=2, ds1=0, t3=0, slot=1, ds0=16777218
3w6d: As30 MS-CHAP: O CHALLENGE id 7 len 22 from "Cisco-RAS"
3w6d: As30 MS-CHAP: I RESPONSE id 7 len 70 from "INSIDE\rasdialin"
3w6d: AAA: parse name=Async30 idb type=10 tty=30
3w6d: AAA: name=Async30 flags=0x11 type=4 shelf=0 slot=0 adapter=0 port=30
chann
el=0
3w6d: AAA: parse name=Serial1/0:2 idb type=13 tty=-1
3w6d: AAA: name=Serial1/0:2 flags=0x55 type=1 shelf=0 slot=1 adapter=0
port=0 ch
annel=2
3w6d: AAA/ACCT/DS0: channel=2, ds1=0, t3=0, slot=1, ds0=16777218
3w6d: AAA/MEMORY: create_user (0x615B78A0) user='INSIDE\rasdialin'
ruser='NULL'
port='Async30' rem_addr='858714800/0858765920' authen_type=MSCHAP
service=PPP pr
iv=1 initial_task_id='0'
3w6d: RADIUS: ustruct sharecount=0
3w6d: Radius: radius_port_info() success=1 radius_nas_port=1
3w6d: RADIUS: Initial Transmit Async30 id 43 172.16.16.252:1645,
Access-Request,
 len 165
3w6d: Attribute 4 6 AC1010FB
3w6d: Attribute 5 6 001E
3w6d: Attribute 61 6 
3w6d: Attribute 1 18 494E5349
3w6d: Attribute 30 12 30383538
3w6d: Attribute 31 11 38353837
3w6d: Attribute 26 16 01370B0A64BA
3w6d: Attribute 26 58 013701340701
3w6d: Attribute 6 6 0002
3w6d: Attribute 7 6 0001
3w6d: RADIUS: Received from id 43 172.16.16.252:1645, Access-Accept, len 119
3w6d: Attribute 7 6 0001
3w6d: Attribute 6 6 0004
3w6d: Attribute 25 32 5F1B06C0
3w6d: Attribute 26 40 01370C224097
3w6d: Attribute 26 15 01370A090749
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP: Authorize LCP
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP (548968306): Port='Async30' list='' service=NET
3w6d: AAA/AUTHOR/LCP: As30 (548968306) user='INSIDE\rasdialin'
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP (548968306): send AV service=ppp
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP (548968306): send AV protocol=lcp
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP (548968306): found list "default"
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP (548968306): Method=radius (radius)
3w6d: RADIUS: unrecognized Microsoft VSA type 10
3w6d: RADIUS: no appropriate authorization type for user.
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR (548968306): Post authorization status = FAIL
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/LCP: Denied
3w6d: As30 MS-CHAP: O FAILURE id 7 len 24 msg is "Authorization failed"
3w6d: AAA/MEMORY: free_user (0x615B78A0) user='INSIDE\rasdialin'
ruser='NULL' po
rt='Async30' rem_addr='858714800/0858765920' authen_type=MSCHAP service=PPP
priv
=1
3w6d: As30 AAA/AUTHOR/FSM: (0): LCP succeeds trivially
3w6d: AAA/ACCT/DS0: channel=2, ds1=0, t3=0, slot=1, ds0=16777218
3w6d: %ISDN-6-DISCONNECT: Interface Serial1/0:2  disconnected from 858714800
, c
all lasted 25 seconds

version 12.2
no parser cache
no service single-slot-reload-enable
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
!
hostname Cisco-RAS
!
no logging rate-limit
aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default group radius local
aaa authentication login NO_AUTHEN none
aaa authentication ppp default if-needed group radius local
aaa authorization network default group radius
enable secret x
enable password x
!
modem country mica sweden
ip subnet-zero
!
!
no ip domain-lookup
!
no ip dhcp-client network-discovery
isdn switch-type primary-net5

!
controller E1 1/0
 framing NO-CRC4
 pri-group timeslots 1-31
!
controller E1 1/1
!
!
interface FastEthernet1/0
 ip address 172.16.16.251 255.255.240.0
 duplex auto
 speed auto
!
interface Serial1/0:15
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet1/0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool-member 1
 isdn switch-type primary-net5
 isdn incoming-voice modem
 no fair-queue
 ppp callback accept
 ppp authentication pap
 ppp multilink
!
interface Group-Async1
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet1/0
 encapsulation ppp
 async mode interactive
 peer default ip address dhcp
 ppp callback accept
 ppp authentication ms-chap chap
 group-range 1 30
!
interface Dialer1
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet1/0
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool 1
 dialer-group 1
 peer default ip address dhcp
 ppp callback accept
 ppp authentication ms-chap chap
!
ip classless
i

Re: Basic PIX clarification ... [7:41779]

2002-04-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Paul,

To Explain this pls understand these terminology ,

NAT command  - Is required when the traffic flows from Higher security
level to lower security Level,You must configure this Even if you dont want
to translate the inside address . (i.e use nat 0 in this case).This
statement defines the internal network address which you want to translate.

Global -- Is only required when you want to do Network Address Translation
when the traffic flows from higher security level to lower security
level.This statement provides the Translated address for the network
connected to the lower security level.

Static - Is required when the traffic flows from lower security level to
higher security level.This configuration  is must.

Access-list - Can be used in both direction.This defines what is accessible
in each direction.




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Are the following statements correct ???
Connections on the Pix are defined as either from lower to higher
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Higher to Lower security connections are controlled by the access-list
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Lower to Higher security connections are controlled by nat and global
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Was Re: longest match vs. other metrics [7:41692]

2002-04-18 Thread bergenpeak

Related question to the above thread.  

As discussed, each routing protocol will maintain its list of prefixes
that it knows about.  A route selection process runs that considers the
routes from each routing process and puts the "best" into the routing
table.  (best being defined by the route selection process).

"show ip route" will show those routes selected and in the routing
table.

Is there an equivalent command that will show me the same information
(prefix/length, next hop/interface) for all the prefixs known by a
routing protocol?   Suppose I'm running OSPF and BGP on a box and I
wanted to see what prefix/lengths are being carried in each routing
protocol.  What commands would I use to see this?

Thanks




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RE: Was Re: longest match vs. other metrics [7:41692]

2002-04-18 Thread McCallum, Robert

show ip route ospf
show ip bgp
show ip route ?

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Subject: Was Re: longest match vs. other metrics [7:41692]


Related question to the above thread.  

As discussed, each routing protocol will maintain its list of prefixes
that it knows about.  A route selection process runs that considers the
routes from each routing process and puts the "best" into the routing
table.  (best being defined by the route selection process).

"show ip route" will show those routes selected and in the routing
table.

Is there an equivalent command that will show me the same information
(prefix/length, next hop/interface) for all the prefixs known by a
routing protocol?   Suppose I'm running OSPF and BGP on a box and I
wanted to see what prefix/lengths are being carried in each routing
protocol.  What commands would I use to see this?

Thanks




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Re: ccie 351-001 [7:41655]

2002-04-18 Thread Wallace Lee

I have check the Web site again. It is now corrected to Routing and
Switching rather
then CCIE Communication and Services This is certainly typo mistake.


rgds


Greg Macaulay wrote:

> I just checked the Cisco Website and it makes no mention of getting credit
> for the CCIE Communication and Services Lab Requirement by passing the beta
> CCIE written.  In fact, what it does say, and I quote:
>
> If candidates pass the beta version, full credit will be given toward the
> written exam requirement for the CCIE Routing and Switching lab exam.
>
> Let's try and not misstate info which can only mislead the group.
> Misstating and misleading is usually relegated to politicians on Capitol
> Hill!!
>
> Greg Macaulay
> Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth
> Lifetime AARP member
> Retired Attorney/Law Professor
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: ccie 351-001 [7:41655]
>
> on the cisco site it states that if you pass the beta R&S written you get
> credit for the CCIE Communication and Services Lab Requirement, which makes
> no sense except they don't want you taking the cheap written for the most
> popular CCIE.
>
> --T
>
> Wallace Lee wrote:
> >
> > I have go through the announcement from Cisco Web. I wonder if
> > I can use this writen
> > test 351-001 to apply the LAB Test which is still 350-001.
> > Anyone have info about this ?
> >
> > rgds
> >
> >
> > khalid ameen wrote:
> >
> > > is there any news about the beta CCIE new exam 351-001
> > > ?
> > > any news,
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax
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Help! Confreg setting put to 0x1102 on 1700 [7:41819]

2002-04-18 Thread Richard Dennard

Help please...I set the confreg incorrectly on 1700 and now can't get it
back up with hyperterm.  Does anyone know what term settings for this
confreg (0x1102) should look like. Or any other way to get the router
back to default setting of 0x2102.  Thanks for your help.

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RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Ladrach, Daniel E.

I was considering both options I have a MIS degree from The Ohio
State University. After getting my CCNP and working for a large ISP and
seeing a co-worker pass the lab and get nothing but a pat on the back from
our company; I made the decision to enroll in an MBA program this fall.
After carefully reviewing my options, I did not want to put myself in such a
nich market. I think you need to ask yourself where can you go with a CCIE?
ISP, Consult, work for yourself. I know there are other companies that would
hire a CCIE but you probably would not be utalized to your full potential.
Also, a MBA does not expire and if you ever want to be a CTO or CIO most
likely you are going to need the education. I have debated this same topic
with my friends and co-workers and there is no easy answer. I think it is
personal preference but I will say a few things about the CCIE, salaries are
coming down due to the fact that there are more CCIE's(some are not the
experts they should be). The only reason I say this is once you get your
CCIE you should be an expert hence Internetworking Expert. I know people may
disagree with some of these statements, but I have seen some CCIE candidates
that have issues with basic skills.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


> -Original Message-
> From: Antonio Montana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't 
> decide wether
> to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.
> 
> I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's 
> getting harder to
> find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
> Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
> The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing 
> jobs like System
> or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at 
> all. It's just
> like creating some user logins, assigning and administering 
> IP addresses and
> do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.
> 
> Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
> But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so. 
> 
> I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I 
> really think
> about going to school and getting a management education.
> Jobs for MBA's are still there.
> 
> Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's 
> the recognition
> they earn ?!?
> 
> So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the 
> "dark side" ??
> 
> What do you think guys ??
> 
> cheers
> tony




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CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]

2002-04-18 Thread John McCartney

Hi all,

I have a CAT5K (16M-DRAM/8Mb-flash)that I tried to upgrade the software to
4.5(6a) and I keep gettin gthe error "PAGP-3-CONGPORTCHLFAIL" everytime I
connect up to the supervisor II 10/100 ports. I looked up the error msg and
it says to reset the module and it should clear up, but it doesn't. How can
I remove the image from flash? Any help is appreciated.


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Re: What do you think? [7:41810]

2002-04-18 Thread John Neiberger

I would agree that this is a good idea.  In an area where students have
access, it's always possible that they could use a sniffer of some sort
to determine the community strings.  If you have a set of strings used
only in the residence halls, that would limit the usefulness of their
discovery.

John

>>> "Kwame"  4/18/02 5:28:47 AM >>>
I work for a large public university and we're debating this snmp
community
strings issue. The issue is this: one faction thinks the community
strings
on switches within the Students Res Halls should be different from
strings
on switches serving the rest of the campus for security reasons. The
network
infrastructure consists of layer 3 cisco swithes at the core layer and
layer
2 cisco & 3com switches at the edges. There are no layer 3 devices in
the
Res Halls. My question is this: does such a separation gain us
anything
significant with regard to security? What's the group's take on this?
Thanks.




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RE: Last changes [7:41580]

2002-04-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks Mark, but  we don't have configured the router with AAA, we have
defined several users in the router, (simply: username A password ),
and when some user changes the configuration or saves it in NVRAM appears
new lines in the configuration:

 sh run

.
...

Current configuration : 2352 bytes
> !
> ! Last configuration change at 11:45:15 UTC Tue Apr 9
by XXX

> ! NVRAM config last updated at 12:23:50 UTC Thu  Apr
4 2002 by XXX


 I think this is a very interesting feature, because you can see who
made the last change without looking the log of the router

 I sincerely appreciate your help in this matter!

   Thanks
Mike








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You would also get it if AAA was configured with the Router Local User
Database.

I.E.

  aaa authentication/authorization/accounting default local

 (pardon the syntax if it's not exaxt... just going from memory, and I'm
still learning to use this feature. :) )

 user xxx pass xxx

then on

  VTY 0 4
login auth default

-Mark

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The only time I have seen this information present is on a router whose
access is restricted by AAA via RADIUS or TACACS+...  Other than that,
how would the router magically "know" who was logged in and making changes?

Mike W.

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> Hello everybody,
>
>   I have one question for you. We have several routers that shows
> who and when made last changes in the configuration and who/when saved
that
> changes in NVRAM.
>
>   For example:
>
> Router#  show run
>
>  ...
>  ...
>
>  Current configuration : 2352 bytes
>  !
>  ! Last configuration change at 11:45:15 UTC Tue
> Apr 9 by XXX
>  ! NVRAM config last updated at 12:23:50 UTC Thu
> Apr 4 2002 by XXX
>  !
>
>  ...
>  ...
>
>   How can I activate this messages in other routers?? We have
other
> routers with the same IOS, almost the same configuration and they don't
> show these messages! I am very interested in this
>
>   Thanks a lot!
>
>   Mike.




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PIX VPN Connection to Linksys Router [7:41821]

2002-04-18 Thread Craig Columbus

Here's the deal:
I've got a PIX that serves as a security gateway for a Cisco VPN Client 
3.1.  Settings are basically DES/MD5/ESP with pre-shared key.  Part of the 
VPN3.1 client requires vpngroup name, as defined in the configuration on 
the PIX.
I just bought one of the Linksys BEFVP41 VPN routers to test connectivity 
to the PIX.  The Linksys doesn't understand vpngroup associations, so I 
need to configure the PIX to also allow the connection based solely on 
pre-shared key.
I think I've got it configured properly, and VPN Client-to-PIX connections 
work fine, but negotiations break down at phase 2 when connecting with the 
Linksys.  It's probably something simple that I'm missing because I've been 
staring at it too long.  Anyone have any ideas?

PIX relevant config (sanitized):

access-list bypassingnat permit ip 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 192.168.100.0 
255.255.255.0
ip local pool mypool 192.168.100.1-192.168.100.254
nat (inside) 0 access-list bypassingnat
sysopt connection permit-ipsec
no sysopt route dnat
crypto ipsec transform-set strong esp-des esp-md5-hmac
crypto dynamic-map users 11 set transform-set strong
crypto map remote 11 ipsec-isakmp dynamic users
crypto map remote client configuration address initiate
crypto map remote client configuration address respond
crypto map remote interface outside
isakmp enable outside
isakmp key  address 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0
isakmp identity address
isakmp client configuration address-pool local mypool outside
isakmp policy 10 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 10 encryption des
isakmp policy 10 hash md5
isakmp policy 10 group 1
isakmp policy 10 lifetime 86400
isakmp policy 20 authentication pre-share
isakmp policy 20 encryption des
isakmp policy 20 hash md5
isakmp policy 20 group 2
isakmp policy 20 lifetime 86400
vpngroup vpn3000 address-pool mypool
vpngroup vpn3000 dns-server 10.x.x.x
vpngroup vpn3000 default-domain 
vpngroup vpn3000 idle-time 1800
vpngroup vpn3000 password 

Debug from PIX (sanitizedy.y.69.129 is the Linksys, x.x.67.2 is the 
public interface of the PIX):

crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2
OAK_MM exchange
ISAKMP (0): processing SA payload. message ID = 0

ISAKMP (0): Checking ISAKMP transform 1 against priority 10 policy
ISAKMP:  encryption DES-CBC
ISAKMP:  hash SHA
ISAKMP:  auth pre-share
ISAKMP:  default group 1
ISAKMP:  life type in seconds
ISAKMP:  life duration (VPI) of  0x0 0x1 0x51 0x80
ISAKMP (0): atts are not acceptable. Next payload is 3
ISAKMP (0): Checking ISAKMP transform 2 against priority 10 policy
ISAKMP:  encryption DES-CBC
ISAKMP:  hash MD5
ISAKMP:  auth pre-share
ISAKMP:  default group 1
ISAKMP:  life type in seconds
ISAKMP:  life duration (VPI) of  0x0 0x1 0x51 0x80
ISAKMP (0): atts are acceptable. Next payload is 3
ISAKMP (0): SA is doing pre-shared key authentication using id type 
ID_IPV4_ADDR
return status is IKMP_NO_ERROR
crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2
OAK_MM exchange
ISAKMP (0): processing KE payload. message ID = 0

ISAKMP (0): processing NONCE payload. message ID = 0

return status is IKMP_NO_ERROR
crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2
OAK_MM exchange
ISAKMP (0): processing ID payload. message ID = 0
ISAKMP (0): processing HASH payload. message ID = 0
ISAKMP (0): SA has been authenticated

ISAKMP (0): ID payload
 next-payload : 8
 type : 1
 protocol : 17
 port : 500
 length   : 8
ISAKMP (0): Total payload length: 12
return status is IKMP_NO_ERROR
crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2
OAK_QM exchange
ISAKMP (0:0): Need config/address
ISAKMP (0:0): initiating peer config to y.y.69.129. ID = 3267015605
(0xc2bab3b
5)
return status is IKMP_NO_ERROR
crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2
ISAKMP (0): retransmitting phase 2...
crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2
ISAKMP (0): retransmitting phase 2...
crypto_isakmp_process_block: src y.y.69.129, dest x.x.67.2

Finally it just times out trying to retransmit phase 2.

Thanks in advance!

Craig




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Re: NLI CD-Rom [7:41651]

2002-04-18 Thread Marc Russell

Give us  a call. 248-299-8114

Marc Russell
NLI




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> My CD-Rom in the NLI's CCIE R&S Written Exam book is missing.  Is there
> anyone on the list could create an image and send it to me.  I still have
my
> own user and pass im just missing the cd.  If you could help me out then
> messege me personally.
>
> -Thanks-
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TEST [7:41824]

2002-04-18 Thread Gibson, Darrin

Is the group working?

-Original Message-
From: bergenpeak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is cable network really a shared medium? [7:38705]


Hi Sam,

The shared vs non-shared issue DSL providers mention is somewhat
misleading.   In any residential cable or DSL network, you will
have stat muxing.   In a cable network, this happens on the HFC
network.  In a DSL network, this happens at the Agg router (the
one that terminates all of those DSL connections).   The Internet
is one big stat mux.  In either the DSL or Cable approach, the 
customer observed performance will be a result of many factors,
including access network design (how many subs share the cable
or agg router), the behaviors of these other users, the regional
network design, the size and types of peering connections, and
where the users are actually surfing too.  

My house has a long driveway that only I use.  Does that mean
I'll get to work faster than the neighbors down the street
which live in an apartment complex and share a driveway with
other folks?

In both approaches, one can prioritize traffic or partition bandwidth
to certain groups of users.

The current standard for how IP/ethernet frames are transmitted over
an HFC network is defined via the DOCSIS 1.0 spec.  This specification
is available at www.cablelabs.com.   This spec defines how to
support best-effort IP transport.

Support for additional features, include QoS, is defined in the
DOCSIS 1.1 spec.  This document is also available at the above
web site.


Some details about DOCSIS cable networks:

* On the HFC network, a single downstream channel can support
  ~25-35 Mb/s (depending on the modulation being used).

*  The upstream connection typically can support between 5-10 Mb/s
  (depending on modulation and the size of the channel).  

* The cable operator can opt, based on RF combining, how many homes
  (fiber nodes) share a downstream or upstream.When service is
initially
  launched in an area, an operator might combine several nodes together
  and as the take rate increases, reduce the amount of combining
  (which effectovely reduces the number of customers who share the
   bandwidth).

* When a cable modem is brought online, it gets an IP address via
  DHCP and then is loaded with configuration information (IP, L2,
  and L4 filters), network management, etc information.   These
  filters prevent issues which arise when  DHCP servers are
  running in a customer's home, prevents my NETBIOS traffic from being
  seen by neighbors, etc.  

There are other technologies still deployed by cable operators to
support
HSD (LanCity, Motorola CDLP, Com21, etc.) which may not operate the same
as DOCSIS.  

Hope this helps.
  


sam sneed wrote:
> 
> I just changed services from DSL to cable modem. I have heard from people,
> including verizon, that cable is not as secure as DSL becuase it is over a
> shared medium. I connected to my cable modem and fired up my packet
sniffer.
> I did not see anyone elses traffic on the line so i am assuming the
bandwith
> is shared( a known fact about cable access) but is somehow filtered at the
> cable modem(bridge). Does anyone know if this assumption is true and the
> inside details of the how data is transmitted over the cable network? A
link
> to a whitepaer would be great.
> 
> thanks




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Re: Was Re: longest match vs. other metrics [7:41692]

2002-04-18 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Related question to the above thread. 
>
>As discussed, each routing protocol will maintain its list of prefixes
>that it knows about.  A route selection process runs that considers the
>routes from each routing process and puts the "best" into the routing
>table.  (best being defined by the route selection process).
>
>"show ip route" will show those routes selected and in the routing
>table.
>
>Is there an equivalent command that will show me the same information
>(prefix/length, next hop/interface) for all the prefixs known by a
>routing protocol?   Suppose I'm running OSPF and BGP on a box and I
>wanted to see what prefix/lengths are being carried in each routing
>protocol.  What commands would I use to see this?
>
>Thanks

Well, they don't precisely create routing tables, but show ip ospf 
database and show ip bgp will come close.




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RE: TEST [7:41824]

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Smith

Heck no, if we where we would not be checking e-mail.

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Is the group working?

-Original Message-
From: bergenpeak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 8:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is cable network really a shared medium? [7:38705]


Hi Sam,

The shared vs non-shared issue DSL providers mention is somewhat
misleading.   In any residential cable or DSL network, you will
have stat muxing.   In a cable network, this happens on the HFC
network.  In a DSL network, this happens at the Agg router (the
one that terminates all of those DSL connections).   The Internet
is one big stat mux.  In either the DSL or Cable approach, the 
customer observed performance will be a result of many factors,
including access network design (how many subs share the cable
or agg router), the behaviors of these other users, the regional
network design, the size and types of peering connections, and
where the users are actually surfing too.  

My house has a long driveway that only I use.  Does that mean
I'll get to work faster than the neighbors down the street
which live in an apartment complex and share a driveway with
other folks?

In both approaches, one can prioritize traffic or partition bandwidth
to certain groups of users.

The current standard for how IP/ethernet frames are transmitted over
an HFC network is defined via the DOCSIS 1.0 spec.  This specification
is available at www.cablelabs.com.   This spec defines how to
support best-effort IP transport.

Support for additional features, include QoS, is defined in the
DOCSIS 1.1 spec.  This document is also available at the above
web site.


Some details about DOCSIS cable networks:

* On the HFC network, a single downstream channel can support
  ~25-35 Mb/s (depending on the modulation being used).

*  The upstream connection typically can support between 5-10 Mb/s
  (depending on modulation and the size of the channel).  

* The cable operator can opt, based on RF combining, how many homes
  (fiber nodes) share a downstream or upstream.When service is
initially
  launched in an area, an operator might combine several nodes together
  and as the take rate increases, reduce the amount of combining
  (which effectovely reduces the number of customers who share the
   bandwidth).

* When a cable modem is brought online, it gets an IP address via
  DHCP and then is loaded with configuration information (IP, L2,
  and L4 filters), network management, etc information.   These
  filters prevent issues which arise when  DHCP servers are
  running in a customer's home, prevents my NETBIOS traffic from being
  seen by neighbors, etc.  

There are other technologies still deployed by cable operators to
support
HSD (LanCity, Motorola CDLP, Com21, etc.) which may not operate the same
as DOCSIS.  

Hope this helps.
  


sam sneed wrote:
> 
> I just changed services from DSL to cable modem. I have heard from
people,
> including verizon, that cable is not as secure as DSL becuase it is
over a
> shared medium. I connected to my cable modem and fired up my packet
sniffer.
> I did not see anyone elses traffic on the line so i am assuming the
bandwith
> is shared( a known fact about cable access) but is somehow filtered at
the
> cable modem(bridge). Does anyone know if this assumption is true and
the
> inside details of the how data is transmitted over the cable network?
A
link
> to a whitepaer would be great.
> 
> thanks




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Re: CCIE R&S Beta [7:41793]

2002-04-18 Thread Debbie Westall

What's happens if you already have the written
scheduled (350-001)? Do you take the beta or the
"regular" written?

Thanks

Debbie Westall

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CCIE Written Beta [7:41827]

2002-04-18 Thread Bernard Omrani

I took the CCIE written beta exam on Tuesday.
150 questions in 180 minutes.

I can't think of any area in networking that was not covered in this
exam, including VoIP, MPLS, Security, 6500 Switch (MSFC), IPX, (several
FDDI questions, believe it or not), X.25, Frame Relay (CAR, TS,
Queuing), ATM (AALx in detail), Ethernet, TCP/IP, (OSPF + IS-IS + EIGRP
+ BGP in detail), Multicasting (extensively)

Detailed OSPF means knowing all LSA types inside out. You must be able
to analyze OSPF database line-by-line and know where and what every
parameter is. Detailed BGP means, not only knowing its fundamentals, but
also some advanced commands that are even hardly used in the CCIE lab.
Commands like "bgp deterministic med" (NDA: not exact same command).
There were at least 5 questions on IS-IS.

IMHO, the questions were tough, excellent, real-world, and very
challenging. There were very few ambiguous questions. Out of 150
questions, about half of them came with diagrams or router
configurations, or show outputs. 

Most of the pitfalls and tricks that one faces in the CCIE lab are
covered in this exam. I dare to say that each question is a small
scenario/lab by itself. Keeping the ISDN line quiet, controlling the
PVCs in Frame Relay, redistribution between routing protocols (subnets
in OSPF, no auto-sum and metrics in EIGRP, default-information originate
BGP, passive interfaces, loops, recursive tunnels.)

I have always advised my students to go for CID exam before attempting
the CCIE written. CID would give the student almost 80% of the knowledge
needed to pass the CCIE written. That rule does not apply to this new
written exam. The closest exam that I can point out is: the CCIE lab.

A word of advice to those who have already passed the written: Do not
let it expire! 
A word of advice to those who are planning to take the exam: Take it
before the new format is introduced!


Bernard Omrani
Author of Boson 
CCIE written 
Practice Tests #1 & #2




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OT: Linksys vs. Cisco [7:41829]

2002-04-18 Thread Rico Ortiz

I always thought of Linksys as "Toy" Home  (SOHO) solutions. Lately I have
been seeing post of people using Linksys' VPN solution. What is the
different between
Linksys VPN Solution (BEFVP41) and Cisco's 1751 VPN router. I am working on
a project and if Cost is the only difference I will go with the cheaper
solution.

Now I am not talking about connecting up major sites with thousands of
users, what we are talking about is a corprate setup with 7-15 Servers and
approx. 100 users accessing
the network (not all at the same time).

Is the different price, packets per second (PPS), or are we just comfortable
with the vendor (CISCO)... Just would like to see what other people think of
these routers.



Rico Ortiz




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RE: CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]

2002-04-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

Rather than a OS issue maybe there is a config issue?
Try a "show port channel 1" to see the Sup config
You might want to "set port channel 1/1-2 off"

> -Original Message-
> From: John McCartney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have a CAT5K (16M-DRAM/8Mb-flash)that I tried to upgrade 
> the software to
> 4.5(6a) and I keep gettin gthe error "PAGP-3-CONGPORTCHLFAIL" 
> everytime I
> connect up to the supervisor II 10/100 ports. I looked up the 
> error msg and
> it says to reset the module and it should clear up, but it 
> doesn't. How can
> I remove the image from flash? Any help is appreciated.




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Re: OT: Linksys vs. Cisco [7:41829]

2002-04-18 Thread Craig Columbus

Having now played with the Linksys unit, I can only conclude that it's 
functionality is very limited and the unit will only work in the most basic 
of setups.  For a site with 7-15 servers and 100 clients, I would NEVER 
consider the Linksys.  If your sites are more than 5 users, the cost of the 
Cisco is justified...it's a vastly superior product.

Craig

At 12:01 PM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>I always thought of Linksys as "Toy" Home  (SOHO) solutions. Lately I have
>been seeing post of people using Linksys' VPN solution. What is the
>different between
>Linksys VPN Solution (BEFVP41) and Cisco's 1751 VPN router. I am working on
>a project and if Cost is the only difference I will go with the cheaper
>solution.
>
>Now I am not talking about connecting up major sites with thousands of
>users, what we are talking about is a corprate setup with 7-15 Servers and
>approx. 100 users accessing
>the network (not all at the same time).
>
>Is the different price, packets per second (PPS), or are we just comfortable
>with the vendor (CISCO)... Just would like to see what other people think of
>these routers.
>
>
>
>Rico Ortiz




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How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Kelly Cobean

All,
   I was wondering if any of you have a good link to a site that explains
how the bandwidth is derived for T-1/T-3 circuits.  What I'm looking for
specifically is how we come to 1.544 Mb/s for a T-1 that is 24x64K channels
which = 1536K, and what happens to the other 8K, and the same calculation
for a T-3.  Descriptions of Robbed-bit signaling, etc., too.  Thanks much
for your help.

Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company




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CCNP recertification [7:41834]

2002-04-18 Thread Beamish, Richard

I have a friend who needs to recertify his CCNP.  Has anyone suggestions
or recommendations for study material vs. the old CCNP 1.0 track

Thanks




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RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Sean Knox

Sure, there are plenty of companies that would hire a CCIE, but you have to
remember, a CCIE has is supposed to have years of experience in large,
complex routing and switching setups. A "real" CCIE, or should I say, a CCIE
with plenty of experience (i.e., the exact demographic the cert is supposed
to appeal to), will have no problem finding work or consulting. Pay varies,
but work is out there for senior positions, even here in southern california
(as I pleasantly discovered).

The point to take home that has been emphasized many times is the dot.bomb
days are over, and you can't secure a 6 figure salary on basis of a CCIE
alone. I believe someone in the group said earlier, "you'll get laughed out
of a technical interview if you are a CCIE with only couple years of IT
experience (or less)." I would agree for the most part.

I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I am
content with that for now and and getting more experience (fortunately I am
not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this awhile).
Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.

Sean

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I was considering both options I have a MIS degree from The Ohio
State University. After getting my CCNP and working for a large ISP and
seeing a co-worker pass the lab and get nothing but a pat on the back from
our company; I made the decision to enroll in an MBA program this fall.
After carefully reviewing my options, I did not want to put myself in such a
nich market. I think you need to ask yourself where can you go with a CCIE?
ISP, Consult, work for yourself. I know there are other companies that would
hire a CCIE but you probably would not be utalized to your full potential.
Also, a MBA does not expire and if you ever want to be a CTO or CIO most
likely you are going to need the education. I have debated this same topic
with my friends and co-workers and there is no easy answer. I think it is
personal preference but I will say a few things about the CCIE, salaries are
coming down due to the fact that there are more CCIE's(some are not the
experts they should be). The only reason I say this is once you get your
CCIE you should be an expert hence Internetworking Expert. I know people may
disagree with some of these statements, but I have seen some CCIE candidates
that have issues with basic skills.

Daniel Ladrach
CCNA, CCNP
WorldCom


> -Original Message-
> From: Antonio Montana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 5:07 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: OT: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't
> decide wether
> to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.
>
> I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's
> getting harder to
> find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
> Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
> The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing
> jobs like System
> or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at
> all. It's just
> like creating some user logins, assigning and administering
> IP addresses and
> do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.
>
> Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
> But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so.
>
> I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I
> really think
> about going to school and getting a management education.
> Jobs for MBA's are still there.
>
> Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's
> the recognition
> they earn ?!?
>
> So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the
> "dark side" ??
>
> What do you think guys ??
>
> cheers
> tony




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Re: Linksys vs. Cisco [7:41829]

2002-04-18 Thread Magichut

Forgive my ignorance, but isn't the linksys a nat vpn router?  Also if you
do a search on google, you will find various postings of the linksys not
"playing" well with other vpn's.  If price is a concern, then remember these
fine words: you get what you pay for.
Go with Cisco, the name is not all your paying for.  Incredible Tech
Support, Great news groups, and only cool people use Cisco. :0)

Magichut

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> I always thought of Linksys as "Toy" Home  (SOHO) solutions. Lately I have
> been seeing post of people using Linksys' VPN solution. What is the
> different between
> Linksys VPN Solution (BEFVP41) and Cisco's 1751 VPN router. I am working
on
> a project and if Cost is the only difference I will go with the cheaper
> solution.
>
> Now I am not talking about connecting up major sites with thousands of
> users, what we are talking about is a corprate setup with 7-15 Servers and
> approx. 100 users accessing
> the network (not all at the same time).
>
> Is the different price, packets per second (PPS), or are we just
comfortable
> with the vendor (CISCO)... Just would like to see what other people think
of
> these routers.
>
>
>
> Rico Ortiz




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Re: CCIE R&S Beta [7:41793]

2002-04-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:08 PM 4/17/02, Patrick Bass wrote:
>Steve,
>
>It may be that you waste 3 hours and $50 bucks.

Also, you're using an untested product, which could be frustrating. You 
will be exposed to bad questions that will later be eliminated. Cisco goes 
through the test results after the beta closes and looks for questions that 
nobody got right, questions that the people who generally did well missed 
but the people who did poorly got right, etc. They also (theoretically) 
look at the comments in case some helpful person pointed out bad questions 
or typos. Then they eliminate the bad questions. (Well, we know for a fact 
that with the CCNP and CCDP tests they kept a lot of bad ones ;-), but 
hopefully the CCIE group does a better job.)

Anyway, the process could discourage you. But if you keep in mind that you 
are using a beta product and stay patient, the only other downsides are the 
time and money, as Patrick said. But the money is less than normal, so if 
you have the time, go for it.

Priscilla



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>
>""Steve Watson""  wrote in message
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> > I had planned on taking this test before years end. Now that they are
> > offering the BETA I figure it's a good time to take it at a good price.
> > I really don't think I am ready but who knows (haven't failed a cert
> > test yet, fingers crossed, knocking on wood, rubbing the red headed
> > boy!!)
> >
> >
> >
> > What I would like to ask is, does anyone know of ANY drawbacks to taking
> > the test (knowing that you will probably fail)?
> >
> >
> >
> >  I just want to get exposed to the new test with a good possibility of
> > passing.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for any input.
> >
> >
> >
> > Steve


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native vlan [7:41837]

2002-04-18 Thread Lopez, Robert

Group,

What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native vlan"
when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting up
a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both switches as
the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
response. :)   TIA.

Robert




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Kinda OT:Refurb eq. question [7:41838]

2002-04-18 Thread Roberts, Larry

Ok,
Several phone calls and hours searching on Cisco's web site has not revealed
the answer so I hope someone on this list can.
My company is about to purchase 2 6509's from a company that went out of
business. I have been instructed to place them under
A smartnet as they are going to be put into production.
My question is what do I need to do to get this eq. certified and covered?
Can I just buy the software license and the smartnet, or is there some
Other process?
I know I can not be the only person who has done this, but every person at
Cisco that I talked to was less than helpful due to the part that this cuts
into Cisco's profit. 

Any help or links would be appreciated!

Thanks

Larry




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Re: Help! Confreg setting put to 0x1102 on 1700 [7:41819]

2002-04-18 Thread Mike Mandulak

Set the baud rate to 4800.

- Original Message -
From: "Richard Dennard" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 9:30 AM
Subject: Help! Confreg setting put to 0x1102 on 1700 [7:41819]


> Help please...I set the confreg incorrectly on 1700 and now can't get it
> back up with hyperterm.  Does anyone know what term settings for this
> confreg (0x1102) should look like. Or any other way to get the router
> back to default setting of 0x2102.  Thanks for your help.
>
> Richard Dennard
> Tele 321-383-0705 ext 246
> Cell 321-403-6881




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RE: CCIE R&S Beta [7:41793]

2002-04-18 Thread Kim Edward B

What happens if you already passed the written and just want to see how the
test is like?  
If you fail, do you lose your credit from the prior exam?
If you pass, does it extend the life of the written exam credit?

Ed

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What's happens if you already have the written
scheduled (350-001)? Do you take the beta or the
"regular" written?

Thanks

Debbie Westall

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> the other stuff, im
> just going to accelrate my study for the current
> written
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RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Smith

You can credit Scott Morris for this explanation:

Let's go way back to voice sampling days (where our DS0s
and T-1 originate) and look at the bandwidth of each voice
line. The human voice occupies 3,200 Hz of sound waves. We
cover some area on the outside of this and round it up to a
4,000 Hz range.

The Nyquist Theorem tells us that to adequately sample and
represent any signal, we should sample at twice the
frequency rate. That means if the sound waves cycle through
4,000 cycles per second (Hz), then we should sample at
twice that, or 8,000 times per second.

In addition, each sample is represented on an 8-bit scale.
So we have eight bits of information in each of 8,000 times
per second. That's where we come up with 64,000 bits per
second for a voice channel (64k per DS0). Now, looking at a
T-1, we have 24 individual channels (or DS0s). Doing more
math, 64,000 times 24 is 1,536,000 or 1,536k as your Cisco
7000 allows.

So where does your other router come up with that extra
8,000 bits? Magic?

No, that boils down to framing and some interpretation.

On a T-1, a frame consists of the information from each of
the 24 channels. So each frame (8,000 per second)
represents 24 times 8 bits, or 192 bits of information. In
addition, there's one synchronization bit in each frame.
This gives us 193 bits per frame. While the synchronization
bit moves across the line, it doesn't contain usable data.

But, when looking at the raw numbers here... 193 bits (each
frame) times 8,000 frames per second yields 1,544,000 bits
per second. Usable information, however is 24 channels
times 8 bits times 8,000 frames per second... Or 1,536,000
bits per second.


-Original Message-
From: Kelly Cobean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How do you get that? [7:41832]


All,
   I was wondering if any of you have a good link to a site that
explains
how the bandwidth is derived for T-1/T-3 circuits.  What I'm looking for
specifically is how we come to 1.544 Mb/s for a T-1 that is 24x64K
channels
which = 1536K, and what happens to the other 8K, and the same
calculation
for a T-3.  Descriptions of Robbed-bit signaling, etc., too.  Thanks
much
for your help.

Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company




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RE: native vlan [7:41837]

2002-04-18 Thread Jeffrey Reed

One of the things related to native VLAN was VTP updates. I think they go
over the "native" VLAN, so you'll need to make sure its the same for all the
switches in the same VTP domain.

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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Lopez, Robert
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: native vlan [7:41837]

Group,

What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native vlan"
when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting up
a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both switches as
the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
response. :)   TIA.

Robert




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RE: Kinda OT:Refurb eq. question [7:41838]

2002-04-18 Thread Jeffrey Reed

I posed this question to a Cisco account rep. He said you must purchase the
IOS and it will cost close to the same as a normal discount on the whole
system. You hit it right when you said about the profit line. The account
reps get nothing when you purchase used equipment. You may be better off
getting a new chassis and then buying all the guts for cheap. This way you
can cover yourself on the SmartNet. I'm not sure there is an easy AND legal
way around it.

Jeffrey Reed
Classic Networking, Inc.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Roberts, Larry
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kinda OT:Refurb eq. question [7:41838]

Ok,
Several phone calls and hours searching on Cisco's web site has not revealed
the answer so I hope someone on this list can.
My company is about to purchase 2 6509's from a company that went out of
business. I have been instructed to place them under
A smartnet as they are going to be put into production.
My question is what do I need to do to get this eq. certified and covered?
Can I just buy the software license and the smartnet, or is there some
Other process?
I know I can not be the only person who has done this, but every person at
Cisco that I talked to was less than helpful due to the part that this cuts
into Cisco's profit.

Any help or links would be appreciated!

Thanks

Larry




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Len Lee/CHI/NTRS is out of the office. [7:41843]

2002-04-18 Thread Len Lee

I will be out of the office starting  April 18, 2002 and will not return
until April 19, 2002.

I will respond to your message when I return.




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RE: Kinda OT:Refurb eq. question [7:41838]

2002-04-18 Thread Steve Smith

All the going out of business hardware we have bought or auction
equipment we have, we just called our local VAR like SARCOM and
purchased a SNTP and the equipment was covered. The software "cd" came
with it.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Roberts, Larry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kinda OT:Refurb eq. question [7:41838]


Ok,
Several phone calls and hours searching on Cisco's web site has not
revealed
the answer so I hope someone on this list can.
My company is about to purchase 2 6509's from a company that went out of
business. I have been instructed to place them under
A smartnet as they are going to be put into production.
My question is what do I need to do to get this eq. certified and
covered?
Can I just buy the software license and the smartnet, or is there some
Other process?
I know I can not be the only person who has done this, but every person
at
Cisco that I talked to was less than helpful due to the part that this
cuts
into Cisco's profit. 

Any help or links would be appreciated!

Thanks

Larry




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RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Kelly Cobean

Steve,
 You are the man!  Thanks.  Is the computation for a T-3 the same?

Thanks!

Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company 

-Original Message-
From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:31 PM
To: Kelly Cobean; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]


You can credit Scott Morris for this explanation:

Let's go way back to voice sampling days (where our DS0s
and T-1 originate) and look at the bandwidth of each voice
line. The human voice occupies 3,200 Hz of sound waves. We
cover some area on the outside of this and round it up to a
4,000 Hz range.

The Nyquist Theorem tells us that to adequately sample and
represent any signal, we should sample at twice the
frequency rate. That means if the sound waves cycle through
4,000 cycles per second (Hz), then we should sample at
twice that, or 8,000 times per second.

In addition, each sample is represented on an 8-bit scale.
So we have eight bits of information in each of 8,000 times
per second. That's where we come up with 64,000 bits per
second for a voice channel (64k per DS0). Now, looking at a
T-1, we have 24 individual channels (or DS0s). Doing more
math, 64,000 times 24 is 1,536,000 or 1,536k as your Cisco
7000 allows.

So where does your other router come up with that extra
8,000 bits? Magic?

No, that boils down to framing and some interpretation.

On a T-1, a frame consists of the information from each of
the 24 channels. So each frame (8,000 per second)
represents 24 times 8 bits, or 192 bits of information. In
addition, there's one synchronization bit in each frame.
This gives us 193 bits per frame. While the synchronization
bit moves across the line, it doesn't contain usable data.

But, when looking at the raw numbers here... 193 bits (each
frame) times 8,000 frames per second yields 1,544,000 bits
per second. Usable information, however is 24 channels
times 8 bits times 8,000 frames per second... Or 1,536,000
bits per second.


-Original Message-
From: Kelly Cobean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How do you get that? [7:41832]


All,
   I was wondering if any of you have a good link to a site that
explains
how the bandwidth is derived for T-1/T-3 circuits.  What I'm looking for
specifically is how we come to 1.544 Mb/s for a T-1 that is 24x64K
channels
which = 1536K, and what happens to the other 8K, and the same
calculation
for a T-3.  Descriptions of Robbed-bit signaling, etc., too.  Thanks
much
for your help.

Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company




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RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Rico Ortiz

Good question, curious of the answer myself. I opened up some telcom books I
have on the shelf and the give 8k to "overhead"
but what overhead? is this signalling, framing?

Rico

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Kelly Cobean
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How do you get that? [7:41832]


All,
   I was wondering if any of you have a good link to a site that explains
how the bandwidth is derived for T-1/T-3 circuits.  What I'm looking for
specifically is how we come to 1.544 Mb/s for a T-1 that is 24x64K channels
which = 1536K, and what happens to the other 8K, and the same calculation
for a T-3.  Descriptions of Robbed-bit signaling, etc., too.  Thanks much
for your help.

Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company




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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Drew

Sean Knox wrote:
> 
> 
> I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I am
> content with that for now and and getting more experience (fortunately I am
> not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this awhile).
> Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.
> 

I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had 
planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work
enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with 
routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert, even
if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting
classes in June.  

I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than
an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.




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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf

inline



""John Johnson""  wrote in message
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> I'd try the MBA or better yet a MS in CS.  Then if market conditions
change
> you can always stop the MS route and get the CCIE.  If they don't, then
you
> can get the CCIE afterwards.  It's a better road with fewer bumps than
going
> down a single path.  Also, you'll want to consider getting the MBA after
you
> get the MS.  It appears to me that the big networking jobs like we saw in
> the mid to late nineties have all been built and unless you were in the
> right place at the right time a good job like we saw has disappeared until
> there is a paradigm shift in the market place.
>
> It seems to get the dream jobs right now the more education you have the
> better off you are.  Especially if you have a Masters degree in Math from
a
> big name school.  In the States that would be from MIT, Cal-Tech, or say
> Harvard to name a few brand names.

Be careful with that.  In the States, master's degrees in sciences and
mathematics are generally not held in very high-esteem, or at least not as
high in esteem as you might think (master's degrees in business,
engineering, or in the the liberal arts are a different story).   I don't
know about Europe, but at least in the US, a master's degree in mathematics
(or any science) has the  negative connotation of being a PhD-failure - the
guy entered a PhD program but couldn't cut it, so the school bestowed upon
him a master's degree as a consolation prize.   In fact, most of the
biggest-name math schools in the United States do not even offer a
terminal-master's degree program.  According to USNews and World Report, the
top 5 graduate math programs in the US in alphabetical order are Berkeley,
Harvard, MIT, Princeton, and Stanford (Caltech is actually not considered a
top5 program).   The only one of those  schools that may offer a terminal
master's degree in mathematics is Stanford, and I'm not even entirely sure
they really do.   I know Berkeley doesn't offer a terminal math degree, nor
does Princeton, Caltech MIT, or Harvard (Harvard does offer a terminal
master's in Applied Mathematics, but runs it under its engineering
department - yes, Harvard actually has an engineering department).  Instead,
these schools grant master's degrees to PhD candidates who couldn't pass
their quals.   So in some cases, that master's degree could serve more as a
hindrance than a help.   For example, saying that you have a master's degree
in math from Berkeley might impress some lay people, but every once in
awhile, you'll run into some people who know what's up, and may start
thinking you're a washout.


So the point is, in the US anyway, if you want to pursue graduate study in
mathematics, you should probably go all the way and get your PhD.
Otherwise, don't do it at all.  Get your MBA or something like that.


>
> Good Luck.
>
>
> ""Antonio Montana""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't decide
> wether
> > to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.
> >
> > I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's getting harder
> to
> > find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
> > Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
> > The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing jobs like
> System
> > or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at all. It's
just
> > like creating some user logins, assigning and administering IP addresses
> and
> > do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.
> >
> > Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
> > But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so.
> >
> > I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I really think
> > about going to school and getting a management education.
> > Jobs for MBA's are still there.
> >
> > Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's the
recognition
> > they earn ?!?
> >
> > So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the "dark side" ??
> >
> > What do you think guys ??
> >
> > cheers
> > tony




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RE: CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]

2002-04-18 Thread John McCartney

"You might want to "set port channel 1/1-2 off""
 I already tried that, I even did a dis-able and that stopped the errors all
together. Thanks for the help though.


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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf

""Drew""  wrote in message
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> Sean Knox wrote:
> >
> >
> > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I am
> > content with that for now and and getting more experience (fortunately I
am
> > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
awhile).
> > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.
> >
>
> I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had
> planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work
> enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with
> routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert, even
> if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting
> classes in June.
>
> I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than
> an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.

Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes might be
cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50?  Probably
not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering other
young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion to that chair
without an advanced education.




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RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Michael Williams

"All you wanted to know about T1 but were afriad to ask"

padding
padding
padding

http://www.dcbnet.com/notes/9611t1.html

HTH,
Mike W.


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Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Pace

How can you tell a switch or router to treat untagged frames as any other
VLAN other thatn VLAN1 which is the default? Is it a VTP command on the
switch? How about routers ? How about 2924 siwtches?

Anthony Pace
""Jeffrey Reed""  wrote in message
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> One of the things related to native VLAN was VTP updates. I think they go
> over the "native" VLAN, so you'll need to make sure its the same for all
the
> switches in the same VTP domain.
>
> Jeffrey Reed
> Classic Networking, Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Lopez, Robert
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: native vlan [7:41837]
>
> Group,
>
> What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native
vlan"
> when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting
up
> a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both switches
as
> the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
> response. :)   TIA.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> Robert M. Lopez
> Network Engineering
> CIT - Ann Arbor
> Pfizer Global Research & Development
> Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690
>
> "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."  ...Albert
> Einstein




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RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Logan, Harold

Steve,

You and Scott are now my favoritest people in the whole wide world. I've
understood the concept, but I couldn't ask for a more clear and concise
explanation.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: How do you get that? [7:41832]


You can credit Scott Morris for this explanation:

Let's go way back to voice sampling days (where our DS0s
and T-1 originate) and look at the bandwidth of each voice
line. The human voice occupies 3,200 Hz of sound waves. We
cover some area on the outside of this and round it up to a
4,000 Hz range.

The Nyquist Theorem tells us that to adequately sample and
represent any signal, we should sample at twice the
frequency rate. That means if the sound waves cycle through
4,000 cycles per second (Hz), then we should sample at
twice that, or 8,000 times per second.

In addition, each sample is represented on an 8-bit scale.
So we have eight bits of information in each of 8,000 times
per second. That's where we come up with 64,000 bits per
second for a voice channel (64k per DS0). Now, looking at a
T-1, we have 24 individual channels (or DS0s). Doing more
math, 64,000 times 24 is 1,536,000 or 1,536k as your Cisco
7000 allows.

So where does your other router come up with that extra
8,000 bits? Magic?

No, that boils down to framing and some interpretation.

On a T-1, a frame consists of the information from each of
the 24 channels. So each frame (8,000 per second)
represents 24 times 8 bits, or 192 bits of information. In
addition, there's one synchronization bit in each frame.
This gives us 193 bits per frame. While the synchronization
bit moves across the line, it doesn't contain usable data.

But, when looking at the raw numbers here... 193 bits (each
frame) times 8,000 frames per second yields 1,544,000 bits
per second. Usable information, however is 24 channels
times 8 bits times 8,000 frames per second... Or 1,536,000
bits per second.


-Original Message-
From: Kelly Cobean [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: How do you get that? [7:41832]


All,
   I was wondering if any of you have a good link to a site that
explains
how the bandwidth is derived for T-1/T-3 circuits.  What I'm looking for
specifically is how we come to 1.544 Mb/s for a T-1 that is 24x64K
channels
which = 1536K, and what happens to the other 8K, and the same
calculation
for a T-3.  Descriptions of Robbed-bit signaling, etc., too.  Thanks
much
for your help.

Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
Network Engineer
GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company




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Re: PPP MULTILINK LOAD THRIESHOLD [7:41783]

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Pace

ok . That makes sense. It seems PPP MULTILINK has two flavors:

1) for bringing up another ISDN Bearer channel which uses dialer
load-threshold

2) for bundling any ohter kind of interfaces using PPP : ppp multilink
load-threshold (which would be for load balancing at a layer lower than the
packet, or for fragmentaion of large data packets)

Does that sound reasonable for the "dual" syntaxes??

Anthony Pace
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> Anthony,
> I think (?) that ppp multilink load threshold is used when you bundle 2 or
> more serial interfaces in to a multilink channel.
> Not sure, but I'll have a look
>
> HTH
> Richard




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Re: native vlan [7:41837]

2002-04-18 Thread Larry Letterman

we use native vlan 1 on our switches as well...you can use
any other vlan if you like. We tried that once and had problems
with inserting a new redundant sup card, which when installed
hot, puts its ports in vlan 1 by default and then causing vlan mismatch's
which caused stp re-calc loop issues. Currently we use native vlan 1 for vtp
management, and a seperate vlan for the data and telephony subnets.

Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "Lopez, Robert" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:09 AM
Subject: native vlan [7:41837]


> Group,
>
> What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native
vlan"
> when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting
up
> a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both switches
as
> the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
> response. :)   TIA.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> Robert M. Lopez
> Network Engineering
> CIT - Ann Arbor
> Pfizer Global Research & Development
> Phone 734-622-3948 Fax 734-622-1690
>
> "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."  ...Albert
> Einstein




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Re: access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 in route-map question [7:41860]

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Pace

I think 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 is default and 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 is "ANY"
which some IOS's will replace with the actual word "ANY"

Anthony Pace
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> Group,
>
> I have seen this "access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0" with route-map a couple of
> times and had trouble to find a definite answer.  Some place on Cisco web
> site say this is permit EVERYTHING, some place says permit NOTHING.  Can
> anyone explain this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ruihai
>
>
> router bgp 3
>  redistribute ospf 2 match internal external 1 external 2 route-map
filter1
>
> access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0
> access-list 2 permit any
> !
> route-map filter1 deny 10
>  match ip address 1
> !
> route-map filter1 permit 20
>  match ip address 2
> !




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access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 in route-map question [7:41859]

2002-04-18 Thread Ruihai An

Group,

I have seen this "access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0" with route-map a couple of
times and had trouble to find a definite answer.  Some place on Cisco web
site say this is permit EVERYTHING, some place says permit NOTHING.  Can
anyone explain this?

Thanks

Ruihai


router bgp 3
 redistribute ospf 2 match internal external 1 external 2 route-map filter1

access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0
access-list 2 permit any
!
route-map filter1 deny 10
 match ip address 1
!
route-map filter1 permit 20
 match ip address 2
!




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Re: Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]

2002-04-18 Thread Larry Letterman

To my knowledge, tagging is only applied to the data when it goes on the
trunk and/or vlan associated devices. When the packet leaves the vlan device
the tag is stripped off and the packet traverses the non-vlan network
devices
as a normal, untagged packet.

anybody else ?

Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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From: "Anthony Pace" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:49 AM
Subject: Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]


> How can you tell a switch or router to treat untagged frames as any other
> VLAN other thatn VLAN1 which is the default? Is it a VTP command on the
> switch? How about routers ? How about 2924 siwtches?
>
> Anthony Pace
> ""Jeffrey Reed""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > One of the things related to native VLAN was VTP updates. I think they
go
> > over the "native" VLAN, so you'll need to make sure its the same for all
> the
> > switches in the same VTP domain.
> >
> > Jeffrey Reed
> > Classic Networking, Inc.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Lopez, Robert
> > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: native vlan [7:41837]
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native
> vlan"
> > when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting
> up
> > a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both
switches
> as
> > the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
> > response. :)   TIA.
> >
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Robert M. Lopez
> > Network Engineering
> > CIT - Ann Arbor
> > Pfizer Global Research & Development
> > Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690
> >
> > "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is
a
> > miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."  ...Albert
> > Einstein




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IDS 4210 [7:41863]

2002-04-18 Thread Johnson, Richard (NY Int)

Hi All, 

Using the




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Port Monitoring on Catalyst 2950 [7:41861]

2002-04-18 Thread Johnson, Richard (NY Int)

Hi All, 

How do I monitor all traffic coming out of 1 of my ports. I have a
IDS 4210 with one cable to my local network and 1 going to the 2950. On the
2950 I have a cable going to another switch where all the connections are
going to the Internet. Essentially I want to monitor all that traffic on the
other switch.  I know I should be Vlanningbut this setup is so much
easier for the lower level guys to understand and deal with when I am not
around. 


Thanks, 


Rich




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FW: IDS 4210 [7:41864]

2002-04-18 Thread Johnson, Richard (NY Int)

-Original Message-
From:   Johnson, Richard (NY Int)  
Sent:   Thursday, April 18, 2002 3:32 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:IDS 4210

Hi All, 

Using the CSPM, how do I set the addresses for my IDS box. Currently
I have one set, how do I setup the other?


Thanks, 

Rich




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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Wes Stevens

A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and am 
perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my boss with 
the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you get laid off at 
45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up there 
in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a job. I 
work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this 
economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back from 
500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a job in 
Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network engineer. My boss 
and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the local 
market and less chances of them finding a place in another part of the 
company as they are cutting back everywhere.

Just some food for thought.


>From: "nrf" 
>Reply-To: "nrf" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
>
>""Drew""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Sean Knox wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I 
>am
> > > content with that for now and and getting more experience (fortunately 
>I
>am
> > > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
>awhile).
> > > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.
> > >
> >
> > I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had
> > planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work
> > enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with
> > routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert, even
> > if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting
> > classes in June.
> >
> > I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than
> > an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.
>
>Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes might 
>be
>cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50?  Probably
>not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering other
>young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion to that chair
>without an advanced education.
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Re: native vlan [7:41837]

2002-04-18 Thread MADMAN

I think the only significance is that they must match.  In 802.1q the
native VLAN has no tag so the VLANs must match on each end so the
endpoints can deduce which VLAN the tagless packets belong.

  Dave

"Lopez, Robert" wrote:
> 
> Group,
> 
> What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native vlan"
> when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting up
> a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both switches
as
> the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
> response. :)   TIA.
> 
> Robert
> 
> Robert M. Lopez
> Network Engineering
> CIT - Ann Arbor
> Pfizer Global Research & Development
> Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690
> 
> "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."  ...Albert
> Einstein
-- 
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CCIE# 2016
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Re: access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0 in route-map question [7:41867]

2002-04-18 Thread MADMAN

This is permiting 0.0.0.0 only, remember the default mask is 0.0.0.0,
exact match.
  Dave

Ruihai An wrote:
> 
> Group,
> 
> I have seen this "access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0" with route-map a couple of
> times and had trouble to find a definite answer.  Some place on Cisco web
> site say this is permit EVERYTHING, some place says permit NOTHING.  Can
> anyone explain this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Ruihai
> 
> router bgp 3
>  redistribute ospf 2 match internal external 1 external 2 route-map filter1
> 
> access-list 1 permit 0.0.0.0
> access-list 2 permit any
> !
> route-map filter1 deny 10
>  match ip address 1
> !
> route-map filter1 permit 20
>  match ip address 2
> !
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Sr. Network Engineer
CCIE# 2016
Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
612-664-3367

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Re: Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Pace

In 802.1q some devices send also send untagged frames on the trunk links and
these are considered to be associated with the "native" VLAN. The thread
below indicates anohter use of the "native" VLAN which is the VLAN used for
VTP. How can you change it form VLAN 1 on a CISCO device?

Anthony Pace

""Larry Letterman""  wrote in message
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> To my knowledge, tagging is only applied to the data when it goes on the
> trunk and/or vlan associated devices. When the packet leaves the vlan
device
> the tag is stripped off and the packet traverses the non-vlan network
> devices
> as a normal, untagged packet.
>
> anybody else ?
>
> Larry Letterman
> Cisco Systems
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message -
> From: "Anthony Pace"
> To:
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 11:49 AM
> Subject: Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]
>
>
> > How can you tell a switch or router to treat untagged frames as any
other
> > VLAN other thatn VLAN1 which is the default? Is it a VTP command on the
> > switch? How about routers ? How about 2924 siwtches?
> >
> > Anthony Pace
> > ""Jeffrey Reed""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > One of the things related to native VLAN was VTP updates. I think they
> go
> > > over the "native" VLAN, so you'll need to make sure its the same for
all
> > the
> > > switches in the same VTP domain.
> > >
> > > Jeffrey Reed
> > > Classic Networking, Inc.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Lopez, Robert
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: native vlan [7:41837]
> > >
> > > Group,
> > >
> > > What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native
> > vlan"
> > > when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when
setting
> > up
> > > a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both
> switches
> > as
> > > the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a
faster
> > > response. :)   TIA.
> > >
> > > Robert
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert M. Lopez
> > > Network Engineering
> > > CIT - Ann Arbor
> > > Pfizer Global Research & Development
> > > Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690
> > >
> > > "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing
is
> a
> > > miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."  ...Albert
> > > Einstein




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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf

I understand.  But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the CxO, a
CCIE  isn't going to cut it.  Like you said, it's a case of what you want
out of life.

However, what I will definitely say is this.  If you work for a company that
is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to take
it.  If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees as
you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future.



""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and am
> perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my boss with
> the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you get laid off
at
> 45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up
there
> in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a job.
I
> work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this
> economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back from
> 500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a job in
> Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network engineer. My
boss
> and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the local
> market and less chances of them finding a place in another part of the
> company as they are cutting back everywhere.
>
> Just some food for thought.
>
>
> >From: "nrf"
> >Reply-To: "nrf"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
> >
> >""Drew""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Sean Knox wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP, I
> >am
> > > > content with that for now and and getting more experience
(fortunately
> >I
> >am
> > > > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
> >awhile).
> > > > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had
> > > planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work
> > > enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with
> > > routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert, even
> > > if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my MS in CS, starting
> > > classes in June.
> > >
> > > I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit than
> > > an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.
> >
> >Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes might
> >be
> >cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50?
Probably
> >not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering other
> >young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion to that
chair
> >without an advanced education.
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Re: IPX EIGRP Metrics [7:41585]

2002-04-18 Thread Anthony Pace

IPX EIGRP and IP EIGRP are 2 different processes (it would seem) but the
floating static route would be :
ipx route default DDD.0004.dd82.0340 floating-static

Anthony Pace

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> Steve,
>
> What IP routing protcol are you using? If you're using an IP routing
> protocol that only routes based on bandwidth (ie OSPF) you should be able
to
> influence the IPX EIGRP routing decisions by changing the delay on the
> interface.
>
> If you're using EIGRP as your IP routing protcol as well, that doesn't do
> you much good. From there you have two possible solutions I can think of.
> One would be to change the bandwidth or delay to get your IPX traffic to
do
> what you want, then use policy routing to force your IP traffic to do what
> you want. That sounds like the simplest approach.
>
> Your other option would be to tune the metrics under IP EIGRP so that they
> don't take delay into account, then change the delay on the interface
> however you see fit. I don't know if changing the metric weights in IP
EIGRP
> would affect IPX EIGRP, so I'd shy away from that if at all possible.
>
> hth,
> Hal
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Stephen Barlow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 8:10 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: IPX EIGRP Metrics [7:41585]
>
>
> Is there any way to alter the metrics of IPX EIGRP other than changing the
> bandwidth on an interface?  Specifically, I want to route IPX traffic over
a
> 40Mbs link instead of a 100Mbs temporarily, and I don't want to alter the
> bandwidth on the interface as it will affect the IP routing.
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Steve




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token ring adapter [7:41871]

2002-04-18 Thread Edward Sohn

does anyone know what this part is called?  i'm talking about the
adapter that connects a DB-9 token ring port (on a 2515) to an RJ-45?

thanks in advance...

eddie



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RE: CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]

2002-04-18 Thread Barbee Jason

I had a 2926T (Cat 5002, with Sup II engine) do the same thing. I was
running a similar version of 4.5(6a). I disabled the ports too, but it would
keep happenening when I plugged in a device to the port.
cleared config, no change either. reset module, no help.
BUT, I flashed 4.5(13) on it and it fixed it up. No more errors. Try that.
-Jason
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RE: token ring adapter [7:41871]

2002-04-18 Thread Barbee Jason

I don't recall the part number, but I bought mine from www.anthonypanda.com.
I had a really hard time finding those things.
Very well priced.
-Jason
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RE: Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]

2002-04-18 Thread Logan, Harold

Sorry if this sounds dumb, but isn't that effectively what you do when you
make a port a member of a static VLAN?

-Original Message-
From: Anthony Pace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 2:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Untagged Frames ?? [7:41853]


How can you tell a switch or router to treat untagged frames as any other
VLAN other thatn VLAN1 which is the default? Is it a VTP command on the
switch? How about routers ? How about 2924 siwtches?

Anthony Pace
""Jeffrey Reed""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> One of the things related to native VLAN was VTP updates. I think they go
> over the "native" VLAN, so you'll need to make sure its the same for all
the
> switches in the same VTP domain.
>
> Jeffrey Reed
> Classic Networking, Inc.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Lopez, Robert
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: native vlan [7:41837]
>
> Group,
>
> What is the significance of deciding what vlan to use for the "native
vlan"
> when setting up a trunk.  Presently,  I use "native vlan 1" when setting
up
> a trunk.  Could I use any other vlan that is established on both switches
as
> the "native vlan"? I'll be searching thru CCO while I wait for a faster
> response. :)   TIA.
>
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> Robert M. Lopez
> Network Engineering
> CIT - Ann Arbor
> Pfizer Global Research & Development
> Phone 734-622-3948  Fax 734-622-1690
>
> "There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a
> miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle."  ...Albert
> Einstein




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How much for a Lab? [7:41874]

2002-04-18 Thread Nomadic Ping

guys, quick question, how much would you expect to pay for the following
kit?

1) cisco 3512xl switch with 2 GBICs
2) 2x2513 16flash 16 Ram
3) 3x2501 8MB Flash 16 MB Ram
4) 1603 with 8MB flash 6MB Ram + 1 serial wic card
5) 2610 16MB Flash 48MB Ram+ 2 serial Wic Cards +  4 port serial NM-4A/S
6) 3 dce cables 5 dte cables + some ethernet cables

Any rough estimate most appreciated




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Dial-up problem on a 3640 [7:41876]

2002-04-18 Thread Amii Papa

Hi folks,
I am configuring a 3640 for simple dial up access from
WIndows clients.

Unfortunately, when I dial from the clients to the
router, I do not get connected. A modem debug on the
router gives the message 'DISCNNECT ... No Carrier'

Also, when i did a reverse telnet into the modems and
tried to dial in using AT commands, the modems
responded with 'NO CARRIER'

I would appreciate any ideas on moving forward on
this.

regards,
Amii


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CCIE Practice Lab [7:41878]

2002-04-18 Thread Mohsin Hussain

Anyone taken CCIE practice lab at XINCON Technology, Downtown Toronto. If
you have then would you recommend it?

Mohsin


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Re: How do you get that? [7:41832]

2002-04-18 Thread Tom Lisa

Here is a good link for some basic T1 info.
It also has links for additional info.

http://www.commweb.com/article/COM20010807S0013

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy



Rico Ortiz wrote:

> Good question, curious of the answer myself. I opened up some telcom books
I
> have on the shelf and the give 8k to "overhead"
> but what overhead? is this signalling, framing?
>
> Rico
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Kelly Cobean
> Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 12:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: How do you get that? [7:41832]
>
> All,
>I was wondering if any of you have a good link to a site that explains
> how the bandwidth is derived for T-1/T-3 circuits.  What I'm looking for
> specifically is how we come to 1.544 Mb/s for a T-1 that is 24x64K channels
> which = 1536K, and what happens to the other 8K, and the same calculation
> for a T-3.  Descriptions of Robbed-bit signaling, etc., too.  Thanks much
> for your help.
>
> Kelly Cobean, CCNP, CCSA, ACSA, MCSE, MCP+I
> Network Engineer
> GRC International, Inc., an AT&T company




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RE: CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]

2002-04-18 Thread John McCartney

Jason, Thanks for your help, I'll try that. BTW - could you flash the SUP II
w/ the error msgs happening? Thanks again. - John


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RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Many of you may have seen this, but it looks like this guy has got it all!!
:-) He has a little bit to say about graduate school and the CCIE.
Basically, interesting reading. Click here (watch for word wrap)
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/spotlight.html

Shawn K.

-Original Message-
From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]


I understand.  But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the CxO, a
CCIE  isn't going to cut it.  Like you said, it's a case of what you want
out of life.

However, what I will definitely say is this.  If you work for a company that
is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to take
it.  If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees as
you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future.



""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and 
> am perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my 
> boss with the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you 
> get laid off
at
> 45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up
there
> in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a 
> job.
I
> work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this 
> economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back 
> from 500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a 
> job in Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network 
> engineer. My
boss
> and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the 
> local market and less chances of them finding a place in another part 
> of the company as they are cutting back everywhere.
>
> Just some food for thought.
>
>
> >From: "nrf"
> >Reply-To: "nrf"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
> >
> >""Drew""  wrote in message 
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Sean Knox wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my 
> > > > CCNP, I
> >am
> > > > content with that for now and and getting more experience
(fortunately
> >I
> >am
> > > > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
> >awhile).
> > > > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you 
> > > > luck.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had 
> > > planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't 
> > > work enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly 
> > > not with routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve 
> > > the cert, even if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my 
> > > MS in CS, starting classes in June.
> > >
> > > I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit 
> > > than an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.
> >
> >Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes 
> >might be cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 
> >50?
Probably
> >not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering 
> >other young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion 
> >to that
chair
> >without an advanced education.
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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread ashish

i am into netoworking field since 5 years but haven't got opportunity to
work in real networking projects coz I usually worked in SNMP related
projects and for sometime in wireless domain and I have never been an IT
administrator.
I have done CCNA and preparing for CCNP.
Before CCNA, I was not well versed in networking technologies coz i never
got any opportunity to work in them.
CCNA and now preps for CCNP is helping me a lot to know some concepts about
different technologies and how they are actually used in real world.
But to be frank, gaining knowledge is one thing, but i wonder if CCNP will
be of any help for my future jobs or atleast add some value to my resume coz
I have very little experience with cisco boxes.
And in present job scene, just good knowledge of any technology is not going
to cut it.U need some real experience.
and without actual project work, u cannot get real experience.Therefore, I
am back to same old problem
Someone wrote that even CCIE with little or no IT experience is of no use.
So,may be, higher studies can be a better option for guys like me.



- Original Message -
From: nrf 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]


> I understand.  But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the CxO,
a
> CCIE  isn't going to cut it.  Like you said, it's a case of what you want
> out of life.
>
> However, what I will definitely say is this.  If you work for a company
that
> is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to
take
> it.  If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees
as
> you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future.
>
>
>
> ""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and am
> > perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my boss
with
> > the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you get laid
off
> at
> > 45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up
> there
> > in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a
job.
> I
> > work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this
> > economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back
from
> > 500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a job in
> > Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network engineer. My
> boss
> > and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the local
> > market and less chances of them finding a place in another part of the
> > company as they are cutting back everywhere.
> >
> > Just some food for thought.
> >
> >
> > >From: "nrf"
> > >Reply-To: "nrf"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
> > >
> > >""Drew""  wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Sean Knox wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my CCNP,
I
> > >am
> > > > > content with that for now and and getting more experience
> (fortunately
> > >I
> > >am
> > > > > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
> > >awhile).
> > > > > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you luck.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had
> > > > planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't work
> > > > enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly not with
> > > > routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve the cert,
even
> > > > if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my MS in CS,
starting
> > > > classes in June.
> > > >
> > > > I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit
than
> > > > an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.
> > >
> > >Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes
might
> > >be
> > >cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're 50?
> Probably
> > >not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering
other
> > >young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion to that
> chair
> > >without an advanced education.
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CIPT 3.1 - Which Boson test recommeded [7:41884]

2002-04-18 Thread V patankar

Guys,

This week, I am attending the CIPT 3.1 course and I intend to take the exam
in the next two weeks or so.

Boson has three practise test available (#1, #2, #3).

Has anybody used any of the above test from Boson, if so, which one is
recommended.

Besides, does anyone know of any other exam prep resources ? if so please
send me more information on the same.

TIA.
VP


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RE: CAT5K PAGP-3 error [7:41822]

2002-04-18 Thread John McCartney

Jason, - Thanks it worked with 4.5(13a)


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pix config [7:41887]

2002-04-18 Thread Mark Patrick

PIX 6.1.3

am trying to add tftp to the list of allowed connections out of my test lab
to an external tftp server.
the fixup protocol is not working. how do i allow outbound tftp?

lab-firewall(config)# fixup proto tftp
usage: [no] fixup protocol  [] [-]
lab-firewall(config)# fixup proto tftp 69
bad protocol tftp



thanks, mark




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RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread Wes Stevens

I guess my point is that you will eventually hit a point in your career 
where you have to decide if you want to stay technical or go into 
management. For everyone it is different. For me it was a no brainer - I 
hated the paperwork and budgets ect. But another thing to keep in mind is 
like you said where do you want to be when your are 50. For me middle 
management is the pits. I have seen people come to work here and get their 
MBA degree from U of M at night paid for by the company. Did it hurt their 
careers? No for sure not. But did they ever make it out of middle management 
- no. Maybe other companies are different but to make it here you have to 
have to pedigree comming out of school i.e. stick it out for an MBA and it 
better be from a top tier (and no U of M is not on the list) school. If not 
you will never see an upper management position.

>From: "Kaminski, Shawn G" 
>Reply-To: "Kaminski, Shawn G" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
>Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:39:39 -0400
>
>Many of you may have seen this, but it looks like this guy has got it all!!
>:-) He has a little bit to say about graduate school and the CCIE.
>Basically, interesting reading. Click here (watch for word wrap)
>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/spotlight.html
>
>Shawn K.
>
>-Original Message-
>From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:10 PM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
>
>
>I understand.  But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the CxO, 
>a
>CCIE  isn't going to cut it.  Like you said, it's a case of what you want
>out of life.
>
>However, what I will definitely say is this.  If you work for a company 
>that
>is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to 
>take
>it.  If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees as
>you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future.
>
>
>
>""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
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> > A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and
> > am perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my
> > boss with the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you
> > get laid off
>at
> > 45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up
>there
> > in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a
> > job.
>I
> > work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this
> > economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back
> > from 500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a
> > job in Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network
> > engineer. My
>boss
> > and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the
> > local market and less chances of them finding a place in another part
> > of the company as they are cutting back everywhere.
> >
> > Just some food for thought.
> >
> >
> > >From: "nrf"
> > >Reply-To: "nrf"
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
> > >
> > >""Drew""  wrote in message
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Sean Knox wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my
> > > > > CCNP, I
> > >am
> > > > > content with that for now and and getting more experience
>(fortunately
> > >I
> > >am
> > > > > not some new wide-eyed kid in the field and have been doing this
> > >awhile).
> > > > > Congrats on your decision to pursue your MBA and I wish you
> > > > > luck.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I made a similar decision myself within the last few weeks.  I had
> > > > planned on pursuing my CCIE-Security, but realize that I don't
> > > > work enough with Cisco products on a daily basis, and certainly
> > > > not with routing in a complex way, to feel that I would deserve
> > > > the cert, even if I attained it.  I'm going back to school for my
> > > > MS in CS, starting classes in June.
> > > >
> > > > I think in the long run, an advanced degree is more of a benefit
> > > > than an advanced vendor cert.  But thats just me.
> > >
> > >Exactly.  Especially later in your life.  Fiddling with Cisco boxes
> > >might be cool now, but do you still want to be doing that when you're
> > >50?
>Probably
> > >not, you probably want to be sitting in a director's chair ordering
> > >other young guys to set up the systems.  It's hard to win promotion
> > >to that
>chair
> > >without an advanced education.
> > _
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Re: pix config [7:41887]

2002-04-18 Thread l0stbyte

Mark,

fixup is nearly a "wrapper" service provided by Cisco. It is also known as
Adaptive Security Algorithm. All of the supported protocols are enabled by
default, except DNS, I think.

If you only need to allow tftp out, you should look at your access lists. If
conduits are used, it should be allowed by default.

""Mark Patrick""  wrote in message
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> PIX 6.1.3
>
> am trying to add tftp to the list of allowed connections out of my test
lab
> to an external tftp server.
> the fixup protocol is not working. how do i allow outbound tftp?
>
> lab-firewall(config)# fixup proto tftp
> usage: [no] fixup protocol  [] [-]
> lab-firewall(config)# fixup proto tftp 69
> bad protocol tftp
>
>
>
> thanks, mark




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Re: Might be of InCisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy [7:41890]

2002-04-18 Thread Gaz

I can sort of see their point of view though.
Why provide the same level of support for routers which have OEM parts.
Memory can be particularly troublesome.
I bought some 1720 memory a while ago on the cheap,and it wouldn't quite fit
in the case (probably for 1750). When there's been that much attention to
detail, you may as well trim the top off it to fit it in.

If I buy a Ferrari, then put Ford bits all over it, I wouldn't expect
Ferrari to honour my warranty.

Mind you, chances of me buying a Ferrari are fairly bloody slim, so I'll not
worry too much.  :-)


At least Cisco's point of view is that if the Ford bits aren't the problem,
they'll still support the kit.


Gaz


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> Its so Obvious that Cisco is trying to be like Microsoft by monopolizing
the
> market.
>
> Ismail Al-shelh
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matthew Crane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> Subject: Might be of InCisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy [7:41476]
>
>
> April 10, 2002
>
> Cisco GBIC Sourcing & Support Policy
>
> We are continuing to receive questions concerning the consequences of
Cisco
> end users acquiring GBICs (Gigabit Interface Converter) modules from
> non-Cisco sourced third parties or directly from GBIC suppliers for
> deployment in Cisco routers and switches.
>
> Apparently there is still some confusion on what Cisco's position and
policy
> is in respect of these third party GBIC's, which is why I would like to
> summarize those for you and highlight the main points. I would also like
to
> take this opportunity to outline what Cisco would expect from you as a
> Channel Partner when it comes to you supplying non-Cisco GBIC's together
> with Cisco equipment to end users.
>
> Cisco's policy:
> Products from non-Cisco sources do not qualify for Cisco support and may
not
> be compatible with hardware, power, or software requirements. Cisco
sourced
> GBIC's can be easily identified by the Cisco logo and trademarks on the
> label. If a GBIC does not have the Cisco label and trademarks on it, then
it
> has not been sourced from Cisco and is subject to the conditions outlined
> below.
>
> GBIC's acquired through non-Cisco sources will be subject to the following
> conditions:
>
> 1) Cisco TAC is not under an obligation to support any non-Cisco GBIC
> modules;
>
> 2) Cisco SMARTnet will not cover non-Cisco GBIC modules;
>
> 3) Cisco does not guarantee the performance or results you may obtain by
> using a non-Cisco GBIC;
>
> 4) In the event that an end user experiences a support issue that Cisco
> determines is caused by use of a third party GBIC, Cisco will not provide
> warranty support or support under SMARTNet or another Cisco support
program
> for that issue. On the other hand, where a product fault or defect occurs
in
> the network and Cisco concludes that the fault or defect is not
attributable
> to the use of a GBIC installed by our customers or partners, Cisco will
> continue to provide support for the affected product under warranty or a
> Cisco support program. The nature of the defect or error is the key to
> determining what Cisco's support obligations are.
>
> Cisco sources GBIC's from third party suppliers, who agree to follow Cisco
> quality standards.  Sometimes, Cisco disqualifies a supplier because of
> quality issues with that supplier's product, or for other reasons (i.e.
EMI
> or power requirements). Disqualified suppliers may continue to sell their
> GBIC's and please note that they or parties that have purchased from them
> may claim that their GBIC's are Cisco approved. Such statements are at
best
> unreliable and our customers should understand that only by sourcing
GBIC's
> directly from Cisco or a Cisco Authorized Channel, can our customers be
> confident they are getting Cisco approved modules that will qualify for
> Cisco support (Cisco sourced GBICs can be identified by the Cisco logo and
> trademarks on the label). We are taking appropriate legal action against
> suppliers using such false and misleading statements.
>
>
> What does Cisco expect from its Authorized Channels?
> Obviously we believe strongly that our GBIC's are superior in terms of
> quality and performance to any non-Cisco GBIC. Nevertheless, you may in
> certain instances prefer to resell third party GBIC's. As stated above,
this
> may occasionally give rise to support and warranty issues, and may cause
> confusion with the end users. In order to prevent such issues and to
protect
> Cisco's brand and reputation we would like to ask you to observe the
> following guidelines when reselling non-Cisco GBIC's together with or
> already installed in any Cisco products you are reselling:
>
> Inform the end user of the fact that he is receiving a non-Cisco GBIC;
> Inform the end user that such a non-Cisco GBIC will not qualify for
> Cisco support;
> Inform the end user of the

Re: Website File Management Software [7:41621]

2002-04-18 Thread Gaz

How about the Cisco Content Networking Products (Content Manager I think
does this), and it'll save you wondering what to spend your money on. You
might not have any after you've bought it.
For larger scale job though it might answer the problem.

Gaz

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> We use rdist to push new content on to production boxes and to keep
> consistency. Here is a link:
>
> http://www.magnicomp.com/rdist/
>
> ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
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> > Wyyy  OT. sorry.  :-)
> >
> > Right now we have a couple of web servers with identical content and
> > all file updates must be handled manually by myself or someone else in
> > my group because we're the only ones with access to the secure part of
> > our network.  Even with only two servers, it gets to be a pain to
> > manually copy files out to the web servers, especially since certain
> > files can change multiple times per day.
> >
> > I'm thinking that companies that have a lot of servers, especially
> > 'mirrored' servers, must have a better way of managing all of this and
> > perhaps automating a portion of it.  However, I don't even really know
> > where to start looking.
> >
> > Do you know what products might be out there to handle this particular
> > issue?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John




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Re: 2900 series switch password [7:41680]

2002-04-18 Thread Gaz

Type quicker!

Sounds daft, but you've got to fit it in the 30 seconds. Just cut and paste
a script if you've got fidget fingers like me.

Gaz


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> Thank you,
> I can get to the enable mode, however when I run the set enablepass, it
> requests the old password.  hence this command is useless...
> Any other ideas?
> Thanks again,
>
> ""Patrick Bass""  wrote in message
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> > use the 'set password' command to change the login password of the cli.
> > use the 'set enablepass' command to change the password for the
privileged
> > level of the cli.
> >
> >
> > ""Magichut""  wrote in message
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> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have the silliest question.  It should be simple, but it's not
> > turning
> > > out that way.  I have a Cisco ws-c2900 series switch with a sup. eng.
on
> > it.
> > > It has a console port, 2 mdi ports and a reset button (no Mode
button).
> I
> > > am merely trying to reset the password.  the company that owns the
> switch
> > > lost their IT guy and need to reset the vlans.  I can get to enable
mode
> > by
> > > cycling the switch and initially logging in within seconds of boot up.
> > but
> > > cannot reset the password.  I can change the vlans, reset gateways,
and
> > > everything but reset the password.  any help would be appreciated
here.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Magichut




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Priority queueing and IMA interfaces [7:41893]

2002-04-18 Thread Bob Timmons

Greetings all,

I ran into a small snag and was wondering if anyone else has seen the same.

We've upgraded our connection to our parent company from a single T1 (1.5M)
to 4 T1's (6MB) using the IMA cards in our 7206.  We were previously using
the regular serial interfaces and CSU/DSUs.  We were also using
priority-queueing to limit FTP traffic between the 2 sites.  Apparently,
priority-queueing does not work on IMA interfaces.  Cisco recommended
class-based weighted fair queueing, but I'm interested in what you people
would recommend.

This particular 7206 is a 'border-type' router.  We're using OSPF as our IGP
and they're using EIGRP.  This router runs EIGRP and we run static to it
from another 7206.  Would it be possible to use the priority-queueing on the
FastEthernet interface of the 'border' router?  Assuming it did work, would
it work in both directions?  My fear is that it would queue only on the
FastE, not on the IMA.  Not sure how that would work.

Bob




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US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]

2002-04-18 Thread Mayo, Simer

I'm trying to connect a US Robotics sportster modem to a Cisco 2514 thru the
aux port. 
The dip switches on the modem: one, three and eight are down and all others
are up.
Config: 
line aux 0
login
password password
modem inout
modem autoconfigure type usr_sportster
transport input all
flowcontrol hardware
stopbits 1
speed 38400
When i reverse telnet into the modem it prompts for the password and OK but
after that i cant type anything. The only way out is cancel the session
(Ctrl+Shft+6..x) and then disconnect. 
I have tried using the modem autoconfigure discovery but it couldn't find
the modem...i checked this debuging confmodem
On sh line 1:
Modem state: Ready
Modem hardware state: noCTS noDSR  DTR RTS: 

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks 

Simer




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Netscout in the closet [7:41895]

2002-04-18 Thread Rodney Jackson

Guys,
I recently found a Netscout probe but I don't know the first thing about
setting it up.  All the information on the web site is locked behind a
service contract.  If anyone has any information I would greatly thankful.
Does anyone out there have any Netscout Documentation or Software for sale




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Home LAB [7:41897]

2002-04-18 Thread CODETEL

Hello guys..
I want to know if it's good idea to buy Cisco Homelab for practice yourself
in your home if you want to be CCIE?

what are you think about practice in your own lab?




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RE: US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]

2002-04-18 Thread Mark Odette II

Get rid of the Modem Autoconfigure line, and see what happens.

Mark
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Subject: US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]


I'm trying to connect a US Robotics sportster modem to a Cisco 2514 thru the
aux port.
The dip switches on the modem: one, three and eight are down and all others
are up.
Config:
line aux 0
login
password password
modem inout
modem autoconfigure type usr_sportster
transport input all
flowcontrol hardware
stopbits 1
speed 38400
When i reverse telnet into the modem it prompts for the password and OK but
after that i cant type anything. The only way out is cancel the session
(Ctrl+Shft+6..x) and then disconnect.
I have tried using the modem autoconfigure discovery but it couldn't find
the modem...i checked this debuging confmodem
On sh line 1:
Modem state: Ready
Modem hardware state: noCTS noDSR  DTR RTS:

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks

Simer




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frame-relay switch [7:41899]

2002-04-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Does anyone know how to connect and configure two (2) 2513 as a frame-relay
switch? Please send me the config file.

mike



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RE: frame-relay switch [7:41899]

2002-04-18 Thread Mayo, Simer

Hope this helps:

On the Switch: 
FRswitch(config)#frame-relay switching
FRswitch(config)#interface serial 0/0
FRswitch(config-if)#encapsulation frame-relay
FRswitch(config-if)#frame-relay interface-type dce
!---Frame Relay switches identify inbound frames by their DLCI. The DLCI is
then referenced in a switching table to determine the outbound port.

!---Configure a static route for each serial interface to define an
end-to-end PVC:
FRswitch(config)#interface serial 0/0
FRswitch(config-if)#frame-relay route 18 interface serial 0/1 17
FRswitch(config-if)#interface serial 0/1
FRswitch(config-if)#frame-relay route 16 interface serial 0/0 19

On router 1:
RTR1(config)#interface serial 0/0
RTR1(config-if)#encapsulation frame-relay
RTR1(config-if)#ip address 192.168.192.1 255.255.255.0
RTR1(config-if)#exit
Specify the DLCI number on both routers.


Simer 



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Does anyone know how to connect and configure two (2) 2513 as a frame-relay
switch? Please send me the config file.

mike



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RE: stub areas and virtual-links [7:41744]

2002-04-18 Thread Tim Potier

The transit area can not be a stub, BUT the area utilizing the transit can
be a stub area.


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Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf

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""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
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> I guess my point is that you will eventually hit a point in your career
> where you have to decide if you want to stay technical or go into
> management. For everyone it is different. For me it was a no brainer - I
> hated the paperwork and budgets ect. But another thing to keep in mind is
> like you said where do you want to be when your are 50. For me middle
> management is the pits.

Yet you have made an assumption that being stuck in middle-management is all
the MBA is good for.  I would argue that nobody who goes for the MBA really
wants to be stuck in middle-management, their real ambition is to be CxO,
and middle-management is just a step in their (hopefully) advancing career.

And then there is a giant slice of MBA'ers, dare I say a majority of the
students in the big-"name" MBA schools, who have no desire to be climbing
the standard corporate ladder, and therefore will never get stuck in
traditional middle-management.  Rather, they are getting their MBA because
they wanna be Wall Street banker/financier/wheeler-dealers or high-priced
management/strategic consultants - industries where the MBA is effectively
mandatory.  A CCIE and strong networking experience might make for a good
career, but won't make you a multi-millionare, but working for a Manhattan
investment bank could make you a lot of money very quickly (but a lot of
high-stress work too).

>I have seen people come to work here and get their
> MBA degree from U of M at night paid for by the company. Did it hurt their
> careers? No for sure not. But did they ever make it out of middle
management
> - no. Maybe other companies are different but to make it here you have to
> have to pedigree comming out of school i.e. stick it out for an MBA and it
> better be from a top tier (and no U of M is not on the list) school. If
not
> you will never see an upper management position.

Careful.  I assume you talking about UMiami (killer football team, by the
way).  However, when a lot of people think of "U of M" in conjunction with
MBA programs, they probably think you mean the University of Michigan, which
is generally considered to be one of the premier business schools in the
country (ranked #10 in the latest US News rankings).

>
> >From: "Kaminski, Shawn G"
> >Reply-To: "Kaminski, Shawn G"
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 17:39:39 -0400
> >
> >Many of you may have seen this, but it looks like this guy has got it
all!!
> >:-) He has a little bit to say about graduate school and the CCIE.
> >Basically, interesting reading. Click here (watch for word wrap)
> >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/spotlight.html
> >
> >Shawn K.
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: nrf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 4:10 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> >
> >
> >I understand.  But on the other hand, if you have ambitions to be the
CxO,
> >a
> >CCIE  isn't going to cut it.  Like you said, it's a case of what you want
> >out of life.
> >
> >However, what I will definitely say is this.  If you work for a company
> >that
> >is willing to finance your degree at night school, you're a fool not to
> >take
> >it.  If you're not the one paying for it, you should get as many degrees
as
> >you can, because you never know what's going to happen in the future.
> >
> >
> >
> >""Wes Stevens""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > A lot of it is what you want out of life. I will be 50 in 5 years and
> > > am perfectly happy playing with cisco's. I make more money then my
> > > boss with the mba does and have more job security. What happens if you
> > > get laid off
> >at
> > > 45 or 50 with a middle to upper management job? If you are not way up
> >there
> > > in the corner office area you are going to have a hard time finding a
> > > job.
> >I
> > > work for a company in the fortune top 5 that is very stable. Yet this
> > > economy is hitting us also. They are going to cut my office way back
> > > from 500 people to 200 by the end of the year. They will offer me a
> > > job in Houston as they can always find a spot for a cisco network
> > > engineer. My
> >boss
> > > and a lot of other are really scrambling. There are no jobs in the
> > > local market and less chances of them finding a place in another part
> > > of the company as they are cutting back everywhere.
> > >
> > > Just some food for thought.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "nrf"
> > > >Reply-To: "nrf"
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: Re: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]
> > > >Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400
> > > >
> > > >""Drew""  wrote in message
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Sean Knox wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was actually heading towards my CCIE, but after getting my
> > > > > > CCNP, I
> > > >am
> > > > >

RE: US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]

2002-04-18 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

If you remove the "modem autoconfigure ..." as Mark suggested, then you will
need a modem chat script.

"modem autoconfigure ..." will work fine on an US Robotics Sposter with pin
3 and 8 down

You should reverse telnet to the modem and type "at&F" and  enter.

Then you type "ati4" and enter (even if you don't see what you type)

 Send us a copy of what your session and your "running config"

Pierre-Alex

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Mark Odette II
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:16 PM
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Subject: RE: US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]


Get rid of the Modem Autoconfigure line, and see what happens.

Mark
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Mayo, Simer
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Subject: US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]


I'm trying to connect a US Robotics sportster modem to a Cisco 2514 thru the
aux port.
The dip switches on the modem: one, three and eight are down and all others
are up.
Config:
line aux 0
login
password password
modem inout
modem autoconfigure type usr_sportster
transport input all
flowcontrol hardware
stopbits 1
speed 38400
When i reverse telnet into the modem it prompts for the password and OK but
after that i cant type anything. The only way out is cancel the session
(Ctrl+Shft+6..x) and then disconnect.
I have tried using the modem autoconfigure discovery but it couldn't find
the modem...i checked this debuging confmodem
On sh line 1:
Modem state: Ready
Modem hardware state: noCTS noDSR  DTR RTS:

Any help will be appreciated.
Thanks

Simer




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6509 and OC-3 ATM FlexWan [7:41904]

2002-04-18 Thread Tim Potier

I have a choice here, and am not sure of the load probs.  Core can be a 6509
with 2 MSFC 2's/SUPII's, with an uplink to a 7206 with an OC-3 ATM PA
(MM)...OR, eliminate the 7206, get a Flexwan module for the 6509 and use
the same OC-3 ATM PA.

LAN side looks like this:
12 remote wiring closets, each having a 4006 with 4 48-port 10/100.  Uplinks
to 6509 via 1000SX GBICs (trunking).  Mixed IP/IPX environment.  17 VLANS
(IP and IPX), so the MSFC2's will be doing the inter-vlan routing.  Route
IPX on LAN with RIPv2, IPX on WAN with EIGRP.  IP on WAN is OSPF.--> no
choice here.

WAN traffic mainly TN3270, web traffic and IPX (replication), plus OSPF
routing updates.

Suggestions?  About a 11K savings on the non-7206 design.

Thanks


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Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-18 Thread nrf

Really?  I had never heard of this problem.  I'm not aware that BGP
negotiates MTU in any of its PDU's.  Can you provide the RFC that discusses
this problem?


""suaveguru""  wrote in message
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> If I am not wrong this problem also occurs for BGP
> peers with unmatched MTU sizes which causes BGP to
> flap when they exchange routing tables , especially if
> one neighbour is configured with full-routes
>
>
> regards,
>
> suaveguru
> --- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> > The problem happens when the routers try to exchange
> > database description
> > packets. One side can send packets that are too
> > large for the other side to
> > receive. Then the routers never achieve adjacency.
> > It's an infamous
> > problem. I was glad that Kevin brought it up. I was
> > thinking we should have
> > mentioned it in that other thread about OSPF Hellos
> > (although this problem
> > happens after the initial hellos).
> >
> > More here:
> >
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/12.html
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 11:33 AM 4/17/02, Kane, Christopher A. wrote:
> > > > The most frequently mismatched parameters
> > relevant for OSPF
> > > > configuration
> > > > seem to be dead intervals & mtu sizes.
> > >
> > >OSPF doesn't care about MTU size.
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> __
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Re: OT: MBA or CCIE [7:41809]

2002-04-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Come over here to Japan.  You will make good money here for sure and get 
real work experience.

Theo
CCNP, CCDA






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Hi all,

Maybe this topic is discussed several times but I still can't decide 
wether
to go for the CCIE or to go back to a good business school for MBA.

I am doing networking for 3 yrs now and can see that it's getting harder 
to
find a good. Have all Cisco cert's except of the "lab" and some others
Microsoft, Novell etc. and a Computer Science degree.
The problem is, that here, in europe, some CCIE's are doing jobs like 
System
or Network Administration, which is indeed not well paid at all. It's just
like creating some user logins, assigning and administering IP addresses 
and
do some entries or changes on DNS or even Exchange Servers.

Ok I understand that, it's better than being unemployed.
But is this a CCIE job ?? Really don't think so.

I don't know when the telco market is going up again, but I really think
about going to school and getting a management education.
Jobs for MBA's are still there.

Who knows if and when the market will give back the CCIE's the recognition
they earn ?!?

So, should I stop my track towards the CCIE and go to the "dark side" ??

What do you think guys ??

cheers
tony




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Re: US Robotics modem to Cisco 2514 [7:41894]

2002-04-18 Thread Alex Lee

This is what I have used for a 2501. The Sportster modem has original dip
switch setting of 3,5,8 down all others up.

line aux 0
login local
password password
modem inout
modem autoconfigure type usr_sportster
transport input all
flowcontrol hardware
stopbits 1
speed 38400




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Re: OSPF vs EIGRP [7:41613]

2002-04-18 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

He didn't say that BGP negotiates the MTU in any of its PDUs. He just says 
that mismatched MTUs can be a problem, which is all I mentioned in my 
message about OSPF also (although OSPF does in fact also include the MTU in 
database description packets and refuse to become adjacent with a router 
that doesn't agree on the MTU). Did that have enough TLAs for you? ;-)

Priscilla

At 09:53 PM 4/18/02, nrf wrote:
>Really?  I had never heard of this problem.  I'm not aware that BGP
>negotiates MTU in any of its PDU's.  Can you provide the RFC that discusses
>this problem?
>
>
>""suaveguru""  wrote in message
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > If I am not wrong this problem also occurs for BGP
> > peers with unmatched MTU sizes which causes BGP to
> > flap when they exchange routing tables , especially if
> > one neighbour is configured with full-routes
> >
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > suaveguru
> > --- Priscilla Oppenheimer  wrote:
> > > The problem happens when the routers try to exchange
> > > database description
> > > packets. One side can send packets that are too
> > > large for the other side to
> > > receive. Then the routers never achieve adjacency.
> > > It's an infamous
> > > problem. I was glad that Kevin brought it up. I was
> > > thinking we should have
> > > mentioned it in that other thread about OSPF Hellos
> > > (although this problem
> > > happens after the initial hellos).
> > >
> > > More here:
> > >
> > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/104/12.html
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > > At 11:33 AM 4/17/02, Kane, Christopher A. wrote:
> > > > > The most frequently mismatched parameters
> > > relevant for OSPF
> > > > > configuration
> > > > > seem to be dead intervals & mtu sizes.
> > > >
> > > >OSPF doesn't care about MTU size.
> > > 
> > >
> > > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > http://www.priscilla.com
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > __
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax
> > http://taxes.yahoo.com/


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: How much for a Lab? [7:41874]

2002-04-18 Thread Daniel Cotts

I'd go to eBay and search on completed auctions for each of the items for
which you have an interest.

> -Original Message-
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> 
> 
> guys, quick question, how much would you expect to pay for 
> the following
> kit?
> 
> 1) cisco 3512xl switch with 2 GBICs
> 2) 2x2513 16flash 16 Ram
> 3) 3x2501 8MB Flash 16 MB Ram
> 4) 1603 with 8MB flash 6MB Ram + 1 serial wic card
> 5) 2610 16MB Flash 48MB Ram+ 2 serial Wic Cards +  4 port 
> serial NM-4A/S
> 6) 3 dce cables 5 dte cables + some ethernet cables
> 
> Any rough estimate most appreciated




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ISDN Simulator [7:41896]

2002-04-18 Thread Stephen C

Ok, I give up.  I am tired of being unable to simulate ISDN on my rack.
Been having to go over to the school to do labs and that is hit or miss on a
person with keys.  I would love to buy an Adtran Atlas 550 as configured by
Cisco for the Academies, who wouldn't.  But the money tree just can't grow
it that fast and even thirteen bills (SlimLine 2) is a bit steep for the ol
wallet.  What is the "shoe string" option or is there?

Stephen




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