RE: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-26 Thread Jablonski, Michael
Use ip unnumbered on the WAN interface to the Ethernet.  Assign the Ether a
legal and the PIX a legal and use the rest to your liking...

That's how I setup my home connection; works great!

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Okey Dokey - understood. If you're just playing around that's fine.

You may have a few options. You could use your /29 for the subnet between
router and Pix, but then you lose two of your 6 available addresses for the
router and the Pix. Although you can grab some of these back, for instance
by using port redirection on the outside interface of the Pix, so that port
80 goes to one of your web servers and 53 to one of your DNS servers etc.
The other 4 addresses can be set up as static NAT through the Pix.
Use Global (outside) 1 interface for outgoing connections to save using one
of your addresses for general PAT.

You could use a private address between the router and the Pix and just
route your /29 at the Pix, then do NAT from there. You don't lose any of the
8 addresses then. You could still do port redirection, so one IP address
doesn't have to be one server. Do as before and chip off port 80 for your
web, and 53 for DNS etc.

Good Luck

Bikespace



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> Because I would like pratice. I would like simulate an enterprise.
>
> Just for understand how is make in enterprise. I don't have 100 static IP,
> but, anyway, I don't have 100 server.
>
> Example, Internet-->Enterprise infrastructure
>
> or
>
> Multi-site Enterprise-->Multi-site Enterprise...
>
>
> Anyway, if have 2 DNS server, and 2 Web server, and 2 authentication
server,
> how make NAT/PAT?




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Re: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-23 Thread Lamy Alexandre
do you have a configuration example?


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Re: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-23 Thread Bikespace
Okey Dokey - understood. If you're just playing around that's fine.

You may have a few options. You could use your /29 for the subnet between
router and Pix, but then you lose two of your 6 available addresses for the
router and the Pix. Although you can grab some of these back, for instance
by using port redirection on the outside interface of the Pix, so that port
80 goes to one of your web servers and 53 to one of your DNS servers etc.
The other 4 addresses can be set up as static NAT through the Pix.
Use Global (outside) 1 interface for outgoing connections to save using one
of your addresses for general PAT.

You could use a private address between the router and the Pix and just
route your /29 at the Pix, then do NAT from there. You don't lose any of the
8 addresses then. You could still do port redirection, so one IP address
doesn't have to be one server. Do as before and chip off port 80 for your
web, and 53 for DNS etc.

Good Luck

Bikespace



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> Because I would like pratice. I would like simulate an enterprise.
>
> Just for understand how is make in enterprise. I don't have 100 static IP,
> but, anyway, I don't have 100 server.
>
> Example, Internet-->Enterprise infrastructure
>
> or
>
> Multi-site Enterprise-->Multi-site Enterprise...
>
>
> Anyway, if have 2 DNS server, and 2 Web server, and 2 authentication
server,
> how make NAT/PAT?




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Re: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-23 Thread Lamy Alexandre
Because I would like pratice. I would like simulate an enterprise. 

Just for understand how is make in enterprise. I don't have 100 static IP,
but, anyway, I don't have 100 server.

Example, Internet-->Enterprise infrastructure

or

Multi-site Enterprise-->Multi-site Enterprise...


Anyway, if have 2 DNS server, and 2 Web server, and 2 authentication server,
how make NAT/PAT?




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Re: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-22 Thread Bikespace
With only a /29, you're not going to get far without using NAT/PAT.
What is it that you are trying to do? Why don't you want to use NAT?
There may be other suggestions we can make to overcome this.

Bikespace

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> I need help for configure a Cisco 827 ADSL with a PIX 506
>
> I have 1 static IP + a /29 subnet
>
> Anybody who help me?




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RE: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-22 Thread Lamy Alexandre
But, I have 6 static IP!!!


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RE: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-22 Thread Lamy Alexandre
How company procede when the workstation have a static IP? or with the
server?

I don't think is make with a NAT and PAT ?!


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RE: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-22 Thread - jvd
Hi there,

I assume you want to connect your ADSL router to the internet? Yes, then you
have no other option than to use NAT. You were provided with one static IP
address and this valid address is routable on the internet. Therefore you'll
need typically an extended NAT to this address for all devices connected on
your LAN.

eg.

ip nat inside source list 1 200.248.3.1 overload
access-list 1 permit 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255

where 200.248.3.1 is your static IP and the 192.168.1.0 is the LAN network.

I suggest you use the CRWS tool and later when you are more familiar with
the IOS you can do it yourself.

Regards,



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RE: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-22 Thread Lamy Alexandre
Right!


I want configure my 827 manually, not with CRWS. My connection is PPPoE with
a static IP. Also, I don't want make NAT on my router. If possible, I don't
want NAT on my PIX.

example:

DSL(static_ip)827-->Ethernet(static_ip)-->Outside(static_IP)506-->Inside(static_ip-if 
possible)-->my Network


On my Network:

Web Server
FTP Server
Exchange Server
Terminal Server
VPN with 2000
maybe IPsec with 2000
SSH

I know, surely is more easy with DMZ, but the 506 have only 2 interface.

Thanks!



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RE: Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-21 Thread - jvd
Wow this is a bit wide wouldn't you say? Give some more detail and I'm sure
somebody would help you...


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Router 827 ADSL + PIX 506 configuration [7:71059]

2003-06-21 Thread Lamy Alexandre
I need help for configure a Cisco 827 ADSL with a PIX 506

I have 1 static IP + a /29 subnet

Anybody who help me?





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Re: one 1720 with 2 ADSL load balancing or bounding 2 adsl [7:70966]

2003-06-20 Thread Groupstudy.com
He, I would like to ask  if somebody tried balance the traffic over 2 adsl
(internet) in one router  ( or bound them)  to increase the bandwidth
using only one ISP. ?

Thanks for your help.
Amalker


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> I have a situation whereby I want to perform load balancing across 2
links.
> The problem is that the router which will have to perform the load
balancing
> learns one route via EIGRP and the other from a static route. I know how
to
> alter the administrative distance of the static route but I'm not sure on
> how to tweak the metric. I guess I need to either increase the metric of
the
> static route of reduce the metric of the EIGRP route.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
> Tim




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Re: ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]

2003-06-15 Thread Devrim Yener KUCUK
First of all you need Cisco IOS Software Release 12.2(13)ZH for adsl over
isdn support.

Cisco IOS Software Release 12.2(13)ZH is a short-lived, early deployment
release that will be supported in the second release of Cisco IOS Software
Release 12.3T. It supports the Cisco 831, 836, and 837 routers, and Cisco
1700 Series routers

Check:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps380/prod_bulletin09186a0080
1746b0.html


sh dsl int atm 0 is needed...

-- 0x8 means that the modem is waiting to hear from CO. This probably means
that you do not have a good connection  to the central office.  Check
connection and make sure the correct cable is being used.

---0x10 means that the modem head from CO and now training.  The CO is
connected, and the modems are attempting to negotiate a connection.  If it
fails in this state then there is probably some incompatibility between the
ADSL interface and the central office.  Make sure the correct VPI/VCI is
being used.

--- 0x20 means that activation is completed and link is up.

Regards

De


- Original Message -
From: "dlci_16" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]


> Hello
> i am having layer 1 problems in placing an 836 router for ADSL over ISDN,
> the story so far ;
> the LEDs of the ATM interface (Rx,Tx and CD) keep going on and
> off(constantly,
> yes i know, not good),
> doing a #show ip int brief, obviously shows that both ATM0 and ATM0.1 are
in
> down state (they are not admin. down),
> i have followed Cisco4s troubleshooting 'steps' from their website, from
> checking if DSL port is plugged in correctly, checking correct
powersupply,
> placing dsl operating-mode in auto to checking if the circuit is tested (i
> have placed an Alcatel SpeedTouch and it works), now i am running out of
> options.
>
> a curious thing is when i issue a #debug atm event, i get the usual
readout
> for activation state changes, then :
> "LOCAL:Max noise margin for power cutoff 31"
> followed by a long list of bad news, "modem state 0x8",
> on other adsl capable cisco routers(not over ISDN) i usually have dsl
> power-cutback set at 0 at the interface ATM 0,
> whereas with this router, i dont have this option. i tried to hunt for any
> intel relating to what does this power-cutback 'feature' actually
> do and if its related to this layer 1 problem and found nothing, maby i am
> taking the wrong approach to figuering what
> is wrong/missing, maby i should leave that Alcatel modem running and put
that
> cisco router back in the box
>
> thing is i dont know where to look anymore,
> help? ;)
>
>
>
> sample of my config:
> !
> vpdn enable
> !
> vpdn-group pppoe
>  request-dialin
>   protocol pppoe
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.0.210 255.255.255.0
>  ip nat inside
>  ip tcp adjust-mss 1452
> !
> interface ATM0
>  no ip address
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
>  dsl operating-mode auto
> !
> !
> interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
>  pvc 0/35
>   pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
>  !
> !
> interface Dialer1
>  mtu 1492
>  ip address negotiated
>  ip nat outside
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer pool 1
>  no cdp enable
>  ppp chap hostname xxx
>  ppp chap password 7 xxx
>  ppp pap sent-username xxx password 7 xxx
> !
> ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer1 overload
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
> !
> access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
> !




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Re: ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]

2003-06-15 Thread Devrim Yener KUCUK
First of all you need Cisco IOS Software Release 12.2(13)ZH for adsl over
isdn support.
Cisco IOS Software Release 12.2(13)ZH is a short-lived, early deployment
release that will be supported in the second release of Cisco IOS Software
Release 12.3T. It supports the Cisco 831, 836, and 837 routers, and Cisco
1700 Series routers

Check:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps380/prod_bulletin09186a0080
1746b0.html


sh dsl int atm 0 is needed...
a..
a.. 0x8 means that the modem is waiting to hear from CO. This probably means
that you do not have a good connection  to the central office.  Check
connection and make sure the correct cable is being used.
a.. 0x10 means that the modem head from CO and now training.  The CO is
connected, and the modems are attempting to negotiate a connection.  If it
fails in this state then there is probably some incompatibility between the
ADSL interface and the central office.  Make sure the correct VPI/VCI is
being used.
a.. 0x20 means that activation is completed and link is up.

Regards

De




- Original Message -
From: "dlci_16" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]


> Hello
> i am having layer 1 problems in placing an 836 router for ADSL over ISDN,
> the story so far ;
> the LEDs of the ATM interface (Rx,Tx and CD) keep going on and
> off(constantly,
> yes i know, not good),
> doing a #show ip int brief, obviously shows that both ATM0 and ATM0.1 are
in
> down state (they are not admin. down),
> i have followed Cisco4s troubleshooting 'steps' from their website, from
> checking if DSL port is plugged in correctly, checking correct
powersupply,
> placing dsl operating-mode in auto to checking if the circuit is tested (i
> have placed an Alcatel SpeedTouch and it works), now i am running out of
> options.
>
> a curious thing is when i issue a #debug atm event, i get the usual
readout
> for activation state changes, then :
> "LOCAL:Max noise margin for power cutoff 31"
> followed by a long list of bad news, "modem state 0x8",
> on other adsl capable cisco routers(not over ISDN) i usually have dsl
> power-cutback set at 0 at the interface ATM 0,
> whereas with this router, i dont have this option. i tried to hunt for any
> intel relating to what does this power-cutback 'feature' actually
> do and if its related to this layer 1 problem and found nothing, maby i am
> taking the wrong approach to figuering what
> is wrong/missing, maby i should leave that Alcatel modem running and put
that
> cisco router back in the box
>
> thing is i dont know where to look anymore,
> help? ;)
>
>
>
> sample of my config:
> !
> vpdn enable
> !
> vpdn-group pppoe
>  request-dialin
>   protocol pppoe
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.0.210 255.255.255.0
>  ip nat inside
>  ip tcp adjust-mss 1452
> !
> interface ATM0
>  no ip address
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
>  dsl operating-mode auto
> !
> !
> interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
>  pvc 0/35
>   pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
>  !
> !
> interface Dialer1
>  mtu 1492
>  ip address negotiated
>  ip nat outside
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer pool 1
>  no cdp enable
>  ppp chap hostname xxx
>  ppp chap password 7 xxx
>  ppp pap sent-username xxx password 7 xxx
> !
> ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer1 overload
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
> !
> access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
> !




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Re: ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]

2003-06-15 Thread Duy Nguyen
Have this cisco modem ever worked on ur line?  You said dsl over ISDN, is
this an IDSL?  I know that some modems aren't compatible w/the dslams, or
the Card connecting the circuit at the CO.  Ask the provider, see what their
recommendation on the modems.

- Original Message -
From: "dlci_16" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]


> Hello
> i am having layer 1 problems in placing an 836 router for ADSL over ISDN,
> the story so far ;
> the LEDs of the ATM interface (Rx,Tx and CD) keep going on and
> off(constantly,
> yes i know, not good),
> doing a #show ip int brief, obviously shows that both ATM0 and ATM0.1 are
in
> down state (they are not admin. down),
> i have followed Cisco4s troubleshooting 'steps' from their website, from
> checking if DSL port is plugged in correctly, checking correct
powersupply,
> placing dsl operating-mode in auto to checking if the circuit is tested (i
> have placed an Alcatel SpeedTouch and it works), now i am running out of
> options.
>
> a curious thing is when i issue a #debug atm event, i get the usual
readout
> for activation state changes, then :
> "LOCAL:Max noise margin for power cutoff 31"
> followed by a long list of bad news, "modem state 0x8",
> on other adsl capable cisco routers(not over ISDN) i usually have dsl
> power-cutback set at 0 at the interface ATM 0,
> whereas with this router, i dont have this option. i tried to hunt for any
> intel relating to what does this power-cutback 'feature' actually
> do and if its related to this layer 1 problem and found nothing, maby i am
> taking the wrong approach to figuering what
> is wrong/missing, maby i should leave that Alcatel modem running and put
that
> cisco router back in the box
>
> thing is i dont know where to look anymore,
> help? ;)
>
>
>
> sample of my config:
> !
> vpdn enable
> !
> vpdn-group pppoe
>  request-dialin
>   protocol pppoe
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.0.210 255.255.255.0
>  ip nat inside
>  ip tcp adjust-mss 1452
> !
> interface ATM0
>  no ip address
>  no atm ilmi-keepalive
>  dsl operating-mode auto
> !
> !
> interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
>  pvc 0/35
>   pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
>  !
> !
> interface Dialer1
>  mtu 1492
>  ip address negotiated
>  ip nat outside
>  encapsulation ppp
>  dialer pool 1
>  no cdp enable
>  ppp chap hostname xxx
>  ppp chap password 7 xxx
>  ppp pap sent-username xxx password 7 xxx
> !
> ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer1 overload
> ip classless
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
> !
> access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
> !




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ADSL over ISDN question [7:70676]

2003-06-15 Thread dlci_16
Hello
i am having layer 1 problems in placing an 836 router for ADSL over ISDN,
the story so far ;
the LEDs of the ATM interface (Rx,Tx and CD) keep going on and
off(constantly,
yes i know, not good),
doing a #show ip int brief, obviously shows that both ATM0 and ATM0.1 are in
down state (they are not admin. down),
i have followed Cisco4s troubleshooting 'steps' from their website, from
checking if DSL port is plugged in correctly, checking correct powersupply,
placing dsl operating-mode in auto to checking if the circuit is tested (i
have placed an Alcatel SpeedTouch and it works), now i am running out of
options.

a curious thing is when i issue a #debug atm event, i get the usual readout
for activation state changes, then :
"LOCAL:Max noise margin for power cutoff 31"
followed by a long list of bad news, "modem state 0x8",
on other adsl capable cisco routers(not over ISDN) i usually have dsl
power-cutback set at 0 at the interface ATM 0,
whereas with this router, i dont have this option. i tried to hunt for any
intel relating to what does this power-cutback 'feature' actually
do and if its related to this layer 1 problem and found nothing, maby i am
taking the wrong approach to figuering what
is wrong/missing, maby i should leave that Alcatel modem running and put that
cisco router back in the box 

thing is i dont know where to look anymore,
help? ;)



sample of my config:
!
vpdn enable
!
vpdn-group pppoe
 request-dialin
  protocol pppoe
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.0.210 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
 ip tcp adjust-mss 1452
!
interface ATM0
 no ip address
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 dsl operating-mode auto
!
!
interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
 pvc 0/35
  pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
 !
!
interface Dialer1
 mtu 1492
 ip address negotiated
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp chap hostname xxx
 ppp chap password 7 xxx
 ppp pap sent-username xxx password 7 xxx
!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface Dialer1 overload
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
!
access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
!




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Re: setup adsl 2621xm wic card [7:70185]

2003-06-05 Thread Devrim Yener KUCUK
what will you configure?
rfc 1483 routing, bridging, irb, pppoa, pppoe...?

Check this for various conf options...
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/Support/browse/index.pl?i=Technologies&f=1242

I think your layer 1 is already up?
if not check this
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/794/wicadsl_lyr1.html

Regards

De



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Subject: setup adsl 2621xm wic card [7:70185]


> hi i've a cisco 2621xm with a wic card adsl
> i can't config the ATM
> help me
> thanks
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setup adsl 2621xm wic card [7:70185]

2003-06-05 Thread hugo
hi i've a cisco 2621xm with a wic card adsl
i can't config the ATM
help me
thanks
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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-26 Thread Albert Lu
Sounds interesting. I'm looking at the IntelliPop 5000. It looks like it's
doing VDSL, and limited to 4000ft. This is probably only suitable for
utilising copper pairs within a building. But it pipes data at up to 26Mbps.
Cisco's G.SHDSL goes alot further but with lesser bandwidth.

Does anyone know if there's a DSL NIC that can go into your PC, rather than
having a CPE device? Also, I'm not too familiar with DSL, but does it allow
a splitter facility which you can split your line for voice and data?

Any ideas how much the Tutsys product costs?

Albert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]


NON Cisco, but hey .. tutsytems have a MTU pop (Multi Tenant User),
basically its not multipoint but a chasis that can terminate numberous SDSL
connections over existing copper pair.  The use an eample of puytting one of
these in the basement of a tenant appartment, then using the existing copper
(telephony), you can provide access to all the users in the block (they need
to have a splitter, but thats it!).  Then you would have a single WAN (eg
T1) from the chassis to a provider.

Making use of dark copper / fibre (ie no signalling etc), is a great way to
provide cheap point-to-point links between sites (within the distance
limitations).

Albert Lu wrote:
>
> Found it on cisco.com
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/800/prodlit/apcnf_an.htm
>
> Sounds great!! If only it could do multipoint rather than only
> point-to-point, I guess you can't expect too much from a copper
> pair. Maybe
> cisco can come out with router with multiple g.shdsl interface.
>
> Albert
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
>
>
> As Skarphedinsson told me before about the G.SHDSL 828, he was
> completely
> right.
>
>
> Cisco 828 and SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers offer an affordable
> broadband WAN
> access solution that can be carried over existing copper
> telephone lines
> (Dry one). The routers provide a symmetrical WAN connection at
> speeds up to
> 2.3 Mbps with a 20,000-foot distance limitation.
>
>
> G.SHDSL standard allow two G.SHDSL routers to directly connect
> with copper
> wiring in a back-to-back configuration. This back-to-back
> scenario allows
> two Cisco 828 or Cisco SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers to connect
> without a DSLAM or
> IP DSL Switch between the units.
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
> Thanks for to Troy, Skarphedinsson, Steve Wilson and all.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
>
> I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated
> like Cisco DSL
> products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching
> for the
> right product to implement my solution , I am still interested
> to look for
> the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it
> then I will go
> for MXL-2300.
>
>
> Thanks for help.
>
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
>
> What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something
> similar.  I
> used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...
>
> http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm
>
> at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried
> it this
> using any cisco kit,
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> >
> > I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> >
> > Again
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via DSL
> > without any external service provider (phone company).
> >
> >
> > Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> > to the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal:
> >
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> > wiresdsl
> > router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, Febr

RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-26 Thread Troy Leliard
NON Cisco, but hey .. tutsytems have a MTU pop (Multi Tenant User),
basically its not multipoint but a chasis that can terminate numberous SDSL
connections over existing copper pair.  The use an eample of puytting one of
these in the basement of a tenant appartment, then using the existing copper
(telephony), you can provide access to all the users in the block (they need
to have a splitter, but thats it!).  Then you would have a single WAN (eg
T1) from the chassis to a provider.

Making use of dark copper / fibre (ie no signalling etc), is a great way to
provide cheap point-to-point links between sites (within the distance
limitations).

Albert Lu wrote:
> 
> Found it on cisco.com
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/800/prodlit/apcnf_an.htm
> 
> Sounds great!! If only it could do multipoint rather than only
> point-to-point, I guess you can't expect too much from a copper
> pair. Maybe
> cisco can come out with router with multiple g.shdsl interface.
> 
> Albert
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
> 
> 
> As Skarphedinsson told me before about the G.SHDSL 828, he was
> completely
> right.
> 
> 
> Cisco 828 and SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers offer an affordable
> broadband WAN
> access solution that can be carried over existing copper
> telephone lines
> (Dry one). The routers provide a symmetrical WAN connection at
> speeds up to
> 2.3 Mbps with a 20,000-foot distance limitation.
> 
> 
> G.SHDSL standard allow two G.SHDSL routers to directly connect
> with copper
> wiring in a back-to-back configuration. This back-to-back
> scenario allows
> two Cisco 828 or Cisco SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers to connect
> without a DSLAM or
> IP DSL Switch between the units.
> 
> Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> Thanks for to Troy, Skarphedinsson, Steve Wilson and all.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:52 AM
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
> 
> I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated
> like Cisco DSL
> products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching
> for the
> right product to implement my solution , I am still interested
> to look for
> the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it
> then I will go
> for MXL-2300.
> 
> 
> Thanks for help.
> 
> 
> Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch
> [7:63711]
> 
> What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something
> similar.  I
> used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...
> 
> http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm
> 
> at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried
> it this
> using any cisco kit,
> 
> Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> >
> > I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> >
> > Again
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via DSL
> > without any external service provider (phone company).
> >
> >
> > Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> > to the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal:
> >
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> > wiresdsl
> > router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via ADSL
> > without any external service provider.
> > Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> > the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal?
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> > ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
> >
> >
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> 


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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-26 Thread Albert Lu
Found it on cisco.com

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/rt/800/prodlit/apcnf_an.htm

Sounds great!! If only it could do multipoint rather than only
point-to-point, I guess you can't expect too much from a copper pair. Maybe
cisco can come out with router with multiple g.shdsl interface.

Albert

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]


As Skarphedinsson told me before about the G.SHDSL 828, he was completely
right.


Cisco 828 and SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers offer an affordable broadband WAN
access solution that can be carried over existing copper telephone lines
(Dry one). The routers provide a symmetrical WAN connection at speeds up to
2.3 Mbps with a 20,000-foot distance limitation.


G.SHDSL standard allow two G.SHDSL routers to directly connect with copper
wiring in a back-to-back configuration. This back-to-back scenario allows
two Cisco 828 or Cisco SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers to connect without a DSLAM or
IP DSL Switch between the units.

Ismail Al-Shelh

Thanks for to Troy, Skarphedinsson, Steve Wilson and all.



-Original Message-
From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated like Cisco DSL
products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching for the
right product to implement my solution , I am still interested to look for
the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it then I will go
for MXL-2300.


Thanks for help.


Ismail Al-Shelh


-Original Message-
From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something similar.  I
used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...

http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm

at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried it this
using any cisco kit,

Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
>
> I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
>
> Again
>
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via DSL
> without any external service provider (phone company).
>
>
> Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> to the Branch
> office.
>
>
> Is this design going to achieve my goal:
>
>
> Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> wiresdsl
> router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
>
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via ADSL
> without any external service provider.
> Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> the Branch
> office.
>
>
> Is this design going to achieve my goal?
>
> Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
>
>
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-26 Thread Albert Lu
Hi,

Is this correct? Has anyone tried this before? If it's true, then it will
really be great!! Imagine being able to replace frame relay, vpn for a
office thats nearby and not have to pay a service provider on a regular
basis for port/pvc/cir charges.

Albert



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 6:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]


As Skarphedinsson told me before about the G.SHDSL 828, he was completely
right.


Cisco 828 and SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers offer an affordable broadband WAN
access solution that can be carried over existing copper telephone lines
(Dry one). The routers provide a symmetrical WAN connection at speeds up to
2.3 Mbps with a 20,000-foot distance limitation.


G.SHDSL standard allow two G.SHDSL routers to directly connect with copper
wiring in a back-to-back configuration. This back-to-back scenario allows
two Cisco 828 or Cisco SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers to connect without a DSLAM or
IP DSL Switch between the units.

Ismail Al-Shelh

Thanks for to Troy, Skarphedinsson, Steve Wilson and all.



-Original Message-
From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated like Cisco DSL
products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching for the
right product to implement my solution , I am still interested to look for
the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it then I will go
for MXL-2300.


Thanks for help.


Ismail Al-Shelh


-Original Message-
From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something similar.  I
used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...

http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm

at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried it this
using any cisco kit,

Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
>
> I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
>
> Again
>
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via DSL
> without any external service provider (phone company).
>
>
> Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> to the Branch
> office.
>
>
> Is this design going to achieve my goal:
>
>
> Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> wiresdsl
> router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
>
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via ADSL
> without any external service provider.
> Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> the Branch
> office.
>
>
> Is this design going to achieve my goal?
>
> Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
>
>
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-26 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh
As Skarphedinsson told me before about the G.SHDSL 828, he was completely
right.


Cisco 828 and SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers offer an affordable broadband WAN
access solution that can be carried over existing copper telephone lines
(Dry one). The routers provide a symmetrical WAN connection at speeds up to
2.3 Mbps with a 20,000-foot distance limitation.


G.SHDSL standard allow two G.SHDSL routers to directly connect with copper
wiring in a back-to-back configuration. This back-to-back scenario allows
two Cisco 828 or Cisco SOHO 78 G.SHDSL routers to connect without a DSLAM or
IP DSL Switch between the units.

Ismail Al-Shelh

Thanks for to Troy, Skarphedinsson, Steve Wilson and all.



-Original Message-
From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated like Cisco DSL
products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching for the
right product to implement my solution , I am still interested to look for
the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it then I will go
for MXL-2300.


Thanks for help.


Ismail Al-Shelh


-Original Message-
From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something similar.  I 
used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...

http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm

at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried it this
using any cisco kit,

Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> 
> I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> 
> Again
> 
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via DSL
> without any external service provider (phone company).
> 
> 
> Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> to the Branch
> office.
> 
> 
> Is this design going to achieve my goal:
>  
> 
> Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> wiresdsl
> router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> 
> Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
> 
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via ADSL
> without any external service provider.
> Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> the Branch
> office.
>  
>  
> Is this design going to achieve my goal?
>  
> Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
>  
>  
>  
> Ismail Al-Shelh




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Re: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Darrell Newcomb
I would say the most simple cisco product for using the dry copper available
in your environment would be the long range ethernet(LRE) products.  The
Catalyst LRE products will do 5Mbps @ 1524meters, but be quite sure of the
distance and charactaristics of your copper.  I haven't pushed LRE's
distance and medium quality demands much so more digging would be in order.

Good Luck,
Darrell Newcomb
Netswitch Technology Management
http://www.netswitch.net

""Ismail Al-Shelh""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated like Cisco
DSL
> products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching for the
> right product to implement my solution , I am still interested to look for
> the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it then I will go
> for MXL-2300.
>
>
> Thanks for help.
>
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
>
> What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something similar.  I
> used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...
>
> http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm
>
> at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried it this
> using any cisco kit,
>
> Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> >
> > I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> >
> > Again
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via DSL
> > without any external service provider (phone company).
> >
> >
> > Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> > to the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal:
> >
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> > wiresdsl
> > router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
> >
> > I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> > away via ADSL
> > without any external service provider.
> > Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> > the Branch
> > office.
> >
> >
> > Is this design going to achieve my goal?
> >
> > Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> > ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
> >
> >
> >
> > Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh
I have read the MXL-2300 Brochure its really not complicated like Cisco DSL
products cause to be honest I have lost in Cisco site searching for the
right product to implement my solution , I am still interested to look for
the equivalent product from Cisco, but if I did not find it then I will go
for MXL-2300.


Thanks for help.


Ismail Al-Shelh


-Original Message-
From: Troy Leliard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 7:31 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something similar.  I 
used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...

http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm

at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried it this
using any cisco kit,

Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> 
> I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> 
> Again
> 
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via DSL
> without any external service provider (phone company).
> 
> 
> Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> to the Branch
> office.
> 
> 
> Is this design going to achieve my goal:
>  
> 
> Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> wiresdsl
> router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> 
> Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
> 
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via ADSL
> without any external service provider.
> Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> the Branch
> office.
>  
>  
> Is this design going to achieve my goal?
>  
> Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
>  
>  
>  
> Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Troy Leliard
What you want to do is possibleinfact I demo'd something similar.  I 
used the MXL-2300 from tut systems ...

http://www.tutsys.com/mtu/products/ethernetworking/mxl_2300/index.cfm

at anything under 3.5km you can get about 2MB.  I haven't tried it this
using any cisco kit,

Ismail Al-Shelh wrote:
> 
> I think I have to refine my question to be clearer
> 
> Again
> 
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via DSL
> without any external service provider (phone company).
> 
> 
> Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office
> to the Branch
> office.
> 
> 
> Is this design going to achieve my goal:
>  
> 
> Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper
> wiresdsl
> router---Ethernet--Clients PC.
> 
> Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Ismail Al-Shelh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]
> 
> I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km)
> away via ADSL
> without any external service provider.
> Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to
> the Branch
> office.
>  
>  
> Is this design going to achieve my goal?
>  
> Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
> ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
>  
>  
>  
> Ismail Al-Shelh
> 
> 


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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh
I think I have to refine my question to be clearer

Again

I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km) away via DSL
without any external service provider (phone company).


Two dry copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to the Branch
office.


Is this design going to achieve my goal:
 

Clients PC--Ethernet-dsl router-dry pair of copper wiresdsl
router---Ethernet--Clients PC.

Ismail Al-Shelh

Thanks for your help.



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Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km) away via ADSL
without any external service provider.
Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to the Branch
office.
 
 
Is this design going to achieve my goal?
 
Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
 
 
 
Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Steve Wilson
Ismail,
It does not look possible. Where are you getting the signalling, timing and
IP addresses from?
If you can build it on your test bench with just a pair of wires, best of
luck.

Steve Wilson
Network Engineer

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Subject: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km) away via ADSL
without any external service provider.
Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to the Branch
office.
 
 
Is this design going to achieve my goal?
 
Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
 
 
 
Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Skarphedinsson Arni V.
I would think that you would have to use the 828 G.SHDSL Router, not an 837
ADSL, as an ADSL connection requires an DSLAM to connect to, but the G.SHDSL
is for point to point


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ADSL Between Head Office and Remote Branch [7:63711]

2003-02-25 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh
I want to connect my branch office with my head office (1.5Km) away via ADSL
without any external service provider.
Two copper wires are laid physically from the Head Office to the Branch
office.
 
 
Is this design going to achieve my goal?
 
Clients PC--Ethernet--837 ADSL-pair of copper wires837
ADSL---Ethernet--Clients PC
 
 
 
Ismail Al-Shelh




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RE: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63498]

2003-02-21 Thread Mark W. Odette II
Strictly speaking, I didn't do the math and verify (since you specified
"for example") the ip net block against your example subnet mask.  You
specified .248 as your mask before, now you're indicating it as /24
mask.  Which ever it is, the point was this:

If the ISP has assigned you a two-host subnet for the ADSL connection to
them (Just like a Point-to-Point T1), and they've also assigned you a
block of 8 addresses (1 used for Net boundary, 1 used for Broadcast, 1
used for the Router, 5 used for what ever you feel like), then you would
follow the suggestions for addressing that I laid out.

If you were assigned full Class C addresses for either the DSL
Connection OR the "Client" Public block (which represents hosts like
your WebServer via NAT), then simply put the /24 mask on each interface.
For the ADSL connection itself though, that would be a gross waste of
addresses.

Also, if you were given TWO Class C blocks, then you could simply put
one IP from the first block on your Dialer Interface, one IP from the
same block on the Ethernet0 Interface, and one IP from the same block on
the Outside Interface of the PIX.  You'd then put 1 IP address from the
second block on the Inside interface, and DHCP/STATIC Assign the rest of
that block to any host on the Inside network (alternatively, if you had
a PIX that had the DMZ NIC, you could put the second block on that, but
the address assignment still applies in practice).  This would work for
the application of your web server hosting a max of 253 Unique
.com/.net/.org/.whatever websites- each with its own unique public
address (you can assign a whole class C to a single NIC).  This would,
of course be a waste of addresses if your web server is only hosting a
couple of websites and you don't even have a LAN that uses all 254
addresses of that second public block.


Doing Double-Nat is only really necessary (from my limited experience)
for situations where you are trying to connect two LANs together that
were previously numbered with the same net block/mask, i.e., LAN A and
LAN B are on the 172.16.30.x/24 network.  You have to introduce an
additional router/firewall into the mix on ONE of the ends to make the
connection work (whether it be GRE Tunneling from LAN to LAN, VPN Tunnel
from LAN to LAN, etc.).

I'm quite sure others will expand on or correct me where I'm not hitting
the mark :)

-Mark

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I would like to thank everyone who helped out with my Pix horror picture

show.
This has aroused some possiblities where previously I couldn4t, lets say

"see
the trees from the forest"(or is it the other way around ;)
However this has also brought up some questions about all your
suggestions.

..the story so far:
Network number: 200.10.10.136/30
So I use 200.10.10.138 255.255.255.0 since provide uses the other
available 
IP

Public IPs: 200.10.15.184/29
webserver is 200.10.15.189

Ok, following Mark4s tip I would put 200.10.10.138 255.255.255.0 on
Dialer 
int.
Mark then suggests "Put 200.10.15.184/29 on the Ethernet0 of the DSL 
Router..."
and "Put 200.10.15.185/29 on the PIX Outside Interface..."

umm, the IP on eth0 is my network number for public IP space, so,
shouldn4t 
eth0 on router
be 200.10.15.185/24 ? If so wouldn4t I be wasting 1 IP to get to the
pix?

Albert Lu suggests using ip unnumbered eth0, on the Dialer int,
ok, then if I use 200.10.10.138/24 on eth0 on the router(ISP uses the
other 
available IP)
what other IP could I use on the pix eth0 (interface directly connected
to 
router4s eth0)?

Why wouldn4t I want to use NAT on both router and pix, and go with Kent 
Hundley suggestion?

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RE: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63498]

2003-02-21 Thread dlci dlci
I would like to thank everyone who helped out with my Pix horror picture 
show.
This has aroused some possiblities where previously I couldn4t, lets say 
"see
the trees from the forest"(or is it the other way around ;)
However this has also brought up some questions about all your suggestions.

..the story so far:
Network number: 200.10.10.136/30
So I use 200.10.10.138 255.255.255.0 since provide uses the other available 
IP

Public IPs: 200.10.15.184/29
webserver is 200.10.15.189

Ok, following Mark4s tip I would put 200.10.10.138 255.255.255.0 on Dialer 
int.
Mark then suggests "Put 200.10.15.184/29 on the Ethernet0 of the DSL 
Router..."
and "Put 200.10.15.185/29 on the PIX Outside Interface..."

umm, the IP on eth0 is my network number for public IP space, so, shouldn4t 
eth0 on router
be 200.10.15.185/24 ? If so wouldn4t I be wasting 1 IP to get to the pix?

Albert Lu suggests using ip unnumbered eth0, on the Dialer int,
ok, then if I use 200.10.10.138/24 on eth0 on the router(ISP uses the other 
available IP)
what other IP could I use on the pix eth0 (interface directly connected to 
router4s eth0)?

Why wouldn4t I want to use NAT on both router and pix, and go with Kent 
Hundley suggestion?

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RE: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

2003-02-21 Thread Albert Lu
Hi,

Ideally, you should have the 827 using 'ip unumbered' on the ADSL (dialer)
interface, so that it uses the ethernet interface as the ip address. This
will allow the outside interface of the PIX to be in the public ip address
range that you are allocated, no need for subnetting as suggestted as this
will waste IP address. Once that is done, just do your standard NAT on you
PIX with statics for your webservers etc, etc.

If that isn't possible, then will have to do NAT on the router, and put
statics on the router. The PIX will be doing no translation, so you can
either use nat0 or static (you might need both), I prefer statics.

Regards,

Albert

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Subject: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]


Hello networkers,

I am trying to "conjure up" a working config for an ADSL link with static
IPs
for a 827 series router,
these public IPs are supposed to point to, say a webserver, that sits behind
a
pix firewall
(which is directly connected to 827 router4s ethernet interface),
problem is when I try to come up with a working config. I find myself
getting into trouble.
(The catch is, I need the webserver behind that pix.)
Now this gets me using NAT twice to get a public IP from
the internet through the router past the pix and into my webserver,
I know it doesn4t sound right and obviously does not work either ;),
Any help/clue/criticisms are most welcome ;)
Ok,
What it looks like so far:


 [internet] >[router] ->[pix] ->[lan/webserver]
[827series]->[506E]--->[lan/webserver]


IP addresses:
For internet access I have 200.10.10.136 mask 255.255.255.0
Public IPs: 200.10.15.184 255.255.255.248 (for example)
Public IP for my webserver is 200.10.15.189


Router 827:
--

!
int eth0
  ip address 192.168.0.200 255.255.255.255.0
  ip nat inside
!
int atm0
  no ip address
  dsl operating-mode auto
!
int atm0.1 point-to-point
   no ip address
   pvc 0/35
pppoe-cliente dial-pool-number 1
!
int dialer1
  ip address 200.10.10.136 255.255.255.0
  ip nat outside
  dialer pool 1
!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface dialer1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.30 80 200.10.15.189 80 extendable
access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 interface dialer1
!


PIX 506E:
-

!
nameif eth0 outside security0
nameif eth1 inside security 100
!
ip address outside 192.168.0.201 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 192.168.1.21 255.255.255.0
!
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 1
!
global (outside) 1 192.168.0.202-192.168.0.248
nat (inside) 1 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0
!
name 192.168.1.30 webserver
!
static (inside,outside) 200.10.15.189 webserver
!
access-list acl_out permit tcp any host 200.10.15.189 eq 80
!
access-group acl_out in interface outside
!


Maby I am going about this the wrong way,
maby there is still hope just by tweaking my static nat translation at the
router.
If you have reached this far, thank you for your time and effort.




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RE: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

2003-02-20 Thread brett spunt
Just subnet your class c address space into 2 subnets. Make one of them
the outside of the router, and one of them on the inside of the router,
outside of pix, and just make sure your "subnetted" network has enough
addresses for inside of the router, outside of pix, pix global address,
and any static Nats to public servers on the network.

Here is the breakdown
1. Edge router does NOT perform NAT.
2. Pix performs NAT.

 NO NAT  NAT
[internet] >[router]->subnetted network [pix]
-->[lan/webserver]
[827series]->
[506E]-->[lan/webserver]

HTH,

Brett Spunt

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Subject: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

Hello networkers,

I am trying to "conjure up" a working config for an ADSL link with
static IPs
for a 827 series router,
these public IPs are supposed to point to, say a webserver, that sits
behind
a
pix firewall
(which is directly connected to 827 router4s ethernet interface),
problem is when I try to come up with a working config. I find myself
getting into trouble.
(The catch is, I need the webserver behind that pix.)
Now this gets me using NAT twice to get a public IP from
the internet through the router past the pix and into my webserver,
I know it doesn4t sound right and obviously does not work either ;),
Any help/clue/criticisms are most welcome ;)
Ok,
What it looks like so far:


 [internet] >[router] ->[pix] ->[lan/webserver]
[827series]->[506E]--->[lan/webserver]


IP addresses:
For internet access I have 200.10.10.136 mask 255.255.255.0
Public IPs: 200.10.15.184 255.255.255.248 (for example)
Public IP for my webserver is 200.10.15.189


Router 827:
--

!
int eth0
  ip address 192.168.0.200 255.255.255.255.0
  ip nat inside
!
int atm0
  no ip address
  dsl operating-mode auto
!
int atm0.1 point-to-point
   no ip address
   pvc 0/35
pppoe-cliente dial-pool-number 1
!
int dialer1
  ip address 200.10.10.136 255.255.255.0
  ip nat outside
  dialer pool 1
!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface dialer1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.30 80 200.10.15.189 80
extendable
access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 interface dialer1
!


PIX 506E:
-

!
nameif eth0 outside security0
nameif eth1 inside security 100
!
ip address outside 192.168.0.201 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 192.168.1.21 255.255.255.0
!
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 1
!
global (outside) 1 192.168.0.202-192.168.0.248
nat (inside) 1 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0
!
name 192.168.1.30 webserver
!
static (inside,outside) 200.10.15.189 webserver
!
access-list acl_out permit tcp any host 200.10.15.189 eq 80
!
access-group acl_out in interface outside
!


Maby I am going about this the wrong way,
maby there is still hope just by tweaking my static nat translation at
the
router.
If you have reached this far, thank you for your time and effort.




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RE: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

2003-02-20 Thread Mark W. Odette II
A Couple of pointers from my humble experience (granted this is also
provided from a very tired engineer that needs to go to bed :) ):

Put 200.10.10.36/30 on the Dialer Interface.  ... I think you need to be
using the VPDN Group commands to get the DSL working.  There are a
couple of ways to connect to the ISP DSLAM, i.e., Dialer Interface with
VPDN, or BVI interfaces (which is what I would expect with the scenario
you describe utilizing the ADSL interface rather than a Service Provider
DSL Modem and a PPPoE compliant Eth0 interface).

If you go with BVI interface config, then put the 200.10.10.36/30 on the
BVI interface.

Put 200.10.15.184/29 on the Ethernet0 of the DSL Router...

Put 200.10.15.185/29 on the PIX Outside Interface...

Do NAT on the PIX ONLY.

Static NAT for the Web Server with another one of those IPs in the block
you have been issued, or PAT to the Webserver with Port Redirection.

Default Route to the DSL Router on the PIX, Default Route to the
Upstream provider on the DSL Router.

Seems like a pretty straight forward config for both devices.

HTH's.

Mark
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Subject: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

Hello networkers,

I am trying to "conjure up" a working config for an ADSL link with
static IPs
for a 827 series router,
these public IPs are supposed to point to, say a webserver, that sits
behind
a
pix firewall
(which is directly connected to 827 router4s ethernet interface),
problem is when I try to come up with a working config. I find myself
getting into trouble.
(The catch is, I need the webserver behind that pix.)
Now this gets me using NAT twice to get a public IP from
the internet through the router past the pix and into my webserver,
I know it doesn4t sound right and obviously does not work either ;),
Any help/clue/criticisms are most welcome ;)
Ok,
What it looks like so far:


 [internet] >[router] ->[pix] ->[lan/webserver]
[827series]->[506E]--->[lan/webserver]


IP addresses:
For internet access I have 200.10.10.136 mask 255.255.255.0
Public IPs: 200.10.15.184 255.255.255.248 (for example)
Public IP for my webserver is 200.10.15.189


Router 827:
--

!
int eth0
  ip address 192.168.0.200 255.255.255.255.0
  ip nat inside
!
int atm0
  no ip address
  dsl operating-mode auto
!
int atm0.1 point-to-point
   no ip address
   pvc 0/35
pppoe-cliente dial-pool-number 1
!
int dialer1
  ip address 200.10.10.136 255.255.255.0
  ip nat outside
  dialer pool 1
!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface dialer1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.30 80 200.10.15.189 80
extendable
access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 interface dialer1
!


PIX 506E:
-

!
nameif eth0 outside security0
nameif eth1 inside security 100
!
ip address outside 192.168.0.201 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 192.168.1.21 255.255.255.0
!
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 1
!
global (outside) 1 192.168.0.202-192.168.0.248
nat (inside) 1 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0
!
name 192.168.1.30 webserver
!
static (inside,outside) 200.10.15.189 webserver
!
access-list acl_out permit tcp any host 200.10.15.189 eq 80
!
access-group acl_out in interface outside
!


Maby I am going about this the wrong way,
maby there is still hope just by tweaking my static nat translation at
the
router.
If you have reached this far, thank you for your time and effort.




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Re: ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

2003-02-20 Thread Kent Hundley
Change this:

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.30 80 200.10.15.189 80
extendable

to something like:

ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.0.30 80 200.10.15.189 80
extendable

-The inside from the 827's perspective needs to be something in the
192.168.0.x address space

And change this:

static (inside,outside) 200.10.15.189 webserver

to something like:

static (inside,outside) 192.168.0.30 webserver

-From the PIX's perspective, the outside address of the webserver is
going to be something in the 192.168.0.x range, just as from the 827's
perspective, 192.168.0.x is the inside range.

HTH,
Kent


On Thu, 2003-02-20 at 20:33, dlci_16 wrote:
> Hello networkers,
> 
> I am trying to "conjure up" a working config for an ADSL link with static
IPs
> for a 827 series router,
> these public IPs are supposed to point to, say a webserver, that sits
behind
> a
> pix firewall
> (which is directly connected to 827 router4s ethernet interface),
> problem is when I try to come up with a working config. I find myself
> getting into trouble.
> (The catch is, I need the webserver behind that pix.)
> Now this gets me using NAT twice to get a public IP from
> the internet through the router past the pix and into my webserver,
> I know it doesn4t sound right and obviously does not work either ;),
> Any help/clue/criticisms are most welcome ;)
> Ok,
> What it looks like so far:
> 
> 
>  [internet] >[router] ->[pix] ->[lan/webserver]
> [827series]->[506E]--->[lan/webserver]
> 
> 
> IP addresses:
> For internet access I have 200.10.10.136 mask 255.255.255.0
> Public IPs: 200.10.15.184 255.255.255.248 (for example)
> Public IP for my webserver is 200.10.15.189
> 
> 
> Router 827:
> --
> 
> !
> int eth0
>   ip address 192.168.0.200 255.255.255.255.0
>   ip nat inside
> !
> int atm0
>   no ip address
>   dsl operating-mode auto
> !
> int atm0.1 point-to-point
>no ip address
>pvc 0/35
> pppoe-cliente dial-pool-number 1
> !
> int dialer1
>   ip address 200.10.10.136 255.255.255.0
>   ip nat outside
>   dialer pool 1
> !
> ip nat inside source list 1 interface dialer1 overload
> ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.30 80 200.10.15.189 80 extendable
> access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
> !
> ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 interface dialer1
> !
> 
> 
> PIX 506E:
> -
> 
> !
> nameif eth0 outside security0
> nameif eth1 inside security 100
> !
> ip address outside 192.168.0.201 255.255.255.0
> ip address inside 192.168.1.21 255.255.255.0
> !
> route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 1
> !
> global (outside) 1 192.168.0.202-192.168.0.248
> nat (inside) 1 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0
> !
> name 192.168.1.30 webserver
> !
> static (inside,outside) 200.10.15.189 webserver
> !
> access-list acl_out permit tcp any host 200.10.15.189 eq 80
> !
> access-group acl_out in interface outside
> !
> 
> 
> Maby I am going about this the wrong way,
> maby there is still hope just by tweaking my static nat translation at the
> router.
> If you have reached this far, thank you for your time and effort.




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ADSL and PIX puzzle [7:63458]

2003-02-20 Thread dlci_16
Hello networkers,

I am trying to "conjure up" a working config for an ADSL link with static IPs
for a 827 series router,
these public IPs are supposed to point to, say a webserver, that sits behind
a
pix firewall
(which is directly connected to 827 router4s ethernet interface),
problem is when I try to come up with a working config. I find myself
getting into trouble.
(The catch is, I need the webserver behind that pix.)
Now this gets me using NAT twice to get a public IP from
the internet through the router past the pix and into my webserver,
I know it doesn4t sound right and obviously does not work either ;),
Any help/clue/criticisms are most welcome ;)
Ok,
What it looks like so far:


 [internet] >[router] ->[pix] ->[lan/webserver]
[827series]->[506E]--->[lan/webserver]


IP addresses:
For internet access I have 200.10.10.136 mask 255.255.255.0
Public IPs: 200.10.15.184 255.255.255.248 (for example)
Public IP for my webserver is 200.10.15.189


Router 827:
--

!
int eth0
  ip address 192.168.0.200 255.255.255.255.0
  ip nat inside
!
int atm0
  no ip address
  dsl operating-mode auto
!
int atm0.1 point-to-point
   no ip address
   pvc 0/35
pppoe-cliente dial-pool-number 1
!
int dialer1
  ip address 200.10.10.136 255.255.255.0
  ip nat outside
  dialer pool 1
!
ip nat inside source list 1 interface dialer1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.1.30 80 200.10.15.189 80 extendable
access-list 1 permit 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.255
!
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 interface dialer1
!


PIX 506E:
-

!
nameif eth0 outside security0
nameif eth1 inside security 100
!
ip address outside 192.168.0.201 255.255.255.0
ip address inside 192.168.1.21 255.255.255.0
!
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.200 1
!
global (outside) 1 192.168.0.202-192.168.0.248
nat (inside) 1 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0
!
name 192.168.1.30 webserver
!
static (inside,outside) 200.10.15.189 webserver
!
access-list acl_out permit tcp any host 200.10.15.189 eq 80
!
access-group acl_out in interface outside
!


Maby I am going about this the wrong way,
maby there is still hope just by tweaking my static nat translation at the
router.
If you have reached this far, thank you for your time and effort.




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Re: Question of design (2 ADSL load balanced & VPN) [7:60630]

2003-01-12 Thread Amar
i know it can be done with Multilink through a virtual template with ppp,
not sure for dsl.

 a icrit dans le message de news:
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> I've got a remote location with two ADSL lines terminating on a 2620, each
> line has a separate subnet of legal IPs.  Connected to the 2620 is a PIX.
> I'd like to setup a VPN from this location to our central location.  I'd
> also like to load balance the two DSL lines (I was thinking CEF).
>
> Question:
> Would it be wise to create two tunnels on each interface to the router and
> use a private network from the ethernet of the router back  Or
terminate
> the VPN on the PIX and carry a public IP to the outside interface of the
> PIX?  (my concern with the latter is utilization of both DSL lines
equally).
>
>
> ---
> \
> Internet router--pix---
> /
> ---
>
>
> Thanks,
> Mike J.




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Question of design (2 ADSL load balanced & VPN) [7:60630]

2003-01-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I've got a remote location with two ADSL lines terminating on a 2620, each
line has a separate subnet of legal IPs.  Connected to the 2620 is a PIX.
I'd like to setup a VPN from this location to our central location.  I'd
also like to load balance the two DSL lines (I was thinking CEF).

Question: 
Would it be wise to create two tunnels on each interface to the router and
use a private network from the ethernet of the router back  Or terminate
the VPN on the PIX and carry a public IP to the outside interface of the
PIX?  (my concern with the latter is utilization of both DSL lines equally).


---
\
Internetrouter--pix---
/
---


Thanks,
Mike J.




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Re: ADSL QUESTION with 3600/2600 routers [7:59805]

2002-12-26 Thread Brian
Depends on whether the primary motive is cost or reliability, and where this
is at geographically.  Typically business class dsl is pricier but more
reliable, and dsl offerings vary by region/country.  In the US, I like to
refer people to www.dslreports.com to see what they qualify for.  Speakeasy
has a hi quality product.

Brian

- Original Message -
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To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: ADSL QUESTION with 3600/2600 routers [7:59805]


> Hi All  Long time no speak hope everyone is having a blessed Christmas
I've
> a Client who has a WAN network comprising of a Cisco 3660(centre) &
> several 2600's (currently each WAN link is a 256k lease line, each line
> will soon  be upgraded to  LES10 Circuits). The client has ISDN backup on
> all their sites but are  looking to replace this with  a ADSL Solution.
What
> is the best ADSL Solution  should I recommend for my client.Many
> Thanks  Simon.
>
> 
>
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Re: ADSL QUESTION with 3600/2600 routers [7:59805]

2002-12-26 Thread The Long and Winding Road
""Simon Watson""  wrote in message
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> Hi All  Long time no speak hope everyone is having a blessed Christmas
I've
> a Client who has a WAN network comprising of a Cisco 3660(centre) &
> several 2600's (currently each WAN link is a 256k lease line, each line
> will soon  be upgraded to  LES10 Circuits). The client has ISDN backup on
> all their sites but are  looking to replace this with  a ADSL Solution.
What
> is the best ADSL Solution  should I recommend for my client.Many
> Thanks  Simon.

!) what versions or varieties of DSL is available for each of your client
sites? Gotta check with the telco.

2) what is the nature of the data flow? I.e. distributed? centralized? mix
of both?

3) once you know the answers to both of these items, then you can start
looking at a design. In some cases, you might want to terminate the DSL on a
WIC card on the router. In other cases you might want a standalone DSL
router.

PS. in some areas you can terminate DSL to an ATM circuit at the central
site. this might be a solution worth examining, as well. that way, your data
does not touch the internet, and you don't have to bring VPN's into the mix.







>
> 
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ADSL QUESTION with 3600/2600 routers [7:59805]

2002-12-26 Thread Simon Watson
Hi All  Long time no speak hope everyone is having a blessed Christmas I've
a Client who has a WAN network comprising of a Cisco 3660(centre) &
several 2600's (currently each WAN link is a 256k lease line, each line
will soon  be upgraded to  LES10 Circuits). The client has ISDN backup on
all their sites but are  looking to replace this with  a ADSL Solution. What
is the best ADSL Solution  should I recommend for my client.Many
Thanks  Simon.  



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ADSL problem [7:59776]

2002-12-23 Thread Metla Venu Gopal
I have got three sites. 
Scenario Explanation :

SIte A has a 1721 router with a ADSL connection. It has a ATM module 
and a ethernet 10/100 port. Ethernet port is connected to the LAN. 

SIte B and SIte c has 801 routers with a ISDN module and LAN module. 
Onthe ISDN DSL is configured. VPN connection is used to transfer 
data across.


Problem:  
>From site B there is excellent ping of less than 112ms to the site A.
Now when a computer in site B tries to establish VPN connectivity to 
a server in Site A it takes more than 5 minutes to come up.  the 
config is checked and its fine in both the routers. can someody tell 
me the problem.
thnz
nerdv


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Re: ADSL Vs. SDSL [7:54909]

2002-10-07 Thread John Hutchison

We do use Verizon as well as several others. It IS possible to have ADSL
with the same up and down. SDSL isn't be definition just the same
bi-directional throughput speed. I have with Verizon as well as SWB ADSL
customers who get the same up and down speed. They are, however, still held
by the limits of ADSL. IE wire distance from the telco.




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Re: ADSL Vs. SDSL [7:54909]

2002-10-04 Thread Robert Edmonds

The information afterwards is not my words.  I got it off of
www.examnotes.net.  It was written by a guy that frequents their forums who
works in the telecom industry, doing work related to WAN type installations,
including DSL.  Here's what he said about the subject:

ADSL. Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line. A term for one-way T1 transmission
of signals to the home over the plain old, single twisted-pair wiring already
going to homes. ADSL modems attach to twisted pair copper wiring. ADSL is
often provisioned with greater downstream than upstream rates (hence
"asymmetric"). These rates are dependent on the distance a user is from the
central office and may vary from as high as 9 Mbps to as low as 384 Kbps.
HDSL. High bit-rate Digital Subscriber Line. The oldest of the DSL
technologies, HDSL continues to be used by telephone companies deploying T1
lines at 1.5 Mbps and requires two twisted pairs.
IDSL. ISDN Digital Subscriber Line. IDSL provides up to 144-Kbps transfer
rates in each direction and can be provisioned on any ISDN capable phone
line.
Unlike ADSL and other DSL technologies, IDSL can be deployed regardless of
the
distance the user is from the central office.
RADSL. Rate Adaptive Digital Subscriber Line. Using modified ADSL software,
RADSL makes it possible for modems automatically and dynamically to adjust
their transmission speeds. This often allows for good data rates for
customers
residing greater distances from the CO.
SDSL. Single-line Digital Subscriber Line or Symmetric Digital Subscriber
Line. A modified HDSL software technology, SDSL is intended to provide 1.5
Mbps in both directions over a single twisted pair. However, the distance
over
which this can be achieved is less than 8,000 feet.
VDSL. Very high-rate Digital Subscriber Line. The newest of the DSL
technologies, VDSL can offer speeds up to 25 Mbps downstream and 3 Mbps
upstream. Similar to SDSL, the gain in speed can be achieved only at short
distances. These maximum speeds can be achieved only up to 1,000 feet.
Sometimes also called broadband digital subscriber line (BDSL).
xDSL. A generic term for the suite of digital subscriber line (DSL) services,
where the "x" can be replaced with any of a number of letters. See also DSL,
ADSL, HDSL, IDSL, MDSL, RADSL, SDSL, VDSL.


""Brian Zeitz""  wrote in message
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> I have 2 Verizon DSL lines, one is 1.5M down/128k up. The second is
> 768k/768k up and down. They both have dynamic IPs. My question is; Are
> these
> both ADSL lines? My boss thinkins the one 768k/768k is SDSL. I dont
> think it
> is, first of all, both lines have the same modem. If the one like was
> ADSL,
> and the other was SDSL there would be a different kind of modem. Or does
> SDSL require a modem at all? These are both Verizon lines, but i am
> confused
> on the naming. On my order it says they are both ADSL lines. Any input
> would
> be appreciated, is my boss right, or am I right?
>
>
>
> According to verizon's website ( I don't take this as the final word
> however)
>
>
>
> What is the difference between DSL technologies such as SDSL, ADSL,
> IDSL, etc.?
>
> Most small businesses are connected to an asymmetric (ADSL) line. ADSL
> matches the Internet utilization of most users by providing higher
> downstream capacity for browsing or downloading. Symmetric DSL (SDSL)
> is a variation of ADSL, but provides the user with the same speed for
> both downstream and upstream applications. Verizon Online Business DSL
> portfolio of DSL speeds provides our Business customers with solutions
> that meet their specific Internet application needs.
>
>
>
> Ok that being said, why can i use the same modem on the ADSL line and
> the SDSL line. Why do they make specific
>
> modems for SDSL if they are both the same technology?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Brian




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ADSL Vs. SDSL [7:54909]

2002-10-04 Thread Brian Zeitz

I have 2 Verizon DSL lines, one is 1.5M down/128k up. The second is
768k/768k up and down. They both have dynamic IPs. My question is; Are
these
both ADSL lines? My boss thinkins the one 768k/768k is SDSL. I dont
think it
is, first of all, both lines have the same modem. If the one like was
ADSL,
and the other was SDSL there would be a different kind of modem. Or does
SDSL require a modem at all? These are both Verizon lines, but i am
confused
on the naming. On my order it says they are both ADSL lines. Any input
would
be appreciated, is my boss right, or am I right?



According to verizon's website ( I don't take this as the final word
however)



What is the difference between DSL technologies such as SDSL, ADSL,
IDSL, etc.?

Most small businesses are connected to an asymmetric (ADSL) line. ADSL
matches the Internet utilization of most users by providing higher
downstream capacity for browsing or downloading. Symmetric DSL (SDSL)
is a variation of ADSL, but provides the user with the same speed for
both downstream and upstream applications. Verizon Online Business DSL
portfolio of DSL speeds provides our Business customers with solutions
that meet their specific Internet application needs.



Ok that being said, why can i use the same modem on the ADSL line and
the SDSL line. Why do they make specific

modems for SDSL if they are both the same technology?



Thanks,



Brian




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Re: Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]

2002-09-26 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp

Mark W. Odette II wrote:

> If you don't do the WIC-1ADSL, you will need the ISP's DSL modem, and a
> 1700 or 2600 series router with the WIC-1ENET module (supports PPPoE if
> needed).
> 
> The WIC-1ENET seems to be compatible with most DSL implementations...
> but you also can get away with any Cisco router that the IOS supports
> PPPoE (I think 12.2.2 and up, but maybe 12.1.5T... check Feature
> Navigator for more details).

Careful with that. The WIC-1ENET is only supported in the 1700; not in 
the 2600 series, last I looked.

Regards,

Marco.




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RE: Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]

2002-09-26 Thread Mark W. Odette II

Guy- I don't know if there are any specific restrictions, but ADSL is
ADSL from what I've experienced.

You just have to work with the ISP to ensure you are both on the same
page about VPI/VCI parameters, and whether or not you need to activate
bridging on the router to translate the ATM packets to Ethernet.

Beyond that, it should be a piece of cake... but no guarantees.  The
1700 & 2600 series routers have a WIC that should work for you
(WIC-1ADSL)(which means you won't need the ISP's "DSL Modem".

If you don't do the WIC-1ADSL, you will need the ISP's DSL modem, and a
1700 or 2600 series router with the WIC-1ENET module (supports PPPoE if
needed).

The WIC-1ENET seems to be compatible with most DSL implementations...
but you also can get away with any Cisco router that the IOS supports
PPPoE (I think 12.2.2 and up, but maybe 12.1.5T... check Feature
Navigator for more details).

Also note that, in my experience, if you are being assigned a block of
IP's, then the PPPoE is a non-issue, and you don't usually have to
configure the VPDN parameters on the router rather you just treat it
like a P-t-P connection, and assign your ip addy to the Ethernet
interface, etc., etc.

Hope this helps.

Mark
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From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 2:56 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]

Ok, not the 806 because that is dual Ethernet, should have checked the
product description more carefully.  Does anyone know if Cisco sells an
ADSL
router that will work with Covad's ADSL service?

-Original Message-
From: Lupi, Guy 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]


Does anyone know if this ADSL router is compatible with Covad's ADSL
service?  Couldn't find it on Cisco's website.  Thanks.

Guy H. Lupi




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RE: Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]

2002-09-20 Thread Lupi, Guy

Ok, not the 806 because that is dual Ethernet, should have checked the
product description more carefully.  Does anyone know if Cisco sells an ADSL
router that will work with Covad's ADSL service?

-Original Message-
From: Lupi, Guy 
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 12:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]


Does anyone know if this ADSL router is compatible with Covad's ADSL
service?  Couldn't find it on Cisco's website.  Thanks.

Guy H. Lupi




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Cisco 806 ADSL Router and Covad [7:53724]

2002-09-20 Thread Lupi, Guy

Does anyone know if this ADSL router is compatible with Covad's ADSL
service?  Couldn't find it on Cisco's website.  Thanks.

Guy H. Lupi




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Re: Multilink PPPOE on ADSL [7:53473]

2002-09-17 Thread Stephane Litkowski

I think I was wrong, the problem is not the DSLAM, but the BAS ... so does
the BAS support this ?


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> Hi all,
>
> Does someone (especially in France) try to aggregate two ADSL lines using
> Multilink PPPoE ?
> Does Cisco PPPoE client support this ? Does Freebsd support this ? Does
the
> DSLAMs (in France) support this feature ?
>
> Thanks for help,
>
> Stephane Litkowski




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Multilink PPPOE on ADSL [7:53473]

2002-09-17 Thread Stephane Litkowski

Hi all,

Does someone (especially in France) try to aggregate two ADSL lines using
Multilink PPPoE ?
Does Cisco PPPoE client support this ? Does Freebsd support this ? Does the
DSLAMs (in France) support this feature ?

Thanks for help,

Stephane Litkowski




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RE: ADSL Link [7:52978]

2002-09-10 Thread Jason Weden

Rarely is DSL used in a dedicated point-to-point manner...though it is
possible on a large campus between buildings.  Most ADSL connections are
akin to a T1 line between you and your provider since you have, more or
less, a dedicated copper run between your house/business and your service
provider's DSLAM.  Once it hits the edge of your service provider cloud, the
copper goes into the DSLAM and out a high-speed connection (OC3, DS3, etc)
to an access concentrator.  From the access concentrator, it traverses the
service provider's backbone this is why ADSL is more accurately described as
a packet-switched connection.  Since ATM is at layer 2 think of ATM
connections (an example of a packet switched connection) except remember
that now the ATM can traverse your copper phone lines.  Finally, the traffic
will hit other autonomous systems (the Internet) from your provider's
backbone.

Regards,

Jason


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RE: ADSL Link [7:52978]

2002-09-10 Thread Haakon Claassen (hclaasse)

Hi 

ADSL (assym Digital subscriber line) is used to deliver high rate data
over ordinary phonelines. A new modulation technique called DMT Discrete
multitone allows the hight speed
ADSL facilitates the simultaneous use of normal phones ervisces ISDN and
high speed transmissions

ADSL can also run over future fibre cabels.


 
Haakon Claassen
EMEA - IT Transport Services -WAN
 
Cisco Systems
De Kleetlaan 6b - Pegasus Park
B-1831 Diegem (Belgium)
 
 

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Subject: ADSL Link [7:52978]

Can someone tell me

What you call ADSL link? Is is it known as Dedicated  line (like lease
line)
?

Thanks

ashok




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ADSL Link [7:52978]

2002-09-10 Thread Ashok C Braganza

Can someone tell me

What you call ADSL link? Is is it known as Dedicated  line (like lease line)
?

Thanks

ashok




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Re: ADSL routers [7:51250]

2002-08-15 Thread Charlie Wehner

the 827 can do many things, including 3DES and firewall feature set, but
supports only RIP and EIGRP

-->No fair, mine doesn't support EIGRP.  Only RIP.  The 827 looks like it
supports all of the routing protocols but when you enter them it always
reads "unknown routing protocol".  (Except for RIP.)


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RE: ADSL routers [7:51250]

2002-08-13 Thread Mark W. Odette II

Cisco 1751 with ADSL WIC is the least expensive choice.  If you play
your cards right, you could pick one up on Ebay WITH the DSP chip
included so that you could also play around with Voice Shtuff!

Granted your port density isn't the greatest, but the NM-xx is quite
expensive just to add extra functionality.

If you don't care about voice, and other flexible options down the road,
a 1720 with an ADSL WIC will also do just fine.

HTHs,
Mark Odette II


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Subject: ADSL routers [7:51250]

Can anyone suggest a good router to get for ADSL? I want to utilize a
full IOS, and not a dumbed down version. Or should I just go with a 2600
with an ADSL card. This firewall will be for a home connection, but I am
the type to mess around with the routers, try to do different things
with Pix firewalls, security, servers and whatnot.  I know netgear
routers work well for some people, but I want to use my router as
something functional and as educational at the same time. What would be
the cheapest way to go for an ADSL router, with full IOS capabilities.



Thanks in advance




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Re: ADSL routers [7:51250]

2002-08-12 Thread Chuck's Long Road

define "full"

the 827 can do many things, including 3DES and firewall feature set, but
supports only RIP and EIGRP. no fun finding that out the hard way. :->

I like your idea about the 26xx with the DSL WIC. I've used the DSL WICs in
production for customer networks ( on the 1720 series ) and have been quite
pleased, except for that one hardware failure in Fresno. And Cisco TAC
identified the problem as hardware and replaced the card very quickly
indeed.

Chuck

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> Can anyone suggest a good router to get for ADSL? I want to utilize a
> full IOS, and not a dumbed down version. Or should I just go with a 2600
> with an ADSL card. This firewall will be for a home connection, but I am
> the type to mess around with the routers, try to do different things
> with Pix firewalls, security, servers and whatnot.  I know netgear
> routers work well for some people, but I want to use my router as
> something functional and as educational at the same time. What would be
> the cheapest way to go for an ADSL router, with full IOS capabilities.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance




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ADSL routers [7:51250]

2002-08-12 Thread Brian Zeitz

Can anyone suggest a good router to get for ADSL? I want to utilize a
full IOS, and not a dumbed down version. Or should I just go with a 2600
with an ADSL card. This firewall will be for a home connection, but I am
the type to mess around with the routers, try to do different things
with Pix firewalls, security, servers and whatnot.  I know netgear
routers work well for some people, but I want to use my router as
something functional and as educational at the same time. What would be
the cheapest way to go for an ADSL router, with full IOS capabilities.



Thanks in advance




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RE: ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]

2002-07-31 Thread Brian Zeitz

What OS is he using? XP has the PPPoE stuff built in it. Just like you
add a dial up connection, you can add a ADSL connection.

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Subject: ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]

I have been setting up a DSL connection for a home user, but he is
currently
unable to reach ANY website. I am able to ping IP addresses of servers
on
the internet and get a reply. But, neither IE nor Netscape is able to
reach
a single page (via IP or Name).

The DHCP servers gives his adapter an IP address and gateway of the same
address. The subnet is a /24. He is using the PPPoE adapter and no
router or
firewall exists at his site. I hardcoded the DNS server addresses to
ensure
DNS name resolution, but this did not fix anything.

If you have any recommendations please reply. This should be a simple
task
to complete, but obviously I am missing something.

Thanks




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RE: PPPOE/ADSL on a PIX [7:50133]

2002-07-31 Thread Barret Stephane (TAK)

I am running it on a cisco 515 UR with a 4-ethernet extension without any
problems.


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I know 6.2(2) supports PPPoE, but has anyone successfully used it on a
PIX 515 or any other model Pix? The documentation says it only is
supported on the 506 and 501.




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PPPOE/ADSL on a PIX [7:50133]

2002-07-30 Thread Brian Zeitz

I know 6.2(2) supports PPPoE, but has anyone successfully used it on a
PIX 515 or any other model Pix? The documentation says it only is
supported on the 506 and 501.




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RE: ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]

2002-07-29 Thread Rik Guyler

Chances are this is NOT a DNS issue.  Try to PING www.cisco.com by name and
see if you get name resolution.  If you resolve the name to an address then
DNS is not at fault here.

I believe that your issue is more likely caused by an MTU problem.  PPPOE
requires 8 bytes of overhead and so your MTU now must be set to 1492 or
less.  The reason you can PING anything you want to is that your IP stack
will typically use a small transmission size for ICMP (PING) by default.
You can test this by typing "ping /?" on a Windows host to get the correct
syntax and then change the transmission size to 1500 and see if the PING
still works like it did. 

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Subject: ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]


I have been setting up a DSL connection for a home user, but he is currently
unable to reach ANY website. I am able to ping IP addresses of servers on
the internet and get a reply. But, neither IE nor Netscape is able to reach
a single page (via IP or Name).

The DHCP servers gives his adapter an IP address and gateway of the same
address. The subnet is a /24. He is using the PPPoE adapter and no router or
firewall exists at his site. I hardcoded the DNS server addresses to ensure
DNS name resolution, but this did not fix anything.

If you have any recommendations please reply. This should be a simple task
to complete, but obviously I am missing something.

Thanks




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Re: ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]

2002-07-29 Thread Robert D. Cluett

Be sure that he is allowing the DNS port through on the DSL router.
""Derrick Monahan""  wrote in message
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> I have been setting up a DSL connection for a home user, but he is
currently
> unable to reach ANY website. I am able to ping IP addresses of servers on
> the internet and get a reply. But, neither IE nor Netscape is able to
reach
> a single page (via IP or Name).
>
> The DHCP servers gives his adapter an IP address and gateway of the same
> address. The subnet is a /24. He is using the PPPoE adapter and no router
or
> firewall exists at his site. I hardcoded the DNS server addresses to
ensure
> DNS name resolution, but this did not fix anything.
>
> If you have any recommendations please reply. This should be a simple task
> to complete, but obviously I am missing something.
>
> Thanks




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ADSL - unable to reach URL's [7:50068]

2002-07-29 Thread Derrick Monahan

I have been setting up a DSL connection for a home user, but he is currently
unable to reach ANY website. I am able to ping IP addresses of servers on
the internet and get a reply. But, neither IE nor Netscape is able to reach
a single page (via IP or Name).

The DHCP servers gives his adapter an IP address and gateway of the same
address. The subnet is a /24. He is using the PPPoE adapter and no router or
firewall exists at his site. I hardcoded the DNS server addresses to ensure
DNS name resolution, but this did not fix anything.

If you have any recommendations please reply. This should be a simple task
to complete, but obviously I am missing something.

Thanks


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Re: LAN(ADSL) to LAN(ADSL) VPN Router Config [7:47085]

2002-06-20 Thread itsme

Here is a "in production" example of a 2610 one static Internet IP
using a split-tunnel to a dynamic IP 1720 with basically
the same config; except the ip on the dialer is "ip address negotiated".

-TV

hostname 2610
!
!
!
clock timezone EST -5
clock summer-time EST recurring
ip subnet-zero
no ip source-route
no ip rcmd domain-lookup
!
!
!
no ip bootp server
ip ssh time-out 120
ip ssh authentication-retries 3
vpdn enable
!
vpdn-group pppoe
 request-dialin
  protocol pppoe
!
!
crypto isakmp policy 1
 hash md5
 authentication pre-share
crypto isakmp key whatever address 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
!
!
crypto ipsec transform-set dynamictunnel esp-des esp-md5-hmac
crypto mib ipsec flowmib history tunnel size 200
crypto mib ipsec flowmib history failure size 200
!
crypto dynamic-map br1map 10
 set transform-set dynamictunnel
 match address 125
!
!
crypto map maptrans 10 ipsec-isakmp dynamic br1map
!
!
interface ATM0/0
 description dsl interface
 no ip address
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 atm voice aal2 aggregate-svc upspeed-number 0
 bundle-enable
 dsl operating-mode auto
 no fair-queue
 hold-queue 224 in
!
interface ATM0/0.1 point-to-point
 pvc 0/35
 pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
 !
!
interface Ethernet0/0
 description inside Main Network
 ip address 192.168.28.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip redirects
 ip nat inside
 half-duplex
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
 description Internet IP via pppoe and dsl
 ip address Inetaddress 255.255.255.0
 ip access-group 180 in
 ip mtu 1492
 ip nat outside
 encapsulation ppp
 dialer pool 1
 no cdp enable
 ppp authentication pap callin
 ppp chap password 7 blahblah
 ppp pap sent-username blah password 7 blalalla
 crypto map maptrans
!
ip nat inside source route-map nonat interface Dialer0 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 192.168.28.250 25 Inetaddress 25 extendable
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer0
no ip http server
ip pim bidir-enable
!
access-list 125 permit ip 192.168.28.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.30.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 130 deny   ip 192.168.28.0 0.0.0.255 192.168.30.0 0.0.0.255
access-list 130 permit ip 192.168.28.0 0.0.0.255 any
access-list 180 permit ip 192.168.30.0 0.0.1.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   ip 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   ip 172.16.0.0 0.15.255.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   ip 10.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   ip 127.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   ip 255.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   ip 224.0.0.0 7.255.255.255 any log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq ident log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq 135 log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq 137 log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq 138 log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq 139 log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq 135 log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq netbios-ns log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq netbios-dgm log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq netbios-ss log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq 161 log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq snmp log
access-list 180 deny   tcp any any eq 162 log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq snmptrap log
access-list 180 permit udp host 128.118.25.3 eq ntp any log
access-list 180 deny   udp any any eq ntp log
access-list 180 permit ip any any log
no cdp run
!
route-map nonat permit 10
 match ip address 130
!

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>
> I have been trying to search CCO and the archives( think the links are
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> at the moment) for a IpSec VPN LAN (1720 with ADSL) to LAN (1720 with
ADSL)
> router configuration using Pre-share keys.  Can someone post or point
where
> I can find this specfic configuration.  I have not configured a ADSL
> interface and would like to understand this better.
>
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LAN(ADSL) to LAN(ADSL) VPN Router Config [7:47085]

2002-06-20 Thread KM Reynolds

Hi all,

I have been trying to search CCO and the archives( think the links are down 
at the moment) for a IpSec VPN LAN (1720 with ADSL) to LAN (1720 with ADSL) 
router configuration using Pre-share keys.  Can someone post or point where 
I can find this specfic configuration.  I have not configured a ADSL 
interface and would like to understand this better.

K Reynolds

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Re: ppp multilink over adsl????? [7:44704]

2002-05-22 Thread Chuck

I heard someplace, maybe on this list, about using "dry pair" for DSL
connections between two points. Attach a DSL device like an 827 at each end
and voila! In such a case, I wonder. Especially now that you can create a
virtual multilink interface, rather than have to go through the old virtual
template method.  Why not?


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> I think your correct.  Most people that have DSL terminate at a
> provider and I know of no providers that provide DSL-ppp-multilink.  We
> do have several customers that do control both sides, use DSL for
> employee remote access and some use it for backup but again none have
> tried the multilink but I suspect it's possible.
>
>   Dave
>
> Michael Williams wrote:
> >
> > I'm going to hazzard a guess here and see what others think of my
> theory.
> >
> > For PPP Multilink to work you need it enabled at both ends. with
> > point-to-point T1s or ISDN this isn't a problem because you (usually)
> > control both ends But with ADSL, you only control one end (unless
this
> > is the wierd point-to-point DSL that's being offered that I've just
never
> > heard of).  So I don't think this would be possible, because your
DSL
> > provider would treat each connection separately (attempt to give an IP,
> > etc)..
> >
> > Anyone's thoughts?
> >
> > Mike W.
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Re: ppp multilink over adsl????? [7:44704]

2002-05-22 Thread MADMAN

I think your correct.  Most people that have DSL terminate at a
provider and I know of no providers that provide DSL-ppp-multilink.  We
do have several customers that do control both sides, use DSL for
employee remote access and some use it for backup but again none have
tried the multilink but I suspect it's possible.

  Dave

Michael Williams wrote:
> 
> I'm going to hazzard a guess here and see what others think of my
theory.
> 
> For PPP Multilink to work you need it enabled at both ends. with
> point-to-point T1s or ISDN this isn't a problem because you (usually)
> control both ends But with ADSL, you only control one end (unless this
> is the wierd point-to-point DSL that's being offered that I've just never
> heard of).  So I don't think this would be possible, because your DSL
> provider would treat each connection separately (attempt to give an IP,
> etc)..
> 
> Anyone's thoughts?
> 
> Mike W.
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RE: ppp multilink over adsl????? [7:44704]

2002-05-22 Thread Michael Williams

I'm going to hazzard a guess here and see what others think of my theory.

For PPP Multilink to work you need it enabled at both ends. with
point-to-point T1s or ISDN this isn't a problem because you (usually)
control both ends But with ADSL, you only control one end (unless this
is the wierd point-to-point DSL that's being offered that I've just never
heard of).  So I don't think this would be possible, because your DSL
provider would treat each connection separately (attempt to give an IP,
etc)..

Anyone's thoughts?

Mike W.


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ppp multilink over adsl????? [7:44704]

2002-05-22 Thread George Siaw

Guys,

Will anybody know is ppp multilink is possible over an adsl link and
does it work similar to isdn?

Regards,
George.




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RE: Pix 515 on ADSL Help! :) [7:44346]

2002-05-17 Thread Mark Odette II

Brian,

add the following to your config, and then try your pings again.
---
PIX#(config) conduit permit icmp any any
---
I believe your PPPoE connection is working, as proof from your output below:

>>PPPoE Tunnel and Session Information (Total tunnels=1 sessions=1)
>>  Tunnel id 0, 1 active sessions
>>  time since change 6015 secs
>>  Remote MAC Address 00:00:00:xx
>>  1010 packets sent, 1023 received, 12641 bytes sent, 0 received
>>  Remote MAC is 00:00:
>>Session state is SESSION_UP
>>  Time since event change 7687 secs, interface outside
>>  PPP interface id is 1
>>  1010 packets sent, 1023 received, 12641 bytes sent, 0 received

HTHs,
Mark
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Subject: Pix 515 on ADSL Help! :) [7:44346]


Well, I upgraded my pix 515 to 6.2. I am kind of new to firewalls,
besides I can't use the PDM. "This version of PDM does not officially
support PIX 6.2(1). Please upgrade PDM.", I guess this is a good reason
to learn the command line in pix. I cant ping  theISPs DNS servers from
the PDM. Any way to test if my Username and password is working for ADSL
?



 My ISP (verizon, requires a U/P for PPPoE, I am not sure if it is
accepting the password. The modem lights are all green.



Anyhow, it's saying UP/UP, and I have the link up, but I am not sure how
to check if my PPPOE password is working. I am using CHAP, maybe this is
not right.

I donno, it looks like its working, but I cant get outside, even if I
use the DHCP Server feature. I am also wondering if failover is going to
work with ADSL, which is another issue. Keep in mind I am not sure if
the 515 will even work with ADSL as someone pointed out, it may not be
supported although I am running Pix 6.2(1)



My question is how can I test that my PPPoE required Username and
password are correct, and I am authenticated. I am now working on
getting Debug PPPoE to see maybe if I can find out if this is working.
Any pointers would be helpful.





mydev# show vpdn username

vpdn username vez2bxe password 





mydev# show vpdn group verz1

vpdn group verz1 request dialout pppoe

vpdn group verz1 localname vez2vbxe

vpdn group verz1 ppp authentication chap



mydev# show vpdn pppinterface



PPP virtual interface id = 1

PPP authentication protocol is CHAP

Server ip address is 10.10.26.10

Our ip address is 151.22.13.12

Transmitted Pkts: 1096, Received Pkts: 1109, Error Pkts: 0

MPPE key strength is None

  MPPE_Encrypt_Pkts: 0,  MPPE_Encrypt_Bytes: 0

  MPPE_Decrypt_Pkts: 0,  MPPE_Decrypt_Bytes: 0

  Rcvd_Out_Of_Seq_MPPE_Pkts: 0







mydev(config)# show int e0

interface ethernet0 "outside" is up, line protocol is up

  Hardware is i82559 ethernet, address is 0.000.

  IP address 151.22.13.13, subnet mask 255.255.255.255

  MTU 1492 bytes, BW 1 Kbit half duplex

1410 packets input, 84908 bytes, 0 no buffer

Received 464 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants

0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort

1305 packets output, 272926 bytes, 0 underruns

0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets

0 babbles, 0 late collisions, 0 deferred

1 lost carrier, 0 no carrier

input queue (curr/max blocks): hardware (128/128) software (0/1)

output queue (curr/max blocks): hardware (0/1) software (0/1)

vesdev.com(config)#







mydev# show vpdn





%No active L2TP tunnels





%No active PPTP tunnels





PPPoE Tunnel and Session Information (Total tunnels=1 sessions=1)





Tunnel id 0, 1 active sessions

  time since change 6015 secs

  Remote MAC Address 00:00:00:xx

  1010 packets sent, 1023 received, 12641 bytes sent, 0 received

Remote MAC is 00:00:

  Session state is SESSION_UP

Time since event change 7687 secs, interface outside

PPP interface id is 1

1010 packets sent, 1023 received, 12641 bytes sent, 0 received





usage: debug pppoe {error|packet|event}

Usage:  [no] debug icmp trace

[no] debug packet  [src  [netmask ]]

[dst  [netmask ]]

[[proto icmp]|[proto tcp [sport ] [dport ]]

|[proto udp [sport ] [dport d_p]] [rx|tx|both]

[no] debug sqlnet

[no] debug crypto ipsec|isakmp|ca

[no] debug dhcpc detail|error|packet

[no] debug dhcpd event|packet

[no] debug vpdn error|event|packet

[no] debug ppp error|io|uauth|chap|upap|negotiation

[no] debug pppoe error|packet|event

[no] debug ssh

[no] debug h323 h225|h245|ras asn|event

[no] debug fover

[no] debug rtsp

[no] debug fixup

[no] debug rip

[no] debug pdm history

[no] debug ssl [cipher|device]

[no] debug dns

[no] debug sip

   

Pix 515 on ADSL Help! :) [7:44346]

2002-05-17 Thread Brian Zeitz

Well, I upgraded my pix 515 to 6.2. I am kind of new to firewalls,
besides I can't use the PDM. "This version of PDM does not officially
support PIX 6.2(1). Please upgrade PDM.", I guess this is a good reason
to learn the command line in pix. I cant ping  theISPs DNS servers from
the PDM. Any way to test if my Username and password is working for ADSL
?



 My ISP (verizon, requires a U/P for PPPoE, I am not sure if it is
accepting the password. The modem lights are all green.



Anyhow, it's saying UP/UP, and I have the link up, but I am not sure how
to check if my PPPOE password is working. I am using CHAP, maybe this is
not right.

I donno, it looks like its working, but I cant get outside, even if I
use the DHCP Server feature. I am also wondering if failover is going to
work with ADSL, which is another issue. Keep in mind I am not sure if
the 515 will even work with ADSL as someone pointed out, it may not be
supported although I am running Pix 6.2(1)



My question is how can I test that my PPPoE required Username and
password are correct, and I am authenticated. I am now working on
getting Debug PPPoE to see maybe if I can find out if this is working.
Any pointers would be helpful.





mydev# show vpdn username

vpdn username vez2bxe password 





mydev# show vpdn group verz1

vpdn group verz1 request dialout pppoe

vpdn group verz1 localname vez2vbxe

vpdn group verz1 ppp authentication chap



mydev# show vpdn pppinterface



PPP virtual interface id = 1

PPP authentication protocol is CHAP

Server ip address is 10.10.26.10

Our ip address is 151.22.13.12

Transmitted Pkts: 1096, Received Pkts: 1109, Error Pkts: 0

MPPE key strength is None

  MPPE_Encrypt_Pkts: 0,  MPPE_Encrypt_Bytes: 0

  MPPE_Decrypt_Pkts: 0,  MPPE_Decrypt_Bytes: 0

  Rcvd_Out_Of_Seq_MPPE_Pkts: 0







mydev(config)# show int e0

interface ethernet0 "outside" is up, line protocol is up

  Hardware is i82559 ethernet, address is 0.000.

  IP address 151.22.13.13, subnet mask 255.255.255.255

  MTU 1492 bytes, BW 1 Kbit half duplex

1410 packets input, 84908 bytes, 0 no buffer

Received 464 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants

0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort

1305 packets output, 272926 bytes, 0 underruns

0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets

0 babbles, 0 late collisions, 0 deferred

1 lost carrier, 0 no carrier

input queue (curr/max blocks): hardware (128/128) software (0/1)

output queue (curr/max blocks): hardware (0/1) software (0/1)

vesdev.com(config)#







mydev# show vpdn





%No active L2TP tunnels





%No active PPTP tunnels





PPPoE Tunnel and Session Information (Total tunnels=1 sessions=1)





Tunnel id 0, 1 active sessions

  time since change 6015 secs

  Remote MAC Address 00:00:00:xx

  1010 packets sent, 1023 received, 12641 bytes sent, 0 received

Remote MAC is 00:00:

  Session state is SESSION_UP

Time since event change 7687 secs, interface outside

PPP interface id is 1

1010 packets sent, 1023 received, 12641 bytes sent, 0 received





usage: debug pppoe {error|packet|event}

Usage:  [no] debug icmp trace

[no] debug packet  [src  [netmask ]]

[dst  [netmask ]]

[[proto icmp]|[proto tcp [sport ] [dport ]]

|[proto udp [sport ] [dport d_p]] [rx|tx|both]

[no] debug sqlnet

[no] debug crypto ipsec|isakmp|ca

[no] debug dhcpc detail|error|packet

[no] debug dhcpd event|packet

[no] debug vpdn error|event|packet

[no] debug ppp error|io|uauth|chap|upap|negotiation

[no] debug pppoe error|packet|event

[no] debug ssh

[no] debug h323 h225|h245|ras asn|event

[no] debug fover 

[no] debug rtsp

[no] debug fixup 

[no] debug rip

[no] debug pdm history

[no] debug ssl [cipher|device]

[no] debug dns 

[no] debug sip

[no] debug skinny

[no] debug access-list 

[no] debug radius [session|all|user ]

[no] debug ntp
[adjust|authentication|events|loopfilter|packets|params|

select|sync|validity]

[no] debug ils

[no] debug igmp

[no] debug mfwd

mydev#

mydev# debug pppoe

usage: debug pppoe {error|packet|event}

Usage:  [no] debug icmp trace

[no] debug packet  [src  [netmask ]]

[dst  [netmask ]]

[[proto icmp]|[proto tcp [sport ] [dport ]]

|[proto udp [sport ] [dport d_p]] [rx|tx|both]

[no] debug sqlnet

[no] debug crypto ipsec|isakmp|ca

[no] debug dhcpc detail|error|packet

[no] debug dhcpd event|packet

[no] debug vpdn error|event|packet

[no] debug ppp error|io|uauth|chap|upap|negotiation

[no] debug pppoe error|packet|event

[no] debug ssh

[no

Re: ADSL - WIC & 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN

Nope, 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700.

  Dave

"Jablonski, Michael" wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?
> 
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RE: ADSL - WIC & 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

Support (or lack thereof) would be an IOS issue. You might want to check the
Release Notes for the latest IOS versions.
About a year ago I stuck a ISDN BRI WIC in a 1604? that already had a
built-in BRI port. The router wouldn't recognize it. @#!! My point being
that just because it fits doesn't mean that it will function.

> -Original Message-
> From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> Looking through Cisco's site; they don't officially say you 
> can use the ADSL
> wic in a 1600 (then again, they don't say you cannot).  But I was
> wondering if there was any type of upgrade/patch that would work?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

> I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is 
> not listed for
> the 1600 but is for the 1700. 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jablonski, Michael  
> > Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?




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RE: ADSL - WIC & 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Looking through Cisco's site; they don't officially say you can use the ADSL
wic in a 1600 (then again, they don't say you cannot).  But I was
wondering if there was any type of upgrade/patch that would work?

-Original Message-
From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:41 AM
To: 'Jablonski, Michael'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL - WIC & 1600 [7:44042]


I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for
the 1600 but is for the 1700. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL - WIC & 1600 [7:44042]
> 
> 
> Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?
> 
> 
> ~~~
> Michael Jablonski
> ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
> 161 North Clark St.
> 9th Flr
> Chicago, IL  60601-2468
> PH: 312.884.2996 
> FAX: 312.278.5550
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RE: ADSL - WIC & 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for
the 1600 but is for the 1700. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ADSL - WIC & 1600 [7:44042]
> 
> 
> Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?
> 
> 
> ~~~
> Michael Jablonski
> ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
> 161 North Clark St.
> 9th Flr
> Chicago, IL  60601-2468
> PH: 312.884.2996 
> FAX: 312.278.5550
> ~~~
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ADSL - WIC & 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?


~~~
Michael Jablonski
ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
161 North Clark St.
9th Flr
Chicago, IL  60601-2468
PH: 312.884.2996 
FAX: 312.278.5550
~~~


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OT Re: SDSL vs ADSL [7:33144]

2002-01-24 Thread Brian

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Ramesh c wrote:

> Folks,
>
> 1)Whats difference between ADSL and SDSL?
adsl is asymmetric, so sownload speed exceeds upload, this is less
expensive.  sdsl is often marketed as business class because upload and
download speeds are equal.  Servers are sometimes more tolerated on sdsl.

> 2)Can I have 2Pcs connected over ADSL or SDSL(Like Windows NT RAS)?
Typically 1 endd is an isp, so the other end is the user.  Assuming nat is
allowed or you have multiple ips, use as many puters as you like.

> 3)Does ADSL or SDSL need special telephone line or the existing line is
> sufficient?
sdsl requires its own line, adsl can be used with a splitter over an
existing line.

Finally see www.dslreports.com to see what is available for you.
>
>
> Cheers
> R




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SDSL vs ADSL [7:33144]

2002-01-24 Thread Ramesh c

Folks,

1)Whats difference between ADSL and SDSL?
2)Can I have 2Pcs connected over ADSL or SDSL(Like Windows NT RAS)?
3)Does ADSL or SDSL need special telephone line or the existing line is
sufficient?


Cheers
R




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Solved: VPN over PPPoE ADSL [7:31089]

2002-01-06 Thread Bruce Williams

Disregard this errant post. I posted this a week ago and it was still in my
outbox and it accidentally got sent again.

This issue was resolved with an upgrade from 12.1 to 12.2.2XK. The 12.1
version of code we were running in the 827 did not pass-thru IPSec.

Bruce


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> I have a customer that has an ADSL line which uses PPPoE. They can
establish
> a VPN Tunnel, but the throughput drops to below 28KBS and the only packets
> that seem to be able to traverse the tunnel are ICMP Pings. I was told
that
> there is a problem with establishing VPNs over a PPPoE ADSL connection. Is
> this true and if it is what is the issue?
>
> Bruce Williams
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VPN over PPPoE ADSL [7:31089]

2002-01-06 Thread Bruce Williams

I have a customer that has an ADSL line which uses PPPoE. They can establish
a VPN Tunnel, but the throughput drops to below 28KBS and the only packets
that seem to be able to traverse the tunnel are ICMP Pings. I was told that
there is a problem with establishing VPNs over a PPPoE ADSL connection. Is
this true and if it is what is the issue?

Bruce Williams
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Re: Problem with VPN over PPPoE ADSL [7:30723]

2002-01-02 Thread Brian Whalen

a wild guess, packet frag issues?  Try to ping with larger packets to test
this..

Brian "Sonic" Whalen
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2002, Bruce Williams wrote:

> I have a customer with an ADSL line which uses PPPoE. They are able to
> establish a VPN tunnel over the DSL line, but they are only able to ping
> through the tunnel. TCP, UDP and other higher protocols will not work. I
> heard that there is an issue with doing VPNs over PPPoE ADSL. Does anyone
> know what the issue is and if there is a solution?
>
> Bruce Williams
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Problem with VPN over PPPoE ADSL [7:30723]

2002-01-02 Thread Bruce Williams

I have a customer with an ADSL line which uses PPPoE. They are able to
establish a VPN tunnel over the DSL line, but they are only able to ping
through the tunnel. TCP, UDP and other higher protocols will not work. I
heard that there is an issue with doing VPNs over PPPoE ADSL. Does anyone
know what the issue is and if there is a solution?

Bruce Williams
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ADSL Configuration with PBI in San Jose [7:29366]

2001-12-16 Thread James Wilson

I have enhanced ADSL service with PBI here in San Jose and have purchased a
1751 with the WIC1ADSL.  Do I need any information from PBI to configure
ADSL support?  Has any list member in the Bay Area configured ADSL with
PBI?  I've seen some sample configurations but do not know if they apply to
PBI here...

Thanks!

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RE: ADSL question [7:29175]

2001-12-15 Thread Nick S.

oh, and btw, the bridging commands mentioned are plain wrong (or should I
say unnecessary), and would at best, achieve nothing.

Nick


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ADSL question [7:29175]

2001-12-14 Thread Teresa

I sould give support to a customer who is testing DHCP out of his local lan.
He has a cisco 1750 and he provided me the configuration.
In my humble opionion there is something wrong in the configuration I'm
sending you below, and I'd like to have your opinion.
I don't understand the ADSL solution. It is not RFC1483 bridging or routing,
it is not PPPoA or PPPoE.
Can anybody give me his/her opinion?
Thanks in advance.
TP
interface ATM0
 mtu 1024
 no ip address
 no ip mroute-cache
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 pvc 1/40 
  vbr-rt 64 64 4
  encapsulation aal5mux ppp dialer
  dialer pool-member 1
 !
 dsl operating-mode auto
 bridge-group 1
!
interface FastEthernet0
 ip address x  255.255.255.240
 no ip redirects
 no ip mroute-cache
 speed auto
 no cdp enable
!
interface Dialer0
 mtu 1024
 bandwidth 128
 ip unnumbered FastEthernet0
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 ip tcp header-compression iphc-format
 no ip mroute-cache
 no keepalive
 dialer pool 1
 dialer-group 1
 fair-queue 64 256 1000
 no cdp enable
 bridge-group 1
 ip rtp header-compression iphc-format
 ip rtp priority 16384 16383 48
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer0
no ip http server
ip pim bidir-enable
!
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
call rsvp-sync
!
voice-port 1/0
 cptone GR
 timeouts initial 5
 timeouts interdigit 3
!
voice-port 1/1
!
no mgcp timer receive-rtcp
!
mgcp profile default
!
dial-peer cor custom
!
!
!
gateway 
!
!
line con 0
 speed 115200
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 login
!
no scheduler allocate
ntp clock-period 17180542
ntp server  source FastEthernet0 prefer
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RE: Cisco 827 ADSL Emergency Help [7:27945]

2001-12-02 Thread Dennis Olson

Based on what little we have to go off, I have experienced a similar
problem with the Cisco 675. It was caused by the Code Red virus. It
ended up needing 3 things:latest flash, web interface disabled and a
command that would automatically reconnect if the provider lost
signal11.

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Shawn Xu
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2001 11:13 AM
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Subject: Cisco 827 ADSL Emergency Help [7:27945]


Hi,

Who has Cisco 827 ADSL router experience, please help. This is a real 
emergency, not only today is Sunday I am still on the site to figure out

what is going on here, but also the company complains too much because
they 
can not remotely access.

The problem is like this:

After you reboot the 827, everything is working fine, all the interfaces
are 
up, but you don't know how long it will last, sometimes a few of hours, 
sometimes one hour, sometimes maybe 5 to 6 hours, then no Internet. When
you 
show interface at this time, all the inerfaces are still up except 
virtual-access1 line protocol which was down.

Any idea? and is there anything related to my configuration file (please
see 
the attached for the file)?

Thank you so much in advance.

Shawn Xu






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Current configuration : 2420 bytes
!
version 12.1
no parser cache
no service single-slot-reload-enable
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime show-timezone service
timestamps log datetime msec localtime show-timezone service
password-encryption ! hostname dethomas ! logging buffered 4096
debugging logging rate-limit console 10 except errors enable password 7
05585058741F1D51 ! username admin password 7 0255520C5E555C79 clock
summer-time eastern recurring ip subnet-zero no ip finger ip domain-name
golden.net ip name-server 199.166.210.2 ip name-server 199.166.210.5 !
ip dhcp pool CLIENT ! no ip bootp server no ip dhcp-client
network-discovery vpdn enable no vpdn logging ! vpdn-group 1
request-dialin
  protocol pppoe
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0
ip accounting output-packets
ip nat inside
no cdp enable
!
interface ATM0
mtu 1492
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
atm ilmi-pvc-discovery
pvc 0/35
  protocol pppoe
pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
!
bundle-enable
dsl operating-mode auto
hold-queue 224 in
!
interface Dialer1
mtu 1492
ip address negotiated
ip nat outside
encapsulation ppp
ip tcp adjust-mss 1422
dialer pool 1
dialer-group 1
no cdp enable
ppp authentication pap callin
ppp pap sent-username [EMAIL PROTECTED] password 7 0601002D484B07 ! ip
classless ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1 no ip http server ! ip nat
inside source list 101 interface Dialer1 overload ip nat inside source
static tcp 10.0.0.4 5631 209.183.136.31 5631 extendable ip nat inside
source static tcp 10.0.0.9 443 209.183.136.31 443 extendable ip nat
inside source static tcp 10.0.0.9 389 209.183.136.31 389 extendable ip
nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.9 709 209.183.136.31 709 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 1433 209.183.136.31 1433
extendable ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 710 209.183.136.31
710 extendable ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 701
209.183.136.31 701 extendable ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2
700 209.183.136.31 700 extendable access-list 98 permit any access-list
101 permit ip 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.255 any no cdp run snmp-server engineID
local 0009020196A499EB snmp-server community rescue RO 98 ! line
con 0 exec-timeout 120 0 login local transport input none stopbits 1
line vty 0 4 access-class 98 in exec-timeout 0 0 password 7
15415D5B5179787C login local ! scheduler max-task-time 5000 end




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Cisco 827 ADSL Emergency Help [7:27945]

2001-12-02 Thread Shawn Xu

Hi,

Who has Cisco 827 ADSL router experience, please help. This is a real 
emergency, not only today is Sunday I am still on the site to figure out 
what is going on here, but also the company complains too much because they 
can not remotely access.

The problem is like this:

After you reboot the 827, everything is working fine, all the interfaces are 
up, but you don't know how long it will last, sometimes a few of hours, 
sometimes one hour, sometimes maybe 5 to 6 hours, then no Internet. When you 
show interface at this time, all the inerfaces are still up except 
virtual-access1 line protocol which was down.

Any idea? and is there anything related to my configuration file (please see 
the attached for the file)?

Thank you so much in advance.

Shawn Xu






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Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration : 2420 bytes
!
version 12.1
no parser cache
no service single-slot-reload-enable
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec localtime show-timezone
service timestamps log datetime msec localtime show-timezone
service password-encryption
!
hostname dethomas
!
logging buffered 4096 debugging
logging rate-limit console 10 except errors
enable password 7 05585058741F1D51
!
username admin password 7 0255520C5E555C79
clock summer-time eastern recurring
ip subnet-zero
no ip finger
ip domain-name golden.net
ip name-server 199.166.210.2
ip name-server 199.166.210.5
!
ip dhcp pool CLIENT
!
no ip bootp server
no ip dhcp-client network-discovery
vpdn enable
no vpdn logging
!
vpdn-group 1
request-dialin
  protocol pppoe
!
!
!
!
interface Ethernet0
ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.0
ip accounting output-packets
ip nat inside
no cdp enable
!
interface ATM0
mtu 1492
no ip address
no atm ilmi-keepalive
atm ilmi-pvc-discovery
pvc 0/35
  protocol pppoe
pppoe-client dial-pool-number 1
!
bundle-enable
dsl operating-mode auto
hold-queue 224 in
!
interface Dialer1
mtu 1492
ip address negotiated
ip nat outside
encapsulation ppp
ip tcp adjust-mss 1422
dialer pool 1
dialer-group 1
no cdp enable
ppp authentication pap callin
ppp pap sent-username [EMAIL PROTECTED] password 7 0601002D484B07
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 Dialer1
no ip http server
!
ip nat inside source list 101 interface Dialer1 overload
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.4 5631 209.183.136.31 5631 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.9 443 209.183.136.31 443 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.9 389 209.183.136.31 389 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.9 709 209.183.136.31 709 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 1433 209.183.136.31 1433 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 710 209.183.136.31 710 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 701 209.183.136.31 701 extendable
ip nat inside source static tcp 10.0.0.2 700 209.183.136.31 700 extendable
access-list 98 permit any
access-list 101 permit ip 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.255 any
no cdp run
snmp-server engineID local 0009020196A499EB
snmp-server community rescue RO 98
!
line con 0
exec-timeout 120 0
login local
transport input none
stopbits 1
line vty 0 4
access-class 98 in
exec-timeout 0 0
password 7 15415D5B5179787C
login local
!
scheduler max-task-time 5000
end




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Connect ADSL via BGP [7:24412]

2001-10-28 Thread 小貴子

Hello , Guys...

I met a problem in my new case
The HQ is using Cisco 3640 connected two ATM E1
and there is seven branch office connected with two  ADSL (One is primary
use , one is backup use)
Now , the situation is ,  how can I config the router with running BGP...
In the condition of is I don't need to do anything when the primary circuit
is down , all of the traffic will
automatic transfer to the backup circuit.

Is there anyone has this experenice can share with me ?
or anyone knows how to config the HQ router and branch router ?

Best Regards .

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Re: ADSL/BVI problems solved! [7:23631]

2001-10-20 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

> After much experimentation and much frustration, I finally solved the
> problem with my BVI interface.  It turns out that removing the default
> route pointing at the BVI1 interface and replacing it with a default route
> pointing at the next-hop IP address fixed the problem.

How does your router know where to route traffic ?  The default route was
pointing
to x.x.x.26 (when the traffic got there, it knew not where to go).  At the
next hop, whatever device was there, used its routing table to forward
traffic further.


> I'm not totally clear on why this made a difference, but it did.  As soon
> as that change was made, I could reach the IP assigned to the BVI
interface
> from hosts out in the world, and general connectivity was enabled.  Wild.

Routing, its a beautiful thing :)

> If someone can explain to me why a next-hop static route vs an interface
> static route made a difference, I'd appreciate it.

.26 did not have a routing table (it was you).  Had .26 been another router
on the network, it would have worked fine.

BTW (what was the next hop , .25 ?)




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Re: ADSL/BVI problems solved! [7:23631]

2001-10-20 Thread Ben Hockenhull

>I finally got it through my thick head that it was a *bridged* connection,
>and set up IRB.
>
>Sure enough, I was then able to ping the next hop address with packets
>sourced from the public IP I was given.  However, I seem to be unable to
>hit anything outside that particular subnet, and I'm not sure why.  If I
>try and ping www.yahoo.com, for instance, I get no response.  This is true
>if I ping from the internal network (and thus NAT) or if I ping sourced
>from the BVI interface (avoiding NAT).

After much experimentation and much frustration, I finally solved the
problem with my BVI interface.  It turns out that removing the default
route pointing at the BVI1 interface and replacing it with a default route
pointing at the next-hop IP address fixed the problem.

I'm not totally clear on why this made a difference, but it did.  As soon
as that change was made, I could reach the IP assigned to the BVI interface
from hosts out in the world, and general connectivity was enabled.  Wild.

If someone can explain to me why a next-hop static route vs an interface
static route made a difference, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

Ben




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RE: ADSL/BVI problems [7:23535]

2001-10-19 Thread Ben Hockenhull

At 2:27 PM -0400 10/19/01, Mark Odette II wrote:
>Ben,
>I could be wrong, and you're using a new angle I've never seen before on
>implementing NAT,
>But I think your problem is this:
>
>You need to specify a NAT Pool, and the Access-List 152 is applied to that
>pool, rather than what you're trying to do.
>
>This is what I mean.
>
>ip nat pool Name-of-Pool 216.162.122.Y 216.162.122.Z netmask 255.255.255.248
>ip nat inside source list 152 pool Name-of-Pool overload

I think the NAT config I'm using is valid; I've been using it (and
variations on that theme) for while with no problem.

The access list tells the router to NAT traffic from 192.168.10.0/24.
Since I have only the one public IP, and it is assigned to the interface,
there's no NAT pool to configure, so I configure NAT overload on the
interface itself.  While my public IP is part of that /29, I only get one
IP out of that /29.  Other customers of the ISP are using other IPs in that
subnet.

Ben




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RE: ADSL/BVI problems [7:23535]

2001-10-19 Thread Mark Odette II

Ben,
I could be wrong, and you're using a new angle I've never seen before on
implementing NAT,
But I think your problem is this:

You need to specify a NAT Pool, and the Access-List 152 is applied to that
pool, rather than what you're trying to do.

This is what I mean.

ip nat pool Name-of-Pool 216.162.122.Y 216.162.122.Z netmask 255.255.255.248
ip nat inside source list 152 pool Name-of-Pool overload

Note: Y and Z are Start and End of IP block, chosen by your preference if
you want to also use statics out of your block.

This may be why you are not getting return traffic.  NAT is broken.

-Mark Odette II
StellarConnection Services
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:44 AM
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Subject: ADSL/BVI problems [7:23535]


I finally got it through my thick head that it was a *bridged* connection,
and set up IRB.

Sure enough, I was then able to ping the next hop address with packets
sourced from the public IP I was given.  However, I seem to be unable to
hit anything outside that particular subnet, and I'm not sure why.  If I
try and ping www.yahoo.com, for instance, I get no response.  This is true
if I ping from the internal network (and thus NAT) or if I ping sourced
from the BVI interface (avoiding NAT).

It all works fine if I use the external ADSL bridge.  Ideas?

Relevant config:

!
!
bridge irb
!
!
!
!
interface ATM0/0
 mtu 1500
 no ip address
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm auto-configuration
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 bundle-enable
 dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/0.1 point-to-point
 pvc valuenet 0/35
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
 bridge-group 1
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 description Internal Network
 ip address 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
 speed 100
 full-duplex
!
interface BVI1
 ip address 216.162.122.26 255.255.255.248
 ip nat outside
!
ip nat inside source list 152 interface BVI1 overload
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 BVI1
!
access-list 152 permit ip 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.255 any
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
 bridge 1 route ip

ATM0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  MTU 1500 bytes, sub MTU 1500, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM, loopback not set
  Encapsulation(s): AAL5 AAL2, PVC mode
  23 maximum active VCs, 256 VCs per VP, 1 current VCCs
  VC idle disconnect time: 300 seconds
  Last input 00:05:08, output 00:00:01, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:07:49
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: None
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 10 packets input, 1102 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 291 packets output, 14241 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
ATM0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM
  5 packets input, 586 bytes
  277 packets output,13639 bytes
  0 OAM cells input, 0 OAM cells output

BVI1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is BVI, address is .0cfa.4c54 (bia ..)
  Internet address is 216.162.122.26/29
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 5000 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/0, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 136 packets output, 8592 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out




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ADSL/BVI problems [7:23535]

2001-10-19 Thread Ben Hockenhull

I finally got it through my thick head that it was a *bridged* connection,
and set up IRB.

Sure enough, I was then able to ping the next hop address with packets
sourced from the public IP I was given.  However, I seem to be unable to
hit anything outside that particular subnet, and I'm not sure why.  If I
try and ping www.yahoo.com, for instance, I get no response.  This is true
if I ping from the internal network (and thus NAT) or if I ping sourced
from the BVI interface (avoiding NAT).

It all works fine if I use the external ADSL bridge.  Ideas?

Relevant config:

!
!
bridge irb
!
!
!
!
interface ATM0/0
 mtu 1500
 no ip address
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm auto-configuration
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 bundle-enable
 dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/0.1 point-to-point
 pvc valuenet 0/35
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
 bridge-group 1
!
interface FastEthernet0/0
 description Internal Network
 ip address 192.168.10.1 255.255.255.0
 ip nat inside
 speed 100
 full-duplex
!
interface BVI1
 ip address 216.162.122.26 255.255.255.248
 ip nat outside
!
ip nat inside source list 152 interface BVI1 overload
!
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 BVI1
!
access-list 152 permit ip 192.168.10.0 0.0.0.255 any
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
 bridge 1 route ip

ATM0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  MTU 1500 bytes, sub MTU 1500, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM, loopback not set
  Encapsulation(s): AAL5 AAL2, PVC mode
  23 maximum active VCs, 256 VCs per VP, 1 current VCCs
  VC idle disconnect time: 300 seconds
  Last input 00:05:08, output 00:00:01, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:07:49
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: None
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 10 packets input, 1102 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 291 packets output, 14241 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
ATM0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM
  5 packets input, 586 bytes
  277 packets output,13639 bytes
  0 OAM cells input, 0 OAM cells output

BVI1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is BVI, address is .0cfa.4c54 (bia ..)
  Internet address is 216.162.122.26/29
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1 Kbit, DLY 5000 usec,
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
  ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Queueing strategy: fifo
  Output queue 0/0, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 136 packets output, 8592 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 0 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out




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RE: ADSL config [7:23456]

2001-10-18 Thread Chuck Larrieu

by default the router is not a bridge. so yes, bridging must be enabled.
look, my DSL provider put a bridge in my house. I plug the ethernet side
into a hub, and anything I plug into that hub has my public IP numbers. same
as your old configuration.

If your ISP is bridging to you then so far as I know, based on how I have
configured things that plug into Pacific Bell Internet's bridged
connections, bridging must be enabled and on the DSL side of things there
needs be a bridging configuration. I use IRB and the BVI, because my
customers tend to have private IP's on the inside, and we are doing some
form of VPN tunnels.

Other ISP's may do things differently. I can only relate my own limited
experience here.

Chuck

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Ben Hockenhull
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: ADSL config [7:23456]


>the carrier DSL bridge? You would plug the Ethernet output into a hub or
>switch, plug your other end stations into that hub or switch, and number
>everything according to the IP scheme your carrier provides. You should be
>doing the same on your Cisco box. I can only speak to what I have done
>personally, but my understanding is that you would bridge on the DSL link,
>and the public IP address would either go on the ethernet link or the BVI.

Well, the way it was set up, the provided DSL bridge plugs into an ethernet
interface designated as external, the internal network was on another
ethernet interface, I set the public IP on the public ethernet interface,
enable NAT, and things Just Work.  I'm trying to get rid of the bridge for
a variety of reasons, including the fact that the bridge doesn't drop line
protocol on the ethernet port when the DSL link goes down, so my
dial-backup never triggers.

I'm still unclear on why I need to set up bridging, unless I need to be
sending BPDUs to the DSLAM or something.  If the ADSL interface is
configured with the PVC information and has an IP, why can't it just
encapsulate the frames and send them down the wire without the benefit of
an explicit bridge-group?  The DSL bridge that was in place simply
performed media conversion in the first place.

What am I missing?

Thanks

Ben




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RE: ADSL config [7:23456]

2001-10-18 Thread Ben Hockenhull

>the carrier DSL bridge? You would plug the Ethernet output into a hub or
>switch, plug your other end stations into that hub or switch, and number
>everything according to the IP scheme your carrier provides. You should be
>doing the same on your Cisco box. I can only speak to what I have done
>personally, but my understanding is that you would bridge on the DSL link,
>and the public IP address would either go on the ethernet link or the BVI.

Well, the way it was set up, the provided DSL bridge plugs into an ethernet
interface designated as external, the internal network was on another
ethernet interface, I set the public IP on the public ethernet interface,
enable NAT, and things Just Work.  I'm trying to get rid of the bridge for
a variety of reasons, including the fact that the bridge doesn't drop line
protocol on the ethernet port when the DSL link goes down, so my
dial-backup never triggers.

I'm still unclear on why I need to set up bridging, unless I need to be
sending BPDUs to the DSLAM or something.  If the ADSL interface is
configured with the PVC information and has an IP, why can't it just
encapsulate the frames and send them down the wire without the benefit of
an explicit bridge-group?  The DSL bridge that was in place simply
performed media conversion in the first place.

What am I missing?

Thanks

Ben




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RE: ADSL config [7:23456]

2001-10-18 Thread Chuck Larrieu

some comments / questions below:

-Original Message-
From: Ben Hockenhull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:46 PM
To: Chuck Larrieu
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Subject: RE: ADSL config [7:23456]


At 6:22 PM -0700 10/18/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>the following was taken from a working configuration. I do not have the
>bridging configuration handy, but I have bridged using DSL successfully.
>
>to bridge you need to configure IRB and create a BVI that will have your
>public IP address. It will also be the interface for NAT outside. The DSL
>link will be part of the bridge-group.

Do I need to bridge, though?  It seems to me, and maybe I'm being dumb,
that I should be able to configure the pertinent details on the interface,
bring it up, and things should work.  I'm not clear on why I'd need to use
CRB or IRB at all.

CL: the DSL device should bridge - yes. what would you do if you were using
the carrier DSL bridge? You would plug the Ethernet output into a hub or
switch, plug your other end stations into that hub or switch, and number
everything according to the IP scheme your carrier provides. You should be
doing the same on your Cisco box. I can only speak to what I have done
personally, but my understanding is that you would bridge on the DSL link,
and the public IP address would either go on the ethernet link or the BVI.

>I also notice that you do not have your encapsulation set. I've never been
>clear when or where this is required, so I always throw it in there.

I went ahead and set the encap:

interface ATM0/0
 mtu 1500
 no ip address
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 bundle-enable
 dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/0.1 point-to-point
 mtu 1500
 ip address 216.162.122.26 255.255.255.248
 pvc valuenet 0/35
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!

And debug output remains the same.  It's also interesting that if I ping
the IP I assigned to the interface from an outside host, I get debug
output, so the packets are making it to the interface.  However, the ping
never sees replies.

>also - your debug output is showing VPI 0 and VCI 23. is your telco of any
>help providing you with the proper pvc info?

VPI is 0, VCI is 35.  The debug output shows 0x23 for the VCI, which is
hex, and converts to decimal 35.

CL: DOH!

Here's the output of a sho int, in case that reveals anything useful:

CL: your ATM/DSL side is working fine. I believe the problem will be
corrected at the very least by making the DSL link part of a bridge group
and putting the public IP on the ethernet. My preference would be to use a
BVI, but that's just me ;->

ATM0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  MTU 1500 bytes, sub MTU 1500, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 248/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM, loopback not set
  Encapsulation(s): AAL5 AAL2, PVC mode
  23 maximum active VCs, 256 VCs per VP, 1 current VCCs
  VC idle disconnect time: 300 seconds
  Last input 00:03:51, output 00:07:32, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 04:39:53
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: None
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 100 packets input, 10932 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 59 packets output, 4782 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 4 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
ATM0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  Internet address is 216.162.122.26/29
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 248/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM
  100 packets input, 10932 bytes
  34 packets output,2152 bytes
  0 OAM cells input, 0 OAM cells output

Thanks

Ben




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RE: ADSL config [7:23456]

2001-10-18 Thread Ben Hockenhull

At 6:22 PM -0700 10/18/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>the following was taken from a working configuration. I do not have the
>bridging configuration handy, but I have bridged using DSL successfully.
>
>to bridge you need to configure IRB and create a BVI that will have your
>public IP address. It will also be the interface for NAT outside. The DSL
>link will be part of the bridge-group.

Do I need to bridge, though?  It seems to me, and maybe I'm being dumb,
that I should be able to configure the pertinent details on the interface,
bring it up, and things should work.  I'm not clear on why I'd need to use
CRB or IRB at all.

>I also notice that you do not have your encapsulation set. I've never been
>clear when or where this is required, so I always throw it in there.

I went ahead and set the encap:

interface ATM0/0
 mtu 1500
 no ip address
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 bundle-enable
 dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/0.1 point-to-point
 mtu 1500
 ip address 216.162.122.26 255.255.255.248
 pvc valuenet 0/35
  encapsulation aal5snap
 !
!

And debug output remains the same.  It's also interesting that if I ping
the IP I assigned to the interface from an outside host, I get debug
output, so the packets are making it to the interface.  However, the ping
never sees replies.

>also - your debug output is showing VPI 0 and VCI 23. is your telco of any
>help providing you with the proper pvc info?

VPI is 0, VCI is 35.  The debug output shows 0x23 for the VCI, which is
hex, and converts to decimal 35.

Here's the output of a sho int, in case that reveals anything useful:

ATM0/0 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  MTU 1500 bytes, sub MTU 1500, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 248/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM, loopback not set
  Encapsulation(s): AAL5 AAL2, PVC mode
  23 maximum active VCs, 256 VCs per VP, 1 current VCCs
  VC idle disconnect time: 300 seconds
  Last input 00:03:51, output 00:07:32, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters 04:39:53
  Input queue: 0/75/0/0 (size/max/drops/flushes); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: None
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 100 packets input, 10932 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 59 packets output, 4782 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 4 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
ATM0/0.1 is up, line protocol is up
  Hardware is DSLSAR (with Alcatel ADSL Module)
  Internet address is 216.162.122.26/29
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 160 Kbit, DLY 12800 usec,
 reliability 248/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
  Encapsulation ATM
  100 packets input, 10932 bytes
  34 packets output,2152 bytes
  0 OAM cells input, 0 OAM cells output

Thanks

Ben




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RE: ADSL config [7:23456]

2001-10-18 Thread Chuck Larrieu

the following was taken from a working configuration. I do not have the
bridging configuration handy, but I have bridged using DSL successfully.

to bridge you need to configure IRB and create a BVI that will have your
public IP address. It will also be the interface for NAT outside. The DSL
link will be part of the bridge-group.

I also notice that you do not have your encapsulation set. I've never been
clear when or where this is required, so I always throw it in there.

also - your debug output is showing VPI 0 and VCI 23. is your telco of any
help providing you with the proper pvc info?

interface ATM0
 no ip address
 no ip directed-broadcast
 no atm auto-configuration
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 no atm address-registration
 no atm ilmi-enable
 bundle-enable
 hold-queue 224 in
!
interface ATM0.1 point-to-point
 bridge-group 1
 no ip directed-broadcast
 pvc PROVIDED BY TELCO
 encapsulation aal5snap
!

HTH

Chuck
!

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Ben Hockenhull
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:20 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ADSL config [7:23456]


I have an ADSL link that works fine with an ADSL bridge plugged into it.
I'm trying to make it work with a 1750 and a WIC-1ADSL and can't seem to
make it happen.

Has anyone done this, and if so, do you have a sample working config?

The cisco docs that cover bridged DSL aren't appropriate, as I wish to
configure NAT on this interface, not transparently bridge between
fastether0/0 and atm0/0

Relevant config from the router:

interface ATM0/0
 mtu 1500
 no ip address
 atm vc-per-vp 256
 no atm ilmi-keepalive
 bundle-enable
 dsl operating-mode auto
!
interface ATM0/0.1 point-to-point
 mtu 1500
 ip address 216.162.122.26 255.255.255.248
 pvc valuenet 0/35
 !
!

Output of a sho atm pvc:
VCD /  Peak  Avg/Min Burst
Interface   Name   VPI   VCI  Type   Encaps   SC   Kbps   Kbps   Cells
Sts
0/0.1  valuenet 035   PVCSNAP UBR 160
UP

When I try to ping the next hop address from an extended ping that
specifies this interface as the soruce interface, I get the following,
while debugging all sorts of atm-related parameters:

Oct 18 16:41:09.288 CDT: ATM0/0.1(O):
VCD:0x1 VPI:0x0 VCI:0x23 DM:0x0 SAP: CTL:03 OUI:00 TYPE:0800
Length:0x70
Oct 18 16:41:09.288 CDT: 4500 0064 00E1  FF01 153F D8A2 7A1A D8A2 7A19
0800
35FA 0D39 26F0 
Oct 18 16:41:09.288 CDT:  2306 F120 ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:09.292 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:09.292 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:09.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:09.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:09.292 CDT: cdlsar_safe_start: idb = 0x81E4A698,
cos_queue = 0x8250F750
Oct 18 16:41:09.304 CDT: ATM0/0 RX(81E02458),size 12   [.
Oct 18 16:41:11.288 CDT: ATM0/0.1(O):
VCD:0x1 VPI:0x0 VCI:0x23 DM:0x0 SAP: CTL:03 OUI:00 TYPE:0800
Length:0x70
Oct 18 16:41:11.288 CDT: 4500 0064 00E2  FF01 153E D8A2 7A1A D8A2 7A19
0800
2E29 0D3A 26F0 
Oct 18 16:41:11.288 CDT:  2306 F8F0 ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:11.288 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:11.292 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:11.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:11.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:11.292 CDT: cdlsar_safe_start: idb = 0x81E4A698,
cos_queue = 0x8250F750.
Oct 18 16:41:13.288 CDT: ATM0/0.1(O):
VCD:0x1 VPI:0x0 VCI:0x23 DM:0x0 SAP: CTL:03 OUI:00 TYPE:0800
Length:0x70
Oct 18 16:41:13.288 CDT: 4500 0064 00E3  FF01 153D D8A2 7A1A D8A2 7A19
0800
2658 0D3B 26F0 
Oct 18 16:41:13.288 CDT:  2307 00C0 ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:13.288 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:13.292 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:13.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:13.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:13.292 CDT: cdlsar_safe_start: idb = 0x81E4A698,
cos_queue = 0x8250F750.
Oct 18 16:41:15.288 CDT: ATM0/0.1(O):
VCD:0x1 VPI:0x0 VCI:0x23 DM:0x0 SAP: CTL:03 OUI:00 TYPE:0800
Length:0x70
Oct 18 16:41:15.288 CDT: 4500 0064 00E4  FF01 153C D8A2 7A1A D8A2 7A19
0800
1E87 0D3C 26F0 
Oct 18 16:41:15.288 CDT:  2307 0890 ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:15.288 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
ABCD
ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:15.292 CDT: ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD ABCD
Oct 18 16:41:15.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:15.292 CDT:
Oct 18 16:41:15.292 CDT: cdlsar_safe_start: idb = 0x81E4A698,
cos_queue = 0x8250F750.
Oct 18 16:41:17.288 CDT: ATM0/0.1(O):
VCD:0x1 VPI:0x0 VCI:0x23 DM:0x0 SAP: CTL:03 OUI:00 TYPE:0800
Length:0x70
Oct 18 16:41:17.288 CDT: 4500 0064 00E5  FF01 153B D8A2

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