RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63
Listening for you in PA Russell 73 KB3MOW Dave -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:44 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 Well I cant help you on 3.587 in Texas 80m is dead but I'm on 14.079 calling CQ CSMK63 tone 1000 for the next hour. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Digital Mode Club #03198 BARTG #8457 --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote: From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:34 PM Hi all I am calling cq on 3587 1000Hz usb right now . la5vna Steinar On 25.08.2010 17:57, my_call_is_ac4m wrote: I will be on 80m tonight using CMSK63 then switching to 31 after contact just to see for myself how well this mode does under noisy conditions I will be active on 3.587 tone frequency at 0100z but I have a few question does his software have Macro commands like other software? And what is up with the sample rate control? Is that for TX offsets?
RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63
Copy you 599 Russell, but guess you aren't hearing me 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:44 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 Well I cant help you on 3.587 in Texas 80m is dead but I'm on 14.079 calling CQ CSMK63 tone 1000 for the next hour. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Digital Mode Club #03198 BARTG #8457 --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote: From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:34 PM Hi all I am calling cq on 3587 1000Hz usb right now . la5vna Steinar On 25.08.2010 17:57, my_call_is_ac4m wrote: I will be on 80m tonight using CMSK63 then switching to 31 after contact just to see for myself how well this mode does under noisy conditions I will be active on 3.587 tone frequency at 0100z but I have a few question does his software have Macro commands like other software? And what is up with the sample rate control? Is that for TX offsets?
RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63
Had you at S-9 and clean decode on every transmission. Not real sure how finicky the tuning is on this mode. I used the fine-tuning control to move the ellipse so that it was centered in the display, but it copied just fine even when it was off a bit. Could be a sound card issue I suppose, but at 8000 Hz my card is off by only .062% out and .017 in - that would make it somewhere around 8001 - hardly enough to adjust for. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63 Dave I was seeing some one but unable to decode them I was set on 63 and sample rate at 8000 I will keep trying Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Digital Mode Club #03198 BARTG #8457 --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Dave 'Doc' Corio dco...@zitomedia.net wrote: From: Dave 'Doc' Corio dco...@zitomedia.net Subject: RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 4:05 PM Copy you 599 Russell, but guess you aren't hearing me 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:44 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 Well I cant help you on 3.587 in Texas 80m is dead but I'm on 14.079 calling CQ CSMK63 tone 1000 for the next hour. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Digital Mode Club #03198 BARTG #8457 --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no wrote: From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@broadpark.no Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:34 PM Hi all I am calling cq on 3587 1000Hz usb right now . la5vna Steinar On 25.08.2010 17:57, my_call_is_ac4m wrote: I will be on 80m tonight using CMSK63 then switching to 31 after contact just to see for myself how well this mode does under noisy conditions I will be active on 3.587 tone frequency at 0100z but I have a few question does his software have Macro commands like other software? And what is up with the sample rate control? Is that for TX offsets?
RE: [digitalradio] Re: CMSK63
Listening for you Claudio 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Claudio Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 7:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: CMSK63 Calling in 14079 cmsk63 Claudio-LU2VC 2010/8/25 Juergen dl...@darc.de No luck again today. Could be that it is an issue of the poor propagation caused by the present sun wind and it's impact on the magnetic field of the earth. I will try again in CMSK next week when the sun wind has calmed down as the propagation forecast is telling us. Thanks for the report from W9 even though it was too weak for decoding. I will be qrv in JT65 again and / or Olivia 16/500 (14076 resp. 14074.9 + 1500 Hz USB in Olivia) later the night. 73 Juergen, DL8LE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave 'Doc' Corio dco...@... wrote: Had you at S-9 and clean decode on every transmission. Not real sure how finicky the tuning is on this mode. I used the fine-tuning control to move the ellipse so that it was centered in the display, but it copied just fine even when it was off a bit. Could be a sound card issue I suppose, but at 8000 Hz my card is off by only .062% out and .017 in - that would make it somewhere around 8001 - hardly enough to adjust for. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 5:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63 Dave I was seeing some one but unable to decode them I was set on 63 and sample rate at 8000 I will keep trying Russell 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Digital Mode Club #03198 BARTG #8457 --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Dave 'Doc' Corio dco...@... wrote: From: Dave 'Doc' Corio dco...@... Subject: RE: [digitalradio] CMSK63 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 4:05 PM  Copy you 599 Russell, but guess you aren't hearing me 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Russell Blair Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:44 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 Well I cant help you on 3.587 in Texas 80m is dead but I'm on 14.079 calling CQ CSMK63 tone 1000 for the next hour. Russell NC5O 1- Whoever said nothing is impossible never tried slamming a revolving door! 2- A government big enough to give you everything you want, is strong enough to take everything you have. - Gerald Ford IN GOD WE TRUST Russell Blair (NC5O) Skype-Russell.Blair Hell Field #300 DRCC #55 30m Dig-group #693 Digital Mode Club #03198 BARTG #8457 --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Steinar Aanesland saa...@... wrote: From: Steinar Aanesland saa...@... Subject: Re: [digitalradio] CMSK63 To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 3:34 PM Hi all I am calling cq on 3587 1000Hz usb right now . la5vna Steinar On 25.08.2010 17:57, my_call_is_ac4m wrote: I will be on 80m tonight using CMSK63 then switching to 31 after contact just to see for myself how well this mode does under noisy conditions I will be active on 3.587 tone frequency at 0100z but I have a few question does his software have Macro commands like other software? And what is up with the sample rate control? Is that for TX offsets?
RE: [digitalradio] Re: CMSK63
Sorry, but not seeing any trace of you on the waterfall 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of my_call_is_ac4m Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 9:05 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: CMSK63 I am on 80m right now on 3587 zero beat freq calling , I hope the Europeans will listen. I will be here till 0200z That is 3586 USB VFO +1000hz There was a RTTY net around 3588 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, my_call_is_ac4m kf4...@... wrote: I will be on 80m tonight using CMSK63 then switching to 31 after contact just to see for myself how well this mode does under noisy conditions I will be active on 3.587 tone frequency at 0100z but I have a few question does his software have Macro commands like other software? And what is up with the sample rate control? Is that for TX offsets?
RE: [digitalradio] Re: CMSK Freq's
I alternated calls to you and calls to CQ and never heard another signal. Not sure how propagation is, though. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Juergen Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:30 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: CMSK Freq's Called there in CMSK31 and 63 from 22.00 - 22.30 UTC. No reply. Will be there again tomorrow. 73 Juergen, DL8LE --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, k8yzk k8...@... wrote: I know CMSK is mainly for 160/80 metes (which I currently can't do), but what freq's are being used currently on the other bands/ thanks and 73 Kurt
RE: [digitalradio] New CMSK released
Darned if I know of a set frequency for it, Andy, but given its' bandwidth, I'd guess we'd be safe just about anywhere in the digital bandplan as long as we don't park on top of another QSO! How about 7.078? 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Andy obrien Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 8:37 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] New CMSK released What are the main frequencies ? On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 8:35 AM, n0hnj dco...@zitomedia.net wrote: CMSK version 21.08.10 has been released (http://www.qsl.net/zl1bpu/CMSK/cmsk.htm) Sound cards separate from Windows default can now be selected. Anyone wanting to try this mode out please drop me an email. I'll be checking periodically today. 73 Dave KB3MOW
RE: [digitalradio] sound card manager software
Are you looking for Quick Mix? http://www.ptpart.co.uk/quickmix/ 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Hal Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 9:10 PM To: DigitalRadio Subject: [digitalradio] sound card manager software To The Group: The sound card manager software is about all I can think to call this program. It would allow you to set up different settings for each program you use with your soundcard and not have to constantly change mixer settings. For an example, you run Echolink,click this program and the Echolink settings come up. You run MultiPsk and those preset settings were saved and named and your ready to run the MultiPsk program. Ect etc. I have a new AMD/Dual Core Desktop machine running XP Pro. 3GB ram,1GB Radeon Card, 2.7 speed, 500 GB HD,multi-monitor set up. I run DxLab suite,N1MM/Mtty,MultiPsk,Echolink and work SSB on morning chats. I have a AFSK interface for my digital modes and logging. Why, you ask? Because several weeks ago on 40 meter chat the group said you have a Bad Feed back in the audio. I was at a loss. I had been running two NetVista desktops. One for digital programs, the other for SSB and Echolink. It was no problem because they ran independent of one another. Now I have a Workhorse AMD Machine and it won't function the way I want it to. I learned that by disconnecting the speaker line from the new AMD machine, no feedback into SSB chats.I could mute the line-out, no feedback. Now I go into to set up the Multipsk and I have to reset the soundcard settings. If I want to play music on the New machine the same thing occurs. That is the problem. It may have been on one of the other digital groups , but I can't find the source for this. A Ham suggested this and another program or two to a digital group ( I am on most of them). I had it saved but took a hit on the Laptop/Vista machine and had to rebuild it from scratch and cannot find the replies(late last year) that were sent. Nor can I find it by researching the groups. I know, from watching this reflector that many of you run the same programs I run. So I thought I would start here. A Ham will know what I need and why I need it to function in a certain way. I hope you can help. Any help or suggested programs would be appreciated. Thanks, 73 Hal WD4MDA Jacksonville FL
RE: [digitalradio] Bad sound card?
Could it be that the card is set up for 5.1 surround instead of simple 2-channel stereo, or that you actually have the audio out connected to the wrong output - like the rear speakers on 5.1 surround? Most sound cards I've used come with a console that lets you set the card for various protocols, like 5.1 and so on. Hope it's something simple like that! Good luck es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Jeremy Cowgar Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 3:25 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Bad sound card? Hello, When purchasing a new radio this last week I decided to also set my computer up how it should have been long ago. I purchased a sound card to dedicate it to digital modes. The sound card purchased was: http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0239854 It was $9.99... I wasn't asking for the world, but I didn't think I would get this. I am curious as to what you think? Here's the synario. I connect the line out to my rig blaster and when I transmit I get this: http://jeremy.cowgar.com/files/bad_sound_card.wav This was recorded from my mom's station that is 8 miles away. Obvious problem. I then simply moved the line out cable from my new sound card to my old sound card that is built into my mother board. No other changes. I do not have a recording of it, but it's beautiful, exactly how a feldhell signal should sound. Now, the most obvious thing would be is my sound settings wrong, i.e. way overdriving with the new sound card or something. I set them up the same. Looking at my ALC meter, I transmit into a dummy load, turn the line out volume up until I get ALC movement, then turn it back down until I cannot notice any ALC movement. Do you have any ideas? It's just $10, but I'd really like to have a dedicated sound card for the ham stuff, and please do not suggest a Signalink as I already have a nice setup, all wired and working, I just need to get this squared away. Until then, I'm working off my sound card built into the motherboard. Thanks for any help, Jeremy KB8LFA
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Something to consider about external automatic antenna tuners
That's not quite correct. There is also a cable that runs from the connector on the rear panel of the 746 to the tuner. This connector is commonly used for the Icom AH-4 style tuner. Rather than the LDG tuner simply sensing the RF, this cable commands the unit when the rig is tuned. I had wrongly assumed that it would also tell the tuner what frequency it was on. If I had done my homework I might have discovered this. It's not a show-stopper - only a very minor inconvenience. I wanted to pass it along for anyone else that might make the same assumption. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of jhaynesatalumni Sent: Monday, February 22, 2010 9:58 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Something to consider about external automatic antenna tuners --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, Dave 'Doc' Corio dco...@... wrote: However, there is one thing the tuner will NOT do. It will not remember any band or frequency, until the transmitter is keyed. Well, sure. The only thing going from the radio to the tuner is the antenna cable, so the tuner has no way to know that you have changed frequency on the transceiver. Whereas a tuner built into the radio, or one made for the radio you have and connecting to the radio with a control cable, can get frequency information from the radio. But the third-party tuner only knows you have changed frequency when you tickle it with some RF.
[digitalradio] Something to consider about external automatic antenna tuners
This is for anyone thinking about an external automatic antenna tuner. It is not meant as an endorsement or indictment of these devices. I operate CW, digital, and once in a while SSB. Because of the vastly different operating frequencies, no one antenna can work perfectly on every one. My IC-746 (non-Pro) has a very good auto-tuner built in, but it wasn't quite good enough to cover all the frequencies I use. I decided to get an external ATU. I decided on the LDG AT-200Pro and have been using it now for several months. The tuner works great. It tunes quickly on a new frequency, and has more than enough memories to remember all the various settings for all the bands and frequencies I operate on. It also has manual overrides should they be needed. However, there is one thing the tuner will NOT do. It will not remember any band or frequency, until the transmitter is keyed. For example: I operate CW on 14.035 for a period of time. I then have a CW sked on 18.075. After the sked I move back to 14.035. The tuner is still set for the last transmission, which was on 18.075. Until I transmit on 14.035 again, the signals are a bit attenuated, since the tuner is set for a different frequency. My IC-746 built-in tuner remembered the tuner settings for each band. In fact, I believe with the triple-stacking band registers that it would remember three settings per band. I suspect most modern rigs probably have the same performance. To be fair, it only takes a very short time to transmit a low-power pulse that will activate the tuner's memory for the frequency, but it IS an extra step that may not be welcome when working a contest or DX. In my situation, the ability to quickly tune a wide variety of frequencies quickly, outweighs the downside stated. I only point this out for benefit of anyone considering the addition of an outboard tuner. 73 Dave KB3MOW
RE: [digitalradio] Re: DRCC Question
Thanks, Andy! Any idea what the DRG numbers are? -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of obrienaj Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 8:35 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: DRCC Question Dave. no one was using 'em, so I dropped the idea. Andy K3UK --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, n0hnj dco...@... wrote: Are DRCC numbers still given out and exchanged? It appears that the DRCC tracker file hasn't been updated in over two years, and I never get a DRCC number form any QSOs. Instead I seem to get DRG numbers (Digital Radio Group?) Has this been discontinued or changed? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW
RE: [digitalradio] WSJT JT65A on HF
Thanks, Tony! One more question, if I could. When I double right-click on a call in the text window to answer a CQ, does that automatically set the transmit frequency, or do I still need to click the TxDF? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Tony Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:46 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] WSJT JT65A on HF Dave, You need to click on TxDF. Tony -K2MO - Original Message - From: Dave dco...@zitomedia.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 9:22 PM Subject: [digitalradio] WSJT JT65A on HF I seem to be missing something using WSJT on the HF bands, such as 20M. Even though I set the transmit to a specific frequency, the answers to the CQs I get are all on the center frequency. For example, I will set the transmit frequency on SpecJT to -400, then turn Freeze on in the WSJT window. I thought this placed my transmit frequency on 400 Hz lower than the center frequency. Yet tonight all answers I got to my CQs were on the center freq. As much as I'd love to think that everyone else is wrong and I'm right, I suspect this isn't the case! Can anyone point out to me what I'm forgetting to set? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW
RE: [digitalradio] Which filter? Question for the group
You should have given me a holler, Andy! Still need NY on 20M digital!! Have a great holiday 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Andy obrien Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2009 8:36 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Which filter? Question for the group Dave , I do not know anything about filters for the 746 but I do know your current filters are good enough for... 11:58 2 -11 -0.6 371 B KB3MOW JA1PVX RRR Congratulations ! Andy K3UK On Sat, May 23, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Dave dco...@zitomedia.net wrote: I'd like to get an idea of what the group thinks an appropriate filter choice might be for me. I have an IC-746 (non-Pro) which currently has a 250 Hz and a 500 Hz in the 9 Mhz filter slots. I use the 250 Hz filter for CW and the 500 Hz for PSK31 and RTTY. The 455 Khz filter slot is currently empty. I use the rig very seldom on SSB, but was thinking of adding the 1.9 Khz SSB filter in order to close the barn door the 746 has when wide open in SSB mode. Would this filter combination work? Has anyone ever had this filter group in a 746, and with what kind of performance? Finally, should I look at the usual Icom filters or would I be better off going to Inrad? The Inrad filters are a bit less expensive. There are a lot more choices in the Inrad line, but unsure of which one to consider from that group! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW
RE: [digitalradio] Removing Linux MBR from hard drive
That seems to have worked! Still have a small EXT DOS partition that I can't get rid of, but the error is gone and it's loading fine! Thanks very much 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Patrick Weatherford Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:00 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Removing Linux MBR from hard drive Try Fdisk /mbr http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013 Patrick AE5PW On 5/19/2009 4:40 PM, Dave wrote: I apologize if this is too far off topic. Playing with Linux this past week I apparently hosed my old laptop. I can boot from a floppy, but not from the hard drive. FDISK doesn't help and neither does FORMAT - when it tries to boot from the hard drive I get an error message indicating it's still trying to boot from XUBUNTU. Can anyone tell me, using the bootable floppy I have, how I can get rid of the Linux MBR? Under FDISK, it won't let me delete either the DOS partition or the EXT DOS partition. Any help greatly appreciated! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW
RE: [digitalradio] Question for the Linux gurus
Thanks, Bob! The question has been rendered moot, however, as I opted to sell the laptop. It would have taken too much money paid out for memory to make it a viable machine, and even then it would have only had 256M of RAM. As a side note, I loaded XUBUNTU on it, and it worked. It took five minutes to open an application, but it worked! It even recognized the Ethernet adapter! It just wasn't worth investing any money in at this stage. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Bob Donnell Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 8:19 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Question for the Linux gurus Hi Dave, First would be to make sure there really isn't support for it. If you can get to a bash shell, and get logged in as root, you can run ifconfig, and see if it lists the USB ethernet adapter. I say this from the perspective of an even older laptop, for which I had (of all things) a parallel port to ethernet adapter - and the installation I did recognized the presence of the adapter, and initialized it. Run ifconfig -a and note what interfaces it comes up with - probably just the loopback interface, but if the laptop has an infrared port, it might also be reported. Then plug in the USB ethernet dongle, wait 10-15 seconds for Linux to enumerate the device, or if you're running from CD, perhaps longer - wait for the CDROM drive to spin down? Then run ifconfig -a again and see if there's a new interface. At that point, if it's connected to a network with a dhcp server, you'll probably have a working network connection. Hope that helps! 73, Bob, KD7NM -- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave 'Doc' Corio Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:09 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [digitalradio] Question for the Linux gurus Thanks for the response, Rik. Not having any idea how to run Linux from a USB stick, I tried the next best thing. I booted up under Linux from the CD and plugged the stick in. I can look at the contents of the stick with no problem, so I do know the USB port works. But how on earth can I connect to the internet through the USB adapter with no driver for it? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Rik van Riel Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:46 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question for the Linux gurus Dave wrote: There is no NIC, however it does have two USB ports. I have a USB interface that connects to my cable modem, but it doesn't have a Linux driver available for it. Can anyone guess if it will work? It's a Linksys model USB10T I'm trying to locate additional memory for the laptop, but unsure if I can find any. You may be able to fix both of these at the same time by running Linux from a USB stick. USB sticks may be slower than hard disks for huge transfers, but they are faster for small transfers (no seek time). That also allows you to try out whether the USB ethernet interface works, without having blown away the OS that is currently on the laptop. -- All rights reversed.
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Question for the Linux gurus
Well, I managed to get Puppy Linux 4.2 to boot from CD with this old laptop, and even got the internet connectivity issue resolved. Puppy 4.2 found the USB10T interface with no problem, and within a few minutes I was able to check my email and use the web. That was the good news. The bad news is that apparently 96M isn't enough to do a full install of Puppy. Tried it twice and the system locks up before the installation is complete. Set up the hard drive as ext3 format with boot flag set, but no go. I did find 128M of RAM for the laptop for $40, but not ready to invest any money into this thing. Was only planning on setting it up as a backup to my main PC in case of failure. I have tried Linux a couple of times in the past. I had Ubuntu on my main PC, set up as a dual boot system. There are a lot of things to like about Linux, however I'm not ready to give myself over to it completely. I'm hooked on the DXLab suite of software, and don't want to switch to another system at this time. Going to play around with it some more, but as you say, I may have to spend more money to get it to work than it's worth hi! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of doug_helbling Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 9:49 AM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Question for the Linux gurus Great discussion on Linux here ... glad to see someone willing to give it a try. I just switched over to Linux for digital modes, and while I miss some of the features of Simon's very fine HRD/DM780 program, the performance boost I get from Linux is outstanding and FLDigi is very well behaved on my system. I went down a similar laptop repurposing path with an old Sony Vaio, another 366 MHz Pentium 2 machine. After my experience, I can offer a couple of other suggestions re: Linux and laptops: a.. For LAN connectivity, if you must go wireless (more CPU overhead), you might also consider getting a PCMCIA wireless card. Not plugging any particular vendor, but I put a D-Link AirPlus in the Viaio it seems to work pretty well, better than a roughly equivalent USB-based wireless LAN interface, no doubt in part because the USB was 1.0, not 2.0. b.. Do a web search for more memory. Chances are you will find it out there, and for cheap. For this same Viao, I found some memory at edgetechcorp.com for about $15 that took my unit from 64M to whatever the max available for this unit (~184). c.. Give Ubuntu some consideration. There is a new 9.04 version out now, with three flavors: server, desktop, and Notebook, the latter supposedly streamlined for use in portable machines. Not sure if this is a good fit. I have Ubuntu 7.10 running on my Viao and I am pretty happy with it. It was running Win98SE when I got it (a discard from a friend) and it was Very Slow ... it took hours to do anything. Granted it is still only a Pentium 2. If you end up running FLDigi, you will probably need to run slow waterfall mode, perhaps skip the RS ID feature, and maybe even avoid use of the PSK browser. But Ubuntu is easy to configure and upgrade, so you can play around with settings to find performance boundaries. There are occassionally some hassles with supported libraries for some digital radio stuff (e.g. hamlib versions needed for fldigi vs. what comes with a specifical release of Ubuntu), but they can be sorted out. Given that I spend as much time as I do keeping old, obsolete hardware running, I can't believe I am saying this, but here is one other tiny piece of advice: unless you are playing with the P2 for the sheer novelty / retro-technology appeal (there is nothing wrong with that!), please seriously consider buying something just a bit further up the food chain. If your intent is to make serious use of a laptop for digitial radio, this will pay off in a huge way. At least here locally (Portland, OR area), one can readily find used Pentium 3 and even Pentium 4 laptops, with 1 GB of RAM or more, for $150 or even $100. Brand new dual-CPU P4's can be had for $350 to $400. Nearly all have P3+ boxes have USB2 ... many have built-in 802.11a/b/g wireless. They will all surely have in excess of 20 GB hard drives, many with even 80 or 100 GB drives, as compared to the 2, 3, or 4 GB drive that is probably in your P2 box. The USB Drive booting solution for a Linux OS for such a box is even more viable if you have a faster box with built-in USB 2.0 (instead of 1.0). AND ... if you have enough hard drive, you can go for a truly flexible solution, a dual- or multi-boot Linux/Windoze box. My point is that by the time you accessorize your P2 into being truly servicable, you may well have spent more money than you would have by getting a newer machine, as you will have repurchased a lot of stuff that comes along for the ride in an ever so slightly newer laptop. If you are really into
RE: [digitalradio] Question for the Linux gurus
Thanks for the response, Rik. Not having any idea how to run Linux from a USB stick, I tried the next best thing. I booted up under Linux from the CD and plugged the stick in. I can look at the contents of the stick with no problem, so I do know the USB port works. But how on earth can I connect to the internet through the USB adapter with no driver for it? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Rik van Riel Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 7:46 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [digitalradio] Question for the Linux gurus Dave wrote: There is no NIC, however it does have two USB ports. I have a USB interface that connects to my cable modem, but it doesn't have a Linux driver available for it. Can anyone guess if it will work? It's a Linksys model USB10T I'm trying to locate additional memory for the laptop, but unsure if I can find any. You may be able to fix both of these at the same time by running Linux from a USB stick. USB sticks may be slower than hard disks for huge transfers, but they are faster for small transfers (no seek time). That also allows you to try out whether the USB ethernet interface works, without having blown away the OS that is currently on the laptop. -- All rights reversed.
RE: [digitalradio] Digital Modes, 2 rigs, 2 bands, one sound card/PC
Don't see why it wouldn't work, Andy. FDMDV uses 2 sound cards for transmit/receive. Could probably even control transmit/receive PTT with separate com ports. Sounds like the bad old days of HF Packet, with several QSOs going on at the same time on one frequency! 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Andrew O'Brien Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 5:07 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] Digital Modes, 2 rigs, 2 bands, one sound card/PC Maybe it is the sudden heat that is getting to me Has anyone tried to copy digital modes using two different rigs set to two different bands, with the audio from both going to ONE soundcard and PC? I may give it a shot and see how confusing OR helpful this would be.
RE: [digitalradio] 6M Digital Activity
Would there be any way to add 6M spots to the K3UK digital pages we already have? Since the folks there are looking for digital anyway, almost seems a natural evolution. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:digitalra...@yahoogroups.com]on Behalf Of Andy obrien Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:25 PM To: digitalradio Subject: [digitalradio] 6M Digital Activity With Spring/Summer close in the northern hemisphere, 6M openings may be more frequent. Previous discussions have mentioned how this rather quite band can be effective for various experimental digital modes. Does anyone have an suggestions for ways we may stimulate some more digital activity on 6M? Andy K3UK
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Odd noise in receiver
Ah, I wish it was that simple! It's been back for several days now and runs its' cycle non-stop. The only good thing about it is that it's every 30 Khz and not every 10! For the most part it stays away from my PSK and CW frequencies and I can work around it somewhat. Thanks, Jose es 73 Dave KB3MOW Jose A. Amador wrote: It might be a switching PSU on standby mode. I know one TV set that cycles in a similar way (producing some 'reverse TVI), even when the numbers are not the same, it starts, charges the main capacitor, goes into standby and restarts when its voltage diminishes under a certain threshold. 73, Jose, CO2JA Dave 'Doc' Corio wrote: Thanks for the info, Bruce. I didn't have a chance to record it or measure it accurately before it disappeared Friday evening some time. As to if it's time synced, I would have to guess that it is. It was extremely close to 10 seconds on and 5 seconds off, and the number of pulses was 55 during the on period. Granted, timing it with a stopwatch is not exactly precise, but it was close enough that I'm reasonably certain it's timed somehow. The simple fact that it stopped Friday night leads me to believe it's some type of commercial activity. I've had the rig on a lot this weekend, and haven't heard it once. It also stopped before I could log exactly where it was. If I'm lucky, it's gone, never to return. I doubt it, however. If it comes back, I'll get a recording of it and post it. If you have a recording of yours, please send it to me! May not help, but it sure couldn't hurt! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Bruce Sawtelle wrote: Hi Dave, I have a similar type noise in our neighborhood. By doing some DF'ing, we've pinned it down to a neighbor's house, but haven't been successful yet in gaining their confidence to let us explore beyond their front door. Can here it on VHF when we're at their front porch. Is it time synced, i.e. is the accuracy such that it's being derived from a 60Hz/Xtal time base. In my case, it's not. It comes on for APPROX 12 seconds and goes off for APPROX 3 seconds, but if I listen to it over a few minutes, it will drift up or down. Also, I noticed I can hear it at ~ 16.7KHz offsets, which makes me think it could be PC video related. Not sure if it could be switching power supply related, I thought most of them were 100's Khz. Actually, It had been across the full 20M band last year when we were DF'ing, but now it's discrete. I have a wav file I can send you if that would help. Fortunately, it's been down to S2-3 as of late. It also seems to be tied to colder weather (thermostat control??). BTW, the neighbor is 300-400 feet away in a suburban area (70' x 120' lots) . W5AHC is another ham in the neighborhood and he's ~100 fett closer and hears it as well. Hope this helps. Let me know what it ends up being. tnx es 73 Bruce - W3NJ
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Odd noise in receiver
Thanks for the info, Bruce. I didn't have a chance to record it or measure it accurately before it disappeared Friday evening some time. As to if it's time synced, I would have to guess that it is. It was extremely close to 10 seconds on and 5 seconds off, and the number of pulses was 55 during the on period. Granted, timing it with a stopwatch is not exactly precise, but it was close enough that I'm reasonably certain it's timed somehow. The simple fact that it stopped Friday night leads me to believe it's some type of commercial activity. I've had the rig on a lot this weekend, and haven't heard it once. It also stopped before I could log exactly where it was. If I'm lucky, it's gone, never to return. I doubt it, however. If it comes back, I'll get a recording of it and post it. If you have a recording of yours, please send it to me! May not help, but it sure couldn't hurt! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Bruce Sawtelle wrote: Hi Dave, I have a similar type noise in our neighborhood. By doing some DF'ing, we've pinned it down to a neighbor's house, but haven't been successful yet in gaining their confidence to let us explore beyond their front door. Can here it on VHF when we're at their front porch. Is it time synced, i.e. is the accuracy such that it's being derived from a 60Hz/Xtal time base. In my case, it's not. It comes on for APPROX 12 seconds and goes off for APPROX 3 seconds, but if I listen to it over a few minutes, it will drift up or down. Also, I noticed I can hear it at ~ 16.7KHz offsets, which makes me think it could be PC video related. Not sure if it could be switching power supply related, I thought most of them were 100's Khz. Actually, It had been across the full 20M band last year when we were DF'ing, but now it's discrete. I have a wav file I can send you if that would help. Fortunately, it's been down to S2-3 as of late. It also seems to be tied to colder weather (thermostat control??). BTW, the neighbor is 300-400 feet away in a suburban area (70' x 120' lots) . W5AHC is another ham in the neighborhood and he's ~100 fett closer and hears it as well. Hope this helps. Let me know what it ends up being. tnx es 73 Bruce - W3NJ -
Re: [digitalradio] Yahoo radiointerference group - Re: Odd noise in receiver
Thanks! I never thought to look for a forum on interference! 73 Dave KB3MOW Bruce Sawtelle wrote: FYI, although email traffic has been low, there is the Yahoo group radiointerference where various audio/screen captures can be found. Would be good to upload any info on the signature you have for others to comment. I'll be posting my files there. If anyone has inputs, their appreciated! tnx Bruce --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone has encountered this type of noise. It's a raspy, pulsating sound. It lasts 10 seconds, is silent for 5, then starts again The pulses are about 5 per second. It's showing up on a lot of bands. Right now I have it at about 21.048, but have heard it on several ham frequencies. We haven't added any new electronics in the house at all. We are in a rural setting, with the nearest neighbor several hundred feet away. We do have cable TV and cable internet, and I wonder if this might be a test birdie I've heard mentioned in the past. It seems to run 24/7, and just started up within the last few days. Any ideas? Thanks in advance 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Odd noise in receiver
Thanks, Gary! I'm trying to be open-minded about this. Today the noise seems to be gone completely. It disappeared yesterday evening and haven't heard it since. If it reappears on Monday, I'll have a better clue that it's something that belongs to the local cable company. I used to work in cable TV years ago, and I seem to recall a test device that sent this type of signal over the cable to test the in-line amplifiers, but my memory is not something to be relied on too heavily hi hi! Thanks and have a great weekend! 73 Dave KB3MOW grwescom wrote: This kind of noise has been showing up quite a lot lately. I've chased down a couple TVI complaints with similar characteristics. The problem has consistently been battery chargers, especially the kind to used to charge the batteries for portable tools. They tend to cycle charging power on and off. Now some of the wall wart chargers for small electronic stuff is starting to create the same kind of noise. This may not be your problem but I would recommend against ignoring the possibility that it might be. Gary - N0GW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wonder if anyone has encountered this type of noise. It's a raspy, pulsating sound. It lasts 10 seconds, is silent for 5, then starts again The pulses are about 5 per second. It's showing up on a lot of bands. Right now I have it at about 21.048, but have heard it on several ham frequencies. We haven't added any new electronics in the house at all. We are in a rural setting, with the nearest neighbor several hundred feet away. We do have cable TV and cable internet, and I wonder if this might be a test birdie I've heard mentioned in the past. It seems to run 24/7, and just started up within the last few days. Any ideas? Thanks in advance 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Odd noise in receiver
I've never noticed anything from the charger for my Motorola, and sometimes I charge it right at the radio desk! Unfortunately, I haven't charged it for a few days, so I know it isn't that. Haven't charged anything or plugged anything new or different in. Noise disappeared last night and still isn't back, so maybe it moved on? Wishful thinking? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Mike Blazek wrote: Hi, Dave and Gary: The absolute worst offender I've found at my QTH is the charger for my Motorola cell phone. 73, Mike N5UKZ Dave 'Doc' Corio wrote: Thanks, Gary! I'm trying to be open-minded about this. Today the noise seems to be gone completely. It disappeared yesterday evening and haven't heard it since. If it reappears on Monday, I'll have a better clue that it's something that belongs to the local cable company. I used to work in cable TV years ago, and I seem to recall a test device that sent this type of signal over the cable to test the in-line amplifiers, but my memory is not something to be relied on too heavily hi hi! Thanks and have a great weekend! 73 Dave KB3MOW grwescom wrote: This kind of noise has been showing up quite a lot lately. I've chased down a couple TVI complaints with similar characteristics. The problem has consistently been battery chargers, especially the kind to used to charge the batteries for portable tools. They tend to cycle charging power on and off. Now some of the wall wart chargers for small electronic stuff is starting to create the same kind of noise. This may not be your problem but I would recommend against ignoring the possibility that it might be. .
Re: [digitalradio] Odd noise in receiver
Yep - removing the antenna makes it go away, so I know it's coming into the rig and not generated by it. I was hoping someone might recognize the cyclical nature of the pest and give me a clue as to what it might be. Strangely enough, last night it was on, but tonight it has disappeared. Tnx es 73 dave KB3MOW Ed wrote: At 11:46 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote: Wonder if anyone has encountered this type of noise. It's a raspy, pulsating sound. It lasts 10 seconds, is silent for 5, then starts again The pulses are about 5 per second. It's showing up on a lot of bands. Right now I have it at about 21.048, but have heard it on several ham frequencies. We haven't added any new electronics in the house at all. We are in a rural setting, with the nearest neighbor several hundred feet away. We do have cable TV and cable internet, and I wonder if this might be a test birdie I've heard mentioned in the past. It seems to run 24/7, and just started up within the last few days. Does it go away when you remove the antenna? That will pretty much eliminate the likelyhood its a birdie. Lots of cheap consumer stuff emits RF, unfortunately.. Maybe someones' fancy Christmas Lights half a mile away. Ed Dial Broadband has arrived Nationwide! Up to 5 times faster than traditional dialup connections from $13.33/month! See the demo for yourself at www.BigValley.net http://www.BigValley.net
Re: [digitalradio] Odd noise in receiver
Nope - I recognize THAT little nightmare hi hi! Thanks, Andy 73 Dave KB3MOW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if it is Pactor 3 ? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry *From*: Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Date*: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 14:46:45 -0500 *To*: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject*: [digitalradio] Odd noise in receiver Wonder if anyone has encountered this type of noise. It's a raspy, pulsating sound. It lasts 10 seconds, is silent for 5, then starts again The pulses are about 5 per second. It's showing up on a lot of bands. Right now I have it at about 21.048, but have heard it on several ham frequencies. We haven't added any new electronics in the house at all. We are in a rural setting, with the nearest neighbor several hundred feet away. We do have cable TV and cable internet, and I wonder if this might be a test birdie I've heard mentioned in the past. It seems to run 24/7, and just started up within the last few days. Any ideas? Thanks in advance 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] QRM 14074 thru 14083??
That looks like the interference I had at one time from my monitor, and in exactly the same place. If you can actually hear that noise on the radio, try turning the computer monitor off. Does the noise stop? If so, you may have to adjust the frequency of the monitor (if it is adjustable). I changed my monitor's frequency from 60 Hz to 90, and it moved the interference out of the ham bands. Hope this helps! 73 Dave KB3MOW Hal wrote: Greetings: I only have one radio to check those frequencies so was wondering if the QRM is generated here or what.. A snapshot is at: http://mysite.verizon.net/haltec/usb-14077.000.jpg http://mysite.verizon.net/haltec/usb-14077.000.jpg and the multiple tones seem to be 30Hz apart across the entire waterfall 300-2500Hz.. Below the subject dial setting is OK as well as above.. Am I the only one hearing these tones?? They've been there during spot checks for over two days now.. Must be my location?? I discovered this trying to print a PSKMail station on 20 metres.. The 30M PSKMail server works fine.. -- Vy 73 de Hal--W8MCH UNIX-GNU/Linux - Slackware 11.0, 2.4.33.3 .
[digitalradio] Sound card question
Here's a goody for someone knowledgeable about sound cards. I've calibrated my sound card (Diamond PCI) two ways, using MMSSTV at 48000 Hz, and MMTTY at 11025 Hz. Here are the results of the calibration: MMSSTV 195 PPM 48009.37 MMTTY 6984 PPM 11102 This seems to be a huge discrepancy, but that's where I start getting confused. Does this simply mean the card works better at 48 Khz? It is rated at 16 Bit, 48 Khz record and playback. These calibrations have been done multiple times over the past week and are consistent every time calibration is run. Thanks for any input 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question
Thanks, Patrick! If I understand this, then, here is what I should expect: My sound card calibrates to 48009.37, which is .9998% fast I transmit with an audio frequency of 2415 Hz I am therefore actually transmitting on 2439 Hz, or .9998% higher than indicated Does that sound right? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Patrick Lindecker wrote: Hello Dave, It is simple. If the offset in sampling frequency is x% and the true AF frequency is f0, the displayed frequency f will be equal to f=f0*(1-x/100) Example: if the sampling offset is +1% and f0 is 1000 Hz, the frequency displayed will be equal to 1000*(1-0.01)=990 Hz 73 Patrick - Original Message - From: Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dcorio%40zitomedia.net To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 3:57 PM Subject: [digitalradio] Re: Sound card question Thanks, Simon! It makes sense that if the native speed is 48K, any other speed would require some type of conversion. One more question, if I can impose on your good nature! What impact, if any, does the error in sampling rate have on any TX/RX offset? During the Tara Rumble I noticed that almost every station that responded to my CQ, came back a bit lower in frequency than mine. One station I responded to even told me I was off- frequency. I don't believe my IC-746 has any offset, and my RIT/XIT was off. Does that large error rate of 6984 ppm create an offset, and can I determine how great it is? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Simon Brown \(KNS\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It means that the drivers are better - the internal clock runs at 48kHz, other rates are created by either the driver or (very often) Windows. Windows XP does not do a good job of this, VISTA however is excellent at converting the sample rates. Simon Brown, HB9DRV www.ham-radio-deluxe.com - Original Message - From: Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've calibrated my sound card (Diamond PCI) two ways, using MMSSTV at 48000 Hz, and MMTTY at 11025 Hz. Here are the results of the calibration: MMSSTV 195 PPM 48009.37 MMTTY 6984 PPM 11102 Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked http://www.obriensweb.com/sked 30M digital activity at http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m http://www.projectsandparts.com/30m Recommended software : DM780, Multipsk, FLDIGI, Winwarbler ,MMVARI. Yahoo! Groups Links
[digitalradio] Soundblaster cards and digital applications
First, this is not meant as an 'attack' on Soundblaster. I know a lot of people use them successfully. It's merely meant as an aid to anyone who may have unexplainable problems with their computers. When I had my Soundblaster Audigy installed in my PC, I started having a lot of problems with my DXLabs applications and MultiPSK. Strange error messages and performance issues. The DXLabs author spent a great deal of time trying to diagnose these problems. Finally, I decided to try the built-in sound card, and wouldn't you know, all the issues cleared up. Happy to have found the culprit, I replaced the Audigy with another Soundblaster card, since the on-board card doesn't work well for digital radio. Little problems began to show up again. Once in a while, the PC wouldn't boot properly, but most of the issues were with digital ham apps. Beginning to see a trend, I just replaced the Soundblaster again, but this time with an inexpensive Diamond brand sound card. All problems have completely disappeared! This isn't an ad for Diamond sound cards, or a blanket condemnation of Soundblaster. Just a hopefully informative note to anyone out there who has problems with their PC that are unexplainable by other causes, that looking at your sound card /*might*/ be a place to look. 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Odd signal on 28.120
Unknown what direction - don't have a beam here. But I found I receive it much better on my vertical than on the Windom. It's completely gone now, and since Andy, K3UK, who is only about a hundred miles from me didn't hear it, I'm going to chalk it up to some type of local interference. Tnx, all, es 73 Dave KB3MOW Howard W3CQH wrote: *what direction is it coming from?* - Original Message - *From:* Andrew O'Brien mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Saturday, August 02, 2008 1:41 PM *Subject:* Re: [digitalradio] Odd signal on 28.120 Nothing here On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:36 PM, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else picking this up? Repeats over and over, with each repeat lasting 10 seconds, with a 5 second pause between iterations. Begins with a downward modulated tone for about 1 second, followed by about 3 raspy pulses per second for the remaining 9 seconds. Silence, then starts again. Almost reminds me of the old OTH radar in the 50's and 60's. The signal occupies about 750 Hz of bandwidth, and there is a PSK station just below it. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW __.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Microphone putting audio into PSK transmissions
Not when feeding the audio into ACC-1 instead of the mic connector. ACC-1 on the 746 has a constant level input. All adjustments to the audio level are made external to the rig in that case. This is the part I overlooked when trying to cut the mic audio off hi hi! 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Don't you need some mic gain to get a SSB signal generated with PSK? Andy On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 3:22 AM, Vilnis Vosekalns [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:yl2kf%40arrl.net wrote: --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, If mic gain is down what happens ? On my IC-737A interface to ACC1 and mic gain to zero and bye. 73 Vilnis/YL2KF -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ)
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Microphone putting audio into PSK transmissions
The 746 doesn't have that option. Maybe the Pro does, but I have the non-pro. Tnx anyway 73 Dave KB3MOW Steve Hunt wrote: Dave, you have to switch to Digital SSB. By pressing and holding the USB/LSB button for 1 sec. the Radio will show D-USB or D-LSB. This will effectively de-couple any Microphone, Radio-wise (internally). ... workes for me 73 Steve, W1CDX --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using the ACC jack on the rear of my IC-746 for digital mode audio from my computer. Convenient, but the downside is that the microphone picks up audio from the room and that also gets transmitted. For this reason I'm considering building a mic switch box that will allow me to switch the mic out of the circuit without having to remove it from the front connector on the rig every time I use a digital mode. My question is, can I simply use a rotary wafer switch with eight contacts to switch between no microphone, my headset, and my hand mic? Would there be a need for any electronics at all? An even bigger question is, might there be a simpler way to kill the audio from the microphone without going through all this? All input appreciated! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Microphone putting audio into PSK transmissions
Thanks, Bonnie. While I'm sure that would solve the problem with the hand-held, it only addresses half the issue. When the XYL is in the shack (her computer desk is 90 degrees and 4 feet away from mine) I use the headset mic so as to cause as little QRM to her while she works (she works from home). I guess unless someone tells me that a rotary wafer switch won't do the trick for me, I'm going to try to build one. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW expeditionradio wrote: Hi Dave, Many transceivers have automatic muting of the microphone whenever the rear panel accessory jack PTT is in use... and they do not require external switching or modification. However, some Icom transceivers and other brands do not have internal muting of the microphone muting when the rear panel audio/PTT is enabled. A simple modification of the Icom HM-36 microphone results in the muting of the microphone whenever the microphone's PTT button is not being pushed. It enables the computer to interface via the transceiver's rear panel data accessory jack, without ambient audio entering via the hot microphone during computer audio transmissions. CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE MOD: http://hflink.com/icom/microphone/hm36/ http://hflink.com/icom/microphone/hm36/ This mod provides an easy viable solution that does not require modification of the transceiver itself. The principles used in this modification may be applied to other brands of transceivers and microphones. 73 Bonnie VR2/KQ6XA Dave KB3MOW wrote: I'm using the ACC jack on the rear of my IC-746 for digital mode audio from my computer. Convenient, but the downside is that the microphone picks up audio from the room and that also gets transmitted. ... might there be a simpler way to kill the audio from the microphone without going through all this?
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Microphone putting audio into PSK transmissions
Well, my plan is to use two 8-pin mic jacks on a small enclosure, with an 8-wire line out to the mic input of the 746. A rotary wafer switch with 8 poles and three positions should allow me to switch between the hand-held mic, the headset mic, or a blank position coresponding to no mic. When I'm going to run digital modes, I'd simply select the no mic position so that room audio doesn't get transmitted. In either of the other two positions, for SSB operation, all pins would be active on the selected mic, and PTT, audio, and controls should be functional. I don't see that as being sloppy at all. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW expeditionradio wrote: To mute the mic audio, you only need to short the microphone hot pin to ground. A simple single pole single throw switch (normally open) will work. However, you will need to manually switch it each time you transmit... and perhaps that is rather sloppy station control. Bonnie --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess unless someone tells me that a rotary wafer switch won't do the trick for me, I'm going to try to build one. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW CLICK HERE TO VIEW THE MOD: http://hflink.com/icom/microphone/hm36/ http://hflink.com/icom/microphone/hm36/
Re: [digitalradio] Microphone putting audio into PSK transmissions
I recall an old saying. Something about not seeing the forest for the trees. Well, time to get the chain saw out and cut some wood! Yep, the mic gain control is sitting right there on the front of the rig. I suspect it's probably been there all along, but obviously, I'd be the wrong person to say. And ya know what? When I turn that little control counterclockwise, well, the audio picked up by the microphone is no longer an issue! Durn clever of these Icom folks to put that right there! Guess I've been controlling the gain via the software for so long that I never even considered the obvious solution! Now I can turn my attention to much more important matters - like figuring out if the little light in the fridge really DOES go out when I close the door! Many thanks and 73 Larry! Dave KB3MOW W2ZEY wrote: Dave, This is what Tigertronics says about the early 746 model: “Some customers have reported that the IC-746 (early model only) does NOT mute the Mic when keyed from the Accy Port. If this is the case with your radio, then you will need to turn the radio's Mic Gain down and/or unplug the microphone…” The Mic gain on your radio is on front – not buried in a menu. Does turning the gain all the way down take care of the problem? That’s a lot more convenient than unplugging the microphone and cheaper than building a switch box… unless you want to build a project for fun, that is. 73 / Larry / W2ZEY *From:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Monday, June 16, 2008 2:33 PM *To:* digitalradio@yahoogroups.com *Subject:* RE: [digitalradio] Microphone putting audio into PSK transmissions I'd be real careful taking my word for things, Larry - I can't even remember breakfast this morning hi hi! Haven't had any problems with the Buxcomm in the 6 months or so that I've used it. Had to return the first one I bought as defective, but he replaced it real quick and this one has been fine. Since it feeds the PC audio to ACC-1 I don't beleive it could be causing the microphone to activate, but that's why I ask these questions hi! I'm thinking of using two input jacks on this project - one for the headset mic and one for the hand mic. One output would feed the mic jack on the 746, and a 8-pole, 3-position rotary switch would select between either mic, or none when I'm on digital. That would switch the mic audio right out of the circuit. Just need to find out if that will do it for me. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/sked Check our other Yahoo Groups http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dxlist/ http://groups.yahoo.com/group/contesting http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Overheating PC?
Couple of problems I've come across, Andy: 1. The heat sink on the top of the processor has loosened up, and is no longer making solid contact with the processor itself. It could look solid, but if it separates from the CPU even a little, it can cause overheating. 2. The fan is working, but due to age, dust, it has slowed down to the point it is ineffective. 3. Dust build-up on either in inflow or outflow vents for the fan(s). If either in or out goes through the power supply, it's sometimes difficult to see the buildup without opening the supply. On my old Gateway, there was a fan on the cpu itself, but it blew hot air directly into the power supply! Talk about overheating! What wattage is your power supply rated at? Most PCs come with 200 to 300 watt supplies, which may be adequate for the base system, but if you add peripherals, such as USB sound cards, CD Burners, video cards, additional memory, and so on, it taxes the power supply so much that it can overheat. Hope this gives some clues! 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Please excuse the not-directly ham related issue. A PC I have used for 2 years without issues is suddenly closing down due to overheating. At quick glance the CPU fan appears to be working but will run temp tests. Any other suggestions if not CPU fan? -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1433 - Release Date: 5/14/2008 4:44 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Best line of the day
Right up there with ur 599 599 pse rpt name es qth 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Copied on 40M PSK today I am having a hard time copying even though your signal is 599 , not decoding every thing. Andy K3UK No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.13/1375 - Release Date: 4/12/2008 11:32 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Useless tidbit of information
Won't know until I do some more operating. I only noticed this one because it was smack in the middle of the JT65A hangout, and that's where I've been spending most of my airtime. It was nice to finally track down the source of the constant carrier, but the source is still somewhat of a surprise. 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: -Interesting Dave, was it present on another frequency ? Andy -- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just replaced the Soundblaster Audigy sound card in my computer with an older Soundblaster card. Amazingly enough, the birdie I had on my IC-746 at 14.076 disappeared at the same time! I didn't realize a sound card could cause birdies, but next time you have one that you can't explain or find, consider this as a possible source. 73 Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 10:58 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Sigma Tel audio level
Jose, I had hoped this thread would just pass into obscurity! I found the adjustment to make on the interface and now have my full power output. One more small detail I overlooked before asking for help! thanks, my friend! 73 Dave KB3MOW Jose A. Amador wrote: Dave, Getting only 40 watts out means you still need an audio level 4 dB higher. Going the easy way, can't you tweak some attenuator in your interface? 73, Jose, CO2JA Dave 'Doc' Corio wrote: I recently discovered that my Soundblaster Audigy card was causing some problems to my software, so I switched over to the on-board Sigma Tel sound system. All the problems disappeared, but I notice the output level is quite low from the Sigma Tel to the rig. I've gone to the obvious places to correct this, and with the windows volume control set to the max, it still doesn't drive my 746 anywhere near as well as the Audigy did. For example, on 160 meters, I could, if I chose to, run just about 100 watts out using the Audigy card. Using the Sigma Tel I can only get about 40 watts. Am I overlooking something simple here? The only thing that changed is where the cables plug in to the back of the PC. The cables all stayed the same, as did the interface. Anyone know if this just may be how the Sigma Tel works? Tnx in advance Dave KB3MOW __ Participe en Universidad 2008. 11 al 15 de febrero del 2008. Palacio de las Convenciones, Ciudad de la Habana, Cuba http://www.universidad2008.cu http://www.universidad2008.cu No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1258 - Release Date: 2/4/2008 10:10 AM
[digitalradio] Sigma Tel audio level
I recently discovered that my Soundblaster Audigy card was causing some problems to my software, so I switched over to the on-board Sigma Tel sound system. All the problems disappeared, but I notice the output level is quite low from the Sigma Tel to the rig. I've gone to the obvious places to correct this, and with the windows volume control set to the max, it still doesn't drive my 746 anywhere near as well as the Audigy did. For example, on 160 meters, I could, if I chose to, run just about 100 watts out using the Audigy card. Using the Sigma Tel I can only get about 40 watts. Am I overlooking something simple here? The only thing that changed is where the cables plug in to the back of the PC. The cables all stayed the same, as did the interface. Anyone know if this just may be how the Sigma Tel works? Tnx in advance Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Not enough Serial Ports
Most of the on-line tech stores, such as Amazon.com or buy.com have multi-port cards available at a decent price. If you have a PCI slot available in the computer, this is one option. I paid $19 for the card I'm using, and it provides 4 serial ports via a connector that splits out to 4 DB-9 jacks. The medusa cable was included with the card, too! 73 es GL Dave KB3MOW Barry Mertz wrote: Questions: I am using an old IBM with Windows 98 operating system. The computer has two usb ports and one DB9 serial port. This is what I want to hook up. An MFJ-1275 sound card adapter. I also want to run HAM Radio Deluxe and control to radios with the CAT interface. A Yaesu FT- 920 HF and a FT-847 both is CAT capable. I would like to study CAT on the 920 847 two serial reports required I have one on the computer? MFJ-1275 to be used on both radios I am thinking a Patch Bay. I will move the cables if needed. I have allot of items that require a serial port and only one, a switch to switch the Items to the one port. Or is there a better way. Can someone help the old Gunny KC8SXG Barry No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.12/1245 - Release Date: 1/26/2008 3:45 PM
Re: [digitalradio] FDMDV confusion
Sure do! And excellent decode right now on N0GR in Iowa. Just hard to tune without a visual on the signal. 73 dave Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Dave, Do you see the signature in the text field ? LA5VNA Steinar Dave skrev: I must be missing something here. Decoding several stations right now (1715Z)very well on 14.236 but see absolutely no signal on any of the display types I choose. Hear the decoded voice perfectly, but the display doesn't show any input. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM
Re: [digitalradio] FDMDV confusion
Cranked the input up, and had a great QSO with N0GR. Almost 100% copy with just a bit of drop-out caused by QSB. Still almost nothing showing on the display, but enough that I could see the peak I needed to tune to. Maybe I was just expecting a waterfall-type display similar to DRM. Have to say I am truly impressed! The voice quality was better than I had expected for the bandwidth being used. Somewhat robotic-sounding, but still perfectly able to understand inflection and pitch. I almost expected it to sound like 'Robby the Robot'! This seems like quite an accomplishment! 73 Dave KB3MOW Paul L Schmidt, K9PS wrote: Is your audio level high enough going into the sound card, or possibly the gain on the mic or aux input needs bumped up a bit? I was playing around a bit earlier watching some signals, and if I got the audio level too low, the displays didn't show anything but I was still decoding. 73 Paul / K9PS / Bloomfield, IN EM69na Dave 'Doc' Corio wrote: Sure do! And excellent decode right now on N0GR in Iowa. Just hard to tune without a visual on the signal. 73 dave Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Dave, Do you see the signature in the text field ? LA5VNA Steinar Dave skrev: I must be missing something here. Decoding several stations right now (1715Z)very well on 14.236 but see absolutely no signal on any of the display types I choose. Hear the decoded voice perfectly, but the display doesn't show any input. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: FDMDV confusion
Thanks, Steinar. That was actually the easy part! Getting enough audio to the software was the big problem. I'm using a Creative Labs Audigy sound card, and it automatically decides if it is mic or line input. I suspect it selected line input, and it just needed to be brought up to a higher level. Got it working perfectly and had a good QSO with it! 73 dave KB3MOW Steinar Aanesland wrote: Hi Dave, A quote for this document http://n1su.com/fdmdv/FDMDV_Docs_Rel_1.0_revised.pdf Tuning: Two methods of tuning are available, Manual Tune and Auto Tune. Both use the mouse pointer that changes to a “+” when moved within the display area. For Auto Tune, just left click anywhere within the display to sync your receive frequency to the TX signal. For Manual Tune, move the mouse pointer to the exact center of the BPSK carriers in the middle of the signal, then right click. I hope this is a help. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar John Becker, WØJAB skrev: Don't know Dave. Really can't say why. Don't use software as I have had a AOR ARD9800 modem in use for the last 5 years now. At 02:14 PM 12/8/2007, you wrote: If that is the case, why is the ability to fine-tune included in FDMDV? I find that many times a ham is a bit high or low in frequency on digital voice, and it becomes necessary to tune them in. Not every radio is perfectly aligned. It also appears that tuning in FDMDV is more critical than other modes, as a change of just a few hertz can make the difference between decoding and not decoding. Dave Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php View the DRCC numbers database at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/database Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Re: FDMDV confusion
Andy, I have just the opposite setup, but see the same results. I use Audigy for all the digital stuff, and the on-board SigmaTel for the Windoze sounds. From what I've seen, FDMDV requires a lot more audio level than any other digital mode I've used. That's not a condemnation of the mode, just an observation. You may have to crank it up as I did to be able to see the peaks to tune on in FDMDV. I think I had the display set on 'Spectrum', and it displayed a green line at the bottom of the display. When the other station transmitted, I right-clicked on the left-most peak on that line, and got good decode, but it did take a bit of experimentation to find the 'Sweet Spot'. It also took a lot higher audio level than required for MultiPSK or WinWarbler. to be able to see that peak. Since I got the Audigy card specifically for digital modes, I haven't been that impressed with it. There is only one input, and it is 'automagically' switched between line in and mic in, making it a real chore to set up a new mode! However, it seems to be as stable and useful as the on-board sound card, so it's at least usable. I was hearing high-quality voice decoding from FDMDV today without seeing a thing on the display, so if you just crank up the input, it should give you a visual as to where to tune. It does seem a bit critical to get the tuning 'right on'. Maybe hook up later on 80 or 40 if you like? 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Dave, I need to learn from you now that I have an Audigy card that I installed last week. I use the on-board soundcard for receiving and transmitting the tones but use the Audigy for the PC speakers . Last week, while testing with Cesco, I decoded two QSOs while just parked on 14236... BUT I could see nothing on the waterfall. This week, around 2.45PM local time I heard several loud digital signals on 14236 but none were visible in the waterfall, no were decoded. Andy K3UK. On Dec 8, 2007 3:37 PM, Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dcorio%40zitomedia.net wrote: Thanks, Steinar. That was actually the easy part! Getting enough audio to the software was the big problem. I'm using a Creative Labs Audigy sound card, and it automatically decides if it is mic or line input. I suspect it selected line input, and it just needed to be brought up to a higher level. Got it working perfectly and had a good QSO with it! 73 dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 12/8/2007 11:59 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Encomm error loading CD
Sorry to question this, Andy, but it looks like I'd be changing it from the standard IDE CD, to a USB-based CD drive. I don't have a USB-based CD drive, so not sure that will help. Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Inside the iso there's a file named isolinux.cfg, which contains the line PMEDIA=idecd . That tells the init script to search for the sfs file on idecd drives... The solution would be to open the iso and change that line to PMEDIA=usbcd . On 10/28/07, *Dave* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else come across the following error when loading Encomm from the CD, or have any idea of a fix for it? I downloaded the .iso file twice and burned two separate CD's with the same results from each Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ Tnx for any help Dave KB3MOW -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Encomm error loading CD
Thanks, Andy. Some good info there, but nothing worked. Just my lot in life, I guess hi! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: dave, Poke around here... http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22027 http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22027 --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone else come across the following error when loading Encomm from the CD, or have any idea of a fix for it? I downloaded the .iso file twice and burned two separate CD's with the same results from each Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ Tnx for any help Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Encomm error loading CD
Problem is, I can't get to the desktop. Mine never completes the boot process. Tnx anyway es 73 Dave KB3MOW Chuck - AA5J wrote: I did not run into that exact situation, but after installing, there were two icons on the desktop that had links that were broken. Operating on memory, one was fldigi and the other was help. The problem was reported as ... not found in /root. Both were in directories within /root. You can fix that by right clicking the icon in question and editing to the correct location. 73, Chuck - AA5JAt 11:49 AM 10/28/2007, Dave wrote: Has anyone else come across the following error when loading Encomm from the CD, or have any idea of a fix for it? I downloaded the .iso file twice and burned two separate CD's with the same results from each Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ Tnx for any help Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Encomm error loading CD
The truth is, I couldn't figure out how to verify the checksum. The directions on the website looked as though they were for Linux, and as I'm using a Windows OS, I didn't think those instructions would work for me. Was I wrong? 73 Dave KB3MOW Chuck Mayfield wrote: Did you verify the MD5SUM on the .iso file? I would expect a bad download. It may be a pain, but I would suggest you download again if the MD5SUM does not compare. Best regards, Chuck Mayfield Success is the ability to go from failure to failure without losing your enthusiasm. ~ Sir Winston Churchill At 03:22 PM 10/28/2007, Dave 'Doc' Corio wrote: Problem is, I can't get to the desktop. Mine never completes the boot process. Tnx anyway es 73 Dave KB3MOW Chuck - AA5J wrote: I did not run into that exact situation, but after installing, there were two icons on the desktop that had links that were broken. Operating on memory, one was fldigi and the other was help. The problem was reported as ... not found in /root. Both were in directories within /root. You can fix that by right clicking the icon in question and editing to the correct location. 73, Chuck - AA5JAt 11:49 AM 10/28/2007, Dave wrote: Has anyone else come across the following error when loading Encomm from the CD, or have any idea of a fix for it? I downloaded the .iso file twice and burned two separate CD's with the same results from each Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ Tnx for any help Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Encomm error loading CD
I've been told that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If that is true, then I am indeed overqualified! Just downloaded for the third time and burned the CD for the third time. Thanks to Rein I was able to verify the checksum as being valid, but the same error still presents itself on each and every boot attempt. In answer to one question, yes, the CD is bootable. It boots fine for a bit, but always ends up at this error: Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ Just for fun, I tried booting the CD on the XYL's computer. Hers is a Gateway P-IV running at 2.7 Ghz with 1 Gig of RAM. Hers got farther than mine did in the boot process. Hers got to: puppyserialdetect is running It hung there for a few minutes, so I finally gave up on it. My PC is also a Gateway, 2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo, with 2 Gig of RAM. The only difference I know of between hers and mine is that my hard drives are SATA and not IDE. Not sure if the CD drive is SATA or IDE, but I suppose that could make a difference. Thanks for all the help and suggestions! 73 Dave KB3MOW Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] A tad off-topic - Excess coax
Hi, Chuck. Since that is just about the exact dimension for a choke balun from the original Windom design, would it have any effect on the impedance? I suppose I could just wrap it up and see for myself, but thought I should at least be nice enoough to respond, since you took the time to answer my post. Tnx! Dave KB3MOW Chuck Mayfield wrote: If it were my station, I would wrap it around a 3 to 4 inch form and lay it behind the operating table. That would further limit RF noise and would do no harm to SWR. Best regards, Chuck Mayfield Neither a lofty degree of intelligence nor imagination nor both together go to the making of genius. Love, love, love, that is the soul of genius. ~ Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart At 11:45 AM 10/28/2007, Dave wrote: Just put up a coax-fed Windom antenna and have about 15-20 feet of excess coax. I'd prefer to keep the overall length of the coax, just not sure if coiling it or laying it out flat would be better. I know the older Windoms needed a tight coil of coax near the antenna, but the 1:1 balun in this one should negate that. Any ideas on which might be better? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1096 - Release Date: 10/27/2007 11:02 AM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Encomm error loading CD
I haven't given up just yet! Just giving my head a rest from beating it against the wall hi hi! Andrew O'Brien wrote: FYI Dave, mine is an Emachine, esentially a cheap Gateway. Runs fine on mine. On 10/28/07, Dave 'Doc' Corio [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:dcorio%40zitomedia.net wrote: I've been told that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. If that is true, then I am indeed overqualified! Just downloaded for the third time and burned the CD for the third time. Thanks to Rein I was able to verify the checksum as being valid, but the same error still presents itself on each and every boot attempt. In answer to one question, yes, the CD is bootable. It boots fine for a bit, but always ends up at this error: Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ Just for fun, I tried booting the CD on the XYL's computer. Hers is a Gateway P-IV running at 2.7 Ghz with 1 Gig of RAM. Hers got farther than mine did in the boot process. Hers got to: puppyserialdetect is running It hung there for a few minutes, so I finally gave up on it. My PC is also a Gateway, 2.0 Ghz Core 2 Duo, with 2 Gig of RAM. The only difference I know of between hers and mine is that my hard drives are SATA and not IDE. Not sure if the CD drive is SATA or IDE, but I suppose that could make a difference. Thanks for all the help and suggestions! 73 Dave KB3MOW Announce your digital presence via our Interactive Sked Page at http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php http://www.obriensweb.com/drsked/drsked.php Yahoo! Groups Links -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.12/1097 - Release Date: 10/28/2007 1:58 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Testing Slowfeld on 30m
That made it a bit easier! Looks like it uses the default Windows sound card, correct? Andrew O'Brien wrote: take the last period out of the URL On 10/21/07, *Dave* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did the software get pulled from being available? The web site comes back as not found since this morning. 73 Dave KB3MOW --- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com mailto:digitalradio%40yahoogroups.com, Steinar Aanesland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have a test transmission going on. The frequency is 10.140 and the mode is Slowfeld. I have been playing with qr in Slowfeld.for a while and it is great fun. This evening I am trying a new slowfeld software from Lionel Sear, G3PPT, I found on the web-page belonging to NL9222 Ko Versteeg. http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222/soundcard/slowfeldxp.zip. http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Enl9222/soundcard/slowfeldxp.zip. The frequency will be 10.140 (dial 10.139) and 0.75 char/min mode. The power is very low , only 100mW, but it has already been picket up by my qr ham friend Peter pa1sdb. He has a screen grabber on his PC, and you can see the result here : http://members.home.nl/peter- http://members.home.nl/peter- knol/pa1sdb.jpg Would you give it a try to catch me? The beacon will be on for some hours. 73 de LA5VNA Steinar PS: I have seen this discussion about how to express yourself . Do not forget that not everyone have English as their mother tongue. I am writing in a Norwegian version of English, so I hope I am not completely far out in how to express ;) -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.5/1084 - Release Date: 10/21/2007 3:09 PM
Re: [digitalradio] NBEMS boot problem
Sure am. As I said, it begins the normal boot process typical of a Linux OS, but errors out after a bit. I did two separate downloads and burned two separate CDs, and each shows exactly the same results. 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Are you burning the download as a ISO image Dave ? On 10/20/07, *Dave* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just tried for a second time, and get the same results when trying to boot from the CD. It loads to a point, then stops, with an error message that says: Error, cannot find Puppy on 'cd' boot media. PUPMODE=1 PDEV1= Exited to initial-ramdisk(initramfs)commandline... (the Linux-guru can now debug. 'e3' editor is available) /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off #_ And there it lays. Unsure if it requires input at this point or earlier in the boot process. First CD had the identical error. Thanks in advance Dave KB3MOW -- Andy K3UK www.obriensweb.com http://www.obriensweb.com (QSL via N2RJ) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.3/1081 - Release Date: 10/19/2007 5:41 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Current balun
I was not trying to be vague, but I guess it came out that way. After I posted, I continued to do some research, and hopefully I have a better handle on it. Sounds like a 6:1 balun would work for 50 ohm coax feeding an antenna with 300 ohm impedance, and a 4:1 would work feeding a 200 ohm impedance. My understanding of a balun was limited to balanced (dipole or ladder line) to unbalanced (coax). Never really looked into the various values, as the only one I ever used was 1:1. Thanks for the responses! 73 Dave KB3MOW [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave wrote: I understand the basics of using a balun, but have a question about the specifics. Using a dipole, what would be the difference between using a 4:1 balun compared to a 6:1 balun? Which would I choose, and why would I choose it? Planning on feeding the dipole direct from the tuner in my IC-746 (non-Pro), if that makes a difference. Sorry to have to ask this Dave, but if you understand the basics, why don't you know the difference between a 6:1 and a 4:1 transformer ratio? What impedances are you trying to transform to/from? The 4:1 or the 6:1 may, or may not, be applicable anyway. I presume you mean a half wave dipole? Although any antenna with two radiating ends can be called a 'dipole'. What feeder are you planning to use? Open wire feeder or coaxial cable? I presume it will be coaxial cable, as you say you want to go from Unbalanced (feeder) to Balanced (antenna). So, what is the ratio of the impedance of the feeder to the antenna? If it is a dipole (75 ohms in perfect space) to 50 ohm coaxial cable, you have a problem! You probably want a 1:1 balun, even though the dipole feed point is not going to be 75 ohms as it's probably too close to buildings or the ground. Looking at the last part of your question. You are trying to use an Unbalanced to Unbalanced tuner in your radio, presumably feeding coaxial cable up to the dipole at the top of the feeder? Well the ratio of the impedance at the point where the dipole elements meet the coaxial feeder will vary dependant upon the length of the wire in the dipole/doublet and the characteristic impedance of the coaxial cable feeding it. So, the real anser is that 4:1 or 6:1 is only relavant at particular frequencies, with specific wire lengths on the doublet and for specific feeder impedance. Sorry, but your question is just too wide for a specific answer... Dave (G0DJA) Dave (G0DJA) No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1078 - Release Date: 10/18/2007 5:47 PM
Re: [digitalradio] Monitor interference
Depending on the monitor, you may be able to change the sync frequency in it. This may move the interference but will probably not eliminate it. Changing my sync frequency in my old CRT moved the interference to parts of the bands that I don't use. The monitor manual should tell you what frequencies you can use. If you can use several different ones, increase the frequency one step at a time. You may get flicker at some of the frequencies, so it might take a little experimentation. I recently got an Acer AL2016W LCD flat screen, and have absolutely no interference from it within the ham bands that I use, although I understand such interference is possible from them. GL es 73 Dave KB3MOW Bob Henning wrote: Hi Folks, I just found this groupa few weeks ago and have just been lurking. I have a Buxcomm interface on the way to my QTH, It may be here tomorrow or Tuesday. My question is I am getting some noise/interference from my monitor (Regular CRT, not lcd flatscreen) on my radio. The radio is a Yeasu FT-101Z. IS there any fiz for this interference problem ? Also, do the new LCD flat screen monitors have the same problem ?? Thanks Bob KC9GMN Clinton, Ill No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.3/1054 - Release Date: 10/6/2007 7:12 PM
Re: [digitalradio] PC Monitors for ham use?
Andy, I got an Acer AL2016W 20 widescreen LCD monitor for $188. I expected junk, but have been pleasantly surprised. Very important to me is the fact that the interference I used to have from the CRT on HF completely disappeared - or at least moved out of the ham bands! Even more important is the fact that I can now fit all of my DXLab windows on one monitor! It also has inputs for analog or digital video, although it doesn't have built in speakers, or TV input. It was also the only one in my price range that had a 3-year warranty. If you do decide to get one, a couple of tips. Get the fastest refresh rate you can afford. This one is 5 ms, and I get no streaking or smearing with video or games. I hear that 8 ms refresh rate can do that, but haven't seen it for myself. Also, as soon as you get the monitor hooked up, download a pixel-checking program, such as Dead Pixel Buddy. Some LCD monitors will have dead pixels in varying quantities. A few scattered around the display may not be noticeable, but several clumped together can make an obvious hole in your display. Find out in advance what the return policy is for dead pixels! Some manufacturers hide the fact that they won't allow an exchange unless there is a certain number of dead ones! Lots of sizes and makes out there now, and prices keep dropping. Have fun shopping! 73 Dave KB3MOW Andrew O'Brien wrote: Any thoughts on a wide screen PC monitor versus a standard screen? I'm thinking of adding a 21 inch wide screen.
Re: [digitalradio] Very confused
Hi, Andy. yep, positive. That's the first thing I checked. If that were the case, I'd have a devil of a time making a contact, and that isn't the case. I've made many in the same time period, so that doesn't seem to be the problem. Just strange for it to happen this many times. Congrats on the nice mention in QST by the way! Andrew O'Brien wrote: Odd, are you sure you are transmitting on your receive frequency? If so, then maybe it is just new PSKers on 10M band. On 6/30/07, *Dave* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have apparently missed the memo that covered the way calls are made and answered on PSK31. I just answered a CQ sent by one station, only to have a completely different station call me back and start a QSO as if I had answered him! This is at least the 4th or 5th time this has happened in the last week or so, and it seems to be only on 10m PSK. W1XYZ calls CQ, I call W1XYZ de KB3MOW, and K9ABC calls me back with his name, RST, and QTH. I could almost understand if it were a contest and all I answered was a QRZ?, but these are CQs I'm responding to. Where did I go wrong? Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.14/882 - Release Date: 6/30/2007 3:10 PM
Re: [digitalradio] narrow filters/PSK
Thanks, Rick. The 500 Hz makes sense, since some of the modes are over 250 Hz. I have the twin passband, too, but it's just not as effective as I'd like. The APF/ANF on the non-Pro works great on CW, and with just the APF on narrow, I can narrow the passband down to around 30 Hz, but that doesn't do me much good for PSK hi hi! I should have waited for the Pro to come out! Tnx es 73 Dave KB3MOW Hi Dave, Yes, the narrower filters will help a great deal. I have an ICOM rig that needs to be centered on 1500 Hz when operating in SSB modes so I try and move them to that point if I can. Then I have DSP filters that enable me to close the window as tight as I need to. I also have Twin PBT which enables me to dial each side of the interference. But the actual bandpass filters are much more effective with the really strong signals. If I could only have one additional filter than the stock SSB filter, I would go for the 500 Hz filter since it is very useful for CW use as well as narrow to medium digital modes. I have a 270 Hz crystal filter in my Kenwood TS-440SAT that I find rather narrow although some might prefer that for CW. If you go narrower than 500 Hz, you can not use a number of digital modes that are around or slightly under 500 Hz, but may not fit well into at 250 Hz bandpass. 73, Rick, KV9U Dave wrote: Has anyone tried using either a 250 Hz or 500 Hz filter for PSK31 reception? My Icom IC-746 (non-Pro) has no filters installed, and is wide as a barn door on USB for PSK31. I wondered if either of these filters would help, or would they be too narrow? The pass-band shift does a fair job of eliminating QRM from one side or the other of the selected frequency, but when there are two very strong signals within 2 Khz on each side at the same time, they just aren't effective on both. Any input appreciated! Thanks in advance es 73 Dave KB3MOW
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Odd PC Issue
Andy, it looks to me like you may have either a virus or some type of spyware, and that the hard-drive access is eating your lunch. I know you said you scanned for both, but I recall once having a virus that disabled my Mcafee anti-virus, and left it appearing to still work! What programs do you have running on your taskbar at any given time? Anything like a weather bug, a news headline, anything that would requre constant hard-drive access? What anti-virus and anti-spyware are you using, and are they kept up to date? I'd suggest deleting and reinstalling the anti-virus, to be sure that's functional, and I highly recommend Adaware as an anti-spyware program. It's free and seems to catch everything. Just as an aside, the company I work for - a major life insurance carrier - will not allow any computers used for the business to use IE7. There are just too many issues with it to use in this environment. 73 Dave KB3MOW Thanks Bernie, I usually use IE 7 with XP sp2. I am using IE7 to type this message since my test a few minutes ago with Firefox did not replicate the problem. Also looks like IE7 is working OK as I type this. In taskmanger 98 of the CPU is currently listed as system ilde process , alg.exe is using 150,648 of RAM.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: External hard drives?
Excuse me for jumping in here, but I'd like to add one thing. Please be sure the power supply in the PC is capable of carrying the extra load. Many computers being made contain only a bare minimum power supply - usually on the order of 200 or 250 watts. While this is adequate for what is in the PC at the time it is shipped, adding peripherals can overload the power supply. Adding an extra hard drive, CD/DVD burner, video card and audio card can tax a minimal power supply and cause many problems. Usually, just adding one of these is not a major concern, but consider upgrading the power supply if you're adding several. A 450 watt power supply is generally fairly cheap - on the order of $35 to $60, and can save headaches down the road! 73 Dave KB3MOW A computer, intelligent, friend of mine has been educating me of swapping hard drives... For example, drive C..is usually marked at 'master' and the others are marked as slaves The marking is a jumper .. On the bank of your hard drive are three recepticles... The first one is a long plug, of which the data flows... The second plug / receptical contain 4 rather heavy wires.. marked yellow, black, black and red.. they contain the D.C. wiring.. I assume by the colours The third plug has no opposite polarity receptical but contains jumper(s)... This is the jumper which determnes whether or not the hard drive is a slave or master drive... On one side of your hard drive, you should notice some printing which tells you how to make the drive a master or slave... You follow the instructions to make that drive a master or slave This will allow you to put another drive onto your existing computer including removing them should you desire I had three computers.. I took the oldest computer's hard drive out and put them into my newer computer... making the older computer's drive C my newer computer's drive D, or which ever letter was available Now I do realise I have probably drifted somewhat off topic but I hope the information was of some value... Larry ve3fxq
RE: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic, but could use a bit of advice
Thanks, Walt! I'm sure that would work, but it would leave me with a non-adjustable volume, and I do want to be able to adjust it up when it's not annoying to the XYL. I'm going to try a pair of computer speakers tonight when I get home. I'm hoping the volume control on them will make up for the deficiency of the control on the 746. 73 Dave KB3MOW Put an 8 ohm resistor in place of the speaker. Then across the 8 ohm speaker place a 600 ohm resistor in searies with a small 2 speaker. You can vary the series resistor from about 300-1200 ohms to adjust the volumn. The series resistor won't bother the 8 ohm speaker output too much. Walt/K5YFW -Original Message- From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:17 PM To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Subject: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic, but could use a bit of advice I'm feeding audio from my IC-746 (non-Pro) to the PC from the ACC-1 jack so I can have constant audio level. I feed audio from the external speaker jack to an external speaker (novel concept!). The problem I'm encountering is that I share the shack with the XYL, who is only a few feet from me in the evening. No matter how low I turn the audio down on the rig, the sound from the speaker is just a bit too loud. This 746 has a very sensitive AF gain control, so that the audio is either off or too loud. Is there a way I could put a rheostat or potentiometer in the audio line from the external speaker jack that would let me have more control over the audio from the speaker? And if so, what value should I look for to give a broad range of control so I can go from very soft to normal? Thanks in advance! Dave KB3MOW Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: [digitalradio] Digital Video on 12.5khz channel
Paul L Schmidt wrote: But if it's a digitally-compressed data stream that just happens to be carrying video (it *could* be anything, right?) which is it? Perhaps the question needs to be put directly to the FCC as a request for clarification? Ask them if video in the many years old regs intended to regulate analog images and that now technology has progressed such that images may be embedded in digital signals that the digital regs take precedence when considering digital ATV or digital SSTV. WHoever it was that combined the issue of regulation by bandwidth with automatic control did a *MAJOR* dis-service to ham radio. OK, so I'll say it... whoever the IDIOT was that combined the two issues did a major dis-service to ham radio. Tell us how you really feel ... :-) -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Florida Home w/Rohn 45 in concrete base 10 acres for sale: http://bibleseven.cjb.cc/cjb-steelhouse-index.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Digital Video on 12.5khz channel
Sam (M1FJB), when you refer to 12.5kHz do you mean per sideband of a total bandwidth of 12.5 kHz? According to what has just been posted we could run digital video on 6, 2, 220, 440, etc. 6M would be fun because one may cover greater distances! I am not up to date re. 10M, any chance of running this there (in the USA and elsewhere)? KV9U wrote: Paul is correct, the maximum bandwidth permitted on 2 meters is 20 kHz ... at this time. data to be transferred in a 12.5khz channel. -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Florida Home w/Rohn 45 in concrete base 10 acres for sale: http://bibleseven.cjb.cc/cjb-steelhouse-index.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- You can search right from your browser? It's easy and it's free. See how. http://us.click.yahoo.com/_7bhrC/NGxNAA/yQLSAA/ELTolB/TM ~- Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Why PACTOR for WL2K ?
If Linux became more popular, it might be possible to see more PSKmail connections that use ARQ PSK63, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Even though very slow, it is dramatically narrower than the Pactor modes and would cause much less interference to other hams. 73, Rick, KV9U This is a Free turnkey Linux program with Ham apps: http://radio.linux.org.au/pkgdetail.phtml?sectpat=Allordpat=titledescpat=pkgid=406 The author is currently at work updating it. This Linux program Ham apps may be loaded on the same PC that contains one of the Microsoft versions of windows, so there is no reason to not use it and PSKmail. Another option is the really neat just-released Puppy 2.0 tiny Linux. It only uses 70megs and is a complete Free operating system with most of the applications we all use whether under Apple, Linux, or MS. -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Florida Home w/Rohn 45 in concrete base 10 acres for sale: http://bibleseven.cjb.cc/cjb-steelhouse-index.html Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[digitalradio] Sound Processing Preferred Specifications?
What are the preferred specifications for sound processing for the most exacting Ham modes, please? I am beginning the design of a audio chain that will double for Ham and home studio purposes. Is 24-bit/96kHz suitable to meet the needs well into the near-term future? I have Ham interests in ATV, DATV, SSTV, DSSTV, assorted digital modes, and LinRad. My son has interests in audio and video recording and processing and the production of material for streaming Internet audio and perhaps video. I also record and send public service announcements to radio stations from time to time and they have somewhat rigid requirements. -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Florida Home w/Rohn 45 in concrete base 10 acres for sale: http://bibleseven.cjb.cc/cjb-steelhouse-index.html Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] CQ PACTOR 7074kHz afsk de KU2A
Nick wrote: CQing again 1411z. Hope to connect Howard. I will switch to 10137kHz if no answer and then 14074 +/- contester QRM. Does it matter which version of PACTOR is being used? I hope to get on sometime in the next few weeks and am trying to get a handle on the protocols. -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Ham Links: http://bibleseven.com/hl.html Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] CQ PACTOR 7074kHz afsk de KU2A
Not to me. I'm using an AEA PK232MBX PACTOR I here... Bet Ten meters will be pretty good as I'm hearing quite a few strong PSK signals on 10.120 right now at 1430Z. Will be looking for Nick on PACTOR on 7074 at 1411Z as he indicated, then the other freqs as needed. Howard W6IDS Richmond, IN I am guessing that the AEA PK232MBX PACTOR handles Pactor I 2 but not 3? -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Ham Links: http://bibleseven.com/hl.html Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] CQ PACTOR 7074kHz afsk de KU2A
Is then the protocol that unless one specifies Pactor II or Pactor III that one always means Pactor I? That would be helpful for me to know. I was wondering if I told someone Pactor that they might be calling on II or III and I would not hear them with a I-only setup. Thanks! doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NO Sir.The AEA is a vey old AEA Multimode Terminal Unit that can handle PACTOR I only insofar as PACTOR is concerned. I got mine in 1991, in California. Doc KD4E http://bibleseven.com Wrote: I am guessing that the AEA PK232MBX PACTOR handles Pactor I 2 but not 3? -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Ham Links: http://bibleseven.com/hl.html Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: Why PACTOR for WL2K ?
The original question though was whether it wouldn't be better to use a more commonly available (i.e. cheaper) protocol, especially as it would increase the number of potential participants in a true emergency (or drill). I'm not sure that's really the right way to think about it though, given the nature of the available protocols, bandwidth, and human nature to participate in 'aid work', it might actually be a more responsive usable network if the number of pmbo's and the number of stations connecting to them was limited. Similar to the digipeater problem, where too many makes the network performance much worse rather than better. If we could all of a sudden have both an unregulated number of pmbo's on the air, and a proportionally larger number of stations routing traffic to them, it's fairly likely that the entire network would collapse, and little to no traffic would get through. I know we (the hams with an interest in emergency response volunteerism) don't like to feel as though there is an economic filter preventing us from participating, but it may in fact be a good thing, that there is a practical limit to the system. Erik KI4HMS I need to share two qualifiers here: 1. Due to the impossibility of predicting where and how a given disaster may impact a region one must and should strategize for the greatest possible redundancy. 2. It is a trivial matter to establish a protocol for the handling of digital traffic the same as it is for voice or CW traffic. Simply add a station ID filter for those you wish to include or exclude. This is part of the task of the Incident Command - Communications folks. They first need to assess their resources, could be all of those they hoped for, none of those they hoped for, or just some holes. They assign resources as needed and screen-out or redirect those they do not need either to standby, join a different system, or QSY. It seems like standard NET protocol. Am I missing something? -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e http://bibleseven.com Ham Links: http://bibleseven.com/hl.html Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] unzip stops at 2 percent
after a two hour plus dial up download,[logger32 2,7] I attempted to unzip it, and each timeit wouldstop at 2 percent, any suggestions on how to get it to %100?? tnx ron wa5fbf Are you running Bill Gates' MS version of windows on an older pc with limited resources? If so you may be running out of RAM or HDD space. Have you run defrag lately? -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e bibleseven.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] microKEYER replies
I want to thank everyone for their responses. All of the responses were from good to excellent about the microKEYER. John, Have you considered collating the responses and posting a summary list here? There may be some interesting applications and features in use out there that others may wish to explore. I sure would like to know if anyone is using theirs with Linux yet. -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e bibleseven.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] KB2EOQ Quick Dirty Guide To PSK and Digitalmodes ?
Andrew O'Brien wrote: A few years ago I wrote the KB2EOQ Quick Dirty Guide to PSK and Digitalmodes . It was quite polular and was downloaded from my web site fairly often. I went to look for it today and realized that I left my only copy on my old web site and therefor cannot access it. There are many links to in on the Internet but all point to my old web site. I wonder if anyone anctually saved this HTML file to their hard drive, if so I would love a copy. Andy K3UK Oh man Andy, y'all messed up their link too ... http://www.digitalham.net/ Giggle! -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e bibleseven.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [digitalradio] Re: Do we really need to know?
I wish they HAD typing when I was in school! There was an Economics class for the girls that included it, but no young man ever dared sign up for it back then hI! But on the plus side, using two fingers and a thumb I can type 42 wpm error-free! Unfortunately, way too late for me to unlearn Hunt-N-Peck, and relearn touch typing! If only Mavis Beacon had been around way back when!! 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message-From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of KV9USent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 2:34 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [digitalradio] Re: Do we really need to know?Of all the skills that learned in school (and beyond), typing has been one of the most important and most used. I had a strong desire to learn when still in grade school but back then there was no program to teach the skill. (I grew up mostly on a farm and went to a rural one room school). I did not want any credit or grade, only the ability to do it and so signed up for "personal typing" in my sophomore year of high school. Needless to say, I was kicked out of the class since you had to be at least a Junior (3rd year) in high school to take the class. Ironically, you could take the full year class for credit and grade as a sophomore.Today things are much better for students here in the U.S. as it became aware to educators that keyboarding is such a vital skill. It can make the difference between success and failure in so many kinds of work today. Very few jobs I have had over the years (police work in the military, running a repair facility, working as an energy consultant and now as an environmental and facilities management consultant) could have been done as well, or in as practical a manner, without good keyboarding skills and the ability to use computers in my day to day work.What better way to keep using those skills than by digital radio communication:) I sometimes think that I was born at the right time in the way that technology unfolded and that is probably true for other hams here too.73,Rick, KV9Urich wrote:LOL big time. I am a 2 finger typer. Works gr8 for me 200+countries later on digimodes.Thanks to Andy, K3UK and Ristos', W6RK efforts with the digimodeclusters just got 4 more in the last few days. You guys got a gr8thing going...thanks. As for typing...it's for court clerks and secrateries (SP?)nothams. We do best we canI better not get started on this reallystupid subject.73 Rich K2TFT Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[digitalradio] digital RTTY software question
Can someone help Bob out? doc Original Message Subject: GB digital RTTY software question (OT) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 15:17:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Bob Roehrig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: glowbugs [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for this question but I am looking for a program called olivia. Anyone know where to get it? Bob Roehrig Aurora UniversityTelecom dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] K9EUI W9ZGP WC2XSR/11 WD2XSH/19 630-844-4898 fax 630-844-4222 Nostalgia is a thing of the past -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e bibleseven.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [digitalradio] 160 meter digital
Tell me a time, frequency, and mode, and I'll be happy to give a listen, but doubt you will hear me. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message-From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, April 10, 2006 2:19 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [digitalradio] 160 meter digital anyone care to try digital 160 metres tonight? chris G7OGX Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic - antenna question
Thanks, John! I will have each leg at 67.5 feet, but the inverted vee angle of 120 degrees is going to be rough to attain. It will probably end up being pretty much flat. 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message-From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of John BradleySent: Monday, April 10, 2006 6:59 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic - antenna question No. the length is not critical The dipole shopuld be fairly long each side, like 65 feet or so, and whatever ladderline length is convienient. Keep the ladder line away from metal objects like masting , rain gutters etc on it's way into your shack, and you will need a balun or tuner to match to your rig. This antenna is actually called a Zepp, and if you ensure that the angle at the center feed is more than 120 degrees between the 2 legs, it will work the best. I use this on all bands 160 thru 6 meters with great sucess. John VE5MU - Original Message - From: Dave To: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: [digitalradio] A bit off-topic - antenna question I know this is not an antenna forum, but hoping that all the experience represented here can assist me.When using a dipole antenna fed with 450-ohm ladderline, does the length of the feedline matter? The dipole I'm going to order comes with 100 feet of ladderline, but I'll likely only use 40 or 50. Is it safe to cut off the length not needed, or will this mess things up? If I can't cut it, what do I do with it?Thanks in advance 73DaveKB3MOW No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.0.385 / Virus Database: 268.4.1/307 - Release Date: 4/10/06 Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [digitalradio] Re: A bit off-topic - antenna question
Aw, but "cut-and-hope" is so much more of an an adventure hi hi! I kind of assumed that coiling was not an option, and since my house has metal siding, running it along under the eaves is out of the question. I appreciate all these answers! Tnx es 73! Dave -Original Message-From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Chris JewellSent: Sunday, April 09, 2006 8:31 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: [digitalradio] Re: A bit off-topic - antenna questionDave writes:... When using a dipole antenna fed with 450-ohm ladderline, does the length of the feedline matter? The dipole I'm going to order comes with 100 feet of ladderline, but I'll likely only use 40 or 50. Is it safe to cut off the length not needed, or will this mess things up? If I can't cut it, what do I do with it?...Short answer: you can probably cut it to length; the settings on yourantenna tuner will be different, but it will still work. OBTW: you do*not* want to COIL UP excess ladder line: it is too easy to disturbthe balance of the line that way, causing the line to radiate.Slightly longer answer: the 450-ohm line transforms the impedance ofthe center-fed doublet to some other impedance at the antenna side ofyour tuner, and the tuner transforms *that* to the 50 ohms that therig needs. It seems unlikely to me that a different-lengthwindow line will happen to transform the antenna impedance tosomething that an external tuner cannot in turn transform to 50 ohmson one of your operating frequencies, but I could be wrong.An equation giving the input impedance at the transmission line as afunction of the characteristic impedance of the line, the feedpointimpedance of the antenna (different for each frequency), and thelength of the transmission line in wavelengths (also different foreach frequency), can be found in the "Input Impedance" section of the"Transmission Lines" chapter of the _ARRL_Antenna_Book_. (It's onp. 24-12 in the 20th edition.)Jose's reply is correct, and I suggest learning about the stuff thathe mentions. It will certainly be educational if you work out theanswers using antenna modelling software (to determine the feedpointimpedance) and the equation for input impedance, instead of justtaking my guess that it'll work okay.73 DE AE6VW, Chris-- Chris Jewell [EMAIL PROTECTED] PO Box 1396 Gualala CA 95445 707-884-9406 Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: microKEYER questions
I use a MicroKeyer on portable operations with my ic706; it has worked flawlessly. Quite a few DXLab users have MicroKeyers; I've heard lots of praise, but no complaints. 73, Dave, AA6YQ Anyone know who is doing the Linux app development for the MicroKeyer? Sure would be good to know where they are in that process. -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e bibleseven.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[digitalradio] Re: [Was: First HELL ...] Optimizing Digital - Olivia vs Pactor QRM
came on. In this case it was Pactor, but could of been anything
really. There must have been an urgent message to get through, and the
entire internet was down. Clowns.
73 - N7OR
Andrew O'Brien wrote:
Earlier today I was working a German station via Olivia 1000/32.
While copying , a PACTOR station came on very loud and totally covered
the Olivia signal in my waterfall. Amazingly, I copied the DL 100%
throughout the PACTOR transmission.
Andrew:
Can you describe your digital station setup, please?
As I set mine up I'd like to learn from what you
are using so that I may maximize effectiveness.
I am guessing that it is not merely the Olivia
1000/32 mode that allowed you to copy through the
Pactor QRM but also some elements of your setup
that provided exceptional selectivity and filtering.
Sure appreciate any hints!
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[digitalradio] Re: Optimizing Digital - Olivia vs Pactor QRM
Can you describe your digital station setup, please? As I set mine up I'd like to learn from what you are using so that I may maximize effectiveness. I am guessing that it is not merely the Olivia 1000/32 mode that allowed you to copy through the Pactor QRM but also some elements of your setup that provided exceptional selectivity and filtering. Sure appreciate any hints! Nope, nothing to do with me, it is all Olivia. I am using a 15 year radio (TS440) and run Olivia with stock SSB filters. Software was MixW today although I also use Multipsk for Olivia. Andy K3UK Wow, that's great to hear! Am running a FT-890SAT here so it should do as well. Was the Pactor station really strong and Olivia still screened it out or was it of equal or lesser signal strength to yours and the other station? Anything about antennas, path, or propagation that may have been an obvious factor or does Olivia routinely handle Pactor QRM that easily? I wonder if the Pactor stations were impacted by the presence of your Olivia QSO? -- Thanks! 73, doc kd4e bibleseven.com Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [digitalradio] Re: No Transmit
I have MixW set up with my 746 with no problem. Under the menu dropdown "Configure", select TRCVR CAT/PTT Make sure PTT via CAT Command is checked Make sure the Com Port is not checked for disabled. Also under "Configure", be sure that Disable CAT is not checked. GL es 73 Dave KB3MOW -Original Message-From: digitalradio@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Andrew O'BrienSent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 8:35 PMTo: digitalradio@yahoogroups.comSubject: [digitalradio] Re: No Transmit--- In digitalradio@yahoogroups.com, "mac2251" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I purchased a new HP computer and installed MixW and N1MM logger. The CAT works fine and the receive is fine but no transmit. Speakers connected to my outboard sound card have transmit tones but the 746 shows no power out. I have tried all the settings I can think of but nothing works. It was working fine on the old antique :( Any one have any ideas. Thanks...Mike K9HCKIs it a laptop or desktop PC? Some laptops, and an occasional desktop have soundcards that provide insuffient audio levels, not enough to drive the rig. I have helped solve this for a couple of people by taking the PC's audio to a amplified system of sorts, one where you can slowly raise the volume of the audio getting to the rig. Keep the audio levels as low as possible and slowly raise it, see if the rigs output rises. That has worked a few times, just enough to find out what the problem was, or wasn't. Then they got new sounds cards with more output.Of course it coule be a 746 setting but I know nothing about that radio.Oh, did you check your cable leading from soundcard to rig? I have heard of a few cases where, after hours of trying the "obvious" they found it to be simply a bad cable connector.Also, is there a different device setting you can try? I had one software application that for some odd reason had much lower audio output if I chose the device setting for my actual sound card. Instead, "default device " worked better.Andy K3UK Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) SPONSORED LINKS Ham radio Craft hobby Hobby and craft supply YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "digitalradio" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [digitalradio] Re: The microHAM DIGI KEYER: No upconversion/downconversion with decimation/reca
Is there any reason why only the proprietary MS and Apple
OS's are listed. Will this device not support Linux?
Because we have tested it with WIndosXP and Apple OS 10. The
codec used is supported by the current LINUX distributions. An
independent developer is currently working on a LINUX version of
the driver/control program for microKEYER, CW KEYER and DIGI KEYER.
Since that effort is an independent effort I have no idea when it
will be released.
I have suffered with prospective software releases in
the past only to have the associated hardware sit on
the shelf. Will await the release of a fully functional
Linux app.
In the meanwhile I would be interested to learn if anyone
has read the voice-to-text for digital modes article in
the current QST and used it with mH-DK?
It would be interesting to learn if voice-to-text generated
digital text will work OK.
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[digitalradio] Re: The microHAM DIGI KEYER -- MISSING?
Full features and specifications are available at:
www.microHAM-USA.com/Products.dk.html
The link above is broken and dumps one off to a
http://billing.qth.com/404.php URL for some odd
reason.
There is no reference to a DIGI KEYER on the
main page: www.microHAM-USA.com
Has the device been withdrawn for some reason
or have Internet gremlins been at it again?
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[digitalradio] Log Periodic Antenna Better for ALE?
This discussion just occurred on an antenna and tower
discussion list and it seems it is relevant here as
well.
Is a Log Periodic antenna better for modes like ALE?
doc
Have you e-mailed Roger at Tennadyne [EMAIL PROTECTED] He or
Chuck KA1PM (the former owner) [EMAIL PROTECTED] can give you some really
good advice. I've talked to several hams who have the T8 and they tell
me they're using it on 6m with no decrease in performance even though
its not cut for it. The T11 is a T8 with 3 elements for 6m is what
Chuck the former owner told me.
I opted for the T10 and have been well pleased with it, it beats the
heck out of the triband 3 element beam I had before. I worked K7C and
3Y0X on 20 barefoot with a Kenwood TS 430S and the T10 is FLAT on all
bands all the way across, CW or phone portions. The 3Y0X op, 2 calls, I
worked could not believe I was barefoot at the time I worked him.
My T10, which my XYL CHeryl (WY5H) bought for my birthday a couple yeas
ago) is at 50 ft. on a TriEx W51 crankup. I can only say great and
positive things about Tennadyne and I'm one of the world's worst
procrastinators.
73 de
Tom, WW5L / V31EF / 7P8TA (with a T6) / G0-WW5L / guest op at KH6BB /
and soon to be C91TA with a T8 at 50 feet from Mozambique at the end of
June and first two weeks of July. Listen for me. Even with low
sunspots I expect to put lots of stateside calls in the log with the T8.
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Re: [digitalradio] Log Periodic Antenna Better for ALE?
I opted for the T10 and have been well pleased with it, it beats the
heck out of the triband 3 element beam I had before. I worked K7C and
3Y0X on 20 barefoot with a Kenwood TS 430S and the T10 is FLAT on all
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worked could not believe I was barefoot at the time I worked him.
My T10, which my XYL CHeryl (WY5H) bought for my birthday a couple yeas
ago) is at 50 ft. on a TriEx W51 crankup. I can only say great and
positive things about Tennadyne and I'm one of the world's worst
procrastinators.
Hi Tom,
I'm glad to read this as I have been toying with the idea of purchasing a
T-10 to replace my tribander. I also have a 52 ft crank up tower. Perhaps
you have helped me make a final decsion! :)
73 Buddy WB4M
I have been planning to put up a Force 12 C3SS beam
that I purchased used over a year ago. It is supposed
to be excellent on 20/15/10/6M and may be tuned on
12/17M
Is there gathered consensus that a log periodic would
be a more versatile antenna for WARC and ALE apps,
though perhaps sacrificing some band-specific gain on
10/15/20M?
What about the difference in size? At least here in
FL wind load is important and everywhere the cost of
a larger rotator to handle a larger beam can be
prohibitive.
The Tennadyne T6 has a 12' boom, weighs 37lbs, presents
6.2sqft of wind resistance, and has a 20' turning radius.
The Force 12 C3SS has a 12' boom, weighs 27lbs, presents
4.4sq ft of wind resistance, and has a 13.6' turning radius.
The Tennadyne T8 has a 18' boom, 58lbs, 8sqft wind
esistance, and a 20.9' turning radius, the T10 has
a 24' boom, 69lbs, 10.1sqft wind resistance, and a
22' turning radius. They also offer larger models.
WDYT?
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Re: [digitalradio] Re: Oldest Rigs That Handle ALE?
Yes, the 735 requires a CI-V level converter. You can purchase third-
party units for ~$30, or build one yourself for under $10; let me
know if you want a schematic.
The 735 has a longterm reliability problem with VFO capacitors; ask
on the Icom reflector for the gory details.
73, Dave, AA6YQ
Turns out that the 735 required major repairs, at least
major to me, so I have passed it on to a qualified person.
So, now I have a Yaesu FT-890AT (not ALE capable) a
TenTec 580/Delta (relay switching is noisy and too slow
for full ALE) and a Gonset G-76 (ancient boatanchor, no
chance of ALE though perhaps some simple digital modes).
Any thoughts about these rigs?
TenTec Omni VI+ is said to be excellent for digital modes
but I do not know about ALE.
TenTec Jupiter also a solid rig, not sure about ALE.
TenTec Argonaut V icludes the TCXO and fan kit and is
said to be PSK31-ready but ALE? It is also only 20W
and I'd guess anything but a broadband amp would be
to kludgy for ALE.
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[digitalradio] Oldest Rigs That Handle ALE?
I have a FT-890AT that I understand cannot do ALE.
I have access to a TenTec 580 and an Icom 735 and am
guessing neither of them is up to the task either.
What are the under-$1,000 (preferably closer to $500)
Ham rigs that can handle ALE, please?
I really would like to be equipped for all modes and
am currently stymied only re. ALE because of my rig
(and Pactor II/III due to prohibitive proprietary
costs.)
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Re: [digitalradio] PSKmail again
PSK Mail looks interesting despite the daunting prospect of installing
a Linuk OS. However, my amateur radio set-up involves PC to radio
interfaces that require Windows based virtual serial ports for rig
control. How is rig control achieved with PSKmail?
Andy K3UK
Try Puppy Linux as it about installs itself,
requires minimal resources to run and to use
of your HDD space, and will either dual-load
alongside your MS version of windows or run
from the CD.
http://puppylinux.com/
It is a complete OS that includes office apps
and other apps, plus a bunch of others to download.
There are also multiple versions created by users
that emphasize graphics or small size or office
use, etc. I am hoping someone will develop one
optimized for Ham radio as well. (There is a Ham
one out there but it does not use the Puppy base
and I just don't want to have to learn the
quirks of another setup.)
Oh, and everything is entirely free.
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Re: [digitalradio] ALE in Emergency HF use (Re: Another look at ALE)
Really, when you get down to it, the biggest strong points of ALE is
the standard itself, since it is becoming nearly ubiquitous built in
to government and commercial transceivers. There are so many EOC,
SHARES, NGO organizations, and government HF stations now that have
ALE built in to their transceivers... in an emergency, the ability to
inter-operate using available HF equipment is a big advantage.
As I look at ALE in the mix of digital modes, especially
from a redundancy perspective, the great weaknesses are:
1. Tiny installed base outside of government and
professional emergency response agencies and responders
and a few volunteer emergency response groups. (Reasons,
beyond lack of interest, may be found in the
following categories.)
2. Difficulty of full-featured use with commonly
available HF transceivers. (I don't recall if ALE
software will function on anything but the proprietary
MS version of windows. If so that leaves millions of
Apple and Linux users out of the picture.)
3. Difficulty of use with commonly owned antennas.
(Broadband HF antennas are rare and most are either
terribly lossy or barely efficient, limiting range
and low-signal effectiveness.)
4. Cost of hardware with embedded ALE.
5. Multiple competing digital modes.
Bonnie and a few others have invested the thousands
of dollars and thousands of hours to develop fine
ALE resources, that is a good thing but is not a
model we can expect huge numbers of Hams to emulate.
For redundancy, because disasters don't care about
the location of pre-staged gear, we need emergency
response modes to be commonly available and easy to
operate.
Good work has been done out there but we still have
a ways to go.
IMHO, YMMV ...
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Re: [digitalradio] Anyone running digital modes on these rigs?
Thanks!
doc
Well, I am not now running digital on my 580, but I did before I got the
Jupiter. Worked like a charm. Now the 580 lurks in the background,
hoping for the day it can return.
73 Mark
On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 22:12:44 -0600 doc [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anyone running digital modes on these rigs?
TenTec 580 Delta (not the Delta II)?
Or *any* tube rig, perhaps with a VFO Stabilizer
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Re: [digitalradio] Anyone running digital modes on these rigs?
I am thinking of a Galaxy V MK2 or an even older
Gonset G-76 modified for DSB.
Someone sells a VFO stabilizer device which may
work to make either stable enough.
Either that or I could dedicate the FT-890 to
digital and use the Galaxy (400W) for voice.
John Bradley wrote:
up until december I ran all my digi on a TS530, which was very stable
and worked like a charm.. an oldie but goodie,
kinda like a lot of operators, hi hi
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Re: [digitalradio] Pictures Audio of Digital Modes?
Any pictures on the Web of how these various modes look on the
waterfall? I've received PSK31, RTTY and Feld Hell, but lately I've been
finding signals that I have been unable to decode even after trying
every available mode with the latest MultiPSK.
If I could narrow things down by the appearance of the signal, then
maybe I could get everything working OK by playing with the program's
options.
Alan NV8A
Try these:
http://rover.wiesbaden.netsurf.de/~signals/DIG_intro.htm
http://kb9ukd.com/digital/
http://www.wunclub.com/
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[digitalradio] Anyone running digital modes on these rigs?
Anyone running digital modes on these rigs?
TenTec 580 Delta (not the Delta II)?
Or *any* tube rig, perhaps with a VFO Stabilizer
added?
I need to add a backup rig to my FT-890at and
have to find something *very* affordable.
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[digitalradio] Five DTV Links Posted
I have posted five links to DTV information
sites on the Internet:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dtv-ham/links/
Please add any resources you can identify re.
Amateur Radio and DTV.
Also, please share your stories, or any you have
found, that describe progress in Amateur Radio
toward increased use of DTV.
I would personally be especially interested in
Amateur DTV apps that run under the Linux operating
system but please share anything you find!
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[digitalradio] Re: [Packet] OT: Attention Software Authors
John,
Could your new list include Apple, Linux, and MS apps
as well as a Linux menu? I have your Rigblaster Plus and
could only locate three Linux apps in one folder on the CD.
The menu structure and most content is MS-specific.
Also, could you include Amateur DTV apps for all three
operating systems? DTV for Amateur Radio looks like an
exciting new(er) mode and I have just created a discussion
list http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dtv-ham/ to host the
gathering of information.
I have not yet used it and only recently even heard
about it. Sure looks like a great mode for emergency
and hobby image communications.
Thanks! 73, doc kd4e
I have the unenviable task of updating the West Mountain Radio
Software Collection. I was charged with this project in hopes of
having an up to date compilation of digital modes available for the
Dayton Hamvention. If you are not familiar with it, the West Mountain
Radio Software Collection is a CD collection of soundcard digital
modes. It has been included in all our RIGblaster products since day
one and has been distributed to more than 50,000 ham radio operators
around the world. It is included free in our products, sold
separately at a price that covers its production costs, and given
away free at many hamfests and conferences.
I cordially invite all software authors who would like their works
included to submit their latest versions of their programs. We are
looking for freeware shareware digital soundcard modes and rig
control. Please also include info on your website so we can update
our links page.
Please submit directly to me, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
73 and thanks in advance for the help.
John Kalotai
Sales and Service
West Mountain Radio
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Re: [digitalradio] New poll for digitalradio
I was unaware there was a DigiPol group. It is my view that we should carry on such discussions there, though reference to a post re. Amateur-digital regs and policies may be made in a post here. For Example: ~ I am considering MFSK13 and SSTV as modes of choice but am concerned about investing the time and money is those modes due to possible bandplan changes here in the USA and elsewhere. I have posted my concerns on the DigiPol list and would very much appreciate your perspectives. ~~~ Would that be an acceptable post if discussions of regs and policies were moved to DigiPol? I would not want DigiPol to become a rarely used black hole -- more an excuse to purge critical discussions vs a place for lively discussion that may help to shape actual policy at the ARRL and FCC. The freedom to refer people to DigiPol from digitalradio would be key to keeping DigiPol valuable. IMHO ... 73, doc kd4e Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the digitalradio group: Should debate about unattended digital stations (such as Pactor) , their usefulness, and their band allocations, be allowed on this reflector? o Yes, allow without restrictions o No, move such posts to the DigiPol group o I don't care either way o I don't know. To vote, please visit the following web page: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/surveys?id=2151961 Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups web site listed above. Thanks! Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [digitalradio] Bush signs 700 MHz transition package into law
A billion dollars? Wow! That will increase the high volume level of the discussions as to what is the best solution! ... doc In addition to allocating spectrum to public safety, the law creates a $1 billion grant program to pay for public-safety interoperable communications systems, $156 million for national alert and tsunami warning systems and $43.5 million to help fund E-911 upgrades as called for in the Enhance 911 Act passed in 2004. Most of the $10 billion in expected auction proceeds will be used to reduce budget deficits and to fund a program designed to provide people with analog TV sets low-cost converters that will let them receive digital broadcasts. Need a Digital mode QSO? Connect to Telnet://cluster.dynalias.org Other areas of interest: The MixW Reflector : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/themixwgroup/ DigiPol: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Digipol (band plan policy discussion) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digitalradio/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
