Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I have been reading but keeping my fingers off the keyboard waiting to see how this ends...happy for you kitus... but, is there really a problem with pickpockets? I haven't heard that referenced for decades. I thought that the thieves moved on to other occupations :) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > HAHAHAH! If you are ever near Barcelona, give me a shout and we can have > a beer instead!I loved Barcelona, apart from the pickpockets... Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > Good man, now, about the last loaf you bought ,, HAHAHAH! If you are ever near Barcelona, give me a shout and we can have a beer instead! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Sure, I intend to update my own GitHub Issue next weekend. Will echo it > here. Good man, now, about the last loaf you bought ,, Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > It would be _-*cooler_and_helpful*-_ if you give a detailed account of > what you did :) > > For example > > > does not explain how you did it :confused: > > Do you get my drift ? :):) > > ronnie Sure, I intend to update my own GitHub Issue next weekend. Will echo it here. kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Everyone, after the many hours I spent during the weekend on this, and > thanks to your continuous support, I'm glad to say that my system is > working smoothly. Right now my system: > > > > - usbconnectd is not working in the background, because I don't > think I need it - My DAC goes into standby just fine > > > > > Looking back at all this, my retrospective would be one really needs > to switch off piCorePlayer on LMS. I think this has been key to > improving my experience, and I know it may sound stupid, but this is > what I believe has changed my situation. Silly change. If this is > really what has solved my main issue, I will feel forever stupid! > > On the standby thing, I understand that only @ralphy would be in a > position to include additional DACs, as the "magic file" will need to > be tailored to the specific IDs of the DAC in particular and that file > is created by usb-power. I'm simply lucky that all Topping models seem > to be presented to Tiny Core the same way. > > As a bonus, since my automation platform of choice detected > piCorePlayer on day 1, I'm now even able to switch my amp power socket > on and off depending on piCorePlayer status. Isn't this cool?? I think > it is!! :) It would be _-*cooler_and_helpful*-_ if you give a detailed account of what you did :) For example > > Moved the extension into this folder does not explain how you did it :confused: Do you get my drift ? :):) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > Everyone, after the many hours I spent during the weekend on this, and > thanks to your continuous support, I'm glad to say that my system is > working smoothly. Right now my system: > > > > - usbconnectd is not working in the background, because I don't > think I need it - My DAC goes into standby just fine > > > > > Looking back at all this, my retrospective would be one really needs > to switch off piCorePlayer on LMS. I think this has been key to > improving my experience, and I know it may sound stupid, but this is > what I believe has changed my situation. Silly change. If this is > really what has solved my main issue, I will feel forever stupid! > > On the standby thing, I understand that only @ralphy would be in a > position to include additional DACs, as the "magic file" will need to > be tailored to the specific IDs of the DAC in particular and that file > is created by usb-power. I'm simply lucky that all Topping models seem > to be presented to Tiny Core the same way. > > As a bonus, since my automation platform of choice detected > piCorePlayer on day 1, I'm now even able to switch my amp power socket > on and off depending on piCorePlayer status. Isn't this cool?? I think > it is!! :)Very cool [emoji106] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote:
> Moved the extension into this folder
> >
Code:
> > /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
> >
>
> and it now seems to have been loaded during boot process
>
> >
Code:
> > tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional$ tce-status -i | grep usb
> libusb
> usb-power
>
> >
>
> and the magic file appears to be there
>
> >
Code:
> > tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional$ cat
/tmp/tcloop/usb-power/etc/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules
> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="152a",
ATTR{idProduct}=="8750", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="auto"
> >
>
> It looks like I'm getting closer!
Everyone, after the many hours I spent during the weekend on this, and
thanks to your continuous support, I'm glad to say that my system is
working smoothly. Right now my system:
- usbconnectd is not working in the background, because I don't think
I need it
- My DAC goes into standby just fine
Looking back at all this, my retrospective would be one really needs to
switch off piCorePlayer on LMS. I think this has been key to improving
my experience, and I know it may sound stupid, but this is what I
believe has changed my situation. Silly change. If this is really what
has solved my main issue, I will feel forever stupid!
On the standby thing, I understand that only @ralphy would be in a
position to include additional DACs, as the "magic file" will need to be
tailored to the specific IDs of the DAC in particular and that file is
created by usb-power. I'm simply lucky that all Topping models seem to
be presented to Tiny Core the same way.
As a bonus, since my automation platform of choice detected piCorePlayer
on day 1, I'm now even able to switch my amp power socket on and off
depending on piCorePlayer status. Isn't this cool?? I think it is!! :)
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kitus wrote:
> Moved the extension into this folder
> >
Code:
> > /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
> >
>
> and it now seems to have been loaded during boot process
>
> >
Code:
> > tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional$ tce-status -i | grep usb
> libusb
> usb-power
>
> >
>
> and the magic file appears to be there
>
> >
Code:
> > tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional$ cat
/tmp/tcloop/usb-power/etc/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules
> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="152a",
ATTR{idProduct}=="8750", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="auto"
> >
>
> It looks like I'm getting closer!
It's moved to /tmp on install because the file is unwritable, that's why
one gets the message
Code:
tc@pCP:~$ cat /lib/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules
cat: can't open '/lib/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules': No
such file or directory
ronnie
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kitus wrote:
>
> I had to leave home, but before I left, I think I saw the DAC going into
> standby!!! Will confirm later. If that is true, then I just need to
> ensure the extension is loaded during boot time!
>
Moved the extension into this folder
Code:
/etc/sysconfig/tcedir/optional
and it now seems to have been loaded during boot process
Code:
tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional$ tce-status -i | grep usb
libusb
usb-power
and the magic file appears to be there
Code:
tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/optional$ cat
/tmp/tcloop/usb-power/etc/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="usb", ATTR{idVendor}=="152a",
ATTR{idProduct}=="8750", TEST=="power/control", ATTR{power/control}="auto"
It looks like I'm getting closer!
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kitus wrote: > > > @ronnie, did you do anything to get usb-power to create that file other > than loading the extension manually and ensuring it is listed on the > onboot.lst? > > thanks! m, maybe usb-power is not being launched after all: Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ tce-status -i | more alsa alsa-modules-5.15.35-pcpCore-v7 alsa-utils bzip2-lib ca-certificates cdrom-5.15.35-pcpCore-v7 dialog exfat-utils expat2 file filesystems-5.15.35-pcpCore-v7 fuse fuse-exfat gamin gcc_libs glib2 gmp gnutls icu jansson libacl libasound libattr libcap libelf libidn2 liblzma libtasn1 libudev libunistring libusb nano ncurses ncurses-terminfo nettle ntfs-3g openssh openssl p11-kit pcp pcp-8.2.0-www pcp-base pcp-libalac pcp-libfaad2 pcp-libflac pcp-libmad pcp-libmpg123 pcp-libogg pcp-libopus pcp-libsoxr pcp-libvorbis pcp-squeezelite pcre perl5 perl_common_sense perl_crypt_openssl_bignum perl_crypt_openssl_random perl_crypt_openssl_rsa perl_io_socket_ssl perl_linux_inotify2 perl_mozilla_ca perl_net_ssleay raid-dm-5.15.35-pcpCore-v7 rng-tools samba4 samba4-lib slimserver slimserver-CPAN sysfsutils talloc uhubctl unbound I did load the extension as soon as I managed to get the extension from Ralph's repo, but it looks like it is not being loaded. I decided to give this a try Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ sudo tce-bootload usb-power.tcz tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ crossing my fingers! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
slartibartfast wrote: > If you don't unplug pCP or your DAC I don't understand why you need > usbconnectd. I thought it was only needed to restart Squeezelite when an > unplugged DAC was switched on again. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk @slartibartfast, now that I'm trying to remember to turn off picoreplayer every time I'm done listening to music, usbconnectd may not be necessary. In the past though, I would find myself very often: kitus wrote: > I would be very thankful if you provided some guidance to making my > system go into standby when pressing the on/off button on LMS. Making my > DAC go into standby is important, but > _it_is_way_way_more_important_to_solve_my_biggest_issue_: every so often > (starting a few hours or minutes since I have stopped playing music with > LMS + pCP) Squeezelite believes it is still capable of doing so (even I > can see LMS progress bar moving), but in reality no sound comes through > the speakers, unless I manually restart squeezelite every time I want to > listen to some music. Restarting pCP is not that convenient when you are > not in front of a computer, and it is a mood killer. I may have been to way off, but using usbconnectd was my desperate move in order to get my system to work without me needing to open a cli and force reboot squeezelite. I ended up connecting my DAC to the same smart powerstrip that I use for my amplifier. That way, I would power cycle my DAC when I was about to start listening to some music. usbconnectd would kill and start squeezelite as soon as the DAC come online. With this I accomplished being able to pull out my phone, open LMS and start playing some music right on my phone. But I may have also got all of this wrong from the start. kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > I remove the settings on the tweaks page but it still does work > > I found the missing file > > Code: > > > tc@pCP:/etc/udev/rules.d$ ls -l > total 68 > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root73 Jan 1 1970 01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules -> /tmp/tcloop/usb-power/etc/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 764 May 22 2022 42-qemu-usb.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 277 May 22 2022 50-firmware.rules > -rw-r--r--1 root root 3846 May 22 2022 50-udev-default.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 1000 100054 May 22 2022 52-usb.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 167 May 22 2022 55-tc.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 104 May 22 2022 56-lsusb.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 308 May 22 2022 60-cdrom_id.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 616 May 22 2022 60-persistent-alsa.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 2400 May 22 2022 60-persistent-input.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 947 May 22 2022 60-persistent-serial.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 2669 May 22 2022 60-persistent-storage.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 239 May 22 2022 75-cd-dvd.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 657 May 22 2022 80-drivers.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 1000 100097 May 22 2022 95-ads7846.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 155 May 22 2022 95-udev-late.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 294 May 22 2022 98-tc.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 1000 1000 1874 May 22 2022 99-com.rules > > > > > But, what to do? > > ronnie So it looks like indeed the usb-power is supposed to create that file. I had asked this earlier. In my case I don't see that file being created Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/var/log$ ls -l /tmp/tcloop/usb-power* ls: /tmp/tcloop/usb-power*: No such file or directory and usb-power.tcz is on the list of extensions to be started during boot time Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/var/log$ cat /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst pcp.tcz pcp-8.2.0-www.tcz slimserver.tcz ntfs-3g.tcz exfat-utils.tcz samba4.tcz uhubctl.tcz nano.tcz usb-power.tcz and Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:/var/log$ cat /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/onboot.lst pcp.tcz pcp-8.2.0-www.tcz slimserver.tcz ntfs-3g.tcz exfat-utils.tcz samba4.tcz uhubctl.tcz nano.tcz usb-power.tcz @ronnie, did you do anything to get usb-power to create that file other than loading the extension manually and ensuring it is listed on the onboot.lst? thanks! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > Well I just restored them and rebooted > > Pressing the green power button just pauses the playback. > > If I pull and replug the usb cable the dac starts the stanby process, I > have to re start squeezelite to stop it. > > I have to say, it all seems a bit unnecessary, just for shutting things > down; although I can understand your wanting to cure the original > problem :) > > Do you still hava de daca ? > > Lunchtime :) > > ronnieDo your uhubctl commands act on the correct usb port? Did you say it was a Pi4, that might need a different command? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > Those uhubctl commands simulate removing and replacing the USB cable. If > you don't use them then you need to unplug and replace the USB cable > every time the Pi is restarted. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Well I just restored them and rebooted Pressing the green power button just pauses the playback. If I pull and replug the usb cable the dac starts the stanby process, I have to re start squeezelite to stop it. I have to say, it all seems a bit unnecessary, just for shutting things down; although I can understand your wanting to cure the original problem :) Do you still hava de daca ? Lunchtime :) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > I have it working now :) > > Unplugging the usb lead to the dac did the trick (as per your comments > on the github thread) > > But that's not a good thing. > > I removed the uhubctl instructions from the Tweaks page and restarted > squeezelite; the dac started to go into standby when I pressed the green > power button on the LMS gui. > > I restored playback and then used the pCP shutdown command to close the > pi, the dac followed suit. > > I repowered the raspberry pi, the dac came on line and I started > playback > > Pressing the LMS power button now only paused playback. > > I interrupted the usb power supply to the dac (I did not pull the dac > power plug or pull the usb cable from the dac, I 'used one of these' > (https://www.aqvox.de/usb-power_en.html) in the dac usb connection > > I had to restart squeezelite to restore playback but the power switch > then put the dac into standby > > Not very good really. > > As you seemed to hint at in the github thread a cron job to stop / start > the usb-power after restart might solve the problem. > > Or use the remote control to select an used input on the dac :):) > > The raspberrypi OS works much better in this respect. > > > ronnieThose uhubctl commands simulate removing and replacing the USB cable. If you don't use them then you need to unplug and replace the USB cable every time the Pi is restarted. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphy wrote: > Using the -C option only releases/closes the audio device. It does not > shutdown the squeezelite instance. > > There was an 'issue #153' > (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/153) around starting > squeezelite with -C and the audio device was already in use and fixed in > 1.9.9r1392. > > I use this option daily and it's been working fine for me. Thanks for the explanation ralphy :):) Keep diggin ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > After you removed the commands in tweaks does it still work after > rebooting your pCP? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I have it working now :) Unplugging the usb lead to the dac did the trick (as per your comments on the github thread) But that's not a good thing. I removed the uhubctl instructions from the Tweaks page and restarted squeezelite; the dac started to go into standby when I pressed the green power button on the LMS gui. I restored playback and then used the pCP shutdown command to close the pi, the dac followed suit. I repowered the raspberry pi, the dac came on line and I started playback Pressing the LMS power button now only paused playback. I interrupted the usb power supply to the dac (I did not pull the dac power plug or pull the usb cable from the dac, I 'used one of these' (https://www.aqvox.de/usb-power_en.html) in the dac usb connection I had to restart squeezelite to restore playback but the power switch then put the dac into standby Not very good really. As you seemed to hint at in the github thread a cron job to stop / start the usb-power after restart might solve the problem. Or use the remote control to select an used input on the dac :):) The raspberrypi OS works much better in this respect. ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > -@RALPHY- > > -C > Close the output device after seconds of the player being > idle; the default is to always keep the device open as long as the payer > is "on". > > > Would you please explain about this setting, I think I have alway > misunderstood the function it performs. > > I thought that -C stopped squeezelite, but does it just cause it to drop > the output connection and remain running :confused: > > If I use the green power button on the LMS web gui to stop a radio > stream, wait for thirty secs or so (-C is set to 5) and then run > > > Code: > > sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service > > > > I get this > > > Code: > > pi@kitus:~ $ sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service > squeezelite.service - Squeezelite > Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) > Active: active (running) since Sat 2022-12-10 11:49:29 GMT; 11min ago > Main PID: 777 (squeezelite) > Tasks: 4 (limit: 1596) > CPU: 21.109s > CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service > 777 /usr/bin/squeezelite -n Squeezelite -s 127.0.0.1 -o front:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -a 80 4 0 -C 5 > > Dec 10 11:49:29 kitus systemd[1]: Started Squeezelite. > pi@kitus:~ $ > > > > > Is this the correct state to be reported ? > > Or does running the command restart a paused service ? I did not note > any of the times, :rolleyes::o sorry. > > If Stop the playback by running > > Code: > > > sudo systemctl stop squeezelite.service > > > > and then run the Status query, it is shown as stopped. > > thanks > > ronnie > > How's the snow ? Using the -C option only releases/closes the audio device. It does not shutdown the squeezelite instance. There was an 'issue #153' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/153) around starting squeezelite with -C and the audio device was already in use and fixed in 1.9.9r1392. I use this option daily and it's been working fine for me. Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *2*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > I would typically not switch off the picoreplayer on LMS. I never > thought it was necessary, but now that I come to think about it, having > a player that all of the sudden "sees" that the next device downstream > (the DAC) either goes offline, is in standby, or whatever, could be part > of the problem. I will now try to remember this from today and on. > > What usbconnectd does is, it monitors inputs and choses the best one, > based on what it sees. Once that input has been chosen, it will kill > squeezelite and ensure it starts anew. And this has proven to be > bridging the gap that I see in my setup... well, at least at this point > where I have not yet managed to implement usb-power, udev rule, etc., If you don't unplug pCP or your DAC I don't understand why you need usbconnectd. I thought it was only needed to restart Squeezelite when an unplugged DAC was switched on again. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Man in a van wrote: > I remove the settings on the tweaks page but it still does work > > I found the missing file > > Code: > > > tc@pCP:/etc/udev/rules.d$ ls -l > total 68 > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root73 Jan 1 1970 01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules -> /tmp/tcloop/usb-power/etc/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 764 May 22 2022 42-qemu-usb.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 277 May 22 2022 50-firmware.rules > -rw-r--r--1 root root 3846 May 22 2022 50-udev-default.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 1000 100054 May 22 2022 52-usb.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 167 May 22 2022 55-tc.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 104 May 22 2022 56-lsusb.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 308 May 22 2022 60-cdrom_id.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 616 May 22 2022 60-persistent-alsa.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 2400 May 22 2022 60-persistent-input.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 947 May 22 2022 60-persistent-serial.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 2669 May 22 2022 60-persistent-storage.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 239 May 22 2022 75-cd-dvd.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 657 May 22 2022 80-drivers.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 1000 100097 May 22 2022 95-ads7846.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 155 May 22 2022 95-udev-late.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 root root 294 May 22 2022 98-tc.rules > -rw-rw-r--1 1000 1000 1874 May 22 2022 99-com.rules > > > > > But, what to do? > > ronnieAfter you removed the commands in tweaks does it still work after rebooting your pCP? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Man in a van wrote: > I tried the pCP route this morning, > > > Code: > > > ceo > > wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz > > wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt > > md5sum -c usb-power.tcz.md5.txt > > tce-load -i usb-power > > echo usb-power.tcz >> ../onboot.lst > > pcp br > > > > > looks like the usb-power does not work > > > Code: > > login as: tc > tc@pcp.local's password: > _ _ ___ __ > ___ (_) ___/__ ___ / _ \/ /__ ___ _ > / _ \/ / /__/ _ \/ __/ -_) ___/ / _ `/ // / -_) __/ > / .__/_/\___/\___/_/ \__/_/ /_/\_,_/\_, /\__/_/ > /_/ /___/ > > piCorePlayer = piCore + Squeezelite + Raspberry Pi > > The software is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, > either express or implied, including without limitation any implied > warranties of condition, uninterrupted use, merchantability, > fitness for a particular purpose, or non-infringement. > tc@pCP:~$ cat /lib/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules > cat: can't open '/lib/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules': No such file or directory > tc@pCP:~$ > > > > > > > and, with a little local navigation > > > Code: > > tc@pCP:/lib/udev/rules.d$ ls -l > total 0 > lrwxrwxrwx1 root root61 Jan 1 1970 90-alsa-restore.rules -> /tmp/tcloop/alsa-utils/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules > tc@pCP:/lib/udev/rules.d$ > > > > > sudo nano /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst gives > > > Code: > > pcp.tcz > pcp-8.2.0-www.tcz > slimserver.tcz > nano.tcz > pcp-lame.tcz > pigz.tcz > uhubctl.tcz > usb-power.tcz > > > > > lsusb gives > > > Code: > > tc@pCP:~$ lsusb > Bus 001 Device 004: ID 152a:8750 > Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 > Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:2514 > Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:2514 > Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0424:7800 > Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0951:1666 > > > > so I used slarti's settings on the Tweaks page > > [emoji14] > > ronnieSo does your DAC have the same product ID as the E30? That makes things easier. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I remove the settings on the tweaks page but it still does work I found the missing file Code: tc@pCP:/etc/udev/rules.d$ ls -l total 68 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root73 Jan 1 1970 01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules -> /tmp/tcloop/usb-power/etc/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 764 May 22 2022 42-qemu-usb.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 277 May 22 2022 50-firmware.rules -rw-r--r--1 root root 3846 May 22 2022 50-udev-default.rules -rw-rw-r--1 1000 100054 May 22 2022 52-usb.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 167 May 22 2022 55-tc.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 104 May 22 2022 56-lsusb.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 308 May 22 2022 60-cdrom_id.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 616 May 22 2022 60-persistent-alsa.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 2400 May 22 2022 60-persistent-input.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 947 May 22 2022 60-persistent-serial.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 2669 May 22 2022 60-persistent-storage.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 239 May 22 2022 75-cd-dvd.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 657 May 22 2022 80-drivers.rules -rw-rw-r--1 1000 100097 May 22 2022 95-ads7846.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 155 May 22 2022 95-udev-late.rules -rw-rw-r--1 root root 294 May 22 2022 98-tc.rules -rw-rw-r--1 1000 1000 1874 May 22 2022 99-com.rules But, what to do? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I tried the pCP route this morning, Code: ceo wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt md5sum -c usb-power.tcz.md5.txt tce-load -i usb-power echo usb-power.tcz >> ../onboot.lst pcp br looks like the usb-power does not work Code: login as: tc tc@pcp.local's password: _ _ ___ __ ___ (_) ___/__ ___ / _ \/ /__ ___ _ / _ \/ / /__/ _ \/ __/ -_) ___/ / _ `/ // / -_) __/ / .__/_/\___/\___/_/ \__/_/ /_/\_,_/\_, /\__/_/ /_/ /___/ piCorePlayer = piCore + Squeezelite + Raspberry Pi The software is provided "as is" without warranty of any kind, either express or implied, including without limitation any implied warranties of condition, uninterrupted use, merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, or non-infringement. tc@pCP:~$ cat /lib/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules cat: can't open '/lib/udev/rules.d/01-topping-e30-dac-usb-power.rules': No such file or directory tc@pCP:~$ and, with a little local navigation Code: tc@pCP:/lib/udev/rules.d$ ls -l total 0 lrwxrwxrwx1 root root61 Jan 1 1970 90-alsa-restore.rules -> /tmp/tcloop/alsa-utils/lib/udev/rules.d/90-alsa-restore.rules tc@pCP:/lib/udev/rules.d$ sudo nano /etc/sysconfig/tcedir/onboot.lst gives Code: pcp.tcz pcp-8.2.0-www.tcz slimserver.tcz nano.tcz pcp-lame.tcz pigz.tcz uhubctl.tcz usb-power.tcz lsusb gives Code: tc@pCP:~$ lsusb Bus 001 Device 004: ID 152a:8750 Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0424:2514 Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0424:2514 Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0424:7800 Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0951:1666 so I used slarti's settings on the Tweaks page :p ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
slartibartfast wrote: > Do you have the issue if you don't turn off the DAC or install > usbconnectd? What does usbconnectd do? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I would typically not switch off the picoreplayer on LMS. I never thought it was necessary, but now that I come to think about it, having a player that all of the sudden "sees" that the next device downstream (the DAC) either goes offline, is in standby, or whatever, could be part of the problem. I will now try to remember this from today and on. What usbconnectd does is, it monitors inputs and choses the best one, based on what it sees. Once that input has been chosen, it will kill squeezelite and ensure it starts anew. And this has proven to be bridging the gap that I see in my setup... well, at least at this point where I have not yet managed to implement usb-power, udev rule, etc., kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Man in a van wrote: > -@RALPHY- > > -C > Close the output device after seconds of the player being > idle; the default is to always keep the device open as long as the payer > is "on". > > > Would you please explain about this setting, I think I have alway > misunderstood the function it performs. > > I thought that -C stopped squeezelite, but does it just cause it to drop > the output connection and remain running :confused: > > If I use the green power button on the LMS web gui to stop a radio > stream, wait for thirty secs or so (-C is set to 5) and then run > > > Code: > > sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service > > > > I get this > > > Code: > > pi@kitus:~ $ sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service > squeezelite.service - Squeezelite > Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) > Active: active (running) since Sat 2022-12-10 11:49:29 GMT; 11min ago > Main PID: 777 (squeezelite) > Tasks: 4 (limit: 1596) > CPU: 21.109s > CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service > 777 /usr/bin/squeezelite -n Squeezelite -s 127.0.0.1 -o front:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -a 80 4 0 -C 5 > > Dec 10 11:49:29 kitus systemd[1]: Started Squeezelite. > pi@kitus:~ $ > > > > > Is this the correct state to be reported ? > > Or does running the command restart a paused service ? I did not note > any of the times, :rolleyes::o sorry. > > If Stop the playback by running > > Code: > > > sudo systemctl stop squeezelite.service > > > > and then run the Status query, it is shown as stopped. > > thanks > > ronnie > > How's the snow ? Good question. My understanding was a bit different: I understood that squeeze little would detach itself from the audio bridge/channel, after the number of seconds configured right after "-C" kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > Im not at home but will review this later today. Thanks for the > detailed write-up, and for naming your pi after me!! :) Hi there @ronnie, this is what I see Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ sudo /usr/local/etc/init.d/squeezelite status Squeezelite is running. PID=8552 tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ ps afx | grep squeeze 8552 root 0:14 /usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n piCorePlayer -o hw:CARD=D90SE,DEV=0 -a 80 4 0 -r 44100 48000 88200 96000 176400 192000 352800 384000 705600 768000 -C 5 8750 tc0:00 grep squeeze kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
-@RALPHY- -C Close the output device after seconds of the player being idle; the default is to always keep the device open as long as the payer is "on". Would you please explain about this setting, I think I have alway misunderstood the function it performs. I thought that -C stopped squeezelite, but does it just cause it to drop the output connection and remain running :confused: If I use the green power button on the LMS web gui to stop a radio stream, wait for thirty secs or so (-C is set to 5) and then run Code: sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service I get this Code: pi@kitus:~ $ sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service squeezelite.service - Squeezelite Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2022-12-10 11:49:29 GMT; 11min ago Main PID: 777 (squeezelite) Tasks: 4 (limit: 1596) CPU: 21.109s CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service 777 /usr/bin/squeezelite -n Squeezelite -s 127.0.0.1 -o front:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -a 80 4 0 -C 5 Dec 10 11:49:29 kitus systemd[1]: Started Squeezelite. pi@kitus:~ $ Is this the correct state to be reported ? Or does running the command restart a paused service ? I did not note any of the times, :rolleyes::o sorry. If Stop the playback by running Code: sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service and then run the Status query, it is shown as stopped. thanks ronnie How's the snow ? Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
ralphy wrote: > To have the usb-power extension load at boot you need to add > usb-power.tcz to the end of /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/onboot.lst Yep, that is already something I configured yesterday. I saw that in the GitHub issue shared earlier by @slartibartfast. Once it is loaded during startup, will it then create the udev rule during the boot-up process? How do I confirm it is the case? What will the filename be if so? Help me understand this: - say that usb-power is loaded during startup, and Im assuming it creates the rule on the fly during start-up. - what else do I need to do? Will then the power button be in a position to put the DAC to sleep? - Ive seen that slartibartfast mentioned that the two user commands he states in the GitHub issue are still needed. Not sure what would lead me to confirm that I need to include those, but adding these commands feels like the topping on the cake. Is there anything else Im missing? I myself created one issue in GitHub framing my particular case a couple of weeks ago. If I ever manage to solve my issue, I swear I will document the changes in that Guthub site kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Man in a van wrote: > @ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off > is what I posted in my last message: > > > > Squeezelite is either off or on > > If it has the -z flag it is always on (in the background) > > If it has the -C flag then it will drop the connection after the > specified time. > > When I have this setting in raspberry PI OS and I run the squeezelite > status it still shows as running > > This is taken at 10 56am. with Squeezelite paused and the dac in > standby. > > > > Code: > > pi@kitus:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite status > squeezelite.service - Squeezelite LMS player > Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) > Active: active (running) since Sat 2022-12-10 09:05:49 GMT; 1h 50min ago > Process: 462 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/squeezelite start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) > Main PID: 518 (squeezelite-arm) > Tasks: 4 (limit: 1596) > CPU: 4min 16.360s > CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service > 518 /usr/bin/squeezelite-armv6hf -o hw:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -n kitus -m b8 27 eb a6 97 1b -C 5 -P /var/run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid -z > > Dec 10 09:05:48 kitus systemd[1]: Starting Squeezelite LMS player... > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus sudo[470]: root : PWD=/ ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/squeezelite-armv6hf -t > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus sudo[470]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by (uid=0) > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus sudo[470]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus squeezelite[462]: Starting: /usr/bin/squeezelite-armv6hf -o hw:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -n kitus -m b8:27:eb:a6:97:1b -C 5 -P /var/run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid -z > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus squeezelite[462]: with pidfile: /var/run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus systemd[1]: squeezelite.service: Can't open PID file /run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid (yet?) after start: Operation not permitted > Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus systemd[1]: Started Squeezelite LMS player. > pi@kitus:~ $ > > > > It's the new build from this morning, using Gerrelt's scripts and > squeezelite is daemonised, but even without -z I'm certain I have > seen it show as running > > I think the -C option no longer seems to work, as I can run librespot > and squeezelite through the same output without -C being set, and I > sure that was not always the case > > ronnie Im not at home but will review this later today. Thanks for the detailed write-up, and for naming your pi after me!! :) kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
@ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off is what I posted in my last message: > > I would be very thankful if you provided some guidance to making my > system go into standby when pressing the on/off button on LMS. Making my > DAC go into standby is important, but > _it_is_way_way_more_important_to_solve_my_biggest_issue_: every so > often (starting a few hours or minutes since I have stopped playing > music with LMS + pCP) Squeezelite believes it is still capable of doing > so (even I can see LMS progress bar moving), but in reality no sound > comes through the speakers, unless I manually restart squeezelite every > time I want to listen to some music. Restarting pCP is not that > convenient when you are not in front of a computer, and it is a mood > killer. Squeezelite is either off or on If it has the -z flag it is always on (in the background) If it has the -C flag then it will drop the connection after the specified time. When I have this setting in raspberry PI OS and I run the squeezelite status it still shows as running This is taken at 10 56am. with Squeezelite paused and the dac in standby. Code: pi@kitus:~ $ sudo /etc/init.d/squeezelite status squeezelite.service - Squeezelite LMS player Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Sat 2022-12-10 09:05:49 GMT; 1h 50min ago Process: 462 ExecStart=/etc/init.d/squeezelite start (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS) Main PID: 518 (squeezelite-arm) Tasks: 4 (limit: 1596) CPU: 4min 16.360s CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service 518 /usr/bin/squeezelite-armv6hf -o hw:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -n kitus -m b8 27 eb a6 97 1b -C 5 -P /var/run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid -z Dec 10 09:05:48 kitus systemd[1]: Starting Squeezelite LMS player... Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus sudo[470]: root : PWD=/ ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/usr/bin/squeezelite-armv6hf -t Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus sudo[470]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session opened for user root(uid=0) by (uid=0) Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus sudo[470]: pam_unix(sudo:session): session closed for user root Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus squeezelite[462]: Starting: /usr/bin/squeezelite-armv6hf -o hw:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -n kitus -m b8:27:eb:a6:97:1b -C 5 -P /var/run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid -z Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus squeezelite[462]: with pidfile: /var/run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus systemd[1]: squeezelite.service: Can't open PID file /run/squeezelite-armv6hf.pid (yet?) after start: Operation not permitted Dec 10 09:05:49 kitus systemd[1]: Started Squeezelite LMS player. pi@kitus:~ $ It's the new build from this morning, using Gerrelt's scripts and squeezelite is daemonised, but even without -z I'm certain I have seen it show as running I think the -C option no longer seems to work, as I can run librespot and squeezelite through the same output without -C being set, and I sure that was not always the case ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > > If I understood 'this post' > (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114) correctly, by > having usb-power extension loaded upon start, a udev rule should have to > have been created during system start, right? That is at least what I > understood from this statement > To have the usb-power extension load at boot you need to add usb-power.tcz to the end of /mnt/mmcblk0p2/tce/onboot.lst Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *2*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
My LMS runs on a rpi4b which is left on 24/7 I have several dacs to choose from, but each one has a raspberry pi as a Squeezelite player. So, with a Topping dac; When I stop listening to music, I pause the player and send a remote signal via a smartphone app to "sudo shutdown -h now" (that's two taps on the 'phone). The player stops (but is still powered) the dac stops and goes into standby. My active Mackies go into standby All are connected to the same power strip, which I then power off at the wall. I normally use a Raspberry PI OS but sometimes run cCP if I am trying something for someone else. The procedure is the same, but if the player is pCP squeezelite I just leave it powered until the last step. ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > hehe, agreed. I only power it off because thats the only way I think > usbconnectd will notice it is back alive, and then will take action and > kill squeezelite for meDo you have the issue if you if don't turn off the DAC > or install usbconnectd? What does usbconnectd do? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > I don't ever power off my DAC. 1.8W is the least of my worries when it > comes to wasted energy [emoji3] > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk hehe, agreed. I only power it off because thats the only way I think usbconnectd will notice it is back alive, and then will take action and kill squeezelite for me kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Mmm, not sure what that switch is. Ive tried switching off the player > on the LMS interface, but as there are multiple combinations (DAC in > standby, DAC powered off, switch on, switch off, etc.), not sure Ive > tested all possible escenarios. > > What do you typically do when you are done listening to music? Do you > switch off the player on LMS interface, then you power off your DAC? > > Well, in your case your setup is more refined because you have managed > to put your DAC in standby by clicking on the player power button. I > wonder what others do but I will certainly pay more attention to the > outcome that I get when I switch off the player on LMS, when Im done > listening to music!I don't ever power off my DAC. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
slartibartfast wrote: > I have never seen that behaviour. Do you turn off your pCP at the mains > switch? > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Mmm, not sure what that switch is. Ive tried switching off the player on the LMS interface. Do you refer to that one? If so, as there are multiple combinations (DAC in standby, DAC powered off, switch on, switch off, etc.), Im not sure Ive tested all possible escenarios. What do you typically do when you are done listening to music? Do you switch off the player on LMS interface, then you power off your DAC? Well, in your case your setup is more refined because you have managed to put your DAC in standby by clicking on the player power button. I wonder what others do but I will certainly pay more attention to the outcome that I get when I switch off the player on LMS, when Im done listening to music! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > HAHAHAH I will try to remember that! > > @ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off > is what I posted in my last message: > > > I really have not figure out what pattern triggers that behaviour; in > other words, I'm not sure if it the triggering condition is, any idle > time beyond 17min and 52sec (or you name it) will get my setup into this > deadlock or what. What I can say is that this behaviour is consistent > across the previous Topping that I tested (E50) or my current D90, or > even with the built-in DAC inside my Cambridge Amplifier. And I'm very > surprised this is not something other people experience, but it is very > annoying. > > Yesterday I gave a new try to 'usbconnectd' > (https://github.com/uudruid74/picoreplayer-usbconnectd/blob/main/usbconnectd). > My coding skills are terrible, but I came to understand that I could > change the behaviour of this script so that it is a bit more aggressive. > I have connected the DAC now into the same smart powerstrip that > provides power to my amplifier, which means that the DAC is mostly > powered off and I only power it on when I'm about to listen to music. If > I get usbconnectd to consistently kill squeezelite when my RPI "sees" my > DAC, I will have managed to solve the most annoying thing that I have > now on my list. > > But again, I'm surprised this only happens to me. I can't think about > other potential combinations that can be the culprit in my case, as I > have seen people in here using RPI 3B+, so I'm ruling out this > particular flavour of RPI being responsible for this. > > I hope somebody hears my desperate cry for help!I have never seen that > behaviour. Do you turn off your pCP at the mains switch? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Man in a van wrote: > I woke up really early today and could not get back to sleep :confused: > > Popped the heating on and got up about 3.30 am > > A Paddington toast and marmalade with an instant nescafe and I was > looking for something to do :( > > Several hours later; > > I have a working Raspberry PI OS Bullseye 32bit Lite OS, running LMS > v8.3.1, Squeezelite, Raspotify into my Topping DX3 Pro. > > I used 'Gerrelt's scripts' > (http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wordpress/tutorial-installing-squeezelite-player-on-raspbian/) > to run Squeezelite (which I may change to a plain system.service) > > Thanks to -*slarti*-, -*ralphy*- and -*clivem*- I popped an addition > into the OS udev folder (sudo nano etc/udev/rules.d/99-com.rules) > > 'https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114 > ' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114) > and rebooted. > > I can now press pause, or the green power button, and the dac goes into > standby :) > > For myself, I would just select an unused dac input using the remote :p > > -*@kitus*-, next time you are out for a bottle of milk, please rember a > loaf!!:) > > ronnie HAHAHAH I will try to remember that! @ronnie, my biggest issue is not DAC standby. What really pisses me off is what I posted in my last message: Code: a few hours or minutes since I have stopped playing music with LMS + pCP) Squeezelite believes it is actually doing so, but in reality no sound comes through the speakers, unless I manually restart squeezelite every time I want to listen to some music. Restarting pCP is not that convenient when you are not in front of a computer, and it is a mood killer. I really have not figure out what pattern triggers that behaviour; in other words, I'm not sure if it the triggering condition is, any idle time beyond 17min and 52sec (or you name it) will get my setup into this deadlock or what. What I can say is that this behaviour is consistent across the previous Topping that I tested (E50) or my current D90, or even with the built-in DAC inside my Cambridge Amplifier. And I'm very surprised this is not something other people experience, but it is very annoying. Yesterday I gave a new try to 'usbconnectd' (https://github.com/uudruid74/picoreplayer-usbconnectd/blob/main/usbconnectd). My coding skills are terrible, but I came to understand that I could change the behaviour of this script so that it is a bit more aggressive. I have connected the DAC now into the same smart powerstrip that provides power to my amplifier, which means that the DAC is mostly powered off and I only power it on when I'm about to listen to music. If I get usbconnectd to consistently kill squeezelite when my RPI "sees" my DAC, I will have managed to solve the most annoying thing that I have now on my list. But again, I'm surprised this only happens to me. I can't think about other potential combinations that can be the culprit in my case, as I have seen people in here using RPI 3B+, so I'm ruling out this particular flavour of RPI being responsible for this. I hope somebody hears my desperate cry for help! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Man in a van wrote: > I woke up really early today and could not get back to sleep :confused: > > Popped the heating on and got up about 3.30 am > > A Paddington toast and marmalade with an instant nescafe and I was > looking for something to do :( > > Several hours later; > > I have a working Raspberry PI OS Bullseye 32bit Lite OS, running LMS > v8.3.1, Squeezelite, Raspotify into my Topping DX3 Pro. > > I used 'Gerrelt's scripts' > (http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wordpress/tutorial-installing-squeezelite-player-on-raspbian/) > to run Squeezelite (which I may change to a plain system.service) > > Thanks to -*slarti*-, -*ralphy*- and -*clivem*- I popped an addition > into the OS udev folder (sudo nano etc/udev/rules.d/99-com.rules) > > 'https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114 > ' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114) > and rebooted. > > I can now press pause, or the green power button, and the dac goes into > standby :) > > For myself, I would just select an unused dac input using the remote > [emoji14] > > -*@kitus*-, next time you are out for a bottle of milk, please rember a > loaf!!:) > > ronnieExcellent [emoji106]. Now you can try the same with pCP [emoji1787] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I woke up really early today and could not get back to sleep :confused: Popped the heating on and got up about 3.30 am A Paddington toast and marmalade with an instant nescafe and I was looking for something to do :( Several hours later; I have a working Raspberry PI OS Bullseye 32bit Lite OS, running LMS v8.3.1, Squeezelite, Raspotify into my Topping DX3 Pro. I used 'Gerrelt's scripts' (http://www.gerrelt.nl/RaspberryPi/wordpress/tutorial-installing-squeezelite-player-on-raspbian/) to run Squeezelite (which I may change to a plain system.service) Thanks to -*slarti*-, -*ralphy*- and -*clivem*- I popped an addition into the OS udev folder (sudo nano etc/udev/rules.d/99-com.rules) 'https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114 ' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114) and rebooted. I can now press pause, or the green power button, and the dac goes into standby :) For myself I would just select an unused dac input using the remote :p -*@kitus*-, next time you are out for a bottle of milk, please rember a loaf!!:) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
ralphy wrote: > It appears the sourceforge have removed all my files from the website > again. I'll open another ticket to try and get this sorted. > > In the meantime you can grab it from here. > > > Code: > > wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz > > wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt > > > Hi Ralph, could you give me a had to ensure I manage to get my setup work the way it is described 'here' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114)? If I understood 'this post' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/114) correctly, by having usb-power extension loaded upon start, a udev rule should have to have been created during system start, right? That is at least what I understood from this statement Code: Your picoreplayer will backup the current configuation and reboot. After the reboot you should have the new udev rule. I would be very thankful if you provided some guidance to making my system go into standby when pressing the on/off button on LMS. Making my DAC go into standby is important, but _it_is_way_way_more_important_to_solve_my_biggest_issue_: every so often (starting a few hours or minutes of not using LMS + pCP) Squeezelite is not able to produce any sound through the speakers, unless I manually restart squeezelite every time I want to listen to some music. Rebooting pCP is not that convenient when you are not in front of a computer, and it is a mood killer. I remember that at some point @Man in a van suggested the standby issues that I experience may, or may not be connected with what is really making my system behave that way, but the reality is that this is the one single missing to have a great system in place. I'm surprised it is only me who is reporting this kind of problems, but it really is a bummer. What is more interesting is that this issue happens with a Topping E50 or a Topping D90, but also with the built-in DAC in my integrated amplifier! I've seen people here in this forum who are very happy with their Raspberry Pi 3B+ so that can't be the problem either. This is desperate cry for help!!! :( kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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ralphy wrote: > It appears the sourceforge have removed all my files from the website > again. I'll open another ticket to try and get this sorted. > > In the meantime you can grab it from here. > > > Code: > > wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz > > wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt > > > THANK YOU Ralph!! Code: tc@piCorePlayerLMS:~$ tce-load -i usb-power.tcz usb-power.tcz: OK kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Greg Erskine wrote: > Using an extension makes it easy for a DAC E30 user but more difficult > if you want to do edits.I think I added an extra line to my udev rule to add > an autosuspend time. Admittedly I can't remember how I did this but probably via SSH and a test editor. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > I agree that thread is confusing. > > 1. Install the usb-power extension and uhubctl if necessary. > 2. Edit the udev rule to contain the correct Id for your DAC > 3. Add the two uhubctl commands in pCP user commands. > > Reboot. I think that should do it. > > If you have a spare SD card use that. Using an extension makes it easy for a DAC E30 user but more difficult if you want to do edits. Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Where do you find that option please? [Main Page] > "Main piCorePlayer functions" > [Full Update] Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > I confirm I can't find usb-power.tcz in the extensions section and > attempting to download it from wget > http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/pico/usb-power.tcz is not > working either :( It appears the sourceforge have removed all my files from the website again. I'll open another ticket to try and get this sorted. In the meantime you can grab it from here. Code: wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz wget http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/picoreplayer/beta/usb-power.tcz.md5.txt Ralphy *1*-Touch, *5*-Classics, *3*-Booms, *2*-UE Radio 'Squeezebox client builds' (https://sourceforge.net/projects/lmsclients/files/) 'donations' (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_donations=LL5P6365KQEXN=CA_name=Squeezebox%20client%20builds_code=USD=PP%2dDonationsBF%3abtn_donate_SM%2egif%3aNonHosted) always appreciated. ralphy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3484 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > I'm at a loss. Downgrading pCP is not an issue for me. I could do that > and check if I get that extension. Then I can upgrade the system and > keep my fingers crossed. But my issue now is that after reading the > GitHub thread a couple of times, I really don't get the full picture of > what needs to be done. I think I will give this a new try during the > weekend.I agree that thread is confusing. 1. Install the usb-power extension and uhubctl if necessary. 2. Edit the udev rule to contain the correct Id for your DAC 3. Add the two uhubctl commands in pCP user commands. Reboot. I think that should do it. If you have a spare SD card use that. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I'm at a loss. Downgrading pCP is not an issue for me. I could do that and check if I get that extension. Then I can upgrade the system and keep my fingers crossed. But my issue now is that after reading the GitHub thread a couple of times, I really don't get the full picture of what needs to be done. I think I will give this a new try during the weekend. kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Do you have Squeezelite and LMS deployed on a vanilla Raspian OS?I have both > Raspbian and pCP on different SD cards. I wonder if you could install an older pCP which does have usb-power in the repo, install it then update to the latest pCP. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > With Raspbian I can just copy the udev rule into the correct folder but > that isn't possible on pCP unfortunately. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Do you have Squeezelite and LMS deployed on a vanilla Raspian OS? kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > I confirm I can't find usb-power.tcz in the extensions section and > attempting to download it from wget > http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/pico/usb-power.tcz is not > working either :(With Raspbian I can just copy the udev rule into the correct > folder but that isn't possible on pCP unfortunately. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > The gotcha for me with that udev rule was that the rule didn't work > after a restart unless the usb was removed and reinserted. That is why I > needed to add the two uhubctl commands to user commands at start up. A > lot of the thread on GitHub is taken up with me spending a lot of time > thinking the udev rule wasn't working until I finally realised what was > going on. On Raspbian the udev rule works without any messing around at > start up so I thought pCP would behave in the same way. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I confirm I can't find usb-power.tcz in the extensions section and attempting to download it from wget http://ralph-irving.users.sourceforge.net/pico/usb-power.tcz is not working either :( kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Greg Erskine wrote: > I don't think so? > > If someone finds it let me know. The original source has stopped being > available. > > I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but I have not found any of these > udev solutions to work 100%, there was always a gotcha. > > @others playing with udev > > Various solutions have work arounds for the numerous gotchas. > > A tip, do a [Full Update] squeezelite to "Squeezelite v1.9.9-1414-pCP". > You should get a more robust init.d squeezelite script. I recommend > using the force option. The gotcha for me with that udev rule was that the rule didn't work after a restart unless the usb was removed and reinserted. That is why I needed to add the two uhubctl commands to user commands at start up. A lot of the thread on GitHub is taken up with me spending a lot of time thinking the udev rule wasn't working until I finally realised what was going on. On Raspbian the udev rule works without any messing around at start up so I thought pCP would behave in the same way. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > usb-power is not available as an extension that one can install. I > assume it is now part of the core OS. > The udev rule simply monitors the USB port to detect that a certain usb > device (the DAC) becomes available, right? I see in the GitHub issue > that one of the developers included that ad-hoc for you because that > part of the file system is read only? > > then the next step will be to restart squeezelite using a script? is my > understanding correct? > > That is a long thread man! :)The udev rule detects the DAC and lets the power > state of the pCP player control the power to the USB port. If it isn't in the repository it might have been overlooked when pCP was updated to the latest version. That thread is only 69 posts [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Greg Erskine wrote: > I don't think so? > > A tip, do a [Full Update] squeezelite to "Squeezelite v1.9.9-1414-pCP". > You should get a more robust init.d squeezelite script. I recommend > using the force option. Where do you find that option please? kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > usb-power is not available as an extension that one can install. I > assume it is now part of the core OS. I don't think so? If someone finds it let me know. The original source has stopped being available. I'm not the sharpest tool in the box, but I have not found any of these udev solutions to work 100%, there was always a gotcha. @others playing with udev Various solutions have work arounds for the numerous gotchas. A tip, do a [Full Update] squeezelite to "Squeezelite v1.9.9-1414-pCP". You should get a more robust init.d squeezelite script. I recommend using the force option. Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > Those commands only toggle the usb port off and on at start up to make > sure the udev rule takes effect. So you still need the udev rule but I > have a feeling > usb-power.tcz > might have been added to the pCP repository so check there first. You > will need to edit the udev rule to change the idProduct to that of your > DAC (obtained from lsusb) assuming idVendor remains the same. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk usb-power is not available as an extension that one can install. I assume it is now part of the core OS. The udev rule simply monitors the USB port to detect that a certain usb device (the DAC) becomes available, right? I see in the GitHub issue that one of the developers included that ad-hoc for you because that part of the file system is read only? then the next step will be to restart squeezelite using a script? is my understanding correct? That is a long thread man! :) kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Thanks! I had already done so. I have tested these commands from the CLI > and they work just fine. I'm able to power on and off the corresponding > USB port, and after a while the DAC either goes into standby or gets out > of it. > > Now, after adding these commands on pCP UI, I'm still trying to digest > the rest of the long GitHub post, and whether or not the rest of the all > the tweaks are needed in my case or note. That is a heck of a long > thread... > > Help me understand this: the whole thread deals with the audible noise > and you tried to reproduce the noise by turning on and off the port. So > far so good. But why do you need the udev rule for? I still haven't > figured that out... Those commands only toggle the usb port off and on at start up to make sure the udev rule takes effect. So you still need the udev rule but I have a feeling usb-power.tcz might have been added to the pCP repository so check there first. You will need to edit the udev rule to change the idProduct to that of your DAC (obtained from lsusb) assuming idVendor remains the same. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > The two commands go in the user commands like you thought but install > uhubctl first. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk Thanks! I had already done so. I have tested these commands from the CLI and they work just fine. I'm able to power on and off the corresponding USB port, and after a while the DAC either goes into standby or gets out of it. Now, after adding these commands on pCP UI, I'm still trying to digest the rest of the long GitHub post, and whether or not the rest of the all the tweaks are needed in my case or note. That is a heck of a long thread... Help me understand this: the whole thread deals with the audible noise and you tried to reproduce the noise by turning on and off the port. So far so good. But why do you need the udev rule for? I still haven't figured that out... kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > understood. I'm trying to figure out the physical port using different > linux commands, and so far I did not succeed. > > May I ask you where is it that one needs to type those commands? is it > in the "User Commands" section of pCP? > > thanksThe two commands go in the user commands like you thought but install uhubctl first. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > understood. I'm trying to figure out the physical port using different > linux commands, and so far I did not succeed. > > May I ask you where is it that one needs to type those commands? is it > in the "User Commands" section of pCP? > > thanksI have forgotten how I did this now. I think uhubctl tells you what is on your ports. I think you need to install it from the pCP repository. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > I think lsusb from a command prompt tells you which ports devices are > on. My commands work on a Pi3B, other Pis could be different. Strangely > I didn't need those commands on Raspbian, only for pCP > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk understood. I'm trying to figure out the physical port using different linux commands, and so far I did not succeed. May I ask you where is it that one needs to type those commands? is it in the "User Commands" section of pCP? thanks kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > All right, I see I have accidentally triggered some activity here :) > > I'm going to try and answer the few questions I seem to have picked up. > > 1. What do I do when I go out go fetch a bottle of milk? > > I go to LMS and stop the active Tidal stream. > > 2. What I would expect would happen? > > I would expect pCP would simply let go of the transmission channel. My > DAC would notice activity ceases and it would silently go into standby. > None of this works. > > 3. @slartibartfast, I'm going to carefully examine those udev rules. > Even with a clean pCP and LMS installation (I started anew yesterday > evening) this is my experience since I started yesterday from scratch: > The last thing I did was setup the whole environment with pCP and LMS. I > confirmed music was playing just fine and went to bed. A few hours later > (like 8h later) I decided now I would play some music. This is what > happened: > > I switched on my amp. My DAC was in standby (I had manually forced > standby when I went to bed because pCP wouldn't allow it to go into > standby). I chose a new song in Tidal on LMS. My DAC wouldn't wake up > automatically. I woke it up by using the remote control. The DAC woke > up. No music came out of my speakers. I switched to a new song track. > Nothing. Nada. I skipped the current song. Nada. I then went to pCP > admin interface and restarted pCP. Music started to sound. > > Having to go to pCP admin interface and force a restart is utterly > annoying.It sounds like the DAC has switched to a different input. I could > never force standby when the pCP input was selected. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > @slartibartfast, where did you put this commands? > > > Code: > > I added > user command 1 uhubctl -l 1-1 -p 4 -a 0 > user command 2 uhubctl -l 1-1 -p 4 -a 1 > which toggles the power to USB port 4. This works without any added time delay so I think that is good enough for me. > > > > Here? > 39346 > > How do I figure out what port is my USB DAC hooked up to? I think lsusb from a command prompt tells you which ports devices are on. My commands work on a Pi3B, other Pis could be different. Strangely I didn't need those commands on Raspbian, only for pCP Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > > This is a Radio Paradise stream, I shut down the raspberry pi with the > sudo command. > > The usb icon on the dac flashes for one minute and then goes into > standby. > Yes, this is expected. When the DAC senses that no signal is being input, it will go into standby. > > I wait a few minutes and repower the raspberry pi; the dac comes back to > life, I select a Radio Paradise stream and it plays. > While the DAC is offline (fully powered off), if you reboot pCP, it won't be able to initialise squeezelite, right? I reported this 'here' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/173). I would expect it to be able to start, even the USB DAC is not detected. > > I repeat the process > > Then whilstplaying I power off the dac, it goes into standby and then I > unplug it. > What do you power off? the DAC or LMS? > > I shutdown the the raspberrypi and wait for a few minutes. > > Power on the raspberrypi; power up the dac, it autoselects usb > > I go to LMS web gui, refresh and select a Radio Paradise stream, music > plays. > > > > I'll adjust the squeezelite output command to match that for Kitus's > output and make a copy of the image. > > > ronnie Cool! that may help yes. Thanks Ronnie! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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slartibartfast wrote: > I thought I had just read a post by you saying that, must have been a > different thread as I can't find it now [emoji1787]. > For my E30 I used my udev rule on both pCP and Raspbian. They both > worked but in a different way. On pCP the DAC would go into standby > after playback stopped, while the Raspbian only entered standby when I > clicked the player power button in LMS. Probably some setting pCP I > suppose. Incidentally a coax connected Touch also doesn't allow an E30 > to go into standby. > The power saving in Standby is miniscule anyway (0.1W on mine) so apart > from being annoying to see the orange display is it worth using > standby? > > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk @slartibartfast, where did you put this commands? Code: I added user command 1 uhubctl -l 1-1 -p 4 -a 0 user command 2 uhubctl -l 1-1 -p 4 -a 1 which toggles the power to USB port 4. This works without any added time delay so I think that is good enough for me. Here? 39346 +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2022-12-08 at 15.52.53.png| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39346| +---+ kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
All right, I see I have accidentally triggered some activity here :) I'm going to try and answer the few questions I seem to have picked up. 1. What do I do when I go out go fetch a bottle of milk? I go to LMS and stop the active Tidal stream. 2. What I would expect would happen? I would expect pCP would simply let go of the transmission channel. My DAC would notice activity ceases and it would silently go into standby. None of this works. 3. @slartibartfast, I'm going to carefully examine those udev rules. Even with a clean pCP and LMS installation (I started anew yesterday evening) this is my experience since I started yesterday from scratch: The last thing I did was setup the whole environment with pCP and LMS. I confirmed music was playing just fine and went to bed. A few hours later (like 8h later) I decided now I would play some music. This is what happened: I switched on my amp. My DAC was in standby (I had manually forced standby when I went to bed because pCP wouldn't allow it to go into standby). I chose a new song in Tidal on LMS. My DAC wouldn't wake up automatically. I woke it up by using the remote control. The DAC woke up. No music came out of my speakers. I switched to a new song track. Nothing. Nada. I skipped the current song. Nada. I then went to pCP admin interface and restarted pCP. Music started to sound. Having to go to pCP admin interface and force a restart is utterly annoying. kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > Porcupine tea, shirley shume mishtake:) > > ronnie 39345 sorry all, couldn't resist...back to our regularly scheduled discussion... Jim +---+ |Filename: pptea.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39345| +---+ Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Code: pi@3bplus:~ $ sudo nano /etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service pi@3bplus:~ $ sudo systemctl daemon-reload sudo systemctl enable squeezelite.service sudo systemctl start squeezelite.service sudo systemctl status squeezelite.service Created symlink /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/squeezelite.service /etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service. squeezelite.service - squeezelite Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/squeezelite.service; enabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: active (running) since Thu 2022-12-08 11:52:54 GMT; 79ms ago Main PID: 801 (squeezelite) Tasks: 4 (limit: 1596) CPU: 41ms CGroup: /system.slice/squeezelite.service 801 /usr/bin/squeezelite -n Squeezelite -o front:CARD=Pro,DEV=0 -a 80 4 0 -C 5 Dec 08 11:52:54 3bplus systemd[1]: Started squeezelite. pi@3bplus:~ $ sudo shutdown -h now This is a Radio Paradise stream, I shut down the raspberry pi with the sudo command. The usb icon on the dac flashes for one minute and then goes into standby. I wait a few minutes and repower the raspberry pi; the dac comes back to life, I select a Radio Paradise stream and it plays. I repeat the process Then whilstplaying I power off the dac, it goes into standby and then I unplug it. I shutdown the the raspberrypi and wait for a few minutes. Power on the raspberrypi; power up the dac, it autoselects usb I go to LMS web gui, refresh and select a Radio Paradise stream, music plays. I'll adjust the squeezelite output command to match that for Kitus's output and make a copy of the image. ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Redrum wrote: > I never thought of it that way, that it had a name, I always though > Occam's Razor was just a Porcupine Tree song. :) > > Jim Porcupine tea, shirley shume mishtake:) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > > It's Jim's (redrum) Occam razor theory :) > I never thought of it that way, that it had a name, I always though Occam's Razor was just a Porcupine Tree song. :) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > I can't remember slarti :(:rolleyes: > > What I'm going to prepose, is a test with RPI OS Bullseye Lite, a basic > LMS and Squeezelite to dertermine if the standby function works. > > I'm just now making an image to send to kitus (if he (gender > neutral)wants to partake) > > It's Jim's (redrum) Occam razor theory :) > > ronnieI thought I had just read a post by you saying that, must have have been a different thread as I can't find it now [emoji1787]. For my E30 I used my udev rule on both pCP and Raspbian. They both worked but in a different way. On pCP the DAC would go into standby after playback stopped, while the Raspbian only entered standby when I clicked the player power button in LMS. Probably some setting pCP I suppose. Incidentally a coax connected Touch also doesn't allow an E30 to go into standby. The power saving in Standby is miniscule anyway (0.1W on mine) so apart from being annoying to see the orange display is it worth using standby? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
slartibartfast wrote: > Ronnie I thought you said that your DAC doesn't go into standby unless > you selected a different input. > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk I can't remember slarti :(:rolleyes: What I'm going to prepose, is a test with RPI OS Bullseye Lite, a basic LMS and Squeezelite to dertermine if the standby function works. I'm just now making an image to send to kitus (if he (gender neutral)wants to partake) It's Jim's (redrum) Occam razor theory :) ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > @ kitus > > I don't think the output setting is related (at the moment, anyway) to > the dac problem. > > Please describe how the stanby function does not work. > > How do you ensure that the standby function in enabled, music is playing > and you want to go and get a bottle of milk from the corner shop; > > what do you do ? > > ronnieRonnie I thought you said that your DAC doesn't go into standby unless you selected a different input. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > > slartibartfast wrote: > > > > > > FFS!! really? that's just awesome! so, help me understand this: > > > > > > > > > - When your system is idle, your DAC goes into standby state > - Once it is in standby, when you open LMS and start playing a > > song, your DAC wakes up automatically > - Your system wakes up cleanly and you don't need to fumble around > > with restarting your pCP > > > > > > > > Basically yes. The udev rules you use will be different to mine just > because the DAC will have a different ID. I think > lsusb > is the command to find the info > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1064852 > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
@ kitus I don't think the output setting is related (at the moment, anyway) to the dac problem. Please describe how the stanby function does not work. How do you ensure that the standby function in enabled, music is playing and you want to go and get a bottle of milk from the corner shop; what do you do ? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
slartibartfast wrote: > > kitus wrote: > > The pop was caused by my own amateurish attempts to get the DAC to go > > into standby described early in that thread. The method described there > > solved that issue. The github thread is a little hard to follow mainly > > because of my confusion [emoji3]. The udev power rule does let the DAC > > go into standby though (with no pop). > > > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk> > > > FFS!! really? that's just awesome! so, help me understand this: > > > > - When your system is idle, your DAC goes into standby state - Once it is in standby, when you open LMS and start playing a song, > your DAC wakes up automatically - Your system wakes up cleanly and you don't need to fumble around > with restarting your pCP > > > kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > > slartibartfast wrote: > > If your pCP doesn't allow your Topping DAC to go into standby I am > > guessing you didn't investigate the solution discussed here > > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1064852 > > > > Hi, thanks for your answer. I did investigate that issue but unless I'm > > missing something, the main topic covered in that Github issue is an > > audible pop made by a specific consignment of one particular topping > > model. As that did not cover my particular scenario, I created this > > 'GitHub issue' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/172).> > > > The pop was caused by my own amateurish attempts to get the DAC to go > into standby described early in that thread. The method described > there solved that issue. The github thread is a little hard to follow > mainly because of my confusion [emoji3]. The udev power rule does let > the DAC go into standby though (with no pop). > > Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
slartibartfast wrote: > If your pCP doesn't allow your Topping DAC to go into standby I am > guessing you didn't investigate the solution discussed here > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1064852 > > Hi, thanks for your answer. I did investigate that issue but unless I'm > missing something, the main topic covered in that Github issue is an > audible pop made by a specific consignment of one particular topping > model. As that did not cover my particular scenario, I created this > 'GitHub issue' (https://github.com/ralph-irving/squeezelite/issues/172). kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > Hi Man in a van! long time no see! > > Sure! here you go! > 3934139342 > > Note that I'm using "front" because of what I found 'here' > (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109934-LMS-could-not-reestablish-any-USB-connection-after-USB-Dac-is-disconnected=961322#post961322).If > your pCP doesn't allow your Topping DAC to go into standby I am guessing you didn't investigate the solution discussed here https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=1064852 Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Man in a van wrote: > Would you please be so kind as to post your dac settings from the pCP > Squeezelite tab ?:) > > Hi Man in a van! long time no see! Sure! here you go! 3934139342 +---+ |Filename: Screenshot 2022-12-08 at 11.13.22.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39342| +---+ kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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kitus wrote: > I just started with a clean pCP and LMS install. Added -C 10, just to > allow a bit more idle time. My DAC wont go into standby. It looks like > pCP will keep the interface up and that results in my DAC not letting go > of the channel, and always remaining on. Back to square one I believe. Would you please be so kind as to post your dac settings from the pCP Squeezelite tab ?:) These are mine (Topping DX3 Pro) 39339 and 39340 Thanks ronnie +---+ |Filename: kitus2.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=39340| +---+ Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
chrissy wrote: > Hi, > > I do what you want to all the time on different usb dacs, for example > questyle cma400, cma twelve and Steinberg Dac. I alway turn off the dac > and when I turn it on, I'm able to play music. Have you tried the -C 1 > option on squeezelite. Maybe there is something special about your dac > or your insralltion of pcp. Generally it works, at least for me. What > type of dac is it? Regarding spotify I have no ideas since I use quobuz. > This works like a charm with the lms-connect app for the > 3rd-party-sotware area in this forum. > Greets > Christian I just started with a clean pCP and LMS install. Added -C 10, just to allow a bit more idle time. My DAC wont go into standby. It looks like pCP will keep the interface up and that results in my DAC not letting go of the channel, and always remaining on. Back to square one I believe. kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Hi, I do what you want to all the time on different usb dacs, for example questyle cma400, cma twelve and Steinberg Dac. I alway turn off the dac and when I turn it on, I'm able to play music. Have you tried the -C 1 option on squeezelite. Maybe there is something special about your dac or your insralltion of pcp. Generally it works, at least for me. What type of dac is it? Regarding spotify I have no ideas since I use quobuz. This works like a charm with the lms-connect app for the 3rd-party-sotware area in this forum. Greets Christian Raspi 4 as server for various things besides lms Raspi 3 feeding a SPL Phonitor xe for headphones Minidsp shd running squeezelite feeding a poweramp and a pair of Nubert nuvero 70 and 2 elac Sub 2070 2 Squeezebox Radios (kitchen and bath) Nubert NuPro A200, AW350 Sub , raspi 3 with hifiberry digi+ for the bedroom raspi A with M2Tech HiFace usb dac and JBL Control 1 for the balcony :-) chrissy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=47801 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I read the OP yesterday and decided to keep quiet as to not be a distraction. Something I should do more often. I use a pi3b+ with pcp as a server, but I have no squeeze lite devices. But I had one thought, so I returned here today. Why not just start with a fresh install of pcp on your 3b+, follow the "how to's" exactly, and see if you can get good behavior out of the headphone jack? You can use phones/buds, or just use a jack->rca cable and plug it into an amp/speakers. >From what I remember, to get that far takes just a few minutes. Get that working, then take the next step. Identify the step that breaks it...or, cheer if it just works in the end :) If you decide to try this, make sure you check everything at each step (i.e. your spotify connect issue too) Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
tw99 wrote: > Have a look at this thread for a possible setting that will help with > the standby issues with PcP. Basically you need to choose the output > device that has "front:" listed. Someone on this thread said that it > fixed his problem with a Topping DAC > > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109934-LMS-could-not-reestablish-any-USB-connection-after-USB-Dac-is-disconnected=961322#post961322 Thanks a lot for this. I had seen that thread and applied that to my configuration but I have not seen any significant change. As a consequence, I continued searching for a solution and ended up giving usbconnectd, but the complete solution is not working fine for me as described 'here' (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?113661-Start-restart-squeezelite-when-plug-in-USB-dac=1066509=1#post1066509)... :( kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
Have a look at this thread for a possible setting that will help with the standby issues with PcP. Basically you need to choose the output device that has "front:" listed. https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?109934-LMS-could-not-reestablish-any-USB-connection-after-USB-Dac-is-disconnected=961322#post961322 tw99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=51684 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > Thanks Sam! one quesiton: do you somehow relate to the issues I > described? I will find a spare SD as suggested by RobbH, and give this a > try! Are you on a premium subscription?That is one benefit of the Raspberry > Pi. With a few SD cards you can try many different installations and easily switch back any time. In fact you don't even need many SD cards. Once you find a reliable method to backup and restore you can reuse them. I've had Macrium Reflect (free) installed on my laptop for years and very rarely used it for anything. I tried using it to backup my Pi SD card and it worked perfectly and only backed up the used sectors meaning it can be easily restored to a smaller SD card if necessary. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
SamY wrote: > I would suggest looking into the Max2Play distribution. Been using it > for 6+ years. Check it out 'here' (https://www.max2play.com/en/). Thanks Sam! one quesiton: do you somehow relate to the issues I described? I will find a spare SD as suggested by RobbH, and give this a try! Are you on a premium subscription? kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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Greg Erskine wrote: > @kitus > > Don't forget there are other audio distributions to try. > > Or, you can load squeezelite and LMS onto Raspberry Pi OS (or another > version of Linux). I didn't know about this! Will certainly give that a try!! kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
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RobbH wrote: > I do not know if I can help you, as I have no experience with your > issues, so anything I say is mainly speculation. I have very little > expertise; I'm just a user of LMS who likes to tiniker. There is a very > good chance that everything I say will turn out to be wrong! > > Philosophically, I think starting anew makes sense, but you do not have > to ditch entirely the current setup in order to do so. Just set the > current SD card aside and start over with a fresh SD card. You can > always go back to the current one if the second attempt does not work > out. You are a lot more familiar with pCP now than when you first set it > up, so it is possible that you misunderstood or overlooked something > then. Is it likely? I don't know, but it should be easy to try. > > I have one suggestion for you. As I said, it is not based on any > personal experience, so it may not be helpful. > > In the pCP (not LMS) web interface, go to the Squeezelite Settings tab. > About halfway down the page there is a field for "Close output setting." > Put some value in that field and click the "Save" button below. This > will tell Squeezelite to release the output device after a number of > seconds (the value you put in the field) of silence. This is intended to > allow Squeezelite to share the output device with other players, instead > of keeping it locked when not in use. It is not intended to help with > your situation, and it may not. But since it does require Squeezelite to > reconnect with the output device when it is used again, I think it might > be worth a try. > > I hope I am not wasting your time with this suggestion, although that > may well be the case. Good luck! > > Incidentally, you may already be aware of this, but just in case it > might be helpful to know that Squeezelite is not a commercial product. > No one is paid to maintain it. When work is done on it, it is done in > spare time, as available. You may not see signs of progress, especially > if it is not clear that the problem is within Squeezelite. Thanks for investing the time to answer my question. Any potential hint is much appreciated, regardless of whether it solves my issues or not. I do know that pCP is not a commercial solution. I know it is very much a donation based project (I donated a few bucks recently) :) I will take a look at the "Close output setting"! :) kitus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=73121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
I would suggest looking into the Max2Play distribution. Been using it for 6+ years. Check it out 'here' (https://www.max2play.com/en/). Sam SamY's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=63495 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
@kitus Don't forget there are other audio distributions to try. Or, you can load squeezelite and LMS onto Raspberry Pi OS (other another version of Linux). Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] In love with SqueezeLite and LMS. Frustrated at the same time.
kitus wrote: > I have started to consider to ditch my current setup and start anew > with a vanilla pCP. > > Could somebody help me stabilise my system? Should I start anew? > > I thank you all in advance! I do not know if I can help you, as I have no experience with your issues, so anything I say is mainly speculation. I have very little expertise; I'm just a user of LMS who likes to tiniker. There is a very good chance that everything I say will turn out to be wrong! Philosophically, I think starting anew makes sense, but you do not have to ditch entirely the current setup in order to do so. Just set the current SD card aside and start over with a fresh SD card. You can always go back to the current one if the second attempt does not work out. You are a lot more familiar with pCP now than when you first set it up, so it is possible that you misunderstood or overlooked something then. Is it likely? I don't know, but it should be easy to try. I have one suggestion for you. As I said, it is not based on any personal experience, so it may not be helpful. In the pCP (not LMS) web interface, go to the Squeezelite Settings tab. About halfway down the page there is a field for "Close output setting." Put some value in that field and click the "Save" button below. This will tell Squeezelite to release the output device after a number of seconds (the value you put in the field) of silence. This is intended to allow Squeezelite to share the output device with other players, instead of keeping it locked when not in use. It is not intended to help with your situation, and it may not. But since it does require Squeezelite to reconnect with the output device when it is used again, I think it might be worth a try. I hope I am not wasting your time with this suggestion, although that may well be the case. Good luck! Incidentally, you may already be aware of this, but just in case it might be helpful to know that Squeezelite is not a commercial product. No one is paid to maintain it. When work is done on it, it is done in spare time, as available. You may not see signs of progress, especially if it is not clear that the problem is within Squeezelite. Usually running latest beta LMS nightly on Raspberry Pi OS with virtual players (Squeezelite and Airplay bridge). Occasionally using SB Radio, Boom or Classic. RobbH's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=67008 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=117179 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
