RE: Store.exe in Task Manager
Why is that correct? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go unused, now did you? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory it can. It will also release memory if another program needs some. You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing nothing? -Original Message- From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4. When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe process it only has a value of 25 MB. Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?) Many thaks Kurt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Store.exe in Task Manager
I understand perfectly, although I think it's 'a correct line' not 'the correct line'. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 17:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager It's a saying that Ed is known for. It quite correctly applies though. If you buy 2gb of memory for your Exchange server, what good is it doing if only 512mb gets used. Does it make you feel better if there is lots of memory available in reserve just in case? Memory is much faster to use than using pagefile, ergo Exchange wants to use memory if it is available. Now do you understand why we always use that line? Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:44 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Store.exe in Task Manager Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager Why is that correct? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [MVP] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 October 2003 16:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager The correct line is, You didn't buy all that memory just to have it go unused, now did you? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Blackstone Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:25 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Store.exe in Task Manager This is normal behavior for Exchange. It will grab every bit of memory it can. It will also release memory if another program needs some. You bought all that memory, do you really want to waste it just doing nothing? -Original Message- From: Berepoot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Store.exe in Task Manager Using: W2K sp3 + Exch 2K sp4. When I look in Task Manager I see that the store.exe process has a size of about 700 MB. When I reboot my server and I look again to the store.exe process it only has a value of 25 MB. Is there a way to do this manually in stead of rebooting? Ok, I could do this probably by restarting the services, but is it also possible to act without stopping the services. (And maybe an extra: how come?) Many thaks Kurt _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
POP3 clients external mail delayed
Something strange is happening with POP3 clients on our Exchange 5.5 SP4 server. When they send mail to other mailboxes on the exchange server, no problem, the mail arrives immediately. When they send to external recipients the mail takes ages to be delivered, e.g. we sent a test message on Thursday afternoon and it didn't arrive in the external mailbox until Friday morning! The messages aren't stuck in the IMC queues and I'm not sure where else to look. Any help much appreciated! Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our development team because it's the only product they've found that they can properly interface with via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still feel a bit sick about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. -Original Message- From: Ben Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 15:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup You won't find many recommendations to perform brick-level backups here. At least not from competent Exchange Admins. Do a full online backup, implement deleted items retention and deleted mailbox retention and go eat some cookies. As for your comment about Arkanserve crashing, well I'll be! I NEVER had a problem with it when I used it (grin). Truthfully, Arggserver is the biggest piece of crap software that I have ever come across. It doesn't surprise me that brick-backups/restores fail using it. I couldn't even get a good restore from an ONLINE backup using it. Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Aaron Shimmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 8:19 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: Brick Level Backup Hi all What is the best brick level backup software for Exchange 2000? I have gave up on Arcserve as it crashes to many times on critical restores. Any advice welcome. Regards Aaron Shimmons Network Administrator _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=; lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Brick Level Backup
really? i was told that functionality was missing on the restore side. maybe our team only tested backupexec - i'll pass this onto them. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 September 2003 16:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup Veritas NetBackup can be fully controlled via CLI. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 9:47 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: Brick Level Backup Subject: RE: Brick Level Backup We are being forced to re-evaluate arcserve by our development team because it's the only product they've found that they can properly interface with via CLI or API. This isn't for exchange backups, but I still feel a bit sick about the idea of arcserve being installed on any of our servers. We're told that the latest version is stable, but I'm skeptical. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the internet? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server That would be you're. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Can't spell when your upset. I don't want to argue anymore. I have work to do. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the name correctly. :-) -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a computer software. Get a life.looser boy!!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time. I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha. I'm a messaging services manager, running communications for a company with offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of sites in it. The people whose opinions I actually care about in the technical arena know what I know and/or can do. Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful. Still am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you. You want nice? I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be nice. Hell, I'll even cook dinner. You want to post here with a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you. You don't like it? Tough. Like you said in one of your last pieces of drivel, don't read it. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server See, this is what I am talking about. You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends! LOL -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Thanks Tony for your advice. Why do you care what I ask on this listserv? I thought this list was for questions. Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid to you, but they are not. Who made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and which ones are not? If you are too good for the questions being asked on this list then don't answer. I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server. I have picked up a few good books in the past few weeks and they are helpful and hopefully I won't have to bother this list.I wish for nothing more. But until I become a pro like yourself, I will look to people like yourself who know this stuff backwards and forwards to give some direction. I take great offense to your undeserved comments and wish that you could remember the days when you were learning. I was given this project and am doing the best I can. This list is for getting help, not a social event for buddies. It is a shame that you are not more patient. Thanks and I have appreciated your help in the past. Samantha -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:45 AM To: Exchange
RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server
Ok so you correct spoken grammatical errors in regular day to day situations, and enjoy it. Is this with strangers? Are you often punched? -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 August 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server I do. It is rather annoying to hear people speaking incorrectly. Please drive through. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Do you enjoy correcting people's grammar when you're not on the internet? -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 19:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server That would be you're. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bridges, Samantha Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 8:44 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Can't spell when your upset. I don't want to argue anymore. I have work to do. -Original Message- From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Loser boy. If you are gonna call people names, please at least spell the name correctly. :-) -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Oooohhhyou are sooo cool! Can I be your only friend because you know Exchange?? (what a dork!) I am not whiny or lazy or technically lacking thank you very much. I think you are lacking in other manhood areas and have to prove yourself by being the best at a computer software. Get a life.looser boy!!! -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:28 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We can debate my geek, nerd or friends status some other time. I don't have single thing to prove, Exchange wise, here Samantha. I'm a messaging services manager, running communications for a company with offices all over the world - my Exchange org. has a ridiculous number of sites in it. The people whose opinions I actually care about in the technical arena know what I know and/or can do. Go check the archives - you'll find that I used to be helpful. Still am, sometimes - just not to whiny, lazy, technically lacking people like you. You want nice? I'll let you know my private consulting rate, and I'll be nice. Hell, I'll even cook dinner. You want to post here with a complete expectation that someone else is going to do even the most basic research for you, and occasionally you're going to get someone like me pissed at you. You don't like it? Tough. Like you said in one of your last pieces of drivel, don't read it. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server See, this is what I am talking about. You are a real classy guy..probably some geek, nerd with no friends! LOL -Original Message- From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 10:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server We care because you're a time wasting, freebie wanting, idiot. -Original Message- From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 August 2003 10:17 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Services Not Restarting After Reboot of Server Thanks Tony for your advice. Why do you care what I ask on this listserv? I thought this list was for questions. Maybe the questions asked by people in this list seem stupid to you, but they are not. Who made you the judge of what questions are good/helpful and which ones are not? If you are too good for the questions being asked on this list then don't answer. I don't know if all you do all day is work on an Exchange servers but I wear many hats here in the name of special education children and I don't have time during or after work everyday/and every minute to read books on Exchange server. I have picked up
RE: New Entourage
I'm thinking about trying out citrix -Original Message- From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2003 19:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage So are OSX Macs therefore doomed to OWA, or is there an alternative? -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage I think they did away with Outlook because they were in the semi-absurd situation of maintaining three entirely different mail clients for the Mac, none of which made everyone, happy, and two of which weren't OS X native, so they needed major upgrades, and were free. I don't find it at all incomprehensable that they'd concentrate their resources on the product that generates some revenue. As far as Entourage's new Exchange awareness goes, it's about what you'd expect from a point upgrade. -Peter -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage I don't doubt it. That makes perfect business sense. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for the Mac because OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first OS with a legitimate chance of displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop. It meets the requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc). Therefore, the only missing app is a full blown Outlook client. Its Microsoft's only way to stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage This is more venting than any serious question: What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1) What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be coded from scratch) You must enable IMAP on your Exchange server? Why did they get rid of the Outlook product? Why make an organization with Macs go through so many hoops? It's not like they have to code from scratch. It makes no sense. The whole idea is to make the products across both platforms the same or mostly the same. They didn't take Word or Excel, retool it, take out some important features and call it something else, did they? Keerist!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange aware, you mean 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding free/busy and and automatic configuration of address book and other account settings to support Exchange qualifies, then maybe. From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Entourage I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be Exchange-aware if it was, right? When we looked at this for our lone Mac user ~18 months ago we had to settle for the previous version of Outlook and the user had to switch between OSX for Office and OS9 for Outlook since we didn't want to open up IMAP or POP3 for him. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New Entourage
Ok, can anyone confirm how it works with E2K? With 5.5 you get what looks like an IMAP connection... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 August 2003 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage Its designed for E2K or higher -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 8:37 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage I got the same results you did, using Entourage with an Exchange 5.5 server. Does it maybe work better with 2000? -Peter -Original Message- From: Mike Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 5:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage I myself don't like the Entourage update for Office X. I don't get anything more than I did with IMAP it seems. Any public folders that are set to be of Calendar type or Contact type don't show up correctly. Is there a list of specific benefits of the update over just using IMAP? -Mike Carlson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uselessthoughts.com - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:11 AM Subject: RE: New Entourage I'm thinking about trying out citrix -Original Message- From: Holstrom, Don [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 August 2003 19:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage So are OSX Macs therefore doomed to OWA, or is there an alternative? -Original Message- From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 1:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage I think they did away with Outlook because they were in the semi-absurd situation of maintaining three entirely different mail clients for the Mac, none of which made everyone, happy, and two of which weren't OS X native, so they needed major upgrades, and were free. I don't find it at all incomprehensable that they'd concentrate their resources on the product that generates some revenue. As far as Entourage's new Exchange awareness goes, it's about what you'd expect from a point upgrade. -Peter -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 10:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage I don't doubt it. That makes perfect business sense. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage My personal opinion is that they did away with Outlook for the Mac because OS X, especially Jaguar (10.2.x) is the first OS with a legitimate chance of displacing Microsoft from their dominance of the desktop. It meets the requirements of having Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/etc). Therefore, the only missing app is a full blown Outlook client. Its Microsoft's only way to stop the tide without giving up their entire Mac offering. Roger -- Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis Inc. -Original Message- From: Erik Sojka [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 9:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: New Entourage This is more venting than any serious question: What about MAPI? (Outlook for OfficeX-1) What about RPC over HTTP? (I know that would have to be coded from scratch) You must enable IMAP on your Exchange server? Why did they get rid of the Outlook product? Why make an organization with Macs go through so many hoops? It's not like they have to code from scratch. It makes no sense. The whole idea is to make the products across both platforms the same or mostly the same. They didn't take Word or Excel, retool it, take out some important features and call it something else, did they? Keerist!! -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 4:02 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: New Entourage Depends on how one defines Exchange aware. If by Exchange aware, you mean 'it's Outlook' then no. If understanding free/busy and and automatic configuration of address book and other account settings to support Exchange qualifies, then maybe. From: Erik Sojka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 15:29:57 -0400 To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New Entourage I haven't looked at it yet, but it wouldn't be Exchange-aware if it was, right? When we
RE: New Entourage
Configuring an Outlook for the Mac to connect across subnets? I need that ongoing pain like I need another hole in my head. It's not hard, just a hosts file or DNS entry then it workshow is this so different from windows? Why did they get rid of the Outlook product? Hopefully because they realized it sucked complete ass. Entourage was a better product at 1.0 than Outlook for the mac had ever been. Outlook 2001 would be perfectly adequate if they fixed the HTML rendering, made task requests work and sorted a few other flaws that escape me. It's not exactly a major re-write, just a service pack. Even without these fixes OL2001 is workable, we have 200 mac users who are getting on with their jobs. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
New Entourage
An update is available for office X on the mac which includes the new exchange-aware entourage. http://www.microsoft.com/mac/downloads.aspx?pid=downloadlocation=/mac/DOWNL OAD/OFFICEX/exchangeupdate.xmlsecid=5ssid=14flgnosysreq=True Our first impressions are that it's a load of rubbish. Seems very slow, doesn't integrate well with our exchange 5.5. Anyone else tried it? dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
No, you don't have to stop the services. Please clarify how you are using veritas; i.e. are you looking on the relevant drive and ticking priv.edb as a file to backup? If so, this won't work, you need to tick 'Microsoft Exchange Information Store' in the veritas directory tree. If this doesn't appear then your exchange agent isn't installed properly. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Well, actually we are running veritas with the exchange agent, only thing is that the PRIV.EDB file is skipped. I thought that in order to backup the PRIV.EDB file you have to stop the exchange services? Any ideas? Paul -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Oh, the backup won't cause any problems. Not that it would be of any use... Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working It is quite possible to do a backup of Exchange 5.5 WITHOUT stopping the services. You either use NTBackup, or use a 3rd party backup utility with an Exchange Agent. If you decide to not use either of those 2 methods, you sure as heck better stop the Exchange services first, otherwise you will be attempting to back up an open database file as a flat file. Not good! Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Hello All, First, wanted to say that you guys have always been a great help in the past. I have a simple, but probably dumb question. I need some ammo though before I get back to one of my employees about what he's doing. Can someone just verify what I'm saying... It is not possible to back-up the PRIV.EDB files on Exchange 5.5 unless you stop the Exchange services right? One of my guys is trying to run a veritas backup that includes the PRIV.EDB file, and the file is skipped during the back-up operation. I advised him as to why it does this, and how to correctly do it. He still swears that it's veritas software screwing up... Any help would be great, Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working (FYI the mailbox needs Owner rights.) So if the EventConfig permissions are set, reinstall the AutoAccept script on the mailbox and you should be able to test it immediately. If that doesn't work, try stopping and starting the Event service again and retest. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Rob, I found it and set the permissions. I suppose it takes time to synch it up.. Mike -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Rob I am fairly new at AutoAccept utilities... Where do I look for the EventConfig folder? Sorry. Mike -Original Message- From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Hi Mike. Have you set up the client permissions for the mailbox in the EventConfig folder? I've forgotten to do that on occasion.And I think I learned the hard way that if this step was missed, you need to uninstall the Autoaccept script again, set up the EventConfig settings, then reinstall the script. Rob Sargent -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:57 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Ed, Thanks. I thought that was the case, so I deleted the AutoAccept folder on the resource. I then ran the AutoAccept utility script on that new resource. I checked the event Service and it was running. Nothing happened. I then stopped and started the service again. To no avail. Nothing happens. Help Thanks... Ed, you are the best, or so they say!!!
RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
No, you can't do that, if you want to copy priv.edb on it's own you have to stop the services. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working We are ticking off the option for the Information Store, but have now modified the job to backup the PRIV.EDB as well. Only reason we're doing this is because we would like to have the actual PRIV.EDB in a backup media for access by one of our 3rd party applications that can access the PRIV.EDB, and extract mailboxes or actual messages. Paul -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working No, you don't have to stop the services. Please clarify how you are using veritas; i.e. are you looking on the relevant drive and ticking priv.edb as a file to backup? If so, this won't work, you need to tick 'Microsoft Exchange Information Store' in the veritas directory tree. If this doesn't appear then your exchange agent isn't installed properly. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Well, actually we are running veritas with the exchange agent, only thing is that the PRIV.EDB file is skipped. I thought that in order to backup the PRIV.EDB file you have to stop the exchange services? Any ideas? Paul -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Oh, the backup won't cause any problems. Not that it would be of any use... Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working It is quite possible to do a backup of Exchange 5.5 WITHOUT stopping the services. You either use NTBackup, or use a 3rd party backup utility with an Exchange Agent. If you decide to not use either of those 2 methods, you sure as heck better stop the Exchange services first, otherwise you will be attempting to back up an open database file as a flat file. Not good! Ben Winzenz Network Engineer Gardner White (317) 581-1580 ext 418 -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 7:35 AM Posted To: Exchange (Swynk) Conversation: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Hello All, First, wanted to say that you guys have always been a great help in the past. I have a simple, but probably dumb question. I need some ammo though before I get back to one of my employees about what he's doing. Can someone just verify what I'm saying... It is not possible to back-up the PRIV.EDB files on Exchange 5.5 unless you stop the Exchange services right? One of my guys is trying to run a veritas backup that includes the PRIV.EDB file, and the file is skipped during the back-up operation. I advised him as to why it does this, and how to correctly do it. He still swears that it's veritas software screwing up... Any help would be great, Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:53 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working (FYI the mailbox needs Owner rights.) So if the EventConfig permissions are set, reinstall the AutoAccept script on the mailbox and you should be able to test it immediately. If that doesn't work, try stopping and starting the Event service again and retest. -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 1:42 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Rob, I found it and set the permissions. I suppose it takes time to synch it up.. Mike -Original Message- From: Mitchell Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:29 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Rob I am fairly new at AutoAccept utilities... Where do I look for the EventConfig folder? Sorry. Mike -Original Message- From: Sargent, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:26 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE
RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working
This powertools sounds interesting. When it reads the online backup from the tape does it need to read the whole thing or can it locate a mailbox, message etc on the tape and extract it? I tried to find out on the website but it's not exactly clear as to whether you can do this... We've had to do a few recovery restores to get back mailboxes in the past and while this is dead easy, it takes hours to restore the IS from tape. -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Right in that case the latest version of PowerTools is able to read the backup tape and get the priv.edb file directly from the Online Backup. Note I wrote online backup not offline backup. I don't know how this works as well use Netbackup but that is the way it is supposed to work, if not then call Ontrack support. You are never going to be able to backup the priv.edb unless you stop the information store which is not a good idea. If it can't read the tape directly then you would need to do an online restore to a separate server where the priv.edb will be located and you can then use PowerTools to access it. We have evaluated PowerTools and were not overly impressed it couldn't read priv.edb files if the database had been under load and created lots of transaction logs. I believe a newer version currently in beta and to be released in September may work better. Paul -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:39 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Bingo, That's the one... We were tryin to back-up the PRIV.EDB for easier access by the utility. But, we were sure that you can't directly back-up the PRIV.EDB. Just trying to quell an argument with one my guys, and needed to make sure that you weren't able to backup the PRIV.EDB without stopping the services. Thanks Paul -Original Message- From: Bendall, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:39 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working That is not possible you can't do a file backup of the databases files they are locked open unless you stop the IS. What app are you trying to use to read the edb files is it Ontrack's Power Tools? Regards, Paul -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working We are ticking off the option for the Information Store, but have now modified the job to backup the PRIV.EDB as well. Only reason we're doing this is because we would like to have the actual PRIV.EDB in a backup media for access by one of our 3rd party applications that can access the PRIV.EDB, and extract mailboxes or actual messages. Paul -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:22 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working No, you don't have to stop the services. Please clarify how you are using veritas; i.e. are you looking on the relevant drive and ticking priv.edb as a file to backup? If so, this won't work, you need to tick 'Microsoft Exchange Information Store' in the veritas directory tree. If this doesn't appear then your exchange agent isn't installed properly. -Original Message- From: Paul kondilys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 July 2003 17:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Well, actually we are running veritas with the exchange agent, only thing is that the PRIV.EDB file is skipped. I thought that in order to backup the PRIV.EDB file you have to stop the exchange services? Any ideas? Paul -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 12:17 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working Oh, the backup won't cause any problems. Not that it would be of any use... Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP Freelance E-Mail Philosopher Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!T -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Winzenz Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 9:14 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Auto Accept Utility stopped working It is quite possible to do a backup of Exchange 5.5 WITHOUT stopping the services. You either use NTBackup, or use a 3rd party backup utility with an Exchange Agent. If you decide to not use either of those 2 methods, you sure as heck better stop the Exchange services first, otherwise you will be attempting to back up an open
RE: best linux av?
this is the conclusion that i've come to, either that or kill some users -Original Message- From: Smith Joseph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 July 2003 04:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Get a bigger box! Joseph Smith Network Administrator Perlos, Inc. 5201 Alliance Gateway Fort Worth, TX 76178-3729 Work: 817-224-9012 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Yes, I see your point, although I'd hope my desktop AV would catch this stuff before it reaches the exchange server. What I don't like is the burden of a realtime scan on exchange. Perhaps a combination of gateway scanning, nightly mailbox scans and realtime desktop AV would be sufficient. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Do you really think that the *ONLY* possible way a virus can get into your Exchange environment is through your SMTP gateway? Let's say a user uses Outlook to POP an email from their personal account into their Exchange mailbox, and that email is infected. Or let's say that a user downloads a file from the Internet that infects their Exchange mailbox. Now what? Since you don't have any mailbox-level virus protection, you have to sit there and watch this thing propagate to all your users and infect all your mailboxes. But at least your gateway will clean it before it sends it out to your customers. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? why? -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? It is absolutely essential that you have virus protection on your Exchange servers, over and above whatever gateway virus protection you might be running. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Well, the linux products do file blocking etc so I don't any difference, apart from freeing up tons of CPU cycles on the exchange box and seeing less of that crappy 'retrieving data' dialog in outlook... -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 14:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? I'm kind of in a similar position, I just can't help but think that whatever you have at the gateway there's a bit of added reassurance having something like Scanmail on the Exchange box, given the file blocking capabilities and all. regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 13:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: best linux av? just wondering if anyone has a favourite AV scanner for linux with postfix as the mta? our trend renewal is coming up and i'm thinking i'd like to remove the CPU burden of AV scanning from the exchange box and put it on our linux relay which also does the spam filtering. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi- bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
best linux av?
just wondering if anyone has a favourite AV scanner for linux with postfix as the mta? our trend renewal is coming up and i'm thinking i'd like to remove the CPU burden of AV scanning from the exchange box and put it on our linux relay which also does the spam filtering. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: best linux av?
Well, the linux products do file blocking etc so I don't any difference, apart from freeing up tons of CPU cycles on the exchange box and seeing less of that crappy 'retrieving data' dialog in outlook... -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 14:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? I'm kind of in a similar position, I just can't help but think that whatever you have at the gateway there's a bit of added reassurance having something like Scanmail on the Exchange box, given the file blocking capabilities and all. regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 13:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: best linux av? just wondering if anyone has a favourite AV scanner for linux with postfix as the mta? our trend renewal is coming up and i'm thinking i'd like to remove the CPU burden of AV scanning from the exchange box and put it on our linux relay which also does the spam filtering. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: best linux av?
I though scanmail works on the IMS, not the MTA? Forgive my ignorance if not... -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Yes, but if (assuming for whatever reason the desktop AV doesn't kick in) someone downloads and runs something nasty, what would stop god knows what from being sent to all your internal users, even if the gateway AV traps it on the way out to the Internet? regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 14:56 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Well, the linux products do file blocking etc so I don't any difference, apart from freeing up tons of CPU cycles on the exchange box and seeing less of that crappy 'retrieving data' dialog in outlook... -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 14:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? I'm kind of in a similar position, I just can't help but think that whatever you have at the gateway there's a bit of added reassurance having something like Scanmail on the Exchange box, given the file blocking capabilities and all. regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 13:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: best linux av? just wondering if anyone has a favourite AV scanner for linux with postfix as the mta? our trend renewal is coming up and i'm thinking i'd like to remove the CPU burden of AV scanning from the exchange box and put it on our linux relay which also does the spam filtering. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: best linux av?
why? -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? It is absolutely essential that you have virus protection on your Exchange servers, over and above whatever gateway virus protection you might be running. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Well, the linux products do file blocking etc so I don't any difference, apart from freeing up tons of CPU cycles on the exchange box and seeing less of that crappy 'retrieving data' dialog in outlook... -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 14:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? I'm kind of in a similar position, I just can't help but think that whatever you have at the gateway there's a bit of added reassurance having something like Scanmail on the Exchange box, given the file blocking capabilities and all. regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 13:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: best linux av? just wondering if anyone has a favourite AV scanner for linux with postfix as the mta? our trend renewal is coming up and i'm thinking i'd like to remove the CPU burden of AV scanning from the exchange box and put it on our linux relay which also does the spam filtering. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi- bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: best linux av?
Yes you're right... As an aside, I just turned off the emanager component of Trend and this seems to have helped quite a bit with the CPU load. I'll do some monitoring next week to find out for sure... -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 16:09 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Nope, wrong. Once again you're assuming that all your desktops are happily protected and working fine, in fact that every link in the chain is in place and secure. With viruses you cannot ensure that. You have to attack viruses robustly on ALL fronts, with as few assumptions as possible. The it will be OK because or desktop PCs are protected approach is a recipe for disaster. Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Yes, I see your point, although I'd hope my desktop AV would catch this stuff before it reaches the exchange server. What I don't like is the burden of a realtime scan on exchange. Perhaps a combination of gateway scanning, nightly mailbox scans and realtime desktop AV would be sufficient. -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Do you really think that the *ONLY* possible way a virus can get into your Exchange environment is through your SMTP gateway? Let's say a user uses Outlook to POP an email from their personal account into their Exchange mailbox, and that email is infected. Or let's say that a user downloads a file from the Internet that infects their Exchange mailbox. Now what? Since you don't have any mailbox-level virus protection, you have to sit there and watch this thing propagate to all your users and infect all your mailboxes. But at least your gateway will clean it before it sends it out to your customers. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 10:22 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? why? -Original Message- From: Jason Clishe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 15:21 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? It is absolutely essential that you have virus protection on your Exchange servers, over and above whatever gateway virus protection you might be running. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 9:56 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? Well, the linux products do file blocking etc so I don't any difference, apart from freeing up tons of CPU cycles on the exchange box and seeing less of that crappy 'retrieving data' dialog in outlook... -Original Message- From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 14:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: best linux av? I'm kind of in a similar position, I just can't help but think that whatever you have at the gateway there's a bit of added reassurance having something like Scanmail on the Exchange box, given the file blocking capabilities and all. regards, Paul -- Paul Hutchings Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd. Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 July 2003 13:08 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: best linux av? just wondering if anyone has a favourite AV scanner for linux with postfix as the mta? our trend renewal is coming up and i'm thinking i'd like to remove the CPU burden of AV scanning from the exchange box and put it on our linux relay which also does the spam filtering. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: slow login with mac clients after restore.
Hmmm, this slow login problem has appeared again. All mac clients (outlook 2001) hang for five minutes after entering login credentials. After that the client works perfectly... - Exchange 5.5 SP4 - Macs connecting via IP - Mixed MAC OS versions (9.2 X) - All macs have correct hosts file, and dns servers (dns contains correct info) - Exchange was restored two days ago from backup, to the same server, 1gb of transaction logs played in - All other networking on macs seems fine - All windows clients are fine 1) Are we dealing with Exchange 5.5 or Exchange 2000? What service pack level are you running? 2) How are the Macs connected to the network? 3) What rev of the MAC OS are they running? 4) Do the Macs have a HOSTS file and if so is it setup correctly? 5) For the restore server did you change anything? More importantly, did you restore to the same hardware or to a completely new server? I'm assuming same hardware at this point. 6) Since the Macs can talk to the server what are the ping times like? (You can use MacPing to determine this if you run anything earlier than Mac OSX. If you are running MacOSX then bring up a terminal window and run it from there.). This will do for a start. Regards. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Atkinson, Daniel Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 06:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: slow login with mac clients after restore. last night we did a restore because we've been getting some database errors in the event log. we restored from a good backup and played in the log files as normal - everything worked great and we're up and running again, except now our mac users with outlook 2001 take about 5 minutes to log in. they enter credentials at startup and outlook 2001 just hangs for 5 minutes and then starts and works perfectly. we are going to restart the server at lunch to see if this fixes it but i'm not hopeful. any ideas? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl? enter=exchangetext_mode =la ng=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: slow login with mac clients after restore.
Yes, tried that, no difference... -Original Message- From: Henderson Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 13:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: slow login with mac clients after restore. Have you tried recreating the Outlook client exchange profile to see if the slow logon still occurs? -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 13:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: slow login with mac clients after restore. Hmmm, this slow login problem has appeared again. All mac clients (outlook 2001) hang for five minutes after entering login credentials. After that the client works perfectly... - Exchange 5.5 SP4 - Macs connecting via IP - Mixed MAC OS versions (9.2 X) - All macs have correct hosts file, and dns servers (dns contains correct info) - Exchange was restored two days ago from backup, to the same server, 1gb of transaction logs played in - All other networking on macs seems fine - All windows clients are fine 1) Are we dealing with Exchange 5.5 or Exchange 2000? What service pack level are you running? 2) How are the Macs connected to the network? 3) What rev of the MAC OS are they running? 4) Do the Macs have a HOSTS file and if so is it setup correctly? 5) For the restore server did you change anything? More importantly, did you restore to the same hardware or to a completely new server? I'm assuming same hardware at this point. 6) Since the Macs can talk to the server what are the ping times like? (You can use MacPing to determine this if you run anything earlier than Mac OSX. If you are running MacOSX then bring up a terminal window and run it from there.). This will do for a start. Regards. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Atkinson, Daniel Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 06:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:slow login with mac clients after restore. last night we did a restore because we've been getting some database errors in the event log. we restored from a good backup and played in the log files as normal - everything worked great and we're up and running again, except now our mac users with outlook 2001 take about 5 minutes to log in. they enter credentials at startup and outlook 2001 just hangs for 5 minutes and then starts and works perfectly. we are going to restart the server at lunch to see if this fixes it but i'm not hopeful. any ideas? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl? enter=exchangetext_mode =la ng=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ** This correspondence is confidential and is solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, you must not use, disclose, copy, distribute or retain this message or any part of it. If you are not the intended recipient please delete this correspondence from your system and notify the sender immediately. No warranty is given that this correspondence is free from any virus. In keeping with good computer practice, you should ensure that it is actually virus free. E-mail messages may be subject to delays, non-delivery and unauthorised alterations therefore, information expressed in this message is not given or endorsed by Sx3 unless otherwise notified by our duly authorised representative independent of this message. Sx3 is a trading name of Service and Systems Solutions Limited, a limited company registered in Northern Ireland
RE: slow login with mac clients after restore.
Ok thanks, will give it a go... -Original Message- From: Jeroen Peters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 18 June 2003 13:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: slow login with mac clients after restore. You could run tcpdump on the OsX clients to see what's going on. -Jeroen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: woensdag 18 juni 2003 14:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: slow login with mac clients after restore. Hmmm, this slow login problem has appeared again. All mac clients (outlook 2001) hang for five minutes after entering login credentials. After that the client works perfectly... - Exchange 5.5 SP4 - Macs connecting via IP - Mixed MAC OS versions (9.2 X) - All macs have correct hosts file, and dns servers (dns contains correct info) - Exchange was restored two days ago from backup, to the same server, 1gb of transaction logs played in - All other networking on macs seems fine - All windows clients are fine 1) Are we dealing with Exchange 5.5 or Exchange 2000? What service pack level are you running? 2) How are the Macs connected to the network? 3) What rev of the MAC OS are they running? 4) Do the Macs have a HOSTS file and if so is it setup correctly? 5) For the restore server did you change anything? More importantly, did you restore to the same hardware or to a completely new server? I'm assuming same hardware at this point. 6) Since the Macs can talk to the server what are the ping times like? (You can use MacPing to determine this if you run anything earlier than Mac OSX. If you are running MacOSX then bring up a terminal window and run it from there.). This will do for a start. Regards. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Atkinson, Daniel Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 06:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:slow login with mac clients after restore. last night we did a restore because we've been getting some database errors in the event log. we restored from a good backup and played in the log files as normal - everything worked great and we're up and running again, except now our mac users with outlook 2001 take about 5 minutes to log in. they enter credentials at startup and outlook 2001 just hangs for 5 minutes and then starts and works perfectly. we are going to restart the server at lunch to see if this fixes it but i'm not hopeful. any ideas? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl? enter=exchangetext_mode =la ng=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
slow login with mac clients after restore.
last night we did a restore because we've been getting some database errors in the event log. we restored from a good backup and played in the log files as normal - everything worked great and we're up and running again, except now our mac users with outlook 2001 take about 5 minutes to log in. they enter credentials at startup and outlook 2001 just hangs for 5 minutes and then starts and works perfectly. we are going to restart the server at lunch to see if this fixes it but i'm not hopeful. any ideas? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: slow login with mac clients after restore.
It's ok, the restart fixed it, some gremlin or other... Thanks anyway. -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 June 2003 12:57 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: slow login with mac clients after restore. Some questions first. 1) Are we dealing with Exchange 5.5 or Exchange 2000? What service pack level are you running? 2) How are the Macs connected to the network? 3) What rev of the MAC OS are they running? 4) Do the Macs have a HOSTS file and if so is it setup correctly? 5) For the restore server did you change anything? More importantly, did you restore to the same hardware or to a completely new server? I'm assuming same hardware at this point. 6) Since the Macs can talk to the server what are the ping times like? (You can use MacPing to determine this if you run anything earlier than Mac OSX. If you are running MacOSX then bring up a terminal window and run it from there.). This will do for a start. Regards. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Atkinson, Daniel Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 06:44 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:slow login with mac clients after restore. last night we did a restore because we've been getting some database errors in the event log. we restored from a good backup and played in the log files as normal - everything worked great and we're up and running again, except now our mac users with outlook 2001 take about 5 minutes to log in. they enter credentials at startup and outlook 2001 just hangs for 5 minutes and then starts and works perfectly. we are going to restart the server at lunch to see if this fixes it but i'm not hopeful. any ideas? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl? enter=exchangetext_mode =la ng=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
seems like a name resolution problem
I have an exchange server at another office on the end of a vpn tunnel. When the users from that office come here to work they can't connect to it. Similarly, when our users go there they can't connect to the exchange server here. The servers are in different orgs and different nt domains, no trusts exist between the domains. All users can ping the exchange servers, PDCs, BDCs etc by netbios name from either location. I can see correct 1Ch entries in our WINS for the DCs in each domain and i have even tried giving users lmhosts entries for their exchange server and DCs. No matter what i try outlook just hangs at login, or when clicking 'check names' in the profile setup... Any ideas? DNS occurs to me but I don't understand how DNS relates to logging into exchange - a brief explanation would be very much appreciated. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: seems like a name resolution problem
1. there are no entries in the local hosts files, dns entries do not exist for the exchange server or dc's - wins and lmhosts resolve the netbios names correctly. 2. there are 2 nt domains 2 exchange servers, each server is in a separate org and separate domain. Each user has an nt account in 1 domain, and a mailbox on the server in that domain. When they visit a remote office, they can't log in to their exchange server in the remote domain... I will set up dns entries and see if that helps... -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 June 2003 12:51 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: seems like a name resolution problem 1. Outlook by default will look to its hosts file first and then DNS ( and failing that lmhosts and WINS) to resolve the Exchange Server. 2. What domain are these users logging into? - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:54 AM Subject: seems like a name resolution problem I have an exchange server at another office on the end of a vpn tunnel. When the users from that office come here to work they can't connect to it. Similarly, when our users go there they can't connect to the exchange server here. The servers are in different orgs and different nt domains, no trusts exist between the domains. All users can ping the exchange servers, PDCs, BDCs etc by netbios name from either location. I can see correct 1Ch entries in our WINS for the DCs in each domain and i have even tried giving users lmhosts entries for their exchange server and DCs. No matter what i try outlook just hangs at login, or when clicking 'check names' in the profile setup... Any ideas? DNS occurs to me but I don't understand how DNS relates to logging into exchange - a brief explanation would be very much appreciated. thanks dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchanget ext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang =english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Web Interface: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=exchangetext_mode=lang=english To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY
Is this wireless calendar or sync? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 20 January 2003 14:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Exchange flavor BB or Internet mail flavor? -Original Message- From: Reed, Alexander [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 6:11 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OFFICE XP and BLACKBERRY Anyone know why appointments are doubled with Blackberry and Office XP? Thanks, Alex _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Groupwise forwarding to Exchange - OWA Problem
I have a user working at a customer site who has mail forwarded from an account on the customer's Groupwise server to our exchange server. She can read the mail fine when dialled in with Outlook, but no good with OWA. The mails appear as attachments called 'read.htm' and when she opens them it says 'the attachment is a type that is not yet supported''. Any ideas? Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Very OT - txt handling
You could do this in excel using VBA, write a little app that will parse the text file and update the excel sheet. Any VB/VBA developer should be able to help you with this. The idea is to find/create a little code that pushes the data in this txt file to exell on a daily basis. Do you know of any code that could do this? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes
We are in a trial period with blackberry on the O2 (BT cellnet) network - it's working very well. -Original Message- From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 15:43 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Beware of blackberry. Don't know about the situation in the states, but in Europe the GSM provider must specifically support blackberry (ie. Not any GSM provider with GPRS support). -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 21 November 2002 4:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes http://blackberry.net/products/software/server/index.shtml Best way to go. Less hassle for the users. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pennell, Ronald B. Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 10:33 To: Exchange Discussions Cc: Pennell, Ronald B. Subject: PDA recommendations for access to Exchange 2000 mailboxes Has anyone had any experiences with using PDA's for accessing user mailboxes? Our company is starting to research use of PDA's. So far I have done some research on the BlackBerry site. Any recommendations as to server software for E2K SP2. Any hardware recommendations for the PDA's Thanks in advance Ron Pennell [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts
We have four domains with a complete-trust model. Mailboxes have NT accounts from any of these domains. No problems here...never had any issues sharing calendars. This is exchange 5.5. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 November 2002 18:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts Yes, maybe, especially if it is a mixed NT4.0 domain and AD setup. It will work but certain functions will not work in Outlook, like sharing of calendars can be troublesome. - Original Message - From: Dupler, Craig [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: RE: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts Maybe. -Original Message- From: Erik Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 6:43 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Domain Trusts and Exchange Accounts Hi, If you have two domains and they fully trust each other can an NT account in domain a be mapped to an exchange account in domain b? Regards, Erik L. Vesneski Director - Information Technology www.epicentric.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virus heads up
You need to configure trend e-manager (if you have it) to block it with a rule that detects something in the subject line or message body. This is not a virus, it is more of a confidence trick, although NAV is now detecting the software that installs if you follow the link. As usual, this is causing much confusion amongst users... -Original Message- From: Young, Phil [mailto:phil.young;wcom.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Hi, Has anyone successfully cleaned this virus using Trend Scanmail. We are running Trend 3.52 in AVAPI mode with pattern 382 and I am yet to see it successfully clean the virus. Are there any specific settings I should set in Scanmail? Thanks in advance. Phil -Original Message- From: Darcy Adams [mailto:Darcy.Adams;gettyimages.com] Sent: 11 November 2002 14:48 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus heads up Well, our Help Desk staff has proven that it *is* possible to ignore me. But bad things tend to happen every time they do. Like users infecting themselves with a new virus. Darcy -Original Message- From: William Lefkovics, WLKMMAS [mailto:william;techsanctuary.org] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:08 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus heads up I don't believe you. You are impossible to ignore. I think these are also associated... www.cool-downloads.com www.cool-downloads.net www.friend-greetings.com www.friend-greeting.com www.friend-greetings.net www.friend-greeting.net www.friend-cards.net William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bounce-exchange-104116;ls.swynk.com] On Behalf Of Darcy Adams Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:24 AM To: Exchange Discussions I'm still going to forward this to our Help Desk. I warned them, and our security and network teams, about it when it first came around. A few days later our Security team sent out a notice that it had made it in and infected some desktops. HELLOOO!! Desktop support - I SENT YOU the FRIGGIN NOTICE days ago. Apparently they ignored the warning. Darcy -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:roger.seielstad;inovis.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 9:09 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus heads up That's not *technically* a virus, but its been around for close to a month now. It says in the EULA-that-noone-ever-reads that it will send messages to all your contacts. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:nate.couch;eds.com] Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 11:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Virus heads up Just to let you all know one of our customer got hit with the Friend-Greeting virus a little bit ago. From what I have learned Trend is the only one talking about this now and are calling it FRIENDGRT.B. The actions we are taking are blocking the following domain at the firewall http://www.Friend-Greetings.com Hope this helps. Cheers. Nate Couch EDS Messaging _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === This email and its contents are confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not disclose or use the information within this email or its attachments. If you have received this email in error, please delete it immediately. Thank you. === _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:leave-exchange;ls.swynk.com Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: viewer of PST
You don't have to import it, just use file/open in outlook -Original Message- From: Khoi Nguyen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 October 2002 15:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: viewer of PST Sensitivity: Private Hi exchangers, Does anyone know of a utility that will allow a user to view their pst off line without importing it into your current mailbox to see old messages. If there is none, can anyone suggest the best practice to perform this function? TIA -- KN _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IS 70GB and growing....
Yes I have a 2.2gb user. I tried to set a 2.3gb limit to stop it getting any worse, but exchange 5.5 seems to only let me set up to about 2.1gb - is this normal behaviour? -Original Message- From: Andrea Coppini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 October 2002 09:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing About 60% of our users have mailboxes over 200Mb. 1 beats the rest downright... His mailbox size is 2.6Gb. -Original Message- From: Sakti Chakravarty (Senteq) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 October 2002 7:36 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing 140MB is big, but it's not uncommon to see mailboxes greater than 1GB in size. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 8 October 2002 1:38 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IS 70GB and growing Do you think 140MB mailbox is big?!?! The exchange server is 3 years old - Original Message - From: Hansen, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 6:08 PM Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing I'd be more tempted to look at things like storage limits. 500 users and 70gig, seriously who needs to save that much email? Your email shouldn't be a file server. -Original Message- From: Exchange List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 3:12 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing Would be tempted to look at things like restore time SLA, backup window time etc. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 October 2002 09:36 Posted To: Exchange List Conversation: IS 70GB and growing Subject: Re: IS 70GB and growing I am reading all this thread, and still can't find which part made you so angry. How should the question be asked, so you would be so nice, to provide some information.. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 5:25 AM Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing Heaven help him. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Technical Consultant hp Services There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mark Hanji Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 1:00 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: IS 70GB and growing Hi. It may be some one you know. - Original Message - From: Ed Crowley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:39 PM Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing Heaven help the consultant Hanji hires. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Great Cthulhu Jones Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:01 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing I vote Hanji hires a consultant to fix the problem. He's not showing much improvement... (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Couch, Nate Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 6:55 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing I vote for two servers. Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Great Cthulhu Jones Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 20:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing Who cares about it, though? If you need two servers, you need two servers. If not, buy more hard drives. (:= -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sakti Chakravarty (Senteq) Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 6:44 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: IS 70GB and growing If I recall correctly, using the Move Mailbox utility retains SIS. -Original Message- From: Mark Hanji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 30 September 2002 6:29 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IS 70GB and growing Hi guys. I have an exchange 5.5 on a strong machine. The IS is over 73GB (total of 500 users). I am thinking whether it is the right move to split this box into two servers. The main problem is that I will loose SIS... On the other hand, I will have two smaller databases. I am sure some of
dead public folders
Hi guys, Our chicago office turned off an exchange server without telling us - this was the only server in their site. They moved the mailboxes elsewhere and trashed the server. We removed the site connector to clean up the directory but their public folders are still showing in our hierarchy. I can't seem to delete these folders - if I click on them I get the 'unable to display folder' error and if I try to delete them I get 'outlook cannot delete this foder, you do not have appropriate permissions etc'. Any idea how I can get rid of these dead folders? Thanks Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: dead public folders
Thanks for that, but it doesn't seem to work. The folders don't appear in the 'Instances' window even if I run the DS/IS consistency adjuster. Damn, I hope I'm not stuck with these folders! -Original Message- From: Drewery, Anthony [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 July 2002 14:45 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: dead public folders I've experienced a similar problem in the past due. Q152433 should help you. Ant. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 July 2002 14:37 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: dead public folders Hi guys, Our chicago office turned off an exchange server without telling us - this was the only server in their site. They moved the mailboxes elsewhere and trashed the server. We removed the site connector to clean up the directory but their public folders are still showing in our hierarchy. I can't seem to delete these folders - if I click on them I get the 'unable to display folder' error and if I try to delete them I get 'outlook cannot delete this foder, you do not have appropriate permissions etc'. Any idea how I can get rid of these dead folders? Thanks Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This communication represents the originator's personal views and opinions, which do not necessarily reflect those of Canada Maritime. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the email to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error, and that any use, dissemination, forward, printing, or copying of this email is strictly prohibited. If you received this email in error, please immediately notify the Canmar/Cast Help Desk on +44 (0) 1293 582 800 _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Do you people know USA qualified for next phase of cup? -Original Message- From: Ali Wilkes (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 June 2002 15:04 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday The Wings won last night Stanley is home in Detroit Now I can get sleep. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Distribution List Owner Can't Modify
Hi all, I have a guy here who is owner of a load of distribution lists. He reported to me today that he can no longer modify the list memberships via outlook. I found I could fix the problem by going into the distribution list properties (where he is showing as owner) and re-selecting him as the owner. The only thing I can think of that we've changed recently is putting in two-way trusts between our domains (he is in a different domain to the exchange server). I can't see how this would affect it. Any ideas what's happening? Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify
I knew it. I was face to face with an actual gremlin in planet Hollywood last week. That'll teach me to mock him. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 June 2002 15:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify Gremlins. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify Hi all, I have a guy here who is owner of a load of distribution lists. He reported to me today that he can no longer modify the list memberships via outlook. I found I could fix the problem by going into the distribution list properties (where he is showing as owner) and re-selecting him as the owner. The only thing I can think of that we've changed recently is putting in two-way trusts between our domains (he is in a different domain to the exchange server). I can't see how this would affect it. Any ideas what's happening? Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify
I feel I must point out that I had never been to Planet Hollywood in my life until last week. The thing was that England were playing their opening game of the world cup, and we got invited down to watch it by a friend who works there. Free beers and breakfast, prime position in front of the big screen, gremlin in glass case... Can't be wrong. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 June 2002 16:53 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify In Planet Hollywood? Are you sure it wasn't a cockroach? Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 7:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify I knew it. I was face to face with an actual gremlin in planet Hollywood last week. That'll teach me to mock him. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 June 2002 15:03 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify Gremlins. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:39 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Distribution List Owner Can't Modify Hi all, I have a guy here who is owner of a load of distribution lists. He reported to me today that he can no longer modify the list memberships via outlook. I found I could fix the problem by going into the distribution list properties (where he is showing as owner) and re-selecting him as the owner. The only thing I can think of that we've changed recently is putting in two-way trusts between our domains (he is in a different domain to the exchange server). I can't see how this would affect it. Any ideas what's happening? Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 97 Notification
Yes we can claim your spelling is wrong. It's our language and you lot don't talk it right or spell proper. Come on, you even think we're playing the 'soccer' world cup right now. dan. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:57 AM To: 'Exchange Discussions' Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification Because here was no standardized spelling until after the settlement of the Americas, and because standardization developed separately, neither side of the pond can claim their spelling is correct or the other side's is wrong. It's just different. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultan hp Services Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ward, Stuart Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification Surely 'authorize' is the variant and the true English spelling is 'authorise' Stu -Original Message- From: Setmajer, Jerzy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification Boy this list is educational. Now I know that authorise is a British variant of AUTHORIZE. Very cool. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 8:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification Sure. What's your budget? -Original Message- From: Darren Ash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 3:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Outlook 97 Notification I have users that look at 2 mailboxes. They have ol set up to display a message when new mail arrives however, this does not work on the secondary mailbox ??? I guess this is the way it is supposed to work but does anyone know how to make it work on both NT4 Sp6a, Ex 5.5 SP4, OL97 Coolchain LtdCoolchain Ltd London Road Henley Road Teynham Paddock Wood Kent Kent ME9 9PR TN12 6DN Tel: 01795 523200Tel: 01892 831400 Fax: 01795 523241Fax: 01892 831451 All business is conducted in accordance with the company's terms and conditions, a copy of which is available on request. For the avoidance of doubt, all orders initiated by ourselves must be signed by an authorised signatory of this company. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Outlook 97 Notification
Actually, it's 'extra time', and football. -Original Message- From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 05 June 2002 05:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Outlook 97 Notification I love soccer. Especially when it's 0-0 in double overtime - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: RE: Outlook 97 Notification Yes we can claim your spelling is wrong. It's our language and you lot don't talk it right or spell proper. Come on, you even think we're playing the 'soccer' world cup right now. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
trend question
Hi all, I'm running trend scanmail/emanager and I can't figure out how to block messages completely - i.e. if I set up a rule to block messages with the subject 'test', when I send a message with the subject 'test' from hotmail I still get a message in the recipient's inbox with subject 'test' and body 'The original message content contained a virus or was blocked due to blocking rules and has been removed.' This is not what I want! I want it to completely block the message so it doesn't even arrive at the inbox - is this possible? Can't seem to see any way of setting this up... Cheers Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: trend question
I have it set to delete - still the messages get through... -Original Message- From: Kulwinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 May 2002 15:18 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: trend question You will have to set the Action to delete. when setting the policy up. THis is on teh same page when you setup the Anti Span or Content filter. Hi all, I'm running trend scanmail/emanager and I can't figure out how to block messages completely - i.e. if I set up a rule to block messages with the subject 'test', when I send a message with the subject 'test' from hotmail I still get a message in the recipient's inbox with subject 'test' and body 'The original message content contained a virus or was blocked due to blocking rules and has been removed.' This is not what I want! I want it to completely block the message so it doesn't even arrive at the inbox - is this possible? Can't seem to see any way of setting this up... Cheers Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: trend question
My scanmail only has 'Outbound Message Filter' in the 'realtime scan options' which is not checked - these are inbound messages though.. -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Kain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 31 May 2002 15:25 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: trend question On 5/31/02 9:08 AM, Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm running trend scanmail/emanager and I can't figure out how to block messages completely - i.e. if I set up a rule to block messages with the subject 'test', when I send a message with the subject 'test' from hotmail I still get a message in the recipient's inbox with subject 'test' and body 'The original message content contained a virus or was blocked due to blocking rules and has been removed.' In the ScanMail Management Console (not the e-manager console), do you have the options for Active Message Filter (both inbound and outbound) checked? These are in the lower-right corner of the main configuration pane of the console. Jeff _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Virus Attack ??
Send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the urgent flag. This triggers an immediate site visit from The Queen of England, who has recently completed her MCSE (some people say she used braindumps). -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 May 2002 16:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? True.. How do you change the service account password again? -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? Actually, since this list is free, and anyone can come here and ask a question, I don't think anyone has a right to say, Don't talk to me that way. Don't get me wrong, I don't like it much either when Mr. Ely gets his panties in a wad and goes hog out on me, but then I also don't like it when someone signs onto the list and asks, How can I change the admin account password?, which has been asked at least 500 times and the answer is out there to be found. I have a very good friend whom I was managing and he had this really bad habit of always asking me How big can a DIM field be? (Extra credit if you know a. What language we are talking about, b. What the answer is) I used to just spout the answer off without thinking about it, then I decided one day to make him look it up. He got quite upset with me, and said, You know, why don't you just tell me? To which I replied, Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime. While I do my best to be nice, that doesn't mean I expect others to. As a matter of fact, saying that they should is really placing my standards of conduct upon them, something I don't have the right to do, and neither do you. While if we all lived in a perfect world, people would never get upset and say cross things, this isn't the perfect world, and some people, and yes even those that have the greatest knowledge of all, sometimes just say mean things, my heartfelt suggestion is either learn to deal with it, or unsubscribe from the list. Just my opinion, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 X194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:06 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? Being nice has nothing to do with it. Being big assholes (not specifically anybody) has everything to do with it. -Original Message- From: Bob Sadler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 11:03 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? When signing up for this list, I think an email should be sent first to the person wishing to join that states, If you haven't done your homework, don't expect to be treated with kid gloves!. Hell, I remember my first question on this list, I was told succinctly by Ed Crowley to read the FAQ, check the knowledgebase, and if I still had questions, then ask them, BUT UNDER NO MEANS SHOULD I EVER ASK SUCH A STUPID QUESTION AGAIN WITHOUT FIRST TRYING TO FIND THE ANSWER. The long and the short of it is this, (Paraphrashing ED), if you want to be treated nice, call PSS. If you want the answers, first try and find out the information on your own, read the FAQ, search the archives, look into technet, then and only then, ask your question here. I guess what I'm saying, is life is hard, and sometimes ppl get a bit tired of answering questions that are quite easily answered if you only do the research first. Just my opinion, Bob Sadler City of Leawood, KS, USA Internet/WAN Specialist 913-339-6700 X194 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Orr, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? This has NEVER been the Be Kind to the Clueless List. ALL members are expected to do some research before asking a question, and are expected to actually CONTRIBUTE to the list when their area of expertise is crossed. If you have no area of expertise, you need to find the Care Bear List. Once upon a time, this list had several self-appointed enforcers that kept it that way. As it happened, they were also amongst the most eloquent, best-informed contributors. Now that they've gone on to greener pastures, we read more and more questions like What happens if I pull the plug out of the back of the server? Is that bad? Perhaps we should put a fund together and pay CJ to come back every few days Dale L. Orr Network Administrator DoD Polygraph Institute -Original Message- From: Lanee Hicks [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:04 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Virus Attack ?? You are so kind to people. I hope they are just as kind to you in return! Lanee Hicks, MCSE, CNE -Original Message- From: [EMAIL
RE: completely OT
I have a large movie collection in a PST file, which I access across the network. -Original Message- From: Julian Stone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 16:01 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: completely OT How does this affect Exchange ?? Yours, Julian Stone -Original Message- From: Kim Schotanus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 15:58 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: completely OT Hi guys, apparently there is a way to download films off the net and burn them on a CD to be played in a DVD player? Any tips welcome. K/ _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delegating Admin Duties
Hi guys, We have a few sites around the country but they all access a central exchange server here at head office. I'm thinking about delegating admin duties (i.e. creating new mailboxes) to the technical guys at each site. Is there any best practice here? I know I could create separate recipients containers and assign appropriate permissions, but that would mess up the GAL. I heard that's not good practice anyway? I suppose I could give them permissions on the whole recipients container, but then they might mess up mailboxes that aren't for users on their site. Any thoughts? Cheers Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Delegating Admin Duties
Sorry, 5.5 sp4. -Original Message- From: Matt Monteleone-Haught [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 11:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Delegating Admin Duties What version of Exchange? - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Delegating Admin Duties Hi guys, We have a few sites around the country but they all access a central exchange server here at head office. I'm thinking about delegating admin duties (i.e. creating new mailboxes) to the technical guys at each site. Is there any best practice here? I know I could create separate recipients containers and assign appropriate permissions, but that would mess up the GAL. I heard that's not good practice anyway? I suppose I could give them permissions on the whole recipients container, but then they might mess up mailboxes that aren't for users on their site. Any thoughts? Cheers Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Delegating Admin Duties
Thanks matt, I'm thinking I might give the remote admins just the 'add child' right so they can create new accounts but not mess up existing ones. Dan. -Original Message- From: Matt Monteleone-Haught [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 12:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Delegating Admin Duties Daniel, You might be able to set some granularity by using custom roles and making sure you only give the rights that are necessary. You might want to try Q261092 and Q168753 for a good jumping off point. I believe the answer will vary depending on what exactly you want the 'remote' admins to do. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: RE: Delegating Admin Duties Sorry, 5.5 sp4. -Original Message- From: Matt Monteleone-Haught [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 11:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Delegating Admin Duties What version of Exchange? - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Delegating Admin Duties Hi guys, We have a few sites around the country but they all access a central exchange server here at head office. I'm thinking about delegating admin duties (i.e. creating new mailboxes) to the technical guys at each site. Is there any best practice here? I know I could create separate recipients containers and assign appropriate permissions, but that would mess up the GAL. I heard that's not good practice anyway? I suppose I could give them permissions on the whole recipients container, but then they might mess up mailboxes that aren't for users on their site. Any thoughts? Cheers Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Delegating Admin Duties
Yep, works a treat. I've tested on a PC here - can run exchange admin, add accounts but not modify or delete existing ones. Yes, they will create accounts in their own NT domains (each site has a domain and trusts are in place) and assign those to the mailboxes. Since each admin is in a separate domain I can't put them in a group, but it's a nice idea! Dan. -Original Message- From: Matt Monteleone-Haught [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 12:38 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Delegating Admin Duties If all you want them to do is create new mailboxes. That should do the trick. Just make sure you don't give them Modify Permissions attributes. Also make sure you are only giving this right on the recipients container. To make this a little easier, create a domain global group for the remote admins. Add only that group and assign permissions to it. That way when you get a new 'remote' admin or one leaves you don't have to go dink around in Exchange to modify permissions. Just modify the group. They do have rights to create new NT accounts, right? -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 7:16 AM Subject: RE: Delegating Admin Duties Thanks matt, I'm thinking I might give the remote admins just the 'add child' right so they can create new accounts but not mess up existing ones. Dan. -Original Message- From: Matt Monteleone-Haught [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 12:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Delegating Admin Duties Daniel, You might be able to set some granularity by using custom roles and making sure you only give the rights that are necessary. You might want to try Q261092 and Q168753 for a good jumping off point. I believe the answer will vary depending on what exactly you want the 'remote' admins to do. -- Matthew Exchange Disaster Recovery, Live it, Learn It, Love It, Get yours today! http://www.microsoft.com/TechNet/exchange/technote/edrv3p1.asp Besides the technical limitations on the PST (remember the P stands for Personal, that means you're responsible not the mail admin)... Jim Schwartz 8-16-01 - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:44 AM Subject: RE: Delegating Admin Duties Sorry, 5.5 sp4. -Original Message- From: Matt Monteleone-Haught [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 11:47 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: Delegating Admin Duties What version of Exchange? - Original Message - From: Atkinson, Daniel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:25 AM Subject: Delegating Admin Duties Hi guys, We have a few sites around the country but they all access a central exchange server here at head office. I'm thinking about delegating admin duties (i.e. creating new mailboxes) to the technical guys at each site. Is there any best practice here? I know I could create separate recipients containers and assign appropriate permissions, but that would mess up the GAL. I heard that's not good practice anyway? I suppose I could give them permissions on the whole recipients container, but then they might mess up mailboxes that aren't for users on their site. Any thoughts? Cheers Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: Switch to Online
Yeah, the way outlook handles online/offline is rubbish, especially what happens if the connection to the server is lost. -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 23 April 2002 16:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Switch to Online In current versions? No. -Original Message- From: Davis,Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 10:32 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Switch to Online If you start Outlook (2000 or 2002) in the Work offline mode, and the network connection or Exchange server becomes available, is there a way to switch the mode that Outlook is currently in without exiting and restarting Outlook? Thanks _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OWA Question
Could this be the cached directory thing that also delays a change in primary NT Account? http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q179065 dan -Original Message- From: Romeo, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 April 2002 18:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OWA Question The delay, accourding to a Microsoft Tech I spoke with, can be up to 2 hours. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:50 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OWA Question Thanks, Andy. It's strange...all the existing users can access OWA without a problem. Only new accounts can't. I've reviewed everything in the q article(s) but no help. I'm stumped. Bill Lambert Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 10:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: OWA Question Q173470 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 4:14 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OWA Question NT4 domain, Exchange 5.5 I've just created a new user and new mailbox for that user within the last 15 minutes. In OWA, however, I get the message OWA was unable get to your inbox. Is this because I need to wait and if so, why the delay? TIA. Bill Lambert Network Consultant Endoxy Healthcare 847-941-9206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OWA
Give them the user rights to log on locally on the owa box. -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 April 2002 15:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: OWA Hello, I created two new users and both cannot access their mailbox on OWA. When I try to log in with their correct info I get unable to get you inbox. Everyone elses works in my company it just doesnt work for the two new profiles that i set up. I have had this problem in the past but forgot how to fix it. Thanks Rich _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Addresses picked from GAL fail...
Hi guys, We have an exchange org with 2 sites. If a user in the UK site picks an address of a user in the US site from the GAL, delivery fails with an NDR like this... The following recipient(s) could not be reached: IMCEAEX-_O=SEVEN+20WORLDWIDE+2C+20INC+2E_OU=MIDWEST_cn=RECIPIENTS_cn=GEORGE+ [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 28/03/2002 12:17 The recipient name is not recognized If the user types the mailbox alias into the To: line instead of picking from the GAL, it works fine... Any ideas? Dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PC Support
Yeah, well, how many technical experts are going to work as a first-line phone jockey? I sense that through any of the brands the first level support people are just there to go through the very basic troubleshooting and try to make you believe that there is nothing really wrong with your pc. And I have had at least one tech tell me that cheaper components are going into the computers. It gets really frustrating wasting so much time on the phone that is just wasting your time. Bill Kuhl _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Host Unreachable
Forget the ping, it may well be discarded by a firewall. Telnet to the remote mailserver on port 25 by typing this into the command line... telnet mail.spectra.ca 25 if that fails try telnet 24.85.12.237 25 if that works, look at your DNS. If it fails, phone your ISP. Dan. -Original Message- From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 26 March 2002 16:29 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Host Unreachable I'm not at the site where I can ping from the Exchange server but I will give that a shot this afternoon. I have been having some intermitant DNS issues so that must be it. Thanks to all that replied. Scott. I can get there from here. See if you can telnet to their mail server (mail.spectra.ca) FROM the exchange server. If you cant, you probably have some DNS issues. -Original Message- From: Scott Force [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2002 7:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Host Unreachable Good Morning, I'm running Exchange 5.5/4 (NT4.0/6a). I'm having problems sending e-mail to a specific domain, spectra.ca or spectraesolutions.com. Any e-mail to those domains sits in my IMS outbound queue. They can send to me but when I reply I run into the same problem. I've contacted the admin of that domain and he told me they are running Exchange 2000 and they are not requiring reverse DNS lookup. Any thoughts? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: E2k Clustering
My production server is a high-spec DELL box with plenty of redundancy built in. I have an identical recovery server which when not needed for recovery purposes runs slave DNS, secondary WINS, monitoring for the production server etc. We have a SAN for the directory and store data, with lots of redundancy built-in. In the event of some motherboard failure etc I can copy a disk image of the system drive onto the recovery server so that it is exactly the same as the production server (takes about 5 mins) and then point this at the SAN for data. It's not as fast as a cluster failover but we had so many problems with that it was unreal. Since going back to standalone servers I have had 100% uptime, and sleep easy at night. Dan -Original Message- From: Dennis Depp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 March 2002 14:13 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Re: E2k Clustering Missy, If you would not recommend clustering, what do you recommend for high availablility environments? Dennis Depp At 11:17 AM 3/13/2002 -0500, missy koslosky wrote: While I'm really not into arguing the point, while some people at Compaq and/or MS might recommend A/A over A/P, not everyone would. And yes, I'm one of the ones at Compaq who would recommend A/P if I had a client that was dead set on clustering. But I'd try to talk them out of clustering if at all possible. Missy - Original Message - From: Sabo, Eric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 11:00 AM Subject: RE: E2k Clustering I talked to compaq/microsoft today, I am confident in our situation here that an active/active is the right choice for us. Currently we have the following: Server no. 1 - Quad Pentium Pro 200 MHZ (very old chipset technology) - 1 MEG cache on each processor - 2 GB RAM: (800 mailboxes/heavy users) The most I ever saw the processor level was at 50% usage, most of the time it is around 10%-20% usage Server no. 2 - dual Pentium III 500 MHZ Xeon Processor - 2 Meg cache on each processor - 2 GB RAM (6000 mailboxes/light users)- The most I ever saw these processors was at 35%, most of the time it is around 5%-10% We are going to the following: Two servers running w2k adv sp2 e2k sp2 - Quad Pentium III Xeon 700 MHZ - 2 MB cache of each processor- 3 GB physical RAM using a Storageworks San solution. I would say these machines should run around 5-10% CPU usage. Eric Sabo NT Administrator Computing Services Center California University of Pennsylvania -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:59 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2k Clustering Use Active/Passive clusters when possible to increase scalability and reduce failover times. Active/Active clusters are only supported in 2-node configurations in which each node has a maximum of 40 percent loading and 1900 simultaneous users. Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server Service Pack 2 Deployment Guide In short, there are NO issues when running in Active/Passive, but when running in Active/Active you have a high chance of a failover failing because of memory fragmentation. Active/Passive is going to provide you with high reliability failover. Active/Active is going to cause grief. Let me turn the tables, why do you think that Active/Active is better than Active/Passive? Ed -Original Message- From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 9:38 AM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: E2k Clustering Subject: RE: E2k Clustering Hi there I was looking over the white paper, and according to Microsoft, both active/passive and active/active are recommended in the below listed whitepaper. Do you have access to information that suggests otherwise?? Thanks Russell -Original Message- From: Woodrick, Ed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:51 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2k Clustering Make it Active/Passive as recommended and it's a moot point. -Original Message- From: Sabo, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 5:42 PM Posted To: Microsoft Exchange Conversation: E2k Clustering Subject: RE: E2k Clustering When they talk about concurrent connections, does microsoft mean if one users is using a mapi client that would mean 3 connections there for just one user. Is this correct? Eric Sabo NT Administrator Computing Services Center California University of Pennsylvania -Original Message- From: Etts, Russell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:20 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: E2k Clustering Hi there According to the MS whitepaper, here are the limits for active / active: After you deploy your cluster, make sure you do the following: Limit the number of concurrent connection (users) per node to a maximum of 1,900, and proactively monitor the cluster to insure that the CPU does not
RE: E2k Clustering
Yowza. Keep these posts coming. They want to cluster here and I am fighting the good fight with these little snippets! Well, the arguments are simple... 1. you have to do active/passive clustering, so you'll always have one expensive server doing absolutely nothing. What a waste! 2. All you're protecting from is serious hardware failure, like the motherboard blowing up. How often does that happen? You can build redundancy in pretty much everywhere else on the server without clustering. Anyway, in my experience, Exchange crashes are generally related to the databases and a cluster is no help in that situation because all nodes share the same data. 3. The cluster service seems to do some strange things sometimes. During our adventures into clustering, we had instances of the cluster simply forgetting it's IP address or netbios name, total halt. 4. Failover isn't that great anyway. During tests we found that some of our outlook clients would simply freeze and not pick up the new server immediately - sometimes a reboot would be needed. Some macintosh clients would completely lock up and the retouch guy goes beserk because he's lost his quark doc. 5. Clustering requires win2k advanced server, so it will cost more to license. 6. Having a good recovery server and DR plan means you can run loads of good stuff on the recovery box when not in use for recovery, plus you can use it for restoring mailboxes that your junior admin deleted. I'm sure there's more... dan _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Online backup of Exchange 5.5 with Veritas BE 8.5
He doesnt need the Exchange Agent to do an online Exchange-aware backup of the store. Really, how? I think the exchange options are greyed out in our backup exec until you install the agent. Dan _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
haiku friday
review yesterday got a company car now plus salary raise :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: haiku friday
thanks for kind words guys sorry no more jobs here now maybe one day though! -Original Message- From: Randal, Phil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 February 2002 15:22 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: haiku friday I have to ask you if there are any more jobs with cars where you work Lucky devil! Phil - Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 08 February 2002 15:07 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: haiku friday review yesterday got a company car now plus salary raise :) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Automatically printing eMAILs
in england, the 'home secretary' is perhaps the most powerful person in the country, moreso than the prime minister in many ways. a secretary is also a kind of bookcase, i believe. That sounds like nonsense. Colin Powell doesn't seem to be terribly offended to be called that. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Blunt, James H (Jim) Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:27 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Automatically printing eMAILs That, and the fact that there are a lot more males in the Personal Assistant field than there used to be and they took offense at being called a secretary...even though that's really what they are. To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The day after superbowl
haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: The day after superbowl
yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp
RE: The day after superbowl
ha, i knew that would come back. ok, replace 'sport' with 'team sport' -Original Message- From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:42 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl did everyone stop playing golf suddenly? -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com
RE: The day after superbowl
popular misconception. i believe it was named 'world series' after the sponsors, not the fact that it's a world league. -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:40 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl A man convinced against his will, Is of the same opinion still. You're all right and you're all wrong. However, I still don't understand the world series baseball, or whatever it's called, that only has 1 country playing it (or is it 2 with Canada?) :-) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kishore Vara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 February 2002 15:30 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: The day after superbowl Subject: RE: The day after superbowl You might change your mind if you watch Manchester United play.. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http
RE: The day after superbowl
this is wierd...the last time i played golf, my brother broke one of his clubs playing a shot from the rough, freaked out and chucked it in a lake! The last time I played golf, my brother in law started a fight with his clubs after they caused him to play completely crap. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:50 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl The last time I played golf, my brother started a fight on one of the fairways. It was a most hilarious, and alcohol-free, afternoon experience! Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Joel Musheno [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 February 2002 15:48 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: The day after superbowl Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Golf, like skiing, requires mass quantities of alcohol to become an enjoyable experience. -Original Message- From: Allan Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:42 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl did everyone stop playing golf suddenly? -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 10:16 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl yes, that's why it's the most popular sport in the world. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: The day after superbowl
actually, we very much understand baseball. it's almost identical to a traditional english sport called 'rounders' - except this is mainly played in school by girls. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 16:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl It's pretty popular in Latin America, Japan and Taiwan as well. Nobody expects you to understand it any more than we understand Cricket. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Neil Hobson Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl A man convinced against his will, Is of the same opinion still. You're all right and you're all wrong. However, I still don't understand the world series baseball, or whatever it's called, that only has 1 country playing it (or is it 2 with Canada?) :-) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kishore Vara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 February 2002 15:30 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: The day after superbowl Subject: RE: The day after superbowl You might change your mind if you watch Manchester United play.. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto
RE: The day after superbowl
i have, curling rules. i always wanted to have a go at the sweeping...they go mental with those little brooms... I haven't seen a good curling match in years =) -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:57 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl actually, we very much understand baseball. it's almost identical to a traditional english sport called 'rounders' - except this is mainly played in school by girls. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 16:32 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl It's pretty popular in Latin America, Japan and Taiwan as well. Nobody expects you to understand it any more than we understand Cricket. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Neil Hobson Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:40 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl A man convinced against his will, Is of the same opinion still. You're all right and you're all wrong. However, I still don't understand the world series baseball, or whatever it's called, that only has 1 country playing it (or is it 2 with Canada?) :-) Neil Hobson Silversands http://www.silversands.co.uk Microsoft Gold Certified Partner For Enterprise Systems For Collaborative Solutions -Original Message- From: Kishore Vara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 04 February 2002 15:30 Posted To: Exchange Mailing List Conversation: The day after superbowl Subject: RE: The day after superbowl You might change your mind if you watch Manchester United play.. -Original Message- From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 15:24 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Unfortunately football/soccer is also boring. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 8:07 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl haha, correction - the only 'real football' game worth watching is the one that actually _is_ football, you know, the one based around using your feet to kick the ball... seriously, i do really like 'american football', but it's a bit stop-start and there are way too many stats and ad-breaks. The only real football game worth watching any more is Army-Navy. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:48 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Patriots (finally a sports team to celebrate in boston) :) -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:54 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl Who won? John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 My toys! My toys! I can't do this job without my toys! -Original Message- From: Joyce, Louis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 9:50 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: The day after superbowl No change there then. Regards Mr Louis Joyce Network Support Analyst Exchange Administrator BT Ignite eSolutions -Original Message- From: Tener, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 04 February 2002 14:20 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: The day after superbowl Just sitting here starring at the computer screen. Feels like some took my Brain out of my head and just poured Budweiser on in all night. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: clustering wireless
exchange + mscs = sleep deprivation look forward to cluster services failing for no apparent reason, exchange services not responding properly to actions in cluster administrator, dubious failover etc etc in 4 months with the cluster we had plenty of downtime during working hours, terrible. Since trashing the cluster and using the two servers as seperate exchange servers in the same site, we've had no downtime, and both servers are busy delivering mail instead of one just sitting there waiting to not work when called upon. while i'm on the subject, does anyone know the correct way to get exchange databases (particularly the directory i think) to forget that they are part of a clustered exchange server? . The problem is that the IMS won't install on a clean, non-clustered exchange server with restored databases from a clustered exchange server. It throws an error saying the cluster services aren't installed, so there must be something in the databases that tells exchange it should be on a cluster. i couldn't figure it out, so ended up migrating users to another server using ed's server move method. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Public Folders and OST
right click the folder under your favourites, bring up properties, go to synchronization tab, configure... -Original Message- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 15:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folders and OST SO iset for Offline use in the OST Stuff ( where I would set other Custom made folders) ? Joshua Morgan PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folders and OST No, there's always the potential for 2 way replication based on permissions to the folder. Synchronization is achieved by adding the said PF to the PF 'favorites' and then marking the folders as available for offline use. HTH, Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Public Folders and OST Can 'Public Folders' be allowed to sync to an offline copy ? This would always be one way: down to a laptop Joshua Morgan PROFITLAB Network Engineer PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 [EMAIL PROTECTED] One is glad to be of service --Robin Williams ( Millennium Man)-- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Public Folders and OST
like a few things in exchange/outlook, you have to do it one at a time (yaaawn zz) -Original Message- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 15:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folders and OST Hopefully last question: What if the Public folder has subfolders? 1. How do you get them in the favorites? 2. do you have to set offline for each subfolder? Joshua Morgan PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:46 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folders and OST right click the folder under your favourites, bring up properties, go to synchronization tab, configure... -Original Message- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 17 January 2002 15:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folders and OST SO iset for Offline use in the OST Stuff ( where I would set other Custom made folders) ? Joshua Morgan PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 10:33 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Public Folders and OST No, there's always the potential for 2 way replication based on permissions to the folder. Synchronization is achieved by adding the said PF to the PF 'favorites' and then marking the folders as available for offline use. HTH, Chris -- Chris Scharff Senior Sales Engineer MessageOne If you can't measure, you can't manage! -Original Message- From: Morgan, Joshua [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2002 9:34 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Public Folders and OST Can 'Public Folders' be allowed to sync to an offline copy ? This would always be one way: down to a laptop Joshua Morgan PROFITLAB Network Engineer PH: (864) 250-1350 Ext 133 [EMAIL PROTECTED] One is glad to be of service --Robin Williams ( Millennium Man)-- _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: adding exchange
if you mean, 'add an additional exchange server to an existing exchange site', just run the installer on your new hardware and follow the wizard. it takes about five minutes. Does anyone know how to add an additional exchange server too a existing exchange server. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Troublesome IMS
is this essential? i just checked our pix and smtp fixup is enabled - i'm not aware of any problems though... -Original Message- From: Monteleone-Haught Matt - Millville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2002 12:23 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Troublesome IMS Cisco PIX? No SMTP fixup -Original Message- From: Earl, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 6:21 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Troublesome IMS Hello all, Our Exchange server is suffering from a problem where a mail gets delivered, but the mail sticks in the IMS's 'Outbound mail awaiting delivery' queue with '(host unreachable)' next to it. This results in the IMS retrying to redeliver the mail at the set intervals and the somewhat annoyed recipient receiving multiple copies of the mail until it expires. This only happens occasionally - most mail goes out fine. I have noticed that is does happen to one email that gets sent regularly from one of our users to an external mailbox. I have tried using nslookup from the server and can telnet in to port 25 of the other servers without a problem. Our box is set up as follows: NT4, Sp6a, PIII, 3 processors, 1gb mem. Exchange 5.5 sp4 (configured as per Q181420 - 'How to Configure Exchange or other SMTP with Proxy Server') Network Associates GroupShield (Antivirus Server Extension: 4.5.572.171 Server Admin Extension: 4.5.572.128) Network Associates Netshield 4.5.0 (with the recommended Exchange directories excluded from scanning). I also had the Network Associates Message Body Scanning tool installed but thought this might have been contributing to the problem so I removed it a few months ago, but the problem sill continues. Any ideas? Many thanks, Daniel. This e-mail may contain proprietary and confidential information, and is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you are not one of the named recipients, then disclosure, distribution, copying or printing of this e-mail is strictly prohibited and it must be deleted. Additionally you should notify the sender of the distribution error. Heal's will not accept any liability or responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of its contents and attachments. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Exchange 2000 AV Roundup
norton wins? are they mad? symantec are too slow with their updates, hours behind trend during recent outbreaks. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
yes, we did look into archiving products and a couple of them looked really good, but they were really expensive and we couldn't justify the cost following the initial outlay for server hardware and licensing. it's something i'm considering for the future, however. dan. -Original Message- From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 January 2002 21:44 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies You may want to look into Archive software so you don't have to support PST yet your IS is small enough that you don't waste your time waiting when you have to do something with your IS. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:20 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies Yes, storage space is more expensive on the exchange server because it's on a SAN, but that's not the point. We have a 400mb mailbox limit for good reasons. We don't want the information store to grow too large, otherwise restore times get too long and you can't quickly take a copy of the store to another drive to try some eseutil or similar when there are problems. I firmly believe in keeping the store at a manageable, copyable and quickly restorable size. I've recently faced an exchange restore situation with an 80gb information store from an online backup, and we had to wait several hours before we could even begin to work with the inconsistent databases. Not good. So, 'power users' who want 400mb+ have to archive somewhere. OST's don't perform this function according to my understanding, so it has to be PST's. As i said, here in London our guys just leave the PST's on the local hard drive, but our friends in the north choose to keep them on file servers where there's a nightly backup. So, it seems they've shown me a use of PST's on net drives where no viable alternative exists to achieve the same result, namely, to maintain mailbox limits and thus a manageable store while allowing users to archive their data where it will get backed up. is there a better way? dan. Dan, You're right, offline folders wouldn't help alleviate the mailbox size restriction problem.. There's still the question: Is storage space on your file server less expensive than on your Exchange server? If there's a good reason that some users need more than 400 Mb worth of storage space, why make them split things into PST's? PST's on file servers aren't bad per-say, just a waste of time and resources and a potential headache for the admin... Joe Pochedley I like deadlines, cartoonist Scott Adams once said. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies thanks for your comment ed. i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this manner. am i missing something about offline folders? dan. I'm not going to argue with you on your point, but I suggest that offline folders might be more appropriate. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies ok, check this pst scenario: exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store. servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect via 2mbps links. users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst. in london, they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we make sure that they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up nightly. in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network drives. i immediately yelled pst on net drives = bad but their philosophy is that they have plentiful disk space on their file servers and a fast network, so they do this to gain the advantage of backing up the pst's. i can't think of any good reason to persuade them to store the pst's on local hard drives, and i think that's because there isn't one. dan. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
I don't understand your solution Ed. You're saying to keep the IS manageable, get everyone to use OST's and save off attachments? OST's aren't for archiving, they mirror the store - no space saved. Why get users to pull attachments out of exchange to disparate locations on the network? No backup, no owa access, no SIS, no 'audit trail' of their work, big pain in the butt (saving several attachments from a message SUCKS!). Ideally I'd like exchange to do the archiving job for me, but Microsoft likes leaving out useful features to perpetuate the third party add-on market. So, I could have a really good third party archiver that puts old data down to optical disk or something, but that's not going to happen here for now so we'll stick to users archiving to PST's, and if people want to put these on net drives to back them up I really don't see a problem. dan. Add to the OST idea teaching your users how to remove attachments from e-mail they feel they must save. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies thanks for your comment ed. i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this manner. am i missing something about offline folders? dan. I'm not going to argue with you on your point, but I suggest that offline folders might be more appropriate. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies ok, check this pst scenario: exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store. servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect via 2mbps links. users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst. in london, they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we make sure that they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up nightly. in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network drives. i immediately yelled pst on net drives = bad but their philosophy is that they have plentiful disk space on their file servers and a fast network, so they do this to gain the advantage of backing up the pst's. i can't think of any good reason to persuade them to store the pst's on local hard drives, and i think that's because there isn't one. dan. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 06:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies That's fine [1] but keep them off file servers. [1] not really Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cook, David A. Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies I have read all those things about PST=BAD and I have used all of those. I gave my suggestion of do not allow any PSTs and I was told that we have to allow PSTs. The reasons is the best part of the whole thing, they have always been able to use PSTs so we can't take that away from them. Politics is the problem. The more I'm thinking about this the madder it makes me. I've given this recommendation before and then this time I was asked to give the recommendation again so it could be taking to the powers that be. I give my recommendation and I'm told it is not acceptable. I'm pretty much being given the recommandation and being told that it is my recommendation now justify it. I can't justify the wrong decision. So that was my rant that you all could care less about but thank you everyone for the input. Dave Cook Exchange Administrator Kutak Rock, LLP 402-231-8352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
hi jim, you make some good points, but it's a little different here. We're a media company - advertising, prepress, web solutions. A lot of document traffic is PDF's, quark documents - artwork revisions etc. It's very useful for our staff to keep this data in Outlook, because it provides an audit trail without having to do anything. For example, someone recieves a file, amends and sends it back. Their inbox holds a copy of the original, at the date, time etc when it was sent and received. Their sent items records the amended document and when it was returned. This is a simplified example - some of our consultants and mac operators have quite complex communication patterns with many agencies, printers etc and keeping it all together in Outlook is very efficient for them. dan. For the most part you don't need to keep either of the messages. What I've been beating people over the head here is that I don't care that you have an e-mail from 3 years ago stating that we would switch to Fubar Software. If it's part of meeting, then it needs to be in the meeting minutes. If it was part of a project, then it needs to be part of the project documentation. Most users will tell you they are keeping e-mail so they can CYA. Bull biscuits. What are the attachments in the e-mails? Memo's? Documentation? Budgets? All of this should be published to a public folder or an intranet and links sent via e-mail. Go through you're e-mail, check the attachments and see what you have. How much of that information is repeated again and again in your environment? Exchange was never meant to be a storage and retrieval system. Of course all of the about is a behavioral issue, so there is not much we can do about it other than to educate the users. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Slightly OT: PST policies I don't understand your solution Ed. You're saying to keep the IS manageable, get everyone to use OST's and save off attachments? OST's aren't for archiving, they mirror the store - no space saved. Why get users to pull attachments out of exchange to disparate locations on the network? No backup, no owa access, no SIS, no 'audit trail' of their work, big pain in the butt (saving several attachments from a message SUCKS!). Ideally I'd like exchange to do the archiving job for me, but Microsoft likes leaving out useful features to perpetuate the third party add-on market. So, I could have a really good third party archiver that puts old data down to optical disk or something, but that's not going to happen here for now so we'll stick to users archiving to PST's, and if people want to put these on net drives to back them up I really don't see a problem. dan. Add to the OST idea teaching your users how to remove attachments from e-mail they feel they must save. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies thanks for your comment ed. i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this manner. am i missing something about offline folders? dan. I'm not going to argue with you on your point, but I suggest that offline folders might be more appropriate. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies ok, check this pst scenario: exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store. servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect via 2mbps links. users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst. in london, they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we make sure that they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up nightly. in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network drives. i immediately yelled pst on net drives = bad
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
i have looked at version control software and it's a nice idea but it's not quite applicable to what we're doing and also the kind of thing that would never happen - too much change required, training, cost, getting clients and vendors involved - urgh. dan. You should look into version control software for better control. It will also help to cut down on the amount of data you store. One copy vs many copies of a document. It will also help you track who checked out and made changes to docs and allow you to revert back quickly to older versions if needed. If you can tie it back into the Exchange system then you'll be the hero. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:02 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Slightly OT: PST policies hi jim, you make some good points, but it's a little different here. We're a media company - advertising, prepress, web solutions. A lot of document traffic is PDF's, quark documents - artwork revisions etc. It's very useful for our staff to keep this data in Outlook, because it provides an audit trail without having to do anything. For example, someone recieves a file, amends and sends it back. Their inbox holds a copy of the original, at the date, time etc when it was sent and received. Their sent items records the amended document and when it was returned. This is a simplified example - some of our consultants and mac operators have quite complex communication patterns with many agencies, printers etc and keeping it all together in Outlook is very efficient for them. dan. For the most part you don't need to keep either of the messages. What I've been beating people over the head here is that I don't care that you have an e-mail from 3 years ago stating that we would switch to Fubar Software. If it's part of meeting, then it needs to be in the meeting minutes. If it was part of a project, then it needs to be part of the project documentation. Most users will tell you they are keeping e-mail so they can CYA. Bull biscuits. What are the attachments in the e-mails? Memo's? Documentation? Budgets? All of this should be published to a public folder or an intranet and links sent via e-mail. Go through you're e-mail, check the attachments and see what you have. How much of that information is repeated again and again in your environment? Exchange was never meant to be a storage and retrieval system. Of course all of the about is a behavioral issue, so there is not much we can do about it other than to educate the users. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject:RE: Slightly OT: PST policies I don't understand your solution Ed. You're saying to keep the IS manageable, get everyone to use OST's and save off attachments? OST's aren't for archiving, they mirror the store - no space saved. Why get users to pull attachments out of exchange to disparate locations on the network? No backup, no owa access, no SIS, no 'audit trail' of their work, big pain in the butt (saving several attachments from a message SUCKS!). Ideally I'd like exchange to do the archiving job for me, but Microsoft likes leaving out useful features to perpetuate the third party add-on market. So, I could have a really good third party archiver that puts old data down to optical disk or something, but that's not going to happen here for now so we'll stick to users archiving to PST's, and if people want to put these on net drives to back them up I really don't see a problem. dan. Add to the OST idea teaching your users how to remove attachments from e-mail they feel they must save. Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 8:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies thanks for your comment ed. i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this manner. am i missing something about offline folders? dan. I'm
RE: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question)
use Outlook as it's intended - as an exchange client, not imap or pop3. then you get all the collaborative features of exchange (scheduling, public folders, custom forms etc etc). without this you're not really justifying the outlay for exchange. give the laptop users offline folders and set up OWA for when users go to other computers. don't bother with roaming profiles, major headache imo. get a good exchange book and read up - pay particular attention to disaster recovery. dan. -Original Message- From: Michael Anderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 16:30 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Need advice from the Gurus (mobile users question) Hello, Our present scenario is the following: Corporate users, that have a PC on their desk. These users, *may* travel to another location in which they will use a PC sitting on someone else's desk. And about half of these employees will have a laptop - in which they work from home, and travel on the road. Either way, they need to have access to all new mail that comes in, in addition to all their old mail, so they can always have the ability to refer to any old messages. In all of these cases, they need access to their e-mail. Before we installed our Exchange Server, we were using POP3 access exclusively and as we all know, POP3 clients typically pull their mail from the server, when retrieving their messages. Yes, you CAN set things up to leave their mail on the server, but things get funny once in a while, and their mail clients lose track of what messages they have already retrieved from the server, versus which ones they already have on their hard drive. (so sometimes, they have like a 1,000 new messages, when in reality they only have a few new ones) I am sick of dealing with that problem - because it happens way too often. Also, some people accidentally leave their machines on when they go home at night. All just to go home and find out that they have no new messages - because their office PC steals all their e-mail. We just migrated our users from Ipswitch's IMail server, to our new Exchange Box - and the above reasons are why we decided to do this. I am very impressed with Exchange Server - although it is quite complex, I believe it's the answer to all our problems. NOW this is where I need your help. I was thinking about doing the following: Get rid of POP3 altogether, and use IMAP from now on. This way, the laptop users can still take all their mail with them when they travel and still have their old mail they can refer to if they are unable to get online to connect to the server. I believe IMAP allows you to synchronize your local mail with the mail on the server correct? Also, for corporate users with their own laptop OR those that only have access to a public terminal - I was thinking that they could use OWA to handle all of their e-mail issues. And the fact that all mail remains on the server at all times, no matter which method the employees use to get their e-mail, the mail will always be there for them. So bottom line is - IMAP and OWA correct? Are there any other suggestions that anybody can offer to help tackle this problem? Thanks in advance - and sorry for the long post, Mike _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Legal Question.......
tell them you can show them how to access mailboxes if they want you to, but also tell them that there might be legal implications that they should check with their human resources people or the company lawyers. if you're not qualified to offer legal advice, then they should know that, and shouldn't expect you to. dan. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 16:41 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Legal Question... All, I have pretty much been lurking on this list for awhile now. I really respect the Technical opinions that most have offered, Not to mention, the biting sarcasm keeps me in fits of laughter. That Said, I have a client that has asked me a question that I don't Have the legal expertise to answer, and was curious if 1. Any of you have dealt with a similar experience and 2. Could point me to a specific, reference in writing. I was recently approached by my client to get access to one of their employees email. I told them to hold off, I would have to check if I was legally able to do that for them. The equipment is owned by my client. There is Policy in the employee handbook states that Email is for business use only. My client has reason to believe an employee is sending corporate information, (vendor lists and pricing) Offsite to someone outside their company. My client and I both reside in the U.S., in the state of Maryland. Does anyone know what the legal ramifications of viewing/reviewing an employees email are? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: IS Maintenance
mine is set to run early hours when the backup finishes. dan. -Original Message- From: Chad Gibson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 17:19 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: IS Maintenance What is the best practice for IS maintenance?? Do you have it run everyday, twice a week? Also do you switch the view to 15 minute and just add a block to the time you want IS maintenace to start?? _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
thanks for your comment ed. i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this manner. am i missing something about offline folders? dan. I'm not going to argue with you on your point, but I suggest that offline folders might be more appropriate. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies ok, check this pst scenario: exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store. servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect via 2mbps links. users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst. in london, they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we make sure that they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up nightly. in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network drives. i immediately yelled pst on net drives = bad but their philosophy is that they have plentiful disk space on their file servers and a fast network, so they do this to gain the advantage of backing up the pst's. i can't think of any good reason to persuade them to store the pst's on local hard drives, and i think that's because there isn't one. dan. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 06:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies That's fine [1] but keep them off file servers. [1] not really Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cook, David A. Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies I have read all those things about PST=BAD and I have used all of those. I gave my suggestion of do not allow any PSTs and I was told that we have to allow PSTs. The reasons is the best part of the whole thing, they have always been able to use PSTs so we can't take that away from them. Politics is the problem. The more I'm thinking about this the madder it makes me. I've given this recommendation before and then this time I was asked to give the recommendation again so it could be taking to the powers that be. I give my recommendation and I'm told it is not acceptable. I'm pretty much being given the recommandation and being told that it is my recommendation now justify it. I can't justify the wrong decision. So that was my rant that you all could care less about but thank you everyone for the input. Dave Cook Exchange Administrator Kutak Rock, LLP 402-231-8352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
Yes, storage space is more expensive on the exchange server because it's on a SAN, but that's not the point. We have a 400mb mailbox limit for good reasons. We don't want the information store to grow too large, otherwise restore times get too long and you can't quickly take a copy of the store to another drive to try some eseutil or similar when there are problems. I firmly believe in keeping the store at a manageable, copyable and quickly restorable size. I've recently faced an exchange restore situation with an 80gb information store from an online backup, and we had to wait several hours before we could even begin to work with the inconsistent databases. Not good. So, 'power users' who want 400mb+ have to archive somewhere. OST's don't perform this function according to my understanding, so it has to be PST's. As i said, here in London our guys just leave the PST's on the local hard drive, but our friends in the north choose to keep them on file servers where there's a nightly backup. So, it seems they've shown me a use of PST's on net drives where no viable alternative exists to achieve the same result, namely, to maintain mailbox limits and thus a manageable store while allowing users to archive their data where it will get backed up. is there a better way? dan. Dan, You're right, offline folders wouldn't help alleviate the mailbox size restriction problem.. There's still the question: Is storage space on your file server less expensive than on your Exchange server? If there's a good reason that some users need more than 400 Mb worth of storage space, why make them split things into PST's? PST's on file servers aren't bad per-say, just a waste of time and resources and a potential headache for the admin... Joe Pochedley I like deadlines, cartoonist Scott Adams once said. I especially like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:10 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies thanks for your comment ed. i like the idea of offline folders, but surely these would just be mirrors of the users mailbox, or a subset thereof. That's not what's needed here...the users need to archive data so they stay under the store limit and can send mail. I don't see how an offline folder could be used in this manner. am i missing something about offline folders? dan. I'm not going to argue with you on your point, but I suggest that offline folders might be more appropriate. Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP kcCC+I Tech Consultant Compaq Computer Corporation Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Atkinson, Daniel Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 4:52 AM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies ok, check this pst scenario: exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store. servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect via 2mbps links. users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst. in london, they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we make sure that they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up nightly. in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network drives. i immediately yelled pst on net drives = bad but their philosophy is that they have plentiful disk space on their file servers and a fast network, so they do this to gain the advantage of backing up the pst's. i can't think of any good reason to persuade them to store the pst's on local hard drives, and i think that's because there isn't one. dan. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 06:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies That's fine [1] but keep them off file servers. [1] not really Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cook, David A. Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies I have read all those things about PST=BAD and I have used all of those. I gave my suggestion of do not allow any PSTs and I was told that we have to allow PSTs. The reasons is the best part of the whole thing, they have always been able to use PSTs so we can't take that away from them. Politics is the problem. The more I'm thinking about this the madder it makes me. I've given
RE: Slightly OT: PST policies
ok, check this pst scenario: exchange site in uk, 450 users, 400mb mailbox limit, 30gb store. servers are located in london, remote sites in northern cities connect via 2mbps links. users often hit the mailbox limit and have to archive to pst. in london, they just move items to a pst on their local disk, and we make sure that they understand their data is no longer available via OWA or backed up nightly. in the northern cities, the techs have put the PST's onto network drives. i immediately yelled pst on net drives = bad but their philosophy is that they have plentiful disk space on their file servers and a fast network, so they do this to gain the advantage of backing up the pst's. i can't think of any good reason to persuade them to store the pst's on local hard drives, and i think that's because there isn't one. dan. -Original Message- From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 06:11 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies That's fine [1] but keep them off file servers. [1] not really Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP Tech Consultant Compaq Computer There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cook, David A. Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 12:34 PM To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Slightly OT: PST policies I have read all those things about PST=BAD and I have used all of those. I gave my suggestion of do not allow any PSTs and I was told that we have to allow PSTs. The reasons is the best part of the whole thing, they have always been able to use PSTs so we can't take that away from them. Politics is the problem. The more I'm thinking about this the madder it makes me. I've given this recommendation before and then this time I was asked to give the recommendation again so it could be taking to the powers that be. I give my recommendation and I'm told it is not acceptable. I'm pretty much being given the recommandation and being told that it is my recommendation now justify it. I can't justify the wrong decision. So that was my rant that you all could care less about but thank you everyone for the input. Dave Cook Exchange Administrator Kutak Rock, LLP 402-231-8352 [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Working from home rocks VPN and VNC means laundry gets done yes it rocks it's true but you must convince the boss that's what i can't do _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
Get your boss fired Then take control of your life Work from home all day this is sound advice though how best to get boss fired? time to plant some drugs _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS Changes take how long
it does take about 24 hours to get all the way around the world, but you will find zone transfers to regional dns servers can happen almost instantly. for example, if i update my external dns hosted here in london and reload, the new records are correctly served by DNS servers in other parts of the UK before i have time to say 'nslookup'. the trick with DNS is to be prepared, always know in advance when a change needs doing so you can crank the ttl down (typically to 900 seconds) before making the change. better still, NAT your public addresses to a private address space with a firewall and then you can move your internal hosts around much as you like without changing the external DNS. the only time you need to plan ahead is for adding new public addresses. dan. -Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 11 January 2002 17:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: DNS Changes take how long I stand by my contention that it will take on average 1/2[TTL]. If the TTL is 60 seconds, it will seem immediate (but given a statistically significant sample will actually average 30 seconds). Surely you're not saying that every caching DNS server in the world clears its cache at midnight EST? -Original Message- From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: Friday, January 11, 2002 10:43 AM Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List Conversation: DNS Changes take how long Subject: Re: DNS Changes take how long Supposed to happen every 24 hours at midnight EST. Give it 24 hours after that to propogate. - Original Message - From: Tony Hlabse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 9:58 AM Subject: DNS Changes take how long Well we are making the switch from a Eudora email server to a Exchange 2000 setup. The new Zone records will be sent to our ISP Verio. We are hoping all updates to other DNS servers will in place by Monday. Anybody think it will take longer than 48+ hours. We make the change request today at noon. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: firewall problem
i'd like to open our exchange server through the firewall, but my boss thinks this is a 'massive security risk'. i think if i open it just to specified hosts, then that would be ok. what does anyone else think? dan. -Original Message- From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: firewall problem Dear all, I have several exchange servers which work fine through a firewall except one, using the TechNet recommended ports for DS and IS of 1300 and 1301 respectively. The one that doesn't work is one which is running Win2K. The others run NT4. I have set the ports to 1300 and 1301 in the registry as usual, but the server is ignoring this fact. It is just using random ports and so I am having to change the firewall ports instead!!! The ports it uses change after every reboot, so obviously, this is troublesome. Anyone have a fix for this? We are using Exchange 5.5 sp4 thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: firewall problem
you mean if they spoofed the IP address? well our PIX takes care of that, to a point -Original Message- From: Brent Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 12:00 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem How would you know if the hosts attached (seeming to be specified) are actually the hosts you specified? .. you would not. B -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 01:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem i'd like to open our exchange server through the firewall, but my boss thinks this is a 'massive security risk'. i think if i open it just to specified hosts, then that would be ok. what does anyone else think? dan. -Original Message- From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: firewall problem Dear all, I have several exchange servers which work fine through a firewall except one, using the TechNet recommended ports for DS and IS of 1300 and 1301 respectively. The one that doesn't work is one which is running Win2K. The others run NT4. I have set the ports to 1300 and 1301 in the registry as usual, but the server is ignoring this fact. It is just using random ports and so I am having to change the firewall ports instead!!! The ports it uses change after every reboot, so obviously, this is troublesome. Anyone have a fix for this? We are using Exchange 5.5 sp4 thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: firewall problem
thanks for the information -Original Message- From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem Any open port is a potential security risk. This risk increases with the amount you open up on your firewall. Personally, I would only ever allow SMTP traffic to an (relay protected) exchange box inside a firewall. Anything else and I would relay from a box sitting in the DMZ (for smtp, OWA etc etc) thus meaning I only have to allow the RPC and stuff for exchange between 2 specifically defined boxes from the DMZ to the internal network. It will make your life easier if you open these ports right?? So it follows that a hacker's life becomes easier too. If you choose the lazy route you are likely to pay for it in other ways. Regards Dom. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem i'd like to open our exchange server through the firewall, but my boss thinks this is a 'massive security risk'. i think if i open it just to specified hosts, then that would be ok. what does anyone else think? dan. -Original Message- From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: firewall problem Dear all, I have several exchange servers which work fine through a firewall except one, using the TechNet recommended ports for DS and IS of 1300 and 1301 respectively. The one that doesn't work is one which is running Win2K. The others run NT4. I have set the ports to 1300 and 1301 in the registry as usual, but the server is ignoring this fact. It is just using random ports and so I am having to change the firewall ports instead!!! The ports it uses change after every reboot, so obviously, this is troublesome. Anyone have a fix for this? We are using Exchange 5.5 sp4 thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: firewall problem
there is a KB about that i think, have a search Hi, Does anyone know about the original question which was why exchange on Win2K changes its ports and how it can be stopped? many thanks Vanessa -Original Message- From: Couch, Nate [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 13:27 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem What about monitoring of those servers in the DMZ? Do you use PerfMon to check queues or critical processes? If so, what ports are needed there if your monitoring workstation is on the other side of the DMZ? Or do you simply use some kind of paging system when it reaches a threshold? Nate Couch EDS Messaging -- From: Atkinson, Daniel Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 06:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: firewall problem thanks for the information -Original Message- From: Olds, Dominic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:55 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem Any open port is a potential security risk. This risk increases with the amount you open up on your firewall. Personally, I would only ever allow SMTP traffic to an (relay protected) exchange box inside a firewall. Anything else and I would relay from a box sitting in the DMZ (for smtp, OWA etc etc) thus meaning I only have to allow the RPC and stuff for exchange between 2 specifically defined boxes from the DMZ to the internal network. It will make your life easier if you open these ports right?? So it follows that a hacker's life becomes easier too. If you choose the lazy route you are likely to pay for it in other ways. Regards Dom. -Original Message- From: Atkinson, Daniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:46 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: firewall problem i'd like to open our exchange server through the firewall, but my boss thinks this is a 'massive security risk'. i think if i open it just to specified hosts, then that would be ok. what does anyone else think? dan. -Original Message- From: Watkins V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 December 2001 11:16 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: firewall problem Dear all, I have several exchange servers which work fine through a firewall except one, using the TechNet recommended ports for DS and IS of 1300 and 1301 respectively. The one that doesn't work is one which is running Win2K. The others run NT4. I have set the ports to 1300 and 1301 in the registry as usual, but the server is ignoring this fact. It is just using random ports and so I am having to change the firewall ports instead!!! The ports it uses change after every reboot, so obviously, this is troublesome. Anyone have a fix for this? We are using Exchange 5.5 sp4 thanks Vanessa Watkins Network Manager Royal Holloway _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Haiku Friday
weekend here we go tonight i will be drunken then play ps2 -Original Message- From: Antony Slatcher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 13:52 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: RE: Haiku Friday Wow, a night alone Gin, wine, TV and more Gin gonna regret it -Original Message- From: Denis Baldwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 December 2001 13:51 To: Exchange Discussions Subject: Haiku Friday Friday is now here Got Car Trouble Work Trouble Servers still run though Denis _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED] _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Haiku Friday
so four pints you say? i could only make it three still i am happy It's Friday at three I've had four pints of beer I'm a happy boy _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Computer Associates
if you go to the offices of my previous employer, go up the stairs to the server room, you will see a hole in the door. this hole was made with a fist, the fist of the managing director. the fist was used when this particular managing director discovered that his exchange mailbox, containing all his email, contacts, calendar etc could not be restored following a disk crash. the backup software in use was Arcserve. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Licensing
Hi, I'd be grateful if someone could clarify the licensing situation with exchange, the MS site is not particularly informative in this regard. I understand that exchange CAL's must be bought 'per-seat' for each device that will access the server, although academic organisations can buy 'per-mailbox' licensing. I also understand that a CAL is required for OWA access. How does this work? What about users checking their mail from internet cafes etc? Technically, it seems as though you would need a CAL for those machines as well. thanks for any info dan. Exchange 5.5 sp4 Win2k Advanced Server (2-node cluster) _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Contact your local vendor who supplied the licensing. We aren't authorized MS Licensing dealers here. well thanks for that rather rude response. i realise that the folks on this list aren't license vendors, although it's possible that someone might be. regardless, i believe that this is an appropriate place to discuss exchange licensing with other exchange admins. if you disagree strongly enough to merit a post to the list, then perhaps you should explain why. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Licensing
Now do you see why some of us don't like talking about it? :) well, i sense that it's a touchy subject here. perhaps this should be mentioned in the FAQ? thanks for your advice, by the way. dan. _ List posting FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm Archives: http://www.swynk.com/sitesearch/search.asp To unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Exchange List admin:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
