Re: [expert] Setting up autofs
Submitted 27-Jul-00 by Sarang Lakare: > anyway, now my problem is that autofs dosn't work.. nor does normal mount > work! when i say "mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom", it says kernel > cannot recognize /dev/cdrom as a valid character device.. any help? Let me guess, /dev/cdrom is a burner? When you disabled supermount, you also disabled the automatic loading of the ide-scsi module. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
Re: [expert] Problem with DNS after an upgrade
run linuxconf and check your DNS settings.. I wonder why upgrade to 7.1 should change the config files! -sarang
Re: [expert] failed kernel update for 7.1
Submitted 27-Jul-00 by Thomas Lockhart: > 1) after RPM installation, the softlinks in /boot were not consistant > for using the 2.2.16 kernel. Several links pointed at 2.2.15 items. Only the vmlinuz and initrd links need to be correct. System.map will correct itself at boot time. > 2) there is no initrd file for 2.2.16 > 3) mkinitrd declined to create one, saying that it couldn't find a loop > device. It suggested running insmod loop.o, but that file is missing > (see (5) below). You need to insmod loop *before* upgrading the kernel > > Well, afaik initrd isn't necessary (otherwise, the kernel update would > have provided it, right?). The RPM upgrade process has no clue about your hardware configuration and therefore doesn't know to create the initrd. > 4) unable to boot. I suspect that it is missing the necessary Adaptec > SCSI driver. Correct. They would be in the initrd. > 5) some 2.2.15-4mdk kernel resources are missing, so I can't go back > afaik. For example, the RPM upgrade removed the contents of > /lib/modules/2.2.15xxx. Rule #1 of RPM based kernel upgrades: do rpm -i NOT rpm -U. You want both kernels on your machine until you are certain that the new one works well. -- _ _|_|_ ( ) *Anton Graham /v\ / <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /( )X (m_m) GPG ID: 18F78541 Penguin Powered!
Re: [expert] Urgent! KDE won't log off to console!
Dear NorvelL: You have been very helpful. Right on target. It was that Xfree86 4.0 that was the culprit. My Diamond Viper 550 3D card is fully supported by Linux. It's on their list of video cards. But Xfree86 4.0 is too unstable and was wreaking havoc with my system. I just finished a completely fresh install with Xfree86 3.3.6. and all seems well as far as the video issues are concerned. But now I have a bizarre problem on the boot-up about which I wrote the list. It's probably an innocent matter, but I don't understand. If you see my message and can help, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] "Change X-Resolution" Fails
Dear Mark: You are absolutely right! I just finished a fresh new install of 7.1 and I chose to keep the old reliable XFree86 3.3.6 and all those video problems have disappeared. No problem changing resolution in DrakConf. Thanks again. Benjamin Mark Weaver wrote: > > Ben, > > Actually yes. I have a real good idea what's going on. X 4.0 is still very > buggy and it might be a real good idea to install and use X 3.x until they > get the bugs worked out of X 4.0. I tried X 4.0 the first time I tried > Mandrake 7.1 and it didn't work very well. I had a terrible time getting > the display right, so I dropped back to the previous version of X. Haven't > had a problem since. > > -- > Mark > > ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** > > > > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Benjamin Sher wrote: > > > Dear friends: > > > > Just installed LM 7.1 from CD. > > > > DrakConf's "Change X-Resolution" does not work. It shows a little > > screen that says: " Preparing to change resolution." And that's it. The > > actual dialogue box for changing the X-Resolution never shows up. It > > freezes and I have to turn it off with Cnt+Al+Esc. I am using the new > > Xfree86 4.0 server, which passed the screen test and works fine with my > > Nvidia TNT 3d card with 16megs of video RAM. I use 800 x 600 resolution > > with 65,000 colors. That's the way it's set. This is not urgent, since I > > have the resolution I want, but still, I would like for it to work. > > Fortunately, DrakFont successfully installed my Win98 fonts (I have a > > dual-boot system), so I am pleased with that part. > > > > Any idea what might be causing this? How to fix it? > > > > Thanks so much. > > > > Benjamin > > -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Urgent! KDE won\'t log off to console!
Dear Greg: Thanks so much for writing. I have since done a complete, new install of 7.1 with the old Xfree86 3.3.6. Looks like version 4 was screwing things up. No problem with my Nvidia Viper 550 TNT card. It is fully supported by Linux. Thanks again. Benjamin Greg Stewart wrote: > > Ya know... I had the same problem when I installed LM7.0 using XF86 3.3.6 on a >Gateway with an OEM spec'd 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee video card. Most of the time when I >exited X, the screen would go blank and console would not show up. A few times I was >able to blindly type > > shutdown -h now [enter] > > but most of the time the machine would just hang. A hard power-down was the only >thing I could do. > > I haven't checked, but is your Nvidia TNT 3d card fully supported? Ifnot, maybe it >could be having the same (similar) problem as I had until I bought an old P233 box >with an ATI Rage card. > > --greg > > > Dear friends: > > > > Just bought and installed LM 7.1. The installation went fine but I have > > one urgent problem: > > > > Normally when I log off from my default desktop, KDE, into the > > console, I have no problem, but sometimes, and I emphasize, SOMETIMES, I > > end up landing in pitch darkness. That is, the screen shows no sign of > > the console. I wait and wait and nothing happens. I am forced to power > > off and then power back on. Linux then runs through the e2fsc check > > during boot-up. As you can imagine, this makes me very nervous. > > > > Meanwhile, I have tried out Gnome and Fvwm by using switchdesk, and they > > work fine. KDE, of course, remains my preferred desktop. > > > > This has never happened to me before in Linux. > > > > Any idea what could be causing this and how to solve it? > > > > Hope you can help. > > > > All my thanks! > > > > Benjamin > > > > * > Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com ! -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] HELP!!! Error when Install Mandrake 7.0.
yuyue wrote: > > Video Card: Trident Blad 3D > Monitor: 15" SVGA, it can be set to 1024*768*32bit under windows95/98 I have been unable to get the Blade3D (AGP) to work under some hardware. For instance, it will not config at all with my FIC socket 7 board, but can get it to work intermittently under my Asus P5A. I think the card driver is still referred to as an alpha on the trident driver page. Sorry Daniel __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[expert] current url request listing
I'm using a Linux box as server on an internet cafe network to access the internet and cache locally. Can anyone recmmend a program to monitor the current url requests from the clients. This is something my boss wants to see, and being stupid, I've got no answer for him. Thanks Daniel __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Deryk Barker wrote: > > But my favourite speed, nopt that I ever used it, but it was in all > the books, was 134.5 baud. I seem to recall this speed was used by the > comms version of the IBM Selectric typewriter, which was used as a > mainframe console. (I suspect they were aiming for 135 - or maybe 150, > which was another standard rate - and missed). those were the 2740, and 2741 which had a paper tape option. 'nuf history; so no one bring up ... plz! :^) G'nite, Pierre
Re: [expert] FTP
gftp is excellent.. but u can also use kfm as ftp client.. just give ftp://username@host:path in the URL space. -sarang
Re: [expert] Setting up autofs
> That's the only shortcoming of autofs. You don't know which directories > maybe mounted with autofs, without looking at /etc/auto.*. but thats fine as long as you get /mnt/cdrom when u access it. > To access your cdrom, you'll have to type cd /amnt/cdrom (no tab!). It will I tried.. it still dosnt' work.. infact i think the problem is somewhere else.. when i say "autofs status", it dosn't show me any active mount points.. is that the case? ot it shows something only on mounting? anyway, now my problem is that autofs dosn't work.. nor does normal mount work! when i say "mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom", it says kernel cannot recognize /dev/cdrom as a valid character device.. any help? -sarang
Re: [expert] AMD ethalon !!
excellent idea :).. in our computation/memory expensive tasks, AMD athelon 750MHz is 10% faster than Intel P III 800MHz -sarang
Re: [expert] Oracle Installation
What version of glibc are you utilizing? The following was gleaned from technet.oracle.com, and I quote: "Note: Use only glibc 2.1for both Oracle 815 SE and Oracle 815 EE.". Have you examined any orther error logs? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I am trying to install Oracle 8.16 enterprise edition into my system but > when I execute the command > runInstaller > I will only get a text > "Initializing Java Virtual Machine from > ../stage/Components/oracle.swd.jre/1.1.8/1/DataFiles/Expanded/linux/bin/jre. > > Please wait..." > and after that I will only get a gray window and nothing happens. > > Any ideas what is going wrong in my system? > > Mika
[expert] failed kernel update for 7.1
(resent from two days ago; did not get through to the list! Retrying with a "cap E" in the address) OK, I've got a hosed system, and would appreciate some suggestions on how to fix it. System details are: dual PPro, SCSI disks only (except for a CDROM), tulip-chipset PCI ethernet, a sound card, Matrox Millennium graphics card, and not much else. I was (happily, at least after dealing with sendmail->postfix) running mdk-7.0, but needed the 2.2.16 kernel security updates. afaict these are not available for a 7.0 system, at least as built RPMs, so I decided to go to mdk-7.1, for which kernel updates are available. The Mandrake update from 7.0 to 7.1 failed, perhaps for the same reason as discussed below. So, I clean installed, which was successful, at least after selecting the Expert mode (the other modes either did not clear the disks, so failed due to claimed insufficient space, or they declined to install a full set of RPMs). But as of this morning I had a 7.1 system up and running. So, I went ahead and installed the appropriate 2.2.16-9mdk kernel rpms to complete the upgrade. And the system will no longer boot :( The symptoms: 1) after RPM installation, the softlinks in /boot were not consistant for using the 2.2.16 kernel. Several links pointed at 2.2.15 items. 2) there is no initrd file for 2.2.16 3) mkinitrd declined to create one, saying that it couldn't find a loop device. It suggested running insmod loop.o, but that file is missing (see (5) below). Well, afaik initrd isn't necessary (otherwise, the kernel update would have provided it, right?). I fixed up the soft links, since there isn't enough of 2.2.15 to actually work, and then reran lilo and rebooted. Then 4) unable to boot. I suspect that it is missing the necessary Adaptec SCSI driver. 5) some 2.2.15-4mdk kernel resources are missing, so I can't go back afaik. For example, the RPM upgrade removed the contents of /lib/modules/2.2.15xxx. I assume that these problems come up for SCSI-only systems, since others have seen success at upgrading. btw, this is actually the second machine which has failed to upgrade cleanly here, and both machines have similar SCSI-only setups (just with different cards, etc). Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. TIA - Tom ps New information: I was able to recover my 2.2.15-4mdksmp system by writing a CDROM with the missing files taken from another machine. So I'm back up and running with 2.2.15-4, but 2.2.16 is still hosed. And we have since tried to update another machine with the same result: the Adaptec SCSI driver is not being included in the initrd, so the kernel can't figure out how to find the root directory/disk as it boots. -- Thomas Lockhart Caltech/JPL Interferometry Systems and Technology
[expert] LM 7.1 BOOT-UP goes BERSERK!
Dear friends: Well, correctly guessing that some of my problems, at least, might have been caused by XFree86 4.0, I decided to do a completely new install from my LM 7.1 CD's. The problem I had earlier with changing the X-Resolution was, I gather, clearly one of the effects of using XFree86 4.0 (though I do have an Nvidia TNT card.) Everything seems fine this time EXCEPT for a very weird boot-up situation: When the boot sequence moves into Interactive mode, the screen is suddenly inundated with an endless number of rows of the following: [[18~^[[18~^[[18~^[[18~^[[18~^[[18~^ And meanwhile, the boot sequence is going on quite normally and you can see the boot-up messages and the OK signs for every one of them. But the only way to stop this [[18~^ madness is to hit the "i" key for Interactive. Suddenly, the madness stops and the boot-up continues up to the log-in properly and peacefully. This happens only during boot-UP, not during shutdown. Otherwise, everything is fine. This has never happened before to me, not even on my earlier 7.1 installation by FTP. I bought the official Macmillan DeLuxe CD package. The CD's are in excellent condition. So, what could cause this strange phenomenon? Has it ever happened to you? Any ideas on how to solve this bizarre behavior of LM 7.1? Hope one of you gurus has some idea what's going on here, because I sure as hell don't. Thank you all so very much. Benjamin Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web: http://www.websher.net
[expert] Problem with DNS after an upgrade
After uprgrading a working 7.0 install on a Compaq laptop to 7.1, DNS no longer works correctly. I can ping by IP, can ping localhost, but get a DNS error if I try to ping by domain name. I have looked through the mail archives and found a few posts with similar problems, but there were no replies and nothiong from Deja News. Suggestions? What am I missing? Hoyt
Re: [expert] HELP!!! Error when Install Mandrake 7.0.
Try a text install. yuyue wrote: > When I Install ManDrake 7.0 from CDROM, it appears messages like > below: > > > Initializing CDROM... > > in second stage install > -X11TransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect : errno = 111 > -X11TransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect : errno = 111 > Fri Jul 21 22:19:33 2000 Gtk-WARING ** : cannot Open display :: 0 at > /usr/lib/perl-installlmy-gtk.pm line 139 > install exited abnormally > sending termination signals...done > sending kill signals...done > unmounting filesystems... > /tmp/rhimage > /proc > you may safely reboot your system > > > > Here is my computer: > > CPU: AMD K6-2-266 > Mem: 32M Ram > Video Card: Trident Blad 3D > Monitor: 15" SVGA, it can be set to 1024*768*32bit under windows95/98 > > > My E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Thanks
Re: [expert] HELP!!! Error when Install Mandrake 7.0.
your problem seems to be with X.. try installing using text mode install.. I am not very sure how to do that.. hopefully someone will answer u're Q.. or read the README or somethign thats provided with the install CD. but lemme tell you taht I too have a Trident Blade 3D and I could install properly.. only thing is i had to download drivers from trident's web-site and then my X was working perfectly. -sarang
Re: [expert] Urgent! KDE won't log off to console!
user Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill X and come to console.. If the above dosn't work then try putting the kbd in raw mode by pressing Alt-SysReq-r and then the above keys.. I had teh above problem once and I think it was coz I had a trident blade 3D adn the default X server didn't work well with it.. I downloaded alpha version of driver from Trident's website and everything was fine! so i guess the problem is in u're video card. -sarang
Re: [expert] Backup and restore systems
Dear Charles Curley, thanks a lot for the answer. In which month will be published your wonderful article?. I came from Catalonia, and I have some difficulties to find this magazine. I have access to the translation version. However, I will try to pay attention in it. And, well, I have check my preferences box, and I have configured it to send the mail to the list in text format. But, I have to admit that I don't think that it works fine. I'm sorry for that. Leo > You need the article I have sent to Linux Journal for publication, > entitled "Bare Metal Backup and Restore". It will show you how to do this > using a Zip drive and a floppy disy like tomsrtbt. > > You can also look at EST, Inc's QuickStart Data Rescue, at > http://www.estinc.com/qsdr.html. > > Also, would you please turn off the HTML on Netscape's mail > reader. Thanks. > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > -- > > -- C^2 > > No windows were crashed in the making of this email. > > Looking for fine software and/or web pages? > http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature begin:vcard n:Palomo;Leopold x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;Catalonia version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-29952 fn:Leopold Palomo end:vcard
Re: [expert] Urgent! KDE won't log off to console!
Until you get it solved: When you logout and get just the blank screen, try ; this is supposed to kill the X server. If that doesn't do it, hit (or if doesn't do anything). This should switch you back to a console where you can login as root and do a `shutdown -r now' to reboot, the safe way. I've never experienced that problem before, AFAIR, but which version of XFree86 did you select? The version 4 with Mandrake 7.1 is not the stablest for all video cards and there may be some updated RPMs under the updates or cooker directories at a mirror near you. I'm sure I saw at least a version 4.01 somewhere. Wish I could be more helpful. . . ---Norvell Spearman Benjamin Sher wrote: > > Dear friends: > > Just bought and installed LM 7.1. The installation went fine but I have > one urgent problem: > > Normally when I log off from my default desktop, KDE, into the > console, I have no problem, but sometimes, and I emphasize, SOMETIMES, I > end up landing in pitch darkness. That is, the screen shows no sign of > the console. I wait and wait and nothing happens. I am forced to power > off and then power back on. Linux then runs through the e2fsc check > during boot-up. As you can imagine, this makes me very nervous. > > Meanwhile, I have tried out Gnome and Fvwm by using switchdesk, and they > work fine. KDE, of course, remains my preferred desktop. > > This has never happened to me before in Linux. > > Any idea what could be causing this and how to solve it? > > Hope you can help. > > All my thanks! > > Benjamin > > -- > Benjamin and Anna Sher > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sher's Russian Web > http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Charles Curley wrote: > On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 08:59:02AM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > honestly I can't begin to imagine writting a program on punch > > > cards. seems to me that something like that would take literally forever! > > > > > I took a class back in the early 80's on how to program in RPG. The > > funny thing was, that even though we were using terminals, we still > > had punch-card emulators and had to have everything in EXACTLY the > > right column and the right "card." Talk about annoying! :-) > > John > > > That's because RPG is (was, one hopes) a programming language designed to > emulate punched cards. > > Now, can we kill the nostagia thread and return to the present? Why? I've really been enjoying it. I think it's really cool to hear about the early days of computers and programming. These people that were in the industry in those days really broke the ground and set the standards that the rest of us take for granted! Mark No Penguins were mistreated in the making of this message.
Re: [expert] network administrator
Well I suggest that you get a copy of Linux with some documentation and try it out. It also helps to know a good deal about the hardware you plan to run Linux on. Good Luck, Don On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, you wrote: > Hello there > > I am a Windows NT Network Administrator "MCSE" now i would like to extend my > skill & go for Linux Administration. now the question is that does my > being an Nt administrator help me in any way with Linux.? > Also what should i know to be a good Linux Admin ? I heard linux users have > to > do a lots of programing too do i have to do that as well ? > > thankyou > Faisal
Re: [expert] Test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I don't know...is this list moderated? - -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Christopher Cox wrote: > A couple of my posts never made it. > > I just figured it was the lists moderator forwarding them to Tech's instead > of the list. > > Christopher Cox > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 6.5.2 iQA/AwUBOX+HNMyAJXntrICxEQI+OwCfcByNFHMYutWPJRf7jBt0JcB/3xoAn118 8shX6NWwgLW+gvhT12hXJCjd =f2VR -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [expert] Urgent! KDE won\'t log off to console!
Ya know... I had the same problem when I installed LM7.0 using XF86 3.3.6 on a Gateway with an OEM spec'd 3Dfx Voodoo Banshee video card. Most of the time when I exited X, the screen would go blank and console would not show up. A few times I was able to blindly type shutdown -h now [enter] but most of the time the machine would just hang. A hard power-down was the only thing I could do. I haven't checked, but is your Nvidia TNT 3d card fully supported? Ifnot, maybe it could be having the same (similar) problem as I had until I bought an old P233 box with an ATI Rage card. --greg > Dear friends: > > Just bought and installed LM 7.1. The installation went fine but I have > one urgent problem: > > Normally when I log off from my default desktop, KDE, into the > console, I have no problem, but sometimes, and I emphasize, SOMETIMES, I > end up landing in pitch darkness. That is, the screen shows no sign of > the console. I wait and wait and nothing happens. I am forced to power > off and then power back on. Linux then runs through the e2fsc check > during boot-up. As you can imagine, this makes me very nervous. > > Meanwhile, I have tried out Gnome and Fvwm by using switchdesk, and they > work fine. KDE, of course, remains my preferred desktop. > > This has never happened to me before in Linux. > > Any idea what could be causing this and how to solve it? > > Hope you can help. > > All my thanks! > > Benjamin > * Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com !
Re: [expert] "Change X-Resolution" Fails
Ben, Actually yes. I have a real good idea what's going on. X 4.0 is still very buggy and it might be a real good idea to install and use X 3.x until they get the bugs worked out of X 4.0. I tried X 4.0 the first time I tried Mandrake 7.1 and it didn't work very well. I had a terrible time getting the display right, so I dropped back to the previous version of X. Haven't had a problem since. -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Benjamin Sher wrote: > Dear friends: > > Just installed LM 7.1 from CD. > > DrakConf's "Change X-Resolution" does not work. It shows a little > screen that says: " Preparing to change resolution." And that's it. The > actual dialogue box for changing the X-Resolution never shows up. It > freezes and I have to turn it off with Cnt+Al+Esc. I am using the new > Xfree86 4.0 server, which passed the screen test and works fine with my > Nvidia TNT 3d card with 16megs of video RAM. I use 800 x 600 resolution > with 65,000 colors. That's the way it's set. This is not urgent, since I > have the resolution I want, but still, I would like for it to work. > Fortunately, DrakFont successfully installed my Win98 fonts (I have a > dual-boot system), so I am pleased with that part. > > Any idea what might be causing this? How to fix it? > > Thanks so much. > > Benjamin >
Re: [expert] Backup and restore systems
Dear Charles Curley, thanks a lot for the answer. In which month will be published your wonderful article?. I came from Catalonia, and I have some difficulties to find this magazine. I have access to the translation version. However, I will try to pay attention in it. And, well, I have check my preferences box, and I have configured it to send the mail to the list in text format. But, I have to admit that I don't think that it works fine. I'm sorry for that. Leo > You need the article I have sent to Linux Journal for publication, > entitled "Bare Metal Backup and Restore". It will show you how to do this > using a Zip drive and a floppy disy like tomsrtbt. > > You can also look at EST, Inc's QuickStart Data Rescue, at > http://www.estinc.com/qsdr.html. > > Also, would you please turn off the HTML on Netscape's mail > reader. Thanks. > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > Content-Description: Targeta per a Leopold Palomo > > -- > > -- C^2 > > No windows were crashed in the making of this email. > > Looking for fine software and/or web pages? > http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley > > >Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature begin:vcard n:Palomo;Leopold x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;Catalonia version:2.1 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] x-mozilla-cpt:;-29952 fn:Leopold Palomo end:vcard
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Greg Stewart wrote: > > What I learned was that you basically had to "build" a circuit that performed a >particular function. > > Kinda' like a Light Brite, but instead of pretty pictures, it was actually worth >something... :) That's a pretty good analogy! The only difference was that the wiring was on the top surface and didn't glow (usually :^) Pierre > --Greg > > > I never heard about the plug boards. What were they, and what specifically > > might one use one for? > > > > -- > > Mark > > > > ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** > > > > * > Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com !
Re: [expert] network administrator
One certified, now wait.. *certifiable* NT Admin to another, the only really beneficial thing that will help you understand Linux networking is the general networking knowledge from MCSE. If you took the course from Microsoft (as opposed to a technical college that incorporates the courseware) The product-specific knowledge and experience points us towards the point-and-click MS view of getting things done. Sure, MS still hadn't been able to get the scheduler, and some net use commands, and miniscule "etc." into gui with NT (and I'm too nauseated by 2000 to search for the stuff) but the will eventually. But that's not enough command line experience--in my opinion--to make one a decent Linux admin. One thing you'll notice with Linux (and I'll bet you become addicted) is the flexibility of configuration of it and the ability for total control (through command line) when administering Linux from a remote console. It's not the quirk Novell RConsole crap. And you're not limited by 5 or so gui apps in NT Server, or the insecurities of Microslut's SMS. There is definitely a steep learning curve--at least it's there for me--but I believe it's well worth it. AND, the ability to integrate a FREE, (wish I could get the caps larger) RELIABLE, and FULLY FUNCTIONAL SMB file/print server into an NT domain will save any open-minded MIS department lots. The potential Linux has for completely destroying the MS Server market is incredible...it's the "fear" of the OS that is limiting its growth in the corporate market. I would definitely work toward certification, but there aren't as many companies that will really care about it just yet as are ones that like to see "MCP, MCP+Internet, MSCE, and MSCE+Internet" on a cute, colourful, little waste of yellow-ish plastic. Can only say this 'cause it's my opinion, but I expected I'm not all that alone. --Greg > Hello there > > I am a Windows NT Network Administrator "MCSE" now i would like to extend my > skill & go for Linux Administration. now the question is that does my > being an Nt administrator help me in any way with Linux.? > Also what should i know to be a good Linux Admin ? I heard linux users have > to > do a lots of programing too do i have to do that as well ? > > thankyou > Faisal > > * Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com !
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Deryk Barker wrote: > > Thus spake Mark Weaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > honestly I can't begin to imagine writting a program on punch > > cards. seems to me that something like that would take literally > > forever! > > Only if you had to punch the cards one hole at a time, by hand (as I > did with the very first program I ever wrote, 1968 Fortan for an IBM > 7090) Mark-sense cards were definitely easier, just needed a 2B pencil... > -- > |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| > |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | > |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | > |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Pj wrote: > > Well, ya all make me ashamed to admit to learning keypunch-- compliments of > IBM-- for Caterpillar. The mainframe, I believe, was in its infancy at then. > > Pj The 026 or 029 punch? :^) Wow... I've forgotten the sorter and card interpretter (080?) models... "ol'timers" setting in... Pierre
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Greg Stewart wrote: > > Nope, hadn't that particular thrill...but I do remeber the card readers and tape.. assUme you mean "mag" tape here... :^) > And, only heard about the plug boards when I was first learning programming. "Wrote" more plugboards than I care to remember (IBM407 Accounting Machine if anyone's wondering). > I remember my first internet experience was playing Star Trek on a DEC terminal >through a telephone coupler as a modem link. I *did* like the hundreds of lights on >those modems, though... looked real cool when I was 12 years old! In the early '60s, the NORAD computers were tube-type and a core dump consisted of taking a Polaroid of a wall of neon bulbs... Talk about lights!! :^) Couplers were around for longer than they shoulda been... but then again, I had the opportunity to work on solid-state 2400baud modems in '64, 1300b tube-type in '63... anybody notice this was pre-RS232...? :^) Now, I *am* feeling old, Pierre > > No one remembers the Diablo drives, 5M fixed & 5M removable (soft sectored > > cartridges made for some fun when mounted on a hard sector drive :) > > > > But that was "high tech" compared to storage which consisted of paper tape, > > punch cards, mag tape... Of course, even these were great when compared to > > programs "written" on 30"x30" (if I remember the size correctly) plug boards > > with loads of wires and the odd diode to prevent backflow. That was about the > > time it took an entire weekend to sort a few thousand "records" (cards, one > > column at a time) if not too many cards were "eaten" by the sorter which > > required a trip to the 026/029 machines... Then VM appeared on the > > IBM360/67... Ahh!!! :^) > > > > Retired (not yet 55), > > Pierre > > > > PS: The best "flashback" was watching a co-worker go airborne... he was > > sitting on a chair which he rolled over bubble wrap while pulling out a DEC > > power supply drawer... :^) :^) > > > > Greg Stewart wrote: > > > > > > I remember when a 10MB hard drive was the size of pizza, fit into a >refridgerator-sized beast ofa cabinet, and PCs had 8 & 1/2 inch floppy diskettes! > > * > Want free email? Sign up at http://www.freeze.com !
[fwd] Re: [expert] Setting up autofs (from: ASkwar@DigitalProjects.com)
The mailing list software really get's on nerves. I sent this mail yesterday to capital E, and it hasn't shown up. At least for me. When will Dennis be back? - Forwarded message from Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 14:00:47 +0200 Subject: Re: [expert] Setting up autofs To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 11:15:31PM -0400, Sarang Lakare wrote: > Then I tried to access a cd by saying ls /amnt/ and I can't see any > cdrom directory.. Is it created automatically or am I suppose to create it > beforehand. That's the only shortcoming of autofs. You don't know which directories maybe mounted with autofs, without looking at /etc/auto.*. To access your cdrom, you'll have to type cd /amnt/cdrom (no tab!). It will then mount automagically, and the directory will also be created. You might get the idea that it might be wise to create symlinks pointing to that automount dir, like ln -vs /amnt/cdrom /cdrom. Don't do that though! If you list the contents of your / dir (ls -la /), this will try to mount /amnt/cdrom, and if there's no CD in the CD-Rom, you will have to wait for the timeout of autofs before you can go on. > Infact, I tried creatign /amnt/cdrom and /amnt/floppy and then starting > autofs.. but same results.. I can't see contents in /amnt/cdrom This won't work. To unmount your file systems before they are automatically unmounted, you have to send the signal USR1 to all automount processes: /usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount Since it may be that only root can do that, I installed sudo and added this line to /etc/sudoers: ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount Now every user can type sudo /usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount And because that's a little bit much to type, I created a small script, called /usr/local/scripts/demount (put it somewhere in the path). The contents: #!/bin/sh sudo /usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191 - End forwarded message - Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [expert] network administrator
Actually the best way for you to find out just what you need to know is for you to actually attempt to install Linux on a machine and get it running. I'm sure you will soon see the areas of your present knowledge that apply and what areas you are lacking in. In answer to your second question, no, you really don't need any previous programming knowledge to be a Linux Admin, but knowing PERL, C++, some Java, Javascript, Tcl, Python just to name a few never really hurts and can only enhance the experience. -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, fasi74 wrote: > Hello there > > I am a Windows NT Network Administrator "MCSE" now i would like to extend my > skill & go for Linux Administration. now the question is that does my > being an Nt administrator help me in any way with Linux.? > Also what should i know to be a good Linux Admin ? I heard linux users have > to > do a lots of programing too do i have to do that as well ? > > thankyou > Faisal > > > > >
Re: [expert] network administrator
>I am a Windows NT Network Administrator "MCSE" now i would like to extend my >skill & go for Linux Administration. now the question is that does my >being an Nt administrator help me in any way with Linux.? In the narrow technical view, not really. In a broader view, yes, it helps immensly because many of the computer concepts are similar. Consider an example using your home and my home. In each home there is a place to cook and eat, a place to sleep, a place to bath, etc. Now, if you come to my home and look for a particular kitchen utensil I may not have exactly what you want, or I may have it in a drawer you would never think to look at. But both of us have everything necessary to cook and eat. The specific details about our homes differ greatly, but the general concepts are the same. (All from the same Platonic Forms, so to speak.) It's the same way with NT, Unix, VMS, name_any_other_OS_here. Most things you need are there, somewhere. You may have to look around to find them. And most Unix diehards think the Unix kitchen is better equiped and better designed because it's built by diehards for diehards. >Also what should i know to be a good Linux Admin ? I heard linux users have >to do a lots of programing too do i have to do that as well ? I have known people who knew no more than how to add and delete users, and others who were truly amazing in their knowledge. You need to know enough so you are comfortable with your results. MB
[expert] AMD ethalon !!
Hello there I am thinking of shifting my server from intel to AMD ethalon is this a good idea ???
Re: [expert] Backup and restore systems
I have successfully used flexbackup (freshmeat has it). This provides a friendlier command line front end to afio, cpio, tar, etc.. From what I could glean afio is a much more robust (i.e. fault tolerant) and high performance alternative to cpio. Hope that helps. Steve Mark Weaver wrote: > yes! as a matter of fact this information is very helpful. Thank you > very much. This is the most information I've seen yet on this subject > all in one place. > > Where does one look for the syntax similar to what you're using to talk > to the operating system like this? The way a GUI would. > > Christopher Cox wrote: > > > > Well man dump yielded no results here. I use either tar or cpio. > > > > A standard way that Unix backs things up is with cpio. > > If Mandrake would fix their version, backup would be: > > > > find / -print | cpio -ocv >/dev/WHATEVERDEV 2>/tmp/BACKUP.LOG > > > > Where WHATEVERDEV could be a tape device, CDR, CDRW even a filename. > > > > Restoring would be: > > > > cpio -icduvm > > > Restoring a particular file: > > > > cpio -icduvm PARTICULARFILE > > > If you want to restore a subdirectories worth, be sure to enclose any > > expandable characters (*?[]$) in single quotes > > > > cpio -icduvm '/PARTICULAR/SUBDIRECTORY/*' > > > I hope this helps Mark. > > > > Regards > > > > Christopher Cox > > > > -- > > > From: Mark Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [expert] Backup and restore systems > > > Date: Monday, July 24, 2000 3:28 PM > > > > > > What I wouldn't mind knowing is, is there a list of commands that one > > > would use to utilize dump? From reading the man files for this utility > > > I've been able to create some backup files, but have no idea of how to > > > restore the bcked up files to their original place. > > > > > > Christopher Cox wrote: > > > > > > > > Just do not use cpio with versions greater than or equal to 7. > > > > > > > > It would appear Mandrake broke it. I have yet for anyone to respond as > > to > > > > why. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Christopher Cox > > > > > > -- > > > Mark > > > > > > I love my Linux box... > > > REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! > > > Registered Linux user #1299563 > > > > > -- > Mark > > I love my Linux box... > REASON #1 -- ...it isn't Windows! > Registered Linux user #1299563
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Thus spake Greg Stewart ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [...] > But that internet was definitely a hoot at 112 baud! 112? I can clearly recall working with an acoustic coupler over a line so noisy that 110 was the best we could manage. But my favourite speed, nopt that I ever used it, but it was in all the books, was 134.5 baud. I seem to recall this speed was used by the comms version of the IBM Selectric typewriter, which was used as a mainframe console. (I suspect they were aiming for 135 - or maybe 150, which was another standard rate - and missed). Happy days -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
Re: [expert] 7.1 Installation problems
> Submitted 25-Jul-00 by Alan Blundell: > > The installer changed hda3 (extended partition containing hda6, 7, > > and windows drive 'D:') to type 85 'Linux Extended') > > I fixed this by changing the partition type to 'extended' (type 5) with > > linux fdisk, which fixed things again, but it had me worried for a while, > > because Windows didn't even recognise the existence of its > > poor old drive 'D:', where I keep all my (office) work. > There is a "bug" in the 7.1 installation whereby if you install in Automatic mode then the first extended partition on the hd will be changed to Type 85. Charles
Re: [expert] Building a new Lm system
You have to do some homework. I just got thru looking at various sales spots, and I figure that I can put together an Athlon 800MHz machine with an Abit KA7-100 mobo, 128 MB PC133, and 15 GB IBM ATA-100 hd, using presently available (that I have) monitor, sound card, video card, mouse, CDR, and KB, for about $800. Now I'm trying to work up the courage to do it! (I haven't looked at preassembled systems, because they tend to bundle in more than I need. I'd rather use my faithful IBM KB, and my trackball, most bundles include a useless-to-Linux winmodem, and I've got a better monitor than any bundle I've ever seen from anybody.) At 10:25 PM 07/25/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Hi all, > >I am planning to build a new system. >What will be the approx price to assemble a 700+ Mhz system. >I have a choice of buying a complete system from one of the Linux harware >guys or building my own. Which will be cheaper. > >If building my own can i rely on online purchase of components, will it be >cheaper in any way. > >I am looking forward to all your feedback. > >Cheers >Sridhar > > > > > > > >
[expert] Which unnecessary files can I delete?
Looking at the files in my Mandrake 7.1 install I see a whole lot of files that appear unnecessary and that I would like to delete to save disk space. Some obvious candidates are: /usr/lib/linuxconf/help.de , help .es, etc (all the help files in languages I do not speak) Is it safe to delete these directories? What other directories are similar candidates for wasted disk space? Thanks. Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Registered (Newbie) Linux user 183185
RE: [expert] samba
I've only seen this behavior with NT boxes. NT creates pseudo shares for every local drive. > -Original Message- > From: Mike & Tracy Holt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 2:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] samba > > > > > > Hmm, Based on that I decided to try running kruiser as root before > > > changing any permissions. I su'ed and started kruiser > from konsole, I > > > then logged in with my user name/password and it worked. Is this a > > > > I could get it to work by setting suid. But I don't know > about security > > concerns. > > > > But now I can see onlt C: on the remote machine.. it has 2 > more drives > > (partitions).. E: and F:.. but I see them as E$ and F$ and > can't access > > them.. what does this mean? > > Those would be hidden shares on a windows box, meaning you > wouldn't see them > as shared items from another windows box unless you had > administrator name > and password; and then you would have to access them by > putting the '$' > after the share. By default you would have > \\computername\admin$ which > would put you at the %systemroot%, > \\computername\driveletter$ which would > put you at that drive letter root and \\computername\print$ > which would give > access to the printer. > I don't have samba experience yet, but I would think that > your problem is in > the way your linux box is interpreting the other shares - are > they actually > shared to the rest of your network? > > Hope that helps, Mike > > > > -sarang > > >
RE: [expert] I'll be back
My company appears to have tied themselves quite closely to MS. The mail servers are NT boxes requiring domain logins which to me means no POP and no SMTP. I don't know enough about Outlook/Exchange to know what protocol the client/server system uses. I do know the system normally acts like an IMAP4 server because we can access our email via the web or DL locally to our machines via Outlook. Matt > -Original Message- > From: John Aldrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [expert] I'll be back > > > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Outlook 2000 DOES do threading. I'm using for this list > now. I have to use > > Outlook as my company has standardized on M$ Exchange. > > > Does Exchange not do POP and SMTP? > John >
RE: [expert] Test
It sounds like I'm not the only one who never sees their posts in the forum. I believe mine get thru simply because I see the responses from other folks on this list. Yesterday, I unsubscribed/resubscribed to the list, thinking that might help (it didn't). I guess the list server hates me. Matt > -Original Message- > From: Bob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 10:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] Test > > > Capital C? [EMAIL PROTECTED]? > > hehe sorry. couldn't resist > > At 05:52 PM 7/25/2000 +0200, you wrote: > >On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 09:19:52AM +0930, Brian Schroeder wrote: > > > I haven't seen anything on this list for a few days. > It's usually high > > > volume. Am I getting through? > > > >a) No problems here! I get my hourly amount of email, just > like every day. > >b) Yes, you are getting through. But make sure to send > everything to > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (with a capital C) > > > >Alexander Skwar > >-- > >Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com > >Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer > GnuPG Keys > >ICQ:7328191 >
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, you wrote: > Ok...I'm still a little foggy on this console stuff. I'm only half > there. So, if my desktop freezes as it has once or twice since I've > started working with Linux,(about 14 months), and CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE > doesn't take me out of X, then will CTL-ALT-Fx (x = 1-6) get me there > without having to do a hardboot and risk filesystem damage? > Maybe. If your capslock and numlock work (i.e. the lights blink when you switch 'em) it SHOULD work, but you may be completely locked. OTOH, if you have another computer and can telnet or ssh in, that might be the best way to gracefully reboot. John
Re: [expert] Nic problem
fasi74 wrote: > > I was using mandrake 7 normally until i added another NIC now its is not > showning it gets detect on kudzu but cant configure it need help quickly . Huh? Tell us what you are trying to do and we will give you a step by step. Like: Are you adding a LAN to a gateway machine? Are you adding a gateway to a LAN? -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Mandrake Linux. To write a poem in 17 syllables is very diffic
[expert] FTP
Is anyone aware of a graphical FTP program that will allow you to open multiple servers (more than 2) concurrently and where I can download it? Thanks... Dave
Re: [expert] Running an X app from remote host
> 3) export DISPLAY = local-host-ip:0 Thanks to those who replied. This did the trick. > Another way is to use ssh x-forwarding, you can use the ssh from > www.ssh.com, or openssh, but X-forwarding is broken on Openssh in LM7.1, > you must manually do "xauth merge /tmp/ssh-/cookies" where is > some random garbage. This is how I really wanted to do it in the first place, but I couldn't get it working (especially after that great tutorial on mandrakeuser.org). Is this in fact broken in 7.1? It would be very nice to get this fixed... -- Stephen > -- > Regards, > > Ellick Chan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 25
[expert] FTP
Is anyone aware of a graphical FTP program that will allow you to open multiple servers (more than 2) concurrently and where I can download it? Thanks... Dave
Re: [expert] Can IP routing slow down startx?
On Wed, Jul 26, 2000 at 09:08:18AM +0200, Marco Fioretti wrote: > Hello, > > after connecting my two computers, and configuring them, > I have noticed that, while I can ftp and telnet at the > maximum speed between the two, something weird happened > on the "client", i.e. on the one that should use the > other as its Internet Gateway. > (Gateway = 192.168.1.1, Client = 192.168.1.2) > > 1) on the client, route -n gives: > > Kernel IP routing table > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse > Iface > > 192.168.1.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 > eth0 > > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 > eth0 > > 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 > lo > > 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 0 0 > eth0 > > Please notice the first route: I know it should'nt be > there, but I can't figure out how it slipped in: > how do I remove it permanently? > ( I also said to Linuxconf that the gateway should > do IP routing: was it correct?) I have no idea what to do about this problem. You might reboot and see if it is there immediately on reboot. On the other tentacle, are you sure it shouldn't be there? Perhaps it should be there but is incorrect. I have: root@charlesc # route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.3 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 00 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 00 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.640.0.0.0 UG0 00 eth0 where charlesc's IP address is 192.168.1.3. > > > 2) After networking, starting X on the client takes > 5/6 minutes, against 30/40 seconds it took before, > and during this time there is ethernet traffic (i.e. > the NIC led flashes) every ~10 seconds. > After it is started, everything works at the usual > speed. > > Are the two things connected? Why? Probably. The reason is that X uses TCP/IP to communicate between X servers (the video card driver, basically) and clients (the application programs). That is why you can run a program on one machine and display on another, a very useful facility. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
[expert] URGENT! Can't log off KDE into Console! -- SOLVED!
Dear friends: Thanks to two list members, one on the KDE list, I understand the problem of why sometimes when I log off from KDE, I end up in a blank, dark screen instead of the console. Here is the explanation from Kevin of the KDE list: "The problem I think, is that you are not being switched back to a tty. Once you get to your pitch black screen, try pressing either ALT-Fn, or CTRL-ALT-Fn, where n=1...6. X usually shows up as ALT-F7, or CTRL-ALT-F7. I had the same problem when I first installed Caldera 2.2. BTW the reason for the ALT/CTRL-ALT confusion is that from the console, ALT works, but X traps it and uses CTRL-ALT instead. Since X should have shut down by that point ALT should work, but I have found that CTRL-ALT works without X as well. Thanks so much, folks. I feel a lot better now. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Building a new Lm system
- Original Message - From: "Sridhar G" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mandrake Expert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 1:25 AM Subject: [expert] Building a new Lm system > Hi all, > > I am planning to build a new system. > What will be the approx price to assemble a 700+ Mhz system. > I have a choice of buying a complete system from one of the Linux harware > guys or building my own. Which will be cheaper. > > If building my own can i rely on online purchase of components, will it be > cheaper in any way. Sridar Researching and knowing the parts I wanted and then using shopper.com and pricewatch.com I was able to build what I think is a very good system for around $900.( This does not include monitor or printer. The system is an Athlon 650 192MB Ram FIC SD-11 mobo (2) 12.5Gb IBM DeskStar hds Standard floppy NEC internal ZIP Blaster 48x CD-Rom Graphics Blaster Riva TNT (16Mb) AGP SB Live value sound ActionTec external modem MS Nat Elite keyboard Logitech MouseMan Wheel All of the above components were purchased online. Both 7.0 and 7.1 recognized and set-up all my hardware,though I do have to configure the wheel mouse. I think I saved several hundred $ by building myself but even if I saved nothing I really enjoyed doing it. After the experience of building My first system I would not even consider buying a "complete system". Charles
Re: [expert] I'll be back
Civilme, You'll be missed by all of us and are definitely needed... I hope someone sends his outlook a really nice love letter. hehe Nightwriter At 07:03 AM 7/25/00, you wrote: >Civileme wrote: > > > A political appointee has decided that he can't use kmail and must have > > outlook. Today he showed his power by dismissing me and four other > employees > > to scrape together enough money to convert to Microsoft. > > > > I'll be moving from place to place for a while, and I won't have a steady > > address. So take care folks. I'll catch up when I can. > > > > Civileme > >We'll be looking forward to your return. > >Best of luck, let us know if we can help. >-- >Joseph S Gardner > >Senior Designer / Technical Support >Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >The box said, >"Requires Windows 3.x or better", >so I got Linux. > >Registered Linux user #1696600 >
Re: [expert] Building a new Lm system
Sridhar G wrote: > Hi all, > > I am planning to build a new system. > What will be the approx price to assemble a 700+ Mhz system. > I have a choice of buying a complete system from one of the Linux harware > guys or building my own. Which will be cheaper. > > If building my own can i rely on online purchase of components, will it be > cheaper in any way. > > I am looking forward to all your feedback. > > Cheers > Sridhar Buying -vs- building is a tough choice. on the buying side is the fact that a system shows up on your doorstep pre-assembled and pre-installed (hopefully) but building your own gives you MUCH greater control over the components used (video, hard drive mfg/type, etc..) You also get your choice of distributions. Price-wise you'll find very little difference unless you're going to reuse some pieces you currently have. My last system was: CPU Athlon K7-750 = $250 (US) MoboAbit K6= $130 RAM 128M = $130 HD Maxtor 40G = $250 VideoDiamond S540 = $0 reused Case = $80 keyboard = $0 reused Monitor = $0 reused Mouse = $0 reused CD Rom= $0 reused Sound card = $0 reused Floppy = $0 reused Total= $840 (US) not bad for a machine that smokes but unless you have extra hardware laying around to reuse the price can easily match that of a completed unit. Good luck and don't forget to include shipping/tax when comparing prices -- Joseph S Gardner Senior Designer / Technical Support Kirby Co., Cleveland, OH [EMAIL PROTECTED] The box said, "Requires Windows 3.x or better", so I got Linux. Registered Linux user #1696600
RE: [expert] Why Supermount by default?
> These small things bring a really bad reputation to linux. Don't exagerate. It's just you that's having problems, not the whole Mandrake "community". It has been stated that Supermount has some major issues. Therefore in my thoughts it is unstable. Should it not carry a (experimental) tag next to it since it has been stated that Reiser fs should do the same (if it is even included in distros) -Original Message- From: Alexander Skwar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Why Supermount by default? On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 12:41:26AM -0400, Sarang Lakare wrote: > If there is so much trouble with supermount, then why is it included by > defaut? (I know there is a option to unclick it when u are in expert > install).. but why keep somethgin thats beta?? Hmm, no problems here! > How is autofs? can't we set its default directory to /mnt and install it? Yes, I really second that! I like autofs a whole lot more than supermount. Can't even think of a reason why supermount was introduced in the first place, when autofs is working so fine! Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [expert] Backup and restore systems
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 11:30:29PM -0600, Steve Browne wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:48:58 +0100, you wrote: > > >What I had in mind was (1) a Linux only solution and (2) using a tape as > >the backup device. The reason is that many of my company's customers > >(rural telephone cooperatives) would like to become ISPs and my > >supervisor wanted me to come up with a Linux solution; besides, I have > >only one hard drive at home :-). Thanks. > > I personally think that tape is an outdated solution. I equipped my > tower case with "mobile" drive docks, so I can pop HDDs in and out at > will. I back up Mandrake with a Win98 "rescue" floppy (MSDOS 7.0) then > switching to a Ghost floppy. The neat thing about Ghost is that it > backs up all sorts of filesystems - even Martian for all I know. So I > mirror the entire hard drive to a backup hard drive of the same model > and size. Your description of ghost makes me a bit nervous. I conjecture from it that ghost backs up partitions as disk images, not file by file. This has two problems. 1) Since a partition image is backed up, it backs up empty blocks as well as useful data, making the backup larger than necessary. 2) It is not possible to extract individual files from a backup, making it impossible to revert a portion of a file system to a prior date. Restoring individual files is a fairly common request. If you mirror to a hard drive, can you read the file system on the mirrored drive? Can you not get the same effect from within Linux with dd? You should still shut down certain processes, e.g. databases, before running it, but you could leave other services running. That way you don't take the system entirely off line while running the backup. Tape is not entirely obsolete. 40 GB on a DDS 3 tape occupies a lot less volume and is more mechanically robust than 40 GB on a hard drive. -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
Re: [expert] Setting up autofs
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 11:15:31PM -0400, Sarang Lakare wrote: > Then I tried to access a cd by saying ls /amnt/ and I can't see any > cdrom directory.. Is it created automatically or am I suppose to create it > beforehand. That's the only shortcoming of autofs. You don't know which directories maybe mounted with autofs, without looking at /etc/auto.*. To access your cdrom, you'll have to type cd /amnt/cdrom (no tab!). It will then mount automagically, and the directory will also be created. You might get the idea that it might be wise to create symlinks pointing to that automount dir, like ln -vs /amnt/cdrom /cdrom. Don't do that though! If you list the contents of your / dir (ls -la /), this will try to mount /amnt/cdrom, and if there's no CD in the CD-Rom, you will have to wait for the timeout of autofs before you can go on. > Infact, I tried creatign /amnt/cdrom and /amnt/floppy and then starting > autofs.. but same results.. I can't see contents in /amnt/cdrom This won't work. To unmount your file systems before they are automatically unmounted, you have to send the signal USR1 to all automount processes: /usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount Since it may be that only root can do that, I installed sudo and added this line to /etc/sudoers: ALL ALL=NOPASSWD:/usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount Now every user can type sudo /usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount And because that's a little bit much to type, I created a small script, called /usr/local/scripts/demount (put it somewhere in the path). The contents: #!/bin/sh sudo /usr/bin/killall -USR1 automount Alexander Skwar -- Homepage: http://www.digitalprojects.com Sichere Mail? Mail an [EMAIL PROTECTED] fuer GnuPG Keys ICQ:7328191
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 08:59:02AM -0400, John Aldrich wrote: > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > honestly I can't begin to imagine writting a program on punch > > cards. seems to me that something like that would take literally forever! > > > I took a class back in the early 80's on how to program in RPG. The > funny thing was, that even though we were using terminals, we still > had punch-card emulators and had to have everything in EXACTLY the > right column and the right "card." Talk about annoying! :-) > John That's because RPG is (was, one hopes) a programming language designed to emulate punched cards. Now, can we kill the nostagia thread and return to the present? Thanks -- -- C^2 No windows were crashed in the making of this email. Looking for fine software and/or web pages? http://w3.trib.com/~ccurley PGP signature
Re: [expert] Test
A couple of my posts never made it. I just figured it was the lists moderator forwarding them to Tech's instead of the list. Christopher Cox
[expert] "Change X-Resolution" Fails
Dear friends: Just installed LM 7.1 from CD. DrakConf's "Change X-Resolution" does not work. It shows a little screen that says: " Preparing to change resolution." And that's it. The actual dialogue box for changing the X-Resolution never shows up. It freezes and I have to turn it off with Cnt+Al+Esc. I am using the new Xfree86 4.0 server, which passed the screen test and works fine with my Nvidia TNT 3d card with 16megs of video RAM. I use 800 x 600 resolution with 65,000 colors. That's the way it's set. This is not urgent, since I have the resolution I want, but still, I would like for it to work. Fortunately, DrakFont successfully installed my Win98 fonts (I have a dual-boot system), so I am pleased with that part. Any idea what might be causing this? How to fix it? Thanks so much. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
[expert] Urgent! KDE won't log off to console!
Dear friends: Just bought and installed LM 7.1. The installation went fine but I have one urgent problem: Normally when I log off from my default desktop, KDE, into the console, I have no problem, but sometimes, and I emphasize, SOMETIMES, I end up landing in pitch darkness. That is, the screen shows no sign of the console. I wait and wait and nothing happens. I am forced to power off and then power back on. Linux then runs through the e2fsc check during boot-up. As you can imagine, this makes me very nervous. Meanwhile, I have tried out Gnome and Fvwm by using switchdesk, and they work fine. KDE, of course, remains my preferred desktop. This has never happened to me before in Linux. Any idea what could be causing this and how to solve it? Hope you can help. All my thanks! Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
:) ... my wife thinks the same thing about me sometimes. <-- in reference to last comment. At first I hated Assembler because I was so stinkin confused what with ALL the stuff that was going on at once and all the rules that you had to know all at once to use it, and just when I THOUGHT I was getting the hang of it the professor threw registers at us. I thought I was going to swallow my own head! "Register what? ...notation??" I had to take the class a second time before I really got the hang of it and I really started to develope a strong liking for it. I like to code using sub-routines as opposed to straight-line logic coding, and at times COBOL can be a real pain in the butt to try to do this with. However, I found out quickly that Assembler is perfectly suited for this as is PERL. I found that I could start the process in Assembler, get the basics taken care of like loading ASA characters and clearing the printline and anything else I had to do with dates or anything, then I could branch to sub-routines the get other processes done that I would have to repeat. So I had many small loops inside a large one. That was the only way I could REALLY get a grasp on doing division in Assembler. That was one concept that really threw me for a loop for a little while. At the time I didn't know that there were News Groups just for Assembler programming. Boy could I have made good use of those! -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Deryk Barker wrote: > Thus spake Mark Weaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > Didn't anyone use Assembler back then? I thought that came before > > COBOL? > > Indeed it did. The first high level language in general use was > Backus's FORTRAN, although he himself did not originally envisage it > as being a portable language, rather that every machine would have an > *equivalent*. The first version of FORTRAN (IBM704) had a number of > machine specific features. > > COBOL and LISP both date from around 1959. > > > Personally I love Assembler. > > I believe help is available...:-) > >
[expert] HELP!!! Error when Install Mandrake 7.0.
When I Install ManDrake 7.0 from CDROM, it appears messages like below: Initializing CDROM... in second stage install -X11TransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect : errno = 111 -X11TransSocketUnixConnect: Can't connect : errno = 111 Fri Jul 21 22:19:33 2000 Gtk-WARING ** : cannot Open display :: 0 at /usr/lib/perl-installlmy-gtk.pm line 139 install exited abnormally sending termination signals...done sending kill signals...done unmounting filesystems... /tmp/rhimage /proc you may safely reboot your system Here is my computer: CPU: AMD K6-2-266 Mem: 32M Ram Video Card: Trident Blad 3D Monitor: 15" SVGA, it can be set to 1024*768*32bit under windows95/98 My E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Sarang! ...I'm speechless! Thankyou. I'll be chewing on this for a while. -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Sarang Lakare wrote: > Mark Weaver wrote: > > > > Ok...I'm still a little foggy on this console stuff. I'm only half > > there. So, if my desktop freezes as it has once or twice since I've > > started working with Linux,(about 14 months), and CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE > > doesn't take me out of X, then will CTL-ALT-Fx (x = 1-6) get me there > > without having to do a hardboot and risk filesystem damage? > > depends on how bad the state of kernel is.. sometimes the only solution is > hard-boot. > > Here are some more key strokes : > > Alt-SysReq-r get the kbd in raw mode.. try this if Ctrl-Alt-BS dosn't > work > -s tries to save any unsaved data to disk > -e terminates all processes > -i kills all processes > -u unmounts all filesystems > -b reboots the machine > > The mandrake document says that u're supposed to do this in the given > sequence. > > >No matter how long I use Linux not a day goes by that I don't learn > >something new. > > now you got another day's worth :) > > -sarang > >
Re: [expert] 7.1 Installation problems
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Alan Blundell wrote: > I've just joined this list, so apologies if this has been brought up before > (couldn't find it in the digests ...). > > There _have_ been a few posts about problems with 7.1 installs. I had a > couple myself, which I thought were pretty serious: > > Bad point 2: The installer set up hdb1 '/',(1 to 15453 were the cylinder or > block numbers) > hdb2 (16454 to 1052352 as Linux extended) > hdb5 '/home', (16454 to 2226136) > > This meant that hdb5 was bigger than the extended partition it > was in. Mandrake accessed it without complaint, but Partition > Magic and fdisk weren't happy. I had the identical thing happen to me both in the Mandrake 7.1 and the TurboLinux 6 installs - which caused me no end of grief until I figured it out. > I don't have a problem with any of this now, it's all working nicely, > but there have been a couple of non-specific mentions of partition > problems and I thought this might be helpful. (I wondered if there > was a problem with gnu parted in ther version used by the installer?) -- Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [expert] 7.1 Installation problems
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Anton Graham wrote: > Submitted 25-Jul-00 by Alan Blundell: > > The installer changed hda3 (extended partition containing hda6, 7, > > and windows drive 'D:') to type 85 'Linux Extended') > > I fixed this by changing the partition type to 'extended' (type 5) with > > linux fdisk, which fixed things again, but it had me worried for a while, > > because Windows didn't even recognise the existence of its > > poor old drive 'D:', where I keep all my (office) work. > > This is done decause (a) most Windows converts are using a single FAT32 > partition on large drives, and (b) DOS/Win fdisk will see that as a > single non-DOS partition instead of an extended partition that > contains nothing (Yes, DOS fdisk cannot see linux partitions inside an > extended one). Your solution was the correct one. > > It should, however, recognise existing extended partitions and leave > their type alone. It does but the cylinder problem discrepancy is a bad one and really confusing to newbies such as myself. -- Jeff Malka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Re: [expert] I'll be back
Outlook and Exchange both do POP and SMTP. Exchange has its own MTA and will either handle SMTP independently or it will forward to an SMTP gateway. John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Outlook 2000 DOES do threading. I'm using for this list now. I have to use > > Outlook as my company has standardized on M$ Exchange. > > > Does Exchange not do POP and SMTP? > John
[expert] Parrellel Port Scanners
Hi, I have a Canon CanoScan FB630P (Parrellel Port Scanner) which I am probably dreaming but wish to run in Linux. It happens to be the only thing keeping Windows on my system which is dual booting with LM7.0. If there is anyone out there with information (addresses, downloads or which is the up-to-date graphics/scanner program), please forward it on, so I can get this scanner running. Though if you believe I am heading down an endless track please also tell me, but also send reasons. Thanks, Simon
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Mark Weaver wrote: > > Didn't anyone use Assembler back then? I thought that came before > COBOL? Personally I love Assembler. So much more control, although COBOL > does have it's good points too. > > -- > Mark > Yup, for about 7 years batch & CICS on MVS (big iron), Intel on the PeeCee (under CPM and MPM) and on Motorola (under Apple). Heck, we used a binary editor on the OS executable looking for holes in the code (blocks of addresses that were skipped or jumped over, modify a branch code and insert a binary patch :-)). Also used SuperZap on MVS to binary patch executables that we didn't have the source for, seems someone misplaced it. Best Cokey -- -- Cokey de Percin, DBAEmail: Policy Management Systems Corp. Work - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Columbia, South Carolina Home - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
The Altairs didn't have Assemblers for quite a while. It was about the time that a little company called Microsoft started producing them that I saw the first batch... Cobol predated this due to it's use in Mainframes. Though you could always play with 370 Assembly code... YUK. -JMS |-Original Message- |From: Mark Weaver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 6:28 PM |To: Jose M. Sanchez |Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback | | |Didn't anyone use Assembler back then? I thought that came before |COBOL? Personally I love Assembler. So much more control, although COBOL |does have it's good points too. | |-- |Mark | | ** Registered Linux user # 182496 ** | | | |On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Jose M. Sanchez wrote: | |> How about HAND loading the boot code on the old Altair front panels EVERY |> friggin time you wanted to start the machine via the paper tape loader... |> |> Or having to "role your own" drivers for Kennedy Tape drives for PDP-11's |> because Dec did not support them... |> |> Punch card Job entries, submitted at night, results posted the |next day... |> |> Apple III's running CPM cards... Cyber Cobol... |> |> APL (gasp!) |> |> etc... ah yes the good old days, may they rest in peace. |> |> Now where did I leave my portable MP3 player... |> |> -JMS |> |> |> |> |-Original Message- |> |From: Pj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |> |Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 6:33 PM |> |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |> |Subject: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback |> | |> | |> |From: Using MS-DOS 6.2 (QUE book) 1993 |> | |> |Pg. 140; pgph 5: |> | |> |"Hard disks have changed the most. A number of technology have come and |> |gone as hard disks have steadily gotten larger and faster. |Drives capable |> |of storing more than two gygabytes(two billion bytes) now cost less than |> |$2,500. |> | |> |Who remembers when 10GB cost $10,000? |> | |> |Pj |> | |> |> |
Re: [expert] samba
E$ and F$ this must be a NT system - check your user premissions on that computer. One way past this is that when it prompts you for password use administrator then you have full premission to mount and check the drives. And yes the goto console and su root then run kruiser is usaly more secure but you don't want to give root access to a user - catch 22 On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Sarang Lakare wrote: > > > > Hmm, Based on that I decided to try running kruiser as root before > > changing any permissions. I su'ed and started kruiser from konsole, I > > then logged in with my user name/password and it worked. Is this a > > I could get it to work by setting suid. But I don't know about security > concerns. > > But now I can see onlt C: on the remote machine.. it has 2 more drives > (partitions).. E: and F:.. but I see them as E$ and F$ and can't access > them.. what does this mean? > > -sarang -- Eugene GrimsdellSystem Administrator OSRAM South Africa www.osram.co.za Tel:+27 11 805-1777 Fax:+27 11 405-6695 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Building a new Lm system
At 10:25 PM 7/25/00 -0700, you wrote: >Hi all, > Sridhar, The voice of experience speaks when I say if you do not know the in's and out's of hardware/software, and do not know precisely what you are doing inre to building a Linux box..save yourself a lot of headaches and money; let Tom at motherboardx build it and give you a 3-year warranty too. http://www.motherboardx.com Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] >I am planning to build a new system. >What will be the approx price to assemble a 700+ Mhz system. >I have a choice of buying a complete system from one of the Linux harware >guys or building my own. Which will be cheaper. > >If building my own can i rely on online purchase of components, will it be >cheaper in any way. > >I am looking forward to all your feedback. > >Cheers >Sridhar > > > > > > > > >
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
On Tue, Jul 25, 2000 at 17:39 +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Thanks to all of you for sharing your history :] But that makes me think. > Now we heard all those "old timers". What will we (the youngsters at about > age 20) be telling in 20-30 years? We will be trying to explain what those clumsy boxes were that we used to work on. "Granpa, did you really have to use a device with keys to send commands to a -- how did you say? -- PC?" wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000, Darryl Gibson wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 01:16:33 -0400 > From: Darryl Gibson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback > > Mark Weaver wrote: > > > > Ok...I'm still a little foggy on this console stuff. I'm only half > > there. So, if my desktop freezes as it has once or twice since I've > > started working with Linux,(about 14 months), and CTL-ALT-BACKSPACE > > doesn't take me out of X, then will CTL-ALT-Fx (x = 1-6) get me there > > without having to do a hardboot and risk filesystem damage? > > I try CTL+ALT-Fx first, to see if I can get to a promp, run top, and > kill the offending process first, if that doesn't work, I CTL+ALT-F7 to > get back into Xwindow, and then try CTL+ALT-BACKSPACE. If that doesn't > work, You should trying hitting alt-sysrq-k first, then if that doesn't work, try alt-sysrq-s, then alt-sysrq-b. alt-sysrq-k kills all running processes except init alt-sysrq-s syncs the hd, and alt-sysrq-b reboots elsewise, the the reset switch may work better. > I cross my fingers and close my eyes, and aim my finger between > the OFF switch, and the RESET switch. I've had to do that once in > twelve+ months of using Linux. > > > No matter how long I use Linux not a day goes by that I don't learn > > something new. > > Yes, I could spend the rest of my life playing with this system, but I > need to find someone willing to pay me to do it! > > Darryl > Sig file not loaded due to loose nuts behind the controls. > -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 26
[expert] network administrator
Hello there I am a Windows NT Network Administrator "MCSE" now i would like to extend my skill & go for Linux Administration. now the question is that does my being an Nt administrator help me in any way with Linux.? Also what should i know to be a good Linux Admin ? I heard linux users have to do a lots of programing too do i have to do that as well ? thankyou Faisal
[expert] Nic problem
I was using mandrake 7 normally until i added another NIC now its is not showning it gets detect on kudzu but cant configure it need help quickly .
[expert] Can IP routing slow down startx?
Hello, after connecting my two computers, and configuring them, I have noticed that, while I can ftp and telnet at the maximum speed between the two, something weird happened on the "client", i.e. on the one that should use the other as its Internet Gateway. (Gateway = 192.168.1.1, Client = 192.168.1.2) 1) on the client, route -n gives: Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.1.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG1 0 0 eth0 Please notice the first route: I know it should'nt be there, but I can't figure out how it slipped in: how do I remove it permanently? ( I also said to Linuxconf that the gateway should do IP routing: was it correct?) 2) After networking, starting X on the client takes 5/6 minutes, against 30/40 seconds it took before, and during this time there is ethernet traffic (i.e. the NIC led flashes) every ~10 seconds. After it is started, everything works at the usual speed. Are the two things connected? Why? TIA Ciao Marco Fioretti
Re: [expert] Running an X app from remote host
On 25 Jul 2000, stephen boulet wrote: > Date: 25 Jul 2000 22:14:35 -0700 > From: stephen boulet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [expert] Running an X app from remote host > > I'm trying to run an X app from a remote box locally. > > Here are my steps: > > 1) xhost +remote-host-ip > 2) telnet to remote-host-ip > 3) export DISPLAY = local-host-ip > try it in this form: 3) export DISPLAY = local-host-ip:displaynum or this: 3) export DISPLAY = local-host-ip:0 Also, try to switch to using xauth instead, extract your x-server cookie, copy it over, and add it to the machine the app is running on. Another way is to use ssh x-forwarding, you can use the ssh from www.ssh.com, or openssh, but X-forwarding is broken on Openssh in LM7.1, you must manually do "xauth merge /tmp/ssh-/cookies" where is some random garbage. > Then, when I try running kmail: kmail: cannot connect to X server local-host-ip > > What might I be doing wrong? > > -- Stephen > > -- Regards, Ellick Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jul 25
Re: [expert] Corrupted BeroFTPD rpm
I sometimes get this with securekernel All I usaly do is locate the program dest instalation ie: /usr/local/betro then I look for a /bin or a executable in there and then link it to bin,sbin or so ie: ln -s /usr/local/betro/bin/betroftp /usr/sbin/BETROFTPD On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, Marco Fioretti wrote: > Hello, > > yesterday I connected my two computers, > both running Mandrake 6.1, > in order to ftp some big files from one to the other. > > Networking itself is OK: each machine can ping itself > and the other, both with hostname and IP address. > > I also installed the telnet-server and BeroFTPD rpms. > > I could not telnet nor ftp, however. > Both commands give me a "connection refused" > answer and abort. > > This partly depends from me being sleepy ( I realize > while I write this that inetd was not running...: > how do you start it after boot, BTW? Could I have > missed something else?). > > BeroFTPD, however, seems corrupted: the INSTALL doc > says to modify /etc/inetd.conf pointing the ftp service > to /usr/sbin/BEROFTPD, but there is no such file after > the RPM is installed, just in.ftpd. > > Is that RPM corrupted? If so, where can I find it > compiled for Mandrake 6.1 (For several reasons I cannot > upgrade right now)? > > > TIA, > Marco Fioretti -- Eugene GrimsdellSystem Administrator OSRAM South Africa www.osram.co.za Tel:+27 11 805-1777 Fax:+27 11 405-6695 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Running an X app from remote host
stephen boulet wrote: > > I'm trying to run an X app from a remote box locally. > > Here are my steps: > > 1) xhost +remote-host-ip > 2) telnet to remote-host-ip > 3) export DISPLAY = local-host-ip ^ I think this is the problem, you should have: export DISPLAY = local-host-ip:0 -- Jean-Louis Debert[EMAIL PROTECTED] 74 Annemasse France old Linux fan
[expert] PPPD 'Lag'
I have my linux 'gateway' setup to Dial-on-demand. Works great (well, almost). At the moment, if i try to connect with mIRC from my Windows Workstations, it takes 8-12 seconds before the gateway dials up. Is there any way I can shorten this time, without affect internal network performance? Thx in advance
Re: [expert] samba
> > Hmm, Based on that I decided to try running kruiser as root before > > changing any permissions. I su'ed and started kruiser from konsole, I > > then logged in with my user name/password and it worked. Is this a > > I could get it to work by setting suid. But I don't know about security > concerns. > > But now I can see onlt C: on the remote machine.. it has 2 more drives > (partitions).. E: and F:.. but I see them as E$ and F$ and can't access > them.. what does this mean? Those would be hidden shares on a windows box, meaning you wouldn't see them as shared items from another windows box unless you had administrator name and password; and then you would have to access them by putting the '$' after the share. By default you would have \\computername\admin$ which would put you at the %systemroot%, \\computername\driveletter$ which would put you at that drive letter root and \\computername\print$ which would give access to the printer. I don't have samba experience yet, but I would think that your problem is in the way your linux box is interpreting the other shares - are they actually shared to the rest of your network? Hope that helps, Mike > > -sarang >
Re: [expert] can't open "var/run/news/shlock...." permission denied
Disable cron in startup services ;-) Mike > Hello list, > > I'm running LM 7.1 as a server (samba). > Everey hour I get the following massage as root from root (cron daemon): > > can't open "var/run/news/shlock" permission denied > > Any idea ? > > Thanks > Ante > >
Re: [expert] Nic problem
What type of NIC is it? >> Original Message << On 7/25/00, 9:56:16 AM, "fasi74" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote regarding [expert] Nic problem: > > I was using mandrake 7 normally until i added another NIC now its is not > > showning it gets detect on kudzu but cant configure it need help quickly . > >
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Thus spake Mark Weaver ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Didn't anyone use Assembler back then? I thought that came before > COBOL? Indeed it did. The first high level language in general use was Backus's FORTRAN, although he himself did not originally envisage it as being a portable language, rather that every machine would have an *equivalent*. The first version of FORTRAN (IBM704) had a number of machine specific features. COBOL and LISP both date from around 1959. > Personally I love Assembler. I believe help is available...:-) -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
Thus spake John Aldrich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > honestly I can't begin to imagine writting a program on punch > > cards. seems to me that something like that would take literally forever! > > > I took a class back in the early 80's on how to program in RPG. The > funny thing was, that even though we were using terminals, we still > had punch-card emulators and had to have everything in EXACTLY the > right column and the right "card." Talk about annoying! :-) Well RPG, like COBOL and FORTRAN (and many assemblers) was not free format. -- |Deryk Barker, Computer Science Dept. | Music does not have to be understood| |Camosun College, Victoria, BC, Canada| It has to be listened to. | |email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |phone: +1 250 370 4452 | Hermann Scherchen. |
