RE: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router

2003-11-19 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

You'll need to give us more information in order for us to help you. Can you
be specific as to what happens and when? The more details the better...


David

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Subject: [expert] 9.2 keeps killing my router


I have a belkin 4 port router and for some reason mandrake 9.2 keeps
killing my connection to the net.  what can I do?
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RE: [expert] Powerpack Md5sums

2003-11-18 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

http://www.mandrakeclub.com/article.php?sid=1302

The powerpack ones are at the bottom of the page I believe.

David

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Subject: [expert] Powerpack Md5sums


I need the md5sums for the powerpack edition downloaded from
bittorrent.  Who's got em?

And no I don't care about the theoretically infallible bittorrent
checksums, I just want to check the iso's myself.

LX
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RE: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?

2003-11-17 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

IIRC, the best for Mandrake is to buy a club membership and then use the
download edition

David

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Subject: [expert] Which Mandrake to Buy?


OK,

I have some money, would like to support Mandy as much
as I like using it. I am intending to upgrade an 8.2
machine (not updates for it anymore, even security,
right?), who basic function is running 2 webservers,
(virtual) and as an anonymous ftp server. The anonyftp
files are on a promisetech raid array, hooked with an
adaptec 29160 scsi card.

The download version of 8.2 worked 100% for me. Now
that i was considering purchasing the 9.2, I can see
lots of versions out therePowerpack, Pro-Suite,
Discovery, Corporate Server!!

It is not for home usebut yet don't need all the
business/selling language associated with the
versions...all I need is a Good working Mandrake 9.2,
whereby I can download updates without passwords!! as
I have always done with 8.2. Basically same Freedom,
but not Free ($0.00) We all understand the process
consumes money!

Which one should I go for?

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RE: [expert] Disapearing menu's

2003-11-17 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

I don't see the update yet on my mirror. I'll let you know what happens
after I do



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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:58 PM
To: Expert List
Subject: Re: [expert] Disapearing menu's


On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 19:07, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 04:34, James Sparenberg wrote:
  All,
  
 Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs
  to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde.  Would anyone
  who can check, test and let me know?
  
  James
 
 Update,
 Per my question they are now in Cooker and Vincent is porting the
 patch to 9.2 as we speak.  I'll keep ya'll posted.
 
 James

Just got word that the fix is in updates Would those who have been
fighting this please check and let me know the results?  The problem
seems to have been in kde-libs.

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Re: [expert] Weird automount message

2003-11-17 Thread David Rankin
Thanks Jack, sorry for the lack of initial info. I'm just wondering what the
messages are. Server has been running fine for over 2 years and for some
reason this showed up in my log and I was just curious. I looks like it is
showing up on a daily basis now (well almost a daily basis). Here is the
latest round:

Nov 16 00:50:59 Nemesis automount[24791]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed
Nov 16 00:50:59 Nemesis automount[24792]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed:
Request arguments bad

Nov 16 23:48:18 Nemesis automount[1472]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed
Nov 16 23:48:19 Nemesis automount[1473]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed:
Request arguments bad
Nov 17 01:54:46 Nemesis automount[1717]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed
Nov 17 01:54:46 Nemesis automount[1718]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed:
Request arguments bad


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From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Weird automount message


 are you trying to use automount or trying to figure out what these
 messages are coming from?

 If the former, you've got some config file problems. If the latter, just
 urpme automount.

 On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 06:07, David Rankin wrote:
  Mates,
 
  Has anyone else seen strange automount messages? The messages are as
  follows:
 
  Nov 13 12:28:00 Nemesis automount[15360]: lookup(file): lookup for *
failed
  Nov 13 12:28:00 Nemesis automount[15361]: lookup(yp): lookup for *
failed:
  Request arguments bad
 
  Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[443]: attempting to mount entry
/misc/*
  Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[15675]: lookup(file): lookup for *
failed
  Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[458]: attempting to mount entry /net/*
  Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[15676]: lookup(yp): lookup for *
failed:
  Request arguments bad
 
  This is the first time I've seen something like this. Any thoughts would
be
  appreciated.
 
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Re: [expert] Clean up old logs

2003-11-15 Thread David E. Fox
 My firewall has been up and running for the last 2 years now. While trying =
 to cleanup the partitions I noticed a wholalotta log files from various stu=

Please don't post HTML.

Adrian, isn't logrotate working? Or do you want to clean the stuff up 
now? At any rate, find would do the job:

# find . -type f /var/log -mtime 30 | xargs rm

That gets rid of files modified over 30 days ago.

 Adrian

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Re: [expert] spamassassin?

2003-11-15 Thread David E. Fox
 Is /usr/bin/spamd even still there? And /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf?

Yes to both.

 My thoughts on this are that it's high time that you copied off all of
 your tweaked config files (after going over each one with a fine-toothed

You're right -- I'm procrastinating on this one. I'm just reticent to do 
it because it means going out and getting a bunch more RPMs of things I
already have again.
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[expert] Weird automount message

2003-11-14 Thread David Rankin
Mates,

Has anyone else seen strange automount messages? The messages are as
follows:

Nov 13 12:28:00 Nemesis automount[15360]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed
Nov 13 12:28:00 Nemesis automount[15361]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed:
Request arguments bad

Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[443]: attempting to mount entry /misc/*
Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[15675]: lookup(file): lookup for * failed
Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[458]: attempting to mount entry /net/*
Nov 13 14:39:24 Nemesis automount[15676]: lookup(yp): lookup for * failed:
Request arguments bad

This is the first time I've seen something like this. Any thoughts would be
appreciated.

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RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's

2003-11-14 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Thanks for all your help on this James. I thought I had kdeartwork
installed, but now I'm not so sure. I'll look further into this tonight...

Best regards,

David

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 8:19 PM
To: Expert List
Subject: RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's


On Thu, 2003-11-13 at 13:34, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
 I thought so too (that's what the advisory said they fixed) but I still
only
 get the three - blank screen, mandrake slide show and random. I've run
 update-menus -v and have no available updates listed on my Mandrake Update
 Center. Could I have pulled from a bad mirror? 

Do you have kdearwork installed? Specifically kdeartwork-3.1.3-4mdk
 
 Has anyone else who has performed these updates got their screensavers to
 show up? It's not all that important, but now I'm just curious about what
is
 really going on
 
 
 David
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
 Of Greg Meyer
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:21 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Disappearing menu's
 
 
 On Thursday 13 November 2003 03:45 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
  what about the screensavers? Should they be visible now?
 
 That should be fixed with the existing updates.



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RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's

2003-11-13 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

If we've already run the update-menus, would applying this patch be a valid
test?

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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:35 AM
To: Expert List
Subject: [expert] Disapearing menu's


All,

   Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs
to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde.  Would anyone
who can check, test and let me know?

James




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RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's

2003-11-13 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

what about the screensavers? Should they be visible now?


David

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Of Greg Meyer
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:25 AM
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Subject: Re: [expert] Disappearing menu's


On Thursday 13 November 2003 10:48 am, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
 If we've already run the update-menus, would applying this patch be a
valid
 test?

The patch will prevent you from having to run update-menus in the future.

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 5:35 AM
 To: Expert List
 Subject: [expert] Disapearing menu's


 All,

Just got a Note from Laurent with MDK that he's updated(ing) kdelibs
 to fixe hopefully, the disapearing menu problem in kde.  Would anyone
 who can check, test and let me know?

 James

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RE: [expert] Disappearing menu's

2003-11-13 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

I thought so too (that's what the advisory said they fixed) but I still only
get the three - blank screen, mandrake slide show and random. I've run
update-menus -v and have no available updates listed on my Mandrake Update
Center. Could I have pulled from a bad mirror? 

Has anyone else who has performed these updates got their screensavers to
show up? It's not all that important, but now I'm just curious about what is
really going on


David

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Of Greg Meyer
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 2:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Disappearing menu's


On Thursday 13 November 2003 03:45 pm, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
 what about the screensavers? Should they be visible now?

That should be fixed with the existing updates.
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[expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed

2003-11-11 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Hello all,

Last night, as the last thing I did after setting up a shiny new box, I
updated to all the latest bug and security fixes for 9.2. As a result of my
efforts, KDE's KControl is now totally broken. When I try to launch it, I
get the following spit out to the console:

No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings

After which, Kcontrol comes up without any plugins. A similar error happens
when I try to configure Konqueror:

WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to
Settings/
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filebehavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module fileappearance not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filepreviews not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filetypes not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_behavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_java_js not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_fonts not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module ebrowsing not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmhistory not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cookies not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cache not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module proxy not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmcss not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module crypto not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module useragent not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_plugins not found!


Needless to say, I'm not terribly pleased that a normal bugfix update
totally broke my KDE setup when all I really wanted were some screensavers
:)


Doing a quick Google search turned up the error message, but nothing helpful
about what to do about it. I've rm -rf'd my .kde directory to no use. I seem
to recall (now, not before I started the upgrade) that someone on this list
had a similar problem. Does this ring any bells? Has anyone upgraded and
found themselves dead in the water? If this is a common problem, does
Mandrake know about this? How do I fix it?


Help! I really don't want to reinstall from scratch.


Thanks in advance


David

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RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed

2003-11-11 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Has anything you tried brought them back? I'm totally at a loss.

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:47 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


I complained about this also if you restart X you will notice that the menus
are gone.

-Original Message-
From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed



Hello all,

Last night, as the last thing I did after setting up a shiny new box, I
updated to all the latest bug and security fixes for 9.2. As a result of my
efforts, KDE's KControl is now totally broken. When I try to launch it, I
get the following spit out to the console:

No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings

After which, Kcontrol comes up without any plugins. A similar error happens
when I try to configure Konqueror:

WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to
Settings/
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filebehavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module fileappearance not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filepreviews not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filetypes not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_behavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_java_js not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_fonts not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module ebrowsing not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmhistory not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cookies not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cache not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module proxy not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmcss not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module crypto not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module useragent not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_plugins not found!


Needless to say, I'm not terribly pleased that a normal bugfix update
totally broke my KDE setup when all I really wanted were some screensavers
:)


Doing a quick Google search turned up the error message, but nothing helpful
about what to do about it. I've rm -rf'd my .kde directory to no use. I seem
to recall (now, not before I started the upgrade) that someone on this list
had a similar problem. Does this ring any bells? Has anyone upgraded and
found themselves dead in the water? If this is a common problem, does
Mandrake know about this? How do I fix it?


Help! I really don't want to reinstall from scratch.


Thanks in advance


David



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RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed

2003-11-11 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

OK, I did a rebuild of both the system and the root menus from MenuDrake and
now KControl seems to be working again - except for the fact that I still
don't have screen savers which was the whole reason for the upgrade in the
first place. I'll log into the machine locally tonight and see if the rest
of the KDE environment has returned to normal...

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


Do a rebuild of the menus from menudrake i think it was.

-Original Message-
From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:57 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed



Has anything you tried brought them back? I'm totally at a loss.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:47 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


I complained about this also if you restart X you will notice that the menus
are gone.

-Original Message-
From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed



Hello all,

Last night, as the last thing I did after setting up a shiny new box, I
updated to all the latest bug and security fixes for 9.2. As a result of my
efforts, KDE's KControl is now totally broken. When I try to launch it, I
get the following spit out to the console:

No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings

After which, Kcontrol comes up without any plugins. A similar error happens
when I try to configure Konqueror:

WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to
Settings/
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filebehavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module fileappearance not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filepreviews not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filetypes not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_behavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_java_js not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_fonts not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module ebrowsing not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmhistory not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cookies not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cache not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module proxy not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmcss not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module crypto not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module useragent not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_plugins not found!


Needless to say, I'm not terribly pleased that a normal bugfix update
totally broke my KDE setup when all I really wanted were some screensavers
:)


Doing a quick Google search turned up the error message, but nothing helpful
about what to do about it. I've rm -rf'd my .kde directory to no use. I seem
to recall (now, not before I started the upgrade) that someone on this list
had a similar problem. Does this ring any bells? Has anyone upgraded and
found themselves dead in the water? If this is a common problem, does
Mandrake know about this? How do I fix it?


Help! I really don't want to reinstall from scratch.


Thanks in advance


David





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RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed

2003-11-11 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Who and how to tell? I'm really surprised that this isn't all over the
message boards by now. Am we the only people having this problem, or the
only ones who have done the upgrade? Is anyone from Mandrake following this
list? Vincent?

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:25 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


Tell them to fix this it really is the pitts.. 

-Original Message-
From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:16 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed



OK, I did a rebuild of both the system and the root menus from MenuDrake and
now KControl seems to be working again - except for the fact that I still
don't have screen savers which was the whole reason for the upgrade in the
first place. I'll log into the machine locally tonight and see if the rest
of the KDE environment has returned to normal...

Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:24 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


Do a rebuild of the menus from menudrake i think it was.

-Original Message-
From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:57 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed



Has anything you tried brought them back? I'm totally at a loss.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:47 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


I complained about this also if you restart X you will notice that the menus
are gone.

-Original Message-
From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed



Hello all,

Last night, as the last thing I did after setting up a shiny new box, I
updated to all the latest bug and security fixes for 9.2. As a result of my
efforts, KDE's KControl is now totally broken. When I try to launch it, I
get the following spit out to the console:

No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to Settings

After which, Kcontrol comes up without any plugins. A similar error happens
when I try to configure Konqueror:

WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! Defaulting to
Settings/
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filebehavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module fileappearance not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filepreviews not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module filetypes not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_behavior not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_java_js not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_fonts not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module ebrowsing not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmhistory not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cookies not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module cache not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module proxy not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module kcmcss not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module crypto not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module useragent not found!
kcontrol: ERROR: Module khtml_plugins not found!


Needless to say, I'm not terribly pleased that a normal bugfix update
totally broke my KDE setup when all I really wanted were some screensavers
:)


Doing a quick Google search turned up the error message, but nothing helpful
about what to do about it. I've rm -rf'd my .kde directory to no use. I seem
to recall (now, not before I started the upgrade) that someone on this list
had a similar problem. Does this ring any bells? Has anyone upgraded and
found themselves dead in the water? If this is a common problem, does
Mandrake know about this? How do I fix it?


Help! I really don't want to reinstall from scratch.


Thanks in advance


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RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed

2003-11-11 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Thanks James!


Now the question is, do I trust the update to the update when it was an
update that forced me to update again in the first place? :)

Vincent, if you are watching this, could you also have the package
maintainers fix the screensavers problem for good while they're at it?
That's the whole reason I got into this mess in the first place. I would
like screen savers to show up in KControl.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 4:39 PM
To: Expert List
Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed


On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 11:32, Lawson, Jim wrote:
 I think the others are more of an expert than me so they really don't care
 since they can fix most problems ASAP.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: James Sparenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 2:08 PM
 To: Expert List
 Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed
 
 
 On Tue, 2003-11-11 at 10:24, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
  Who and how to tell? I'm really surprised that this isn't all over the
  message boards by now. Am we the only people having this problem, or the
  only ones who have done the upgrade? Is anyone from Mandrake following
 this
  list? Vincent?
  
  David

David,

Just talked with Vincent via e-mail on this and he's forwarding
things up the line to the package maintainers.  He agrees that this one
is a lot more serious than initially thought and they are on it.  

James

  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:25 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed
  
  
  Tell them to fix this it really is the pitts.. 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:16 PM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed
  
  
  
  OK, I did a rebuild of both the system and the root menus from MenuDrake
 and
  now KControl seems to be working again - except for the fact that I
still
  don't have screen savers which was the whole reason for the upgrade in
the
  first place. I'll log into the machine locally tonight and see if the
rest
  of the KDE environment has returned to normal...
  
  Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it.
  
  David
 
 The who to tell is bugs.mandrake.com.  The Anthill bug reporting system
 is getting listened too so it would be a first stop for sure.
 
 The cure for lost menu's 
 
 First verify that /etc/menu/menudrakeentry looks something like.
 
 ?package(menu): needs=kde icon=applications_section.png section=/
 title=.hidden charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): command=superkaramba needs=x11 icon=Cola.xpm
 section=Configuration/Other/ title=Super Karamba
 charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=/ title=Exit charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/ title=Window Maker charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Appearance charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/ title=Background
 charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Gradient
 charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Images
 charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/Appearance/Background/ title=Solid
 charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Information charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Selection charset=ISO-8859-1
 ?package(menu): needs=wmaker icon=applications_section.png
 section=Session/Window Maker/ title=Workspace charset=ISO-8859-1
 
 Note the title lines if they are  instead of whatever things go bad.
 Anything you put in will get stuff back. 
 
 Then as the user (not root) do either update-menus, or if you want to
 see the output update-menus -v 
 
 James
 
  
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Lawson, Jim
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:24 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [expert] KControl broken after 9.2 update completed
  
  
  Do a rebuild of the menus from menudrake i think it was.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:57 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED

[expert] Help - my box has been compromised!

2003-11-05 Thread David E. Fox

Folks - especially postfix people - I need some help - 
my box seems to have been turned into an open relay. I am
running the same postfix configuration file I had installed 
when I was running 9.0 and later versions (currently I 
am running 9.2/cooker)..


I have not been able to post to the list or send out any
smtp email until I fix this and in the meantime have
simply flushed (deleted) the outgoing queue in /var/spool
/postfix via 

  # find . /var/spool/postfix -type -f | xargs exec rm

which (quickly) removes it. I removed many megabytes' worth
of stuck email this way earlier today only to find that at
9 pm there was 4 megs more waiting and my isp admin had sent
me a mail saying he disabled my smtp.


I was under the impression postfix was relay proof - any
advice will be helpful...

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Re: [expert] Help - my box has been compromised!

2003-11-05 Thread David Guntner
Lyvim Xaphir grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 00:18, David E. Fox wrote:
  
  I was under the impression postfix was relay proof - any
  advice will be helpful...

It pretty much is, as long as you didn't break something mucking around 
with the configuration files.  Out of the box, it has relaying turned 
off.  You have to do things to it in order to open it up.  Check your 
config files.

 My advice, which again will look like a cop-out, but in actuality is
 very serious, is that you switch to qmail.  Vincent Danen, rpmhelp.net

Oh yea, qmail is great.  If you happen to like pain.

--Dave

(And yes, I've administered sites running qmail.  I'll take postfix every 
time.)
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[expert] help - my box might be a relay

2003-11-04 Thread David E. Fox
hey - help!

it's seemingly apparent that in the last week or two there seems to
be an increasing number of mails of a dubious nature being sent to
a large number of bogus addresses by yours truly  :(.

I'm not a spammer but it seems that my mailing system (postfix) is
misconfigured -- but I was under the impression that postfix was
relay-proof. I have seen evidence though of some chinese sites 
masquerading as m206-157.dsl.tsoft.com, probably forging headers
somewhere along the line. It further seems that mail is injected here
and then attempts are made to send the sh*t off to other places.

I have not gotten any complaints but as of now 22:30pm pst 11/4 there is
approximately 2.3 megabytes' worth of mail trying to get out.

1) I want to simply remove these messages. How do I do this? I have not yet
come across a queue removal program - like lprm - for mail. Can (or should)
I just delete all the files underneath /var/spool/postfix/{defer,etc,deferred,
etc} - i.e, keep the directory structure intact but do somehting like

find /var/spool/postfix -type f | xargs grep rm

Is that dangerous?

Secondly, using a fairly stock configuration for postfix, is there some-
thing I've missed? I can attach my configuration if needed. I have 
basically kept the same one intact since I initially reinstalled 9.0
and upgraded to various levels of cooker over the past few months.

HELP ;)


David E. Fox  Thanks for letting me
[EMAIL PROTECTED]change magnetic patterns
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   on your hard disk.
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RE: [expert] Macros and OO

2003-10-30 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

OO.o 1.1 has a macro recorder. Probably the easiest way to recreate the
macros is to figure out how to do the steps in OO.o and then record the
macro using the tool.


HTH

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Praedor Atrebates
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 8:46 AM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Macros and OO


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

This isn't specific to Mandrake in any way, but I was hoping someone could 
point me to a good site that might explain how to setup macros in
OpenOffice?

I get to handle purchasing in my lab.  This system (on a Mac) uses an
excel 
database filled with scientific products/chemicals, etc, and an order form.

There are macros setup so that one can select a row in the database for 
product X and enter it into the order form.

I copied this database/form to my laptop running Mandrake with OpenOffice
and 
imported it.  All is well except, of course, all the M$ macros didn't 
transfer and, thus, if I desire to be able to handle these orders from my 
laptop I need to duplicate the macros in OpenOffice 1.5.  I have NEVER done 
macros, in M$ Word, excel, etc, nor in OO.  I don't even know where to
begin.  
The tentative steps I've taken to try to figure it out have been hopeless 
thus far.  Any really good HOWTOs on this?

praedor
- -- 
Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full
sail 
for a rock.  The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in 
full view if they look the right way.
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[expert] TV card recommendations

2003-10-27 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Well, this may be a post better sent to the newbie lists but since I've come
to respect the posters on this list, please allow me a little latitude to
ask people who's opinion I value a simple question :)

My wife wants a TV card for Christmas so she can take videos off of our
analog camcorder and store them on our fileserver/webserver. I am *totally*
clueless about tv cards (not watching much tv will do that to you) but I
know getting one of these contraptions is very important to her since we
have kids on the way.

Can anyone recommend a good tv card that Mandrake 9.2 (she'll be upgrading
soon) works out of the box with please? If so, I'd much appreciate it!


Thanks in advance


David

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Re: [expert] 9.2 made slashdot

2003-10-25 Thread David Guntner
KevinO grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/10/25/1737244

I get Page cannot be displayed.

  --Dave


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RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

It's OK to use bittorrent to download the powerpack if you're a silver
member or above of MandrakeClub. That's how I got my copy.

David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gonzalo
Avaria
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions


On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:36, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 If there is something on the Download that's not in Powerpack, or some
 other reason I might need Download, then I need to get started
 downloading as Bittorrent is going to keep me occupied for another
 week.  I want to go ahead and serve my time in bittorrent prison if I
 need to.

And you are using a P2P to download a pay distro??? I don´t think that´s 
correct to ask here... 
Sorry but don´t like this kind of posting.

-- 
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Linux User from the end of the World
CHILE

Registered User #329224 (counter.li.org)
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RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions

2003-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Mostly proprietary drivers and what not that are installed automagically. I
think it includes stuff like Flash and RealPlayer as well


David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Coates
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 2:09 PM
To: Mandrake Expert List
Subject: RE: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions


cool! What's in powerpack that isn't in download?


On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 12:57, JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1) wrote:
 It's OK to use bittorrent to download the powerpack if you're a silver
 member or above of MandrakeClub. That's how I got my copy.
 
 David
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gonzalo
 Avaria
 Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 10:54 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] Download and Powerpack editions
 
 
 On Thursday 23 October 2003 19:36, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
  If there is something on the Download that's not in Powerpack, or some
  other reason I might need Download, then I need to get started
  downloading as Bittorrent is going to keep me occupied for another
  week.  I want to go ahead and serve my time in bittorrent prison if I
  need to.
 
 And you are using a P2P to download a pay distro??? I don´t think that´s 
 correct to ask here... 
 Sorry but don´t like this kind of posting.
-- 
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RE: [expert] KDevelop Help

2003-10-23 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

I can't help with the RPM stuff, but you might find info on the KDevelop/SDL
interaction at the following URL:

http://www.geekcomix.com/snh/files/docs/sdl-kdev/sdl-kdev-mini-how2.htmlP


David

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Theo Brinkman
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 3:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] KDevelop Help


I'm trying to get KDevelop completely set up for some development, but I'm
having some problems.

First, I can't seem to find some of the files it wants for various optional
stuff like help, and project documentation.  I'm looking for where to find
RPMs that include the following:

KDELibs-Doc
sgml2html
kdoc
Glimpse
Glimpseindex

Second, I can't seem to figure out how to get a project using SDL to
compile.  It's a *very* basic project at this point, and I'm getting
undefined references for all of the SDL_* function calls.  I'm pretty sure
it's just a matter of figuring out how to tell it to use the libraries, but
I can't figure out where/how to do it.  (If you need to see the source 
messages, just ask.)

Thanks
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Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?

2003-10-23 Thread David Rankin
Brian,

I could have told you you were right a long time ago. I used to backup
at night using a script what would smbmount a M$ box drive to dump my backup
nightly until CDs were burned at the end of the week. One night following a
thunder storm, smbmount failed and the quick script wasn't checking for a
successful mount (i.e. no if (smbmount etc...) then...) so I ended filling
up the /mnt/tripod directory on my server with about 600 megs of stuff from
/home that I thought had been sent to the M$ box via /mnt/tripod. Talk about
confusing. mount /mnt/tripod then ls /mnt/tripod returned the same thing as
umount /mnt/tripod and ls /mnt/tripod. It took a few posts, but some soul
was kind enough to finally figure out hey idiot, your smbmount failed and
you filled up /mnt/tripod with what you thought was going to your M$ drive.
So a quick umount /mnt/tripos then rm -f /mnt/tripod followed by a fresh
smbmount /mnt/tripod was all it took.

In short, just a long way of saying you got it right!

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- Original Message - 
From: Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Increading /mnt/cdrom size?


 On Thursday 23 October 2003 05:20 pm, deedee wrote:
  On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:53:26 -0400, Bryan Phinney wrote:
   Actually, he is quite correct.  /mnt/cdrom is a directory located off
   of /mnt which in turn is located off of /.
 
  I believe you are confusing how a directory tree is set up to interface
  with you as a user in order to help you find your files with the actual
  devices where files are being stored.

 No, I am clearly stating that the directory that is used as a mount point
for
 the cdrom device is an actual directory and can exist independent of the
 device that is associated to it by the mount command up until the mount
 command redirects the mount point to point to the device file instead of a
 directory on the file system.  If you simply go out and look at it
yourself,
 you will see that until the mount command is issued for a cdrom, there is
 clearly a directory present on the root drive in the /mnt folder that you
can
 access with absolutely no disc mounted in the cdrom drive.  For that
matter,
 I can simply enough create a directory directly under root called cdrom
and
 alter the fstab with a simply edit and any cdroms mounted on the drive
will
 then be mounted in the directory cdrom off of the root drive.

 I accept that after I mount the drive, I am no longer hitting the
directory in
 the filesystem when I access the cdrom, but up until I mount the media, I
am.

  Check your /etc/fstab. That defines your file system table and says
  where the directories in your directory tree are really located.

 Actually, no.  fstab merely designates the device file and mount point for
 devices when the mount command is issued.  Much like a mapped network
drive
 in NFS, the actual directory that is used for the mount point actually
exists
 prior to remapping the location to point to the network resource and does
not
 actually point to the device until the mount command points the directory
to
 the device.

   Experiment:  As root, with no cd mounted, cp a file to /mnt/cdrom and
   you will note that the file is copied and then exists in /mnt/cdrom.
 
  It actually exists in memory.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt]# ls -l
 total 9
 drwxr-xr-x2 root root   48 Oct 23 17:49 cdrom/
 drwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Oct 22 19:13 floppy/
 dr-x--1 root root 8192 Oct 20 18:31 winxp/

 Doesn't look like memory to me

  I don't want to get into a fruitless debate about this. I know it is a
  difficult concept. I'm only responding because I believe you are asking
  for problems if you treat all the places on the directory
  tree/interface as if they are actually all places on your hard drive.

 Neither do I.  Why don't we agree to accept an answer from a disinterested
 third party.

 Linux does not have different letters for the drives. Linux integrates
 floppy, hard disk, CD-ROM ... (the common name for all of them is
devices)
 into the directory tree. You simply plug the device in a subdirectory.
The
 default directory for mounting removable media devices is /mnt/. There you
 create the subdirectories for all devices (e.g. /mnt/zip for the
zip-drive),
 /mnt/windows/ for the WINDOWS partition. For the CD-ROM the directory
/cdrom
 is as common as /mnt/cdrom/. Any needed directories can be created with
 mkdir.
 To access the CD-ROM drive you have to register it in the system. This
happens
 with the command mount

 You can access the entire page at:
 http://www.linuxnetmag.com/en/issue3/m3mount1.html

 The blurb clearly states that mounting a device simply 'plug'[s] the
device
 in a subdirectory  that is either already created or is created when you
 issue

Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses

2003-10-22 Thread David Rankin
probably bugbear.b or a variant

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- Original Message - 
From: rikona [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Anne Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] RANT: vicious viruses


 Hello Anne,

 Tuesday, October 21, 2003, 12:56:06 PM, you wrote:

 AW That's what puzzles me.  She would never open an executable.  She
 AW would never agree to running one.  Java and javascript are
 AW disabled  for mail.  She is set to read and write plain text.
 AW Still they have  managed to do damage.

 The more you write, the more it looks as though it is not an email
 problem.

 AW At first I thought is was coincidence, but  since the same files
 AW have to be replaced every time it happens I no  longer believe
 AW that.

 Is it possible that the real problem has not been removed, and is
 still lurking on the machine? She might have multiple problems. It is
 not at all unusual in Win computers that are not locked down very
 tight.

 AW I'm thankful that at least she is not  contributing to the spread
 AW of viruses, but I can't understand how  they are doing this
 AW damage.

 If her address book has entries, don't be too sure. :-))

 -- 

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Re: [expert] Install issues with 9.2

2003-10-22 Thread David Rankin
 Oy Greg,
 Have some mercy on the poor sods that find typing e:\install.bat a CLI
 experience...the man's right; a warning is called for, so as not to
put
 off real Newb's too much. They are the targeted consumer group, aren't
they?

There can be no doubt. That's the only plausable explanation for not
including the kernel souce.

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- Original Message - 
From: H.J.Bathoorn [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Install issues with 9.2


 On Wednesday 22 October 2003 23:15, Greg Meyer wrote:
  On Wednesday 22 October 2003 04:58 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Hi folks,
  
   I downloaded the 9.2 Powerpack CD's, and went on an adventure.
  
   Well, 9.2 has several annoying install issues especially with a broken
   KDE install.
   For example:
 -consoles don't get installed properly
 
  What exactly do you mean.  The menu entries for alternative consoles
will
  no longer show up, for instance gnome-terminal will no longer show up in
  KDE and Konsole will not show up in GNOME.  This is not a bug but a
design
  choice. If you want them, you have to add them yourself.
 
  Also, when you find your KDE menus disappearing, that is not a bug in
KDE,
  but a bug in RPM.  Just run update-menus -v as root to restore them.
 
 -old nvidia video drivers don't get overwritten with the new one
 for 9.2 kernel, when you do an upgrade from 9.1
   - and more
 
  They never will as the nvidia modules are related to a kernel, not the
  distribution.  You have to reinstall them for each kernel you are
running.
 
   I think the official 9.2 release should be delayed a little for these
   things to get fixed. Experienced
   users should have no problems fixing these install isues, but for new
   users it would be a big dissapointment.
 
  Unfortunately, it is too late.  FiveStar has been sent to the
manufacturer.

 Oy Greg,
 Have some mercy on the poor sods that find typing e:\install.bat a CLI
 experience...the man's right; a warning is called for, so as not to
put
 off real Newb's too much. They are the targeted consumer group, aren't
they?

 Good luck,
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Re: [expert] What is this garbage?

2003-10-20 Thread David Rankin
No, no praedor, viagra has nothing to do with procmail. It was coded to
solve a different problem.

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- Original Message - 
From: Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] What is this garbage?


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Thank you.  Unfortunately, for some reason it isn't working.  These messages
are coming into my inbox from my fetchmail-daemon (From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) and for whatever reason it appears
that they are sidestepping procmail.  I added the entry you indicated and am
still getting them into my local inbox.

Perhaps a recipe for procmail to check the body of the message for the IP
address and any mention of viagra?  If so, how does one do this with
procmail?

praedor

On Sunday 19 October 2003 11:43 am, Todd Lyons wrote:
 Praedor Atrebates wanted us to know:
 Received: from 24.61.30.135  (HELO 67.164.237.213) (24.61.30.135)
   by mta154.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2003 22:52:58 -0700
 
 OK, so how might I setup procmailrc to have any/all messages from this IP
  be dumped into /dev/null?  Since sending my message to the list, I have
  received 8 more of these damn things in my trash folder.
 
 :0

 * ^Received.*24\.61\.30\.135
 /dev/null

 Note that I used :0 instead of :0:.  The trailing colon defines locking
 options and since it's going to /dev/null, no need to worry about it.

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Re: [expert] Help please! Cannot stop this spam

2003-10-20 Thread David Guntner
Praedor Atrebates grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 I have logged directly into my popmail server (yahoo) via the web and find 
 that the spam message isn't being repeatedly sent - the same message is 
 causing a problem over and over.  Yahoo tagged it as spam and put it in my 
 bulk mail folder on their site.  When fetchmail retrieved messages, it would 
 apparently have problems with that message and send me the error message 
 email instead of the actual spam.  
 
 I am not sure why...is there a way to fix fetchmail so it wont do this 
 anymore?  Instead of having a problem with a message and sending me a 
 bazillion error messages every time it sees the undelivered/undeliverable 
 message/spam, can I not just set fetchmail to dump the message?  

Yes, if fetchmail sees an error from your local MTA, it tends to not delete 
the message from the remote site, because it thinks there's a problem.  You 
*can* tell it what a spam reject on your local MTA is, however.

For example, I've got a few checks at the postfix level that will reject a 
detected spam message before it ever *gets* to the user's mailbox.  As 
such, spamassassin isn't coming into play yet.  Spam that it detects, it 
rejects with a 550 error code.  You can tell fetchmail that a given error 
code (or range of codes) is a spam reject and to not attempt redelivery 
(I.E., it will go ahead and delete the message from the remote server).  
Here's what I have in my .fetchmailrc to do this:

set postmaster postmaster
set bouncemail
set no spambounce
set properties 
poll remote host with proto IMAP
   user 'blah' there with password 'blah' is 'blah' here
antispam 550


That last line (antispam 550) tells it that a 550 code coming from 
postfix on my machine is a spam reject.  It will then quietly delete the 
message from the far end as though it had delivered it.  Try putting in the 
reject code that you're seeing at your end from your local 
postfix/qmail/sendmail daemon, and see if that helps.

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Re: [expert] Help please! Cannot stop this spam

2003-10-20 Thread David Guntner
Bryan Phinney grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 The fetchmail log should be telling you what the error code is from Postfix 
 but if I had to guess, I would say it is a 501, fetchmail normally counts 55? 
 codes as spam rejects by default.

Not on *my* system, it didn't. :-)  I had to put it in to cause fetchmail 
to behave itself when running into those.

 Line should show:
 
 poll mail.whatever.com with proto whatever
   user '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' there with password 'password' is 'localuser' here
   antispam 554,550,501

Just a note for anyone reading:  The user part above is for how you 
normally login to your POP or IMAP server to retrieve your mail.  If you're 
using an ISP that has a login method of using your E-Mail address with 
them, then [EMAIL PROTECTED] is correct.  If you're using a server that just 
requires a username, *don't* add the @domain.com part (I.E. don't use your 
address to login unless your provider requres that as your login).

 Add that line and you should no longer see those errors or have misconfigured 
 spam piling up in your inbox.  Only other way that I know of is to run 
 Fetchmail configured to flush the box which removes all messages that were 
 seen but no delivered.  This is dangerous and could result in your losing 
 messages due to Postfix being down when fetchmail tries to pick up mail.  
 Another option is to periodically run fetchmail to pick up mail, then reload 
 fetchmail in flush mode to flush misconfigured messages, then rerun fetchmail 
 in normal mode.  You could do this once a week but in the meantime would get 
 all those errors in your syslog.  Last option is to simply bitbucket all 
 fetchmail-daemon notifications with procmail.

That last option is kinda dangerous, though. :-)  If you got other 
fetchmail errors, you would never know about them  (Not saying don't do 
it if it's really needed, just be aware... :)

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RE: [expert] Any way to alter konqueror's default window size?

2003-10-16 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Congrats on your new monitor!

Under the settings menu is an option called Save View Profile something

Make the window the size you want it and then select that setting. Now
select the checkbox that says save window size in profile and hit save.
You're done!


David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Praedor Atrebates
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:23 PM
To: Mandrake Expert
Subject: [expert] Any way to alter konqueror's default window size?


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I recently bought a big, flat-screen monitor which has an optimal resolution

of 1280 x 1024.  At this resolution, konqueror's default window size is a
bit 
smallish and, unfortunately and unlike konsole, resizing it manually to a 
certain size is not remembered for subsequent openings.

Is there a way to increase the default window size of konqueror?  

praedor
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Re: [expert] refresh rate

2003-10-13 Thread David Rankin
Take a look at:

Name
xvidtune - video mode tuner for XFree86
Synopsis
xvidtune [ -prev | -next | -unlock | ] ] [ -toolkitoption ... ]
Description
Xvidtune is a client interface to the XFree86 X server video mode extension
(XFree86-VidModeExtension).
When given one of the non-toolkit options, xvidtune provides a command line
interface to either switch the video mode.

Without any options (or with only toolkit options) it presents the user with
various buttons and sliders that can be used to interactively adjust
existing video modes. It will also print the settings in a format suitable
for inclusion in an XF86Config file.

Normally the XFree86 X servers only allow changes to be made with the
XFree86-VidModeExtension from clients connected via a local connection type.

Note: The original mode settings can be restored by pressing the `R' key,
and this can be used to restore a stable screen in situations where the
screen becomes unreadable.



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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] refresh rate


 On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:16, Richard Urwin wrote:
  On Monday 13 Oct 2003 5:21 pm, Larry Sword wrote:
   HaywireMac wrote:
   On Mon, 13 Oct 2003 09:22:58 -0700
   
   Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
   is there a pointy-clicky way to change monitor refresh rates?  I'm
not
   in a big hurry to go messing with modlines.
  
   As a side note.In the Knoppix V3.3 within the KDE there is a Display
   setting where you can set the monitor and the refresh rates. It's
really
   nice. sure wish Mandrake would include such.
 
  If Knoppix can do it, MDK should be able to. Maybe its an uninstalled
KDE
  add-on. Unless it's a later version of KDE. Does someone want to go
research
  it? At least three people have asked recently, and its dead easy with
  Windows, so its a big lossage for Linux.

 looks like it's some sort of wrapper around xrandr... using that utility
 shows that both monitors are set at 85Hz, which ain't bad. So my crawly
 dim lines are probably caused by interference since the monitors are
 side by side. Maybe they need an AFDB :-) That would explain why there
 wasn't a problem when one of the machines ran XP, since it probably had
 a different refresh rate.

 BTW, there's a Modeline generator here:
 http://xtiming.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/xtiming.pl
 which doesn't work for me, but might for someone.
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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-08 Thread David Rankin
Worse comes to worse, try:

# vi /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd

service ftp
{
disable = yes
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server  = /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
server_args = -l -a
log_on_success  += DURATION USERID
log_on_failure  += USERID
nice= 10
}

** Change disable to = no

Then

# /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart

ftp away.

THEN DISABLE wu-ftpd and restart xinetd. You don't want to leave wu-ftpd up.

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From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:12 AM
Subject: [expert] All I want to do is FTP


 I finally got my 9.1 Mandrake working wonderfully as a server.  All my
 virtual web pages work wonderfully.. and now I am ready to open an FTP
 connection so I can finish uploading a ton of files from a different
 computer.

 Only problem is, I don't know how to get FTP to work in this version.

 I've downloaded PROFTPD and tried to get that to work, but after a few
 questions to the PROFTPD mail list, and a few days of searching Google for
 help, and reading the PROFTPD faq, I still can't FTP to my new server.
 The people on the PROFTPD mail list won't even reply to my questions.

 Should I even be using PROFTP?  What can I do, if even for a basic FTP
 setup, to get FTP to work on my server?  I'll be glad to remove PROFTPD
 and use whatever works.

 Any suggestions will be happily appreciated.

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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request: Resolved

2003-10-08 Thread David Guntner
Praedor Atrebates grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 Thanks all, I have it working in a desireable fashion now.

 I am once again using fetchmail + postfix and, now, spamassassin to deal
 with my incoming mail.  Procmail is properly directing a subset of my mail
 to my mailbox directly and passing the rest through spamassassin - and a
 30+ second delay for spamassassin processing isn't a problem.  Procmail is
 also /dev/nulling all emails identified as spam so I never have to see any
 of it.  Nice.

 A new question now.  Fetchmail gave me a bit of a fit at first.  I ran
 fetchmailconf as user and then ran fetchmail as user and this was fine,
 except I'd rather not have to start fetchmail myself every time I start my
 laptop up - I'd rather have it run as a daemon.  I DID get the fetchmail
 daemon working eventually, but only after manually editing
 /etc/fetchmailrc.
 As root or user, all running fetchmailconf would do is create a
 ~/.fetchmailrc file while daemon mode requires /etc/fetchmailrc.  I tried
 doing it from webmin as well to no avail.  In the end, I copied my
 ~/.fetchmailrc file to /etc/fetchmailrc so that I could run the fetchmail
 daemon.  How does one normally setup the daemon instead of running
 personal instances of fetchmail, that is, how is /etc/fetchmailrc normally
 created?  I am assuming that I should not have to do what I did above and
 copy my personal .fetchmailrc to /etc/fetchmailrc.


From the man page for fetchmail:

 The  --daemon interval or -d interval option runs fetchmail in dae-
 mon mode.  You must specify a  numeric  argument  which  is  a 
polling  interval in seconds.

 In  daemon  mode, fetchmail puts itself in background and runs forever,
 querying each specified host and then sleeping for  the  given  polling
 interval.

 Simply invoking

fetchmail -d 900

 will,  therefore,  poll  all the hosts described in your ~/.fetchmailrc
 file (except those explicitly excluded with the `skip' verb) once every
 fifteen minutes.

 It is possible to set a polling interval in your ~/.fetchmailrc file by
 saying `set daemon interval', where interval is an  integer  number
 of seconds.  If you do this, fetchmail will always start in daemon mode
 unless you override it with the command-line option --daemon 0 or  -d0.

 Only  one  daemon process is permitted per user; in daemon mode, fetch-
 mail makes a per-user lockfile to guarantee this.

 Normally, calling fetchmail with a daemon in  the  background  sends  a
 wakeup  signal  to  the  daemon, forcing it to poll mailservers immedi-
 ately.  (The wakeup signal is SIGHUP if fetchmail is running  as  root,
 SIGUSR1  otherwise.)   The wakeup action also clears any `wedged' flags
 indicating that connections have wedged due to failed authentication or
 multiple timeouts.

 The  option --quit will kill a running daemon process instead of waking
 it up (if there is no such process, fetchmail notifies  you).   If  the
 --quit  option  is the only command-line option, that's all there is to
 it.

 The quit option may also be mixed with other command-line options;  its
 effect  is  to  kill  any  running  daemon  before doing what the other
 options specify in combination with the rc file.


Of course, if you're the only user, you can also setup a cron job for
yourself to poll every 5 minutes or whatever, by simply running fetchmail
from cron.

HTH.

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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-08 Thread David Rankin
Good point, but it presupposes that the other comuputer is a Linux box and
not some inferrior breed that doesn't understand scp ;-)

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From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:16 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP


 you know what I do when I want to transfer a big bunch of files?
 scp -r big-buncha-files [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new/home/of/files

 You can also use:

 scp -r [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/big/buncha/files /new/home/of/files

 It's a little more CPU-intensive than FTP'ing them, but who cares? It's
 also a lot easier than installing a temporary FTP server, especially
 since you've probably already got sshd up and running on at least one of
 the boxes.

 IMHO the FTP protocol is dying the slow and painful death that it so
 richly deserves. It won't be missed.

 Jack

 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 07:27, David Rankin wrote:
  Worse comes to worse, try:
 
  # vi /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd
 
  service ftp
  {
  disable = yes
  socket_type = stream
  wait= no
  user= root
  server  = /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
  server_args = -l -a
  log_on_success  += DURATION USERID
  log_on_failure  += USERID
  nice= 10
  }
 
  ** Change disable to = no
 
  Then
 
  # /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart
 
  ftp away.
 
  THEN DISABLE wu-ftpd and restart xinetd. You don't want to leave wu-ftpd
up.
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:12 AM
  Subject: [expert] All I want to do is FTP
 
 
   I finally got my 9.1 Mandrake working wonderfully as a server.  All my
   virtual web pages work wonderfully.. and now I am ready to open an FTP
   connection so I can finish uploading a ton of files from a different
   computer.
  
   Only problem is, I don't know how to get FTP to work in this version.
  
   I've downloaded PROFTPD and tried to get that to work, but after a few
   questions to the PROFTPD mail list, and a few days of searching Google
for
   help, and reading the PROFTPD faq, I still can't FTP to my new server.
   The people on the PROFTPD mail list won't even reply to my questions.
  
   Should I even be using PROFTP?  What can I do, if even for a basic FTP
   setup, to get FTP to work on my server?  I'll be glad to remove
PROFTPD
   and use whatever works.
  
   Any suggestions will be happily appreciated.
  
   James
  
  
 
 

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Re: [expert] Spamassassin help request: Resolved

2003-10-08 Thread David Guntner
Praedor Atrebates grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 Thanks for the reply but the problem was:

 I had a ~/.fetchmailrc.  It worked so long as I started fetchmail myself.
 If I tried to start fetchmail thus (as root) /etc/init.d/fetchmail start
 or if I started up MCC and then tried to start fetchmail from xservices I
 got the same result:  failure.  In my logs I would get a message that
 there was no mailserver specified.   I DID have a mailserver specified in
 my .fetchmailrc. I then opened up webmin and saw my personal fetchmail
 entry there yet fetchmail service would not start for lack of a
 mailserver to poll.

 Only after I copied my personal .fetchmailrc to /etc/fetchmailrc could I
 start fetchmail as a daemon in xservices and have it run properly at each
 startup.  It didn't seem to care at all that I actually did have a valid
 ~/.fetchmailrc file and that it did contain a valid mailserver.  This is
 why I asked the original question about how to get /etc/fetchmailrc setup
 instead of ~/.fetchmailrc (the latter wasn't working).

 - From your reply, I assume I should never have received the error I
 received - that fetchmail should have started up as a daemon without
 problem and simply used my personal .fetchmailrc.  But it didn't.

Ok, my goof.  That's what I get for trying to help when I've just woken
up. :-)

Bryon posted a message about how to point your fetchmail daemon to the rc
file of your choice, you can use that.  Or as I mentioned, you can start
it from a cron job that runs every 5 minutes to have it poll your server
that often.  Since it would be running as you, it would be no different
than if you started it yourself from a shell prompt.

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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-08 Thread David Rankin
Nope, won't work over the net. To do it would require a pptpd vpn connection
on top of samba.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP


 samba then?
 Mount a linux filesystem via samba to the inferrior
 breed.

 Richard


 --- David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Good point, but it presupposes that the other
  comuputer is a Linux box and
  not some inferrior breed that doesn't understand scp
  ;-)
 
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  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Mandrake Expert List
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:16 AM
  Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP
 
 
   you know what I do when I want to transfer a big
  bunch of files?
   scp -r big-buncha-files
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new/home/of/files
  
   You can also use:
  
   scp -r [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/big/buncha/files
  /new/home/of/files
  
   It's a little more CPU-intensive than FTP'ing
  them, but who cares? It's
   also a lot easier than installing a temporary FTP
  server, especially
   since you've probably already got sshd up and
  running on at least one of
   the boxes.
  
   IMHO the FTP protocol is dying the slow and
  painful death that it so
   richly deserves. It won't be missed.
  
   Jack
  
   On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 07:27, David Rankin wrote:
Worse comes to worse, try:
   
# vi /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd
   
service ftp
{
disable = yes
socket_type = stream
wait= no
user= root
server  =
  /usr/sbin/in.ftpd
server_args = -l -a
log_on_success  += DURATION
  USERID
log_on_failure  += USERID
nice= 10
}
   
** Change disable to = no
   
Then
   
# /etc/rc.d/init.d/xinetd restart
   
ftp away.
   
THEN DISABLE wu-ftpd and restart xinetd. You
  don't want to leave wu-ftpd
  up.
   
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- Original Message - 
From: James [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:12 AM
Subject: [expert] All I want to do is FTP
   
   
 I finally got my 9.1 Mandrake working
  wonderfully as a server.  All my
 virtual web pages work wonderfully.. and now I
  am ready to open an FTP
 connection so I can finish uploading a ton of
  files from a different
 computer.

 Only problem is, I don't know how to get FTP
  to work in this version.

 I've downloaded PROFTPD and tried to get that
  to work, but after a few
 questions to the PROFTPD mail list, and a few
  days of searching Google
  for
 help, and reading the PROFTPD faq, I still
  can't FTP to my new server.
 The people on the PROFTPD mail list won't even
  reply to my questions.

 Should I even be using PROFTP?  What can I do,
  if even for a basic FTP
 setup, to get FTP to work on my server?  I'll
  be glad to remove
  PROFTPD
 and use whatever works.

 Any suggestions will be happily appreciated.

 James


   
   
  
  
 
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Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP

2003-10-08 Thread David Rankin
Here is a generic conf, works with about 99% of the samba config needs out
there. Canibalize as necessary:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] david]$ cat /etc/smb.conf

# Global parameters
[global]
workgroup = RB_LAW
server string = RB_LAW Samba Server %v
encrypt passwords = Yes
update encrypted = Yes
smb passwd file = /etc/smbpasswd
passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u
passwd chat = *New*password* %n\n *new*password* %n\n *success*
passwd chat debug = Yes
unix password sync = Yes
log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m
max log size = 50
name resolve order = wins lmhosts hosts bcast
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
printcap name = lpstat
logon script = %U.bat
domain logons = Yes
time server = yes
os level = 34
preferred master = Yes
domain master = Yes
dns proxy = No
wins support = Yes
hosts allow = 192.168.7. localhost
min print space = 2000
printing = cups
print command = /usr/bin/lp -d%p -oraw %s; rm %s
lpq command = /usr/bin/lpstat -o%p
lprm command = /usr/bin/cancel %p-%j
queuepause command = /usr/bin/disable %p
queueresume command = /usr/bin/enable %p

[netlogon]
comment = Rankin-Bertin logon services
path = /home/samba/logon
browseable = No

[Rankin-Bertin]
comment = Rankin-Bertin PLLC
path = /home/samba/rbpllc
valid users = @rbpllc
force group = rbpllc
admin users = david
writeable = Yes
map archive = Yes
inherit permissions = Yes

[homes]
comment = Homes Directory
writeable = Yes
browseable = No

[printers]
comment = All the Printing SOB's
path = /var/spool
guest ok = Yes
printable = Yes
printer = lp


See the O'Rielly online free manual that is part of your samba docs for more
detail on the obscure entries. Then just # /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart

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Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP


 trying to figure out why Samba isn't working... two hours
 looking for alternatives network transfer mechanisms... one hour
 sneaker-netting the data with removable media... six hours

 downloading pscp.exe and simply transferring the files... priceless

 :-)

 I mean, honestly. I've got nearly ten years of earning a living with
 computers under my belt, I'm MCSE and LPIC-2 certified, and I've spent
 over half my career working with networks and firewalls. I still can't
 configure Samba properly on the first try, and usually not on the second
 or third either. I know a couple of admins who are comfortable with
 Samba, but most admins in my circle fight for hours and days to get it
 set up and then stay the hell away from it.

 Recommending that a newbie jump in and start hacking smb.conf and
 smbpasswd is like asking Jack Black to win an Ironman :-)



 On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 12:08, Ricardo (Tru64 User) wrote:
  samba then?
  Mount a linux filesystem via samba to the inferrior
  breed.
 
  Richard
 
 
  --- David Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Good point, but it presupposes that the other
   comuputer is a Linux box and
   not some inferrior breed that doesn't understand scp
   ;-)
  
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   - Original Message - 
   From: Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: Mandrake Expert List
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 10:16 AM
   Subject: Re: [expert] All I want to do is FTP
  
  
you know what I do when I want to transfer a big
   bunch of files?
scp -r big-buncha-files
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/new/home/of/files
   
You can also use:
   
scp -r [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/big/buncha/files
   /new/home/of/files
   
It's a little more CPU-intensive than FTP'ing
   them, but who cares? It's
also a lot easier than installing a temporary FTP
   server, especially
since you've probably already got sshd up and
   running on at least one of
the boxes.
   
IMHO the FTP protocol is dying the slow and
   painful death that it so
richly deserves. It won't be missed.
   
Jack
   
On Wed, 2003-10-08 at 07:27, David Rankin wrote:
 Worse comes to worse, try:

 # vi /etc/xinetd.d/wu-ftpd

 service ftp
 {
 disable = yes
 socket_type = stream
 wait= no
 user= root
 server

Re: [expert] Mail server

2003-10-05 Thread David Guntner
Richard Bown grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 that friend of my, is wanting to setup a mailserver, on his gateway
 machine.
 I use postfix here, which I dont think has any POP retrieval facilities.
 He wants to be able to run it on his firewall/gateway machine and pull
 all his mail from the ISP's POP server on to it, then POP it down to
 individual machines on the LAN..
 As I'm going to have to go over there and set up, I'd like some guidance
 which packages to use.

Install the imap package, which includes a POP3 server.

Install fetchmail, so that his box can do the POP3 fetch of his mailbox 
from his ISP.

And of course install Postfix. :-)

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[expert] Mdk 9.1 / Promise RAID FastTrak 376

2003-10-02 Thread David Oberbeck
Hello all,

   We are trying to install Mdk 9.1 on a MSI motherboard with a
Promise FastTrak 376 (aka 20376 controller).

   After googling about for a while, we found that there is a lot of
noise out there... so by any chance does anybody on this list have:

(a) succinct, and

(b) actually working instructions

on how to do this for Mandrake?

TIA,
David

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Re: [expert] Samba Again !

2003-10-01 Thread David Rankin
 os level = 34
 preferred master = Yes
 domain master = Yes
 wins support = Yes


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:42 AM
Subject: [expert] Samba Again !


 Hi All,
 its that dreaded samba time again, two questions
 which parameter in smb.conf(file name may be wrong)
 do I set to make sure the gateway machine all ways wins elections for
 master browser,?
  my laptop keeps trying to take control.
 Unfortunately, its got winxp on it as its an old pent 2 266MHz, and it
 cannot cope with MDK9.1, not enough memory and not fast enough :((

 2.my printer is an Epson C82, nice on linux :)albeit a little slower.

 the printer on the laptop is set to //firewall/printer and that prints
 without problems from both my laptop and from win4lin.
 But, on the laptop if you click on the printer icon, you get the status
 box with Printer on firewall access denied, unable to connect
 Any ideas what to look for, or is this just a bit of daft winsoftware..

 TIA
 Richard










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RE: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]

2003-10-01 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

before running Audacity and/or Rezound do the following

$killall artsd

That might get you going. Here's hoping kernel 2.6 and its built-in ALSA
support comes and wipes the old OSS Sound way of doing things off the planet
for good :)


David

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 8:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [expert] Vinyl to CD]


On Wednesday 01 Oct 2003 1:40 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
 On Wednesday 01 October 2003 05:20 am, Anne Wilson wrote:
  Right - this one gave me the clue.  I had checked the settings in
  aumix, but I hadn't realised that I needed to change the Rec to
  red - should have done.  However, now I can get sound easily with
  the aumix line showing red.  As soon as I change to rec I get
  sound, but with what sounds like someone fast beating on
  woodblocks at the same time. Any ideas on that one?
 
  Anne

 Hmm, I know that on the SB live that I was using in my 10 yr olds
 comp; I really, really had to turn the igain (I'm assuming thats
 input gain???) in aumix way down. It defauts to 100, but I had to
 turn it down to 8-10 to avoid clipping in gramofile.

 HTHs!

Hi, DarkLord.  OK - if I turn igain down to 0 I lose the noise, but 
even 3 brings it back.  I presume it is some sort of feedback, but I 
don't know what's causing it.

Meanwhile, I had looked at Audacity and Rezound, but without success.  
These are the error messages:

Rezound -
virtual void COSSSoundRecorder::initialize(CSound*)
 -- error opening OSS device '/dev/dsp
 -- Device or resource busy

Audacity -
Error opening audio device
(Change the device in the Preferences dialog.)

/dev/dsp is the only entry in the Preferences dialog.

Any ideas?

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RE: [expert] Morphix changed my Login?!

2003-10-01 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Does your old user still exist on the system? What happens when you boot to
runlevel 3 and then type startx? What errors show up?

I always use knoppix for linux demos - very nice system...

David

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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 11:06 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mandrake Newbs
Subject: [expert] Morphix changed my Login?!



I booted from the Morphix CD to try it out before I sent it off to
someone as a tool to promote Linux. *Supposedly* it will not alter your
existing system, but I have found out the hard way that this is not the
case.

Now my login has changed from my machine name, Node1, to morphix,
though I have checked /etc/hosts and /etc/sysconfig/network and neither
have been altered.

The biggest problem is that my X server config has somehow been altered,
I'm assuming, because I can no longer start any WM or DE except KDE (and
you all know how I feel about that).

My XF86Config-4 is unchanged, so I do not know where to go from here in
order to get my system back the way it was.

I have posted a request for help on the Morphix site, but so far no
response.

I can assure you I will *not* be recommending this to *anyone* to try
out Linux...

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RE: [expert] Vinyl to CD

2003-09-30 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

My wife did this for a Christmas present last year. She used Audacity and
was very happy with it...

David

-Original Message-
From: Anne Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 8:46 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] Vinyl to CD


I sent this two hours ago, but it hasn't shown, so I'll try again.

I need to record some of my vinyl collection as wav files to burn onto 
audio cd.  So far I haven't found anything that is actually reading 
the input, either from the soundcard direct or from the Audigy front 
panel.

Some time ago someone mentioned the diskwriter plugin for xmms.  Can 
someone give me the file name?  I don't seem to have it installed, 
and can't find it on the list.

Is diskwriter likely to help me?

Anyone able to suggest a better route?

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Re: [expert] Re: Virtual servers and the Default server

2003-09-28 Thread David
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 23:49, James wrote:
 David wrote:
 :It is usually caused by a misconfiguration in the Directory section for
 :DocumentRoot.
 
 Here is my setting for the devault which is now a virtual server:
 VirtualHost 63.224.195.57
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 DocumentRoot /var/www/html/vivid-eye/public_html
 ServerName www.vivid-eye.com
 /VirtualHost
 

I am assumming that you hava a global document root of: 

DocumentRoot /var/www/html

somewhere? And then there are the global permisions to deal with
indexes, cgi access etc etc.

 I've trimmed it down to that because it wasn't working with all the other
 extras, but now it is.  The subdirectory I am trying to view is
 /var/www/html/vivid-eye/public_html/james but I get the 403.
 
 
 :The quick workaround would be to define a Directory
 :section for the directory james whithin either a virtual hosts container
 :or the global section of the config file.
 
 Where would I define a new directory for  /james?  Do I create a new
 VirtualHost setup for that all on its own?  Or do I just add Directory
 within the vivid-eye VirtualHost section?
 

Within the original vhost if required, but it al depends if the
permission in the global config restrict the permissions in the vhost.

Apache reads permission from the global root, if you have a restriction
in global root and then release it lower down the directory
structure..it will not play, unless you have allowoveride in the global
section.

HTH.

 Thanks
 
 james franssen
 
 
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Re: [expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?

2003-09-25 Thread David James
On Thu, 2003-09-25 at 06:12, Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 24. September 2003 22:30 schrieb Rolf Pedersen:
  Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Wednesday 24 Sep 2003 3:33 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote:
 [...]
 
  Yes, Anne, I saw that.  What I am thinking of is that both the reader,
  if you have one, and the writer must be scsi-emulated for some apps to
  work.  Here is a post where such advice to make the reader also
  scsi-emulated for k3b to work is mentioned:
  http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2003-Jul/2997.html
 
 I had some similar problem with my ide-writer. The problem is partialy in the 
 ide-cd module wich is loaded before the ide-scsi module. As root I had to 
 unload the ide-cd and the ide-scsi module and after loading ide-scsi again 
 k3b works again (at least on my system).
 
 
  Rolf
 Martin

I have now enabled scsi-emulation on the reader as well and I have been
able to burn to disk, however if I try to read the disk in the reader it
reports that the drive is locked if I place the disk into the cdrw and
then click on the icon for the reader I can then see the contents of the
disk even though the disk is in the other drive??? I guess things are a
little bit messed up, but never mind at least I can now back up my work
and start again.

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[expert] re-installed mdk 9.1 now unable to use cdrw?

2003-09-24 Thread David James
I have been using mdk 9.1 for a number of months now without any
problems and of course I got bored and decided to fiddle with the
system,BIG mistake, ie update my nvidia drivers,unfortunately I broke
the system,no problem I thought all I need to do is re-install mdk and I
can still keep all my settings,data etc,this is what I did and
everything seemed to work to plan except that I can no longer use k3b it
keeps showing the error:
No support for ATAPI with cdrdao enable ide-scsi (SCSI emulation)
as far as I know this has been enabled,see lilo below.
I also set cdrdao driver to generic-mmc, as advised but still no joy. 
** contents of lilo **
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
vga=normal
default=linux
keytable=/boot/uk.klt
nowarn
message=/boot/message
menu-scheme=wb:bw:wb:bw
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=quiet devfs=mount acpi=off hdd=ide-scsi
vga=788
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=linux-nonfb
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=devfs=mount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz
label=failsafe
root=/dev/hda1
initrd=/boot/initrd.img
append=failsafe devfs=nomount hdd=ide-scsi acpi=off
read-only
other=/dev/fd0
label=floppy
unsafe
**

I have also run cdrecord -scanbus and this seems to show everything is
ok?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] david]# cdrecord -scanbus
Cdrecord 2.0 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2002 Jörg
Schilling
Linux sg driver version: 3.1.24
Using libscg version 'schily-0.7'
scsibus1:
1,0,0   100) 'IDE-CD  ' 'R/RW 12x8x32' 'N3.8' Removable
CD-ROM
1,1,0   101) *
1,2,0   102) *
1,3,0   103) *
1,4,0   104) *
1,5,0   105) *
1,6,0   106) *
1,7,0   107) *
In the mdk control panel the cdrw is reported to be on the scsi bus and
is mounted on /dev/scdo 
If anyone can help me to resolve this problem i would be most grateful,I
just want to be able to back everything up in anticipation of mdk 9.2.

Many thanks in advance,

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RE: [expert] openssh-3.7p1 Mandy 9.0

2003-09-24 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

Hi Richard,

I've got a MDK 8.2 install at home that runs my firewall. I had the same
problem and found (by poking around ./configure --help) that I needed to
compile it with MD5 password support in order for me to log into the
machine. Compiling with PAM didn't seem to do anything.

FWIT, this is what I used to configure openssh

$ ./configure --with-md5-passwords --with-privsep-user=-user-

After compiling, installing and changing /etc/rc.d/init.d/sshd to point to
the new daemon, all was well in sshland. Until I had to remember what I did
when I had to upgrade to 3.7.1p1 which you should probably do as well. After
that, I wrote it down :)


Best regards,

David

-Original Message-
From: Ricardo (Tru64 User) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [expert] openssh-3.7p1  Mandy 9.0


Hi ALL,

I have a problem with openssh-3.7p1 working on Mandy.
It compiles fine, and I perform an install  (on
/opt/openssh-3.7p1).
I can start it fine (link it up to /etc/init.d/..blah
blah), so service ssh restart starts it OK.
Problem is that then no-one can log in. Keeps
complaining about bad passwd!! I have openssh-3.6p1
(compiled version) working OK, and I can log in with
it, using same password.

My problem is that I HAVE to use the latest and
greatest out there, and YES, i know Mandrake has
released an rpm patch for 3.6p1. But, with our
internal scan, anything running a version identified
as vulnerable, even if patched, is flagged. So i have
always used locally compiled versions of ssh. Anyone
else gone past this problem?

Longing for a response/idea/suggestion/recommendation
only on getting openssh-3.7p1 to work.

_Thanks

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[expert] wma file conversion?

2003-09-23 Thread David E. Fox
Hello list,

Anyone done this before? I was on vacation and managed to have my
system automatically capture a radio show and save it off in mplayer's
stream dump format, which it identifies as wma. I'm attempting to 
explode it into a wav suitable for burning, but I can't get the
mencoder command to do anything but segfault.



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Re: [expert] Re: Virtual servers and the Default server

2003-09-21 Thread David
On Sun, 2003-09-21 at 11:19, James wrote:
 Thanks for the suggestions.  It's working now.  Everything seems to be
 fine *except* one last thing.  My default is vivid-eye.com and it's
 serving fine, I just need to rearrange some directories, but the thing
 that isn't working is a directory called /james
 
 My vivid-eye directory is located here:
 /var/www/html/vivid-eye/public_html/index.html
 
 The directory I can't seem to access from the internet is located here:
 /var/www/html/vivid-eye/public_html/james
 
 I've made sure the directory is open, and even chmod 755 to make extra
 sure, but I get a 403 Forbidden You don't have permission to access
 /james/ on this server.
 

A long time ago I had this problem on one of my boxes, I currently use
Debian for my webserver though. 

It is usually caused by a misconfiguration in the Directory section for
DocumentRoot. The quick workaround would be to define a Directory
section for the directory james whithin either a virtual hosts container
or the global section of the config file. You may have too restrictive
permissions in you options section elswhere stopping a URL from
descending down from DocumentRoot.

Sorry if this is already covered, but I am missing the posts before this
one.

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Re: [expert] eth0 doesn't get IP through dhcp - Problem vanished

2003-09-19 Thread David Rankin
WOBO, What kind of cable/router is it??? Linksys? Belkin?

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Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] eth0 doesn't get IP through dhcp - Problem vanished


 Bill Mullen schrieb am Thu, 18 Sep 2003 15:40:20 -0400 (EDT):

  On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, Robert Thyberg wrote:
 
   Have had exactly the same problem, which is why this is being sent
   by Eudora!! Have 4-port router into a Cable modem. 2 Linux (9.2 rc2
   and SuSE) and two Wins (2000 and XP). However mine has not
   accidently  started  working again altho I've tried all sorts of
   things. Reinstall seems to be the only thing to make it work for a
   while! Ideas??
 
  Since you're using a router and trying to get an IP address from it
  (as opposed to a direct connection to the modem, where the address
  would come instead from your ISP), the simplest solution is to not use
  DHCP at all, and configure yourself a static address. Doesn't answer
  the why, but fixes the what once and for all ... :)

 Hmm, sounds reasonable and I used to work with static IPs until I bought
 this access point/router/switch. I couldn't get it to work with static
 IPs, only with dhcp. I may start another try when 9.2 final comes out
 and I switch my machines to the final.

 wobo








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Re: [expert] NIC interrupts

2003-09-19 Thread David Rankin
Shot in the Dark:

Try the NIC in a different PCI slot. Alternatively, go into the BIOS and
change to PCI IRQ assignment to get a different IRQ for the NIC.

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safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen.  Texas
Declaration of Independence (March 2, 1836), repealed by Gov. Rick Perry,
Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst and the HMO and insurance industry lobby (September
13, 2003).

When tyrants ask you to yield one jot of your liberty, and you consent
thereto, it is the first link forged in the chain that will eventually hold
you in bondage. (Sam Houston).

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 8:35 AM
Subject: [expert] NIC interrupts



 Hi All,
 I've persuaded a friend after a lot of nagging to move over to linux, so
 he's bought the boxed MDK 9.1.

 The onboard network card was found but the interface  eth0 would'nt come
 up as it complained the device was busy.

 So onboard NIC disabled in the bios and a card fitted , realtek 8139
 clone.
 Eth0 comes up OK and data goes out , but not seeing anything incoming.
 The card is OK , checked on another machine.
 However the interrupt its using is INT 6, which if I remember correct is
 the interrupt reserved for the floppy drive.
 This makes me a little suspicious !,
 Is there away of forcing the interrupt for the NIC to use,its plug and
 pray .

 Thanks
 Richard
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RE: [expert] tightvnc startup problem?

2003-09-17 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

You might also need to update your qt libs. Look in MandrakeUpdate and you
may see an update for qt that mentions vnc...

David

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Hi, all

I installed and started a tightvnc server on an IPC. I
can connect to this IPC from another workstation with
no problem. But only icewm is available. If I put the
following line in xstartup:

exec /usr/X11R6/bin/icewm

I got a windows manager after connection established.

exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startkde

I got nothing.

Why I can't get a KDE desktop?


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Re: [expert] Dynamic dns

2003-09-13 Thread David Guntner
HaywireMac grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 18:25:28 -0700 (PDT)
 David Guntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Check out www.no-ip.com.  I use them, and have liked them for some
  time now.  They deal with NAT just fine, and have a Linux updater
  client.
 
 but they charge you for using your own domain name (?!).

Personally, I don't have a problem with that. :-)  It's not an unreasonable 
price they're asking.  I use them, so I mentioned them as an option.

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Re: [expert] Dynamic dns

2003-09-13 Thread David Guntner
HaywireMac grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 04:11:49 -0700
 David Guntner [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Personally, I don't have a problem with that. :-)  It's not an
  unreasonable price they're asking.  I use them, so I mentioned them as
  an option.
 
 Nothing against you, or your judgement, intended. :-)
 
 I just don't understand why using *their* name is free, while using your
 own costs $.

Because that's how they stay in business, given that they don't force ads 
down anyone's throat? :-)

 If Zoneedit is free, and so far reliable, why not?

No reason not to.  From the initial information posted, I figured that 
maybe Zoneedit required a Windows-only client to do the update or 
something.  I offered an option that I know of and am happy with.  Nothing 
more. :-)

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Re: [expert] Dynamic dns

2003-09-13 Thread David Guntner
HaywireMac grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 16:59:18 +0200
 Benjamin Pflugmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered:
 
  Because in one case, they get free advertising (via their branding),
  in the other case, they do not. Or in other words: they use the
  freelancers using the branding domain name to attract people willing
  to pay for using own domain names.
 
 I see, but my old domain from noip was nodex.sytes.net, which told
 no-one anything about NoIP...I fail to see the branding.

Sure there is.  Someone sees sytes.net and points there web browser there.  
Know what you get?  The no-ip.com login page. :-)

 However, they are free to do as they choose; but if Zoneedit does it for
 free, why would anyone choose NoIP?!

Because we appreciate the service they provide?

By extension:  Why would anyone pay for Mandrake, when you can download the 
entire distribution for free?  Or Red Hat?  Or SuSE?

I don't pay for *every* version of Mandrake that comes out, because I'm 
terminally broke. :-)  Once my finances straighten out, I plan to join the 
Club.  And even with a club membership, I'll still pay for the occasional 
release.  Why do all that when I can get it for free?  Because I appreciate 
the distribution that they provide, and I want to support them how and 
where I can.

Same goes for no-ip.com.  I appreciate the service they provide, so I 
support them with an annual renewal fee that's on top of my domain 
registration fee.

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Re: [expert] Video processing box

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
 a 900 MHz processor (though 512MB RAM).  I had thought of adding a 
 firewire card to the new box when I buy the new camcorder.

Mine's an Athlon 1000 with 256k ram, probably not enough hardware for
video editing. I have tried cinelerra off and on with avi and mpeg
files I already have (no camcorder). 

 I had planned for 512MB RAM - are you saying that's not really enough?

Well, dunno. 256 megs doesnt' seem to be enough. I think 512megs would
be enough, but you may be better off with SCSI drives. scsi is quite
expensive though.

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
 Now a basic question that maybe I'm doing something wrong. When you open a 
 song, there is a blinking cursor across the graph. I would expect this to 

It does over here. Maybe the zoom isn't set right -- because if the song
is long enough, you won't see the progress bar move very much.


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Re: [expert] 9.1 /home in 9.2

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
 add programs and data, will this affect my use of the home directory when
 I go back to 9.1? Is there a way to access files in one program from the

Any changes you make in /home are not part of Mandrake so it wouldn't make
much difference if you were to go back to 9.1 from 9.2. That said, there 
are dot files in your home diredctory which may need upgrading or 
downgrading, as a result of executing programs in 9.2 and thenn re-
executing them in 9.1.

One other thing I noticed when I did the upgrade is that the groups got
changed around - different gid numbers from /etc/passwd. That can make it
a bit difficult if you need to access files in /home. But a quick 
chown will address that issue - so long as you make sure to get the dot-
files and dot-directories to change ownerships along with the rest of the
files. 


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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-13 Thread David E. Fox
 Something must be wrong then. It is a 4 minute song and it doesn't matter what 
 the zoom is and nothing I do causes it to progress like it should. Weird. 

It would seem so. Are you importing the mp3 directly, rr is it in a wav?

I'm not at my system now to check these things out -- right now I'm accessing
my system via remote ssh from my parent's house and will be on my way to 
Portland, OR tomorrow.


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Re: [expert] AntiVir Personal Edition

2003-09-12 Thread David
On Fri, 2003-09-12 at 01:05, Miark wrote:
 Today I stumbled across anti-virus software from H+BEDV
 (a German company) for Linux. It's free for personal use,
 and was wondering if anyone here had used it, and if so
 what you think about it.
 
Hi,

I have been using this software for about three years on a number of
machines on my network.

I run the avmailgate integrated as a filter on my mail server. I run it
on my file server/s as well.

All this is on the 'not for business' licence, and my home network is
not business. I have cronjobs updating the patterns every night and I am
very happy.

One quirk, when the licence runs out on the mailserver, it can stop
processing mail, which, the first time it happens looks real weird as
you see postfix accepting the mail and then it just disapears. It was
only when I ran the avgate program from the command line, the update
prog had overwritten the virus def file with a broken one of zero bytes
as the auto-update script failed to update because of the licence issue.
swoon

Bottom line though, it is the easiest and most stable free av program
that I have used. The only reason I scan mail/files are that I have a
couple of Win2K boxes that the family use.

HTH.
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Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread David Rankin
Good bye Mandrake

I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's reputation
than to add to it what 100% of its user loath.

--
David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E.
RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC
510 Ochiltree Street
Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
(936) 715-9333
(936) 715-9339 fax

...the right to trial by jury, that palladium of civil liberty and only
safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen.  Texas
Declaration of Independence (March 2, 1836)

It's your bill of rights - Vote NO to Prop. 12 on September 13
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From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:04 AM
Subject: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.


 Ya'll read... Ya'll decide.

 Conversation is on pclinux.  probably best to keep it there.

 http://www.mandrakesoft.com/partners/advertising

 http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=Newsfile=articlesid=7702

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Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.

2003-09-12 Thread David Rankin
I appreciate your response, and perhaps I was presumtive in my 100%
suggestion. I do see your point. So why don't we all just declare the clean
elegance of linux code and distributions dead. Let's all say Hey, it's OK
to start down the path of code bloat and incideous little processes running
in the background to direct spam to my machine. Say yes, I like the idea
of pop-ups and spyware polluting my browser and desktop. And say yes to all
the inconvenience just so someone can put another almighty dollar in thier
pocket.

Get real!

Many people look to linux to get away for just this type of annoying BS.
Yes, I like and support mandrake. But I am UTTERLY APPAULED at the premise
and idea of including incestuos slutty advertising in the mdk distribution.
Mdk was a great distro long before the corporatization and focus on $
became its fixation. In my eyes, and I will say in the eyes of many
others, the inclusion of unwanted and unsolicited ads, in any form, no
matter how easily removed is unacceptable that will make mdk a distribution
I would no longer choose to be a part of or support.

Hooray for the marketing scum, they have finally found a way to pollute a
linux distribution. I guess someone will get a nice fat check for that idea.

--
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Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
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safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen.  Texas
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It's your bill of rights - Vote NO to Prop. 12 on September 13
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] (OT)Mandrake and Advertising.


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 September 12, 2003 11:41 am, David Rankin wrote:
  Good bye Mandrake
 
  I can think of no more assinine way to kill a distribution's
  reputation than to add to it what 100% of its user loath.

 Mr. Rankin;

 I do believe you're making a fairly broad assumption there David, on
 little or no evidence. In fact I openly stated that I don't care what
 they do to *survive,* as long as it doesn't become intrusive. If that
 happens I won't wait to say goodbye; I'll be history and thanks for the
 memories. So I would appreciate enormously you not trying to speak for
 100% of Mandrake users. OK?

 You don't know what 100% of Mandrake users are thinking. If you claim to
 you must have political aspirations, or are possibly considering a
 career in the clergy, since to the best of my knowledge they are the
 only individuals that make such sweeping statements and broad
 assumptions just to get their faces Out There.

 On Faith in other words. So please try not to claim any form of
 poetic license since that's just a polite word for bullshit.

 I've also seen posts from some others that lead me to believe that they
 too would wait to see what happens. If we're running a distribution of
 GNU/Linux, and we are; and if we're advocating GNU/Linux to friends,
 family, and business associates, and it seems we all are, then why the
 Hell are we complaining if a survival mechanism for the distribution we
 all seem to treasure is instituted so that we can keep working with it
 and the company responsible for it?

 If none of us gave a shit we wouldn't be complaining so vociferously,
 now would we?

 My own personal mantra doesn't include whining about the way the world
 is. I'd rather devote my energies to making certain my own little
 corner of the real world improves. For everyone.

 For the people that are willing to listen to me around these parts, that
 improvement includes, and will continue to include for the foreseeable
 future, Mandrake Linux. If the management of MandrakeSoft have to take
 drastic steps to insure their corporate survival it must mean they
 want that as well.

 I'll say it once more for those that didn't get it yet;

 As long as whatever the 'Powers That Be' in MandrakeSoft Management do
 doesn't intrude on me, or those that I advocate the distribution to,
 I'll back them the way I always have. If it does, _boom!_ I'm gone. Not
 an ultimatum, a fact. A very *personal fact;* that means nothing in the
 greater scheme of things.

 Clear enough?

 Kind Regards;
 Charlie Mahan
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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
 Yep! You are genius! Thanks so much. Now let me ask why I need to do this... 
 Is this because of a bug or the way the application was designed, or is it 
 like a gnome product that I'm trying to use in KDE? 

I don't think it has anything to do with gnome. Audacity I believe 
uses some of the gtk+ libraries - it does seem to have that look and
feel. But 99% of the time I can get by without needing artswrapper - the
other times I can work around it. Only once in a while would something
like xmms refuse to play a location because of an arts dependency - and
those few times I can reort to mpg123 or some other player. Unfortunately,
kaboodle  noatun have trouble (cooker with latest KDE) for sometime. But
there are alternatives, not necessarily so with audacity.

 Thanks to EVERYONE for all the help. I do believe I finally have an editor to 
 cut the screech out of my songs. :) Im not a happy camper and I didn't even 

No, leave it in, it sounds better that way :).

But audacity does include quite a bit of tools for audio file editing. I've 
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Re: [expert] root-tail

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
 It is something to do with root-tail, but I can't figure out what it
 is... :-(

Isn't root-tail some feature of reiserfs? Or am I missing sometning
here?

According to 'man top' it seems -b just sends lines of top through to
stdout until a limit has been reached or until the process is killed.

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Re: [expert] Dynamic dns

2003-09-12 Thread David Guntner
Erik Evjenth grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 I am migrating from Win XP to Mandrake Linux.

 My Apache web server is up and running

 I have a *simple* problem with dynamic IP and DNS:

 0. Registered my domain for $7.95 with GoDaddy

 1. My DNS is through Zoneedit.com (to support Dynamic DNS)

 2. I use Dynamic DNS Client 5.0 to update Zoneedit.com when my IP
 address
 changes

 This all works fine, but I have not found a Linux replacement for Dynamic
 DNS Client 5.0

 Info:
 My DSL box uses NAT, and is set up to forward http traffic to the web
 server, so the IP address as seen by the internet is not the same as the
 actual apache web server address. Guess the WAN ip address of the router
 can be found with routetrace, or just query the speedstream router.

 How the IP address is sent to zoneedit.com is unkonwn to me.

Check out www.no-ip.com.  I use them, and have liked them for some time
now.  They deal with NAT just fine, and have a Linux updater client.

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[expert] asf files / mplayer saving

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
I'm on a trip in a day or so and am looking for a way to automate
recording (via mplayer) of some radio shows while I am gone. The
recording I think I can figure out -- using a command like

$ mplayer -streamdump foo -cache 128

but I get a file that's ASF. It also (on the site I'm using) gives
a monaural signal. When I play the stream back, I can visually see 
it as stereo in xine. Audacity brings it in but it seems to be corrupted,
as all I get out of it is a wierd screech sound that lasts for about
two seconds. Also that's what is in my .wav file when I try and export 
it to wav format using audacity.  So there must be some sort of conversion
I'm missing.

My other option is to do some of this manually through an sshd connection
but I don't believe I will have internet access during my trip.

Any suggestions? I also need to stop the stream at a predetermined time. I
saw a writeup about this, issue #94 of Linux Gazette, although it's
emphasizing ecasound and encoding local FM through a radio card.
 


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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-12 Thread David E. Fox
 my xmms, and every other audio tool I've ever used have never had this problem 
 here. So that is why I was kind of lost. I've never had to use wrappers etc. 
 Kind of caught me off guard. I had remembered reading about wine or something 

xmms here, pretty much same thing. noatun won't connect, neither will
kaboodle (current cooker). noatun complains about a missing arts, and
kaboodle sits there doing nothing. But if another tool will do the job,
I'll just go use that tool.

 Just had a wierd experience. Audacity loads just fine. It loads the file just 
 fine, but then when you hit play nothing. ?? No progression of the bar, no 

I just posted about an issue with it but then I was trying to import an
mplayer dump stream directly. That doesn't seem to work.


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Not so funny side of spam [was Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring]

2003-09-10 Thread David Rankin
Not so funny side of spam:

Anne started ending up in my deleted items box after filtering
tiscali.co.uk what also has the reputation of a spam site. Don't worry Anne,
we will pull you out of the deleted items

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safe guarantee for the life, liberty and property of the citizen.  Texas
Declaration of Independence (March 2, 1836)

It's your bill of rights - Vote NO to Prop. 12 on September 13
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Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 4:36 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring


 On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 9:54 pm, KevinO wrote:
  Anne Wilson wrote:
   On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
  Anne Wilson wrote:
  
   As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to
   read that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision,
   dark blue text on black is not easy.
 
  Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the
  comment.

 I didn't want to sound over-critical, but if no-one tells you there's
 a problem you wouldn't know.  I'll pop back and have another look.
 Thanks for being cooperative.

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RE: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines

2003-09-10 Thread JOHAM,DAVID (HP-Boise,ex1)

you need to update your version of QT. You can do this in your mandrake
control center...

David

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Subject: [expert] VNC server bad display on all MDK 9.1 machines


Hello,

When running VNC server (and tightvnc server) from any Mandrake 9.1 machine,
any attempt to connect to vnc host results in only the wallpaper displaying
and nothing else. This appears to be an inherent problem with the MDK 9.1
build; how is this resolved?  Your responses are greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance.

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Re: [expert] I need a sound editor for mp3 and or wav files

2003-09-10 Thread David E. Fox
 Oh, sorry.  That's weird.  I don't see it on a couple of mirrors I 
 looked at.  What I did when 9.1 came out was save my local cooker 

I concur - audacity is good for mp3/wav editing - provided you have
enough spare disk space. If you don't, don't try to save the project as
a project file in your home directory. I use /tmp for most everything 
for that, since I don't have a lot of room left in /home and /tmp has 
several gigs available (editing roughly an hour's length of wav file 
will need close to 2.1 gigs of space).

But what's 'hackaudacity'?

 

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Re: WARNING(virus check bypassed): Re: [expert] CLI for monitoring

2003-09-09 Thread David Boles
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 04:54 pm, KevinO wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Tuesday 09 Sep 2003 11:53 am, KevinO wrote:
 Anne Wilson wrote:
 
  As a side-issue, I have to get close to the page and squint to read
  that page, Kevin.  For those with less than perfect vision, dark blue
  text on black is not easy.

 Sorry about that. The color has been changed. Thanks for the comment.

Is this the latest virus warning for the list?
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Re: [expert] Sending mail throughout several smtp servers?

2003-09-07 Thread David E. Fox
 messages throughout the University server (correo.um.es) and viceversa, I
 can't send messages  from a computer located in the Uniersity throughout the
 mail-server at home (smtp.ono.com).

Well, here' s a thought.. is your home box set up for ssh? Could you
use putty (highly recommended for windows) and just log onto your
system remotely from the uni and send mail using elm?

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Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation

2003-09-06 Thread David E. Fox
fdutils, includes among other utilities, superformat. But it's 
 only for formatting DOS file system floppy's. Won't work for an 

What would be the difference between a 10 sector per track DOS 
file system floppy and an ext2 fs floppy? I don't mean from a file
system standpoint, I know the differences, but from a hardware 
standpoint, what is it about ext2 that makes it harder to use 
higher-capacity format disks? 

Or does superformat simply make a DOS image? You still could 
make a bigger disk with 'fdformat' and go that route, right? It's 
been some time since I really used floppies much, so I'm just not 
understanding this point. I trink 1.6 meg would work but the media
could not be all that reliable. I do recall the problems when I first 
started using Linux - I used to tell people that they had better use 
known good and reliable disks for the boot/root combos as those were
native linux and back then if you had floppies with bad sectors, you 
were essentially out of luck.


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Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation

2003-09-06 Thread David E. Fox
 I have done this with a winblows program and still have some disks like this, 
 up to 1.72mb which was very handy at times. I don't know how to achieve this 

Use a special device for that format you want. I'd suggest first trying

# fdformat /dev/fd0h1660

see what happens. Back in the old days and I think that's still true, 
you'd use the special form of /dev/fd0 (for instance /dev/fd0h1440) when
formatting only. 

As I recall, uppercase H was for 5.25 and lowercase 'h' for 3.5.

I don't know offhand what the 'u' is. Maybe 'unformatted' but that
doesn't make sense.


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Re: [expert] HOWTO Samba server with XPHome ME clients

2003-09-05 Thread David Rankin
Specifically, on your linux box, for each user that will connect from XP:

#useradd {whoever}
enter password

#smbpasswd -a {whoever}
enter samepassword

NOTE: the linux, samba and XP usernames and passwords must match as Anne
stated below

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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] HOWTO Samba server with XPHome  ME clients


 On Thursday 04 Sep 2003 5:57 pm, Niclas Jacobsson wrote:
  Hi All!
 
  I've got problems setting up a samba server for WinME  XPHome
  clients. Printersharing works like a charm but file/directory (oops
  sorry for the Win-terminology...) sharing seems difficult to get
  working. Resources setup with samba show up in explorer at the
  client but when accessed I get prompted for password (guest
  account) what is this password, where can I find it? and how do I
  set this up so that each Windows/client account can access shared
  resources without being prompted for pswd?? Is there an HOWTO
  somewhere that explains all this in detail?
 
  Thanks!
  Niclas

 Every user must have an account on your box, and the username and
 password must match that on the windows box in every detail - it is
 case-sensitive of course.  The fact that it's asking for the guest
 password suggests that you haven't done this.

 Webmin may not be installed - it isn't by default, I think - but it's
 worth having.

 If you are still having problems after that, paste your /etc/smb/conf
 into a message here.

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Re: [expert] HOWTO Samba server with XPHome ME clients

2003-09-05 Thread David Rankin
go back and reset the password on the XP box. You may also want to delete
the connection to your linux box under my network places on XP

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Subject: Re: [expert] HOWTO Samba server with XPHome  ME clients


 On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 20:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On Thursday 04 Sep 2003 5:57 pm, Niclas Jacobsson wrote:
   Hi All!
  
   I've got problems setting up a samba server for WinME  XPHome
   clients. Printersharing works like a charm but file/directory (oops
   sorry for the Win-terminology...) sharing seems difficult to get
   working. Resources setup with samba show up in explorer at the
   client but when accessed I get prompted for password (guest
   account) what is this password, where can I find it? and how do I
   set this up so that each Windows/client account can access shared
   resources without being prompted for pswd?? Is there an HOWTO
   somewhere that explains all this in detail?
  
   Thanks!
   Niclas
 
  Every user must have an account on your box, and the username and
  password must match that on the windows box in every detail - it is
  case-sensitive of course.  The fact that it's asking for the guest
  password suggests that you haven't done this.
 
  Webmin may not be installed - it isn't by default, I think - but it's
  worth having.
 
  If you are still having problems after that, paste your /etc/smb/conf
  into a message here.
 
  Anne

 I installed a SAMBA server for a client a couple of weeks ago, I have
 had untold troubles getting a single XPH client to talk, all the
 password files were synced, using smbpasswd, passwd and the user on XP
 were all in sync and same case. It worked until I rebooted on one
 ocassion! It was really weird! After spending many hours searching web
 and other sources I have come to the conclusion that networking in
 general is borked in XPhome. I have a suspicion that it is something to
 do with WINS resolution, but that is just a hunch as I do not posess a
 XP box.

 If anyone is using Samba, and XPhome, I would love to see/hear you
 tales!

 David.

 PS: I gave the client a Win2K box with sharing enabled as a local
 workaround till I get this sussed.









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Re: [expert] 9.2rc1 installer is alpha screws current system...

2003-09-05 Thread David Rankin
Get down Pierre! Don't beat around the bush, tell us what you think
woohooo..

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] 9.2rc1 installer is alpha  screws current system...


 On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:58:06 +1200 Michael Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

  Sounds like you are dual booting 9.1 and 9.2. and your boot into 9.2 is
  reasonably ok. There are steps that need to be made by you when dual
  booting linux.
 
  Both vmlinuz.2.4.21-XX.mdk and initrd.2.4.21-XX.mdk.img have to be
  copied from 9.1 /boot to 9.2 /boot. Then you replace the 'vmlinuz' in
  the 9.1 stanzas with the full name of the vmlinuz for 9.1(given above).
  Run /sbin/lilo to make this stick.
 
  Then you should be able to boot to 9.1 ok.
 
  Do the same for 9.1, copying the 9.2 files into 9.1 /boot. It is up to
  you if you run /sbin/lilo at this stage. Which OS do you want as
  default?
 
  Hopefully your other issues may be solved by this also.

 Boy...  you seem to completely misunderstand how lilo works, and how to
 use *separate* /boot directories on different partitions...
 # df  (sorted for clarity)
 FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
 /dev/hda1 485M   67M  393M  15% /# 9.1
 /dev/hda5 3.9G  2.5G  1.3G  68% /usr # 9.1
 /dev/hda6 485M  110M  350M  24% /var # 9.1
 /dev/hda7# swap
 /dev/hda8 985M   19M  916M   3% /tmp # shared
 /dev/hda9 485M   62M  398M  14% /92  # 9.2
 /dev/hda103.9G  754M  3.0G  21% /92usr   # 9.2
 /dev/hda11485M   49M  411M  11% /92/var  # 9.2
 /dev/hda124.9G  3.3G  1.3G  72% /home# shared
 /dev/hda134.9G  1.1G  3.5G  24% /usr/local   # shared
 /dev/hda145.8G  5.0G  564M  90% /ISO # **
 /dev/hda159.8G   34M  9.3G   1% /var/www # shared

 ** This is mounted by the installer (CD ISO images on this one), so it
 can't be mounted during the install.

 I don't use a shared /boot and there is no reason to copy kernel images
 between partitions -- just *properly* define the lilo stanzas.  9.1 and
 9.2 *each* have a /etc/lilo.conf -- while they can't be identical, with
 appropriate stanzas in each, they can produce the same MBR.

 Rreread what you snipped and try to understand what happened -- then you
 should see what Mdk's installer did wrong...

  On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 08:26:31 -0400
  Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  snip
 
   Loading USB printer modprobe: Can't open dependencies file
   /lib/modules/2.4.22-1mdk/modules.dep (No such file or directory)
   [FAIL
   ED]
   Huh??!!!  WTF!  That's not the kernel version in my 9.1...
   # uname -a
 
  /snip
 








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[expert] Virus guys!

2003-09-04 Thread David
If this is you, you need to detach from the internet and clean your
machine! 

You have been infected by Sobig virus.

David.

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Re: [expert] Re: Virus guys!

2003-09-04 Thread David
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 13:56, T. Ribbrock wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 01:34:08PM +0100, David wrote:
  If this is you, you need to detach from the internet and clean your
  machine! 
 
 Just an aside: You *are* aware of the fact, that Sobig  Co. pick
 random From addresses? I got tons of bounces from machines that
 thought I'd sent them a virus - and I don't even *have* a 'doze box...
 

Yes, the from address is easily spoofed, but this is the transport
headers that shows the details of the transaction between the MDK server
and the next hop. Less easily spoofed as it was injected into the mail
headers by the MDK mail server.

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Re: [expert] HOWTO Samba server with XPHome ME clients

2003-09-04 Thread David
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 20:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
 On Thursday 04 Sep 2003 5:57 pm, Niclas Jacobsson wrote:
  Hi All!
 
  I've got problems setting up a samba server for WinME  XPHome
  clients. Printersharing works like a charm but file/directory (oops
  sorry for the Win-terminology...) sharing seems difficult to get
  working. Resources setup with samba show up in explorer at the
  client but when accessed I get prompted for password (guest
  account) what is this password, where can I find it? and how do I
  set this up so that each Windows/client account can access shared
  resources without being prompted for pswd?? Is there an HOWTO
  somewhere that explains all this in detail?
 
  Thanks!
  Niclas
 
 Every user must have an account on your box, and the username and 
 password must match that on the windows box in every detail - it is 
 case-sensitive of course.  The fact that it's asking for the guest 
 password suggests that you haven't done this.
 
 Webmin may not be installed - it isn't by default, I think - but it's 
 worth having.
 
 If you are still having problems after that, paste your /etc/smb/conf 
 into a message here.
 
 Anne

I installed a SAMBA server for a client a couple of weeks ago, I have
had untold troubles getting a single XPH client to talk, all the
password files were synced, using smbpasswd, passwd and the user on XP
were all in sync and same case. It worked until I rebooted on one
ocassion! It was really weird! After spending many hours searching web
and other sources I have come to the conclusion that networking in
general is borked in XPhome. I have a suspicion that it is something to
do with WINS resolution, but that is just a hunch as I do not posess a
XP box.

If anyone is using Samba, and XPhome, I would love to see/hear you
tales!

David.

PS: I gave the client a Win2K box with sharing enabled as a local
workaround till I get this sussed.


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Re: [expert] dm in 9.2RC1 dying...

2003-09-03 Thread David Rankin
Joeb penned:

 Since .2 releases are supposed to be the most stable of the
 series (7.2, 8.2 and now 9.2)  I hope Mandrake would let the release
 date slip if needed for improved stability.

I whole-heartedly agree and encourage a slip to foster stability and a
polished release if required. I have tried virtually all version of mdk
since 7.0. I am still running 7.2 as a server because of the problems that
have been left in all releases since 7.2. To call 8.2 a victory in polish I
think misses the mark. But to be fair, 8.2 was born during the fight to go
from gcc 2.96 to the 3.0X variety that gave all of the major packages
headaches or hangovers depending on how you look at it.

Bottom line, forget focusing on just getting the next number release out
to stay ahead in the numbers game, get the next release out right. I've said
it before and I'll say it again, if 9.2 is as clean and reliable as 7.2
was/is, the mdk folks will have hit a home run.

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Subject: Re: [expert] dm in 9.2RC1 dying...


 Mark wrote:

 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Joeb wrote:
 
 
 
 Mark wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi all,
 
 Is anyone else seeing this happen? What I mean is the system boots just
 fine to the GUI login screen, but after I've logged out of my Xwindows
 session it doesn't remain in init 5, but drops to init 3, and the
console
 login appears. In order to get the GUI login screen back I've got to
drop
 to init 1 and then go to init 5.
 
 
 


 
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 There's already been a bug report submitted on it.  I think you can also
 get the dm back by logging in at the console prompt and typing: service
 -f dm   (you will need to be root or su to root).  After that, you won't
 get kicked out of the dm until you reboot and logout the first time.
 Hopefully, it will be fixed for RC2.
 
 
 Joeb
 
 
 
 
 Awesome...thanks Joeb. By the way...when is the scheduled release date of
 RC2?
 
 - -- 
 Mark
 
 
 Hopefully, not until it's finished!  It seems that the RC introduced a
 bunch of problems that weren't in the last beta.  Most, but not all seem
 to be cleared up in cooker.  I haven't actually heard of a release
 date.  Since .2 releases are supposed to be the most stable of the
 series (7.2, 8.2 and now 9.2)  I hope Mandrake would let the release
 date slip if needed for improved stability.

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Re: [expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
 hardware -- overheating, low power, gremlins.

Well, it was gremlins in the other system -- actually the power cable to the
drives was a bit flaky, so anything that would access the drive (ex. df, ls,
etc.) would hang, with a corresponding linear increase in the overall
load average.

This time, it's different -- and it seems to have gone away in the last
urpmi --auto-select.

 lacking access to /proc would do that -- any difference if root? msec up
 at 4 or 5?

msec is standard; I don't raise it higher. root would hang as well as a user.
No difference there.

Reboot  urpmi seems to have fixed this problem -- now there's no kicker 
panel on my kde. D*thing came up in twm :(

 Jack Coates
 Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...

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Re: [expert] spoofed?

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
 Get a router/NAT/firewall that enables spoof protection.

Well, yep. I was hoping for something I could do in software to detect 
and or stop this gremlin. 

 HaywireMac

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Re: [expert] Poll: Successful Boot Disk Creation

2003-09-02 Thread David E. Fox
 Define successful?

Doing it without running out of disk space would be successful. Of course, 
if it actually boots the right partition it would be even better.

I've been able to do this in 9.0. LX and I hashed over this; it seems 
that the kernels are SoBig :) now that there's not enough room on the floopy
for syslinux/grub (or lilo)/initrd and the kernel.
 
 Boots the system with some problems identifying the CD ROM as an SCSI device 
 with dialogue to change devices, asks does one want to run the configuration 

Have you done this with 9.2?

 I may not create a boot floppy the right way? This is also on a standard 
 kernel. 2.4.21-0.13mdk

Hmm. How big was that?

1337954 Aug 25 08:47 vmlinuz-2.4.22-1mdk


 Format floppy to DOS filesystem
 Place into the floppy drive but do not mount

Back in the old days:

format floppy
cp /boot/zImage /dev/fd0
rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/hdX

That's from memory, and I may have the parameters reversed. It was always
a trick remembering the order for rdev. The intent is to simply ocpy the
kernel onto a good floppy and then rdev it -- this sets the root device, 
which you'd fill in with wherever your root happened to be.

If we go back to that mode, at least the kernel will fit on the floppy
by itself. If not, it's time to figure out why the kernels in 9.x are 
SoBig ;). In particular, lots of stuff is modularized so they're not in 
the monolithic kernel image.

Otherwise, hack drakboot to make disks with more sectors per track
than the default DOS format. After all, we aren't running DOS, so why
stick with 1.44mb floppies if you can tweak the format for 1.6 meg? 


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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread David Rankin
Mates:

Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer issue
appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a packet fragmentation or
rabbit pellet packet fragmentation problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
same type of problem could have reared its head again.

I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
archive search for packet fragmentation or rabbit pellet to get the
history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.

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 On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
  Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
  in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
 
  You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
 
  go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
  Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
 
  remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
 
 First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had already
 tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the above
 key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB
of
 data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far and
my
 guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
 server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes or
 less!!

  The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc in
  question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
 
  Also take a look at
 

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
 , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
  sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
 
  Just some thoughts,
 
 Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it is
 somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today, so
 I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a fix
for
 this.

 If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
 problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
 special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
fast.
 Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
What
 is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
Mandrake I
 don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it has
 been premature. I just thought of this.
  Michael
 
  --
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  Core Systems Group
  Simple End User Linux
 
  At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
  On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
   Greg Meyer wrote:
   On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
   I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
Samba.
   I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not
received
   any answers resolving the issue.
   
   When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a Win2000
box
   it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box to
   either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at around
1/3
   the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected
behavior?
   
   I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other way.
Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it
always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the windows
machines, not the samba machines.
  
   Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect Windows
   configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
  
  I would agree from smb to smb, but I really don't believe this is an
  incorrect windows configuration issue. There is a fundamental issue
that
   I believe Microsoft has done to deliberately break or slow samba. I
may
   be wrong, but I've not seen a solution yet. I did read somewhere that
you
   now
 
  no
 
  longer need netbios resolution for XP to work, but I don't think this
is
   the problem. If anything that would help without a wins server. ??
  
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread David Rankin

Brian wrote:

 Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
 If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
 noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).


Brings up a good point. Specifically, how many hubs are we talking
about? Are there more than 2 hubs between the mdk and XP box? If it's a 1
hub small network, DNS and NETBIOS braodcasts shouldn't be that much of an
issue.

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 On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 10:44, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
  lorne wrote:
 
  On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
  
  
  Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
possibly
  in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
  
  You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
  
  go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
  Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
  
  remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
  
  
  
  First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already
  tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above
  key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring
285MB of
  data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and my
  guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
linux
  server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or
  less!!
  
 
  This illustrates my point perfectly.  When you initiated the transfer on
  the Linux box it took around two minutes to do the transfer, and you
  called it fast (blast).  I repeated that behavior in my own setup.  I
  got the same results when initiating the transfer on my Mandrake box
  using Konqueror and command line (cp).  I call it slow because when I
  initiate the transfer on the Win2000 box, using Windows Explorer, I get
  the same transfer done in under a minute.  Why the huge difference in
speed?
 
  A two minute transfer for a file that size may be fast compared to a
  totally broken setup, but it is still half as fast as it should be.  The
  question is: what needs to be done to have file transfers initiated in
  Linux get the same transfer speed experienced when they are initiated by
  Windows?
 
  The same thing can be said for transfers between Linux and Linux.  It
  experiences the same crippled transfer speed.  The common thread being
  the transfer is initiated on a Linux box.
 

 Remember though, this particular network is on a HUB, i.e. half-duplex.
 If there is any other sort of traffic what-so-ever it's going to be
 noticeably slower (DNS lookups, Net-BT broadcasts, etc).

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread David Rankin
For what it's worth, here is more info than needed on smb and CIFS.

http://ubiqx.org/cifs/index.html#Contents

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 Mates:

 Here is another clue that may help get to the bottom of this. Back in
 the 7.2 days when Samba 2.0X, 2.1X was comming out, the slow transfer
issue
 appeared with Win98 transfers. The 2 gig limit was also there. The slow
 transfer from win to mdk was discussed as a packet fragmentation or
 rabbit pellet packet fragmentation problem by Civileme. The Samba folks
 also worked the issue. The issue was evidently resolved for win98, but the
 same type of problem could have reared its head again.

 I tried to do a archive search for this issue, but for some reason the
 archive search daemon would not connect. Anyway, I would suggest an expert
 archive search for packet fragmentation or rabbit pellet to get the
 history of the issue. M$ may have changed smb just enough to recreate this
 condition and the Samba folks may have some more work to do.

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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 11:45 AM
 Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


  On Monday 01 September 2003 08:10 pm, Michael Viron wrote:
   Seems like this is related to the stuff discussed in
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321169 and
 possibly
   in http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;321098 .
  
   You may also want to try running regedit to do the following:
  
   go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/Software/Microsoft/Windows/Current
   Version/Explorer/RemoteComputer/NameSpace in the registry
  
   remove {D6277990-4C6A-11CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF} .
  
  First I apologize for not reporting what I found yesterday. I had
already
  tried the top two things to no avail yesterday. I tried removing the
above
  key and it made no difference at all. As we speak I'm transferring 285MB
 of
  data from the Linux box to the XP box and it has been 8 minutes so far
and
 my
  guess is that it will take another 9 - 10 minutes. If I do it from my
 linux
  server and copy it to the xp box, it will blast over in about 2 minutes
or
  less!!
 
   The above key instructs windows to look for scheduled tasks on the pc
in
   question (which may slow done browsing by at least 30s).
  
   Also take a look at
  
 

http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Windows/Windows_XP/?tc=1
  , which includes about a hundred windows xp related
   sites of tips / tweaks / guides and howtos.
  
   Just some thoughts,
  
  Thanks a bunch Michael. I've started looking them over. As you know, it
is
  somewhat like looking for a needle in a haystack. I'm home sick today,
so
  I'll do some more googling to see if someone has come up with a fix
 for
  this.
 
  If I forgot to mention, SP1 does NOT make a difference for my particular
  problem. Also, I'm using mdk 9.1 with out of the box Samba. Nothing
  special. I'm running 100Bt Half duplex hub. XP to XP fast. XP to ME
 fast.
  Linux to XP fast. XP to Linux slow. ??? This one has me stumped.
 What
  is interesting is I swear when I was running older versions of
 Mandrake I
  don't recall this slowness. So even though I've bashed XP, perhaps it
has
  been premature. I just thought of this.
   Michael
  
   --
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   Core Systems Group
   Simple End User Linux
  
   At 04:30 PM 9/1/2003 -0700, you wrote:
   On Monday 01 September 2003 03:48 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
Greg Meyer wrote:
On Monday 01 September 2003 03:13 pm, Brant Fitzsimmons wrote:
I was the one who asked the question about slow transfers using
 Samba.
I asked on this list and on the newbie list.  Still have not
 received
any answers resolving the issue.

When a transfer to or from a Samba box is initiated from a
Win2000
 box
it flies.  When the same transfer is initiated from a Samba box
to
either another Samba box, or to a Win2000 box, it crawls at
around
 1/3
the speed of the Win2000 initiated transfer.  Is this expected
 behavior?

I think the op of this thread had the slowness going the other
way.
 Samba to XP is fast, while XP to samba is fast.  In any case, it
 always seems to be a problem with the configuration of the
windows
 machines, not the samba machines.
   
Windows to Samba was only half of my comment.  An incorrect Windows
configuration doesn't explain a slow Samba to Samba transfer.
   
   I would agree from smb to smb, but I really

Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread David Rankin
See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157

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Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


 On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
  On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
 
  Okay,
 
  Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both ways. I've
not
  even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total (without
  subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the fast! Not sure yet
what
  else I'll dig up.

 This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.

 Fast transfer uses about

 protocols

 nbss 1/4+ total
 smb 1/4- total
 tcp1/2 total



 Slow transfers

 nbss 5/8 total
 smb 1/16 total
 tcp 1/3? total


 Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
differences.
 The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer from XP
window
 size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.

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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread David Rankin
Lorne

You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to pull
out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation of
smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS for
XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The site
I posted earlier but can't find now, the ubhix something like that
suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.

I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it sounds
identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.

Another site that looks promising is
http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation
issue by follow the test specified.

Good luck.

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From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


 On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
  On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
   On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
  
 I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little executable
that
 did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the
registry
 to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the window
size
 to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good news.
The
 bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds to
copy
 an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It went
too
 quickly.

   What is odd about this web site is that even though it says 2000/XP...
   virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP doesn't have those
key
   settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference to
   window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
 
  OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp.
 
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
   
 On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
  On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
 
  Okay,
 
  Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both
ways.
  I've
   
not
   
  even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total
  (without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the
fast!
  Not sure yet
   
what
   
  else I'll dig up.

 This may prove useful after all. Here is what I've further dug up.

 Fast transfer uses about

 protocols

 nbss 1/4+ total
 smb 1/4- total
 tcp1/2 total



 Slow transfers

 nbss 5/8 total
 smb 1/16 total
 tcp 1/3? total


 Very rough and probably don't add up to 100% but definately some
   
differences.
   
 The thing that just popped up at me was that the slow transfer
from
 XP
   
window
   
 size of 10220. Linux is using 64240.

 Now is this enough for some clever fellow to tell how to modify
 Winders?
   
  
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Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`

2003-09-02 Thread David Rankin
Well, you're right about there being something suspicious about the way XP
does business. Browsing win98 clients is just slow as sh you know.
That's even after the registry tweaks that are supposed to fix the browse
problem. Secondly, MS crippled XP to allow no more than 5 simo network
connections rendering it useless as an impromptu file server. I have XP pro
at home, but it is also on the same box as linux rendering it useless to
test the file transfer issue. There is an answer somewhere...and
let me know when you find out what it is.

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- Original Message - 
From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`


 On Tuesday 02 September 2003 06:23 pm, David Rankin wrote:
  Lorne
 
  You got me?? Beyond some tangential knowledge of the past packet
  fragmentation issue and the CIFS protocol, I don't have any rabbits to
pull
  out of my hat. As far as smb is concerned it seems M$'s implementation
of
  smb(CIFS) is new and unique to XP/2000. I suspect in implementing CIFS
for
  XP, M$ has only loosely followed the RFC and has done so by design. The
  site I posted earlier but can't find now, the ubhix something like
  that suggests that the CIFS variety of smb has done just that.
 
 I've been suspicious of a change in the way XP does business, but can't
put my
 finger on it. I may take my traces to an Extreme engineer and see if he
can
 lay his finger on it.

  I don't have a test machine to confirm what you are seeing, but it
sounds
  identical to the samba 2.07 problem that gave win98 fits.
 
  Another site that looks promising is
  http://hr.uoregon.edu/davidrl/samba/samba-optimize.html See 7.2 Socket
  Options. You may be able to either rule in or rule out the fragmentation
  issue by follow the test specified.
 
 I am not seeing fragmentation in the trace. It does do things slightly
 differently, but I've had a hard time really dissecting it today. I'm
going
 to read and tinker with the above suggestions I think. For now, I'll just
 have to transfer from linux to xp. I use my mdk box more often anyhow. :)
 I have the bigger drives in the XP box. Guess I'll just use the XP box for
 storage. hahaha

  Good luck.
 
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  Rankin * Bertin, PLLC
  510 Ochiltree Street
  Nacogdoches, Texas 75961
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  From: lorne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
 
   On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:29 pm, lorne wrote:
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 03:26 pm, lorne wrote:
 On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:40 pm, David Rankin wrote:
  See http://www.speedguide.net/read_articles.php?id=157
  
   I DID go to a web site to download tweaks. There was a little
executable
 
  that
 
   did allow for increasing the window size. I've not dug back into the
 
  registry
 
   to see where it made the change, but it has indeed opened up the
window
 
  size
 
   to 62420 now. So now the frame count is the same. That is the good
news.
 
  The
 
   bad news it is just a slow. ??? frame count 9,000 roughly. 65 seconds
to
 
  copy
 
   an 8mb file to linux. From linux to Xp about 5 seconds or less. It
went
 
  too
 
   quickly.
  
 What is odd about this web site is that even though it says
 2000/XP... virtually all the settings are specific to XP. XP
doesn't
 have those
 
  key
 
 settings. ?? I doubt I want to add those. I can find no reference
to
 window size on support.microsoft.com either. Odd.
   
OOOPS!! I meant specific to 2000 NOT Xp.
   
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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [expert] Slow SMB file transfers to XP`
 
   On Tuesday 02 September 2003 02:04 pm, lorne wrote:
On Tuesday 02 September 2003 01:46 pm, lorne wrote:
   
Okay,
   
Maybe a small breakthrough. I transfered the same file both
 
  ways.
 
I've
 
  not
 
even analyzed it yet, but there is 25% more frames total
(without subtracting arps or anything) in the slow than the
 
  fast!
 
Not sure yet
 
  what
 
else I'll dig up

[expert] urpmi lccked

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
This just in 

9.2 rc1 cooker... the software manager seems to be broken, and I can't
add any sources - was trying to revamp the sources to include the new CDs 
as opposed to the old ones. Software Manager quietly dies after I tell it
where to go for the CD.

Also I tried to add in cooker main and contrib and can't get anywyere...
so I just removed /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/rurpmi etc. Now the whole urpmi 
subsystem is hosed. I just want to rebuild it from scratch, include 
main/contrib/plf as well as the local cd sources list but can't do any-
thing now as it just says the thing is locked

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
 Look for a lock file (.lck ?) probably in the same directory as the 
 urpmi sources or under /var. Then delete it.

Nothing there. Well, I fixed at least partially the problem by remaking
urpmi directories underneath /var/lib and /var/cache just to be on the
safe side. Adding distribution media was not too difficult but I'm not
sure I did it properly -- for instance, installing Open Office from the
9.1rc1 distribution media gave 'I can't find it messages because many
of the base packages for that are on CD #2. It should have asked to
change disks, rather than have me redo the urpmi with cd#2 inserted.

I'm off to rebuild the rest of the urpmi database, thanks to
plf.zarb.org. Gotta love that site...

  Richard Urwin

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Re: [expert] urpmi lccked

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
 As I said, the problem with the gui does not (for me) preclude using the 
 command line urpmi.addmedia.  It might help to replace the files you 

No, it shouldn't. I figured that it might be easier to add the
distribution media (actually replace them, based on new content) with
the media manager. I found that adding in the distribution media via
urpmi.addmedia will work, but it's failing on asking for a disk change,
see my other post to the list on this.

 rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
 ?

Not relevant to my situation. It was missing directories. It sometimes
helps to do an strace if one comes across some sort of an error message
- it's usually going to offer a clue as to what files it's trying to
access at that point.

In my situation, the urpmi database locked comes from not being able
to access the directory /var/lib/urpmi. I created it manually, and it
works. But urpmi should have been able to detect the missing
files/directories and rebuild from scratch. It would have had to do this
following a new install.

 
 Did you urpmi.removemedia -a
 ?

Yes, but not the way I should have -- I ended up just removing the 
/etc/urpmi files :(.  


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[expert] locked -- ps related stuff

2003-09-01 Thread David E. Fox
What would cause the following - other than hardware issues - I've only
seen this type of behavior a log time ago when I had intermittent power
to my HD drives.

And that was with an older system.

Specifically, any number of ps/w/top or related commands are hanging the
shell. urpmi.update -a also hangs the shell. I am in the middle of a backup
and so far have had to abort it twice and restart because of this. These
processes are blocking so that I end up with a very high load average -- at
present it is over 20.

Surprisingly, system response is speedy - it's just that the system thinks
each of these processes is one that's waiting in the run queue, which of 
course, they are.

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Re: [expert] iptables - any way to log?

2003-08-31 Thread David Guntner
Bill grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 On Star Date Saturday 30 August 2003 11:17 am, David Guntner sent this
 sub-space message.

 I am trying to use -j REJECT because I want to reject the packet.  I
 also want to log it.  However, I see that my problem was that I was
 trying to do a -j REJECT LOG --log-prefix ... on the command, which
 resulted in my getting an error message.  Apparently you can't specify
 both.  Tell me, if I do it as *two* commands, one with -j REJECT and
 one with -j LOG, will *both* rules fire when an offending packet comes
 in?  I.E., will it reject the packet and then log it?  Or will it only
 act on whatever rule was entered first/last?

 Good question. Im still trying to see when I get a droped packet form an
 ip that I have set to have its packets droped when it trys to connect.
 Its an email server that has been sending out those .pif virus files.  I
 get logs for everything but havnt seen any that say droped. Maybe someone
 here on the list knows whats up for that.

Well, I kept digging through the man page, and found a note that said that
if you want to log packets that you're rejecting, put in two rules.  The
first one should be the LOG rule, then the second should be the DROP or
REJECT.  So I guess the answer is found! :-)

 I also use colorlogs.pl to colorize my log while I am using tail -f
 this way I can see when I get a hit for iptables. I have it set for
 bright red and if someone logs in as root it set as blinking bright red

 That sounds like a useful utility.  Where can I get it?

I could still use an answer to that last question. :-)  I tried searching
freshmeat.net, but a search for colorlogs.pl didn't turn up anything.  Do
you remember where you got it?

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Re: [expert] iptables - any way to log?

2003-08-30 Thread David Guntner
Jack Coates grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-08-29 at 13:51, David Guntner wrote:

 I'm setting up some iptables rules to block certain kinds of packets on
 my ML 9.1 machine.  The man page talks about logging options to have it
   
 log to the syslog, but I can't seem to figure out the exact syntax to
 make it work.  No matter how I try, I keep getting a bad option message
 in response.  Does anyone know what the actual syntax is on an iptables
 command to have it log when that particular reject rule is fired?

--Dave

 man iptables
 /log
 keep hitting  / until you see something helpful.

 there is a page full of options.

I already did that, hence the statement that the man page talks about
logging options. :-)  Problem is, there are no practical *examples* of
the syntax to use, and my reading of the section on logging didn't yield
anything I could use.  Hence my request here for an example syntax to use.

 You've already got shorewall on there, it'll be a lot faster and safer
 to just use it.

Shorewall would be great if I wanted all kinds of fancy firewalling.  But
I'm behind a DSL router and that takes care of the vast majority of my
needes.  But I need to put three rules into iptables to take care of a
specific need.  The rules are already in place, in fact.  However, I would
like to be able to log traffic that's blocked if I can.  So if you have
some information on what the correct syntax is, I would appreciate an
example - because I can't seem to come up with a syntax that works, going
off of the man page.

   --Dave


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Re: [expert] iptables - any way to log?

2003-08-30 Thread David Guntner
Bill grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 You can look on the web for iptables log which is where I found what I
 use.

 -A INPUT -i eth0 -p udp -m limit --limit 10/hour -j LOG --log-prefix
 IPTABLES UDP-IN: 

Ah, ok.  Now I see what I was doing wrong.

I am trying to use -j REJECT because I want to reject the packet.  I
also want to log it.  However, I see that my problem was that I was trying
to do a -j REJECT LOG --log-prefix ... on the command, which resulted in
my getting an error message.  Apparently you can't specify both.  Tell me,
if I do it as *two* commands, one with -j REJECT and one with -j LOG,
will *both* rules fire when an offending packet comes in?  I.E., will it
reject the packet and then log it?  Or will it only act on whatever rule
was entered first/last?

 I also use colorlogs.pl to colorize my log while I am using tail -f this
 way I can see when I get a hit for iptables. I have it set for bright red
 and if someone logs in as root it set as blinking bright red

That sounds like a useful utility.  Where can I get it?

Thanks for the info!

  --Dave


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