Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
HaywireMac wrote: On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 07:28:59 +0800 Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: I had similar probs with 9..2 that I had with earlier versions.. I had to manually remove postfix (with --nodeps in my case) and reinstall it to get it working properly. I found that although it was running, it wasn't running properly till I did that.. no idea why. (and it was a clean 9,2 install, not an upgrade.) and this was in conjunction with fetchmail? Nope, but thats irrelivent... fetchmail passes the mail to postfix (the MTA) and postfix passes it to procmail for local delivery.. So if postfix aint working properly, then fetchmail isn't going to be able to pass to it which was your problem right? rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK9.2 package arrived - Qs and comments
Daryl Johnson wrote: On Wednesday 12 Nov 2003 3:44 pm, stefmit wrote: Hi, fellow MDK-ers. I may be repeating myself, but I am not as much of a MDK geek, as a network person trying to use (and paying for it!) the MDK solution as underlying system for my network and security tools ... this as an introduction (to point my end-user status, if you will, and how many customers of MDK may perceive the issues) ;) I pre-ordered and just got the 9.2 package, and I already have some questions: 1. I have been reading on this list and its archives about tons of problems with the new release. I have already run into one that some others may have experienced (doing an online update screwed up afterwards all the menus I had in KDE). Had this one myself - twice. Encountered having done a clean 9.2 install. Resolved by doing a clean 9.1 install and then upgrading to 9.2 I've had no re-occurrence of the problem. (BTW doing a clean 9.2 install also gave me some n/w configuration problems. Mdk still need to work on their n/w installer eh? ;o) ) regards Daryl easier answer is just running menudrake and just clicking save.. instant fix. worked fine for me. rgds franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Problems retrieving mail: fetchmail: smtp listener protocol error
HaywireMac wrote: On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 17:38:45 -0500 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Postfix starts OK on boot, and when I issue the command service postfix restart, it does restart, but just gives me those warnings. Warnings aren't errors and IIRC, I was running Postfix on my system for a full month before I added my fake domain name just to get the warning to stop and even now it is still not a FQHN but that doesn't seem to matter to anyone, certainly not Postfix. I am pretty sure that Postfix will run even without a hostname as long as your machine has a name. Exactly, and when I run fetchmail on my other box, which is still running 9.1, and has no FQDN or aliases configured or anything, it works perfectly. This is definitely a problem specific to 9.2. Could it be the zeroconf stuff in 9.2. If you ran the network setup utility, it might have set a hostname for you with the tmdns stuff. Is this specific to 9.2? I checked in there, but i cancelled out because I wasn't even sure what Zeroconf is I had similar probs with 9..2 that I had with earlier versions.. I had to manually remove postfix (with --nodeps in my case) and reinstall it to get it working properly. I found that although it was running, it wasn't running properly till I did that.. no idea why. (and it was a clean 9,2 install, not an upgrade.) rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Frickin spam and spamassassin
Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 OK, this really irritates me. I have the latest spamassassin. It is running in daemon mode. I have procmail setup to /dev/null anything that is identified as spam. I have trained the Bayesian filter (supposedly) to identify certain messages as spam...BUT THEY KEEP GETTING THROUGH! These are tricky html or other type of spam, they are plain text. Generally they are viagra messages. The one that really galls me is one that uses the name [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of the actual proper spelling. Nonetheless, this shouldn't matter...or so one would think. I have now run sa-learn --spam --dir Mail/Spam/cur twice on this message. It comes back saying it learned from the message. About 10 minutes later that damn message is back and spamassassin let it come right through. What the hell? I REALLY want to nuke the computer from which this comes. I was doing so well there with nary a spam for weeks getting through, then something inane and seemingly simple like this gets through inspite of teaching spamassassin to recognize it as crap. Since spamassassin appears to be falling down on the job, what would be a nice generic procmail recipe that would recognize EITHER iteration of viagra spelling (in the body or subject) and pass it, no pass go, to /dev/null? I never ever ever want to see another damn viagra message of any kind ever again. Thank you for any aid in this endeavor. praedor - -- Thats very interestnig.. I get about 80ish spam a day now.. increasing slowly, sometimes up to 120 a day, I have spamassassin/amavis-new/filescan but the spamassassin is only 2.55. I get maybe one or two slip though a day, and the spam filter in thunderbird captures those.. So I have a 99% effective spam filtering system,, and I am not using any external spamassassin tests. That is my suggestion for you though, try turning on some of external tests in spamassassin, it does slow things down abit, but it can be very useful and spamassassin will learn from it.. The interesting thing, is that so many of the tricks spammers are usign to get around spam filters, are not working here.. a quick look throuugh the spam folder shows that nearly all of the messages are purposely incorrectly spelled and full of gibberish, and they still get caught. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Modem for Mandrake 9.1
Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote: Hi List! I'm looking for recommendations of hard/soft modem for Mandrake Linux 9.1. A link would help a lot also. I had problems with Lucent and Pctel (softmodem). Any suggestion? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Well, any external serial modem is good to go.. and probably your best option.. but having said that, I've had very good results with conextant winmodems.. there are mandrake rpm's available for them off the net. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] (OT)Uh..... Am I alone in noticing the insanity?
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Just as an aside: Did you post a report to MandrakeBizCases? http://www.mandrakebizcases.com/modules.php?name=Submit_News They are always glad to hear such things and the numerous reports on the site serve well as argumentation help for people trying to persuade their boss to have a look at Mandrake Linux. wobo They are more interested in reports from the actual business owners, not their IT guy. I did let them know of my own uses of mandrake as web/file/dns servers etc some time ago. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] providing an SSL and non SSL way of accessing each domains www and cgi-bin.
Brian V Bonini wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-08 at 13:44, Franki wrote: I think you are not understanding what I mean.. Right now, I have the cert bound to my secure.my-domain.com subdomain.. I don't need the cert to work with any other domains... I just want to create a way whereby I can give my users the ability to each use my secure.my-domain.com subdomain to access their files. files via SSL.. What I was thinking was you could set up was a wild card that would work like: https://*.my-domain.com Then each of the sites could have a cname to utilize your cert. https://domain1.my-domain.com https://domain2.my-domain.com etc Anyway, what happens if you symlink secure.my-domain.com/theirusername to the document root for their-domain.com? Yeah, I understand wildcard certs.. but one would not make my job any easier for this task.. Funnily enough I did something similar to what you just suggested. I have setup a secure webroot which contains one dir for each host.. The dirs are symlinked to the users web root.. like cgi-ssl so they can easily put stuff in those directories like normal. seems to be working. but I'd have prefered a simplier answer.. no matter, It's working, that will do for now... rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] providing an SSL and non SSL way of accessing each domains www and cgi-bin.
Hi guys, I have about two dozen virtual named hosts setup on my server. all with their own domain or sub domain and thats all working fine (apache2 mdk9.2) I also have a SSL cert seton on one subdomain, secure.mydomain.com Now I want to give people a way of accessing their www and cgi-bin from either their own domain (which is as it is now) or via the https://secure.x.com domain... so it would work like this: http://their-domain.com/cgi-bin/somefile.pl would be accessing the same file as: https://secure.my-domain.com/username/cgi-bin/somefile.pl accept the first one is just normal HTTP 1.1 and the second would be SSL.. That way people who need to, can make use of the cert.. Is there a way to do this??? I realise the probs with virt named hosting and SSL.. but what I am asking is not releated to that.. I do not want to setup SSL on the vhost, I want to create a way for vhost users to access their web files from my ssh secure domain name, as well as their own domain name.. have I explained what I mean well enough to be understood??? Anyone got any tips on this?? I know it can be done because alot of online hosts offer it.. I'm just not sure how.. I had created a cgi-bin for each user in the secure.xxx.com doc root and symlinked it to their normal web dir.. but their has to be an easier way.. ( I have only a dozen vhosts now, but thats likely to grow pretty quickly.) Any ideas guys??? much appreciated. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] providing an SSL and non SSL way of accessing each domains www and cgi-bin.
Brian V Bonini wrote: What you want to do is set up a wild card certificate. Unfortunately I don't personally know how but I've used them before and they work exactly as you describe. I think you are not understanding what I mean.. Right now, I have the cert bound to my secure.my-domain.com subdomain.. I don't need the cert to work with any other domains... I just want to create a way whereby I can give my users the ability to each use my secure.my-domain.com subdomain to access their files. files via SSL.. Say for example they normally use the following to access their files: http://their-domain.com/cgi-bin/somefile.pl I want to create a way whereby they can use my cert, and my subdomain to access their files as well.. for example: https://secure.my-domain.com/their-username/cgi-bin/somefile.pl Does that make sense??? rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] powerDNS
Hi guys, I was just looking though a 9.2 contribs mirror and noticed powerDNS... (more specifically I noticed a mysql powerDNS package.) Reading though here: http://downloads.powerdns.com/documentation/html/ I seems that powerDNS can use everything from Named zone files to databses... I like the idea of it running from a mysql DB, because I could then knock up a protected php app to easily add new domains/sub domainsetc... But before I start playing with that, I figured it might be wise to ask the pros here if they have any thoughts on it... would mysql lookups be slower then traditional Bind or DjbDNS??? is there any downside to using a DB for the backend of a DNS server? normally I have a master xSQL server on the network, but for faster lookups I spose I'd put one localhost on the DNS box. My experiance in total is with Bind, which is sad I know, but I got familiar with zone files early on, and found DJBDNS hard to think in terms of its config. (Also, I'd prefer to stay totally GPL where I can.) Anyway, I'm just begging for opinions here... has anyone used powerDNS (I assume someone on cooker/expert is becuase it wouldn't be in contrib otherwise.) rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Help - my box has been compromised!
My advice, which again will look like a cop-out, but in actuality is very serious, is that you switch to qmail. Vincent Danen, rpmhelp.net LX No doubt about it, Qmail is a good package... but postfix is pretty good also and it might be worth finding out what the problem is... I have postfix setup here to process the mail for about 9 domains (and counting) and I've not had a prob with open relay.. In fact my email log report shows about 30 odd failed relay attempts a day... rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cooker update with newer packages
Gary Hodder wrote: On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 01:15, Franki wrote: Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2003 02:54 am, Gary Hodder wrote: No. It's just that Cooker is now fully open again, and the development for MDK 10.0 is getting up to speed... We have been in a Deep Freeze since the 9.2 Freeze, with only updates for syncking with amd64 development branch... now it's done, so syncing a 9.2 install with Cooker is no longer really an option, unless you want to break your system from time to time... So does that mean wear about to see the public release of 9.2? One has nothing to do with the other. Actually, if you look around, you can find copies of 9.2 online already.. I just downloaded the 3 CD's from an Australian server and the Md5's match up with the release version (not RC2). so it is out there... A quick seach on google showed a couple of other sites with it as well. rgds Franki I just finished downloading the first cd from ausgamers, the iso was 667mb and the iso was full of rubbish. That was a days waisted download. I got them from here: http://mirror.wa.3fl.net/pub/mandrake/9.2/ checked the md5's and installed, all went good. rgds Frank -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Cooker update with newer packages
Greg Meyer wrote: On Wednesday 05 November 2003 02:54 am, Gary Hodder wrote: No. It's just that Cooker is now fully open again, and the development for MDK 10.0 is getting up to speed... We have been in a Deep Freeze since the 9.2 Freeze, with only updates for syncking with amd64 development branch... now it's done, so syncing a 9.2 install with Cooker is no longer really an option, unless you want to break your system from time to time... So does that mean wear about to see the public release of 9.2? One has nothing to do with the other. Actually, if you look around, you can find copies of 9.2 online already.. I just downloaded the 3 CD's from an Australian server and the Md5's match up with the release version (not RC2). so it is out there... A quick seach on google showed a couple of other sites with it as well. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] making the upgrade to 9.2 apache 1.3 or 2.x ?..
hi guys, I am in the middle of downloading the mandrake 9.2 iso's from a local server in Australia (no bandwidth charges if I get it from local mirror).. I didn't even know it was available for public download yet.. there is no reference to them being the RC's, and the last modified date is today.. The details are: MandrakeLinux-9.2_disk1of3.i586.iso 03-Nov-2003 08:25 652M MandrakeLinux-9.2_disk2of3.i586.iso 03-Nov-2003 04:44 698M MandrakeLinux-9.2_disk3of3.i586.iso 04-Nov-2003 16:36 548M Anyway, assuming they are the real thing my next step will be to make a CD of all the updates up till now.. Then I will start trying to replace my 9.0 servers, (I need several newer packages then 9.0 came with and don't think compiling them from scatch is the best answer.). So, onto my question.. I currently use apache 1.3x on 9.0 and I am considering the change to 9.2 and apache 2.x I have many virtual name hosts, digital cert and stuff running on the current server, and I am concerned about how hard it its going to be to upgrade.. does apache 2 use the same Vhosts settings?? I heard something to the effect that http and http-perl are no longer seperate processes, is this true? what about integration with openSSL and the use of certs? has that changed much? Has anyone done this and is able to advise me of troubles I might face? I ask because several clients use this one server and its been rock solid on 9.0 hoping to not break that reliability.. Is there anything else I should be wary off or look into before/during/after I upgrade? (I will be upgrading a DNS bind server, a postfix/amavis-new/trophie mail server, irc server, mysql server etc...) One of these days I will get around to learning the ins and outs of Djbdns, but for now I'm stuck with Bind. kindest regards Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line
Lawson, Jim wrote: What does this mean for the future of Mandrake? I know that Mandrake is based on red hat's rpm's.. No, That used to be the case.. nowdays mandrake rolls its own RPM's and has for some time now... I imagine this is good news for mandrake as there will be a ton of redhat users looking around for a new distro... rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Novell acquires SuSE!! What does this mean for Mand rake?
Lawson, Jim wrote: I know Novell needs this to get back in the game against MS. I think it's a good move. They were always Number 1 in networking until MS under priced them out. I know a lot of people might say this is bad for Linux but I think it's good. Novell has serious network experience and was a serious server and to endorse Linux says a lot. -Original Message- From: Robert Fox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Novell acquires SuSE!! What does this mean for Mandrake? Would it have been better if Mandrake were acquired instead? Strange times ahead . . . Comments? This could be very good for mandrake... first redhat drops out of the free desktop arena... Then SUSE gets aquired by Novel which is much more likely to target the enterprise market as well... That leaves Mandrake as the biggest contender in the desktop market.. possibly the only newbie friendly one left (apart from Lindows and Xandros, which don't have free versions to bring the newbies in...) rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interesting wireless driver tool
Greg Meyer wrote: On Thursday 30 October 2003 10:36 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: This may allow the Intel Centrino wireless garbage to work. It is garbage because Intel SAID they would support linux but they backtracked and have not released any linux drivers. For their failure to follow through I have boycotted using their systems (CPU, etc) in favor of AMD. This isn't enough to get me to change my mind, though for others who have centrino systems but have to live with the fact that they are all but useless under linux, this may be a way to make use of your investment. I have done the same, but in the laptop world, there is not as much choice. I just ordered an IBM T41 but replaced the Intel WiFi card with a Cisco Aironet which is supported in 9.2. As I shopped around, it looked like the only real choice in an AMD laptop was HP. As I am not entirely happy with their **on the fence** support of SCO, I had a hard time buying an HP machine. That, on top of the fact that Intel got it right with the Pentium M, and that IBM had a wireless alternative and they actually had documents on their own website about installing Linux on the thing made my choice pretty clear. The keyboard light sealed the deal. Dell doesn't have a wireless option that has linux support, not to mention they don't support AMD and give lip service to Linux. I understand that they get massive discounts from Intel and Microsoft for maintaining their exclusivity, but that doesn't mean I have to buy it just because it is cheaper. Also, Dell just looks cheaper, but when you really price it out with all the options, a comparable D600 to the T41 was the same price. I wish I had waited another month before buying my Dell 5150 This is what I'd be getting instead: http://qditech.com.au/AMD_K8.htm Athlon64 3200+ Radeon M10 9600 7200rpm Hitach 2.5 drive. Now that is a system rgds Franki Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Interesting wireless driver tool
J.C. Woods wrote: Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I just came across a message posted to the wlan-ng list. There is a company out there called Linuxant and they have released Driveloader, a windoze driver compatibility layer and installer. Here is the info from their page: I can not help but to be skeptical butt... Do keep us up to date on how these drivers work, if indeed they do... drjung I already know people on the Dell forum that are using it... (to get Dell broadcom wireless cards working under linux) So we know it does work. As soon as I get my hands on some 9.2 iso's and an update packages iso, I will be setting it up on my laptop. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Update on the LG problem.
James: I'm wondering how long it will be until some piece of malware is propagated that will seek out systems using these drives and send the fatal flush-cache instruction. One can only hope that the moron at LG who wrote the original BIOS is now engaged in some other line of work more suited to his talents -- cleaning stables comes to mind. -- cmg After some consideration on this issue, I have decided to write this malware myself and release it forthwith.. :-) I'll base it on sobig so only windows users are effected.. take the heat of mandrake :-) Wonder if the anti vir companies will call it sobig.LG ??? rgds Franki (If the FBI or any other security organisation is reading this, I have only to things to say...: 1. STOP READING MY DAMN EMAIL. 2. ITS A JOKE! :-) -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufacturers to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to Block IE from a Website
James Sparenberg wrote: On Thu, 2003-10-16 at 13:49, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 10:24, Jack Coates wrote: you make the fatal assumption that IE supports the standard. It doesn't. Standard code works on IE if it's really really simple, but frequently breaks in ugly ways. Transparent PNGs. PNGs at all (color is off). Advanced CSS features, like flow. Many advanced Javascript form functions. Especially, on the CSS support. We have Java based (JSP) system we developed to create and issue insurance certificates for commercial insurance. The completed certificate is displayed in two frames. A small horizontal frame, containing nothing more that a few navigation buttons and a background, over the main window in which the completed certificate is rendered in the Adobe Acrobat reader plug-in. Recently, we started getting complaints from our users that the system was very slow and that it would take a minute or more for a certificate to be displayed. During troubleshooting we discovered that it could take up to 5 minutes to display the certificate from the time the user clicked the submit button if they used IE. However, if they used Netscape 4.78, or later, the certificate would be displayed in less than a second. In most cases it was displayed, before the user could even move their hand. Since we make this web based application available to our customers, it was imperative that we find the cause and resolve it. After several days of troubleshooting and debugging our head Java programmer found the problem. A contract programmer, who is no longer employed, had coded a 6 line Cascading Style Sheet for the top frame. We removed the CSS and recoded to the page. Now it displays in less than a second using IE as well as Netscape, Mozilla, Opera. et all.. Chuck, I think you've stated better than anyone I've ever heard why it's important to view a site in 1. Every browser you can find. 2. On every box within reach EXCEPT the developers box. 3. Oer a 56k modem with a crap connection. This last one doesn't apply as much if you live outside the US and the 3rd world. James Get real James, I live in Australia, and broadband over here either isn't available in most areas, or is to expensive.. I have ADSL, but it costs me 85 a month and has only 256/64 and to get a static IP address required that they limit my bandwidth to 1 gig a month... Now tell me again why only US should test with Dialup? in Australia Dialup still outnumbers broadband by a massive martgin. Trust me, from the people I know over there, those that do have broadband, have MUCH better broadband then those of us in Australia. rgds Franki -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. -- Please sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DOS bootdisk??
Greg Meyer wrote: On Tuesday 14 October 2003 12:21 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: Is there an image of a DOS boot disk that can be made under Linux so that I can flash my bios? Now of course, I could find a winders confuser to do the job, but hey, can it be done on a Linux box? I was just poking around and found www.bootdisk.com, now which image should I use to flash it? Anything win98SE or lower should do the job. I'd probably use the DOS 6.22 image. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com I used freedos to flash the bios on my Laptop, The laptop has no floppy so I had to make a bootable CD with it.. worked great. For this sort of thing, I highly recommend freedos, and you get to stay right away from M$. failing that, DRDOS is pretty good for this sort of thing as well.. if I can find an image to work with. regards Franki -- Pleasea sign our petition to encourage notebook manufactures to offer video card upgrades just like desktops. http://www.petitiononline.com/inspiron/petition.html For free scripts, online webmaster tools, HTML, XHTML, Perl PHP tutorials and stuff, visit: http://htmlfixit.com, Free web developer resources. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Gramofile and Splitting Tracks
Ronald J. Hall wrote: On Sunday 05 October 2003 12:26 am, Rob Blomquist wrote: OK, I made it through ripping my first tape, and I was really impressed with how it sounds, but I was really unimpressed with how it split the tracks. On Lou Reed 'New York' out of 14 tracks, it only found 4 and I used Audacity to split the others. Has any one fiddled around with splitting tracks, and correcting the default setup to do a better job? I will dive into it myself if no one has, but I would hate to figure it out myself, only to find someone beat me to it. Rob Hmm, don't know about that. I used gramofile to record 3 full cassettes: Warlock Warrior Da'nang and it found and split the songs on all 3. I'm sure you did, but I'll ask anyways - did you follow the correct sequence/steps? I have had the same prob before, some tapes have a bad sig/noise ratio or use shorter gaps between songs (or as in the old Chicago soundtrack I did recently, some songs had no gaps at all). My answer was to split the tracks manually, and I feathered the sound at the end of each track down to 0 to make it sound better.. it worked great. but no software can find the endpoint of all songs if the original has non standard gaps or the sig level is such that the app can't tell where the song stops, you don't have much choice but to do it manually. rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Boycotting MDL
Chill out guys.. To the Americans, it probably does feel like the world is not supporting them.. however if Sadam and/or Co blows the tower up the tower in paris or something.. you'd be wishing they did something earlier. I personally think Sadam is an Asshole that needs to be removed one way or the other. The end point to me, is that weather its for the right reason or not.. the US wants to do it.. Let them.. Sadam bshouldn't/b be in power anyway.. so even if the US was doing it for oil. (and I can't claim to know all their reasons.) They (US) shouldn't be stopped from doing it... Right or wrong reasons aside.. iraq is a powderkeg.. waiting for a spark.. a war now might well be less damaging to life then a war later. (and its a given that eventually there will be a war with iraq... the UN will eventually do it.. might as well get it over with now while there is still a chance to be a minor one. just IMHO... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of et Sent: Friday, 14 March 2003 6:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Boycotting MDL On Thursday 13 March 2003 02:00 pm, Ric Tibbetts wrote: I'm making a statement of personal/political basis. I'm personally boycotting Mandrake Linux. When the French remember who their firends are, and support them, then perhaps this American will return, and support the French again. Until then, you can kiss my American dollars good-bye. Ric -- Linux counter number 167806 first, I would welcome further any OT discussion at [EMAIL PROTECTED] a Mandrake _users_ OT list. Ahhh, your killing me,,, (an American) I am laffing so freaking hard, talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. who cares who's friend is who. use the stuff that works best. call it 'outboard motors if that's what you want and it makes you feel better. I will rewrap Mandrake's prosuite and sell it to you at 2x the price and you can call it liberty software. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX
maybe we should be doing the opposite, and supporting IBM in this.. they are after all the biggest company promoting and helping the linux movement.. sell, IBM products and services and let them know we are on their side in this one... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2003 3:20 AM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 06:40, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual property infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. SCO's actions are NOT good for Linux or open source, and we the community should not stand for it. PCLinuxOnline has decided to respond by boycotting SCO and its products. See our front page [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] for details. We ask that you spread the word on this boycott -- if enough people listen to the call and boycott their products, hopefully SCO will realise that their actions are doing them more harm than good. problem with the boycott they wouldn't notice it...nobody buys the antiques they have anyway. * evil grin * James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
my concern with all of this..
is that M$ is telling people that the lower cost of linux (ie they mean
free) is
not the full picture, and the extra training etc and so on should be taken
into account when working out TCO...
with redhat and Mandrake server products.. the actual product price is
fairly high also..
add the extra training and so on required.. and the M$ point will start
looking like it has validity
so really, the one that looks most impressive on a server to people looking
at the cost of implimenting linux is debian.
rgds
Franki
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Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 3:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Wed Mar 05, 2003 at 02:24:09AM -0500, Bill Mullen wrote:
[...]
Another possible benefit of Jim's proposal is the shift it could bring
in the (wholly inaccurate, but unfortunately all too common) perception
of Mandrake as a limited distro that is exclusively aimed at the
desktop user and the Linux newbie; by making plainly clear that Mandrake
has a strong commitment to the server space and the long-term user, the
company will be saying to the community, in effect, Not only do we damn
well plan to still be around in three years, thank you very much, but we
also plan on being there /for you/ when certain other distros we could
mention will have long since forgotten that you even exist, except as
someone they can extort more revenue from for whole-distro upgrades that
you truly neither need nor want. That is the way of the Dark Side, and
we will have no truck with it.
In effect, the Corporate Server 2.1 announcement says exactly this.
Another thing to say is use the right tool for the right job. Mandrake
Linux (the product) is in fact a desktop/poweruser/workstation type distro.
Corporate Server, on the other hand, is intended for servers.
The right tool and all that.
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RE: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
noone is suggesting that it all be given away for free.
Microsoft spend big dollars before each release working out exactly what $$$
amount would net them the most sales/most income..(not alway the same
thing)...
It just seems that mandrake has not put a huge amount of thought into what
they should be charging for CS2
- Is more copies sold better then fewer at a higher cost???
- What maximum cost is the market going to bear..
- What costing would result in the best combination of number sold vrs
income..
- what inpact does production and distribution costs have to this...
if you only sell 5000 copies of CS2 at its current cost..
or 40,000 at a lower cost.. what is better??
I read an article ages ago, that microsnot spends a great deal of time and
effort pricing their packages to get the most dollars at the end and the
most people using it...
That was my point is all...
rgds
Franki
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Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 4:59 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Thu Mar 06, 2003 at 04:39:13AM +0800, Franki wrote:
my concern with all of this..
is that M$ is telling people that the lower cost of linux (ie they mean
free) is
not the full picture, and the extra training etc and so on should be taken
into account when working out TCO...
with redhat and Mandrake server products.. the actual product price is
fairly high also..
add the extra training and so on required.. and the M$ point will start
looking like it has validity
Well, anyone who told you that linux has a $0 TCO was obviously lying and
likely should be taken out to pasture. I don't think anyone from
MandrakeSoft ever indicated that the TCO was nill. Cheaper, sure.
You seem to forget the software side of things. If, say, Corporate Server
2.1 is coming close to the TCO of a Win2k server, think about what you get
with each OS. You want a mail server? How much is Exchange? Web server?
How much is IIS? SQL server? How much is MS SQL?
Add those figures up and then re-look at your TCO. And before you tell me
you can use MySQL and Apache under Windows, remember part of your argument
was training. How many Certified MS Monkeys have training with MySQL or
Apache? They'll need some training as well, so add that to your TCO if
you're going to use OSS software on windows.
so really, the one that looks most impressive on a server to people
looking
at the cost of implimenting linux is debian.
I won't argue with that. But look at debian's development pace and lack of
commercial support. A lot of companies will continue to use RH, SuSE, and
Mandrake due to support offerings. IIRC, Debian doesn't provide this. For
home users proficient in Linux, this may not be a big deal. For others, it
is.
I mean, the other argument is we can start giving everything away for free
and be dead and buried in a year. Which would you rather see?
People who think that they deserve everything for nothing should remove
their rose-colored glasses and wake up. Why should MandrakeSoft provide
everything to everybody? We can't, and we shouldn't. I appreciate the many
ideas people have, but sometimes you have to sit down and think about things
realistically. We're spread pretty thin right now as it is... if we go any
thinner, quality starts to suffer. How many people are going to use
Mandrake Linux, the has-been distro? No one will use a crappy distro, so
why try to do everything and do it half-assed? I'd rather see us say
sorry, but no and concentrate on areas where we excel so we can continue
to provide a quality product and quality services. If people can't
understand that, I guess there's no help for them. Maybe they should be
using Debian then.
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RE: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
Thanks.. I'll do that (place my wish)
I have never used any linux support other then updates and mailing lists...
and I get bye... rtfm and stfw has worked pretty well for the most part..
so yes.. I'll email that wish through...
Thanks for the tip..
rgds
Franki
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Vincent Danen
Sent: Thursday, 6 March 2003 7:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake's Golden Opportunity
On Thu Mar 06, 2003 at 06:11:43AM +0800, Franki wrote:
noone is suggesting that it all be given away for free.
Microsoft spend big dollars before each release working out exactly what
$$$
amount would net them the most sales/most income..(not alway the same
thing)...
It just seems that mandrake has not put a huge amount of thought into what
they should be charging for CS2
- Is more copies sold better then fewer at a higher cost???
- What maximum cost is the market going to bear..
- What costing would result in the best combination of number sold vrs
income..
- what inpact does production and distribution costs have to this...
if you only sell 5000 copies of CS2 at its current cost..
or 40,000 at a lower cost.. what is better??
I read an article ages ago, that microsnot spends a great deal of time and
effort pricing their packages to get the most dollars at the end and the
most people using it...
That was my point is all...
Actually, this couldn't have been your point as you were talking about
Mandrake Linux, not Corporate Server. I brought up CS as an alternative to
someone using Mandrake Linux as a server OS.
I do see your point and have argued it myself... you're preaching to the
choir. =) If you want to see something done here, I suggest emailing Deno
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) as he loves advocating this type of stuff.
I really have nothing to do with pricing and I've already made my opinion
known. Discussing it on this list probably isn't good.
In fact, I'd encourage everyone who would like to see a lower cost Corporate
Server (ie. no support whatsoever from MandrakeSoft other than updates for a
base cost of $250USD or so) to email [EMAIL PROTECTED] (or
[EMAIL PROTECTED], I don't remember which) and make your voice heard.
The more people MandrakeSoft sees would be willing to purchase a
support-less Corporate Server for something reasonable for a server OS (and
no, $100 isn't reasonable in my mind, but $250 or $300 would be). If enough
people indicate this, you never know what might happen.
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RE: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients
I've used both.. but qmail only briefly.. if you know postfix, stick with it... also, if you want to use something like amavis with your mta.. then you can't go past postfix's content_filter. rgs Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Scott St. John Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2003 11:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients At 02:49 PM 3/4/2003 +, you wrote: http://www.mrw.demon.co.uk has a detailed how-to for installing qmail and qmail-pop3d on mandrake (Vince Danen maintains qmail packages for mandrake) qmail + qmail-pop3d works just fine with windows mail clients. There is also a qmail mandrakesecure mailing list if you are so inclined. Mark- As one who is not familiar with qmail how do you rate it against Postfix? I am seeing more and more sites using qmail, but sadly I don't know much about it. -Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] is there a big difference??
If you wait a month or less.. you can get 9.1 much better.. for what you want.. the download version would be fine... and since you are not getting a powerpack.. you should become a mandrakeclub member... :-) Its what I am doing... regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gavin Sent: Monday, 3 March 2003 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] is there a big difference?? Dear experts, my quest is simple, I'm running 8.2 prosuite on my server now but I'm thinking of using 9.0 standard (download) and just selecting some of the server packages.. my server is simple.. its a firewall/file server serving 3 windows boxes and 1linux box plus my notebook (linux of course!). So again is there a REALLY big diff from 8.2 server package and 9.0 download standard? Thanks for your replys in advance. Grasshopper -- Gavin Rollins Fukushimaken, Fukushima City Nankodai 2-34-1 Japan Registered Linux user #119685 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates
you should but the CD iso's online for us Mr Civilme that would be a really really handy resource.. regards Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of civileme Sent: Friday, 28 February 2003 1:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Slipstreaming 9.0 Updates On Wednesday 26 February 2003 10:51 pm, Tom wrote: On Thursday 20 February 2003 12:41 am, Greg Meyer wrote: Does anybody know how I would create a slipstreamed set of installation disks for 9.0 that included all the security updates. Is it as easy as copying the new packages to the cd images and removing the older version? or is there some kind of remastering process that must happen? Greg,please excuse my ignorance, but what do you mean by slipstreamed ? I have not heard of that term. I dunno what slipstream means either, but, I will hazard a guess about updating the CDs-- make directories, replace packages ./gendepslist to make a new hdlist.cz, then install once and make3 a floppy of the package selections, since the categorical selections will no longer relate to the packages. I personally make an install completion CD to run the updates off a fourth CD after the regular install is done (plus Java, RealPlayer, Yahoo Instant Messenger, etc) with a very short Python routine that calls rpm for each of the packages and after checking that user desktops have been activated puts icons on the desktop for a few items that don't go on menu. I also add some menu entries for the simplified menu cause I want OpenOffice to pop up there instead of KOffice or the Gnome stuff. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Stand-alone Firewall
sure... 1. Download FreeSCO. 2. plug in modem. 3. boot from FreeSCO disk. 4. use menu to configure it. 5. Enjoy. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim C Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Stand-alone Firewall Can anyone point me towards a HOWTO that will allow me to set up a box without a hard drive as a stand-alone firewall for my home network? I have an old K6-III box I want to use for this. I figure I'll create an OS and firewall on a cdrom and leave it at that. Jim C, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Stand-alone Firewall
yeah, as far as i remember, its just writes a txt config file... We had a setup once where we had two freesco boxes , each with a modem, one called the other, they establised a link and we used it for backup connection to remote office... worked well. we configued one of them, then copied the config files over to the other... Its laid out much like a normal linux distro, just smaller :-) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim C Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 3:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Stand-alone Firewall Can the config for FreeSCO be saved? Franki wrote: sure... 1. Download FreeSCO. 2. plug in modem. 3. boot from FreeSCO disk. 4. use menu to configure it. 5. Enjoy. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim C Sent: Tuesday, 18 February 2003 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Stand-alone Firewall Can anyone point me towards a HOWTO that will allow me to set up a box without a hard drive as a stand-alone firewall for my home network? I have an old K6-III box I want to use for this. I figure I'll create an OS and firewall on a cdrom and leave it at that. Jim C, Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challenger.
Title: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challenger. Yeah, I just read about 30 pages on that site.. thanks mike.. rgds Franki -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JaneSent: Friday, 14 February 2003 1:46 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challenger. Also on this page are "Retired" OVs -- the two names: Challenger Columbia. Very sad . . . . -Original Message- From: Michael Viron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger. Enterprise (OV-101) is currently owned by the Smithsonian -- you can see more information on it and the other orbiters at http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/resources/orbiters/orbiters.html . Michael At 02:14 AM 2/11/2003 +0800, you wrote: good thing it never made it into space... If it followed the trekkie version, it'd end up being destroyed, partially or fully at each outting (movie). So what happened to the Enterprise?? is it at the NASA museum?? rgds Frank
[expert] Loadmodule command??
Hi guys I am trying to seup unrealircd on my mandrake9.0 box.. It all configures correctly, then I configured it and thats good it.. when I try to start it, it tells me I havn't loaded any modules.. According to the docs, I am supposed to do the following: loadmodule src/modules/commands.so; loadmodule src/modules/scan.so; loadmodule src/modules/scan_socks.so; I have no loadmodule command so I can't get past this error... Anyone know where I get that from?? locate loadmodule gets me nothing... tips?? rgds franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.
good thing it never made it into space... If it followed the trekkie version, it'd end up being destroyed, partially or fully at each outting (movie). So what happened to the Enterprise?? is it at the NASA museum?? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 1:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger. Yep, it was enterprise. Matthew O. Persico wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 22:07:40 -0600, David Rankin wrote: Trivia: OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1) Wasn't this named Enterprise? I remember a big deal about Trekkers trying to get a shuttle named after the ship in Star Trek. OV-99 Challenger OV-102 Columbia OV-103 Discovery OV-104 Atlantis OV-105-Endeavor -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger. Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the Columbia we should be remembering.. Challanger happened 17 years ago. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM To: Expert List Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence. In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger. Please a moment of silence. And an awareness of the tragic effect a small problem can bring. I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list. Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost. James Sparenberg - --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Matthew O. Persico Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. RANKIN * BERTIN, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 (936) 715-9339 fax Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
That is an awesom application... I just checed it out... Only two things I can think of that it needs for use over here.. 1. MySQL support.. 2. Australian GST support.. I am going to have a read thought the code and see if I can't provide those requirements.. In theory, if its using DBI to access DB, then it should be possible, unless they are using stuff specific to Pg. The GST is another whole ballgame, My Girlfriend is a Bookkeeper, so if she can make me understand what is required for Aust GST.. then I will see if I can do it.. I am really excited, sql-ledger is an application I have been thinking about writing for ages.. didn't know someone already had. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jonathan I. Nori Sent: Monday, 10 February 2003 12:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!! Now *this* is the kind of linux application development that gets me giddy. *grin* Once you can make a business case to replace the back-end systems of a business with linux, *then* you have a real shot at converting the desktops (you listening Mark? *hehehe*). I might have to have Mr. Weaver see if he can't get an installation of this running on one of the boxes at work so we can do a real comparison study with Best/Sage MAS-200 SQL. It'd be interesting to see how this stacks up against a MSSQL mid-range accounting system. Hmm...another spring project... Jon 8^) Mark wrote: Looks like some people need to discover SQL-Ledger for their accounting system..http://www.sql-ledger.com been using it for some time and it is excellent, and even if I was forced to use M$ Win, I would still use SQL-Ledger as my accounting system. Cheers Mark On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 04:07, Jack Coates wrote: On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 21:10, Mark Weaver wrote: ... If I wouldn'tn have to interact with the accounting system I wouldn't have to boot back into windows at all. I bought VMWare 2 for 89 bucks when it first came out and have been using it ever since to keep a Windows system around for Visio. If you don't have the cash for VMware or Win4Lin, try Bochs. Or if you like to hit yourself in the head with a cinderblock for fun, you could try to get the accounting app to run in Wine :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
I could find no download for CS2.1, so I assume its purchase only???
I don't mind them paying for it, but I'd like to try it out first...
See basically, I don't need wizards and GUI stuff for the most part..
I have my standard config files.. which once I have installed a system, I
copy them accross
and my server is almost done..
To have to pay for support I'd very likely never use is abit rough..
(I bought a powerpack and never used the support portion of that either.)
I just want a basic system with the server apps, and updates for what is
installed..
chroot all around would be good, but apart from that, there isn't much else
I need.
Just to support mandrake, I would make the boss buy at least one copy, but
I'd have to try it
before we outlayed the cash.. if it isn't want I want, then no deal...
anyone in my position would
feel the same way.
I am worried that I'd have compilation issues with stuff I load, wondering
what is different between it and other packages.
wondering how compatable it is with other mandrake rpms... that sort of
stuff..
Also how it handles hardware raid, scsi drives stuff like that..
what is the word on this? i have not even seen a list of the kernel and
package version..
Do you have any info to pass on??
Is CS2.1 the first mandrake to NOT be free software??? I ask because there
is no download version...
rgds
Franki
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Sent: Saturday, 8 February 2003 1:45 AM
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On Fri Feb 07, 2003 at 02:14:34PM +0800, Franki wrote:
I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and
that as such had no obligations to be a server..
Having said that, Corporate Server 2.1 is now available, and it is a
server OS. The support timeframe will likely be 3-4 years, possibly
more. I'm not 100% sure on this yet (not my call).
I understand doing updates yourself is a bore and PITA (oh boy do I
know!), and reinstalling a server every 18mos is also a nuisance.
Corporate Server will alleviate this. It will have 12-18mos between
versions, so will be a much slower pace than the main distrib (Mandrake
Linux), and should certainly meet your needs.
There is a PR on the mandrakesoft.com website about it; I don't have
the URL handy at the moment.
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RE: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
Yep, I totally agree.. Vincent made a statement that mdk was a desktop OS.. and that as such had no obligations to be a server.. I wasn't totally aware of that, I have seen blurb on the website about how mandrake makes good servers.. and that many of the examples that mandrake give in their newsletters are about mandrake as servers... As sad as it is to me,, I will probably swap to redhat or debian for servers in future, because a reload every 18 months is alittle to much for me.. we have 20 servers in our system.. and thats alot of work, not to mention that I have setup many small business's with mandrake 8.1/8.1 and 9.0 boxes... all of which don't have a long lifespan ahead.. I can only hope that when mandrake gets back in the black they will rethink this to some degree.. One of the reasons I have been parading to our dept heads that linux is better then winsucks is the longevity of the product... The only way to really get that now it seems.. is to use stable debian.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates Well, I think the end of life stuff sucks. Yes, it's inevitable, but it still sucks. I for one haven't upgraded my 7.2 server (other than applying patches) since it was installed. Why? Answer: It works, It works, It works! It is inefficient to think about spending 3-5 days of a backup, HD format, re-install, reconfigure, reload, test, (fix what used to work, but now for some reason unexplained doesn't), QA and harden a new server when the one you have provides 100% of what you need (and believe me 7.2 is widely installed and has few shortcommings) So no, I don't repave each time a got to have a number larger than RH release comes out. If their is a needed capability that is offered in the new release, then I would. However, ssh, apache, php, mysql, pptpd, ipsec, samba (no XP clients), BIND 8, and the rest still work just fine under 7.2. -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 - Original Message - From: Mark Chou [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 5:44 PM Subject: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates Now that Mandrake has announced their product end-of-life policy (http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/productlifetime.php3), I really need a sustainable upgrade strategy. I've always struggled with rpm updates, basically downloadling source rpms and building them myself. Mandrake package dependencies also happen to be particularly 'unkempt,' often includes things that really aren't necessary. My most important MDK box, a gateway/firewall, is still basically MDK8.0 (console only). What do most of you do to keep your machines up to date with necessary features and security updates? Do you pretty much re-pave each time for a newer MDK distro, or do you build your own from sources? Any time-saving hints, like rsync, etc, which would save download time? What are the best practices? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.
I don't mean to be unsensitive to the tragedy.. but taking that into account.. I'd be starting to worry alittle if I was a Discovery astronaut... they seem to be failing in order. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Rankin Sent: Friday, 7 February 2003 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger. Trivia: OV-98 (Drop test vehicle - never flown aside from glide tests pre STS-1) OV-99 Challenger OV-102 Columbia OV-103 Discovery OV-104 Atlantis OV-105-Endeavor -- David C. Rankin, J.D., P.E. Rankin * Bertin, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 (936) 715-9333 - Original Message - From: Franki [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 9:23 PM Subject: RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger. Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the Columbia we should be remembering.. Challanger happened 17 years ago. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM To: Expert List Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence. In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger. Please a moment of silence. And an awareness of the tragic effect a small problem can bring. I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list. Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost. James Sparenberg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates
Microsoft have a 5 year time in which they support their product.. after that, all bets are off.. win95 has no new updates available, there are some that were created when it was supported, but there are no new ones.. win98 has just about finished its support cycle, and when they kill it, they will kill 98SE as well (even though technically, it was introduced almost a year after the first win98.) win2000 gets killed in 2005 etc etc.. People who setup servers don't like to change around alot.. I still have quite a few 7.2 boxes out there.. and now I have to upgrade just because I will have to manually update from tarballs for security fixes. Its a pain, but if it helps mandrake, then so be it.. I will upgrade the 7.2's to 9.1 or manually upgrade packages on the 7.2 boxes. Oh well, such is life.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of et Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 8:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake RPM updates On Wednesday 05 February 2003 05:05 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Wednesday 05 Feb 2003 9:03 am, James Sparenberg wrote: Great. after september 30 this year I won't have a single supportable box U Gentlemen. Are you going to give me new laptops with my 9.1 distro? It wouldn't be a problem if I could manage to get software that would last as long as my hardware... well... let's see 8 years on Win95 ... 6 on 98 .. h me thinks the product life cycle is t short. if you are under the impression that M$ has an 8 year product suport for win95, you might try asking M$ what support they offer for win95, and consider that sept 2004 win95 will be 8 years old, as it was 1 year old in 1996 Could someone clarify, please? Does this mean that there will be no security fixes after those dates? If those continue we would be no worse off than with any windows distro. After all, if it works for us now it will continue to do so. But without security updates it's a whole new ball game. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] rpm error.
Hi guys, I am getting this error when I try to use mandrakeupdate... rpmd: region error detected; run recovery. What is recovery??? trying to rebuild the db gives the same error.. Not sure what to do about it.. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] rpm error. update!
I did: rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__* rpm --rebuilddb To see if that would fix it... now I am getting this error when I try the rpm --rebuilddb error: db4 error(5) from dbcursor-c_get: Input/output error Any one know what the problem is and how to fix it.. This is a live mysql server, and I can't run mandrake update... If I can't get this working, I'm gonna have to update it manually. any help would be most appreciated... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: Tuesday, 4 February 2003 8:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] rpm error. Hi guys, I am getting this error when I try to use mandrakeupdate... rpmd: region error detected; run recovery. What is recovery??? trying to rebuild the db gives the same error.. Not sure what to do about it.. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
there was one with apache getting loaded with apache 2 updates.. or at least
trying...
don't know of any other...
rgds
Frank
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Sent: Monday, 3 February 2003 3:13 PM
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On Sun Feb 02, 2003 at 11:01:34AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
Specifically what updates clobbered you? I've not had this problem on
any of my 9.0 boxes but then I might not have the same software
installed you do.
My goodness, how would anyone possibly know?
There are presently 180 9.0-update RPMs.I would have installed about
one third, so you must see that I would not be prepared to conduct
the enormous amount of research to find out which, and then possibly
to discover it is not one but some combination.
That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas?
Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and
with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can
we fix it? You presume too much.
Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates
applied, are rock solid.
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RE: [expert] packet forwarding solved wget question
Also, the LWP and Tokeparser perl modules could help you download and stip the HTML... its what they were designed for. go to search.cpan.org and look for them. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Benjamin Pflugmann Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2003 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] packet forwarding solved wget question Hi. On Fri 2003-01-31 at 21:08:22 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Also, I have another issue: I'm using wget to retreive some river flow stats on a website and mailing parts off using grep and sendmail and cron. It was easier than I thought, but it isn't pretty the way I'm doing it. Right now I'm not stripping out the HTML, and it looks kind of bad and the text message needs to be as short as possible. Is there an easy way to strip out HTML codes like nbsp; and any tags? Would converting from HTML to text also do the job? If so, consider lynx -dump or any other tool (w3m, links, ...) which provides similar functionality. HTH, Benjamin. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] A moment of Silence. Columbia, NOT Challanger.
Ok, I will go along with that, except to say that its the Columbia we should be remembering.. Challanger happened 17 years ago. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Sunday, 2 February 2003 6:55 AM To: Expert List Subject: [expert] A moment of Silence. In honor of the men and women of the space shuttle challenger. Please a moment of silence. And an awareness of the tragic effect a small problem can bring. I respectfully submit that to properly honor these men and women from many Nations, no replies or additional comments be made on this list. Please, hold your replies and your prayers in your hearts so that your God may see them and be with the families of those we have lost. James Sparenberg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] packet forwarding unstable
I am using mdk9 for port forwarding and it has been completely flawless.. but i used gShield as the firewall and just tell it what ports to forward to where.. its very easy... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Anderson Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 10:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] packet forwarding unstable Hi, I've had similar problems, and running sdhorewall, so I don't think it's the firewall software. Only some packets seemed to be dropped, some sites just would not load. This was a temporary setup before I installed MNF on a separate box, so I didn't pursue a solution. Dan On Wednesday 29 January 2003 11:50 pm, Bryce Conner wrote: I'm using a crossover cable to test Mandrake 9.0 as a packet forwarding host, connected to a cable modem. Eventually I plan to run more computers through it, but I can't seem to solve a problem I'm having with forwarding. It seems that Mandrake starts to drop packets from eth0 to eth1, and everything seems to be set up correctly. Everything works fine at boot. I know it's a problem with my setup but I'm not sure where to start. All I know is if I do 'echo 1 /proc/sys/ipv4/ip_forward' (or whatever it is) it restarts the forwarding. At least once every 24 hours it starts dropping packets and won't restart until I manually restart it. I am using dhcpd to serve the ip address to the Windows XP Client. Other than using chron to automatically issue the echo command every hour or so (that wouldn't hurt anything would it?), is there something I can do to track this down and solve it? I've looked in /var/log/kernel and there are no related errors at about the time my packet forwarding went down the last time. Snort was running at the time, but that shouldn't cause any problems, and I think the problem has occurred without it running. I ran Bastille, which set up the bastille firewall (is it called prelude?). I noticed that it isn't supported yet (or at least it wasn't) in Mandrake 9.0 but I found a website that has an easy fix so it will at least run the main program correctly. Do you think Bastille would cause this kind of instability? Do you think getting the newest kernel from the cooker would fix it and not break too many things? How many dependency issues will I have with a newer kernel? -- 9:11am up 6 days, 11:28, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] 9.0 in production
DNS, postfix/amavis-new/spamassasin, apache/mod_perl, samba/print file server all running 24/7 in production enviroment. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of drake Sent: Friday, 31 January 2003 7:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] 9.0 in production DNS, qmail, apache in production on 9.0... On Thursday 23 January 2003 07:31 pm, Scott Parks wrote: I have purchased every copy of Mandrake since 6.5 at Best Buy, but since I refuse to shop there anymore and since I feel it is now more important than ever to show support for Mdk, I purchased the Pro Suite online today. With that out of the way, is anyone using 9.0 in a production environment? As web server or other task? I have an 8.2 server that I might consider replacing if 9.0 is ready. Thanks, -Scott Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
I'd like to argue with that bit about the nazi's... they did not have much support from the people.. my real name is Franz.. I call myself frank to make it easier for people to remember.. a good many of my relatives were killed by the SS nazi's for being part of the resistance... Once hitler was in charge.. there was nothing even remotely like democracy... anyone that disagreed with him was locked up or killed.. many his own generals were terrified of him.. and most of the general german army had no real idea what was going on or why they were fighting.. That doesn't sound much like what is going on in the US at the moment.. everyone keeps saying War is not the way I'd like someone to give us an alternative for getting rid of saddam.. does anyone have one? Sanctions didn't work against him... just starved his people and made the west look like assholes (because saddam tells the people that the west are the reason they are starving). He has been doing the same stuff since 91 and none of the UN stuff has worked worth a damn.. So what is this alternative so many speak of?? bribe him to leave?? assasinate him?? what?? lets hear the alternatives. One last thing, If there is nothing to what the US has been saying... then the UN would not be putting the pressure on iraq that they are now... so there must be something to it... Also, if the US do know stuff we don't.. its possible they can't say because they have probably been trying to put spy's over there since 91.. if it comes to a choise between revealing all, getting their spy's killed and losing their data... what would you do??? To put it simply, we MUSTN'T judge Bush, because we have no idea what he knows.. and what he doesn't. its possible that if you knew what he did, you would be campaining for war also. Thats not to say that I agree with him, I am simply not in a position to judge.. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 3:12 PM To: ExpertMandrake-List Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 00:44 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 22:49, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we know it. I listened to the US-Amercan president. I'm not religious, I wish I were. This madman and the options he has scare me to death. wobo I don't take kindly to my president being called a madman. Especially when he is fighting a *real* madman that has slaughtered over 230,000 innocent kurds with mustard gas; plus done God knows what else to his own people; President Bush was descriptive of some of those things. You've got the wrong f*cking madman, pal. If he's a madman then everybody else in the room was also, cause he got well over 9 standing ovations that I could count. He also has had the highest approval rating of any president in US history. He also has my undivided attention and support. So maybe the majority of Americans are madmen then? You just described Hitler and the German people in 1939. You just described Goebbels in the Berlin Sportpalast with 100,000 excited Germans shouting War! If war is forced upon us we will fight. Mr. Bush used those words. Hitler used those words when he told the German people that Polland has attacked! Hear the speeches of 1939 and of 2003 and compare the phrases. And don't try to tell me anything about the German history. I don't want to take Hussein's side. Surely he is a madman. But Mr. Bush is trying to convince the world to go to a war with unknown consequences to the whole world and he does so without any proper reason so far. The mad side of it is that Mr. Bush plays with something that should not be played with. There are still other means to solve the problem. War is the last means. For Mr. Bush it is the first. The mad side of it are the reasons. Do you really believe he would care for Iraq if it were not the state with the second richest oil fields in the world? And unfortunately not under control of the western oil companies? The mad side of it are the so-called proofs he keeps talking about. If there were hard evidence that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction we would be much further down the way than we are now. UN would have seen the docs last year and S. Hussein would be history by now. It pisses me off when other countries that have no ethics or balls to do the right thing in defense of innocents criticize my country and my president. Germany's histories regarding innocent life are not exactly something to brag about; however I'm not posting rants regarding Hitler and the Holocaust and 6 million Jews that were murdered. Oh yeah, and the fact that the US was one of the primary forces that put a stop to it. Totally different situation
RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
You didn't address the issue of what to do about saddam without fighting... (assuming he is guilty.) what are the alternatives.??? As for the question of spy's... who says they should pull them all out now to save them??? The issue isn't resolved yet, if they pulled them out, they'd have to start over again later on down the track.. If only 5 people know the location of a bunch of chemical warheads, and all of a sudden the UN weapons inspectors make a beeline to that place... whats gonna happen to the only 5 people that know??? The us would not pull out deep cover agents just to appease the public... particularly if they might give forwarning of any milirary or terrorist action... Think about it.. I am not saying flat out that that is the case.. but if you think the US doesn't have deep cover agents over there, you need to think real hard about it... I am not saying i believe or disbelieve, I am saying that we don't know enough as civilians to make the distinction... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:15 +0800, Franki wrote: Once hitler was in charge.. there was nothing even remotely like democracy... anyone that disagreed with him was locked up or killed.. many his own generals were terrified of him.. and most of the general german army had no real idea what was going on or why they were fighting.. That doesn't sound much like what is going on in the US at the moment.. You are right with this. I did not compare the situation in the USA of today with the situation in Germany in the 30ies. I just compared Mr. Bush's speech with the speeches of Hitler and Goering in 1939. everyone keeps saying War is not the way Correct. War is commencing policy by different means. This quote (can't remember who said that) doesn't apply any more in modern times. Back when this quote was made war took place in the field. There were soldiers whose profession it was to go to war. They were called warriors. Was the girl killed in 9/11 or the man in the streets of Oklahoma or the tourist in Djerba or on Bali, were they warriors? NO. War has changed to something NOBODY can controll any more. All those brave soldiers with their fine toys and their Yes, Sir - No, Sir! mentality, they are just a part of war. If Saddam has to fight a military action of the USA we all will be not warriors but potential victims of that war. No matter how military actions proceed in Iraq, there will always be enough terrorists ready to revenge whatever they claim to be to revenge. I'd like someone to give us an alternative for getting rid of saddam.. does anyone have one? Sanctions didn't work against him... just starved his people and made the west look like assholes (because saddam tells the people that the west are the reason they are starving). He has been doing the same stuff since 91 and none of the UN stuff has worked worth a damn.. So what is this alternative so many speak of?? bribe him to leave?? assasinate him?? what?? lets hear the alternatives. One last thing, If there is nothing to what the US has been saying... then the UN would not be putting the pressure on iraq that they are now... so there must be something to it... The UN - looks like USA regards themselves not a member any more. All I hear is We want this and UN wants that!. The community of world's people - nothing else is the UN! - has a board of directors if you may say so, it has no CEO! Maybe Mr. Bush does not know this... The UN does what the people want from them - they put pressure on Saddam to find out what's going on to then decide for action. The UN is not shy to start military actions - read the resolutions of former conflicts. Also, if the US do know stuff we don't.. its possible they can't say because they have probably been trying to put spy's over there since 91.. if it comes to a choise between revealing all, getting their spy's killed and losing their data... what would you do??? There is a point where all this has come into the open. There was a long time now that Mr. Bush states that the US have evidence. Time enough to clear out and cut all strings which could endanger someone who is involved in gathering this evidence. Furthermore there is noone demanding to see the evidence in public. No need to show them on CNN. There is always the option to show the evidence just to the members of the Security Council and there's no reason to distrust those people more than the average CIA guy. If those guys of the SC tell the world: OK, we have seen proof that Saddam has those weapons. We'll sign a resolution to fight him. Then my little world is in order again. I'd still be scared shitless, though. I'm also living in a city and work in an institution and building which is on the top list of potential
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yeah, I'd go along with most of that.. accept for a couple of points.. 1. I stand by my comment about not Judging him.. for one thing.. if you don't know the facts, how can your judgement possibly be appropriate?? (also I was referring to the war issue, not the economy, that you can judge for yourself because it speaks for itself..) He gets judged by those that know.. and unfortunately that isn't us. history will judge him as well, and that's good because history has a much better chance of knowing the relevant facts. 1.1 Your analogy is like those windows users that adversely judge Linux without having ever seen or tried it.. how can they judge something they have never known.. ??? 2. If your family was in a building or a plane or whatever that either an Iraq agent, or an Iraq sponsored terrorist took down,, you would probably find yourself at the forefront of the war crying.. We don't know all the facts.. Those who do not heed the past are destined to repeat it.. so he is at least making an effort to stop something before it happens now.. history is full of cases where no action was taken till it was too late.. who knows, he might actually stop the next 9/11, but he will get no praise for it.. but if he went and gained retribution AFTER the act had taken place, he'd be called an American hero or words to that effect.. just as he did with 9/11 and Afghanistan... He would probably rather be a hero then an unremembered nobody.. but still he is making an effort to stop something happening BEFORE it kills a heap of people.. 3. Oil, I don't recall hearing that the Oil fields that the US liberated in Desert storm are now owned by the US did I miss some important news flyer here??? who is running Kuwait now??? I wasn't aware it was the yanks.. The only things I think that bush has done so far: 1. Not enough explanation of his reasons for it happening now instead of 5-10 years ago to the world at large. 2. Not taking Nth Korea every bit as seriously as Iraq or explaining why they haven't. 3. Not waiting till the UN decreed it.. he should have had agents in there looking and watching for the weapons long before now if there were mass destruction weapons over there.. (after all, the US spends billions on intelligence agencies, satellites etc.. one would think they would have some idea where the weapons were moved, or at least some idea of the areas. if a satellite can read your number plate, it should have a good chance of catching a convoy of flatbed trucks or other sus looking activities, that's an extreme generalisation, but you see what I mean.) I could go on.. but you get my point, I am simply saying that unless you know what they know, you are in no position to declare them right or wrong.. end of story.. They are probably wrong,, who knows, but if they are right, should we wait till thousands or millions die before we do anything Lack of knowledge (ours in this case) is the biggest enemy.. I keep an open mind about this stuff till I know the facts.. I also think I have somewhat of a different perspective here.. I am of German/polish heritage, and I am not in the US.. So I am not just jumping on the war bandwagon.. but history is far to full of retaliation and not enough prevention... By the same token, this will all be history in 20 years, regardless of the outcome.. not much we say here has any bearing on it anyway... So, does anyone have something nice to say about 9.1 rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of et Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 11:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Frankl says To put it simply, we MUSTN'T judge Bush, because we have no idea what he knows.. I say very wrong statement,,, absolute power corrupts absolutely. We MUST Judge the Government continueally, if we are ever to hope to have a government by the people, for the people and of the people. I think it was also Frankl that said I just compared Mr. Bush's speech with the speeches of Hitler and Goering in 1939. I would love anyone that has studied Goering-Hitler to apply the same standards and study Rush Limbaugh-Bush. That is a thesis I would read and give much consideration to. LX says cause he got well over 9 standing ovations that I could count. I could be wrong here, but in the past I had seen (some where damn if I remember where now) that an average for standing ovations at a State of the Union Address was 21. Damian Gatabria said Hard to see.. the future is. Always in motion it is impossible to see. Yoda, read from you again, good it is. James Sparenberg says; How about if I, an American, Vetran, and Native born Citizen. Call him the scariest thing I've ever seen. How about I, an American, Vietnam Veteran, and Native born Citizen who can trace his roots back to the pilgrims and Jamestown on one side, and the Revolutionary war on the other side, says a damn loud; ME TOO.
RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
first of all... repeat after me. FRANKI IS NOT AN AMERICAN :-) I'm an Aussie... Second.. the US must be spending what ?? 5-10 millian a day at the very least, probably a good deal more, putting all that military might around iraq... and its been going on for a very long time... That sort of money would take along time to get recompensed by iraq oil, particularly since the US would still have to pay for it anyway, and would have no direct control over it... as with Kuwait Yes... presidents have looked the other way many times in the past.. maybe its time to stop that??? Tibet is a good example to me is Tibet.. the chinese have all but totally crushed the wonderous culture of that country.. but in the 50's no one lifted a damn finger to stop them.. and thats not just the US.. thats everybody.. History is full of that as well.. maybe its time to stick up for the underdogs and try and make the whole world a democracy in some form or another I actually agree with the observation made earlier that Germany has a much more business like government then most other countries.. and I agree that from an economical perspective,, thats a really good thing.. from a military perspective, its a bad thing, because the people that don't know all the facts, can overrule the ones that do.. but overall I wish australia was run the same way... in Australia, our politicial parties spend all their time attacking each others policies instead of promoting the merits of their own policies .. If I had two wishes for the perfect democracy.. I would ask that a law be put in place where political parties MUST NOT attack their opposition at ever step and must instead promote the benefits of their own party and policies instead of relying on attaching everyone elses.. The other wish would be that issues of a military nature should be discussed by a commitee of the smartest people in the country, not the most popular.. intellegence and knowledge should be the prerequsite to being on that commitee... The very smartest minds in the country... regardless of their industry or occupation. And that commitee should have the ability to veto the head of state in issues of a military nature, and must have the ability to propose and act on actions decided upon by the commitee.. That way, the best minds are the ones making the important decisions, not politicians.. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alfredo C. López Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 12:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? Hi! I'm a guy living in Argentina, far away from the bullets. El Mié 29 Ene 2003 10:23, Franki escribió: You didn't address the issue of what to do about saddam without fighting... (assuming he is guilty.) what are the alternatives.??? There are always alternatives. May be leave the iraquies alone Like a lot of US presidents did with Latin American in the past. It's known that in the past there were here a lot of Military presidents that didn't respect human rights and the us presidents never took action against them. More to say in Chile with President Alende... US was involve in the killing of Alende trough this guy called Kissinger. And it was a president voted by the people. And US supported the military president that come after that. Almost the same happend here in Argentina and Brasil. So... Please excuse me if I dont believe in your president. I don't trust anymore in a president that have to hide evidence in the behave of the people. Here in Argentina we suffer the doctrine of national security (of course... with the support of the US). So... to me the only explanation to the action taken by Bush administration is about oil and money. Nothing else. there no comunist to fight this time. I am not saying i believe or disbelieve, I am saying that we don't know enough as civilians to make the distinction... That is very sad to hear. And coming from an american, is very disappointing. I think that the civilians need to know so they can control what rule you. My two cents. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 8:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 20:15 +0800, Franki wrote: Once hitler was in charge.. there was nothing even remotely like democracy... anyone that disagreed with him was locked up or killed.. many his own generals were terrified of him.. and most of the general german army had no real idea what was going on or why they were fighting.. That doesn't sound much like what is going on in the US at the moment.. You are right with this. I did not compare the situation in the USA of today with the situation in Germany in the 30ies. I just compared Mr. Bush's speech
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maybe they are learning.. albiet slowly.. They did not put a dictator in charge of afganistan... they tried to start a democracy if memory serves... it doesn't seem to be working to well so far, but thats what they did.. I can only assume they would do the same in Iraq.. if not because they learned from history. then because there is no military power in iraq now that the US could aid in taking power.. Saddam saw to that... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mick Szucs Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 12:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:29, Franki wrote: Those who do not heed the past are destined to repeat it.. so he is at least making an effort to stop something before it happens now.. history is full of cases where no action was taken till it was too late.. who knows, he might actually stop the next 9/11, but he will get no praise for it.. but if he went and gained retribution AFTER the act had taken place, he'd be called an American hero or words to that effect.. just as he did with 9/11 and Afghanistan... He would probably rather be a hero then an unremembered nobody.. but still he is making an effort to stop something happening BEFORE it kills a heap of people.. Gotta jump in here and point out that a long line of American interventions into the affairs of sovereign nations show that American foreign policy is certainly not heeding the past today. Long line of friendly dictators installed by Americans that turn into enemies. The enemy of my enemy approach doesn't seem to work out so well, either. Shah in Iran, Pinochet in Chile, Noriega in Panama, Al Queda and then the Taliban in Afganistan, Saddam in Iraq .. who's going to be added to this list when Saddam falls? I think you'd need to be quite ignorant of history to be willing to risk a repeat performance here.. My $.02. Mick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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chill out guys, I like a heated discussion as much as the next guy, but when it degenerates to name calling and personal attacks, its not a discussion anymore.. its childish namecalling.. and I stopped doing that when I turned 27 some years back.. :-) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 1:14 AM To: ExpertMandrake-List Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 11:14, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Wed, Jan 29, 2003 at 10:53 -0500, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: That's right, Chuck; that's exactly what you would expect from a brainwashed socialist liberal with absolutely no facts on their side except for worthless emotional outbursts created by the flood of brainwash diarrea from the communist socialists they call their media. Of course you know exactly what you want to say with this? I do not. Of course you don't. They swallow without even looking. Now what is better? Swallowing the shit without looking or looking it up closely and then swallow it anyway like you apparently do? You tell me; you're the one that's full of shit. wobo -- LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.18-6mdk Mandrake Linux 8.2 Enlightenment 0.16.5-11mdkEvolution 1.0.2-5mdk Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
interestingly enough, the newbie list has been on topic all night... go figure :-) quote And what is democratic about having your leader appointed by a foreign authority, anyhow? /quote Didn't they get all the leaders of the various tribes together and let them elect one to lead??? Short of a dictator, what else could they do??? quote Dictators are a better bet than democracy, at least from an economic standpoint. The people of the country suffer, but you can't make an omelet (i.e. get access to cheap Oil in this case) without breaking a few eggs (i.e. murdering millions of civilians.) While we're learning from history, see U.S. involvement in Guatemala, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador for some examples. /quote I think most of the dictators were because its well known that you are more likely to win a war if you have an inside advantage... and that usually results in a dictator at the end of it all... Its definately wrong, The US has scored very badly in the past, but its history.. And I hope like hell they learn from it. believe it or not.. often a dictator is better economically then a democracy (at least initially).. simply because the leader need not worry about public opinion.. but that certainly doesn't make it right... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mick Szucs Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 1:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 12:18, Franki wrote: maybe they are learning.. albiet slowly.. They did not put a dictator in charge of afganistan... they tried to start a democracy if memory serves... Poor wording on my part - I was referring to the Millions of dollars in aid, weapons and training provided to Al Queda in the 80s, and the millions of dollars that Dubya's administration gave to the Taliban in 2001. And what is democratic about having your leader appointed by a foreign authority, anyhow? I can only assume they would do the same in Iraq.. if not because they learned from history. then because there is no military power in iraq now that the US could aid in taking power.. Saddam saw to that... Dictators are a better bet than democracy, at least from an economic standpoint. The people of the country suffer, but you can't make an omelet (i.e. get access to cheap Oil in this case) without breaking a few eggs (i.e. murdering millions of civilians.) While we're learning from history, see U.S. involvement in Guatemala, Chile, Nicaragua, El Salvador for some examples. Wow - I've not yet seen a single message related to Mandrake on here since I joined. I take that as an encouraging sign, the more dialog on these issues, the better off we all will be. My $.03, now. Mick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
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I have just two more comments on this thread... 1. Germans are not cowards. - They are mostly ashamed of the whole Hitler thing and what to guard against it ever happening again. (perhaps they are even paranoid of it happening again.)ie to learn from it. and that is as it should be. - Most people don't realise it, but Germany was Massively outnumbered in WWII, by about 10:1 or more they had a dumbass leader who did not listen to his own generals and flubbed many important decisions. and STILL, they almost won... but in the end, the dumb decisions cost them the war and thats also as it should be.. but just keep in mind, that it took the WHOLE world, 5 years to beat one country the size of Victoria (smallest state in Australia.) 2. Whatever the reasons, the US did join both wars in WWII, and its just as well they did.. because most of you would be speaking Japanese or German now, (assuming you are still alive) had they not joined the war effort. Thats just my take on history.. So saying that No one voted in the US as world police is silly, there is no other country capable of doing it right now.. and from a military standpoint, most of the other countries put together don't match the US.. Who else is there??? (Its also possible that the whole US/UN thing could be a global scale Good Cop Bad Cop scenario, where the US is the bad cop and the UN the good one.. Its not likely they would tell us if it were the case now is it?? Think about it, it actually fits doesn't it.. Countries like Iraq and leaders like Saddam, rely on the fact that the UN is very slow to do anything, and they forgive many many indescretions, because a collition of countries that all have their own agenda, will always have problems agreeing on anything until some mass violence occurs.. I am hoping that won't happen. but look how long the UN has put up with Iraq breaking their demands,, what is it, 12 years now??? If not for the US pushing the issue, the UN would spend another ten years pointlessly issuing demands to a dictactor who cares not a whistle for them... and eventually something would happen, people would die, and THEN the UN would do something.. Its not their fault.. but that doesn't change the fact that they nearly always respond AFTER the killing has begun or outright hostility is declaired.. One other thing.. with Germany, France and Russia, its possible that the reason they don't want war is because if the economic effect it would have on their countries to support such a war, or because they have agreements in place that would stop if war is declaired.. its possible they know without a doubt what is going on over there, and dont' want to be involved in a war anyway.. for monitary reasons or whatever, again, my point is that we just don't know. So not knowing, we should not be so quick to condemn.. if they are wrong.. it will come out eventually anyway. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 3:24 AM To: ExpertMandrake-List Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Wed, 2003-01-29 at 08:18, Dallam Wych wrote: I'm not religious, I wish I were. This madman and the options he has scare me to death. wobo I guess that perhaps is the way America and the uk feel when they hear your chancellor repetively refer the german way. Talk about scarey stuff, deja vu. No joke. First of all, this is not the right place to discuss this .. but we had many OT-discussions here, why not these... Yep, might as well get your two euro's in as well. Heh. WTF ... You think war is the only way ? You think US-american have the right for being world-police ? No, I don't think war is the only way. As for the US-American (sic) having the right to be the world police, I don't care much for that notion either. I am a firm believer that the US should withdraw from NATO and let the europeans deal with their own issues. Might as well withdraw from the United Nations as well, as it most certainly as become as weak as the United League ever was. I agree with your statement about the weakness and neutered nature of the UN. Too many people have died because of their inaction, which to the antilogic of the left seems to be the heroic thing to do these days. For the same reason however, I feel strongly that many people would die needlessly by the hands of dictators and terrorist regimes if the US did retract, similar to the deaths of those that have occurred already under the stewardship of the UN in the region around and in Iraq by virtue of the imaginary weapons of mass destruction that the liberals say don't exist. In a nutshell, I think the withdrawal of the US from the international scene would involve the deaths of entire populations of people, since the UN and the EU are going to do the heroic thing and stand by doing nothing, like they have for the last 12 years in response to
RE: [expert] sftp and chroot
So would I... I had to give out two logins recently, and would have loved to be able to lock them in their directory.. I was hoping Todd would respond with some wisdom on this one.. :-) rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus Atrebates Sent: Thursday, 30 January 2003 4:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] sftp and chroot -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 29 January 2003 02:24 pm, J.P. Pasnak wrote: I've been attempting to set up an enviroment that will let a user use sftp, but not allow them to 'walk' the rest of the system. I've tried _numerous_ different variations (created a chrooted user, using rbash or sftp-server as a shell, etc), and none of them seemed to work. I seem to be going in circles now, so if anyone has any insight, it would be appreciated. In case you get an answer offlist, I would appreciate a note on what you get. I would like such a capability myself - I haven't tried anything to that direction as yet because I didn't really think about the situation until you brought it up. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+ODTT1i/6R1B/Yh0RAmTOAJ9ZuT4yj9QpE7K3Y7Mn8wiHvT9JLwCggos+ kqrcAdU5LG0Z70Bvb5tQGZ0= =2tcP -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow?
get a grip people I don't know much about iraq.. none of us really do.. and thats the point, we hear them proclaim inocence.. and he here the US and others declare otherwise... who really knows... one thing I do know.. if they do nothing to iraq and saddam.. and another 9/11 happens.. millions will stand up and lynch Bush demanding to know why nothing was done beforehand.. why they were not warned.. why saddam was allowed to get that far... One thing we can pretty safely speculate.. saddam is in a much better position to either become a Terrorist (if he isn't already) or to finance them then the Taliban were.. its unlikely that if he did something that it would be as small as 9/11 (not that that was really small or minor, but compared to a nuke or similiar, it could be) The thing is, saddam could nuke a city in the US without giving a shit.. the US can't drop one on Iraq in response because of innocent casualties... and the neighbouring Arab countries.. some of whom are not the enemy... do you think saddam doesn't know that??? Also, I am not a yank, I'm Australian, but IF the US are telling the truth.. then hell yes, we should overthrow saddam.. and for once we should do it BEFORE a tragedy occurs, not after.. Thats all I am saying on the matter, lets move this to the newbie list or off mandrake altogether... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Wednesday, 29 January 2003 2:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] OT Will there be a tomorrow? On Tue, Jan 28, 2003 at 23:22 -0500, Mark Weaver wrote: Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Sorry to bother you, but we were discussing whether there will be a future for MandrakeSoft. After tonight I wonder whether there will be a future for us all and the world as we know it. I listened to the US-Amercan president. I'm not religious, I wish I were. This madman and the options he has scare me to death. wobo wobo, I watched the speech as well, but I'm a little unclear as to what you're refering to. What did I miss? ??? Did you miss the phrase We are peaceful. But if war is forced upon us we will fight. Hitler used that phrase when he told the German people that Since 5:45 we return fire. Did you miss the way he told the american people that he is decided to go to war? Did you miss that in his whole speech he never spoke about the consequences of that war? wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Postfix is braindead!
if memory serves,,, postfix on mdk9 is run in a chroot jail, meaning it can access nothing not inside its jail.. have a look in /var/spool/postfix/etc all the files in there must match their counterparts in /etc that is most likely your problem, not postfix but chroot. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Praedor Tempus Sent: Saturday, 25 January 2003 1:45 AM To: expert Subject: [expert] Postfix is braindead! I don't understand this. I have a fully qualified hostname (stonekeep.ravenhome.net). I have DNS configured proper (via kppp). I can ping any host/site I wish without problems. Postfix, on the other hand, is incapable of sending any emails because it invariably fails to find hostnames. From my logs: Jan 24 17:40:40 stonekeep postfix/smtp[4000]: 7460240224E: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=none, delay=0, status=deferred (Name service error for yahoo.com: Host not found, try again) This from a message I tried to send to my email address at yahoo. I can ping yahoo, I can dig yahoo. DNS IS working. Why can't postfix see anything? Why does it constantly defer mails when all the hosts I email DO exist, are pingable, and DO have valid names? praedor __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] digital cert on mandrake apache.
Hi all, I am setting up a web server mdk9.0 box using extranet apache from mandrake.. I have the cert, I have replaced the key with a encrypted one, I have put the cert file in /etc/ssl/apache along with the new server key... and tried to restart.. it stops dead at Starting httpd just sits there and does nothing.. I assumed that might be because apache comes standard set to wait for the 'builtin' command to auto fillin the password.. I don't know how to tell builtin to do that.. anyone know? in the meantime, I hashed out the line in the ssl conf that specified 'builtin' and entered the password manually. Can anyone fill me in here on what I have to do to get apache to restart without admin intervention??? many thanks rgds Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] troubles port forwarding
I don't know if this is solved yet, (I have 900 unread in my inbox) but show us the lines from gshield you are using for the forwarding??? if memory serves, you set FORWARDING=YES and under port 25 you set it to FORWARD and put the forwarding IP's address in the box... if you did that and it isn't working, you can use the 'forwards' file in /etc/firewall/conf I am using that now to forward port 10005 on the linux box to port 80 on a windows box inside.. (so my work guys can see my IIS server for demo's etc.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Saturday, 18 January 2003 7:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] troubles port forwarding Hi list, Today I decided I was going to make some changes to my home network. So, I setup an old machine, tossed in two new nics, installed Mandrake 8.2 on it, and once I got connectivity to the Internet, and the local lan I installed and configured gShield. Now, this is where it gets real interesting. After I read some and doodle some more I managed to get things working. Or, so I thought. I've got all my services running on a seperate machine. Mailserver, web server, etc... I've got all the forwarding stuff defined in gShield, and in fact it appears that at least traffic destined for the mailserver, 192.168.0.3 is indeed being forwarded to that machine from the firewall, 192.168.0.1. Now, here's where the rub comes in...ALL of the connections to the mailserver on port 25 are being rejected. here's an example: reject: RCPT from smtp.mandrake.com[63.209.80.248]: 554 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Recipient address rejected: Relay access denied; from=[EMAIL PROTECTED] to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] The above excerpt from the mail log is the only evidence that forwarding is at least working on that part. Else, if it weren't then I don't think I'd even see that much while tailing /var/log/mail/info. Traffic for the webserver and any and all other services does not appear to be getting forwarded to their destinations at all, however my primary concern right now is the mail. That is #1 priority. Anyone got any ideas? I've been working at this since 8 this morning and I passed crabby about 600 miles ago and am fast approaching *hon? where'd I put that damn Shotgun and those deer slugs...I'm gonna kill it!* thanks, Mark I suppose I should have a pithy saying here... The brain reports all neurons busy processing sub-routines are currently occupied. Retry your query in five minutes. _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Dev tool for GUI perl apps using TK.
Hi guys, Do any of you know any GUI apps that give perl TK apps something of a VB type interface??? I have some big TK apps to write.. and I was wondering what tools mandrake developers used to aid in the process.. I ask since a great many of Mandrake's GUI tools are perl scripts.. regards Franki Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] DBI/DBD::mysql on Mandrake 9.0
Hi guys, I just heard that the perl DBD::mysql module has not yet been ported over to perl 5.8 Can anyone verify that?? Why on earth would mandrake standardize on 5.8 if such a basic module is missing? I mean who doesn't use mysql with their perl scripts??? I have a rather large webapp with mysql DB to put online for work.. and I was going to use a mandrake box as the server.. if I can't get the DBI code to work.. then I am shit out of luck and will have to use either an older distro, or figure out another alternative.. A search of rpmfind: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=perl-DBDsubmit=Search+.. .system=Mandrakearch= shows modules for CSV and pg... but no Mysql... (neither did rpmdrake obviously) Any tips on what to do here??? does anyone know if the module will compile on mdk9.0 I suppose I could install perl5.6.1 on the box.. but that would likely break all the mandrake stuff that now relies on 5.8... I'd love to hear some opinions here.. regards Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] DBI/DBD::mysql on Mandrake 9.0
cancel that question... I just discovered the package is called perl-Mysql-1.22_19-5mdk The naming conventions for perl modules in mandrake really needs some work... they should copy the ppm package names, at least they are uniform.. it should be something like this: perl-DBD-mysql-xx.xx.rpm Just like the pg module.. eg: perl-DBD-Pg-1.01-4mdk.i586.rpm but there appears to be no real naming convention in place here go figure... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] DBI/DBD::mysql on Mandrake 9.0 Hi guys, I just heard that the perl DBD::mysql module has not yet been ported over to perl 5.8 Can anyone verify that?? Why on earth would mandrake standardize on 5.8 if such a basic module is missing? I mean who doesn't use mysql with their perl scripts??? I have a rather large webapp with mysql DB to put online for work.. and I was going to use a mandrake box as the server.. if I can't get the DBI code to work.. then I am shit out of luck and will have to use either an older distro, or figure out another alternative.. A search of rpmfind: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=perl-DBDsubmit=Search+.. .system=Mandrakearch= shows modules for CSV and pg... but no Mysql... (neither did rpmdrake obviously) Any tips on what to do here??? does anyone know if the module will compile on mdk9.0 I suppose I could install perl5.6.1 on the box.. but that would likely break all the mandrake stuff that now relies on 5.8... I'd love to hear some opinions here.. regards Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] DBI/DBD::mysql on Mandrake 9.0
Seriously That cracks me up... Its thinking like that that is holding mandrake back... No point having all the LSB compliance in the world if your files are all named incorrectly.. The guy that wrote it, did so as a DBD driver for MySQL.. thats its purpose, thats why it was written.. but they contradict themselves anyway.. by that the pg driver should just have been called: perl-pg.xx.xx but they got that one right and put DBD in there.. No admins will take mandrake seriously while they have dumbass problems like this.. I guess thats called packages arogance to think you know better then those that wrote the software that they are packaging??? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Friday, 3 January 2003 2:41 AM To: Expert List Subject: RE: [expert] DBI/DBD::mysql on Mandrake 9.0 On Thu, 2003-01-02 at 01:05, Franki wrote: cancel that question... I just discovered the package is called perl-Mysql-1.22_19-5mdk The naming conventions for perl modules in mandrake really needs some work... they should copy the ppm package names, at least they are uniform.. it should be something like this: perl-DBD-mysql-xx.xx.rpm Just like the pg module.. eg: perl-DBD-Pg-1.01-4mdk.i586.rpm but there appears to be no real naming convention in place here go figure... rgds Frank Frank I've complained about this kind of nameing problem in the cooker list, and been told that I was incorrect that MDK's naming is right and the rest are wrong... *sigh*. James -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Franki Sent: Thursday, 2 January 2003 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] DBI/DBD::mysql on Mandrake 9.0 Hi guys, I just heard that the perl DBD::mysql module has not yet been ported over to perl 5.8 Can anyone verify that?? Why on earth would mandrake standardize on 5.8 if such a basic module is missing? I mean who doesn't use mysql with their perl scripts??? I have a rather large webapp with mysql DB to put online for work.. and I was going to use a mandrake box as the server.. if I can't get the DBI code to work.. then I am shit out of luck and will have to use either an older distro, or figure out another alternative.. A search of rpmfind: http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=perl-DBDsubmit=Search+.. .system=Mandrakearch= shows modules for CSV and pg... but no Mysql... (neither did rpmdrake obviously) Any tips on what to do here??? does anyone know if the module will compile on mdk9.0 I suppose I could install perl5.6.1 on the box.. but that would likely break all the mandrake stuff that now relies on 5.8... I'd love to hear some opinions here.. regards Frank __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft
See that might be one of the problems... Mandrake need to think globally, not french.. Whats the biggest market for mandrake? I doubt its french... The number one rule that explains the M$ saga is targeted marketing.. They know what will get the possible users in a specific country and they hit them with it... Mandrake may not have the beans for that.. but they should at least target the marketing at the biggest potential market.. which is probably the US and UK... (but I could be wrong on that one.) still, its a thought.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Wolfgang Bornath Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 8:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft On Fri, Dec 27, 2002 at 07:17 -0500, ET wrote: Name regognition would be my bet. I am still pushing for a sticker to replace my old rainbow bitten apple logo on my RX3 mazda. heck I would print them if I had a good logo that I thought might get attention. anyone with any Ideas can e-mail me off list even. While I think a star and a penguin should be on the logo, maybe a big M or the word mandrake in the background would be good. Please do not include the logos on any Mandrake supported web site, since I have already considered them. If I had my way, an extra dollar would be tacked on to the Powerpack and Prosuite boxes to pay for and include the logo sticker, and a note encourging everyone to show the bird on their cars. I firmly believe Apple survived without Steve Jobs, mainly because of the lasting advertising value of all those apple logos on the back of VWs and Mazdas. let's consider some low cost methods of getting name recognition for this great product, that by it's nature uses word of mouth (and word on the internet) as it's most important advertising tool. I think this is one good example how different nation's people think different. I talked to various people at MandrakeSoft during visits to the Paris HQ and they think French. You (and a vast majority of Mandrake Linux users think US-American or Canadian. For you this brand awareness is of a very different value than for the french mind. Of course I may be completely wrong here, just my impression. I've the same opinion like you (my best example is the Deutsche Bank logo, in fact I know the creator of that brilliant thing). I'm wearing my Mandrake cap most times and there's a Mandrake penguin on my letter box. Of course my notebook brandishes a large penguin sticker and if I'd own a car I would have a fake license plate in the rear window MDK TUX or similar. There should be something done about that. Just those few goodies in the MandrakeStore just ain't 'nuff. I suggest a mass mailing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] expressing wishes for the stickers they once included in the boxed sets (I still have some!) and other goodies like that. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] free (as in beer) ( suddenly became OT.)
ohhh this ones gonna get interesting... How about we just say there is not a race of angels on this earth, nor a race of devils.. more of a mixture of both in all The question we should all be asking is which am I?? rather then passing judgement on others based solely on conjecture and opinion... I'm australian, and I do what i can, and i consider myself neither devil nor angel.. but I try for the later :-) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Miark Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 4:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] free (as in beer) On Fri, 27 Dec 2002 16:56:36 +1100 Mcleod, Ian [EMAIL PROTECTED] deficated the following: Ian, One would suspect in this context that many Americans have interpreted their constitutional right to freedom as freedom to consume rather than freedom from oppression - Jesus, you leftists can't say _anything_ without insulting Americans and/or conservatives, can you. That makes your accusations both wrong AND pathetic. hence now why Americans are the largest consumers per person on the planet (next to Australia where I am from - shamefully). Oooo, yes, consumerism is the scourge of our modern day. I really long for the good old days when a man was forced to wipe his ass with a corncob instead of BUYING some toilet paper. Or when people would suffer intolerable pain instead of BUYING medication developed via capitalism. Oh yes, and it was great when we would have to look up information in an encyclopedia down at the city library instead of sitting down at a computer I BOUGHT and looking something up online. I know you're not low enough to do any of those things, Ian. God bless you, Ian. I'm glad your conscience (so well packaged in home-knit clothes) has kept on the straightened arrow as an example to us all. Yes, I agree. I feel nothing but shame, day-in, day-out, wanting a shit-free ass. Which is good--American's really have an obligation to loathe themselves. Right? The word freedom is one of the most 'flexible' words in the English language. It once meant 'freedom through community' - not freedom through not giving a flying rat about anyone else. Right, right. I have never met an American who gave to charity, who opened a door for somebody else, who participated in cause, who volunteered their time to community events, who picked up a hitch-hiker. They don't give their new neighbors a welcoming plate of cookies. They don't stop to help people who are broken down on the side of the road. They would never think to donate clothes and furniture to Salvation Army/goodwill shops--everything goes into the landfill. An American would never go out his or her way to contribute money to victims of catastrophe such as floods, hurricanes, or terror attacks. Forget about it. It would never cross their mind. All they can think of is, What's in it for me? America is a nation of dogs, I tell you. Ravenous dogs. Thankfully - many Linux-heads don't yet seem to have gone down the path the American constitution has - to reinterpret 'freedom' and 'rights' in a self centered narcissistic way. I shudder to think what would would happen to the rest of us if model individuals like you lost your modesty and tact, and instead started insulting and condemning a whole nation of citizens because you thought your point of view was superior. What hypocrisy that would be. But I digress, you would never stoop to that particular brand of egocentrism, would you. Miark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft
Well, even though I can't really afford it right now,, you have convinced me
to join the club for a year (well see after that.) I've bought powerpacks
from mandrakestore before, and I will purchase 9.1 the same way..
Thats as much as I can do right now...
$120 AUD a year is quiet alot of money to pay.. would be double that for
the silver member..
if only the AU dollar was worth something..
rgds
Frank
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vincent Danen
Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 2:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft
On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 01:15 AM, James Sparenberg wrote:
[...]
So while James made some very good points, they're pretty much
irrelevant to the topic at hand which is, looking at the subject line,
Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft, which is happening *now*... not
next year.
Hope everyone had a great Christmas!
I was commenting on the letter in the thread immediately before me, and
if the short term doesn't include the long term (or vice versa ) It can
be counter productive. If MDK had a million box sets in the stores
right now. Making 5 bucks a crack... would 5 mill help the short term
bottom line? Yes I know that it can often be 30 to 60 days before this
Yes, but you're still missing the point, James. I don't know if there
*are* a million boxed sets in stores right now. Sure $5M would be
helpful, it would be excellent! But if those boxes aren't there
*today*, I fail to see how this helps us get to the point where we will
be putting that number of boxes on store shelves.
comes in but this kind of recievable would have possibly prevented the
pull out of certain funds MDK was expecting (taken from the website
announcement.) I don't wish or desire to denigrate the original
letter..
I don't know about a pull-out of funds. It's been postponed/delayed
according to the website announcement, not retracted or cancelled.
but rather say yes I agree but more is needed for both short and
long term success. I want to buy MDK 11.4 (yes I know they never get
that high with sub numbers *grin*) I just hope there won't be another
crisis like this right after 9.1 comes out, but the pattern is in
place. I'm a club member, I buy my disks (not just download them,
although I do that while waiting for my disks) I encourage others to
buy
not download. And right now... I'm tapped. My company is reaching an
equally tight cash situation... but then again we are still
privately funded with no Angel or Vulture investment. (soon to change)
And I thank you for that, James. The issue at this instant in time, if
we could freeze on today, is not new users; it's existing users that
aren't doing their part (freeloaders if you will). Mandrake Linux is
perhaps one of the most popular Linux distributions out there, but
you'd never know it in terms of money. One of out greatest strengths
and, inevitably, our greatest weaknesses, is allowing the entire distro
to be downloaded for nothing. Don't tell me that people out there
don't take advantage of this and continue to download ISOs and use
Mandrake all over the place without contributing a dime. These are the
same people who will whine and complain if Mandrake ceases to exist, or
who currently scream and yell if something doesn't work to their liking.
I don't know. Maybe we need to go with SuSE's model and allow a one
ISO demo a few months after release to prevent people from doing this.
Then again, who wants to see Mandrake become another SuSE? I think
the fact that Mandrake does this is, again, it's greatest strength and
I'd hate to see that change as I think it would change the entire
philosophy of the company. So is that really an option? I hope not.
At any rate, I don't think there is much value in debating/discussing
this further. The real value is for people to step up and do something
to keep their distribution alive. That's right... *their*
distribution; it isn't our distro. It's *your* distro. We have opened
the process so much that almost anyone can put their mark on the distro
it is, essentially, a community distribution that we just maintain and
put the nuts and bolts on. If having that kind of distribution is
important to people, I trust they put their money into it to ensure
it's survival.
I don't want to sit here and become an evangelist for Mandrake...
that's not my job. But I do feel that certain things need to be
understood about how all of this works.
I also don't want anyone to feel we are neglecting the long term for
the sake of the short term as that is not the case at all.
I've said enough on this particular thread. I think it's time to have
actions speak instead of words.
Thanks.
--
MandrakeSoft Security; http://www.mandrakesecure.net/
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RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft
I was just about to try signing up and then got this email... don't they accept credit cards from Australia I bought my 8.1 powerpack about a year or so ago that way, I just assumed the club would work the same way... it doesn't??? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mcleod, Ian Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 9:43 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft too right - I just gave up waiting around for Mandrake to make it easy for them to receive $$$ and just stuck with the download version - because by the time it finally arrives in Australia it's probably out of date anyway. And I never received a reply to my 15 or so emails regarding Mandrake Club and how to pay for it from Australia either. Mandrake really need to try harder if they want to remain financially healthy (indeed I hope they still are!) -Original Message- From: J. Grant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 12:10 PM To: Vincent Danen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft Hi Vincent, And I thank you for that, James. The issue at this instant in time, if we could freeze on today, is not new users; it's existing users that aren't doing their part (freeloaders if you will). Mandrake Linux is perhaps one of the most popular Linux distributions out there, but you'd never know it in terms of money. One of out greatest strengths and, inevitably, our greatest weaknesses, is allowing the entire distro to be downloaded for nothing. Don't tell me that people out there don't take advantage of this and continue to download ISOs and use Mandrake all over the place without contributing a dime. These are the same people who will whine and complain if Mandrake ceases to exist, or who currently scream and yell if something doesn't work to their liking. I don't know. Maybe we need to go with SuSE's model and allow a one ISO demo a few months after release to prevent people from doing this. Then again, who wants to see Mandrake become another SuSE? I think the fact that Mandrake does this is, again, it's greatest strength and I'd hate to see that change as I think it would change the entire philosophy of the company. So is that really an option? I hope not. I noticed this issue, it is confounded by the fact that mdkstore releases are upto 1 month after the free (as in beer) downloads that I often have to take (even though i have an order in the post). Others might just not bother with the purchase of a box set if they download it, i've downloaded ISO's for several releases. If mdk can either speed up the release of cds in the shop or delay the ISO download release they can make 20% more cash I am sure. Please pass on my ideas Regards and happy new year JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] perl 5.8.0 is broke on mdk 9 ?
I have a nine machine.. and just as a test.. I installed CGI::Session and HTML::Template on it.. They both went just fine.. (I have a script that uses both running on it now.) The modules sometimes have to be modified for 5.8, it ususally states if its 5.8 ready in the docs somewhere.. (or the search.cpan.org summary screen.) Does mandrake have rpm's of the modules you want?? what about contribs? or plf.. exhaust your rpm options first.. what modules are you having trouble with? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jerry Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 6:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] perl 5.8.0 is broke on mdk 9 ? perl runs ok, but I have been unsuccessful in installing ANY CPAN module. i know how to, it is just that for one reason or another the modules never compile, and stuff it ought to be able to find it doesn't. Should I just uninstall the perl rpm and then install perl from perl.org? -- -- sillema sillema nika su -- Value Freedom (Linux) -- not Tyranny (Microsoft) Linux Registered User 275424 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft
maybe they had to lay off the guys that answered the phones and emails :) seriously though, thats the difference between a small efficient business, and one that wants to be but isn't.. If people write in asking questions that will lead to mandrake making money.. you'd think it should be a priority for them to answer wouldn't you??? anything with queries about shareprices or problems with mandrakestore etc should have priority over nearly anything else since they are the revenue streams that mandrake need.. god knows how much income mdk have lost by ignoring such emails.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of J. Grant Sent: Friday, 27 December 2002 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Increase of Capital for Mandrakesoft 2.27 €, but they are selling for 2.2 to us :) anyway i emailed them, they replied asking for my name, that was the last I have heard. perhaps the amount I wanted was not enough, but then asking users for support is never going to generate 300K €. JG Mcleod, Ian wrote: What are the Mandrake shares looking like right now? And why is Mandrake so disinterested in raising revenue out of Europe and North America. I swear I have emailed Mandrake 15 times asking how I can pay for a club membership - not ONE reply!! I am beginning to suspect that Mandrake is not too fussed about their financial health.. Shame really - I really like Mandrake! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] IRC Chat server software
I'd be really interested in that also..
I would like to create a company IRC server for the IT team...
encrypted would be great too..
Also, being able to access from remote locations on a secure encrypted
channel would be necessary..
Anyone that could help with this would be fantastic..
If you write it up,, i'll be the first one singing your praises. :-)
a mandrake contribs rpm would be great too. :-)
rgds
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Friday, December 20, 2002, at 06:16 AM, Tibbetts, Ric wrote:
All;
I need to set up a small (private) IRC Chat server. Can anyone
recommend any good software?
I used the package just called irc, version 2.10.3p1. Might also be
called ircd; not sure where I grabbed it, and a certain patch for it,
from. I can send both to you, if you like.
I'm running it chroot on one public machine for the secteam, only
listening to the localhost interface. The secteam then has to ssh in
to one account, which only does port forwarding to that port.
Makes a great secure IRC server. Also allows me to make sure that only
the people whom I want to grant access can get onto the server, and
ensures all of our communication is encrypted. On the client end, one
connects to localhost:6667 after establishing the ssh connection.
I'll do a writeup of this one of these days with links to all of the
appropriate software. It will probably help me too because I really
don't remember what I all did to get it up and running. =)
I'll warn you that many IRCd packages are serious PITA to deal with.
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RE: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
yup, I'd agree with that.. So far the only drive brand I've not had issues with.. is IBM.. I have had one IBM drive fail, but it was a travelstar.. (laptop drive) and it had been hammered for 3 years. dropped twice and generally misused. and it still gave me time to copy all the important stuff off before it died.. Till I have an IBM or two fail, they are still my favorite... Incidently, when I worked for octek, we sold Fujitsu drives. (just after seagate bought conner) and even back them we had tons of failures, most of the faulty ones were DOA, they never made it off the premises.. They then swapped to quantum... Rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lyvim Xaphir Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 8:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity --- Ronald J. Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 17 December 2002 02:04 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: What is amazing to me is that nobody has had anything to say (positive or negative) about: 1) IBM drives 2) Seagate drives I have my own personal experiences with them, but am curious what others have seen. Blue skies...Todd Todd, IBM released a statement saying that their drives were not meant to be used 24 hours a day/7 days a week. (or some such to that effect). Since then, their reputation has been less than glowing. I've got a 60 gig Deskstar IDE that I've had no problems with (so far). Got a 20 gig IDE Seagate in my youngests' computer - no problems with it so far either. I believe that any manufacturer is going to have manufacturing problems at one time or another. It is statistically inevitable. IBM referred to the statement above afterward, stating that there was alot of misunderstanding about that statement; however we all know how the internet is these days and the negatives cascaded rapidly, as they are wont to do on any vulnerable topic, be it Mandrakeclub or Trent Lott. I have two IBM Deskstars here that have performed flawlessly since I got them almost two years ago. The last Seagate that I got came from the factory with the lid sealed on with chrome tape. After that I vowed never again to touch a seagate. Within some months after that happened, the Walnut Creek servers were taken down so that they could remove all of the top of the line Barracudas they had just installed. Everybody deserves a manufacturing defect break now and again. But if you're Western Digital and you cut the data crc checks from the hard drive design in order to gain a performance edge, that's clearly not a manufacturing defect issue. That's a design issue. If you are willing to cut primary features out of a design in order to save money, then what else is wrong? More to the point, what else have they not told you and what else will you find out about later from the linux hardware testers because the win hardware testers don't have a clue? These are problems that IBM does *not* have and it's why I'm sticking with them as long as I can. --LX __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity
I have yet to have a failed IBM drive.. I have 2 IBM 40gigs and 1 IBM 60gig drive and all of them run 24/7 with no issues.. All are around 1-1.5 years old. so maybe I got lucky and got them before they started going bad.. I've heard bad stories... As for Seagate.. I have one 7 month old 40gig that thus far has caused no problems.. I have only good things to say until such time that a drive fails ... :-) touch wood that I only ever say good things.. rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Todd Lyons Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 3:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Western digital drives don't work?/maximum capacity -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Brinkman wrote on Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 10:29:15PM + : Bottom line is hardware is a moving target, always has been. Unfortunately, specially with other than with M$, it's a downhill slide towards Junkyard Wars. Maxtor seems to be the safest bet right What is amazing to me is that nobody has had anything to say (positive or negative) about: 1) IBM drives 2) Seagate drives I have my own personal experiences with them, but am curious what others have seen. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/3VSlp7v05cW2woRAn2iAJ0QHljt2GlH77JuqXQCouJM61BwowCeOiyQ wqWblDUKE1e/JpDW/EKx9Mc= =HWLg -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] CGI session management.
I ended up using CGI::Session.. The access is all via 128 Verisign cert.. so no probs there.. CGI::Session also has an ip check feature you can turn on to make sure a login ID has the same IP each time. It also allows me to expire a session if its not been used for 15 minutes.. It does alot of other cool stuff.. including the storage of anything you want in the session data.. so you can save data between itinerations of the script.. (I'll eventually move to mod_perl, but for now this will be fine.. its all taint mode, using strict and warnings reporting no errors etc.. so mod_perl should be easy to swap to later.) Also if you use CGI::Session with MySQL, you get the added benefit of the db username/password. (The default mode of CGI::Session is to save state info into a session file in a tmp dir somewhere..) Its a very useful module.. together with CGI::Application and HTML::Template they are my favorite modules.. Till I find a better one.. (I change favorites alot while searching CPAN :-) rgds franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Wednesday, 18 December 2002 3:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] CGI session management. Franki wrote: Hi Guys, I have to setup an online database of our clients details so they can log in and see all their latest transactions and stuff... I have written most of the app already using perl with CGI::Application and HTML::Template (and of course DBI..) However, one thing concerns me.. session management.. I could use CGI::Session to do the job, (previously, for non secret stuff, I have just set a cookie and used that to validate login.. but cookies are not secure enough for this applicaion.) After much reading and searching, I found it said many times that session management was best done by the web server not the application... can anyone extrapolate on that? Is there a cross platform way of doing it??? something I could move over to one of our other servers.. (maybe even the one IIS box we have..) or should I just use CGI::Session with MySQL lookups to do it??? In the same vein, can .htaccess files be setup to use MySQL tables to validate users??? Any tips would be much appreciated. regards Frank Frank, I've been looking at this a lot lately as well for some of the same reasons and applications. One of the things I'm seeing pop up quite often is the use of .htaccess files for authentication with a bit of encryption for good measure. You might also include a small routine in your main PERL script to allow for user authentication storing the values in a table which is readable only by authentic users knowing their login. You could then use SSL connection between the CGI and the database for sending the username/password pairs over an unsecure line. I've been using a variation of this scheme to accomodate lower security needs where authentication is required for access points to an online application and it works out nicely for all involved. Of course the authentication routines have to be at the forefront of the entire application and nothing else may proceed unless the user is properly authenticated making the PERL program accessible only in a very small part. If there is no good value pair stored inside the program, which should be wiped out at session end, then any and all commands passed to the program are outrightly rejected by the program. Mark Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing [was too long]
yeah, I guess I could try that.. might be easier to just reinstall cups and postfix.. my main reason is I want it to fix the /etc/alternative links.. They are all now pointing where they should be thanks to everyones help,, but the eventual targets are missing.. since they all seem to relate to cups and postfix.. maybe just reinstalling them would fix things.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Philip Webb Sent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 7:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing [was too long] 021215 Franki wrote: I made the mistake on this box not selecting documentation when I installed the system. I installed man manually later, but I rather suspect that all the packages that were installed before I had man onboard didn't install the man stuff. Is there any way to put all the man stuff back in without reinstalling all the cups and postfix stuff? FWIW i've had problems with earlier Mdks when i didn't install all the dox at the start. try doing an update partial installation, simply selecting documentation. otherwise, you'll probably have to re-install, but more carefully. generally, Mandrake staff seem to test the full basic installation thoro'ly, but cannot as humans be expected to check every permutation of part-installs. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing... can someone supply the targets to the following links??
Can someone tell me where the following symlinks should be pointing??? /usr/share/man/man1/cancel.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/newaliases.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/mailq.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/lpr.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/lpq.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/lprm.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/lp.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man1/lpstat.1.bz2 /usr/share/man/man5/aliases.5.bz2 /usr/share/man/man8/lpc.8.bz2 Mine are all screwed up.. (I think its my fault, I tried to manually fix the broken symlinks... I get alot of messages like the following at present: bzcat: ./cancel.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. can anyone send me a printout of: ll /usr/share/man/man1 ll /usr/share/man/man5 ll /usr/share/man/man8 please?? I have some packages to build and want to get this stuff sorted before I start... Many thanks.. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing... can someone supplythe targets to the following links??
was for 9.0 I was chasing..
are they likely to be that different? I wouldn't imagine so..
rgds
Frank
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lieven Van Acker
Sent: Sunday, 15 December 2002 3:25 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing... can someone
supplythe targets to the following links??
Here you have a list all symlinked man pages in attachment
(Linux mandrake 8.2 using
find /usr/share/man/ -type l -exec ls -l \{\} \; | gzip -c
mansymlinks.gz
)
if you need it for another version just let me know...
Regards and goodluck,
Lieven
Op za 14-12-2002, om 20:02 schreef Franki:
Can someone tell me where the following symlinks should be pointing???
/usr/share/man/man1/cancel.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/newaliases.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/mailq.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/lpr.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/lpq.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/lprm.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/lp.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/lpstat.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man5/aliases.5.bz2
/usr/share/man/man8/lpc.8.bz2
Mine are all screwed up.. (I think its my fault, I tried to manually fix
the
broken symlinks...
I get alot of messages like the following at present:
bzcat: ./cancel.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file.
can anyone send me a printout of:
ll /usr/share/man/man1
ll /usr/share/man/man5
ll /usr/share/man/man8
please??
I have some packages to build and want to get this stuff sorted before I
start...
Many thanks..
rgds
Frank
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RE: [expert] RE: /etc/alternatives listing.. Think I have found the cause of my problem.
I think I know the problem, but not the solution... I made the mistake on this box not selecting documentation when I installed the system. I thought that it would not install all the html docs and such, I didn't know it would leave of man altogether.. I installed man manually later, but I rather suspect that all the packages that were installed before I had man onboard didn't install the man stuff.. Is there any way to put all the man stuff back in without reinstalling all the cups and postfix stuff any tips would be great.. Thanks to those who provided the info that allowed me to reach my conclusion..(most of the targets of the symlinks don't exist.. so I can't link to them.. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake Security MNF..
Hi guys, I have just downloaded mnf and burnt it.. Before i start playing with it. (I'm gonna setup a system to trial it.) I figured I'd ask if anyone knows it well here.. my questions. 1. for someone familiar with mdk9, how hard is it to lean mnf's ins and outs?? I mean is the basic structure different??? 2. Can extra stuff be installed or is it locked down??? 3. Does it have to be configured via the interface or can I do stuff the old manual txt editing way?? I never tried the old mandrake secure versions before, so I am unfamiliar with their layout.. Any info would be great.. I have read the mandrake pages.. but apart from advertising blurb, there doesn't appear to be much detail in what I read.. rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] clonning HD
Thats an interesting point... I have a spare 8 gig hard disk here.. I was toying with the idea of setting it up with all the packages and settings I use accross our network.. as an example: ext3 all round. postfix=amavis-new=spamassasin/Trend filescan and the dozens of modules compiled to get it all working. it takes ages to set this all up over and over again.. would be great if I had the base install on my 8gig drive, and could use something to mirror it over to another drive.. I don't care about the partition size, I could resize them myself easily enough if I need to. I just get sick of setting up the same type of box's over and over again... One of these days I will play with making my own rpms.. so I could just install them all in one hit.. but right now I don't have time to do that.. (incidently, how hard would it be to make a single rpm that would install all my spamassasin/amavis-new/filescan stuff???) I only know perl and the basics of ansi c++, so I don't know if I have the required knowledge to do it. any tips? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva Sent: Friday, 13 December 2002 9:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] clonning HD Thank you Peter, However, with dump/restore I couldn't change my filesystem from ext2 to reiserfs, could I? Then here is my proposed mini how-to and, please, see if it's right: 1- Install new bigger HD 2- Format (with reiserfs in my case) and mount it 3- copy whole old HD to the new one (but how? With a simple 'cp', 'cpio', 'dd' or 'dump'?) 3- Run 'mkinitrd' and lilo 4- Pray I would ask to anyone else look too this, please. Bye, On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Peter Stokes wrote: Hi Alan dd will only copy block for block normally, so if you are copying from a 40Gb disk to an 80Gb, the resulting filesystem will still only be 40Gb. Much better to use dump/restore etc and reinstall LILO etc to transfer it. The other benefit dump/restore is each file is treated as such, rather than just a bunch of disk blocks which is a good check that the filesystem consistency is good. If you just want to clone same size disk to disk then you can use dd as a short cut, but if you have time go the dump route. Just my 2p worth, but has worked for me over many years. Peter -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva Sent: 13 December 2002 11:49 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] clonning HD Hi List, I have an idea about how 'dd' can be powerful. However I don't know if it's able to clone my HD to another bigger size one. If so, how could I do it? If not, could someone suggest me a programme or something to clone a HD with data and whole OS to a new one Many thanks in advance, Cheers, --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil -- --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Recovering Data
I have done it with Seagate SCSI drives before,, worked a treat.. just make sure they are exactly the same drives... and make sure that you are careful, some drives have a ribbon cable between the inards and the circuit board... others use a plug system on the circuit board... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva Sent: Thursday, 12 December 2002 11:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Recovering Data Hi List, A friend of mine had a serious problem with her HD. Since we believe it must be a electronic problem rather than a physical one (hope data still there), we thinking about changing HD controller (electronic part) by another from a good HD (same model). Have someone here tried something like that? Any help, suggestion or idea would be very welcome! Thanks in advance. Cheers, --- Alan Wilter S. da Silva --- Laboratório de Física Biológica Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ Rio de Janeiro, Brasil Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] md5sums
do a seach for a new zealand program called md5summer... that will do the job... used it many times.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Daniel Anderson Sent: Friday, 13 December 2002 5:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] md5sums Hi, A friend with a high speed connection is downloading an iso for me with windows. Is there a way to check the md5sums with windows? If so how? Thanks, Dan -- 4:23pm up 9 days, 1:46, 1 user, load average: 2.04, 2.05, 2.08 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] CGI session management.
Hi Guys, I have to setup an online database of our clients details so they can log in and see all their latest transactions and stuff... I have written most of the app already using perl with CGI::Application and HTML::Template (and of course DBI..) However, one thing concerns me.. session management.. I could use CGI::Session to do the job, (previously, for non secret stuff, I have just set a cookie and used that to validate login.. but cookies are not secure enough for this applicaion.) After much reading and searching, I found it said many times that session management was best done by the web server not the application... can anyone extrapolate on that? Is there a cross platform way of doing it??? something I could move over to one of our other servers.. (maybe even the one IIS box we have..) or should I just use CGI::Session with MySQL lookups to do it??? In the same vein, can .htaccess files be setup to use MySQL tables to validate users??? Any tips would be much appreciated. regards Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator.
Does anyone know how I can setup a pdf printer on linux machine that would work for windows machines on a lan?? I mean that I want to have a pdf generator setup as a shared printer in cups/samba and have the windows machines be able to print to it??? maybe setup to save the generated pdf file to their home directory so they can access it via network neighbourhood...?? Anyone know if this is possible??? regards Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator.
Fantastic... thanks heaps... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 11:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator. On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Franki wrote: Does anyone know how I can setup a pdf printer on linux machine that would work for windows machines on a lan?? I mean that I want to have a pdf generator setup as a shared printer in cups/samba and have the windows machines be able to print to it??? maybe setup to save the generated pdf file to their home directory so they can access it via network neighbourhood...?? Anyone know if this is possible??? Very possible: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2225 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator.
That works Fantastically... I have just tested it.. great stuff.. Mandrake should make that part of the default install.. very very handy. I just printed a PDF from an old win3.1 flowchart program that i have not gotten around to upgrading yet.. (ABC flowchart).. worked great. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2002 11:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator. On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Franki wrote: Does anyone know how I can setup a pdf printer on linux machine that would work for windows machines on a lan?? I mean that I want to have a pdf generator setup as a shared printer in cups/samba and have the windows machines be able to print to it??? maybe setup to save the generated pdf file to their home directory so they can access it via network neighbourhood...?? Anyone know if this is possible??? Very possible: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=2225 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Inspiron 8200
Hi Guys, I am choosing my new laptop, and the above laptop is looking pretty good to me.. One thing though, they have swapped vid cards in it.. its now got an ATI Radian 9000 Mobility.. instead of the Geforce4 Go card it used to have.. Now I have two questions... 1. Will I get any 3D acceleration in linux, can I get the GUI working without framebuffer at all?? 2. How does the Radian 9000 M compare with the nvidia?? anyone know? rgds Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Static routes
what is your setup?? I am using static-routes successfully... used netconf to set them up the first time (its part of linuxconf) so I could see the format, then went nuts and added all my own routes manually.. worked great.. if you look in the network startup scripts, you will see where it looks for the static-routes file and loads it if it exists so it does work.. (at least it does on mdk9.0, never used it before that.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alexandre Jacarandá Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 12:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Static routes What happens with the /etc/rc.d/init.d/network script that it don't get the file /etc/sysconfig/static-routes and add routes on linux ? Thanks, --- Alexandre Gonçalves Jacarandá Consultor de Tecnologia de Informação Linux Associates Ltda. Tel.: 0 ** 21 2223-3346 www.linuxassociates.com.br Alguns caminham pelo arco, eu caminho pela reta. -- ___ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] How to set 1 lan card w/ 3 IP addresses
? I am not sure what you mean.. you can't have two private IP's on the same interface as a public one... (why would you want to? private IP's don't work on the internet.. and public IP's are a waste on an internal network.. use NAT..) but if you have three private or three public, then its easy... in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts you will see files like this: ifcfg-eth0 ifcfg-eth1 (one for each network card...) create the file ifcfg-eth0:0 in it, put stuff like this: DEVICE=eth0:0 BOOTPROTO=static IPADDR=192.168.0.5 NETMASK=255.255.255.0 NETWORK=192.168.0.0 BROADCAST=192.168.0.255 ONBOOT=yes edit to suit, then save and restart your network.. eth0 would then have another IP attached to it.. Works for me, I have one linux box with 64 public IP's on it. (webserver) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jorris Graad Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 3:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] How to set 1 lan card w/ 3 IP addresses Hi, Just like the title, I want to make 1 LAN card to have 3 IP addresses, 1 IP is the global one and the others is the private's. Which file should I configure, and please tell me how to configure it..? thanks for advance Ivo. _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] FW: professional server setup...
Thanks for the tips... I think that I'll take it slow to start with.. put in single cpu systems... if the load is to much, I can always swap out the motherboard and CPU and go duals.. just keep the scsi/raid controllers etc... wouldn't be that hard, swap over to smp kernel etc.. I've been given more or less free reign, but if they spend all their money on hardware, I won't get the raise I'm gonna ask for in a few months. :-) I won't know if clustering etc is necessary till I see what the load is on a decent server.. so I'll do the upgrade in steps and see how I go.. As for the design, I have already made up network flowcharts and such completely documenting the lot.. I've added a DMZ for the public servers which was something previously missing and I'm making this network completly segregated into blocks with different IP ranges.. linked by linux routers.. (ie one section 10.0.x.x one 192.168.0.x and one 192.168.1.x each under the care of one of the IT guys.. ) I had some other ideas I am implimenting too.. and a couple of snort box's as well. Its actually gonna be quiet fun to do all of this... The only part I don't like is having a Win2000 box as one of the web servers. (its running Jrun and alot of servlets.. and we can't change it to linux.) so I put it behind a linux box, and port forwarded just the relivant ports. (did that as soon as i was told about the winblows box.) rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Sent: Saturday, 7 December 2002 4:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] FW: professional server setup... Dual processor is the way to go on any machine where reliability is tantamount! As was pointed out in Brent's message, any run-away process will not take down the server if it is dual processor. For web server /mail server, you may want to think about clustering several machines. Also, if you can, try to transition the change over to the new machines. That way you can concentrate on each function (web server, mail server, etc.) and make sure it is right before moving onto the next chunk of your project. Also, take volumious notes; when you make changes to the configuration, comment out the old lines and add the new ones below - that way if you run into unexpected problems, you can adjust the config files easier; print out the config files and keep them in a master notebook for the project, in case of something unexpected cropping up. On Thursday 05 December 2002 07:51 am, you wrote: *** Sent this already, doesn't seem to have arrived so I'm sending it again *** Hi guys, I just got something of a promotion and I've been asked to change the network over to hardware/software/OS over to something more professional. my plans are: - Mandrake Linux on all box's that will take it. (I thought about a unix variant (Solaris specifically), but I'm now more familiar with Linux, and most familiar with Mandrake. plus I decided to support the movement :-) - Rack mount servers with Hotswap SCSI UW harddisks, two per box setup to mirror. (speed not that important, at least initially.) - Digital switch for single monitor/keyboard/mouse per rack tower. - Mail (postfix, amavisd-new, spamassasin), Web (apache extranet), DNS (DynDNS (if I can figure out how to change over from Bind9.x)) servers. - Master router/firewall, preferably hardware, but linux box if easier. must be able to handle NAT and straight routing at the same time on different interfaces. and must be able to handly two NET connections and switch between the two if one goes down. (say for example two ADSL connections, or a T1 and a backup ADSL.) My Questions are: 1. SCSI controllers/drives and hotswap... can linux handle hotswapping? And whats the best controller cards to use? I have heard many a complaint about Adaptec cards and the like.. whats the best supported trouble free card? 2. Hardware router/firewall setup, anyone have any suggetions here??? a box capable of handling multiple connections and offer NAT AND routing to different interfaces on the back of the unit? 3. Whats the best prefab backup system for linux box's??? (don't tell me its tar.. I was hoping for something more inclusive). 4. DYNDNS. I have working BIND9 installs, and I am not used to Dyndns, but the config pages on Bernsteins site read like gibberish to me, I want to edit a config file or two like with BIND.. is there a way of doing that?? 5. Multiple CPU's, I was thinking of using Dual AMD CPU's on the mail and web servers.. the mail and web will be doing all the mail and sites for about 100 websites and is likely to have some high usage statictics as time goes on.. Is this a good idea or should I just create multiple web/mail servers and configure them via round robin or similiar?? Any hardware tips, suggestions, flames etc about config and stuff from those of you using this stuff would be most appreciated. kindest
[expert] FW: professional server setup...
*** Sent this already, doesn't seem to have arrived so I'm sending it again *** Hi guys, I just got something of a promotion and I've been asked to change the network over to hardware/software/OS over to something more professional. my plans are: - Mandrake Linux on all box's that will take it. (I thought about a unix variant (Solaris specifically), but I'm now more familiar with Linux, and most familiar with Mandrake. plus I decided to support the movement :-) - Rack mount servers with Hotswap SCSI UW harddisks, two per box setup to mirror. (speed not that important, at least initially.) - Digital switch for single monitor/keyboard/mouse per rack tower. - Mail (postfix, amavisd-new, spamassasin), Web (apache extranet), DNS (DynDNS (if I can figure out how to change over from Bind9.x)) servers. - Master router/firewall, preferably hardware, but linux box if easier. must be able to handle NAT and straight routing at the same time on different interfaces. and must be able to handly two NET connections and switch between the two if one goes down. (say for example two ADSL connections, or a T1 and a backup ADSL.) My Questions are: 1. SCSI controllers/drives and hotswap... can linux handle hotswapping? And whats the best controller cards to use? I have heard many a complaint about Adaptec cards and the like.. whats the best supported trouble free card? 2. Hardware router/firewall setup, anyone have any suggetions here??? a box capable of handling multiple connections and offer NAT AND routing to different interfaces on the back of the unit? 3. Whats the best prefab backup system for linux box's??? (don't tell me its tar.. I was hoping for something more inclusive). 4. DYNDNS. I have working BIND9 installs, and I am not used to Dyndns, but the config pages on Bernsteins site read like gibberish to me, I want to edit a config file or two like with BIND.. is there a way of doing that?? 5. Multiple CPU's, I was thinking of using Dual AMD CPU's on the mail and web servers.. the mail and web will be doing all the mail and sites for about 100 websites and is likely to have some high usage statictics as time goes on.. Is this a good idea or should I just create multiple web/mail servers and configure them via round robin or similiar?? Any hardware tips, suggestions, flames etc about config and stuff from those of you using this stuff would be most appreciated. kindest regards Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] FW: professional server setup...
Thanks Vincent,
Yes, I did mean djbdns.. it was a mind typo :-)
I'll try your rpms on a test bench and swap over from bind once I understand
it properly.
and thankyou to everyone else that offered suggestions..
I have saved them all and will give them alot of thought over the next week
or two..
One benefit of this, they are relying on my to make all the decisions.. they
don't know Cisco
from a bar of soap, (they are predominantly bean counters :-) so I get total
control over everything..
Its great...
So presently, I am looking at the following:
1. Hardware Raid (mirror)
2. Single AMD 2400XP cpus (decided to just add more servers when the load
gets up.) the webserver serves about 50/50 static HTML and perl scripts..
(some mod perl) so it need atleast abit of grunt.
3. Standard 1 gig ram on all machines.
I don't know yet about suitable hardware raid setups or hotswappable issues,
so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd love to hear them.
rgds
Frank
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vincent Danen
Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 2:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] FW: professional server setup...
On Thursday, December 5, 2002, at 05:51 AM, Franki wrote:
[...]
4. DYNDNS. I have working BIND9 installs, and I am not used to Dyndns,
but
the config pages on Bernsteins site read like gibberish to me, I want
to
edit a config file or two like with BIND.. is there a way of doing
that??
You're talking about DYNDNS then you mention djb. Which DNS software
are you looking at? djbdns?
And yes, you can. The data file is the master file. You can have
multiple files and then in the make process you can cat them to the
master file.
For instance, I have things like zone-linsec.ca, zone-danen.net,
zone-freezer-burn.org and each contains data for the domain. Then I
modified the Makefile so that I could issue a make build that
basically cats each zone-* file to a temporary file, sorts it, and then
calls make to build the cdb file.
IIRC, my djbdns rpms for Mandrake illustrate the same thing (I believe
I modified the Makefile to have the make build capability).
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RE: [expert] Anyone know what's up with rpmfind.net?
I got that problem with rpmhelp when I tried to get the mdk9.0 colortail rpm... page cannot be found... never had a problem with rpmfind.. have you tried fr.rpmfind.net ?? or one of the other mirrors? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Guntner Sent: Friday, 6 December 2002 6:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Anyone know what's up with rpmfind.net? rpmfind.net is listing packages, but when you click on any of them, you get a page doesn't exist on this server type of message. It seems that it's not just Mandrake packages that this is happening with, either. Anyone know what's going on over there? --Dave -- David Guntner GEnie: Just say NO! http://www.akaMail.com/pgpkey/davidg or key server for PGP Public key Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] devfs Issue
The HCF site has a mailing list.. I got many answers there when I had one.. perhaps you should Join.. its very active, the developer was releasing a newer better version every 3 weeks before. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of FRLinux Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 5:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] devfs Issue Hello, I thought i had provided all the necessary info, my mistake ;) here are the precisions : /dev/modem does not get created whatsoever. what is /dev/modem pointing to? also, make sure hsfserial is being loaded... when it is loaded look at your /var/log/messages for devfsd saying it creating a device link... send that output... :) It is not being loaded, furthermore, if i try to load it up manually, here's the output : Dec 3 09:35:22 localhost insmod: Warning: loading /lib/modules/2.4.20-pre8/misc/hsfich.o will taint the kernel: non-GPL license - Copyright (C) 1996-2001 Conexant Systems Inc. All Rights Reserved. Dec 3 09:35:22 localhost insmod: See http://www.tux.org/lkml/#export-tainted for information about tainted modules Dec 3 09:35:22 localhost insmod: Module hsfich loaded, with warnings Dec 3 09:35:22 localhost kernel: hsf_request_port: ComCtrlOpen failed, r=1! I would like to add that the hsfconfig created the following in /etc/modules.conf : alias /dev/ttySHSF* hsfserial alias char-major-240 hsfserial alias /dev/ttyCUA* hsfserial alias char-major-241 hsfserial alias /dev/modem hsfserial options hsfserial serialmajor=240 calloutmajor=241 Steph Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Opps (Cron root@home nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily )
bzcat: ./cancel.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./newaliases.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./mailq.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpr.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpq.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lprm.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lp.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpstat.1.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./aliases.5.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. bzcat: ./lpc.8.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. This is my problem now. I tried to fix the broken symlinks manually after the update commands failed, apparently, I got them wrong.. Does anyone know of a list somewhere on what should point where??? This is s standard postfix/cups mandrake 9.0 install.. regards Frank Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] problems with msec daily
I am gettng that same error, but mine is worse.. bzcat: Can't open input file ./newaliases.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./mailq.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpr.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpq.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lprm.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lp.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./cancel.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpstat.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./aliases.5.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpc.8.bz2: No such file or directory. I tried update-alternatives --auto mta update-alternatives --auto ctags but it didn't even fix the mail symlinks.. and ctags isn't an error for me.. ALL the symlinks in /usr/share/man/man1 are pointing to non existant files in /etc/alternatives and there are quiet a few invalid symlinks in there also.. as an example, the first link: cancel.1.bz2 points to a symlink in /etc/alternatives with the same name.. and that symlink is pointed back to /usr/share/man/man1/cancel-cups.1.bz2 which doesn't exist. I have no idea what to do here,,, any tips? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of H. Narfi Stefansson Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 7:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] problems with msec daily On Sunday 01 December 2002 16:10, Angus Beath wrote: Hi, I've got this error from Cron each day. I'm not sure how to go about fixing it: Subject: Cron root@dunedain nice -n 19 run-parts /etc/cron.daily Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:04:19 -0500 (EST) bzcat: Can't open input file ./newaliases.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./mailq.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./ctags.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./aliases.5.bz2: No such file or directory. Any suggestions? Angus This error message comes from makewhatis. Most likely the symbolic link /usr/share/man/man1/newaliases.1.bz2 points to a location in your file system that does not exist. The following commands fixed this for me: update-alternatives --auto mta update-alternatives --auto ctags What is going on: In order to allow you to have multiple versions of the same program installed, symbolic links to the man pages and the executables are maintained. Take an example from my system: /usr/bin/gcc is a symbolic link to /etc/alternatives/gcc /etc/alternatives/gcc is a symbolic link to /usr/bin/colorgcc-3.2 Then, if I install another version of gcc in /usr/bin, say /usr/bin/gcc-3.1, and I want to access it as /usr/bin/gcc, I would change the link in /etc/alternatives. I.e. I would let /etc/alternatives/gcc point to /usr/bin/gcc-3.1. Regular users (like you and I) never worry about these symbolic links because they are handled automatically when we upgrade and downgrade our rpms. In this case, something went wrong with the symbolic link for these 2 packages and we had to re-run the script that handles these links. If you are curious, you can look at the files in the directory /var/lib/rpm/alternatives as well as man update-alternatives. I hope this helps, Narfi. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] urpmi --auto-select Couple of new questions abouturpmi and installing big apps...
yeah, I imagine that is /var/lib/urpmi and /etc/urpmi will that change anything else??? my machines don't all have the same packages installed and I don't want to mess with the rpm database... is it safe to do this?? rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony S. Sykes Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] urpmi --auto-select Couple of new questions abouturpmi and installing big apps... Frank, No need for scripts, their is a directory you can copy across some of the files and it will update, I did it 3 weeks ago. I think it is /etc/urpmi, I will check tonight when I get home. But you copy the config file and the lists, then do an update. Tony. -Original Message- From: Franki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 7:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] urpmi --auto-select Couple of new questions abouturpmi and installing big apps... I'll have to give some thought to this.. a shell script seems the most likely candidate... its a shame you can't export sources to a shell script from urpmi.. automate the process as it were, that would be handy.. guess it'll probably happen at some stage down the line.. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Sparenberg Sent: Monday, 2 December 2002 5:48 AM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] urpmi --auto-select Couple of new questions abouturpmi and installing big apps... What would be helpful in a case like this is to be able to do what PLF did. (actually I got it from Ranger's site) but somehow a PLF CD was created that you install from as if it was CD1 and it contains PLF's rpms This gets moved into a new category called PLF (duh!) and then it hands off to disc ... continues the install and asks for PLF at the end, Even if it were just possible to redo disk 3 (there is a ton of room on it) You would then have the disks available and could create rpms of data files you need. Just my 2 cents. James On Sun, 2002-12-01 at 10:36, Hoyt Duff wrote: On Sunday 01 December 2002 10:43 am, Franki scribbled in crayon on a yellow legal pad: 1. I have two dozen mdk 9.0 boxes around town.. and I have set most of them up to use the same urpmi sources. But its a time consuming process to do so.. is there some config file or directory that I can copy to the new servers to give them the same sources? (texstar, contrib, plf, updates etc)??? that would be very handy if I could just copy across some files and issue urpmi an update.. Why can't you tar /etc/urpmi and /var/lib/urpmi and install that tarball on each new machine? You could even write a .spec file to create an .rpm with them and install and update all the sources easily -- Hoyt http://www.MaximumHoyt.com/ Fix it until it breaks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- Business Computer Projects - Disclaimer -+-+-+-+-+-+-+- This message, and any associated attachment is confidential. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system, do not use or disclose the information in any way, and notify either Tony S. Sykes or the postmaster mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] immediately. The contents of this message may contain personal views which are not necessarily the views of Business Computer Projects Ltd., unless specifically stated. Whilst every effort has been made to ensure that emails and their attachments are virus free, it is the responsibility of the recipient(s) to verify the integrity of such emails. Business Computer Projects Ltd BCP House 151 Charles Street Stockport Cheshire SK1 3JY Tel: +44 (0)161 355-3000 Fax: +44 (0)161 355-3001 Web: http://www.bcpsoftware.com http://www.bcpsoftware.com/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] Journaled FS Freezes System
I've only used reiserfs and ext3 for any length of time.. both have been exceptionally reliable thus far.. although i have settled on ext3 for everything nowdays.. I have not used a 2940 with them before though.. Were I you, I'd be trying to find out what caused the kernel panic.. a driver conflict seems likely... rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Albert E. Whale Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 12:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] Journaled FS Freezes System I have received Kernel Panics and Mangled Filesystems from using the ext3 filesystem on Adaptec 2940 Controllers. I would like to know three things: 1. Is anyone else having Reliability issues with the Journaled Filesystems? 2. Which Journaled Filesystems can I Reliably use on an Internet Server? Are any of them Production ready yet? 3. What journalling FS are you using and can you recommend? -- Albert E. Whale - CISSP http://www.abs-comptech.com -- ABS Computer Technology, Inc. - ESM, Computer Networking Specialists Sr. Security, Network, and Systems Consultant Board of Directors - InfraGard - Pittsburgh, PA Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] problems with msec daily
Hi all, I ended up getting it working, but the commands people suggested had no noticable effect.. I had to edit the symlinks by hand to get them to work.. most of the problem seems to be that mandrake added -cups to the links, when the file to link to was a link to a cups util, but the link name itself did not have -cups in it... same with the mail stuff and -postfix etc etc... This was a dead standard install (not upgrade) of mdk9.0, so I don't know what the deal is with that.. Still, its fixed now, just hope I don't have to do that with all the installs. rgds Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Wohlfarth Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 3:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] problems with msec daily On Mon, 2002-12-02 at 03:16, Franki wrote: I am gettng that same error, but mine is worse.. bzcat: Can't open input file ./newaliases.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./mailq.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpr.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpq.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lprm.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lp.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./cancel.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpstat.1.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./aliases.5.bz2: No such file or directory. bzcat: Can't open input file ./lpc.8.bz2: No such file or directory. I was having the same trouble. Try these commands: update-alternatives --auto lp update-alternatives --auto lpr update-alternatives --auto lpstat update-alternatives --auto cancel update-alternatives --auto lprm update-alternatives --auto lpq update-alternatives --auto mta_newaliases update-alternatives --auto mta_mailq update-alternatives --auto mta_aliasesman The complete list of possible links is in /etc/alternatives. -- Robert Wohlfarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? -- Matthew 6:25b Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] urpmi says everything already installed
Have a look on the mandrake errata at linux-mandrake.com There is something about this problem in there, with a solution... rgds Franki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Wohlfarth Sent: Tuesday, 3 December 2002 12:57 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] urpmi says everything already installed There's something wrong (I think) when I try to install packages from the installation CD's. Here's a brief history of what's happening. Can anyone point me in the right direction to go next? Running Mandrake 9.0, Mandrake Control Center, Install Software. None of the packages have check marks, even ones that I know are installed. I check one or more and click the Install button. A dialog box appears saying Everything is already installed (that's not supposed to happen is it). 'rpm -q' from the command line says the checked packages are not installed. If I use 'urpmi' from the command line, it says it can't find the sources. 'urpmi -v' shows the command searching the database for all of the CD's, but still ends by saying it can't find the sources. I ran 'rpm --rebuilddb', and it made no difference. Besides, 'rpm' seems to report the correct information (package installed or not installed). 'urpmi' recognizes the package name, even asking about loading dependencies. I tried searching the mail list archives and Google. Nothing appeared to match this problem. 'man urpmi' hasn't shed any light on the problem (of course that may be a problem my reading comprehension :) This all started because I was trying to use a joystick. Stumbled upon the packages 'libjsw1' and 'libjsw1-calibrator'. The 'gameport' kernel module is already loaded. And I hoped those packages would let me access the joystick. But I kept running into these problems trying to load the packages. All help is appreciated. -- Robert Wohlfarth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? -- Matthew 6:25b Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
