[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread guyfawkes91
I was getting worried that I might have to jump in and explain the
joke. It's never a good sign if you have to explain your jokes to the
audience.

As for the rest of it, I'll just leave the gossip grapevine to fill
everyone in. 



 But Angela has a point. Didn't you guys ever
 see Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Here is
 the scene in question:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
   
Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich.
   
   Uh, toots, the POV that Angela was questioning was
   the purest sarcasm. Both you and she missed it.
   
   Lighten up, hey?
  
  Oh, it was pure sarcasm alright sweet-cheeks.
  
  sarcasm 
  ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late
  Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein
  `tear flesh,' in late Greek `gnash the teeth, speak 
  bitterly' (from sarx, sark- `flesh' ).
  
  ...'gnash teeth...'tear flesh...speak bitterly..yes,
  your sarcasm is the purest, and noticed in the first place.
  Nice and light.
  Re-cueing the tunes:
  Because a vision softly creeping,
  Left its seeds while I was sleeping...
 
 Translation: Ooopsie, I really put my foot in it,
 didn't I? Let's see now, how will I recoup? I know!
 I'll give the etymology of sarcasm and pretend I
 saw it all along! Nobody will ever notice that my
 comment to Angela doesn't quite fit that scenario.
 Will they? I mean, jeez, it's really crucial that
 I bash Judy here to distract folks from Barry's
 embarrassing hypocrisy, but I don't want to look
 like a hypocrite myself... I dunno, but it's the
 best I can come up with.

Oh, I think everyone understands perfectly,
Jude. What's really crucial to you is 
bashing Barry. This post marks the 100th
such bash since I said I wasn't going to
be sucked into any more of your arguments
again. And I haven't been. 

You, on the other hand, have gone more than
a little crazy, desperately scheming to find
some comment -- anything -- that will get me
to argue with you again. Won't work, honey.
It really isn't entertaining to argue with
someone you pity, and I'm really big on 
entertainment value these days. You have
none. You're a one-trick pony, and most of
us got tired of the trick years ago.

I did notice that you *still* haven't man-
aged to post anything positive, however. How 
many months is it now that that's been going 
on? I think Tom's got a good point...if you
cannot help but come back from several
days off from FFL *still* full of anger 
and bitterness and old grudges, what DO you 
dream about?

Could it be...SATAN?  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You ain't seen nuthin yet dude. Wait till she starts her 
 race baiting, it gets really interesting then. She just 
 don't like the uppity ones. Best to put on a garland of 
 garlic and read other posts. I've been wanting to ask 
 TurquoiseB  if it is possible that he was a Jesuit exorcist 
 before the Tibetan thang. I bet those dudes could wield
 a wooden stake. 

They were better with fires. :-) And it was the
Dominicans who tended to burn heretics, not the
Jesuits so much. 

But in all seriousness, if there were a way to
actually determine whether it was true or not,
my money would be on Judy having spent several
lifetimes as an Inquisitor, rather than a victim
of their...uh...holy services.

Look at the tactics. Feeling threatened by anyone
who disputes the holy dogma, whether it be the Book
Of Maharishi or the Book Of Hillary. An intense 
need to *discredit* the heretic in the eyes of 
others. The need to get them to confess their
sins. The tactics of language used.

It's all straight out of Bernardo Gui's 1323 Practica 
Inquisitionis Heretice Pravitatis (Conduct of the 
Inquisition into Heretical Wickedness). If you want 
a slap-your-forehead moment of realization, scour 
the Web and read a few excerpts from it, and then 
compare the techniques being taught to those regularly 
practiced by one Judith Stein. Here's one:

  Indeed it is all too difficult to get the
  heretics to reveal themselves when they hide
  their errors, instead of frankly confessing
  them, or when reliable and adequate testimony
  against them is lacking. In such a case all
  kinds of problems confront the Inquisitor...
  Laymen of staunch faith find it a scandalous
  matter if an inquisitorial trial, once begun,
  is abandoned for some kind of lack of method.
  When they see the learned thus deceived by
  common and vile persons, the faith of the
  Faithful is to some degree weakened; for they
  believe that we have at our disposal luminous
  and certain arguments that cannot be refuted,
  and that they expect us to be able to vanquish
  [the heretics] in such a way that even a layman
  can clearly follow the arguments. 

Here's another, a dialogue dreamed up in his
head by a madman, and proposed to others as an 
example of how one embarrasses and destroys a 
heretic with language. Read through it and see 
if it doesn't sound a tad familiar:

http://www.cathar.info/121207_guiwaldensians.htm

I suspect such dialogues go through Judy's head
pretty much every moment that she is unable to
post on Fairfield Life. That's why she has so many
of them stored up when she reappears.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rick, 
 
 nice discussion.
 Good points raised.
 
 But really:
 Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
 And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.
 
 So the guy sending this blame against
 Raja Emanuel definitely has something
 against him.

I doubt he has anything against him Joerg, GF just has
a sense of humour about your hilarious costumes, I'm sure
if you could take a step back and see all this raja
bullshit for what it is you would be laughing too.

My question to you Joerg is, why are you reading FFL? Is 
monitoring this site something done by international 
regularly? If so, why? 

I'm hoping it's just because you like hearing about peoples
success on different spiritual paths, enjoy different 
opinions and find healthy open debate refreshing. I'd hate
to think the TMO was so cultish it felt it had to monitor
potential dissent. Do let us know.

 
 It would be nice to ask this Guy Fawkes to
 identify himself and state his real intentions...


I can't speak for him but I'm pretty sure his intention
is to make us laugh. Mission accomplished in that respect.


 In Germany, blaming s.o. for working for the
 secret service against good intentions of a group
 is really serious damage. That was intended with this
 post.
 
 If someone like a politician would have thrown such an insult,
 and didn`t have any proof, he would loose his job right away...
 
 cheers
 
 joerg.
 
 
 
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread guyfawkes91
More posts like yours please, this group needs to lighten up, it gets
too heavy too easily.

There's a lot of untapped comic potential in the TMO and there are
hundreds of people out there who are desperate for a laugh but are
scared of what might happen to them or their kids if they tell their
own jokes. They lie awake at night terrified John Konhaus might come
after them with his lovingly polished thumb screws because they let
slip to someone over lunch that at heart they aren't extreme enough. 

People live in fear and they need something to relieve the tension. We
have to make up jokes for them. It's a case of having an ample supply
of raw materials and a good demand for the finished product. 

Enjoy



 You forgot to mention that Professor Van Dyke of Amsterdam is the 
 brother of Dick Van Dyke, who played the nutty professor in Chitty 
 Chitty Bang Bang, and the Old Excentric Grandfather in that movie is 
 the father of his illigitimate child David Lynch, who's 
 character Giacommetti in Twin Peaks was based on a real character 
 who was in the CIA and a fanatic member of Scientology, which was 
 founded by a rebel FreeMason who idolised Aleister Crowley.
 
 The plot thickens
 
 OffWorld




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Peter

--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rick, 
 
 nice discussion.
 Good points raised.
 
 But really:
 Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
 And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.
 
 So the guy sending this blame against
 Raja Emanuel definitely has something
 against him.
 
 It would be nice to ask this Guy Fawkes to
 identify himself and state his real intentions...
 
 In Germany, blaming s.o. for working for the
 secret service against good intentions of a group
 is really serious damage. That was intended with
 this
 post.
 
 If someone like a politician would have thrown such
 an insult,
 and didn`t have any proof, he would loose his job
 right away...
 
 cheers
 
 joerg.

Dear Joerg,
 Please loosen your teutonic uptightness. This is
a joke; a funny; a who-ha. Don't they have those in
Deutschland? Are we going to have to wage war with you
again? (that comment is a joke). Just thought of a
great Monty Python skit. Concentration camp for
humor-lacking Germans. Camp guarded by tiny poodles,
guards in clown outfits, but commandant and staff has
that hyper-serious teutonic attitude. You will
develop a sense of humor or die trying  But German
prisoners just don't get it.   





 
 
 
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Hi Rick, 
  
  nice discussion.
  Good points raised.
  
  But really:
  Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
  And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.
  
  So the guy sending this blame against
  Raja Emanuel definitely has something
  against him.
 
 I doubt he has anything against him Joerg, GF just has
 a sense of humour about your hilarious costumes, I'm sure
 if you could take a step back and see all this raja
 bullshit for what it is you would be laughing too.
 
 My question to you Joerg is, why are you reading FFL? Is 
 monitoring this site something done by international 
 regularly? If so, why? 

More important, why does he so desperately
want to know guyfawkes' real identity?

Could it possibly be that, as GF suggested
about Raja Emanuel wanting to finish Hitler's
work, Joergie-boy has some *retribution* in mind 
for GF? Possibly a camp somewhere, or legal action, 
or at the very least being banned for life from
TM functions. (Not that the latter is likely
to bother GF, whoever he is.)

Can't have people poking fun at our leaders,
after all. Must punish.

THAT mindset is why satires like this one are so
necessary. THAT is what is wrong with the TM 
movement.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 
 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Rick, 
  
  nice discussion.
  Good points raised.
  
  But really:
  Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
  And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.
  
  So the guy sending this blame against
  Raja Emanuel definitely has something
  against him.
  
  It would be nice to ask this Guy Fawkes to
  identify himself and state his real intentions...
  
  In Germany, blaming s.o. for working for the
  secret service against good intentions of a group
  is really serious damage. That was intended with
  this
  post.
  
  If someone like a politician would have thrown such
  an insult,
  and didn`t have any proof, he would loose his job
  right away...
  
  cheers
  
  joerg.
 
 Dear Joerg,
  Please loosen your teutonic uptightness. This is
 a joke; a funny; a who-ha. Don't they have those in
 Deutschland? Are we going to have to wage war with you
 again? (that comment is a joke). Just thought of a
 great Monty Python skit. Concentration camp for
 humor-lacking Germans. Camp guarded by tiny poodles,
 guards in clown outfits, but commandant and staff has
 that hyper-serious teutonic attitude. You will
 develop a sense of humor or die trying  But German
 prisoners just don't get it.   
 

No Pete, whatever you do don't mention the war!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7U-_tJVmwfeature=related

I did once but I think I got away with it.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Vaj


On May 4, 2008, at 2:10 AM, hugheshugo wrote:


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick

And from the very same sentence:

at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
and retain and expand my New Age values


The paradox of Brahman!

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Rick Archer
Höjööh Rick,

my friend Peter from Sweden solved it for me:
You can post that , if you like 

In my world there is a lot of people, each having their own view of what's
going on. I think it's built in, that we all have different opinions and
ideas. Of course someone thinks this or that, and some do anything to catch
others attention. Many people share common thoughts or beliefs, for instance
someone is after me / someone wants to harm me. The government is them
or they. Or the communists. Or, if it's a WW2-movie, they are the
Germans.

 

Of course the TM-guy is from secret service. It's an upsetting thought
confirming what you already know - the world is a conspiracy against you!
Therefore you don't need any proof, it's already proven.

 

And you are from Sweden. Without doubt. That's why you can't levitate.
Everyone knows Swedes can't levitate. So that's the truth!

 

When my kids came home from school, being upset with some class-mate that
said this or that, I used to ask them OK, but what do you feel is the
thuth?. Then they looked inside and delivered an answer, upon which I said
Then you know what is true. Let the others say whatever they say, that's
their freedom. They can't take away what you feel inside.

 

By the way, did you know Bush is an alien?

 

;-)

 

 

Med vänliga hälsningar
Peter...

 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 4, 2008, at 2:10 AM, hugheshugo wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
 
 
  go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
 
  And from the very same sentence:
 
  at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
  and retain and expand my New Age values
 
 The paradox of Brahman!


Boy, you found that post quick. 
 
I do find contradictions like that funny hence the clip from
Fawlty Towers where the humour is derived from English uptightness 
and nothing else, Basil had a brain injury you see and... ah well 
maybe it was in poor taste... 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Vaj


On May 5, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

And you are from Sweden. Without doubt. That's why you can't  
levitate. Everyone knows Swedes can't levitate. So that's the truth!


That's why they have reindeer silly.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Angela Mailander
You're right--jokes and ironies need significant
linguistic or contextual signals that can easily be
pointed to.  If you haven't really done that and then
claim afterwards that we were all supposed to have
gotten it, or we're more stupefied than you are,
you'll come off as lame, disingenuous and
mean-spirited.  But you did build in enough signals
for anyone, with the possible exception of Germans and
Swedes, to get it.  


--- guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I was getting worried that I might have to jump in
 and explain the
 joke. It's never a good sign if you have to explain
 your jokes to the
 audience.
 
 As for the rest of it, I'll just leave the gossip
 grapevine to fill
 everyone in. 
 
 
 
  But Angela has a point. Didn't you guys ever
  see Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Here is
  the scene in question:
  
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
 
 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Oh, I think everyone understands perfectly,
 Jude. What's really crucial to you is 
 bashing Barry. This post marks the 100th
 such bash since I said I wasn't going to
 be sucked into any more of your arguments
 again. And I haven't been.

Sez Barry, getting sucked in again, as he has
been repeatedly since he claimed he wasn't
going to be.

(Does he really *count* the number of times
I've bashed him?? That's really pretty amazing.)

But see, the bash here wasn't really anything
you *could* have argued with:

  Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
  any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
  just had to comment on the above.
 
 Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
 inability to control himself.

When you try to bash somebody for something you
openly admit to just having done yourself, you
invite mockery, and you leave yourself with no
argument.
 
 You, on the other hand, have gone more than
 a little crazy, desperately scheming to find
 some comment -- anything -- that will get me
 to argue with you again.

That wasn't my intention, as noted. But what
you're doing now just reinforces my original
point as to your inability to control yourself,
and your consequent hypocrisy in bashing Edg
for the same purported lack.

Plus which, there's no need for me to 
desperately scheme to find things to bash
you about. I mean, you just handed me one!
(I'm not sure desperately scheme to find
even makes sense semantically, but we'll
let that go for now.)

You've been getting off easy the last 
couple of weeks because I've been more
interested in political discussions with
folks who at least know a *little* about
what's going on (your ignorance on that
score is just too massive to bother with).

snip
 I did notice that you *still* haven't man-
 aged to post anything positive, however.

What is this preoccupation with positivity,
Barry? Seems as though it's some weird 
hangover from your TM TB days. It isn't one
I share, sorry.

Just out of curiosity, though, what do you
think is the proper balance? I ask because, of
the 14 posts you've made so far this posting
period, 13 have been negative. What ratio
should one strive for, would you say?

 How many months is it now that that's been
 going on?

The only week in which I've made only negative
posts was last week, actually.

 I think Tom's got a good point...if you
 cannot help but come back from several
 days off from FFL *still* full of anger 
 and bitterness and old grudges, what DO you 
 dream about?

Actually, how I feel when I come back depends
entirely on what I find here when I do. (What
any of it has to do with dreams, I'm not sure.)





 
 Could it be...SATAN?  :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread hermandan0
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I once tried to run a contest in a newsletter, offering MAPI products
for the best answer to the question How many TMers does it take to
screw in a lightbulb? but the center chair edited it out of the final
version as not being dignified. Or maybe he was afraid the answers
wouldn't be dignified.

Maybe some FFL folks would like to play. How about:

- We don't try to answer such questions; that would be analyzing the
darkness.

- TMers screw?

- One in a hundred, or if it's a Siddha, the square root of one?

Everyone is welcome to enter, but the prizewinner will be of the male
persuasion so he can assume the title of Joe King for a day (aka Raja
Joe) and dress in drag while wearing a crown made from a cut-up cereal
box.

 More posts like yours please, this group needs to lighten up, it gets
 too heavy too easily.
 
 There's a lot of untapped comic potential in the TMO and there are
 hundreds of people out there who are desperate for a laugh but are
 scared of what might happen to them or their kids if they tell their
 own jokes. They lie awake at night terrified John Konhaus might come
 after them with his lovingly polished thumb screws because they let
 slip to someone over lunch that at heart they aren't extreme enough. 
 
 People live in fear and they need something to relieve the tension. We
 have to make up jokes for them. It's a case of having an ample supply
 of raw materials and a good demand for the finished product. 
 
 Enjoy
 
 
 
  You forgot to mention that Professor Van Dyke of Amsterdam is the 
  brother of Dick Van Dyke, who played the nutty professor in Chitty 
  Chitty Bang Bang, and the Old Excentric Grandfather in that movie is 
  the father of his illigitimate child David Lynch, who's 
  character Giacommetti in Twin Peaks was based on a real character 
  who was in the CIA and a fanatic member of Scientology, which was 
  founded by a rebel FreeMason who idolised Aleister Crowley.
  
  The plot thickens
  
  OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@
 wrote:
 
 I once tried to run a contest in a newsletter, offering MAPI 
products
 for the best answer to the question How many TMers does it take to
 screw in a lightbulb? but the center chair edited it out of the 
final
 version as not being dignified. Or maybe he was afraid the answers
 wouldn't be dignified.
 
 Maybe some FFL folks would like to play. How about:
 
 - We don't try to answer such questions; that would be analyzing the
 darkness.
 
 - TMers screw?
 
 - One in a hundred, or if it's a Siddha, the square root of one?


7000 or the world stays in darkness.



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Rick Archer
 

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of hermandan0
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:30 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as
government agent

 

--- In HYPERLINK
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

I once tried to run a contest in a newsletter, offering MAPI products
for the best answer to the question How many TMers does it take to
screw in a lightbulb? but the center chair edited it out of the final
version as not being dignified. Or maybe he was afraid the answers
wouldn't be dignified.

Maybe some FFL folks would like to play. 

There used to be a bunch of answers to that question, such as

I’m not supposed to tell you, but…

Don’t know, can’t say.

 

Can’t remember the rest, but others can chime in.


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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Peter
Angela, didn't the reference to being turned into a
newt trigger your funny bone meter?


--- Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You're right--jokes and ironies need significant
 linguistic or contextual signals that can easily be
 pointed to.  If you haven't really done that and
 then
 claim afterwards that we were all supposed to have
 gotten it, or we're more stupefied than you are,
 you'll come off as lame, disingenuous and
 mean-spirited.  But you did build in enough signals
 for anyone, with the possible exception of Germans
 and
 Swedes, to get it.  
 
 
 --- guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I was getting worried that I might have to jump in
  and explain the
  joke. It's never a good sign if you have to
 explain
  your jokes to the
  audience.
  
  As for the rest of it, I'll just leave the gossip
  grapevine to fill
  everyone in. 
  
  
  
   But Angela has a point. Didn't you guys ever
   see Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Here is
   the scene in question:
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
  
  
  
 
 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Peter

--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
 
 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of hermandan0
 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 9:30 AM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja
 Schiffgens identified as
 government agent
 
  
 
 --- In HYPERLINK

mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.comFairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 I once tried to run a contest in a newsletter,
 offering MAPI products
 for the best answer to the question How many TMers
 does it take to
 screw in a lightbulb? but the center chair edited
 it out of the final
 version as not being dignified. Or maybe he was
 afraid the answers
 wouldn't be dignified.
 
 Maybe some FFL folks would like to play. 
 
 There used to be a bunch of answers to that
 question, such as
 
 I’m not supposed to tell you, but…
 
 Don’t know, can’t say.
 
  
 
 Can’t remember the rest, but others can chime in.

An Initiator told me...

Maharishi says

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Peter

--- hugheshugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  
  --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hi Rick, 
   
   nice discussion.
   Good points raised.
   
   But really:
   Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
   And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.
   
   So the guy sending this blame against
   Raja Emanuel definitely has something
   against him.
   
   It would be nice to ask this Guy Fawkes to
   identify himself and state his real
 intentions...
   
   In Germany, blaming s.o. for working for the
   secret service against good intentions of a
 group
   is really serious damage. That was intended with
   this
   post.
   
   If someone like a politician would have thrown
 such
   an insult,
   and didn`t have any proof, he would loose his
 job
   right away...
   
   cheers
   
   joerg.
  
  Dear Joerg,
   Please loosen your teutonic uptightness. This
 is
  a joke; a funny; a who-ha. Don't they have those
 in
  Deutschland? Are we going to have to wage war with
 you
  again? (that comment is a joke). Just thought of a
  great Monty Python skit. Concentration camp for
  humor-lacking Germans. Camp guarded by tiny
 poodles,
  guards in clown outfits, but commandant and staff
 has
  that hyper-serious teutonic attitude. You will
  develop a sense of humor or die trying  But
 German
  prisoners just don't get it.   
  
 
 No Pete, whatever you do don't mention the war!!
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k7U-_tJVmwfeature=related
 
 I did once but I think I got away with it.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread curtisdeltablues
How many TMers  does it take to  screw in a lightbulb? 

Just one, but then they have to lie down for ten minutes before
talking your ear off about their experience. 


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  Schiffgens identified as
  government agent
  
   
  
  --- In HYPERLINK
 
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  guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@
  wrote:
  
  I once tried to run a contest in a newsletter,
  offering MAPI products
  for the best answer to the question How many TMers
  does it take to
  screw in a lightbulb? but the center chair edited
  it out of the final
  version as not being dignified. Or maybe he was
  afraid the answers
  wouldn't be dignified.
  
  Maybe some FFL folks would like to play. 
  
  There used to be a bunch of answers to that
  question, such as
  
  I'm not supposed to tell you, but…
  
  Don't know, can't say.
  
   
  
  Can't remember the rest, but others can chime in.
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How many TMers does it take to screw in a lightbulb? 

It's never happened. 

First they were too busy coming up with excuses 
for why no one has ever flown yet to change
the light bulb.

And then someone realized that the world is too
dark right now for flying to fully manifest was 
the best excuse yet, so they've been sitting in 
the dark ever since.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 4, 2008, at 2:10 AM, hugheshugo wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ 
wrote:
 
 
 
 
  go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
 
  And from the very same sentence:
 
  at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
  and retain and expand my New Age values
 
 The paradox of Brahman!

LOL- Perfect call Vaj! The ocean in a drop and all that... I 
absolutely enjoy this polarized perfection.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Hugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
 
  
  On May 4, 2008, at 2:10 AM, hugheshugo wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ 
 wrote:
  
  
  
  
   go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
  
   And from the very same sentence:
  
   at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
   and retain and expand my New Age values
  
  The paradox of Brahman!
 
 LOL- Perfect call Vaj! The ocean in a drop and all that... I 
 absolutely enjoy this polarized perfection.


I'm just glad I've never claimed any enlightened values,
I'd really hate to be feeling like a hypocrite right now.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Angela Mailander
Of course it did.  I was being duped until I got to
the newt.


--- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Angela, didn't the reference to being turned into a
 newt trigger your funny bone meter?
 
 
 --- Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You're right--jokes and ironies need significant
  linguistic or contextual signals that can easily
 be
  pointed to.  If you haven't really done that and
  then
  claim afterwards that we were all supposed to have
  gotten it, or we're more stupefied than you are,
  you'll come off as lame, disingenuous and
  mean-spirited.  But you did build in enough
 signals
  for anyone, with the possible exception of Germans
  and
  Swedes, to get it.  
  
  
  --- guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I was getting worried that I might have to jump
 in
   and explain the
   joke. It's never a good sign if you have to
  explain
   your jokes to the
   audience.
   
   As for the rest of it, I'll just leave the
 gossip
   grapevine to fill
   everyone in. 
   
   
   
But Angela has a point. Didn't you guys ever
see Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Here is
the scene in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU
   
   
   
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How many TMers  does it take to  screw in a lightbulb? 

None...MMY sez do nothing and accomplish everything...

One...the rest ran away from the snake...

How many ex-TMers does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

None, they'd rather sit and curse the darkness 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 5, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Peter wrote:


Angela, didn't the reference to being turned into a
newt trigger your funny bone meter?


Angela's from Germany, Peter.  They do things like
that over there all the time.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
   wrote:
   
   
sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow 
  anti-TM 
crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for 
joerg, who is Swedish,
   
   Really? That feels like a German Björn (b-yoern) or Börje (boer-yeh)
   to me...  :D
  
  Nah, it is from George as in, George and the Dragon. George comes from 
  Gheshowa which is from Jeshowa (Joshua, Jeshau, Jesus) which is from 
  JeShiwa, which is why Shiva stands on the demon-dog thingy in his dance 
  of Shiva, and St. George slays the Dragon in this ancient celtic 
  remnant of the slaying of ignorance concept embodied in the Dance of 
  Shiva statues.
  
  OffWorld
 
 
 How about a gay couple Jean-Luc and Franco from 
 Manchester?

Piss off. You never even gave me the kudos yet for helping you to understand 
your 
levitation and evolution translation better. Stop posting pseudo-scholarly 
posts until I 
have received the kudos you owe me. You can mail the kudos you owe me to my 
street 
address and make sure you include the bonus salutations and venerations I 
should get for 
your insulting Swedishistic response.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-05 Thread sandiego108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Hugo [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sandiego108 sandiego108@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
  
   
   On May 4, 2008, at 2:10 AM, hugheshugo wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ 
  wrote:
   
   
   
   
go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
   
And from the very same sentence:
   
at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
and retain and expand my New Age values
   
   The paradox of Brahman!
  
  LOL- Perfect call Vaj! The ocean in a drop and all that... I 
  absolutely enjoy this polarized perfection.
 
 
 I'm just glad I've never claimed any enlightened values,
 I'd really hate to be feeling like a hypocrite right now.

How many ten foot poles does it take to screw in a light bulb?



[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick

And from the very same sentence:

at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
and retain and expand my New Age values 

Love it.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You mean the newt wasn't a dead give-away?


Guess not. For me the tip-off was in the first
sentence: a small cult based in Holland. 
The reality of that statement was perfectly 
calculated to push the buttons of TM TBs, and
stopped me in my tracks. Then I looked up at
who had sent it, and smiled, knowing that I
was in for another guyfawkes day creation.

But Angela has a point. Didn't you guys ever
see Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Here is
the scene in question:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yp_l5ntikaU

All this talk about Reuters sounds like sour
grapes to me, from folks who got stung because
part of the TMO or not any more, part of them
still wants to believe that they were so impor-
tant that governmental agencies wanted to spy
on them. Not to mention do things to screw up
their grand plans for the world, as if they
weren't completely capable of doing that 
themselves.

As the witch herself says at the end of the
Monty Python scene, It's a fair cop.  :-)


 --- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is
  painfully obvious
  that we've been duped just enough to make the
  thing real to TMers
  and grab them only to then dump them into their own
  pile of steaming
  assumptions.
  
  On April Fool's Day, this would have fooled no one,
  right?
  
  I think satire has the right to use some dirty
  tricks like misusing
  Reuters' name, but yeah, the writer is flirting with
  slander. 
  
  It was uncomfortable as a gotcha for me, because,
  well, I was done
  got for a few sentences and had had my blood
  chemicals change with a
  rush of what on Earth can the movement do about
  this scandal?  So my
  anti-TMO emotions were triggered, and I was
  petardized.
  
  I didn't like it, but I bow to the achievement.
  
  Edg
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister
  no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John
  jr_esq@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
  guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ 
wrote:

 Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff
  reporter. 
   
   IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news
  agency
   in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters,
  Royters,
   Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch...
   
   
 
 Today a small cult based in Holland founded by
  the Maharishi of
 Beatles fame announced that its leader for
  Germany Raja Emanuel
 Schiffgens has been identified as a government
  agent working for the
  
  
  
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:


 sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow anti-TM 
 crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for 
 joerg, who is Swedish,

Really? That feels like a German Björn (b-yoern) or Börje (boer-yeh)
to me...  :D


 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Duveyoung
Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I know it, and I know that I should apply
mercy and forgiveness to those who are psychologically broken like the
tragic wrecks that you and Off are, but I have my limits -- which I'm
trying to grow out of. I'm figuring another ten years before the likes
of you can be stomached like some Cayjun char on a rack of blackened
ribs -- unhealthy, bitter by itself, but a neat highlight otherwise. 
Until then, you're char, say, about a 55 gallon drum of it. 

I'm not a cheek turner as much as I like the philosophy -- to me,
turning a cheek is like a supreme zen moment -- it'd better be real. 
Faking one's turning of a cheek is, oh let's ballpark it, about ten
zillion times worse than getting triggered beyond one's ability to
retain emotional clarity/balance and then lashing out.

My lashing out is a set of words on message boards -- that's my
sublimation -- I don't drive fast, drink to excess, chew my
fingernails, have insomnia, sic the snow-cops my shit-head neighbor
who never once shoveled his walk in the worse winter of all time in
Madison, WI, watch slasher flicks, lose myself in video games, over
eat, or cheat on my taxes.  And that's merely the beginning of a very
long list of behaviors and morals I mindfully tend.

Whereas you, when a friendly person says you should read a bit more
about astronomy, get defensive and vow to retain your ignorance and
delusions like you've been challenged in a bar fight. 

Edg



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
 
 
 
 go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
 
 And from the very same sentence:
 
 at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
 and retain and expand my New Age values 
 
 Love it.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I know it, and I know that I should 
 apply mercy and forgiveness to those who are psychologically 
 broken like the tragic wrecks that you and Off are...

Not to mention the fact that I intellectually 
understand Ramana Maharshi and you don't and I
know what sin is and you ignorant, immoral 
clods don't. I'm surprised that I even lower
myself to shit upon you from on high, much less
have mercy on you.

 ...but I have my limits -- which I'm trying to grow out of. 

And failing, miserably.

 I'm figuring another ten years before the likes of you can be 
 stomached like some Cayjun char on a rack of blackened ribs -- 
 unhealthy, bitter by itself, but a neat highlight otherwise. 

I'm figuring more like ten lifetimes before you
achieve any semblance of humility and self know-
ledge, dude. At least at the rate you're going.

 Until then, you're char, say, about a 55 gallon drum of it. 

And you, my friend, are the same sized container of 
the effluvia of male bovines. hugheshugo nailed it.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
  
  go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
  
  And from the very same sentence:
  
  at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
  and retain and expand my New Age values 
  
  Love it.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I know it, and I know that I should apply
 mercy and forgiveness to those who are psychologically broken like 
the
 tragic wrecks that you and Off are, but I have my limits -- which 
I'm
 trying to grow out of. I'm figuring another ten years before the 
likes
 of you can be stomached like some Cayjun char on a rack of blackened
 ribs -- unhealthy, bitter by itself, but a neat highlight 
otherwise. 
 Until then, you're char, say, about a 55 gallon drum of it. 
 
 I'm not a cheek turner as much as I like the philosophy -- to me,
 turning a cheek is like a supreme zen moment -- it'd better be 
real. 
 Faking one's turning of a cheek is, oh let's ballpark it, about ten
 zillion times worse than getting triggered beyond one's ability to
 retain emotional clarity/balance and then lashing out.
 
 My lashing out is a set of words on message boards -- that's my
 sublimation -- I don't drive fast, drink to excess, chew my
 fingernails, have insomnia, sic the snow-cops my shit-head neighbor
 who never once shoveled his walk in the worse winter of all time in
 Madison, WI, watch slasher flicks, lose myself in video games, over
 eat, or cheat on my taxes.  And that's merely the beginning of a 
very
 long list of behaviors and morals I mindfully tend.
 
 Whereas you, when a friendly person says you should read a bit more
 about astronomy, get defensive and vow to retain your ignorance and
 delusions like you've been challenged in a bar fight. 
 
 Edg


Psychologically broken and tragic wreck - A tad harsh perhaps!
I only thought it was funny how you could be both refined and
insulting in the same breath.

And you weren't coming over as friendly the other day, you
were coming over as extremely patronising. I doubt you'll
find many who don't get touchy about that. Besides, you 
didn't get it, the thought experiment about blowing the 
universe up was primarily a bit of fun. Honest. I didn't
even think of it, don't take it so seriously.







 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
  
  
  
  
  go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
  
  And from the very same sentence:
  
  at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
  and retain and expand my New Age values 
  
  Love it.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread lurkernomore20002000
All in all, a pretty good soliliquoy. I see this right before 
intermission, deserving a pretty good round of applause.  Really 
sets the stage for act II.


piece of --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I know it, and I know that I should 
apply
  mercy and forgiveness to those who are psychologically broken 
like 
 the
  tragic wrecks that you and Off are, but I have my limits -- 
which 
 I'm
  trying to grow out of. I'm figuring another ten years before the 
 likes
  of you can be stomached like some Cayjun char on a rack of 
blackened
  ribs -- unhealthy, bitter by itself, but a neat highlight 
 otherwise. 
  Until then, you're char, say, about a 55 gallon drum of it. 
  
  I'm not a cheek turner as much as I like the philosophy -- to me,
  turning a cheek is like a supreme zen moment -- it'd better be 
 real. 
  Faking one's turning of a cheek is, oh let's ballpark it, about 
ten
  zillion times worse than getting triggered beyond one's ability 
to
  retain emotional clarity/balance and then lashing out.
  
  My lashing out is a set of words on message boards -- that's my
  sublimation -- I don't drive fast, drink to excess, chew my
  fingernails, have insomnia, sic the snow-cops my shit-head 
neighbor
  who never once shoveled his walk in the worse winter of all time 
in
  Madison, WI, watch slasher flicks, lose myself in video games, 
over
  eat, or cheat on my taxes.  And that's merely the beginning of a 
 very
  long list of behaviors and morals I mindfully tend.
  
  Whereas you, when a friendly person says you should read a bit 
more
  about astronomy, get defensive and vow to retain your ignorance 
and
  delusions like you've been challenged in a bar fight. 
  
  Edg
 
 
 Psychologically broken and tragic wreck - A tad harsh perhaps!
 I only thought it was funny how you could be both refined and
 insulting in the same breath.
 
 And you weren't coming over as friendly the other day, you
 were coming over as extremely patronising. I doubt you'll
 find many who don't get touchy about that. Besides, you 
 didn't get it, the thought experiment about blowing the 
 universe up was primarily a bit of fun. Honest. I didn't
 even think of it, don't take it so seriously.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  richardhughes103@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ 
wrote:
   
   
   
   
   go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
   
   And from the very same sentence:
   
   at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
   and retain and expand my New Age values 
   
   Love it.
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm not a cheek turner as much as I like the philosophy -- to 
 me, turning a cheek is like a supreme zen moment -- it'd better 
 be real. Faking one's turning of a cheek is, oh let's ballpark 
 it, about ten zillion times worse than getting triggered beyond 
 one's ability to retain emotional clarity/balance and then 
 lashing out.

Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
just had to comment on the above.

Have you *ever* read such an ego-bound defense
of bad behavior in your entire life?

In Edgworld, exercising a modicum of control 
over one's emotions is ten zillion times worse
that getting triggered and lashing out.

In other words, what it costs him *to* exercise
some modicum of control over his emotions is
ten zillion times more important in the cosmic
scheme of things than what it costs others to 
endure his lashing out. 

I'm sorry, but this is the mindset of the chronic
abuser, the kind of person who beats his wife and/
or kids and then expects them to forgive him, 
because he was just being himself. They would under-
stand him and why he needs to lash out like this if 
they were just evolved enough.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 4, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Duveyoung wrote:


My lashing out is a set of words on message boards -- that's my
sublimation -- I don't drive fast, drink to excess, chew my
fingernails, have insomnia, sic the snow-cops my shit-head neighbor
who never once shoveled his walk in the worse winter of all time in
Madison, WI, watch slasher flicks, lose myself in video games, over
eat, or cheat on my taxes.  And that's merely the beginning of a very
long list of behaviors and morals I mindfully tend.


Edg, I tell ya, the long list of behaviors and morals you
mindfully tend is enough to make anyone weep.   How
on earth  you exercise such supreme self-control, especially
associating with so many moral lowlifes here on FFL (of
which I am (sob) only just one! And not even the worst!  That
would be Barry. Or Curtis. :))  all the while giving us the
priceless gift of your experience  and wisdom--my god,
how can we ever repay you?



Whereas you, when a friendly person says you should read a bit more
about astronomy, get defensive and vow to retain your ignorance and
delusions like you've been challenged in a bar fight.


How Hugo is able to resist such a  charming offer is
beyond me.  Anyone who doesn't take your friendliness  to heart,
realize how blessed he has been by your advice--no, actually,
simply by your glancing his way for even a moment or two--
is clearly an egocentric twit who doesn't deserve the benefit
of more  said advice.  May Hugo realize the errors of his ways--
as we all should!--and soon, before his soul and ours are
hopelessly lost and not able to attain the glorious heights
to which you are clearly attuned.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread feste37
Your biggest problem is not hypocrisy but your persistent abuse of
other posters on this forum and also your repugnant racism. You
condemn others for racism but seem to think that racism is perfectly
OK as long as it is directed against whites. Below for example is a
snip from your post of a week or so ago (no. 175066). I don't think
that your explanation, My lashing out is a set of words on message
boards is much excuse for this kind of race hatred.


Edg Duveyoung writes: 

Here's the real race card that BigMedia NEVER allows anyone to play: 
that WHITES have proven themselves for over 200 years to be vicious
racists and predators throughout the world.  With this history, if I
were Obama, I'd be saying, Who would trust a white person in this
job?  A white?  You got to be kidding me.  Give a bomb to a white, and
you've got the same situation that a white would say you have if you
get a watermelon near a black person, only in the case of the
watermelon, a goodly portion of blacks will not eat it, while it is
well known that a white will blow up anything as soon as possible.

. . . 

Only a person of color can understand the downtrodden of the world,
because they will have experienced racism first hand.  If you're a
typical white person, you just took offence at the last sentence, but
virtually every non-white person will agree with it.  Barack may never
have poured white paint on himself, but it is absolutely certain that
he was subjected to barbaric racism all his life and knows the pain. 
Only such an education can culture a heart that truly resonates with
the downtrodden.  White folks can merely abstractly resonate, and when
push comes to shove, they vote for the money to go to white companies,
white profiteers, white anything.

Trust a white?  Fuck off. 



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I'm a hypocrite, but I know it, and I know that I should apply
 mercy and forgiveness to those who are psychologically broken like the
 tragic wrecks that you and Off are, but I have my limits -- which I'm
 trying to grow out of. I'm figuring another ten years before the likes
 of you can be stomached like some Cayjun char on a rack of blackened
 ribs -- unhealthy, bitter by itself, but a neat highlight otherwise. 
 Until then, you're char, say, about a 55 gallon drum of it. 
 
 I'm not a cheek turner as much as I like the philosophy -- to me,
 turning a cheek is like a supreme zen moment -- it'd better be real. 
 Faking one's turning of a cheek is, oh let's ballpark it, about ten
 zillion times worse than getting triggered beyond one's ability to
 retain emotional clarity/balance and then lashing out.
 
 My lashing out is a set of words on message boards -- that's my
 sublimation -- I don't drive fast, drink to excess, chew my
 fingernails, have insomnia, sic the snow-cops my shit-head neighbor
 who never once shoveled his walk in the worse winter of all time in
 Madison, WI, watch slasher flicks, lose myself in video games, over
 eat, or cheat on my taxes.  And that's merely the beginning of a very
 long list of behaviors and morals I mindfully tend.
 
 Whereas you, when a friendly person says you should read a bit more
 about astronomy, get defensive and vow to retain your ignorance and
 delusions like you've been challenged in a bar fight. 
 
 Edg
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
 richardhughes103@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
  
  
  
  
  go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick
  
  And from the very same sentence:
  
  at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
  and retain and expand my New Age values 
  
  Love it.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
 Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
 any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
 just had to comment on the above.

Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
inability to control himself.

That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
seconds--is simply no longer operative.




 Have you *ever* read such an ego-bound defense
 of bad behavior in your entire life?
 
 In Edgworld, exercising a modicum of control 
 over one's emotions is ten zillion times worse
 that getting triggered and lashing out.
 
 In other words, what it costs him *to* exercise
 some modicum of control over his emotions is
 ten zillion times more important in the cosmic
 scheme of things than what it costs others to 
 endure his lashing out. 
 
 I'm sorry, but this is the mindset of the chronic
 abuser, the kind of person who beats his wife and/
 or kids and then expects them to forgive him, 
 because he was just being himself. They would under-
 stand him and why he needs to lash out like this if 
 they were just evolved enough.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
 of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
 Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.

And you are positive it is not? 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Angela Mailander
That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.






--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 snip
  Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
  any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
  just had to comment on the above.
 
 Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
 inability to control himself.
 
 That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
 see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
 you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
 seconds--is simply no longer operative.
 
 
 
 
  Have you *ever* read such an ego-bound defense
  of bad behavior in your entire life?
  
  In Edgworld, exercising a modicum of control 
  over one's emotions is ten zillion times worse
  that getting triggered and lashing out.
  
  In other words, what it costs him *to* exercise
  some modicum of control over his emotions is
  ten zillion times more important in the cosmic
  scheme of things than what it costs others to 
  endure his lashing out. 
  
  I'm sorry, but this is the mindset of the chronic
  abuser, the kind of person who beats his wife and/
  or kids and then expects them to forgive him, 
  because he was just being himself. They would
 under-
  stand him and why he needs to lash out like this
 if 
  they were just evolved enough.
 
 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
 mailander111@ wrote:
 
  That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
  of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
  Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
 
 And you are positive it is not?



With Ananda Moya Ma's disciples crowing about how wonderful it was
that she couldn't keep up with her own bodily functions because she
was so centered on God, this might explain the lives of some so
called saints...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
  mailander111@ wrote:
  
   That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
   of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
   Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
  
  And you are positive it is not?
 
 
 
 With Ananda Moya Ma's disciples crowing about how wonderful it was
 that she couldn't keep up with her own bodily functions because she
 was so centered on God, this might explain the lives of some so
 called saints...


Are you Awake? Well that Depends.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread new . morning
MAD -- M. Ayurvedic Depends. For when you are so absorbed in God,
that you just don't give a crap.



 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
   mailander111@ wrote:
   
That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
   
   And you are positive it is not?
  
  
  
  With Ananda Moya Ma's disciples crowing about how wonderful it was
  that she couldn't keep up with her own bodily functions because she
  was so centered on God, this might explain the lives of some so
  called saints...
 
 
 Are you Awake? Well that Depends.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread new . morning
Yogi Awakanada, how did you reach this pinnacle of human achievement, 
the grandeur or Divine Consciousness, at ONE with ALL and with Eternity?

Hey, I am not so special. I put my Depends on one leg at a time.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MAD -- M. Ayurvedic Depends. For when you are so absorbed in God,
 that you just don't give a crap.
 
 
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:

 That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
 of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
 Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.

And you are positive it is not?
   
   
   
   With Ananda Moya Ma's disciples crowing about how wonderful it was
   that she couldn't keep up with her own bodily functions because she
   was so centered on God, this might explain the lives of some so
   called saints...
  
  
  Are you Awake? Well that Depends.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 MAD -- M. Ayurvedic Depends. For when you are so absorbed in God,
 that you just don't give a crap.


MAD -- For the bahkti that totally Depends on God. 
 
 
  
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
mailander111@ wrote:

 That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
 of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
 Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.

And you are positive it is not?
   
   
   
   With Ananda Moya Ma's disciples crowing about how wonderful it was
   that she couldn't keep up with her own bodily functions because she
   was so centered on God, this might explain the lives of some so
   called saints...
  
  
  Are you Awake? Well that Depends.
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread new . morning
Co-Dependent Depends -- For the tantric couple that flows with the
universe.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
 
  MAD -- M. Ayurvedic Depends. For when you are so absorbed in God,
  that you just don't give a crap.
 
 
 MAD -- For the bahkti that totally Depends on God. 
  
  
   
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning no_reply@
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander
 mailander111@ wrote:
 
  That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
  of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
  Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
 
 And you are positive it is not?



With Ananda Moya Ma's disciples crowing about how wonderful it was
that she couldn't keep up with her own bodily functions
because she
was so centered on God, this might explain the lives of some so
called saints...
   
   
   Are you Awake? Well that Depends.
  
 





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Sal Sunshine

On May 4, 2008, at 12:30 PM, new.morning wrote:

MAD -- M. Ayurvedic Depends. For when you are so absorbed in God,  
that you just don't give a crap.


Now that's what I call thinking outside the package.

You're on a roll, new.

Sal




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Tom
Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich. 

No worries. Just cue some nice tunes Hello darkness,
my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.


 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
 of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
 Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
  no_reply@ wrote:
  snip
   Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
   any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
   just had to comment on the above.
  
  Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
  inability to control himself.
  
  That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
  see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
  you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
  seconds--is simply no longer operative.
  
  
  
  
   Have you *ever* read such an ego-bound defense
   of bad behavior in your entire life?
   
   In Edgworld, exercising a modicum of control 
   over one's emotions is ten zillion times worse
   that getting triggered and lashing out.
   
   In other words, what it costs him *to* exercise
   some modicum of control over his emotions is
   ten zillion times more important in the cosmic
   scheme of things than what it costs others to 
   endure his lashing out. 
   
   I'm sorry, but this is the mindset of the chronic
   abuser, the kind of person who beats his wife and/
   or kids and then expects them to forgive him, 
   because he was just being himself. They would
  under-
   stand him and why he needs to lash out like this
  if 
   they were just evolved enough.
  
  
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
 wrote:
 
 
  sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow 
anti-TM 
  crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for 
  joerg, who is Swedish,
 
 Really? That feels like a German Björn (b-yoern) or Börje (boer-yeh)
 to me...  :D

Nah, it is from George as in, George and the Dragon. George comes from 
Gheshowa which is from Jeshowa (Joshua, Jeshau, Jesus) which is from 
JeShiwa, which is why Shiva stands on the demon-dog thingy in his dance 
of Shiva, and St. George slays the Dragon in this ancient celtic 
remnant of the slaying of ignorance concept embodied in the Dance of 
Shiva statues.

OffWorld




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Rick Archer
Hi Rick, 

nice discussion.
Good points raised.

But really:
Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.

So the guy sending this blame against
Raja Emanuel definitely has something
against him.

It would be nice to ask this Guy Fawkes to
identify himself and state his real intentions...

In Germany, blaming s.o. for working for the
secret service against good intentions of a group
is really serious damage. That was intended with this
post.

If someone like a politician would have thrown such an insult,
and didn`t have any proof, he would loose his job right away...

cheers

joerg.



 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings no_reply@
  wrote:
  
  
   sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow 
 anti-TM 
   crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for 
   joerg, who is Swedish,
  
  Really? That feels like a German Björn (b-yoern) or Börje (boer-yeh)
  to me...  :D
 
 Nah, it is from George as in, George and the Dragon. George comes from 
 Gheshowa which is from Jeshowa (Joshua, Jeshau, Jesus) which is from 
 JeShiwa, which is why Shiva stands on the demon-dog thingy in his dance 
 of Shiva, and St. George slays the Dragon in this ancient celtic 
 remnant of the slaying of ignorance concept embodied in the Dance of 
 Shiva statues.
 
 OffWorld


How about a gay couple Jean-Luc and Franco from 
Manchester?



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Angela Mailander
Strictly speaking, we all should have known that it
was a joke when the guy was referred to as Raja in
the first sentence and without quotation marks. 
Reuters would have used only the guy's first and last
names.  

I don't think serious damage was intended.  If there
had been such intent, the joker wouldn't have given
the game away with the references to the newt and the
elves.  

So Joerg should really lighten up a bit. 


--- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Rick, 
 
 nice discussion.
 Good points raised.
 
 But really:
 Guy Fawkes Day is Nov 5th.
 And Aprils Fools Day is April 1st.
 
 So the guy sending this blame against
 Raja Emanuel definitely has something
 against him.
 
 It would be nice to ask this Guy Fawkes to
 identify himself and state his real intentions...
 
 In Germany, blaming s.o. for working for the
 secret service against good intentions of a group
 is really serious damage. That was intended with
 this
 post.
 
 If someone like a politician would have thrown such
 an insult,
 and didn`t have any proof, he would loose his job
 right away...
 
 cheers
 
 joerg.
 
 
 
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
 are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
 prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich.

Uh, toots, the POV that Angela was questioning was
the purest sarcasm. Both you and she missed it.

Lighten up, hey?


 
 
 No worries. Just cue some nice tunes Hello darkness,
 my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.
 
 
  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
mailander111@ wrote:
 
  That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
  of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
  Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
   no_reply@ wrote:
   snip
Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
just had to comment on the above.
   
   Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
   inability to control himself.
   
   That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
   see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
   you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
   seconds--is simply no longer operative.
   
   
   
   
Have you *ever* read such an ego-bound defense
of bad behavior in your entire life?

In Edgworld, exercising a modicum of control 
over one's emotions is ten zillion times worse
that getting triggered and lashing out.

In other words, what it costs him *to* exercise
some modicum of control over his emotions is
ten zillion times more important in the cosmic
scheme of things than what it costs others to 
endure his lashing out. 

I'm sorry, but this is the mindset of the chronic
abuser, the kind of person who beats his wife and/
or kids and then expects them to forgive him, 
because he was just being himself. They would
   under-
stand him and why he needs to lash out like this
   if 
they were just evolved enough.
   
   
   
  
  
  Send instant messages to your online friends 
http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
 
  Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
  are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
  prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich.
 
 Uh, toots, the POV that Angela was questioning was
 the purest sarcasm. Both you and she missed it.
 
 Lighten up, hey?


Oh, it was pure sarcasm alright sweet-cheeks.

sarcasm 
ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late Latin from late Greek 
sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein `tear flesh,' in late Greek `gnash the teeth, 
speak 
bitterly' (from sarx, sark- `flesh' ).

...'gnash teeth...'tear flesh...speak bitterly..yes, your sarcasm
is the purest, and noticed in the first place. Nice and light.
Re-cueing the tunes:
Because a vision softly creeping,
Left its seeds while I was sleeping...  



 
 
  
  
  No worries. Just cue some nice tunes Hello darkness,
  my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.
  
  
   In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
 mailander111@ wrote:
  
   That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
   of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
   Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   --- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
no_reply@ wrote:
snip
 Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
 any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
 just had to comment on the above.

Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
inability to control himself.

That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
seconds--is simply no longer operative.




 Have you *ever* read such an ego-bound defense
 of bad behavior in your entire life?
 
 In Edgworld, exercising a modicum of control 
 over one's emotions is ten zillion times worse
 that getting triggered and lashing out.
 
 In other words, what it costs him *to* exercise
 some modicum of control over his emotions is
 ten zillion times more important in the cosmic
 scheme of things than what it costs others to 
 endure his lashing out. 
 
 I'm sorry, but this is the mindset of the chronic
 abuser, the kind of person who beats his wife and/
 or kids and then expects them to forgive him, 
 because he was just being himself. They would
under-
 stand him and why he needs to lash out like this
if 
 they were just evolved enough.



   
   
   Send instant messages to your online friends 
 http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
  
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
  
   Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
   are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
   prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich.
  
  Uh, toots, the POV that Angela was questioning was
  the purest sarcasm. Both you and she missed it.
  
  Lighten up, hey?
 
 Oh, it was pure sarcasm alright sweet-cheeks.
 
 sarcasm 
 ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late
 Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein
 `tear flesh,' in late Greek `gnash the teeth, speak 
 bitterly' (from sarx, sark- `flesh' ).
 
 ...'gnash teeth...'tear flesh...speak bitterly..yes,
 your sarcasm is the purest, and noticed in the first place.
 Nice and light.
 Re-cueing the tunes:
 Because a vision softly creeping,
 Left its seeds while I was sleeping...

Translation: Ooopsie, I really put my foot in it,
didn't I? Let's see now, how will I recoup? I know!
I'll give the etymology of sarcasm and pretend I
saw it all along! Nobody will ever notice that my
comment to Angela doesn't quite fit that scenario.
Will they? I mean, jeez, it's really crucial that
I bash Judy here to distract folks from Barry's
embarrassing hypocrisy, but I don't want to look
like a hypocrite myself... I dunno, but it's the
best I can come up with.


   No worries. Just cue some nice tunes Hello darkness,
   my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.
   
    In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
  mailander111@ wrote:
   
That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.

--- authfriend jstein@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
 no_reply@ wrote:
 snip
  Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
  any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
  just had to comment on the above.
 
 Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
 inability to control himself.
 
 That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
 see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
 you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
 seconds--is simply no longer operative.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread Tom
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
   
Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich.
   
   Uh, toots, the POV that Angela was questioning was
   the purest sarcasm. Both you and she missed it.
   
   Lighten up, hey?
  
  Oh, it was pure sarcasm alright sweet-cheeks.
  
  sarcasm 
  ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late
  Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein
  `tear flesh,' in late Greek `gnash the teeth, speak 
  bitterly' (from sarx, sark- `flesh' ).
  
  ...'gnash teeth...'tear flesh...speak bitterly..yes,
  your sarcasm is the purest, and noticed in the first place.
  Nice and light.
  Re-cueing the tunes:
  Because a vision softly creeping,
  Left its seeds while I was sleeping...
 
 Translation: Ooopsie, I really put my foot in it,
 didn't I? Let's see now, how will I recoup? I know!
 I'll give the etymology of sarcasm and pretend I
 saw it all along! Nobody will ever notice that my
 comment to Angela doesn't quite fit that scenario.
 Will they? I mean, jeez, it's really crucial that
 I bash Judy here to distract folks from Barry's
 embarrassing hypocrisy, but I don't want to look
 like a hypocrite myself... I dunno, but it's the
 best I can come up with.
 

Re-re-cueing the tunes:
And the vision that was planted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sound of silence.

It is interesting to me that a Clintonite can't recognize and respect
a prayer for peace. So it goes. 

 
No worries. Just cue some nice tunes Hello darkness,
my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.

 In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
   mailander111@ wrote:

 That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
 of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
 Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
 
 --- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
  no_reply@ wrote:
  snip
   Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
   any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
   just had to comment on the above.
  
  Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
  inability to control himself.
  
  That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
  see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
  you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
  seconds--is simply no longer operative.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
snip
  Translation: Ooopsie, I really put my foot in it,
  didn't I? Let's see now, how will I recoup? I know!
  I'll give the etymology of sarcasm and pretend I
  saw it all along! Nobody will ever notice that my
  comment to Angela doesn't quite fit that scenario.
  Will they? I mean, jeez, it's really crucial that
  I bash Judy here to distract folks from Barry's
  embarrassing hypocrisy, but I don't want to look
  like a hypocrite myself... I dunno, but it's the
  best I can come up with.
 
 Re-re-cueing the tunes:

Didn't work the first time, hon, or the second.
Three's not a charm, sorry.

 And the vision that was planted in my brain
 Still remains
 Within the sound of silence.
 
 It is interesting to me that a Clintonite can't recognize
 and respect a prayer for peace. So it goes.

A prayer for peace delivered by a wannabe
gunslinger who manages to shoot himself
multiple times in the foot is somewhat less
than convincing, hon.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread satvadude108
You ain't seen nuthin yet dude. Wait till she starts her race baiting, 
it gets really interesting then. She just don't like the uppity
ones. Best to put on a garland of garlic and read other posts.
I've been wanting to ask TurquoiseB  if it is possible that he was a 
Jesuit exorcist before the Tibetan thang. I bet those dudes could wield
a wooden stake. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Tom azgrey@ wrote:

 Shame on you Angela. Questioning her POV must mean 
 are a hypocrite, a liar, intellectually dishonest, and 
 prolly voted for Republican tax cuts for the rich.

Uh, toots, the POV that Angela was questioning was
the purest sarcasm. Both you and she missed it.

Lighten up, hey?
   
   Oh, it was pure sarcasm alright sweet-cheeks.
   
   sarcasm 
   ORIGIN mid 16th cent.: from French sarcasme, or via late
   Latin from late Greek sarkasmos, from Greek sarkazein
   `tear flesh,' in late Greek `gnash the teeth, speak 
   bitterly' (from sarx, sark- `flesh' ).
   
   ...'gnash teeth...'tear flesh...speak bitterly..yes,
   your sarcasm is the purest, and noticed in the first place.
   Nice and light.
   Re-cueing the tunes:
   Because a vision softly creeping,
   Left its seeds while I was sleeping...
  
  Translation: Ooopsie, I really put my foot in it,
  didn't I? Let's see now, how will I recoup? I know!
  I'll give the etymology of sarcasm and pretend I
  saw it all along! Nobody will ever notice that my
  comment to Angela doesn't quite fit that scenario.
  Will they? I mean, jeez, it's really crucial that
  I bash Judy here to distract folks from Barry's
  embarrassing hypocrisy, but I don't want to look
  like a hypocrite myself... I dunno, but it's the
  best I can come up with.
  
 
 Re-re-cueing the tunes:
 And the vision that was planted in my brain
 Still remains
 Within the sound of silence.
 
 It is interesting to me that a Clintonite can't recognize and respect
 a prayer for peace. So it goes. 
 
  
 No worries. Just cue some nice tunes Hello darkness,
 my old friend. I've come to talk with you again.
 
  In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
mailander111@ wrote:
 
  That's a misunderstanding of the Now.  It contains all
  of the past and all of the future.  Otherwise,
  Alzheimer's would be enlightenment.
  
  --- authfriend jstein@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB
   no_reply@ wrote:
   snip
Edg is a putz, and I really don't want to spend
any more of my Sunday thinking about him, but I
just had to comment on the above.
   
   Sez Barry, who then proceeds to lecture Edg on his
   inability to control himself.
   
   That's the great advantage of Being in the Now, you
   see. You can never be a hypocrite, because whatever
   you've said or done in the past--even in the past 10
   seconds--is simply no longer operative.
 




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-04 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, satvadude108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You ain't seen nuthin yet dude. Wait till she starts her
 race baiting

Never have, never will.

Doncha kinda wish you had a legitimate
complaint and didn't have to keep making
stuff up?




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
forwared:

 Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what.
 
 I think, the message with the number 175 678,
 stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent,
 is really crime.
 Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some
 people are full of hate.
 
 There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany.
 
 And I know Emanuel personally.
 
 Just looking into details of that message:
 It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices.
 I was there in Vlodrop, when he said:
 Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean
 to give it out cheap.
 
 Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is.
 Or think about, wether you accept people to really
 post anonymous about such matters.
 
 cheers
 
 joerg.


I think we've just met Raja Emanuel's gay and
equally humorless lover. 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what.
 
 I think, the message with the number 175 678,
 stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent,
 is really crime.
 Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some
 people are full of hate.
 
 There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany.
 
 And I know Emanuel personally.
 
 Just looking into details of that message:
 It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices.
 I was there in Vlodrop, when he said:
 Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean
 to give it out cheap.
 
 Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is.
 Or think about, wether you accept people to really
 post anonymous about such matters.
 
 cheers
 
 joerg.
 

Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a 
crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited
as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know
what happened after the last one.

Nice to know international are on the case though,
stamping out fun wherever it my arise.

  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread hermandan0
Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate. What's that saying
again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in consciousness!


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what.
  
  I think, the message with the number 175 678,
  stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent,
  is really crime.
  Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some
  people are full of hate.
  
snip
 
 Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still a 
 crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you extradited
 as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know
 what happened after the last one.
 
 Nice to know international are on the case though,
 stamping out fun wherever it my arise.
 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread Angela Mailander
Give poor Joerg a break.  He's German.  We are highly
serious people.



--- hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate.
 What's that saying
 again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in
 consciousness!
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
 Archer rick@ wrote:
  
   Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting
 what.
   
   I think, the message with the number 175 678,
   stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND
 agent,
   is really crime.
   Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that
 some
   people are full of hate.
   
 snip
  
  Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still
 a 
  crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you
 extradited
  as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know
  what happened after the last one.
  
  Nice to know international are on the case though,
  stamping out fun wherever it my arise.
  
 
 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread hugheshugo
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Angela Mailander 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Give poor Joerg a break.  He's German.  We are highly
 serious people.
 

I wrote some parts of Europe rather than simply
Germany just so I wouldn't offend you. Nice to
know you wouldn't have minded ;-)

 
 --- hermandan0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Strange too, that some folks see humor as hate.
  What's that saying
  again? Oh yeah -- knowledge is structured in
  consciousness!
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hugheshugo
  richardhughes103@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick
  Archer rick@ wrote:
   
Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting
  what.

I think, the message with the number 175 678,
stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND
  agent,
is really crime.
Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that
  some
people are full of hate.

  snip
   
   Yeah you'd better be careful Rick, humour is still
  a 
   crime in some parts of Europe. We could have you
  extradited
   as part of Guy Fawkes' sinister new plot. You know
   what happened after the last one.
   
   Nice to know international are on the case though,
   stamping out fun wherever it my arise.
   
  
  
  
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread sandiego108
A good example of the impossibility of anyone continuing the 
powerful TM and related transcending techniques while trying to 
maintain a rigid egoic image of themselves-- IMO why many people 
either become increasingly fundamentalist, bordering on craziness, 
as a reaction against the ever expanding and encroaching 
transcendence in their lives while continuing the techniques, waging 
a desperate yet futile fight against the inevitable and strong tide 
of disillusion, or quit doing TM altogether. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Ha! I knew this was going to happen. The TMO is so far
 gone, they can't even see humor in parody. When a
 group can not laugh at its underbelly and claims they
 have no underbelly, you know they are in deep shit and
 never coming out.
 
 --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting
  what.
  
  I think, the message with the number 175 678,
  stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND
  agent,
  is really crime.
  Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that
  some
  people are full of hate.
  
  There is NO such message or news from Reuters in
  germany.
  
  And I know Emanuel personally.
  
  Just looking into details of that message:
  It was the maharishi personally, who made the
  prices.
  I was there in Vlodrop, when he said:
  Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean
  to give it out cheap.
  
  Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy
  really is.
  Or think about, wether you accept people to really
  post anonymous about such matters.
  
  cheers
  
  joerg.
  
   
  
  
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread off_world_beings
You forgot to mention that Professor Van Dyke of Amsterdam is the 
brother of Dick Van Dyke, who played the nutty professor in Chitty 
Chitty Bang Bang, and the Old Excentric Grandfather in that movie is 
the father of his illigitimate child David Lynch, who's 
character Giacommetti in Twin Peaks was based on a real character 
who was in the CIA and a fanatic member of Scientology, which was 
founded by a rebel FreeMason who idolised Aleister Crowley.

The plot thickens

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. 
 
 Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of
 Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel
 Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the
 German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living
 under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other
 government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration 
was
 limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that
 someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work
 out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America
 should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German
 audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had 
failed
 was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we
 thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the
 spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told 
that
 maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by 
teaching
 meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we
 thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We
 caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the
 prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one
 holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear
 something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded
 messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure
 we kept prices so high no one would learn.
 
 Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to 
have a
 trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so
 we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or 
we'll
 see if he's lighter than a duck 
 
 Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I
 got better
 
 Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of
 Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving
 bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia
 Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them
 tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a 
government
 plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had 
some
 help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of
 their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier.
 
 -- ends





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread off_world_beings
Oh leave Joerg alone. He's probably Swedish.

The Stranglers--Sweden (funny stuff)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btJvIQcPlyg

OffWorld


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 On May 3, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
  I think, the message with the number 175 678,
  stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent,
  is really crime.
  Posted by someone as Guyfawkes, only shows, that some
  people are full of hate.
 
  There is NO such message or news from Reuters in germany.
 
  And I know Emanuel personally.
 
  Just looking into details of that message:
  It was the maharishi personally, who made the prices.
  I was there in Vlodrop, when he said:
  Having gotten it (the TM) from Guru Dev doesn`t mean
  to give it out cheap.
 
  Would be interesting, to track down, who that guy really is.
  Or think about, wether you accept people to really
  post anonymous about such matters.
 
  cheers
 
  joerg.
 
 Joerg:
 
 What would be the appropriate Vedic punishment? After all, we want 
to  
 be in accord with natural law!
 
 We were thinking ghee-boarding may be the way the go, but you know 
us  
 crazy Americans.
 
 Super Radiantly Yours,
 
 Vaj





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread Angela Mailander
Off, that's the post of the week.  Deep bow.



--- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You forgot to mention that Professor Van Dyke of
 Amsterdam is the 
 brother of Dick Van Dyke, who played the nutty
 professor in Chitty 
 Chitty Bang Bang, and the Old Excentric Grandfather
 in that movie is 
 the father of his illigitimate child David Lynch,
 who's 
 character Giacommetti in Twin Peaks was based on a
 real character 
 who was in the CIA and a fanatic member of
 Scientology, which was 
 founded by a rebel FreeMason who idolised Aleister
 Crowley.
 
 The plot thickens
 
 OffWorld
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 
  Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. 
  
  Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the
 Maharishi of
  Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany
 Raja Emanuel
  Schiffgens has been identified as a government
 agent working for the
  German secret service (BND). For many years the
 cult has been living
  under the fear of infiltration by spies from the
 CIA and other
  government agencies but it was always thought that
 the penetration 
 was
  limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said
 We knew that
  someone was sending us off in funny directions but
 we couldn't work
  out who it was. In retrospect his performance in
 Central America
  should have made us suspicious and standing up in
 front of a German
  audience announcing that he planned to succeed
 where Hitler had 
 failed
  was a bit of a giveaway but because he was
 disguised with a crown we
  thought he was one of us. asked how they finally
 rumbled him the
  spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years
 we'd been told 
 that
  maintaining high prices meant we would take over
 the world by 
 teaching
  meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be
 working and we
  thought it must be government agents who were
 misdirecting us. We
  caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all
 voted to reduce the
  prices we charge for learning meditation and he
 was the only one
  holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and
 it was clear
  something funny was going on so we searched his
 room and found coded
  messages from his controller in the BND
 instructing him to make sure
  we kept prices so high no one would learn.
  
  Asked what they planned to do to him he replied
 Well he has to 
 have a
  trial and it's well known that government agents
 float in water so
  we've arranged a public test to see if he floats,
 either that or 
 we'll
  see if he's lighter than a duck 
  
  Another person in the cult claimed He turned me
 into a newt! But I
  got better
  
  Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from
 the University of
  Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're
 stark raving
  bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in
 the Argyreia
  Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that
 was keeping them
  tripped out. To discover that it was actually all
 part of a 
 government
  plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent
 must have had 
 some
  help from the wood gnomes camped out on the
 southern perimeter of
  their compound otherwise he would have been outed
 earlier.
  
  -- ends
 
 
 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting what.
 
 I think, the message with the number 175 678,
 stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND agent,
 is really crime.
 
 cheers
 
 joerg.
 


Yes Joerg,  I'm with you on this entirely.  Mr. Rick Archer clearly 
should be brought up for charges of disorderly and dishonerable 
conduct on the internet for allowing such spurious accusations on his 
forum as these accussations against a Raja who so clearly has his 
fingers on the pulse of things.  Even if they are from Reuters.  

It is just contemptible of all decency what things Rick Archer allows 
on this FairfieldLife forum.   

Jai Guru Dev, 
-Doug in FF





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread John
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. 
 
 Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of
 Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel
 Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the
 German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living
 under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other
 government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration 
was
 limited to low level operatives. A spokesman said We knew that
 someone was sending us off in funny directions but we couldn't work
 out who it was. In retrospect his performance in Central America
 should have made us suspicious and standing up in front of a German
 audience announcing that he planned to succeed where Hitler had 
failed
 was a bit of a giveaway but because he was disguised with a crown we
 thought he was one of us. asked how they finally rumbled him the
 spokesman said He overplayed his hand, for years we'd been told 
that
 maintaining high prices meant we would take over the world by 
teaching
 meditation to rich people but it didn't seem to be working and we
 thought it must be government agents who were misdirecting us. We
 caught him out in a vote over the prices. We all voted to reduce the
 prices we charge for learning meditation and he was the only one
 holding out for higher prices. He was isolated and it was clear
 something funny was going on so we searched his room and found coded
 messages from his controller in the BND instructing him to make sure
 we kept prices so high no one would learn.
 
 Asked what they planned to do to him he replied Well he has to 
have a
 trial and it's well known that government agents float in water so
 we've arranged a public test to see if he floats, either that or 
we'll
 see if he's lighter than a duck 
 
 Another person in the cult claimed He turned me into a newt! But I
 got better
 
 Professor Van Dyke a leading Vlodropolgist from the University of
 Amsterdam said We've known for years that they're stark raving
 bonkers but we thought it was the lysergic acid in the Argyreia
 Nervosa they put in their herbal preparations that was keeping them
 tripped out. To discover that it was actually all part of a 
government
 plot is quite a surprise. Though I think the agent must have had 
some
 help from the wood gnomes camped out on the southern perimeter of
 their compound otherwise he would have been outed earlier.
 
 -- ends


Hey Guy,

Nice piece of satirical work.  I checked the Reuters website to see 
if this article was present in there.  I could not find it.  So, as 
everyone suspects, your article is a piece of fiction.  You got us 
thinking about this one.

JR





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread Peter

--- dhamiltony2k5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Dear Rick, you should be careful, who is posting
 what.
  
  I think, the message with the number 175 678,
  stating, that Raja Emanuel was caught as an BND
 agent,
  is really crime.
  
  cheers
  
  joerg.
  
 
 
 Yes Joerg,  I'm with you on this entirely.  Mr. Rick
 Archer clearly 
 should be brought up for charges of disorderly and
 dishonerable 
 conduct on the internet for allowing such spurious
 accusations on his 
 forum as these accussations against a Raja who so
 clearly has his 
 fingers on the pulse of things.  Even if they are
 from Reuters.  
 
 It is just contemptible of all decency what things
 Rick Archer allows 
 on this FairfieldLife forum.   
 
 Jai Guru Dev, 
 -Doug in FF

Well, Raja-ji Emanuel certainly has his finger on the
pulse of something, but it ain't reality! Oh! Will I
lose my dome badge for that comment? Wait a second I
don't have a dome badge. Phew, that was close. Jai
Guru Dev.




 
 
 
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Louis McKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Until I got to the end I thought this was true.  Now it seems to be someone 
 having 
nothing better to do...


Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter.

Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of
Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel
Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the
German secret service (BND). For many years the cult has been living
under the fear of infiltration by spies from the CIA and other
government agencies but it was always thought that the penetration was
limited to low level operatives.

This phrase tipped me off:

penetration was limited to low level operatives.

The rumor I have heard dating back 30+ years is that a CIA operative at the 
highest level 
of the TMO outed themselves to MMY who appeared unconcerned at that time. 
Certainly, 
the security measures we went through during my Yogic FLying block seemed 
designed by someone who actually had USED security measures in a real life 
setting (speaking as a 
former military person with an inactive NATO Secret clearance), so I realized 
the second it 
was lowest level that this was bogus. Besides, teh CIA/FBI would easily be 
able to insert 
someone into Raja status had they so desired.




Lawson



[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ 
 wrote:
 
  Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. 

IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news agency
in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters, Royters,
Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch...


  
  Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of
  Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel
  Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread Duveyoung
By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious
that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers
and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming
assumptions.

On April Fool's Day, this would have fooled no one, right?

I think satire has the right to use some dirty tricks like misusing
Reuters' name, but yeah, the writer is flirting with slander. 

It was uncomfortable as a gotcha for me, because, well, I was done
got for a few sentences and had had my blood chemicals change with a
rush of what on Earth can the movement do about this scandal?  So my
anti-TMO emotions were triggered, and I was petardized.

I didn't like it, but I bow to the achievement.

Edg


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ 
  wrote:
  
   Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff reporter. 
 
 IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news agency
 in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters, Royters,
 Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch...
 
 
   
   Today a small cult based in Holland founded by the Maharishi of
   Beatles fame announced that its leader for Germany Raja Emanuel
   Schiffgens has been identified as a government agent working for the





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread Angela Mailander
You mean the newt wasn't a dead give-away?


--- Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is
 painfully obvious
 that we've been duped just enough to make the
 thing real to TMers
 and grab them only to then dump them into their own
 pile of steaming
 assumptions.
 
 On April Fool's Day, this would have fooled no one,
 right?
 
 I think satire has the right to use some dirty
 tricks like misusing
 Reuters' name, but yeah, the writer is flirting with
 slander. 
 
 It was uncomfortable as a gotcha for me, because,
 well, I was done
 got for a few sentences and had had my blood
 chemicals change with a
 rush of what on Earth can the movement do about
 this scandal?  So my
 anti-TMO emotions were triggered, and I was
 petardized.
 
 I didn't like it, but I bow to the achievement.
 
 Edg
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John
 jr_esq@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
 guyfawkes91 guyfawkes91@ 
   wrote:
   
Reuters 05-02-2008:23:05 by our staff
 reporter. 
  
  IMO, one shouldn't be using a real name of a news
 agency
  in this kind of stuff. I'd prefer e.g. Beuters,
 Royters,
  Rutters, Reuterz, or somesuch...
  
  

Today a small cult based in Holland founded by
 the Maharishi of
Beatles fame announced that its leader for
 Germany Raja Emanuel
Schiffgens has been identified as a government
 agent working for the
 
 
 
 


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[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious
 that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers
 and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming
 assumptions.

Fucking idiot. I'm a real TM'r and I knew it was fake in the first 2 
sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow anti-TM 
crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for 
joerg, who is Swedish, so that doesn't count). Mostly because the anti-
TM'rs are so desperate for fodder for their gossip-starved pea-brains 
that they hook on anything with their slimy talons hoping for some dry 
rotting carrion to chew on.

What a bunch of meatheads.

OffWorld




[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread Duveyoung
Off, 

You're hardly worth a post, but just to go public with my actual
performance, I knew the article was hinky by the end of the third
sentence.  So I guess you're smarter than me for having gotten it
after only two sentences.

And, again, to all who are so unaware of those who are mentally
deficient and their challenges, remember that the words idiot, moron
and imbecile refer to definite I.Q. ranges.

Whenever someone calls someone an idiot, they are using a scientific
designation such that it becomes an n-word for that group of folks.
 This is your sin, Off, but I'm content to let God explain it to you
as you're about to leave the body on your deathbed and going south soon.

And, as a meat robot, let me inform you that you too are someone with
a meathead.

If exTMers were/are slow to pick up on the satire, it's entirely
understandable given the bizarre nature of the TMO todaysomething
which seems to have you as fooled as the article fooled some of us for
a few seconds.so whose the dumber?  Me for a few seconds, or you
for the rest of your life? I'll take my limitations any day.

And finally, go take a header into a cesspool you ugly spirited prick,
cus, I did my time in the chair, and I'M A TMER more than you are
apparently, because at least I cultured my nervous system to nurture
and retain and expand my New Age values that had gotten me into TM in
the first place; while you seem to have found a way to look in the
mirror despite your universally decried by FFLers personalitytry
to find a single poster here who likes you and quote them about what
they think of your personality that you'd be okay with.  You'll
fail.  I'd rather be an idiot in the official sense than be imprisoned
in your POV.

Edg





--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@ wrote:
 
  By the time one gets to the end of the piece, it is painfully obvious
  that we've been duped just enough to make the thing real to TMers
  and grab them only to then dump them into their own pile of steaming
  assumptions.
 
 Fucking idiot. I'm a real TM'r and I knew it was fake in the first 2 
 sentences. But judging by the responses of the desperately slow anti-TM 
 crowd, THEY are the ones that believed it the longest (except for 
 joerg, who is Swedish, so that doesn't count). Mostly because the anti-
 TM'rs are so desperate for fodder for their gossip-starved pea-brains 
 that they hook on anything with their slimy talons hoping for some dry 
 rotting carrion to chew on.
 
 What a bunch of meatheads.
 
 OffWorld





[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread off_world_beings
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Off, 
 
 You're hardly worth a post, but just to go public with my actual
 performance, I knew the article was hinky by the end of the third
 sentence.  So I guess you're smarter than me for having gotten it
 after only two sentences.
 
 And, again, to all who are so unaware of those who are mentally
 deficient and their challenges, remember that the words idiot, moron
 and imbecile refer to definite I.Q. ranges.
 
 Whenever someone calls someone an idiot, they are using a scientific
 designation such that it becomes an n-word for that group of folks.

idiot is a descriptive term for those who are of obvious slow mental 
capabilities but 
profess to be smart...ie. the fundamentalist Anti-TM'rs here. everyone knows 
that.

  This is your sin, Off, but I'm content to let God explain it to you

Wow, what a  nut.
God???
WTF?? !

You wouldn't know God if it kracked your ass with 2x4. 
Don't talk to me about god, you haven't got a clue what god is. Only idiots 
have to believe 
in god.

Anyways, the rest of your pathetic lecture is not worth more than a 
speed-reading and 
delete, because you know that the embarrassingly dense anti-TM crowd are the 
ones that 
believed it the longest  Mostly because the anti-TM'rs are so desperate for 
fodder for their 
gossip-starved pea-brains that they hook on anything with their slimy talons 
hoping for 
some dry rotting carrion to chew on.

What a bunch of meatheads.

 OffWorld






[FairfieldLife] Re: Breaking news : Raja Schiffgens identified as government agent

2008-05-03 Thread R.G.
 (snip)
 What would be the appropriate Vedic punishment? After all, we want to  
 be in accord with natural law!
 
 We were thinking ghee-boarding may be the way the go, but you know us  
 crazy Americans.
 
 Super Radiantly Yours,
 
 Vaj
  
I heard today, that water-boarding was only the first step, in the
techniques used by the CIA...
You know the US absorbed much of the information on torture, from the
Nazis who were practiced in the art of torture and other human
depravities...
This was a very dark time in German history, and human history.
We are at a turning point, hopefully we can turn away from such animal
like reactions and become more human, as we supposedly  evolve...

As far as an appropriate punishment, we can leave that to the 'Lords
of Karma'...
They don't miss a beat, just waiting for the 'right time'.