Re: [flexcoders] properties in components..

2007-02-08 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi Rich,

This is just a test case of mine. I want to set the label of the button using 
script, inside the component. Forget trying to set it in the main application.
There are no compile errors in the component code (make the id of the button 
whatever you wish), until  the component is included in the main application. 
At that time any reference to the button is not recognised as a valid property 
by the compiler, though the code hinting obliges nicely!

Paul
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rich Tretola 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:53 AM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] properties in components..


  The 1st problem is that you can not name your button id x as it is a reserved 
word.


  Not sure what you are trying to accomplish. If your goal is to be able to set 
the label from the main application, you should do something like this: 


  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
  mx:Canvas xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; width=400
  height=300 
  mx:Script
  ![CDATA[
  [Bindable]
  public var myLabel:String=jim;
  ]]
  /mx:Script
  mx:Button id=x1 label={myLabel}/
  /mx:Canvas 



  ?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
  mx:Application xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; layout=absolute 
xmlns:local=* 
  local:Test myLabel=Rich/
  /mx:Application

  Rich




  On 2/8/07, Paul Andrews  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, this is driving me nuts. I'm using Flex Builder 2.01 on a PC.

I have a very simple component (say test.mxml), code below, where I set a 
label value on a button using actionscript.

I can get this to compile very simply and we're all happy.

As soon as I edit the main application(main.mxml) to include this component:

comp:test
/comp:test

main.mxml is happy but now I get a compile error (access of undefined 
property) in test.mxml saying that the button id is an undefined property.
When I edit the test.mxml code, flexbuilder will happily give me code hints 
about the properties after I've put in the button id.

What's going on? Maybe I just need more coffee?

Paul

?xml version=1.0 encoding=utf-8?
mx:Canvas xmlns:mx=http://www.adobe.com/2006/mxml; width=400 
height=300
mx:Script
![CDATA[
x.label=jim;
]]
/mx:Script
mx:Button id=x label=fred/
/mx:Canvas






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Re: [flexcoders] Returning 'this' from an overridden method?

2007-02-07 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: David_Stafford [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:12 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Returning 'this' from an overridden method?


 Please pardon this simple-minded question from an AS3 novice.

 My base class often returns 'this' from methods which makes it
 convenient to write code like:

   camera.move( 10, 12 ).rotateX( 45 ).rotateY( 90 );

 The problem comes when code extends the base class and overrides one
 of these functions.  The compiler insists, correctly, that the return
 type of an overriding function must match the one in the base class.
 What I want to do is return the 'this' object that is of the type of
 the derived class.  Is this possible?

 The following is a contrived example to demonstrate.  It won't
 compile because the overridden function in the derived class wants to
 return a type of MyCamera rather than Camera:

This is the correct behaviour. The derived class is MyCamera and any
reference to this, either in the derived class or it's parent will be
working with an object of class MyCamera not Camera.

Make the return type Camera, then it will work. You will be returning an
object reference of class Camera, but in fact it is an object reference to
an object of class MyCamera. You can then cast it elsewhere as a 'MyCamera'
in the application.

The problem is that you are trying to change the signature of the method
that you are overriding.

Paul

 public class Camera
   {
   var x:int = 0;
   var y:int = 0;

   public function move( x:int, y:int ) :Camera
 {
 this.x += x;
 this.y += y;

 return( this );
 }
   }

 public class MyCamera extends Camera
   {
   override public function move( x:int, y:int ) :MyCamera
 {
 super.move( x, y );

 if( x  0 )  x = 0;
 if( y  0 )  y = 0;

 return( this );
 }
   }





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Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting

2007-02-07 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex 
Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting


 On Tuesday 06 Feb 2007, Paul Andrews wrote:
 I saw rather a neat powerbook the other day and the idea of using a
 powerbook appealed until I realised I wouldn't be able to have flex on my
 main PC and on a Mac Powerbook with the same licence.

 There's always Parllel / VMWare to run Windows on your Mac.

LOL - shows what I know about Macs..  ;-)


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Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting

2007-02-07 Thread Paul Andrews

  - Original Message - 
  From: Shannon Hicks 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:24 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex 
Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting


  And you can't run the same license of Flex Builder on two windows computers, 
either... One license per computer, what does it matter that one's a PC and the 
other's a Mac?

I think not.

From the licence:.

3.4  Portable or Home Computer Use.  The primary user of the Computer on which 
the Software is installed may install a second copy of the Software for his or 
her exclusive use on either a portable Computer or a Computer located at his or 
her home, provided the Software on the portable or home Computer is not used at 
the same time as the Software on the primary Computer.

Paul
  Shan


  snip

Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Andrews
I saw rather a neat powerbook the other day and the idea of using a powerbook 
appealed until I realised I wouldn't be able to have flex on my main PC and on 
a Mac Powerbook with the same licence. Stick with the Dell then..
  - Original Message - 
  From: Shannon Hicks 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex 
Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting


  I'm planning on switching to a Mac in a few months... Maybe I should start 
the process for switching my Flex license now, so I have it in time :)

  Shan

  Xavi Beumala wrote: 
I'm having the same problems here! It's incredible but I've been trying to 
transfer my win license to mac for the last 3 weeks, and today my trial has 
finally expired! I won't get my license in less than a week so... this means I 
can't work! 

really bad 
X.



On 2/3/07, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  I'll look into it.



  Matt

  Flex PM




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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [flexcoders] More Mac licensing issues: [WAS:: Max OS X Flex 
Builder 2.01 License Issue - still waiting



  To anyone at Adobe who's listening:

  I'm working on a Flex2 project for Scholastic http://scholastic.com and 
we are running into a wall in terms of getting our Flex Builder licenses 
transfered to the Macintosh platform. We purposely bought Windows versions 
knowing that it wouldn't be a problem to transfer the license when the Mac 
version became available. 

  This licensing situation that we and others have experienced is 
completely unacceptable. John Dowdel, do you think that you can help us out a 
bit, or escalate the issue, as you did for others experiencing these problems? 
Or maybe Ted Patrick, you could let others there know that this is a major 
issue for people, and it should be addressed. 

  Here are the issues that we are currently facing:

  1. In order to transfer the license you have to be the authorized 
purchaser of the software and Adobe won't accept a request form the actual end 
user of the license. To make it worse Adobe won't tell us who that person is. 
At a rather large organization (10,000 + employees) like Scholastic, finding 
this authorized person is really difficult to do. 
  2. Even if we do find the person above, we are told that the process will 
take five days from the approved request before Adobe will issue the Mac 
license number.
  3. Currently there's no way for us to extend the trial version until this 
is worked out. We either have to install the trial on another computer or just 
wait it out. 

  It's a pitty that such a great piece of software has so many barriers and 
red tape to actually use it.

  Thanks very much for you attention to this issue.

  -Chris

  On 2/1/07, Brendan Meutzner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi,

  Transferring licenses doesn't seem to be the only issue.  We've been 
using a trial Mac version which just expired and I put through the order for a 
Mac license online last night thinking we'd have a valid key within a few 
minutes (like we did for the PC version last summer)...  Not quite... it 
immediately showed as pending last night, and remained that way this morning.  
So after 30 minutes on hold with customer support this morning, I'm told that 
the more expensive transactions are processed manually and that somebody 
would be reviewing the details within the next 2-3 days.  WTF?  Since when is a 
$499 FlexBuilder license expensive, and even so, why do they need to process 
manually?  Really really not happy this morning... especially because it's 
pretty much impossible to find a temporary key for the Mac version (I didn't 
just say that though)... 

  It's too bad that the fantastic relationship we have with the Adobe 
engineers can't spread over to the CS department a bit...


  Brendan





  On 1/25/07, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

  On Wednesday 24 January 2007 19:53, John Dowdell wrote:
   What you and Ethan describe doesn't seem acceptable to me either, but
   let me get some more information on this, and get back to the list when
   I do, good?

  Sounds great.
  Could you also try and find out if there are plans to just automate the 
whole
  process ?
  It strikes me that converting license betwen platforms shouldn't really
  require a human in the loop, if it's only done once. 

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Re: [flexcoders] layout like My Yahoo page?

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Andrews
I should think that just using a canvas and dragging the components around
would do the trick - you'll need to code having them snap into place and
take care of sizing/overlaps. I would imagine that would be the Ajax
strategy too.

Paul
- Original Message - 
From: tinkiknit [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:09 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] layout like My Yahoo page?


 Hi Flexperts...

 me again! this time, a new question as far as i can tell since I didn't
 find anything like this in the archives...

 i'd like to create an application like the My Yahoo page where you can
 move around your components. We've currently got a canvas that contains
 several HDividedBox's and VDividedBox's but we'd like to be able to
 move them around, resize them, etc., sort of like what My Yahoo
 has...any idea if Flex has this built in or will we have to extend
 components to do this? I think My Yahoo is built using Ajax (correct me
 if I am wrong please) so figure Flex must have something similar or
 better?

 thanks for any help!

 Christine



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Re: [flexcoders] Flash simple question

2007-01-28 Thread Paul Andrews
The browser cache, wherever that happens to be..

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To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 1:47 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Flash simple question


 Hi all,

 When a swf file is downloaded to my computer, where is it stored? I mean
 where on the file system?

 Thanks

 Olivier

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Re: [flexcoders] Poker game with FDS

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Andrews
Don't lose your shirt, would be my tip.

;-)

I don't really see why a Poker game would be different to any other
application. If you have no idea about programming a game, check out the
Flash game books and adapt their strategy for AS3.

Paul

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From: Alexander Tsoukias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:16 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Poker game with FDS


 Hi all,

 What are the steps that come to your mind regarding building a Poker
 Game in FLEX using FDS?

 Tips, things to be carefull and consider, ideas, comments etc...

 Thanks,
 Alexander



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Re: [flexcoders] Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue

2007-01-07 Thread Paul Andrews
I don't have a Mac, but to me it seems a retrograde step to have separate PC 
and Mac licences. Other software I have allows usage on either platform and I 
can easily envisage a situation where developers might be working on PCs on one 
project then have to switch to a Mac for another company. Yes, I realise that 
you can develop on a PC then deploy on a Mac, but I've no doubt it will be a 
PIA for testing.

Why can't the same licence work on any available platform?

Paul
  - Original Message - 
  From: matt wicks 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 3:48 PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue


  Yeah I'm in the same boat ...




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  Sent: 06 January 2007 15:38
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Max OS X Flex Builder 2.01 License Issue



  Hi,

  I down loaded the OS X release of Flex Builder 2 and installed it but it does 
not like my 
  Windows license. Does anyone know whether there will be some sort of license 
exchange 
  available? My charting license worked fine though. I bought the Windows 
version to bridge 
  the gap until the OS X version was available. As soon as the Mac beta was out 
I switched and 
  have not looked back. Don't tell me that I am going to have to fork out 
another 500 bucks 
  just to be able to work on my operating system of choice...

  Regards,
  -bill

   

Re: [flexcoders] Re: and I thought Adobe was a professional company. Whats going on with the upgrade

2007-01-06 Thread Paul Andrews
Patience is a virtue, Bruce. I'm sure they'll get there.

- Original Message - 
From: boy_trike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 1:24 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: and I thought Adobe was a professional company.
Whats going on with the upgrade


And I stand PARTIALLY Corrected.  Yes there is the bug list and the list of
new features,
but while the COMPILER options show the syntax and examples, the two big
feature
enhancements runtime stylesheet and modules both have a sentence without
showing the
syntax and / or examples.  Where is one supposed to learn about them?

Bruce


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 Fixed bugs?
 http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/
releasenotes_flex2_fds.html#fixedbugs
 http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/
releasenotes_flex201_sdk.html#fixedbugs

 what's new (like new properties and stuff like that)?
 http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/
releasenotes_flex201_sdk.html#whatsnew
 http://www.adobe.com/support/documentation/en/flex/2/
releasenotes_flex2_fds.html#whatsnew

 all at adobe website...and not at someones blog...

 João Fernandes

 On 06/01/07, boy_trike [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Its great that there is an upgrade to 2.0.1 So where is the READ ME
  telling us about the
  changes. (oh yea, you can find a web page that tells you that there is
  something called
  modules and you can now change style sheets dynamically. but where are:
 
  1). The examples
  2). The new syntax changes
  3). The list of the 250 bugs that are fixed (or are we supposed to guess
  which ones they
  got?)
 
  We should NOT have to find out about these features on someones blog.
This
  seems very
  amateurish to me.
 
 
  Bruce
 
 
 



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Re: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control

2007-01-04 Thread Paul Andrews
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Newman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2007 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control


 Paul Andrews wrote:
  Here are my questions:
  1) If I do this, can I add a loader to each child of the ViewStack so
  that the user does not have to wait for the entire app to load in
  order to start the application?
 
 
  This already happens with components instantiated on demand as you run
  through the view stack.
 Components will be instantiated on demand, but is there a way to prevent
 them from even downloading, until they are needed?

No, but flash is a streaming format. If you look back on previous flecoders
discussions, there was a similar question in this thread:
Lazy loading components

Paul

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex + Struts

2007-01-04 Thread Paul Andrews
- Original Message - 
From: raul7s [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex + Struts


 All,

 I'm trying to incorporate FLEX front end into an already existing
 Struts/Hibernate/JSP application. However, there are COUPLE OF THINGS
 that I can't seem to figure out.

 1) Are there any FLEX jar files that I'd need to add under WEB-INF
 folder or do I need to modify web.xml?

If you're deploying Flex 2 without Flex Data Services, there aren't any jar
files to worry about.

 2) I don't want to re-write any struts action classes, and action forms.
Having said that, how do i use session/request attributes being
 passed to my JSPs for my FLEX pages.

You'll need some Javascript, but really just how do you propose to interact
with the web page?

When deployed, Flex is just like incorporating flash on a page. I think you
should explain exactly what you're planning to do and how you'd like it to
work.

Paul

 The following article doesnt seem to explain configuring/installing
 FLEX with already existing web application.
 http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/articles/struts.html

 Any Comments/Suggestions,

 Much appreciated,

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Re: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control

2007-01-01 Thread Paul Andrews

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Merritt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2007 7:27 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] ViewStates vs ViewStacks in App Control


 I am trying to build out a basic framework for my application and I
 have about 4 different screens that users can view depending on
 what they are trying to do in the applications:

 Welcome Graphics  Login Screen
 Overview Screen
 Detailed View Screen
 Generate Reports Screen

 These screens don't share similar menus or components so I am
 thinking it is best to create a view stack for navigating between the
 different screens -

 Application
   ViewStack
Welcome Graphics  Login Screen
Overview Screen
Detailed View Screen
Generate Reports Screen

Perhaps:

Application default state
Welcome Graphics  Login Screen
Application logged on state
  ViewStack
Overview Screen
Detailed View Screen
Generate Reports Screen

Apart from the obvious logon situation I think states can work really well
within components.

 Here are my questions:
 1) If I do this, can I add a loader to each child of the ViewStack so
 that the user does not have to wait for the entire app to load in
 order to start the application?

This already happens with components instantiated on demand as you run
through the view stack.

 2) I could also do this using ViewStates, but it seems to me that
 ViewStates are more useful when there are significant shared assets 
 components between the different states.  However, performance-wise
 would it be better to use one over the other?

I would split the different 'screens' into separate flex components and add
them into the viewstack. Having them as separate components makes the app
much more modular - my designs are components nested within components like
building bricks. Use events to communicate between components (or more
properly your MVC architecture).

 3) In the long run (should my application grow larger)  would it be
 better to use a modular approach and load modules for each view?

See how it goes - build as much as you need - when/if it gets slow, look
again at re-architecting the application using components you have built.
Don't make things more complicated than it needs to be.

 However because I am using Cairngorm would this add an extra layer of
 difficulty trying to maintain/share a ModelLocator, FrontController,
 etc between a number of different modules?

Don't really see how Cairngorm would affect this. If you build in
complication it will be complicated with or without Cairngorm.

Paul



 Thanks for your advice.  It always seems the design decisions are
 much more confusing than the actual coding!!

 - Kevin


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Re: [flexcoders] Happy Eid Mubarak and New Year Wish

2006-12-31 Thread Paul Andrews
Good Message Sajid. May 2007 be a good year for all.

Paul
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  From: Sajid Hussain 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 10:26 PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Happy Eid Mubarak and New Year Wish




  Hello 

  In life we celebrate many events and today we have two great celebrations Eid 
and  NEW YEAR together with such  events we create our new hopes,ideas and we 
see success for coming days of life ,so wishing you  greats event of life 
,Happy New Year and Eid Mubarak with this pray May God brings happiness and 
success to your life
  Amen 


  Thanks 
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Re: [flexcoders] Any word on The RIA book??

2006-12-29 Thread Paul Andrews
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 1:04 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Any word on The RIA book??


 The contents of this book have me extremely excited, and is integral to
 my project that I must finish up in the next couple months.

What topic(s) specifically  is making you so excited?

Paul



Re: [flexcoders] source code of Training from the Source

2006-12-28 Thread Paul Andrews
I should think that everyone who has bought the book has it..

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From: Shailesh Mangal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 1:30 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] source code of Training from the Source


 Does any one have the source code of Adobe Flex2 - Training from the
 Source.

 sxm



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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Load swc instead of swf

2006-12-27 Thread Paul Andrews
Your original post said you were happy to load an external file, why
couldn't it be an xml or html file?

Paul

- Original Message - 
From: ssundke [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2006 11:08 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Load swc instead of swf


 Hey Lach,
 Loading XML files from where? I need to write an help html and im
 looking at the best way to write it without creating external
 dependancies.

 - Saba

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Lachlan Cotter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi Saba,
 
  What's wrong with just loading ordinary XML files?
 
  Cheers,
  Lach
 
 
  On 20/12/2006, at 10:12 PM, ssundke wrote:
 
   Ok.. so what do I do for this problem.
  
   I need to write some help files for my project and I need my swf
 to be
   standalone since it can be used. I didnt want to hardcode the
 html in
   one as file or mxml file, so I thought I would make a separate
 file
   for
   it and let it be loaded when it was needed. Since I need my swf
 to be
   standalone, I didnt want any dependancy on some other web
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   What
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: An architectural blueprint for Flex applications

2006-12-19 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: Oliver Lietz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: An architectural blueprint for Flex
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 Am Dienstag, 19. Dezember 2006 09:53 schrieb devisbalsemin:
  yes we looked Cairngorm, but we think Cairngorm framework is an
  alternative (good)...
  We are not searching a fremework... but Flex Design Pattern for
  implement An architectural..
  Thanks for your rply...

 There are no Flex Design Patterns but Design Patterns. Design Patterns are
 language independent.

Yes, but Advanced ActionScript 3 with Design Patterns by Joey Lott is pretty
darn good..

http://www.amazon.com/Advanced-ActionScript-3-Design-Patterns/dp/0321426568/sr=8-1/qid=1166537570/ref=sr_1_1/103-0521517-8384642?ie=UTF8s=books

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Charting Survey

2006-12-14 Thread Paul Andrews
I think what the questions are saying is that the poll would have been 100% 
better with some examples, so there couldn't be a misunderstanding..

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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Charting Survey


  The former, the what's hot question.  E.g., 
http://screening.nasdaq.com/heatmaps/heatmap_pmi.asp or what you see at 
http://www.labescape.com/


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  Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2006 9:52 PM
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  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Charting Survey

   

  On 12/14/06, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Do you use charts in Flex or do you think you may in the future? Please
   take 2 minutes to take a survey on possible chart types and enhancements
   for a future release. It's two questions and will take you to flex.org
   when complete.

  what's a heat map? like what's hot stock chart? or some kind of
  surface/contour one?

   

Re: [flexcoders] Clearing panels before changing state

2006-12-08 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: stephen50232 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, December 08, 2006 2:17 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Clearing panels before changing state


 Hi,

 In my application when the user clicks the log out button, the
 currentState is changed, but before that I'd like to be able to clear
 all the TitleWindows that my still be opened by the user.

 Is there a way to force all the TitleWindows to close before changing
 the state?

How about issuing a custom LOGOUT event that the windows can respond to?

Paul

 Thanks

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Re: [flexcoders] Eclipse becoming HORRIBLY slow??

2006-11-07 Thread Paul Andrews
Seems darn big to me for anything..

Why is it so big? Usually with classes and modularisation, you'd expect much 
smaller files. Are you breaking up the UI into components?

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 Well, it's not VERY big..  (2000 lines)

 Is that very big for Eclipse?

 Thanks

 Steve



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 Are there any known conditions that I should be
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 Is the file itself very big ?

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Re: [flexcoders] Crazy Issue

2006-11-02 Thread Paul Andrews





No particular theories, but it sounds like you need 
some debugging/audit trail to be able to monitor what's really happenning. 
In the scale of things hundreds of records may not show up a bug in your 
software. If I had a wild guess, something's gone wrong causing the ID to be 
overwritten, or an old ID to remain in place rather than be 
overwritten.

Good luck.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 1:52 
  PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Crazy Issue
  Although there is no proof that this actually occured as 
  stated. I am getting feedback from management that the following 
  occured.Here is the setup.A flex2 swf running within a .jsp 
  reads in a url variable using request.getParameter(). The variable is 
  passed into the swf using flashVars and stored as a property of the 
  model. The application loads specific data based on that model.id. The application then allows the 
  user to input data and attaches the model.id to 
  the object and then saves it to the database through a remote object 
  java/hibernate backend. Management is telling me that a record in the 
  database shows a different id than the one that was passed into the 
  application through flashVars. I don't see any way this could be 
  possible but thought I would throw it out to the list. There have been 
  hundeds of records that have been saved properly and only one in 
  question. The only thing I can think of is that the user either 
  went to the wrong url or edited the id url variable. Both of these seem 
  unlikely however.Any one have any theories?Rich 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Data Services painfully slow?

2006-10-24 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: ryanharlin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 1:45 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex Data Services painfully slow?


 How could I diagnose and identify routing and/or DNS problems?

I'd like to help, but it's not really my area. All of the problems I've seen 
have related to primary DNS servers being unable to resolve a. hostname, 
requiring that the hostname be submitted to a secondary DNS server - this 
all takes a significant amount of time and caused delays. These problems 
always coincided with a rebuild of a DNS server and it's database being 
incomplete.  If you are using fixed IP addresses, I doubt DNS lookup will 
come into play, but DNS isn't my strongpoint.

Good luck.

Paul



 My setup is pretty basic.  I'm coding at home the requests come into
 my router which is set up to forward port 8700 to the MacBook which is
 running Windows and hosts the DB, Coldfusion, and FDS.

 There's no DNS I'm running and I access by direct IP address.

 Any thoughts on how to test both of these good suggestions?



 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can't really say about FDS being slow, but on other systems where
 we've had painful network transfers, it's often been followed back to
 a DNS routing problem.

 Paul
   - Original Message - 
   From: Matt Chotin
   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:56 PM
   Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Data Services painfully slow?


   Is there a proxy server involved somehow maybe?  There is no
 licensing throttling or anything like that.  It just sounds like
 you're having routing problems or something similar?





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   To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
   Subject: [flexcoders] Flex Data Services painfully slow?



   I'm getting into developing a flex application with Flex Data
   Management Services using Coldfusion CFCs to talk to the backend.

   All's going well enough, except for one problem.

   When I test from outside the internal network... ie. hit the server
   from home over a regular broadband connection... the data that loads
   into my datagrid takes almost 2 minutes to load.

   Slow is not an accurate enough word. It's more like 'unusable' or
   'deal breaker.'

   Even on the faster internal network testing the pages have noticeable
   delays when loading. After entering the localhost:8700 address in the
   browser and hitting enter it sits for a while on waiting for
   localhost... before the page loads.

   Is all this solved when you go beyond a single machine to host the
   database, coldfusion development server, and flex development server?
   Or are the development server licenses throttled back to make them
   non-options for those that would consider rolling out without
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Re: [flexcoders] Pagination? Where?

2006-10-24 Thread Paul Andrews





Surely this is up to you and your back-end code 
rather than flex? Get the Flex application to request 'page 1' and let your 
backend code just return a 'page' of data. How you do that is up to 
you.

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Fabio 
  Barreiro 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 5:49 
  PM
  Subject: RES: [flexcoders] Pagination? 
  Where?
  
  
  500 rows of data was 
  just an example. Some queries on my database may return as high as 1 
  rows.
  I’m using ASP pages 
  as the back-end.
  So pagination would 
  be the solution to better performance and user-interface 
  issues.
  
  
  
  
  
  De: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] 
  Em nome de Tracy 
  SprattEnviada em: 
  terça-feira, 24 de outubro de 2006 14:40Para: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comAssunto: RE: [flexcoders] Pagination? 
  Where?
  
  
  
  
  
  Where are your 500 
  rows of data? Already on the client or still on the 
  server?
  
  In other words, is 
  the problem you are trying to solve with pagination one of rendering 
  performance, or one of data access performance? Or 
  neither?
  
  Tracy
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] On Behalf Of Fabio BarreiroSent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:28 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: RES: [flexcoders] Pagination? 
  Where?
  
  
  
  
  
  Tracy
  
  For 
  example..
  Let’s say I have a 
  500 rows data
  I want the DataGrid 
  to show 100 rows and then the user be able to navigate through 5 pages showing 
  100 records each
   
   
   
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  De: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] 
  Em nome de Tracy 
  SprattEnviada em: 
  terça-feira, 24 de outubro de 2006 14:07Para: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comAssunto: RE: [flexcoders] Pagination? 
  Where?
  
  
  
  
  
  Can you be more 
  specific about what you want to do? “pagination” can mean many 
  things.
  
  Tracy
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com] 
  On Behalf Of 
  Fabio 
  BarreiroSent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 10:20 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Pagination? 
  Where?
  
  
  
  
  
  Is it possible to do 
  pagination on a large 
  Datagrid?
  Is there an example 
  available?
   
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Data Services painfully slow?

2006-10-23 Thread Paul Andrews





I can't really say about FDS being slow, but on 
other systems where we've had painful network transfers, it's often been 
followed back to a DNS routing problem.

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Matt Chotin 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 23, 2006 10:56 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex Data 
  Services painfully slow?
  
  
  Is there a proxy 
  server involved somehow maybe? There is no licensing throttling or 
  anything like that. It just sounds like you’re having routing problems 
  or something similar?
  
  
  
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
  Behalf Of ryanharlinSent: Monday, October 23, 2006 7:24 
  AMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Flex Data Services 
  painfully slow?
  
  
  
  
  I'm getting into developing a flex application with 
  Flex DataManagement Services using Coldfusion CFCs to talk to the 
  backend.All's going well enough, except for one problem.When I 
  test from outside the internal network... ie. hit the serverfrom home over 
  a regular broadband connection... the data that loadsinto my datagrid 
  takes almost 2 minutes to load.Slow is not an accurate enough word. 
  It's more like 'unusable' or'deal breaker.'Even on the faster 
  internal network testing the pages have noticeabledelays when loading. 
  After entering the localhost:8700 address in thebrowser and hitting enter 
  it sits for a while on "waiting forlocalhost..." before the page 
  loads.Is all this solved when you go beyond a single machine to host 
  thedatabase, coldfusion development server, and flex development 
  server?Or are the development server licenses throttled back to make 
  themnon-options for those that would consider rolling out 
  withoutlicensing the real deal?
   
  
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Re: [flexcoders] How to generate pdf of MXML file

2006-10-18 Thread Paul Andrews





The short answer is "No". The best you can do is 
generate a printJob which outputs to the local printer. It will only create a 
PDF is you have a PDF conversion printer driver installed. This subject has 
already been discussed in another thread...

Paul

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  Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 10:01 
  AM
  Subject: [flexcoders] How to generate pdf 
  of MXML file
  
  
  Hi,
   
  I want to know that is it possible to generate the pdf from the mxml 
  components in flex 1.5 or 2.0 or not. If possible then which class can we 
  use?
  
  Akash,
   
  


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Re: [flexcoders] Re: getting printed versions of the docs

2006-10-15 Thread Paul Andrews





And what about the rest of us outside the US? 
:-(

Paul

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  Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 7:32 
  PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Re: getting printed 
  versions of the docs
  Printed versions of the Flex 2 doc set can now be purchased for 
  $50 online at:https://store1.adobe.com/cfusion/store/index.cfm?category=/Applications/FlexwithChartingNR=0#view=ols_prodcategoryOID=1579184 
  The manuals included in this documentation set include the 
  following 4 books:
  
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and Deploying Flex Applications 
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Re: [flexcoders] Now Shipping: ActionScript 3.0 Cookbo ok - Solutions for Flash Platform and Flex Application Dev elopers

2006-10-14 Thread Paul Andrews





Just a heads-up for anyone that has pre-ordered this book 
from Amazon UK. You can save yourself about eight pounds by cancelling the order 
then re-ordering. the price has dropped!

I've decided to go for an amazon re-seller - I suspect 
they may get it delivered sooner than Amazon UK gets the books.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex + coldfusion without FDS

2006-10-13 Thread Paul Andrews
How about a web service?

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Subject: [flexcoders] Flex + coldfusion without FDS


 Hi Everyone,

 I was wondering if it is possible to interact with Coldfusion without
 the use of FDS.

 Any valuable thoughts are welcomed

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Re: [flexcoders] Help with class

2006-10-12 Thread Paul Andrews





A bit more code might help. Did you declare the 
property as private? Is the function you're talking about a method of the 
class?

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karthik 
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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 1:04 
  PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Help with 
  class
  
  
  
  Hi,I am new to 
  Flex2. I have a class called test.as. I am trying to create object in mxml 
  script tag by var t:test = new test();If I try to access any 
  the prop of object itz throwing error.But if I define the same inside a 
  function itz working fine.Why is it so? I cant use that object outside the 
  function.Is there any solution or is it like that.
  Regards,
  JK
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
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Re: [flexcoders] Data synchronisation tips and tricks?

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi Everyone,
 Excelent Topic!..
I am now in the midst of writing or should i say rewriting an 
existing CF/Flash forms app to a Flex/CF/FDS app with SQL 2000.

Its a dispatching system. we have several hundred agents creating a 
dispatch, on creation, each dispatch checks for availability of its 
team members and offers the dispatch to each member one at a time. 
there is a timeout between the offerings. The backend (CF) functions 
run on a schedule every 15 minutes none stop 24/7.
If this task finds dispatches that need attention either from a tech 
or a manager, the underlying data is modified by the backend CFC.
Once the dispatch has either been accepted by a tech or cancled by a 
manager the process is complete.

Not much here for FDS on the catching of collisions, but there is 
alot of data changes that happen all the time. I am building a case 
for purchasing Flex and FDS. and need some good examples of how to 
accomlish the same types of things with the DAO objects and FDS and 
grids within a flex app.

Here is my show stopper.
I have yet to find a way (I am sure there is one) to call the sync 
methods of the FDS ArrayCollection representation of the underlying 
data by my existing CFC's that actually modify the data.

In other words, no none flex code can push out the changes! This is a 
huge problem for me, i am not a Java coder, but i know a bit about it.

I can call the create, update, and delete methods within the actual 
DAO cfc, but not the Assembler cfc. Those require an object to passed 
to them. a ChangeObject. and i do not know how to create on withing 
CF/CFC code in order to modify the data in a way that the clients 
will see the changes.

I started my project out with the guts of the CFcontact example and i 
have read all the samples and articles on devnet, but nothing really 
stands out about how to modify this virtual data (FDS 
ArrayCollection) without actually Using Flex to make the changes.

Anyway, this is my war story, hopefully i will find a solution and i 
can complete my Case study.
By the way, i have had to blow away my installation of Flex Builder 
so many times now, i have run out of PC's to reinstall it on :( i 
dont want to buy it yet because of this issue...

TIA if anyone knows how i can get around this.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Lots of states or load SWFs?

2006-10-10 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Lots of states or load SWFs?


 Now I'm wondering if tabs are the way to go?

You could use tabs and it would do what you want, though it's probably best 
to sit back and think how you'd like the application to behave. Go through 
the Flex component explorer and get a feel for things.

Paul

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 Hi,

 I'm new to the paradigm and trying to get my mind around the approach
 to the following:

 If I want an outer container that lets me see three different views,
 each a datagrid that has nothing to do with the other 2, am I better
 off

 a) having a master application that loads each view using swf loader

 or

 b) using lots of panels in different states?

 or

 c) something I don't know about cause I'm so new!

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Re: [flexcoders] Licensing and Distribution of SWFs created by Flex Builder 2

2006-10-07 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Iko 
  Knyphausen 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 10:38 
  PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Licensing and 
  Distribution of SWFs created by Flex Builder 2
  
  
  Hello 
  everyone,
  
  I am interested in building a 
  commercial application and using Flex Builder for creating the client-side 
  (using ASP.NET on the server). From what I can see, it is totally possible to 
  create a Flash (swf) that runs without server components (such as the Data 
  Services) – and to send and retrieve data via HTTPService (I guess that’s the 
  same as an improved XMLHTTP component).
  
  Here is my question: On Adobe’s 
  web site there is mention of ISV/OEM licensing. I also downloaded the license 
  agreements for Flex Builder and Charting, and I must say, I am not very good 
  in deciphering what it really means. I understand that you cannot redistribute 
  SDK files, the IDE itself, etc. but the compiled code (it’s just an SWF, isn’t 
  it) should be freely distributable. This is what one would expect from any dev 
  environment, such as Visual Studio, or Flash MX for that matter. Or am I 
  missing something?
  
  Can someone enlighten me…? 
  Please forgive me, if this question has popped up before on this list. I 
  did search the archives before sending this.
  
  Thanks a 
  million
  
  Iko 
  Knyphausen
You can 
redistribute your swf files as you see fit - no royalties.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: How many cfs's are TOO much

2006-10-05 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: boy_trike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: How many cfs's are TOO much


 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Tom Chiverton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 
  On Wednesday 04 October 2006 22:33, boy_trike wrote:
most of my components have 2- 6 cfc (ie. AddRecord, UpdateRecord,
   DeleteRecord, ReadRecords).  Each one has a unique function to call it
and
   a result handler.  Is there a better way to handle / group my cfc's.
 
  It would be normal to group all the CRUD (create read update delete)
methods
  for an object into one CFC.
 
  -- 

 I am not sure what you mean by NORMAL.  Is there any performance hit by
having 6 cfc's in a
 component vs. 1?  Is it better to have one large results function with a
switch statement to
 handle the results?

 thanks
 bruce

I don't think it's a question of performance, rather more a case of
collecting related functions together - much along the lines of methods in
an Actionscript class. Far easier to manage.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Marketing

2006-10-04 Thread Paul Andrews





Is it just me that thinks Adobe is doing fine just 
as they are? I think the real Flex breakthroughs will come as developers start 
releasing clever apps and people start saying "holy s**t".

I happen to think that the developer support by 
Adobe (and Macromedia before them)is phenomenal. Flex will move 
forward quietly until it hits it's tipping point, then adoption will surge 
ahead.

Don't worry too much about promoting Flex - let 
your applications do that for you.

Paul

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  From: 
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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2006 9:58 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 
  Marketing
  I'd agree to that. The marketing effort seems to heavily rely 
  on the development community doing that job for them. Things like labs and 
  DevNet are KEY to maximizing technology adoption - but people need to know 
  about it in the first place.To Restate Adobe's Goal: 1 000 000 Flex 
  Developers by 2010. Some HEAVY DUTY marketing is needed. It definitely 
  made sense to capture those who are most amiable to Flex (CF and Flash 
  developers) first and grow from there. I think someone blogged about this 
  before; in that of course Adobe related blogs are going to be heavy proponents 
  for Adobe technologies. But now it's time to penetrate into the rest of the 
  world.In polling my heavy duty tech friends in other industries, they 
  BARELY know what Flex is. Many haven't heard of it. And some have heard of it, 
  just because they heard me mention it.Awareness of the brand and 
  technology needs to be more prevalent.Gimme a cool Flex decal and I'll 
  put it on my car! :)Clint Modien wrote: 
  

I mentioned this @ the Silicon Valley Flex User Group meeting 
theother day but I wanted to reiterate it here and see if I could 
invokea response from Adobe.Mr. Mendels?Where is the 
marketing for Flex? Why keep the most beautifulframework in the world 
for creating applications a secret? Where arethe Visual Studio style 
banner adds everywhere. Where is the buzz forit on Slashdot. Why arn't 
other developers in the world standing upand saying is creating 
applications really this easy!?!I've seen the lights go on in a 
developers eyes when they get it.When they see what 5 lines of code can 
acomplish with Flex. They getexcited. Excitement sells 
licenses.(Gets off his soapbox and points to it...) ... 
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Re: [flexcoders] Problem with IFrame

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: cheftimbob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Problem with IFrame


 I'm following one of the examples for displaying HTML in a flex
 application. It uses an IFrame. When I add this to my code:

 mx:Panel title=Content width=100% height=100% paddingTop=1
 paddingBottom=1  paddingLeft=1 paddingRight=1
IFrame id=iFrame width=100% height=100%
 urlSource=http://www.yahoo.com;  initialCount=20/
mx:ControlBar
 mx:CheckBox id=cbVisible label=IFrame Visible selected=true
 click=iFrame.visible=cbVisible.selected/
/mx:ControlBar
 /mx:Panel

 The IFrame line throws and error 'type was not found or was not a
 compile time constant'.

 The example came from:
 http://coenraets.com/viewarticle.jsp?articleId=95

I can't read the source of the example, but I believe that a new mxml iframe 
component was created, so to use it you must also have that component. There 
isn't a native iframe component.

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Re: [flexcoders] Problem with IFrame

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Andrew Trice 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 8:58 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Problem with 
  IFrame
  
  
  The IFrame does not 
  actually get embedded within the Flex application. It sits on top of it 
  and appears seamless. In reality, they are only tied together by the 
  HTML that contains the flex application.
  
  -Andy
  
As I understand it 
there's an MXML iframe too..

  
  
  _
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  On Behalf Of 
  cheftimbobSent: 
  Wednesday, September 27, 2006 3:46 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: [flexcoders] Problem with 
  IFrame
  
  
  
  
  I'm following one of the examples for displaying HTML 
  in a flex application. It uses an IFrame. When I add this to my 
  code:mx:Panel title="Content" width="100%" height="100%" 
  paddingTop="1" paddingBottom="1" paddingLeft="1" 
  paddingRight="1"IFrame id="iFrame" width="100%" 
  height="100%" urlSource="http://www.yahoo.com" 
  initialCount="20"/mx:ControlBarmx:CheckBox 
  id="cbVisible" label="IFrame Visible" selected="true" 
  click="iFrame.visible=cbVisible.selected"//mx:ControlBar/mx:PanelThe 
  IFrame line throws and error 'type was not found or was not a compile time 
  constant'. The example came from:http://coenraets.com/viewarticle.jsp?articleId=95
   
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Problem with IFrame

2006-09-27 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: Ali Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Problem with IFrame


 Tim,

 IFrame isn't an MXML element.  It's HTML.  So, the type not found
 error MXMLC is throwing makes sense.

Actually it's both an HTML element and a custom mxml component (a subclass 
of canvas)..

Paul


The Coenraets example you using
 as a guide works by using JavaScript to overlay an IFrame in HTML over
 the SWF's OBJECT/EMBED location in HTML.  The example's been updated
 by Brian Deitte for Flex 2, and the updated version can be found at
 http://www.deitte.com/archives/2006/08/finally_updated.htm.

 This is a tricky feature to get just right.  Good luck with it!


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Re: [flexcoders] Flex and Screen / application Sharing

2006-09-25 Thread Paul Andrews
What exactly do you mean by sharing applications/screens?

Paul
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Subject: [flexcoders] Flex and Screen / application Sharing


Hi guys,
Soes anyone know of a solution of how to share applicaions or screens
with everyone through Flex?
I was thinking of using a third part piece of software and putting an
Iframe in the app. But if it can be done through Flex then it would be
better.

Thanks

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Screen / application Sharing

2006-09-25 Thread Paul Andrews
David,

I'm sure I'm missing some significant point.

Don't you just put it onto a server with a link to it?

What am I missing here? how can flex improve this sharing?

Paul
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:14 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex and Screen / application Sharing


Paul,
Im really only talking about someone being able to share something 
like a powerpoint presentation or something. Nothing too heavy.

Cheers

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Re: [flexcoders] How does a component communicate with the Application

2006-09-25 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] How does a component communicate with the Application


 I am trying to build a modular application (that means, with a lot of 
 components). I have a lot
 of common code that I would like to include ONCE in the application and 
 make available to
 all of the components.

Isn't that what classes are for?

 My question is how do I have a component access a function /
 variable that is in the main application?

A better approach (to avoid having sphagetti code) would be to use events 
for inter-component/application communication rather than invoking functions 
directly. Your components will not be reusable otherwise.

Paul

Thanks

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Re: [flexcoders] Can Flex 2.0 compile swf file for FP7?

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] Can Flex 2.0 compile swf file for FP7?


 Hi,all,
 I use Flex 2.0 sdk compile a sample project,the swf file generated by
 mxmlc.exe only can view in Flash Player 9.
 Is there any compile option can let it generate swf file for FP7?
 Thx. 

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Re: [flexcoders] is it possible to run background time consuming task in flex2?

2006-09-21 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: nevgeniev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 12:26 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] is it possible to run background time consuming task 
in flex2?



 Hi,

 Flex2/ActionScript programming model is singlethreaded, but it has
 asynchronous IO calls. This means that obviously AVM has threads to
 implement asyncIO.

 I need to perform some time consuming computations within actionscript,
 but I can't spawn new thread in AS. Hence the questions:

 1. can I somehow implement local service which will receive requests and
 post responses (events) to consume in GUI (event dispatch thread)? I
 mean reuse asynchronous IO implementation.

 2. back in windows 3.xx days (single threaded os) there was nested
 event loop approach so within computation loop I can call something
 like dispatchMessages() to prevent UI from lockup. Is it possible with
 flex?

Not that I know of. You might be able to kludge it using a timer to re-enter 
a routine to do some computation, then give up control, etc. It would 
probably seriously compromise the responsiveness of your application.

That kind of process is better suited to the server, where you could get 
back the results on completion.

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Re: [flexcoders] another state and targeting issue

2006-09-20 Thread Paul Andrews
How about firing off an event for the main application to pick up?

Paul
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Subject: [flexcoders] another state and targeting issue


i have a tree nav stored as a custom component, i drp it on my base 
 state and use it throught application. when i invoke method to  change 
 state it fails stating it cannot find it, if i paste the code for the 
 tree directly in my main application it works fine, but not as custom 
 componet, how do i back out of the component and target the states on 
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: another state and targeting issue

2006-09-20 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi Tim,

While that may work, should components even be aware of the states used in 
other parts of the application?

I'd suggest that to get truly modular components the component should be 
raising an event for the application to respond to and change it's own 
state, rather than have a component do this directly.

Paul

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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 11:14 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: another state and targeting issue


 Hi there,

 Your custom component is a child.  You can reference the main
 application (or parent) by using parentDocument.currentState or
 Application.application.currentState; depending on the scope.
 parentDocument doesn't require an import.  But Application.application
 requires: import mx.core.Application;.

 -TH

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 i have a tree nav stored as a custom component, i drp it on my base
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 change
 state it fails stating it cannot find it, if i paste the code for
 the
 tree directly in my main application it works fine, but not as
 custom
 componet, how do i back out of the component and target the states
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Flex - Database

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Flex - Database


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  Hi,
 
  I am new to flex, Can somebody please help me in
 
   how to connect to database through flex.
 
  Thanks in advance.
 

  Everybody has fought, but I didnt get proper answer from atleast one.

That's not  true. You may not have had the answer that you expected, but
your question was answered: Flex does not do native database access, a
server-side component is required (or a socket connection to those DBS that
support it).

 Please help me by guiding properly. If possible can somebody upload the
 samples.

Try spending some time on Adobe.com

Paul

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Re: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?


 Hello everybody ... I'm having a little problem ..

 The thing is that I have an application that shows a TabNavigator, a
 form inside it and two buttons a the bottom of the TabNavigator. Those
 buttons are simply previous/next buttons to go to the previous/next
 container in the TabNavigator. I need to block de event 'change' in
 the TabNavigator to make the user click the buttons rather than the
 tabs to navigate through the panels ...

 If anyone can help me, I'll thanks a lot !!

 Regards.-

 Javier.

If you don't want a tab to behave like a tab, shouldn't you be using
something else perhaps?

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Re: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:52 PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?


 What you can do is iterate through the TabNavigator's tabs and disable
 each of them. By disabling them, the change event will not get emitted.
 Use TabNavigator.getTabAt() and set the enabled property to false for
 each Tab.

 Now, when you disable a Tab, the Tab will assume the look of its
 disabled state (grayed out, etc). You probably want the Tab to look
 enabled even if it is disabled - in which case you'll have to change the
 Tab's disabledSkin.

 HTH -
 deepa

Horrors. It's really good making the user think (s)he can navigate the tabs,
then discover they can't. Is this really good practice?
Even with the disabled tabs - hey I completed the info, now it's become
invalid..

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Re: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Andrews





LOL tell that to the 'good UI practice' judge 
- you're an accomplice! ;-)

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Deepa 
  Subramaniam 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:18 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can I block 
  a TabNavigator ?
  
  
  Yes, I agree, its bad 
  design. The benefits of exposing tabs for browsing and then disabling them and 
  forcing the user to follow some other route to navigate through the container 
  makes no sense to me but I was just answering the poster’s initial question 
  J 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] 
  On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Monday, 
  September 18, 2006 12:45 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] How can I block 
  a TabNavigator ?
  
  
  
  
  - Original Message - From: "Deepa 
  Subramaniam" [EMAIL PROTECTED]comTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSent: 
  Monday, September 18, 2006 6:52 PMSubject: RE: [flexcoders] How can I 
  block a TabNavigator ? What you can do is iterate through the 
  TabNavigator's tabs and disable each of them. By disabling them, 
  the change event will not get emitted. Use 
  TabNavigator.getTabAt() and set the enabled property to false 
  for each Tab. Now, when you disable a Tab, the Tab 
  will assume the look of its disabled state (grayed out, etc). You 
  probably want the Tab to look enabled even if it is disabled - in 
  which case you'll have to change the Tab's 
  disabledSkin. HTH - deepaHorrors. It's really 
  good making the user think (s)he can navigate the tabs,then discover they 
  can't. Is this really good practice?Even with the disabled tabs - hey I 
  completed the info, now it's 
  becomeinvalid..Paul
   
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: How can I block a TabNavigator ?

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Andrews
Ultimately what determines if it is a good design is whether it works for 
the user rather than confuses them. People looking at tabs expect to be able 
to click on them.

I've been quite critical of the notion of forcing people through the tabs 
because it's breaking the tab metaphor. Personally I think that if you are 
going to use tabs to capture this information, you should let people fill in 
the tabs in the order they want and have a final 'submit' type control 
(outside the tabs) that only gets enabled when all of the requisite data has 
been set (perhaps an indicator on the tab to show which have been 
completed). I have great difficullty understanding how you can adopt a tab 
metaphor and force navigation through it with buttons and expect the user to 
understand it. If you have to do this kind of behaviour use a viewstack and 
use the buttons to move through that.

You've already mentioned using an accordion and that can work well. I wonder 
if the OP has considered using that?

Paul
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From: Tim Hoff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:47 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: How can I block a TabNavigator ?


 It's only bad design if it doesn't solve the individual use case.
 It's possible that Javier wants the same functionality as a self-
 guilded checkout, that uses an accordion control, but only allows
 the user to proceed to the next step after the current step has been
 successfully completed.  If that's the case Deepa, your earlier
 solution would fit the bill.

 -TH

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Deepa Subramaniam
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yes, I agree, its bad design. The benefits of exposing tabs for
 browsing
 and then disabling them and forcing the user to follow some other
 route
 to navigate through the container makes no sense to me but I was
 just
 answering the poster's initial question :-)



 

 From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Paul Andrews
 Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:45 PM
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: Re: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?



 - Original Message - 
 From: Deepa Subramaniam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:dsubrama%40adobe.com 
 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com mailto:flexcoders%
 40yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 6:52 PM
 Subject: RE: [flexcoders] How can I block a TabNavigator ?

  What you can do is iterate through the TabNavigator's tabs and
 disable
  each of them. By disabling them, the change event will not get
 emitted.
  Use TabNavigator.getTabAt() and set the enabled property to
 false for
  each Tab.
 
  Now, when you disable a Tab, the Tab will assume the look of its
  disabled state (grayed out, etc). You probably want the Tab to
 look
  enabled even if it is disabled - in which case you'll have to
 change
 the
  Tab's disabledSkin.
 
  HTH -
  deepa

 Horrors. It's really good making the user think (s)he can navigate
 the
 tabs,
 then discover they can't. Is this really good practice?
 Even with the disabled tabs - hey I completed the info, now it's
 become
 invalid..

 Paul








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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2.0 Hosting ( Cheap / Inexpensive )

2006-09-18 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 2.0 Hosting ( Cheap / Inexpensive )


 Hi all,

 Does anyone know of any cheap, inexpensive, or (highly doubt it)
 free :) Flex 2.0 hosting??

 Thanks,
 Bruce

Hosting Flex isn't a problem, it's FDS that's the problem. ;-)

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Re: [flexcoders] Data synchronisation tip and tricks?

2006-09-17 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Data synchronisation tip and tricks?


 On Thursday 14 September 2006 16:12, Jurgen Beck wrote:
  I see two solutions:

 I have actually seen the 2nd in use on (I think) ticketmaster - during
check
 out it told me the seats were reserved for 20 minutes, and if I hadn't
payed
 by then I'd lose them and they'd go back in the pool.

 You could probably calculate the chance of a collitsion based on the
length of
 time it takes to do a booking, how many customers there are (at once) and
how
 many seats there are.
 If the chance in low, and fairly simple 'soft reserve' like the above or
you
 option 2 is going to be best, I feel.
 OTOH, if collisions are going to be frequent, you want to be more
proactive to
 help the users out - but at the end of the day, two people might just
 press 'submit' at the same time, and one of them is going to get a rolled
 back transaction and 'please choose another seat'. The other party may
back
 out later, but there isn't much I think you can do about that.

Depending on the checkout process you can prevent the rollback altogether.
This all depends on how the checkout process black box works.

If the checkout process is a black box that can communicate back with the
ticketing system for confirmation that the product is still available:

Ticketing system marks seats as 'pending booking' and sets a timeout on this
status to protext the seats from booking.
Ticketing system passes request to the checkout process to get the money
from the user.
Checkout process processes everything, apart from requesting money from the
bank.
User presses 'submit' to confirm transaction and payment details.
Checkout process asks ticketing system to confirm transaction can proceed
and tells ticketing system how long it will need (max) to complete the
checkout process upon confirmation by the ticketing system.
Ticketing system checks that seats are still available and that timeout has
not elapsed.
If the timeout left on the seats is less than the time required to complete
the checkout (no more human involvement is now required) the timeout is
extended.
If the timeout has expired, the ticketing system will check that the seats
are still available to the requesting customer and will re-reserve the
seats, pending booking with enough of a timeout for the checkout process to
complete.
If the timeout has expired and the seats are no longer available the
ticketing system informs checkout to abort and not to take the customers
money, otherwise the ticketing system tells the checkout process to complete
the transaction.
The checkout process informs ticketing system of the result and the
ticketing system will update the seat status and interact with the customer
accordingly.

Paul

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex - Database

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Andrews
That's true, but there would be nothing to stop anyone building a data
access layer using actionscript that was separate to the view logic.
Currently the view logic will use FDS, or a web service/whatever to get the
data for the view, there's no logical reason why the fuctionality that
typically lives on the server couldn't reside in actionscript classes and
still retain independence from the view.

It's a separate argument whether you want that processing for performance
reasons to take place on the client or the server, but in terms of logically
separating layers there's no reason not to do that and have a very slim
database/persistence layer sitting on the server rather the full access
layer.

In essence, it's good that the current Flex facilities (almost) enforce the
separation, but even without that separation you can be a good developer and
not compromise the architecture.

Maybe I'll get flamed for this..

Paul
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 On Thursday 14 September 2006 16:02, Tracy Spratt wrote:
  If this functionality is the same as the SQLXML functionality I played
  with a year or so ago, SQL Server provides an url against which you can
  make SQL queries.

 Handy, but you really shouldn't be using it.
 The temptation then will be to keep your data access layer mixed up with
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex - Database

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Andrews
Ah, OK now we're talking about the security of a Flex/Flash app, and I take
your point. Is that always an issue on an intranet? perhaps not.
I guess that security is always going to force the layer split on the
internet (so you might as well do it anyway for the intranet).

I've spent too much time on intranet applications, forgetting about those
devious sorts out there..

Paul
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  typically lives on the server couldn't reside in actionscript classes
and
  still retain independence from the view.

 What happens if I decompile and alter the client, then recompile it ?

 Nothing the client does (or asks to be performed) should be trusted, which
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Re: [flexcoders] Current Time

2006-09-15 Thread Paul Andrews





In case you need to get the time and format it 
too..

mx:Style

 @font-face{
 
src:url("seven_segment.ttf");
 fontFamily: sevenSegment;
}
/mx:Style

mx:DateFormatter id="hrsMins" 
formatString="HH:MM" 
/mx:Script![CDATA[var 
timeNow:Date = new 
Date();]]/mx:Scriptmx:Label 
text="{hrsMins.format(timeNow)}" fontFamily="sevenSegment" 
fontSize="12"/

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  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2006 1:10 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Current 
  Time
  
  Presumably you mean using a seven segment 
  font?
  
  You can get a seven segment font here: http://www.twyman.org.uk/Fonts/
  copy the ttf to your project (I renamed the font to be 
  "seven-segment.ttf", rather than "7 segment.ttf");
  
  Embedd the font:
  
  mx:Style
   @font-face{
   
  src:url("seven_segment.ttf");
   fontFamily: 
sevenSegment;
  }
  /mx:Style
  
  Then
  
  mx:Label text="12:27" font-family="sevenSegment" 
  fontSize="12"/
  
  OK?
  
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex - Database

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Andrews
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:46 AM
Subject: [flexcoders] Flex - Database


 Hi,

 I am new to flex, Can somebody please help me in

  how to connect to database through flex.

 Thanks in advance.

Flex doesn't connect directly to a database. You will need to use a
server-side technology and communicate with it using:

Http service, Web service, Flex Data Service, etc. - just check out the
tutorials on the adobe site and all over the web.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex - Database

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Rogerio Gonzalez 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 2:00 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex - 
  Database
  
  You can connect "direct" to database with webservices in SQL2005 (end 
  points)Rogerio
  
How does this differ from webservices in general? What 
make it "Direct"?

I think the OP really wants to talk directly to a database 
and squirt SQL at it inside Flex.

Paul

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- Original Message - From: "Sudharshan Rao" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSent: Thursday, 
September 14, 2006 8:46 AMSubject: [flexcoders] Flex - 
Database Hi, I am new to flex, Can somebody 
please help me in  how to connect to database through 
flex. Thanks in advance.
Flex doesn't connect directly to a database. You will need to use 
aserver-side technology and communicate with it using:Http 
service, Web service, Flex Data Service, etc. - just check out 
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[flexcoders] Data synchronisation tip and tricks?

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Andrews
Most of the traffic conversation here seems to revolve around applications
that are essentially read-only or are behaving as though they are single
user.

Any tips and tricks to be found regarding the synchronisation of data in a
multi-user application involving a database.

For example (since hotel booking is a prominent example in the RIA world),
lets suppose I have two customers (Customer A and Cust B) trying to book the
same hotel room on the same day. Both see it as free in the RIA, Cust A
books it and now the other must know about it too, so effectively then
that's a straight refresh of Cust B display and the aborting of the booking
in progress.

Lets suppose my application allows Cust B to mark several days of room
bookings and (s)he has to hit 'book now' to commit to the booking. While
this is going on 'Cust A' has booked one of those days, so now I must merge
the updated database with the on-screen representation, so it's no longer a
straight replacement of the application display from the database, we're
having to merge.

Perhaps I'd best not even mention database locking and handling that in a
RIA.

Get the idea? I appreciate this isn't entirely Flex specific.

If there are tips and tricks/best practices in this area with regard to
Flex, I'd like to know about them before I re-invent the wheel!

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Data synchronisation tip and tricks?

2006-09-14 Thread Paul Andrews
To be honest, this is old-hat for database programmers, yet it's rarely
discussed in Flex/Flash circles and largely ignored in most web discussion.
Things tend to move up a notch in complexity once you have to consider
multiple users and databases.

Usually I tend to favour optimistic locking schemes on the database since
they don't cause problems with interactive users (send me a PM and I'll try
and explain it if you aren't already aware).

The real issue is that potentially with multiple users (with or without a
database) data can be changing data underfoot, so there are a few issues.

1) protecting data from unprotected updates that would lose or corrupt data;
2) keeping the user interface updated with changes made by other
users/processes (which means merging the new data with what's already
presented to the user)

Using flags in a database to indicate what's going on in the user interface
is to be avoided. The particular danger with flag setting in a database to
indicate what's happening in the user interface is that there will be cases
where the user interface will not complete it's work leaving the database
with flags set indicating some operation is happening when it isn't.

This could be a long discussion..

I was hoping for a few war stories or snappy techniques.

Paul
- Original Message - 
From: jbeck_sound [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 4:32 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Data synchronisation tip and tricks?


 Very good topic! I'm working on a RIA using Flex that deals with a
 similar situation for an online ticketing system. Imagine two or more
 folks selecting the same seat and wanting to purchase a ticket for it.
 Essentially this is collision bound, unless it is being handled carefully.

 I see two solutions:

 a) Use Flex Data Services and it's real-time features of updating
 clients with the latest status on a specific room (in your scenario).
 This will not completely eliminate the possibility that both customers
 want to book the room at the exact same time. However, it will cut it
 down quite significantly. Of course, there is some additional stuff
 going on that we would have to take into consideration.

 b) Use flags in the database records for each room as to its
 availability and return a response to a customer when the booking is
 committed. If someone else has beat them to it, then an error would be
 returned, eventually halting the rest of the transaction based on the
 fact that the room now is no longer available.

 This is a very birds-eye view of what would need to happen, at least
 in my mind. There may be other approaches and solutions to this
 problem and I would be interested to hear them!

 Jurgen

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Paul Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Most of the traffic conversation here seems to revolve around
 applications
  that are essentially read-only or are behaving as though they are single
  user.
 
  Any tips and tricks to be found regarding the synchronisation of
 data in a
  multi-user application involving a database.
 
  For example (since hotel booking is a prominent example in the RIA
 world),
  lets suppose I have two customers (Customer A and Cust B) trying to
 book the
  same hotel room on the same day. Both see it as free in the RIA, Cust A
  books it and now the other must know about it too, so effectively then
  that's a straight refresh of Cust B display and the aborting of the
 booking
  in progress.
 
  Lets suppose my application allows Cust B to mark several days of room
  bookings and (s)he has to hit 'book now' to commit to the booking. While
  this is going on 'Cust A' has booked one of those days, so now I
 must merge
  the updated database with the on-screen representation, so it's no
 longer a
  straight replacement of the application display from the database, we're
  having to merge.
 
  Perhaps I'd best not even mention database locking and handling that
 in a
  RIA.
 
  Get the idea? I appreciate this isn't entirely Flex specific.
 
  If there are tips and tricks/best practices in this area with regard to
  Flex, I'd like to know about them before I re-invent the wheel!
 
  Paul
 





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Re: [flexcoders] mxml escape character??

2006-09-12 Thread Paul Andrews





mx:Label text="\{\}"/

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  Subject: [flexcoders] mxml escape 
  character??
  
  
  I need to include the { and } 
  characters inside of an mxml tag’s argument value but mxml reads the { and } 
  as bindable. Is there a way to escape the { and } characters within the 
  quotes?
  
  
  


  

  
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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Can someone help me understand this price info and what I get for it?

2006-09-11 Thread Paul Andrews
I think the list price is more of an initial negotiation point rather than
set in stone tablets. There's no cost involved in talking your project over
with adobe and seeing how things turn out. I have yet to experience any
major vendor actually sell something to a big project and remain firm on
price. How good are your negotiating skills?

Paul

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Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 5:12 PM
Subject: [flexcoders] Re: Can someone help me understand this price info and
what I get for it?


 Thanks for the answer.  Not what I wanted to hear ;)

 Well I can't see us paying 80,000 (20k per cpu times 2 cpu's times 2
 servers)

 So that sell is out.

 David

 --- In flexcoders@yahoogroups.com, Matt Chotin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Per application means a conceptual application.  Each one of our
 samples
  is an application.  While the component explorer is made up of
 over 100
  small application.mxml files it is still conceptually 1 application
  because it's delivered through that one URL.
 
 
 
  So for departmental it doesn't matter how many CPUs you actually
 have,
  you are limited to 100 concurrent users across the whole cluster
 for a
  given application
  (section 3.1.2 in the EULA doesn't say per CPU it says per CPU
  group/cluster).  If you want to support more than 100 concurrent
 users
  you will need to use the enterprise license.
 
 
 
  HTH,
 
  Matt
 
 
 
  
 
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
  Behalf Of David Brown
  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:02 PM
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [flexcoders] Can someone help me understand this price
 info and
  what I get for it?
 
 
 
  Flex Data Services (Departmental license) : $6,000 per CPU, with a
  limit of 100 concurrent users per cluster
 
  Q3: How do you measure concurrent users in the Flex Data Services
  departmental license?
 
  A: Concurrent users will be counted by the number of unique IP
  connections to the CPU and/or CPU cluster
 
  We have two hardware load balanced servers both with two cpu's in
  them. They are not clustered in anyway.
 
  Does this mean I can have 200 concurrent users (100 for one server
 and
  100 for the other server) because each server has 2 cpu's and is
 12k
  each.
 
  Or does this mean that I can have 400 concurrent users (100 per cpu
  per box) so 2 cpus one server and 2 cpu's the other gives me 400?
 
  The EULA also reads:
  http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/AdobeFlexSDK-
 DataServices2_0.pd
  f#search=%22flex%20data%20services%20departmental%22
  http://www.adobe.com/products/eulas/pdfs/AdobeFlexSDK-
 DataServices2_0.p
  df#search=%22flex%20data%20services%20departmental%22
  About 100 per application per cpu.. But this is beyond me.
 
  Any help. Thanks
 
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Re: [flexcoders] Handling Login

2006-09-10 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] Handling Login


 Im trying to create a Login screen where I can save a user's session
 information, so I can retrieve that later and use it for some validations.
 Is there a way that I can save this info as a session that last even
 when the user closes the browser, and until he signs out?

If he closes the browser, how will (s)he log out?


 How would you recommend it should be handled? I'd love to see some
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Re: [flexcoders] Public getter, private setter?

2006-09-08 Thread Paul Andrews





Matt, what has made Adobe depart from what is standard 
behaviour in other languages. I'm having trouble understanding any reason for 
this than perhaps an implementation issue (ie, we would have preferred to 
support independent visibility but we preferred to get it out the door without 
delay, since this is a relatively minor issue).

Paul

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  Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 4:48 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Public getter, 
  private setter?
  
  
  It’s intentional 
  right now that a getter/setter pair must have a matching visibility modifier. 
  You can’t change whether a variable is visible to the compiler based on 
  whether it’s being read or being written. While we understand the 
  use-case (and debated it internally ourselves) this is the approach we’re 
  taking right now.
  
  Matt
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael SchmalleSent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 7:41 
  AMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Public getter, 
  private setter?
  
  
  
  
  Hi,Ironically, I just ran into this same issue 
  the other day.I had a post I didn't finish yesterday and what you just 
  wrote about Java style was what I was going to say I did. :)This is 
  just a guess but, I would be willing to bet this is a Player bug. If 
  you think about the error, it is the same error you would get if you 
  hadpublic function get height():Numberandpublic var 
  height:Number;... ambiguousSo, I would bet this will be 
  working, right around the time they make private constructors. ;-) 
  Peace, Mikeprivate var _loadedState:int = 
  ConfigModelLocator.LOAD_STATE_UNLOADED;[Bindable(event="loadStateChanged")] 
  public function get loadState():int{return 
  _loadedState;}private function set 
  loadState(state:int):void{_loadedState = 
  state;this.dispatchEvent(new Event("loadStateChanged")); 
  }
  
  On 9/7/06, thunderstumpgesatwork  
  thunder.stumpges@gmail.com 
  wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  Just wondering why I can't declare a 
  property getter as public, andthe property setter as protected or 
  private?When I do so, I get "1000 Ambiguous reference to 
  loadState"Any work-arounds? I want to have the setter so that I can 
  raise theproperty change event when I set the state, but I'd rather not 
  make itpublic.thanks.Thundersee code:private 
  var _loadedState:int = 
  ConfigModelLocator.LOAD_STATE_UNLOADED;[Bindable(event="loadStateChanged")] 
  public function get loadState():int{return 
  _loadedState;}private function set 
  loadState(state:int):void{_loadedState = 
  state;this.dispatchEvent(new Event("loadStateChanged")); 
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Training/Tutorials

2006-09-07 Thread Paul Andrews
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From: Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED]

snip

 This was phenomenal too:

 http://www.totaltraining.com/prod/adobe/flex2_ria.asp

Just like to say that UK developers can get this directly in the UK from 
http://www.cvision.co.uk/ .

I'm not affiliated to this company except as a customer, but they do stock 
the flex training, but it's not
yet on their website..

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Re: [flexcoders] Cairngormstore for flex 2

2006-09-05 Thread Paul Andrews





Same here!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Carlos 
  Rovira 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 11:00 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Cairngormstore 
  for flex 2
  Many Thanks Andrew! :)
  On 9/5/06, Andrew 
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Hi all,

Just to let you know I have released 
CairngormStore for flex 2. It can be reached at http://weblogs.macromedia.com/arayne. We should have it up on Labs shortly but wanted to get it out as 
quickly as possible as it has been promised for a while now. 
Enjoy.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2, is here the right place?

2006-09-02 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 2, is here the right place?


 Hi flexers!
 
 Is here the right place to ask and discuss Flex 2 and AS 3, or you
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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 2, getting slower as code grows

2006-08-31 Thread Paul Andrews





Is that 1,700 lines of code in one 
file?

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Nel 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:42 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Builder 2, 
  getting slower as code grows
  switch off incremental compilation. build when you need it, or 
  deploy to a seperate server and build there
  On 8/29/06, j_sevlie  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Is 
there some kind of coding limitation on how much Flex Builder can handle 
before it gets completely unusable?I'm currently working on a rather 
complicated project that's sittingat about 1,700 lines of code, and the 
code editor in Flex Builder isgetting painfully slow to work 
with.If I just start typing anything I can watch my CPU 
spike to 100% and sit there until I'm done typing.I still need to 
use Design mode because it's *awesome* for liningeverything 
up.Is this a case where I'm just going to have to find away 
to break everything up into smaller components?About 70% of 
the1,700 lines is all Actionscript.I've got a P4 with 2 GB of 
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Re: [flexcoders] Architecture question

2006-08-30 Thread Paul Andrews





OK, interesting stuff!

It's not clear from your description how a given 
user would choose the right application build for them.

I can see two possibilities.

1) A flex front end loads a menu (from a web 
service) offering a list of application builds to the user (I suppose this might 
change for different users, or even just be a single choice for each user?). The 
application UI specifics are then loaded into the flex app and the UI 
reconfigured.

2) A flex front end loads a menu (as before) but 
instead of reconfiguring the UI, executes a separate pre-compiled swf that 
implements the appropriate UI. The pre-compiled swf would have been created when 
the desktop app
generated the configuration info, it would then 
translate the generated configuration to mxml, invoke the compiler to generate 
the swf and add the swf reference to the list of apps offered to the 
user.

Both these options would provide a fairly seamless 
experience for the user, with the only delays being experienced (not by the end 
user) when generating a new UI using the desktop app.

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jeremy Merritt 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 1:08 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Architecture 
  question
  Thanks for the input Paul.The desktop application is a 
  tool to build dynamic models of systems and author an interface for others to 
  interact with the model. The interface consist of input objects, 
  (sliders, knobs, input fields, etc), and outputs like graphs and table. 
  A dashboard or sorts to run the simulation. If an author of such models 
  wishes to share the model with others, currently they need to direct the user 
  to download a "player" version of the software to interact with the model. 
  The application we want to build will allow the author to upload their 
  work to a website where they can share the interface of their model with 
  others. An online "player", if you will, that will only require the 
  end-user to have a web browser with the Flash Player installed. That 
  said, it's not unreasonable to have the author do the conversion from the 
  desktop file format into a SWF in a conversion application. I'm leaning 
  toward this approach, because the final SWF would only need to interact with 
  the web service to actually run the model, and record the end-users input 
  decisions. I hope this clarifies things. I welcome others 
  feedback on the pro/cons of this approach vs a dynamically created 
  interface.Thanks,Jeremy
  On 8/29/06, Paul 
  Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  







- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Jeremy Merritt 
  To: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:16 PM
  Subject: 
  [flexcoders] Architecture question
  
  Hi all,I would like some feedback from the group collective 
  about the approach I'm thinking about taking to implementing an 
  application using Flex for the UI.There is an existing desktop 
  application and the goal of the new application is to be able to run the 
  files created by the desktop app in a web browser. We've already got 
  the guts of the desktop app implemented as a web service -- now we need to 
  add UI. So here is the question: the files output by the desktop 
  app have XML that marks up the interface, complete with x and y 
  coordinates. What would work best? - To have a generic MXML 
  file that uses ActionScript to parse the XML and create the components 
  needed for the UI on the fly and lay them out according to the XML markup 
  - or-- To create a conversion utility that creates an MXML 
  file based on the desktop app's XML and then invoke the Flex compiler to 
  output an SWF. This approach would require me to redistribute the 
  Flex SDK, which seems to be okay according to the license. I'm 
  leaning toward the latter option as it puts the burden of figuring out the 
  layout of the UI and all that jazz on the conversion utility. The 
  resultant SWF would then just communicate with the web service and run the 
  app. What are your thoughts on this?
  

Well, I'm really curious as to what it is that 
needs a dynamic interface to be built like this.

My first thought was(as you suggest) to 
go with an xml transformation to mxml if the UI doesn't need to be rebuilt 
every single time, but I'm wary about what the user experience would be - 
there would be a delay in doing the transformation and then compiling then 
invoking a swf. There may be a better user experience by running a swf, then 
reading and interpreting the xml. In the second situation, there's no 
recompile andtransformation overhead.

Essentially your application is reading an xml 
configuration file from the web servi

Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline

2006-08-30 Thread Paul Andrews





Jack,

I don't think you appreciate what a nightmare that 
would be for any development company. The sheer overhead of doing what you 
suggest would be immense. I don't know of a software company of any kind that 
operates like that. I think you've had the wrong position for 27 
years..

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jack 
  Caldwell 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:59 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch 
  timeline
  
  Jeff:
  
  I fully understood what Matt was saying. That's 
  just it . . . . it is not a top priority.
  
  The issue is that Adobe is fixing the bugs, but not 
  releasing them.
  
  We as developers have to try to figure it out then call 
  support, etc. That could take
  hours or days of my time. It's wasted time and 
  money.
  
  I am like you, I don't have a large support staff 
  either.
  
  My position, for over 27 years,has always been . . 
  . . find a bug send ALL customers 
  a fix ASAP. Not waiting for a customer to 
  call me.
  
  Again, in the first 6-9 months after a major release, I 
  think there should be a different
  release plan in place.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jack
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff 
  TapperSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:32 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com; flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: RE: 
  [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline
  
  
  Jack-I think you misunderstand what Matt said. He didn't say 
  they aren't working on fixes, he said it hasnt been their top priority. 
  If you have an issue, he recommended you contact their support team. 
  I have said this before, but I 
  would not have a single customer if I told them I could not fix the software 
  they purchased because I was working on another 
  version.Again, its not an issue of not being able to fix bugs, 
  many companies have a process in place to allow for handling their customers 
  needs. In the adobe case, if something isnt working as you would expect, 
  there is the support channel. drop them an email or give them a call, 
  and they can help solve the issue you are having. They are the ones who 
  are best able to determine if you are doing something wrong, or if its a bug 
  in the code which needs to be fixed. I wouldnt be at all surprised if 
  their were a number of minor patches available through the support 
  channels. I dont know that there are, but if I were them, and I had a 
  few fixes to specific bugs that havent been reported by the community at 
  large, but instead by a few customers, I would probably give the fixes as 
  needed, rather than make a whole new big push. Then again, thats just my 
  thought process. Sadly, I dont have a whole support team working for me, 
  so i need to deal with bugs in my code as they crop up.At 03:18 PM 
  8/30/2006, Jack Caldwell wrote:
  Matt or anyone else at Adobe.I agree that the quality of Flex Builder 2 is good . . 
. . very good . . . . however . . . .I know nothing will probably change since Adobe is the 
big software company, and I am only a single customer(Flex Builder 2 
w/charting), but this position disturbs me.It reminds me of the construction industry 
when a contractor builds or remodels my house. I have paid for the 
work and I find problems but the contractor is off working on another house 
and doesn't have the time or resources to fix the problems in a timely 
manner.To be 
honest, I could care less about a Mac version . . . . AND I know those 
wanting a Mac version could care less about a Windows version. So 
please no bashing from the Mac side.It appears that Adobe has not allocated enough 
resources to the development team where they can have 2 groups. As 
I recall, it was said on this forum, soon after Flex 2 was released the 
development teamreceived new Macs to begin work on a Mac 
version.Why did 
Adobe not already have a plan and resources in place. This type of 
thing is done all the time.While I do not expect that every single bug be issued a 
"release patch", it would be very nice and customer friendly to have a 
bug fix release plan in place and implement that plan. Especially in 
the first 6-9 months ofa major release.I haven't encountered a bug that I know 
of. But when I do, I will probably have spent many hours or days 
thinking I did not write the code right only to find out later is was a 
bug. Wasted time . . . . money.I have said this before, but I would not have a single 
customer if I told them I could not fix the software they purchased 
because I was working on another version.I really do not understand why large 
software companies employ this type of bug fix and update 
plan.I only hope 
Adobe will rethink their strategy and implementation of releasing bug 
fixes.My .02 or 
actually $ 749 for Flex Builder 2 w/charting.Thanks,Jack

 

Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline

2006-08-30 Thread Paul Andrews





Jack,

I suspect that you don't run a company of quite the 
same size of Adobe. 

f you have one or two customers you can just issue 
a fix as soon as you've done QA. When you have thousands you have major 
distribution and support overheads that get more costly as you go 
on.

It's not a question of knowing how to plan, it's 
big number logistics.

Your not the only one whose been in software 
development for 27 yearseither..

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jack 
  Caldwell 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:10 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch 
  timeline
  
  Paul:
  
  Well . . . . . I must be doing something right . . . . 
  for 27 years.
  
  If you read my post completely I said I did not expect 
  Adobe to be as quick
  on fixes as I have been.
  
  It 
  would only be a nightmare, if they did not plan properly.
  
  Maybe I just know how to plan and implement at a faster 
  pace.
  
  But 
  thanks just the same.
  
  Jack
  
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:55 PMTo: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch 
  timeline
  
  
  
  Jack,
  
  I don't think you appreciate what a nightmare 
  that would be for any development company. The sheer overhead of doing what 
  you suggest would be immense. I don't know of a software company of any kind 
  that operates like that. I think you've had the wrong position for 27 
  years..
  
  Paul
  
- Original Message - 
From: Jack 
Caldwell 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:59 
PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch 
timeline

Jeff:

I fully understood what Matt was saying. That's 
just it . . . . it is not a top priority.

The issue is that Adobe is fixing the bugs, but not 
releasing them.

We as developers have to try to figure it out then call 
support, etc. That could take
hours or days of my time. It's wasted time and 
money.

I am like you, I don't have a large support staff 
either.

My position, for over 27 years,has always been . 
. . . find a bug send ALL customers 
a fix ASAP. Not waiting for a customer to 
call me.

Again, in the first 6-9 months after a major release, I 
think there should be a different
release plan in place.

Thanks,

Jack


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff 
TapperSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:32 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com; 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 
patch timeline


Jack-I think you misunderstand what Matt said. He didn't 
say they aren't working on fixes, he said it hasnt been their top 
priority. If you have an issue, he recommended you contact their 
support team. I have 
said this before, but I would not have a single customer if I told them I 
could not fix the software they purchased because I was working on 
another version.Again, its not an issue of not being able to 
fix bugs, many companies have a process in place to allow for handling their 
customers needs. In the adobe case, if something isnt working as you 
would expect, there is the support channel. drop them an email or give 
them a call, and they can help solve the issue you are having. They 
are the ones who are best able to determine if you are doing something 
wrong, or if its a bug in the code which needs to be fixed. I wouldnt 
be at all surprised if their were a number of minor patches available 
through the support channels. I dont know that there are, but if I 
were them, and I had a few fixes to specific bugs that havent been reported 
by the community at large, but instead by a few customers, I would probably 
give the fixes as needed, rather than make a whole new big push. Then 
again, thats just my thought process. Sadly, I dont have a whole 
support team working for me, so i need to deal with bugs in my code as they 
crop up.At 03:18 PM 8/30/2006, Jack Caldwell wrote:
Matt or anyone else at Adobe.I agree that the quality of Flex Builder 2 is good . 
  . . . very good . . . . however . . . .I know nothing will probably change since 
  Adobe is the big software company, and I am only a single 
  customer(Flex Builder 2 w/charting), but this position disturbs 
  me.It reminds 
  me of the construction industry when a contractor builds or remodels my 
  house. I have paid for the work and I find problems but the 
  contractor is off working on another house and doesn't have the time 
  or resources to fix the problems in a timely 
  manner.To be 
  honest, I could care less about a Mac version . . . . 

Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline

2006-08-30 Thread Paul Andrews





Jack,

You're welcome to express your opinions, even if 
they aren't the same as mine.

Opinions are good.

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jack 
  Caldwell 
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:50 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch 
  timeline
  
  Paul:
  
  I have 200+ customers.
  
  But as I said before, this isn't going to change 
  anything, so in the future
  I will just keep my opinions to 
  myself.
  
  Thanks for your opinion.
  
  Jack
  
  
  From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 4:40 PMTo: flexcoders@yahoogroups.comSubject: 
  Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch timeline
  
  
  
  Jack,
  
  I suspect that you don't run a company of quite 
  the same size of Adobe. 
  
  f you have one or two customers you can just 
  issue a fix as soon as you've done QA. When you have thousands you have major 
  distribution and support overheads that get more costly as you go 
  on.
  
  It's not a question of knowing how to plan, it's 
  big number logistics.
  
  Your not the only one whose been in software 
  development for 27 yearseither..
  
  Paul
  
- Original Message - 
From: Jack 
Caldwell 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 10:10 
PM
Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 patch 
timeline

Paul:

Well . . . . . I must be doing something right . . . . 
for 27 years.

If you read my post completely I said I did not expect 
Adobe to be as quick
on fixes as I have been.

It 
would only be a nightmare, if they did not plan 
properly.

Maybe I just know how to plan and implement at a faster 
pace.

But thanks just the same.

Jack



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
[mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul 
AndrewsSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:55 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 
patch timeline



Jack,

I don't think you appreciate what a nightmare 
that would be for any development company. The sheer overhead of doing what 
you suggest would be immense. I don't know of a software company of any kind 
that operates like that. I think you've had the wrong position for 27 
years..

Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jack 
  Caldwell 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 8:59 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 
  patch timeline
  
  Jeff:
  
  I fully understood what Matt was saying. That's 
  just it . . . . it is not a top priority.
  
  The issue is that Adobe is fixing the bugs, but not 
  releasing them.
  
  We as developers have to try to figure it out then 
  call support, etc. That could take
  hours or days of my time. It's wasted time and 
  money.
  
  I am like you, I don't have a large support staff 
  either.
  
  My position, for over 27 years,has always been 
  . . . . find a bug send ALL customers 
  a fix ASAP. Not waiting for a customer to 
  call me.
  
  Again, in the first 6-9 months after a major release, 
  I think there should be a different
  release plan in place.
  
  Thanks,
  
  Jack
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com 
  [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeff 
  TapperSent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:32 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.com; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ups.comSubject: RE: [flexcoders] Flex 2 
  patch timeline
  
  
  Jack-I think you misunderstand what Matt said. He didn't 
  say they aren't working on fixes, he said it hasnt been their top 
  priority. If you have an issue, he recommended you contact their 
  support team. I have 
  said this before, but I would not have a single customer if I told them I 
  could not fix the software they purchased because I was working on 
  another version.Again, its not an issue of not being able 
  to fix bugs, many companies have a process in place to allow for handling 
  their customers needs. In the adobe case, if something isnt working 
  as you would expect, there is the support channel. drop them an 
  email or give them a call, and they can help solve the issue you are 
  having. They are the ones who are best able to determine if you are 
  doing something wrong, or if its a bug in the code which needs to be 
  fixed. I wouldnt be at all surprised if their were a number of minor 
  patches available through the support channels. I dont know that 
  there are, but if I were them, and I had a few fixes to specific bugs that 
  havent been reported by the community at large, but 

Re: [flexcoders] Architecture question

2006-08-29 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Jeremy Merritt 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:16 
  PM
  Subject: [flexcoders] Architecture 
  question
  
  Hi all,I would like some feedback from the group collective about 
  the approach I'm thinking about taking to implementing an application using 
  Flex for the UI.There is an existing desktop application and the goal 
  of the new application is to be able to run the files created by the desktop 
  app in a web browser. We've already got the guts of the desktop app 
  implemented as a web service -- now we need to add UI. So here is the 
  question: the files output by the desktop app have XML that marks up the 
  interface, complete with x and y coordinates. What would work best? 
  - To have a generic MXML file that uses ActionScript to parse the XML 
  and create the components needed for the UI on the fly and lay them out 
  according to the XML markup - or-- To create a conversion 
  utility that creates an MXML file based on the desktop app's XML and then 
  invoke the Flex compiler to output an SWF. This approach would require 
  me to redistribute the Flex SDK, which seems to be okay according to the 
  license. I'm leaning toward the latter option as it puts the burden of 
  figuring out the layout of the UI and all that jazz on the conversion 
  utility. The resultant SWF would then just communicate with the web 
  service and run the app. What are your thoughts on this?
  
Well, I'm really curious as to what it is that 
needs a dynamic interface to be built like this.

My first thought was(as you suggest) to go 
with an xml transformation to mxml if the UI doesn't need to be rebuilt every 
single time, but I'm wary about what the user experience would be - there would 
be a delay in doing the transformation and then compiling then invoking a swf. 
There may be a better user experience by running a swf, then reading and 
interpreting the xml. In the second situation, there's no recompile 
andtransformation overhead.

Essentially your application is reading an xml 
configuration file from the web service, then configuring itself.

Paul

  Thanks,Jeremy 
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Re: [flexcoders] Display XML file contents - HELP

2006-08-18 Thread Paul Andrews
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 On Friday 18 August 2006 07:06, rashmi_nraj wrote:
 But I am not sure how to access the XML object in the .as file using
 the Class object. I am not sure about how to get a reference to that
 XML object.

 Declare it public:
 public var myThing;
 just after the 'public class' line.

Better still write a getter function and don't make it public..


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Re: [flexcoders] Problem to change states

2006-08-18 Thread Paul Andrews





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  Subject: [flexcoders] Problem to change 
  states
  
  How do I change a State from a component to application?
  
  
Shouldn't your component be sending an event for 
the application to respond to rather than trying to change the state of the 
application?

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: decimal numbers in financial applications

2006-08-17 Thread Paul Andrews

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Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: decimal numbers in financial applications


 At that point you are looking at full table scan to update single
 record - and it might be much worse problem then loosing one cent on
 rounding.

On the other hand, the application I was working on dealt with a 
 service
 model that involved tenths or hundredths of a penny per transaction, and
 added up hundreds of thousands of transactions on a typical page of 
 data,
 so losing a penny to a rounding error would've been a very serious 
 problem.
 It really depends on the nature of the app and just how precise you need 
 the
 numbers to be.

These situations are where a properly abstracted business logic layer
 comes in handy. When fully seperated from the display layer, all the
 calculations take place in a single language/platform and all precisions
 issues can be dealt with at one time, hopefully in a single place in the
 code. Depending on the nature and purpose of the app that kind of 
 precision
 may not be required, but it still makes it a lot easier to fix precision
 issues when they come up if your logic is all handled in one place.

I guess what I'm saying is it depends on the app. ;-)

You are absolutely right. I've seen this problem (years ago) on an 
application where the UI was client server and
the reporting was done separtely on the server (different software to the 
client). It can be rather problematic
seeing one thing on screen and something different in a printed invoice or 
report (no matter how small the difference).

For some reason the customer/users start losing faith in the software..

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[flexcoders] Cainrgorm/Flex 2 document

2006-08-10 Thread Paul Andrews
Hi,

I've just been told of a document ( 
http://www.digimmersion.com/support/Flex%20UI%20Design%20For%20Cairngorm.pdf 
 ) describing one way to go with Cairngorm/flex when developing 
applications. It might be interesting for those finding their feet with 
Cairngorm and/or Flex 2.

The document does describe a process that includes using the visio template 
that they sell. Either way, I don't think it matters much - I found it an 
interesting read and anyone can pick up or ignore any of the techniques 
described.

I should say now that I have no connection with digimmersion 
(www.digimmersion.com) except as a happy customer.

That's it.

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex 2 and Access Databases

2006-08-06 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] Flex 2 and Access Databases


 Hi.

 I'm a rookie about Flex.

 Can I connect my Flex 2 application to my Access Database on the
 server?

No and Yes.

Flex does not have any facilities for accessing databases directly. 
Server-side software is required for the
Flex client to communicate with. The server side software could be Java, 
PHP, ASP, RoR, a web service, etc returning data to the Flex Client and 
interacting with the database.

So yes, you could access Access using flex2, but only by writing a 
server-side software layer to do that interaction for Flex2. Flex doesn't do 
direct database access.

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[flexcoders] Flex 2 documentation set

2006-08-05 Thread Paul Andrews
Anyone know if the Flex2 Documentation set will be made available for 
purchase? I have a love hate relationship with PDFs!

Thanks,

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window

2006-08-01 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window


 Depends.  The spinning watch is what we use 100% of the time; that's the
 default cursor that still allows you to click around.  However, for some
 interfaces where you DON'T want the user to click anything and need to 
 force
 them to wait, modality works great; it's why they gave us modality, for
 those use cases.

Well, there's modality and there's modality.

No way out Modality:

Modality where I'm stuck with waiting for something to run that I caused 
accidentally to happen and is going to take some time, or I'm waiting for a 
response from some web service that's either not going to reply or take five 
minutes. I'm only left with closing the browser window as a way forward. 
Really bad.

The operation is wholly on the client so the application is completely under 
control without reliance on outside services. This is better because there's 
little chance of the scenario above.

Ok you can cancel Modality:

My operation is going to take two minutes, but the boss says we have to 
leave for the airport now. I need to cancel.


Having worked for years on a proprietary system with synchronous SQL 
queries, I know how hated modal/synchronous panels can be.

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Re: [flexcoders] Re: Simple way to do Please wait... type window

2006-07-31 Thread Paul Andrews
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 One way I did it was making a Singleton class that popups up a small
 TitleWindow.  This TitleWindow has a ProgressBar in it.  The ProgressBar's
 indeterminate is bound to the visibility (you don't want it playing while
 the window is invisible; takes up resources).  You can then do:

 WaitWindow.showProgress(Loading...);

 Inside, it'll create a popup if none exists, and put the text in there.
 It's modal by default.  You can then later go:

 WaitWindow.remove();

 And if one exists, it'll remove it.  Subsequent calls to showProgress 
 merely
 update the text.  You can use this for changed commands.

Are modal windows really a good way to go with this? It seems to me to be a 
step backward when you are stopping the user from doing anything whilst data 
is loading. What happens if the load is particularly slow, fails, or was 
accidentally initiated and the user changes their mind?

Seems to me that modal progress windows just go completely against the idea 
of an asynchronous event driven architecture.

Paul

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Re: [flexcoders] stop mailing list

2006-07-27 Thread Paul Andrews
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i want to stop my mailing list, because my final
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Reading to the bottom of the list emails, might be an idea..

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Re: [flexcoders] Can someone explain this code, its related to Cairngorm?

2006-07-27 Thread Paul Andrews

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Subject: [flexcoders] Can someone explain this code, its related to 
Cairngorm?


 Hi,

 I am trying to understand the ModelLocator and how Cairngorm works.
 I have been reading, but I think I need some additional information
 on the code below if possible.

 1. What is the difference between Public function and Public Static
 function.   I assume Public functions can be called from anywhere in
 the application.  But what about the public static

When something is declared as static there can only be one class instance. 
There's no need to instantiate the class as an object in order to call a 
static function or access a public static member.


 2. Any info about the ModelLocator would be helpful.

 [Bindable]
 public class ModelLocator implements
 com.adobe.cairngorm.model.ModelLocator

This is the interface the class implements

 {
 private static var
 modelLocator:code.model.ModelLocator;

A class (static) variable for use by a class (static) function.

 public static function getInstance() :
 code.model.ModelLocator

Call this to get the instance of the ModelLocator.

 {
 if ( modelLocator == null )

If the ModelLocator has never been instantiated then create it, otherwise 
return it.
This inforces that only one ModelLocator instance exists - a singleton.

 modelLocator = new
 code.model.ModelLocator();

 return modelLocator;
}

 //---
 --

public function ModelLocator()

This is the Class constructor. If this is called and the reference to the 
ModelLocator exists then something has gone wrong - the constructor is 
called by the static function above. If the constructor is called twice 
there's a problem - there can only be one ModelLocator.

{
if ( code.model.ModelLocator.modelLocator !=
 null )
 throw new Error( Only one
 ModelLocator instance should be instantiated );
}

 //---
 --

 public function initialise() : void
 {
 }

 Thanks,

 Malik



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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2

2006-07-26 Thread Paul Andrews
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Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2


 How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
 Like this:

 for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
 {
 var myVar_i:String = new String();
 }

 Any idea?

var myVar:Array = new Array();
for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
{
myVar[i]  = new String();
}






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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2

2006-07-26 Thread Paul Andrews

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 Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:58 PM
 Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2


 How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
 Like this:

 for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
 {
 var myVar_i:String = new String();
 }

 Any idea?

 var myVar:Array = new Array();
 for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)

Oops..  for (var i:uint=0; i 10; i++)

 {
 myVar[i]  = new String();
 }






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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2

2006-07-26 Thread Paul Andrews

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 Subject: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2


 How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
 Like this:

 for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
 {
 var myVar_i:String = new String();
 }

 Any idea?

 var myVar:Array = new Array();
 for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
 {
 myVar[i]  = new String();
 }






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Re: [flexcoders] Create variables dynamic in Flex 2

2006-07-26 Thread Paul Andrews
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 But i dont want to use an array. I would like to create those vars on the
 fly.

I don't really see what the difference would be apart from the syntax. 
Referring to myVar1..  myVar10 will still mean that you have to fabricate 
the name dynamically. There's really no difference between doing that and 
having myVar[1].. myVar[10], or the altenatives mentioned by others.

Why do you want to do this specifically this way?

Paul


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 Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 2:58 PM
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 How can I create in a loop variables dynamicly?
 Like this:

 for (var i:uint=0; i == 10; i++)
 {
 var myVar_i:String = new String();
 }

 Any idea?

 var myVar:Array = new Array();
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 myVar[i]  = new String();
 }






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[flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews
My wife works in education and her school subscribes to a remote service 
that supplies web based information via the internet. When it works they 
love it but it's gotten a pretty awful nickname for the times it doesn't or 
is just plain slow.

The important point here is that it's a good application, supplied from a 
remote server, but seen as unreliable either due to internet connectivity 
problems or speed.

Forgetting the speed problem (there's usually ways to sort that out), I 
wondered how people are using Flex as a remotely served application. Are 
there good strategies to mitigate connection problems and how do companies 
react to the idea of remotely served applications that are 
important/critical to the business?

Is the critical desktop application where Flex cannot go (except perhaps by 
in-house intranet)?

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Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  hank williams 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] A general Flex 
  application deployment question..
  
  I dont quite understand. Arent *all* flex applications remotely served? 
  Isnt that what it means to have an application on the internet? Perhaps you 
  could explain what scenario you are thinking about where a flex app isnt 
  remote? RegardsHank
Hi Hank,

The scenario I was thinking about primarily is 
where applications are served on an intranet. In this case the health of the 
intranet and any server connected to it is usually/often under the jurisdiction 
of the company using the application, so any infrastructure problems are, in the 
main, in-house.

A web application may then be very similar to a 
desktop one, because desktop applications in a company environment are often 
reliant on a healthy network/servers in order to function (network shares, 
database connectivity, network security, etc.).

In this way, intranet deployed Flex applications 
have very similar deployment risks/vulnerabilities to desktop apps (but none of 
the desktop installation hassle).

All this contrasts with loading a Flex App from a 
remote server where you may not have control of the infrastructure between the 
desktop and remote server, neither may you have control over the remote server 
and it's local infrastructure.

I hope that explains my view a bit 
better.

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Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews





- Original Message - 

  From: 
  hank williams 
  
  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 4:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] 
  [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..
  
  On 7/23/06, Shannon 
  Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  


Flex, in 
it's present form, does not handle connectivity issues 
well.
  I'm not sure exactly what you mean by this. I have no problem 
  "connecting" to flash/flex apps. Of course if the internet connection is down 
  then things wont work, but that's not a flex issue.
  
But it is an issue for a Flex application, as 
opposed to a desktop one.

  
  


While 
it's possible to do, Flex can't save anything to the user's local hard 
drive, so "saved" information is only saved while the browser window is 
open.
  Actually, flash has local sharedObjects that allow an application to 
  save data locally.
  
  


Maybe 
some clever Flash guru can make me eat my words :)

However, 
if I understand correctly, Adobe's upcoming technology, Apollo, will allow 
for this sort of thing (a flex-built desktop app with limited / occasional 
connections to the server).
  I'm not sure he was concerned about occasional connections to the 
  server. He simply said remotely served application.
  
LOL, well HE (ie me) wasn't just thinking in 
terms of just serving the application, they still need to talk back to base to 
get and update data.

I think we're all reasonably aware of what the 
technology can do. What I was particularly intersted in any experiences of 
actually selling/building/deploying a Flex app in places where a traditional 
desktop environment has been. Was there resistance to the idea? Were people 
concerned about vulnerability of net connections and did you do anything to 
mitigate those fears/put in place a standby? 

Paul


  


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Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Hank,

I'm not arguing about the trend, just asking what's going on practically 
with Flex developers.

Paul


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Whatever anecdotal stories you might hear here, the more accurate reflection 
of what is going on is the broad discussion of this issue in the tech press.

Regards
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Re: [Junk E-Mail - MED] [flexcoders] A general Flex application deployment question..

2006-07-23 Thread Paul Andrews
Hank,

Your comments are perfectly reasonable (and I'm not sure that any answer 
would be satisfying).

I've spent most of my life working in large company/corporate environments. 
From my experience, some companies will embrace the trend we've been talking 
about and have no problem with infrastructure (as you say). These companies 
weren't the focus of my question.

Next come large companies for which infrastructure may or may not be there 
(I have worked on very large projects where the only link to a customer site 
has been via dial-up). Even large companies might not embrace the trend, but 
might have been won over by our flexcoder friends.

Lastly, and probably the real focus of my query is putting Flex into a 
company that doesn't have a big budget IT department or infrastructure, and 
here there are the barriers I talked about - loss of connectivity (and 
functionality) of a business critical App. Some of our flecoder friends 
might have some interesting ideas/stories here.

So carry on commenting - I'm not arguing about the trend!

Paul



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Paul,

Sorry Paul. I feel like I am derailing your question and that is not my 
intent. But I did think that this was a trend question.

how do companies react to the idea of remotely served applications that are
important/critical to the business?

I realize that my answer isnt exactly what you want to hear, but my 
experience is that there is not much of an issue and there are few problems 
with company's implementing remote applications. Perhaps unlike your wife's 
school, in corporate environments, internet connection is like telephone 
service. It is critical, and companies are used to depending on it being 
available. I dont have any anecdotes because I have never heard anyone say 
what you are asking.  I have heard horror stories with in-house 
installations that have caused people to move to remote applications. I'm 
sure there are some circumstances where your concern is an issue (like 
securities and banking) but by and large I dont think its an issue.

At this point I fully realize this is not a satisfying answer based on the 
perspective you are coming from, but I just wanted to be clear, FWIW. I'll 
shut up now:)

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Re: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing question

2006-07-22 Thread Paul Andrews





So does an intel "two-in-one" processor still count 
as a single CPU?

Paul

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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 5:30 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Flex Pricing 
  question
  One application means one flex application. So if you develop 
  something in Flex 2, once you compile it it becomes a Flex application. One 
  application means you can have one such application running 
  FDS.However you can still have as many applications on a server as you 
  want if they're not using FDS. 
  On 7/22/06, Jorge 
  Tejada  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  





What "One application" means?, Does it means that I will only can use FDS 
from a Flex Builder 2 Project?

On 7/21/06, Nick 
Collins  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
  the Eclipse plugin is the same cost as Flex Builder. As far as that 
  goes, the Eclipse Plugin IS Flexbuilder, as Flex Builder is really eclipse 
  streamlined and with a different splash screen. In fact, it's the same 
  installer and you choose which you want to install. As far as Flex 
  Data Services, the model is as follows:Express: free but limited 
  to 1 application on a 1 CPU server, no concurrent user 
  limitDepartmental: $6000 per CPU, unlimited applications, CPUs 
  limited only to what you've paid for, 100 concurrent user limit 
  Enterprise: MSRP $20,000 per CPU, unlimited applications, CPUs 
  limited only to what you've paid for, no concurrent user limit (per Matt's 
  comment, nobody pays list for this but they have to have a number as a 
  starting point) 
  
  On 7/21/06, Umesh 
  Garg  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  






Hi,

Is the Eclipse plug-in for the Flex-builder free 
orI have to pay for it. CanI get this without the 
flexbuilder?If yes, what is the cost? 
 
I don't see the price for Flex Data Serviceon 
the site, what's the pricing model for this? I understand the express 
version is free to download. What is the limitation of express version? 


What's the days-limit for trial flex 
charting?

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Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list

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  Hi, 
  
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Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] Moderators: Please remove me from the list

2006-07-21 Thread Paul Andrews





Hi Doug,

I guess you'll have to wait for the moderators to 
kick in.

Maybe it's a fate thing and you are destined to be 
a flex coder...

Hope you get sorted out soon. You can always filter 
the flexcoders list for the moment..

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  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:33 PM
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  I’m not subscribed 
  with a yahoo address. How can I log in? What would I use as the 
  password?
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
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  On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Friday, July 
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From: Doug Hughes 


To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 


Sent: Friday, 
July 21, 2006 2:10 PM

Subject: 
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Hi, 


I’ve been trying for about a 
week to unsubscribe from this list without luck. I’ve followed the 
instructions and replied back to the confirmation email from yahoo. 
I’ve tried writing to yahoo’s support to get them to remove me. No 
luck!

Someone, please remove me from 
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Well, in that case why you would unsubscribe is 
beyond me. You can just filter the flexcoder stuff into a seperate folder - 
always there as a reference if need be and you might see something interesting 
if you dip in.

Paul

  - Original Message - 
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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 4:10 PM
  Subject: RE: SPAM-LOW: Re: [flexcoders] 
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  Well, amusingly, the 
  more I try to get off the list the more I actually work with Flex. I bet 
  as soon as I’m off I have some question that could only be answered 
  here.
  
  Doug
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
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  On Behalf Of Paul 
  AndrewsSent: Friday, July 
  21, 2006 10:56 AMTo: 
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  Moderators: Please remove me from the list
  
  
  Hi 
  Doug,
  
  
  
  I guess you'll have to wait for 
  the moderators to kick in.
  
  
  
  Maybe it's a fate thing and you 
  are destined to be a flex coder...
  
  
  
  Hope you get sorted out soon. You 
  can always filter the flexcoders list for the 
  moment..
  
  
  
  Paul
  
  
  

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Sent: Friday, 
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  Sent: 
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  Subject: 
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[flexcoders] Subclassing the flex DateChooser

2006-07-20 Thread Paul Andrews
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Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart

2006-07-18 Thread Paul Andrews





Same here:

TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or 
method of a null object reference.at 
mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::layoutChrome()at 
mx.core::Container/mx.core:Container::updateDisplayList()at 
mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::updateDisplayList()at 
mx.core::UIComponent/validateDisplayList()at 
mx.core::Container/validateDisplayList()at 
mx.managers::LayoutManager/::validateDisplayList()at 
mx.managers::LayoutManager/::doPhasedInstantiation()at 
Function/http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::apply()at 
mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher2()at 
mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher()

Paul

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  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:41 
AM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart
  Hey Doug, I tried to view your CMOrgChart and it doesn't load 
  with the final release of Flash Player 9.
  On 7/17/06, Douglas 
  Knudsen  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  





I have one I created. Staye tuned tohttp://www.cubicleman.com/ 
I have to find time to update it to the Flex 2 GR code and make it 
purtier. It will be open source and all.http://www.cubicleman.com/2006/05/11/cmorgchart-is-here/ 
is the orginal post...works with FlashPlayer 9 beta 
3DK

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know if there are anysamples available. Actually I am new to Flex and 
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Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart

2006-07-18 Thread Paul Andrews





Sorry Douglas, didn't spot that bit - didn't mean 
to hassle you.

Paul

  - Original Message - 
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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:14 
PM
  Subject: Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart
  "I have to find time to update it to the Flex 2 GR code and 
  make it purtier"I'm in knee deep with work projects, so fell behind 
  updating it. Paying jobs come first, eh? hehe! DK
  On 7/18/06, Paul 
  Andrews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  


Same here:

TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a 
property or method of a null object reference.at 
mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::layoutChrome()at 
mx.core::Container/mx.core:Container::updateDisplayList()at 
mx.containers::Panel/mx.containers:Panel::updateDisplayList()at 
mx.core::UIComponent/validateDisplayList()at 
mx.core::Container/validateDisplayList()at 
mx.managers::LayoutManager/::validateDisplayList()at 
mx.managers::LayoutManager/::doPhasedInstantiation()at 
Function/http://adobe.com/AS3/2006/builtin::apply()at 
mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher2()at 
mx.core::UIComponent/::callLaterDispatcher()


Paul


  - 
  Original Message - 
  From: 
  Nick Collins 
  To: 
  flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: 
  Tuesday, July 18, 2006 4:41 AM
  Subject: 
  Re: [flexcoders] Org Chart 
  Hey Doug, I tried to view your CMOrgChart and it doesn't 
  load with the final release of Flash Player 9.
  On 7/17/06, Douglas 
  Knudsen  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  





I have one I created. Staye tuned tohttp://www.cubicleman.com/ I have to find time to 
update it to the Flex 2 GR code and make it purtier. It will be 
open source and all.http://www.cubicleman.com/2006/05/11/cmorgchart-is-here/ 
is the orginal post...works with FlashPlayer 9 beta 
3DK

On 7/17/06, hitch_nj  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi,I want to create an organisation chart, want to know 
if there are anysamples available. Actually I am new to Flex and 
would like to knowwhere to 
start.Thanksh
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Re: [flexcoders] OT: average cost for an SDK?

2006-07-15 Thread Paul Andrews







  - Original Message - 
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  To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 10:39 
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  Subject: [flexcoders] OT: average cost 
  for an SDK?
  
  
  Ok, so this is an OT question, but 
  I thought that the experienced participants in this group would be most likely 
  to have some insight on this question. What do SDK’s usually cost? 
  I would assume that it could be anywhere from free to really expensive. 
  I am mostly just interested in polling the list to get a bunch of SDK cost 
  numbers so that I can come up with a median 
  number.
  
  Anyone ever worked with an 
  SDK? What did it cost you (if anything)? 

What's the point of a median number? As you said anything 
from free to $$.

Paul

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