Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage increase from m_flLastDamageTime spam?
This has been going on for a while now but I've ignored it. I have found no impact on the game from it (running a TF2 server) and can't acknowlegde that it's tied to a higher CPU usage. On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:22 AM, bottige...@gmail.com bottige...@gmail.com wrote: Has anyone noticed a hundreds of lines per second spam like this in the console? DataTable warning: player: Out-of-range value (85129.50) in SendPropFloat 'm_flLastDamageTime', clamping. I believe it may be tied to 20-30% higher CPU usage. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Idleness is not doing nothing. Idleness is being free to do anything. - Floyd Dell ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
At 12:40 AM 6/28/2010, Tony Paloma wrote: Well I doubt Valve is calling getdents directly. Probably getting called by some standard function. Place a breakpoint and do a trace a few times and see what functio % time seconds usecs/call callserrors syscall -- --- --- - - 35.410.014428 5 2784 getdents It's a wrapper that is probably doing something like #define blah(x,y,z) getdents(x,y,z) or another userland function that has to call it.. thundering herd problem? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
At 12:40 AM 6/28/2010, Tony Paloma wrote: Well I doubt Valve is calling getdents directly. Probably getting called by some standard function. Place a breakpoint and do a trace a few times and see what functio % time seconds usecs/call callserrors syscall -- --- --- - - 35.410.014428 5 2784 getdents It's a wrapper that is probably doing something like #define blah(x,y,z) getdents(x,y,z) or another userland function that has to call it.. thundering herd problem? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
I've also noticed a large amount of cpu usage since the switch. Have been busy with other things yet that could be the issue. Hope it's able to get fixed up for us. Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:50:11 -0400 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com From: g...@velocity-servers.net Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? 2010/6/27 JäKë Rawr can_kic...@hotmail.com I've also noticed a large amount of cpu usage since the switch. Have been busy with other things yet that could be the issue. Hope it's able to get fixed up for us. Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:50:11 -0400 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com From: g...@velocity-servers.net Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
I don't think Gary is that silly. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of AnAkIn . Sent: June-27-10 7:03 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? 2010/6/27 JäKë Rawr can_kic...@hotmail.com I've also noticed a large amount of cpu usage since the switch. Have been busy with other things yet that could be the issue. Hope it's able to get fixed up for us. Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 06:50:11 -0400 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com From: g...@velocity-servers.net Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Learn more ways to connect with your buddies now http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9734388 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Best regards, AnAkIn, - ESL EU TF2 Admin http://www.esl.eu/eu/tf2 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
I'm quite sure it's just endemic of the new engine. I'm sure valve is listening and all that jazz, but this is for all intents and purposes this is the TF2 engine that has run that game for a few years. I think you guys are going to just dedicate some more rack space, unfortunately. Thanks, Googleplex On 27/06/2010, at 11:09 PM, Gary Stanley g...@velocity-servers.net wrote: At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Welcome on the OB engine. CPU increase is normal. I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
more like a 300HP small block shoved in an ol' pintothat you're trying to get 50mpg from On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Gary Stanley g...@velocity-servers.netwrote: At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
I'm at a real loss here, I cannot nearly run as many slots as I could before the swap. Across three servers I'm down 30slots in total just to get the game moderately playable again. I'll try to get this community to upgrade the box, but as always money is tight. If anyone has any hints to get their CPU usage down, as always I'm all ears. Kyle. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Gene Hardesty geneharde...@gmail.com wrote: more like a 300HP small block shoved in an ol' pintothat you're trying to get 50mpg from On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Gary Stanley g...@velocity-servers.netwrote: At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
It's normal, the OB Engine use more CPU. It was exactly the same when Day Of Deafeat Source moved to OB. Unfortunatly, there's not much you can do about it. Hardware upgrade could help :x Cheers, Marc. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kyle Sanderson kyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: I'm at a real loss here, I cannot nearly run as many slots as I could before the swap. Across three servers I'm down 30slots in total just to get the game moderately playable again. I'll try to get this community to upgrade the box, but as always money is tight. If anyone has any hints to get their CPU usage down, as always I'm all ears. Kyle. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Gene Hardesty geneharde...@gmail.com wrote: more like a 300HP small block shoved in an ol' pintothat you're trying to get 50mpg from On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Gary Stanley g...@velocity-servers.net wrote: At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Dropping few slots helps. Basically for us it went from tick100 38 slots to tick66 38 slots. CPU usage is little higher though according to average graphs but basically it ends up topping 80+ all the time on full server at one core. (We are talking about CSS right? Not TF2.) -ics 27.6.2010 15:49, Marc.B kirjoitti: It's normal, the OB Engine use more CPU. It was exactly the same when Day Of Deafeat Source moved to OB. Unfortunatly, there's not much you can do about it. Hardware upgrade could help :x Cheers, Marc. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 2:37 PM, Kyle Sandersonkyle.l...@gmail.com wrote: I'm at a real loss here, I cannot nearly run as many slots as I could before the swap. Across three servers I'm down 30slots in total just to get the game moderately playable again. I'll try to get this community to upgrade the box, but as always money is tight. If anyone has any hints to get their CPU usage down, as always I'm all ears. Kyle. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Gene Hardestygeneharde...@gmail.com wrote: more like a 300HP small block shoved in an ol' pintothat you're trying to get 50mpg from On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 4:09 AM, Gary Stanleyg...@velocity-servers.net wrote: At 07:03 AM 6/27/2010, AnAkIn . wrote: You are not using that tickrate 100 plugin, are you? No. Why would I do that? That's like trying to get 40mpg out of a 600hp engine. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Welcome to the orangebox engine. Like TF2, it will burn more cpu now. On Jun 27, 2010 4:31 PM, Chris h...@chris03.com wrote: Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old e... To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
And it will keep on creasing with updates :). On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the orangebox engine. Like TF2, it will burn more cpu now. On Jun 27, 2010 4:31 PM, Chris h...@chris03.com wrote: Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old e... To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
I may have actually meant to say increasing. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: And it will keep on creasing with updates :). On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the orangebox engine. Like TF2, it will burn more cpu now. On Jun 27, 2010 4:31 PM, Chris h...@chris03.com wrote: Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old e... To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Maybe you did not: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/crease 2. (Military / Firearms, Gunnery, Ordnance Artillery) (tr) to graze with a bullet, causing superficial injury From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of 1nsane [1nsane...@gmail.com] Sent: June 27, 2010 6:01 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB I may have actually meant to say increasing. On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 6:00 PM, 1nsane 1nsane...@gmail.com wrote: And it will keep on creasing with updates :). On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 5:49 PM, Cc2iscooL cc2isc...@gmail.com wrote: Welcome to the orangebox engine. Like TF2, it will burn more cpu now. On Jun 27, 2010 4:31 PM, Chris h...@chris03.com wrote: Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old e... To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
At 05:27 PM 6/27/2010, Chris wrote: Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? No. I ran all my previous servers @ 99 tickrate, large slot count, now with 66 and the same players it consumes about 35% more (baseline analysis) It's possible the engine is just more expensive. It's also possible this is just normal, considering it's a 'different' engine. G. Monk Stanley gary at summit-servers dot com | gary at DragonflyBSD dot org http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary There currently are 7 different ways to get time from a computer. All of them can't agree on how long a second is supposed to be -Me ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
At 05:27 PM 6/27/2010, Chris wrote: Possibly because your servers ran at 33tick, and now they are at 66 which takes more cpu ? On 27/06/2010 6:50 AM, Gary Stanley wrote: I am seeing about 30% more usage compared to the old engine. I am having a few pubs running and I am now going to have to reduce the slot counts to compensate for the excessive usage. Profiling shows getdents() is using the most syscall time, compared to others, getdents is actually surpassing nanosleep() when it comes to syscall usage. FWIW getdents is VERY expensive to call over and over. Anyone else seeing this as well? No. I ran all my previous servers @ 99 tickrate, large slot count, now with 66 and the same players it consumes about 35% more (baseline analysis) It's possible the engine is just more expensive. It's also possible this is just normal, considering it's a 'different' engine. G. Monk Stanley gary at summit-servers dot com | gary at DragonflyBSD dot org http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~gary There currently are 7 different ways to get time from a computer. All of them can't agree on how long a second is supposed to be -Me ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Having it call getdents() all the time is weird. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
} -Original Message- } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marek Sieradzki } Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:27 PM } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB } } Having it call getdents() all the time is weird. } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Funny, the man page is trying to use Jedi mind tricks! Wave you hand in front of you as you read the first line. :) DESCRIPTION This is not the function you are interested in. Look at readdir(3) for the POSIX conforming C library interface. This page documents the bare kernel system call interface. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
These are not the nerds you're looking for! On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:29 PM, Guy Watkins hlds_li...@watkins-home.comwrote: } -Original Message- } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marek Sieradzki } Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:27 PM } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB } } Having it call getdents() all the time is weird. } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Funny, the man page is trying to use Jedi mind tricks! Wave you hand in front of you as you read the first line. :) DESCRIPTION This is not the function you are interested in. Look at readdir(3) for the POSIX conforming C library interface. This page documents the bare kernel system call interface. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB
Well I doubt Valve is calling getdents directly. Probably getting called by some standard function. Place a breakpoint and do a trace a few times and see what function is calling it most frequently. -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Guy Watkins Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:30 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB } -Original Message- } From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux- } boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Marek Sieradzki } Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 7:27 PM } To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list } Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage increase with OB } } Having it call getdents() all the time is weird. } } ___ } To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, } please visit: } http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux Funny, the man page is trying to use Jedi mind tricks! Wave you hand in front of you as you read the first line. :) DESCRIPTION This is not the function you are interested in. Look at readdir(3) for the POSIX conforming C library interface. This page documents the bare kernel system call interface. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage for 32 slot tf2 server.
I'm experiencing around 70-90% cpu with one server being full. Later in the night when 3 servers are full it oddly hovers around 50-70% per core on an Intel Xeon X3320 (quad core). It wasn't always like this but as someone said in the past, as more updates came out the worse it became for CPU consumption. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:22 AM, JäKë T can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello there just wondering what type of cpu usage you guys are getting on a full 32slot tf2 server? Mines been a lot higher than normal in the past few days now. On one of my Q6600 servers. I also notice this on one of my dual quad core boxes. So I'm just wondering what type of usage you guys are getting as well. Thanks Jake. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Windows Live Messenger. Multitasking at its finest. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage for 32 slot tf2 server.
It is strange but normall for TF2 ;( On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM, bliss...@gmail.com wrote: I'm experiencing around 70-90% cpu with one server being full. Later in the night when 3 servers are full it oddly hovers around 50-70% per core on an Intel Xeon X3320 (quad core). It wasn't always like this but as someone said in the past, as more updates came out the worse it became for CPU consumption. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:22 AM, JäKë T can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello there just wondering what type of cpu usage you guys are getting on a full 32slot tf2 server? Mines been a lot higher than normal in the past few days now. On one of my Q6600 servers. I also notice this on one of my dual quad core boxes. So I'm just wondering what type of usage you guys are getting as well. Thanks Jake. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Windows Live Messenger. Multitasking at its finest. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Pozdrawiam, Paweł Majewski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I'm on a Q9400 2.66Ghz, and I am getting similar numbers, 70-90% pretty much covers it when full. 2009/2/23 Pawel tra...@gmail.com It is strange but normall for TF2 ;( On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM, bliss...@gmail.com wrote: I'm experiencing around 70-90% cpu with one server being full. Later in the night when 3 servers are full it oddly hovers around 50-70% per core on an Intel Xeon X3320 (quad core). It wasn't always like this but as someone said in the past, as more updates came out the worse it became for CPU consumption. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:22 AM, JäKë T can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello there just wondering what type of cpu usage you guys are getting on a full 32slot tf2 server? Mines been a lot higher than normal in the past few days now. On one of my Q6600 servers. I also notice this on one of my dual quad core boxes. So I'm just wondering what type of usage you guys are getting as well. Thanks Jake. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Windows Live Messenger. Multitasking at its finest. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/messenger.aspx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Pozdrawiam, Paweł Majewski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- From Ben B. (Goerge) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage for 32 slot tf2 server.
Back on topic... I am seeing this same odd CPU usage. 75-90% load running 1 single 32 person server. This also lags clients when there is a lot of bullet calculation close together. This has to be from some recent update. Kernel: 2.6.25.10-grsec Running Xeon 5130 @ 2.0 ghz f0rkz f7lans.com - Not your moms marble madness On Feb 23, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Ben B wrote: I'm on a Q9400 2.66Ghz, and I am getting similar numbers, 70-90% pretty much covers it when full. 2009/2/23 Pawel tra...@gmail.com It is strange but normall for TF2 ;( On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 6:14 PM, bliss...@gmail.com wrote: I'm experiencing around 70-90% cpu with one server being full. Later in the night when 3 servers are full it oddly hovers around 50-70% per core on an Intel Xeon X3320 (quad core). It wasn't always like this but as someone said in the past, as more updates came out the worse it became for CPU consumption. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 2:22 AM, JäKë T can_kic...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello there just wondering what type of cpu usage you guys are getting on a full 32slot tf2 server? Mines been a lot higher than normal in the past few days now. On one of my Q6600 servers. I also notice this on one of my dual quad core boxes. So I'm just wondering what type of usage you guys are getting as well. Thanks Jake. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux _ Windows Live Messenger. Multitasking at its finest. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/ messenger.aspx ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Pozdrawiam, Paweł Majewski ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- From Ben B. (Goerge) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage for 32 slot tf2 server.
Back on topic... I am seeing this same odd CPU usage. 75-90% load running 1 single 32 person server. This also lags clients when there is a lot of bullet calculation close together. This has to be from some recent update. Kernel: 2.6.25.10-grsec Running Xeon 5130 @ 2.0 ghz I can confirm this. We get about 75-85% CPU usage on one core, Xeon 5335 @ 2.0GHz, with just 24 players on the server (started with +tickrate 66). Server is a VMware instance however, so I suppose that adds a bit of overhead... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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CPU usage is indeed horrible :(. A X3320 can run 2 full 32 slot DODS servers or 1 TF2 server. I also see FPS drops even with 30%+ free CPU on the core. Sometimes it gets noticeable when there's a lot of action going on. The DODS servers also maintain much more stabler FPS whit out any tweaking :/. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 2:37 PM, A. Eijkhoudt peng...@dhcp.net wrote: Back on topic... I am seeing this same odd CPU usage. 75-90% load running 1 single 32 person server. This also lags clients when there is a lot of bullet calculation close together. This has to be from some recent update. Kernel: 2.6.25.10-grsec Running Xeon 5130 @ 2.0 ghz I can confirm this. We get about 75-85% CPU usage on one core, Xeon 5335 @ 2.0GHz, with just 24 players on the server (started with +tickrate 66). Server is a VMware instance however, so I suppose that adds a bit of overhead... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage for 32 slot tf2 server.
On 2/23/2009 2:37 PM, A. Eijkhoudt wrote: Back on topic... I am seeing this same odd CPU usage. 75-90% load running 1 single 32 person server. This also lags clients when there is a lot of bullet calculation close together. This has to be from some recent update. Kernel: 2.6.25.10-grsec Running Xeon 5130 @ 2.0 ghz I can confirm this. We get about 75-85% CPU usage on one core, Xeon 5335 @ 2.0GHz, with just 24 players on the server (started with +tickrate 66). Server is a VMware instance however, so I suppose that adds a bit of overhead... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux not under esxi it doesn't..:) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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not under esxi it doesn't..:) We're using an ESXi cluster, so good to know ;) But seriously, I still think the CPU usage is ridiculous for TF2 now. I've fiddled a lot with HPET/Hz/etc. settings under Linux and I can't seem to get it below these values really. The only way to reduce load is by drastically reducing game performance (massively lowering tickrates etc.). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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ESX/ESXi barely adds anything for overhead it seems. My 2 peso's. I ran 8 L4D forked servers in an ESX VM with no complaints. Haven't had my TF2 server get fully loaded yet to see how that handles - oth I just set it up Friday with no mods other then being another 32 player tf2 server -mauirixxx - Sent from my #hlserveradmins IRC fanboyism -Original Message- From: hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com [mailto:hlds_linux-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of William Warren Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 10:40 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage for 32 slot tf2 server. On 2/23/2009 2:37 PM, A. Eijkhoudt wrote: Back on topic... I am seeing this same odd CPU usage. 75-90% load running 1 single 32 person server. This also lags clients when there is a lot of bullet calculation close together. This has to be from some recent update. Kernel: 2.6.25.10-grsec Running Xeon 5130 @ 2.0 ghz I can confirm this. We get about 75-85% CPU usage on one core, Xeon 5335 @ 2.0GHz, with just 24 players on the server (started with +tickrate 66). Server is a VMware instance however, so I suppose that adds a bit of overhead... ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux not under esxi it doesn't..:) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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At 03:47 PM 2/23/2009, A. Eijkhoudt wrote: not under esxi it doesn't..:) We're using an ESXi cluster, so good to know ;) But seriously, I still think the CPU usage is ridiculous for TF2 now. I've fiddled a lot with HPET/Hz/etc. settings under Linux and I can't seem to get it below these values really. The only way to reduce load is by drastically reducing game performance (massively lowering tickrates etc.). TF2 only requires 30hz sleeps (100/250hz kernels).. it doesn't require ultra accurate nanosleeps. Lowering HZ is also good overall, it reduces cacheline bouncing and other erratic behavior. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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At 03:47 PM 2/23/2009, A. Eijkhoudt wrote: not under esxi it doesn't..:) We're using an ESXi cluster, so good to know ;) But seriously, I still think the CPU usage is ridiculous for TF2 now. I've fiddled a lot with HPET/Hz/etc. settings under Linux and I can't seem to get it below these values really. The only way to reduce load is by drastically reducing game performance (massively lowering tickrates etc.). TF2 only requires 30hz sleeps (100/250hz kernels).. it doesn't require ultra accurate nanosleeps. Lowering HZ is also good overall, it reduces cacheline bouncing and other erratic behavior. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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I have been boored on occastion and compiled funky kernals with 1000hz, and yeah, they do behave wierd. Biggest thing for me though is that they make tf2, a game that already uses a lot of CPU use even more CPU. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Gary Stanley g...@velocity-servers.netwrote: At 03:47 PM 2/23/2009, A. Eijkhoudt wrote: not under esxi it doesn't..:) We're using an ESXi cluster, so good to know ;) But seriously, I still think the CPU usage is ridiculous for TF2 now. I've fiddled a lot with HPET/Hz/etc. settings under Linux and I can't seem to get it below these values really. The only way to reduce load is by drastically reducing game performance (massively lowering tickrates etc.). TF2 only requires 30hz sleeps (100/250hz kernels).. it doesn't require ultra accurate nanosleeps. Lowering HZ is also good overall, it reduces cacheline bouncing and other erratic behavior. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- From Ben B. (Goerge) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Have you tried comparing the differences between -fork'ing and standalone servers? The whole idea of the -fork option was to improve preformance. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:22 PM, Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We're currently running 16 servers very happily on dual quad core 3Ghz boxes (E5450s). All up 64 servers across 4 boxes currently, but we could probably amalgamate that onto 2 boxes if we really wanted, going by the CPU usage we're seeing. I'm not using the -fork option though, I'm running every server as a single instance as I'm binding servers to different IP addresses on the same box and using different config files (which doesn't appear to be currently available with -fork - feature request? :) ). For us, memory isn't an issue either, 64bit Linux and 16Gb of RAM in all of the boxes, so thats nowhere near touching the sides currently. I'm interested to know if the resource usage we're seeing out of the demo is very close to what we should also be expecting out of the full game as well? Given that there are some different multiplayer game modes, and maps and that will be different (moreso related to bot CPU load I assume differing on some levels etc). Chris Green wrote: I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Do you have multiple processors/cores? install htop Check there, it will tell you utilization per core/cpu rather than just overall. David A. Parker wrote: Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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That is common if you are using a basic realtime kernel without a lot of fine tuning. The CPU is misreported in STATS in such an instance. David A. Parker wrote: Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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Thanks for the info. That's good to know. - Dave Joseph Laws wrote: That is common if you are using a basic realtime kernel without a lot of fine tuning. The CPU is misreported in STATS in such an instance. David A. Parker wrote: Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
2 Dual core 2.80 ghz Xeon processors with 2gb of RAM on Ubuntu 8.03 Server Edition Kernel: 2.6.24-19-server 5 Servers running forked, using anywhere frmo 40% to 60% CPU usage evenly on the 4 cores, with occasional sikes to a bit higher. RAM usage is only 500-600mb. I could probably throw 2 more up without any problems, but I want to make sure it's stable first (so far, so good). Chris Green wrote: I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Hi Chris, The CPU usage is unbelievably lower. I know there was a warning that L4D was more CPU-intensive that TF2 (not sure if that was slot-per-slot, or full-server-per-full-server), but in our experience the performance improvements have trounced that several times over. On out setup (Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X3210 @ 2.13GHz) a full TF2 server takes up 70% of a core. Each of our 5* L4D servers is taking up 20% maximum right now. People on freebsd and debian will probably disagree, but I'd like those changes rolled back to TF2 please :) *Can't fork any more than 5, because for some weird reason each server listens on 3 UDP ports. If the first server is on port 27015, it also grabs ports 27020 and 27005, among others. So if we try to spawn a 6th server, it'll try to use 27020 as well, and fail. Trying to spawn an additional group of 5 sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. One thing, with the cool telnet console thing (which is cool, and will simplify some server stats generation stuff I do), the parent process listens on telnet too. This confused the hell out of us at first, as that's the one we tried to connect to, and it never says anything. I don't know if you're planning on doing something with that later on, but if so, it might be nice to output stuff to the telnet console warning noobs like me ;) I'd also prefer it if when forking, rather than specifying console port with 90## or similar, you just said 9000 and trusted that because you've specified a fork, that the port numbers will be incremented by one. Same for port numbers under forking, but I know that's been mentioned as something that's going to be changed anyway The other thing, which probably only matters at the moment when people are taking servers up and down quite often, is that it's difficult to take down a group of forked servers gracefully, as people keep joining; you end up having to kick a lot of people and I'm sure they get annoyed. What I did eventually was manually remove the master server entries from each server individually to stop them showing up on the list, then firewalled new connections to the servers. A way of telling forked servers to stop when they get to hibernation would be nice (maybe that's a use for that extra telnet console) But yeah, the general impression is overwhelmingly positive from a performance point of view. Philip Cass -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: 07 November 2008 17:53 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
On a Windows 2008 server (Core2Duo e8300 with 4gb of ram) I'm able to run 8 servers with only about ~40% total CPU usage (with hi-res timer.) I could add more but as per what you said, I'd run out of RAM way before CPU. ;) On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
So far, the actual CPU usage on my box is about 6% and memory usage is only 640 MB total. This is on an Intel Core2Duo E6550 @ 2.33GHz with 8 GB of RAM. The box is running CentOS 5.2 (32-bit) with a custom kernel. - Dave Chris Green wrote: I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
One thing, with the cool telnet console thing (which is cool, and will simplify some server stats generation stuff I do), the parent process listens on telnet too. This confused the hell out of us at first, as that's the one we tried to connect to, and it never says anything. I don't know if you're planning on doing something with that later on, but if so, it might be nice to output stuff to the telnet console warning noobs like me ;) The idea is for the parent process to be able to be talked to in order to do things like query the status of all the children, gracefully shutdown, etc. There is no functionality to do this at the moment, and I can't say when or if we might release that, but that's why a port is reserved for the parent process. The other thing, which probably only matters at the moment when people are taking servers up and down quite often, is that it's difficult to take down a group of forked servers gracefully, as people keep joining; you end up having to kick a lot of people and I'm sure they get annoyed. What I did eventually was manually remove the master server entries from each server individually to stop them showing up on the list, then firewalled new connections to the servers. A way of telling forked servers to stop when they get to hibernation would be nice (maybe that's a use for that extra telnet console) This doesn't currently interact well with -fork, but there is a new command sv_shutdown, which will cause the server to exit when it enters hibernation state, in order to allow a graceful restart. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: 07 November 2008 17:53 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
This doesn't currently interact well with -fork, but there is a new command sv_shutdown, which will cause the server to exit when it enters hibernation state, in order to allow a graceful restart. Cool, that's good to know anyway, though obviously integration with the fork system would be better still :) ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I thought that was picked up last night already, but here we go; We're unable to get more then 4 servers running on a Debian Lenny install. 4 L4D servers run fine, but the 5rh crashes (both srcds_run and srcds_i486) as soon as it has passed the 'Vac secured' message, and players start to join. I've tried several re-installs, copy's from working servers, changing ports etc etc, but its just not working. There were a couple more people on this list reporting this behavior aswell. On our windows box this is not an issue. We have 5 L4D servers running on there smoothly. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:02 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I thought that was picked up last night already, but here we go; We're unable to get more then 4 servers running on a Debian Lenny install. 4 L4D servers run fine, but the 5rh crashes (both srcds_run and srcds_i486) as soon as it has passed the 'Vac secured' message, and players start to join. I've tried several re-installs, copy's from working servers, changing ports etc etc, but its just not working. There were a couple more people on this list reporting this behavior aswell. On our windows box this is not an issue. We have 5 L4D servers running on there smoothly. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:02 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Your guys are not going to believe this but ... I'm running a l4d server on a Celeron 220 (1.3 Ghz monocore) with 512 MB of ram ... The server is running fine with ~50% CPU usage max. Players are not experiencing any kind of lag or what ever... - Debian etch with debian sid libc6 (apt pinning) On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 18:29, David A. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I start the servers by normal command line with +ip and +port . Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J T Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:14 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Ubuntu? On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Saint K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought that was picked up last night already, but here we go; We're unable to get more then 4 servers running on a Debian Lenny install. 4 L4D servers run fine, but the 5rh crashes (both srcds_run and srcds_i486) as soon as it has passed the 'Vac secured' message, and players start to join. I've tried several re-installs, copy's from working servers, changing ports etc etc, but its just not working. There were a couple more people on this list reporting this behavior aswell. On our windows box this is not an issue. We have 5 L4D servers running on there smoothly. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:02 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I start the servers by normal command line with +ip and +port . Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J T Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:14 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Hmmm - if I run with ./srcds_run -fork 20 +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment, I get 20 server processes (I can see them with ps x f). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J T Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:14 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
84.244.189.89:26917 0.0.0.0:* 21952/srcds_i486 udp0 0 84.244.189.89:26918 0.0.0.0:* 9061/srcds_i486 udp0 0 84.244.189.89:26919 0.0.0.0:* 22080/srcds_i486 udp0 0 84.244.189.89:26920 0.0.0.0:* 27562/srcds_i486 udp0 0 10.127.0.1:53 0.0.0.0:* 24068/named udp0 0 84.244.189.90:530.0.0.0:* 24068/named udp0 0 84.244.189.89:530.0.0.0:* 24068/named udp0 0 127.0.0.1:530.0.0.0:* 24068/named udp0 0 84.244.189.89:27960 0.0.0.0:* 4341/q3ded udp0 0 84.244.189.89:27962 0.0.0.0:* 4332/etded.x86 I'm about to try running the server with strace to see if I can figure out what's happening -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: 07 November 2008 19:23 To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hmmm - if I run with ./srcds_run -fork 20 +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment, I get 20 server processes (I can see them with ps x f). ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I've been running -fork 5 since yesterday when someone mentioned having problems. All 5 are running flawlessly, are constantly full, and you can see them on ports 27015 through 27019. Chris Green wrote: Hmmm - if I run with ./srcds_run -fork 20 +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment, I get 20 server processes (I can see them with ps x f). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J T Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:14 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I tried apt pinning, however its wanting to remove lots of things I still want. Whats your preferences file look like. Cheers. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Antoine Libert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your guys are not going to believe this but ... I'm running a l4d server on a Celeron 220 (1.3 Ghz monocore) with 512 MB of ram ... The server is running fine with ~50% CPU usage max. Players are not experiencing any kind of lag or what ever... - Debian etch with debian sid libc6 (apt pinning) On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 18:29, David A. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
We can't. If you want I can grant you access to check it yourself. It doesn't do more then 4. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:23 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hmmm - if I run with ./srcds_run -fork 20 +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment, I get 20 server processes (I can see them with ps x f). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J T Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:14 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Following it up, when running a server with:
strace ./srcds_run -nomaster -norestart -ip 84.244.189.89 -netconport
-port 27095 2error.txt
I get the following in error.txt:
bind(5, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27095),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 6
ioctl(6, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
setsockopt(6, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, [1], 4) = 0
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27005),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27006),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27007),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27008),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27009),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27010),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27011),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27012),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27013),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27014),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
write(1, WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable ..., 47) = 47
close(6)= 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 6
ioctl(6, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
setsockopt(6, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, [1], 4) = 0
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 7
ioctl(7, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
setsockopt(7, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, [1], 4) = 0
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27020),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27021),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27022),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27023),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27024),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27025),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27026),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27027),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27028),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27029),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already
in use)
write(1, WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable ..., 47) = 47
close(7)= 0
write(1, Couldn\'t allocate any hltv IP po..., 35) = 35
Note the bind at the top: it succeeds in binding the actual connection port,
but fails in trying to bind other, random, ports
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 November 2008 19:36
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Hi, this was part of my reply to your post, but it was a bit of an
essay, so
reposting it here:
Can't fork any more than 5, because for some weird reason each server
listens on 3 UDP ports. If the first server is on port 27015, it also
grabs
ports 27020 and 27005, among others. So if we try to spawn a 6th
server,
it'll try to use 27020 as well, and fail. Trying to spawn an
additional
group of 5 sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
In addition, I've just tried to start up another, non-forked, server,
and
it's dying as follows:
WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable to bind socket
WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable to bind socket
Couldn't allocate any hltv IP port
Being started with:
./srcds_run -nomaster -norestart -ip 84.244.189.89 -netconport -
port
27095
---
Server.cfg is:
echo Executing server.cfg
hostname 127001.org - L4D demo
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
We can't. If you want I can grant you access to check it yourself. It doesn't do more then 4. Cheers, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:23 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hmmm - if I run with ./srcds_run -fork 20 +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment, I get 20 server processes (I can see them with ps x f). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J T Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 11:14 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage If you specify -fork 5 nothing happens. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: What is the linux bug that is preventing you from running 4 servers? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Saint K. Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:52 AM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I'm quite impressed with the CPU load. I expected it to be worse. Unfortunatly due to the Linux bug, that box can only do 4 servers, but it runs around 55% on a C2D, but can't remember which type. On my Xeon machine the 5 L4D servers consume about the same as 1 26slots TF2 server. Cheers -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Green Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:53 PM To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list' Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Package: * Pin: release a=stable Pin-Priority: 700 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 650 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 600 and apt-get -t unstable install libc6 should work On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 20:40, J T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tried apt pinning, however its wanting to remove lots of things I still want. Whats your preferences file look like. Cheers. On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:16 AM, Antoine Libert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your guys are not going to believe this but ... I'm running a l4d server on a Celeron 220 (1.3 Ghz monocore) with 512 MB of ram ... The server is running fine with ~50% CPU usage max. Players are not experiencing any kind of lag or what ever... - Debian etch with debian sid libc6 (apt pinning) On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 18:29, David A. Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- - [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
This is a thank you to our member Phill for leaking our rcon password
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 19:41:14 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Following it up, when running a server with:
strace ./srcds_run -nomaster -norestart -ip 84.244.189.89 -netconport
-port 27095 2error.txt
I get the following in error.txt:
bind(5, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27095),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 6
ioctl(6, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
setsockopt(6, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, [1], 4) = 0
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27005),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27006),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27007),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27008),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27009),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27010),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27011),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27012),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27013),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27014),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
write(1, WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable ..., 47) = 47
close(6)= 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 6
ioctl(6, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
setsockopt(6, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, [1], 4) = 0
bind(6, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(0),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = 0
socket(PF_INET, SOCK_DGRAM, IPPROTO_UDP) = 7
ioctl(7, FIONBIO, [1]) = 0
setsockopt(7, SOL_SOCKET, SO_BROADCAST, [1], 4) = 0
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27020),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27021),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27022),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27023),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27024),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27025),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27026),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27027),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27028),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
bind(7, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(27029),
sin_addr=inet_addr(84.244.189.89)}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address
already
in use)
write(1, WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable ..., 47) = 47
close(7)= 0
write(1, Couldn\'t allocate any hltv IP po..., 35) = 35
Note the bind at the top: it succeeds in binding the actual connection
port,
but fails in trying to bind other, random, ports
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hlds_linux-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 07 November 2008 19:36
To: 'Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list'
Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
Hi, this was part of my reply to your post, but it was a bit of an
essay, so
reposting it here:
Can't fork any more than 5, because for some weird reason each server
listens on 3 UDP ports. If the first server is on port 27015, it also
grabs
ports 27020 and 27005, among others. So if we try to spawn a 6th
server,
it'll try to use 27020 as well, and fail. Trying to spawn an
additional
group of 5 sometimes works, sometimes doesn't.
In addition, I've just tried to start up another, non-forked, server,
and
it's dying as follows:
WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable to bind socket
WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: unable to bind socket
Couldn't allocate any hltv IP port
Being started with:
./srcds_run
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
When I tried it here more thank -fork 5 and it gets totally confused about ports being allocated, so its likely he means this. Regards Steve - Original Message - From: Chris Green [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm - if I run with ./srcds_run -fork 20 +map l4d_dem_hospital01_apartment, I get 20 server processes (I can see them with ps x f). This e.mail is private and confidential between Multiplay (UK) Ltd. and the person or entity to whom it is addressed. In the event of misdirection, the recipient is prohibited from using, copying, printing or otherwise disseminating it or any information contained in it. In the event of misdirection, illegible or incomplete transmission please telephone +44 845 868 1337 or return the E.mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
We're currently running 16 servers very happily on dual quad core 3Ghz boxes (E5450s). All up 64 servers across 4 boxes currently, but we could probably amalgamate that onto 2 boxes if we really wanted, going by the CPU usage we're seeing. I'm not using the -fork option though, I'm running every server as a single instance as I'm binding servers to different IP addresses on the same box and using different config files (which doesn't appear to be currently available with -fork - feature request? :) ). For us, memory isn't an issue either, 64bit Linux and 16Gb of RAM in all of the boxes, so thats nowhere near touching the sides currently. I'm interested to know if the resource usage we're seeing out of the demo is very close to what we should also be expecting out of the full game as well? Given that there are some different multiplayer game modes, and maps and that will be different (moreso related to bot CPU load I assume differing on some levels etc). Chris Green wrote: I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I'm interested to know if the resource usage we're seeing out of the demo is very close to what we should also be expecting out of the full game as well? Given that there are some different multiplayer game modes, and maps and that will be different (moreso related to bot CPU load I assume differing on some levels etc). For the full game, I'm guessing that vs mode will be more expensive, and some maps, maybe more expensive. But I don't have data for this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ben Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:23 PM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage We're currently running 16 servers very happily on dual quad core 3Ghz boxes (E5450s). All up 64 servers across 4 boxes currently, but we could probably amalgamate that onto 2 boxes if we really wanted, going by the CPU usage we're seeing. I'm not using the -fork option though, I'm running every server as a single instance as I'm binding servers to different IP addresses on the same box and using different config files (which doesn't appear to be currently available with -fork - feature request? :) ). For us, memory isn't an issue either, 64bit Linux and 16Gb of RAM in all of the boxes, so thats nowhere near touching the sides currently. I'm interested to know if the resource usage we're seeing out of the demo is very close to what we should also be expecting out of the full game as well? Given that there are some different multiplayer game modes, and maps and that will be different (moreso related to bot CPU load I assume differing on some levels etc). Chris Green wrote: I don't get that on my linux box (fedora core 9, 64 bit). What are people's perceptions so far in terms of the performance and memory impact of hosting l4d servers, especially compared to our other games? What numbers of full servers have people been able to host on what hardware/os combinations? Internally, when we tried to push as many servers as possible on 8-core xeons, we tended to run out of ram before we ran out of CPU. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David A. Parker Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:30 AM To: Half-Life dedicated Linux server mailing list Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU usage Hello, Using stats in the L4D server console appears to indicate that the CPU usage is at 99.9%: CPU InOut Uptime Users FPSPlayers 99.90 9098.73 33508.38 33 3 28.27 6 However, both mpstat and top indicate that it is hovering around 5% used, 95% idle. How is CPU usage calculated by the game server? - Dave -- Dave Parker Utica College Integrated Information Technology Services (315) 792-3229 Registered Linux User #408177 ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
Hi Use hlsw to look at your rcon stats. When typing rcon stats in console in game he takes the stats from your pc. But in hlsw you don't need to type rcon, only stats is enouf. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just installed srcds on my dedicated server and when I run rcon stats it always says 99.90 cpu even if the server is empty. The server is a: Pentium 4 3.06ghz HT 2gb ram Fedora 6 I have been running top to monitor my cpu usage and it never says much more then 65% and everything else is at 0%. I tweaked my kernel tu run at 1000hz and the other standard kernel tweaks. I tried lowering the srcds' nice level so it would have a higher priority and it always says it's using 99.90 % even if top says 7%. Is this a bug in srcds? should the listed cpu usage be accurate? I've been running a tf2 server at 100 ticks and 512fps and it does randomly drop to 70fps but very rarly. Anyone have an idea how to fix this? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
I'm pretty sure it's a kernel tweak which causes this, I've seen it on a few CSS servers, not sure which particular tweak though. Francis McGuire wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just installed srcds on my dedicated server and when I run rcon stats it always says 99.90 cpu even if the server is empty. The server is a: Pentium 4 3.06ghz HT 2gb ram Fedora 6 I have been running top to monitor my cpu usage and it never says much more then 65% and everything else is at 0%. I tweaked my kernel tu run at 1000hz and the other standard kernel tweaks. I tried lowering the srcds' nice level so it would have a higher priority and it always says it's using 99.90 % even if top says 7%. Is this a bug in srcds? should the listed cpu usage be accurate? I've been running a tf2 server at 100 ticks and 512fps and it does randomly drop to 70fps but very rarly. Anyone have an idea how to fix this? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
At 10:09 AM 9/21/2007, Francis McGuire wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just installed srcds on my dedicated server and when I run rcon stats it always says 99.90 cpu even if the server is empty. +sv_stats 0 -- Gary Stanley ([EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is top-posting (putting a reply at the top of the message) frowned upon? Let's not play Jeopardy-style quoting ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hmmm, Peter if you would have read my initial post you would have known that the information contained in top doesn't match the one given by rcon stats. stats always says 99.90 but top never goes higher then 65%. On 9/21/07, Svensk Ljud Ljus Produktion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only way to se its real usage is accessing the server-box with ssh/telnet and doing a top. If you are using hlsw you wont get a correct value ! in the console type top enter and press key 1 if you have more then one core ! Peter - Original Message - From: Ben Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage I'm pretty sure it's a kernel tweak which causes this, I've seen it on a few CSS servers, not sure which particular tweak though. Francis McGuire wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just installed srcds on my dedicated server and when I run rcon stats it always says 99.90 cpu even if the server is empty. The server is a: Pentium 4 3.06ghz HT 2gb ram Fedora 6 I have been running top to monitor my cpu usage and it never says much more then 65% and everything else is at 0%. I tweaked my kernel tu run at 1000hz and the other standard kernel tweaks. I tried lowering the srcds' nice level so it would have a higher priority and it always says it's using 99.90 % even if top says 7%. Is this a bug in srcds? should the listed cpu usage be accurate? I've been running a tf2 server at 100 ticks and 512fps and it does randomly drop to 70fps but very rarly. Anyone have an idea how to fix this? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
The only way to se its real usage is accessing the server-box with ssh/telnet and doing a top. If you are using hlsw you wont get a correct value ! in the console type top enter and press key 1 if you have more then one core ! Peter - Original Message - From: Ben Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage I'm pretty sure it's a kernel tweak which causes this, I've seen it on a few CSS servers, not sure which particular tweak though. Francis McGuire wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I just installed srcds on my dedicated server and when I run rcon stats it always says 99.90 cpu even if the server is empty. The server is a: Pentium 4 3.06ghz HT 2gb ram Fedora 6 I have been running top to monitor my cpu usage and it never says much more then 65% and everything else is at 0%. I tweaked my kernel tu run at 1000hz and the other standard kernel tweaks. I tried lowering the srcds' nice level so it would have a higher priority and it always says it's using 99.90 % even if top says 7%. Is this a bug in srcds? should the listed cpu usage be accurate? I've been running a tf2 server at 100 ticks and 512fps and it does randomly drop to 70fps but very rarly. Anyone have an idea how to fix this? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
I don't belive that I have SELinux installed, because I have never heard about it before :) Im testing the i386 linux now to see if this is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:30 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I had very high usage when I tested on a linux distro and in my case I believe it was because I had enabled SELinux. Did you by chance install and enable this? I don't know if anyone else saw this behavior but I did in my short couple months of testing. I brought the system home and tested it without installing SELinux and it seemed infinetly better. But I put Win2003 on instead and sent my system back to the datacenter. So I can't tell you absolutely if this was my problem or not but I think it was. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I have a dual xeon 2,4ghz server, and compiled the new 2.6.20 debian kernel @1000hZ, but when I run a srcds server at 100ticks the CPU consumes 100% with 10ppl. Witch CPU family does this CPU belong? I used the i686, but I see that I also can use i486? Can this be the problem? I installed this; Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon I can also choose 2core/newer Xeon, but the make fails when I use this. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kama Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valveso ftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
When I run the i484 binary it consumes less CPU but still to much.. Maybe I must compile the kernel with i484 aswell? Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen It konsulent NovaNett AS Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 Faks: 22178218 Web: www.novanett.no -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I don't belive that I have SELinux installed, because I have never heard about it before :) Im testing the i386 linux now to see if this is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:30 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I had very high usage when I tested on a linux distro and in my case I believe it was because I had enabled SELinux. Did you by chance install and enable this? I don't know if anyone else saw this behavior but I did in my short couple months of testing. I brought the system home and tested it without installing SELinux and it seemed infinetly better. But I put Win2003 on instead and sent my system back to the datacenter. So I can't tell you absolutely if this was my problem or not but I think it was. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I have a dual xeon 2,4ghz server, and compiled the new 2.6.20 debian kernel @1000hZ, but when I run a srcds server at 100ticks the CPU consumes 100% with 10ppl. Witch CPU family does this CPU belong? I used the i686, but I see that I also can use i486? Can this be the problem? I installed this; Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon I can also choose 2core/newer Xeon, but the make fails when I use this. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kama Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valveso ftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
I run SELinux on my machines with no issues. HLDS and SRCDS's cpu requirements have imply escalated quote a bit. SELinux is a security measure that you need to learn to run with IMO..it does to introduce enough overhead to worry bout( for most it's less than 1%) Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: When I run the i484 binary it consumes less CPU but still to much.. Maybe I must compile the kernel with i484 aswell? Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen It konsulent NovaNett AS Adr: Grønland 14, 0188 Oslo E-post: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tlf: 22170020 / Mob 9699 Faks: 22178218 Web: www.novanett.no -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 10:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I don't belive that I have SELinux installed, because I have never heard about it before :) Im testing the i386 linux now to see if this is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:30 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I had very high usage when I tested on a linux distro and in my case I believe it was because I had enabled SELinux. Did you by chance install and enable this? I don't know if anyone else saw this behavior but I did in my short couple months of testing. I brought the system home and tested it without installing SELinux and it seemed infinetly better. But I put Win2003 on instead and sent my system back to the datacenter. So I can't tell you absolutely if this was my problem or not but I think it was. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I have a dual xeon 2,4ghz server, and compiled the new 2.6.20 debian kernel @1000hZ, but when I run a srcds server at 100ticks the CPU consumes 100% with 10ppl. Witch CPU family does this CPU belong? I used the i686, but I see that I also can use i486? Can this be the problem? I installed this; Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon I can also choose 2core/newer Xeon, but the make fails when I use this. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kama Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valveso ftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
You still might have it installed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 4:35 AM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I don't belive that I have SELinux installed, because I have never heard about it before :) Im testing the i386 linux now to see if this is better. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:30 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I had very high usage when I tested on a linux distro and in my case I believe it was because I had enabled SELinux. Did you by chance install and enable this? I don't know if anyone else saw this behavior but I did in my short couple months of testing. I brought the system home and tested it without installing SELinux and it seemed infinetly better. But I put Win2003 on instead and sent my system back to the datacenter. So I can't tell you absolutely if this was my problem or not but I think it was. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I have a dual xeon 2,4ghz server, and compiled the new 2.6.20 debian kernel @1000hZ, but when I run a srcds server at 100ticks the CPU consumes 100% with 10ppl. Witch CPU family does this CPU belong? I used the i686, but I see that I also can use i486? Can this be the problem? I installed this; Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon I can also choose 2core/newer Xeon, but the make fails when I use this. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kama Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valveso ftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valvesoftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valvesoftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
Hei Andreas. It's schedtool, with an 'h'. http://freequaos.host.sk/schedtool Cheers, Einar Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
Actually, I was wrong. Package name is schedutils and with debian you can install it with apt-get install schedutils. Cheers, Valtteri Einar S. Idsø kirjoitti: Hei Andreas. It's schedtool, with an 'h'. http://freequaos.host.sk/schedtool Cheers, Einar Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
I have a dual xeon 2,4ghz server, and compiled the new 2.6.20 debian kernel @1000hZ, but when I run a srcds server at 100ticks the CPU consumes 100% with 10ppl. Witch CPU family does this CPU belong? I used the i686, but I see that I also can use i486? Can this be the problem? I installed this; Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon I can also choose 2core/newer Xeon, but the make fails when I use this. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kama Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valvesoftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
I had very high usage when I tested on a linux distro and in my case I believe it was because I had enabled SELinux. Did you by chance install and enable this? I don't know if anyone else saw this behavior but I did in my short couple months of testing. I brought the system home and tested it without installing SELinux and it seemed infinetly better. But I put Win2003 on instead and sent my system back to the datacenter. So I can't tell you absolutely if this was my problem or not but I think it was. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage I have a dual xeon 2,4ghz server, and compiled the new 2.6.20 debian kernel @1000hZ, but when I run a srcds server at 100ticks the CPU consumes 100% with 10ppl. Witch CPU family does this CPU belong? I used the i686, but I see that I also can use i486? Can this be the problem? I installed this; Pentium-4/Celeron(P4-based)/Pentium-4 M/older Xeon I can also choose 2core/newer Xeon, but the make fails when I use this. Any suggestions? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kama Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 12:44 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage should probably be schedtools... /Bjorn On Wed, 7 Feb 2007, Andreas Kang Schøyen wrote: Install the scedtools package and then just start your processes like this: taskset -c 0 ./startcommand Where do i find the scedtools package ? Tried apt-cache search and google. Cant find it. Med vennlig hilsen: Andreas Kang Schøyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:33 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valveso ftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit
RE: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage
http://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=hlds_linux%40list.valvesoftware.comq=f orce+processor 3rd result down -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Kang Schøyen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 2:01 PM To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com; hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My hardware, opteron socket 939, dual core, 4gig mem. running debian.64 it looks to me as my 3 srcds proccesses runs only on one of the CPUs, how can i define a process to run on a spesific CPU or the one with less load? top - 20:04:35 up 8:32, 1 user, load average: 1.08, 1.19, 1.24 Tasks: 53 total, 1 running, 52 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 40.0% us, 0.5% sy, 0.0% ni, 58.3% id, 0.0% wa, 0.5% hi, 0.7% si Mem: 1995736k total, 816828k used, 1178908k free, 28828k buffers Swap: 1614492k total,0k used, 1614492k free, 462332k cached PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2992 cs15 0 175m 95m 13m S 66.2 4.9 219:49.32 srcds_amd 2982 cs15 0 148m 69m 12m S 15.0 3.6 5:50.00 srcds_amd 3012 cs15 0 171m 93m 12m S 0.7 4.8 0:13.11 srcds_amd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mpstat -P ALL Linux 2.6.19 (cs22) 02/06/2007 08:04:53 PM CPU %user %nice %system %iowait%irq %soft %idleintr/s 08:04:53 PM all 21.400.000.250.160.32 0.50 77.37 2787.73 08:04:53 PM0 11.450.000.160.050.00 0.14 88.20 8.64 08:04:53 PM1 31.360.000.330.260.64 0.86 66.54 2779.09 -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Basically I think the cpu usage for dod:s is a pain in the ass too, but ultimately I can't see Valve fixing that as I just think the extreme cpu usages now are part of their Valves standard of whats normal (and probably why there will never be a fix for other games high cpu). I doubt there's much optimisations to be had in there without major recoding, so we just leave it be and don't run many dod:s servers anymore (in fact less and less valve overall, not because of any gripe, just simple logistics). On 7/11/06, Evaldas Žilinskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Ok, I don't want to discuss about the current problem with CPUs, because on every srcds site you can see that. I would preffer to see answers. So, yesterday I ran a 24slot server DODs using 66tic. And when people reached the number of 18-20, CPU was ~90%. Is this normal? I mean, that on the same CPU and Linux I can run 2 dod1.3 servers with 32 slot and get ~60-70% CPU. And dod1.3 do update players 100k/s just fine, and here? You have 66updates/s and so high CPU usage. At the momment I'm runing 3.4GHzPentium4 (800MHz FSB etc, etc...) +2GB DDR*400 and SuSe Linux. Better MHz suggestin is only a 3.8 one, but I don't think that +400MHz will slow my problems. So I know that current SRCDS anticheat system with updates, ticrates a bit slow the aimboting and something like that, but from admin side of this, It's a pain in the ass. Because CPUs with 5GHz haven't showed yet :). What do the people on this list think? Maybe an other beta test would bring the things to the right side? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
Just as a baseline cross-platform comparison, I have three servers running on a new Win2003 server box at a data center. The server is an Intel 3.0GHz HT CPU with 2GB of DDR memory. There is one HLDM (512 FPS, 1KHz ticrate ), one HL2DM (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) and one DOD:S server (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) with 12 player slots each. I also normally run a high-resolution timer. With all three servers full (34 real players), CPU utilization runs ~81%. VAC is enabled for all three servers. Turning off the high-res timer dropped the CPU utilization to ~20%. I'm not posting this to say that Win32 is better or worse then Linux, all I'm reporting is how the Win32 platorm is behaving with current server code (in my mind they should both be very close to each other in performance). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Evaldas Žilinskas To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Ok, I don't want to discuss about the current problem with CPUs, because on every srcds site you can see that. I would preffer to see answers. So, yesterday I ran a 24slot server DODs using 66tic. And when people reached the number of 18-20, CPU was ~90%. Is this normal? I mean, that on the same CPU and Linux I can run 2 dod1.3 servers with 32 slot and get ~60-70% CPU. And dod1.3 do update players 100k/s just fine, and here? You have 66updates/s and so high CPU usage. At the momment I'm runing 3.4GHz Pentium4 (800MHz FSB etc, etc...) +2GB DDR*400 and SuSe Linux. Better MHz suggestin is only a 3.8 one, but I don't think that +400MHz will slow my problems. So I know that current SRCDS anticheat system with updates, ticrates a bit slow the aimboting and something like that, but from admin side of this, It's a pain in the ass. Because CPUs with 5GHz haven't showed yet :). What do the people on this list think? Maybe an other beta test would bring the things to the right side? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
Interesting! What kind of 3 Ghz CPU are you using, Xeon (old) or Xeon (New with I64) or P4? In currently running a cs-server on linux. The metrics show here (been on the list before: http://core.zokahn.com/cs-01/ This is a dual xeon 3ghz system the processors are bit aging...early 3ghz models. I'm currently building a new system which holds 2 dual core optoren 270 processors, I hope these will give enough bang for a lot of slots. The first month I will be testing windows vs linux performance. (I have a partition with windows and one with debian 3.1) I really hope Linux wins. as i find it easyer to manage :-) Gr, Zokahn Just as a baseline cross-platform comparison, I have three servers running on a new Win2003 server box at a data center. The server is an Intel 3.0GHz HT CPU with 2GB of DDR memory. There is one HLDM (512 FPS, 1KHz ticrate ), one HL2DM (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) and one DOD:S server (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) with 12 player slots each. I also normally run a high-resolution timer. With all three servers full (34 real players), CPU utilization runs ~81%. VAC is enabled for all three servers. Turning off the high-res timer dropped the CPU utilization to ~20%. I'm not posting this to say that Win32 is better or worse then Linux, all I'm reporting is how the Win32 platorm is behaving with current server code (in my mind they should both be very close to each other in performance). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Evaldas ilinskas To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Ok, I don't want to discuss about the current problem with CPUs, because on every srcds site you can see that. I would preffer to see answers. So, yesterday I ran a 24slot server DODs using 66tic. And when people reached the number of 18-20, CPU was ~90%. Is this normal? I mean, that on the same CPU and Linux I can run 2 dod1.3 servers with 32 slot and get ~60-70% CPU. And dod1.3 do update players 100k/s just fine, and here? You have 66updates/s and so high CPU usage. At the momment I'm runing 3.4GHz Pentium4 (800MHz FSB etc, etc...) +2GB DDR*400 and SuSe Linux. Better MHz suggestin is only a 3.8 one, but I don't think that +400MHz will slow my problems. So I know that current SRCDS anticheat system with updates, ticrates a bit slow the aimboting and something like that, but from admin side of this, It's a pain in the ass. Because CPUs with 5GHz haven't showed yet :). What do the people on this list think? Maybe an other beta test would bring the things to the right side? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
Well, Windows (server versions) are expensive. Off course if you're a hosting company, then there is no problem, but when you host a local server and you don't get any money from that, then linux is the best choice. My choice was SuSe 9.x builds and from 9.0 I'm not getting any bugs or errors on HLDS/SRCDS builds :-). And they aren't so expensive (SuSe linux cost ~260Lt and Windows Server WEB cost ~1500Lt, Lt - our country currency. Kevin mentioned about high-resolution Timer maybe it has to do something with the CPU usage? My server settings are fps_max 1000, but really I don't get anything more than 333fps (even if my /proc/sys/kernel/hz shows 1000). Maybe when there is ticrate things we do nor need more fps than server is updating clients? Or I'm mistaking something? :-) - Original Message - From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage This is just a plain old P4 Prescott (478 pin) CPU, very common but solid and predictable. I have a Dell Dual Xeon 2.2GHz machine here that I just started to do some testing on, nothing to report yet. Windows hasn't been bad to manage (I've been running servers since 2002) other then no autoupdate which can be a mixed blessing (I suspect) and I actually really like the server GUI. - Original Message - From: Bart van den Heuvel To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:46 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Interesting! What kind of 3 Ghz CPU are you using, Xeon (old) or Xeon (New with I64) or P4? In currently running a cs-server on linux. The metrics show here (been on the list before: http://core.zokahn.com/cs-01/ This is a dual xeon 3ghz system the processors are bit aging...early 3ghz models. I'm currently building a new system which holds 2 dual core optoren 270 processors, I hope these will give enough bang for a lot of slots. The first month I will be testing windows vs linux performance. (I have a partition with windows and one with debian 3.1) I really hope Linux wins. as i find it easyer to manage :-) Gr, Zokahn Just as a baseline cross-platform comparison, I have three servers running on a new Win2003 server box at a data center. The server is an Intel 3.0GHz HT CPU with 2GB of DDR memory. There is one HLDM (512 FPS, 1KHz ticrate ), one HL2DM (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) and one DOD:S server (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) with 12 player slots each. I also normally run a high-resolution timer. With all three servers full (34 real players), CPU utilization runs ~81%. VAC is enabled for all three servers. Turning off the high-res timer dropped the CPU utilization to ~20%. I'm not posting this to say that Win32 is better or worse then Linux, all I'm reporting is how the Win32 platorm is behaving with current server code (in my mind they should both be very close to each other in performance). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Evaldas Zilinskas To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Ok, I don't want to discuss about the current problem with CPUs, because on every srcds site you can see that. I would preffer to see answers. So, yesterday I ran a 24slot server DODs using 66tic. And when people reached the number of 18-20, CPU was ~90%. Is this normal? I mean, that on the same CPU and Linux I can run 2 dod1.3 servers with 32 slot and get ~60-70% CPU. And dod1.3 do update players 100k/s just fine, and here? You have 66updates/s and so high CPU usage. At the momment I'm runing 3.4GHz Pentium4 (800MHz FSB etc, etc...) +2GB DDR*400 and SuSe Linux. Better MHz suggestin is only a 3.8 one, but I don't think that +400MHz will slow my problems. So I know that current SRCDS anticheat system with updates, ticrates a bit slow the aimboting and something like that, but from admin side of this, It's a pain in the ass. Because CPUs with 5GHz haven't showed yet :). What do the people on this list think? Maybe an other beta test would bring the things to the right side? ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
One thing I've found specifically about Source servers is that they do not need, and probably should not be run at anything other then their default ticrates (IE: do not use of the -ticrate launch option). The Source Server engine does not run the same way that HLDS does and does not appear to benefit from higher -ticrate (no matter what players think). Important note: SRCDS -ticrate is not the same as OS ticrate, don't get these two confused. Very specifically, in SRCDS, the game simulation, network loop, and physics simulation are all separate, so raising the SRCDS -ticrate only affects part of what is happening. I've found that raising the SRCDS -ticrate: 1. does not improve accuracy, 2. does not smooth out physics (which has a fixed ticrate all its own), 3. does not lower ping on the network, 4. does not give players smoother performance, and in fact 5. may cause the physics engine to eventually get out of sync which can cause the well known physical mayhem syndrome (mostly seen in HL2DM). Raising the HLDS -ticrate has a very definite set of beneficial effects for Servers where the network was serviced faster (lowering latency) and providing smoother gameplay and better accuracy for players in general. This is not true for SRCDS. That all said, for SRCDS there does appear to be a _slight_ benefit from running a high-res timer (OS ticrate) which is the kernel ticrate for Linux. SRCDS by default has fps_max set to 300 but without a high-res timer (high OS ticrate) will only run at 66 (or so) much like HLDS. Running the OS ticrate at 1000Hz may cause unnecessary CPU usage however, try running 300Hz to match the 300 fps_max and see if this lowers your CPU usage. The Win32 OS appears to only have an on/off setting for the high-res timer - I can change the timer settings but it has no effect on CPU usage or server FPS. For Win32 SRCDS Servers (and I suspect Linux as well) lowering the fps_max (to say 66) does not appear to affect CPU usage, but (along with the OS ticrate high-res timer on/off) does affect how the server feels to players. In blind testing I most often get complaints of the SRCDS server feeling framey when I lower the server FPS. Some affect of this can be seen by the client with net_graph 1 or 2 as well as with +showbudget (note that use of these will cause the client to feel more framey). As a last note, I've found that restarting SRCDS (specifically HL2DM) every couple of days or so really helps to keep the server running smoothly (I suspect especially because of the physics in HL2DM). I usually keep a client attached to the servers as well so I can directly monitor how things are running, and they also need to be restarted every day or two at most. In summary then, for SRCDS: 1. use of the launch option -ticrate xxx may cause problems 2. Different settings of fps_max xxx doesn't appear to affect CPU usage, anything above 300 (default) is unnecessary, less then 66 is undesirable. 3. The OS high-res timer (kernal ticrate) does directly affect the actual SRCDS server FPS (for game simulation portions of the server) 4. The OS high-res timer (kernal ticrate) does directly affect the CPU usage (dramatically!) I hope this helps a bit. qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: GoD2.0 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage I oveserved the fact that windows generaly handles the kernel tickrate it's self, while in linux it is a good ideaa to set it yourself (there is an option during the kernel compilation - timer frequency that is default 250, and should be 1000 for high tickrate servers). Linux generaly works much better with 4 cores, while with 2 cores the difference is not noticeable if you set them right - Original Message - From: Kevin Ottalini To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Just as a baseline cross-platform comparison, I have three servers running on a new Win2003 server box at a data center. The server is an Intel 3.0GHz HT CPU with 2GB of DDR memory. There is one HLDM (512 FPS, 1KHz ticrate ), one HL2DM (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) and one DOD:S server (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) with 12 player slots each. I also normally run a high-resolution timer. With all three servers full (34 real players), CPU utilization runs ~81%. VAC is enabled for all three servers. Turning off the high-res timer dropped the CPU utilization to ~20%. I'm not posting this to say that Win32 is better or worse then Linux, all I'm reporting is how the Win32 platorm is behaving with current server code (in my mind they should both be very close to each other in performance). qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: Evaldas Žilinskas To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 10:55 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Ok, I don't want to discuss about the current problem with CPUs
Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage
Thanks for that nice response Kevin. I would like to pimp out (as I do on the steam forums) the advanced tickrate section on serverwiki.org for those of you that have not seen it.. http://www.serverwiki.org/index.php/Advanced_Tickrate Cheers --kennycom - Original Message - From: Kevin Ottalini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage One thing I've found specifically about Source servers is that they do not need, and probably should not be run at anything other then their default ticrates (IE: do not use of the -ticrate launch option). The Source Server engine does not run the same way that HLDS does and does not appear to benefit from higher -ticrate (no matter what players think). Important note: SRCDS -ticrate is not the same as OS ticrate, don't get these two confused. Very specifically, in SRCDS, the game simulation, network loop, and physics simulation are all separate, so raising the SRCDS -ticrate only affects part of what is happening. I've found that raising the SRCDS -ticrate: 1. does not improve accuracy, 2. does not smooth out physics (which has a fixed ticrate all its own), 3. does not lower ping on the network, 4. does not give players smoother performance, and in fact 5. may cause the physics engine to eventually get out of sync which can cause the well known physical mayhem syndrome (mostly seen in HL2DM). Raising the HLDS -ticrate has a very definite set of beneficial effects for Servers where the network was serviced faster (lowering latency) and providing smoother gameplay and better accuracy for players in general. This is not true for SRCDS. That all said, for SRCDS there does appear to be a _slight_ benefit from running a high-res timer (OS ticrate) which is the kernel ticrate for Linux. SRCDS by default has fps_max set to 300 but without a high-res timer (high OS ticrate) will only run at 66 (or so) much like HLDS. Running the OS ticrate at 1000Hz may cause unnecessary CPU usage however, try running 300Hz to match the 300 fps_max and see if this lowers your CPU usage. The Win32 OS appears to only have an on/off setting for the high-res timer - I can change the timer settings but it has no effect on CPU usage or server FPS. For Win32 SRCDS Servers (and I suspect Linux as well) lowering the fps_max (to say 66) does not appear to affect CPU usage, but (along with the OS ticrate high-res timer on/off) does affect how the server feels to players. In blind testing I most often get complaints of the SRCDS server feeling framey when I lower the server FPS. Some affect of this can be seen by the client with net_graph 1 or 2 as well as with +showbudget (note that use of these will cause the client to feel more framey). As a last note, I've found that restarting SRCDS (specifically HL2DM) every couple of days or so really helps to keep the server running smoothly (I suspect especially because of the physics in HL2DM). I usually keep a client attached to the servers as well so I can directly monitor how things are running, and they also need to be restarted every day or two at most. In summary then, for SRCDS: 1. use of the launch option -ticrate xxx may cause problems 2. Different settings of fps_max xxx doesn't appear to affect CPU usage, anything above 300 (default) is unnecessary, less then 66 is undesirable. 3. The OS high-res timer (kernal ticrate) does directly affect the actual SRCDS server FPS (for game simulation portions of the server) 4. The OS high-res timer (kernal ticrate) does directly affect the CPU usage (dramatically!) I hope this helps a bit. qUiCkSiLvEr - Original Message - From: GoD2.0 To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage I oveserved the fact that windows generaly handles the kernel tickrate it's self, while in linux it is a good ideaa to set it yourself (there is an option during the kernel compilation - timer frequency that is default 250, and should be 1000 for high tickrate servers). Linux generaly works much better with 4 cores, while with 2 cores the difference is not noticeable if you set them right - Original Message - From: Kevin Ottalini To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] Cpu usage Just as a baseline cross-platform comparison, I have three servers running on a new Win2003 server box at a data center. The server is an Intel 3.0GHz HT CPU with 2GB of DDR memory. There is one HLDM (512 FPS, 1KHz ticrate ), one HL2DM (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) and one DOD:S server (300fps, default (66?) ticrate) with 12 player slots each. I also normally run a high-resolution timer. With all three servers full (34 real players), CPU utilization runs ~81%. VAC is enabled for all three servers. Turning off the high-res timer dropped the CPU utilization to ~20%. I'm not posting this to say
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage
I use only metamod 1.2.1. - Original Message - From: 1nsane . [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 6:58 AM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU usage -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Evaldai, My 20 slotter with 100 tick uses up only about 35% cpu when its full. Is that a clean install? What kind of mods (if any) do you have? One of my server runs at 64 tick and right now with 3 people and 2 bots it only uses up 2.6 % of the dual xeon (2.4 GHZ 2GB RAM) So your 33 tick server should'nt really be using up that much. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Evaldai, My 20 slotter with 100 tick uses up only about 35% cpu when its full. Is that a clean install? What kind of mods (if any) do you have? One of my server runs at 64 tick and right now with 3 people and 2 bots it only uses up 2.6 % of the dual xeon (2.4 GHZ 2GB RAM) So your 33 tick server should'nt really be using up that much. -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
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which distro? Which CS version? What plugins? Evaldas Žilinskas wrote: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Strange things happening on my linux box. 16 player server is causing 60% cpu usage. PC is 3GHz pentium, 1GB DDR. Maybe something with kernel? -- ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux -- My Foundation verse: Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. -- carpe ductum -- Grab the tape CDTT (Certified Duct Tape Technician) Linux user #322099 Machines: 206822 256638 276825 http://counter.li.org/ ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate
sv_minupdaterate sv_maxupdaterate have zero effect. /Jesper Chris Jones wrote: Jesper S?rensen wrote: Problem is, with values high than the tickrate you get a shit load of local prediction errors, and you really dont want those. sv_maxupdaterate // Maximum updates per second that the server will allow -- Chris ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate
I think this is why I personally dislike the idea of changeable tickrates. I'm more from the point of view that valve (+community tested if possible), should just come out with one value that provides good reg, and reasonable cpu. Instead we're heading back to the archaic system of every server you go on being different, and every player whining if the server isn't set to 128 or something. Set it at a decent value which is accepted by the community as good and fix it at that. I don't see why this is such an issue, whereas now we're probably going to find some servers on 33, some on 66/100, probably some 128 and getting odd simulation errors. Get an accepted value which is how css should be played and stick to it in my book. I'm currently testing the different ticrates and usage, so don't have anything conclusive about how much mines using yet, but I'm currently wincing every time I change it about how much cpu I'm going to find it takes when full hehe. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate
Hi, using Debian with the 2.6.10 Kernel. I set tickrate to 66 ! The pings are better and the CPU Usage with a full 16 Slots Server is max. ~20% at all maps ! XP 2800+ Barton, 1 GB RAM . - Original Message - From: richy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds linux hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:16 PM Subject: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate Hi I am seeing a huge CPU usage increase with higher tickrates. I have a 64bit Opteron 250 with 1GB Ram with nothing else running bar 1 CSS server running de_train.Tickrate of 66 and 14 players and the CPU maxes out meaning that when players spawn there is a severe stuttering. I would like to run tickrate at 60-100 but CPU overhead is insane. (Although bullet reg is amazing). Anyone else with similar problems? Richy ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate
I would recomend that all server owner tell their users what tickrate they are using. I've been testing tickrate, and it is rather vitial that users set their cl_cmdrate cl_updaterate = tickrate. So please tell, or else its a big waste. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate
What makes you come to the conclusion that users must set their rates differently? - Original Message - From: Jesper Sørensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 03:37 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate I would recomend that all server owner tell their users what tickrate they are using. I've been testing tickrate, and it is rather vitial that users set their cl_cmdrate cl_updaterate = tickrate. So please tell, or else its a big waste. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate
I said they should set the equal or less to the server tickrate. Well they can do whatever they like, but I gurantee you they wont enjoy it at all. Problem is, with values high than the tickrate you get a shit load of local prediction errors, and you really dont want those. /Jesper List Keeper wrote: What makes you come to the conclusion that users must set their rates differently? - Original Message - From: Jesper Sørensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 03:37 PM Subject: Re: [hlds_linux] CPU Usage with higher tickrate I would recomend that all server owner tell their users what tickrate they are using. I've been testing tickrate, and it is rather vitial that users set their cl_cmdrate cl_updaterate = tickrate. So please tell, or else its a big waste. ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux . ___ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds_linux
