Burning iMac G3 (333MHz) installation CDs
I recently purchased an iMac G3 (http://lowendmac.com/1999/imac-rev-d/) in really good shape. It came with the original installation/recovery discs but they are in Dutch, and are for Mac OS 8.5.1. The discs still works fine, but I'd like to install an English version of 8.6 instead. I have an ISO image of the installation CDs for this exact model (8.6 and in English), but I am finding it impossible to burn them to a CD. I have tried: * Disc Utility on OS X 10.10.2. This was my obvious first choice. * Toast 5 Titanium on OS X 10.1 (on my Power Mac G4). I used this version because it has a Mac Volume option, as well as a Bootable checkbox. * Different brands CD-Rs. * Different ISO images (8.6 Retail, iMac Install, iMac Recovery). * Burning at low speeds (between 1x and 4x). But none of them are readable on the iMac. The iMac tried to read the disc but tells me it cannot read it and asks me to initialize it. Sometimes the disc does show up on the desktop, and I can read it (slowly), but it cannot boot from it. The disc is readable on my iBook (original clamshell running 9.1) although I cannot boot from it there as well. Any help? -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups iMac Group group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Playing video on a slot-loading iMac G3
On Jan 23, 2013, at 1:44 AM, Clark Martin wrote: I think you are pretty much stuck though, other than using DVD playback, the G3 just isn't up to full sized video playback. Not entirely. I've had the same problem trying to figure out how to make G3-compatible videos with my modern Intel setup, but it is certainly doable. I've got plenty of large (up to 640x480) commercials from the Apple website circa 1999-2001 that play beautifully even on my PDQ. There is definitely a way to make decent quality Quicktime videos play on a G3 Mac, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to do it. Steven -- -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Bwahahahaha!!!
On Mar 9, 2011, at 4:52 PM, J. R. Rosen wrote: So does this mean that you can run Classic on an Intel iMac? Is that what I'm understanding here? Are you kidding? By the way, here's my iMac running OS 9 via SheepShaver: http://www.flickr.com/photos/obi1kenobi1/5513549740/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/obi1kenobi1/5512953113/ Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Stupid question #216
On Jan 24, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Ashgrove wrote: On Jan 24, 2:23 pm, Mystic Prowler coolmar...@gmail.com wrote: I do agree that the Wallstreet Powerbook's Keyboard is the best looking. Imagine it with a bronze backlight? Why did you have to do THAT to me, you horrible person, you? Now I am daydreaming. I love the G3 PB form factor, especially the Wallstreet's (for some reason, a heavy squarish laptop built like a tank appeals to me more than its supermodel-like Intel descendants). A Wallstreet with a bronze backlight, a high-def full screen, an Intel CPU and, say, 8 gigs of RAM. Wouldn't it be something. I wonder if it would be possible to squeeze the innards of a Mac Mini or a netbook into that beast… I love my Wallstreet, but it isn't my absolute favorite Apple laptop of all time. I prefer the keyboards on some older models, like the 100 and 1400 series, though I do agree that the Wallstreet's is very good. But if I could choose a dream laptop it would be an Intel PowerBook Duo 280. It is as thin and light as a modern PC laptop, sized half way between a Netbook and a real computer (sort of like the new smaller MacBook Air), and it would be the 280, not the 280c, because the black and white models had a 16x10 screen, which would be perfect for a high resolution display somewhere around 1440x900. I even made a mockup in Photoshop: http://www.flickr.com/photos/obi1kenobi1/5388310902/ Of course, if we are talking pure fantasy, I bet the Duo could scale up to 17 and still look super sleek, just fill the rear port door with all the fixins like USB 2.0, FireWire 400, FireWire 800, Ethernet, DVI, perhaps even hide the PC card back there, put a USB and FireWire port behind the feet, and add a BD-RE drive along the side (thanks to the Snow White pinstripes, an optical drive slot wouldn't mess with the look too much). And move that battery somewhere else so that the front looks more symmetrical (or add another to the other side, or scrap the slot load drive and put a removable tray load there like the 1400). And since the case would be bigger, why not add in the 100 series' bigger full travel keyboard, or even customize the keyboard to add more keys (F1-F12, inverted T directional keys, maybe even a number pad) But keep the trackball, just rewire the top button to act as right click. Of course, while increasing technology might make it easy to fit a MacBook Air into a Duo soon, a 17 duo is next to impossible. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: LEM nanny note: trim posts please
On Dec 13, 2010, at 11:00 AM, Joshua Juran wrote: That's a result of Reply-To pointing to the list, which is inadvisable (for exactly this reason, i.e. accidentally sending private replies to the list) and (as of RFC 2822 (April 2001)) not standards-compliant. That's fine for something like the swap list, where almost all replies are sent off-list, but here 99.9% of the replies go to the list. I think in this case it makes a lot more sense to have the reply link point to the group rather than the individual. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Screen resolution on TV
First off, S-Video or Composite Video (RCA) can only handle analog TV resolutions. If you think you are having a hard time working at 1024x768, try to imagine being limited to 640x480, and interlaced at that. To get higher resolutions, try to figure out a way to hook it up via DVI or HDMI. I don't know anything about that particular TV or graphics card, but at 65 I would assume that the television in question is a Full HD 1080p model. In that case you should be able to run it at 1920x1080, the same resolution as the the current 21.5 iMac and very readable with a nice big work area, assuming the graphics card can handle resolutions that high. Also, whatever the resolution of the television, I would recommend using the native resolution (1920x1080 for 1080p, 1280x720 for 720p, and in between for other TVs. In general, just the highest resolution available) because then the television won't need to resize the pixels and it will produce the sharpest image, solving your blurry screen problem. Steven On Nov 26, 2010, at 7:33 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I recently bought a 65 Plasma screen TV for my power mac G4 sawtooth. I am thinking about getting one of those DVI to S-video/TV input adapters that Apple has for my computer to achieve better screen resolution. Currently, the screen is a little blurry with a 1024x768 resolution. Is it possible to boost that to maybe... 1600x1200 and get the fonts more readable? Also, I have am ATI Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB AGP card in my Sawtooth that came from a PC but was flashed. Will the adapter work and can I get my better screen resolutions? -- Sent from my Power Mac G4 Sawtooth iSaw It's anyway, anyhow, anywhere you choose it. -Me -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard on a 2x450 PowerMac
I understand what you mean, but in my case I was referring to things like PowerBook specific code being left out of the iMac disk (just a hypothetical example), and so on. Apple didn't remove PowerPC code until Snow Leopard, even from Intel builds, which is why installing Snow Leopard opens up a couple gigabytes of free space. Also, I was just saying that misterbleepy's logic was reasonable. I don't know any details about the various machine-specific disks other than the fact that certain disks will refuse to install on machines other than the ones they were designed for. Steven On Nov 30, 2010, at 1:20 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: Not necessarily though. I was able to boot from and install Mac OS X Leopard on my G4 iMac 800 using my Macbook Pro system install disk version 10.5.2. It had both the PowerPC Code and the Intel code even though it was specifically designed for the intel machine. I am not lying, go check it out for yourself. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Tina K. penguir...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/11/30 11:38, Steven so eloquently wrote: That sounds right. If you'll remember, when Snow Leopard came out one of the biggest improvements was gigabytes of hard drive space freed up, since there was no more doubled PowerPC code. I think it is reasonable to assume that a retail disk installs all possible software while machine specific disks are more optimized. Thank you misterbleepy and Steven, that is good to know. Tina -- iMac 20 USB 2 1.25GHz G4 2GB RAM GeForce FX 5200 Ultra 64MB DDR Gnome/Ubuntu 10.10 Power Mac June 04 2GHz G5DP 8GB RAM GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL 256MB Leopard 10.5.8 PowerBook G4 15 HiRes DLSD 1.67GHz G4 2GB RAM Radeon 9700 128MB DDR Leopard 10.5.8 -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard on a 2x450 PowerMac
On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:15 AM, misterbleepy wrote: It suggests an OSX install installs all the OS code for all supported hardware, but other than my experience with the above, I have no actual proof that is the case. That sounds right. If you'll remember, when Snow Leopard came out one of the biggest improvements was gigabytes of hard drive space freed up, since there was no more doubled PowerPC code. I think it is reasonable to assume that a retail disk installs all possible software while machine specific disks are more optimized. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 30, 2010, at 1:44 PM, Ashgrove wrote: My oldest Mac is a PDQ Wallstreet. It's over 12 years old, yet it can run Tiger (I mostly run OS 9 on it, though). And it's amazingly, completely usable. You can surf the Web (kudos to Cameron's Classilla here), send emails, work, watch movies, listen to music... And it's perfectly ergonomic for writing, in a way that no newer computer is: the height, the curvy topcase, the peerless keyboard... I recently got a PDQ (although for me it is the newest in my old mac collection) and I was amazed at how useful it is. All of my old Mac laptops are usable for certain things, and my PowerBook 3400c almost approaches being useful as an everyday laptop if it weren't for the low resolution screen and slow processor. The PDQ, on the other hand, can handle many things, like basic web browsing, iTunes, QuickTime videos, and even competent multimedia editing when using old versions of photoshop or iMovie. I've been using it to take notes in college, since the lack of wireless capability reduces potential distractions and most of the time I don't need my PowerBook G4 in class. I'm a big believer in the usefulness of old computers. My PowerBook 145b has one of the most comfortable laptop keyboards I have ever used, and my Apple //c has taught me more about programming than any modern tutorials, though Basic is certainly not as useful as some of the more modern languages. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac platform
On Oct 30, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: Let's hope that happens. To be honest, I only want intel to crash and burn to stop Microsoft in it's tracks. Based on Apple's history, that could easily happen. Back in the Motorola days IBM was Apple's biggest competitor, and after Motorola couldn't keep up any more they switched to IBM. Now IBM is a rotting shell of the company that introduced the IBM PC, so they move on to Intel. I don't think Apple will destroy Intel (after all, IBM processors are still used in several game consoles), but either way they will probably switch to a new processor somewhere around 2014 to 2018 (they have switched every decade like clockwork, from 6502 to 68k in 1984, 68k to PowerPC in 1994, and PowerPC to Intel in 2006), but by then there could be a die hard Intel crowd just like the PowerPC crowd of today and the Motorola crowd of the 1990s. Personally, I hope that Apple will use the resources of P.A. Semi and what they have learned from the A4 to return to RISC, and since P.A. Semi was working on Power Architecture designs I don't think that is an unreasonable prediction. Technically it won't be PowerPC, but it would have all the benefits without the problems with the G5 (they were working on powerful yet efficient processors) and it would be designed by Apple, so that's good enough for me. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: New Mac platform
On Oct 29, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Dan wrote: Back in the PPC days, we considered buying AppleCare because it often never got used. These days, I will not sell or recommend ANY x86 based Mac without it. My Intel iMac has given me much less trouble than my iBook G4, and my father's MacBook has lasted much longer than his iBook. From my experience Intel Macs have been much more reliable than PowerPC models, though I attribute that to the constant refining and improvement of the designs, not which chip the computers use. I must say, though, that PowerPC laptops were much more usable, with removable batteries, PC cards, and a huge amount of ports. Now the side of the 17 MacBook Pro looks like an Ice iBook G3, very simple in comparison to the side of the 17 PowerBook G4. Sure, the new one may have more USB ports, but I'd rather have FireWire 400, S-Video, a real DVI port, and a PC card port any day (and, while I think dial-up should have been vanquished a decade ago, it is nice to have a modem for when I'm somewhere that doesn't have real internet, or if I need to send a fax). And, of course, PowerPC computers had much better names. MacBook sounds like what a Dell hacked to run OS X should be called, and Mac Pro is even more uninspired. PowerBook was one of the best product names of all time and I still can't believe that Apple just abandoned it for such an awful name, plus now the grid that Steve Jobs made such a big deal over no longer works (sure Mac Pro and MacBook Pro match, but what is iMac doing there?). PowerPC will always be my favorite, but when even the newest models are four years old (with designs that are five years old), they are quickly becoming unusable for many purposes. Most modern video sites like Netflix and Hulu won't even run properly, if at all, on PowerPC. At least it looks like my PowerBook G4 will still serve me well as a secondary laptop for a while longer, but the days of being able to use a PowerPC computer as a primary desktop in the modern world are over. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 28, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: The iMac G5 is perfectly useful... but no new version of Mac OS X supports it anymore. It is a powerful, 64-bit computer that will last until 128-bit computers start peeking through the markets I'm not going to defend the way Apple has gone from extremely long product support to extremely short over the past few years, but your logic isn't quite right. The 1984 Macintosh was technically a 32 bit computer, and while I would love to have one for my collection, it is in no way useful for 90% of the things you could do with the newest 32 bit computers (except, of course, word processing, where the lack of internet and multimedia capabilities give it a huge advantage). The G5 series is still a very useful line of machines, but they are getting older, and just because they are 64 bit doesn't mean they will never be obsolete. Secondly, according to what I understand about 8/16/32/64/128 bit computing technologies, there won't be 128 bit home computers for a very very long time, since they don't offer much improvement over 64 bit for most purposes. Also, you can clearly see the trend in the history of home computing: 8 bit was common in the late 1970s before it was replaced by 16 bit PC compatibles in the early 1980s, then 32 bit became common in the late 1980s and early 1990s, and it wasn't until the past few years that 64 bit became really common. based on that, 128 bit home computers probably won't show up for another 20 or 30 years. Of course, lately companies have been jumping at any chance to purposely obsolete a device or technology, so I could be wrong. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:24 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: Yes it sure will be. Strange to know that some Macs shipped with OS X 10.5 and can only go to OS X 10.6. I don't see any reason to assume that Lion will drop support for early Intel processors. The three year life of the final PowerPC Macs (2006 to Snow Leopard in 2009) was unprecedented. Even the G3 processor required by the final release version of Mac OS X in 2001 allowed four year old Power Macintosh computers from 1997 to run the new software. While I don't necessarily like it, I do understand why they dropped support, and now that the software is all-Intel there is no reason that the next two or three releases would need to drop support (once again, consider early OS X - support for the systems remained exactly the same (any G3 processor) from the earliest builds in the late 1990s to the release of Panther in late 2003, and by the time Tiger was at the end of its life in 2007, system compatibility went back eight years to the 1999 PowerMac G3). They may increase the RAM requirement, and from the video demonstrations it will require a Magic Mouse or multitouch trackpad, but I think the processors are probably safe. OS X 10.6 is all about optimization and 64-bit stuff. G5's are 64-bit, so why drop support for them? They dropped support for G5 because it is an entirely different architecture. Just because they are 64 bit doesn't mean they are in any way similar to Intel chips, and keeping software up to date for two completely different architectures causes programs to become bloated with unnecessary code. While I still prefer PowerPC and wish I could use some of Snow Leopard's features on my PowerBook G4, I understand why they did it. Apple is trying to move away from PowerPC and force software developers to design for Intel processors, and they are trying not to repeat the switch from OS 9 to OS X, where even years after everyone had moved on many programs, including some of Apple's own, were still built with the tools originally meant to serve only as a step between OS 9 and OS X. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mac OS X Lion 10.7 is no longer a rumor!
On Oct 25, 2010, at 5:44 PM, Mystic Prowler wrote: I do need a new MBA as my newest machine is an iMac G5. Personally I wouldn't want that. In my experience, the laptop should always have lower specifications than the desktop. When I first switched to Mac I used an iBook G4 as my main computer for three years, and it is not something I want to do again. I have found that my ideal setup is a reasonably powerful desktop and an older laptop. For example, right now I have a 20 Intel iMac, and if I wanted to upgrade my 17 PowerBook G4 to a 17 MacBook Pro, my only option would be the very first model, since it has the same specifications as my desktop. If I got a more powerful MacBook Pro, or one with the 1920x1200 screen, I would start using the laptop more than the desktop, and then I would be back fighting with the limitations of having a laptop as my main computer. That's why my plan is to upgrade to a 27 iMac in about a year and possibly get an older used MacBook Pro sometime after that. Of course, with all the limitations of the MacBook Air it probably wouldn't be so easy to use it as a main computer, but there would definitely be a speed increase from PowerPC to Intel which would make you want to use it more often. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Mp4 audio nightmare
My guess would be to change the extensions. iTunes knows what format MP4 files are by the extension, so if you change from .mp4 to .m4a it will know that it is to be treated as an audio file. Steven On Oct 8, 2010, at 3:39 AM, Jonathan wrote: Hi I unfortunately have some audio files in mp4 format, I have noticed that in itunes 10 they are treated as videos and the video screen pops up and instead of being able to navigate through itunes when the track is playing, I am forced to stare at a black screen with the video controls at the bottom. Does anybody know of a simple way around this, or will I have to fish through my collection and convert them? Thanks -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Best independent Apple forum
At least the Mac forums don't usually have tl;dr (at least I would hope not). There is almost nothing I find more annoying than someone who has nothing to add to a well thought out conversation (and is in fact too lazy to even bother to find out what the conversation is) posting a response telling the rest of the world that they have nothing to do with the conversation. Even more aggravating is the fact that they use such a short abbreviation. The least they could do is take the time to write I don't feel like reading all that or thinking up anything helpful, but I'm lonely and I feel like adding a comment anyway will somehow make me more important. It's mostly things like that that keep me away from forums in general. Apart from the LEM lists and the comments sections of certain blogs, I don't bother with forums because there is so little real information and so much useless bickering. Steven On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:38 AM, Jay Smith wrote: I am just sick off the sheer number of pointless, snide comments on there. Mainly in this vein: User : I can't get x to work because... senior member : if you use it properly it WOULD work, dimbass newbie. Why?! Just why?! -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: iMac and new EcoDisk
I've never heard of this before, but I wouldn't think recyclability would be an attribute when it comes to DVDs. Personally, I want my data to last as long as possible. As for compatibility, while they would probably be fine in a tray loading drive, slot loaders can be tricky. I have heard of people destroying slot loading drives by trying to use small or odd shaped CDs, and while the full size of this disk should help, if it is thinner and more flexible than a standard disk there is always a chance of the disc damaging the inside of the drive (or the inside of the drive damaging the disk). Just because the manufacturer thinks they will work does not necessarily mean that is true. For example, the Nintendo Wii has a slot loading drive that can take mini CDs, but that doesn't mean all slot loading drives accept them. I would probably avoid those disks until you hear a few verified accounts that they work in Apple drives. Steven On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:52 PM, beecaretaker wrote: Has anyone any experience of using the 'new' style EcoDisc in slot loading iMac's (or any other slot loaders) as Amateur Photographer (UK) has just started using them (see my thread:http:// www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0Number=929444page=0vc=1PHPSESSID=#Post929444) According to Apple (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2446) they are not usable (being only 0.6mm thick) but the manufacturer claims they work fine (Yes right, heard that before). Before I damage my iMac I would like your thoughts / experiences. Many thanks. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Sorry for replying so late, but I just realized that your description sounds a lot like a Photoshop drawing I did of Mac OS 9.6. Lots of shiny blacks and glowing blues. http://www.flickr.com/photos/obi1kenobi1/3017206820/sizes/o/ After looking at it again, mine probably wouldn't work so well as an interface, since the letters in the menu and title bars are too hard to read. You have some interesting ideas, I think I may have even seen something similar for ShapeShifter, but that was so long ago I can't remember the details. Steven On Sep 23, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Midnight rider wrote: The Apple GUI never fails to surprise me with it's eye candy since the days of Panther, and every new GUI is like a present from Apple to us to see and work with the OS in a new way. I like all of the Apple themes so far, and i think i will like the newer ones when they come out. If i were to have a favorite Apple theme, it would be this: Mac OS X Leopard windows that turn transparent like the Jaguar windows only without the lines when inactive or deselected. The Mac OS X leopard menu bar, only with the Mac OS X cheetah dark blue apple logo and when i click on it or go over it with my mouse, it will shine, and the selected blue box around it will be blue and glossy like the early beta builds of Mac OS X tiger. When the menu bar has any button selected like File for example, it will have the blue glossy button like the one on OS X tiger beta builds. And, on the dock, whenever i roll over it, the area around it glows blue with an optional apple logo shaped reflection on the dock. and, i'd like the same dock design as leopard, but only make the icons and not the desktop reflected against the dock, and make the dock glow blue. Dashboard should shatter through the desktop, and have a completely individual desktop on it's own, and when it reverts back to the desktop, the pieces of the desktop are put back together. when the system starts up, instead of the regular Apple logo, it should be a black background with the dark blue shiny apple logo like the one in the Mac OS X cheetah menu bar, and the outline of the apple logo should have a line running on it glowing blue, until the system is done loading and the entire apple logo glows blue. then, every time you login, it says welcome in some video in the same exact way that it was in the Mac OS X panther beta builds where a school of fish/dots in a giant circle turned into the word welcome, and then it zooms in past the letters kinda like in the Mac OS X leopard intro, and shows the desktop. That is my favorite theme. hopefully it's real or Mac OS X 10.7 has it. Sorry if this is too descriptive, this is my vision of what OS X should look like. blue glowing effects is a must. a good example of that are the buttons in front row. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Tina K. wrote: On 2010/09/25 21:24, Steven wrote: eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard. Tina -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I understand the need for the operating system elements to change over time, but, like the tab bar on the Safari 4 Beta, the vertical traffic lights are a mistake. They don't match any other part of the operating system, or any other operating system for that matter. Every other operating major operating system ever made has had the window buttons placed horizontally along the top of the window, because that's the logical place for them as there is already a title taking up part of that space. There is no title bar in the new iTunes design, presumably because they expect everyone to know what iTunes looks like. While that may work for one unique and well known application, they couldn't possibly get rid of the title bar system wide, so I figure this design is doomed. I'm fine with new features and appearances making their way into the operating system, but only when they make sense. Steven On Sep 26, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Midnight rider wrote: This is not a mistake, because i don't want to stick with the OS X theme for too long. the transition to OS X from OS 9 was a big deal for many people in terms of the UI, but people got over it as it is the way the next generation of Os's will look. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I'm not sure what you mean. If anything, vertical make the window slightly wider, since they go beside the application controls instead of above them. Steven On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:05 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: The vertical traffic lights make sense... they keep the window from getting too wide -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
While that is true, and USB has a higher peak speed (480mbps vs 400mbps for FireWire 400), FireWire sustains much higher speeds than USB 2.0, which varies, so it is better for video editing and other speed and large storage related tasks (like, I presume, Blu-Ray). I only buy FireWire hard drives even though I could probably get along fine without it, because I just prefer FireWire and I occasionally work with Final Cut. Although that is getting harder to do as even Apple is trying to move away from FireWire 400 and Macs are basically the only computers that use FireWire hard drives. Steven On Sep 26, 2010, at 12:08 PM, Ashgrove wrote: External USB DVD devices are cheaper and easier to get than Firewire ones, too. Just my 2 cents. F -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 26, 2010, at 1:23 AM, Tina K. wrote: I would tend to agree with that statement but Steve Jobs thinks that it will be online sales and rentals that will become the new standard. Tina That really annoys me, since I don't consider digital files to be actual things, just imaginary concepts. Sure I can listen to them, but in reality they are just magnetic states on a disc which, when read by a computer, give instructions on how to synthesize the music in question. I buy most of my music on vinyl, where I get a disc with an actual sound wave encoded on it, or reel to reel tape, where I get a magnetic wave that is an electronic implementation of the original sound wave (I don't even use digital cameras because there is no master negative, just a digital copy). Even on Compact Disc you get a much denser and more accurate synthesis on a physical medium. But I put up with digital music because it is so convenient. I can't go around with a record player, and even when the new Crosley Revolution comes out I won't be able to use it everywhere I can use an iPod, so I do have a large iTunes library, but when I get home I always listen to records and tapes. Movies are a different story entirely. All I need to do to listen to an MP3 anywhere is put on headphones. Sure, some may complain that you can't play MP3s on a home stereo, but quite frankly I don't want to play MP3s on my hi-fi because then I could hear how bad they really are. With digital movies, on the other hand, the only way I can watch them on anything other than my computer is to use my video goggles (MyVu), and since I wear glasses I don't like to use those anywhere except planes and a few other situations where I wouldn't want to hold up an iPod for a long time. There is no way to watch them on a TV short of pulling it out from the wall and plugging cables in, and even to watch them on another computer you need to somehow transfer the file first. And even if you do have a fully wired house with a high speed home network and an TV, there is the problem of quality. Just like with MP3, there is a reason that an HD movie on iTunes is about 1-2gb while a Blu-Ray can be up to 50gb. While most people never notice the low quality of MP3 because of the cheap iPod headphones or constant background noise when listening to music, video compression is much more apparent, especially with fast moving action scenes. Add to this outrageous prices comparable to infinitely superior physical copies, and it is easy to see that Steve Jobs' dream of killing physical media with low quality downloads is certainly not going to happen any time soon. The key to success on the iTunes store was low price point; while complete albums don't cost much less than actual CDs, most people only buy the CD for one or two hit songs, and in that case 99¢ is a much better price than $15. Now when you can pay $10 for a standard definition video or $15 for a DVD (complete with special features and a digital copy) that you can own, play on any TV or computer, and even sell later, it is not nearly as enticing to buy online. And considering that Blu-Ray hasn't really managed to make a dent outside of home theaters, in which case the people watching demand the highest quality possible and don't even consider downloads to be a real option, Apple really doesn't have any reason to believe that they will be able to singlehandedly kill the optical disc. And Apple's current stance would be yet another reason to get an external BD-ROM drive, since even the high end computer two years down the line might not have a Blu-Ray drive. I can understand, however, how some people will want instant gratification and won't care about quality or convenience. This is all coming from someone who insist on LaserDisc for standard definition (same resolution as DVD, but with uncompressed analog video), and 16mm for high definition (much higher resolution for good prints, no possibility of compression, and pure unmatched color in the case of Kodachrome and Technicolor, although I do have to put up with low fidelity monophonic sound) even though they are much harder to find and in the case of 16mm several times more expensive than even Blu-Ray (which is why the only feature I have on 16mm is a silent print of Charlie Chaplin's Modern Times), so I'm certainly not the average person when it comes to video preferences. From what I have seen and heard, though, most people at least seem to agree with me on digital downloads being inferior and much less convenient. Wow, that sure turned into a rant. By the way, sorry about that blank message I sent to the list. I accidentally hit send before I wrote anything. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
On Sep 26, 2010, at 2:22 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: They may be not immediately tangible, but you can, with the aid of an electron microscope, visualize a file on a hard disk platter; digital files are a physical manifestation of phenomena on the hard drive platter. I only used the term imaginary as a sort of insult to digital files. Yes, they may technically exist, but only in the same way that a song on the radio exists, not in an immediately available physical form (I can't very well remove my hard disk and play it in a CD player). Wow, that's an impressive display of cognitive dissonance. In reality a vinyl record is just a piece of plastic with some scratches on it that your record player decodes into sounds, just as a computer decodes a MP3 file. With tapes it's even more like digital because you're literally flipping bits of iron oxide in the tape. True it's an analog encoding rather than a digital one, but it's still a non-aural, lossy encoding of a sound. Try as you might, without the aid of a decoding device, a vinyl record, a reel-to-reel tape or a CD loaded with MP3 files equally make no sound whatsoever. There is a big difference between analog and digital technologies. Both vinyl records and compact disc do use plastic circles with information stored on the surface, but analog information doesn't need to be decoded like digital does. The very minimum you need to play back a CD is a CD player, with complex mechanics and computer chips, while you can play a record with nothing more than a paper cone and a spinning surface that can be moved by hand. Sure, it won't sound nearly as good as playing the record on a stereo, but you can still retrieve the data with almost no technology whatsoever. This is because the scratches on the disc are an imprint of the actual sound wave, and while they may be recorded and read electrically (or in the case of some releases since the 1970s, even mastered digitally), the only real process that goes into recording and playing most records is electrical amplification and manipulation. With a CD or any other digital recording, you only get complex instructions on how to reproduce the file. Perhaps the simplest way to examine the differences would be to compare the most primitive versions of analog and digital recordings, player piano rolls and wax cylinders. The wax cylinder can reproduce the sound of a full orchestra with nothing more than a motor, lathe, needle, and horn, while the piano roll needs an actual piano and is incapable of performing other voices or even simple stylistic accents like volume and intensity. Both technologies have come a very long way, but there still remains the fact that an analog recording contains an imprint of an actual sound wave while digital recordings are instructions that tell the computer how to go about reconstructing the sound. In reality the advent of digital photography has ushered in a true golden age of photography...you get feedback *instantly* on whether your photo was properly framed, exposed, focussed, etc...that instant feedback, coupled with the virtual zero cost of digital photos has let people get the amount of practice they needed to become better photographers. While that may be true in theory, the reality is very different. Rather than help them learn how to properly compose a shot by giving them feedback, digital cameras actually severely limit the abilities of the average user. Now rather than actually trying to compose a shot and take one good picture, people have become accustomed to pointing the camera in the general direction and clicking the shutter as many times as it takes before they accidentally get a good picture. While people used to come back from vacation with a few rolls of well composed pictures, now they have several thousand pictures that they will need to sift through to find a handful of good ones. This is of course generalizing, as there were many people in the time before digital who never bothered to learn how to take a good picture and there are many today who do use the advantages you mentioned, but overall knowledge about how to properly use a camera have fallen drastically. Even some professionals who use high end DSLRs don't have any idea what ƒ-stop and shutter speed mean, because the camera does all the work for them. Storage can be another problem, because while physical photos do take up room, digital pictures take up a lot of storage as well, and a shoebox is quite a bit cheaper than a new hard drive. In the end, most people switch to digital and never look back or care about the problems, but I want a physical master and total control of the picture, so I'm sticking with film until no one makes it anymore. Steven -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml
Re: ITunes 10
Right after I downloaded iTunes 10 I tried to replace the icon with the icon from iTunes 9 and it wouldn't work. I did some searching online and found an entire package of changes that brings back the horizontal close/minimize/maximize buttons, colored icons in the sidebar, original icon (it even shows up on the iTunes ID login screen and other places), and a few more UI changes. Now iTunes looks as good as iTunes 9 and has all the features of iTunes 10. http://macthemes.net/forum/viewtopic.php?id=16805795 Steven On Sep 24, 2010, at 10:01 PM, Po-en Tsai wrote: Heres a handy hint: http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20100901223846748 Thanks, Po-en Tsai - The first time Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is when they start making vacuum cleaners -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I love opening things that I know I can put back together easily (though I think that's how I broke the floppy drive on my PowerBook 145b), but I use this iMac as my main workhorse, and will probably do so for at least another year, so I can't really risk anything going wrong. The most I have ever done to a computer that I rely on daily is opening up the display housing on my iBook G4 in order to put one of those transparencies to make the glowing Apple logo look like the old rainbow logo (and that's just about the easiest mod possible on an iBook G4). Besides, as far as I can tell the white plastic iMacs were built just like iPods, and I mangled the case of my third generation iPod pretty bad when I tried to replace the hard drive. Being the technology nerd that I am, I have a 9 CRT television on my desk that relays everything from my main TV, so I don't actually need the DVD drive for playing DVDs (which is 90% of what I would use it for), so when I do need to use the drive it isn't too much of a hassle to use the index card trick (before I had my current TV setup, though, it would drive me crazy, so much so that I bought a $20 DVD player from Target to play through my TV tuner in order to avoid the constant eject problems). Steven On Sep 25, 2010, at 3:36 AM, Jay Smith wrote: Do you not fancy opening it up and fixing this steven? I'd love too myself. Though, you may not share my need to open things, lol Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
My third generation iPod was more like a 5 month shelf life, but that was mainly because I kept it in the pocket of a baggy coat and regularly (accidentally, of course) slammed it in the car door (which is in turn why I had to replace the hard drive). I learned my lesson, though, and three years later when I got my iPod Classic I treated it very well. I got it the day after the Classic was announced in September 2007, and more than three years later it hasn't given me a single problem (apart from a corrupt drive directory, which DiskWarrior easily fixed). If you treat an iPod like a Walkman, then sure it won't last very long, but as long as you treat it like a device that has complex computer parts, and (in the case of the iPod Classic), a hard disk drive, they can last for a very long time. Steven On Sep 25, 2010, at 8:06 PM, Midnight rider wrote: You know,,, not all iPods are 12 month shelf life devices. I have had an iPod nano 3G since June 18, 2008 and it has been working fine for me ever since. I bought the 8GB model, black, and it has minimal amount of scratches. for sturdiness, get a 3G iPod nano. features, iPod touch. the screens on then crack so easily... -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I'm considering getting a Blu-Ray drive when I finally get fed up with my SuperDrive and can afford to do something about it. The cheapest route would of course be an external DVD drive, but when I took my PowerBook G4 in for some repairs they said that they charge a standard price for repairs regardless of parts, something like $250-300 (which was a big plus at the time since I needed to replace a logic board that can cost $500+ from third parties), and I have seen some BD-ROM/DVD-RW/CD-RW drives compatible with Mac for around that price. If I were going to pay that much anyways I would want increased functionality, and, being the cinephile I am, eventually I will need to start upgrading my collection of post-2000 DVDs to Blu-Ray (all films made before 2000 I only buy and watch on LaserDisc) and since I don't have an HDTV and don't plan on buying one in the near future the Mac would be the only way to watch HD. My reasoning is that although I don't have any problem with the video quality of DVD and I don't even have a TV that could make use of the increased definition, eventually Blu-Ray will eclipse DVD just like DVD eclipsed VHS, and it would be more cost effective to switch sooner and start buying movies on Blu-Ray so I have fewer DVDs to replace later on. But I'm not planning on doing that very soon, and for people who don't have a large number of videos and don't care about HD that solution wouldn't make much sense. Steven On Sep 25, 2010, at 6:57 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: Should I pay the Apple Store to replace the dead optical drive with the same model, pay a third party to install a better device, buy an external DVD drive (that doesn't require opening the iMac), or just punt the whole issue and watch films on my 15-inch MacBook Pro? Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: ITunes 10
I really hate the look of iTunes 10, but there isn't really a new UI, just those odd vertical buttons and lack of color on the icons. I have a feeling that the vertical buttons will be a lot like the tab bar in the Safari 4 beta. Apple will try to justify it and back it for a short time, but within a few months they will realize how bad they are and bring back the standard horizontal buttons. The colored icons will probably be like the loading bar, eventually returning but maybe not until the next major version, because while many people miss them, a majority of people won't notice or care. The last time Apple released a new design that was largely criticized, the features that were removed eventually made it back, and I think that's how it will be with iTunes 10. Until then, there are plenty of ways to get around Apple's mistake. Steven On Sep 25, 2010, at 11:05 PM, Midnight rider wrote: Does anyone dislike the new UI? I don't but this is the same way i felt about Aqua when it first took over the platinum theme weird and new... and the well known What is Apple up to this time? kinda feeling. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
That's the way I work too. I don't just have a Cars folder in my Wallpapers section, not even just American Cars or Sedans, but folders like 1960s Sedans and 1980s Muscle Cars, leading down a long, winding path of folder hierarchy. It may seem obsessive compulsive, and it is quite a hassle when I need to go through and organize it every once in a while, but none of that matters when I decide you know what, I want my desktop picture to be a 1973 Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight and I can immediately find the right picture. Steven On Sep 24, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Ashgrove wrote: Anal-retentive that I am, I do download all those desktop pics manually and sort them them by size for my different computers and/or monitors. Then of course I sort them out by themes, and so forth. It is time-consuming, and I agree that it is unnecessary in most cases. But that's just me. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
Somehow I doubt that. For one thing, even the experimental custom built million dollar Ultra High Definition Television sets only display a resolution of 7680x4320, which can require as much as twenty-four gigabytes per second of bandwidth, so I have no idea where you could have found that kind of television or HDMI cable(s), let alone a graphics card for such an outdated computer. And even more importantly, even at 32 a screen resolution of 8600x6400 would result in a 308 pixels per inch screen, almost as much as an iPhone 4's Retina Display, meaning that you would need to sit centimeters away from the screen to see normal 12 point text. Either that was a joke or you made an incredible typo. Steven On Sep 24, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Midnight rider wrote: On my G4 sawtooth, I have a 32 LCD screen (actually a TV) plugged into it using HDMI with a 8600x6400 resolution. It is good for my photoshop, but the menu bar is too small. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I guess my phrasing was a little misleading. Aquamakeover is the one that is hard to find. A-Dock is still available online, here is the homepage: http://jerome.foucher.free.fr/ADock/ADock.html One thing I really like about it is that you can set a key combination to switch it on and off, just like the control strip. That way, you can bring it up only when you need it without cluttering up your desktop or overlapping the control strip (I usually have the control strip hidden unless I need to use one of the modules or check my battery life, but when I do use it it is nice to be able to get rid of the dock). Of course, you can also set it to hide and show automatically like the OS X dock, if you prefer that, but then it will pop up every time the cursor hits the bottom of the screen. Steven On Sep 24, 2010, at 6:45 PM, Elliott Price wrote: If anyone finds A-Dock, post a link! That sounds like a handy OS9 hack, I always miss the dock when I use my machines running OS9. Icon shortcuts on the desktop? Tacky... Navigating apps from the Apple menu? Tedious. Although, I remember when that was the cool way to access your apps ;) -Elliott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Wondering about issues with this particular iMac
I have this exact model (except mine only has 1gb of RAM), and it works great. The only problem I have had with it is that the slot loading CD drive became misaligned, causing the disc to jam against the inside of the case unless I guide it out with an index card. Judging by the reactions of the people at the Genius Bar, however, I don't think this is a very common problem. Steven On Sep 24, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Kevin wrote: I considering buying one of these model iMacs for my wife to use. She does, web surfing, email, iTunes and a little bit of iPhoto. I know that some of the iMacs around this era had a bulging/burst capacitor issue. Does anyone know if that was a problem with this version iMac? Are there any other gotchas about this model of the iMac? http://cgi.ebay.com/iMac-20-CORE-2-DUO-2-16-GHz-2-0-GB-250-GB-SUPER-DRIVE-/140457019941?pt=Apple_Desktopshash=item20b3e40a25#ht_1819wt_1139 Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
Wow, all of these posts really make me rethink my humble collection. I always thought I was going a little overboard, but apparently mine is quite average. One thing that really surprises me is how many desktops everyone has. I only have two, my Intel iMac and an old Performa (while there are several desktops that I want, like the iMac DV and G4 Cube shipping costs and storage are prohibitive). My collection focuses almost entirely on portable devices: Computers: Apple IIc PowerBook 145b PowerBook Duo 230 Performa 630CD PowerBook 5300cs PowerBook 5300ce Powerbook 1400cs/133 PowerBook 3400c/200 PowerBook G3 233mhz (Wallstreet Series II) iBook G4 12 1ghz PowerBook G4 17 1.33ghz iMac 20 (Intel) Devices: ImageWriter II Newton MessagePad 120 QuickTake 150 Newton MessagePad 2100 iPod 15gb (third generation) iPod Shuffle (first generation, lost) iPod Classic 80gb iPhone iPhone 3GS Miscellaneous: Mac OS 9.0 in retail box AppleWorks 6 in retail box Macworld collection (1997-2000) Mac Addict CD collection (almost every disc) Steven On Sep 20, 2010, at 9:40 PM, Bill Chapman wrote: Nah, you can never have too many Macs... well if you have more than 2 of the same type, maybe. Check my lineup: • Mac Quadra 610 25MHz MacOS 8.6 (my first Mac, secondhand 1996... all my Macs are secondhand btw) • Power Mac 7200 90MHz MacOS 8.6 • Power Mac 7600 120MHz (I think) MacOS 8.6 • Power Mac 8600 300MHz MacOS 8.6 (on my LAN, still in use... I'm a designer and my Wacom tablet, scanner and printer are SCSI) • G3 iMac 350MHz Panther (Bondi or Blueberry, not sure) • G3 Blue White Panther/Classic 400MHz • G3 iBook 300MHz Panther/Classic (Bondi or Blueberry) • G4 Titanium Powerbook 1.6GHz Leopard (on my LAN) • G4 QuickSilver 800 MHz Tiger (on my LAN) • G5 Dual 2GHz Leopard (on my LAN) I'm no where near the aficionados that you guys here are... I don't tinker with old machines at all. They were all (excepting the iBook) purchased as upgrades to my production as a designer, and all great in their day. On 20/09/10 9:33 PM, Jim Scott wrote: On Sep 20, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Ashgrove wrote: If all works out, my line of iMacs should be happy. In fact, I have 5 iMacs, and one eMac that could be considered an iMac. eMac G4 700 iMac G5 1.8 20 iMac G3 350 iMac G3 600 iMac G3 233 original Bondi Blue iMac G4 1.25 Interesting collection. I see that a lot of us suffer from TTMS (Too Many Macs Syndrome). I'm still envious of that 20 screen. And Jim got himself this year a 27 model, the rascal... ;-) Actually, Felix, I got my 27-inch 3.06 GHz iMac on October 22, 2009, only a couple of days after they were announced. That's not quite a year ago, and it's already been superseded by a newer, improved version. But it's still got that ginormous LED-backlit 27-inch screen which makes almost two of my still-under-AppleCare 20-inch Aluminum 2.4 GHz iMac. Yep, Felix, that's called piling on. Heh-heh. :^) And, let's see, I've got 3 Pismos, 2 Clamshells (with great batteries), 17 G3 iMacs from 233 to 700 MHz waiting for new owners through my Macs for Kids giveaway program, 2 G5 iMacs rescued from the angry capacitor gods, and iPods, iPads ... well, the symptoms just never seem to stop or even go into remission, happy to say. And my wife's still using that Mac Mini I bought from you several years ago. Jim Scott -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
All you need to do it go to System Preferences Desktop and uncheck the box for Translucent Menu Bar. There's no reason to buy a bad video card or download extra software. Steven On Sep 19, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Matt Rhinesmith wrote: For those of you who don't like the Translucent Menu bar, get a good video card that is only Software accelerated or Software: only to make sure the menu bar doesn't even think about turning transparent. Or, you could use one of the many hacks out there to make it opaque, so you don't artificially limit yourself... Cheers, Matt Rhinesmith Sent from my iBook G3 Indigo iBook G3 Clamshell 366 MHz PPC 750CX CPU 576 MB RAM 30 GB HDD Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
That's true. I just got my newest vintage Mac, a PowerBook G3 Wallstreet, a few days ago, and despite it being 12 years old the battery still lasts about three hours. Now, I know that certainly isn't the norm, but considering that the rest of my family's laptop batteries (HP, Toshiba, and Sony) don't last more than a few minutes (and haven't since they were less than a year old, even though they were used very lightly), it really says something about the quality that goes into Apple's computers. All of my vintage laptop batteries work for at least half an hour or more, the newest from 2003 (a 17 PowerBook battery that lasts more than 2 hours) and the oldest from 1992 (a PowerBook Duo battery that probably lasts 45 minutes, tops). If Apple can make batteries that last almost twenty years, why can't PC makers make any that last more than six months? Of course, one possible answer could be that most of those vintage PowerBooks were once top of the line expensive computers while my family usually buys budget PC laptops, but I'm pretty sure my sister's VAIO cost more than my iBook G4, and the only thing the battery on that computer is capable of is keeping it in sleep mode for a short time while mine still lasted about 2 hours or so until the iBook's logic board failed (and the VAIO is at least three years newer than the iBook). Sorry for the rant... Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Ashgrove wrote: Bill, I just LOVE it! That's pure genius. Imagine THAT. The funny thing is, the joke is really on them. Show me one PC that old that's still standing and that is worth ANY money at all... ;-) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
I thought I liked the brushed metal better when Leopard came out, but now when I use Tiger the Finder, iTunes, and Safari all look pretty outdated compared to the sleek look of Leopard and Snow Leopard. And while I do like the translucent menu bar of Leopard and Snow Leopard, I always use a utility called Displaperture to add the rounded corners to the top, and my favorite OS X menu bar might have to be the glossy blue and white design of the original pre-release version of Tiger. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 6:35 PM, Midnight rider wrote: I like the window theme of tiger where its brushed metal but the finder (dock and menu bar) theme of Leo and SL. -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
While I've never cared much for the System 7 look, I agree that the Platinum theme of OS 8 and 9 is great. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that Platinum is my favorite operating system theme of all time. And while the strict OS 8 and 9 Platinum theme may have the problems you describe, I think that if Aqua never came along Apple probably would have added many of the features they ended up using in OS X to make use of the larger and higher resolution displays (unless it is just an optical illusion, I'm pretty sure the menu bar and window title bars are much larger in OS X. A 1024x768 screen in OS 9 feels like it has the same amount of room as a 1280x960 screen in OS X). Some of the GUI modifications I have seen for OS X do a very good job of modernizing the Platinum theme, with smooth, 3D style gradients and even a Panther-style glossy transparent rainbow Apple logo. After a long time of trying out these various patches, however, I finally gave up, because there aren't really any that fully recreate the look. Some which have Platinum windows still have a modern menu bar, and vice versa, and if I remember correctly even the ones that looked pretty good had all three window buttons together, like Aqua, not on opposite ends like Platinum. It may just be that I started with Mac OS X in 2004 and never got to use the older operating systems when they were new, but there is a certain charm to the sharp, clean look of Platinum. And also, though apparently many people hated them, I really love the operating system sounds of OS 8 and OS 9. After using one of my old laptops for a while, using Snow Leopard seems startlingly quiet, though there is no way that system sounds could have been transferred to Aqua; all the system sounds would be drips and splashes, which would get annoying much faster than the simple clicks of Platinum. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 8:08 PM, Joshua Juran wrote: I've always liked Apple Platinum (and the System 7 appearance before it), but I can understand why Apple couldn't use it for OS X -- the stripes in the window title bar don't mix with live window dragging and flat-panel displays. You can see the noise in System 7 window title bars if you look for it, but the flickering in Platinum is just garish. (Hint: Drag an emulator window or screenshot to simulate the effect.) My favorite OS X appearance is iTunes 9. It's a beautiful-looking app -- too bad its usability doesn't meet the same standard. Leopard largely adopted the iTunes 9 appearance but kept the Aqua scroll bars (which are ostentatious in comparison). Josh -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: Leopard?
That appears to be a very early version, all Panther except for the Spotlight icon. The version I was referring to is more like the final Tiger menu bar, except with the blue Spotlight icon and a matching spot on the opposite side covering the Apple logo. Apparently it has become incredibly hard to find any pictures of the Tiger pre release version. The closest I can find is a video of Dashboard from the Apple site in mid 2004 (via the Internet Archive): http://web.archive.org/web/20040814085431/www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/theater/dashboard.html By the way, I love that the calculator in that video is displaying 1,337. Steven On Sep 22, 2010, at 11:50 PM, Elliott Price wrote: Hmm! http://betaworld.forcedperfect.net/macos104_8a162/ I do actually like the glossy Spotlight icon. The shipping version didn't have the stripes in the menubar anymore. :) -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
Re: considering a used iMac
I got a 20 inch white Intel iMac as my high school graduation gift in 2007, and it is a great computer. It runs Final Cut Express, Photoshop, and Flash extremely well, even with the low 1gb of ram that it currently has. If you can afford one, it is a great computer, and although I don't use any of the current heavy multimedia programs (Final Cut Pro, CS5, etc), it does run CS3 and other recent programs perfectly, so I imagine it can handle the most up to date versions. The Intel iMacs are great, powerful computers (but look for a Core 2 Duo, since I have heard they are better than the Core Duo in the very first model), and Columbia College Chicago, where I go to college, still uses many of these white Intel iMacs as audio/video workhorses in their Film and Video department (one of the nation's best). Since they are three years old and many people prefer the newer aluminum styling (personally I prefer the white plastic), you should be able to find a pretty good deal somewhere. I also use the Elgato EyeTV Hybrid HDTV tuner, which plays and records local HDTV along with analog composite/S video and cable (I believe the most recent version does HD cable too), and I have used it to copy some of my LaserDiscs to iTunes format. The analog video input doesn't look as good as it does on an analog TV, but it is still better than VHS quality, so that shouldn't be a problem for you. I have also heard good things about the TubeStick, but I haven't used that one. Hope that helps, Steven On Sep 13, 2010, at 11:04 AM, vsedri...@columbus.rr.com vsedri...@columbus.rr.com wrote: I've been running a PowerMac MDD for almost 7 yrs now, and feel it is time to move up to something a little newer. I can't afford an iMac right out of the store so can anyone recommend a used model? I do some graphic design (photoshop, inDesign) and want to try transferring some vhs tapes to dvd. I'm not very familiar with these and have always had towers that I could customize. Linda in Ohio -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist -- You received this message because you are a member of the iMac Group, a group for those using Apple iMacs and eMacs. The list FAQ is at http://lowendmac.com/imac/list.shtml and our netiquette guide is at http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml To post to this group, send email to imaclist@googlegroups.com To leave this group, send email to imaclist+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/imaclist
