KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Mike,

I hope you take no offence to my suggestions or comments. I mean to
judgment.

I find that many times when I get stuck on something that I simply need to
step away for a little bit or get another set of eyes on it. I then commonly
find some minor thing I over looked.

In case like this I may find a solder joint that is cold or a solder pad
that has lifted from the circuit board or even a zener diode that I
inadvertently installed backwards.

Let me know what you find.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: <mtmcgo...@aol.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Strobe Kit


> Jeff---It comes with a schematic and a pictorial layout. I will
> check  the solder joints again, and if it still does not work, I will send
it to
> you.
>
> Mike McGowan
>  N4288C
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KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

This is very interesting information for us VW guys. If you can trust this
information to be acturate, this is a major technology breakthrough.
Although it seems that the technology is not that new, it may be just now be
being applied to the aircraft world.

I have always wondered about the roughness of the castings of the VW jugs
and thought the billet stuff would be better but this information far
exceeds what I would have expected. It looks like these jugs answer all of
the needs, more power, better heat disapation longer TBO and so on.

Does anyone out there have experience and real world data on this?

And then it makes me wonder. Could a guy build a better VW using a scat
block, the right cam grind and crank combined with these jugs and get a
better, stonger VW in tyoe 1 or type 2 form?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" <da...@alltel.net>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:26 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Great Plains Sale! Limited Time!!!


That is a great price on the Nikasil cylinders, but be aware that you need
to also change out your head studs and the new ones for the Nikasil are
expensive.

I also understand that you are better off with the 94mm cylinders as the
92mm are much too thin at the top, for the amount of heat that they have to
deal with.

If you want to see what the real  NickiesT like, and what they cost, check
out:

http://www.lnengineering.com/index.html

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics
See you at the 2007 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for Flying
has begun.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
---Original Message---


Just stumbled on this one...  If you are in the market for an engine or
engine kit... check this out! http://www.greatplainsas.com/beetle2006web
pdf   Marc Lee Winnig

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KR> turbo

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I too have been fascinated with turbo power to as you say, to release the
genie.

I have a 2.2 turbo Shelby Dodge 4 banger that I was able to do lots of
research and therefore modifications to get a pretty reliable 360 plus HP. I
also have other turbo charged sport racing cars.

My desire to apply such knowledge to a VW or other aircraft power plant, is
not only the control of the boost, i.e. waste gate, but I have more concern
on how to properly control the air fuel mixture. This is because the fact
is, when you increase boost, you directly effect air fuel mixture. To much
fuel and we all know that washes the cylinder walls and we quickly waste the
piston rings, if the air fuel mixture gets to lean. then we experience burnt
valves and if it is to lean we can burn a hole in a piston in just seconds.

Of course the other issue is the higher air temps of the mixture, that's of
course is why intercooler's came to be. But an intercooler is not mandatory.

In the early days of turbo charging, the fuel mixture was a major source of
engine failure. The advent of computer controlled air fuel mixtures, better
metering of fuel by fuel injection, better intake systems designed
specifically for turbo's, map sensors, O2 sensors and so on. All these
technologies allowed for letting the genie out of the bottle with greater
power and more reliability.

Of course all those great technologies come with much greater complexity and
of course more weight. If I was building another plane and it was a lot
bigger then a KR2, I would not be as concerned. However, all the turbo
systems that I have seen associated with a VW for an experimental airplane,
all looked to be of the older technology. Not what I want to fly behind. I
certainly do not want to be tooling around the sky without the needed gauges
and systems to monitor a turbo and therefore making me wonder? Is my engine
running to lean, is it running to rich? Is my turbo developing 5 lbs of
boost or is it developing 20 lbs of boost?

As I say, I am fascinated by this subject and would enjoy hearing more from
what Orma and others have done and learned.

Jeff York
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N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Orma Robbins" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: KR> turbo


> Hi Net
> This reply is a bit late, but perhaps will aid anyone wanting awesome
power.
> Getting the genie out of the bottle is not a problem, keeping the genie
from
> blowing up the bottle is quite a bigger concern.  I wrongly used the
> rational.  Ford utilized a t3 in the turbo coupe and made 180 or so HP
> from their 2300 engine.   In the Turboford.org forum, there are guys with
> 300HP and up versions.  My 2366 type 4 VW has a shorter stroke then the
ford
> and is probably making way over the magical 100HP.   I was wrong in
thinking
> that I actually had time in the cockpit to manually control the boost.   I
> would always start with the waste gate open and set my boost on the roll,
> during the first few seconds after full throttle was applied.  keeping
> control of the power is the essential part.   Full boost would have been
too
> much for the engine as it could easily make over 40hg on a cool day.
> After one more vehicle project I shall return to my KR engine and this
time
> I plan to install a BOV.
>
> I'm not sure an automatic waste gate is a good idea.  at altitude,  how
well
> will it function? .
>
> I could not use full power and full boost at the same time between surface
> and say7000'   I have been to 10 and still had plenty of boost at full
> power.  I will probably have to fly it west to see what it can do.   I
have
> not had the pleasure of doing that yet.
>
> If I'm correct a smaller turbo spools faster but gives you less total
boost.
>
> Orma L. Robbins
> N110LR 1984 to present
>
>
>
>
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KR> Friday Gathering Record

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I am bummed. I did not reliaze that Gathering weekend was the same weekend
as the annual Noetown reunion that my father and I have been going to for so
many years.

I hope to see you all next year.

Jeff York
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N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:02 AM
Subject: KR> Friday Gathering Record


> Hello from Mount Vernon, IL KR Gathering 2006. We have already set
> another Gathering record. There are twelve KR's already here on
> Thursday. At this rate we will need to start making this a full week
> Gathering. Stay tuned...more later.
>
>
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Web Site: www.flykr2s.com
>
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KR> KR2s in/near Louisville, KY?

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Chris,

I am near Louisville. I live in Lexington. My KR is hangered in Georgetown.
That is abot 60 miles from you.

If you want to get in contact with me we could arrange to meet. You can see
pictures of my KR at my website , see blow signiture line or look under
completeions on the KR site Jeff York


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- Original Message - 
From: "Carter, Chris L (Jefferson)" <chris.car...@kctcs.edu>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:56 PM
Subject: KR> KR2s in/near Louisville, KY?


> Greetings,
>
>
>
> I am new to the list.  I have been looking for a listing/registry of
> KR2s by location so I may contact the owner/builder for a "tour"... I
> would like to see a completed one and/or one near completion before I
> begin serious research on the building prospects.
>
>
>
> Is there a list somewhere that I have not found?  Are there any KR2s in
> the Louisville area?  Many years ago there was one in Bowling Green but
> I'm not local to BG anymore and I doubt that it or the owner are still
> there either.  I should have paid more attention to it back then.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Chris
>
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KR> Sport Aviation Association fly-in.

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I am putting it on my calendar.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Sport Aviation Association fly-in.


> I am planning on making it, weather permitting, for one day also, probably
> Saturday.
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
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KR> Vertical Card Compass

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I have the Precision Vertical Card compass. They are out of Chicago IL.
There unit is FAA certified and I beloieve it is standard equipment in
Pipers and several other aircraft.

As far as working with the company that makes them. I have had a great
experience with them. I wanted to mount mine back in the panel. The problem
was that ther was magnetic interference with it in the panel.

I made several phone calls to them and I believe I worked with a guy named
John. They spent the time to help out me and my several year old compass and
how to resolve my issue. The fix was installing  magnetic compass shielding
and they even recommended who I could get it from.

I could not give a higher recommendation for a company and their product.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: <da...@alltel.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass


> I think they have been around for at least 20 years.  I ordered one from
AS a long time ago.  It was the cheap one.  It took forever to be delivered
because it was back ordered for a long time.  When it arrived, it did not
work.  I think they are usually very good if you spend the money.  I did not
want to spend that much money and am using the old air path.
>
> From: Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
> Date: 2006/04/26 Wed AM 09:02:42 CDT
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Subject: KR> Vertical Card Compass
>
> Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses?
>
> (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of
> compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled
> compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction
> Indicator dial).
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> Paris, France
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Re: Réf. : Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Man is the internet cool or what, Here I am conversing with a guy in France.
I remeber back in my young days as a boy growing up on a farm, that the idea
of communicating with someone in France was either by ham radio or by being
in the service and getting stationed in Europe.

OK, so some of the simple things in life thrill me. Remember , I said a boy
growing up on the farm. Did I mention poor boy on the farm.

Ok, to your subject.

Magnetic shielding is a thin metal that I believe has a high amount of
nickel in it. It is somewhere between aluminum foil and really thin sheet
aluminum.

You wrap the insturment in your panel that is causing the magnetic
interference. The shielding must be at least 1.75 inches away from your
compass. The method of finding the interferring source is to hold your
vertical card compass in your hand ( level) turn on your master switch and
radios. Then while holding your compass, pass it near all of the itmes in
your panel and watch and see which one causes the compass to ms behave. Then
wrap the offending insturment with the shielding material and wire tie it.
Obviously this would be on the back side of the insturment.

This seemed to work fine for me.

You can buy the Magnetic Compass Shield ( MU Metal) can be purchased
directly from Precision Insturments or from Aircraft Spruce. The part number
is 11-00973

Hope this helps

Jeff York
Lexington, KY
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:22 AM
Subject: Réf. : Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass


Thanks for the info. Could you explain what magnetic compass shielding
consists of?

Serge Vidal
KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
Paris, France





<jeffyor...@qx.net>

Envoyé par : krnet-boun...@mylist.net
26/04/2006 21:34
Veuillez répondre à KRnet
Remis le : 26/04/2006 21:29


Pour :  "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
cc :(ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
Objet : Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass



I have the Precision Vertical Card compass. They are out of Chicago IL.
There unit is FAA certified and I beloieve it is standard equipment in
Pipers and several other aircraft.

As far as working with the company that makes them. I have had a great
experience with them. I wanted to mount mine back in the panel. The
problem
was that ther was magnetic interference with it in the panel.

I made several phone calls to them and I believe I worked with a guy named
John. They spent the time to help out me and my several year old compass
and
how to resolve my issue. The fix was installing  magnetic compass
shielding
and they even recommended who I could get it from.

I could not give a higher recommendation for a company and their product.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: <da...@alltel.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Vertical Card Compass


> I think they have been around for at least 20 years.  I ordered one from
AS a long time ago.  It was the cheap one.  It took forever to be
delivered
because it was back ordered for a long time.  When it arrived, it did not
work.  I think they are usually very good if you spend the money.  I did
not
want to spend that much money and am using the old air path.
>
> From: Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
> Date: 2006/04/26 Wed AM 09:02:42 CDT
> To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> Subject: KR> Vertical Card Compass
>
> Has anybody got experience (good or bad) with Vertical Card Compasses?
>
> (Fore those who are not familiar with them, these are new type of
> compasses that are proposes as a replacement for traditional oil-filled
> compasses. They are dry, and have a dial that looks like a Direction
> Indicator dial).
>
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
> Paris, France
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KR> weight and balance standard KR2 tri gear

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, I have lost my paperwork on figuring the weight and balance for my standard 
KR2 tri gear. What paperwork I can find, I can not figure out my own notes and 
its important enough that I do not want to be guessing. With all this CG talk 
lately and the fact that I have made a few changes over the last few months.

I re weighed my plane but i can not remember what my moment is or how to figure 
the WB and CG. Everything I find seems to be for figuring it on a tail drag KR.

What I have is 252 lbs on each main and 180 on the nose, no fuel but 3 qts of 
oil in my Vw2180.

Can anybody out there help out a suddenly brain dead?

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.

KR> Die Hard KR folks at Sun N Fun

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Technology is great. I sit here in my van in the middle of the camping area at 
Sun N Fun. Thanks to Sprint's new EVDO technology, I can get high speed 
wireless internet connectivity out in the middle of a field. 

So I thought I would just drop a line to give an update on the KR's at Sun N 
Fun.I seen Bill Klapps plane and I seen one other. The numbers seem to be 
going down each year. However, this is a pretty big place so there may be 
others I did not see.

Brian Kraut hosted a BBQ at his campsite. I believe there where about 8 KR 
people there. Lots of great stories and of course, Dana Overall provided the 
entertainment with stories of fanciful flight and other escapades. 

No, I did not get my KR here as I have not been able to subject it to higher 
outside temps in order to assure myself that I have the oil cooling situation 
fixed. I also have a slight mis at 1100 RPM. It smooths out above that. A few 
words of advice from Steve Bennet of Great Plains and I think I know how to 
solve that squawk. 

Hope to run into a few more KR people tomorrow at the Great Plains forum.

Jeff York
N839BG
Lexington, KY.

KR> N357CJ is now an airplane

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

GREAT, COOL, GREAT, CONGRATULATIONS!!

I too am working toward getting in the air, well I am working to get back in
the air.

I finally got N839BG back together. I have been doing some taxi work and
practicing holding the nose wheel off the runway and generally getting back
to ground handling and so on.

With all the changes/ upgrades/ fixes or what ever you want to call them, I
had a few minor squawks. One CHT not working, landing light inop Card
Compass still needs a little adjustment but over all it runs well. Of course
my mission at this point is to find these things and make sure I use the
taxi testing to work them out, as well as to get back to the feel of the KR.
Also want to burn off that old gas before it goes back in the air.

I have been working all week at getting my bi annual done but the weather
and scheduling has not allowed me to complete that.

Hopefully the weather today will cooperate and I can get in the much needed
air time. I have decided to rent a 172. Can not seem to find an instructor
willing to do this in my KR. Probably all the better as that would be a test
of the CG envelope, probably not smart. However, I have flown it with 2
adults. Both of us where pretty lean. Me at about 170 and he was only about
145.

If all goes well, N839BG will be back in the air today or tomorrow, weather
and pilot proficiency permitting.

Then get in as many landings and flying as possible and make it to Sun N
Fun.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying almost again
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Joe H Horton" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com>
To: <corvaircr...@mylist.net>; <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:55 AM
Subject: KR> N357CJ is now an airplane


> Guys ,
> The deed is done and it feels like a relief although I know there
> is more to do. But I landed this morning after a smooth  and uneventful
> flight of 1.1 hours and a total of 40.4 in the log book. I had to work at
> it this week but managed to get in 6.4 hours and 10 landings. I explored
> climbs, cruise, decents and stalls with full fuel and up to 50# extra in
> the passenger seat. The plane and engine handled it beautifully to this
> point and I will continue to check it further into the weight envelope.
> All I can really say is that it is so exciting (almost orgasmic) This has
> been a dream as long as I can remember. I know that I was trying to
> design my own pedal powered helicopter and plane at about 9 years
> old.(then someone explained friction and energy loss to me). When I was
> about 10 I figured that everyone would own a flying car by 2000. It took
> a long time to realize that not that many people really had the stuff to
> fly. Six years latter than that target date I now own that dream. It's
> very real and a lot of fun. I want to thank everyone that has helped me.
> Some of you know that you helped and others may not know that they have
> through their post or simply being a friend with a common goal. I look
> forward to meeting all of you sometime and sharing more good times and
> knowledge that comes from the incredibly rewarding hobby of home building
> aircraft.
> Thanks again
> Joe Horton, Coopersburg, Pa.
> joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com
>
> PS. -- 1st trip is planned for one morning this week to visit my Dad. It
> is a 3 1/2 hr drive but in the time machine I think 45 minutes from take
> off to landing should do it. Breakfast for an hour and back to work by 9.
> Man what a life.
>
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KR> a little rough, a little miss @ low RPM

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

My Great Plaines 2180 VW has a little miss at low RPM 1100 or less. What I 
might call a bit of a stumble miss but very slight. By 1500 RPM or better, 
everything seems fine. 
It seems to me that it has always done this but I will ask for advice giving 
you as much information as I can.

Running a single mag ignition, autolite automotive plugs ( they are the 
substitute for the Bosch WA 8 plugs GPAS calls for) narrow gap .028 per Steve 
Bennets book., Zenith Carb, K cone filter.

As I mentioned, it seems to me it has always done this but I am wondering if 
some day on final , I go to pull the throttle back and it quits on me. So I 
will also mention that I am burning off some older Av gas, many months old as 
the plane has been under various stages of getting it back together.

Also, just a little note of interest. I just had Jet Hot ceramic coat my 4 into 
one exhaust. They do it inside and out verses others who only do the outside of 
the exhaust.

Anyway, since the exhaust coating, I can now peg the tach past 3500 RPM verses 
previously getting 3200 RPM and maybe on a rare perfect day getting around 3400 
RPM. I mention the Jet Coating since that is the only thing I did to the engine 
and then getting a sudden increase in RPM. Yes the days right now are cooler 
but the engine has 56 hours and has run on many cool days before.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
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Email jeffyor...@qx.net 

KR> nice day-visit

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I plan to be there ( Sun N Fun) so if you are bringing  mylar, you might as
well do a gap seal installation seminar, or at least let me watch.

Still in line to get bi annual done, I hope it happens today

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:59 PM
Subject: RE: KR> nice day-visit


> I'll save you the trouble of making excuses.  I will bring some cut mylar
> and the tape to Sun and Fun.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of Mark Langford
> Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 9:38 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> nice day-visit
>
>
> Brian Kraut wrote:
>
> >I put gap seals on my Stang in about 15 minutes.  My conclusion?  Mark is
> > just having way too much fun.
>
> I have a mountain of excuses, but I'll spare you...most of them.  I
haven't
> put gap seals on it yet because it's still in primer and I figure the
tape's
> not going to stick well, but you may have just shamed me into trying them
> anyway.
>
>
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KR> Cleaning out the X-Plane folder.

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, I might be behind the information curve on this one but, do you have a
version of KR-2 ( not S) on tri gear, standard airfoil?

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "Myron (Dan) Freeman" <mfreem...@indy.rr.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2006 6:36 PM
Subject: KR> Cleaning out the X-Plane folder.


> Hi Guy's;
>
> Since I have up graded to v 8.40 beta 6, I noticed that my X-Plane folder
is getting quit full from v's 8.16, 8.17, 8.21 and 8.32 and I"m thinking I
should get rid of everything that's not marked v 8.40 beta 6. Is there any
reason that I shouldn't?
>
> Regards, Dan F.
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KR> Sun N Fun

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth B. Jones" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 6:28 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Sun N Fun


> One minor correction:
>
> 5. The Porkapolis PigContinental A-65
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:23 PM
> Subject: KR> Sun N Fun
>
>
> > How many Kr guys expect to fly their KRs to Sun N Fun?
> >
> > 1. Me (Bill Clapp)..corvair
> > 2. Steve Makish...corvair
> > 3.  Mark Langfordcorvair
> > 4.  Joe Hortoncorvair
> > 5. Porkapolis PigContinental A-65>
   6. Jeff York... Great Plains VW 2180 looking good, close to being
back in the air, testing mods
> >
> > So how many morelet us knowmake a fling of it..
> >
> >
> > Bill and 41768
> >
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KR> Flyng with the Angels

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Bobby,

As I recall, I first met your father and you, the year he lost a prop on the 
way to Sun N Fun. I believe it wasaround 1994. I think it was determined 
to be a bird strike while flying in Georgia.

Your airplane and the fact that your father was flying one was the thing that 
solidified my desire for a KR. 

I believe your father spoke at a KR forum that year and discussed his 
prop loss ordeal. Afterwards you and your dad and a few others sat in a circle 
and I got to sit in the discussion. Another lasting positive impression that 
this KR and this KR group was what I wanted to do.

I believe I got the pleasure of running into your dad a few more times. Your 
dad and you both took the time to be very open to me, taking time to talk with 
me and engaging with me in understanding the KR and the whole KR thing.

Your dad was really cool. Not many people have given me the time of day in the 
aviation world but you and your father where very kind to put up with this 
anoying KR want a be.

I looked for you and your dad at many moreSun N Fun's but I never got the 
chance to meet up with you again. I had heard you had moved to Texas with your 
job.

Sometimes you don't realize how much of a positiveimpression you make on 
someone.

I am saddened to hear of your fathers passing. A true gentlemen, a teacher and 
a cool KR guy.

my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ Homepage with my airplane link


--- Original Message ---
>From : Ronald R.Eason[mailto:r...@jrl-engineering.com]
Sent : 3/12/2006 8:36:17 PM
To : kr...@mylist.net
Cc : 
Subject : RE: KR> Flyng with the Angels

Bobby,
>He will be remembered fondly by me and you as well. You will remember when
>I visited you in Duluth when you lived there. You lived a few blocks from
>my brother Jim. I have all the VCRs of you and him arriving and flying at
>the KR fly-ins of the past.
>I am still working on my KR. It's is closer to being finished.
>God Bless you and your Dad. 
>
>Ronald R. Eason Sr.[KRron]
>President / CEO
>Ph: 816-468-4091
>Fax: 816-468-5465 
>http://www.jrl-engineering.com 
>Our Attitude Makes The Difference!
>
>-Original Message-
>From: krnet-bounces+ron=jrl-engineering@mylist.net
>[mailto:krnet-bounces+ron=jrl-engineering@mylist.net] On Behalf Of Jim
>Faughn
>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 8:01 AM
>To: 'KRnet'
>Subject: RE: KR> Flyng with the Angels
>
>Bobby,
>
>I am truly sorry to hear about your father. I have had the privilege of
>knowing him for more than 20 years and he as always been an inspiration to
>me and to the KR group.
>
>Jim Faughn
>
>-Original Message-
>From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
>Of ROBERT E JR  BEVERL MUSE
>Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 6:18 AM
>To: krnet
>Cc: Al  Shirley Mayernick; Debbie Akiona; Alice  Ken Duvall; 
>GKCheerMom;
>Darla Mader; Jim  Joyce Muse; RJ Thomas; Cari Moore
>Subject: KR> Flyng with the Angels
>
>I just wanted you guys to know that my Dad (Bob Muse, Sr.) passed away this
>morning at about 4:00 AM at Kennestone Hospital in Marietta, GA. He had
>suffered from several minor strokes and other complications over the past
>several months. Daddy was soon to be 84 years old but he was still flying
>his KR (N28RM) at 81 when he decided to convert it from the original
>retractable gear to a fixed gear. Daddy would tell anyone that asked about
>how much did it cost to build his KR that it cost about $5,000. The truth
>was he had spent only about $3200 building his KR. The reason is that he
>built it to the plans as much as possible and he built everything (and I
>mean everything) himself, including the radio (from a kit). 
>
>Daddy was not only my best friend but a real supporter of the KR and
>everyone that was associated with the KR and especially KR Builders.
>
>My greatest joy was to have my Dad work with me on my KR and then when we
>able to fly wingtip-to-wingtip was a dream come true. I was so lucky to
>have a dad like Daddy.
>
>Daddy is now Flying with the Angels.
>
>A special Request: If anyone has a picture of N28RM, please post it so
>everyone can share his love of flying and his love of the KR.
>
>Thank You, Bobby Muse, Jr.
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> Sun N Fun head count

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Just wanted to start some dialog on who is going to Sun N Fun next month. I
hope to fly down but if I do I was hoping to bunk up or camp with someone.
I could probably find a way to squeeze my small tent on to the KR but would
still like to find out who will be there and try and get into a KR parking
area.

Fly down, or drive down it would be great to catch up with the KR group.

Anyone out there planning to attend? Flying or driving?

Jeff York
Lexington, Kentucky
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Sport Aviation Association Fly-In dates set


> Ed Janssen wrote:
>
> > Mark Langford attended a couple years ago and reportedly had a good
time.
>
> Count me in!
>
> Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
> see homebuilt airplane at http://www.N56ML.com
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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KR> Re: Avionic Instruments and ELT requirements for experimental

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I just noticed in my review for my Biennial, that it states that per FAR
part 91. That a ELT is required. This was something I always wondered about.
Is an ELT required on a Experimental?

I know they are a great idea but they are another 2 plus pounds to add.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@verizon.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:25 PM
Subject: KR> Re: Avionic Instruments


>
> >
> >   So far the only gage that I have from my KR2 is an airspeed indicator.
> >   What kind of instruments are  most commonly going into the KR2 ..
> >   What instruments  populate your KR2 panels?
> >Even in used turn-bank  indicators there is a choice of vacume,
> > or electric ?
> >   Dann
> +
>
> Check the reg's for the "required" instruments.
> I consider my panel as minimum and would still like to get
> an artificial horizon.  I have:
>
> 200mph ASI
> sensitive altimeter
> electric T  (go electric if you can)
> Vertical speed indicator
> exhaust gas temp
> cylinder head temp
>   fuel gauge for each tank
>   tach
> oil pressure and temp,
>   volt / amp meter
> vertical card compass
>
> This is probably pretty standard for most KR's with one or
> two exceptions.  Many probably don't have any gyro instruments.
> If you think you will be spending a considerable amount of
> money to build the panel I'd suggest you look at the 10 in 1 all
> electronic unit that Dana Overall had at the last Gathering.
> I think it is made by Dynon or something similar.  Help me
> out here Dana or someone.
>
> Plan you panel completely before cutting the first hole.  It will make
> for a nicer panel and you won't end up with things scattered all
> over the place.  I have a left side throttle and fly with right hand on
> the stick.  I placed all my switches and controls on the left side
> so I don't have to reach across my body or change hands on the
> stick to operate things.  A little forethought goes a long way.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
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KR> Re: Avionic Instruments and ELT requirements for experimental

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Great, add another 2.6 lbs or what ever. Don't tell anyone I haven't had
one.

Funny, I just passed my annual inspection without one. But I believe you.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Re: Avionic Instruments and ELT requirements for
experimental


> Yes, an ELT is required on am experimental.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://www.flykr2s.com
> Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net
> [mailto:krnet-bounces+flykr2s=wi.rr@mylist.net]On Behalf Of
> jeffyor...@qx.net
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:21 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Re: Avionic Instruments and ELT requirements for
> experimental
>
>
> I just noticed in my review for my Biennial, that it states that per FAR
> part 91. That a ELT is required. This was something I always wondered
> about.
> Is an ELT required on a Experimental?
>
> I know they are a great idea but they are another 2 plus pounds to add.
>
> Jeff York
> Lexington, KY.
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
> Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> Email jeffyor...@qx.net
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@verizon.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:25 PM
> Subject: KR> Re: Avionic Instruments
>
>
> >
> > >
> > >   So far the only gage that I have from my KR2 is an airspeed
> indicator.
> > >   What kind of instruments are  most commonly going into the KR2 ..
> > >   What instruments  populate your KR2 panels?
> > >Even in used turn-bank  indicators there is a choice of vacume,
> > > or electric ?
> > >   Dann
> > +
> >
> > Check the reg's for the "required" instruments.
> > I consider my panel as minimum and would still like to get
> > an artificial horizon.  I have:
> >
> > 200mph ASI
> > sensitive altimeter
> > electric T  (go electric if you can)
> > Vertical speed indicator
> > exhaust gas temp
> > cylinder head temp
> >   fuel gauge for each tank
> >   tach
> > oil pressure and temp,
> >   volt / amp meter
> > vertical card compass
> >
> > This is probably pretty standard for most KR's with one or
> > two exceptions.  Many probably don't have any gyro instruments.
> > If you think you will be spending a considerable amount of
> > money to build the panel I'd suggest you look at the 10 in 1 all
> > electronic unit that Dana Overall had at the last Gathering.
> > I think it is made by Dynon or something similar.  Help me
> > out here Dana or someone.
> >
> > Plan you panel completely before cutting the first hole.  It will make
> > for a nicer panel and you won't end up with things scattered all
> > over the place.  I have a left side throttle and fly with right hand
> on
> > the stick.  I placed all my switches and controls on the left side
> > so I don't have to reach across my body or change hands on the
> > stick to operate things.  A little forethought goes a long way.
> >
> > Larry Flesner
> >
> >
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KR> Re: want to put my DG compass back in panel

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I want to relocate my DG/ compass back into my instrument panel.

It was moved to underneath and center of the panel due to erratic behavior
when mounted in the panel. It is actually closer to the radios here then it
was when originally mounted in the panel.

Does anyone out there have any thoughts or tricks on how to resolve this
issue? Sheilding ?? Whatever.


Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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Email jeffyor...@qx.net

KR> How many flight hours before flying KR ??

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Orma,

I did not realize that my asking about your story would elicit so much
controversy as well as assumption that I was asking for advice or
information on just jumping in a KR and taking flight.. I just wanted to
hear your story. I like to compare information.

I have already flown my KR for several hours, however it has been down for
over a year for minor alterations and modifications. Thought it would be
down for a month. That was as I mentioned over a year ago.

Also my KR is a nose dragger, not a tail dragger. Several posts on the
subject seemed to assume that the subject was specific to tail draggers.

Again.my original request was just to hear your story.  I believe each
person's story has both entertainment value as well as learning value. I
hope to have my KR back in the air soon but plan to probably have a EAA tech
examiner/ CFI with me because of the length of time since last flight and
my bi-annual is do anyway.

Thanks,

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "Orma" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: KR> How many flight hours before flying KR ??


> Hi Jeff
>  After posting I did realize that There are a lot of pilots who have other
> experiences.   But, in the old days 84 all we had was the news letters,
and
> seeing a KR was limited to Oshkosh.  My first flight was a mistake.  We
had
> all been told to have lots of hours on the engine to ensure it would
perform
> as required without worry and to get lots of taxi practice.  I had about
10
> hours when my first flight occurred.  As most TD pilots will agree, the
> hardest part of flying a TD is the transition from tail down to tail up
and
> vise versa.  On my first flight, on a 50X5000 foot runway I applied TO
power
> and began the first of three transitions, all at full power.  As I went to
> lift the tail for the third time, I had both airspeed and angle of attack.
> The plane popped into the air and I decided to fly rather then attempt
> landing for the first time without the pleasure of having flown the
> airplane.
>
> This was all we had.  Everyone continually talks about getting a ride in
the
> KR.  You're not going to get enough to make you a good KR pilot.  Regs how
> require a TD endorsement.  As all the comments have indicated, even with
the
> KRnet, getting a ride or quality time in a KR is still not likely to
happen.
> After building a KR you have to get in and get to know every switch, knob,
> control, gauge ect. so that it/s use is automatic.  In the 21 years of
> flying the KR, I say that it's just another low wing aircraft.  Another
> point is that the average KR is not a high performance Aircraft.  Most
KR's
> are fixed gear and only fly about 150 at best and stall at around 52 mph.
> If built correctly, it will have a gentle straight stall.
>
> The old builders of the KR were motivated by Bang for the Buck.  It seems
> that today's builders by and large have more resources (money).  After
fight
> training, I could not afford to keep renting aircraft and decided to build
> the KR.  During my time building, I was only able to fly a few times, I
> needed to finish the KR for affordable flying.  After 10 years in the KR,
I
> had 3 hours with an instructor in a Cessna 205 Bird Dog (WarBird) and
> learned a few things to make the transition easier.  All of which were
> mentioned in the current or past threads on this subject.
>
> Although the KR is unique, cute, quick, it is stall just a light low wing
> aircraft.
>
>
> Orma
> Southfield, MI
> KR-2  N110LR  1984
> See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com
> See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm
>
>
>
>
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KR> Sign your post.

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Signing your post is a great idea. Some of the email handles so not help us
identify who you are and I travel and want to catch up with KR folks when
possible. Your name and location will help.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
To: "KR Net" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:44 PM
Subject: KR> Sign your post.


> Everyone, it would be nice if everyone would sign their post with their
name and home town. That way everyone knows who and where everyone lives.
This is very helpful plus it is just PLAIN COURTEOUS.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my NEW
> KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com
>
>
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KR> How many flight hours before flying KR ??

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Orma,

I think this is an interesting subject and of course I would like to hear
more about your first flight experence.

How did you find the aircraft to fly as compared to what you had been
flying? What steps did you take to your first flight. At 60 hours I would
not suspect that you had a lot of high performance time. Maybe you didn't
have any high performance time.

Your flight time and situation would be more common to the average KR
builder who is getting ready to make his first flight verses the high time
pilot who has flown a lot of different aircraft before his first KR flight.
There are probably a lot of first timers who have not even been able to take
a ride in a KR.

Of course your KR is a tail dragger as apposed to the very common nose
dragger that so many are building today. So a variation of technique and
such would be expected.

I am always interested in hearing more.

Tell us more.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net



- Original Message - 
From: "Orma" <o...@aviation-mechanics.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 1:47 PM
Subject: Re: KR> How many flight hours before flying KR ??


> I only had 60 hours or so when I completed and made the first flight in my
> KR.  I had no taildragger time.  No problems
>
> Orma
> Southfield, MI
> KR-2  N110LR  1984
> See Tweety at http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com
> See other KR spces at www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/krinfo.htm
>
>
>
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KR> inch vs metric. the whole story

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Every time I hear about the metric verses the American inch feet thing, (as
it is being called here), It reminds me of way back in the 6th grade.

Wow, I think that was like back in the 70's, or in metric would that be the
1778.00 's or maybe 1.77800's or 5.8's or 1.9 's. Oh well the 70's
sounds much easier for me.

But anyway,  In the 6th grade or is that the 152.400th  grade or the
.15240th grade or the or the .16667 th grade in metric. Oh I digress. Well
that teacher I had back then. Mrs. Alexander. She told us that it was only a
matter of a short time before the U.S. would be adopting the metric system.
As she told it, the metric system was a much more accurate way of
measurement and that the U.S. was losing a lot of money in trade due to the
difference in the measuring systems.

Well that was some 762.00 metric years ago and we ain't switched over yet.
Or was that .76200 metric years ago, or was that .8 metric years ago.

Dang I'm getting confused. Why isn't there a metric calendar and metric
years. Dang it all, here we are calculating time on the same dang system we
calculate U.S. measurements on. The system of 12. Twelve inches make a foot,
and 12 months make a year and so on. Why ain't there 304.800 metric days in
a year and .30480 metric months in a year and .3 metric weeks in a year.
Wouldn't it be that way if we really adopted the metric system ?

Who came up with that metric system anyway?

Just having fun with ya,

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "3343V" <33...@swbell.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: KR> inch


> Quique Alvarez wrote:
> > I *HATE* the inch, feet...
> >
> > I am study the plans of the kr2-s.
> >
> > When do the Americans change their metric system
>
> God willing, never. It would take me 20 years to change the way I think of
> measurements.
> -- 
> Steve
> 33...@swbell.net
> N3343V- '75 C150M
> N205FT- KR1 #6170
> He who seeks will find, and he who knocks will be let in.
>
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KR> Another paint update.

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

The paint looks great. Just wondering. You used a polyurethane. My
experience with that was a great finish but a very messy and caustic
chemical. I don't want to paint that in the garage at home again. I used the
PPG Delran. Maybe there are safer poly's out now.

For the graphics you may want to consider something I have done in the past.

If you have a speed shop or as I call it a Chrome go faster shop in your
town. The one here in town will make graphics for cars. You know, the one's
all the kids want to put on there rice burners.

They have a computer system that they can use to lay out different designs
and fit it to a particular car body. With a little help they can make a
basic aircraft image on the system. You can then pick and chose different
graphics on different paint schemes. The computer will then cut the graphics
out on colored vinyl. Then all you have to do is line it up on your plane
and apply. If you want you can then spray a clear over it.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: KR> Another paint update.


> There is a new photo of my final paint job on the fuselage at the bottom
of my web site: www.flykr2s.com . Now all I have to do is add the graphics
and the fuselage heads back to the airport.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com
<http://www.flykr2s.com/>
> Email: mailto:flyk...@wi.rr.com
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KR> Engine Options

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I am always curious about engine options even though I have a Great Plains 2180 
that I am very happy with and especially Steve and Linda Bennet and the great 
support they have.

Anyway, What kind of weight, HP and torque power band do these Geo motors have?

How about history, there seems to be a lot of crank issues with some of the 
other engines lately.

Jeff York
N839BG KR-2 flying


--- Original Message ---
>From : Brian Kraut[mailto:brian.kr...@engalt.com]
Sent : 1/27/2006 1:24:20 AM
To : kr...@mylist.net
Cc : 
Subject : RE: KR> Engine Options

I know a guy running a Geo in a beautiful Jenny replica. It is very narrow
>and has a great sound to it.
>
>Brian Kraut
>Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
>www.engalt.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
>Behalf Of curry
>Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 1:35 PM
>To: kr...@mylist.net
>Subject: KR> Engine Options
>
>
>anyone know someone running a geo in anything...would like to get some first
>hand talk on the subject
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KR> I will be in Kansas City ( Overland Park) any KR folks out there?

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I will be in Kansas City (Overland Park ) next week. I will be at corporate 
headquarters (Sprint) for meetings all week and thought if I have some time, I 
wouldn't mind catching up with any of the KR clan that might be in that neck of 
the woods. 

I always enjoy looking at other KR's for fun or education. 

Anybody out in those parts? 

If so, my cell number is 859-492-2360.  I will also have mobile email at 
jeff.j.y...@sprint.com

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
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Email jeffyor...@qx.net 

KR> oil change tips for a 2180 KR2 trike and remote filter connections

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Guys, Gals,

I make a mess when changing the oil on my KR2 Trike with a Great Plains VW 
2180. The nose gear and engine mount system make it impossible for me to drain 
the oil without a big mess.

Anybody got any great tips on how to improve this? Maybe some sort of modified 
funnel with an extra long drain tube? Anybody installed some sort of drain 
valve that you can slip on a hose and just flip a valve? I had a set up like 
that on my Cessna Skyhawk years ago. Any pictures would help.

Also, I want to replace the oil lines on my remote filter. I want to get rid of 
the household style plumbing elbows and automotive hose clamps and replace with 
AN style hose fittings. I am sitting here at home and I can not remember the 
hose sizes and am not familiar with AN connector sizes. Any help?


Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
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Email jeffyor...@qx.net 

KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic coating 
the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat 
industries.

Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you need 
to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet coating in 
this area. 

I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the 
exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get could 
carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes.

Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any pics 
of  cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to get your 
air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow for cold air 
intake plus carb heat and cabin heat?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
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Email jeffyor...@qx.net 

KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Is there enough temp difference to allow me to not have to put the temp rap
back on the pipes. The temp rap seems to be drwing mosture and causing
oxidation. I obviously want to get rid of the rust and prevent further rust
so as to extend the life of the exhaust. Of course I also want to lower the
temps under the cowl .

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:47 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat


> You are talking about a temperature difference on the outside of the pipe
of
> damn hot and real damn hot, not enough difference to notice on your carb
> heat.  You also need to have them coat the inside of the pipes, especially
> if they are not stainless.  If they don't coat the inside the increased
> temps will eat up your pipes a lot faster tahn if you didn't coat them.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 12:24 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Ceramic coating exhaust? with cabin & carb heat
>
>
> I talked to steve Bennet of Great Plains the other day about ceramic
coating
> the exhaust. He says he has done this to his KR and recommends Jet Coat
> industries.
>
> Hers my question to the KR net group. When using a carb heat muff, do you
> need to mask off the area under the heat muff so as to not allow the jet
> coating in this area.
>
> I ask because jet coating is suppose to lower the temps radiating from the
> exhaust tubes and I wonder if this would lower the temps needed to get
could
> carb heat and cabin heat off of the exhaust tubes.
>
> Also, I am looking to add cabin heat and I would love to get tips and any
> pics of  cabin heat plumbing. Did you drill hjoles in your exhaust muff to
> get your air supply or did you use a muff with 3 inlet outlets to allow
for
> cold air intake plus carb heat and cabin heat?
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
> N839BG
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KR> remote filterconnections

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Thanks Mark

I still need to figure out the hose size and connectors but I noticed this
pro lite hose is much lighter then steel braid hose. That shound be great.

Jeff York
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N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" <n5...@hiwaay.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: KR> remote filterconnections


> Jeff York wrote:
>
> > Also, I want to replace the oil lines on my remote filter. I want to get
> rid of the household style plumbing elbows and automotive hose clamps and
> replace with AN style hose fittings. I am sitting here at home and I can
not
> remember the hose sizes and am not familiar with AN connector sizes. Any
> help?<
>
> I used Earl's Pro-Lite 350 hose and other AN-6 fittings from Earl's.
Their
> catalog is at
>  http://www.holley.com/index.asp?division=Earls and everything you'd need
is
> in there..  You can either buy these fittings from your local speed shop,
or
> somewhere on the web such as DCI in Atlanta, at phone number 404-522-3497.
> There are a few details on the oil system at
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/corvair/oil_system/ , but I didn't go so
> far as labeling all the fittings.
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> CG and the KR2S

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, all this CG talk has got me thinging.

I am getting ready to install wing tip navigation/ strobe lights. They are
the Aeroflash units. I think the total weight of the power supply units is 2
lbs. Which is 1 lb per unit.

 My airplane is a KR-2 (not an S) with a total weight of 672 lbs. I am using
a Great Plains VW- 2180. I have a 4.5 gallon header tank with 7.5 gallon
wing tanks in each wing feeding the header. the CG location is 7.9 inches.

Considering the above and on comparison to your KR, Where are you locating
the 2 lbs of strobe power supplies?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Flesner" <fles...@verizon.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 7:00 AM
Subject: KR> CG and the KR2S


> At 06:42 PM 1/4/2006, you wrote:
> >The problem with these things is that everything you do changes the
> >CG-including leaning forward.  Ken
>
> +
>
> That's true on any aircraft.  I once flew the Tripacer on a clear
> , smooth night for 25 minutes without touching the control
> yoke.  After trimmed in cruise, I could lean forward or back in
> the seat if the altimeter drifted a bit.  A very slight power reduction
> gave me the decent rate I wanted when arriving at the home
> airport.  I tried to rudder the turn onto downwind and that's when
> the nose dropped enough that I had to take the wheel.   All
> airplanes play by the same laws of physics.
>
> Larry Flesner
>
>
>
>
>
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KR> Dana Overall call if you need a hand moving the RV

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Dana,

Give me a shout if you need a hand moving the RV.

I still have a trailer that should easily accommodate the RV. I just don't
have the SUV to pull the trailer anymore. The trailer is pretty dang big so
I would not try to pull it with my Mini van. But it's not that big. It is
modified to move an airplane and fellow KR builder Mike Warner has been
storing it at his business at the old drag racing park out by Nicholasville.

You have helped me in the past and I would be glad to return the favor.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Dana Overall" <bo12...@hotmail.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 9:16 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Dana Overall


> >From: "Mark Jones" <flyk...@wi.rr.com>
> >Holy cow Batman!! You got that RV in the air yet?
> >
> >Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>
> OK Mark, I know it is not Friday but since Friday is a holiday for
> mostThursday it is.  As a few of you know I initiated the
> "Big D" last year so I got the "oppurtunity" to build the house I always
> wanteda log home. The house was built with open space in mind
> and all heavy timber and T/G.  With that said, I seem to have added water
> and the thing grew.  Needless to say it has 4100' of living floor space,
> along with my workshop which is now 24' x 36' and a 2.5 car garage.  We
> started this house on May 1st and are now living in it. We did the entire
> house except for the T/G roof, so as you can see, I've been a little busy.
> During this time we lived in a 31', dual pullout, 5th. wheel RV (see, I
> still had an RV thing going) in the driveway.
>
> Black Magic has sat unattended for the last 7 months.  I plan on moving
her
> to the new house in the next two weeks.  The panel is entirely wired and
is
> awaiting the hanging of the engine.  Yes, the LCD screen is installed so
you
> can sit and watch a movie in the airplane.  I have been told by Elaine, I
> cannot start anymore projects untill after the airplane gets finished.  I
> vote the same.
>
> As you can see, it has been a very busy year, but enjoyable.  I now have
> somebody who loves to fly, work on the house and wants me focused on the
> airplane, life's pretty darn good!!  I feel the need, the
> needfor a good ol fashion weekend flyin sometime this
> spring.  I've got room or you can choose to campout in the workshop or
down
> by the waterfall.yes, we have a natural 15' waterfall just down
over
> the hilll.  Not quite a YEE HAA but pretty darn close.
>
> I'm now like Dan, there's a time for building and a time for flying.  Got
> one building job out of the way, so that tells the story.
>
>
>
>
> Dana Overall
> 1999 & 2000 National KR Gathering host
> Richmond, KY i39
> RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"
> http://rvflying.tripod.com
>
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Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

WOW !!

Now I do not feel so bad for doing really dumb things too.

While doing some engine maintenance one day, I forgot to fully tighten one
of the oil lines going to the remote oil filter.

As my luck would have it, there was a big party going on at the hanger
across from me. Probably about a hundred people. Of course this is part of
the reason that I will blame  for the dumb blunder as people where
constantly coming over to look at the weird little airplane I was working
on. This distraction my have been to blame for me not double checking my
work. OK, that's my story and I am sticking to it.

Anyway, I pulled the airplane outside, started her up and soon realized that
a lot of oil was being dumped and sprayed all over the place. Even all the
way back onto my car.

Nobody in the crowd next door seemed to notice. However, I spent the next
couple of hours cleaning up my mess. It actually only dumped a quart but
with a propeller spaying it, it made a big mess.

But, this is not the most embarrassing moment I have had with an airplane.
That would be the day I hand propped my Varieze and the carb return spring
sprung off and the engine went to full throttle. I ended up chasing the
plane and getting dragged for about 75 yards. I felt I had no choice as the
engine went to full throttle just as I was walking up to the cockpit. It was
either drop and get hit by the propeller. Varieze's are rear engine. There
was also the thought of it hitting something else or even worse taking off
without me.

I probably should not have told this story on the internet. OK I did it so
the rest of you guys don't feel so stupid when you do something dumb. Again,
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world


> I know it's not Friday, but all this oil leak talk made me feel like I
> should share that painful memory with you, guys!
>
> A few years ago, in South Africa, I was busy upgrading the instrument
> panel of my taildragger KR2. Obviously, the aircraft was grounded for a
> while, so it was a good time to do some engine maintenance too. Then, one
> day, I finished the new instrument panel, and felt like fitting it
> quickly, so that I could resume the fun part: FLYING! . So, after work, I
> drove directly to the hangar,  installed the new instrument panel,
> reconnected all the wires and lines, and prepared the freshly serviced
> engine for a  run-up.
>
> At about 8 PM, I asked Andrew, the Black guy who kept the hangar to open
> the doors. I pushed the aircraft outside, and got ready for the engine
> run-up. Obviously, I did not bother to put the  engine cowling back.
> Wheels chocked, tail tied town; I swinged the prop, and sat happily in the
> cockpit... until Andrew signalled that something was wrong. I shut the
> engine, and asked "What's wrong?". Andrew answered: "Eeesssh! Baas, the
> oil, she is too much!". And indeed, there was a very large oil pool under
> the  engine, exactly as  he said!
>
> So, I learnt my first lesson of the night: do not, ever, forget the seals
> when you put the tappet covers back, otherwise you are going for a serious
> oil mess!
>
> A few minutes later, tappet covers seals duly in place, all evidence of
> the blunder wiped clean, I made a second start, sat in the cockpit, and
> happily revved the engine, when suddenly, I got the disturbing feelng that
> my pants were wet. A glance down confirmed the impression: my pants were
> soaked with engine oil!
>
> That's how Iearnt my second lesson of the night: when installing the
> instrument panel, never, ever, forget to reconnect the oil line of the oil
> pressure gauge, otherwise you are going for a VERY serious oil mess!
>
> Oh, well! Now, my heart was filled with anger, so I smartly channelled
> that anger towards the one-and-only culprit: the MECHANICAL oil gauge!
> What a stupid idea, anyway, to run a high pressure, high temperature oil
> line inside a cockpit! What would happen if the line burst in flight, eh?
> Who wants to get an engine failure and a pair of burnt legs to boot?
>
> Incidentally, a few days ago,I had bought an electrical oil pressure
> gauge, which I intended to mount some day. Well, let's say that's the day.
> I am not going to ever start that engine again with that sillly mechanical
> oil gauge!
>
> So, I rushed home, took the electrical  gauge, informed my wife that she
> was in for a lonely evening, and rushed back to the airfield. By the time
> I was back, Andre

Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Bob,

By the way, that same day as soon as I made sure all was ok with the
Varieze, I got in taxied up and took off. As they say, when you get thrown
off the horse, the best thing to do is get right back on and ride.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world


Jeff,
 Those hair raising tales are almost enough to make a guy quite flying,
but not quite.

Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
rsto...@hot.rr.com

----- Original Message - 
From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world


WOW !!

Now I do not feel so bad for doing really dumb things too.

While doing some engine maintenance one day, I forgot to fully tighten one
of the oil lines going to the remote oil filter.

As my luck would have it, there was a big party going on at the hanger
across from me. Probably about a hundred people. Of course this is part of
the reason that I will blame  for the dumb blunder as people where
constantly coming over to look at the weird little airplane I was working
on. This distraction my have been to blame for me not double checking my
work. OK, that's my story and I am sticking to it.

Anyway, I pulled the airplane outside, started her up and soon realized that
a lot of oil was being dumped and sprayed all over the place. Even all the
way back onto my car.

Nobody in the crowd next door seemed to notice. However, I spent the next
couple of hours cleaning up my mess. It actually only dumped a quart but
with a propeller spaying it, it made a big mess.

But, this is not the most embarrassing moment I have had with an airplane.
That would be the day I hand propped my Varieze and the carb return spring
sprung off and the engine went to full throttle. I ended up chasing the
plane and getting dragged for about 75 yards. I felt I had no choice as the
engine went to full throttle just as I was walking up to the cockpit. It was
either drop and get hit by the propeller. Varieze's are rear engine. There
was also the thought of it hitting something else or even worse taking off
without me.

I probably should not have told this story on the internet. OK I did it so
the rest of you guys don't feel so stupid when you do something dumb. Again,
That's my story and I am sticking to it.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Serge VIDAL" <serge.vi...@sagem.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: Réf. : KR> KRs around the world


> I know it's not Friday, but all this oil leak talk made me feel like I
> should share that painful memory with you, guys!
>
> A few years ago, in South Africa, I was busy upgrading the instrument
> panel of my taildragger KR2. Obviously, the aircraft was grounded for a
> while, so it was a good time to do some engine maintenance too. Then, one
> day, I finished the new instrument panel, and felt like fitting it
> quickly, so that I could resume the fun part: FLYING! . So, after work, I
> drove directly to the hangar,  installed the new instrument panel,
> reconnected all the wires and lines, and prepared the freshly serviced
> engine for a  run-up.
>
> At about 8 PM, I asked Andrew, the Black guy who kept the hangar to open
> the doors. I pushed the aircraft outside, and got ready for the engine
> run-up. Obviously, I did not bother to put the  engine cowling back.
> Wheels chocked, tail tied town; I swinged the prop, and sat happily in the
> cockpit... until Andrew signalled that something was wrong. I shut the
> engine, and asked "What's wrong?". Andrew answered: "Eeesssh! Baas, the
> oil, she is too much!". And indeed, there was a very large oil pool under
> the  engine, exactly as  he said!
>
> So, I learnt my first lesson of the night: do not, ever, forget the seals
> when you put the tappet covers back, otherwise you are going for a serious
> oil mess!
>
> A few minutes later, tappet covers seals duly in place, all evidence of
> the blunder wiped clean, I made a second start, sat in the cockpit, and
> happily revved the engine, when suddenly, I got the disturbing feelng that
> my pants were wet. A glance down confirmed the impression: my pants were
> soaked with engine oil!
>
> That's how Iearnt my second lesson of the night: when installing the

KR> Update

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

You are not the only one working,. However, I can not really call what I am
doing really working because like you, it seems that nobody else in the
company isworking today. Only voice mail when I attempt to get anyone.

So I guess I will go out and get a couple of last minute items, cheese trays
, candy tray or something for a couple of the retail stores here in town. My
why of trying to say thank you to the retail side as I am the goverment side
of Sprint here in Kentucky. Not that any of you needed, to know, wanted to
know that, or really cared to know that.

Have a very Merry Christmas.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KR Net (E-mail)" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 10:06 AM
Subject: KR> Update


Am I the only one in the KR world working today? My phone has not even rang
here at work. Might just have to shut er down early today. Anyway, my plane
is in my garage being torn down. I have removed the wings, the rudder, the
cowling, the forward deck, the seats and have the engine completely
disconnected and ready for removal from the mount. I am doing this so that I
can do the final body work on the KR and get her painted. There are some
minor repairs that are needed and a few modifications I am going to do. I
also have to make a new alternator mount and work on my carb heat and cabin
heat. This gives me something to tinker with over the winter here in
Wisconsin, however, we are having a heat wave right now. It is actually 37°F
as I am typing this. This is the first time we have been above freezing in
three weeks. Hope you all have a very Merry Christmas.

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI
Visit my "NEW" KR CorvAIRCRAFT web site: http://www.flykr2s.com
<http://www.flykr2s.com/>
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KR> My KR Christmas present

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I had a  YEEE HAAA KR day yesterday, while at the same time feeling like I got 
a special KR Christmas present. 

Yesterday, I got a annual inspection sign off on my KR. 

As some of you know, I always like to error on the side of caution. In some 
ways a little bit to cautious. 

I always like to have someone double check my work. I feel my work is good, but 
I feel that a second set of eyes are always better. of course all you have to 
do is think about the time I forgot to tighten one of my remote oil filter 
lines and well, some of you out there know what I mean.  It is better to be 
safe then sorry.

Anyway, A's and  IA's do not seem to be easy to come by in this neck of the 
woods. I even have the same issue with getting one for spam can work. But, I 
finally got one to come by and take a look at the KR for the renewal of my 
annual. I have done a lot of mods over the last year or so and it was nice to 
have a professional come by and compliment on the workmanship and say  " this 
is an easy one, it'll only take me a couple of hours to go over it and sign it 
off"

That is alI I wanted for Christmas, and I got it. YEEE HAAA !!

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I would like a copy. Is it tail wheel or trike. I would like it better if it
had a training wheel.

Jeff York
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N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: <mfreem...@indy.rr.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 10:50 AM
Subject: KR> A Christmas gift to all KR builders, fliers and hopefuls


> I have a completed, flying model of the KR-2 for the X-Plane, flight
> simulation program. If you would like a copy of it, let me know.
>
> I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy and prosperous
> New Year.
>
>
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KR> A little hanger flying

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I was actually at a small airport back a few years ago and seen a mini max
EROS in an open hanger. I thought it looked like the coolest little airplane
I had ever seen. It reminded me of a RANs airplane, but I do not remember
the model. Anyway, the guy had painted the EROS red. I did not get to see it
run or fly as the owner was not around. For that matter there was not a
single person around on the airport. But as I said , my thoughts where "man
is that a cool little airplane"

I used to travel a lot more then I do today. When I would be out of town on
business, I would make a point of trying to find the local airport or I
would actually drive secondary roads just to find remote little airports. I
just wanted to be around airplanes. This habit of finding airports got me to
a lot of very remote and sometimes very small airports. Most of the time, I
would find the airport but there would not be a single person there. Most of
the airports would have the open community hangers so I could just walk
through and look at plane after plane.

By the way, one of the coolest airports I ever got to was, Washington County
airport in Southern Indiana. The FBO was manned by the local EAA chapter.
Everyone in the chapter signed up to share their duty. The fuel pump was on
the honor system and I think it had a box that you would slip you money
into. The walls where cover in the torn t shirts, solo awards. They have a
little fly in every fall I believe. I went a few times and it was an awesome
big little fly in.

This reminds me of the time I was at another little airport somewhere in
Indiana. A guy flew in with a small Rans. I think it was a model S-9 or
something like that.  Anyway , he pulls up to me because I was standing
close to the water hose.

He gets out of his little plane and begins to wash it off. To wash the
bottom of the plane, he grabs a lawn chair that was sitting near by. You
know, one of those web lawn chairs. He grabs one side of his plane and lifts
it up and sets the landing gear down in the lawn chair. He then could slid
under the airplane and finishes washing it. I was so amazed by this I had to
watch. We talked and when he finished, he climbed in, grabbed a pull
starter, you know, like to ones you find on a snow mobile, pulls it, the
engine comes to life and he taxi's off.

That was many years ago and I am sure it was before I had my pilots license.
Not that you wanted to hear all this but, what the heck, I wrote it anyway.

I guess this is as close to hanger flying as I am going to get today.

As far as the next KR gathering, yes I plan to go, but the next time I
promise myself to have the KR there. I thought I was going to have it there
last fall. But, I had not solved my oil temp problem, which as I mentioned
previously, may not have even been a problem anyway. Oh , and on that
subject, I also realized that my oil temp sensor is very close to my
exhaust, so I may have even been picking up inaccurate readings anyway. So ,
as soon  as I finish my baffling redo, I will relocate my oil temp unit
also.

Ok, its getting near the holidays and I guess I am getting a little
sentimental. Don't ban me from the list, remember, I did mention my oil temp
problem and the fact my sensor is to close to the exhaust so there may be
some official KR value there.

Have a great day,

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com>
To: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: Hi Jeff Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter


> Jeff,
>
> I can sure relate to family commmittments. I've had five boys myself.  All
> that's behind me now though.  Good luck on finishing up the plane.  It's
> sure a beauty.
>
> I just finished up scratch-building a Minimax Eros (if you know what they
> are) and is now flying.  I also have a KR-2 project that needs
refurbishing,
> so now that I have something to fly, I guess I'll get back to work on it.
>
> Maybe you'll make the next Gathering.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Janssen
> mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Hi Jeff Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter
>
>
> > Yes , I flew it several times ( about 16 hours worth) before taking it
> down
> > for what I thought would be a little cowling mod.
> >
> > The story on that is , a friend and fellow pilot ( who also built a
> > homebuilt and is a professional pilot, just to qualify him) thought that
> the
> > oil temps where to high.  We had been flying it around for several hours
> > when he noticed thi

KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I could be interested in that type 4 engine if you part out your project.

I might also want to sell my flying KR-2 as I have purchased a spam can and
I could use the money out of the KR-2 to update the panel and paint .

I know, you are asking yourself, why would he be interested in the engine
and at the same time interested in selling his KR.

If I decide I can afford to keep my KR then I would be interested in 94HP
and it would seem to me that converting from a 2180 to a type 4 would be
easier then converting to a Corvair.

You can see the latest pictures of my KR on my website if interested, but I
will say up front, this would not be a cheap KR

Jeff York
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N839BG
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- Original Message - 
From: <mfreem...@indy.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale


> I've got a KR-2 in boat stage with wing spars and a Dragonfly canopy
> with a finished Great Plains type 4 VW engine at about 94 hp that has
> been run tested.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Tim Brown <timwbr...@yahoo.com>
> Date: Thursday, December 8, 2005 1:40 am
> Subject: Re: KR> Looking for a KR2 project for sale
>
> > call me at PM.(909)337-6597
> >
> > ---  <t...@concentricenviro.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks - Looking for a KR2 project for sale.
> > > Preferably in the boat stage but will consider
> > > anything
> > >
> > > Tom Bovington
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I think Kip's story say's a lot for all of us to think about.

The fact that he has flown this plane for 18 years and never had this
problem. Therefore this was never part of his preflight. WOW !!

Sure makes me think of what I might be taking for granted or not checking.
This story to me is as important as any as it makes us re think.

Of course the best part of the story is that it had a positive and happy
ending, and this happy ending is what has allowed all of us to learn
something.

Jeff York
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Kraut" <brian.kr...@engalt.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter


> Good to see you are back in one piece Kip.  Now admit what really
happened,
> your wheels got hung up in the wheel wells from the snow chains you put on
> them.
>
> Brian Kraut
> Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
> www.engalt.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of louns...@midmaine.com
> Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 11:33 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter
>
>
>
> >   Just a note to tell you about a flight that i made today in my KR
that
> > can remind  all of us about what can happen  if you don,t take ALL of
> > the  weather factors into concideration  when you go flying. As a side
> > note i probably have one of the last krs that still have the retracts.
> > For those of you that made the gathering this year my KR was the one
with
> > the full clamshell gear doors. This is all relevent to the story.
Flying
> > a KR in the north in the winter  means that you usually don,t have that
> > many days that you can fly without freezing to death so you take
everyday
> > that you can get and today was such a day. The temp was in the mid 20,s
> > with bright sun and not too much of a cross wind at the field where i
> > base my plane. We had just had a large snow storm 2 days before  but thr
> > runway ws plowed with mostly bare pavement showing. As i taxied my plane
> > to the active  i passed over a lot of snow patches and damp spots on the
> > black pavement. Takeoff was normal and. i headed for a local airport
> > about 20 miles away. Ther was a lot of traffic at  the  field so i
> > extended my upwind leg a ways to allow for spacing. After entering
> > downwind i reached to lower the landing gear only to find that it was
> > frozen solid in the up position. Pucker factor riseing rapidly at this
> > point. After several min,s  of trying i was begining to think that the
> > only option was that i was giong to have to land on the ski runway on
the
> > belly. I tried one last dive with a sharp pullout while pulling to lower
> > the gear at the same time when it finally broke  loose. I proceeded to
> > land and when i got out to look the wheel wells were full of ice from
the
> > snow and water that had splashed into them. I flew home with the gear
> > extended with no further problems. Now i will have to get my plane into
a
> > heated hanger to melt all of the ice before i go flying again. This
> > turned out to have a happy ending but it could have gone the other way
> > with a plane that needed a lot of repairs. I have been flying this plane
> > for 18 years and this is the first time that this has happened. It has
> > given me a new preflight and taxi item to  check. Maybe this will help
> > someone else from having a similar problem.Kip
>
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KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

What I meant to say was that in 18 years of flying, he may have never really
thought of this situation as being a problem

 It also brought to my mind the thought that wheel pants ( not in his
situation) and other items may allow for ice build up from splashing water
on the taxiways.

Or in other words, it refreshes our minds to remember that winter flying
brings with it additional things to consider other then just how to stay
warm when we fly.

Not sure if I am getting my point across but what I am trying to say that I
was glad I read this because it made me think.

Jeff York
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- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Freiberger" <ronandmar...@earthlink.net>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter


> How do you preflight ice buildup?
>
> Ron Freiberger
> mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> Subject: Re: KR> Re:Wet Runways in the winter
>
> I think Kip's story say's a lot for all of us to think about.
>
> The fact that he has flown this plane for 18 years and never had this
> problem. Therefore this was never part of his preflight. WOW !!
>
>
>
>
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KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Just thought I would let you know. I finally updated a few things on my 
website. Here is the link to the 2005 KR Gathering photos I took. Here is the 
link http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/KRGathering2005/

Obviously you can tell I was very interested in engine baffling. As I am re 
doing mine. I also have several good pictures of Steve Jones KR as well may be 
yours in there too.

I have updated pictures of my KR as well as the baffle work I am doing. I had 
to much air getting by my old baffling and hope to lower my oil temps a bit. If 
nothing else I will feel I have done all I can to improve oil temps.

I had hoped to get a KR ride at the gathering as I could use the duel time and 
the chance to compare notes and observe someone else's temps and gauges.  I 
keep changing things on my Kr to improve something or another and never build 
up any long consistent flight time between minor mods. Then the minor mods end 
up taking way to much time. You know the story, job, wife kids. Extra time is 
very difficult to come by but then again, we make our priorities.

Well, now I have a Cherokee as well, so maybe I will spend more time flying.

Jeff York
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N839BG
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KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I talked to him there but I do not remember his name. I noticed that his
paint job was nearly flawless and had a mirro shine. I figured it was two
stage ( clear coated) as mine is but he said it was not.

Jeff York
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- Original Message - 
From: "David Kopanski" <david.kopan...@halliburton.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:40 PM
Subject: RE: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website


> Great pictures! Who does that beautiful Dragonfly N113DM belong to?
>
> David Kopanski
> Kirkuk, Iraq
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:20 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website
>
> Just thought I would let you know. I finally updated a few things on my
> website. Here is the link to the 2005 KR Gathering photos I took. Here
> is the link http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/KRGathering2005/
>
> Obviously you can tell I was very interested in engine baffling. As I am
> re doing mine. I also have several good pictures of Steve Jones KR as
> well may be yours in there too.
>
> I have updated pictures of my KR as well as the baffle work I am doing.
> I had to much air getting by my old baffling and hope to lower my oil
> temps a bit. If nothing else I will feel I have done all I can to
> improve oil temps.
>
> I had hoped to get a KR ride at the gathering as I could use the duel
> time and the chance to compare notes and observe someone else's temps
> and gauges.  I keep changing things on my Kr to improve something or
> another and never build up any long consistent flight time between minor
> mods. Then the minor mods end up taking way to much time. You know the
> story, job, wife kids. Extra time is very difficult to come by but then
> again, we make our priorities.
>
> Well, now I have a Cherokee as well, so maybe I will spend more time
> flying.
>
> Jeff York
> KR-2 Flying
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Q3 at Gathering; was Re: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Now that several had mentioned it, I do remember him telling me it was a tri
gear Q2. I remember as the first Tri Q (as they are often called I first
seen at Sun N Fun in 1994. I fell in love with the design as I had a Canard
plane ( Varieze ) at the time. The thought of a canard with electric start
and standard gear was very appealing to me.

By the way, the one I seen at Sun N Fun was having it's tail glassed back
on. While taxing on at Sun N Fun, an old Radial Bi Plane was taxing behind
him. The Bi plane did not see the little Tri Q and taxed right up and cut
his tail off. I was parked along the side of the taxi way when it happened.
I was yelling at the Bi plane driver to stop. I guess he did not understand
what I was trying to say.  Fiberglass went flying everywhere.

The guy with the Tri Q was from Iowa. One of the demo tents volunteered
their time and effort and was able to put on a very good demonstration of
their product while fixing the Tri Q. The guy flew it home at the end of the
week.

I looked at Tri Q 's and dragonflies for quite some time but, the Tri Q had
been out of circulation for some time due to a legal battle that put them
out of business, and the Dragon was changing hands to often. I felt the
support was not there or at least not like the support from the KR
community.

Ok, here's one stab though, I have never flown in anybody else's KR however.
But, I have only been to one gathering and a couple of Sun N Fun's ( not the
place to get a ride) I guess I want a ride because I have an itch to change
my 2180 to a Corvair. But then again, I need to stop changing things and
just fly.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Janssen" <ejans...@chipsnet.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:41 AM
Subject: Q3 at Gathering; was Re: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my
website


> Jeff and Dave,
>
> The Q3 belongs to a flying buddy of mine.  His name is Dave Davis from
> Edinburg, Illinois, and hangers it at the Taylorville Municipal Airport,
> Taylorville, IL.  He acquired the Q3 when it was about 1/2 done.  He's had
a
> Taylor Monoplane and a couple different KR-2s in the past, which is why he
> shows up at the Gatherings when he can.  Engine is a VW - Revmaster, I
> think.  As you've noted, he's a meticulous builder.
>
> I'll pass on the nice comments to him.  He'll enjoy them.
>
> Ed
>
> Ed Janssen
> mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com
> - Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 12:33 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website
>
>
> > I talked to him there but I do not remember his name. I noticed that his
> > paint job was nearly flawless and had a mirro shine. I figured it was
two
> > stage ( clear coated) as mine is but he said it was not.
> >
> > Jeff York
> > KR-2 Flying
> > N839BG
> > Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> > My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> > Email jeffyor...@qx.net
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "David Kopanski" <david.kopan...@halliburton.com>
> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2005 11:40 PM
> > Subject: RE: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website
> >
> >
> > > Great pictures! Who does that beautiful Dragonfly N113DM belong to?
> > >
> > > David Kopanski
> > > Kirkuk, Iraq
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On
> > > Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> > > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:20 AM
> > > To: KRnet
> > > Subject: KR> updated KR Gathing photos on my website
> > >
> > > Just thought I would let you know. I finally updated a few things on
my
> > > website. Here is the link to the 2005 KR Gathering photos I took. Here
> > > is the link http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/KRGathering2005/
> > >
> > > Obviously you can tell I was very interested in engine baffling. As I
am
> > > re doing mine. I also have several good pictures of Steve Jones KR as
> > > well may be yours in there too.
> > >
> > > I have updated pictures of my KR as well as the baffle work I am
doing.
> > > I had to much air getting by my old baffling and hope to lower my oil
> > > temps a bit. If nothing else I will feel I have done all 

KR> Good News again

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Way to go , way to watch you health.


Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald R.Eason" <r...@jrl-engineering.com>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 1:05 PM
Subject: KR> Good News again


>
> I just got back from my stress test at NKC hospital and passed again.
Needed
> 159 beats/minute on the tread mill based on my age of 65 years.  I had a
> quad by-pass in 1993.
> Every year since I've passed the dreaded stre
Testt.
> It's costly, but it's worth it from my perspective.
> I am feeling pretty good today. By the way I am working on updating my web
> site with many new pics.
>
> KRron
>
>
>
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KR> reason to own your own airplane

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

What a cool story. That encourages me to get the baffling work done, get the
KR back in the air and get my 10 year old and 12 year old back up in the
air. This would get them away from the none stop playstation and computer
games.

It also reminds me of years ago when I had a Varieze. I thought my boys
would love it. Especially since my hanger neighbor referred to it as star
wars fighter. The only thing is, because the seating was semi reclined, my
son could not see out while sitting in the back. He hated it.

It has been several months since I last took my boy up and we only went
around the pattern.

I guess as Jerry would say. " It's time to quit building"  So I need to quit
tearing it apart and just fly. Of course that Piper Cherokee I bought is
also causing me to lose focus.

Great Story

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email         jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Oscar Zuniga" <taildr...@hotmail.com>
To: <pietenpol-l...@matronics.com>; <kr...@mylist.net>;
<corvaircr...@mylist.net>; <sqrl...@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 12:57 PM
Subject: KR> reason to own your own airplane


> This is a good article, especially for those of us with youngsters.  Well
> worth reading!
>
> http://www.beechaeroclub.org/displayarticle324.html
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
>
>
>
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KR> The Fix

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I had an old Ford Mechanic show that to me about 25 years ago. What a
coincidence. I bought a Cherokee 150 and had one cylinder showing low
compression. The engine is pretty low time. A mechanic threw out an
outrageous bill. Couple of hammer hits later and what do ya know, a rebuilt
cylinder for no cost at all.


I have seen all kinds of so called short cut tricks in the past that never
worked, but that one does.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
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- Original Message - 
From: <jscott.pi...@juno.com>
To: <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: KR> The Fix


>
> That is known as "Staking" the valve.  Pretty common practice to fix a
> leaky valve if it has a deposit built up on the face.  As Bob said,
> sometimes you have to soak them up in MMO to loosen the deposits.
>
> Jeff Scott
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:58:37 -0600 "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
> writes:
> > Netters,
> >  I had a pre-buy inspection done on my Cessna 152 and  during
> > the
> > compression check the mechanic found one cylinder was showing only
> > 47
> > pounds.  Another mechanic did something I have never heard of
> > before.  He
> > said that sometimes there will be a carbon buildup on the seal of
> > the
> > exahust valve and cause it to not close all the way and seal on the
> >
> > compression stroke as it is supposed to do.  He took a large rubber
> > mallet
> > and smacked the roker arms a few times after removing the cover of
> > course
> > and now that cylinder is showing 74 pounds.  Just a few strokes with
> > a
> > rubber mallet was all it took to jar the carbon off of the seal.  I
> > could
> > see an expensive repair bill for grinding valves, replacing rings or
> >
> > possibly the entire cylinder so I thought you guys aught to know
> > about this
> > fix.
> >
> > Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> > rsto...@hot.rr.com
>
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KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I love this subject and have contemplated turbo charging my 2180 for quite
some time. I feel I have extensive knowledge of turbo charging systems as I
have done extensive amounts of turbo and turbo engine work on automobile
applications.

However, and not to slight anyone here, I don't think I would ever consider
taking a turbo from one application and believe I could bolt it to my VW
2180 or a Corvair engine and expect success.

I cut my teeth in turbo experimenting with automobiles. I will also credit
much of the knowledge I gained came from many individuals involved in the
Shelby Dodge Auto Clubs. Here is what I learned. Or, I could just cut to the
finish and suggest that if you  want to turbo your airplane, start with a
proven turbo and engine application and then make minor modifications as you
need. But back to what I learned.

With a turbo several things are critical to it's success.
I would say that the most important is proper air fuel ratio delivery and
the ability to monitor that. In an aircraft , this would be highly critical.
I think more engines blow up ( turbo or normally aspirated) because they get
to a lean mixture condition. Adding a turbo makes this even more of an
issue. For that matter, anything that increases horsepower makes fuel
delivery very important. So, fuel injection would be my choice over a carb
on this subject. I would also install an air fuel meter.

You would also need to deal with the great deal of increased heat that a
turbo creates. Both to your oil and probably even your air fuel mixture.
Cooling the air fuel mixture can be done with and intercooler. The increase
in oil temps would be a challenge to your oil cooler and oil delivery
system. You may also need to deal with the fact that when you shut off the
engine, all that hot oil from your turbo will drain down to your engine ,
thus increasing oil temps after shut down. The most reliable automotive
turbo's use both oil and engine coolant to keep the turbo cool.

You also need a reliable way to regulate the waste gate. Or in other words
you have to be able to keep the turbo from overboosting. Again, I believe
you need to monitor this with a guage. If not you will never be able to keep
head gaskets on your engine. You would also burn holes in the tops of your
pistons, burn valves and so on and so on. Speaking of valves, my experience
leads me to believe that you would need to change the exhaust valves on your
engine as well , in order to deal with the increased temps of combustion.
This goes back to the idea of starting with a reliable engine turbo
combination.

I could go on and on with the subject of turbo charging. I would also say
that I think it is the cheapest and best way to get more ponies and torque
out of an engine. I also would guess that there are people on this list that
know 10 times more then me on turbo charging. But I qualify my information
with the years I spent experimenting with turbo in automobiles and that I
was able to take a 2.2 four cylinder engine of 140 horsepower and develop a
reliable dyno tested 360 HP with incredible amounts of torque. But, I did
this using a tried and tested engine and turbo combination. I was able to
take advantage of computerized controls for fuel delivery and waste gate
controls. I was able to write my own computerized fuel tables and timing
curves to assure air fuel mixture at various RPM ranges. This was all done
via Engine ECU and interfacing a laptop computer. And the whole system seems
a little complex for a KR2. I also need to mention that I struggled with all
the items mentioned above. No big deal when on the ground ( ok maybe a few
towing bills and head gaskets and parts and such) but I sure wouldn't want
to have those issues in the air.

I would still like to turbo an engine for my KR2. I am still unsure of the
best, lightest and most reliable way to do it. Maybe I will start with some
Rev Master turbo parts and go from there.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "hussein nagy" <nagy_ta...@yahoo.com>
To: <brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net>; "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Geared vs direct drive


> Hello, Colin,
>   I always enjoy you comments on subjects, I am an observer to the KRnet
, I bought a KR2 Boat with retractable gear and tail dragger,  I  have no
experience of  building A/C but opinion of experienced  folks count, Now let
ask you , I have the wing center Old aerfoil  RAF48, Do you think the new
aerofoil is woth it at this stage of the  built, and changing to fixed gear
better than the retract fo KR2, when  the new aerfoil instaaled do you think
that the elevator and the rudder  will be resized.  would like to know your
opinion,
>   Best regards
>   Nagy
>   Jacksinville,

KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Never had a 1835 so I can not make the comparison.

I am going to open a can of worms with this statement, but here goes.

I will start out by saying that I am completely intrigued with the Corvair
power. I love Corvairs anyway but what the WW group has done is awesome.
Sure wish I could have gotten a ride in one at the gathering.

But aside from that my mind keeps going back to the extensive experience the
VW conversion has in aircraft and the fact that I already have one. Here
comes the trouble I am going to get myself into.

With the VW I just feel that there is a lot more reliable power that should
be available. I make that statement partly because of all the auto racing
( I know auto racing is not flying) experience the VW conversions have.
There are companies like SCAT and others that are able to get lots more out
of these engines (VW) and the availability of parts are so extensive for the
VW engines that there should be a little more that can be gained by this
experience. I know there are big differences in engine RPM's configurations
and so on between the SCAT conversions and the VW engines we use,. But I
believe that there is also a lot that can be applied to the VW engines from
these types of VW engine conversions.

Take for example the fact that my last several certified engines ( Cont and
LYC) all used very tried and true , but very old technologies in fuel
systems and so on.

FADAC and several new to aircraft technologies are now being implemented.
These seem very similar to systems that have been in automotive use for many
years.

To me the AERO VEE engine looks a little like the marriage of newer
technologies to the older VW engine platform.

Ok, I am kinda drifting off here but I am curious as to if a marriage of
some of the older tried and true VW can be joined to the newer SCAT and AERO
VEE to produce a reliable more powerful engine along the lines of the WW
Corvair stuff. Thus giving greater performance with greater parts
availability.

Now, can I still throw in there that I think  what Steve and Linda Bennet
have done for the VW engine is absolutely awesome

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net





- Original Message - 
From: "phil brookman" <p...@ntlworld.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents


> hi jeff did you upgrade from a 1835 by any chance just wondered how much
> extra power you gained
> p
> - Original Message -
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 10:35 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents
>
>
> > I love this subject and have contemplated turbo charging my 2180 for
quite
> > some time. I feel I have extensive knowledge of turbo charging systems
as
> I
> > have done extensive amounts of turbo and turbo engine work on automobile
> > applications.
> >
> > However, and not to slight anyone here, I don't think I would ever
> consider
> > taking a turbo from one application and believe I could bolt it to my VW
> > 2180 or a Corvair engine and expect success.
> >
> > I cut my teeth in turbo experimenting with automobiles. I will also
credit
> > much of the knowledge I gained came from many individuals involved in
the
> > Shelby Dodge Auto Clubs. Here is what I learned. Or, I could just cut to
> the
> > finish and suggest that if you  want to turbo your airplane, start with
a
> > proven turbo and engine application and then make minor modifications as
> you
> > need. But back to what I learned.
> >
> > With a turbo several things are critical to it's success.
> > I would say that the most important is proper air fuel ratio delivery
and
> > the ability to monitor that. In an aircraft , this would be highly
> critical.
> > I think more engines blow up ( turbo or normally aspirated) because they
> get
> > to a lean mixture condition. Adding a turbo makes this even more of an
> > issue. For that matter, anything that increases horsepower makes fuel
> > delivery very important. So, fuel injection would be my choice over a
carb
> > on this subject. I would also install an air fuel meter.
> >
> > You would also need to deal with the great deal of increased heat that a
> > turbo creates. Both to your oil and probably even your air fuel mixture.
> > Cooling the air fuel mixture can be done with and intercooler. The
> increase
> > in oil temps would be a challenge to your oil cooler and oil delivery
> > system. You may also need to deal with the fact that when you

KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Ok, Now this is along the lines of my interest.

I would like to keep up with the results of your efforts and the
specifications of the modifications you are performing.

Do you have a website that you will be posting results and pics to?

I would also be interested in your injection system. How much ect?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Ronald R.Eason" <r...@jrl-engineering.com>
To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents


> I am turbo charging my VW/Rayjay Happi variant. I have added to the design
a
> larger Oil cooler, wastegate, pop-off valve and ECU controlled fuel
> injection configured and PC programmable MAP. The pop off valve and
> wastegate have special selected springs. I have also added ceramic
coatings
> to the combustion chamber, Nicke aluminum cylinders and poly coated
> bearings. All investments are made and I will assemble the engine after I
> finish the airplane.
>
> By the way I have some fuel injection manifolds for a 2180 for sale if
> anyone is interested.
>
> Ronald R. Eason Sr.
> President / CEO
> Ph: 816-468-4091
> Fax: 816-468-5465
> http://www.jrl-engineering.com
> Our Attitude Makes The Difference!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
> Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2005 4:36 PM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents
>
> I love this subject and have contemplated turbo charging my 2180 for quite
> some time. I feel I have extensive knowledge of turbo charging systems as
I
> have done extensive amounts of turbo and turbo engine work on automobile
> applications.
>
> However, and not to slight anyone here, I don't think I would ever
consider
> taking a turbo from one application and believe I could bolt it to my VW
> 2180 or a Corvair engine and expect success.
>
> I cut my teeth in turbo experimenting with automobiles. I will also credit
> much of the knowledge I gained came from many individuals involved in the
> Shelby Dodge Auto Clubs. Here is what I learned. Or, I could just cut to
the
> finish and suggest that if you  want to turbo your airplane, start with a
> proven turbo and engine application and then make minor modifications as
you
> need. But back to what I learned.
>
> With a turbo several things are critical to it's success.
> I would say that the most important is proper air fuel ratio delivery and
> the ability to monitor that. In an aircraft , this would be highly
critical.
> I think more engines blow up ( turbo or normally aspirated) because they
get
> to a lean mixture condition. Adding a turbo makes this even more of an
> issue. For that matter, anything that increases horsepower makes fuel
> delivery very important. So, fuel injection would be my choice over a carb
> on this subject. I would also install an air fuel meter.
>
> You would also need to deal with the great deal of increased heat that a
> turbo creates. Both to your oil and probably even your air fuel mixture.
> Cooling the air fuel mixture can be done with and intercooler. The
increase
> in oil temps would be a challenge to your oil cooler and oil delivery
> system. You may also need to deal with the fact that when you shut off the
> engine, all that hot oil from your turbo will drain down to your engine ,
> thus increasing oil temps after shut down. The most reliable automotive
> turbo's use both oil and engine coolant to keep the turbo cool.
>
> You also need a reliable way to regulate the waste gate. Or in other words
> you have to be able to keep the turbo from overboosting. Again, I believe
> you need to monitor this with a guage. If not you will never be able to
keep
> head gaskets on your engine. You would also burn holes in the tops of your
> pistons, burn valves and so on and so on. Speaking of valves, my
experience
> leads me to believe that you would need to change the exhaust valves on
your
> engine as well , in order to deal with the increased temps of combustion.
> This goes back to the idea of starting with a reliable engine turbo
> combination.
>
> I could go on and on with the subject of turbo charging. I would also say
> that I think it is the cheapest and best way to get more ponies and torque
> out of an engine. I also would guess that there are people on this list
that
> know 10 times more then me on turbo charging. But I qualify my information
> with the years I spent experimenting with turbo in automobiles an

KR> photos of 20yr old KR

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Great pictures...  I lived in Glendale AZ many years ago.  Great
yehaww

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke5.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 9:38 PM
Subject: KR> photos of 20yr old KR


> Netters,
>
> Click on the link to see the first photos of my KR2 in the air.  I'm
haveing a great time keep building...eeeaa
http://vandyke5.com/Airport.htm
>
> scroll to the bottom
>
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ
> l...@vandyke5.com
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>

KR> Great morning flight

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Now that is truly a great and inspiring story.

Way to go on the yeehhaaawww

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Lee Van Dyke" <l...@vandyke5.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 9:16 PM
Subject: KR> Great morning flight


> Group
>
> The weather here in Arizona is finally starting to cool off. This morning
was about 82 degrees at 7AM. There was little traffic at the airport. I
started out going to get gas, and was ready to take off at 7:45. I have made
a few flights since the gathering and was ready to show off my KR. Some of
you may know the plane I have was my fathers, he owned it for 18 years and
never flew it. I/we rebuilt it and I had made a few eventful flights prior
to Oshkosh. Upon returning from Oshkosh the needed repairs were made and
several flights were made. Not enough to make the trip to Mt. Vernon. My
father has yet to see the plane fly. It flew the day he bought it 20 years
ago. Last night while swimming in the pool I asked him what he would be
doing this morning. He stated that he would be at the RC field. The field is
a remote dirt strip East of the old Williams Airforce Base. I said Great
bring your Radio (hand held) and I'll call you when I'm close. Well after
T/O I made the 20-minute flight to his location and called him on the radio.
He had to quick land and get his radio, (all observed from the air). I made
several revolutions around the field and her asked if I was going to get any
lower. 1500 AGL. I made 2 passes at 150 and 100 feet one @ 150 mph and one @
160 mph as I haven't retracted the gear yet. All I heard was
WWOOWWW. ALL HE HEARD WAS
YYEEEH.
>
>
>
> Lee Van Dyke
> Mesa AZ
> l...@vandyke5.com
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KR> Nose Gear question

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I am 
going to try and get your alls advise.

Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose gear 
lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose came up 
and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set back down. I 
pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the nose gear touch 
down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually wondering if it was 
the nose wheel or something significantly out of balance with the engine. 
I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach and 
noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time getting the 
RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) type throttle so I 
began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally slowed down and I taxied 
off and back to my hanger.

Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to hold 
the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent before I 
started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose wheel self 
centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told indicates that you 
have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In testing a couple of them 
at the gathering, I noticed they did not self center and those owners indicated 
they had no shimmy issues. By the way that information was not meant as any 
criticism of anyone else's KR. I just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment 
to others while there.

Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed thus 
precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this centering bolt was 
already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be contained ) ?

Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush speed 
before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the whole thing. 
Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine mount / fire 
wall?

Your thoughts experiences?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net 

KR> Nose Gear question

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Yes, It is the Diehl. Yes there is a gap space between the on each side of
the bolt between it and the spring. NOt sure how the bolt would have gotten
bent. the bend is ever so slight. May be moot to the subject.
I am sure I was not doing 75 when I pulled off and not as high as 85 when I
touched back down so it helps to hear that you have been able to do so
without this issue. By the way, this is the first time my plane has done
this.
I also appreciate the info on your take off on your methods. This is why I
was hoping to catch a ride with someone at the gathering. Wanted to get more
info and feel from those flying, espesially with the same configuration as
mine.
I think I need to look closely at the nose gear back at the fire wall engine
mount side.

Anybody out there near Georgetown/ Lexington KY

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:57 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff,
> It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what I
have. I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at
speeds as high as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no shimmy.
The spring on mine does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is
lined up straight. There is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the bolt
between it and the spring. This allows for some free castering before
contact with the spring. The purpose of the spring is to help align the nose
wheel for landing. You mentioned the centering bolt being bent and I think
you had to do that prior to your shimmy. With the stops on the nose gear, I
just don't see how it could bend while taxiing. I can turn my plane either
direction to it's limits and it will not bend the bolt. When you begin your
take off roll, apply enough up elevator to relieve most of the weight off
the nose wheel without taking it off the pavement. Once you establish enough
speed to control the plane with rudder, gently raise the nose off the
pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off the runway. Upon landing
and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as long as possible until
it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to apply up elevator as
you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose gear, the plane will
stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the mains touch down.
It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but, I
am going to try and get your alls advise.
>
> Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose
gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The nose
came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set
back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the nose
gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was actually
wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of balance
with the engine.
> I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the tach
and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time
getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out ) type
throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally slowed
down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
>
> Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears to
hold the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was bent
before I started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose
wheel self centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told
indicates that you have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In
testing a couple of them at the gathering, I noticed they did not self
center and those owners indicated they had no shimmy issues. By the way that
information was not meant as any criticism of anyone else's KR. I just
wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment to others while there.
>
> Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much speed
thus precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this centering
bolt was already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still be contained )
?
>
> Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted t

KR> Nose Gear question

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

That is a good point. When was the last time I checked tire pressure?


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 11:59 AM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> Good point. I run 40 psi in my tires.
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Wales, WI
> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> Behalf Of L. D. Mueller
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> You know that sometimes tire pressure will affect nose wheel shimmy. I
> hadn't seen that listed anywhere in reference to the shimmy issue.
>
> Newbee KR project owner . . .
>
> L. D. Mueller
> 521 North Madison Street
> Cuba City, WI 53807
> 608-744-
> - Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:58 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Yes, It is the Diehl. Yes there is a gap space between the on each side
of
> > the bolt between it and the spring. NOt sure how the bolt would have
> > gotten
> > bent. the bend is ever so slight. May be moot to the subject.
> > I am sure I was not doing 75 when I pulled off and not as high as 85
when
> > I
> > touched back down so it helps to hear that you have been able to do so
> > without this issue. By the way, this is the first time my plane has done
> > this.
> > I also appreciate the info on your take off on your methods. This is why
I
> > was hoping to catch a ride with someone at the gathering. Wanted to get
> > more
> > info and feel from those flying, espesially with the same configuration
as
> > mine.
> > I think I need to look closely at the nose gear back at the fire wall
> > engine
> > mount side.
> >
> > Anybody out there near Georgetown/ Lexington KY
> >
> > Jeff York
> > KR-2 Flying
> > N839BG
> > Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> > My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> > Email jeffyor...@qx.net
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Mark Jones" <mjo...@muellersales.com>
> > To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 9:57 AM
> > Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question
> >
> >
> >> Jeff,
> >> It sounds as if you are referring to the Diehl nose gear which is what
I
> > have. I have never had an issue with shimmy on mine. I have rotated at
> > speeds as high as 75 mph and landed as high as 85 mph all with no
shimmy.
> > The spring on mine does not contact the centering bolt when the gear is
> > lined up straight. There is (guessing) a 1/8" space on each side of the
> > bolt
> > between it and the spring. This allows for some free castering before
> > contact with the spring. The purpose of the spring is to help align the
> > nose
> > wheel for landing. You mentioned the centering bolt being bent and I
think
> > you had to do that prior to your shimmy. With the stops on the nose
gear,
> > I
> > just don't see how it could bend while taxiing. I can turn my plane
either
> > direction to it's limits and it will not bend the bolt. When you begin
> > your
> > take off roll, apply enough up elevator to relieve most of the weight
off
> > the nose wheel without taking it off the pavement. Once you establish
> > enough
> > speed to control the plane with rudder, gently raise the nose off the
> > pavement and wait for the plane to fly itself off the runway. Upon
landing
> > and after the mains touch down, keep the nose up as long as possible
until
> > it settles on it's on onto the runway and continue to apply up elevator
as
> > you slow down. One thing to note is that with the nose gear, the plane
> > will
> > stay on the runway and not float in ground effect once the mains touch
> > down.
> > It will bounce on a hard landing as will any airplane.
> >>
> >> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> >> Wales, WI
> >> Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
> >> Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
> >> Behalf Of jeffyor...@qx.net
> >> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:31 AM
> >> To:

KR> Nose Gear question

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Thanks Bob, I am going to check tire pressure and the Diehl gear at the
attach point. It just about has to be one of those 2 items as I had not
noticed this problem before so something has changed.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff,
>  I have the same problem with my spam can (Cessna 152).  If I taxi too
> fast the nose wheel will start to shimmy and I have to come to an almost
> complete stop to get it to track straight.  If I taxi reasonable slow like
> maybe ten miles an hour, I have no problem.  On landing and take off, I
keep
> the nose wheel of the runway as well as I can until the speed is enough
for
> take off or when landing I keep the yoke back as long as I can so I am
> slowed down before the nose wheel touches.  My aircraft is equipped with a
> shimmy dampener and as far as I can see nothing is wrong with it.
>
> Bob Stone, Harker Heights, Tx
> rsto...@hot.rr.com
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 8:30 AM
> Subject: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > OK, So I may not supply quite enough info for a complete evaluation but,
I
> > am going to try and get your alls advise.
> >
> > Yesterday when I went to rotate to take off, just at or before the nose
> > gear lifted, I felt a pretty significant shimmy in the nose gear. The
nose
> > came up and the airplane lifted off. I decided to pull the power and set
> > back down. I pulled the power, let the plane sit back down and upon the
> > nose gear touch down, the shimmy came back but much worse. I was
actually
> > wondering if it was the nose wheel or something significantly out of
> > balance with the engine.
> > I never really looked at the air speed indicator but I looked at the
tach
> > and noticed that I still had 2200 RPM and was having a difficult time
> > getting the RPM's to come down. I have the vernier ( screw in and out )
> > type throttle so I began back screwing the throttle. Everything finally
> > slowed down and I taxied off and back to my hanger.
> >
> > Upon inspection of the nose wheel it appears that the bolt that appears
to
> > hold the little coil spring posts centered, has bent. Or maybe it was
bent
> > before I started. I also want to point out that the free castering nose
> > wheel self centers when you lift up on the front end, a test I was told
> > indicates that you have the right tension and such on the nose wheel. In
> > testing a couple of them at the gathering, I noticed they did not self
> > center and those owners indicated they had no shimmy issues. By the way
> > that information was not meant as any criticism of anyone else's KR. I
> > just wanted to compare my nose gear adjustment to others while there.
> >
> > Here is my question. Did I let the nose gear touch down with to much
speed
> > thus precipitating the shimmy? Did I do a poor preflight and this
> > centering bolt was already bent ( Slightly, spring still looks to still
be
> > contained ) ?
> >
> > Is it possible that I let the plane stay planted to long and had to mush
> > speed before I pulled the nose wheel come up? Thus precipitated the
whole
> > thing. Maybe I need to look at the nose gear at the point of the engine
> > mount / fire wall?
> >
> > Your thoughts experiences?
> >
> > Jeff York
> > KR-2 Flying
> > N839BG
> > Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
> > My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
> > Email jeffyor...@qx.net
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> >
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question and funny pokes and jabs

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

You guys are funny. On a day when I need lifting up, I can get a kick out of
the funny little jabs you guys poke at one another.

One week ago today, I got out sourced. Just 6 months ago I accepted the job
as  IT Director and was tasked to straighten up their network and relocate
it to their new headquarters. A pretty significate task .  So all is
complete now, network upgrades complete. So now my employer kicks me to the
curb. Or a positive way to look it is, I WORKED MYSELF OUT OF  JOB! My
employer now believes that the position is part time with no benefits.

I seen this happen to my dad and I remember years ago when just about every
male over 40 at my church got let go at Magnavox Government Electronics. I
guess the business mind set hasn't changed in all these years. Why pay good
wages to someone over 40 when you can buy to 20 something's for less then
half and give them no benefits. No offense meant to the 20 somethings, I
used to be one and worked hard to get up to the decsant pay scale I
attained. So much for hard work, experience and dedication. So therefore, I
thought the rule was you reaped what you sowed. That's what my father taught
me. Call me  naive or stupid and over 40. OK, so I am crying in my milk, or
beer, or whatever.

Keep up the funny jabs and pokes as long as it's meant for fun. I need a
good laugh.

Ok monitor, I got way off the KR subject on this one and I probably should
not have sent it.

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net



- Original Message - 
From: "Jack Cooper" <kr2coo...@earthlink.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:33 PM
Subject: RE: KR> Nose Gear question


> > (Best solution:  Dump the training gear)
> >
> > Steve Jacobs
> > Zambia
> Yeah, right, - Trade the shimmy for a ground loop.
>
> Go ahead, flame me
>
> Jack Cooper
> >
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>
>
>
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KR> Nose Gear question

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, I am confused, some say check to make sure I have 40 PSI in the nose
wheel and you seem to be saying to decrease the tire pressure to reduce
shimmy.

Which is it?

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   to see my KR-2
Email jeffyor...@qx.net

- Original Message - 
From: "patrusso" <patru...@sover.net>
To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question


> Jeff
> It may be a bit more than just "checking the tire pressure".  It might
mean
> running much less pressure than is called for, sacrificing some tire
> lifeand you may find that acceptable. I know of two instance where
> reducing tire pressure immediately eliminated shimmy.
> -Pat
>  Original Message - 
> From: <jeffyor...@qx.net>
> To: "KRnet" <kr...@mylist.net>
> Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Nose Gear question
>
>
> > Thanks Bob, I am going to check tire pressure and the Diehl gear at the
> > attach point.
>
>
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KR> Bill where did you get those wing tip light covers?

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Bill,

I noticed the wing tip lamp covers you had on your KR at the KR gathering. They 
looked like some type of model aircraft canopy that you modified.

Where did you get them? 

Jeff York
KR-2 Flying
N839BG
Home page  http//:web.qx.net/jeffyork40/ 
My KR-2   http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/   
Email jeffyor...@qx.net 

KR> Gathering Date

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I agree with the early spring but not if it would cause the event to skip a 
year. Can another one be put together in 6 months or so?

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
N839BG Flying
see my KR at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/Airplane/
my website http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/


--- Original Message ---
>From : Mark Jones[mailto:mjo...@muellersales.com]
Sent : 9/12/2005 1:00:13 PM
To : kr...@mylist.net
Cc : 
Subject : RE: KR> Gathering Date

I too agree with Dan that Sept should be eliminated. Why have we not
>spoken of early Spring when everyone is excited about good flying
>weather after long dreary winter. Some of the best flying weather I have
>experienced has been early Spring. Just a thought. Let's all chip in
>their ideas and see what the consensus is.
>Mark Jones (N886MJ)
>Wales, WI
>Visit my web site: http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj
>Email: flyk...@wi.rr.com
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net]On
>Behalf Of Dan Heath
>Sent: Monday, September 12, 2005 11:46 AM
>To: kr...@mylist.net
>Subject: KR> Gathering Date
>
>
>I believe that better weather is available during the month of October
>and
>over the years have heard many comments about the poor weather
>conditions
>during the month of September. I have now flown to 4 gatherings and
>this
>was the first time that I was able to go to and from the gathering
>without
>incident. However, it was not without great concern as we had just had
>the
>worst hurricane in my lifetime and were being threatened by another one
>that
>is still sitting off the coast. We had to check often each day to be
>sure
>that we would be able to get back home and never knew if we were going
>be
>able to stay for the duration of the gathering.
>
>I do not understand how it can possibly be the general consensus that we
>continue to have this event during one of the worst times of the year
>for
>flying. I have always thought that this should be open for debate but
>it
>has always been dictated and that is something I also do not understand.
>
> 
>See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
>See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
>There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
>building
>has expired.
>Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
>---Original Message---
>General consensus was to hold the 2006 Gathering in late September,
>probably the last weekend, but I'll wait to get input from anyone
>interested in e-mailing me at my e-mail address above with their input.
>
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KR> plane's at the airport...

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Mark,

Other then taxi testing, what are you doing to prepare for flight. Just
curious


- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 11:22 PM
Subject: KR> plane's at the airport...


> Jeanie and I hauled the plane to the airport tonight, and then the wings
in a separate trip, one in back of my GTI, and one in back of her A4
stationwagon (we're the only couple in Alabama that doesn't own at least one
pickup truck).  We're entertaining our customer at work today and tomorrow,
but I hope to take off after lunch and put the wings on, and be ready to fly
Saturday morning.  Hazel Green (M38) is only 2700' long, but even worse, is
only 40' wide.  Easy enough to take off on, but a little tougher to land!
I'm going to fly over to MDQ three miles away and do about 20 touch-n-goes,
then to the "Moontown" (3M5) grass strip (2200' long, but 160' wide) for
some more sharpening of the skills, and then back to M38 for my first
landing attempt.  At least the hangar at M38 where I'm keeping it is very
nice, complete with epoxy coated floor and Heineken in the fridge!  The
weather is severe clear for the next few days.  Wish me luck.
>
> It sure is nice to have my basement back after 12 years.  I could do a
Yeha for that one all by itself...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
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KR> Anyone that could come by 27K on way to gathering

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

My KR has been idle for a little while. You know, started a minor modification 
that turned into a long project, kids, job, you know all the reasons.

Anyway, I have it back together, running, taxi testing all seems pretty good 
but, I would like to have a second set of KR inspecting eyes. Ialso seen 
220 on my oil temps the other day on a short runway low flight. I think the 
baffeling on my oil cooler needs modified. I have had a coupleof the 
local EAA members look at it with me, but they admit they know nothing about 
KR's or VW converted engines.

I know it's short notice but I would really like to fly it to the gathering, 
never been to one. I would also like to have someone who would like to give me 
some dualsince it has been a while since I last flew. It's a beautiful 
plane and it flys really nice. You can see it in the completed KR's on the 
KRnet or on my website at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/


My airplane is hangered at Georgetown/ Scott county airport, (27K) and I live 
20 minutes away in Lexington, KY. 859-608-7366 cell. I can also be 
contacted via my work email at jy...@amrms.com

If someone would want to stop over, I will put them up in a motel but it would 
be fun to have a a KR visitor stay over at my home. 

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/
jeffyor...@qx.net 
jy...@amrms.com
859-608-7366 cell

KR> KR2- 2180 GPAC Vw rough under 1100-1500 RPM

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Ok, I am ashamed to say that N839BG has been idle for a year. But I have 
drained the old 100LL put everything back together and got it running again. 

I have noticed however that below 1500 maybe actually when you get down to 1100 
RPM it sounds a little rough. Just kind of a stumble in the normally smooth 
sound of the engine. I have a Zenith carb with no cockpit mixture control by 
the way.
Plugs where brand new a year ago when I got busy and let it sit. Got a feeling 
its a little out of time however, I can get a very clean 3400RPM static.

Thoughts?

Jeff York
KR-2 N839BG
Lexington, KY
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/

KR> Test flying and instruction

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I would be interested. I am in Lexington, KY.

My flying KR has been idle for a year as I made some minor changes to the
cowling and got busy with other things.

I always believe a second set of eyes is better then a single one track mind
when it comes to almost anything, especially an airplane build, repair or
inspection.

If you or anyone out there would like to share a annual inspection check
list with me that would be great.

Let me know what type of costs and times you have available.

Jeff York
N839BG
 see KR at my homepage at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: KR> Test flying and instruction


>
> If any of you are interested, I am putting myself on the market as a KR
> inspector, test pilot and if necessary, dual instruction.  As an A  and
builder
> I can help out with either some building part of your project or  just a
good
> inspection and some pointers.   Once your plane gets its  airworthiness
and if
> you are interested I can also test fly your plane for you  and help get
the
> "bugs" worked out.  If you are a low time pilot or desire  a bit of dual
we can
> work out some practice time as well.  Some pilots,  such as Mark L., need
> some real basics enforced that help making flying the KR  easier.  Mark
noted
> that all the KR pilots say its easy to fly but for a  low time private
with no
> high performance training it can be more than many can  handle.  Some may
only
> need an hour or two to get the feel of things but  some need more.  My
> insterest is to see that people build and fly their  airplanes safely.
Sometimes you
> think you may have a handle on the  situation but come to find out you
have
> more to learn than you thought.  A  second set of eyes and perspective
never
> hurts.  Also, as an A I can  check out engine installations and
controls, sign
> off inspections, do annuals,  and give a helping hand.  I will work
according
> to the individuals  needs.  As I will do this as a service, it will also
be a
> source of income  (therefore pay involved) for me.  I can fly my plane to
your
> location and  if you put me up you can pick my brain..whats left of it!
> Remember, there should be no pride in flying safely other than that of a
job
> well done.  I hope to be of service to anyone who can use me.  I will  be
> leaving for Wisconsin at the end of June and be there until the end of
Oshkosh.
> If there are any builders who wish me to stop along the way or  are in
that
> area who want me to visit, let me know on the net.
> Happy building and flying...
> Bill Clapp and N41768
>
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KR> Video of First Flight

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

COOL COOL COOL
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "Corvaircraft" ; "KR Net" 
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:17 PM
Subject: KR> Video of First Flight


> Thanks to a great friend named Orma, I am able to share with all of the KR
and Corvaircraft family, a short video of my first takeoff. Be sure to turn
up your volume so you can hear that sweet Corvair engine
>
> This may take a few minutes to load up on your computer.
> http://www.kr-2.aviation-mechanics.com/MARK%20JONES.htm
>
>
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005)
> Wales, WI  USA
> E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
> Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
> http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html
>
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KR> Second Flight Report

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Way to go. Maybe I can get things in order and soon be back in the air

Jeff York
N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Jones" 
To: "KR Net" ; "Corvaircraft" 
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:02 PM
Subject: KR> Second Flight Report


Today, I flew exactly one hour on my KR. Again the flight was more than
perfect. Outside temp was 44° and no winds with a ceiling of 12,000'. Again,
I had full tanks (10 gallons in each wing). After completion of the flight,
I measured the fuel burn at 5.5 gallons per hour. My maximum altitude during
this flight was 5,000' with a lot of cruising at 4,000'. I did a lot of
steep turns both left and right and she would hold altitude with no efforts.
Again, I flew hands off in straight and level flight with no variations from
where I let go of the stick. I was hands off for almost 10 seconds!!!. On
initial climb at take off I held the airspeed at 100 mph, rpm was 2500, oil
temp was 190°, oil psi was 40, exhaust temp was 1200° and CHT was 280°. I
did three high speed passes down the runway at approximately 100'. During
the dive to the airport, I obtained a speed of 175 mph, level over the
runway 160 mph and when I pulled out she climbed like a homesick angel. At
4,000' and cruise at WOT, I achieved 150 mph at 2750 rpm, oil temp 190°, oil
psi 40, exhaust temp 1100, and cht temp 260°. I am very pleased at how this
KR handles with no surprises so far and also with the engine running as
smooth as I could expect being it was the first engine I have ever
completely built. The only thing is that I firmly believe I have too much
prop and that I should be able to get better top end performance with maybe
a 52 x 50. I have one that I will be testing soon but for now, I just want
to enjoy flying for a while. I took off this Monday and will be putting
several hours on the plane. More reports coming soon

Mark Jones (N886MJ...FIRST FLIGHT made 3-20-2005)
Wales, WI  USA
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at
http://mywebpage.netscape.com/n886mj/homepage.html

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KR> Fwd: [Q-LIST] Fw: CorvAircraft> Re: Interesting court decision

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, 
This is the kind of stuff, that if you read the whole thing it makes you leary 
of doing anything to your airplane. I mean, if this guy in this story changed 
from a standardair filter to a high volume air filter, could this not be 
said to be a major modification and therefore would result in no insurance 
coverage. I meanan air filter change can have a direct effect in the air 
fuel mixture which can result in both short term results to long term engine 
fialure. Or at least it could be resonably argued in a court of law. ( my 
family is big in injury law, and no I have nothing to do with it)

This just makes me think. At what point in time do these insurance companies 
ever say , "Well, we can't take your money" but they will certainly fight 
tokeep from paying a claim. Don't get me wrong, I can see both sides of 
the story here, but feel that the determining factor of the crash was not 
relevent to the argument from the insurance company as to their willingness to 
pay.

I guess the bottom line on this makes me wonder.Was his accident a result 
of a fuel related failure, if so I guess I would say the insurance company had 
an argument, but if the accendent had nothing to do with a fuel related 
problem, then I think there pointis moot. But this case is based on 
contractual obligation, not right and wrong.

I just wonder, " Does something like this make you stop and wonder and want to 
think twice about the next time you go flying. And how what you did on your 
last routine maintenance check on your airplanecould effect the 
finiancial stabilty of your family and the home they live in. It certainly 
makes me think of the risks I am taking to my childrens way of life each time I 
drive to the airport.

Jeff York
Lexington. KY.
KR-2 N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/



>


--- Original Message ---
>From : larry severson[mailto:lar...@socal.rr.com]
>Sent : 2/21/2005 12:55:05 AM
>To : kr...@mylist.net
>Cc : 
>Subject : RE : KR> Fwd: [Q-LIST] Fw: CorvAircraft> Re: Interesting court 
>decision
>
>I got this from the QList. Must reading for ALL homebuilders!
>Change props, or even avionics that changes w/b, and this could hit you.
>
>>This was posted over on the Corvair list and thought I'd post it over here.
>>It got me to thinking about some of the things I've done and assumed they
>>were not considered major. Wander 'bout my auxilary fuel tank - that's
>>messin' with the fuel system. I suppose the electronic ignition I would like
>>to install someday is also considered major. Anybody else recertified their
>>airplanes for things like this?
>>
>>LF
>>
>>
>> >I think I posted this before, but it is worth reading.
>> >
>> > http://www.ellison-fluid-systems.com/homebuilt_court_decision.htm
>> >
>
>Larry Severson
>Fountain Valley, CA 92708
>(714) 968-9852
>lar...@socal.rr.com 
>
>
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KR> Court decision

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I think you bring up an excellent point.
It is common for people to change tires, rims, carburator or injectors,
heads. intake, whatever. but you do not hear about their insurance claim
being denied because of this.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY
KR-2 N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 3:24 PM
Subject: KR> Court decision


> I hope this sort of mentality in the insurance industry doesn't carry
> over into other types of insurance.  Such as:  I buy a car--put a
> performance chip in it--have a speeding related accident and find that I
> am not covered.orinstall nonstandard shocks, etc.
> Dick H.
>
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KR> removing the wings

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Yes, I agree, the Varieze WAF made wing removal very easy. I had one and still 
have the plans. I could easily remove and install the wings by myself, but I 
would not say that it was so easy as to suggest you could do a quick removal to 
as to trialer back and forth between home and airport.

As I recall, you had a couple of 6 inch bolts on each wing, with tappered caps, 
I am trying to recall from memory.

Jeff York'
Lexington, KY
kR-2 N839BG flying


>


--- Original Message ---
>From : greg[mailto:idrawtobu...@ncinternet.net]
>Sent : 2/9/2005 11:14:28 AM
>To : kr...@mylist.net
>Cc : 
>Subject : RE : Re: KR> removing the wings
>
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "Oscar Zuniga" 
>To: 
>Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 6:47 PM
>Subject: KR> removing the wings
>
>
>> >Check out this link to a British built plane by Ken Atkinson.
>>>Truly a remarkable wing removable system.
>
>I believe that the WAF for the Vari-Eze are one of the easiest systems I've 
>ever come across. Strong and quite dependable.
>
>It's easy to look at one. Just find an EZ on you airport. And the 
>push/pull for the elirons is also top draw.
>
>Greg Martin 
>
>
>
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KR> Registration Form

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

I did the "OR" on a previous plane with a partner.

Partner died,

During the long time it took trying to get the title transferred to me and
after thinking everything was ok, I went to my hanger one day to find out
the lock had been changed.

You see my partners survivors, (wife and son) ( I am sure their attorney
too) got to talking and when the word airplane was mentioned over a period
of several conversations and months, they suddenly began to feel that any
airplane was worth a lot of money. So hence, this airplane was worth a lot
of money.

So they demanded I pay to them much more then what the plane finished was
worth, not to mention that the plane was not finished when he died. By the
way I finished it after he died.

The thing that really makes me mad. They ended up selling the plane to a guy
for less then what each partner had into it. Which was by the way, about a
fifth of what they demanded for me to pay them.

Also, by the way, these where people, that I thought I had a great
friendship with. His wife actually cried on several occasions as she told me
she knew her husband wanted me to have the plane because he knew I would
carry on and finish it.

I am making this to long. Bottom-line, I was out an airplane, all the money
I put into it and of course time and effort, hanger fees, so on and so on.

I will only put " OR" on the title with a survivor, wife or son, all others
will be "AND" because money and lawyers will always get in the way,
regardless of right and wrong.

Oh, and the guy that bought it from them. I thought he was a friend too.

Jeff York
N839BG
Lexington KY.
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40



- Original Message - 
From: "Ron Smith" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: KR> Registration Form


>
>
> Dan Heath  wrote:
> Jerry and I have decided to register N64KR to Jerry Mahurin and Dan Heath,
> not a "legal" partnership, just two individuals with joint ownership. I
have
> two questions.
>
> Should it be Jerry Mahurin AND Dan Heath or should it be Jerry Mahurin OR
> Dan Heath?
>
> Hi Dan,
>
> I am a Finance Manager at a dealership here in Calif. I think most states
would be the same, in that, if you choose "and", it will require both of
your signatures to tranfer tiltle and registration of the vessel. If you
choose "or", then either of you can sign to tranfer title and registration.
>
> The problem that can arise with each of these choices are these. 1. If you
choose "and", if one of you dies, it will be difficult for the other living
partner to transfer. 2.If you choose "or" the other partner can sell the
vessel out from under you.
>
> If you have a good relationship with one another, "or " would be the
better choice. IMHO.
>
>
>
> Ron Smith,
>
> Boat stage Kr2S
>
> Cypress Ca,
>
> mercedesm...@yahoo.com
>
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KR> whell pants

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

OK, I hope this doesn't seem like a really dumb question but. 

Are you guys drilling and tapping the axle on the main gear to except a screw 
to secure the wheel pants?

I have Matco brakes if that makes a difference.

Or is there a better way?

Jeff York
Lexington, KY.
KR-2  N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/  Homepage , click on My airplane to see KR-2

KR> Germany vacation webpage

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Mark,

I actually enjoyed the change of pace that you brought with the pictures of
your Germany vacation.  What a beautiful place and how fortunate that you
where able to share this with your family and to extend that to your KR
family. Thank you very much.

I hope that in this new year that more KR members will share pictures of
more of the custom work and solutions they come up with in their KR
ventures. As the saying goes. pictures are worth a thousand words.

You can see my new homepage at http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/


Jeff York
Lexington, KY
KR-2
N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Langford" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Friday, December 31, 2004 1:15 PM
Subject: KR> Germany vacation webpage


> KRNetHeads,
>
> Just so I'll have some KR content, I took a few pictures of cutaway
aircraft
> engines in the Deutches Museum.  Here's a sample of a VW Type1 Limbach, at
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/germany/0410110918.jpg , that I took on
our
> recent vacation to Germany.
>
> It's Friday, so maybe I can get away with this.  Some of y'all probably
have
> the day off and some time to kill.  You might remember that I promised a
web
> page detailing our German vacation, eventually.  It's finally done, at
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/germany/ .  Obviously I have a lot of
time
> invested in this web page (it's 420 pictures, and is 33Mb big)... time
which
> I really should have been working on my plane.  Most people I've showed it
> too have raved over it, so it's probably not a complete waste of your
time.
> If you're on dialup, start it downloading and come back in an hour so you
> don't find yourself waiting for each image to load.  33M is a lot of
stuff,
> and although I've never seen it happen, it wouldn't surprise me if it
became
> "unavailable" because of the bandwidth.  But I don't really think HiWAAY
has
> a bandwidth limit, so we'll find out.
>
> I ran my KR's Corvair engine some yesterday, and intend to spend the next
> three days working on the KR.  I've fixed the slight compression problem I
> had on number 6, and will be checking the intake system next.  One bank
> seems to be running richer than the other, as unlikely as that seems.   I
> really haven't done much with it in the last few weeks due to demands from
> the workplace, holiday family stuff, and preventative maintenance on the
> wife's Audi.  I'm getting back around to it, although it looks like I'll
be
> going back to Germany (on business) for up to two months early in 2005.
I'd
> better get it in gear!
>
> Y'all have a good one...
>
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see homebuilt airplane at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net
>
>
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KR> If you are up this late you must be wrapping Christams gifts, like me

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Merry Christmas,

In 10 minutes it will be Christmas morning. If you are up this late reading
this you must have kids, and you are busy wrapping gifts  or pulling them
out if hiding places like me.

I hope everyone has a very safe and happy holiday.

Jeff York
Lexington, KY
KR-2 N839BG
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/airplane/

KR> Site Update - Interior

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Very Nice  This interior is looking as nice as any factory built.

I like your cabin heat box. Got a spare?  Or any drawings/ plans I can
plagiarize to make mine?

Jeff York

Kr-2
Lexington, KY.
http://web.qx.net/jeffyork40/

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Heath" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2004 1:27 PM
Subject: KR> Site Update - Interior


> Minor changes to the site, mostly cleanup and organization.
>
> New pic of the interior on the home page.  Click on the link below.
>
> See N64KR at http://KR-Builder.org - Then click on the pics
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for
building
> has expired.
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2005 - KR Gathering
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KR> Re: so glad to be back

[jeffyor...@qx.net]

Somehow either in the change of internet service providers or something, I
ended up getting dropped of this forum some time ago. At least a year or so.
In my attempt to sign back up , I ended up on another KR forum and got very
little emails.

Anyway , I went along thinking that activity in this forum had come to a
near stop. I had also thought that a server for the KR net had went down and
just wondered if it was never brought back up.  Well a fellow kr netter
corrected me in my mis understanding, thank you Mike, and I am back on.

I also have to admit that children, job and other activities have prevented
me from dedicating the time to my KR and avaition hobby as well.

So, I guess my early New Years resolution is that I am rededicating myself
to my KR. So look out. the dumb questions are about to come.


Now if I can just figure out how to get my wheel pants mounted on my mains
and I sure would like to build some of those fiberglass cooling baffels
(snorkels) like I seen on a Sonex, let's see, I finnally got that RV-6 scoop
glassed on to my lower cowling, and the cowling repainted. That looks good.
What can I ask the wife for for Christams, something that I really need for
the KR?  Hum, that new water cooled head set up from Great Plains for the
2180 sure would be nice, 100 HP, wonder if anybody out there is doing one of
those on a KR-2?  Man , that Corvair stuff, now that looks cool, how the
heck can I get myself up to speed on that. Love Corvairs maybe I could call
it a KRvair.

Just doing a lot of thinking . Wow, could I really get to Sun N Fun in my KR
this year?  Should have flown it down there a couple of years ago, but I
can't leave anything alone and had to go tearing it apart. Well maybe I
could even make the Kr fly in!

Merry Christmas all you KR netter guys and gals.
If you get near Lexington , KY look me up, stop for a while or spend the
night.

Oh, and all you Northern er's! You didn't know that the 3 wise men where
firemen did ya?

Look it up in the Bible it say's so. The three wise men came from ah fire to
see the baby Jesus.

Jeff York
Lexington , KY
KR-2  N839BG