RE: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information
Kathy, This is difficult. We have this position with the English 1846 census in that for the place of residence it only gives information as to whether the place of birth was within the county in which the person resided at that date (Y), out of county (N), Ireland, Scotland, Wales or Foreign. From this census, all I know about my nth g-grandfather is that he was not born in Westmorland but presumably in England. I have recorded this as . Not entirely satisfactory as has other meanings but I think it is clear and the brackets make it stand out - as well as putting all the out of county locations together. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 21:34:55 -0500 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How to record Gravestone information ... I have placed it as a source in Legacy for his date of death, with a note in my research tab about the situation. It was oral family history that prompted me to go looking to see if the boy WAS actually buried there. Now that I have confirmed that he indeed COULD still be roaming Alaska, I am still in a quandary about where to start looking for him. The only thing I know is where he ISN'T...and that came from the actual burial Record, not an MI. How should I record information that I DON'T know ...and the sources that led me there. Suggestions? _ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] List of Death Locations?
Cathy wrote: Robert, This would find Individuals that have a Death Place, not a list of those locations. Like Ron, I don't think it can be done in Legacy. The closest would be to export people with a death place to a new file and do a location report but that would be messy picking out the death places. You could simplify it by exporting just a basic gedcom so you At 01:27 AM 23/01/2008, you wrote: Try this: Go to SearchFind (or just press CTRL-F). Set the following: Look for whom? = Individual Where to look? = Death Place How to look? = Not Equal To What to look for? =(Nothing) Barbara Ford wrote: Is it possible to generate a list of all Places of Death? If so, how? Thanks, Barbara After doing the search as described, export only those people to a gedcom. Then download GEDxlate Lite from http://www.gedmagic.com/GEDxlate.htm. This program will convert the gedcom to an excel (or access) file with just thefields you want included. Include the death location field, open in excel and sort on the death location field. It is fairly quick and very easy. -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer Cox with Legacy Family Tree http://h1.ripway.com/egptech/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to record ID numbers
Hello Listers I am just starting to go over my files to put ID numbers in for each source I have lots of handwritten (by me) documents mainly transcripts of Census (before Ancestry) I intend to copy the census etc into Legacy then give them an ID number I file my families by MRIN number so I want to able to retrieve these documents quickly from those files and I wondered how others number them. My own file is MRIN 1 The help file didn't ! Regards John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] sourcing different information
I have a question about sourcing differences in a date. I have a source for a death that says the child died young or soon. Later, after more research, I found the actual date. If I put the date in and attach my new source, in addition to the first source, it looks like both sources had the date. If I create an alt. death event, it looks funny to have an actual date and then an alternate as just young. I would like to keep both sources, but how does one specify which one had the actual date without it looking as though both do? Thank you, Nancy _ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] How to record ID numbers
I also file by MRIN numbers. Have a look here - this is the system I use. http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2006-10-20-mrin_digital_filing.shtml This appeared in Legacy News http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/organization/index.html Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gen Searcher Sent: Wednesday, 23 January 2008 11:46 PM To: Legacy Email List Subject: [LegacyUG] How to record ID numbers Hello Listers I am just starting to go over my files to put ID numbers in for each source I have lots of handwritten (by me) documents mainly transcripts of Census (before Ancestry) I intend to copy the census etc into Legacy then give them an ID number I file my families by MRIN number so I want to able to retrieve these documents quickly from those files and I wondered how others number them. My own file is MRIN 1 The help file didn't ! Regards John Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] sourcing different information
Nancy, How about putting a note in the Source Detail Comments? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] sourcing different information Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:00:12 -0500 I have a question about sourcing differences in a date. I have a source for a death that says the child died young or soon. Later, after more research, I found the actual date. If I put the date in and attach my new source, in addition to the first source, it looks like both sources had the date. If I create an alt. death event, it looks funny to have an actual date and then an alternate as just young. I would like to keep both sources, but how does one specify which one had the actual date without it looking as though both do? Thank you, Nancy _ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] How to record ID numbers
Hello Jennifer I've never seen that site before, quite good really Regards John - Original Message - From: Jennifer Crockett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:11 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] How to record ID numbers I also file by MRIN numbers. Have a look here - this is the system I use. http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2006-10-20-mrin_digital_filing.shtml This appeared in Legacy News http://legacynews.typepad.com/legacy_news/organization/index.html Jennifer Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ?
In the Rootsweb Newsletter just received, was the following bit of news snip? Want to spice up your WorldConnect tree? How about adding some photographs? Follow these quick steps and you'll soon have your relatives' photos alongside their facts. Caution: A little bit of HTML savvy required. snip What are the plans for Legacy to provide an option to help in preparing the gedcom that will be uploaded to WorldConnect ? ? till later _J_B_ -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Is there any way to totally renumber the RINS starting from scratch? I imported two seperate files from two FTM files and they are now in Legacy. The problem is, the RIN numbers are sort of scattered all around. I would expect my closest relatives to have the lowest number RIN (direct line) but they don't necessarily have the RINs I think they should have. I am thinking about switching over my filing system to the MRIN system that is encouraged my Legacy. MY filing system works for me but I am thinking I would like the binder system better than the way I am filing my stuff in a regular filing cabinet. Having said that, I would like my MRIN (and RINS) is a logical order before I start adding more people. Then the higher RIN numbers would make sense to me because I would know that it was someone that was added much later. missy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Michele, There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) Jim Terry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:21 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Is there any way to totally renumber the RINS starting from scratch? I imported two seperate files from two FTM files and they are now in Legacy. The problem is, the RIN numbers are sort of scattered all around. I would expect my closest relatives to have the lowest number RIN (direct line) but they don't necessarily have the RINs I think they should have Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ?
As I'm not registered for Rootsweb Newsletter I haven't seen this but I would be interested to know where/how a Gedom comes into loading pictures into World Connect. BTW Gedom Standards have nothing to do with Legacy other than the fact that they use it. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ? Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:01:56 -0800 In the Rootsweb Newsletter just received, was the following bit of news Want to spice up your WorldConnect tree? How about adding some photographs? Follow these quick steps and you'll soon have your relatives' photos alongside their facts. Caution: A little bit of HTML savvy required. What are the plans for Legacy to provide an option to help in preparing the gedcom that will be uploaded to WorldConnect ? ? till later _J_B_ -- _ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
I realize this is a tad off topic but if you do use the filing system recommended by Geoff R. and lets say you have 5 binders... When you find more things on someone in the first binder how much trouble is it to shove stuff from binder to binder to make room for the new stuff in the binders that have the lower MRIN numbers? missy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Yowser! That really isn't an option since I have 3000 total in my file :( michele - Original Message - From: Jim Terry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 12:05 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Michele, There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) Jim Terry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:21 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Is there any way to totally renumber the RINS starting from scratch? I imported two seperate files from two FTM files and they are now in Legacy. The problem is, the RIN numbers are sort of scattered all around. I would expect my closest relatives to have the lowest number RIN (direct line) but they don't necessarily have the RINs I think they should have Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
I was wondering about the file ID number. I was wondering how I could make use of that. missy - Original Message - From: Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Missy, Just to add to Jim's comments, RINs and MRINs aren't as random as you think. They're assigned in sequential order as you enter individuals and marriages in the program. The first import you did most likely retained the RINs and MRINs that were in the original file, possibly filling in any blanks that were left if you had deleted individuals or marriages in FTM. The second import obviously couldn't duplicate those numbers so if there was a conflict, new numbers were assigned to the individuals and marriages as the file was being imported. The numbers for the existing file remained as they were. That's another reason why relying on RINs and MRINs can cause problems and for permanent numbers, those should be entered in the User ID field for the individuals and marriages - although I don't know if other programs have that option. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Terry/Support Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Michele, There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) Jim Terry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:21 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Is there any way to totally renumber the RINS starting from scratch? I imported two seperate files from two FTM files and they are now in Legacy. The problem is, the RIN numbers are sort of scattered all around. I would expect my closest relatives to have the lowest number RIN (direct line) but they don't necessarily have the RINs I think they should have Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Missy, Just to add to Jim's comments, RINs and MRINs aren't as random as you think. They're assigned in sequential order as you enter individuals and marriages in the program. The first import you did most likely retained the RINs and MRINs that were in the original file, possibly filling in any blanks that were left if you had deleted individuals or marriages in FTM. The second import obviously couldn't duplicate those numbers so if there was a conflict, new numbers were assigned to the individuals and marriages as the file was being imported. The numbers for the existing file remained as they were. That's another reason why relying on RINs and MRINs can cause problems and for permanent numbers, those should be entered in the User ID field for the individuals and marriages - although I don't know if other programs have that option. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Terry/Support Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Michele, There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) Jim Terry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:21 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Is there any way to totally renumber the RINS starting from scratch? I imported two seperate files from two FTM files and they are now in Legacy. The problem is, the RIN numbers are sort of scattered all around. I would expect my closest relatives to have the lowest number RIN (direct line) but they don't necessarily have the RINs I think they should have Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ?
I would bet no plans. Legacy already has a facility for the export of gedcoms that can be uploaded to WorldConnect. However, the gedcom spec, which is beyond Legacy's control, concerns itself only with data, not images. - Original Message - From: J B Coats [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ? In the Rootsweb Newsletter just received, was the following bit of news snip? Want to spice up your WorldConnect tree? How about adding some photographs? What are the plans for Legacy to provide an option to help in preparing the gedcom that will be uploaded to WorldConnect ? ? till later _J_B_ -- Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
If you are mostly concerned about the closest two or three generations, one way is to start a new file beginning with yourself, which will be saved as RIN #1 Then do a few sequential exports from the original file and import into the new file, for example export your parents (with or without their other children depending on on whether you want the grandparents lower numbered than your brothers and sisters). Then do the grandparents and so on. With each import, Legacy will use the lowest numbers available so you can group the RINS differently based on the order you import. Personally, I never use RINs or MRINS for anything other than as a temporary bookmark when doing other activities. Gary Templeman -- Original message -- From: Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was wondering about the file ID number. I was wondering how I could make use of that. missy - Original Message - From: Sherry/Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 1:56 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Missy, Just to add to Jim's comments, RINs and MRINs aren't as random as you think. They're assigned in sequential order as you enter individuals and marriages in the program. The first import you did most likely retained the RINs and MRINs that were in the original file, possibly filling in any blanks that were left if you had deleted individuals or marriages in FTM. The second import obviously couldn't duplicate those numbers so if there was a conflict, new numbers were assigned to the individuals and marriages as the file was being imported. The numbers for the existing file remained as they were. That's another reason why relying on RINs and MRINs can cause problems and for permanent numbers, those should be entered in the User ID field for the individuals and marriages - although I don't know if other programs have that option. Thanks for using Legacy. Sherry Customer Support Millennia Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com We are changing the world of genealogy! When replying to this message, please include all previous correspondence. Thanks. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Terry/Support Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 9:06 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Michele, There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) Jim Terry Technical Support Legacy Family Tree -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:21 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Is there any way to totally renumber the RINS starting from scratch? I imported two seperate files from two FTM files and they are now in Legacy. The problem is, the RIN numbers are sort of scattered all around. I would expect my closest relatives to have the lowest number RIN (direct line) but they don't necessarily have the RINs I think they should have Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ?
Since I last replied, Mark Lang kindly sent me the article from Rootsweb. It seems to me that no changes to Legacy are necessary, although I do have a couple of points. Firstly, the picture must already be on a web server for Rootsweb to access it and the full URL (ie. commencing http://; ) placed in any of the Notes in Legacy. So WorldConnect visits that site, picks up the picture and places it in your Notes. Secondly the article states that the URL should be enclosed in the html tags and . For use in placing an URL in its own web pages Legacy uses « and » ie. Alt+174 and Alt+175 but these brackets and their contents are ignored in exporting to Gedom 5.5. If one compiles Legacy web pages and also WorldConnect it would mean having both URLs in the Notes which would not look particularly good on the Legacy web pages, or changing the brackets depending on how it is to be used - UGH! if there are a lot. Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ? Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:01:56 -0800 In the Rootsweb Newsletter just received, was the following bit of news Want to spice up your WorldConnect tree? How about adding some photographs? Follow these quick steps and you'll soon have your relatives' photos alongside their facts. Caution: A little bit of HTML savvy required. What are the plans for Legacy to provide an option to help in preparing the gedcom that will be uploaded to WorldConnect ? ? till later _J_B_ -- _ Telly addicts unite! http://www.searchgamesbox.com/tvtown.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] Legacy gedcom Preparation ? and HTML feature at WorldConnectTree
Ron mentioned about not receiving the RootsWeb newsletter, so I have copied the specific article below . Legacy is even mentioned. This prompted the question to the group. Roger mentioned about the Legacy gedcom feature. It works great and I use it on regular basis. It appears that there may be a way that Legacy could add the html info to the general notes. The info being taken from the Attached Pictures details. Would hate to have to enter the line for each individual having a picture. HTML is not really my thing. With much help from this group, I have several sites posted on the web. Thanks for listening _J_B_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- [[changed to plain text]] Using RootsWeb Adding Photos to Your WorldConnect Tree By Jana Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to spice up your WorldConnect tree? How about adding some photographs? Follow these quick steps and you'll soon have your relatives' photos alongside their facts. Caution: A little bit of HTML savvy required. I added this photo of my grandfather to my WorldConnect tree. To see the actual page: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GETdb=j_lloydid=I1 THE HOW-TO The key to adding a photograph to your WorldConnect tree is this: place the appropriate HTML image tags in the Note section for an individual in your GEDCOM file before you upload it to WorldConnect. Here are more complete steps to make sure you're successful: Step One: Enable your WorldConnect tree to accept HTML coding. 1. Go to My Account. 2. Click Edit next to the WorldConnect tree you want to add a picture to. 3. Click Display Options in the Tree Settings box. 4. Scroll down to the line that reads Allow HTML in GEDCOM and select Yes. 5. Click Update. Note: If you haven't created a My Account page yet, you can enable HTML settings through the old User Setup/Edit page on WorldConnect. You must know your tree user code and password to access the tree display options through the old WorldConnect Setup/Edit page. Step Two: Add appropriate HTML image tags to your GEDCOM. 1. Decide which person you want to attach an image to in your WorldConnect file. 2. Open your family tree making software (e.g., Family Tree Maker, Legacy, PAF, etc.) and locate the individual. 3. Put the appropriate image HTML tag in the Notes section for that individual (the Notes section appears as a field, dialogue box, or separate section depending on your software). Here is a basic set of HTML tags you could insert in the Notes section. It will create a paragraph break and an image. p img src=URL where your image is located /p For example, I included the following HTML tags in my GEDCOM: p img src=http://jlloyd294.googlepages.com/davidirvinglloyd.jpg/davidirvinglloyd-medium;init:.jpg; /p Note: To place an image in your WorldConnect file, the image must already be hosted by a file server (i.e., it has to be online somewhere). If you already have an image you want to use on a RootsWeb freepage you can link to the image there. Since I use Gmail and Google provides its users with a free website service, I created a Web page and uploaded numerous family photos to it; then I linked to those images. Some free Web hosting services where you can post your photographs include Angelfire (part of Lycos), GeoCities (part of Yahoo), and Tripod.com (also a part of Lycos). Or, try a search for free hosting service in your Web browser to locate more. One downside of free website hosting services is that they generally place ads on your Web page. Note that you should not use a RootsWeb freepage solely for hosting photographs; pages of this nature will be removed from RootsWeb. 4. Export your new file as a GEDCOM. The tags will be embedded in the file. Step Three: Replace your existing WorldConnect file with your updated GEDCOM. 1. Go to My Account. 2. Click Edit next to the WorldConnect tree you want to update. 3. Click Replace Tree with New GEDCOM in the Tree Settings box. 4. Click the Browse button to locate your updated GEDCOM file. 5. Click Upload File. You will have to wait a few minutes for your new tree to upload before you can view it. Have you added other HTML tags to your WorldConnect tree? Please write in and let us know how you spruced up your tree. = Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ?
Thanks Ron for the comments. UGH! is correct. It seems like too much to handle for WorldConnectTree and the gedcom feature. A couple pictures maybe, but not for a large volume. I do also use the Freepages for the same file created by using Legacy Web Pages creating feature. Pictures are displayed there OK and automatically included Thanks all, will stick to the simple gedcom for WorldConnectTree and separately the Legacy Web Pages routine for other site postings. till later _J_B_ J B Coats http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=wa6dsb which has the link to the freepages site. Please visit... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] DXCC # 1 Honor Roll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dep.Gov. General - Nevada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Councilor General - Nevada [EMAIL PROTECTED] Past V.P. General - Western District = - Original Message - From: ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Wednesday, 23 January, 2008 1:33 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Legacy Gedcom preparation ? ? Since I last replied, Mark Lang kindly sent me the article from Rootsweb. It seems to me that no changes to Legacy are necessary, although I do have a couple of points. Firstly, the picture must already be on a web server for Rootsweb to access it and the full URL (ie. commencing http://; ) placed in any of the Notes in Legacy. So WorldConnect visits that site, picks up the picture and places it in your Notes. Secondly the article states that the URL should be enclosed in the html tags and . For use in placing an URL in its own web pages Legacy uses « and » ie. Alt+174 and Alt+175 but these brackets and their contents are ignored in exporting to Gedom 5.5. If one compiles Legacy web pages and also WorldConnect it would mean having both URLs in the Notes which would not look particularly good on the Legacy web pages, or changing the brackets depending on how it is to be used - UGH! if there are a lot. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
Missy, This didn't become an issue for me as I already had most of the documents for the key families and so just divided the binders up by what would fit in them - so some have 10 MRINS and later ones might have 20 MRINS. I am not sure how you could avoid having to move things. Another point - I gave up early worrying about RINs. I did re-order my MRINs, though. I did this as I worked through my families with documents, starting with my parents and then doing my father's male line, then female line and then began again with my mother. After that came the ones for son-in-law's families etc. About File IDs - if you use the system of numbering files as set out in http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2006-10-20-mrin_digital_filing.shtml that is where you would put the file ID. Jennifer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele Lewis Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2008 4:41 AM To: Legacy E-Mail List Subject: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS I realize this is a tad off topic but if you do use the filing system recommended by Geoff R. and lets say you have 5 binders... When you find more things on someone in the first binder how much trouble is it to shove stuff from binder to binder to make room for the new stuff in the binders that have the lower MRIN numbers? missy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) You can export the close relatives to another file, then you can automatically renumber them all so they have low RIN numbers. Then add the rest of the original file, and all those numbers will be higher. You can even enter them in small groups, and thus set the range of numbers for each input. However, RIN numbers are entirely reference for the computer, so why bother? --http://oscox.org Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox. Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings. Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy gedcom Preparation ? and HTML feature at WorldConnectTree
JB, Legacy can't do this automatically. First off, you need to upload your photos to the internet. Legacy won't know where those files are located or what they are named. So even though you don't want to, you would have to take each of those individuals for whom you have photographs and load their picture online, then copy the URL that picture is at, and paste it into the HTML shown in step 3 of your email. So, more work than simply uploading a Legacy-generated GEDCOM. It was great to see you mentioned this, though, as I was going to forward it to Jim Terry for him to highlight the feature on his Legacy news. I think I am going to try it with some of my one-name study Cullivans. Susan On 1/23/08, J B Coats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron mentioned about not receiving the RootsWeb newsletter, so I have copied the specific article below . Legacy is even mentioned. This prompted the question to the group. Roger mentioned about the Legacy gedcom feature. It works great and I use it on regular basis. It appears that there may be a way that Legacy could add the html info to the general notes. The info being taken from the Attached Pictures details. Would hate to have to enter the line for each individual having a picture. HTML is not really my thing. With much help from this group, I have several sites posted on the web. Thanks for listening _J_B_ Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:56:21 -0600 There is no way to quickly/automatically renumber all your RINs in the manner you want (closest relatives, lowest RINs). You will have to do it one RIN at a time. (To renumber RINs, click on Tools on the menu bar and select Renumber RINs.) You can export the close relatives to another file, then you can automatically renumber them all so they have low RIN numbers. Then add the rest of the original file, and all those numbers will be higher. You can even enter them in small groups, and thus set the range of numbers for each input. However, RIN numbers are entirely reference for the computer, so why bother? -- http://oscox.org Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox. Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings. Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED],net Carl, Whilst I do not wish to be pedantic, I guess that I'm going to be! You say However, RIN numbers are entirely reference for the computer, so why bother? I totally agree with the not bothering bit, but to say that the RINs are entirely for the computer is not entirely accurate. If you have a look at Individual Record, tblID in Access or Open Office, you will see that the first two columns are headed ID and IDIR the first being the unique identity number of the record (the individual) and the second the RIN. It is usually the first which is exclusively used by the computer and cannot, therefore, be adulterated by the touch of human hand. When an individual is deleted the number in the first column is also deleted - never to be used again. It increases by 1 everytime an individual is added. To illustrate this I have a file called Casuals.fdb in which I keep some details of people who may be connected to my tree but where I do not know. Currently the ID column ranges from number 1 (used to hold RIN 0) then 391 to 402, whilst the IDIR contains 0 to 12 (RINs) - I have just had a clearout of this file! Thus, in column 1 it is not possible to rearrange the numbers, fill unused numbers, etc. functions which are possible in column 2. BTW as the User ID I use the RIN number with the prefix P (which has no function other than to remind me it is the User ID). Ron Ferguson For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ _ Who's friends with who and co-starred in what? http://www.searchgamesbox.com/celebrityseparation.shtml Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Ron wrote: You say However, RIN numbers are entirely reference for the computer, so why bother? Thanks for that extra information. I did not know how Legacy handled the RIN numbers. I also use the RIN numbers from time to time, and my web site requires that those numbers do not change. The program I use there uses RIN numbers to locate the individuals, and I reference many relatives with their URL including the RIN. I hate to think what would happen if they got scrambled! --http://oscox.org Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox. Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings. Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Carl, No worry there - unless Legacy changes its way of working and I am sure the potential outcry would be far too great for them to risk that! I, and I expect yourself also, have set the option never to reuse abandoned RINs to ensure that no problems arise and to ease updating. It does mean that I have a load of gaps. But who cares? Ron Ferguson _ For Genealogy, Software and Social visit: http://www.fergys.co.uk Blog: Create Your Web Pages View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The Fergusons of N.W. England See: http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/ _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 19:07:42 -0600 Ron wrote: computer, so why bother? Thanks for that extra information. I did not know how Legacy handled the RIN numbers. I also use the RIN numbers from time to time, and my web site requires that those numbers do not change. The program I use there uses RIN numbers to locate the individuals, and I reference many relatives with their URL including the RIN. I hate to think what would happen if they got scrambled! -- http://oscox.org Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox. Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings. Carl [EMAIL PROTECTED],net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Get Hotmail on your mobile, text MSN to 63463! http://mobile.uk.msn.com/pc/mail.aspx Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Just want to say that I personally would never use a filing system that uses MRIN's or RIN's as the basis. The reason? Several years ago, I did (MRINs) - and then something happened, and all my MRINs got changed. Fortunately, I had on all my file folders the Surname, Firstname, so was able to rearrange them. And even though Legacy is fantastic software, From having done computer genealogy for 20 years now, I realize that the likelyhood is that at some point, there may be a reason that I will need or decide to change software - and my MRIN's and RIN's could get messed up then. As I also got sick of duplicates being required for more than one family, I now use a document numbered system. Has advantages, and of course some disadvantages too. Just a thought to keep in mind though Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
Hi Missy, I switched to the MRIN filing system about 8 months ago.and really like it. If you have say MRIN 1 through 10 in one binder and 11 to 19 in another binderwhen 1-10 get too full, I split it up to a binder of 1-5 and another binder of 6-10binder 11-19 stays the same. I have never found a reason to switch anything. It seems to work out OK. Hope this helps. Marilyn From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:40:57 -0500 I realize this is a tad off topic but if you do use the filing system recommended by Geoff R. and lets say you have 5 binders... When you find more things on someone in the first binder how much trouble is it to shove stuff from binder to binder to make room for the new stuff in the binders that have the lower MRIN numbers? missy Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
Marilyn, How big are your binders? 3”? 4” thick? I am just starting this process, and I’d like to avoid re-doing something a year from now. (I’m jumping in here without the benefit of previous exchanges as I just signed up for this listserve.) Do I understand that you use the Legacy MRINs regardless of the person’s relationship to the person numbered before or behind them? (This is my big obstacle, how to set this up.) Many thanks, neophyte but a quick learner. Mary _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Brenk Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:04 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Hi Missy, I switched to the MRIN filing system about 8 months ago.and really like it. If you have say MRIN 1 through 10 in one binder and 11 to 19 in another binderwhen 1-10 get too full, I split it up to a binder of 1-5 and another binder of 6-10binder 11-19 stays the same. I have never found a reason to switch anything. It seems to work out OK. Hope this helps. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: HYPERLINK http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.c om/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: HYPERLINK http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/http://ww w.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: HYPERLINK http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/He lp.asp To unsubscribe: HYPERLINK http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asphttp://www.LegacyFamilyTree .com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
I, and I expect yourself also, have set the option never to reuse abandoned RINs to ensure that no problems arise and to ease updating. It does mean that I have a load of gaps. But who cares? On the contrary, I try to keep all gaps filled. I often import GEDCOMs from cousins, then merge like people which leaves gaps. The next GEDCOM I import will fill those gaps, then leave more in the new addition. But I always merge to the lower number RIN. If Legacy did not merge in a consistent way I could often merge to a higher number, thus changing an established RIN. But my use of Legacy here is not your standard usage (if there is such a thing.) My web site is set up as a way for our related youngsters to find out what their ancestors went through 200 years ago, so I want all descendants. --http://oscox.org Pioneer histories and descendants of Jonathan Upham Cox. Includes Orville Sutherland Cox, Frederick Walter Cox, Mary Elizabeth Cox Whiting and their siblings. Carl[EMAIL PROTECTED],net Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
Hi Marilyn After you absorb the useful ideas people have offered you might like to go to the Legacy web site and you will find a place that describes in detail this type of filing. I changed to it (so far) it's good for me. Lecacy even has an on-line demonstration video which is comprehensive. HTH Tom E - Original Message - From: Mary Wilson To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Marilyn, How big are your binders? 3”? 4” thick? I am just starting this process, and I’d like to avoid re-doing something a year from now. (I’m jumping in here without the benefit of previous exchanges as I just signed up for this listserve.) Do I understand that you use the Legacy MRINs regardless of the person’s relationship to the person numbered before or behind them? (This is my big obstacle, how to set this up.) Many thanks, neophyte but a quick learner. Mary -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn Brenk Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:04 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Hi Missy, I switched to the MRIN filing system about 8 months ago.and really like it. If you have say MRIN 1 through 10 in one binder and 11 to 19 in another binderwhen 1-10 get too full, I split it up to a binder of 1-5 and another binder of 6-10binder 11-19 stays the same. I have never found a reason to switch anything. It seems to work out OK. Hope this helps. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 590 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
[LegacyUG] TNG
I am considering using Darrin Lythgoe's TNG (The Next Generation) software for placing my database of 245,000 people on the net. However, I am asking - 1) are there other similar programs out there 2) what are some of your likes and dislikes of TNG Thanks so much. -- James A. McKane 192 Baker St., Waterloo, ON N2T 2L4 (519) 744-0880 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Websites: http://www.mckane.ca http://www.ulsterheritage.com Legacy User Group guidelines:http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages:http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
Hi Mary, I just use the 2 D ring binders. They work great for me. I have just under 1,000 people thusfar in my research. I have read online that people have many thousands of peopleso I am not sure how well it would work for such huge number of individuals.but for mine it's great. I have about 14 binders.and growing!!! I have been doing research for about 10 years and much of that time I spent 'fighting' to find a system that made sense to me. This one suits me just fine. I like having everything together. I also used the customize feature to show the MRIN on the individual's screen...along with birth, bap and death. That way, I didn't have to keep flipping to an index to find where information goes. I love how flexible Legacy can be!!!Hope this helps. Marilyn Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:14:24 -0500From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINSTo: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Marilyn, How big are your binders? 3”? 4” thick? I am just starting this process, and I’d like to avoid re-doing something a year from now. (I’m jumping in here without the benefit of previous exchanges as I just signed up for this listserve.) Do I understand that you use the Legacy MRINs regardless of the person’s relationship to the person numbered before or behind them? (This is my big obstacle, how to set this up.) Many thanks, neophyte but a quick learner. Mary From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marilyn BrenkSent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:04 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Hi Missy, I switched to the MRIN filing system about 8 months ago.and really like it. If you have say MRIN 1 through 10 in one binder and 11 to 19 in another binderwhen 1-10 get too full, I split it up to a binder of 1-5 and another binder of 6-10binder 11-19 stays the same. I have never found a reason to switch anything. It seems to work out OK. Hope this helps. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.aspArchived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.aspTo unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] TNG
Jim, I think there are several of us on this list that are on the TNG list also. I really like TNG, but I don't know of any alternatives other than the non-database driven web pages created by the genealogy software (like Legacy) My site is at http://hobbits8.net I really like being able to add the media to the individuals and how you can upload one piece of media (whether it's a transcribed document, photograph, newspaper article, census page) and just link all individuals to it. It also allows you to share your information more easily and because you can link those source documents, it makes it easy to prove and share your info. Patti On Jan 23, 2008, at 8:10 PM, Jim McKane wrote: I am considering using Darrin Lythgoe's TNG (The Next Generation) software for placing my database of 245,000 people on the net. However, I am asking - 1) are there other similar programs out there 2) what are some of your likes and dislikes of TNG Thanks so much. -- James A. McKane 192 Baker St., Waterloo, ON N2T 2L4 (519) 744-0880 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Websites: http://www.mckane.ca http://www.ulsterheritage.com Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
Mary, Filing cabinets also work just fine. The binder aspect of this system is not critical. I actually use boxes as I rarely have to access the documents again after I've extracted all the information into my database. Granted I would prefer binders or filing cabinets if I had the physical space for them. The order of MRIN's in your database also doesn't matter. The point is simply to make a connection between your MRIN's and your source documents, be they paper or digital. Read Geoff's article regarding this system, and if you have the patience, there's my ramblings at http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2006-10-20-mrin_digital_filing.shtml. There's also an abridged version at http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2007-06-01-mrin_filing_revisited.shtml. To keep my numbers in order, I started by renumbering my parents at MRIN 1 and carried on from there, renumbering one couple at a time as I organized their source documents. I'm now using MRIN's 1 through 700 out a database of 10,000 people. The people you do not have source documents for just get pushed out of the way as you renumber the ones you do have documents for. Also, that way, if you're using pre-numbered tab dividers you don't have reams of un-used ones. I have been warned by Sherry at tech support that there can sometimes be bugs in the system that require renumbering your RIN's or MRIN's. This could be an unfortunate situation for anyone depending on the connection to the MRIN's. She's suggested an addition to 'Customize' that would do a one-click copy of all MRIN's into the User ID box on the Individual's screen. In the meantime it would be best to enter the MRIN's there yourself just in case if you decide to use this MRIN system. JLB Marilyn Brenk wrote: Hi Mary, I just use the 2" D ring binders. They work great for me. I have just under 1,000 people thusfar in my research. I have read online that people have many thousands of peopleso I am not sure how well it would work for such huge number of individuals.but for mine it's great. I have about 14 binders.and growing!!! I have been doing research for about 10 years and much of that time I spent 'fighting' to find a system that made sense to me. This one suits me just fine. I like having everything together. I also used the customize feature to show the MRIN on the individual's screen...along with birth, bap and death. That way, I didn't have to keep flipping to an index to find where information goes. I love how flexible Legacy can be!!!Hope this helps. Marilyn Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:14:24 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Marilyn, How big are your binders? 3”? 4” thick? I am just starting this process, and I’d like to avoid re-doing something a year from now. (I’m jumping in here without the benefit of previous exchanges as I just signed up for this listserve.) Do I understand that you use the Legacy MRINs regardless of the person’s relationship to the person numbered before or behind them? (This is my big obstacle, how to set this up.) Many thanks, neophyte but a quick learner. Mary From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Marilyn Brenk Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:04 PM To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Hi Missy, I switched to the MRIN filing system about 8 months ago.and really like it. If you have say MRIN 1 through 10 in one binder and 11 to 19 in another binderwhen 1-10 get too full, I split it up to a binder of 1-5 and another binder of 6-10binder 11-19 stays the same. I have never found a reason to "switch" anything. It seems to work out OK. Hope this helps. Marilyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 5:47 PM Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. Get it now! Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages:
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
Hear. Hear. I would never consider a filing system other than document (item) numbered. Any other way is fraught with problems and extra work. I am surprised by the number of people who follow an MRIN filing system. Perhaps because an expert genealogist suggested itbut not an expert librarian. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Stovold Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Just want to say that I personally would never use a filing system that uses MRIN's or RIN's as the basis. The reason? Several years ago, I did (MRINs) - and then something happened, and all my MRINs got changed. Fortunately, I had on all my file folders the Surname, Firstname, so was able to rearrange them. And even though Legacy is fantastic software, From having done computer genealogy for 20 years now, I realize that the likelyhood is that at some point, there may be a reason that I will need or decide to change software - and my MRIN's and RIN's could get messed up then. As I also got sick of duplicates being required for more than one family, I now use a document numbered system. Has advantages, and of course some disadvantages too. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
Re: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS
To quote Sherry precisely: I know our users like to rely on RINs and MRINs, but we have had instances where an error crops up that requires renumbering the RINs and MRINs. If you have the Deluxe, you can chose to renumber one or the other but if you have Standard, then you have to renumber a different way and that will renumber both. My recommendation is to enter the RINs and MRINs in the User ID field. For RINs, it's easy - just go to Options Customize Other and copy the RIN into the User ID field. For MRINs, you have to do that manually. I've asked the programmers for a similar feature for MRINs. Since I don't care if my RIN's get renumbered and I have a choice, of course, I would keep the MRIN's. Entering 700 of them, one at a time, into the User ID fields is just too much. Do people actually use the Standard version for more than a week?? JL JLB wrote: Mary, Filing cabinets also work just fine. The binder aspect of this system is not critical. I actually use boxes as I rarely have to access the documents again after I've extracted all the information into my database. Granted I would prefer binders or filing cabinets if I had the physical space for them. The order of MRIN's in your database also doesn't matter. The point is simply to make a connection between your MRIN's and your source documents, be they paper or digital. Read Geoff's article regarding this system, and if you have the patience, there's my ramblings at http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2006-10-20-mrin_digital_filing.shtml. There's also an abridged version at http://www3.telus.net/Jgen/2007-06-01-mrin_filing_revisited.shtml. To keep my numbers in order, I started by renumbering my parents at MRIN 1 and carried on from there, renumbering one couple at a time as I organized their source documents. I'm now using MRIN's 1 through 700 out a database of 10,000 people. The people you do not have source documents for just get pushed out of the way as you renumber the ones you do have documents for. Also, that way, if you're using pre-numbered tab dividers you don't have reams of un-used ones. I have been warned by Sherry at tech support that there can sometimes be bugs in the system that require renumbering your RIN's or MRIN's. This could be an unfortunate situation for anyone depending on the connection to the MRIN's. She's suggested an addition to 'Customize' that would do a one-click copy of all MRIN's into the User ID box on the Individual's screen. In the meantime it would be best to enter the MRIN's there yourself just in case if you decide to use this MRIN system. JLB Marilyn Brenk wrote: Hi Mary, I just use the 2 D ring binders. They work great for me. I have just under 1,000 people thusfar in my research. I have read online that people have many thousands of peopleso I am not sure how well it would work for such huge number of individuals.but for mine it's great. I have about 14 binders.and growing!!! I have been doing research for about 10 years and much of that time I spent 'fighting' to find a system that made sense to me. This one suits me just fine. I like having everything together. I also used the customize feature to show the MRIN on the individual's screen...along with birth, bap and death. That way, I didn't have to keep flipping to an index to find where information goes. I love how flexible Legacy can be!!!Hope this helps. Marilyn Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 22:14:24 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Marilyn, How big are your binders? 3”? 4” thick? I am just starting this process, and I’d like to avoid re-doing something a year from now. (I’m jumping in here without the benefit of previous exchanges as I just signed up for this listserve.) Do I understand that you use the Legacy MRINs regardless of the person’s relationship to the person numbered before or behind them? (This is my big obstacle, how to set this up.) Many thanks, neophyte but a quick learner. Mary *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Brenk *Sent:* Wednesday, January 23, 2008 10:04 PM *To:* legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Subject:* RE: [LegacyUG] Using the MRINS Hi Missy, I switched to the MRIN filing system about 8 months ago.and really like it. If you have say MRIN 1 through 10 in one binder and 11 to 19 in another binderwhen 1-10 get too full, I split it up to a binder of 1-5 and another binder of 6-10binder 11-19 stays the same. I have never found a reason to switch anything. It seems to work out OK. Hope this helps. Marilyn Legacy
Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
We use the MRIN Filing System because we LOVE it. It takes about 5 seconds to print a report from the marriage list showing all names and MRIN's in whatever order you'd like. Granted, having to re-insert them into a database gone awry could be a real pain. I guess we trust Legacy to not bring us to that point. Exporting and importing your database into other software 'should' keep your numbering intact. Having said all that, perhaps you could enlighten us about what a 'document numbered' system is? JL Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara wrote: Hear. Hear. I would never consider a filing system other than document (item) numbered. Any other way is fraught with problems and extra work. I am surprised by the number of people who follow an MRIN filing system. Perhaps because an expert genealogist suggested itbut not an expert librarian. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Heather Stovold Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:49 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS Just want to say that I personally would never use a filing system that uses MRIN's or RIN's as the basis. The reason? Several years ago, I did (MRINs) - and then something happened, and all my MRINs got changed. Fortunately, I had on all my file folders the Surname, Firstname, so was able to rearrange them. And even though Legacy is fantastic software, From having done computer genealogy for 20 years now, I realize that the likelyhood is that at some point, there may be a reason that I will need or decide to change software - and my MRIN's and RIN's could get messed up then. As I also got sick of duplicates being required for more than one family, I now use a document numbered system. Has advantages, and of course some disadvantages too. Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
RE: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS
A numbering system by document has been addressed several times in the past. A key word search on 'file system' or 'organizing files' should bring up a number of comments. Suffice to say, visit a library in your local city/town---the cataloging/numbering system by document (item) has been in place for a couple hundred+ years. Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:LegacyUserGroup- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JLB Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:58 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Renumbering RINS We use the MRIN Filing System because we LOVE it. It takes about 5 seconds to print a report from the marriage list showing all names and MRIN's in whatever order you'd like. Granted, having to re-insert them into a database gone awry could be a real pain. I guess we trust Legacy to not bring us to that point. Exporting and importing your database into other software 'should' keep your numbering intact. Having said all that, perhaps you could enlighten us about what a 'document numbered' system is? JL Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived messages: http://www.mail-archive.com/legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com/ Online technical support: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Help.asp To unsubscribe: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/LegacyLists.asp
