Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-29 Thread Kramer
Wow! I never tried to do that.  That would help me to know what the  
most popular names used by ancestors were by half century, something I  
was trying to figure out.  Or I could use that to figure out who was  
living in what area at the same time.  Or I could let my imagination  
go on that one a bit for some other little benefits.


Ellen Kramer

Researching and loving Dorman, Kramer, Mirarchi, Procopio, Renninger  
and Staudt-Stoudt-Stout families



On Oct 22, 2009, at 7:06 AM, Michele Lewis wrote:

What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by  
birthdate?


michele


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Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features



Chick:

I'm with you on sorting names by dob; it's one of the two  
relatively small
FTM features that I miss.  For now I send a GEDCOM from Legacy to  
an old
copy of FTM and sort there, but it would certainly be handy to be  
able to do
it within Legacy.  Seems it would be easy enough to add.  I don't  
understand

the lack of a dob sort for names.

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-24 Thread Alastair Lack
You can actually divide a large screen into two smaller ones using the
free Acer Gridvista

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Acer-Gridvista.shtml

This allows you to run two applications 'maximised' without juggling
the overlaps. But you do need to have a large screen to start with

Alastair



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-24 Thread Mike Fry

Alastair Lack wrote:


You can actually divide a large screen into two smaller ones using the
free Acer Gridvista

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Acer-Gridvista.shtml

This allows you to run two applications 'maximised' without juggling
the overlaps. But you do need to have a large screen to start with


But only on XP or Vista!

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-24 Thread Michael Berry
Sherry, just save the web picture to where you keep photos you link to 
in Legacy (I have a picture and documents folder labeled My Family and 
put everything in there using sub folders for organization).  Then you 
can link to that picture in Legacy.


Michael

Sherry wrote:

I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at an 
on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I wonder, 
too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a paragraph or 
picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Sherry

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Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.


Dawn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-24 Thread Michele Lewis
Dawn, what works bettter than that is hooking up a 2nd monitor to your 
computer.  You can have a census record on one monitor and Legacy on the 
other.  It is VERY VERY VERY nice :)


michele

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I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also
like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

Dawn

Arnold Sprague wrote:

The original intent of this good post has been hijacked. I would like
to get back to what Kirsten Bowman wanted for this thread, so have
renamed it from Favorite Features to Favorite Features - #2.

As Kirsten asked, please share with new Legacy users the features and
shortcuts of Legacy you find most helpful.

Arnold Sprague


At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I
picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new
users
sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My
personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it
should drop
everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-24 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I just open four windows and shrink them down to fill 1/4 of the screen each. I 
will look at the Acer page next.
Rich in LA CA



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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2009 3:46:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

You can actually divide a large screen into two smaller ones using the
free Acer Gridvista

http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/OS-Enhancements/Acer-Gridvista.shtml

This allows you to run two applications 'maximised' without juggling
the overlaps. But you do need to have a large screen to start with

Alastair



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Ron Taylor
Export data to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet to sort it however you 
wish.  Another possibility is to use GenViewer as it can sort on any column.  
These are great features of Legacy.  With some experience you could use Access 
to manipulate the data any way you can imagine.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread Arnold Sprague
The original intent of this good post has been hijacked. I would like 
to get back to what Kirsten Bowman wanted for this thread, so have 
renamed it from Favorite Features to Favorite Features - #2.


As Kirsten asked, please share with new Legacy users the features and 
shortcuts of Legacy you find most helpful.


Arnold Sprague


At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new users
sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should drop
everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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Sorting Index on DOB was Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Anne Hildrum
Not everybody is as computer savy as others. Some have no idea what a 
spreadsheet 
is, and some do not have Access.

Of course I don't know the code behind Legacy, but as a programmer
sorting is normally a simple procedure.

I used it extensively when I used FTM, and It is one of the features that I 
really
miss in Legacy.

Anne


  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Taylor 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


Export data to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet to sort it however 
you wish.  Another possibility is to use GenViewer as it can sort on any 
column.  These are great features of Legacy.  With some experience you could 
use Access to manipulate the data any way you can imagine.

Ron Taylor

   


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RE: Sorting Index on DOB was Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Sherry/Support
It has to do with the grid controls the programmers use.  Being able to sort
by any column is on the enhancement request list.

In the meantime, Ron's suggestion of GenViewer hit the nail on the head.
It's a great little program sold on the Legacy website (Look under Add-Ons)

Thanks for using Legacy.

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Anne Hildrum
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 7:10 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Sorting Index on DOB was Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

Not everybody is as computer savy as others. Some have no idea what a
spreadsheet 
is, and some do not have Access.
 
Of course I don't know the code behind Legacy, but as a programmer
sorting is normally a simple procedure.
 
I used it extensively when I used FTM, and It is one of the features that I
really
miss in Legacy.
 
Anne
 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Sherry/Support
The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are exactly the
same.

All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a
John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John
Does.


Thanks for using Legacy.

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-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Art Seddon
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 10:09 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

I've often wished I could sort DOB when looking for duplicates.

Art Seddon

- Original Message - 
From: Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


: 
: I'm not sure what the purpose of sorting by birthdate would be.  Are you 
: aware that Legacy has a calendar creator under reports - all reports?  
: Perhaps that would meet your needs.
: 
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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Sherry/Support
Excel does not recognize dates 1900 and earlier and does a horrid job of
sorting by dates unless dates are formatted all the same.

I love GenViewer!  It has some great sorts and searches!

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Original Message-

From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ron Taylor
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:45 AM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

Export data to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet to sort it however you
wish.  Another possibility is to use GenViewer as it can sort on any
column.  These are great features of Legacy.  With some experience you could
use Access to manipulate the data any way you can imagine.

Ron Taylor






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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Thanks Sherry - the problem is we would rather be able to sort by the DOB
column (or potentially any column shown) so that we can look for people with
the same or similar birth dates that don't have the same name.  I know if it
was a standard date field it would probably be trivial code - but I do
recognize that genealogy dates are not in a standard date field.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sherry/Support she...@legacyfamilytree.com
 wrote:

 The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are exactly the
 same.

 All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a
 John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John
 Does.


 Thanks for using Legacy.

 Sherry
 Customer Support
 Millennia Corporation
 supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
 http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/



Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Mike Fry

Heather Stovold wrote:
Thanks Sherry - the problem is we would rather be able to sort by the 
DOB column (or potentially any column shown) so that we can look for 
people with the same or similar birth dates that don't have the same 
name.  I know if it was a standard date field it would probably be 
trivial code - but I do recognize that genealogy dates are not in a 
standard date field.


And dates taken from the GRO are definitely non-standard, being entered 
as month Q year, where month is Mar or Jun or Sep or Dec. A 
standard can not be used for this since the month Q combination is 
shorthand for 1 month - 2 to last day month.


Definitely *not* a trivial exercise for the programmers :-)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Gene Young

Ron Taylor wrote:
Export data to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet to sort it however 
you wish.  Another possibility is to use GenViewer as it can sort on any 
column.  These are great features of Legacy.  With some experience you 
could use Access to manipulate the data any way you can imagine.


Ron Taylor


Another available option is to download GEDxlate from 
http://www.gedmagic.com/GEDxlate.htm


=== quote from site =

What is GEDxlate?

GEDxlate quickly and easily translates genealogy data from standard 
GEDCOM format into MS Access dB (*.mdb), MS Excel Worksheet (*.xls), 
comma delimited (*.csv), and text file (*.txt) formats. Pick a GEDCOM 
file to translate; select which fields you want to include in your dB, 
spreadsheet, csv, or txt file; choose an output format and file name to 
save the translated data in; and you're there!


 end quote =

It is free and I use it extensively for analyzing data.  Once you 
convert your info to excel or access format you can manipulate it as you 
wish.  It is a perfect companion to Legacy and it is free.


There is no single genealogy program that will do everything that 
everyone desires, although Legacy comes closest.  The use of these 
external programs will probably be necessary for the foreseeable future 
and I will take advantage of them as needed.  This is by no means a 
criticism of Legacy, which remains the finest program of its type ever 
created.



--
Gene Y.
http://myyoungs.atspace.com/index.htm
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread Dawn Crowley
I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.


Dawn

Arnold Sprague wrote:
The original intent of this good post has been hijacked. I would like 
to get back to what Kirsten Bowman wanted for this thread, so have 
renamed it from Favorite Features to Favorite Features - #2.


As Kirsten asked, please share with new Legacy users the features and 
shortcuts of Legacy you find most helpful.


Arnold Sprague


At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I 
picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new 
users

sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My 
personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it 
should drop

everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread Sherry
I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at an 
on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I wonder, 
too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a paragraph or 
picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Sherry

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From: Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

Dawn




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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread CE Wood
You can cut and paste text but not pictures.  Legacy does not store pictures.  
It links to the location on your computer where you have saved the picture.


CE

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From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of 
Sherry
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:47 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at an 
on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I wonder, 
too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a paragraph or 
picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Sherry

- Original Message -
From: Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

Dawn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Art Seddon
Sherry/Support wrote:

snip The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are 
exactly the same.

All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a 
John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John 
Doe's.snip

Yes Sherry, but it would be much simpler and more helpful to tag a group of 
ancestors and sort by DOB regardless of name variations.

Art Seddon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Art Seddon
Why have to pay for an add-on to do a simple sort?

Art Seddon

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Excel does not recognize dates 1900 and earlier and does a horrid job of
sorting by dates unless dates are formatted all the same.

I love GenViewer!  It has some great sorts and searches!

Thanks for using Legacy.

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Export data to a CSV file and then use a spreadsheet to sort it however you
wish. Another possibility is to use GenViewer as it can sort on any
column. These are great features of Legacy. With some experience you could
use Access to manipulate the data any way you can imagine.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Yes. I frequently have Legacy visible on 1/2 screen, the Swedish online pages 
on the other, and the program Paint, and the 'photos subdirectory' hiding on 
the bottom, to check which pages I already have, then copy new pages using the 
Swedish copy numbering system. 
Rich in LA CA


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From: Sherry daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:47:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at an 
on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I wonder, 
too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a paragraph or 
picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Sherry

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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also 
like being able to make Legacy fit only    1/2 of the screen  still be 
legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Robert Carneal USA

Art-

Let me reword what I think you said--

You want to be able to open a family file, any family file, and 
select several people. Their names may, or may not, be 
similar.   Then, using the list of people you selected or tagged, and 
just those people only, you want to sort by birthdate, perhaps oldest 
to youngest, or youngest to oldest.


Have I got it?

Thanks.

Robert


At 2009-10-23  03:55 PM, you wrote:

Sherry/Support wrote:

snip The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are
exactly the same.

All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a
John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John
Doe's.snip

Yes Sherry, but it would be much simpler and more helpful to tag a group of
ancestors and sort by DOB regardless of name variations.

Art Seddon
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:
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
Why have to pay for an add-on to do a simple sort?

Because it's the only option for now? Duh...
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread Robert Norenberg
I have used Legacy for 3 years now ( switched from FTM) and cannot imagine
using any other type of software program (as of today anyways). I have been
extracting records from some parishes in Germany and would have been utterly
lost without the Search tools. There are all sorts of problems with these
old church records but with the Search tools I can get around many
obstacles. Also, being able to identify locales has been simplified with the
Geo Loacation Database. My latest discovery has been being able to utilize
ALL 9 tags instead of only 3. In the Index view I have altered the columns
and it can include all of my tags which is important to me as I use them
all.  Regards Robert

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 2:21 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.netwrote:

 Yes. I frequently have Legacy visible on 1/2 screen, the Swedish online
 pages on the other, and the program Paint, and the 'photos subdirectory'
 hiding on the bottom, to check which pages I already have, then copy new
 pages using the Swedish copy numbering system.
 Rich in LA CA


 - Original Message 
 From: Sherry daughterofmyfat...@comcast.net
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:47:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

 I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at
 a Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking
 at an on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website? I
 wonder, too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a
 paragraph or picture from a website to my individual or family record?

 Sherry

 - Original Message -
 From: Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:38:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

 I like being able to choose the size  font type that I prefer.  I also
 like being able to make Legacy fit only1/2 of the screen  still be
 legible while I look @ digitized records on the other 1/2 of the screen.

 Dawn




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Yes, it is more dificult I recognized that.

However - if the programmers are already doing a secondary sort on dob (the
primary sort being on Name - and Sherry from Legacy said that Legacy does
the secondary automatically when you are sorting by name for all names that
are the same) - they obviously have the code available to sort the dates
(even the non-standard ones)  so that makes it pretty trivial to this
programmer mind.


On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote:

 Heather Stovold wrote:

 Thanks Sherry - the problem is we would rather be able to sort by the DOB
 column (or potentially any column shown) so that we can look for people with
 the same or similar birth dates that don't have the same name.  I know if it
 was a standard date field it would probably be trivial code - but I do
 recognize that genealogy dates are not in a standard date field.


 And dates taken from the GRO are definitely non-standard, being entered as
 month Q year, where month is Mar or Jun or Sep or Dec. A standard can
 not be used for this since the month Q combination is shorthand for 1
 month - 2 to last day month.

 Definitely *not* a trivial exercise for the programmers :-)




Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread Jenny M Benson

Sherry wrote
I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can 
look at a Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you 
are looking at an on-line digitized record of a census or information 
on a website?


Yes.  It's possible to do that with pretty much any program - you just 
reduce the size of the 2 (or more! - I know someone who habitually works 
with about 4 windows open at the same time!)  windows and position them 
as you want.


I wonder, too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and 
paste a paragraph or picture from a website to my individual or family 
record?


Certainly if the website allows copying of text you can paste it into a 
field in Legacy, but you can't do that with pictures.  With pictures you 
have to save them to your hard drive or some other local storage device 
from where Legacy can access them.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Heather Stovold
Now, just sort the name list... (the name index) - then I don't need to know
who to select or tag beforehand.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Robert Carneal USA
carnea...@adelphia.netwrote:

 Art-

 Let me reword what I think you said--

 You want to be able to open a family file, any family file, and select
 several people. Their names may, or may not, be similar.   Then, using the
 list of people you selected or tagged, and just those people only, you want
 to sort by birthdate, perhaps oldest to youngest, or youngest to oldest.

 Have I got it?

 Thanks.

 Robert


 At 2009-10-23  03:55 PM, you wrote:

 Sherry/Support wrote:

 snip The Name List is automatically sorted by DOB *if* the names are
 exactly the same.

 All John Does in the list will be ordered by birth date.  If you have a
 John X. Doe, that's not alphabetized, obviously, in the string of John
 Doe's.snip

 Yes Sherry, but it would be much simpler and more helpful to tag a group
 of
 ancestors and sort by DOB regardless of name variations.

 Art Seddon
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Art Seddon
You got it, Robert. Just like you can tag any group of names and then show 
just the tagged names and sort by Given name or Surname or RIN.

Art

- Original Message - 
From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


: Art-
:
: Let me reword what I think you said--
:
: You want to be able to open a family file, any family file, and
: select several people. Their names may, or may not, be
: similar.   Then, using the list of people you selected or tagged, and
: just those people only, you want to sort by birthdate, perhaps oldest
: to youngest, or youngest to oldest.
:
: Have I got it?
:
: Thanks.
:
: Robert
:




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Jay at 1Familytree.com
Actually the Legacy database ALREADY contains the sorted birth dates in a field 
called BIRTHSD in the Indivdual's record in the tblIR. There is also the sorted 
Death date in DeathSD and BurialSD for sorted burials. 




From: Heather Stovold 
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:53 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


Yes, it is more dificult I recognized that.

However - if the programmers are already doing a secondary sort on dob (the 
primary sort being on Name - and Sherry from Legacy said that Legacy does the 
secondary automatically when you are sorting by name for all names that are the 
same) - they obviously have the code available to sort the dates (even the 
non-standard ones)  so that makes it pretty trivial to this programmer mind.


 
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Mike Fry mike...@iafrica.com wrote:

  Heather Stovold wrote:

Thanks Sherry - the problem is we would rather be able to sort by the DOB 
column (or potentially any column shown) so that we can look for people with 
the same or similar birth dates that don't have the same name.  I know if it 
was a standard date field it would probably be trivial code - but I do 
recognize that genealogy dates are not in a standard date field.



  And dates taken from the GRO are definitely non-standard, being entered as 
month Q year, where month is Mar or Jun or Sep or Dec. A standard can not 
be used for this since the month Q combination is shorthand for 1 month - 2 
to last day month.

  Definitely *not* a trivial exercise for the programmers :-)






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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-23 Thread Robert Carneal USA
I do this for cemeteries. Several cemeteries are interred by date. 
That is, they start in one corner or one spot, and from there 
spiraled outwards. I know Sherry already said this, but what I do 
here is enter everyone I have for that cemetery. Since I need it 
sorted by BURIAL date, I open it up in GenViewer and make a copy for 
the spreadsheet. Then in Excel (or whatever spreadsheet I am using), 
I make my burial date my primary sort, secondary sort is the name, 
and ternary sort based on the birth date. I don't know what I would 
do without GenViewer! I have the full version of GenViewer, but don't 
forget GenViewer Lite is free; though I don't know what features are 
deactivated for the Lite version.


Basically, what you are asking for is a fourth way to sort the names. 
You can suggest it by going to the Legacy Home Tab, and on the left 
side under Support, there is a line there to Suggest a new feature. 
That is not a guarantee the developers will put it in, though, but 
they will see the suggestion.


Thanks.

Robert

At 2009-10-23  05:57 PM, you wrote:

You got it, Robert. Just like you can tag any group of names and then show
just the tagged names and sort by Given name or Surname or RIN.

Art

- Original Message -
From: Robert Carneal USA carnea...@adelphia.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


: Art-
:
: Let me reword what I think you said--
:
: You want to be able to open a family file, any family file, and
: select several people. Their names may, or may not, be
: similar.   Then, using the list of people you selected or tagged, and
: just those people only, you want to sort by birthdate, perhaps oldest
: to youngest, or youngest to oldest.
:
: Have I got it?
:
: Thanks.
:
: Robert
:




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread Sherry
Thanks everyone for such a quick response to my questions. This group is great.

Sherry

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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:57:59 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

Sherry wrote
I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can 
look at a Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you 
are looking at an on-line digitized record of a census or information 
on a website?

Yes.  It's possible to do that with pretty much any program - you just 
reduce the size of the 2 (or more! - I know someone who habitually works 
with about 4 windows open at the same time!)  windows and position them 
as you want.

 I wonder, too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and 
paste a paragraph or picture from a website to my individual or family 
record?

Certainly if the website allows copying of text you can paste it into a 
field in Legacy, but you can't do that with pictures.  With pictures you 
have to save them to your hard drive or some other local storage device 
from where Legacy can access them.

-- 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

2009-10-23 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
As I said in my previous sending, the fourth screen is the 'photo directory', 
which I have subdivded as such:
E:photos/
pictures/
photos1 through photos9-locations-censusUS-censusSwedish-documents-graves
under each category I have further 'split' by location or year.
In some cases I have over 50 in a category.
This way I can copy a 'photo' from a print screen, save with paint, then add 
that to the new event screen, changing windows back and forth. It took me a 
while to formalize the process and simplify it. I no longer use my written 
instructions, but reccomend creating something to assist your process until 
learned.
Rich in LA CA

 


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From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 3:57:59 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features - #2

Sherry wrote
 I am fairly new to Legacy and am wondering if you mean that you can look at a 
 Legacy record of a family or individual at the same time you are looking at 
 an on-line digitized record of a census or information on a website?

Yes.  It's possible to do that with pretty much any program - you just reduce 
the size of the 2 (or more! - I know someone who habitually works with about 4 
windows open at the same time!)  windows and position them as you want.

 I wonder, too, if that is possible, then is it possible to cut and paste a 
 paragraph or picture from a website to my individual or family record?

Certainly if the website allows copying of text you can paste it into a field 
in Legacy, but you can't do that with pictures.  With pictures you have to save 
them to your hard drive or some other local storage device from where Legacy 
can access them.

-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread Michele Lewis

What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by birthdate?

michele


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From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features



Chick:

I'm with you on sorting names by dob; it's one of the two relatively small
FTM features that I miss.  For now I send a GEDCOM from Legacy to an old
copy of FTM and sort there, but it would certainly be handy to be able to 
do
it within Legacy.  Seems it would be easy enough to add.  I don't 
understand

the lack of a dob sort for names.

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread Dawn Crowley
I'm not sure what the purpose of sorting by birthdate would be.  Are you 
aware that Legacy has a calendar creator under reports - all reports?  
Perhaps that would meet your needs.


Dawn

Chick Lewis wrote:

No, that is not what I meant.  I know the children can by sorted by
birth date. I am talking about the ability to sort the index by birth
date as well as by name or RIN. This has been discussed before on the
list but there does not seem to be enough interest for Legacy to add
this feature.

Chick


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Arnold Sprague
aspra...@chicagobooth.edu wrote:
  

Chick,

One way is to go to the children, if this is what you are writing about,
right-click on them, left-click on Children's Settings..., and move the
kids up/down with the up/down arrows found in the lower right-hand corner.

All features are there in Legacy.

Arnold Sprague



At 02:21 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:


I too am a convertee from FTM16, although I did try FTM 2008 and 2009.
Needless to say I was disappointed with both.  I am very happy with
Legacy 7 and learning new things every day.  This is a great thread,
and although I love all the features already mentioned, my favorite
has to be the wonderful support from the Legacy staff.  Sherry, Brian,
et all are great.  I would like to see the ability to sort on birth
date though.  That is the ONLY feature I miss from FTM.

Chick Lewis


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:50 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
  

In response to the question 'what I don't like about Legacy', I used to
have a long list, but most have been fixed (submitted by me and others),
some are still pending, and I tried for a while to come up with a new list
and couldn't. My favorite part is the flexibility of Events.
Rich in LA CA



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To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote


But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called The
least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that in the past and a
few jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that if I didn't like
it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have come and gone but
even at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about posting a laundry list of
those items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up one at a time and
add my sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test the waters.?
  

Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, just a few
things I'd like to see which have been aired here before - and often
submitted by me or others as enhancement suggestions.  There are probably
quite a few features I never use, but just because I personally have no need
of them doesn't mean I am not very happy for them to be there for others.  I
*do* like the way the LDS features can all be tucked away out of site so
they don't clutter the screen up for those who don't use them, but the
generosity of the LDS towards *all* genealogists is incredible and I
begrudge them nothing.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Michele:

A dob sort is one other way to view the Name List and check for duplicates.
I have a spider web of several hundred Acadians and it's easy to miss common
ancestors in all that.  It's a quick way to check for blank dob fields
(which can also be done with a search), it's one more way to scan for
odd-looking entries, and I like to open and sort a GEDCOM by dob before
posting online to make sure I haven't accidentally included someone I
shouldn't have.

None are big deals, and wild horses couldn't drag me back to FTM for data
entry, but it would be handy to have a dob sort capability within Legacy.

Kirsten

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What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by birthdate?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread Chick Lewis
This has been discussed before, (Things I Would Like to See thread)
however, I will recap for those interested.  Comparing individuals by
birth date rather than name will sometimes reveal the existence of an
un-connected individual with a different name or name change.
The ability to sort on birth date is a proven tool that is available
in most genealogy programs.

Rebecca Williams gave a good example:  Suppose you have a Thomas
Hughes b. 16 Jan 1725 and a T. Wilson Hewes b. 16 Jan 1725.  You would
see at once the possibility they may be the same person.   If  there
were many names in a family that began with the letters Ha, He, Hi,
Ho, or Hu, the Hewes and Hughes surnames might not sort close enough
together to see this connection.

In another example, I had a David Kerido and a floater Dave Crudo in
my data base, both with close, but not exactly the same birth dates.
When I sorted the index on birth date, the two names were in close
proximity and the similarity was evident.  Upon further investigation
they turned out to be the same person.  Someone suggested using the
wildcard search for the name Querido.  That would never turn up either
Kerido or Crudo. However, those two names with similar birth dates
stood out when the index was sorted on birth date.

On one occasion I came across a name that wasn't even close to the one
I was looking for, but I recognized it as a family name. Further
investigation found that person was living with a relative and using
their name. Subsequent records proved that person was the missing
ancestor.

Some cultures use the mother's maiden name as the family name and as
you trace back in time you will find that they are sometimes
interchanged. Surnames can also change from country to country and in
many places didn't even exist before 1800.  When tracing Jewish
ancestry it gets even more complicated and multiple surnames may be
found in the same family. I have seen cases where two brothers had
different surnames.

The birth date sort in FTM is a simple click of a button.  Legacy
sorts on RIN, First or Surname. Why not add birth date?  Someone
suggested it can be done in Legacy using the search function, but this
is terribly time consuming.   Someone else suggested using the Legacy
add-on, GenViewer.  That may work but why use an add-on to perform a
simple task that could easily be part of the program?

For now, I am doing the same thing that Kirsten does.  I gedcom back
to FTM when I need to sort on birth date.

Chick Lewis


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 What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by birthdate?

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
When I had a program that did that, I would sort all births for a parish 
register search, to simplify 'scrolling'  through the document. Since it added 
in the 'abt' and 'year only', I could find them all in the once pass through. 
When I moved to L5, I made ToDo forms which printed on the 'same page',  which 
was a 'fix'. 
Rich in LA CA 


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Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:06:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by birthdate?

michele


- Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


 Chick:
 
 I'm with you on sorting names by dob; it's one of the two relatively small
 FTM features that I miss.  For now I send a GEDCOM from Legacy to an old
 copy of FTM and sort there, but it would certainly be handy to be able to do
 it within Legacy.  Seems it would be easy enough to add.  I don't understand
 the lack of a dob sort for names.
 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread Deb Yarbrough
I, too, would love the ability to sort by dob, cd  dod.  --why not sort on 
any field shown in your view.. or maybe you'd have to create a view with 
given fields, and one or two index fields... since access based, could 
possibly be done, but the database would become gianormous and each person 
added would increasingly add to the database and indices!!
Another thing I'd like to see is the possibility to see *ALL* alternate 
names from the merge screen, and the possibility to delete said names from 
the merge screen.  However, I realize that this is an option that would 
serve very few, and only occasionally, so I am plugging away at fixing my 
database after a large merge from someone who used a program that added 
surname as well as given/surname as alternate names!!


I've been using Legacy since v2, and my database is now rather large.  Abt 2 
years ago, I had the brainstorm of downloading an online database to which I 
and others had been adding data (and sources)... as well as another one sent 
to me by someone using FTM. I have been spending almost all of my genealogy 
time merging, deleting and cleaning the old databases... I have on my to do 
list... creating to do lists for individuals, converting and cleaning 
sources, notes and events.. (and making them uniform by source/event type)


Not a big undertaking I may be done by year 2100

Deb


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To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


When I had a program that did that, I would sort all births for a parish 
register search, to simplify 'scrolling' through the document. Since it 
added in the 'abt' and 'year only', I could find them all in the once pass 
through. When I moved to L5, I made ToDo forms which printed on the 'same 
page', which was a 'fix'.

Rich in LA CA


- Original Message 
From: Michele Lewis cranberryf...@charter.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:06:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

What is the advantage of being able to sort the name list by birthdate?

michele


- Original Message - From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features



Chick:

I'm with you on sorting names by dob; it's one of the two relatively small
FTM features that I miss. For now I send a GEDCOM from Legacy to an old
copy of FTM and sort there, but it would certainly be handy to be able to 
do

it within Legacy. Seems it would be easy enough to add. I don't understand
the lack of a dob sort for names.

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-22 Thread Art Seddon
I've often wished I could sort DOB when looking for duplicates.

Art Seddon

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: 
: I'm not sure what the purpose of sorting by birthdate would be.  Are you 
: aware that Legacy has a calendar creator under reports - all reports?  
: Perhaps that would meet your needs.
: 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Jenny M Benson

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called The 
least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that in the past 
and a few jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that if I 
didn't like it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have 
come and gone but even at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about 
posting a laundry list of those items. I'll just wait for them to 
eventually pop up one at a time and add my sentiments then. Unless 
somebody else wants to test the waters.?


Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, just a few 
things I'd like to see which have been aired here before - and often 
submitted by me or others as enhancement suggestions.  There are 
probably quite a few features I never use, but just because I personally 
have no need of them doesn't mean I am not very happy for them to be 
there for others.  I *do* like the way the LDS features can all be 
tucked away out of site so they don't clutter the screen up for those 
who don't use them, but the generosity of the LDS towards *all* 
genealogists is incredible and I begrudge them nothing.

--
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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread William H. Boswell
I didn't know about the event clipboard.  That could be very useful instead
of having to re-enter the same event for several individuals.

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The event clipboard would be a close second to the source clipboard, as far
as my favorites go. Both these features are great!

Sherry from Bowlegs, Okla.

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Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:25 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


 Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I
 picked
 up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new
 users
 sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
 these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
 favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should
 drop
 everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

 Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

 Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Ruth Nerud

I didn't know about either of these features. Thanks - I'll be using them
from now on.

Ruth A. (Sconza Testa) Nerud
baber...@worldnet.att.net

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Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

#1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is easy
to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking on the
adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.

#2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one spouse,
it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely left-clicking on
the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins of the Family View.

#1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who are in
the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each of them
using the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or boos, as an
event and thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the Clipboard, to all
siblings who are in the same census.)

Arnold Sprague



At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I
picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new
users
sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should
drop
everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Janet Lee
Thank you,

I have learned something.  I didn't know about #2 Family View: If the
highlighted individual has more than one spouse...

Janet

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 2:16 PM, Arnold Sprague
aspra...@chicagobooth.eduwrote:

 Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

 #1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is easy
 to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking on the
 adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.

 #2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one spouse,
 it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely left-clicking on
 the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins of the Family View.

 #1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who are in
 the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each of them using
 the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or boos, as an event and
 thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the Clipboard, to all siblings
 who are in the same census.)

 Arnold Sprague




 At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

 Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I
 picked
 up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new
 users
 sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
 these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
 favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should
 drop
 everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

 Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

 Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
In response to the question 'what I don't like about Legacy', I used to have a 
long list, but most have been fixed (submitted by me and others), some are 
still pending, and I tried for a while to come up with a new list and couldn't. 
My favorite part is the flexibility of Events.
Rich in LA CA



- Original Message 
From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:13 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
 But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called The least 
 liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that in the past and a few 
 jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that if I didn't like it 
 here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have come and gone but even 
 at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about posting a laundry list of those 
 items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up one at a time and add my 
 sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test the waters.?

Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, just a few things 
I'd like to see which have been aired here before - and often submitted by me 
or others as enhancement suggestions.  There are probably quite a few features 
I never use, but just because I personally have no need of them doesn't mean I 
am not very happy for them to be there for others.  I *do* like the way the LDS 
features can all be tucked away out of site so they don't clutter the screen up 
for those who don't use them, but the generosity of the LDS towards *all* 
genealogists is incredible and I begrudge them nothing.
-- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Chick Lewis
I too am a convertee from FTM16, although I did try FTM 2008 and 2009.
Needless to say I was disappointed with both.  I am very happy with
Legacy 7 and learning new things every day.  This is a great thread,
and although I love all the features already mentioned, my favorite
has to be the wonderful support from the Legacy staff.  Sherry, Brian,
et all are great.  I would like to see the ability to sort on birth
date though.  That is the ONLY feature I miss from FTM.

Chick Lewis


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:50 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 In response to the question 'what I don't like about Legacy', I used to have 
 a long list, but most have been fixed (submitted by me and others), some are 
 still pending, and I tried for a while to come up with a new list and 
 couldn't. My favorite part is the flexibility of Events.
 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

 Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
 But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called The least 
 liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that in the past and a few 
 jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that if I didn't like it 
 here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have come and gone but even 
 at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about posting a laundry list of 
 those items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up one at a time and 
 add my sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test the waters.?

 Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, just a few 
 things I'd like to see which have been aired here before - and often 
 submitted by me or others as enhancement suggestions.  There are probably 
 quite a few features I never use, but just because I personally have no need 
 of them doesn't mean I am not very happy for them to be there for others.  I 
 *do* like the way the LDS features can all be tucked away out of site so they 
 don't clutter the screen up for those who don't use them, but the generosity 
 of the LDS towards *all* genealogists is incredible and I begrudge them 
 nothing.
 -- Jenny M Benson



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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Arnold Sprague

Chick,

One way is to go to the children, if this is what you are writing 
about, right-click on them, left-click on Children's Settings..., 
and move the kids up/down with the up/down arrows found in the lower 
right-hand corner.


All features are there in Legacy.

Arnold Sprague



At 02:21 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:

I too am a convertee from FTM16, although I did try FTM 2008 and 2009.
Needless to say I was disappointed with both.  I am very happy with
Legacy 7 and learning new things every day.  This is a great thread,
and although I love all the features already mentioned, my favorite
has to be the wonderful support from the Legacy staff.  Sherry, Brian,
et all are great.  I would like to see the ability to sort on birth
date though.  That is the ONLY feature I miss from FTM.

Chick Lewis


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:50 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
 In response to the question 'what I don't like about Legacy', I 
used to have a long list, but most have been fixed (submitted by me 
and others), some are still pending, and I tried for a while to 
come up with a new list and couldn't. My favorite part is the 
flexibility of Events.

 Rich in LA CA



 - Original Message 
 From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
 To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
 Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:13 AM
 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

 Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
 But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called 
The least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that in 
the past and a few jumped all over me with nasty words to the 
effect that if I didn't like it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, 
those people have come and gone but even at this time, I remain a 
little gun-shy about posting a laundry list of those items. I'll 
just wait for them to eventually pop up one at a time and add my 
sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test the waters.?


 Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, 
just a few things I'd like to see which have been aired here before 
- and often submitted by me or others as enhancement 
suggestions.  There are probably quite a few features I never use, 
but just because I personally have no need of them doesn't mean I 
am not very happy for them to be there for others.  I *do* like the 
way the LDS features can all be tucked away out of site so they 
don't clutter the screen up for those who don't use them, but the 
generosity of the LDS towards *all* genealogists is incredible and 
I begrudge them nothing.

 -- Jenny M Benson





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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Chick:

I'm with you on sorting names by dob; it's one of the two relatively small
FTM features that I miss.  For now I send a GEDCOM from Legacy to an old
copy of FTM and sort there, but it would certainly be handy to be able to do
it within Legacy.  Seems it would be easy enough to add.  I don't understand
the lack of a dob sort for names.

Kirsten

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I too am a convertee from FTM16, although I did try FTM 2008 and 2009.
Needless to say I was disappointed with both.  I am very happy with
Legacy 7 and learning new things every day.  This is a great thread,
and although I love all the features already mentioned, my favorite
has to be the wonderful support from the Legacy staff.  Sherry, Brian,
et all are great.  I would like to see the ability to sort on birth
date though.  That is the ONLY feature I miss from FTM.

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Chick Lewis
No, that is not what I meant.  I know the children can by sorted by
birth date. I am talking about the ability to sort the index by birth
date as well as by name or RIN. This has been discussed before on the
list but there does not seem to be enough interest for Legacy to add
this feature.

Chick


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Arnold Sprague
aspra...@chicagobooth.edu wrote:
 Chick,

 One way is to go to the children, if this is what you are writing about,
 right-click on them, left-click on Children's Settings..., and move the
 kids up/down with the up/down arrows found in the lower right-hand corner.

 All features are there in Legacy.

 Arnold Sprague



 At 02:21 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:

 I too am a convertee from FTM16, although I did try FTM 2008 and 2009.
 Needless to say I was disappointed with both.  I am very happy with
 Legacy 7 and learning new things every day.  This is a great thread,
 and although I love all the features already mentioned, my favorite
 has to be the wonderful support from the Legacy staff.  Sherry, Brian,
 et all are great.  I would like to see the ability to sort on birth
 date though.  That is the ONLY feature I miss from FTM.

 Chick Lewis


 On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 8:50 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 fourpa...@verizon.net wrote:
  In response to the question 'what I don't like about Legacy', I used to
  have a long list, but most have been fixed (submitted by me and others),
  some are still pending, and I tried for a while to come up with a new list
  and couldn't. My favorite part is the flexibility of Events.
  Rich in LA CA
 
 
 
  - Original Message 
  From: Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk
  To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:47:13 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features
 
  Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
  But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new thread called The
  least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that in the past and a
  few jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that if I didn't 
  like
  it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have come and gone but
  even at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about posting a laundry list 
  of
  those items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up one at a time 
  and
  add my sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test the 
  waters.?
 
  Off-hand, I can't think of any features that really peeve me, just a few
  things I'd like to see which have been aired here before - and often
  submitted by me or others as enhancement suggestions.  There are probably
  quite a few features I never use, but just because I personally have no 
  need
  of them doesn't mean I am not very happy for them to be there for others.  
  I
  *do* like the way the LDS features can all be tucked away out of site so
  they don't clutter the screen up for those who don't use them, but the
  generosity of the LDS towards *all* genealogists is incredible and I
  begrudge them nothing.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-21 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Arnold:

I don't know about Chick, but I'm missing the ability to sort the entire
Name List by dob.  That's an option within FTM and you can choose to have
oldest first or youngest first.  Either way, those with no dob sort
alphabetically at the top of the list followed by the others in date order.
It's pretty handy, but certainly not a deal-maker.

Kirsten

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Behalf Of Arnold Sprague
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:22 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


Chick,

One way is to go to the children, if this is what you are writing
about, right-click on them, left-click on Children's Settings...,
and move the kids up/down with the up/down arrows found in the lower
right-hand corner.

All features are there in Legacy.

Arnold Sprague



At 02:21 PM 10/21/2009, you wrote:
I too am a convertee from FTM16, although I did try FTM 2008 and 2009.
Needless to say I was disappointed with both.  I am very happy with
Legacy 7 and learning new things every day.  This is a great thread,
and although I love all the features already mentioned, my favorite
has to be the wonderful support from the Legacy staff.  Sherry, Brian,
et all are great.  I would like to see the ability to sort on birth
date though.  That is the ONLY feature I miss from FTM.

Chick Lewis





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Jenny M Benson

Kirsten Bowman wrote

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?


Not exactly a favourite feature, but something well worth pointing out 
to the new users of Legacy is the Tutorial included in the Help system. 
This takes you through everything you need to know to get up and running 
in Legacy and as it is broken down into bit-size lessons and demos you 
can take it stage by stage and run through it again when you need to 
revise a particular topic.


I know other LUGgers speak highly of the training videos - I have only 
seen the free ones and previews available on the Legacy site and I agree 
they are excellent, too but the Tutorial is all free!

--
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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Michele Lewis
My fav are the searches and tags.  My 2nd fav are the event clipboard and 
the source clipboards.


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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Another favorite of mine is the Tree Finder (View  Tree Finder [Refresh]).
It's an excellent way to check for those individuals that you might have
accidentally unlinked from your main tree.

Kirsten

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My fav are the searches and tags.  My 2nd fav are the event clipboard and
the source clipboards.

michele








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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Arnold Sprague

Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

#1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is 
easy to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking 
on the adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.


#2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one 
spouse, it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely 
left-clicking on the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins 
of the Family View.


#1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who 
are in the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each 
of them using the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or 
boos, as an event and thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the 
Clipboard, to all siblings who are in the same census.)


Arnold Sprague



At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new users
sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should drop
everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Arnold:

Thanks for that.  I knew about rotating through siblings but somehow I had
missed the trick about rotating through spouses.  That's very handy.

Kirsten

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Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

#1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is
easy to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking
on the adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.

#2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one
spouse, it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely
left-clicking on the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins
of the Family View.

#1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who
are in the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each
of them using the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or
boos, as an event and thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the
Clipboard, to all siblings who are in the same census.)

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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Dawn Crowley

You got my personal favorites!

Arnold Sprague wrote:

Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

#1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is 
easy to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking on 
the adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.


#2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one 
spouse, it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely 
left-clicking on the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins 
of the Family View.


#1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who are 
in the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each of 
them using the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or boos, 
as an event and thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the 
Clipboard, to all siblings who are in the same census.)


Arnold Sprague



At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:
Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I 
picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new 
users

sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My 
personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it 
should drop

everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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RE: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Brian L. Lightfoot
OK, just thought that I'd chime in here and list some of my favorite
features. I like how this thread is going and certainly hope that the
programmers are aware of what we are all listing. In other words, if the
public likes it and it ain't broke, please don't fix it.

I switched from FTM to Legacy because of the HTML generating capabilities. I
liked the report-like sentence structure that Legacy would generate. And
yes, I'm aware of the dozens of GEDCOM-to-HTML shareware programs that are
out there. I've tried most of them, paid for a few, but was mostly
disappointed in the long run. Most had a tendency to create thousands of
small files that carried the note and source info. Now here is something
else I found out by not reading the fine print. The host for my web site
advertised 10 gigs of storage space but I found out the hard way that there
was also a finite limit on the total number of files. Go figure! I was only
half-way through FTPing my files up to the server when I got an out of
storage space error even though I had moved less than 5 megs of files. And
while Legacy's HTML capabilities are pretty basic, its been said many times
over that this is a genealogy program and not a HTML editor. I generally use
Front Page (now called Microsoft Expression Web) to add the additional bells
and whistles to the HTML.

And like most others, I discovered that the clipboard for events and sources
is an absolute plus for this program. The minute I discovered its uses, I
was really sold on the program and haven't looked back since. There are many
other outstanding features but this one is the clincher.

Brian in CA


PS - I'm sure those at Millennia are taking note of this thread, or at least
probably already know what's on our mind (or at the very least SHOULD know
what's on our minds.) But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new
thread called The least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that
in the past and a few jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect that
if I didn't like it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have
come and gone but even at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about posting
a laundry list of those items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up
one at a time and add my sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to test
the waters.?




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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Heather Stovold
Besides the rotating through spouses  (and thanks, I didn't know about the
rotating through siblings!) I love the view 1/2 kids.   In Family view -
right-click on a child (any), and then from the menu that comes up, select
Vies - Show 1/2 kids.   You will now see any kids that have one parent from
the family (and a parent not in the family being viewed) - along with the
name of the other parent in brackets.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Dawn Crowley sc...@relatively-speaking.org
 wrote:

 You got my personal favorites!


 Arnold Sprague wrote:

 Two Legacy features that I especially like are:

 #1. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has siblings, it is easy
 to rotate through the brothers/sisters by merely left-clicking on the
 adjacent thin *vertical* space in the *middle* of the Family View.

 #2. Family View: If the *highlighted* individual has more than one spouse,
 it is easy to rotate through the husbands/wives by merely left-clicking on
 the adjacent thin space in the *left/right* margins of the Family View.

 #1 and #2 above allow one to quickly go through family members who are in
 the same census, for example, and add the Census Event to each of them using
 the Clipboard. (I use a census, please *no* hisses or boos, as an event and
 thus can quickly add the Census Event, via the Clipboard, to all siblings
 who are in the same census.)

 Arnold Sprague



 At 03:25 PM 10/19/2009, you wrote:

 Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I
 picked
 up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new
 users
 sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
 these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
 favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should
 drop
 everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

 Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

 Kirsten





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Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-20 Thread Heather Stovold
hm - that might go down better with people if you did both at once that
is

What I really love about Legacy is.   What I don't like about Legacy
is (or I really wish Legacy could do this.   - so that people
would see both at once, and not get thinking it was a bad programmer.

As a programmer (not from Legacy) it can definately be helpful knowing what
people would like, or what they find complicated about a program, or
improvements and although there is a way to put in suggestions (which I
have) - sometimes a discussion can bring out a better way to do
something  on the other hand, I could see how a negative thread could
upset people, or could give new people the wrong impression about a great
program.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Brian L. Lightfoot 
br...@the-lightfoots.com wrote:

 PS - I'm sure those at Millennia are taking note of this thread, or at
 least
 probably already know what's on our mind (or at the very least SHOULD know
 what's on our minds.) But I've often wondered if we dared to start a new
 thread called The least liked features of Legacy. I've come close to that
 in the past and a few jumped all over me with nasty words to the effect
 that
 if I didn't like it here, I should go elsewhere. Well, those people have
 come and gone but even at this time, I remain a little gun-shy about
 posting
 a laundry list of those items. I'll just wait for them to eventually pop up
 one at a time and add my sentiments then. Unless somebody else wants to
 test
 the waters.?



Re: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features

2009-10-19 Thread S. Fry
The event clipboard would be a close second to the source clipboard, as far 
as my favorites go. Both these features are great!


Sherry from Bowlegs, Okla.

- Original Message - 
From: Kirsten Bowman vik...@rvi.net

To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 4:25 PM
Subject: [LegacyUG] Favorite Features


Mary's Lost post reminded me of how many great tips and shortcuts I 
picked
up from the LUG when I first started using Legacy.  Unfortunately new 
users

sometimes don't even know the question to ask in order to find some of
these, and LUG discussions lately seem to be far from basic.  My personal
favorite is the Source Clipboard, and anyone who isn't using it should 
drop

everything and read Legacy's Help  Index  Clipboard  Source.

Would others like to mention their favorite feature or shortcut?

Kirsten





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