Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6)
About a year ago I was succesfull in installing and using hipersockets under SuSe Linux 8 in z/vm guest. Now I try the same but i am not successfull with it in Suse Linux version 9 (kernel 2.6). I should have files like /etc/chandev.conf and /etc/modules.conf but they don't exist in this new release ?! anyone an idea? Kind Regards, Arjen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Disclaimer The information contained in this message is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privacy sensitive information. If you are not the addressee of this message, you may not use, distribute or disclose this information in any way. If you have received this message mistakenly, please notify us immediately and destroy this message forthwith. KAS BANK N.V. does not guarantee that the information contained in this message will be correctly or entirely received by the recipient. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6)
On 4/27/06, ING. A. Neij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have files like /etc/chandev.conf and /etc/modules.conf but they don't exist in this new release ?! anyone an idea? With Linux 2.6 kernel the chandev brain damage has gone. You find the corresponding things in the /sys file system. The SuSE boot scripts use control files in /etc/sysconfig/hardware and /etc/sysconfig/network to define the devices. YaST will define these files for you if you want. Have a look at the current Device Drivers book to see how you define them manually. Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6)
The structures for driving 390 znd z/series devices has changed considerably. Please have a look at the linux on z/series Device Drivers, Features, and Commands reference manual available on the IBM website. It describes all of this. Try: http://download.boulder.ibm.com/ibmdl/pub/software/dw/linux390/docu/l26cdd01.pdf /etc/modules.conf still exists as the method of describing modules, aliases, and passing parameters. David Kreuter -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port on behalf of ING. A. Neij Sent: Thu 4/27/2006 8:58 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Configuring Hipersockets under z/vm suse 9 (kernel 2.6) About a year ago I was succesfull in installing and using hipersockets under SuSe Linux 8 in z/vm guest. Now I try the same but i am not successfull with it in Suse Linux version 9 (kernel 2.6). I should have files like /etc/chandev.conf and /etc/modules.conf but they don't exist in this new release ?! anyone an idea? Kind Regards, Arjen email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Disclaimer The information contained in this message is intended only for the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privacy sensitive information. If you are not the addressee of this message, you may not use, distribute or disclose this information in any way. If you have received this message mistakenly, please notify us immediately and destroy this message forthwith. KAS BANK N.V. does not guarantee that the information contained in this message will be correctly or entirely received by the recipient. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Installing THE 3.2
Hi, I have been trying to install THE (The Hessling Editor) under Centos 4.2. I have installed version 3.0.2 from an ancient RPM, and it works fine. When I install version 3.1 or 3.2 from the tarball, I get garbage on the command line when I edit a file while using a profile. I get the following characters on the command line: 63;1;2;6;7;8;9;11;14c63;1;2;6;7;8;9;11;14c. I'm hoping that this is just a configuration or other install problem, but I can't see anything obvious. The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 attachment: image001.jpg
Install question
I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. I am unable to ftp the root file system into the LINUX(page 116 of the Linux for S/390 install/config). I am unable to ping from my PC to the LINUX. I am able to ping from the tcpmaint ID to the LINUX but it seems I can not do this from outside of the mainframe. Ping Level 520: Pinging host xx.xx.xx.60. Enter 'HX' followed by 'BEGIN' to interrupt. PING: Ping #1 response took 0.001 seconds. Successes so far 1 Ready; T=0.03/0.04 09:04:07 This is my config from inside the LINUX. ifconfig ctc0 Link encap:Serial Line IP inet addr:xx.xx.xx.60 P-t-P:xx.xx.xx.62 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Can you get a point to point connection to the external world? From the tcpmaint id in VM. ifconfig -a ETH0 inet addr: 10.1.1.62 mask: 255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1492 vdev: 0014 rdev: 0014 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED RX bytes: 1423930 TX bytes: 8015 LI2000LNK inet addr: 10.1.1.62 P-t-P: 10.1.1.60 mask: 255.255.255.255 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST POINTOPOINT MTU: 9216 vdev: 2000 type: CTC portnumber: 0 connects to: LINMSTR 2005 cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED RX bytes: 75868 TX bytes: 31108 Ready; T=0.04/0.05 09:57:00 Is there any other parm I have to add to the TCPIP stack other then devise,link,home,gateway, and start? FONT SIZE=1 FACE=ARIAL^ This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. Personal emails are restricted by policy of the State Employees' Credit Union (SECU). Therefore SECU specifically disclaims any responsibility or liability for any personal information or opinions of the author expressed in this email. /FONT -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
New z9 System BC and System EC plus new VM function
I haven't seen anyone post these here yet. If I missed that post, just hit *DELETE* on this one. z9 System BC - http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annredon=106-287 z9 System EC - http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annredon=106-293 z/VM 5.2 - http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?it=usa_annredon=206-084 Bob LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
The most common reason for this with someone just starting to use z/Linux is your Linux guest and your VM OSA interface to the rest of the world are on the same subnet, and you have not added PROXYARP to ASSORTEDPARMS in your PROFILE TCPIP. Do it the right way from the beginning, get a new subnet for your Linux guests. Saves a lot of pain in the short and long term. And while your at it, download a more recent Linux, such as Centos http://www.centos.org. You can't learn all that much from such an old version. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harting, David Sent: April 27, 2006 10:04 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Install question I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. I am unable to ftp the root file system into the LINUX(page 116 of the Linux for S/390 install/config). I am unable to ping from my PC to the LINUX. I am able to ping from the tcpmaint ID to the LINUX but it seems I can not do this from outside of the mainframe. Ping Level 520: Pinging host xx.xx.xx.60. Enter 'HX' followed by 'BEGIN' to interrupt. PING: Ping #1 response took 0.001 seconds. Successes so far 1 Ready; T=0.03/0.04 09:04:07 This is my config from inside the LINUX. ifconfig ctc0 Link encap:Serial Line IP inet addr:xx.xx.xx.60 P-t-P:xx.xx.xx.62 Mask:255.255.255.255 UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:100 Can you get a point to point connection to the external world? From the tcpmaint id in VM. ifconfig -a ETH0 inet addr: 10.1.1.62 mask: 255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU: 1492 vdev: 0014 rdev: 0014 type: QDIO ETHERNET portname: UNASSIGNED ipv4 router type: NONROUTER ipv6: DISABLED cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED RX bytes: 1423930 TX bytes: 8015 LI2000LNK inet addr: 10.1.1.62 P-t-P: 10.1.1.60 mask: 255.255.255.255 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST POINTOPOINT MTU: 9216 vdev: 2000 type: CTC portnumber: 0 connects to: LINMSTR 2005 cpu: 0 forwarding: ENABLED RX bytes: 75868 TX bytes: 31108 Ready; T=0.04/0.05 09:57:00 Is there any other parm I have to add to the TCPIP stack other then devise,link,home,gateway, and start? FONT SIZE=1 FACE=ARIAL^ This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. Personal emails are restricted by policy of the State Employees' Credit Union (SECU). Therefore SECU specifically disclaims any responsibility or liability for any personal information or opinions of the author expressed in this email. /FONT -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
New z9 models
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
What file system type to use for LVM ?
Hi Listserv, Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Bernie Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the personal and confidential use of the recipient(s) named above. This message may be an attorney-client communication and/or work product and as such is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you have received this document in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by e-mail, and delete the original message. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. Bluntly, give up on the Marist distribution and start with something more modern that supports guest LANs. The Marist code is *ancient* and lacks a number of important things to make it usable for anything. You'll spend more time chasing those problems than learning anything about Linux. If you need a totally free distribution to play with, check into CentOS or Debian. Both are considerably more up to date, and much more representative of the current state of the art. Returning to your question: I am able to ping from the tcpmaint ID to the LINUX but it seems I can not do this from outside of the mainframe. The problem is not in your setup, but in the network outside your setup. You need to have your networking people insert a static route into the network infrastructure that tells the rest of the world that your Linux guest is reachable via the VM TCPIP stack, or configure MPROUTE on VM and have the networking guys accept routing updates from it. They're more likely to do the static route approach. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbHS390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
When we set the clocks ahead a couple of weeks ago, we noticed that each Linux image using rmfpms to report to the Performance Toolkit was reporting the wrong time. Restarting the process in Linux resolved the problem, but we'd rather not have to restart these processes on all of our images every time the time changes. Is there a way to get around this? Mark Wiggins University of Connecticut Operating Systems Programmer 860-486-2792 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
Since the Marist distro is so out-of-date, why is it still up and downloadable without large warnings to get a more modern level? Fuzzy -- Latin: Dum spiro spero. English: While I breathe, I hope. On 4/27/06, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bluntly, give up on the Marist distribution and start with something more modern that supports guest LANs. The Marist code is *ancient* and lacks a number of important things to make it usable for anything. You'll spend more time chasing those problems than learning anything about Linux. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
Thank you for your advice. I will try to install CentOS This is the second time. I have tried to install LINUX in a VM guest. First, I tried Debian. Second, I tried Marist. This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. All I want to do is get LINUX up and running and let some people see what we can do with it. It looks easy to do in the IBM magazines. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:57 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Install question I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. Bluntly, give up on the Marist distribution and start with something more modern that supports guest LANs. The Marist code is *ancient* and lacks a number of important things to make it usable for anything. You'll spend more time chasing those problems than learning anything about Linux. If you need a totally free distribution to play with, check into CentOS or Debian. Both are considerably more up to date, and much more representative of the current state of the art. Returning to your question: I am able to ping from the tcpmaint ID to the LINUX but it seems I can not do this from outside of the mainframe. The problem is not in your setup, but in the network outside your setup. You need to have your networking people insert a static route into the network infrastructure that tells the rest of the world that your Linux guest is reachable via the VM TCPIP stack, or configure MPROUTE on VM and have the networking guys accept routing updates from it. They're more likely to do the static route approach. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 FONT SIZE=1 FACE=ARIAL^ This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. Personal emails are restricted by policy of the State Employees' Credit Union (SECU). Therefore SECU specifically disclaims any responsibility or liability for any personal information or opinions of the author expressed in this email. /FONT -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Install EVMS and use evmsn in place of the YaST storage gui. Then you get a nice front end for both, and a whole lot more. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
The way you put this makes me think you set your hardware clock to local time. This is the wrong approach with Linux (and z/OS actually). If you set your hardware clock to GMT or UTC then use the correct timezone setting the adjustment for daylight savings time is automatic. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wiggins, Mark Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change When we set the clocks ahead a couple of weeks ago, we noticed that each Linux image using rmfpms to report to the Performance Toolkit was reporting the wrong time. Restarting the process in Linux resolved the problem, but we'd rather not have to restart these processes on all of our images every time the time changes. Is there a way to get around this? Mark Wiggins University of Connecticut Operating Systems Programmer 860-486-2792 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
I thought there were some data corruption problems with Reiser on s390. Is my impression mistaken? Jon snip Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. /snip -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class You can think of the z9 EC has the follow-on to the z990 and the z9 BC as the follow-on to the z890. Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
Everything looks easy in the magazines ;-) Coming from a mainframe background, Linux can be difficult. The installation instructions are not as good as z/VM or other mainframe OSes. You really have to have some kind of a Linux, PC or mainframe, around to help stage the install, since Windows is so incompatible in assorted areas. Pick a distribution, start your install, document what you have done, and post your questions here when you hit a problem. Remember, the more info you can give us on the problem, and what you have done, the easier it is to get help. The one advantage that the original Marist version had, was that it did not require an existing Linux to get started with. The later versions kind of need one to stage the install files, but they give you SO MUCH more. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harting, David Sent: April 27, 2006 11:19 To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Install question Thank you for your advice. I will try to install CentOS This is the second time. I have tried to install LINUX in a VM guest. First, I tried Debian. Second, I tried Marist. This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. All I want to do is get LINUX up and running and let some people see what we can do with it. It looks easy to do in the IBM magazines. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 10:57 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Install question I am installing Marist/LINUX on an IBM Z800 in a Z/VM guest. Bluntly, give up on the Marist distribution and start with something more modern that supports guest LANs. The Marist code is *ancient* and lacks a number of important things to make it usable for anything. You'll spend more time chasing those problems than learning anything about Linux. If you need a totally free distribution to play with, check into CentOS or Debian. Both are considerably more up to date, and much more representative of the current state of the art. Returning to your question: I am able to ping from the tcpmaint ID to the LINUX but it seems I can not do this from outside of the mainframe. The problem is not in your setup, but in the network outside your setup. You need to have your networking people insert a static route into the network infrastructure that tells the rest of the world that your Linux guest is reachable via the VM TCPIP stack, or configure MPROUTE on VM and have the networking guys accept routing updates from it. They're more likely to do the static route approach. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 FONT SIZE=1 FACE=ARIAL^ This email may contain confidential and privileged material for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete all copies. Any review or distribution by others is strictly prohibited. Personal emails are restricted by policy of the State Employees' Credit Union (SECU). Therefore SECU specifically disclaims any responsibility or liability for any personal information or opinions of the author expressed in this email. /FONT -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient or delegate is strictly prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. The integrity and security of this message cannot by guaranteed on the Internet. The Sender accepts no liability for the content of this e-mail, or for the consequences of any actions taken on basis of the information provided. The recipient should check this e-mail and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The sender accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. This disclaimer is the property of the TTC and must not be altered or circumvented in any manner. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 04/27/2006 09:57 AM Subject Re: New z9 models Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke[EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH S390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
Thank you for your advice. I will try to install CentOS This is the second time. I have tried to install LINUX in a VM guest. First, I tried Debian. Second, I tried Marist. This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. All I want to do is get LINUX up and running and let some people see what we can do with it. It looks easy to do in the IBM magazines. Why not try SUSE or REDHAT? Both offer free trial periods with some level of support.. The packages can be downloaded for free after you register with them. http://www.novell.com/products/linuxenterpriseserver/eval.html https://www.redhat.com/rhel/details/eval/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
My hardware clock is set to UTC (USA/Eastern). Each Linux image itself maintains the correct time across a time change, it was only the rmfpms reporting process that is not effected unless restarted. Maybe I'm not explaining that right, but when I go to the Performance Toolkit and go to say the Linux Performance Data Selection screen, the date reported here will either be Interval 11:39:00-11:42:00, on 2006/04/27 or Interval 10:39:00-10:42:00, on 2006/04/27 depending on whether or not that particular Linux image's rmfpms process was restarted or not. It's really not a big deal, I could just cron a restart of the process for each time change, I was just looking for another option. Mark Wiggins -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Fargusson.Alan Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:23 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change The way you put this makes me think you set your hardware clock to local = time. This is the wrong approach with Linux (and z/OS actually). If you set your hardware clock to GMT or UTC then use the correct = timezone setting the adjustment for daylight savings time is automatic. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Wiggins, Mark Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change When we set the clocks ahead a couple of weeks ago, we noticed that each Linux image using rmfpms to report to the Performance Toolkit was reporting the wrong time. Restarting the process in Linux resolved the problem, but we'd rather not have to restart these processes on all of our images every time the time changes. Is there a way to get around this? =20 Mark Wiggins University of Connecticut Operating Systems Programmer 860-486-2792 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or = visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Hannes: Actually, z9-109 was announced July 2006 so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 10:42 EST, James Melin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Calendars are not normally used except to the extent IBMers cut up the month names into individual letters and then send them through an oscillating fan. This provides one half of the name. The other half is more, shall we say, intuitive in nature. There are entrails and coffee grounds to be examined, comets to be charted, and incense to be burned. The results of these New Age elements are combined with an Old World, but widely recognized, component: Tana leaves. The following morning, locust shells are found in the shape of the letters and numbers that comprise the name. Change in VP marketing. Please. That's the silliest thing I have heard in a long time -- Chuckie -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
First, I tried Debian. What problems did you have with Debian? This proof of concept is talking me a long time! A new release of Z/OS or Z/VM might be easier. The networking problem you described will occur with any Linux distribution you try. You have to work with your networking people to get the right routing set up for *any* of the distributions to work. Linux relies much more heavily on network setup than z/OS or z/VM does -- and in the z/VM environment, you're setting up network segments, not just hosts, so a lot of the stuff that gets done out in the boxes in your corporate network becomes visible to you -- you get to be network dude as well as systems dude. All I want to do is get LINUX up and running and let some people see what we can do with it. It looks easy to do in the IBM magazines. It is. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 11:47 AST, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My hardware clock is set to UTC (USA/Eastern). Which? UTC is not USA/Eastern. UTC is GMT. The h/w clock should be set to UTC/GMT+0. Use timezones in the operating systems to get the correct local time. Not doing this causes many apps (e.g. e-mail) to send the wrong timestamps as they try to convert from local time to GMT and vice versa. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Don't you just hate when you correct something in writing and induce another error? Actually, z9-109 was announced July *2006* so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim meant 2005. Bob Richards VP, Enterprise Technologist Enterprise Technology Infrastructure SunTrust Banks, Inc. (404) 575-2798 Seeing beyond money (sm) -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject:Re: New z9 models Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Hannes: Actually, z9-109 was announced July 2006 so that name did not last even 1 year! Jim LEGAL DISCLAIMER The information transmitted is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of or taking action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email in error please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Seeing Beyond Money is a service mark of SunTrust Banks, Inc. [ST:XCL] -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I was thinking a better naming nomenclature would have been z9 First Class and z9 Business Class. Then we could have all waited for the z9 Coach Class. Oh well, Scott L. Sun Microsystems -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:42 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 04/27/2006 09:57 AM Subject Re: New z9 models Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke[EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH S390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Install question
Since the Marist distro is so out-of-date, why is it still up and downloadable without large warnings to get a more modern level? You'd have to ask Marist, but my guesses are: 1) Hysterical Raisins. Some people get off on retro-computing (this from a person that runs TOPS20 on an emulated KS20 under VMWare on this same Windows box just to run a *proper* version of Emacs for writing stuff). 2) Marist is out of round-tuits for updating obsolete web pages. Mark Post may have a similar lack, or he's finally decided to Get a Life(tm). 3) Inertia, leading to entropy. It'll be the death of the universe at some point. -- db -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Dumping a LIN-z System
It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process. You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on LINTEL is not available on LIN-z. True? It seems that if I don't want to have a dump disk on every LIN-z system then I need to do the VMDUMP. Could I have a pool of dump disks and link to one when I need it? Would a SLES 9 dump disk dump a SLES 8 system? How about a RedHat system? Thanks for the help. tom - - - - - - - - - - - - Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more. _/) Tom Shilson ~Unix Team / IT Server Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? Betsie -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ledbetter, Scott E Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I was thinking a better naming nomenclature would have been z9 First Class and z9 Business Class. Then we could have all waited for the z9 Coach Class. Oh well, Scott L. Sun Microsystems -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Melin Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:42 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: New z9 models I always thought the IBM machine labeling closely coinceded with a change in VP of marketing. Or is it something like how they determine when Easter is? Hannes Reinecke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 04/27/2006 09:57 AM Subject Re: New z9 models Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Jim Elliott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9bc/ http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/z/z9ec/ And for those of us who are old enough to remember, this does not derive from BC Mode (S/360) or EC Mode (S/370)! IBM System z9 EC Enterprise Class (formerly IBM System z9 109) IBM System z9 BC Business Class Ah, two years have already passed. Time for the biennial IBM machine renumbering. Sigh. Hannes -- Dr. Hannes Reinecke[EMAIL PROTECTED] SuSE Linux Products GmbH S390 zSeries Maxfeldstraße 5 +49 911 74053 688 90409 Nürnberg http://www.suse.de -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
On Apr 27, 2006, at 9:52 AM, Bernard Wu wrote: Hi Listserv, Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. I have lost data and experienced severe disk corruption on LVM with heavy load using reiserfs. I use ext3 now. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
I thought there were some data corruption problems with Reiser on s390. Is my impression mistaken? That's what I meant by fail. You have to drive it pretty hard to generate the problem though -- it's some kind of race condition in the journal code that only appears at very high load (formatting a large multivolume LV will trip it about 3 times out of 10). If you don't exceed the threshold, or have lots of small files, you may choose to accept the possibility of failure vs the performance improvement of reiser for lots of small files. If I don't know what the filesystem is going to be used for or what the performance characteristics of the apps are, then ext3 is my default (and is the default for Debian and (I think) RH). I will create reiserfs filesystems for applications that create a zillion small files (like Usenet news spool). That's also the beauty of EVMS. It does a very nice job of letting you pick the right tool for the job AND still have a nice storage management interface at the same time. I really regret that it didn't become the standard -- LVM is OK, but its management tools suck. EVMS is a lot more sophisticated from a manageability standpoint, and I suppose I can be happy that EVMS can tell LVM what to do. snip Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. /snip -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Does that mean that the z9BC is a 6 Hit Die Aberration? Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
OT: RE: New z9 models
Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
David Boyes wrote In a earlier life I had implemented Reiserfs for a series large (200Gb ) samba filesystems. We experienced significant problems at the peak access times (9am and 4pm) after many months of hair pulling we found the culprit. The last referenced field was being updated and locked, with the lock being held much longer than expected. There is an option to turn off updating the last referenced field but I can't find my notes from 3 years ago.. When this was resolved we acheived up to very reasonable response time with hundreds of concurrent users. Now to find that setting Phil Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Install EVMS and use evmsn in place of the YaST storage gui. Then you get a nice front end for both, and a whole lot more. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
Mount options NOATIME and NODIRATIME But I don't see those on the current Reiser doc pages. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] What file system type to use for LVM ? David Boyes wrote In a earlier life I had implemented Reiserfs for a series large (200Gb ) samba filesystems. We experienced significant problems at the peak access times (9am and 4pm) after many months of hair pulling we found the culprit. The last referenced field was being updated and locked, with the lock being held much longer than expected. There is an option to turn off updating the last referenced field but I can't find my notes from 3 years ago.. When this was resolved we acheived up to very reasonable response time with hundreds of concurrent users. Now to find that setting Phil Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Install EVMS and use evmsn in place of the YaST storage gui. Then you get a nice front end for both, and a whole lot more. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
Alright, when I go to YaST - Clock and Time Zone Configuration, I see Hardware clock set to UTC, I see Region = USA and Time Zone = Eastern. Are we talking about a different hardware clock here? -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:27 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 11:47 AST, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My hardware clock is set to UTC (USA/Eastern). Which? UTC is not USA/Eastern. UTC is GMT. The h/w clock should be set to UTC/GMT+0. Use timezones in the operating systems to get the correct local time. Not doing this causes many apps (e.g. e-mail) to send the wrong timestamps as they try to convert from local time to GMT and vice versa. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
Hall, Ken (GTI) wrote: Mount options NOATIME and NODIRATIME But I don't see those on the current Reiser doc pages. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] What file system type to use for LVM ? David Boyes wrote In a earlier life I had implemented Reiserfs for a series large (200Gb ) samba filesystems. We experienced significant problems at the peak access times (9am and 4pm) after many months of hair pulling we found the culprit. The last referenced field was being updated and locked, with the lock being held much longer than expected. There is an option to turn off updating the last referenced field but I can't find my notes from 3 years ago.. When this was resolved we acheived up to very reasonable response time with hundreds of concurrent users. Now to find that setting Phil Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Install EVMS and use evmsn in place of the YaST storage gui. Then you get a nice front end for both, and a whole lot more. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Thanks Kennoatime is on the general Mount -o command... I also don't see nodiratime -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
200Gb is large?...we have a VSAM index file here that just points to records within a VSAM ESDS...the index is over 500Gb g. The keys themselves are from 10 to 30 bytes each (depending on the type). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Ken (GTI) Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:42 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What file system type to use for LVM ? Mount options NOATIME and NODIRATIME But I don't see those on the current Reiser doc pages. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] What file system type to use for LVM ? David Boyes wrote In a earlier life I had implemented Reiserfs for a series large (200Gb ) samba filesystems. We experienced significant problems at the peak access times (9am and 4pm) after many months of hair pulling we found the culprit. The last referenced field was being updated and locked, with the lock being held much longer than expected. There is an option to turn off updating the last referenced field but I can't find my notes from 3 years ago.. When this was resolved we acheived up to very reasonable response time with hundreds of concurrent users. Now to find that setting Phil Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Install EVMS and use evmsn in place of the YaST storage gui. Then you get a nice front end for both, and a whole lot more. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Adam Thornton wrote: On Apr 27, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan Altmark wrote: Actual naming is very complex. Multi-colored wheels with spinners, 20 4-sided dice, and 4 20-sided dice are involved. (I think the 20-sided dice explain why certain letters never appear in product names.) Does that mean that the z9BC is a 6 Hit Die Aberration? No. Mainframes start at level one with 3d10 hit points per processor. Adam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 sleekfreak pirate broadcast http://sleekfreak.ath.cx:81/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
Evans, Kevin R wrote: 200Gb is large?...we have a VSAM index file here that just points to records within a VSAM ESDS...the index is over 500Gb g. The keys themselves are from 10 to 30 bytes each (depending on the type). K -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hall, Ken (GTI) Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:42 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: What file system type to use for LVM ? Mount options NOATIME and NODIRATIME But I don't see those on the current Reiser doc pages. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Phil Tully Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:28 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] What file system type to use for LVM ? David Boyes wrote In a earlier life I had implemented Reiserfs for a series large (200Gb ) samba filesystems. We experienced significant problems at the peak access times (9am and 4pm) after many months of hair pulling we found the culprit. The last referenced field was being updated and locked, with the lock being held much longer than expected. There is an option to turn off updating the last referenced field but I can't find my notes from 3 years ago.. When this was resolved we acheived up to very reasonable response time with hundreds of concurrent users. Now to find that setting Phil Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Reiserfs is more popular, because it is the default in SuSE. We've observed a fair number of cases where reiserfs fails at very high I/O rates, so we tend to use ext3 in places where we know it's going to get beaten hard. reiserfs performs slightly better than ext3 on filesystems that will have a lot of small files (that's its design point anyway) so you may need to mix and match. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. Install EVMS and use evmsn in place of the YaST storage gui. Then you get a nice front end for both, and a whole lot more. If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. Click here for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. http://www.ml.com/email_terms/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 Well to 200gb isn't small, and each samba server was managing multiple 200gb filesystems. So we all define lg and sm differently. Phil -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
NetBackup 64bit client
Does anyone know if there is a NetBackup client available that is compiled 64bit? It seems that they only have versions compiled against 31bit shared libs. I'm also going to open a ticket with Symantec, but if anyone knows off the top of their head I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Sam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/27/2006 01:17 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
will they be like the z9-C47's. Frank Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] te.fl.us To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: New z9 models 04/27/2006 03:28 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/27/2006 01:17 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
On 4/27/06, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, when I go to YaST - Clock and Time Zone Configuration, I see Hardware clock set to UTC, I see Region = USA and Time Zone = Eastern. Are we talking about a different hardware clock here? That's the way to do it (and I am not sure this got fixed, but previously when you set it not to UTC you got a random offset ;-). Linux gets the hardware clock from its virtual TOD, and normally that's identical to the LPAR TOD, which is normally equal to the hardware TOD. They're all at UTC, which is good. CP uses the timezone to show local time in various CP things, and CMS indirectly also uses the CP local time for its stuff. This does not influence Linux in any way. Applications in Linux use (through the glibc runtime library) the /etc/localtime definitions. These definitions define the offset between local time and UTC, as well as the cut-over time for DST. Many applications in Linux don't really need to care about whether time is jumping backwards, so they will simply convert the Linux system time (UTC) to local time with whatever the current offset is. Things that do care (e.g. to measure delays) will measure in system time to assure they have a time that is incremented consistently. Things that care a lot (e.g. file systems) will record the system time as well as the offset or time zone. This is what I got when I was creating a new file every second: linux10:~ # ls -l --time-style=full-iso file* 30 2004-10-31 02:59:57.0 +0200 file60.tmp 30 2004-10-31 02:59:58.0 +0200 file61.tmp 30 2004-10-31 02:59:59.0 +0200 file62.tmp 29 2004-10-31 02:00:00.0 +0100 file63.tmp 29 2004-10-31 02:00:01.0 +0100 file64.tmp 29 2004-10-31 02:00:02.0 +0100 file65.tmp Now as far as I recall the rmfpms gatherer is keeping the archive in files that are named after the local time, so you'll probably lose your data in 6 months. Since it's in the middle of the night, you may not care too much about it. Rob -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc http://velocitysoftware.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: What file system type to use for LVM ?
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Bernard Wu wrote: Just trying to gauge which is the more popular filesystem type to use for logical volumes, reiserfs or ext3 and why. Seems like reiserfs will allow resizing through the YaST GUI, whilst ext3 filesystems forces CLI interaction. I've been happy with xfs, online expansion of the filesystem is stable and works fine. No complaints on the performance, but then there isn't a whole lot of I/O going on with my guests. Bill Carlson -- Systems Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Anything is possible, HCIS | given time and money. University of Iowa Hospitals and Clinics | Opinions are mine, not my employer's. | -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
On Thursday, 04/27/2006 at 11:16 ZE2, Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/27/06, Wiggins, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alright, when I go to YaST - Clock and Time Zone Configuration, I see Hardware clock set to UTC, I see Region = USA and Time Zone = Eastern. Are we talking about a different hardware clock here? That's the way to do it (and I am not sure this got fixed, but previously when you set it not to UTC you got a random offset ;-). Linux gets the hardware clock from its virtual TOD, and normally that's identical to the LPAR TOD, which is normally equal to the hardware TOD. They're all at UTC, which is good. But it's important to remember that the TOD doesn't have an intrinsic timezone. Linux has been told to *assume* the TOD is set to UTC, and since a virtual TOD is set from the LPAR TOD, the machine must be set to UTC. Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NetBackup 64bit client
It's crazier than that. You just get a tar file and run their './install' You have to reply that you are SLES 2.4 for both SLES8 and SLES9. And you have to replay you are RedHat 2.4 to install on SuSE SLES9 on intel. My wording is probably not quite right but- In other words there are only 2 choices- one for RedHat 2.4 and one for SuSE 2.4 and I'm not sure what you really get but it does seems to function on SLES8 and SLES9. I have not received any answer yet if they support SLES10. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kielek, Samuel Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:56 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: NetBackup 64bit client Does anyone know if there is a NetBackup client available that is compiled 64bit? It seems that they only have versions compiled against 31bit shared libs. I'm also going to open a ticket with Symantec, but if anyone knows off the top of their head I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Sam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 * This communication, including attachments, is for the exclusive use of addressee and may contain proprietary, confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, disclosure, dissemination or distribution is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, delete this communication and destroy all copies. * -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Dumping a LIN-z System
On 4/27/06, Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process. You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on LINTEL is not available on LIN-z. True? You're right that one dump disk per server does not scale, and picking one from a pool is not trivial (well, a pool of 1 could do). But you would be better off with VMDUMP instead. If the kernel crashes the CP READ wil make evidence disappear before you're there to take the dump. My understanding is that the kernel does a halt in case of bad damage, in that case vmhalt=VMDUMP 0:ALL would do the trick. Have a look at the Using the dump tools book which describes the process to read in the dump in Linux (in the Linux that caused the dump, or at least one with exactly the same level of kernel). -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc http://velocitysoftware.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: New z9 models
Yes, except the C-47s will be available only in Army Drab.but both models will have the same advanced rotatory processors.;-) DJ Frank Gowdey/Admin/Avery/MCS wrote: will they be like the z9-C47's. Frank Tim Hare [EMAIL PROTECTED] te.fl.us To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: New z9 models 04/27/2006 03:28 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU I think we'll see z9-DC3, and they'll be based in older out-of-the-way data centers, held together with baling wire and hope, but delivering the goods all over the place and sometimes under the radar. Tim Hare Senior Systems Programmer Florida Department of Transportation (850) 414-4209 Jon Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 04/27/2006 01:17 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: New z9 models Somebody let me know when they get around to cargo class. Jon -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:07 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: OT: RE: New z9 models Would we get meals with the z9-FC and BC machines? No, the machine's just a little bit wider, and the covers recline 3 more inches. You still don't get a blanket, and there's still only peanuts. 8-) -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Dumping a LIN-z System
Thank you! We have decided to go with VMDUMP rather than disk-based dumps. I will try making vmhalt=VMDUMP. The Dump Tools book seems to be for the October 2005 stream, but I read it anyway. It did help. Thanks again! tom - - - - - - - - - - - - Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more. _/) Tom Shilson ~Unix Team / IT Server Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com Fax: 651-736-7689 Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] software.com To Sent by: Linux on LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU 390 Port cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU Subject Re: Dumping a LIN-z System 04/27/2006 05:54 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] IST.EDU On 4/27/06, Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It looks to me that taking a dump of a LIN-z system is a manual process. You either manually IPL a disk, a tape, or you do the VMDUMP command. The automatic dumping after an oops or kernel panic that is available on LINTEL is not available on LIN-z. True? You're right that one dump disk per server does not scale, and picking one from a pool is not trivial (well, a pool of 1 could do). But you would be better off with VMDUMP instead. If the kernel crashes the CP READ wil make evidence disappear before you're there to take the dump. My understanding is that the kernel does a halt in case of bad damage, in that case vmhalt=VMDUMP 0:ALL would do the trick. Have a look at the Using the dump tools book which describes the process to read in the dump in Linux (in the Linux that caused the dump, or at least one with exactly the same level of kernel). -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc http://velocitysoftware.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Dumping a LIN-z System
On 4/28/06, Tom Shilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have decided to go with VMDUMP rather than disk-based dumps. I will try making vmhalt=VMDUMP. The Dump Tools book seems to be for the October 2005 stream, but I read it anyway. It did help. Thanks again! Be aware that the default does not include shared segments (in case you have kernel in NSS or use DCSS). And getting the double quotes in zipl.conf may take some experiments. May you never find out whether this works :-) -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc http://velocitysoftware.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Problem with RMFPMS and the recent time change
On 4/28/06, Alan Altmark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But it's important to remember that the TOD doesn't have an intrinsic timezone. Linux has been told to *assume* the TOD is set to UTC, and since a virtual TOD is set from the LPAR TOD, the machine must be set to UTC. Note that the Linux system clock itself runs at UTC. The thing with the hardware clock UTC is because of Windows in dual-boot configurations. Because Windows programs the RTC in local time, the Linux kernel and hwclock have some ugly tricks to allow Linux to pick up the local time from the hardware clock (as set by Windows) and compute UTC out of that again (just like CP does when you change the clock at IPL). The other amusing difference is that Linux uses the system clock now and then to correct the drift of the cheap RTC chip, where Windows uses that cheap drifting RTC clock to correct for the cases where its system clock failed to tick properly :-) And now we have this clear, should we run UTC or GMT ? -- Rob van der Heij Velocity Software, Inc http://velocitysoftware.com/ -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: Installing THE 3.2
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006, Peter Webb, Toronto Transit Commission wrote: ... following characters on the command line: 63;1;2;6;7;8;9;11;14c63;1;2;6;7;8;9;11;14c. I've seen this kind of garbage with other curses based apps. I fear that there's something wrong with the 3.1 and 3.2 builds. Could be a mis-match in the run-time (especially for curses) and the executable in the package (the libs it was built against). Personally, I recommend rebuilding apps like THE (and Regina). You're welcome to my build logic (two forms) at http://pb.casita.net/pub/the/the-3.2.mak http://pb.casita.net/pub/regina/regina-3.3.mak -or- http://pb.casita.net/pub/cscratch/the.mk http://pb.casita.net/pub/cscratch/regina.mk The former pair are largely stand-alone (except that THE needs a REXX interpreter, for which Regina does nicely) and are non-intrusive, not comingled with the op sys. The latter pair install THE and Regina into their canonical place but require the CSCRATCH build stuff (at least makefile and _generic.mk) from the same directory. -- R; -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
Re: NetBackup 64bit client
I had to install these SuSE packages to get it to work on 64bit sles9. compat-2004.7.1-1.2 compat-32bit-9-200407011411 Marcy Cortes This message may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose, or take any action based on this message or any information herein. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kielek, Samuel Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 11:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [LINUX-390] NetBackup 64bit client Does anyone know if there is a NetBackup client available that is compiled 64bit? It seems that they only have versions compiled against 31bit shared libs. I'm also going to open a ticket with Symantec, but if anyone knows off the top of their head I'd appreciate the info. Thanks, Sam -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: INFO LINUX-390 or visit http://www.marist.edu/htbin/wlvindex?LINUX-390
