MD: Sony R55CIF
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === Howdy all, Anyone actually have or used a Sony R55CIF (that one they sell at = best buy with the mp3 link) I've seen very little info on this and the = retards that work at best buy are about as bright as the 'q' key on my = keyboard. anyway i was just interested in it, if ya have any info i = wouldn't mind knowing about it. Thanks === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD - MD dubbing?
If you read the MDCP FAQ... I think degradation, especially on modern equipments, don't start occuring until at least the 5th generation. I've done cassette--MD--MD (all analog connections), and the last generation sounds fine. Just 1-2 generations between copies should go unnoticed even with analog connections. If I understand SCMS correctly, prerecorded MD -- optical cable -- blank MD should be all right. First generation, Norio Ohga, the (ex) Sony President who pushed for MD's creation, said openly in publications that MD has sound degradations for political reasons (or CD-R/RW music would've come out much earlier). But in your situation, it should be almost indistinguishable. Leon I've noticed HMV.com selling some of their selection MiniDisc format, which leads to an interesting question (either that or it just shows that I don't RTFM enough). If I have an MD deck with a digital out and try record to my MZ-R50, I know I can't record digitally from an MD that is a copy of a CD. Can I record from a store-bought MD to a blank MD without SCMS getting in my way? Will there be a significant amount of degradation? What I mean by degradation is... To record from CD - MD, I know that it takes uncompressed data from the CD, sends it to the down the wire in digital form, then the recorder compresses it with ATRAC, and stores it. To record from MD - MD, it uncompresses the ATRAC, sends it down the wire in digital form, then recompresses it when it hits the recorder. I know that this would cause degradation, but does anyone know if this would cause unacceptable degradation in the sound quality? Is it something that someone would even notice? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Xitel, Linux, and MiniDisc
On Wed, 12 Apr 2000, Erik Arneson wrote: Hi, On 12 Apr 00, Michael Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want a digital copy of your MP3s, unfortunately, you've got to bail out to Win98. That's about the only reason I boot Windows anymore... Well drat, that sure isn't the news I was hoping to hear. So is there a good solution to digital copying under Linux right now? It seems that the only one that works is the Turtle Beach... (thanks Andrew Veliath!) please tell me in case you know about any other (by personal replies or alike). Another route will be to hack a non digital out Soundcard (I have seen projects for doing so with Soundblaster 16, 64AWE, etc.. that has support under linux and add a TOSlink transmitter. As long as you use aumix to set the PCM and Volume controls to 100%, it will work, as the driver doesn't know anything about the digital out. Only thing is you won't have digital-in. regards, *---(*)---**-- Francisco J. Montilla System Network administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] irc: pukkaSevilleSpain INSFLUG (LiNUX) Coordinator: www.insflug.org - ftp.insflug.org - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
G'day The other day, someone mentioned using mains cable as speaker cable, because its so damn cheap. Is anyone using this setup? I've heard things about the quality of interconnects between amp and CD/MD/other stuff making a difference to sound quality, and simliar things about speaker wire, and 99.9% oxygen free copper wire or some crap. There must be some truth in it, if people are willing to pay hundreds and hundreds of $ for a few metres of speaker wire.. Anyway, does anyone know if there'd be an appreciable difference between reasonably cheap but "thick" speaker wire from an audio shop and mains cable from a hardware shop? thanks, nick __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: For sale: Sony MDS-501 on Ebay
I need to get rid of one pretty beat up looking Sony MDS-501. I bought it broken, got it working once by increasing laser power a tiny bit. It worked for a week. Then I stored it for 6+ months. When I tried an MD in it again, I got "Disc Error". So AGAIN I had to increase laser power again just a little bit to get it working again. I'm sure it is not reliable, but surely there must be an MD hacker out there that wants to play with it? http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=307506128 -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
Nick, I've heard things about the quality of interconnects between amp and CD/MD/other stuff making a difference to sound quality, and simliar things about speaker wire, and 99.9% oxygen free copper wire or some crap. There must be some truth in it, if people are willing to pay hundreds and hundreds of $ for a few metres of speaker wire.. Sorry, but how much people are willing to spend on a thing is not a reliable guide to its utility or quality, it's more related to the quality of the sales pitch... Paying lots of money for interconnects is the closest you're going to get to "money for old rope". You'll get far more benefit spending the money on some new music. simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
My nan used to use mains cable for an FM radio aerial. It worked really well until our cousin visited and saw a cable with no plug on it, so promptly put one on it and plugged it in BANG!!! No more HiFi. If you want to use mains cable as speaker cable can I suggest you label it clearly? :o) Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: nick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:14 AM Subject: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable G'day The other day, someone mentioned using mains cable as speaker cable, because its so damn cheap. Is anyone using this setup? I've heard things about the quality of interconnects between amp and CD/MD/other stuff making a difference to sound quality, and simliar things about speaker wire, and 99.9% oxygen free copper wire or some crap. There must be some truth in it, if people are willing to pay hundreds and hundreds of $ for a few metres of speaker wire.. Anyway, does anyone know if there'd be an appreciable difference between reasonably cheap but "thick" speaker wire from an audio shop and mains cable from a hardware shop? thanks, nick __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD - MD dubbing?
From: Dave Kimmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 6:31 AM Subject: MD: MD - MD dubbing? I've noticed HMV.com selling some of their selection MiniDisc format, which leads to an interesting question (either that or it just shows that I don't RTFM enough). If I have an MD deck with a digital out and try record to my MZ-R50, I know I can't record digitally from an MD that is a copy of a CD. Can I record from a store-bought MD to a blank MD without SCMS getting in my way? Yes you can. SCMS lets you make a digital copy of an original, but not a copy of that copy. Your original in this case is the MD you bought in HMV, so it will be quite happy with you copying it. Will there be a significant amount of degradation? Define significant. There will be degredation, but how much and how noticeable depends how sensitive your ears are and on what is in the music! Some types of sound degrade more quickly than others but I would be surprised if you notice it. It may even be less degradation than when you record CDs. I know that this would cause degradation, but does anyone know if this would cause unacceptable degradation in the sound quality? Again, define unacceptable. I think it's fine, some people wont even notice, others will treat it like a criminal act if they can't hear an ant fart 200 miles away over the top of a heavy metal band. Is it something that someone would even notice? Possibly, it depends on the music. Having noticed it, would it really bother you? I've noticed very small differences between original CDs and copies done digitally on the JB930, but it doesn't bother me because unless I really listen for it I wouldn't have even noticed. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
Shawn wrote: As you may know from physics class, electronics travel along the outside diameter of each of the copper strands. As a result, finer copper strands means more strands fit into a given wire gauge diameter. That equals greater electron flow. The depth to which an AC current penetrates a conductor is inversely proportional to the frequency (called the skin effect). The skin depth at 20 KHz in copper is ~ 1mm, so it has a minute effect. Note that if the fine strands are close to each other, their magnetic fields will interact to some extent, which reduces any skin effect reducing advantage. remember seeing a magazine article quite some time ago where someone tested cheap 18-gauge mains cable against high-quality, oxygen free speaker cable. They used very expensive test equipment, and the result was that the difference was very miniscule and probably inaudible. I can't remember which magazine Douglas Self wrote an article about this in Electronics World a couple of years ago. He concluded that common multistranded 5A mains flex made an excellent speaker cable. simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
I wrote: Douglas Self wrote an article about this in Electronics World a couple of years ago. I have located the article in Electronics World Oct 1997. I can scan it if anyone emails me privately. simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day The other day, someone mentioned using mains cable as speaker cable, because its so damn cheap. Is anyone using this setup? I've heard things about the quality of interconnects between amp and CD/MD/other stuff making a difference to sound quality, and simliar things about speaker wire, and 99.9% oxygen free copper wire or some crap. There must be some truth in it, if people are willing to pay hundreds and hundreds of $ for a few metres of speaker wire.. Anyway, does anyone know if there'd be an appreciable difference between reasonably cheap but "thick" speaker wire from an audio shop and mains cable from a hardware shop? thanks, nick Me and about any other sensible person that I know. Speaker-cable is based upon the fairytale that is called: 'People believe'. And one other `Quality costs money`. Ie, most people don't know anything about cable materials. So there are some manufacturers that play with that. Take standard mains cable and market it as special speaker wire. One thing is for sure here, a 2.5 mm2 mains cable will give 'better' sound than a 1.0 mm2 speaker cable (which cost probably the same as the 2.5mm2 mains). Cheers, Ralph - needing some oxygen. -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Fw: Mains cable as speaker cable
Anyone have opinions on cables between audio components (RCA),. There seems to be a huge market for 'premium' cables between audio components, with prices running to very high levels. Not being knowledgeable in this area I'd be interested in people's opinions. Pete - Original Message - From: Ralph Smeets [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:07 PM Subject: Re: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day The other day, someone mentioned using mains cable as speaker cable, because its so damn cheap. Is anyone using this setup? I've heard things about the quality of interconnects between amp and CD/MD/other stuff making a difference to sound quality, and simliar things about speaker wire, and 99.9% oxygen free copper wire or some crap. There must be some truth in it, if people are willing to pay hundreds and hundreds of $ for a few metres of speaker wire.. Anyway, does anyone know if there'd be an appreciable difference between reasonably cheap but "thick" speaker wire from an audio shop and mains cable from a hardware shop? thanks, nick Me and about any other sensible person that I know. Speaker-cable is based upon the fairytale that is called: 'People believe'. And one other `Quality costs money`. Ie, most people don't know anything about cable materials. So there are some manufacturers that play with that. Take standard mains cable and market it as special speaker wire. One thing is for sure here, a 2.5 mm2 mains cable will give 'better' sound than a 1.0 mm2 speaker cable (which cost probably the same as the 2.5mm2 mains). Cheers, Ralph - needing some oxygen. amulation.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
MD: Fw: Mains cable as speaker cable For my $.02 I changed from box issue interconnects to low/mid price custom cables. The old guy who sold them to me said the improvements (which I am pretty sure I hear) were to do with shielding in the cable from other cables, the quality of the connection from the wire to the plug and the quality of the plug (for connection to the deck). Apart from that I got colour coded so it helps me understand what cable goes where Alex - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: CD/MD mechanisms - a possible OEM solution
Hi everyone! As judging from my observations with new cars at the Melbourne Motor Show, the motoring columns in the daily press, write-ups in motoring magazines and reports on this list; it is becoming a common practice for vehicle builders to specify a slot-in single-disc CD player and radio combination as the stndard car audio option in a lot of vehicles. Some manufacturers like GM, Ford, Toyota and Saab are offering single-CD/cassette units in a form similar to the double-DIN CD-cassette units now available on the market. These would allow the use of a cassette adaptor if you want to play your MiniDisc walkman through the car sound system. But most manufacturers such as Honda, VW, Porsche, Alfa Romeo, Daewoo and Hyundai are offering single-disc "slot-in" CD players which have no cassette facility. A few of them who use Philips / VDO-Dayton to supply the system, such as Hyundai, Daewoo and Alfa Romeo, have head-units identical to what is or was offered by this company in the aftermarket. This means that you can connect the MD walkman to the unit's AUX sockets and select the AUX input in order to hear it through the car sound system. Other systems often don't come with any external-source connectivity options or may come with a connectivity option for a dealer-fit CD changer (in the case of VW for example). OEMs and vehicle builders could realise that MiniDisc does exist and could look towards integrating it into their own vehicles. This reality comes about due to the popularity of "MD-Bundles" and the cost of MD equipment plummeting into affordable levels even though it is facing the threat of being usurped by the MP3-based solid-state audio players. As well, MD is available in stereo systems that are close to the bottom of the price range where you expect to buy a decent stereo system that will last. This could be done by integrating JVC's or Panasonic's single-slot CD/MiniDisc solution into their designs. If JVC improved the eject action on their mechanism in order to eject the MiniDisc a lot further than it does in the current implementation (bring out the disc by an inch at least), the mechanism can be used in curve-front dashboards like that found in the VW New Beetle. WIth regards, Simon Mackay - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Fw: Mains cable as speaker cable
Peter Brown wrote: Anyone have opinions on cables between audio components (RCA),. There seems to be a huge market for 'premium' cables between audio components, with prices running to very high levels. Not being knowledgeable in this area I'd be interested in people's opinions. Speaker cables will have far more audible effects than interconnects. Differences in speaker cables may JUST be audible. simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
I don't think it has ever been scientifically proven that any cable is better than another... The main thing is that if you think it has made an improvement then that's all that matters... Psychologically, the aim has been achieved. 25 years or so, back in the UK, the hi-fi 'golden ears' brigade discovered that solid core copper mains wiring that electricians use to wire up buildings with, was the 'perfect' speaker wire - many of them threw away their expensive speaker cables and replaced it with solid core mains cable... I'm not sure if this is still popular - I got pretty much sick and tired of the whole thing, along with green dye for the edges of CD's I know some hi-fi nuts that have gold plated mains plugs on their valve amps etc FWIW, I have some quite nice heavy duty multi-stranded copper speaker cables and I love the look of them - and I BELIEVE they make the sound better...:-) GB - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Sharp 702mk -- 12vdc adapter for car use?
Hey everyone, Is there an aftermarket adapter that will supply the 5 volts needed by my Sharp 702 so I can plug it up in the car? I don't care so much about charging as I do continuous music. :) I'm sure I could get away with 4.5 volts (like another poster whose wall wart went out) but I'd like to know if there's any 5 volt adapters for autos. Cheers, ~Zach - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No Subject
Ed wrote: There are large advantages of MD over cassette - its editing for one. But for now I *still* use cassettes for "air checks" of my radio show Ed - use the MD, you can re-record it *one million* times, forget degradation, and it is much easier to dump unwanted junk (the editing advantage you mentioned) Plus you use far less of the earth's resources to run your MD recorder (less moving parts too) Believe me, you can record 74 minutes of music off just about any radio station and by the time you delete all the crap you don't want to hear you'll still have probably 60 minutes of free space. Hit record again and - from experience - it will take you three days to fill the thing up with a good collection of music. Sure, this involves a lot of work - track marks, selections and deletions but try doing that with a cassette. 1) cost This is both as a single unit (reasonable "D90" tapes are typically less than $1) But they wear out, fade and break. The MD is robust. Believe me. and as the second item 2) Time length - Get 90min on a MD and Im there - or get the cost per min down to the same (aka like $0.75 per 60min MD). Also - for recording stuff - the 60min / 90min format works out a bit better You really make no point here. The 74 minute time length was obviously designed to meet the standards of the CD. Maybe you are thinking in terms that you must fill every minute on the disk to avoid a big blind silent gap as you would with a cassette. Not so with the MD. If the 60 minute cassette format works out good for you then why wouldn't a 74 minute MD with 14 minutes of blank space work out? 3) Ubuquity - *everyplace* has a cassette player - and anyone can play a tape that I make (not everyone has MD) That's a valid point. The only solution is to carry around an RC2MINI cord and a cassette adapter. Which I do...As for lending, heck you can just burn a copy of your MD onto one of those cheap cassette tapes and *give* it to your friend. Let him deal with the 17 minute blind silent gap. How can he complain when it's free? I think if they get MD players in the $50 range and blank MDs in the sub $1 range the format will *really* take off. I think this is the whole gist of the thing Ed - cost. People are really pushed away by the price of the recorders which, because of the total lack of prerecorded material for sale are necessary. I'm wondering if the music industry isn't behind this? They might be behind all this MP3 stuff (which I think is definitely the wave of the future as I can see it being crammed down my throat at this very moment) I guess the music industry is just like the oil industry - they can't lose. No matter what... Paul Irvine - Antioch CA 72 Spider - 79 Sprint Veloce - 82 GTV6 - Project Alfa - http://www.crl.com/~pi/project E-Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Mains cable as speaker cable
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if this is still popular - I got pretty much sick and tired of the whole thing, along with green dye for the edges of CD's I know some hi-fi nuts that have gold plated mains plugs on their valve amps etc Hmm, There is something true in those plugs. Using gold-plated plugs with gold plated outs/in, is probably best. (Best contact. Best would be copper, (copper is a better conductor than gold.), but copper can't stand oxygen!). Using nickel-plated plugs with nickel outs/in is les, but still good. (Nickel is a worst conductor than gold) Using any combination of nickel plated with gold in/outs or visa versa will introduce troubles. Especially with your PC where gold plated DIMMs give problems with cheap nickel plated DIMM slots on the main-board. How this relates to audio/md, I don't know. All I know is that you get some strange physical effects using two metals pressed together (like gold with nickel). Is it hearable? I don't know, my MD-deck cost(ed) as much as my stereo, so it's not that high quality. Cheers, Ralph - who's working to hard.. grin -- === Ralph SmeetsFunctional Verification Centre Of Competence - CMG Voice: (+33) (0)4 76 58 44 46 STMicroelectronics Fax:(+33) (0)4 76 58 40 11 5, chem de la Dhuy Mobile: (+33) (0)6 82 66 62 70 38240 MEYLAN E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] FRANCE === "For many years, mankind lived just like the animals. And then something happened that unleashed the powers of our imagination: We learned to talk." -- Stephen Hawking, later used by Pink Floyd -- === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: md - my opinion after 2 years
#1 - Everyone keeps trying to defend the sound quality while the popularity of mp3 clearly demonstrates that it's not an issue. #2 - Portability, robustness, editing capabilities and size are the main points with sound quality that I can't tell from cd, nor would I care to descern. Not to insult the audiofiles because I have my own passions and would never demean the passions of another. #3 - Copy the cd cover, reduce it to 2.5" vertical and print it out on an inkjet on photo paper. Then stick it to the inside of the md case and don't it look like the coolest thing? #4 - Price: The cost plus the fact that the format requires you to invest in a recorder as well as any players you might want. This is because the music industry for some reason decided not to support it with pre-recorded selections. Probably because the things cost so much that they knew everybody would be too cheap to buy them. Well, I use md, enjoy it and have enough recorded discs full of crap that I could probably get by for about 6 Puscarian years on my own should the bottom drop out of the whole thing. Paul Irvine - Antioch CA 72 Spider - 79 Sprint Veloce - 82 GTV6 - Project Alfa - http://www.crl.com/~pi/project E-Mail - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Guided bus or boat tours
=== The original message was multipart MIME=== === All non-text parts (attachments) have been removed === IMPORTANT NOTICE: THIS IS ALSO BEING POSTED ON THE MD-L LISTSERVICE AS WELL AS BEING CONTRIBUTED TO THE MDCP. Hi everyone! A couple of years ago, our previous State Government hosted an "open weekend" on projects that it was sponsoring as part of a PR exercise. One of the activities that was featured was the use of a chartered cruise boat which performed a tour of all of the new sites that were along the Yarra river. What was done was that, rather than having a tour guide explain the sites, they played a cassette which had pre-recorded commentary through the sound system ax the cruise boat was at the various points of interest. MiniDiscs can suit these kind of bus or boat tours. For example the itinerary can be varied at the last minute without having to fast-forward or rewind a cassette to suit. There is no need to worry about tape being "snarled up" in poorly-maintained sound systems. What you need is a MiniDisc with audio commentary for each waypoint; a MiniDisc Walkman; a power adaptor which runs the MD Walkman off the vehicle's or boat's cigar lighter or accessory socket (or a mains power adaptor in case of boats equipped with a mains-level power supply); and a cassette adaptor which slots into the vehicle's or boat's cassette player and connects to that Walkman. Nowadays, ther will be an increased likelihood that the bus or boat that you charter or use as part of the tour will come with a cassette player as part of the sound system. If you are lucky, you may even have a line-level input for connecting the MiniDisc Walkman to the vehicle's sound system. When you load or unload the passengers, it may be a good idea to always know where the MD Walkman is at all timws because these units can be easily stolen by passers-by. You could easily disconnect the unit and take it with you if you are going away from the sound system; so as to dissuade theft. With regards, Simon Mackay === MIME part removed : text/html; === - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md - my opinion after 2 years
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Paul Irvine wrote: #1 - Everyone keeps trying to defend the sound quality while the popularity of mp3 clearly demonstrates that it's not an issue. The main reason MP3 is popular is because you can download songs for free. Add to that that most people aren't audiophiles and don't have the stereo equipment to be able to discern the differences, and you have instant success for MP3. That doesn't mean that it's a good format, tho. /fnord, who uses both MD and MP3 - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Salvaging a recording made with levels set too high?
Sadly, you're 100% correct. You can always try to use Noise Reduction methods from Cooledit Pro or Soundforge, but even then, it will still sound as rough as guts. Adios, LarZ --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Eric Woudenberg Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2000 23:51 To: muggins Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:MD: Salvaging a recording made with levels set too high? Hi, "muggins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any way of salvaging a concert I recorded on minidisc where the levels are too high ? Please help !! thanks If you've got digital clipping (lots of clicks) you're pretty much out of luck, as the information needed to reconstruct what was lost it is just gone. I'm passing your note along to the MD mailing list, in case someone else has a suggestion. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Re: MD - MD dubbing?
Let me apologize first, cause it's all in Japanese. I'm not good enough in Japanese to precisely translate everything, so I'll just give a rough idea. I first saw the quotes on this page: http://page.freett.com/Tfactory/Audio/MDqual/ATRAC1.html the page itself is arguing about how blanks make a difference, etc, but anyway. The quote - "MD's got to be inferior in sound quality" - came from page 276 of the book mentioned below. The details: 1. Sony had the technology for CD-R back in 1987, but Norio Ohga came to the conclusion that CD-R would upset the record industry. Therefore MD's got to have worse sound quality than CD. 2. The man who designed the MZ-1 said that Ohga ordered the unit to be released early because of competition with DCC, even if that meant the MZ-1 wasn't a fully developed product. The book is one of those business/management type books, featuring interviews with 14 people who work at Sony. It was published in 1998. The title translates roughly to "Sony's laws" (laws as in, for instance, Murphy's laws). See the cover of the book on the publisher's website: http://skygarden.shogakukan.co.jp/skygarden/owa/sosbooks_isbn?e_id=3066460i d=416111 Norio Ohga, the (ex) Sony President who pushed for MD's creation, said openly in publications that MD has sound degradations for political reasons (or CD-R/RW music would've come out much earlier). But in your situation, it should be almost indistinguishable. Oooh, I'd love to have a reference for the article (or indeed the article!) in which he makes this statement. I've known that this aspect of MD is informally recognized by Sony as valuable, but I didn't know that Sony had made it public. Rick Norio Ohga has achieved quite a bit at Sony. However, he got really bummed late in his career because of the DVD format competition. Sony's DVD specification lost out to Toshiba's (the current one we're all using). The "Digital Dream Kids" slogan was actually the start of the post-Ohga era at Sony, the beginning of a corporate transformation. Leon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD vs. CD / Golden Ears
"Shawn R. Lin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I find it very hard to believe that the Sony's D/A converter is *so* much worse that it accounts for 100% of the obvious differences in sound quality. Certainly the DAC makes a difference! If it didn't, audio companies wouldn't bother selling external DACs. In fact, the price of a good high-end DAC is often 5-digits! The reason my Sony CDX-C90 car stereo cost so much was due to its quad 20-bit Burr-Brown DACs and several different digital filters. It costs $1200, yet it has no fancy color display or even a built-in amp. Yep, I'm very familiar with DACs (and their price ranges ;-)). I'm amazed that people pay $12,000 for a Mark Levinson DAC when that's many times the cost of my whole system! My feelings in this case, however, are that the DAC in a $250 CD player and the DAC in a $350 MD player aren't sufficiently different in quality to explain 100% of the sound quality differences in the comparison with all other components being equal. That's all I'm saying. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: md - my opinion after 2 years
Paul Irvine wrote: #1 - Everyone keeps trying to defend the sound quality while the popularity of mp3 clearly demonstrates that it's not an issue. Agreed. It is not the reason MD is not selling in huge numbers. #2 - Portability, robustness, editing capabilities and size are the main points with sound quality that I can't tell from cd, nor would I care to descern. Not to insult the audiofiles because I have my own passions and would never demean the passions of another. True. I don't think portability is that big of an issue either. I've seen lots of people carrying portable CD players in the palm of their hand and they don't seem to mind having to carry that big bulky thing. When I used to listen to my MD portable at the university, I dropped it into a pocket. Out of my way, I could hardly even feel it. Strange that most people don't mind the bulky CD player, but it's not as though they haven't heard of MD. I noticed that most people actually know that MD exists, they just don't really care I guess. #3 - Copy the cd cover, reduce it to 2.5" vertical and print it out on an inkjet on photo paper. Then stick it to the inside of the md case and don't it look like the coolest thing? Certainly! #4 - Price: The cost plus the fact that the format requires you to invest in a recorder as well as any players you might want. This is because the music industry for some reason decided not to support it with pre-recorded selections. Probably because the things cost so much that they knew everybody would be too cheap to buy them. Exactly. MD is not selling big, because there are no prerecorded selections. I can't even count the number of times people have asked me where they can find prerecorded MDs. Best Buy doesn't even have them any more. There was not much demand for prerecorded MDs anyway though, because MD equipment cost so much more than play-only CD equipment that not that many people were buying it. Those crappy little MP3 players are selling big (they are EVERYWHERE now) because people like the idea of FREE music. With software like Napster, people can get the music they want, anytime, anywhere. It's super fast with a cable modem, although many people are satisified to wait 20-30 minutes with a 33.6 modem just so they don't have to pay anything. That's why I think Sony should have jumped on MP3 integration with MD. Copying CD to MD is what many people do, but everyone I know uses CD-R instead. They feel if you're just going to do a direct copy, CD-R is easier and faster than realtime recording. However, with MP3, you have to download a track at a time. For that, MD is much more convenient, no need to close a session, and you can record the tracks one at a time. Sometimes people download stuff they've never even heard of just to see what it's like. With MD, it's easy to delete that track. I know there's a new R55 out that has a USB connector of some sort, but can it record an MP3 in FASTER than realtime? I think that's what Sony should strive for. A portable with USB that can download the MP3 from the USB port faster than realtime. If it could download as fast as those silly MP3 players, which do you think people would buy? Flash memory is pretty expensive. I haven't kept up on current prices, but assuming a 32MB is around $50-60, that's only around 32 minutes of stereo MP3. MD holds 74-80 minutes, and the MD blanks are usually $2 or so. Well, I use md, enjoy it and have enough recorded discs full of crap that I could probably get by for about 6 Puscarian years on my own should the bottom drop out of the whole thing. Same here! -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: md - my opinion after 2 years
#4 - Price: The cost plus the fact that the format requires you to invest in a recorder as well as any players you might want. This is because the music industry for some reason decided not to support it with pre-recorded selections. Probably because the things cost so much that they knew everybody would be too cheap to buy them. I just have a portable recorder - the one stop solution :-) Pre-rec MD has never had any great appeal to me - as blanks are so cheap, the pre-rec ends up costing more than the CD and a blank. Also I can't do MD-MD copies I'm screwed if I want to take some tracks from an album for a compilation. I never bought anything (other than my first couple of singles) on tape either. Interestingly enough though, my local (UK) record shops now have pre-rec MD displays that are quite a bit larger than the tape ones. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: UK - what hifi? magazine / MXD-D3
Their main "first test" (double page spread) this month is of the Sony MXD-D3 CD/MD deck, where it got the full 5 stars. What interested me is that they noticed (more) degredation when it was high-speed copying than at realtime. Can anyone comment on this? Does this happen, or is it more magazine people kidding themselves with stuff like media differences and green markers? The other thing - Richer Sounds' ad now has Traxdata 74-min MDs for 69p each (just over $1 US), a new record? :-) Anyone used these yet? - if not I'll pick some up and give them a go. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MD Drive
Hey Folks, I'm getting a new computer at work (I'm an audio engineer/Producer) and I will be doing a lot of work with MD (Yay.) I need to get a drive that will allow me to rip MD's (To And From) at more than realtime. Anyone know much about what my choices are (for Mac or PC)? Thanks a lot in advance... -=James --- James Caran e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Res: 1162 Geneva Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94112 Phone: (415)587-8243 Cell: (510)823-6367 Web Crew, http://www.hyannissound.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] having a rough day?-- http://www.hamsterdance.com having a rough day that is someone else's fault?-- http://www.dogdoo.com/ Enjoy... - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Drive
James Caran wrote: Hey Folks, I'm getting a new computer at work (I'm an audio engineer/Producer) and I will be doing a lot of work with MD (Yay.) I need to get a drive that will allow me to rip MD's (To And From) at more than realtime. Anyone know much about what my choices are (for Mac or PC)? Thanks a lot in advance... MDH-10 (external) or MDM-111 (internal) are the only ones I know of. You will need special software to do ripping, EDL sells the software but it's a lot of money. -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Promotion Mailing List...
Hi everybody.. I will not send you any other publicity for my minidisc website store... Now I just start a mailing list for my different promotion because I don't want to bother anymore people of this mailing list with all my promotions about minidisc... I don't want to spam people with my advertisement and I want that only people who really want to receive my promotion should receive it directly on their email... My mailing list will be use for one and only thing : Send promotion twice a month about minidisc price... I will give promotion code and opportunity letting you know what is in special each month... I will not give you e-mail adress to anyone, not sell it... All e-mail and user information will be confidential... If you're interested, please visit my Online Website Store : Kheops Minidisc at : http://www.kheopsglassart.com/minidisc/ and in the front page there is a listbot mailing list for you to subscribe... Thank's for all... Sorry for all my previous messages... Hope this will help. Pierre F. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Xitel, Linux, and MiniDisc
Francisco Jose Montilla wrote: It seems that the only one that works is the Turtle Beach... (thanks Andrew Veliath!) please tell me in case you know about any other (by personal replies or alike). The Hoontech Digital-NX (which I own) does digital-out under Linux (and it's cheap). Also, the ALSA project is supporting the Soundblaster Live! now, although I don't know if they've gotten the digital-out to work yet. Alexander Dietrich -- | Alexander Dietrich | Norderstedt, Germany | | e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: MZ-R37 Questions
I just bought an open box R37 with no accessories or manual and I have some questions. 1. Anyone know where I can get a copy of the manual? 2. Does it use standard AA Ni-cads or some special Sony batteries? 3. Can all functions be performed without the remote? Thanks! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Xitel, Linux, and MiniDisc
On 13 Apr 00, Alexander Dietrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Hoontech Digital-NX (which I own) does digital-out under Linux (and it's cheap). Also, the ALSA project is supporting the Soundblaster Live! now, although I don't know if they've gotten the digital-out to work yet. Wow, that price is too good to be true. Do you know of a good reliable on-line vendor that carries these cards? -- # Erik Arneson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webring Technical Yahoo! # # http://www.aarg.net/erik/ GPG Key ID: 1024D/43AD6AB8 # # "The worst wheel of a cart makes the most noise." - Ben Franklin # - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MZ-R37 Questions
1. Anyone know where I can get a copy of the manual? On the MDCP: http://www.minidisc.org/mzr37_user_manual/ 2. Does it use standard AA Ni-cads or some special Sony batteries? It comes with two rechargeable AA batteries - runs fine on alkaline AAs, so I'd have thought Ni-Cads will be ok as well. 3. Can all functions be performed without the remote? Almost certainly yes, but check through the manual to see what you're missing. You may be interested in this (from the Sony "general" page" on the MDCP): "Sony remotes generally interoperate among the various portable units. Gerald Tomyn adds: Sony sells a replacement wired remote control, the RM-MZE1. It comes in silver or blue (both see-through) and has a backlit LCD screen. This remote can be used with ANY of the following recorders/players: MZ-R30, R37, R50, R55, R90, R91, R4ST, R5ST, E25, E30, E33, E35, E44, E45, E50, E55, E70, E80, EP10, EP11, EPS11." The replacement one is quite a bit nicer than the standard remote, so if you decide to get one you won't have paid to have an old one sitting about useless :-) hth, -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Mains cable as Speaker cable
The largest improvement, especially at low frequencies, come from low resistance. Since the speaker itself is only a few ohms, series resistance added by small gauge cable and normal connectors will quickly destroy the high damping factor of modern solid-state amplifiers. The PA rig I built several years ago used 12 AWG rubber covered mains cable with 277V twist-lock power connectors. (I chose 277V since that power voltage is used only for industrial lighting and is never present elsewhere so the speakers would not get plugged into the power mains by mistake, although the woofers would have withstood this, very loudly! :-) - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-R37 Questions
On 13 Apr 00, Curtis Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought an open box R37 with no accessories or manual and I have some questions. I've got one of those, and I love it. 1. Anyone know where I can get a copy of the manual? I don't know the answer to this one. :( Sorry. 2. Does it use standard AA Ni-cads or some special Sony batteries? In the manual, it says you can use two nickel-cadmium rechargeable batteries (NC-AA), or two size AA (LR6) alkaline batteries. Mine came with the rechargeables, and they've worked just fine for me. 3. Can all functions be performed without the remote? Yep! Apparently the remote isn't very nifty, but I use it all the time. You can order extra remotes, too. -- # Erik Arneson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webring Technical Yahoo! # # http://www.aarg.net/erik/ GPG Key ID: 1024D/43AD6AB8 # # "The worst wheel of a cart makes the most noise." - Ben Franklin # - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: sound blaster live value
Does the sound blaster live value have a optical digital out? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Drive
Who makes the drives? --- James Caran e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Res: 1162 Geneva Avenue, San Francisco, CA 94112 Phone: (415)587-8243 Cell: (510)823-6367 Web Crew, http://www.hyannissound.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] having a rough day?-- http://www.hamsterdance.com having a rough day that is someone else's fault?-- http://www.dogdoo.com/ Enjoy... On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Shawn R. Lin wrote: James Caran wrote: Hey Folks, I'm getting a new computer at work (I'm an audio engineer/Producer) and I will be doing a lot of work with MD (Yay.) I need to get a drive that will allow me to rip MD's (To And From) at more than realtime. Anyone know much about what my choices are (for Mac or PC)? Thanks a lot in advance... MDH-10 (external) or MDM-111 (internal) are the only ones I know of. You will need special software to do ripping, EDL sells the software but it's a lot of money. -- Shawn Lin http://www2.cybercities.com/g/gmwbodycars/ _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MZ-R37 Questions
On 13 Apr 00, Curtis Mathews [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought an open box R37 with no accessories or manual and I have some questions. I've got one of those, and I love it. 1. Anyone know where I can get a copy of the manual? http://www.minidisc.org/mzr37_user_manual/4-5.html 3. Can all functions be performed without the remote? I just bought the remote for an MZ-R55 on ebay. they work with the 37, along with most sony remotes i've tried. I now have a spare remote for an R37 if you are interested. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Drive
From: Shawn R. Lin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 9:19 PM Subject: Re: MD: MD Drive MDH-10 (external) or MDM-111 (internal) are the only ones I know of. You will need special software to do ripping, EDL sells the software but it's a lot of money. If anyone knows where to get these in the UK I'd like to know. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Relay record?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Simon Mackay [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 10:52 PM Subject: MD: Relay record? OK - not every home has these, but the *nicer* pro type MDs are set up to "relay" run. Thus when one clicks off - it clicks the next device on. Also - ref your boat cruise scenario - the nicer MD playback units are designed to trigger events. So the MD can trigger the next slide in the show. Denon's pro site talks about the use of MD in major productions. Wach sound bit can have multipe cue points that can trigger events. Thus the MD can trigger the "dim the lights for the solo" on the light control. Thus the sound and the stage events are synched. Maplin used to make a kit that allowed you to trigger relays via remote similar to the way a radio controlled car works. You could record the tones onto cassette and play it back through the remote to control something, a bit like a program. If anyone knows of a similar device, you could modify it and use left channel on the MD for sound and right channel for the tones to control the devices Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: sound blaster live value
Does the sound blaster live value have a optical digital out? no. (short answer) The later (MP3+, X-Gamer, 1024 depending on region) versions have a non-standard electrical digital out (which could be converted to optical), or you can buy a Hoontech bracket that adds optical ports http://www.hoontech.com ) for around $20. I believe Creative offered an official optical I/O upgrade at some point as well, at a much higher price than the Hoontech one. -- Simon - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Drive
James Caran wrote: Who makes the drives? Oops, sorry, they are Sony. Shawn On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Shawn R. Lin wrote: James Caran wrote: Hey Folks, I'm getting a new computer at work (I'm an audio engineer/Producer) and I will be doing a lot of work with MD (Yay.) I need to get a drive that will allow me to rip MD's (To And From) at more than realtime. Anyone know much about what my choices are (for Mac or PC)? Thanks a lot in advance... MDH-10 (external) or MDM-111 (internal) are the only ones I know of. You will need special software to do ripping, EDL sells the software but it's a lot of money. _ NetZero - Defenders of the Free World Click here for FREE Internet Access and Email http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: UK - what hifi? magazine / MXD-D3
Isn't that going to depend on how "wide" the I/O ports to the ATRAC encoder is, and the speed of the encoder? If it's type-R, then it's supposed to have double the computational ability of 4.5, but 20-bit I/O port width I think. If the data going in at quadrouple speed is seriously more than what the ATRAC can handle, then the encoding process may not be optimized? Because encoding has to happen in less time than the normal encoding process? Remember that interview with Sony engineers on MDCP where they mentioned that computational speed can hinder how good a job the recording is... I'm not completely sure... don't mind me. :) Leon From: "Simon Gardner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 20:45:16 +0100 To: "md-l@amulation. com" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: UK - what hifi? magazine / MXD-D3 Their main "first test" (double page spread) this month is of the Sony MXD-D3 CD/MD deck, where it got the full 5 stars. What interested me is that they noticed (more) degredation when it was high-speed copying than at realtime. Can anyone comment on this? Does this happen, or is it more magazine people kidding themselves with stuff like media differences and green markers? - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Promotion Mailing List...
=== = NB: Over 50% of this message is QUOTED, please = = be more selective when quoting text = === Hi. As far as it goes for me, if you have a promotion and are offering the blanks at some fantastic price (say something that even blows Art Munson out of the water) I have no problem at all with you listing it here. Other dealers have been doing it for years. If it is truly a ground breaking price, I think that we would all like to be able to take advantage of the promotion. I remember when the now defunct Minidisc Now offered a 10 pack of blanks for $23 including shipping in the price. I was glad to here about it. Regards, Larry Kheops GlassArt wrote: Hi everybody.. I will not send you any other publicity for my minidisc website store... Now I just start a mailing list for my different promotion because I don't want to bother anymore people of this mailing list with all my promotions about minidisc... I don't want to spam people with my advertisement and I want that only people who really want to receive my promotion should receive it directly on their email... My mailing list will be use for one and only thing : Send promotion twice a month about minidisc price... I will give promotion code and opportunity letting you know what is in special each month... I will not give you e-mail adress to anyone, not sell it... All e-mail and user information will be confidential... If you're interested, please visit my Online Website Store : Kheops Minidisc at : http://www.kheopsglassart.com/minidisc/ and in the front page there is a listbot mailing list for you to subscribe... Thank's for all... Sorry for all my previous messages... Hope this will help. Pierre F. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: MD Drive
BTW- both (all) Sony data drives have been discontinued. The last drives were manufactured in 1995. It is still possible to find used and sometimes even new ones on places like eBay. I might mention that the drives cannot write ATRAC audio without a firmware update (EDL is the one people that I know of that do this). eD - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handling charge !!!
Ok, Larry... That's a great Idea !!! So, I offer for all of you on this mailing list this price until April 16... Just take 2 pack of 5 MD MAS 0924 (10 MD at all) and it will cost you $23 for all including shipping !!! You will have 2 pack with 5 different colors (so 2 of green, blue, red, yellow and crystal...). Just mention that you see my offer on the mailing list of the Minidisc Community and you will have the price but only until April 16 !!! See ya... Pierre Forest. I remember when the now defunct Minidisc Now offered a 10 pack of blanks for $23 including shipping in the price. I was glad to here about it. Regards, Larry __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Cool Cheap Blanks for Sale!
Hi List, It's the end of the school year and I want to move my inventory of MDs out of here. Check out my auctions on Ebay! Some of these discs are very RARE in the US, and I'm selling them DIRT cheap, most of them ;-) http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItemsuserid=o3babyinclude=0since=-1sort=2rows=0 Also for Sale: Elektor SCMS Kit, built by Yoda himself... If you know the kit, then you know who Yoda might be... Make me an offer, but it's not going anywhere for less than $100. Finally, I've got this HUGE Collection of blank discs from around the world. 38 74 Minute, 15 80 Minute. Make me an offer!!! Brands are Sony, Hi-Space, TDK, Fuji, Axia, HHB, BASF, Minidisco, JVC. Check my web page for some OPEN Box specials on MD portables and other stuff! Thanks for reading. Sincerely, Mark J. Linkhorst http://www.angelfire.com/md2/MDLink __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handli ng charge !!!
Hi, I've seen your messages on MD-L. Just wondering, do you ship to New Zealand? if so, can you give a ballpark estimate of what postage and handling might be? I'm looking at ordering blank minidiscs from the U.S, but of course it has to be economical once postage and handling are considered. Postage wouldn't need to be super quick - 1-2 weeks would be fine, but it would need to be via airmail, and reasonably secure (I'm not as worried about when it gets here as long as it does actually get here!) looking forward to your response. richard Richard Lang Duncan Cotterill Christchurch, New Zealand -Original Message- From: Kheops GlassArt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 April 2000 3:04 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handling charge !!! Ok, Larry... That's a great Idea !!! So, I offer for all of you on this mailing list this price until April 16... Just take 2 pack of 5 MD MAS 0924 (10 MD at all) and it will cost you $23 for all including shipping !!! You will have 2 pack with 5 different colors (so 2 of green, blue, red, yellow and crystal...). Just mention that you see my offer on the mailing list of the Minidisc Community and you will have the price but only until April 16 !!! See ya... Pierre Forest. I remember when the now defunct Minidisc Now offered a 10 pack of blanks for $23 including shipping in the price. I was glad to here about it. Regards, Larry __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Please help--MZR90 problem
For some reason, my MZ-R90 doesn't wanna record anymore. I suppose it has something to do with the recording laser? well, wheni try to record, the recording level meter indicates the sound is going in ok and I can hear through the headphones while it's recording but when I try to play it back right after i record it, i get nothing but silence except for a few clicks here and there. If i pop the disk out and then back in, it views the disk as blank. If put a disk with some music already on it, and put like track mark in, it'll, say it's editing the TOC but when i pop it out and back in after it's done, it says the disk is blank again. Is the recorder having trouble writing the TOC or something? or is it having trouble writing at all? what should I do? thanks in advance. Matt - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and ha ndli ng charge !!!
sorry, y'all, had my brain un-plugged when I hit "reply". sorry for the waste in bandwidth. (just looking for a way to sustain my growing MD addiction without paying the insane NZ prices for the media) richard -Original Message- From: Richard Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 April 2000 3:27 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handli ng charge !!! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and ha ndli ng charge !!!
aritas are like nz$25 for 5 at jaycar in auckland, and they seem fine. But cheaper is better of cource :) - Original Message - From: Richard Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 3:43 PM Subject: RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and ha ndli ng charge !!! sorry, y'all, had my brain un-plugged when I hit "reply". sorry for the waste in bandwidth. (just looking for a way to sustain my growing MD addiction without paying the insane NZ prices for the media) richard -Original Message- From: Richard Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 April 2000 3:27 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handli ng charge !!! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handli ng charge !!!
Richard, I will look a this tomorrow... Of course, my special with shipping is for USA only... I can ship anywhere in the world but at actual shipping cost... Richard, could you tell me please how many MD you want and I will figure a price for you... Oh, By the way, I forgot on my last message to let my store link : http://www.kheopsglassart.com/minidisc/ Good luck !!! Pierre. Hi, I've seen your messages on MD-L. Just wondering, do you ship to New Zealand? if so, can you give a ballpark estimate of what postage and handling might be? I'm looking at ordering blank minidiscs from the U.S, but of course it has to be economical once postage and handling are considered. Postage wouldn't need to be super quick - 1-2 weeks would be fine, but it would need to be via airmail, and reasonably secure (I'm not as worried about when it gets here as long as it does actually get here!) looking forward to your response. richard Richard Lang Duncan Cotterill Christchurch, New Zealand __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and ha ndli ng charge !!!
hi, Richard thanks for the message what are the contact details for jaycar, if you have them handy? The lowest price for new MDs I've ever come across in Chch are sonys at $7ea - if you're lucky! usually you have to buy heaps at a time. $5 is still better than that! richard -Original Message- From: Richard Malcolm-Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 April 2000 3:47 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and ha ndli ng charge !!! aritas are like nz$25 for 5 at jaycar in auckland, and they seem fine. But cheaper is better of cource :) - Original Message - From: Richard Lang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 14, 2000 3:43 PM Subject: RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and ha ndli ng charge !!! sorry, y'all, had my brain un-plugged when I hit "reply". sorry for the waste in bandwidth. (just looking for a way to sustain my growing MD addiction without paying the insane NZ prices for the media) richard -Original Message- From: Richard Lang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, 14 April 2000 3:27 p.m. To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: MD: Ok Larry... $23 for 10 minidisc including shipping and handli ng charge !!! - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MD: Cheap disks in Tokyo
I found the cheapest disks I've yet seen in Tokyo last time I was there. Victor colour palette 10 packs for Y1500 which works out to USD$14.14 or AUD$23.58. USD$1.42 or AUD$2.25 per disk! I'll find out the name of the store and its address next time I'm in Tokyo (second week of May) for anyone in Tokyo looking for the cheapest possible. --- Rev Simon Rumble The Roman Rule: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The one who says it cannot be done should never http://www.rumble.net interrupt the one who is doing it. - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MD: MD - MD dubbing?
Re: MD - MD dubbing, my experience has actually been with burning onto MD a copy of another MD which was digitally (optically) burned from a CD. I've done this a couple of times (original CD unavailable). Obviously SCMS did it's job well (curse it!) and prevented digital recording with a nice "impossible" message. So we burned the copy by a reasonable quality analog connection, my friends portable (MZR 30 I think) recording, my JE 520 deck playing (from memory). You'd think the result would be awful. But it wasn't/isn't. it was a bit quieter than the original MD copy, but sound quality wise I couldn't tell a difference when played back on the same deck. i still listent o those MDs. One was mono, so sound quality isn't such a big deal anyhow. By contrast another time I experimented recording from my portable E 25 to the JE 520. The result wasn't awful, but it wasn't great either - I've concluded this is because of the lack of a line out on the E25. Now while we're on the subject of MD to MD dubbing, if you have two decks with difference ATRAC, say one with ATRAC 4.5 and one with ATRAC R (or ATRAC 3 vs ATRAC 4.5), is there any consenus as to which should be recording and which should be playing? My understanding is that even with digital connections, the music still gets compressed on it's way "out" of the playing deck and compressed on it's way "in" to the recording deck. With analogue you are also dealing with A D/A converter and an A/D converter. My rule of thumb is that when dubbing betweem different machines, the best machine should be playing, because that creates the best source for recording. Anyone? - Is this right? Or doesn't it matter? richard Richard Lang Duncan Cotterill Christchurch, New Zealand -Original Message- From: Magic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, 13 April 2000 9:30 p.m. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: MD: MD - MD dubbing? From: Dave Kimmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 6:31 AM Subject: MD: MD - MD dubbing? I've noticed HMV.com selling some of their selection MiniDisc format, which leads to an interesting question (either that or it just shows that I don't RTFM enough). If I have an MD deck with a digital out and try record to my MZ-R50, I know I can't record digitally from an MD that is a copy of a CD. Can I record from a store-bought MD to a blank MD without SCMS getting in my way? Yes you can. SCMS lets you make a digital copy of an original, but not a copy of that copy. Your original in this case is the MD you bought in HMV, so it will be quite happy with you copying it. Will there be a significant amount of degradation? Define significant. There will be degredation, but how much and how noticeable depends how sensitive your ears are and on what is in the music! Some types of sound degrade more quickly than others but I would be surprised if you notice it. It may even be less degradation than when you record CDs. I know that this would cause degradation, but does anyone know if this would cause unacceptable degradation in the sound quality? Again, define unacceptable. I think it's fine, some people wont even notice, others will treat it like a criminal act if they can't hear an ant fart 200 miles away over the top of a heavy metal band. Is it something that someone would even notice? Possibly, it depends on the music. Having noticed it, would it really bother you? I've noticed very small differences between original CDs and copies done digitally on the JB930, but it doesn't bother me because unless I really listen for it I wouldn't have even noticed. Magic -- "Creativity is more a birthright than an acquisition, and the power of sound is wisdom and understanding applied to the power of vibration." Location : Portsmouth, England, UK Homepage : http://www.mattnet.freeserve.co.uk EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To stop getting this list send a message containing just the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
