Re: [MBZ] Damn

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Heh. Harry Belefonte had been a civil rights organizer/promoter for most of his 
adult life. He was close friends with Martin Luther King and others.

-D

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> Yea I do recall hearing about that. I liked him except it seems like he might 
> have become to political in more recent years. His daughter used to be on 
> Hotel if you remember that show. 
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>> Harry Belefonte died recently. To be honest I didn't realize he was still 
>> alive...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I do recall hearing about that. I liked him except it seems like he might 
have become to political in more recent years. His daughter used to be on Hotel 
if you remember that show. 

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> On May 2, 2023, at 1:39 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
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> Harry Belefonte died recently. To be honest I didn't realize he was still 
> alive...
> 
> -Curt
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon 
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> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

He was definitely up there in years, for sure.

I was listening to an interview with him on Fresh Air/Terri Gross last week and 
heard a rendering of his song “Matilda”. First time I had ever heard it, and 
amazingly, I knew a parody of it by Allen Sherman (“My Zelda”) that was on one 
of his “party” records from the 1960s that my parents had. This was (at the 
time) supposed to be “naughty” so we kids weren’t allowed to listen to it. Of 
course we immediately did so when the parents left the house…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Son,_the_Folk_Singer

-D


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mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Harry Belefonte died recently. To be honest I didn't realize he was still 
alive...

-Curt

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 11:15:50 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:





All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Harry Belefonte died recently. To be honest I didn't realize he was still 
alive...

-Curt

On Monday, May 1, 2023 at 11:15:50 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon 

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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I am pretty sure that Keith Richards will outlive us all. That he isn't dead 
yet must mean that he is close to immortal.

On Mon, May 1, 2023, at 22:16, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I am surprised Willie Nelson is still alive and kicking.
>
> On 5/1/2023 10:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, thats why I mentioned him, I was seeing posts about it on the fakebook.

On 5/1/2023 10:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

His birthday was yesterday. 90 I think

--FT
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 wrote:

I am surprised Willie Nelson is still alive and kicking.


On 5/1/2023 10:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon

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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

His birthday was yesterday. 90 I think

--FT
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> On May 1, 2023, at 11:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
>> On 5/1/2023 10:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am surprised Willie Nelson is still alive and kicking.

On 5/1/2023 10:14 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon

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Re: [MBZ] Damn

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All the old 60s and 70s dudes and dudettes are kicking or will be soon 

--FT
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[MBZ] Damn

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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Again, the issue in my case was the lack of a title.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 6:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would guess that Florida is not inclined to help California with anything 
> these days, but legally they may be obligated if there is some kind of 
> contract or law in place.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 19:48, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think with my 300SE the lawyer managing the estate (and I use that 
>> term loosely) either didn’t have the pink slip or it had been lost.
>> 
>> Florida won’t accept cars without a title from out of state unless it’s 
>> a state with a time limit or that allows bills of sale (GA, PA?)
>> 
>> I had to have a pink slip or I couldn’t get it titled in FL.
>> 
>> I wouldn't be be surprised if CA had some sort of reciprocity deal with 
>> other states.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:36 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
>>> normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.
>>> 
>>> I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
>>> other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.
>>> 
>>> D.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
>>> you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I would guess that Florida is not inclined to help California with anything 
these days, but legally they may be obligated if there is some kind of contract 
or law in place.


On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 19:48, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I think with my 300SE the lawyer managing the estate (and I use that 
> term loosely) either didn’t have the pink slip or it had been lost.
>
> Florida won’t accept cars without a title from out of state unless it’s 
> a state with a time limit or that allows bills of sale (GA, PA?)
>
> I had to have a pink slip or I couldn’t get it titled in FL.
>
> I wouldn't be be surprised if CA had some sort of reciprocity deal with 
> other states.
>
> -D
>
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:36 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
>> normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.
>> 
>> I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
>> other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.
>> 
>> D.
>> 
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:
>> 
>> If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
>> you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.
>> 
>> Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I think with my 300SE the lawyer managing the estate (and I use that term 
loosely) either didn’t have the pink slip or it had been lost.

Florida won’t accept cars without a title from out of state unless it’s a state 
with a time limit or that allows bills of sale (GA, PA?)

I had to have a pink slip or I couldn’t get it titled in FL.

I wouldn't be be surprised if CA had some sort of reciprocity deal with other 
states.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:36 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
> normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.
> 
> I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
> other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.
> 
> D.
> 
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:
> 
> If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
> you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.
> 
> Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Again, the only way you could do it is if you live in a state that doesn’t 
require a title, or maybe the “title washing” services like I used.

CA won’t issue a “pink slip” (title) unless everything on the vehicle is 
current.

-D

On Aug 27, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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Dan knows for sure…I’m pretty sure… but I’m thinking the back registration must 
be paid before they will let you have it, so to speak.

AZBob

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I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process.

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:18:58 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:





If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state,
or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA
releases the title/registration?

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.

I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.

D.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:

If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.

Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

If you’re in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title you 
could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.

Otherwise, you’ll have to settle up with CA to get a title.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, or 
> can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA releases the 
> title/registration?
> 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Does the owner hold the actual paper tittle in Kommiefawnya or does the 
state DMV retain it?  But yeah, buy the car, get a BoS, and launder it 
through some other state that doesn't deal with that nonsense.


--FT

On 8/27/22 11:34 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

I’m thinking the back registration must be paid before they will let you have 
it, so to speak.

Screw 'em.  Demanding payment for services NOT rendered?  Wash the title 
elsewhere
and CA be damned.

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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What is there to "let you have" ?

I can see if they are re-titling it in Krazyfornia, but if the owner has the 
title and can provide it wth sale why would another state care about taxes owed 
there?

Might be the case that the car could be impounded if you were caught with the 
car there later.


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> Dan knows for sure…I’m pretty sure… but I’m thinking the back registration 
> must be paid before they will let you have it, so to speak.
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> If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state,
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>  
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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> I’m thinking the back registration must be paid before they will let you have 
> it, so to speak.

Screw 'em.  Demanding payment for services NOT rendered?  Wash the title 
elsewhere
and CA be damned.

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Dan knows for sure…I’m pretty sure… but I’m thinking the back registration must be paid before they will let you have it, so to speak. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Curt Raymond via MercedesSent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 8:25 AMTo: mercedes@okiebenz.comCc: Curt RaymondSubject: Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process. -Curt  On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:18:58 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  wrote:  If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA releases the title/registration? --FT On 8/27/22 10:49 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/568555741618345/> > AZBob> > Sent from Mail  for > Windows> > > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> -- --FT ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process.

-Curt


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 wrote: 





If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, 
or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA 
releases the title/registration?

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, 
or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA 
releases the title/registration?


--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Damn

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On 2020-10-31 10:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

yeah saw that.  bummer.  He was the best Bond and a funny guy too


You have the manners of a goat.
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Re: [MBZ] Damn

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah saw that.  bummer.  He was the best Bond and a funny guy too

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https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-54761824

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Re: [MBZ] Damn

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That sucks.

I wonder if they’re going to do a final “Celebrity Jeopardy” with him on 
Saturday Night Live”?

“I’ll take anal bum cover for $400, Trebek."

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Damn these are getting cheap

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Probably already sold 

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Re: [MBZ] Damn these are getting cheap

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Posting deleted. Kleb musta snapped it up!


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Re: [MBZ] Damn these are getting cheap

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Guy probably got an estimate for some electronic failure that will cost more 
than the car is worth

clay

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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

I'll second that.  When I was stationed in Italy in the late '90s, I
bought a '79 528i with 5 spd manual - that car positively screamed.
Unfortunately it also broke down regularly and I didn't speak enough
Italian to find the local equivalent of Rusty.  I did have a great local
mechanic though, Vincenzo, who was very fast and very very cheap.  When
I brought him the car for the second minor repair, he told me that this
car was not a good car and to expect more trouble.  3rd repair (more
major), Vincenzo says This is a bad car, you should look for a new
car.  4th repair (something broke inside the tranny), he asks me how
much I paid for the car ($2000) to which he replied sell the car and if
you get half that consider yourself lucky. The transmission repair
involved removing the tranny and opening it up to figure out what was
wrong, going to junkyard and getting required part, install/put back
together/install in car/refill the oil.  My total bill was $175; I threw
in a pack of smokes and a bottle of jack.  After repairs #5 and #6 (hey
that car was REALLY fast and my Italian red-headed girlfriend loved it)
I did sell the car (for $2000 to some Greek officer who was thrilled to
get it) and bought a Alfa sedan for $500, and it never broke down on me.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 313k miles
Charleston SC



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And they are a BLAST to drive, all of them.

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Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:

After repairs #5 and #6 I did sell the car (for $2000 to some Greek officer

 Who was thrilled to get it) and bought a Alfa sedan for $500, and it never
 broke down on me.

Now there's an advertising slogan for you: BMW - more troublesome than an 
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Funny how the alfa sedan never broke down.  That alfa must have handled really 
well.

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On Aug 31, 2009, at 7:55 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

I'll second that.  When I was stationed in Italy in the late '90s, I
bought a '79 528i with 5 spd manual - that car positively screamed.
Unfortunately it also broke down regularly and I didn't speak enough
Italian to find the local equivalent of Rusty.  I did have a great local
mechanic though, Vincenzo, who was very fast and very very cheap.  When
I brought him the car for the second minor repair, he told me that this
car was not a good car and to expect more trouble.  3rd repair (more
major), Vincenzo says This is a bad car, you should look for a new
car.  4th repair (something broke inside the tranny), he asks me how
much I paid for the car ($2000) to which he replied sell the car and if
you get half that consider yourself lucky. The transmission repair
involved removing the tranny and opening it up to figure out what was
wrong, going to junkyard and getting required part, install/put back
together/install in car/refill the oil.  My total bill was $175; I threw
in a pack of smokes and a bottle of jack.  After repairs #5 and #6 (hey
that car was REALLY fast and my Italian red-headed girlfriend loved it)
I did sell the car (for $2000 to some Greek officer who was thrilled to
get it) and bought a Alfa sedan for $500, and it never broke down on me.

Very respectfully,
/s/
LCDR Max Dillon
'87 300TD 313k miles
Charleston SC



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[Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310]

In this case, it was really a matter of the treatment of each of the
cars.  The BMW came from Sicily and was not well kept mechanically but
the exterior and interior were fantastic.  The Alfa came from northern
Italy (where they speak German as well as Italian) and it was well cared
for.  I think that Alfa at that point in time was also making decent
quality cars (early '80s, I think the car was an '82). It had a 2 liter
4 cyl with double overhead cams and dual carbs; decent mileage and could
cruise at 150 kph all day long.  5 speed tranny located at rear axle,
handled like a dream.  This particular model was very popular with the
mafia, and when I drove the car with authority people tended to get out
the way in a hurry, which the girl friend thought was hilarious.

Max

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Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
 After repairs #5 and #6 I did sell the car (for $2000 to some Greek 
 officer
  Who was thrilled to get it) and bought a Alfa sedan for $500, and it
never   broke down on me.

Now there's an advertising slogan for you: BMW - more troublesome than
an Italian car.


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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[Dimitri Seretakis]

Hot girlfriend?  Those italian women are smokin' but as far as attitude I won't 
comment. 

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On Aug 31, 2009, at 8:19 AM, Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 
meade.m.dil...@navy.mil wrote:

In this case, it was really a matter of the treatment of each of the
cars.  The BMW came from Sicily and was not well kept mechanically but
the exterior and interior were fantastic.  The Alfa came from northern
Italy (where they speak German as well as Italian) and it was well cared
for.  I think that Alfa at that point in time was also making decent
quality cars (early '80s, I think the car was an '82). It had a 2 liter
4 cyl with double overhead cams and dual carbs; decent mileage and could
cruise at 150 kph all day long.  5 speed tranny located at rear axle,
handled like a dream.  This particular model was very popular with the
mafia, and when I drove the car with authority people tended to get out
the way in a hurry, which the girl friend thought was hilarious.

Max

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Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310 wrote:
After repairs #5 and #6 I did sell the car (for $2000 to some Greek 
officer
Who was thrilled to get it) and bought a Alfa sedan for $500, and it
never   broke down on me.

Now there's an advertising slogan for you: BMW - more troublesome than
an Italian car.


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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[Allan Streib]

On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 22:14 -0500, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Reminds me of orientation when I worked as an aide at a mental hospital -
 never argue with the patients.

Hm.  Thinking there might be a good parallel there dealing with 7th grade son.

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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[OK Don]

That is one wierd looking car!

  ...or a 327.
 BTW, a search for BMW 327 found this for me:
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[MBZ] Damn!

[Donald Snook]

The radiator on my BMW sprang a large leak from the plastic tank and I  
am 100 miles from home. Does anybody know if there is a temp fix to  
seal it up so I could get home? Email me directly because i am on  
digest and won't get a response I get the digest

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Re: [MBZ] Damn!

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

It just keeps getting worse and worse. Go buy some of that JB weld water 
weld putty stuff, that would do it


Donald Snook wrote:
The radiator on my BMW sprang a large leak from the plastic tank and I  
am 100 miles from home. Does anybody know if there is a temp fix to  
seal it up so I could get home? Email me directly because i am on  
digest and won't get a response I get the digest


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[MBZ] Damn! Update

[Donald Snook]

Well I am standing in a shopping center parking lot in Ottawa, Kansas  
(about 45 Mins south of Kansas City). A new radiator will be here in 3  
hours. I guess I will find out how useful the BMW toolkit really is!  
Nothing like working on a car in a parking lot!

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Re: [MBZ] Damn! Update

[Loren Faeth]

Oreilley's has a epoxy/fiberglass patch kit.  I used that one time, 
and it is still holding.  the key is roughing up the surface with the 
sandpaper included in the kit.  the blue gloves not in the kit are 
good for keeping the stuff you  your fingers.


Welcome to the world of BMW 4 wheelers.  It always amazed me how one 
company could make the most reliable,  un-fussy motorcycles, and one 
of the most fussy cars.


At 11:05 AM 8/30/2009, you wrote:

Well I am standing in a shopping center parking lot in Ottawa, Kansas
(about 45 Mins south of Kansas City). A new radiator will be here in 3
hours. I guess I will find out how useful the BMW toolkit really is!
Nothing like working on a car in a parking lot!

Donald H Snook
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(316) 263-5851
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Re: [MBZ] Damn! Update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

the first of many such adventures to come.

Donald Snook wrote:
Well I am standing in a shopping center parking lot in Ottawa, Kansas  
(about 45 Mins south of Kansas City). A new radiator will be here in 3  
hours. I guess I will find out how useful the BMW toolkit really is!  
Nothing like working on a car in a parking lot!


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Re: [MBZ] Damn! Update

[Russ Williams]

N He'll sell it next week :-D

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

the first of many such adventures to come.

Donald Snook wrote:
Well I am standing in a shopping center parking lot in Ottawa, 
Kansas  (about 45 Mins south of Kansas City). A new radiator will be 
here in 3  hours. I guess I will find out how useful the BMW toolkit 
really is!  Nothing like working on a car in a parking lot!


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Re: [MBZ] Damn!

[Mitch Haley]

Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
It just keeps getting worse and worse. Go buy some of that JB weld water 
weld putty stuff, that would do it


And maybe try running without the pressure cap if you can keep the temp down 
around 90C with the A/C off.


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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Donald Snook]

Well, I still have two hours to wait. I decided to try the quiksteel  
epoxy. I am waiting for it to cure and then I can drive the car around  
this little town and see if it holds. If it does I will try to make it  
back to Wichita.

I had forgotten this, but I used this same stuff to fix an external  
crack in the block on my '85 Olds 98. It was leaking a small amount of  
coolant and this stuff fixed it.  Keep your fingers crossed!

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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[WILTON]

Good luck with it.  So where's the new radiator?

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

To: Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update


The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's  
working fine so far. Knock wood trim


Donald H Snook
McDonald Tinker Law Firm
(316) 263-5851
www.mtsqh.com


On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:


Well, I still have two hours to wait. I decided to try the quiksteel
epoxy. I am waiting for it to cure and then I can drive the car around
this little town and see if it holds. If it does I will try to make it
back to Wichita.

I had forgotten this, but I used this same stuff to fix an external
crack in the block on my '85 Olds 98. It was leaking a small amount of
coolant and this stuff fixed it.  Keep your fingers crossed!

Donald H Snook
McDonald Tinker Law Firm
(316) 263-5851
www.mtsqh.com



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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Donald Snook]

The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's  
working fine so far. Knock wood trim

Donald H Snook
McDonald Tinker Law Firm
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On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 Well, I still have two hours to wait. I decided to try the quiksteel
 epoxy. I am waiting for it to cure and then I can drive the car around
 this little town and see if it holds. If it does I will try to make it
 back to Wichita.

 I had forgotten this, but I used this same stuff to fix an external
 crack in the block on my '85 Olds 98. It was leaking a small amount of
 coolant and this stuff fixed it.  Keep your fingers crossed!

 Donald H Snook
 McDonald Tinker Law Firm
 (316) 263-5851
 www.mtsqh.com


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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Mitch Haley]

Donald Snook wrote:

 Knock wood trim


...and hope it doesn't fall off the dashboard.


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Re: [MBZ] Damn! Update

[kevin kraly]

Hopefully, you don't have to take half the front end apart to do the swap!

Good luck!

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon, between MB Diesels
PS.  My neighbor's black 2000 Bimmer 740IL is quite nice, but I would prefer 
a nice W126 SDL 



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Re: [MBZ] Damn! Update

[E M]

Consider it all part of that 1/3 the purchase price you set aside to sort it
out. ;-)  You still have a great car, and now with a new rad, one less thing
to worry about.  When you get home, check all the hoses, and change what's
needed, then you will have gone over most of the cooling system.

As for doing a quick repair in a parking lot, who hasn't been there before?
:-)

Ed
300E, which has had some work to the cooling system done in a parking lot
too.

2009/8/30 Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com

 Well I am standing in a shopping center parking lot in Ottawa, Kansas
 (about 45 Mins south of Kansas City). A new radiator will be here in 3
 hours. I guess I will find out how useful the BMW toolkit really is!
 Nothing like working on a car in a parking lot!

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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

so did you buy the radiator anyway?

Donald Snook wrote:
The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's  
working fine so far. Knock wood trim


Donald H Snook
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On Aug 30, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

  

Well, I still have two hours to wait. I decided to try the quiksteel
epoxy. I am waiting for it to cure and then I can drive the car around
this little town and see if it holds. If it does I will try to make it
back to Wichita.

I had forgotten this, but I used this same stuff to fix an external
crack in the block on my '85 Olds 98. It was leaking a small amount of
coolant and this stuff fixed it.  Keep your fingers crossed!

Donald H Snook
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Re: [MBZ] Damn! Update

[Allan Streib]

Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com writes:

 Nothing like working on a car in a parking lot!

The stores generally *love* that.  I had a mall security officer
decend on me in his Ford Explorer with flashing yellow lights, when I
was adding antifreeze in the mall parking lot.  This was when my water
pump was leaking but before I had a chance to fix it properly.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Wonko the Sane]

Drive it on up to Iowa. I will trade you straight across for my 300E.

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 The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's
 working fine so far. Knock wood trim





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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

you would be getting the short end of the stick

Wonko the Sane wrote:

Drive it on up to Iowa. I will trade you straight across for my 300E.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

  

The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's
working fine so far. Knock wood trim







  


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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Wonko the Sane]

BMW is one of the brands of car I've never owned.

Owned:
 Ford
 GM
 Chrysler
 Mercedes
 VW
 MG
 Acura

Never owned:
 BMW
 Yugo

Oh -- maybe there is a pattern here after all.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 you would be getting the short end of the stick

 Wonko the Sane wrote:

 Drive it on up to Iowa. I will trade you straight across for my 300E.

 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:



 The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's
 working fine so far. Knock wood trim










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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[Donald Snook]

Kaleb wrote: you would be getting the short end of the stick

Do you think it is ironic that this is the most recent of several  
emails you have sent which predicts gloom and doom for the BMW that I  
just got and the other emails you sent in this digest are lamenting  
the fact that you are working on yet another Mercedes with serious and  
expensive major problems?

Consider this: you have more than a few MBs with big problems - a 140  
that has or will have bent rods, another 140 with serious engine  
problems, a slew of other MBs that require significant and extensive  
repairs.

The Repairs today to my car cost $11. Even when I do have to replace  
the radiator, it will cost me less than $200.  Plus, the car has  
160,000 miles that's not too bad for a plastic radiator. Aren't there  
several MBs that have $1000 radiators?

Sorry for the rant.


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[OK Don]

Wow - talk about jumping from the frying pan into the fire 

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Drive it on up to Iowa. I will trade you straight across for my 300E.


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[OK Don]

So get a BMW bike - forget the cars (unless it's a 507 or Z3 coupe).

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:15 PM, Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 BMW is one of the brands of car I've never owned.

 Owned:
  Ford
  GM
  Chrysler
  Mercedes
  VW
  MG
  Acura

 Never owned:
  BMW
  Yugo

 Oh -- maybe there is a pattern here after all.

 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:

  you would be getting the short end of the stick
 
  Wonko the Sane wrote:
 
  Drive it on up to Iowa. I will trade you straight across for my 300E.
 
  On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:
 
 
 
  The quiksteel is on. I am going 70 mph on my way home and it's
  working fine so far. Knock wood trim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[OK Don]

Three points:
1) Kaleb looks for and buys cars with problems, betting that he can fix
them.
2) Kalebs loves pulling your chain,  any one elses for that matter.
3) Many of the members of this list are either religous, or obsessive about
the MB brand - don't expect rational discourse regarding rival marques.
Reminds me of orientation when I worked as an aide at a mental hospital -
never argue with the patients.

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

 Kaleb wrote: you would be getting the short end of the stick

 Do you think it is ironic that this is the most recent of several
 emails you have sent which predicts gloom and doom for the BMW that I
 just got and the other emails you sent in this digest are lamenting
 the fact that you are working on yet another Mercedes with serious and
 expensive major problems?

 Consider this: you have more than a few MBs with big problems - a 140
 that has or will have bent rods, another 140 with serious engine
 problems, a slew of other MBs that require significant and extensive
 repairs.

 The Repairs today to my car cost $11. Even when I do have to replace
 the radiator, it will cost me less than $200.  Plus, the car has
 160,000 miles that's not too bad for a plastic radiator. Aren't there
 several MBs that have $1000 radiators?

 Sorry for the rant.

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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn! Update

[Mitch Haley]

OK Don wrote:

So get a BMW bike - forget the cars (unless it's a 507 or Z3 coupe).


...or a 327.
BTW, a search for BMW 327 found this for me:
http://jalopnik.com/5120828/

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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[E M]

Put a few bucks and some time into the BMW, and I'm sure you'll be pleased
with it.  It's a big strong car that will go lots and lots of miles if given
the same attention and care as a similar vintage mercedes would require.

Ed
300E

2009/8/30 OK Don okd...@gmail.com

 Three points:
 1) Kaleb looks for and buys cars with problems, betting that he can fix
 them.
 2) Kalebs loves pulling your chain,  any one elses for that matter.
 3) Many of the members of this list are either religous, or obsessive about
 the MB brand - don't expect rational discourse regarding rival marques.
 Reminds me of orientation when I worked as an aide at a mental hospital -
 never argue with the patients.

 On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Donald Snook dsn...@mtsqh.com wrote:

  Kaleb wrote: you would be getting the short end of the stick
 
  Do you think it is ironic that this is the most recent of several
  emails you have sent which predicts gloom and doom for the BMW that I
  just got and the other emails you sent in this digest are lamenting
  the fact that you are working on yet another Mercedes with serious and
  expensive major problems?
 
  Consider this: you have more than a few MBs with big problems - a 140
  that has or will have bent rods, another 140 with serious engine
  problems, a slew of other MBs that require significant and extensive
  repairs.
 
  The Repairs today to my car cost $11. Even when I do have to replace
  the radiator, it will cost me less than $200.  Plus, the car has
  160,000 miles that's not too bad for a plastic radiator. Aren't there
  several MBs that have $1000 radiators?
 
  Sorry for the rant.
 
  Donald H Snook
 


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Re: [MBZ] mbz Damn update

[Peter Frederick]

And they are a BLAST to drive, all of them.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Damn 606 intake manifold.

[Loren Faeth]

You are not supposed to own one of those things.  If it is out of 
warranty/off lease, it is meant to be scrapped.  You are supposed to 
buy a new one.

At 09:47 PM 10/14/2007, you wrote:
Anybody figure out a way to diagnose and work on the fuel side of a 606
engine ?
That big intake manifold system completely covers the entire driver side of
my 606.910 engines.
And it's always a PITA to diagnose and repair fuel leaks, fuel injection,
and idle problems because you cannot see or reach anything on that side of
the engine with the engine fully assembled and  running.  And I don't think
you can run the engine with the intake manifold removed.  It is not near as
convienient as working on a 617 (and I presume 602, 3 or 4 engines).

I've had limited success removing the body underside covers and laying under
the car with it up on blocks.  But this feels dangerous and what you can
safely reach and manipulate from underneath is pretty limited.

To repair anything on the FI pump side, you have to guess what the problem
is, then invest a couple of hours removing and replacing the crossover and
intake manifold to change some part or make adjustment. Then start the
engine to see what effect it had.  Usually you have to repeat that whole
procedure over and over until you guessed the correct fix.  I keep a stock
of intake manifold gaskets to do this.

Am I going about this all wrong?  Has anybody else with a '95 E300D found an
easier way to work on this side of the engine?

Thanks,
Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
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[MBZ] Damn 606 intake manifold.

[ned kleinhenz]

Anybody figure out a way to diagnose and work on the fuel side of a 606
engine ?
That big intake manifold system completely covers the entire driver side of
my 606.910 engines.
And it's always a PITA to diagnose and repair fuel leaks, fuel injection,
and idle problems because you cannot see or reach anything on that side of
the engine with the engine fully assembled and  running.  And I don't think
you can run the engine with the intake manifold removed.  It is not near as
convienient as working on a 617 (and I presume 602, 3 or 4 engines).

I've had limited success removing the body underside covers and laying under
the car with it up on blocks.  But this feels dangerous and what you can
safely reach and manipulate from underneath is pretty limited.

To repair anything on the FI pump side, you have to guess what the problem
is, then invest a couple of hours removing and replacing the crossover and
intake manifold to change some part or make adjustment. Then start the
engine to see what effect it had.  Usually you have to repeat that whole
procedure over and over until you guessed the correct fix.  I keep a stock
of intake manifold gaskets to do this.

Am I going about this all wrong?  Has anybody else with a '95 E300D found an
easier way to work on this side of the engine?

Thanks,
Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Damn 606 intake manifold

[Vik Momjian]

Hello Ned ,

I agree it's a PITA to have to remove the intake ! My 617s (126 and 123) are a 
breeze to work on
as compared to the 606. 

My MB tech/mechanic friend who replaced the delivery valve seals showed me that 
you could start
and run the engine with the intake off if diagnosing fuel leaks. The engine did 
run rough, but it
beats assembling and disassembling back and forth.

If you do find alternate methods , please share !!!

regards,

VIK MOMJIAN
1996 E300D 198k miles
1981 300SD 273k miles
1980 300TD 149k miles (needs some top end repairs) 

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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Jeff Zedic]

Hahaha, too easy!

I mean Lake Ontario!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

[MBZ] Damn, it's cold

[wilton strickland]

Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland was -55F; chill
factor = -90F.  My new USAF 78 Ford crewcab pickup ran continuously for the
2 weeks.  'Had to breathe slowly and carefully not to freeze/hurt throat and
lungs.  Yes, spit froze before hitting grnd.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Damn, it's cold

[Sunil Hari]

what are  you doing in greenland?!

On 4/5/06, wilton strickland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Temp for one 2 week period at Sondrestromfjord, Greenland was -55F; chill
 factor = -90F.  My new USAF 78 Ford crewcab pickup ran continuously for
 the
 2 weeks.  'Had to breathe slowly and carefully not to freeze/hurt throat
 and
 lungs.  Yes, spit froze before hitting grnd.

 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Curt Raymond]

At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a coughing 
fit.
   
  I was born in Caribou, Maine where the week I was born (Feb 7) it never got 
above -20F. I own 85 acres up there with a little camp on it. My wife and I 
always talk about going up in the winter to go snowmobiling but the camp 
doesn't have any insulation in the roof or floor, at -20F I expect it'd be 
MIGHTY tough to keep warm.
  Oh my sleeping bag is good to -15F and I'm sure if I put it in another bag 
I'd be fine its the time it takes to get up in the night and go pee I'd be 
worried about...
   
  -Curt
   
  Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:53:45 -0400
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Kinda like when you have to worry about the oil in your differential 
freezing solid so that it physically won't move even with the engine's 
power, or if you shut the door too hard your paint falls off.  (:
Those are just anecdotes I've heard from people.

Personally, the coldest I've done is way north, NY (Canton area, right 
next to Canada) where it periodically hits 20 below and occasionally 40 
below (F).  It feels cold here at 15 degrees, but at 20-40 below, it 
gets to where that first inhalation walking out the door kinda hurts, 
and you get an instant chill up your pantleg.  And you hope your door 
locks will still move.  (I would have been worried about the engine 
starting were I not using Mobil 1).  Most people just leave their cars 
running at the store when it's that cold.

So I bet I've been through colder than most of the typical U.S., but 
I'm no where's near the worst of it.  (:

Levi



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Sunil, I was USAF Director of Engineering at Sondrestrom Air Base, Grnlnd,
Feb 78-Feb 79.

Wilton

Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Gary Hurst]

buffalo is on a different lake altogether

i grew up in NYC and have spent time in rochester.  rochester is MUCH
colder.  not sure how you figure toronto would be warmer


On 4/5/06, Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right
 at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're
 almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south!

 Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10
 times the snow and cold that we do!

 Jeff Zedic
 Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[lee]

On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote:
 At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a
 coughing fit.

Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill, and it 
was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a couple of 
years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit. 

Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you can 
feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost instantly 
(probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and freeze, 
and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back 
indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately condense 
on them and freeze. 

Lee

Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[andrew strasfogel]

I thought Rochester NY was known more for its localized lake-effect
blizzards than record-breaking cold.

On 4/6/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's
 usually snow instead of snot.  (:
 I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I
 was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing in my face and I
 was squinting, it was literally freezing my eyelashes together...

 Levi (:

 lee wrote:
  On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote:
 
 At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a
 coughing fit.
 
 
  Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill,
 and it
  was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a
 couple of
  years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit.
 
  Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you
 can
  feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost
 instantly
  (probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and
 freeze,
  and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back
  indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately
 condense
  on them and freeze.
 
  Lee
 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Levi Smith]

I'd say you are correct, but that Rochester isn't even that well known 
for the lake effect snow.  (not that it doesn't get it, but I don't 
think it holds a candle to the buffalo area).
I live near Corning which is more south of Rochester and my in-laws live 
between Jamestown, NY and Erie, PA which is mostly South of Buffalo. 
There's almost a visible line you cross somewhere around Salamanca, 
where suddenly you're in the REAL snow belt in the winter.  Which 
usually means that even with the traffic, the highway is covered, you 
have a hard time seeing anything but driving snow, and it usually comes 
down about 12 inches at a time.  (as opposed to this side of that line 
where it seems to come down a couple inches at a time).


Levi (:

andrew strasfogel wrote:

I thought Rochester NY was known more for its localized lake-effect
blizzards than record-breaking cold.

On 4/6/06, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Yeah, I forgot about the frosty beard effect as well, though that's
usually snow instead of snot.  (:
I remember one time (I don't even think it was THAT cold at the time) I
was getting a little worried as the snow was blowing in my face and I
was squinting, it was literally freezing my eyelashes together...

Levi (:

lee wrote:


On Thursday 06 April 2006 7:55, Curt Raymond wrote:



At -20F don't inhale through your mouth, thats a prescription for a
coughing fit.



Been there a few times in Detroit. I have seen -60 with the wind chill,


and it


was unpleasantly cold. I worked in commercial blast freezers for a


couple of


years, and it was not as bad as a bad winter day in Detroit.

Inhaling through the mouth is bad, inhaling through your nose means you


can


feel the moisture in your nose and airway freeze and crackle almost


instantly


(probably TMI for some.) Breath tends to condense in facial hair and


freeze,


and if the cold makes your nose run, you have snotsickles. Stepping back
indoors, if you wear glasses, means that moisture will immediately


condense


on them and freeze.

Lee

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Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[John Berryman]

On Apr 6, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Levi Smith wrote:


I'd say you are correct, but that Rochester isn't even that well known
for the lake effect snow.  (not that it doesn't get it, but I don't
think it holds a candle to the buffalo area).
I live near Corning which is more south of Rochester and my in-laws  
live

between Jamestown, NY and Erie, PA which is mostly South of Buffalo.
There's almost a visible line you cross somewhere around Salamanca,
where suddenly you're in the REAL snow belt in the winter.


	The Mohawk valley is a pipeline for snow. I live about 70 miles  
North of Albany and historically we get lower temps and less snow.
	Find Old Forge and Tugg Hill Plateau on a map and see if you can  
figure out why it is the snowmobiling capital of the world


Can we talk about Spring soon, please?

Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[David Brodbeck]

John Berryman wrote:
	The Mohawk valley is a pipeline for snow. I live about 70 miles  
North of Albany and historically we get lower temps and less snow.
	Find Old Forge and Tugg Hill Plateau on a map and see if you can  
figure out why it is the snowmobiling capital of the world
  


I went to college in Houghton, Michigan, in the northern part of the 
upper peninsula.  Lake Superior keeps the temperatures from getting as 
low as they do in northern Minnesota, but it also generates a lot of 
lake effect snow.  The worst of it tends to be around Marquette and 
Munising, but the first winter I was up there, Houghton got over 200 inches.



David Brodbeck
'83 300D Turbo

[MBZ] Damn, it's cold

[wilton strickland]

Sunil, after Grnlnd, I had choice of only B-52 bases; came to Goldsboro, NC,
to fly B-52's.

Wilton

[MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Jeff Zedic]

Not that this is a one-up-manship contest, but I had a buddy that was 
working security at a construction site in the winter in Yellowknife, NWT.


One night whilst making his rounds he found that if he spit, it would 
freeze solid before it hit the ground! Now THAT'S COLD!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Levi Smith]

Kinda like when you have to worry about the oil in your differential 
freezing solid so that it physically won't move even with the engine's 
power, or if you shut the door too hard your paint falls off.  (:

Those are just anecdotes I've heard from people.

Personally, the coldest I've done is way north, NY (Canton area, right 
next to Canada) where it periodically hits 20 below and occasionally 40 
below (F).  It feels cold here at 15 degrees, but at 20-40 below, it 
gets to where that first inhalation walking out the door kinda hurts, 
and you get an instant chill up your pantleg.  And you hope your door 
locks will still move.  (I would have been worried about the engine 
starting were I not using Mobil 1).  Most people just leave their cars 
running at the store when it's that cold.


So I bet I've been through colder than most of the typical U.S., but 
I'm no where's near the worst of it.  (:


Levi


Jeff Zedic wrote:
Not that this is a one-up-manship contest, but I had a buddy that was 
working security at a construction site in the winter in Yellowknife, NWT.


One night whilst making his rounds he found that if he spit, it would 
freeze solid before it hit the ground! Now THAT'S COLD!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto
87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[Jeff Zedic]

The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right 
at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're 
almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south!


Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10 
times the snow and cold that we do!


Jeff Zedic
Toronto

Re: [MBZ] Damn it's cold was veggie fuel

[R A Bennell]

What do you mean by huge heat source?  Are you referring to the hot air that 
comes out of Queen's Park?

Randy B

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The beauty of living in Toronto is that we have a huge heat source right 
at the south end of the city so even though we're farther north, we're 
almost always warmer than NYC 500 miles south!

Buffalo on the other hand, is on the wrong side of the lake and gets 10 
times the snow and cold that we do!

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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[MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

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Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[redghost]

Very

On Monday, March 6, 2006, at 07:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ 
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4618061700rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT 
rd=1

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1995 E300D - Cleo
1987 300SDL - POS - DOA
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Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[Dave M.]

Cheap, schmeep! You still got 36 hours to get your bid in! Go for it,
Kaleb... too far away for me. Why aren't there any of these in the
Pacific Northwest?

:)

-dm

 --
 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:32:10 -0600
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap


 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4618061700

Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[John Berryman]

On Mar 6, 2006, at 10:48 PM, redghost wrote:


Very

On Monday, March 6, 2006, at 07:32 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/
eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4618061700rd=1sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA% 
3AIT

rd=1
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	It didn't go for anything yet, From what I see there is still 1 day  
and 15hours left on this auction. Don't worry, the price will go up.


Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am

Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[Mike Canfield]

Hey Kaleb...You Psychic or on drugs??  How can it WENT cheap if the 
auction hasn't ended yet?


Mike
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:19 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap



Cheap, schmeep! You still got 36 hours to get your bid in! Go for it,
Kaleb... too far away for me. Why aren't there any of these in the
Pacific Northwest?

:)

-dm


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Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:32:10 -0600
From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4618061700


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Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

crap, why did I think it ended.  Well it see its up to 1900 now.

Dave M. wrote:


Cheap, schmeep! You still got 36 hours to get your bid in! Go for it,
Kaleb... too far away for me. Why aren't there any of these in the
Pacific Northwest?

:)

-dm



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Subject: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4618061700



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Re: [MBZ] damn, this went cheap

[andrew strasfogel]

What's it cost to R/R the windshield on these cars?



On 3/7/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 crap, why did I think it ended.  Well it see its up to 1900 now.

 Dave M. wrote:

  Cheap, schmeep! You still got 36 hours to get your bid in! Go for it,
  Kaleb... too far away for me. Why aren't there any of these in the
  Pacific Northwest?
 
  :)
 
  -dm
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Kevin]

On Sat, Jul 16, 2005 at 11:32:18AM -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 I turned off the engine, let the pressure off, restarted the engine then 
 added the coolant.  It was not pegged anymore but still running way way 
 too hot.  It may not have been filled up all the way, I will mess with 
 it some more here in a little bit.  She said the light was not on and 
 the temp was not hot, the car was in the driveway running less than 1 
 min.  I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to 
 have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground. 
 There was none.  Cant argue with a woman.

Friend of mine works for a TV station. I stopped by the station one day,
and noticed that one of the XJ's was gone, and asked him about it. Apparently
a reporter spidered the head (think cracks that look like a spider web)
going up a steep hill. XJ wasn't worth fixing, it was a 90 with over 240k 
on it, four banger five speed, but before that, needed *NOTHING* but brakes,
tires, oil, and gas since new - station was just waiting until it costed them
money to off it.

Cause was a healthy crack in a radiator hose. They asked the reporter if
the jeep was running warm, and they said that it started to get really
hot, but all of a sudden cooled down to the bottom of the gauge, so they
figured it fixed itself, and attempted to drive another 35 miles to the
story. They didn't make it.

K

Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Kevin]

On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 06:24:40PM -0400, Mitch Haley wrote:
 TV reporters are expected to be smart enough to drive a five speed?

Amazing, isn't it? Until they started buying the explorers, almost all the
vehicles were clutches. Even more amazing is that they didn't go through
clutches like they were going out of style.

K

Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Rich Thomas]

I hope their hair and makeup was not messed up in the atrocity or was 
it a crisis or a disaster?


Back to you, Bob...

--R

Mitch Haley wrote:


Kevin wrote:
 


Friend of mine works for a TV station. I stopped by the station one day,
and noticed that one of the XJ's was gone, and asked him about it. Apparently
a reporter spidered the head (think cracks that look like a spider web)
going up a steep hill. XJ wasn't worth fixing, it was a 90 with over 240k
on it, four banger five speed, but before that, needed *NOTHING* but brakes,
tires, oil, and gas since new - station was just waiting until it costed them
money to off it.
   



TV reporters are expected to be smart enough to drive a five speed?

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Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Don]

Its interesting when people die ... give me dirty laundry. 

On 7/18/05, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I hope their hair and makeup was not messed up in the atrocity or was it
 a crisis or a disaster?
  
  Back to you, Bob...
  
  --R
 
  
  Mitch Haley wrote: 
  Kevin wrote:
  
  
  Friend of mine works for a TV station. I stopped by the station one day,
 and noticed that one of the XJ's was gone, and asked him about it.
 Apparently
 a reporter spidered the head (think cracks that look like a spider web)
 going up a steep hill. XJ wasn't worth fixing, it was a 90 with over 240k
 on it, four banger five speed, but before that, needed *NOTHING* but brakes,
 tires, oil, and gas since new - station was just waiting until it costed
 them
 money to off it.
  
  TV reporters are expected to be smart enough to drive a five speed?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

o

Trampas wrote:


Her's is a 420SEL

Regards,
Trampas  
  
 


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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:57 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

ignition coil?  On a 300SD?

Trampas wrote:



Well the ignition coil was my fault. I made an engine monitor which I


hooked


up to her car to test. Thus I taped into the negative side of coil to
measure tachometer. Well the wires for engine monitor ran beside seat and
chafed such that the coil wire shorted to ground. This heated up coil and
caused premature failure of coil. FYI the engine monitor can be seen at
http://www.sterntech.com/pulsar200.php 


I have not heard the end of that one yet as than in the manual for the
engine monitor I recommend placing a low amperage fuse in the tachometer
sense wire such that if the wire shorts as it did on her car it will blow
fuse and engine will still run. 


I am also to blame for the valve body as that I was the one who rebuilt


the


transmission last, but that was about 20k miles before that problem
happened. 


I am also to blame for the brushes as that I did not know to check them. I
have discovered that they tend to wear out at 170k miles and have kept
several other people from similar fate, but... 


Now the water pump, I might have to blame Mercedes, there was no noise


leaks


or anything. Going down interstate at 70MPH and it locks up solid, burnt
both belts off in matter of seconds. However since it was full of coolant


we


were able to get off at next exit and call for tow truck. Working on cars
for over 20 years and it is the only water pump I have ever seen just lock
up. I have seen vanes rust off, vanes come disconnected from shaft, etc


(on


non Mercedes) but never one lock up with out leaking or bearing making
noise, etc.

Regards,
Trampas 
 



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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:14 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

Why would the ignition coil fail on a 126?

The wife started out with our 89 560SEL, but she blew it up, so she has 
had to go from car to car, blowing them all up as she goes, I cant keep 
up with it all.


Trampas wrote:



New head is much cheaper than new wife. 


Cars break and we love to fix them... Sometimes wifes do not understand


the


love we have with the cars and why we want to drive them. 


My problem is that my wife before we were married drove a Honda Accord,


for



the last 5 years she has driven a W126. It was funny when we were dating


she



drove my 300SD for a couple of weeks when her parents need her car.
Afterwards she got into her Honda drove it around block, parked it got


back



in the 300SD and sold the Honda for $1000 while saying something about it
being a tin box or tin coffin.  


Now looking to replace my old diesel and she wants a new car which breaks
less often. Her car has broken four times in 5 years, once the water pump
locked up on the interstate with us, once the brushes in the alternator,
once the valve body in transmission stuck and would not engage


transmission,



and once when the ignition coil failed. So now she wants a newer car which
will be more reliable, keep in mind her car is in mint condition but is 18
years old and 200k miles. 


I suggested a 1991 560SEL, but it looks like a minivan is in our future. I
wonder how long it will take for her to remember that not all cars are
W126's. 


Regards,
Trampas 



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Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

well the head is/was screwed anyways, no other problems though.

Steve MacSween wrote:





someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:






I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to
have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground.
There was none.  Cant argue with a woman.



LoL, oh bless your soul for trying. But it can't be her fault, it's ALL


THAT




DAMN CAR'S FAULT (etc.).

Shame on you, Kaleb, for not giving her a PERFECT car to drive.

Seriously, hope she did not pooch the motor too badly.

Mac


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RE: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Royce Engler]

Trampas commented sagely...

New head is much cheaper than new wife. 

BTDT...he is correct in so many ways...

Royce Engler
1985 300TD Turbo 265K 

Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Ed Booher]

On 7/16/05, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Why would the ignition coil fail on a 126?
 
 The wife started out with our 89 560SEL, but she blew it up, so she has
 had to go from car to car, blowing them all up as she goes, I cant keep
 up with it all.
 

Kaleb, looks like it's time to learn some minor circuit tracing and
electronics skills. Fix up some circuits that will BUZZ very
ANNOYINGLY when the gauges do what they aren't supposed to, like peg
at red line. Promise you, you'll find out about things much much
quicker.

---Now---
Hus: Was this light on while you were driving?

Wife: (contrite and confused looking) Of course not, it must have
just come on.

--After Audible Circuit Condition Safety Interlock Installation-- 
Wife: (visibly pissed off) The damn car is BUZZING at me, my ears are
RINGING, fix it NOW!

Hus: Ah yes, driving without coolant again I see.

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[MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

So regina gets  home in the SDL that has a possible bad head/gasket as 
it had coolant dissappearing somewhere, no overheating or anything.  We 
had to leave again right away, i get in and it smells hot.  I glance 
over at the temp guage, the damn thing is pegged, the coolant light is 
on. CRAP.  So I slowly let the radiator cap off, it pukes steam for 
probably 5 minutes before all the pressure is gone.  Crap.  Put more 
coolant in it, with cap off is sometimes(most of the time) flows out. 
Crap.  Well, if the head was not screwed before it sure  is now.  Lucky 
thing I have a completely rebuilt #17 head to pick up in a couple of 
weeks for $700.  Looks like the car is probably off the road for a 
while.  So now I either need to rush the 380SE euro conversion to the 
road, or see what the heck is wrong with the 560.  The engine is ready 
to pull out of the 380 and the euro 5.0 is sitting on the garage just 
ready to go right in.  Maybe if I work hard I can get it done this weekend.

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Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

I turned off the engine, let the pressure off, restarted the engine then 
added the coolant.  It was not pegged anymore but still running way way 
too hot.  It may not have been filled up all the way, I will mess with 
it some more here in a little bit.  She said the light was not on and 
the temp was not hot, the car was in the driveway running less than 1 
min.  I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to 
have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground. 
There was none.  Cant argue with a woman.


Steve MacSween wrote:


someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I glance 
over at the temp guage, the damn thing is pegged, the coolant light is

on. CRAP.  So I slowly let the radiator cap off, it pukes steam for
probably 5 minutes before all the pressure is gone.  Crap.  Put more
coolant in it, with cap off is sometimes(most of the time) flows out.
Crap.  Well, if the head was not screwed before it sure  is now.



Okay, but I always understood that unless you think the coolant has
completely leaked out, the best thing to do is to leave the car running,
open the hood, and turn on the heater as high and hot as you can and try to
lower the temps a bit before you switch off and try to put in more coolant.

Now would be a good time to ask if this is partly or completely true, as I
have never had to deal with a full-scale meltdown like this one, only
engines running close to the red.

Mac


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Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Steve MacSween]

someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to
 have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground.
 There was none.  Cant argue with a woman.

LoL, oh bless your soul for trying. But it can't be her fault, it's ALL THAT
DAMN CAR'S FAULT (etc.).

Shame on you, Kaleb, for not giving her a PERFECT car to drive.

Seriously, hope she did not pooch the motor too badly.

Mac

Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Why would the ignition coil fail on a 126?

The wife started out with our 89 560SEL, but she blew it up, so she has 
had to go from car to car, blowing them all up as she goes, I cant keep 
up with it all.


Trampas wrote:

New head is much cheaper than new wife. 


Cars break and we love to fix them... Sometimes wifes do not understand the
love we have with the cars and why we want to drive them. 


My problem is that my wife before we were married drove a Honda Accord, for
the last 5 years she has driven a W126. It was funny when we were dating she
drove my 300SD for a couple of weeks when her parents need her car.
Afterwards she got into her Honda drove it around block, parked it got back
in the 300SD and sold the Honda for $1000 while saying something about it
being a tin box or tin coffin.  


Now looking to replace my old diesel and she wants a new car which breaks
less often. Her car has broken four times in 5 years, once the water pump
locked up on the interstate with us, once the brushes in the alternator,
once the valve body in transmission stuck and would not engage transmission,
and once when the ignition coil failed. So now she wants a newer car which
will be more reliable, keep in mind her car is in mint condition but is 18
years old and 200k miles. 


I suggested a 1991 560SEL, but it looks like a minivan is in our future. I
wonder how long it will take for her to remember that not all cars are
W126's. 


Regards,
Trampas 
 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:46 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

well the head is/was screwed anyways, no other problems though.

Steve MacSween wrote:



someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to
have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground.
There was none.  Cant argue with a woman.



LoL, oh bless your soul for trying. But it can't be her fault, it's ALL


THAT


DAMN CAR'S FAULT (etc.).

Shame on you, Kaleb, for not giving her a PERFECT car to drive.

Seriously, hope she did not pooch the motor too badly.

Mac


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RE: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

[Trampas]

Well the ignition coil was my fault. I made an engine monitor which I hooked
up to her car to test. Thus I taped into the negative side of coil to
measure tachometer. Well the wires for engine monitor ran beside seat and
chafed such that the coil wire shorted to ground. This heated up coil and
caused premature failure of coil. FYI the engine monitor can be seen at
http://www.sterntech.com/pulsar200.php 

I have not heard the end of that one yet as than in the manual for the
engine monitor I recommend placing a low amperage fuse in the tachometer
sense wire such that if the wire shorts as it did on her car it will blow
fuse and engine will still run. 

I am also to blame for the valve body as that I was the one who rebuilt the
transmission last, but that was about 20k miles before that problem
happened. 

I am also to blame for the brushes as that I did not know to check them. I
have discovered that they tend to wear out at 170k miles and have kept
several other people from similar fate, but... 

Now the water pump, I might have to blame Mercedes, there was no noise leaks
or anything. Going down interstate at 70MPH and it locks up solid, burnt
both belts off in matter of seconds. However since it was full of coolant we
were able to get off at next exit and call for tow truck. Working on cars
for over 20 years and it is the only water pump I have ever seen just lock
up. I have seen vanes rust off, vanes come disconnected from shaft, etc (on
non Mercedes) but never one lock up with out leaking or bearing making
noise, etc.

Regards,
Trampas 
  
 

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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 1:14 PM
To: Mercedes mailing list
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL

Why would the ignition coil fail on a 126?

The wife started out with our 89 560SEL, but she blew it up, so she has 
had to go from car to car, blowing them all up as she goes, I cant keep 
up with it all.

Trampas wrote:

 New head is much cheaper than new wife. 
 
 Cars break and we love to fix them... Sometimes wifes do not understand
the
 love we have with the cars and why we want to drive them. 
 
 My problem is that my wife before we were married drove a Honda Accord,
for
 the last 5 years she has driven a W126. It was funny when we were dating
she
 drove my 300SD for a couple of weeks when her parents need her car.
 Afterwards she got into her Honda drove it around block, parked it got
back
 in the 300SD and sold the Honda for $1000 while saying something about it
 being a tin box or tin coffin.  
 
 Now looking to replace my old diesel and she wants a new car which breaks
 less often. Her car has broken four times in 5 years, once the water pump
 locked up on the interstate with us, once the brushes in the alternator,
 once the valve body in transmission stuck and would not engage
transmission,
 and once when the ignition coil failed. So now she wants a newer car which
 will be more reliable, keep in mind her car is in mint condition but is 18
 years old and 200k miles. 
 
 I suggested a 1991 560SEL, but it looks like a minivan is in our future. I
 wonder how long it will take for her to remember that not all cars are
 W126's. 
 
 Regards,
 Trampas 
  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
 Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2005 12:46 PM
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn women and the 300SDL
 
 well the head is/was screwed anyways, no other problems though.
 
 Steve MacSween wrote:
 
 
someone claiming to be [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I tried to explain how it was impossible for all the coolant to
have gone bye bye that quick without being spewed all over the ground.
There was none.  Cant argue with a woman.


LoL, oh bless your soul for trying. But it can't be her fault, it's ALL
 
 THAT
 
DAMN CAR'S FAULT (etc.).

Shame on you, Kaleb, for not giving her a PERFECT car to drive.

Seriously, hope she did not pooch the motor too badly.

Mac


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