Re: [newbie] firewall required ?
philomena wrote: I've been following some of the firewall posts and have read some How-tos, but there is something I'm not clear on. I don't have a network at home, just a single PC, but its connected via DSL, so its always on and has a static IP. Is this setup open to attack ? There is a risk, yes, especially with a static IP. And, if I should setup a firewall, do I need to get a second PC for that, or can a purely software based firewall be configured on my one machine ? Firewalls are actually always "purely software" =) You can get firewall devices, but they are still just computers running software. Firewall layers are of benefit even on a stand-alone machine, because the firewall filter examines incoming packets before they are even allowed up the network stack - so yes, you could look into setting up ipchains or something on your machine if you were worried about attack. Beware, though, there are pitfalls -- firewall rulesets are complicated, and you can very easily turn a working setup into a non-working (albeit recoverable) one. It's not hard to accidentally deny packets you *want* to see. Be thorough, and read through the documentation carefully. It's worth the effort. The docs I've read all seem to start with the assumption that there is more than one machine available. That's because that's the most common scenario. -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] Num Lock
First, make sure you have numlock-1.0-7mdk installed. Next, open kpackage and find the numlock package (System / Configuration / Boot and Init). Single click on the package and look at the 'properties' tab to verify that you have this version installed. Next look at the 'File list' tab and you'll see a list of where the different files relevant to that package have been installed; you should see an entry that says /usr/X11R6/bin/enable_X11_numlock If you don't see this package, then you either don't have the correct version or somehow the file was corrupted when you downloaded; that program was specifically added to the last version. If you would like to get emails on the latest packages and updates, go to the Mandrake home page and navigate to the developer area and subscribe to the changlog list. I can verify that the program does exist, because I just installed it about a week or two ago and it works great. Let me know how it works out, Mike "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Michael Holt wrote: If you installed the latest version of the numlock program from the site listed below, enable_X11_numlock should automatically be installed in the directory /etc/X11R6/bin I've installed the said Numlock rpm, and it hasn't had any impact. My Numlock key resolutely ignores this script. What do I need to do to make it work, or is this specific to my hardware? (btw, the aforementioned X11 program is *not* included in the RPM, at least not the release RPM). -Stephen- -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Num Lock
This link should get you that file. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/numlock-1.0-7mdk.i586.rpm Seve -Original Message- From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Num Lock First, make sure you have numlock-1.0-7mdk installed. Next, open kpackage and find the numlock package (System / Configuration / Boot and Init). Single click on the package and look at the 'properties' tab to verify that you have this version installed. Next look at the 'File list' tab and you'll see a list of where the different files relevant to that package have been installed; you should see an entry that says /usr/X11R6/bin/enable_X11_numlock If you don't see this package, then you either don't have the correct version or somehow the file was corrupted when you downloaded; that program was specifically added to the last version. If you would like to get emails on the latest packages and updates, go to the Mandrake home page and navigate to the developer area and subscribe to the changlog list. I can verify that the program does exist, because I just installed it about a week or two ago and it works great. Let me know how it works out, Mike "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Michael Holt wrote: If you installed the latest version of the numlock program from the site listed below, enable_X11_numlock should automatically be installed in the directory /etc/X11R6/bin I've installed the said Numlock rpm, and it hasn't had any impact. My Numlock key resolutely ignores this script. What do I need to do to make it work, or is this specific to my hardware? (btw, the aforementioned X11 program is *not* included in the RPM, at least not the release RPM). -Stephen- -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[newbie] Cannot telnet to my box
Hi, Can anyone help with this problem ? I have installed Mandrake 6.5, standard installation. On reboot just after install I find that I cannot telnet to the box from any other unix/linux box. I can however telnet to other boxes from the newly installed box. Also rsh to the the box gives an error in messages that state that access was denied. My hosts.allow file has no entries, I've tried adding entries to allow everything but no joy. Any help appreciated Thanks Graham Graham Moore Computer Services Manager Solid State Logic Ltd Tel: 01865 842300 Fax: 01865 841673 ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **
Re: [newbie] Num Lock
Oops! I guess I should have included that link, thanks for adding. Mike Sevatio Octavio wrote: This link should get you that file. ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/numlock-1.0-7mdk.i586.rpm Seve -Original Message- From: Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] Num Lock First, make sure you have numlock-1.0-7mdk installed. Next, open kpackage and find the numlock package (System / Configuration / Boot and Init). Single click on the package and look at the 'properties' tab to verify that you have this version installed. Next look at the 'File list' tab and you'll see a list of where the different files relevant to that package have been installed; you should see an entry that says /usr/X11R6/bin/enable_X11_numlock If you don't see this package, then you either don't have the correct version or somehow the file was corrupted when you downloaded; that program was specifically added to the last version. If you would like to get emails on the latest packages and updates, go to the Mandrake home page and navigate to the developer area and subscribe to the changlog list. I can verify that the program does exist, because I just installed it about a week or two ago and it works great. Let me know how it works out, Mike "Stephen F. Bosch" wrote: Michael Holt wrote: If you installed the latest version of the numlock program from the site listed below, enable_X11_numlock should automatically be installed in the directory /etc/X11R6/bin I've installed the said Numlock rpm, and it hasn't had any impact. My Numlock key resolutely ignores this script. What do I need to do to make it work, or is this specific to my hardware? (btw, the aforementioned X11 program is *not* included in the RPM, at least not the release RPM). -Stephen- -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The Penguins are coming!!! Michael Holt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] take off your mailing list
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[newbie] lots of crashes???
Hello everyone... I have installed Mandrake 7.0 a week ago... I just have a small question.. I heard things about Linux like "Rock Solid" and so... What i noted is that Mandrake 7.0 crashes just like Windows!!! Yes... Its crashes are much less than Windows! but.. It crashes!!! It crashed about 4 times this week!! (windows crashes at a rate of 3 times/day! so Linux is better!) well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) Now, the point is... I am NOT upset of all these crashes!! :) I am used to them from the old days of Windows! Windows taught me lots of things! when the system crashes, I just grin and coldly press the "Reset" button! The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) Thank you... Urs Mohamed Saad Note: All my hardware is supported under linux, in case u r wondering!! :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Mohamed, What services do you have running while these things occur? Also, are you using Mandrake 7.0-2 ? seve -Original Message- From: Mohamed Saad [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 5:21 AM Subject: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Hello everyone... I have installed Mandrake 7.0 a week ago... I just have a small question.. I heard things about Linux like "Rock Solid" and so... What i noted is that Mandrake 7.0 crashes just like Windows!!! Yes... Its crashes are much less than Windows! but.. It crashes!!! It crashed about 4 times this week!! (windows crashes at a rate of 3 times/day! so Linux is better!) well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) Now, the point is... I am NOT upset of all these crashes!! :) I am used to them from the old days of Windows! Windows taught me lots of things! when the system crashes, I just grin and coldly press the "Reset" button! The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) Thank you... Urs Mohamed Saad Note: All my hardware is supported under linux, in case u r wondering!! :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] Cannot telnet to my box
Hi, Can anyone help with this problem ? I have installed Mandrake 6.5, standard installation. On reboot just after install I find that I cannot telnet to the box from any other unix/linux box. I can however telnet to other boxes from the newly installed box. Also rsh to the the box gives an error in messages that state that access was denied. My hosts.allow file has no entries, I've tried adding entries to allow everything but no joy. Any help appreciated Thanks Graham Graham Moore Computer Services Manager Solid State Logic Ltd Tel: 01865 842300 Fax: 01865 841673 I think its the same problem I had with Mandrake 7.0: unlike other distributions, there are two telnet rpms: "telnet-server" and "telnet- client" and only the client is installed in an standard installation. After you installed the server rpm, uncomment the following line in "/etc/ inetd.conf": telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd in.telnetd Then make sure you allowed access to telnet in "/etc"hosts.allow": in.telnetdxxx.xxx.xxx.xxx Should work then. Ove
Re: [newbie] Fetchmail
Hello All, Trying to set up fetchmail - this is my .fetchmailrc file: poll mail.uk2.net protocol pop3 user "t" password "x" However when I run fetchmail --check it says 'no mailservers have been specified' Anyone? Glen OK, Im really no expert to this, but I have some ideas: 1) You have to add "is [localuser]" at the end of the line so that fetchmail knows for which user on the box the mail is. 2) perhaps you must write "pop3" in big letters (POP3), but I dont think so. The line would look like this now: poll mail.uk2.net protocol POP3 user "txxx" password "x" is "Glen" 3) Where did you put ".fetchmailrc", and do you try to fetchmail as user or root? If you put it in the root-directory, only root (or scripts with root privilegs) can use it, and if a user tries to fetch mail, hell get this "no mailservers" error message. You could test if it makes a difference if you copy the file into the users home directory. I would suggest, however, that you keep the file in "/root" and add the line for fetchmail in your dialout- script (once you got it to work). Cheers, Ove
Re: [newbie] Problems
On Thu, 13 Apr 2000, Ove Peter wrote: Some networking problems: I am hooked to my campus ethernet network. While running windows, I get tremendous throughput loading pages, doing ftp, etc..now in netscape in linux, I am getting throughput no higher than 3.5k/sec and then it starts dropping, and stalls out..goes back up to 3.5/3.6 and drops slowly to 3.0, 2.9,2.8..etc then stalls out.. any ideas? I am using an AMD K6-II 350 overclocked to 400, 128 megs SDRAM, an SMC EtherEZ 8416 NIC, mandrake 7.0 I think thats a Netscape related problem. Actually Im so fed up with Netscape that I dont use it anymore... Question: when installing Mandrake and networking, it asked for the type of NIC I had...well my card type (above) wasn't listed so I choose SMC Ultra...do you think it has anything to do with using this driver rather than one for my NIC that's more exact? I checked SMC's website and I believe that it has a driver for my specific card...or am I being stupid? Valjean My guess is the driver is not the source for your speed problem, although I really dont know about the differences between those NICs. But- IF SMC have a correct driver on their website- why not get it and try it out? Ove
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Mohamed Saad wrote: Hello everyone... I have installed Mandrake 7.0 a week ago... I just have a small question.. I heard things about Linux like "Rock Solid" and so... What i noted is that Mandrake 7.0 crashes just like Windows!!! Yes... Its crashes are much less than Windows! but.. It crashes!!! It crashed about 4 times this week!! (windows crashes at a rate of 3 times/day! so Linux is better!) Wow..Windows crashes 3 times a day?? What are you doing with it?? I run Windows 98 in a business and leisure environment..I find if I give it a little TLC once a week (Clean out old folders, ditch any cached stuff I don't need, de-frag..all while I'm sleeping!!) it rarely gives me any problems. The only tim I get problems is when I've caused it by trying to make it do something it can't. I can't say anything about Linux yet..I'm still at the 'playing with it' stage..though I've noticed that Netscape does tend to like to hang around, even when you try and close it down!! Are there any options to Netscape for (decent) web browsing? I never liked Nutscrape..I came to the PC around the time IE4 hit the streets, and I've always found it a lot easier to use Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Get the M14 milestone build of Mozilla from www.mozilla.org. It's much faster than Netscape and really pretty stable. Then if you're feeling really cool, download the Sullivan skin from www.mozillazine.org Woohoo! dave andy barnes wrote: snip Are there any options to Netscape for (decent) web browsing? I never liked Nutscrape..I came to the PC around the time IE4 hit the streets, and I've always found it a lot easier to use Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Mohamed Saad wrote: well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! well that means your linux still worked and not crash. just one application crashed, it was X problem. KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" next time try to log from another console and kill the X. Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) try to reconfigure your X server. run Xconfigurator or XF86setup. make sure you choose properly The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) sure linux is ROCK solid. my school server runs with linux and it have 2 year uptime now. -- Rib During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly.
[newbie] That address for the mozilla fonts..
Can someone please re-post it, as I've lost all my mail while I've been re-formatting all my drives!! Is it an easy job to install them?? Let me re-phrase that..is it easy for a new Linux user?? Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Since it's the weekend, :o) rant on Linux is very stable and beats windows all over the place. But, until the Linux community gets this web browser "crap" resolved, to me, Linux ain't worth the CD it is shipped on. 90% of my usage is surfing the internet. IE 4 has problems, and 5 is worse, but Netscape dying at random is unacceptable. M14 sucks and Netscape 6, well, ain't much better. rant off And we thank you for your support.. Original Message Follows From: Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:50:30 +0700 On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Mohamed Saad wrote: well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! well that means your linux still worked and not crash. just one application crashed, it was X problem. KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" next time try to log from another console and kill the X. Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) try to reconfigure your X server. run Xconfigurator or XF86setup. make sure you choose properly The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) sure linux is ROCK solid. my school server runs with linux and it have 2 year uptime now. -- Rib During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [newbie] 3c905 problem fixed!
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian Heather wrote: From: "Brian Heather" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 22:13:33 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [newbie] 3c905 problem fixed! I uninstalled Mandrake to install RedHat, and I was having some troubles and needed to wipe out the partitions first...so I decided to try Mandrake one more time...however, this time I didn't do the "recommended" install, I did the "custom/Normal" install ...and the system found the card and it was up and running on the first reboot. Now I have the same card. I tried the custom/normal install first. And my card *wasn't* detected. Just what are you going to do? But some kind people have posted and emailled me directly, with some possible solutions. All I have to do now is find the time. After all, it's only meant to be a hobby -- +44 (0)1922 641221/448905 07808 403927 Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:21 +0100 Win98 You Are The Needle In My Arm
[newbie] LILO help can't reboot
At the start-up screen, instead of LILO we only see LIL and there it freezes. What could we have done wrong and how can we fix it? *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com ***
[newbie] dumber than a door nail
Okay, I successfully gunzipped some tar.gz files, now I can't access the sub-folders in them. I tried to use tar -zvf without luck, and tar -z all sorts of other combinations. what am I doing wront? Not enough hours in the day to learn all this stuff! *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com ***
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Hi folks I lurk much of the time here but do have to comment on the Windows vs Linux debate. Couple comments/observations from our 4 systems at home and two at work: Use both Windows and Linux (Mandrake 7.0) extensively (I like Chevys AND Fords too) Never crash Windows 98 or NT - perform routine file maintenance and defrags Crash X-Windows and Netscape in Linux frequently Netscape really does suck do not like font selection in KDE/Linux but need to learn how to load new ones As far as productivity goes, I am much more productive with Windows for my type of work. I am an AutoCAD/GIS specialist, also do desktop publishing and web page design, and photography. Linux is very fun and I could use it all the time if it were up to par with the selection of programs available for Windows, font selection, and had a good CAD/GIS program. Lets keep an open mind here folks. Just my .02. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since it's the weekend, :o) rant on Linux is very stable and beats windows all over the place. But, until the Linux community gets this web browser "crap" resolved, to me, Linux ain't worth the CD it is shipped on. 90% of my usage is surfing the internet. IE 4 has problems, and 5 is worse, but Netscape dying at random is unacceptable. M14 sucks and Netscape 6, well, ain't much better. rant off And we thank you for your support.. Original Message Follows From: Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:50:30 +0700 On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Mohamed Saad wrote: well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! well that means your linux still worked and not crash. just one application crashed, it was X problem. KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" next time try to log from another console and kill the X. Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) try to reconfigure your X server. run Xconfigurator or XF86setup. make sure you choose properly The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) sure linux is ROCK solid. my school server runs with linux and it have 2 year uptime now. -- Rib During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
[newbie] Lexmark /CAD frustration
Okay, I can't print in beautiful, beautiful, 1200 dpi color anymore, and I can't make money with my cad program anymore. I've already reformatted my entire hard drive for Linux and kissed them all goodbye. See? I was really committed to this! I knew you could load Mandrake from windows and partition for Linux, but my question is, now that Linux is my only OS, can I repartition and load Windows on that? Is there an order of operations I'm violating that Linux doesn't like? (Linux devotees - please don't hate me-I can't afford to buy another decent CAD program right now, and it's extra income) Thanks! *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com ***
[newbie] Dead Simple One
What is the quickest, easiest and safest route to get into root when you are logged on as a user, and is it possible to do so without cutting your ISP connection? Cheers Andy
Re: [[newbie] Dead Simple One]
If you just want to do a few things as ROOT ie: install an RPM, open a Konsole, and type "su" then root's password. If you want to do a bunch of things, probably logout and back in as ROOT. HTH Jaguar andy barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the quickest, easiest and safest route to get into root when you are logged on as a user, and is it possible to do so without cutting your ISP connection? Cheers Andy The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
Re: [newbie] Dead Simple One
On Sat, Apr 15, 2000 at 03:30:25PM +0100, andy barnes wrote: What is the quickest, easiest and safest route to get into root when you are logged on as a user, and is it possible to do so without cutting your ISP connection? "su -", and enter the root password when prompted. Shouldn't bohter your dial-up connection at all. dan
Re: [newbie] dumber than a door nail
A tar.gz file is a gzipped tar file. A tar file is a "tape archive" file, which basically is an uncompressed kind of archive, meaning: it contains a lot of files, but doesn't compress them. So basically what happens upon creating a tar.gz file is: all input files get put into one big file, and then this file gets compressed to occupy less space. What you have done is: you've unzipped the tar.gz file, and thus extracted the tar file that was inside. However, you didn't extract anything from within that tar file. In order to extract all files from a tar.gz file you must use the following: "tar -zxvf blabla.tar.gz" (you forgot the x). If you've previously unzipped a tar.gz file, and now only have the tar file, just do "tar -xvf blabla.tar" and then remove the tar-file (after you checked everything went ok!) See the "tar" manpage for more info. On Apr 15 Leanne Leith wrote: Okay, I successfully gunzipped some tar.gz files, now I can't access the sub-folders in them. I tried to use tar -zvf without luck, and tar -z all sorts of other combinations. what am I doing wront? Not enough hours in the day to learn all this stuff! *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com *** -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Belgiumtel:(++32) 89/856533 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org The little critters in nature; they don't know they're ugly. That's very funny... A fly marying a bumble-bee... Sign the petition at http://www.libranet.com/petition.html Help bring us more Linux Drivers
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Well folks, I've had the opposite experience from most of you with Mandrake 7. I've yet to have it crash, which is not so with Win 98 SE. I have a new (three week old) Athlon 600 with 192 megs of memory and two 13.5 hd's Windows on the first, Linux on the second. A couple of things I have noticed. a. When I installed an ATI Rage Pro 128 AGP graphics card on the pc (a slower, Diamond Stealth PCI card came with it) Linux immediately picked up the card and formatted itself for the new graphic settings (a feature I understand is new with Mandrake 7). On the other hand, I am still trying to get Windows 98 to recognize the d card. It wants to set itself as a low resolution generic vga PCI graphics card and won't budge. b. The SETI program takes about 25 hours to run through an iteration on Windows 98, and just about 12 hours on Linux, even when I use the xseti graphics interface (which I don't really care for). c. After working on word processing, spreadsheet, web browsing and seti on Windows for about 12 hours my system memory is down to about 65% but I seem to have no such problem on Linux. d. Linux will only recognize the memory above 64 megs if I log in at Lilo with "Linux mem =192mb" -- even though I have added that line manually to the lilo.conf file. That seems strange (any suggestions?). I am yet to have a problem with Netscape 7 (though I had many with earlier versions), but I do agree that Linux will be of much more use when programs like Quicken and Turbo Tax are ported to it. However, I fear that (as much as I dislike Microsoft and Mr. Gates) we are just tasting what the rest of the PC world will taste if that company is broken up and there is no de facto standard OS. I am new to Linux but I remember the pre-microsoft days when there was Apple and dozens of CPM computers, each with their own flavor and disk format. It was pure H... getting software that would work on any given PC. A vendor might have the Kaypro version but not the Eagle version, and you couldn't read disks for another pc without an elaborate and expensive and not always dependable translation program. Hence, many companies didn't put out really good software until MS/PC DOS hit the market. All in all I really like Linux, but then my primary occupation is as a writer and the Star suite by Sun Microsystems is pretty adequate for that. Enough of MY opinion. Does anyone have a proposed fix for my memory recognition problem? Charles Wackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi folks I lurk much of the time here but do have to comment on the Windows vs Linux debate. Couple comments/observations from our 4 systems at home and two at work: Use both Windows and Linux (Mandrake 7.0) extensively (I like Chevys AND Fords too) Never crash Windows 98 or NT - perform routine file maintenance and defrags Crash X-Windows and Netscape in Linux frequently Netscape really does suck do not like font selection in KDE/Linux but need to learn how to load new ones As far as productivity goes, I am much more productive with Windows for my type of work. I am an AutoCAD/GIS specialist, also do desktop publishing and web page design, and photography. Linux is very fun and I could use it all the time if it were up to par with the selection of programs available for Windows, font selection, and had a good CAD/GIS program. Lets keep an open mind here folks. Just my .02. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since it's the weekend, :o) rant on Linux is very stable and beats windows all over the place. But, until the Linux community gets this web browser "crap" resolved, to me, Linux ain't worth the CD it is shipped on. 90% of my usage is surfing the internet. IE 4 has problems, and 5 is worse, but Netscape dying at random is unacceptable. M14 sucks and Netscape 6, well, ain't much better. rant off And we thank you for your support.. Original Message Follows From: Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:50:30 +0700 On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Mohamed Saad wrote: well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! well that means your linux still worked and not crash. just one application crashed, it was X problem. KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" next time try to log from another console and kill the X. Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a
[newbie] Where do Programs Go?
When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you?? OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even if you can't see an icon to click.. When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after it's installed. Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
That's odd... I had the same problem w/ Netscape when I was using Mdk6.1 . But since going to 7.0-2Mdk, netscape has zapped only twice. And this timeline goes back to the day 7.0-2mdk was made available for download. Seve -Original Message- From: steve harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 7:03 AM Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Since it's the weekend, :o) rant on Linux is very stable and beats windows all over the place. But, until the Linux community gets this web browser "crap" resolved, to me, Linux ain't worth the CD it is shipped on. 90% of my usage is surfing the internet. IE 4 has problems, and 5 is worse, but Netscape dying at random is unacceptable. M14 sucks and Netscape 6, well, ain't much better. rant off And we thank you for your support.. Original Message Follows From: Ribbo [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] lots of crashes??? Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 20:50:30 +0700 On Sat, 15 Apr 2000, Mohamed Saad wrote: well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! well that means your linux still worked and not crash. just one application crashed, it was X problem. KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" next time try to log from another console and kill the X. Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) try to reconfigure your X server. run Xconfigurator or XF86setup. make sure you choose properly The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) sure linux is ROCK solid. my school server runs with linux and it have 2 year uptime now. -- Rib During the voyage of life, remember to keep an eye out for a fair wind; batten down during a storm; hail all passing ships; and fly your colors proudly. __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Well folks, I've apparently had the opposite experience from most of you with Mandrake 7. I've yet to have it crash, which is not so with Win 98 Second Edition OEM version I have a new (three week old) Athlon 600 with 192 megs of memory and two 13.5 hd's Windows on the first, Linux on the second. A couple of things I have noticed. a. When I installed a ATI Rage Pro 128 AGP graphics card on the pc (a slower, Diamond Stealth PCI card came with it) Linux immediately picked up the card and formatted itself for the new graphic settings (a feature I understand is new with Mandrake 7). On the other hand, I am still trying to get Windows 98 to recognize the d card. Win 98 wants to set itself as a low resolution generic vga PCI graphics card and won't budge. b. The SETI program takes about 25 hours to run through an iteration on Windows 98, and just about 12 hours on Linux, even when I use the xseti graphics interface (which I don't really care for). c. After working on word processing, spreadsheet, web browsing and seti on Windows for about 12 hours my system memory is down to about 65% but I seem to have no such problem on Linux. d. Linux will only recognize the memory above 64 megs if I log in at Lilo with "Linux mem =192mb" -- even though I have added that line manually to the lilo.conf file. That seems strange (any suggestions?). I am yet to have a problem with Netscape 7 (though I had many with earlier versions), but I do agree that Linux will be of much more use when programs like Quicken and Turbo Tax are ported to it. However, I fear that (as much as I dislike Microsoft and Mr. Gates) we are just tasting what the rest of the PC world will taste if that company is broken up and there is no de facto standard OS. I am new to Linux but I remember the pre-microsoft days when there was Apple and dozens of CPM computers, each with their own flavor and disk format. It was pure H... getting software that would work on any given PC. A vendor might have the Kaypro version but not the Eagle version, and you couldn't read disks for another pc without an elaborate and expensive and not always dependable translation program. Hence, many companies didn't put out really good software until MS/PC DOS hit the market. All in all I really like Linux, but then my primary occupation is as a writer and the Star suite by Sun Microsystems is pretty adequate for that. Enough of MY opinion. Does anyone have a proposed fix for my memory recognition problem? Charles Wackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [newbie] Where do Programs Go?
Hi Andy, Boy, it's great to see that you're thinking the same as me! :) I've just installed Linux myself - it's a steep learning curve!! I too am used to the Windows way, although I love DOS etc. Always been a DOS person - Started with it many years ago so as far as the command line, it ain't that bad. :) Wouldn't mind keeping in touch for moral support? :) Glen At 16:29 15/04/00 +0100, andy barnes wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ~~|| Glen M. Chambers ||~~ Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [[newbie] Dead Simple One]
Jaguar wrote: If you just want to do a few things as ROOT ie: install an RPM, open a Konsole, and type "su" then root's password. If you want to do a bunch of things, probably logout and back in as ROOT. HTH Jaguar andy barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the quickest, easiest and safest route to get into root when you are logged on as a user, and is it possible to do so without cutting your ISP connection? Cheers Andy The Dogma chased the Stigma, and was hit by the Karma. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. In KDE there are also two pretty nice utilities that you can use to do root stuff, and still being an normal user. They are under Utilities -- File Manager... (superuser) and Utilites -- Terminal (superuser) The first opens an kfm being root, so you can browse your hole filesystem do what you want. The second is an konsole being root. I use them all the time and I had never to logout and login as root again, really nice tools. Hope you appriciate them as well !! P.
Re: [newbie] LILO help can't reboot
I get this once in awhile too. Just boot up with your boot diskette. Then login as usual. Open up the console as superuser and just enter "lilo". That alone should correct your problem. I'm still curious as to why this happens. If anyone of you guys know... please share. Is it something that Windurz is doing? Seve -Original Message- From: Leanne Leith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 7:15 AM Subject: [newbie] LILO help can't reboot At the start-up screen, instead of LILO we only see LIL and there it freezes. What could we have done wrong and how can we fix it? *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com ***
[newbie] remove
remove -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of andy barnes Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Where do Programs Go? When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you?? OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even if you can't see an icon to click.. When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after it's installed. Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] Where do Programs Go?
andy barnes wrote: When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you?? OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even if you can't see an icon to click.. When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after it's installed. Cheers Andy In the rpm packager, kpackage or other, you can look where the computer installs the different files, by clicking on the File list thing on top of the package description. Nornally the executable fiiles will be installed in /usr/bin, /usr/local/bin or /usr/share/bin. The documentation in /usr/doc, /doc or thelike. In Linux there are no directories where all the stuff of one programm is put. The binaries of all programms are put togther as are the docs etc. A bit confusing when comming from a Micr$oft Window$, but if you have to administrate the hole stuff, its a lot easier!! P.
Re: [newbie] Lexmark /CAD frustration
Run a search on "LinuxCad". There are also others out there. I may self have been looking. Just now beginning to attempt my first linux setup. - Original Message - From: "Leanne Leith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: [newbie] Lexmark /CAD frustration Okay, I can't print in beautiful, beautiful, 1200 dpi color anymore, and I can't make money with my cad program anymore. I've already reformatted my entire hard drive for Linux and kissed them all goodbye. See? I was really committed to this! I knew you could load Mandrake from windows and partition for Linux, but my question is, now that Linux is my only OS, can I repartition and load Windows on that? Is there an order of operations I'm violating that Linux doesn't like? (Linux devotees - please don't hate me-I can't afford to buy another decent CAD program right now, and it's extra income) Thanks! *** chickclick.com http://www.chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickmail.com sign up for your free email. http://www.chickshops.com boutique shopping from chickclick.com ***
Re: [newbie] Running A Program
"ChOPpY C. Chipper" wrote: Hi! I'm new in LiNuX, so could somebody tell me how to a program that I made in g++? I have no idea how to run programs, except for the ones in the "KDE Menu".Thanks A Lot! -Julien Well, at least one way is to open a terminal window into the directory the program you want to run is in, find the executable probram and type "./program_name" right after the prompt. (of course substitute the actual program name and leave out the quotes. In my case I run the SETI program by the following cd /home/seti then the home/seti prompt comes up and I type ./seti and hit return and the program starts. But you may want to look at any readme files or documentation that came with the program to make certain that will work with your particular program. good luck Charles W.
Re: [newbie] Where do Programs Go?
Andy, Before we start... let's drift back to windows for a second... For installations, you just click the install file and it pretty much does everything for you. RPM files are also capable of this - IF the author included the icon, documentation, and a Kmenu entry. This is not always the case. I'll assume you're using KDE. You can do all of this logged in as a regular user. Activate the Drakeconf icon on your desktop. It will ask you for the superuser password. Once in, you will see the button for Kpackage. Use Kpackage to open your RPM file. When you are installing with RPM files, the Package Manager (Kpackage) will list every file that it's going to put into your system. If you didn't see it, you can have Kpackage search for it (in Kpackage). Then you can look at the file list. Generally, the executables go into "/usr/bin" or "/usr/bin/local". The documentation usually drops into "/usr/doc". Also, check for an icon file (not always there). You may also see file entries for your Kmenu. If the RPM came with all the goodies, you can just right-click your kpanel and choose "restart". Check your Kmenu for the installed application. If you don't see a menu entry, you can make one. Open up File Manager as superuser. Select "Edit GlobalApplications". It will list the files and folders responsible for your Kmenu layout. In windows, it's like right-clicking the start button and choosing "Explore" so you can edit the "start" menu. Back to Linux... So go into your desired folder and right-clicknew-application. Fill in the blanks, choose your icon, and click okay. Restart your Kpanel and it should show up on your Kmenu. Setting up MIMEs... While in File Manager as superuser, select "Edit GlobalMIME Types" and there you go. Between this and "Edit GlobalApplications" you should be able to link file types with their corresponding applications. Ask again if I forgot to answer something. Seve -Original Message- From: andy barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Where do Programs Go? When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you?? OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even if you can't see an icon to click.. When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after it's installed. Cheers Andy
[newbie] Mozilla - How to use it once downloaded.
Hi all, Please forgive me for this possible simple question; I've just download Mozilla - I've extracted the tar/gz file no problems - everything went into a directory called 'package' along with sub-directories err, assuming you do call them this in LINUX :) Err, I'm stuck - What now? :) Help . . . . Glen
Re: [newbie] Where do Programs Go?
Sevatio Octavio wrote: Andy, Before we start... let's drift back to windows for a second... For installations, you just click the install file and it pretty much does everything for you. RPM files are also capable of this - IF the author included the icon, documentation, and a Kmenu entry. This is not always the case. I'll assume you're using KDE. You can do all of this logged in as a regular user. Activate the Drakeconf icon on your desktop. It will ask you for the superuser password. Once in, you will see the button for Kpackage. Use Kpackage to open your RPM file. I just installed kxicq..I downloaded it from tucows..and that was in RPM format. I activated drakeconf, got to kpackage, then it tells me I need to be logged in as root to use kpackage!! When you are installing with RPM files, the Package Manager (Kpackage) will list every file that it's going to put into your system. If you didn't see it, you can have Kpackage search for it (in Kpackage). Then you can look at the file list. Generally, the executables go into "/usr/bin" or "/usr/bin/local". The documentation usually drops into "/usr/doc". Also, check for an icon file (not always there). You may also see file entries for your Kmenu. If the RPM came with all the goodies, you can just right-click your kpanel and choose "restart". Check your Kmenu for the installed application. Star Office did this, but this (admittedly, only my second RPM installation) didn't. I've opened the programme by finding it in the /usr/bin, but I don't really want to be messing about like that every time I want to open ICQ (Which I use A LOT!) I'll go through the rest of your message when I get back from MacDonalds!!! Thanks for your help, Seve Cheers Andy Seve -Original Message- From: andy barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, April 15, 2000 8:32 AM Subject: [newbie] Where do Programs Go? When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you?? OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even if you can't see an icon to click.. When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after it's installed. Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
First, let me tell you that I have several linux box at home, and that one of them is running for two months, without a reboot. And still I could say that it's running for one year, since the reboots are ONLY due to electricity failures or hardware upgrades!! You have to realize that your linux system REALLY rarely crashes. Your problems come from the applications you use under linux. And I'm sure that most (if not all) of your system hangs could have been resolved by telneting from another computer, and killing the faulty processes. But that beeing said, I must admit that I could not help you with your problems, as I don't use (and so don't know) KDE. In fact, I hate KDE. I'm sure it can help newbies, but it's an enourmous (and often useless) loss of system ressources and memory. And I already underwent problems such as yours. That's what made me give it up. Try to use enlightenment (or even windowmaker). I'm sure you will have a lot fewer problems with those ones. Mohamed Saad wrote: Hello everyone... I have installed Mandrake 7.0 a week ago... I just have a small question.. I heard things about Linux like "Rock Solid" and so... What i noted is that Mandrake 7.0 crashes just like Windows!!! Yes... Its crashes are much less than Windows! but.. It crashes!!! It crashed about 4 times this week!! (windows crashes at a rate of 3 times/day! so Linux is better!) well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) Now, the point is... I am NOT upset of all these crashes!! :) I am used to them from the old days of Windows! Windows taught me lots of things! when the system crashes, I just grin and coldly press the "Reset" button! The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" I was just wondering!! :) Thank you... Urs Mohamed Saad Note: All my hardware is supported under linux, in case u r wondering!! :) __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
rant on [...] until the Linux community gets this web browser "crap" resolved, to me, Linux ain't worth the CD it is shipped on. [...] rant off I hate to say it (again), but this is absolutely correct. To gain widespread acceptance any Linux distribution *MUST* have a good browser, a good email package, and (oh no! here it comes!) support Winmodems, ... ugh, Linmodems! Anything short of this and it's a sideshow in the big market place. Sure, you'll get people like me stuffing it into server rooms to do all kinds of stuff. But we'll never tell the pointy haired boss. Michael Linux user #162430 InterNIC handle MRB7 (Yeah, that's right. Number 7!)
[newbie] Mozilla Fonts in Netscape
Something weird is going on here. I downloaded the Mozilla fonts for Netscape and followed the instructions for installing them per www.mandrakeuser.org. The next time I start Netscape I can see the Mozilla fonts and everything is wonderful. The problem is, the next time I log back in I don't have the Mozilla fonts. They're not listed, I can't select them, and the only way I can get them back is by doing another xset fp+. Any ideas on how I can get these fonts to permanently stick? -Necro
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
Mohamed Saad wrote: I heard things about Linux like "Rock Solid" and so... It is -- when properly configured. What i noted is that Mandrake 7.0 crashes just like Windows!!! Yes... Its crashes are much less than Windows! but.. It crashes!!! It crashed about 4 times this week!! (windows crashes at a rate of 3 times/day! so Linux is better!) well... here are the crashes! KDE: I was opening 2 windows of Netscape. And suddenly, the whole system freezed! I just could move the mouse! but i can't do anything! I had to press ctrl+alt+backspace to log out! and it worked! KDE: I pressed Log Out, the screen turned black, and i couldn't Do any thing! i had to press "Reset" Xfce3: It was my first time to even see it! i just used it for 15 seconds!! :) i pressed the button with the penguin, and the whole system freezed!! I had to press "reset" It looks like your X server is crashing. This problem is with X, though I don't have the first idea where to look for a solution. I don't think the problem is with the Linux kernel. Did killing the X server fail? Gnome: I was just moving around... It suddenly made a GPF, and told me that this may be due to a bug, and they gave some email to report at! (this is not really serious, as it didn't really crash the system!) This is Gnome "crashing", not Linux. Gnome is not as stable as KDE. Now, the point is... I am NOT upset of all these crashes!! :) I am used to them from the old days of Windows! Windows taught me lots of things! when the system crashes, I just grin and coldly press the "Reset" button! Not a desirable thing if you are using the ext2 filesystem =( The point is... Why do people say that linux is "ROCK SOLID"?? it is NOT "rock solid"! It is just," more solid than Windows!" It is rock solid when configured properly. You shouldn't be experiencing this. Note: All my hardware is supported under linux, in case u r wondering!! :) So it all works? What is your hardware, by the way? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] lots of crashes???
andy barnes wrote: Mohamed Saad wrote: Hello everyone... I have installed Mandrake 7.0 a week ago... I just have a small question.. I heard things about Linux like "Rock Solid" and so... What i noted is that Mandrake 7.0 crashes just like Windows!!! Yes... Its crashes are much less than Windows! but.. It crashes!!! It crashed about 4 times this week!! (windows crashes at a rate of 3 times/day! so Linux is better!) Wow..Windows crashes 3 times a day?? What are you doing with it?? That's more common than you think. Windows has crashed with me with about that frequency since I "upgraded" to 98. Sometimes 5 times =) -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] remove
yes you have to be in root, unless you have set your nornal login to superuser equivalent (which you shouldnt do) As for where the program installs, I would assume that it installs in whichever directory you are currently in, I actually wanted to use rpms at first, but the tar.gz is better, simply download your files in tar.gz format and at the prompt type tar -xvzf filename and it'll install in whichever directory you are in. )( Jason Carson [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.home.net/jaroca ICQ: 35152653 )( - Original Message - From: "Michael E. Dosier" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 11:42 AM Subject: [newbie] remove remove -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of andy barnes Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2000 10:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [newbie] Where do Programs Go? When you install an RPM, you have to be in root, don't you?? OK..when you install, where does Linux put this program.. Bear with me as I'm used to a Windows environment, where it puts it either onto your C drive or into Program Files on C drive, and you kind find an .exe even if you can't see an icon to click.. When you revert to user, I can't work out how to run a program after it's installed. Cheers Andy
Re: [newbie] dumber than a door nail
Leanne Leith wrote: Okay, I successfully gunzipped some tar.gz files, now I can't access the sub-folders in them. I tried to use tar -zvf without luck, and tar -z all sorts of other combinations. what am I doing wront? I thought you couldn't boot. ? -Stephen-
Re: [newbie] dumber than a door nail
Leanne Leith wrote: Okay, I successfully gunzipped some tar.gz files, now I can't access the sub-folders in them. I tried to use tar -zvf without luck, and tar -z all sorts of other combinations. what am I doing wront? Not enough hours in the day to learn all this stuff! Hours are required, but reading documentation and maybe a good book, like Linux in a Nutshell, or Unix in a Nutshell, and Essential Systems Administration, would surely be very helpful. Take the book where ever you go and when you have time, then read. You'ld find this would make a major difference with respect to the learning curve. However, I don't know why you're applying z in the options to tar. To extract, use x. If you're not trying to extract, then what are you trying to do? I'm not sure what you mean by sub-folders. Are you talking about directories or files? Directories are files in Linux and Unix, because everything is a file in Linux and Unix, but here I mean directories and files as per the more common understanding. Do you want to extract the entire contents of the archive, or only some directories and or files, but not all? Assuming you want to extract the entire contents of the archive, the following explains how to do this. If you only want to extract some, then we'll wait for your response. Complete extraction: Suppose you have file .tar.gz. To untar this, do the following: gunzip .tar.gz or, if it's the only .gz file in the directory, then simply gunzip *.gz Then, to untar, do tar xvf .tar or, if it's the only .tar file in the directory or you want all .tar files in the directory untar'd, then tar xvf *.tar That's x (for e-x-tract), instead of z. Be careful with these steps, though. At the gunzip level, if you have another .tar file in the directory and it's not the same, then you could clobber that file by gunzip'ing the .gz one. Similarly, untar'ing a .tar could clobber files. You need to be aware of this and where you're uncompressing and untar'ing. One thing you can do once the file is unzipped or uncompressed is to run tar with the options tvf tar tvf (maybe tf would be adequate, but I have no need to worry about the effects of v and therefore always use it to ensure verbose output). This lists the contents of the .tar file, like a toc (table of contents). When you use tvf, check the directory paths of the files in the archive. The paths will either be absolute or relative. If the directory paths are relative, then you could create a temporary directory, copy the .tar file to this directory and untar the file there. Then, you can examine the files there, or copy them to where you want them. This probably wouldn't be bad practice at first, for people who haven't used tar before. Once you're comfortable with the tool, then you'll be more sure of what you're doing when you extract in directories where existing files might get clobbered (overwritten or replaced). If the directory paths of the files in the archive are absolute, then it doesn't matter where you are, that's where the extraction will place those files. However, there may be a tar option to force local extraction, even in this case, instead of by the absolute paths (I think there is, but will let you check, if this is relevant to your task). Check the tar man page for this man tar You need to get used to man; therefore, might as well give it a try, now, before actually doing any extraction. (Of course, that's assuming man and the man pages are installed, which you'll immediately find out when you run man for tar. Should be installed. If not, then install the man pages - probably the man-*.rpm file.) If you don't use an option to force local extraction for an archive in which the paths of the files are absolute, then that's where the files will go, and you need to be sure that any files already existing in those paths and included in the archive, if clobbered, will be what you want for the result (replacement). There's probably a tar option for prompting on a file by file basis, that is, for the files being extracted and for which there's already a "copy" or instance in the paths the files will be extracted to. Check the man page for tar. It's very simple; therefore, don't panic and just read carefully without being so nervous that you make understanding more difficult. People seem to sometimes let their nerves get the better of them. Be calm and read carefully. There's no need to panic, until it's too late, and by then, it's probably too late to bother wasting energy panicing anyway. If you're not working on a critical system, then take mistakes as part of the learning curve, graciously, and, while you're at it, gratuitously. If, however, you're working in a mission critical environment or on a mission critical system, then tell your boss he or she is an idiot. Joking. If
[newbie] Problems with DOS filesystems
Never mind -- I found the original e-mail Would the person who asked for my help with the DOS filesystems please send me another e-mail? I've had a look at your "query" file and I have some answers for you. -Stephen-
[newbie] Mounting 2nd CD
I have a CD rom and CD RW.. I cannot get a read of the CDRW. Both Drives are identified correctly, and both have icons on the desktop. Any ideas? Cheers Andy
[newbie]
Below is an except from my message log. I cannot get ppp dialin to work. (Dialout works fine, as you can see..) I have had no problems in the past with Redhat 5.x andppp dialin and dialouts. Now, I just switched to Mandrake, and I get this wierd error about the peer not authorized to use remote address. Could this be something with the pap-secret file? Is there any documentation on this error (I have been unable to find any) Suggestions? also, what is the modproble errror (on the first line) regards, matt Apr 15 13:35:38 ranch modprobe: can't locate module char-major-108 Apr 15 13:35:38 ranch pppd[14565]: pppd 2.3.10 started by ppp, uid 502 Apr 15 13:35:38 ranch pppd[14565]: Using interface ppp0 Apr 15 13:35:38 ranch pppd[14565]: Connect: ppp0 -- /dev/ttyS0 Apr 15 13:35:47 ranch pppd[14565]: Peer is not authorized to use remote address 209.122.161.135 Apr 15 13:35:48 ranch pppd[14565]: Connection terminated. Apr 15 13:35:48 ranch pppd[14565]: Connect time 0.2 minutes. Apr 15 13:35:48 ranch pppd[14565]: Sent 495 bytes, received 407 bytes. Apr 15 13:35:48 ranch pppd[14565]: Exit. __ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com
[newbie] CD-RW UDF?
Hello all, I just spent the afternoon hunting up all the infos, HOWTO's and man pages that weren't installed on my initial installation. Spent quite a time with the CDROM,CD-R HOWTO's. That left me with another question or two. I can read CD's CD-R's, but no CD-RW's does that mean that they are automatically in the UDF format?? Or are they merely not finished tracks? My ultimate goal is to use the CD-RW as a big floppy to archive data to. I hope "dump" and "restore" will use the CD-RW someday, if I can figure out all the ins and outs. Thanks for any help! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: [newbie] Dead Simple One
andy barnes wrote: What is the quickest, easiest and safest route to get into root when you are logged on as a user, and is it possible to do so without cutting your ISP connection? go to the command line type "su" w/o the quotes. enter the password off you go. Dan
Re: [newbie] Lost video setup, stuck in black hole
At lilo TAB and type: linux init 3 vga=ask then choose whatever mode and you will bott in console mode. X. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some how I lost my video setup!!! I can go through the boot up sequence all the way up to about where the graphical login menu should come up, then screen goes black. Is there a command I can use to get into the text boot mode in order to get back into the system to setup up monitor again?? Thanks John lost in a black hole
[newbie] ByeCycle
I think this has gone on long enough, now I need ot get to work and see if there are any things I may have picked up from this website. Too many letters to read each day to have much time to work on this system. Have much to learn and NO way to do it with all of the mail. Thanks very much for all of the messages and comments, too bad some were not what should have been here. More Professionalism is needed to do the GOOD that is needed. don I thought I knew that I knew what I thought But now I know that what I thought I knew Isn't what I know I think I thought I knew. YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.
RE: [newbie] ByeCycle
Quick question.. I am VERY new to linux. I just installed mandrake 7.0 It detected my mouse as a 'default mouse' I have an intellimouse explorer pro and would like to use the scroll bar. Ho do I change it to the correct mouse. It also didn't detect my Creative Labs AWE64, is there any way to use this card or will I have to get another card? Also, I downloaded netscape 4.7 for linux and don't know how to install it. Can anyone help me? Thanks, Rich Foreman
Re: [[newbie] Lost video setup, stuck in black hole]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some how I lost my video setup!!! I can go through the boot up sequence all the way up to about where the graphical login menu should come up, then screen goes black. Is there a command I can use to get into the text boot mode in order to get back into the system to setup up monitor again?? Thanks John lost in a black hole At the lilo prompt, type "linux 3" w/o quotes. That will boot you into runlevel 3 which is terminal mode (no gui). Mike "Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy." -Benjamin Frankilin Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.
