[newbie-it] problemi con ghostview e riconoscimento device x11alpha

2000-09-09 Thread Alfredo Loreto



Salve a tutti,
mi chiedevo se qualcuno di voi potesse 
aiutarmi.
Io ho installato Mandrake 7.0 e ho necessita' di 
lavorare con file poscript.
Ho riscontrato un problema con ghostview che non si 
presenta invece utilizzando la red hat, e cioe' non appena cerco di aprire un 
file postscript mi da due errori che elenco di seguito:

1) Unknow Device X11alpha

2) Error: Postcript interpreter failed in main 
window

premetto che ho installato tutti i vari pacchetti 
relativi a ghostcript and interpreti vari e che ho provato a leggere lo stesso 
file su la stessa versione di gv che se ricordo bene e' la 3.58 su red hat e lo 
apre perfettamente, ho fato eseguire la stessa prva con lo stesso file da altri 
amicie il risultato e' lo stesso, gv su Mandrake da lo stesso tipo di errore e 
su red hat no.

A questo punto mi chiedevo se qualcuno di voi ha 
avuto lo stesso problema e lo ha risolto oppure se potete suggerirmi come fare a 
risolerlo. non posso cambiare da Mandrake a Red hat che forse sarebbe la 
soluzione migliore perche' a parte che mi piace piu' Mandrake, ho installato una 
serie di programmi e sarebbe tropo complicato rifare tutto se non forse 
impossibile.

Ringrazio fin d'ora chiunque volesse darmi una 
mano

alfredo


Re: [newbie] Installation of Extension CD

2000-09-09 Thread John Rye


Why oh why do I/we keep seeing double postings??? Is something
about my configuration???



John Rye wrote:
 
 Budiono Tjia wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I am new to linux and I really need you all to help me
  out for the Installation problem.
 
  I have Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe. and during the
  installation, I only can install the first CD
  (Installation CD) when the computer ask me to change
  the CD to Extension CD, I can't do it because the
  CDROM can't be open. So right now I want to install
  the extension CD. How can I do that? I also have
 
 There was some discussion on this issue some time back,
 you could check the archives for details, I think there
 was some delay involved while the installation process completed
 some other task - how long did you wait?
 
 I use an old Pentium 133 and often have to wait - coffee break -
 I return and carry on
 
  problem for setting up my pci modem so that I can
  connect to the Internet. If some of you have the
  experience, would you please tell me how to set the
  PCI modem?
 
 At risk of getting flammed!!!
 
 You need to supply more information...
 
 Type of modem, ComPorts, Irq, etc. It's well nigh impossible to
 help you without basic info.
 
 For my part Every Internal modem I've tried out has been tested
 on my 386dx40 running Windows 3.11 BEFORE I paid the dollars -
 if it didn't work there it wasn't going to work anywhere else.
 
 Basically if the packaging for the modem suggests it's designed
 for Windows 95 or 98 make very sure that YOU the user can set it
 up the way YOU want not the way the manufacturer thinks you want
 it...
 
 Mostly if you go for an external modem you are much less likely
 to have any hassles.
 
  Your answer will be very appreciated.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Budiono
 
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Re: [newbie] VCD player?

2000-09-09 Thread Hellmut

Hmm... I'm having 256 Mb of RAM, but I remember when I only had 64 (On my
K6-2 450) MpegTV was running fine. But the older version is running better
here than the one which comes with 7.1 Maybe you should try the old version
from 7.0?


 I tried using it but I only get a small size screen and the frames rate
 is only aroung 18. Not to compare to commercial win programs like XingMPEG
 which runs at full screen with frames rate up to 30, maybe, Linux needs a
 little bit more RAM as mine is only 64 Mb. But one thing, which I'am quite
 sure is Linux seems to be easting a lot of my RAM because whenever I run
 KDE, which in order to use MpegTV , I see only 7 Mb of my RAM free. Well,
 I'am sure all of those utilized RAMs are probably put into good use like
 networking stuff.

 Hey, thanks for the tip.

 From: Hellmut [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] VCD player?
 Date: Mon, 04 Sep 2000 21:46:57 +0200
 
 Hi!
 
 MpegTV plays VCDs.
 Cheers!
 
 
 
   I need a program to play VCD's".dat" files.
  
   Thanks in advance.
  
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Re: [newbie] Minicom Program

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Barry Premeaux wrote:

Thanks for the setup info.  Getting minicom up and running is something
I have wanted to do, but never got around to.  One problem I am having
is after running through the setup while in su, I can run it just fine
as su, but not as user.  I get :

minicom:  cannot open /dev/ttyS1:  Permission denied

I have been trying to figure out where to run chmod to get user access.  
I already have user x permission on minicom.  How do I clear the
permission problem?

Interestingly enough this happens to me too, as I have tried it just
now. (I don't have a modem but I should be able to set this up anyway.)
I hope someone else can give you a hint on the permissions for this. I
can't get it to work either.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] What's everybody's favorite email package?

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Romanator wrote:

Any thoughts on what your favorite email package is and why?

Pine.
No mouse needed, fast, no HTML problems, highly configurable.
Exactly what I want.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Code Warriors Wanted !

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Vic wrote:

What the heck is a "nbsp" ?

It is a NonBreaking SPace. Something inside an HTML page that is inserted
to allow for more spaces in a row. Regular browsers will take out extra
spaces. This is a trick to add another space.

I always wonder why people send webpages to mailing lists...
Paul

On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 !doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
 html
 Dearnbsp; forum; I'm interested in speaking with any experienced programmers
 who are familiar with "Porting" a Windows-Based program to a Linux-based
 one, whether or not "Wine" would have to be used or not. My office uses
 a 16 bit program which it currently the only POS standing between anbsp;
 totally Linux office, and a half and half environment. This program is
 designed to access an on-line binary database, and then downloads these
 binary files to be merged with one large data file.nbsp; I'd really like
 to find a way to switch it over to Linux, without using some sort of Windows
 emulator, so if anyone's interestednbsp; innbsp; having a new project,
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Re: [newbie] Hard Drake version

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Craig Westerman wrote:

How do I find what version of Hard Drake I have installed?

Thanks

It tells you when you run it. Otherwise look in Help- about

Paul

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Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Dacia and AzureRose wrote:

My experience was also that DSL is faster in linux
then in windows.  We had a LAN with three computers on

My ISDN line is also faster in Linux than in windows.

Paul

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Re: [newbie] compatibility question?

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Merida, Humberto wrote:

Is mandrake compatibal with Windows NT? I have an NT box at work and I want
to make it a dual boot.

  Humberto

Mandrake is an OS, like Win NT. They do not have anything more in
common. If you have a computer, you can run mandrake on it.
Just READ things before you begin.

Paul

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[newbie] lib.so.conf

2000-09-09 Thread Jon Roig

Hey...

Could someone post the standard mandrake lib.so.conf file? I. deleted
mine. (it's a long story)

thanks...
-- jon





Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.

2000-09-09 Thread John W

I have used both cable modem and DSL. I prefer the cable modem because it is 
faster in my area. The drawback of DSL is the further you are from the main 
office or switching cabinet the slower your speeds will be.I must have been 
to far away only averaged 80KB downloads with DSL.
I average 300-400KB downloads. (Yes KB and not Kb).Cox@home uses dhcp but my 
IP has been static for around 8 mos.You have to have a legitimate host and 
server name such as host#.city1.home.com for you box and names for your mail 
servers,Default gateway IP and DNS IP. These should be provided when the 
tech does the install unless they have a self install option in your area.I 
have never noticed any real bandwidth draw down but I live in Phoenix and 
the technology is well established.I will give DSL credit for better 
security in that you are on an isolated line up to the phone company.Using a 
decent firewall and not sharing your files can keep you fairly safe on 
either setup.
Regards,
John


From: Patti Wavinak [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.
Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 14:31:12 + (GMT)

Personally I would go with DSL if it is available in your area. My reason
for this is the main reason a person gets cable or DSL is because of the
fast connection and being on 24/7.  The more subscribers on a cable line
the slower it will access (and download) depending on the amount of
people that are "on" at that time.

We have our DSL line through Pacbell and they do not support Linux (if
you should have a problem) and I believe that most of them will say that
they don't support Linux. I have figured out the reasoning for this and
that is because Linux has a much faster bandwidth than Windows does. I
tested this out when downloading the 7.2 Beta -- on Linux it downloaded
at an average of 148 K/sec when doing it on Windows it was 52K/sec BIG
DIFFERENCE!!

Just throwing in my $.02 worth (add California tax 8.5%) giggle

Patti
Registered Linux User #184611

  Original Message 

On 9/8/00, 4:15:35 AM, Greg Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding
Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.:


  Setting up a cable modem to work in linux is usually as easy as setting
up a
  network card.

  However, apparently depending on your local provider's implementation,
there
  are a couple things to keep in mind:

  Most cable providers use DHCP to assign the IPs to attached hosts, but
some
  use Static assignments.If they use DHCP make sure you have the latest
DHCPD
  or pumpd, whichever you plan to use.

  Most cable companies seem use the MAC address of the cable modem itself
for
  LAN identification, but a few are actually using the MAC address of your
  internal network card. This will cause problems if you need to change 
the
  network card in your computer.

  Check with your cable provider, and try to get as much information out 
of
  them as possible. It may not be easy...the support techs I've had to
speak
  with at optonline don't seem to have a clue about networking issues. The
big
  solution is to turn off the computer, turn off the modem, and then turn
both
  back on. Oh, and then try using WinIPConfig.exe in windows (they hardly
even
  undestand the output of the command line "ipconfig /all".

  --Greg

  - Original Message -
  From: "Robin Regennitter" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   I am thinking about getting cable modem as my internet connection and 
I
   wonder if there would be any problem with getting connected with 
Linux.
  Has
   anyone got cable modem that would like to share with me.  Problems or
not?
   Like some advice before getting it.
  
   Rob
  
  


 
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Re: [newbie] rpmfind.net

2000-09-09 Thread Joan Tur

Paul escribió:

 On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Joan Tur wrote:

 I'm having problems while trying to download rpms through
 rpmfind.net...  is it just me??  8-?

 You can go to the french mirror at fr.rpmfind.net I am sure that makes it
 easier for you in Spain.
 I am in Holland, I use that one also.

Maybe it's too busy now?  Or i'm trying to download something that's not yet
downloadable??

I've tryed the french ftp and the same happens.  Trying to download
ClanLib-0.4.4-7mdk.i586.rpm and all XFree 4.0.1 packages i have no luck -no
one starts downloading-.

And i'm downloading mp3s without any problem!  -not from there, of course!-
;-)


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Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

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 someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got
 pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there

Aaaah yes...I remember...thank you. I'm up to speed again. It was
late lastnight and I was having trouble putting the peices together.  :)
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Re: [[newbie] USRobotics modem problems]

2000-09-09 Thread Michael Scottaline

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kandace Little) wrote:
 I can not get this modem working wit Linux not sure
 why though, It works just find when running windows.
 It is a sportster 33.6 ENT FAX modem and I find I like
 the little thing ;).
 
 The problem I am having is that when I go to call out,
 it finds the modem says it is ready then starts to 
 initialize and goes no father. My modem is in COM
 port 1, I used dev/ttyS0 instead of dev/modem. I also
 tried it the other way as well. It once said that it was
 setting speaker volume but stopped there.
 
 Speaker does not mean that much to me anyway since
 I can not seem to get my sound going hehe.. Dam sound
 it built onto the Mobo it is ESS and SB compatible but
 still does not seem to work.
 
 Anyway and help would be great. Thanks!
 
 Stephen
 
==
Try this Stephen (until someone gives you a more permanent fix):
When you call up kppp, click on setup - modem - Query Modem.
Regardles of the gibberish you get back, close and then hit connect.
Worth a try ;o)
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Re: [[newbie] Serial Port]

2000-09-09 Thread Michael Scottaline

"Philip Ferguson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Which one of the millions of entries in my /dev directory is my serial
port?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Phil
=
ttySx (I think ;o) )
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Re: [[newbie] compatibility question?]

2000-09-09 Thread Michael Scottaline

"Merida, Humberto" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

==
 Is mandrake compatibal with Windows NT? I have an NT box at work and I want
 to make it a dual boot.
 
   Humberto
==
Absolutely!  I think you *may* have to let then NT booter do the booting for
you, although GRUB might also be able to boot NT.
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Re: [[newbie] USRobotics modem problems]

2000-09-09 Thread John Rye

Michael Scottaline wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kandace Little) wrote:
  I can not get this modem working wit Linux not sure
  why though, It works just find when running windows.
  It is a sportster 33.6 ENT FAX modem and I find I like
  the little thing ;).
 
  The problem I am having is that when I go to call out,
  it finds the modem says it is ready then starts to
  initialize and goes no father. My modem is in COM
  port 1, I used dev/ttyS0 instead of dev/modem. I also
  tried it the other way as well. It once said that it was
  setting speaker volume but stopped there.
 
  Speaker does not mean that much to me anyway since
  I can not seem to get my sound going hehe.. Dam sound
  it built onto the Mobo it is ESS and SB compatible but
  still does not seem to work.
 
  Anyway and help would be great. Thanks!
 
  Stephen
 
 ==
 Try this Stephen (until someone gives you a more permanent fix):
 When you call up kppp, click on setup - modem - Query Modem.
 Regardles of the gibberish you get back, close and then hit connect.
 Worth a try ;o)
 Mike

=

Just a thought - reading quoted part of your message ...

Isn't the mouse assigned Com 1 regardless of being serial or USB.
Would Kandace not be better off to configure the modem to Com 2 ??

I had the same problem with an external til I swapped the cables around.

Cheers





Re: [[newbie] USRobotics modem problems]

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

John,

You're correct. The correct place to have this modem is /dev/ttyS1, set the 
control to none, and the speed to 115000. that should get this Sportster 
working just fine.





Re: [newbie] netscape segmentation fault

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall


 I guess it's time for me to chirp in giggle.  I use Star Office for

Thanks for chirping Patti. 

 both mail and browser and have found it extremely useful...it is more
 like a mini-operating system than a office suite. I need to use Netscape

Exactly, which is the thing that turns me off.  I'm using the
spreadsheet and word processor but don't want to become too dependent
upon it as it's just not designed properly in my opinion.  I'll take a
look at the mail tool though and see whether I find it superior to
Netscape.


Cheers --- Larry




Re: [newbie] Installation of Extension CD

2000-09-09 Thread L. H. LOO

PMJI, I thought I am the only person who is receiving duplicates !

At 09-09-2000 06:05 PM, you wrote:
Why oh why do I/we keep seeing double postings??? Is something
about my configuration???
John Rye wrote:







Re: [newbie] Installation of Extension CD

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall


 Why oh why do I/we keep seeing double postings??? Is something
 about my configuration???

If there is John, then I've got the same problem.  I suspect it's a
server problem.  Now there we go...complaining in double.

Cheers -- Larry




Re: [[newbie] compatibility question?]

2000-09-09 Thread L. H. LOO

Oses do not have compatibility _problems_, but they do have trouble to 
co-habit!






[newbie] (no subject)

2000-09-09 Thread Erik Hallsten

unsbuscribe newbie





Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall


 I agree regarding the root login - however seems that even in the GUIs
 one needs to violate the conventions now and then.

I guess my view is that the commandline has conventions and that the
GUIs are now developing them.  I only have two neurons and so I need
to use them wisely when it comes to learning sys admin.  So, I stick
with commandline control.  Probably silly but it is my way.

 I run single user here so the security issues are less of a concern,
 if I can't fix what I just stuffed up - I reload the opsys. I have

Me too but I need to protect my system from me and that's a big job
:-)

 Interface debates?? I just don't bother with them, I use KDE for my
 primary user and Icewm for my secondary (which is used for maillist

grin...UNIX has failed to enter the mainstream desktop because of
interface debates.  Linux seems to be struggling with the same
problem.  I don't worry about interface debates but I keep my eye
squarely on them as it will affect my future with Linux whether I like
it or not.  

 stuff), I find KDE does most of what I want. It's a bit slow on this

I prefer it as well, though I admit that I haven't tried everything
else.

 Probably the quirk which bugs more than any other is a form of key
 bounce from the mouse. I am partially disabled and don't have total

I'm afraid I show my Windows stripes all too often with
double-clicking apps.  I guess two is better than one but only
sometimes.

 I've posted a couple of times looking for a fix to slow the double-click
 timing, but without luck. I know there at least one other user out there
 with the same problem as I have and who wants a similar fix.

I haven't found anything like that yet.

Cheers --- Larry




[newbie] kmix

2000-09-09 Thread mcken59

Having some trouble with the settings with kmix 1.01 My system is a dual
Celeron 400 running Mandrake 7.0 . Soundcard is a SoundBlaster AWE64 isa
( sorry no more details ). Sound works fine, mostly listening to mp3's. 

The trouble is setting the options in kmix. I can select the channels to
be displayed and volume levels with no problem. But every time I restart
kmix all channels  are displayed and its at full volume ( very loud )

I have three machines running Mandrake 7.0 with different Soundblaster
cards and the they all 
do the same thing. What am I doing wrong.

Thanks

Pat




[newbie] cable modem conexion

2000-09-09 Thread r



i´m new in the world of linux and i use a mandrake 
7.1 pentium3 533mgh 128 ram 
the question is that i use a cable modem 
conexion but i can`t conect properly 
what are the steps for a conexion my isp use dhcp 
thanks 


Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread John Rye

Larry Marshall wrote:
 
  I agree regarding the root login - however seems that even in the GUIs
  one needs to violate the conventions now and then.
 
 I guess my view is that the commandline has conventions and that the
 GUIs are now developing them.  I only have two neurons and so I need
 to use them wisely when it comes to learning sys admin.  So, I stick
 with commandline control.  Probably silly but it is my way.

Nuttin silly about it all... I keep a Console window open at all times
running Midnight Commander (Been using Norton for so many years now it's
real hard to navigate about any other way.

As for your two neurons - do you walk on yours?? Like me ??


  I run single user here so the security issues are less of a concern,
  if I can't fix what I just stuffed up - I reload the opsys. I have
 
 Me too but I need to protect my system from me and that's a big job
 :-)
 
  Interface debates?? I just don't bother with them, I use KDE for my
  primary user and Icewm for my secondary (which is used for maillist
 
 grin...UNIX has failed to enter the mainstream desktop because of
 interface debates.  Linux seems to be struggling with the same
 problem.  I don't worry about interface debates but I keep my eye
 squarely on them as it will affect my future with Linux whether I like
 it or not.
 
  stuff), I find KDE does most of what I want. It's a bit slow on this
 
 I prefer it as well, though I admit that I haven't tried everything
 else.

I've recently returned to ?nix after being burned on four occassions by
system sneakers inside of of a couple of weeks. Initially was quite
frustrated trying to find my way around - things were sufficiently
different to Altos and Sco Xenix to get me really very confused. The
confusion still arises - hence my re-install count is 29  since
April!!

Just the fact that some things are in different places. I don't have
any recent ?nix documentation - I fall back to "The UNIX Programming
Environment" by Kerningham and Pike, which I think I aquired at my first
System Admin course way back in the early 80's.
 
  Probably the quirk which bugs more than any other is a form of key
  bounce from the mouse. I am partially disabled and don't have total
 
 I'm afraid I show my Windows stripes all too often with
 double-clicking apps.  I guess two is better than one but only
 sometimes.

I'm pretty certain my hassle is a timing thing within the mouse modules.
My Windows m/c is 'adjusted' so that I have to actually press and
release twice before the double gets activated. There has to be a way
and from the disability point-of-view needs to be addressed. I no longer
have the tenacity to reverse-engineer or write modules...
 
N'er mind we'll get there
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Re: [newbie] (no subject)

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Erik Hallsten wrote:

unsbuscribe newbie

Amazing with what new ways to write it some people come up with...

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[newbie] for if grep ???

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

Hi everyone,

I am messing with a script and I run into a problem (would you otherwise
hear from me?)

The problem:

I receive a bunch of files at time. Depending on certain keywords in the
file I need to move these files to specific location.

My attempt:

for a in * ; do

if [ 'grep -cif okfiles $a  0 ' ] ; then
echo Move $a! ;
fi

done

Clearly this does not work. The grep within the if [] does not cut it. I
know the grep itself is working (-c for counting the occurence, -i for
ignoring case, and -f okfiles to use 'okfiles' as the source of correct
keywords. All files that have one of the keywords in them, listed in
okfiles, has to be moved. But the test does not work. It's probably
something simple that I miss.

I also tried 

 [ 'grep -cif okfiles $a '  0 ]
and
 [ 'grep -cif okfiles $a' ]  0

but no good. Can someone help me with this one?
Thanks!

Paul

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Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread John Rye

Larry Marshall wrote:
 
 I've seen reference to Midnight Commander but haven't tracked it
 down.  It sounds like it would serve as an intermediate between a GUI
 filewindow and doing a whole lot of cd-ing.

Just type 'mc' at your terminal prompt - it should be part of the
standard install. It's almost exactly like the Dos equiv. - a few 
shortcuts have been implemented differently - but it sure makes
navigation easy.
 
  As for your two neurons - do you walk on yours?? Like me ??
 I'll have to give that a try.

It's fun when you leave your props behind grin
 
  I've recently returned to ?nix after being burned on four occassions by
  confusion still arises - hence my re-install count is 29  since
  April!!
 
 I'm really new back to Unix myself.  Have also done a bunch of
 installs, taking a look at the various distributions, looking at
 what's installed under various conditions, and just trying to learn
 how Linux works.

I've only looked at Mandrake, I brought a copy of the Macmillan 6.5
package while in MA and NH in December, liked what I saw - I've since
moved to 7.0 - and thinking about the move to 7.1.
 
 The motivation for a bunch of this is unclear to me.  For instance,
 they've maintained the "." designation for control files for
 everything except Linux itself.  Maybe my memory is poor but it also
 seems that there is no consistency in the use of /usr/bin,
 /usr/local/bin and other directories of that ilk.

I'm not ofay with the history of Linux - I suspect that Linus
may have been avoiding copyright issues. Sure catches me still but
less and less

 Then I get
 something like Star Office, that comes as a binary and it just dumps
 itself all over the place in the location where you point it.   I'm
 whining but give me a tarball with proper paths and standard path
 designations any day.  Is it my imagination or is the Red Hat
 distribution different from Mandrake in its path locations?

I pulled Star Office from Sun in 7 tarballs way back (ver 5.1). I
do like it even if it takes an age to load up on this old beast.

RedHat/Mandrake paths?? dunno, I assumed that because L-M was a
sub/super set of RH that they'd be pretty much the same - Bit
like the difference between say a Holden Commodore and a Chevvy
Lumina - labels and trim... and both modeled off an Opel !!!

  Environment" by Kerningham and Pike, which I think I aquired at my first
  System Admin course way back in the early 80's.
 
 You were into Unix before I was.  I first started working with Unix
 when I put a Sparcstation on my desk to develop for forest service
 clients.  Quite a shock as I'd never done any multi-user OS stuff and
 the 20+ volumes of documentation that came with the machine seemed a
 sea of "stuff."  I chuckle when I see people here trying to do Linux
 without advanced reading :-)

Boy, do I remember those days - sigh...
 
 Since you've got a long history with Unix and have been into Linux
 longer than I, maybe you can advise regarding some of the graphics
 toolsets and which I should concentrate on.  I did a bunch of work
 with tcl/tk way back when but there was no QT then and Perl was just
 beginning to be developed so I never had to interface Perl with any of
 it.
 Should I want to or is writing vanilla C++ with one of the graphics
 packages the way to go?  Should I spend my time learning QT or just
 bring myself up to speed with current versions of tcl/tk?  So much to
 learn.

Problem here is that I don't think I'm qualified any longer to venture
an opinion where programming languages are concerned - too long away.

I guess the only opinion/comment I would make in this area is that
programming in whatever language is a young persons'domain for the
most part. I think many of us oldies are too set in our ways to
make the mental shifts.

I look at some of the code here and go to the fridge for a beer after
5 minutes just to stop the headhurt!

Comment - We must be about due for a flame here - something about
wasting bandwidth on reminiscing.

Cheers

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Re: [newbie] kmix

2000-09-09 Thread Roger Pithers

On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Having some trouble with the settings with kmix 1.01 My system is a dual
 Celeron 400 running Mandrake 7.0 . Soundcard is a SoundBlaster AWE64 isa
 ( sorry no more details ). Sound works fine, mostly listening to mp3's. 
 
 The trouble is setting the options in kmix. I can select the channels to
 be displayed and volume levels with no problem. But every time I restart
 kmix all channels  are displayed and its at full volume ( very loud )
 
 I have three machines running Mandrake 7.0 with different Soundblaster
 cards and the they all 
 do the same thing. What am I doing wrong.
 
 Thanks
 
 Pat

Pat,

Open up the /etc/rc.drc.local file in a text editor and add:  aumix -v 40   The
40 is the percentage and can be anything up to 100% (Thanks to Tom Brinkman for
this) Your eardrums will be very greatful!

Roger




Re: [newbie] What's everybody's favorite email package?

2000-09-09 Thread Gary

 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, "Roman" == Romanator wrote:

  Roman Hi Gary,
  Roman Mutt sounds good. I think I'll try it out.
  Roman Thanks

Roman,
You will love it.  One thing it does better than any other MUA is the
way it handles threads, which makes it perfect for e-groups. This is
one of the major differences between Mutt and Pine.  Mutt, you can set
up anything your way, and visually see threads.  You can also re-list
the mbox or mh anyway you want after you open it up, on the fly, same
for searching.  It is the most customizable MUA I have ever seen. They
also have a great help email list, which is very active. 

The best way to get into Mutt is to go on their site and download the
Muttrc file from Telsa. (I think it is in the 3rd party additions
section, or something like that) She has commented just about
everything, and makes customization extremely easy to do.  Once you
see her file, you can adapt those sections to your existing mailboxes,
i.e. directories.  You can pretty much just leave her muttrc file as
is otherwise and use it.  I can send you the colors section which will
really enhance your visual experience in Mutt (either in terminal or
X).

Like Pine, your hands will never leave the keyboard for any function
in Mutt, but once you get with the power of it, you will see the
dramatic difference. When I first started with Mutt, I knew nothing
about it, but her muttrc setup (and documentation within it) was so
good, it was easy to get going.  

-- 
Best regards,
Gary 

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Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Kathleen Dickason wrote:

The delete button is your friend...I use mine lots :)

Kathleen

Do you know how to recognize a russian keyboard? Has no ESCAPE key!

Paul

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Re: [Re: [newbie] Whats everybodys favorite email package?]

2000-09-09 Thread Michael Scottaline

Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use Pine for my personal e mail box,
 K mail for my linux mail, and Netscape mail
 to experiment and tune up the pop server.
=
I use kmail to receive mail.  It can handle multiple popmail accounts (I have
three diffeent ones), has easy to setup filters that work reasonably well, and
has been exceptionally reliable for me (although I've read comments to the
contrary from others shrug).
I typically use Pine 4.21 to sent smtp mail through my ISP (unless I'm simply
replying to mail I've just received in kmail.  then I just click the reply
button.  For this list and some others, I use different free web based
accounts.
Mike

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and dreadful idolatry took place there!"
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RE: [newbie] Video Card

2000-09-09 Thread webmaster

Would you contact me directly please with the list of video cards,
manufacturers, models, etc.  The e-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a few more questions and would like to do a follow up.

Thank you.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 2:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card


I have 3 pci cards, and 1 agp. The agp is the slowest. agp is probably
capable of going faster, but I just cant get it to go above 5, while my pci
does 60. The benchmark program I used was the setup program on screamer 2,
which runs some tests on the video card. Its agp x4

Linux is not good for gameing. Networks, internet, programing, all good. But
not gameing.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 8:08 PM
Subject: RE: [newbie] Video Card


 Excuse for asking ... but why are you suggesting PCI?

 It seems that if the board supports AGP 4x or even 2x then you can
certainly
 use the Nvidia based chipset video cards under Mandrake 7.1.  Since I'm
 jumping in the middle - maybe there was part of the thread that I
missed
 like the type of mb.

 Just curious.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Goldenpi
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 11:07 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card


 It works with most cards. Are you planing to do lots of gameing? You wont
 under linux, but if you duelboot with windows get something pci and
 accelorated. Otherwise get something pci and cheap.


 - Original Message -
 From: Jason Ashman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:43 AM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Video Card


  On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
   Anybody have any suggestions for a good Video card. I am running 7.1.
  
   Thanks,
   Chris Kelly
   Registered Linux user 185775
  --
  Get a Voodoo3 PCI, it works great for me, plus it is cheap.
 
 
  Jay
  "Every man dies, not every man really lives."
  http://www.mrsnooky.com
 
 









Re: [newbie] rpmfind.net

2000-09-09 Thread Paul

On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Joan Tur wrote:

 I'm having problems while trying to download rpms through
 rpmfind.net...  is it just me??  8-?

 You can go to the french mirror at fr.rpmfind.net I am sure that makes it
 easier for you in Spain.

Maybe it's too busy now?  Or i'm trying to download something that's not yet
downloadable??

I have tried that Clanlib thing, and that gives an error here also,
probably something wrong there. Other stuff gets here just fine. (Did not
try the Xfree 4 packages though.)

Good luck, anyway...
Paul

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Re: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread syhim77

syhim77 wrote

i like to type kpackage in command line rather than using kmenu in kde. it prevent
you from searching it in kmenu.

Larry Marshall wrote:


  I looked in the gnome and KDE menus and i don't see kpackage.is it an
  archive extraction-installation program? Is there a way to get a list of all the 
mandrake packages like in the install?

 Mandrake seems to be pushing Kpackage into the background in favor of
 its own rpmDrake.  You should be able to find kpackage on the Kmenu
 though, just deeper in the tree than normal.  In 7.1 it's under
 Configuration-Packaging-Kpackage.  Of course you can just type
 kpackage on the commandline too.

 This is one example of the dynamic nature of the GUI for Linux
 management that causes me to use this stuff in a limited way.  It'll
 be great once stabilized but it's a moving target right now.

 Cheers --- Larry





Re: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Dennis Myers

SU in a Konsole or be in root and type in "kpackage". If it is already
installed the window should pop up for you to look for files. Also you
could try "rpmdrake" to see what is installed or not installed. You can
toggle on the reverse arrows on the tool bar to get installed or
uninstalled. (Assuming you have rpmdrake installed also). Remember: Life
is good, just don't weaken.
-- 
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Re: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread syhim77

syhim77 wrote

yea...thats the good idea

Dennis Myers wrote:

 SU in a Konsole or be in root and type in "kpackage". If it is already
 installed the window should pop up for you to look for files. Also you
 could try "rpmdrake" to see what is installed or not installed. You can
 toggle on the reverse arrows on the tool bar to get installed or
 uninstalled. (Assuming you have rpmdrake installed also). Remember: Life
 is good, just don't weaken.
 --
 Dennis a registered linux user #180842





Re: [newbie] What's everybody's favorite email package?

2000-09-09 Thread Dan

Noemail, Pine, and Netscape at the moment. :-)

Dan

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Re: [Re: [newbie] Whats everybodys favorite email package?]

2000-09-09 Thread Pete Clapham

Hi, all --

I also have tried kmail for mail and have found it unsatisfactory.  Quite often it 
will hand up on a particular EMail.  The problem 
may, of course, be kppp, but I see it most with kmail.  Dare I say it, when I return 
to NT and use PMMail i never have a 
problem.  BTW, there is a chance that PMMail will be available within the forseeable 
future for Linux.

pete

On 9 Sep 00 12:29:13 EDT, Michael Scottaline wrote:

Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I use Pine for my personal e mail box,
 K mail for my linux mail, and Netscape mail
 to experiment and tune up the pop server.
=
I use kmail to receive mail.  It can handle multiple popmail accounts (I have
three diffeent ones), has easy to setup filters that work reasonably well, and
has been exceptionally reliable for me (although I've read comments to the
contrary from others shrug).
   I typically use Pine 4.21 to sent smtp mail through my ISP (unless I'm simply
replying to mail I've just received in kmail.  then I just click the reply
button.  For this list and some others, I use different free web based
accounts.
Mike

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RE: [newbie] Cable Modem.

2000-09-09 Thread Doug McGarrett

At 21:27 09/08/2000 -0400, you wrote:
That's waht my sisters boyfriend says.  He installs cable for @home.
Nevertheless, my cable is ridiculously variable.  As high as 150K and as low
as 500k on a daily swing.  Like clockwork everynight between 3 and 10pm My
conneciton is as slow as a 56k dialup.

My experience with DSL is that it is a little slower then cable is when cable
is maxing itself out but it is also dependable and consistent!


Abe

/lots of stuff snipped out/

I have noticed even with T1 at the office, the internet slows way down around
3 ~ 5 PM.  I have a feeling it's kids coming home from school and logging on
in huge numbers, but maybe I'm all wet.  I don't think it's just your cable.
(I have ADSL here, BTW, and I like it fine, but then, cable Internet's not
available here.)
--doug






Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Mwinold

normally i do unless i am dead beat tired and just trying to get rid of mail


In a message dated 09-Sep-00 10:18:27 Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is there a way you can quote which message you're replying to?
 
 This gets pretty confusing...
 
 Kathleen 




Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Jason Ashman

On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 look i apologize now can we drop this bs
-- 
I second that notion, this got way out of hand.  Let it go.

Jay
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
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Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Mwinold

i guess russians dont know the meaning of escape, to busy defecting, lol



In a message dated 09-Sep-00 11:34:21 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 
 Do you know how to recognize a russian keyboard? Has no ESCAPE key!
 
 Paul 




Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Jason Ashman

On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got 
 pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there
-- 
I have the same sarcasm problem, but in the future, you need to note the
sarcasm for people in the message, remember it is very hard to read feelings
via e-mail.  You may think you are being sarcastic, but another reader may see
it differently.

Jay
"Every man dies, not every man really lives."
http://www.mrsnooky.com





Re: [newbie] Video Card

2000-09-09 Thread lselinger



I totally dissagree ... I bought Quake 3 from Loki and it runs awsome with
no hangups and my framerates rock!

Lonny Selinger






Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread root

Larry

go into the drakconf click user addition and at the bottom you will see
icon and a down arrow. you can select the icon to use with the
user...unfortunately I don't know how to change an existing user.

Larry Marshall wrote:

 I stumbled on a "simple" thing today that had me scratching my head.
 I helped a buddy install Mandrake 7.0 today.  In doing so we set up an
 account for him (his name is Bob) and Mandrake decided to make his
 login icon a girl.  I did point out to him that it was a cute girl but
 he preferred the bald penguin as it more resembled his own dome.

 Anyone know where this info is held and how Mandrake is deciding what
 icon to use?  I'm presuming there's some sort of look up table
 somewhere as if we called him Rob he suddenly became a guy penguin :-)

 As an aside, I didn't realize until I got home that my installation
 doesn't even have icons, which suits me fine but what did I do to get
 rid of them (or lose them if that's your view)?

 Not the most pressing of Linux questions but certainly a curiosity.
 "man silly penguin icons" didn't generate any answers :-)

 Cheers --- Larry





RE: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Richard Garand

KPackage and rpmDrake aren't in the menus, there's no
configuration-Packagin, and they don't work from the console. Do i have to
re-install Mandrake?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Larry Marshall
 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing packages



  I looked in the gnome and KDE menus and i don't see
 kpackage.is it an
  archive extraction-installation program? Is there a way to get
 a list of all the mandrake packages like in the install?

 Mandrake seems to be pushing Kpackage into the background in favor of
 its own rpmDrake.  You should be able to find kpackage on the Kmenu
 though, just deeper in the tree than normal.  In 7.1 it's under
 Configuration-Packaging-Kpackage.  Of course you can just type
 kpackage on the commandline too.

 This is one example of the dynamic nature of the GUI for Linux
 management that causes me to use this stuff in a limited way.  It'll
 be great once stabilized but it's a moving target right now.

 Cheers --- Larry







Re: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Irwin

On Fri, 08 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 I used a very small install of mandrake, and now i want to add and remove
 packages. How do i do this? I also think drakconf is missing - how do i get
 it?

If you don't have kpackage or have problems, use the command line.

To list all packages:

rpm -qa 

To search for a specific package: 

rpm -qa | grep part of package name you want to look for

To uninstall something:

rpm -e package name

It's not as easy as kpackage but it'll do the job.  It won't let you 
uninstall anything without you removing dependencies first, so you can't 
break your system too badly.
-- 
--Arcana




Re: [newbie] Humor me - how can I move a currently installed OS off one platfo rm to another?

2000-09-09 Thread Irwin

On Wed, 06 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 I have finally after months of attempts got everything to install and work
 out of the box, but in desparation I installed it on a temporary machine -
 "a proof of concept" type thing.  In the next few weeks I will buy a new
 mother board and hope to move off the temporary platform to the new setup.
 I assume that I will need to re-install of the root partition but how about
 the /swap, /boot, and /home partitions?

 Also, any suggestions purchasing a socket 7 motherboard (I'm using an AMD
 K6-266)?

Why do you think you need to do a reinstall?

You can usually migrate a hard drive from one machine to another without many 
problems.  You should, if nothing else, be able to start up the machine and 
be able to do most of the stuff you normally do, with the exception of some 
hardware specific things (for example, if you changed your video-capture card 
for a non video-capture card).

You may also end up with a lot of useless software as well, but nothing on 
Linux should break.

My suggestion is to try moving the HD yourself without reinstalling, THEN 
consider doing a reinstallation.

If you do need to reinstall, you would probably want to reinstall:

/
/usr
/boot
(format swap space)

Things you can keep:

/usr/local
/home
/root


-- 
--Arcana




[newbie] Installation of extension CD

2000-09-09 Thread Budiono Tjia

Hi,

I am new to linux and I really need you all to help me
out for the Installation problem.

I have Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe. and during the
installation, I only can install the first CD
(Installation CD) when the computer ask me to change
the CD to Extension CD, I can't do it because the
CDROM can't be open. So right now I want to install
the extension CD. How can I do that? 
I have tried to install one by one using RPM command
but I got dependency error.

I also have problem for setting up my pci modem so
that I can connect to the Internet. If some of you
have the
experience, would you please tell me how to set the
PCI modem? 

Your answer will be very appreciated.

Thanks,


Budiono


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Re: [newbie] Cable Modem.

2000-09-09 Thread Greg Stewart

It's probably everyone at the office trying to avoid work the last two hours
of the day!
Where I work, this starts at 11:30am! :-)

--Greg

- Original Message -
From: "Doug McGarrett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have noticed even with T1 at the office, the internet slows way down
around
 3 ~ 5 PM.  I have a feeling it's kids coming home from school and logging
on
 in huge numbers, but maybe I'm all wet.  I don't think it's just your
cable.
 (I have ADSL here, BTW, and I like it fine, but then, cable Internet's not
 available here.)
 --doug




 
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RE: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Doug McGarrett

You could still use RPM. From a terminal window:
$ rpm -Uvh foo-2.0-1.i386.rpm
--doug

At 12:47 09/09/2000 -0500, you wrote:
KPackage and rpmDrake aren't in the menus, there's no
configuration-Packagin, and they don't work from the console. Do i have to
re-install Mandrake?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Larry Marshall
 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:28 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing packages



  I looked in the gnome and KDE menus and i don't see
 kpackage.is it an
  archive extraction-installation program? Is there a way to get
 a list of all the mandrake packages like in the install?

 Mandrake seems to be pushing Kpackage into the background in favor of
 its own rpmDrake.  You should be able to find kpackage on the Kmenu
 though, just deeper in the tree than normal.  In 7.1 it's under
 Configuration-Packaging-Kpackage.  Of course you can just type
 kpackage on the commandline too.

 This is one example of the dynamic nature of the GUI for Linux
 management that causes me to use this stuff in a limited way.  It'll
 be great once stabilized but it's a moving target right now.

 Cheers --- Larry


 





Re: [newbie] (no subject)

2000-09-09 Thread WarmFuzzy

Paul wrote:
 
 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Erik Hallsten wrote:
 
 unsbuscribe newbie
 
 Amazing with what new ways to write it some people come up with...
 
 Paul

I thought this list is supposed to be a help resource. I don't remember
Erik asking for ridicule.

Fuzz




Re: [newbie] LZH file

2000-09-09 Thread WarmFuzzy

Carroll Grigsby wrote:
 
 Anthony wrote:
 
  How do I view a .lzh file? I was downloading some Dance Dance Revolution
  (really really cool arcade game) movies, and I came across some that ended in
  .lzh. I tried viewing them in GTV, but it didn't do anything. So what program
  do I need to view lzh files?

I'm running Mandrake 7.1. Checking Kpackage I found that I have a
program installed called lha that is supposed to deal with lzh files.
There is no man page, but typing lha at the prompt gave me its help
screen with all the commands. Also found nothing in /usr/doc. HTH

Fuzz




Re: [newbie]OT penguin icons OT

2000-09-09 Thread Dacia and AzureRose

You guys go right ahead.  This kind of conversation is
on eof my favorite parts of this list.  I would say to
just add OT to both sides of the subject line and keep
on goin'.


Dacia
--- John Rye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Larry Marshall wrote:
  
  I've seen reference to Midnight Commander but
 haven't tracked it
  down.  It sounds like it would serve as an
 intermediate between a GUI
  filewindow and doing a whole lot of cd-ing.
 
 Just type 'mc' at your terminal prompt - it should
 be part of the
 standard install. It's almost exactly like the Dos
 equiv. - a few 
 shortcuts have been implemented differently - but it
 sure makes
 navigation easy.
  
   As for your two neurons - do you walk on yours??
 Like me ??
  I'll have to give that a try.
 
 It's fun when you leave your props behind grin
  
   I've recently returned to ?nix after being
 burned on four occassions by
   confusion still arises - hence my re-install
 count is 29  since
   April!!
  
  I'm really new back to Unix myself.  Have also
 done a bunch of
  installs, taking a look at the various
 distributions, looking at
  what's installed under various conditions, and
 just trying to learn
  how Linux works.
 
 I've only looked at Mandrake, I brought a copy of
 the Macmillan 6.5
 package while in MA and NH in December, liked what I
 saw - I've since
 moved to 7.0 - and thinking about the move to 7.1.
  
  The motivation for a bunch of this is unclear to
 me.  For instance,
  they've maintained the "." designation for control
 files for
  everything except Linux itself.  Maybe my memory
 is poor but it also
  seems that there is no consistency in the use of
 /usr/bin,
  /usr/local/bin and other directories of that ilk.
 
 I'm not ofay with the history of Linux - I suspect
 that Linus
 may have been avoiding copyright issues. Sure
 catches me still but
 less and less
 
  Then I get
  something like Star Office, that comes as a binary
 and it just dumps
  itself all over the place in the location where
 you point it.   I'm
  whining but give me a tarball with proper paths
 and standard path
  designations any day.  Is it my imagination or is
 the Red Hat
  distribution different from Mandrake in its path
 locations?
 
 I pulled Star Office from Sun in 7 tarballs way back
 (ver 5.1). I
 do like it even if it takes an age to load up on
 this old beast.
 
 RedHat/Mandrake paths?? dunno, I assumed that
 because L-M was a
 sub/super set of RH that they'd be pretty much the
 same - Bit
 like the difference between say a Holden Commodore
 and a Chevvy
 Lumina - labels and trim... and both modeled off an
 Opel !!!
 
   Environment" by Kerningham and Pike, which I
 think I aquired at my first
   System Admin course way back in the early 80's.
  
  You were into Unix before I was.  I first started
 working with Unix
  when I put a Sparcstation on my desk to develop
 for forest service
  clients.  Quite a shock as I'd never done any
 multi-user OS stuff and
  the 20+ volumes of documentation that came with
 the machine seemed a
  sea of "stuff."  I chuckle when I see people here
 trying to do Linux
  without advanced reading :-)
 
 Boy, do I remember those days -
 sigh...
  
  Since you've got a long history with Unix and have
 been into Linux
  longer than I, maybe you can advise regarding some
 of the graphics
  toolsets and which I should concentrate on.  I did
 a bunch of work
  with tcl/tk way back when but there was no QT then
 and Perl was just
  beginning to be developed so I never had to
 interface Perl with any of
  it.
  Should I want to or is writing vanilla C++ with
 one of the graphics
  packages the way to go?  Should I spend my time
 learning QT or just
  bring myself up to speed with current versions of
 tcl/tk?  So much to
  learn.
 
 Problem here is that I don't think I'm qualified any
 longer to venture
 an opinion where programming languages are concerned
 - too long away.
 
 I guess the only opinion/comment I would make in
 this area is that
 programming in whatever language is a young
 persons'domain for the
 most part. I think many of us oldies are too set in
 our ways to
 make the mental shifts.
 
 I look at some of the code here and go to the fridge
 for a beer after
 5 minutes just to stop the headhurt!
 
 Comment - We must be about due for a flame here -
 something about
 wasting bandwidth on reminiscing.
 
 Cheers
 
 -- 
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Re: [newbie] OT: cd createing

2000-09-09 Thread WarmFuzzy

John Rye wrote:
 
 Goldenpi wrote:
 
  I have been createing cds, for use on both windows and linux, containing
  programing stuff. I have created it all on my hdd, but when I try to put it
  on the cd it I am given the choice between iso9660 and some filesystem
  called jouliet(I think). What is this filesystem, how well supported is it,
  and which should I use. If I use iso9660 I would have to do a lot of
  reorganiseing directorys.
 
 Jouliet is the long filename system.
 Just about every cd burner I've seen gives this as an option
 to the ISO9660 definition.
 
 ISO9660 is a internation standardised method for placing/writing data
 data to CDROMs
 
 I suggest reading the man pages for the particular program you
 are using.
 
 cheers

Just to clarify a bit, (cut and pasted from CD-writing HOWTO)

The most obvious difference between the ISO 9660 filesystem compared to
the Extended-2 filesystem is: you can't modify files once they are
written. Other limitations of the ISO-9660-filesystem include: 


only 8 levels of sub-directories allowed (counted from the top-level
directory of the CD) 

maximum length for filenames: 32 characters 

650 MB capacity

RockRidge is an extension to allow longer filenames and a deeper
directory hierarchy for the ISO-9660 filesystem. When reading a CD-ROM
with RockRidge extensions under Linux, all the known properties of files
like owner, group, permissions, symbolic links appear (feels like a Unix
filesystem). These extensions are not available when reading the CD-ROM
under DOS or the Windows-family of operating systems. 

El Torito can be used to produce bootable CD-ROMs. In order to use this
feature, the BIOS of your PC must support it. Roughly speaking, the
first 1.44 (or 2.88 if supported) Mbytes of the CD-ROM contains a
floppy-disk image supplied by you. This image is treated like a floppy
by the BIOS and booted from. (As a consequence, while booting from this
virtual floppy, your original drive A: (/dev/fd0) may not be
accessible.) 

HFS lets a Macintosh read the CD-ROM as if it were an HFS volume (the
native filesystem for MacOS). 

Joliet brings long filenames (among other things) to newer variants of
Windows (95, 98, NT). However, the author knows of no tool that allows
long filenames under plain DOS or Windows 3.11. 


HTH,
Fuzz




Re: [Re: [newbie] Whats everybodys favorite email package?]

2000-09-09 Thread Roman Bysh

Michael Scottaline wrote:
 
 Vic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use Pine for my personal e mail box,
  K mail for my linux mail, and Netscape mail
  to experiment and tune up the pop server.
 =
 I use kmail to receive mail.  It can handle multiple popmail accounts (I have
 three diffeent ones), has easy to setup filters that work reasonably well, and
 has been exceptionally reliable for me (although I've read comments to the
 contrary from others shrug).
 I typically use Pine 4.21 to sent smtp mail through my ISP (unless I'm simply
 replying to mail I've just received in kmail.  then I just click the reply
 button.  For this list and some others, I use different free web based
 accounts.
 Mike
 
 "Many loads of beer were brought.  What disorder, whoring, fighting, killing
 and dreadful idolatry took place there!"
 Baltasar Rusow, Estonia, 16th century
 
 
 Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at 
http://home.netscape.com/webmail

Although, I'm using Netscrape 4.73, does kmail work on cable? And, if
there are any cable users out there, how did you set yours up? I'd like
to try them all until I find the most comfortable one to use.


-- 
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Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] Video Card

2000-09-09 Thread Dacia and AzureRose

Hey, you should qoute the messages your responding
too.  I have no idea what your talking about because
this thread is about a week old and has been very
active.

Quake3 runs great in linux.  I've got it on two
machines.  One is mandrake 7.02 with two voodoo2's  x
3.3.6 and the other machine is mandrake 7.1 and a
voodoo5.  I must say that the mouse works A LOT BETTER
in x 3.3.6.  This is a known issue and has something
to do with DGA extensions and the way quake3
implements them.

If anyone is having problems like that w x 4.01 please
write to Loki as they currently only sort of believe
that there is a problem.


Dacia
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 I totally dissagree ... I bought Quake 3 from Loki
 and it runs awsome with
 no hangups and my framerates rock!
 
 Lonny Selinger
 
 
 


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[newbie] Which kernel is recommended for updating for mdk7.1?

2000-09-09 Thread Roman Bysh

Hi,

I noticed there are different flavors of kernels for updating. Another
one was just released on Sept. 4th.
2.2.17. Before I ruin another update, which kernel is recommended? I
have mdk7.1b Hydrogen installed.

By the way, can I test the newer kernel by saving it to a new floppy and
booting it from the floppy?

Any help would be appreciated.

-- 
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Registered Linux User #179293




Re: [newbie] ISP

2000-09-09 Thread Roman Bysh

Jason Ashman wrote:
 
 On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote:
  someone was acting clueless about something i asked, i was sarcastic he got
  pissed insulted me and well it went down hill from there
 --
 I have the same sarcasm problem, but in the future, you need to note the
 sarcasm for people in the message, remember it is very hard to read feelings
 via e-mail.  You may think you are being sarcastic, but another reader may see
 it differently.
 
 Jay
 "Every man dies, not every man really lives."
 http://www.mrsnooky.com


Very true.

Roman




RE: [newbie] Cable Modem.

2000-09-09 Thread Abe

I did not see anywhere near this dramatic of a drop off in performance when I
had DSL.  Typically I saw a drop from the average 90-110KB rates to about
75-50KB.  On cable I'm getting a drop from 100-150KB to 10KB-500kb.  That is
not a typo.  I don't believe that every day the internet gets so congested
that every site I try to connect to can only broadcast at less then 28.8
dialup rates.

My brother and dad do not have these problems with @home in the same city.
They simply live in areas that have very light cable usage and have brand new
lines.  My dad gets somewhere between 1.5 and 3 Meg's transfer rate all the
time.  Even in the afternoons.  @home simply will not do anything about this
because my connection is "fast enough" as one of their tech support people
told me.


Abe


= Original Message From "Greg Stewart" [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
It's probably everyone at the office trying to avoid work the last two hours
of the day!
Where I work, this starts at 11:30am! :-)

--Greg

- Original Message -
From: "Doug McGarrett" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I have noticed even with T1 at the office, the internet slows way down
around
 3 ~ 5 PM.  I have a feeling it's kids coming home from school and logging
on
 in huge numbers, but maybe I'm all wet.  I don't think it's just your
cable.
 (I have ADSL here, BTW, and I like it fine, but then, cable Internet's not
 available here.)
 --doug





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RE: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user) OT

2000-09-09 Thread Joe Tux

http://www.linux-mag.com/online/compton_c04_01.html

//-Original Message-
//From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Larry
//Hignight
//Sent: Friday, September 01, 2000 6:52 AM
//To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
//Subject: Re: [newbie] AGH!! Linux not ready for prime time (OS/2 user)
//OT
//
//
//"Austin L. Denyer" wrote:
//
//   There never was much support for OS/2.  Comparatively few
// applications
//   were ever ported, and (compared to the competition at the time) was
// a
//   real resource hog.
// 
//  To what are you comparing it, specifically?  Boot time was far quicker
// than
//  Windows, IIRC.
//
// Well, when I tried it (which was a good few years ago now) Windoze 3.1
// was king, Win95 was still a dream project called Chicago, a college
// student called Linus Torvalds had just started releasing a (then very
// basic) Minix/unix clone on an unsuspecting world, and my 486 with 8megs
// of RAM made me the envy of my colleagues.  OS/2 was a slug on 8megs, and
// really needed 16megs to start performing.  Now, I was living in the UK
// at the time, with RAM costing $130/meg...
//
//I seem to recall a ZD article suggesting that OS/2 was king if it had 16
//megs of ram; however, comparing OS/2 to Win3.1 is a lot like comparing
//minix to unix.  You get what you pay for in a sense.  If you were to open
//five applications in os/2 and the same five applications (or close
//substitutes) in win3.1, I think you'd see os/2 just beating the
//snot out of
//windows.
//
// Anyway, I'm interested in your comments, as I gave up with OS/2 fairly
// quickly and would love to hear a more informed opinion, although I think
// we ought to take this thread to private e-mail before the net.police get
// us #;-D
//
// Regards,
// Ozz.
//
//Please don't ... I'll cheerfully add a OT and look forward to more
//conversation on the subject.
//
//--
//Larry Hignight  Descent 3 Beta tester  Caldera Linux 2.4
//
//  3:45pm  up 27 days, 23:53,  5 users,  load average: 0.11, 0.12, 0.06
//
//
//
//
//
//






Re: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall

Richard Garand wrote:
 
 KPackage and rpmDrake aren't in the menus, there's no
 configuration-Packagin, and they don't work from the console. Do i have to
 re-install Mandrake?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
  Behalf Of Larry Marshall
  Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:28 AM

   I looked in the gnome and KDE menus and i don't see
  kpackage.is it an
   archive extraction-installation program? Is there a way to get
  a list of all the mandrake packages like in the install?

Huh?  Are you using 7.1?  Did you do a normal install?  Did you
exclude packages during the install?  As for your specific question,
yes...you can use kpackage or rpmdrake to get a list of rpm packages
but if you don't have those I don't know of any way to do it. 
Personally I'm not sold on rpm installations but maybe that's just
because of my unfamiliarity with them.

Cheers --- Larry




Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall


  Comment - We must be about due for a flame here - something about
  wasting bandwidth on reminiscing.
 
 Don't know what this has to do with penguin icons but I for one am certainly 
enjoying it, so please don't stop!!

Well...first there was this dumb question I asked about penguins. Then
there was my announcement that I had only two neurons.  Then John
insisted that I demonstrate it :-)

Cheers --- Larry




RE: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Richard Garand

never mind, a reinstall fixed all i problems and i have rpmdrake and
kpackage

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Larry Marshall
 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 3:58 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [newbie] Installing packages


 Richard Garand wrote:
 
  KPackage and rpmDrake aren't in the menus, there's no
  configuration-Packagin, and they don't work from the console.
 Do i have to
  re-install Mandrake?
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
   Behalf Of Larry Marshall
   Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:28 AM

I looked in the gnome and KDE menus and i don't see
   kpackage.is it an
archive extraction-installation program? Is there a way to get
   a list of all the mandrake packages like in the install?

 Huh?  Are you using 7.1?  Did you do a normal install?  Did you
 exclude packages during the install?  As for your specific question,
 yes...you can use kpackage or rpmdrake to get a list of rpm packages
 but if you don't have those I don't know of any way to do it.
 Personally I'm not sold on rpm installations but maybe that's just
 because of my unfamiliarity with them.

 Cheers --- Larry







Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall


 Just type 'mc' at your terminal prompt - it should be part of the
 standard install. It's almost exactly like the Dos equiv. - a few

Very interesting...something new to play with.  thanks.

 I'm not ofay with the history of Linux - I suspect that Linus
 may have been avoiding copyright issues. Sure catches me still but
 less and less

Could be.  My understanding, though, is that he started with Minix in
mind and Tannenbaum's book is pretty widespread and there's been a
number of offshoots of Minix.  Gee...times do change.  You just made
me remember buying Tannenbaum's OS book and the Minix package and
paying nearly $300CDN for it.  All you got was source code and there
wasn't much in the way of apps that ran with Minix.  Yep...the good
old days weren't.

 I pulled Star Office from Sun in 7 tarballs way back (ver 5.1). I
 do like it even if it takes an age to load up on this old beast.

I sure wish they'd hack those apps away from that distortion called
their desktop.  They've learned from Mr. Gates..."do it all in one
place" is a "feature", not a stupid idea...at least in their minds.  I
like the apps but it seems so non-Linux to have such an integrated
approach.

 RedHat/Mandrake paths?? dunno, I assumed that because L-M was a
 sub/super set of RH that they'd be pretty much the same - Bit

Agreed, but I could have sworn that when I had RH installed it's use
of directories was more what I was used to than with Mandrake. It's
probably my two neurons acting up again.

 Boy, do I remember those days - sigh...

Yeah...you've got me thinking about a lot of those "old times"...like
the $600 bill for those manuals.

 Problem here is that I don't think I'm qualified any longer to venture
 an opinion where programming languages are concerned - too long away.

It's for the same reason that I'm asking the question.  

 I guess the only opinion/comment I would make in this area is that
 programming in whatever language is a young persons'domain for the
 most part. I think many of us oldies are too set in our ways to

grin...and they don't mind that "just one more compile" routine at
3AM:-)

I've written a lot of C++ code so I'm pretty comfortable with using
class libraries and such.  tcl/tk is nice cuz it works on many
platforms and I know something about it.  But like you say, writing
lots of code is not something I'm dying to do.  But with gnu C++
compilers and such sitting on my machine, I'm sure I'll "need" some
sort of utility that doesn't exist currently.  At this point I'm about
to hack together a decent addressbook but I really should spend my
free time learning more about Linux rather than doing what I know how
to do :-)

 Comment - We must be about due for a flame here - something about
 wasting bandwidth on reminiscing.

You're probably right.  Is there an old fart's list somewhere?

Cheers --- Larry




Re: [newbie] What's everybody's favorite email package?

2000-09-09 Thread Gary

 On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, "Ken" == Ken Wahl wrote:

  Ken I've never used Exmh so I don't know about that one.  It runs in the
  Ken terminal but I wouldn't exactly call it command line.

Exmh is the GUI version of mh.  It is the overall best MUA around.  It
handles in-line HTML, or anything, will filter to metamail, PGP, etc. .


However, given all this power, it has a longer learning curve, as it uses
Tk.  There are several add-ons that can be applied, like what you see for
my reply - how it sets up your cited quotes. It also is extremely
customizable, and it has its own editor which is really pretty good, or you
can use your favorite.   Spell checks on the fly also.  I can send anyone a
screen shot if they are interested, just drop me a line.  All folders are
kept in tabs in front of you.

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Re: [newbie] penguin icons

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

Larry Marshall wrote:
 
   Comment - We must be about due for a flame here - something about
   wasting bandwidth on reminiscing.
  
  Don't know what this has to do with penguin icons but I for one am certainly 
enjoying it, so please don't stop!!
 
 Well...first there was this dumb question I asked about penguins. Then
 there was my announcement that I had only two neurons.  Then John
 insisted that I demonstrate it :-)
 
 Cheers --- Larry

Aaah Larry, don't worry about it. We all run a few neurons shy of a
whole molocule now and then.
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Re: [newbie] Installation of extension CD

2000-09-09 Thread A V Flinsch

On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am new to linux and I really need you all to help me
 out for the Installation problem.
 
 I have Mandrake 7.1 Deluxe. and during the
 installation, I only can install the first CD
 (Installation CD) when the computer ask me to change
 the CD to Extension CD, I can't do it because the
 CDROM can't be open. So right now I want to install

Be patient, wait, sit back, read a book, have a smoke/beer/coffee/whatever. It
will open eventually.


 the extension CD. How can I do that? 
 I have tried to install one by one using RPM command
 but I got dependency error.

You can do it this way, just install the dependencies also. SUsE and Debian are
better at this than Mandrake. 

 
 I also have problem for setting up my pci modem so
 that I can connect to the Internet. If some of you
 have the
 experience, would you please tell me how to set the
 PCI modem? 


Most, but not all pci modems are "winmodems". Most but not all just won't work
in any OS other than Windows.  See http://www.o2.net/~gromitkc/winmodem.html and
http://www.linmodems.org for more info.



-- 
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(Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)




Re: [newbie] Kmenuedit is not instlled

2000-09-09 Thread bascule

even with the menueditor working (terminal and type kmenuedit or
Kconfig..othermenu editor) the first items on my menu aren't
editable: logout, lockscreen, panel, disk navigator, - anyone know if
these can be altered?

bascule

P
 I just installed Linux Mandrake 7.1.  I have found that the kmenu editor is
 not installed.
 
 When I click on the icon, it says Ooops.  Menu Editor is not installed.
 





Re: [newbie] Installing packages

2000-09-09 Thread Dennis Myers

Kpackage should be a rpm on your installation disks you should be able
to install it right from the CDs I'm not sure which one it is on, but I
suspect it would be found on the second installation CD, just a guess,
look on both. If you have RPMDrake installed then the installation of
any rpm is mostly a breeze, barring dependencies getting involved. Let
us know how this proceeds, there is a lot of help here on the list.
-- 
Dennis a registered linux user #180842




RE: [newbie] Video Card

2000-09-09 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

Quake3 runs great in linux.  I've got it on two
machines.  One is mandrake 7.02 with two voodoo2's  x
3.3.6 and the other machine is mandrake 7.1 and a
voodoo5.  I must say that the mouse works A LOT BETTER
in x 3.3.6.  This is a known issue and has something
to do with DGA extensions and the way quake3
implements them.
Dacia


Hey Dacia,
I was wondering if you could give me an idea of how to setup the Voodoo
cards under Linux?  I'm not really jazzed about buying another video card,
but I would like to setup one machine to play games on and I'm having no
luck with my current hardware.  Were you able to run Quake 3 out of the box
on a clean install of Mandrake 7.0/7.1 or did you have to do some tweaking?
I would really like to know if ANYONE has been able to get the Matrox G400
dual head card working with Quake 3 and Mandrake (or any version of Linux
for that matter).

Thanks, Mike





Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Eugene C. Zesch

Cheer up, I spent $100 for windows and it didnt work right either!
But seriously, from the command line you almost certainly have vim,
emacs, probably pico, and several other editors that will do the job in
the command line. Each of them will be well (but possibly cryptically)
documented. See for instance   man emacs. It took me a while to get used
to reading man pages, but thats where the good stuff is. You can open
two terminals, one with the editor and one with the man page, and you'll
get it!
Good luck.
Gene





[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 why is it my problems are ignored for stuff that has been answered a million
 times over yet i sit here with a linux prompt and no x windows
 :(
 xf86config doesnt work anymore so i cant use that, found an xf86config file
 that was optimized for my system yet i cant save it to linux, because i dont
 have pico, kedit made for xwindows! like that will work,
 spent $30 for linux mandrake and thinking i wasted money with lack of help
 and a system that linux just seems to hate




Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mwinold

problem is knowing the names of the man pages




Re: [newbie] RAM Detection

2000-09-09 Thread Dacia and AzureRose

It must be manufacturer because I've never had
mandrake not detect all of my ram yet my brother had
to do the lilo thing to use his second 128M stick.


Dacia
--- Patti Wavinak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 My better half g has 256M and it is detected on
 every installation...I on 
 the other hand also have 256M and it does NOT detect
 it :-( Personally he 
 thinks it depends on who made the chip...some chips
 are more sensitive than 
 others. We have the same amount of memory but
 different manufacturers so 
 what he thinks makes a lot of sense.
 
 Patti
 Registered Linux User #184611
 
 
  Original Message
 
 
 On 9/10/00, 6:04:21 AM, Dennis Myers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding 
 [newbie] RAM Detection:
 
 
  I just checked on my install of 7.0 to double boot
 with Win98 and found
  that the installation detected my 128M of ram. Why
 would it work on my
  machine when I read that so many others must do
 the append mem= thing to
  get their RAM recognized? Not complaining, just
 curious, cause maybe
  there is something in autodetect that happens
 during config. Has anyone
  else seen the correct ram detected during
 installation?
  --
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Re: [newbie] 250 programs ?

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

I can certainly apprecite what Patrick is say, but then again I'm like
Dacia. I enjoy that journey too! :)

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Dacia and AzureRose wrote:

 One of the things I love about mandrake is sitting
 down to install, choosing development or expert and
 diggin through the entire list of available packages. 
 Its sort of a voyage of discovery.  I guess that this
 is my round about way of saying that I would sort of
 prefer to find out for myself what all those packages
 are.
 
 
 Dacia
 --- patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  does anybody know what the extra 250 programs in
  mandrake 7.2 are. if not i think we should all
  revolt
  and make em tell us.
  
 
 
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Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

try using vi. It's way cooler than pico anyway. What seems to be the
problem with you display? I honestly don't remember seeing any posts from
you about configuring X. But you've got my undivided attention fellow
penguin keeper!  :)

-- 
Mark

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why is it my problems are ignored for stuff that has been answered a million 
 times over yet i sit here with a linux prompt and no x windows
 :(
 xf86config doesnt work anymore so i cant use that, found an xf86config file 
 that was optimized for my system yet i cant save it to linux, because i dont 
 have pico, kedit made for xwindows! like that will work, 
 spent $30 for linux mandrake and thinking i wasted money with lack of help 
 and a system that linux just seems to hate
 
 





Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

naaah...it's just a real pain to use till you get used to it. Vi is
much easier to learn than emacs. IMHO of course.

-- 
Mark

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On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 thought emac was for mac comps, maybe i read to much into names
 
 





[newbie] configuring sound and network cards

2000-09-09 Thread Richard Garand

I have a Startech NE2000 compatible ethernet card on ISA, and a Yamaha
waveforce 192XG PCI sound card. How do i configure these to work in linux?
For the ethernet card, i know the windows hardware settings, my IP address,
my subnet mask, 2 DNS servers, the search domain or domain suffix and the
default gateway address (for my internet connection)





RE: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Abe

It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line text 
editor.  Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far.

Abe
= Original Message From Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] =
try using vi. It's way cooler than pico anyway. What seems to be the
problem with you display? I honestly don't remember seeing any posts from
you about configuring X. But you've got my undivided attention fellow
penguin keeper!  :)

--
Mark

**  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed  | ICQ#27816299
** _||_ in the making of this|
**  =\/=  message...   | Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why is it my problems are ignored for stuff that has been answered a 
million
 times over yet i sit here with a linux prompt and no x windows
 :(
 xf86config doesnt work anymore so i cant use that, found an xf86config file
 that was optimized for my system yet i cant save it to linux, because i 
dont
 have pico, kedit made for xwindows! like that will work,
 spent $30 for linux mandrake and thinking i wasted money with lack of help
 and a system that linux just seems to hate



Jesus saves,
Allah forgives, 
Chthulu thinks you'd make a nice sandwich.





Re: [newbie] RAM Detection

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

Hi Dennis,

I didn't have any trouble when I installed Mandrake on my machine at
work. It too has 128MB RAM. I think though it's got something to do with
the mobo that's being used. I guess some do and some don't.

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dennis Myers wrote:

 I just checked on my install of 7.0 to double boot with Win98 and found
 that the installation detected my 128M of ram. Why would it work on my
 machine when I read that so many others must do the append mem= thing to
 get their RAM recognized? Not complaining, just curious, cause maybe
 there is something in autodetect that happens during config. Has anyone
 else seen the correct ram detected during installation?
 





Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mwinold

In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:50:20 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

ok my problem is while i was able to use x windows everything was too big and 
changing resolution didnt help so i tried going from a 800x600 lcd display to 
640x520
and then x windows wouldnt load, so i tried using the xf86config program and 
it decided it didnt want to go any farther then monitor choice and promptly 
crashed, so now i have no x windows and a complete loss of ideas to fix it 
given how new i am to linux

 try using vi. It's way cooler than pico anyway. What seems to be the
 problem with you display? I honestly don't remember seeing any posts from
 you about configuring X. But you've got my undivided attention fellow
 penguin keeper!  :)
 
 -- 
 Mark
 - 




Re: [newbie] RAM Detection

2000-09-09 Thread Patti Wavinak

We have identical motherboards and the mobo detects all of my ram -- go 
figure ;-)

Patti
Registered Linux User 184611

 Original Message 

On 9/9/00, 7:55:45 PM, Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding Re: 
[newbie] RAM Detection:


 Hi Dennis,

 I didn't have any trouble when I installed Mandrake on my machine at
 work. It too has 128MB RAM. I think though it's got something to do with
 the mobo that's being used. I guess some do and some don't.

 --
 Mark
 
 **  =/\=  No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299
 ** _||_ in the making of this   |
 **  =\/=  message...  | Registered Linux user #182496
 

 On Sun, 10 Sep 2000, Dennis Myers wrote:

  I just checked on my install of 7.0 to double boot with Win98 and found
  that the installation detected my 128M of ram. Why would it work on my
  machine when I read that so many others must do the append mem= thing to
  get their RAM recognized? Not complaining, just curious, cause maybe
  there is something in autodetect that happens during config. Has anyone
  else seen the correct ram detected during installation?
 




Re: [newbie] Can PC Anywhere work

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

If you want to be able to use both on either PC there's a program called
VNC that works great. There's a version for both Windows and Linux.

The URL is:  http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/

Give it a try. We use it quite heavily where I work. It helps us take care
of a lot of user-troubles that we would normally have to run up and down
the stairs to take care. Not to mention that at times they thing we're
working magic before their eyes. We can also use it to perform system
maintenence during the weekend from home, so there are lots of
applications for the program.

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Neil  Kate wrote:

 Is there a thing I can  load on my Linux box to let me control a MS pc
 running PCAnywhere?
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mwinold

i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to get to 
since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a 
headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to use 
windows to find file that may or may not work


In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line text 
 editor.  Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far.
 
 Abe 




Re: [newbie] Can PC Anywhere work

2000-09-09 Thread Barry Premeaux

Neil  Kate wrote:

 Is there a thing I can  load on my Linux box to let me control a MS pc
 running PCAnywhere?

You could try running it under wine.  The other alternative is vmware.

--
Barry :-)







Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Barry Premeaux

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 why is it my problems are ignored for stuff that has been answered a million
 times over yet i sit here with a linux prompt and no x windows
 :(
 xf86config doesnt work anymore so i cant use that, found an xf86config file
 that was optimized for my system yet i cant save it to linux, because i dont
 have pico, kedit made for xwindows! like that will work,
 spent $30 for linux mandrake and thinking i wasted money with lack of help
 and a system that linux just seems to hate

You should have vi loaded and be able to run it as your editor.

--
Barry :-)







Re: [newbie] 250 programs ?

2000-09-09 Thread patrick

On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 One of the things I love about mandrake is sitting
 down to install, choosing development or expert and
 diggin through the entire list of available packages. 
 Its sort of a voyage of discovery.  I guess that this
 is my round about way of saying that I would sort of
 prefer to find out for myself what all those packages
 are.
 

well if somebody tells us maybe they will make note
at the top of their post and that way u dont have to
know :)

deal?

 
 Dacia
 --- patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
  
  does anybody know what the extra 250 programs in
  mandrake 7.2 are. if not i think we should all
  revolt
  and make em tell us.
  
 
 
 __
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 Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere!
 http://mail.yahoo.com/




Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread patrick

On Sat, 09 Sep 2000, you wrote:
 thought emac was for mac comps, maybe i read to much into names


thats what i thought too




Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Steve Weltman

To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system.  It's got a bad
config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and...

type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator"

Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse,
keyboard, Xserver, and finally display).  Choose a different display, and be
SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed
your monitors abilities.  You can find this on the website of most
manufacturer's tech support sections.

Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is...

Steve Weltman
(from LA)
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(


 i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to get
to
 since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a
 headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to
use
 windows to find file that may or may not work


 In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time,
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line
text
  editor.  Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far.

  Abe 






[newbie] question

2000-09-09 Thread Daniel J. Ferris

What is a good program to use that will log attempts to scan your
box?

Preferably something that can detect stealth scans.

TIA,
Dan




Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Steve Weltman

Um, that was meant to be "let us hear what happened here"...You get the
idea...

Steve W.
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Weltman" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:51 PM
Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(


 To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system.  It's got a bad
 config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and...

 type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator"

 Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse,
 keyboard, Xserver, and finally display).  Choose a different display, and
be
 SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed
 your monitors abilities.  You can find this on the website of most
 manufacturer's tech support sections.

 Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is...

 Steve Weltman
 (from LA)
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(


  i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to
get
 to
  since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a
  headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to
 use
  windows to find file that may or may not work
 
 
  In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line
 text
   editor.  Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far.
 
   Abe 
 







Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

Ok...here's what ya do. At the LILO prompt boot linux by typing the label
name that you normally use and add a number 3 to it. It might look
something like this:

boot: linux 3  ENTER

This will take you to "run level 3" which is the console login as opposed
the the X login screen. Log in as root and at the command prompt type:

setuptool  ENTER

This will start the console configuration utility that will allow you to
configure X-windows and get you back into X. A little tip about what NOT
to choose for your display this time would be definately do NOT choose LCD
because that is a laptop setting and explains perfectly why you've been
having such a horrible time getting x to run.

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:50:20 Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 writes:
 
 ok my problem is while i was able to use x windows everything was too big and 
 changing resolution didnt help so i tried going from a 800x600 lcd display to 
 640x520
 and then x windows wouldnt load, so i tried using the xf86config program and 
 it decided it didnt want to go any farther then monitor choice and promptly 
 crashed, so now i have no x windows and a complete loss of ideas to fix it 
 given how new i am to linux
 
  try using vi. It's way cooler than pico anyway. What seems to be the
  problem with you display? I honestly don't remember seeing any posts from
  you about configuring X. But you've got my undivided attention fellow
  penguin keeper!  :)
  
  -- 
  Mark
  - 
 
 





Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Larry Marshall


 problem is knowing the names of the man pages

This is an understated and underestimated problem with computers and
software in general.  We're provided with lots of syntactic reference
support (here's all the options you can use with this command) but
very little guidance when it comes to what exists, why you'd want to
use what exists and how the heck what exists works.

The vast majority of questions asked here involve just those
questions.  Truthfully, in my limited experience, the Linux world
provides answers to those kinds of questions better than most I've
been part of, at least in part because it's such an Internet saavy
community.  But a couple basic books, like "Running Linux" from
O'Reilly Press sure help fill in the details.  One thing that's
overlooked (mostly cuz you gotta know it's there) is the large library
of "how to" articles that come with Mandrake (in the Documentation
section).  These explain many aspects of how computers work, how to
install stuff, how to do stuff with apps that are included and such. 
We get so caught up in making particular things work that we often
lose sight of the fact that we need to read about systems in
general...at least I do.  

But one solution to the problem you've stated is to sit down some
night with a good brew, go "cd /usr/bin" (and later other
directories), do "ls -al" and then just start typing "man filename"
for each of the files contained in that directory.  You'll be amazed
at how much you learn in a short period of time.

Cheers --- Larry




Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

that certainly is one way to do it, albeit a 10 mile hike when the
distance to the goal is only a few hundred yards away. using the console
utility "setuptool" will do a very nice job of getting X configured and
running again. not to mention that it's much easier to use and there's
less chance of messing up other settings in the process. That was a lesson
I learned the hard way. Especially after I made the jump from RedHat to
MAndrake.

But that's another story...  :)

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Steve Weltman wrote:

 To start with, you didn't LOOSE XWindow from your system.  It's got a bad
 config, but that's reparable...okay, take a deep breath, and...
 
 type this (no quotes) "Xconfigurator"
 
 Go thru the whole process of setting up the XWindow system again (mouse,
 keyboard, Xserver, and finally display).  Choose a different display, and be
 SURE that the settings you choose for the display are not going to exceed
 your monitors abilities.  You can find this on the website of most
 manufacturer's tech support sections.
 
 Best of luck, let's here what the turnout is...
 
 Steve Weltman
 (from LA)
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 8:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [newbie] last one to be answered :(
 
 
  i dont care what it is as long as its currently on my system, easy to get
 to
  since im still learning file structure of linux, and it doesnt give me a
  headache trying to save an xf86config file from windows to linux, had to
 use
  windows to find file that may or may not work
 
 
  In a message dated 09-Sep-00 21:58:23 Central Daylight Time,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   It cracks me up how everyone has suggested a different command line
 text
   editor.  Vi, Emacs, Vim and Pico so far.
 
   Abe 
 
 
 
 





Re: [newbie] Can PC Anywhere work

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Weaver

neither of which are all that they're cracked up to be. There is a good
solution for Linux where this issue is concerned and VNC fills that spot
nicely.

-- 
Mark

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** _||_ in the making of this |
**  =\/=  message...| Registered Linux user #182496


On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Barry Premeaux wrote:

 Neil  Kate wrote:
 
  Is there a thing I can  load on my Linux box to let me control a MS pc
  running PCAnywhere?
 
 You could try running it under wine.  The other alternative is vmware.
 
 --
 Barry :-)
 
 
 
 
 





[newbie] I am having problems with my modem

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Thurston



I have a US Robotics 56K Sportster modem, it is 
about 3 years old so it is not a winmodem. Anyway, I can get linux to find 
the driver and query the modem, but it always says "the modem is busy." I 
need to get this running as soon as possible. Any help would be greatly 
appreciated.

Mark


[newbie] Printer problems

2000-09-09 Thread Mark Thurston



I have an HP Deskjet 722C printer and I can not get 
it to work in Linux. The system finds the printer, tells me what it is and 
the selects a driver, but the driver does not work properly. The test page 
prints, but very very slowly and it is all jumbled up and unreadable. I 
have tried some of the other drivers, but none of them seem to work 
either. Does anyone have any ideas?

Mark


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